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Speaker 1: Welcome back, everyone to a new episode of You Were

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Wrong with Molly Hemingway, editor in chief of the Federalist

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and David Harsani, senior writer at the Washington Examiner. Just

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as a reminder, if you'd like to email the show,

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We love to hear from you, Molly. We love to

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hear from you as well. It's nice to see you.

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I thought we'd start today just breaking news that there

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has been a deal struck between the Israelis and Hamas

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on release of hostages. Well, let me tell you what

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the deal is. Reportedly, it will be a six week

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ceasefire where in that time gradually the IDF withdraws from

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Gaza Strip except from the southern border between Egypt, where

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you know most of the weaponry comes in. Israel will

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allow humanitarian trucks Center six hundred, which for sure you

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know that will be stolen by Hamas. And here's the

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part that you know. I think it tells us who

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cares about human life and who doesn't. Hamas promises to

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release thirty three or thirty one. I have seen both

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hostages on humanitarian grounds, meaning that a lot of these

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people are probably living. For every one of those hostages,

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Israel will release thirty terrorists in exchange for them.

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Speaker 2: And people who are in prison.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. And then there are five kidnapped female soldiers,

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Israeli soldiers who are females, fifty terrorists for each of them. Now,

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this is a separate discussion about women in military, and listen,

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Israel doesn't really have that much of a choice. It's

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a small country, so it's army uses women as from

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the beginning. But when women are kidnapped, especially by you know, sadistic,

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violent terrorists like this, they will do horrible things to women,

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and for a decent society like the United States or

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Israel to see that and live with that is very difficult.

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So they will give up a lot to get them back.

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And that's just one of the many reasons I don't

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think women should be, especially in combat, but maybe in

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the military at all if we don't need them to

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be anyway, that's a separate discussion. But they will still be.

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Israel will still leave hamas sixty five hostages. Most of

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them are probably already dead. We don't even know if

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these hostages that are coming back are alive, so that's

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a terrible deal, you know, in many ways, But of

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course I understand why they do it. If there were

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American hostages, I would want them back to There are babies,

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there are young women. Still, you want to get them

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back no matter what. Anyway, So that's the deal. Obviously

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Trump's about to become president, and that has a lot

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to do with it, don't you think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it sounds not ideal, but also not nothing.

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I mean, it actually enrages me. Not that it angers

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me that the Israelis do this, but it enrages me

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that the world is such that it is that in

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order to get your hostages you have to release like

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convicted criminals or terrorists that whole, like one for one

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wouldn't make sense, one for thirty or one for fifty

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really doesn't make sense. But you have to deal with

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what you have to deal with if you want these

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hostages back, you have to deal with the real world

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and not the world you wish you had. So I

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think that's great, and I also think just even the

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fact that any movement is happening is good. A ceasefire

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also seems to have always benefited, like as long as

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it's done on their terms. Obviously seems to do well

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with the ceasefires, and they kind of know when they

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can do one and when they can't do one. Right, well,

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it's not like the war is going to be over.

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It's just that they're going to take a break to

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do this hostage exchange.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the war. I don't think, at least from what

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I've read, that the war is over. Israel does well

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with ceasefires, you know why because Hamas or whoever as well,

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they always break them, so Israel can re engage whenever

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it really wants to, and it should I hope. So

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ceasefires mean nothing to Hamas. It's just a means for

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them to retrench. There was a ceasefire in place on

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October sixth, twenty twenty three, so they do not mean anything.

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Israel's just trying to get hostages back, and I think

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you're right, you know me, moral people tries to do

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whatever they can to do that. My question is does

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this make it more likely that more hostages are going

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to be taken? Because it obviously works, and Israel has

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a long history of giving up tons of hostage hostages,

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even for corpses that they don't want mutilated, and so on.

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So yeah, so you know that's a problem. But anyway,

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I wanted to talk a little bit about the Trump Obviously,

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it sort of reminds me of these aren't there are

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Reagan and the Iranian hostages. I think didn't Trump say

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he was you know, they was gonna unleash hell or

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something like that if they weren't returned. I forget exactly

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what he said.

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Speaker 2: Uh, they needed to be back. They needed to be

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back before he takes office or else there will be

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hell to.

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Speaker 1: Pay, which isn't going to happen. But well, just about that.

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Speaker 2: Though this has been a difficult situation now for a

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year and several months, it's not I don't actually think

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the Biden administration has been as bad toward Israel as

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a lot of people say. I think they. I think

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they've done a lot to help, but they've also not

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done a lot that they could have done, including just

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kind of explaining to himas as Bola and Iran, what's

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going to happen if they If they you know, you

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can not be fully involved in a war, but also

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convey more strength than the Biden administration did, and so

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even just little things like that, like get these hostages home,

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can move people to a negotiating table, and that we

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should use that bully pulpit that we have to say

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things like that.

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Speaker 1: From the American perspective, yes, from the Israeli perspective, I

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don't think there's any room for negotiation with Hamas anymore.

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I think they have to be decimated and taken out

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of the equation, even if it means the Palestinian authority

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running Gaza if they can. Last time they were there,

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they were being thrown off ruse, but it could happen.

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I guess. I have a harsh review of the of

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the Biden administration, which I think tried to leverage Israel

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into making bad deals, try to stop them from going

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into Rafa, Criticize their beeper the thing, you know, criticize

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their attacks on his Ballah, held them back from retaliating

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against Iran. That does not exude strength that you know,

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shows weakness in a way which is harmful. I think Trump.

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I think the idea Hamas probably had was that Trump

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is going to unleash Benjamin Nettan in a way that

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would mean the end of them, and that's why they

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agreed to the ceasefire. They probably had no other way

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to go. I am bothered a little bit. And I

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forget his name, the Trump Middle East dude with cough.

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Maybe I forget his name, But the way he talks

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about Katar doing God's work and stuff, it's a little bothersome.

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I realize you need someone to broker these deals, but

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Qatar is an enemy of the United States in many ways.

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It has a very weird relationship, but it really does

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undermine US and Israeli interests in the Middle East quite often.

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So now I'm a little worried about that, But anyway,

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that's a separate issue. I'm happy that hostages, the ones

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that are still alive, are coming back, and I think

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that's a good thing. But we'll see, you know, we'll

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see what this means in the long term. It's and

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I do want to say one thing though, about Benjamin Netanya, who,

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so October seventh was the most maybe other than the

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um Keeper War, maybe even more than that, the worst

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security failure in Israeli history. But since that time he

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has decimated Hamas for the most part. He has basically

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rendered Hezballah toothless and in Lebanon, which is a huge thing.

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Asad is now in because of that war, Asad is

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now in Russia and Syria has fallen. We'll see that's

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a good thing. I mean, he was a real genocidal dictator.

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pretty impotent. So I mean he's accomplished a lot in

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you know, since October seventh. It's not as he's been

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you know, as if he's been terrible. So anyway, it's

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my perspective on that.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say about that. But I think

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people always want to put people in good brackets or

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bad brackets, and they get really loyal to someone or

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they really hate one, and just people are complicated. And

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I actually genuinely generally like Netanyahu, and I think he's

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done good work over the years. He's also done a

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bunch of stupid things and also you know, clearly did

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not keep the country prepared for the terrific massacre. So

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he's a complicated figure, but he can still be like

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overall pretty impressive. Like I think the Operation Beeper and

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the eradication of Hamas and the pinpoint strikes on Iranian

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key assets, like I think all of that has just

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been brilliant and that books will be written about it

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for a long time to come.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a he's a complicated guy and a complex figure,

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and he's done. I don't know if people know. In

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the nineties he basically spearheaded the effort to turn Israel,

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the Israeli economy around from being basically a socialist economy

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to a free market economy that has just bloss But yeah,

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he is, especially on a personal level, he's a weird guy.

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He consolidates power for himself and his cronies. Like, he's

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definitely complicated. He's made a lot of mistakes, like you say,

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but that there's this this kind of like unna, this

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hatred of him from the left. It's just it's irrational.

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a He's he's overly cautious, to be honest with you,

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and he's not like a warmonger or anything like that.

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Israel is a consenstate of war for sure. But if

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he if he didn't have to be involved in them,

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I'm sure he'd be very happy. I want to talk

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about some of the uh Trump people.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of complicated people, we've got all these nomination hearings

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going on. I don't know how much you've followed. We

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have really just we really just got things going with

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Pete Hegseeth this week and Pam Bondi and a few others.

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But how do you think they're going.

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Speaker 1: I think they're going well so far. For Trump. I

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think Pete heg Seth did a good job. He came

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off as a competent, funny, patriotic nomine I thought. I mean,

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I think his answers were well crafted. I think he

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didn't seem nervous. I don't know how much any of

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it really mattered. I guess maybe Joni Ernst was going

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to vote against him, maybe or something like that. I

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doubt it, though, So I don't know how important it was.

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didn't know much about him, I think they would have

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been somewhat impressed. How about you, what do you think there's.

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Speaker 2: So much there?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 2: I know Pete having worked with him at Fox, and

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I really like him. It was definitely an outside way

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of doing you know, it's not your traditional person that

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you put in as Secretary of Defense. And there are

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a couple things about that. One it's almost always someone

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who's got extremely strong ties to the military industry complex

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who can reassure the people who make money off of

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war that the money will continue to be made. And

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that's just kind of been the model we have used

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for a while. There's even an argument for it, and

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Pete is very different. He seems more focused on the

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health of the military as opposed to the health of

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the military industrial complex. Having said that, it's a complicated organization,

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it's impossible for anyone to run. He will be no exception,

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and it's an organization that seems to think that it's

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in charge of the country sometimes and that what it

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wants to do is more important than what the constitutionally

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elected commander in chief wants to do. So it's a

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big challenge. I thought he did really well. Not only

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did he embarrass the Democrats who just sounded shrill and

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not in control of themselves. I think he also made

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a lot of people who are worried about whether he

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can handle an organization of that size. I think he

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impressed a lot of people. I get the feeling people

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thought he was a pretty face on Fox News and

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they didn't realize how well educated he is. How deep

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of a thinker he is, how strategic he is in

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his thinking, and so some of that came through in

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the hearing, I think, which helped him. It's a little

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bit annoying that you had Republicans come out yesterday and say, okay,

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now we'll vote for him. Oh, now you will vote

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for the Republican president's nominees. Well great. When you wait

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so long to come on board with something like that,

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one or two. I think maybe more pressure should be

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problems and encouraging them to be part of that solution.

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be a good thing, but we have some serious problems

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with our military, you know, from recruitment to budgets to strategy,

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and we need, we need the whole country to kind

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of root for our Department of Defense and not turn

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it into a partisan money pen.

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Speaker 1: There were a lot of unhinged Democrats, especially in that hearing.

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just give you one example. I believe Tim Keane just

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a small man in my opinion, you know, talking about

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him drinking on the job and trying to basically knowing

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he's going to go through, but trying to embarrass him

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and undermine his credibility and all that. I think a

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legitimate question whether he can handle such a big organization.

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I'm not saying that should stop it, but that's but

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of course that's not what most Democrats focused on. They

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try to smear him I think there was a last

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minute Jane Meyer's story, that mayors story that came out

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right in the New Yorker about how I don't know

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someone was sexual assault. It was huge.

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Speaker 2: Kavanagh, Actually, I do want to talk about this for

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a minute because I was thinking about how for decades

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we have had a media complex that is so powerful

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that if it wants to take someone down, it pretty

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much can you remember the exceptions Clarence Thomas, Brett Kavanaugh,

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but you don't remember the you know, hundreds of people

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that they've taken out with one or one hit piece whatever.

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operation against Pete Hagsith, and they went for it. And

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what I find interesting about it is you take a

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man like Clarence Thomas, you take a man like Brett Cavenaught.

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are deeply honorable men who everyone who actually knows those

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people will swear up and down that they are like

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some of the most honorable men they've ever met. Pete

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very open about this. He's been married three times, he's

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gone through some difficulties. He's never denied this, but it

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meant that there was more material you could work with, right,

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and yet still the media Democrat campaign to take him

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out appears to have failed. I don't know exactly what

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that means, other than we can get some indication that

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truly the left wing media have so destroyed their credibility

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that them running an information operation against Pete Higsith just

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doesn't work anymore, or that it's just not going to

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work as well as they used to work. Like it

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used to be Washington Post comes after you, You're done,

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end of story, with a few exceptions. Now it's more

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like Washington Post came after you, okay, and it might

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be done, probably not could be. And so I think

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it's partly that there. I think it's also just a

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lot of Americans have realized that they use these info ops,

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not because they're real, but just they deploy them selectively

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against people they don't like, when they could deploy them

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after everybody, against everybody. And so Jane Mayer being there

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I thought was hilarious because of course she has lied

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about Clarence Thomas, she has lied about Brett Kavanaugh. Sometimes

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they go back and read her Brett Kavanaugh stuff and

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it still makes no sense, Like I don't even know

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what she was alleging in one of her pieces because

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it made so little sense. And I literally co wrote

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a book on Brett Kavanaugh. They you know, it's innuendos

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and smears. In this case, she claimed falsely that Susan

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Collins and Joni Earnst refused to meet with some credible

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accuser of Pete hag Seth. And I'm sorry because I didn't.

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You know, I should read this before weigh in too

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much on it. But A, the person's not credible. B

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those women did not refuse to meet with the individual.

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she would be willing to meet with anyone and thought

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that these things should go through committee rather than her.

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But like willing to meet and so, you know, just

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typical Jane Mayer, like clear, carefully worded things, deployed at

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the last minute, and it just didn't seem to work.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: I noticed. I think it was Peter Baker says his

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name at the New York Times retweeting one of these stories.

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York Times probably passed on the story because they saw

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that there was nothing there. What they do is someone

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with no credibility runs the story, and then they report

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on the story being run, like this is the game

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they pulled with Kavanaugh. There are two reasons why, in

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my opinion, these don't have traction. One is, no one

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trusts the media anymore. I think Kavanaugh maybe broke broke that,

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you know, broke that was the last straw there, or

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you know, on this sort of attack because it was

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so risible, you know. And the other thing is no

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one trusts the senators involved in it. I mean, right,

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I mean we have no trust in Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: Did you see Senator Mark Wayne Mullen from Oklahoma go

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after one of his colleagues.

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Speaker 1: That's the drinking And.

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Speaker 2: I loved it, like I liked and I actually liked

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that he didn't name names. I mean usually I would say,

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if you're going to make an allegation, name names. But

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the fact is that in that August body of the

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US United States Senate, there are a lot of drunkards.

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of people who you know, just are not honorable. I

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interview Supreme Court justices about this, and they say, far

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and away the worst part of confirmation is to have

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your morality questioned by someone who like killed a woman,

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you know, yeah, like Ted Kennedy up there being like,

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excuse me, but how dare you? And it's like you

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literally killed a woman and you're sitting here in the

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Senate and you're going to act like you have some

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you know, moral high ground or related to drinking or crowsing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, it's bad to be an alcoholic if

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you are, and that's something someone should deal with. But

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you know what if someone drinks and they're doing their job,

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I honestly, I don't even care that much. I mean,

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I want someone to do the job. I want them

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to adhere to the Constitution, and I want them to

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do the right thing. And their personal lives are messed up.

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That's not great, but it's not the you know, it's

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not the only thing I care about, And especially for

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these senators to you know, to talk about that or

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to make that an issue, especially, I was just appalled

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by Tim Kain there. You know, he was just I

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just think he was so that reminds me.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember his like twenty eight year old kid,

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twenty five year old? I don't remember how old he

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was like seven or eight years ago, got arrested as

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part of an Antifa riot in Minneapolis or somewhere in Minnesota. Yeah,

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I'm just wondering what happened to him. The kid's name

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this adult male, but lynn Wood Michael or Matthew Kane.

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I just kind of wonder where he is now, Like

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did he commit to the bit, is he still Antifa

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or did he change his mind and become an investment banker.

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I just wonder. Also, if I were Tim Kane and

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my kid were Antifa, I would not be talking to

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a nominee about his family or anything.

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Speaker 1: Or his How about his tattoo? I was I loved

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you know, he has a Jerusalem tattoo on his chest,

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which is the kind of squared It's hard.

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Speaker 2: To explain that square cross square cross with forecross for

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cross as an each quadrant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly that. I didn't know this, but at the

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NAT I lived right across from the National Cathedral for

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a year. But inside the floor has a giant Jerusalem Cross,

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and Jimmy Carter just uh his funeral, you know, and

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the procession went through there and everything, and no one

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was offended by the Jerusalem like the Jerusalem crust there.

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I'm not saying there's not a racist on earth that

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puts a Jerusalem Cross on, you know, tattoo up, but it's.

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Speaker 2: Really not that kind of simbol. I mean, it's been

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around for a really long time. Usually is something when

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I we have one at my church on it built

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into the architecture of the building. But usually like if

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I see someone wearing one, I wonder if they made

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a pilgrimage to Jerusalem, because I think that's where it

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kind of started, is that you'd go to Jerusalem, you'd

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get a Jerusalem Cross, and that way people knew that

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you had visited the Holy Land. So I don't you know, yeah,

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the idea that it's some I just hate where they

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invent symbols, like during the Kavanaugh thing and prior to that,

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they had this hysterical period of claiming that if you

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gave a like a thumbs up or an AOK sign,

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that that was a secret Nazi salute. And there was

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a woman, like a Mexican Jewish woman who was working

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on the Kavanaugh confirmation and the Washington Post wrote up

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a whole story about how she might be a white

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supremacist because she had given a thumbs up to someone

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when they motioned like, do you want water, and she

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was like yeah, and so they were like she might

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be a Nazi. I mean, it's I don't understand how

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these people can work and print stuff like that and

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not feel badly about themselves. Who's that woman who ran

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for president from New York senator? Not Hillary Clinton, Kirsten,

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Kristen Gilibrand or Kirsten So my favorite thing is that

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when she ran for president, in her opening ad, she

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said that she was a young mother, and the woman

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was in her fifties.

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Speaker 1: It's like the Young Guns book about Kevin m Remember

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that Young Guns book with all the Republicans who are

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like in their mid forties at the time.

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Speaker 2: I think, hey, I'm not sure they were in their

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mid forties at the time. I actually think they were

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pretty young really, and be relative to an average age

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of eighty five in the Congress, they were totally young.

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But she was saying how she was a young mother.

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And then yesterday when she was screaming at Pete Hegseth,

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she looked like a witch out of like a you know,

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a German fairy tale. She looked like she had aged

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a lot.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, I mean saying, you know, if I say someone's attractive,

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I'm you know. I don't know if that's okay, But

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I definitely don't want to go around calling women looking

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at saying they want sentence in the Senate. I let

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you do that the guilty find I'm not.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm an I'm an average looking lady. I

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know it. Who's not average looking is Pam BONDI.

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Speaker 1: Nice, She's older than I thought. She looks great for age,

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and I have a problem with her. My problem with

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her is that she lobbied for Qatar, which I think

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is problematic. But anyway, I thought she also did an

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excellent job from what I saw. I didn't watch the

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whole thing, obviously, what'd you think of her?

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Speaker 2: I just was distracted by what you said about lobbying

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for Katar or cutter. I don't know how to say it.

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I don't like when people lobby for foreign governments, period.

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And I think I was standing in line for a

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very long period of time today for inauguration related things,

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and I was in line with this like super nice

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guy named John who was a lobbyist. But I couldn't

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help myself, like the moment he said he was a lobbyist,

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and I was like, I hate lobbyists. Certainly, you know,

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something like this whole town is ruined by lobbying. But

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it's one thing, the lobby for an industry for, you know,

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to protect that industry from nefarious legislation or to you know,

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improve the situation for you in the communities that you benefit.

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I just don't like the foreign lobbying, and a lot

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of people do it. My husband and I made a

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decision early on to just not take any money from

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foreign entities for anything. So that would be like if

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a foreign person wanted help writing an op ed or

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a book or to advocate for their position, and we

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just decided we wouldn't do it. And it's you know,

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you can see that decision in the size of our house.

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And yet I still don't like that. Everybody does that.

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Speaker 1: You know, well, listen, I like a lot to me

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a lobbyist. It can be good or bad. I mean,

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they are good causes, they're good industries, they are bad ones.

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I don't view it, but I agree with you. I

476
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would never work for anyone for a foreign government, despite

477
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what people might think. Moreover, you're right, a lot of

478
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people in DC, especially back in the two thousands, would

479
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take money from a lot of weird countries to do

480
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a lot of things. I would never do that, not

481
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because I'm you know, a saint or anything, but I

482
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think it undermines your ability to be taken seriously if

483
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people find out, you know, and it's just not something

484
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you want to do. But more than that, I just

485
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basically hate almost every other country. So there's no country

486
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that can other maybe than Israel. I wouldn't do that either.

487
00:27:21,079 --> 00:27:24,559
That could entice me to help them. So anyway, I

488
00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:26,799
still get accused, of course, of being get taking money

489
00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:30,880
from the NRA, big tobacco, big food bag.

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Speaker 2: I was going to be like people, it's so bad,

491
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I do all this for free.

492
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Speaker 1: Nobody's me.

493
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: I'm just saying what I believe.

494
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Speaker 1: I wrote a pro pharma column recently which got me

495
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,799
a lot of anger well back for not but I

496
00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:47,880
didn't even take a penny from anyone. No fight. I'm

497
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a loser.

498
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:54,039
Speaker 2: Anyway. Back to the Pam Bondi thing, I wasn't. I

499
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don't know her that well. A lot of people who

500
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I like have spoken very highly of her, and and

501
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I even remember I was reading I think it was

502
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Randy Barnett's recent memoir, which is super interesting, and he

503
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,839
had that he was fighting Obamacare by talking about how

504
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,839
you you know, it's like the first time you were

505
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:24,079
penalized for not participating in commerce, right, and he said

506
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she was the only attorney general of a state who

507
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understood the argument. So I think it's you know, so

508
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I've always you know, I pick up little things people

509
00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:35,000
say here and there. They like her. What I'm mostly

510
00:28:35,039 --> 00:28:38,880
concerned about is the Department of Justice is completely corrupted.

511
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Will she be able to tackle that agency and do

512
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what needs to be done? I pray so. And I

513
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,839
do think that some of the people that are coming

514
00:28:47,359 --> 00:28:52,599
in there underneath her have personal experience with how corrupt

515
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it is, and that might help them have the energy

516
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and mindset of understanding how things work and what needs

517
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to be I hope. So she was ag.

518
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Speaker 1: In a serious state. It's a big organization itself, so

519
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,079
she has experience. I think she's very qualified for the job.

520
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And you know, whether you you know, you like her

521
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,480
positions or not. I thought she also did an excellent

522
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:23,319
job and seemed seemed very at ease answering questions and stuff,

523
00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:26,400
which matters in DC. Where you're not intimidated by these people.

524
00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:30,480
So I think that's good news. What did make me

525
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,720
laugh was it was I think it was Dick Durbin

526
00:29:34,839 --> 00:29:40,000
and others constantly saying, Hey, you just have to promise

527
00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:44,559
that you will not weaponize the Justice Department against your

528
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political enemies.

529
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Speaker 2: Please tell me. She talked about the weaponization of the

530
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department again.

531
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Speaker 1: She gave some specifics. What's the guy's name who kind

532
00:29:55,559 --> 00:29:59,880
of falsified FISA warrants and stuff. She mentioned, what's his name,

533
00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:03,480
I can't remember something, but anyway, Kevin Klein, Clement Kleinsmith.

534
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Speaker 2: He's like one of a thousand people who like.

535
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Speaker 1: But go on, she said, you know, we're going to

536
00:30:09,759 --> 00:30:11,960
look at it with an open mind, and if people

537
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,720
you know broke the law, we're going to prosecute. If not,

538
00:30:16,119 --> 00:30:17,519
like they gave her names, are you going to go

539
00:30:17,599 --> 00:30:20,440
after you know, lis Cheney or you know? And stuff

540
00:30:20,519 --> 00:30:23,839
like that. So I don't know why any one of

541
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these people should be above the law, including list Cheney.

542
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If she did something wrong. I'm not saying, you know,

543
00:30:28,119 --> 00:30:29,960
she did something illegable. If she did, she shouldn't be

544
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,960
above the law. I'm not. I'm not I don't understand why.

545
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Speaker 2: I want to know. Here's what could we go.

546
00:30:34,839 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: We deserve any deference.

547
00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:38,559
Speaker 2: Sorry, right, they're not above the law. I love when

548
00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:41,680
they're like Donald Trump is not above the law. Right,

549
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:44,640
he shouldn't be under the law either, you know, he

550
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,880
shouldn't be treated differently. Likewise, Democrats aren't above the law.

551
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This idea, like, you can't go after Democrats who may

552
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be engaged in a conspiracy against rights. Yes you can.

553
00:30:56,799 --> 00:30:58,960
You can certainly investigate it, Like there's more than enough

554
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,279
evidence that we had one of the worst you know,

555
00:31:02,359 --> 00:31:05,640
periods against rule of law in our country's history, with

556
00:31:05,759 --> 00:31:11,359
a coordinated conspiracy to go after every single Republican attorney

557
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,680
in different states. They were sharing information, you know, to

558
00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:19,000
go after these people to make questioning an election a crime,

559
00:31:19,119 --> 00:31:21,000
like not just a crime, but like a really bad

560
00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:22,680
crime that you could go to prison for for the

561
00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:27,480
rest of your life, like going after pro lifers and

562
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,920
Roman Catholics and parents like they should be held accountable.

563
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,559
Matthew Mehan had a great episode about this, and I

564
00:31:36,599 --> 00:31:38,799
think he'll be doing something with the Federalist Radio Hour

565
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,799
two talking about how justice is not vengeance. You know,

566
00:31:43,839 --> 00:31:45,720
you shouldn't go and say well, because you did this,

567
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we're going to make life horrible for you. And it's

568
00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:52,359
not neither is it waving it away like it didn't matter, like, Okay,

569
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we're going to let bygones be bygunes. Justice is truly

570
00:31:56,319 --> 00:31:59,640
about holding people accountable and restoring rule of law. And

571
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so if she answered, we're going to look into things

572
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and if there's something there, then we will pursue it.

573
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,599
That's the proper posture now, either to be like it's

574
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,160
okay that you tried to destroy the country. Who hasn't

575
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,359
done that a few times, you know, or to say, yeah,

576
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,559
we're coming after Liz Cheney.

577
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Speaker 1: I you know, forget Liz Cheney for a minute. There

578
00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:26,319
should be, if not prosecutions, a report. I want to know, Listen,

579
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,279
when you have power, you should actually be held to

580
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a higher in a sense, to a higher level of justice,

581
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:36,480
so you know than others, because you've destroyed lives and

582
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:39,920
you've destroyed the reputation of the Justice Department. So I

583
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,680
want to know who went after parents who went af

584
00:32:43,759 --> 00:32:47,559
their pro lifers why and did they follow you know,

585
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,319
proper regulations and process and all that as well. It's

586
00:32:51,319 --> 00:32:54,039
not just about criminality it's about the rot there and

587
00:32:54,079 --> 00:32:58,720
the corruption in that organization. Yes, you know they went

588
00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:02,400
after Donald Trump, they after attorneys who helped Donald Trump,

589
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,200
but they've also gone after people who have no voice,

590
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,400
who have no you know, who are just citizens who

591
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,400
were purposely, you know, with ay, you know, threatened to

592
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:16,359
chill speech. You know, pro lifers had their homes raided.

593
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,200
When you're doing something like that against someone who's powerless

594
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,480
to fight back, that's even worse in a way. It's

595
00:33:21,559 --> 00:33:25,279
just despicable. So I think we need to find out

596
00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:30,519
what happened, Mollie. Did you see the horrible news that

597
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,039
Jennifer Rubin is leaving the Washington Post to start a

598
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new publication with Norm Eisen. Is that his name? He

599
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,799
was like in the Obama administration. It's called Believe It

600
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or Not, The Contrarian.

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Speaker 2: I love everything about it. First of all, big congrats

602
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:56,480
to the Washington Post. Also, my anger over them publishing

603
00:33:56,559 --> 00:34:00,279
her was never really with her, like she's clearly not

604
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,000
mentally well, if people don't know who we're talking about,

605
00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:08,440
she's this very prolific blogger who went from one hundred

606
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,960
percent recitation of Republican talking points, no matter how stupid

607
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to one hundred percent recitation of Democrat talking points. No

608
00:34:16,559 --> 00:34:19,599
matter how stupid she is, there's not a single issue

609
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:23,400
she has not changed her mind on up to and

610
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,079
including whether she supports Israel or not, you know, which

611
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would have which it was like one of the last

612
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:31,760
ones to go, but it went down there at the end.

613
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:37,360
So she's not someone that anyone with intelligence listens to.

614
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:42,960
And the Washington Post employed her as their token conservative

615
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for like a decade, so rather than feature any conservatives

616
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on their op ed page, they ran a thing called

617
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like the Conservative Mind with Jen Rubin. None of the

618
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,639
words were true, you know, like it was just insane.

619
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So I assume she got fired or like a or

620
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told that her contract wasn't being renewed. And so she

621
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says she left the Washington Post and she wants to

622
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start this thing, yes, with a bunch of very well

623
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,119
funded never Trump baloose like Norm Eisen, but also people

624
00:35:14,159 --> 00:35:16,920
you know, we've written about it, the federalists like Stephen Richer,

625
00:35:17,039 --> 00:35:20,880
who I wrote what a bad job he was doing

626
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:25,880
as the guy running elections in Maricopa County, Arizona, and

627
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,440
he got ousted, and other people like that, like Andrew Weissman,

628
00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:34,559
who was the guy you couldn't critique as he ran

629
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:40,239
the Oh my gosh Mueller Report.

630
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Speaker 1: Yeah wrote Oh is he part of this? Wow?

631
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all just like in like that Asha ran Kappa.

632
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:46,719
I don't know how to say her name. O.

633
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: People were like.

634
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 2: Really out there in the Russia collusion space and the

635
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:59,880
Bill Crystal types. So they're calling the publication where they

636
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:03,639
will repeat the same things you hear at every other

637
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,800
major publication, the Contrarian which is pretty funny. And I

638
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,719
do have to give them credit for that joke, I

639
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,679
assuming they were meaning it as a joke. And they

640
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,679
also announced they're going to have a cooking like a

641
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:24,639
cooking column and a humorist. And guess who the humorist is, the.

642
00:36:24,599 --> 00:36:26,679
Speaker 1: Guy from the New Yorker who has never been funny.

643
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:27,840
What's his name Borwitz or.

644
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 2: Something, Andy Borrowitz, the humorist on the planet. So anyway,

645
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,000
I just like, I feel like between the Bulwark and

646
00:36:35,039 --> 00:36:39,519
the Dispatch, like you don't really need another never Trump

647
00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:42,559
baloo publication, Like what what are you going to get

648
00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:43,400
that you don't get there?

649
00:36:44,519 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: Obviously contrarianism would me. And you're at a certain kind

650
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,239
of publication, and you're saying things that people are not,

651
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:53,559
you know, that they don't expect. That's the whole point

652
00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:56,320
of a contrarian. There's going to be nothing contrarian on

653
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,960
this site. But I don't even know if this could

654
00:36:59,039 --> 00:37:02,079
be considered a never Trump's site as just the site

655
00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:05,199
of democrats. I mean, Norm Eisen is from the Obama administration.

656
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,719
Andrew Weissman is a was he ever a Republican and

657
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,079
he's always been kind of a Democrat. I mean, I

658
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:13,000
know you can be never Trump, but it's not the

659
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,400
same as people who were once conservative. Other than Jen

660
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,239
Rubin Jennifer Ruben.

661
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:19,639
Speaker 2: I actually think never Trump is the way to describe it.

662
00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:23,079
I would like to fight you on that, because they

663
00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:30,280
the entire media space of Republicans, with almost no exceptions,

664
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:38,079
is just never trumpers. But NBC, MSNBC and CNN and

665
00:37:38,159 --> 00:37:41,360
the Washington Post and the New York Times in the Atlantic, like,

666
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,760
if they're putting on a quote unquote Republican or if

667
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,000
they're publishing a quote unquote Republican, it's a never Trumper.

668
00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:54,360
And Jen Rubin I'm sure identifies as a Republican. Probably

669
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,840
Andrew Weissman certainly Stephen Richer was a Republican office holder.

670
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,400
The thing that you unites them all is an absolute

671
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,239
obsession and hatred for the Orange guy. That's true at

672
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,519
the Bulwark, that's true at the Dispatch, that's true at

673
00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:10,679
the Contrarian. That's like the only thing that unifies them.

674
00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:12,760
I don't think they have thoughts other than that.

675
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,599
Speaker 1: I have a couple of things to say on Jennifer Rubin,

676
00:38:18,639 --> 00:38:21,320
who has probably a really big readership because there's a

677
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,280
segment of people she just tells them what they want

678
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,960
to hear in a very excitable way. I would say

679
00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:30,679
was I was embarrassed of her writing during when Min

680
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,000
Romney was running for president, when I, you know, and

681
00:38:33,079 --> 00:38:35,039
I thought, you know, I want amt Romney to win,

682
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,119
you know, I thought he'd probably would be a decent president. Her,

683
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:43,280
like you say, recitation of those talking points constantly, no

684
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,559
matter what was said, was embarrassing. So when she switched,

685
00:38:46,559 --> 00:38:49,559
she was the same embarrassing hack, just for different people.

686
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:53,440
She's always been terrible in that way. But her reason

687
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:58,679
for alleged reason for leaving is that basically the Bezos,

688
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:04,239
the owner know what's his first name, Jeff, Jeff Bezo, Sorry,

689
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,719
I'm so bad with names. I can't help it. Who

690
00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:11,039
you know, who is who his money to burn? You know,

691
00:39:11,559 --> 00:39:14,199
props up the Washington Post, which is losing a ton

692
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,719
of money, is that he did not run an endorsement

693
00:39:18,119 --> 00:39:20,679
of Joe Biden. I mean that that is the reason

694
00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:24,519
she claims that that newspaper has lost its soul and

695
00:39:24,559 --> 00:39:27,360
so on. Meanwhile, can you think of a single writer

696
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,280
at that paper who would even give a fair framing

697
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,119
of a Donald Trump position? I mean every they have.

698
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,559
They have so many columnists at that paper who hate Trump.

699
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,119
The editorial board hates Trump.

700
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: All the reportings I could name one, Oh.

701
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,119
Speaker 1: That and what's his name? Will Willock?

702
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: Will I was, oh, Jason Willock is actually would I

703
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,840
was going to say, Mark Teisson and I don't agree

704
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,440
with everything Mark, I don't. I mean he and I

705
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,880
are like not in our disagreements on foreign policy, but

706
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I think he operates in pretty good faith.

707
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm still you know, I'm

708
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,039
still a fan of George Oyle. But that's only basically

709
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one of two or three people i'd read there who

710
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:12,840
I think are worthwhile.

711
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,559
Speaker 2: But but this is what I was kind of getting at.

712
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,000
We actually have a situation where more people voted for

713
00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:26,159
Donald Trump than voted for the Democrat you know who

714
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,159
all the media loved and endured in. What publication do

715
00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:34,079
you have a single representative of this of this majority

716
00:40:34,119 --> 00:40:36,679
of Americans or like, you know, uh, the.

717
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,519
Speaker 1: I mean legacy media. What legacy media outlet like New

718
00:40:40,599 --> 00:40:42,400
York Times, Oshanton Post, you don't.

719
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:44,519
Speaker 2: Like there was?

720
00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: CNN has one Scott Jennings, right, who does a good job?

721
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:49,199
Speaker 3: One?

722
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, one, I know, And it's incredible to see them

723
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,280
team up against him on that panel, including the alleged

724
00:40:58,519 --> 00:41:01,719
non unbiased yeah, Abby Phillips or whatever her name is.

725
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,039
It's it's kind of a joke, but he does a

726
00:41:04,039 --> 00:41:06,239
good job. But that's the only one I can think of, certainly,

727
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,239
no one at MSNBC. I love how the.

728
00:41:08,679 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 2: Los Angeles Times was like, we're changing, We're going to

729
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,280
bring on Scott Jennings, so the only conservative at CNN

730
00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:18,719
to be our only conservative at the Los Angeles Times.

731
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,039
That's not how it works. If you're changing and you

732
00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:24,119
want to be a legitimate media outlet, you start hiring

733
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,480
non leftist activists in the newsroom, for all of your

734
00:41:28,559 --> 00:41:31,079
news people, for all of your editors, for all of

735
00:41:31,079 --> 00:41:34,199
your assignment editors for your line editors, you know, and

736
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,000
then you bring in tons of people who aren't leftists

737
00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:41,199
to report. Yes, but for your editorial page then yeah,

738
00:41:41,199 --> 00:41:44,840
it should be definitely much more than a single solitary

739
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,440
person who voted for the guy who's about to be president.

740
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,760
You need to have this radical change. And like everyone's like,

741
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,679
oh no, Los Angeles Times is changing. They brought in

742
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,559
a columnist, buddy. The Los Angeles Times problems are not

743
00:41:57,559 --> 00:42:00,360
with the editorial page, which no one reads. It's with

744
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,679
everything else that they're doing at the Times. That's where

745
00:42:03,679 --> 00:42:04,599
they need to make change.

746
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,199
Speaker 1: Completely agree, it's a complete culture change that needs to happen.

747
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,519
You have to have someone in a newsroom, and I

748
00:42:10,559 --> 00:42:12,599
worked in a newsroom, and you've worked in newsroom where

749
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:18,360
newsrooms where you need them to challenge the framing or

750
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,519
the thrust or the facts of a story, which you

751
00:42:21,559 --> 00:42:23,719
don't get when you have everyone in group think on

752
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,000
the left. I'll give you a quick example. I sixty minutes.

753
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:30,199
Ran sixty Minutes when I was a kid, was like

754
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:35,440
the most respected investigative journalists institution there was. They ran

755
00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:39,440
a story on Israel the other day that could have

756
00:42:39,559 --> 00:42:44,679
been Al Jazeera. They had the State Department officials who resigned,

757
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,079
you know, because of our support of Israel, and they

758
00:42:48,199 --> 00:42:51,000
just let them lie and lie, because I think there

759
00:42:51,039 --> 00:42:53,199
was no one in the newsroom who would say, wait

760
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,280
a minute, that's not true. One hundred and eighty thousand

761
00:42:56,599 --> 00:42:58,760
people weren't kilt in Gaza, you know what I mean,

762
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,079
or whatever. So, yeah, you need a complete culture change.

763
00:43:02,519 --> 00:43:04,960
Putting a columnist, you know, honestly, I was kind of

764
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,960
a token columnist at the Denver Post, and you could

765
00:43:07,039 --> 00:43:10,039
see all I was doing almost was becoming a fact

766
00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:14,159
checker or kind of like by myself against a whole

767
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,920
paper trying to balance things. That doesn't work that way.

768
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:21,960
You need reporters who can chase stories that conservatives care about,

769
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,320
you know what I mean. Also, not just going after

770
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,039
Republican politicians all the time.

771
00:43:27,039 --> 00:43:29,199
Speaker 2: Yeah. This relates also to some other news that came

772
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,840
out this week that Yamish Alsandor, who I think is

773
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,519
at PBS, is returning to the White House to be

774
00:43:35,559 --> 00:43:38,719
a reporter. Well, she's not a reporter. She's a left

775
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,800
wing activist and she kind of got a name for

776
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,960
herself when she would fight with Donald Trump about things

777
00:43:46,039 --> 00:43:49,719
like whether the COVID virus came from China and whether

778
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,119
it was racist to say that it came from China.

779
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,880
Like every question of hers was filtered through a prism

780
00:43:54,920 --> 00:44:01,039
of like BLM type Marxist.

781
00:44:01,679 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: You know, they're not sending their best. You know that's saying.

782
00:44:04,519 --> 00:44:06,920
I mean, they're not, you know, but well go on.

783
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: But like she wins awards from her peers because they

784
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,840
love activism, like the kind she provided many awards. So

785
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,840
she takes a break from doing any kind of pushing

786
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,440
of a president during the Biden administration, and guess what

787
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,039
she's happy to announce she's on her way back. And

788
00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:25,840
it just reminds me, like people are like, we need

789
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,840
to fix this, uh White House newsroom. The problem is

790
00:44:31,199 --> 00:44:36,039
not really the newsroom. During Republican administrations, it's actually fine.

791
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:38,679
Then you have reporters who hate the president and a

792
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,880
president who has to answer a bunch of tough questions.

793
00:44:41,199 --> 00:44:45,079
That's okay. The problem is we don't have reporters during

794
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:50,679
Democrat administrations. We had a guy loses very like sense

795
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:55,199
of life during his administration, and everybody in America knew

796
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,280
other than the press that were there, and they didn't

797
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,320
turn on him until they thought it would hurt their

798
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,280
party's chance of winning an election, and then they asked

799
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,320
some tough questions and then once they sidelined him, they

800
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,480
were like, so it's okay to have him back as

801
00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:09,599
the commander in chief for the next nine months because like,

802
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,199
he's not a threat to our electoral chances anymore. I mean,

803
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:18,480
that's the threat. It's not having idiots like umiche alsendor

804
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,400
in the newsroom or in the White House press briefing

805
00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:24,360
room with a Republican That's fine. I mean it's stupid,

806
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,679
but it's fine. The problem is who's there. You goet

807
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,440
like four people who actually do their jobs during a

808
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,920
Democrat administration, none of them get called on. If they

809
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,480
even complain for a moment about not being called on,

810
00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:39,920
they get like a six month punishment, you know, and

811
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,880
there's nothing you can do about it. So we need

812
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,679
to make changes, but not like to do it now

813
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,280
is fine, But really the problem is Democrat.

814
00:45:48,639 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that a lot. I mean, I'm

815
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,719
fine with you yelling at the press secretary about this

816
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,000
or that as long as you do it all the time.

817
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,400
But you notice it's almost like they're reactivated, like all

818
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,039
of a sudden, the old faces or reappearing.

819
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 2: That huge journalism again.

820
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, you need to hire this is the kind

821
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,280
of person. Need to hire someone who hates everyone. I mean,

822
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,719
it's someone who is just doesn't like, is skeptical about

823
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,760
people in power, doesn't believe what they say, will go

824
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,039
to any length to bring them down as within within

825
00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:24,239
the framework of telling the truth, which sometimes doesn't happen,

826
00:46:24,599 --> 00:46:26,760
and they should be. That's the kind of person you

827
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,519
want to be a journalist. But that's not what we

828
00:46:28,599 --> 00:46:32,280
have anymore anyway. There I mean, they were losing so

829
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,920
much money. MSNBC is president or whatever or you know,

830
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,079
whatever position was just step down. Their ratings are have

831
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,400
tank did you see. I'm going to get the numbers

832
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,760
all wrong, but the Washington Post was had like I

833
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,840
think fifty five million hits a month is now down

834
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,360
to like eight or something. You know, there's just been

835
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,400
this huge collapse and those numbers are not right, but

836
00:46:54,639 --> 00:46:57,239
you know it's in the vein of that, so I

837
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,840
don't know, doesn't look like they're trying to fix Molly.

838
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean I think that's what you get

839
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,199
when you turn your publication into you know, Washing Post

840
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,760
was always horrifically biased. It has been forever, But in

841
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:16,039
twenty sixteen, when they decided to actually embrace being a

842
00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:19,000
propaganda outlet, they just lost it all. And it certainly

843
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,679
worked for a while, like people were like, we want propaganda,

844
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,079
we want to be fed these lies, and they won

845
00:47:24,159 --> 00:47:28,760
awards for their Russia collusion, coup efforts and other stuff

846
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,159
like that, and then people were like, wait, maybe it's

847
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,280
wrong to try to run a coup based on wrong information.

848
00:47:35,559 --> 00:47:38,679
And then now they've got no credibility and they don't

849
00:47:38,679 --> 00:47:41,440
have the ability to run a similar coup operation, and

850
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,079
so they're kind of screwed. The The main sorry, yeah,

851
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:46,559
I'm sorry now.

852
00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:48,639
Speaker 1: I was just saying, the main difference between twenty seventeen

853
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,079
and twenty twenty five, I think is that there's no

854
00:47:53,039 --> 00:47:55,760
the hysteric stone work. People don't believe it anymore. There's

855
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,880
no you know, there's no Russia collusion. Even if they

856
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,280
came up with one, No one I would believe it.

857
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 2: If there was something real that actually happened, nobody's believing it.

858
00:48:05,039 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: That's a problem. I mean that I was going to

859
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,519
say that that's also a problem with how we're dealing

860
00:48:09,559 --> 00:48:12,199
with these nominees. Now, I think these nominees are okay,

861
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,559
But if there was one who wasn't okay, I probably

862
00:48:14,599 --> 00:48:16,760
wouldn't believe anything the Washington Post is telling me.

863
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 2: So, David, I get from what we've talked about thus

864
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,519
far that you are not as obsessed as I am

865
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,639
about the Los Angeles fires. Is that accurate?

866
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: Everyone has become a fire expert on Twitter. I am not.

867
00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:33,000
I don't really. I watch it in horror. I feel

868
00:48:33,079 --> 00:48:35,880
very bad for people who's lost their homes, even very

869
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,400
rich people, even actors. Everyone. No one deserves that. But

870
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,840
I don't know who to if the government is to blame,

871
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,440
like I'm not as sure as everyone else, is that

872
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,440
it's climate change, which I don't think it is, or

873
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,079
that it's government you know, mishandling things. I don't know

874
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:50,280
is the answer? How about you.

875
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 2: I don't mean that I want to ascribe blame to it.

876
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, that's what we do here, Molly.

877
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:02,039
Speaker 2: I just mean that I am stop digging for information

878
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,880
and looking at pictures and checking in on friends. And

879
00:49:06,039 --> 00:49:08,440
you know, certainly had some friends who lost houses and

880
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:14,199
some friends didn't. And it's just the scope of the

881
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,119
damage and destruction is very difficult for me to wrap

882
00:49:18,119 --> 00:49:18,920
my head around.

883
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:24,119
Speaker 1: Me too, and I am not one of those images

884
00:49:24,159 --> 00:49:27,119
some of those images of entire neighborhood's just gone. It's

885
00:49:27,159 --> 00:49:30,320
just so hard to fathom, you know, in this country.

886
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 2: Thinking it's not even about rebuilding your house, which would

887
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:39,480
be an overwhelming difficulty, it's about your entire community is gone.

888
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,840
Your grocery store, in the schools, and the churches and

889
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,840
the you know, everything's gone. Probably your neighbors aren't all

890
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:52,360
coming back. How do you even navigate the construction process.

891
00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:57,280
It's just it's it's overwhelming to think about.

892
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,039
Speaker 1: It's brutal. I do I I do not want to

893
00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:04,719
describe blame, but I do wonder. It does feel like

894
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,440
there wasn't enough preparation for something that people have spoken

895
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,960
about for a long time, the possibility of it, or

896
00:50:13,039 --> 00:50:16,039
something like this happening, which has happened before quite often

897
00:50:16,119 --> 00:50:19,400
in smaller, you know, in smaller ways. So that does

898
00:50:20,679 --> 00:50:23,480
make me angry, though again, I hate to jump in

899
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,760
front of these things where I really have no expertise

900
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,599
on it, but it just does seem like.

901
00:50:28,119 --> 00:50:31,079
Speaker 2: So you know, fire fire happens, and the Santa Ana

902
00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:35,639
winds happen, and fire can happen naturally or it can

903
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,960
be set. But there are definitely things you can do.

904
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,920
And I would say, you know, one first and foremost,

905
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,039
brush clearing is very important to slow the spread of fires.

906
00:50:47,079 --> 00:50:49,360
And that's a problem I think, not just in California,

907
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,360
but in most of the Western States. They're not doing

908
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:57,760
the kind of well either. There are different philosophies here

909
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,880
let it burn or don't let it burn, but you

910
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:05,119
know there and it can kind of depend on the area,

911
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,000
and so sometimes you have to do controlled burns. And

912
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,840
there should be water to fight fires, and there should

913
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,480
be systems in place for pressure water pressure, and there

914
00:51:16,519 --> 00:51:20,519
should also be things like you know, California made it

915
00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:23,519
so that you weren't allowed to raise insurance rates for

916
00:51:23,599 --> 00:51:27,960
high risk areas, and so a lot of insurance just left.

917
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean that I have an opinion on Yeah,

918
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,440
stay farm left. It's just and so it's ice fixing.

919
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:35,920
I mean, it's just so stupid every time.

920
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 2: And then like a Los Angeles fire department that's the

921
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,239
same size as it was in the sixties and seventies

922
00:51:43,199 --> 00:51:45,840
when the city was a quarter of the size and

923
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:53,360
allocating significant parts of its budget to DEI and making

924
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:58,480
sure you're hiring enough trans and people and people women,

925
00:51:58,639 --> 00:51:59,920
and you know, things like that.

926
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 1: Ellie is very expensive. I assume property taxes are very high.

927
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,440
I assume all taxes in California, especially for the wealthy,

928
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,840
as high. And you would think that they would have

929
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,519
the best fire department that money could buy. I mean,

930
00:52:13,519 --> 00:52:15,199
it seems like it would be one of your top

931
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,679
concerns that in a police force. And yet you're telling

932
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,400
me I didn't even hear this, that the size of

933
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,719
the fire departments, you know, that's small. I mean, don't

934
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,119
you feel just to just overall? Yeah? No, gone.

935
00:52:29,519 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 2: Did you see that video of the fire lady. My

936
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,000
husband calls them top fire lesbians, but I don't know

937
00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:37,960
if this was a top fire lesbian or just a

938
00:52:38,039 --> 00:52:40,760
lady firefighter. I think she was a top fire lesbian.

939
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,840
She was saying that. She said. There's a clip of

940
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,280
her going around saying the wives say. The wives say

941
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,960
they're worried about me being able to carry their husbands

942
00:52:50,039 --> 00:52:52,719
out of a fire. And I say, if your husband

943
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,480
needs carrying out, he's messed up, right.

944
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: Really, I didn't see that.

945
00:52:57,599 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 2: Now, Well, it was kind of interpreted that she was

946
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,440
just talking about the public that she was saying that

947
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,480
if a woman in the public said, you're not strong

948
00:53:06,599 --> 00:53:08,599
enough to carry out my husband, that she would say, well,

949
00:53:08,599 --> 00:53:10,360
if your husband needs carrying out of a fire, he

950
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,480
messed up. When she was really saying it internally about

951
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:20,760
the wives of firefighters, the wives of male firefighters, that

952
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,880
she was telling them if they had like messed up

953
00:53:23,039 --> 00:53:26,440
or if they needed carrying out. And I'm been one

954
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,559
person was telling me that you need to trust the

955
00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:32,480
people on your crew so much that when you even

956
00:53:32,559 --> 00:53:35,079
like think they're thinking that way, it can really affect

957
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,360
what you're willing to do. And knowing that they've got

958
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,000
your back, you know, I'm going to go try to

959
00:53:41,039 --> 00:53:43,119
rescue this baby even though a beam might fall on me,

960
00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:46,079
because I know these people have my back and they'll

961
00:53:46,119 --> 00:53:48,079
drag me out. But if you're saying, like, oh, if

962
00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:50,559
you tried to rescue a baby, you done messed up.

963
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:55,480
I'm a lesbian, you know that's not healthy for the

964
00:53:55,519 --> 00:53:56,760
firefighter situation.

965
00:53:57,679 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's a completely other topic. You know, again,

966
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,920
I don't know how much that is in play here,

967
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:08,039
but obviously no one should care about what your sexuality

968
00:54:08,159 --> 00:54:10,360
is or who you are. Just get the best people

969
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,000
who can fight fires like anything else. I was just

970
00:54:13,039 --> 00:54:15,719
going to say before that there's I get this overwhelming

971
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,960
sense sometimes and I assume others do as well, that

972
00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:22,960
no one's doing their job anymore, that the institutions are

973
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,119
supposed to take you know, just think about the North

974
00:54:25,159 --> 00:54:27,119
Carolina and the you know, and the hurricane and all

975
00:54:27,159 --> 00:54:29,400
that went on there. It's you feel like there's just

976
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,599
a failure of our systems and the people in charge

977
00:54:32,639 --> 00:54:34,960
to take care to do the basics. They want to

978
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,159
do all the extra stuff that they can't do the basics,

979
00:54:37,679 --> 00:54:40,719
and you know, it's just it's a it's a feeling

980
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,840
of helplessness because these are the things we need them

981
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,000
to do and they can't do it. I don't know

982
00:54:45,039 --> 00:54:47,679
if I'm if that's an exaggeration or I'm over well.

983
00:54:47,559 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 2: I was just thinking that this is I think you

984
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:53,039
frequently speak as if the only like consideration is the

985
00:54:53,079 --> 00:54:56,119
bottom line, or you know, well, if if you need to,

986
00:54:56,639 --> 00:54:59,239
if you could do something cheaper, ship it overseas and

987
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,440
bring it back in with without thinking about what happens

988
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:06,440
to communities when you do that, Like that was wrong.

989
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,519
I'm going after you on something so different I'm.

990
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: Letting you do this, but we will return to this,

991
00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:14,960
because that is not my position at all. I'm just

992
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,039
saying we should cut corners to help.

993
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 2: Culture matters and communities matter, and when you're in a

994
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,119
tight community, you don't want to let people down because

995
00:55:23,119 --> 00:55:25,840
you know that will bring dishonor on your family. And

996
00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:28,679
we've kind of lost a lot of that with some

997
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,199
of these efficiencies. Everyone's always like super new efficiencies, and

998
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,559
sometimes efficiency brings with it bad downstream effects.

999
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: I'm too tired to get into a very big argument

1000
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,360
about this, so I'm going to let that lie. But

1001
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,119
I don't think that that is my position on things.

1002
00:55:44,159 --> 00:55:49,440
And I think and the the economic stuff we're talking about,

1003
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,480
I don't think leads to the anything any of these

1004
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,800
societal failures. But we can talk about that.

1005
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 2: It's cheap shot culture anything, not a lot. I just

1006
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,719
want to say, I'm sorry. That was really unfair of me,

1007
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:05,800
and I did not need to say.

1008
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to go after you soon another episode on

1009
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:12,880
that stuff. We'll talk about it. I don't I have

1010
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,679
some stuff but I don't know if I've mentioned it before,

1011
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,679
but I'm just going to mention it again. Anyway, there

1012
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:18,119
was something.

1013
00:56:18,159 --> 00:56:20,119
Speaker 2: Going to be something you mentioned last week.

1014
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:26,119
Speaker 1: Maybe one of them. I'm not sure, but I did

1015
00:56:26,159 --> 00:56:28,599
you were you the one who brought up the Martha

1016
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:33,800
Stewart documentary. So I watched most of it. It was

1017
00:56:34,079 --> 00:56:38,079
it was was interesting and she's an interesting character and

1018
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:41,079
all that, and it's complex again, right, some things I

1019
00:56:41,159 --> 00:56:44,679
liked about or some things I didn't, But James called

1020
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:49,920
me right kind of like railroadering into prison? What a

1021
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,880
bad guy? Yeah, it really was. I just don't think

1022
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,199
she deserved to be in prison. And I'm not one

1023
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,039
of these people who just wants to defend her because

1024
00:56:59,039 --> 00:57:01,880
she's a celebrity. I I feel like the government can

1025
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,719
abuse that kind of power on in you know, insider

1026
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,679
trading stuff, whenever it really wants against certain kind of people,

1027
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,280
you know, if it decides to go after them. I've

1028
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:17,440
always thought that. I watched Furiosa, you know, a Mad

1029
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,199
Max movie, which I liked. I had seen it earlier

1030
00:57:21,199 --> 00:57:24,039
and I didn't love it. But this one of my

1031
00:57:24,119 --> 00:57:25,800
kids told me, you know, they liked it a lot,

1032
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,960
So I rewatched it, and I actually liked it better

1033
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,760
the second time. Again for the tenth time, this is

1034
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,960
what I think. Maybe I mentioned last week was Ozark?

1035
00:57:33,039 --> 00:57:35,719
Did I mention the show Ozark? Last week? Okay, so

1036
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,519
Jason Baman is like this dark, breaking, bad sort of show,

1037
00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:40,440
and I watched try to watch it again because this

1038
00:57:40,519 --> 00:57:42,920
is all this is down my alley. I want like

1039
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,960
shows like this. There's not a single redeeming character. Everyone

1040
00:57:47,039 --> 00:57:49,239
is corrupting it and that's too much for me. I

1041
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,719
need someone or something to anchor the morality of the

1042
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,360
world there not everyone is evil, Like, there's not a

1043
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:59,320
single even tertiary character, you know what I mean? That

1044
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,880
isn't just bad and I can't I can't do it.

1045
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,920
I can't watch a show like that. I'm getting older

1046
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,239
and I'm soft, but you know anyway, So that's all

1047
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:08,519
I had.

1048
00:58:08,519 --> 00:58:14,519
Speaker 2: How about you, I've got nothing sorry about that. I

1049
00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:17,599
am getting ready for inaugural stuff. I take it you're

1050
00:58:17,639 --> 00:58:19,840
not coming up for anything inauguration related.

1051
00:58:20,159 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: No, that's not my jam.

1052
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 3: I was just.

1053
00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:25,039
Speaker 2: Thinking that, you know, my kids have had to put

1054
00:58:25,079 --> 00:58:27,719
up with a lot of mom and dad being gone

1055
00:58:28,079 --> 00:58:34,880
or late nights because of my work, and I was like,

1056
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,480
you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna make sure they

1057
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,079
get to the inauguration. So I put a lot of

1058
00:58:39,079 --> 00:58:44,639
effort into getting tickets for the inauguration, and I yeah,

1059
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,800
got them, and so we're going to do that. And

1060
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,639
we have friends coming in from out of town who

1061
00:58:49,719 --> 00:58:52,400
are also going, so that'll be fun. And I'm going

1062
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,960
to an inaugural ball.

1063
00:58:55,679 --> 00:58:59,119
Speaker 1: Wow, have you ever been to an inauguration before?

1064
00:59:00,159 --> 00:59:03,159
Speaker 2: Sure, I've covered a bunch of them and even had

1065
00:59:03,199 --> 00:59:06,320
like really good seats when I've done them before. This

1066
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,400
will be like standing, you know, somewhere in the back.

1067
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,440
But I'm just kind of excited about this one, and

1068
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,719
I'm excited that my kids will be there, and it

1069
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,119
just seems like a really great, you know, fun day

1070
00:59:21,159 --> 00:59:24,440
to spend standing around. I did also just have to

1071
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:28,159
stand in line for more than three hours to get

1072
00:59:28,159 --> 00:59:30,880
my tickets. You couldn't send someone else to do it,

1073
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,039
you had to do it yourself. And I feel like

1074
00:59:34,079 --> 00:59:36,880
I really bonded with the people in line around me.

1075
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,880
Got a good crew of people. That's it.

1076
00:59:42,639 --> 00:59:46,079
Speaker 1: I saw Carrie Underwood's performing. I'm just repeating something I saw.

1077
00:59:46,079 --> 00:59:47,760
I don't know any of her songs or anything, but

1078
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:48,519
she's famous.

1079
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 2: She is. She's very well known, so which.

1080
00:59:51,159 --> 00:59:55,079
Speaker 1: Is nice because typically you don't get big names really right,

1081
00:59:55,599 --> 00:59:58,159
for conservative inaugurations and stuff.

1082
00:59:59,239 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe not, but I don't know, and I like

1083
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,480
that she's doing it, and I like all of the

1084
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,519
sort of excitement around it. Even having to wait in

1085
01:00:07,559 --> 01:00:11,880
line three hours was an indication that this is there's

1086
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,000
a lot of interest in this. But I'll be going

1087
01:00:14,039 --> 01:00:17,039
to a lot of activities this weekend and doing a

1088
01:00:17,039 --> 01:00:21,000
bunch of TV and inauguration and balls and all that.

1089
01:00:21,199 --> 01:00:26,559
Speaker 1: So anyway, it's exciting, happy for you, happy for America.

1090
01:00:26,599 --> 01:00:29,159
It's gonna be a very nice day. Yeah, all right,

1091
01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:31,440
that's it. So you didn't watch a single thing.

1092
01:00:33,239 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: I'm in a bad place on work.

1093
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,599
Speaker 1: It's not a bad place. You're working on a book.

1094
01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:38,519
You got a lot going on.

1095
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, keep those emails coming at radio at the

1096
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,679
Federalist dot com, we love to read them.

1097
01:00:47,679 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll watch something next week and we look forward

1098
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,119
to it until then. The lovers of freedom and anxious

1099
01:00:52,119 --> 01:00:52,599
for the frame.

1100
01:00:53,239 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 3: We got a contoon though, with the Yamaha people dressed.

1101
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 2: Like there in Panama every weekend around these days.