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Speaker 1: a little miss Tracey take care of, don't we. So
Speaker 1: with all that sin. On this week's episode, Jerry and
Speaker 1: Tracy talk about the inspiration behind the Blair Witch Project
Speaker 1: Ma Dyer from Maryland. Now that I know a lot
Speaker 1: of people give that movie hate, I'd like that movie.
Speaker 1: I don't like the ones after, but the original one
Speaker 1: masterpiece and in my book, and then after I talked
Speaker 1: about that, Jason and Sam from Not Alone podcast joined
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Speaker 5: What have he turned on the light?
Speaker 3: Mixing in a little comedy to make sure that all.
Speaker 2: Fish is just right? Well, who to a hill billy
Speaker 2: horror story?
Speaker 4: Now here's your home, Jerry break Tackler's don issue and
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Speaker 6: This is Michelle Rodriguez from Hillsborough, California, and you're listening
Speaker 6: to kill Billy horror stories.
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Speaker 4: Tracy's It's been another one of those weeks where we've
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Speaker 4: Please welcome everybody to episode forty of Hillbilly Horror Stories,
Speaker 4: and we'd like to start off by wishing all of
Speaker 4: you mothers out there a happy Mother's Day.
Speaker 6: Happy Mother's Day.
Speaker 4: As mother's rock, of course, this is Jerry, and I'm
Speaker 4: joined by the mother of the hour, Tracy.
Speaker 7: That's right, we rock.
Speaker 4: If there's one thing I can definitely say, she is
Speaker 4: definitely a mother. We have got a really good show
Speaker 4: for you guys tonight. Hopefully this is a subject that
Speaker 4: not a lot of people have heard about. We're going
Speaker 4: to talk about Maul Dyer, which is the witch from
Speaker 4: Maryland that most people will tell you that the Blair
Speaker 4: Witch project was kind of based off of.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's really an interesting story and I don't know,
Speaker 6: I can just still see things in my mind after
Speaker 6: I've kind of watched the show and stuff like that,
Speaker 6: so it's pretty interesting.
Speaker 4: So if you heard that, that's pretty shocking. Not that oh,
Speaker 4: not about the witch, but the fact that Tracy actually
Speaker 4: watched something that's about the show all.
Speaker 5: Go me.
Speaker 4: In her defense, she did not do it on her own.
Speaker 4: She was kind of forced to because I was watching it.
Speaker 4: She just happened to be in the room.
Speaker 6: Oh it was good though, seriously.
Speaker 4: But we've got that story for you. I've got a
Speaker 4: kind of a cool story. It's it's not going to
Speaker 4: be a long story, but it's something I found in
Speaker 4: the news that actually a buddy by Missy Goodpastor sent me.
Speaker 4: But it's a story of a house up in Tacoma,
Speaker 4: Washington that you're gonna want to hear about because it's
Speaker 4: kind of a cool story. Then we're going to talk
Speaker 4: to the guys Sam and Jason from Not Alone podcast
Speaker 4: And if you guys haven't heard this podcast yet, it's
Speaker 4: a very intelligently done podcast. And what I mean by
Speaker 4: that is there's a lot of shows like ours that
Speaker 4: just people come out and they babble or they talk
Speaker 4: about stuff, and I'm including our show in with that
Speaker 4: their show that these guys are two college educated guys
Speaker 4: that almost take a philosophical approach to some of this,
Speaker 4: and it's just a different twist than what most of
Speaker 4: the paranormal shows are. And most of it some of
Speaker 4: it's paranormal, some of it's not paranormal. Some of it's
Speaker 4: like you know this talking about King Tut and a
Speaker 4: few other things like that. But I don't know you'll
Speaker 4: hear them at What they're going to do is is
Speaker 4: they're going to talk about Cheop of Cabra for us.
Speaker 4: Because that is Michelle Rodriguez who you heard in the beginning.
Speaker 4: That's one of her requests, and I've been putting it
Speaker 4: off and putting it off because I'm just not that
Speaker 4: interested in cheop of Cabra. But they talked about it
Speaker 4: on their show and it was really laid out in
Speaker 4: a way that I thought was actually interesting. So I thought, well,
Speaker 4: let's have them guys on and let's have them talk
Speaker 4: about it, since Jason is really fascinated by the subject
Speaker 4: and he knew a lot of details that were different
Speaker 4: than anything I'd ever heard.
Speaker 7: I don't even know how you say that word el chipcabra.
Speaker 6: Oh see, I didn't even know hear no L.
Speaker 4: I didn't say l the first time.
Speaker 7: Oh, but that's just it for real. That just means
Speaker 7: the so wasn't me.
Speaker 6: I mean, what does it say that word again?
Speaker 4: Chip a cabra?
Speaker 5: What? What? Oh my god?
Speaker 6: I said it again?
Speaker 4: Just say chiloopah and be done with it.
Speaker 7: To say supa cabra cabra.
Speaker 4: And I'm not even saying it right, I should, you know.
Speaker 6: But you know what I thought of when I heard
Speaker 6: King tut Steve Martin.
Speaker 2: Is it any other thing?
Speaker 4: If you remember we talked, we talked about Rendel from
Speaker 4: Forrest a couple of weeks ago, And one of the
Speaker 4: things we talked about but didn't get into big detail
Speaker 4: is how Captain Penston had really and all the zeros
Speaker 4: and the ones down in his book and and that
Speaker 4: was a binary code and that actually a couple of
Speaker 4: years ago he was doing something for ancient and aliens
Speaker 4: and uh, he gave them these codes and they turned
Speaker 4: out to be locations on maps. And one of the
Speaker 4: locations is High Brazil, and High Brazil is over off
Speaker 4: the coast of Ireland. It actually doesn't exist now. It's
Speaker 4: kind of like and think of Atlantis. Everybody knows what
Speaker 4: Atlantis is, and that was kind of the same thing,
Speaker 4: but it was on maps and its supposed to have
Speaker 4: been a group of people living there that were highly
Speaker 4: intelligent and then it just disappeared. But some people swear
Speaker 4: that they see the island appear like right before their
Speaker 4: eyes and then it just disappears.
Speaker 7: Well, how does it just how does it disappear?
Speaker 4: Maybe I don't know. That's what I got these guys
Speaker 4: on the show. I know nothing about this. This is
Speaker 4: that's what This is the kind of stuff that these
Speaker 4: guys talk about on the show. But it does tige
Speaker 4: into the rentals from Forest. So they're going to talk
Speaker 4: about those two subjects tonight, the uh High Brazil and
Speaker 4: uh L CHIPICCAPRAA okay, so pretty cool. That's going to
Speaker 4: be the main of it. Now, we got a couple
Speaker 4: of things to get out of the way right off
Speaker 4: the bat. First of all, thank you to all of
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Speaker 4: on the first we are gonna release a listener's Stories show.
Speaker 6: That's gonna be fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we've already been in contact with some people.
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Speaker 4: and that's kind of what it's gonna be. We may
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Speaker 6: So what we're saying is, don't look at the UH
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Speaker 4: what our regular show? Though, we've done some true crime
Speaker 4: stuff like I don't know, I guess you could say
Speaker 4: the Lizzie Borden was a true crime. Diatlov Pass was
Speaker 4: kind of a true crime, more of an unexplained You
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Speaker 4: So we're gonna take those shows and quit doing those
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Speaker 6: We need to do some more rock and roll stuff.
Speaker 4: We'll probably throw some rock and roll in there. That'll
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Speaker 6: It sounds good to me.
Speaker 4: No, We've got a couple other shout outs. We've got
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Speaker 4: this many every week, but I just got to get
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Speaker 6: And you guys have been so so nice and very
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Speaker 4: And by the way you do when you do these
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Speaker 4: even if it's just a first name, because somebody's iTunes
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Speaker 4: Mama four. She actually updated she I think was a
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Speaker 6: Oh thank you, darling.
Speaker 4: Then we've got MD one O two. Have no clue
Speaker 4: who that is.
Speaker 7: Then we go, he's a doctor. Do you not get it?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 4: Then we got Chelsea and ya, we know who Tracy.
Speaker 4: Chelsea is great goat x x LK. I'm not even
Speaker 4: going to gather a guess.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 6: That sounds pretty interesting. I'd like to know more about that.
Speaker 4: We got Greg c and Fresno, old school skater, nice,
Speaker 4: Callie King, dirt Omar forty two, Treko three eighteen. Then
Speaker 4: we got Mike Bengle. I think I know who he
Speaker 4: is because he's Mike Kingle could be Bengal. And then
Speaker 4: we got Serendipity seventy two. So it takes care of
Speaker 4: all the shout outs. We greatly appreciated, guys. Let's get
Speaker 4: on with the show. Of course, we played Witchy Woman
Speaker 4: by the Eagles.
Speaker 6: That's j Hey, you know what I don't well so well,
Speaker 6: we were talking earlier about some other songs that would
Speaker 6: have went perfect for this episode, but we'll go on
Speaker 6: with with They won't get it yet, I know. So
Speaker 6: that's why I'm not saying nothing. But we had so
Speaker 6: many songs that would relate to this so so much.
Speaker 4: So we get finished with a story, we'll tell you
Speaker 4: some of the other songs that do. But obviously Mold
Speaker 4: Dyer is a witch, and that's why we chose Witchy
Speaker 4: Woman ultimately. Yeah, so let's get into it. You know,
Speaker 4: we like to give you guys a little bit of background.
Speaker 4: And like we told you, she actually was the plot
Speaker 4: for the Blair Witch, not one hundred percent you know
Speaker 4: the movie was based on, but just the fact of
Speaker 4: the witch in the woods more or less was the
Speaker 4: whole thing. But this took place in Leonardtown, Maryland. Ricky'd
Speaker 4: be glad we're doing this once since he's from Maryland.
Speaker 4: Leonardtown was a very fertile as far as the land,
Speaker 4: it was a very fertile place. It's surrounded by water,
Speaker 4: and back in sixteen thirties is when and the colonists
Speaker 4: kind of started migrating to Leonardtown. Tobacco was there a
Speaker 4: big cash crop. That's how they made their money back then.
Speaker 4: The weather wise in Leintertown, it's typically a little cooler
Speaker 4: in the summer because there is so much water. The
Speaker 4: winters are fairly mild. They get snow once maybe twice
Speaker 4: a year. But in sixteen ninety seven the winter was
Speaker 4: actually brutal. There was something that came through that they
Speaker 4: call a light ice age, which basically meant that it
Speaker 4: just for some reason, everything was colder for a period
Speaker 4: of time.
Speaker 6: So like, every winter was not like that.
Speaker 4: No, every winter was not like that, But in sixteen
Speaker 4: ninety seven it was horrible. Temperatures were bottoming out in
Speaker 4: the single digits. Wind chill would have been below zero definitely,
Speaker 4: So that's you know, the way normally it would have
Speaker 4: been in the twenties worst case, and this was you know,
Speaker 4: it was you know, you got all you had blizzard conditions,
Speaker 4: you got all these super strong winds, much more snow
Speaker 4: than they would normally have. And you know, in these
Speaker 4: days there was no meteorologies, so.
Speaker 7: If there was no mother Nature was tripping.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean mother Nature was tripping. But also
Speaker 4: people didn't have any way of knowing what was going
Speaker 4: and they didn't know why it was so bad. So
Speaker 4: being back in the sixteen hundreds, people always had to
Speaker 4: have a reason to claime it on something. So obviously
Speaker 4: their reason was the town was cursed and the winter
Speaker 4: was so bad that food was scarce, lots of people died,
Speaker 4: and that just made it even worse. Muldyre was an
Speaker 4: old woman, a very ugly woman. I will point out,
Speaker 4: it was very It was listed in several occasions that
Speaker 4: she was like hideous.
Speaker 6: Well she can't help that.
Speaker 4: Well no, but that's sixteen hundreds. You're hideous. You live
Speaker 4: out in the woods by yourself, you know. But she
Speaker 4: was a very eccentric woman, Like I said, she lived
Speaker 4: out in her own in the woods. The townspeople decided
Speaker 4: that she was a witch, and she was behind the curse.
Speaker 4: Even though they knew nothing about a curse, they just
Speaker 4: assumed there was a curse and she had to be
Speaker 4: behind it. Her actions didn't really help anything, because as
Speaker 4: far as image wise, people knew that she was out
Speaker 4: on her own. This winter was horrible, and where people
Speaker 4: had huge families kind of helping each other just survive,
Speaker 4: she was just all by herself. But yet she didn't
Speaker 4: seem to be struggling at all where everybody else was struggling. Well, mean,
Speaker 4: she's by herself, well right, but I mean, how's this
Speaker 4: old woman able to just make ends meat and get
Speaker 4: all the food and everything together she needed in the
Speaker 4: worst winter that anybody's ever seen. Well, you know, they're
Speaker 4: just saying what she used to do is and this
Speaker 4: wouldn't really met with real friendly reason either with the people.
Speaker 4: She used to gather all kinds of herbs and stuff.
Speaker 4: When it would be warm outside, she'd gather herbs and
Speaker 4: stuff like that because she was good like a medicine woman.
Speaker 4: She was good at making remedies and stuff. So she
Speaker 4: would sell these herbs that she would gather in these
Speaker 4: sticks and make little remedy baskets, and she would trade
Speaker 4: them to the Indians for pelts and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: That was because I was going to say, Okay, she's
Speaker 6: good enough for the medicine for the people, but then
Speaker 6: the tables turned.
Speaker 4: Well, I wouldn't say she was good enough for the
Speaker 4: people because she actually would. People would feel forced to
Speaker 4: buy the stuff from her because they thought if they
Speaker 4: didn't buy it, she would curse them. So it's almost
Speaker 4: like she's she's like, here's some sticks, give me some money,
Speaker 4: or some of the consequences. The townspeople were afraid of her,
Speaker 4: but they dealt with her for years. I mean she'd
Speaker 4: lived there, like seven eight years of them crossing pass
Speaker 4: and it's just like you know, when people would see her,
Speaker 4: they just would kind of avoid her and talk about her,
Speaker 4: but they wouldn't have any contact with her. So the
Speaker 4: weather got so bad in sixteen ninety seven it was
Speaker 4: actually listed in the Maryland in Council meeting logs as
Speaker 4: the longest winter in history. It was enough where they
Speaker 4: felt the need. It was so cold that that all
Speaker 4: the crops and died, so then they had a lot
Speaker 4: of the live stock died. So these people were that's
Speaker 4: why they were starving. They said that the rivers would
Speaker 4: actually freeze as they You could watch the rivers freeze.
Speaker 4: It was so cold. You know, obviously it's not going
Speaker 4: to stop flowing like fro solid, but they're just you know,
Speaker 4: it was frozen around, you know, the sides of it
Speaker 4: and stuff like that were really narrowed the ways. Maul
Speaker 4: Dyer obviously, she's, like I said, she's surviving one of
Speaker 4: the harshest winters. And I just had people talking with
Speaker 4: the colonies, trying to gather their wits about them and
Speaker 4: trying to make some sense of this winter. They also
Speaker 4: got hit with this huge I won't say a plague,
Speaker 4: it was more of an outbreak of influenza, but it
Speaker 4: basically a lot of people started dying from it. You
Speaker 4: had people starving to death. Now you've got this illness
Speaker 4: where everybody's dying.
Speaker 7: That's terrible.
Speaker 4: Somebody had to be to blame, and it had to
Speaker 4: be witchcraft. So they decided they were going to do
Speaker 4: something with Muldarn. To keep in mind, during this time,
Speaker 4: witchcraft was punishable by death. It was against the law
Speaker 4: and it was punsible death. And on the coldest night
Speaker 4: of the year, the townspeople they became judge and jury
Speaker 4: torches in hand. They went to Muldyr's house. They set
Speaker 4: the house on fire. It was completely engulfed in flames.
Speaker 4: Temperature was right around zero degrees that night. Uh no,
Speaker 4: probably ten below zero with the wind show factor. Somehow
Speaker 4: another Muldyre gets out of the house. They don't see her,
Speaker 4: but she's out. She kind of retreats back to the woods.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I'm sure she had to see him coming.
Speaker 7: Well with all the flames.
Speaker 4: Yeah so, I mean, but she the the story says
Speaker 4: that she kind of went to the edge of the
Speaker 4: woods to where she could hear the animals and stuff
Speaker 4: screaming from being burned alive.
Speaker 6: Oh, don't tell me that.
Speaker 4: And like I said, the guys didn't hear. And then
Speaker 4: some people say, well, how did she get out? They
Speaker 4: set the house on fire and all this stuff. But
Speaker 4: some people say that satan and kind of enveloped her.
Speaker 4: Is it enveloped? Enveloped? Because I always say I don't
Speaker 4: like people to say, hand me an envelope so I
Speaker 4: can send this letter envelope. It's not an envelope. It's
Speaker 4: not an envelope. It's an envelope. But in this case,
Speaker 4: I think it's better to say enveloped her into the
Speaker 4: smoke and kind of set her down into the woods.
Speaker 4: That's what the story is. Yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 4: Satan's really into that business or not, or if that's
Speaker 4: so she's on the edge that Now, keep in mind,
Speaker 4: with the weather as bad as it is, she's got
Speaker 4: nothing but the clothes on her back. She's she's not
Speaker 4: prepared to be out there in sub zero temperature, and
Speaker 4: you know she's like just roaming through the woods. Well,
Speaker 4: the rumor is, as she's strolling through the woods, she's
Speaker 4: basically cursing the town, knowing that she probably doesn't have
Speaker 4: long to live. She's cursing the town. Now. I think
Speaker 4: the people that burned down, the townspeople, they thought that
Speaker 4: she died in the fire. They wasn't really sure. But
Speaker 4: what happened was several days later, this younger, younger guy,
Speaker 4: probably a teenager I think, was roaming through the woods.
Speaker 4: He was trying to round up some cattle that had
Speaker 4: gotten out, and he comes across her body. Now you
Speaker 4: need to kind of picture this. She was frozen solid.
Speaker 4: She was down on her knees. One of her knees
Speaker 4: was touching this big rock, think of boulder, boulder of
Speaker 4: her knees was touching the rock, her left hand was
Speaker 4: on the rock, and her right hand was raised towards
Speaker 4: the heavens.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, as if she was like cursing, curse you, yeah,
Speaker 7: you mofos.
Speaker 4: And I'm sure that's exactly how it went in sixteen
Speaker 4: ninety seven and the mofos.
Speaker 6: Cursed now, mofos.
Speaker 4: But that's how they found her.
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 6: So she was literally frozen solid with her hand straight
Speaker 6: up in the air.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right hand in the air, left hand on the rock.
Speaker 6: Yes, and like her fingerprints were in the rock.
Speaker 4: Yes, thanks for stalling that part of the story. But uh,
Speaker 4: since I hadn't mentioned that yet, so I.
Speaker 7: Told you I watched the show.
Speaker 4: Let's go back and pretend, uh I didn't hear that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: let's go back and pretend you didn't hear that. When
Speaker 4: they pulled her off of the rock, her fingerprints from
Speaker 4: her left hand were imprinted into the boulder, not like
Speaker 4: finger rants on there, like embedded, like deep, you know,
Speaker 4: each finger had its own little crevice into the rock.
Speaker 7: So I wouldn't that far ahead the story.
Speaker 4: But it didn't matter. You said it, and we hadn't
Speaker 4: talked about it yet, so you said it as a
Speaker 4: matter of fact, like we already talked about it. Ew,
Speaker 4: you can't watch any of this stuff anymore.
Speaker 6: See, that's why I'm saying, that's why I can't watch
Speaker 6: this stuff anymore.
Speaker 4: They buried her in it's freezing rain, a dreary day,
Speaker 4: but they buried her, and they buried her extra deep,
Speaker 4: about a mile from town, and that's where she supposedly
Speaker 4: still is now. As far as the rock, we're going
Speaker 4: to get into that a little later.
Speaker 6: Did they bury her in a box or do they
Speaker 6: just put her body down in the ground.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Well, if you think about that, well I don't think
Speaker 6: it really matters. They have to snap her arm off.
Speaker 6: If they put her in a box, they.
Speaker 4: Could have thought her out. Oh nobody said they just
Speaker 4: took her straight over there.
Speaker 7: No, that's true.
Speaker 6: Okay, near mind go ahead. Sorry, Sorry, I was just
Speaker 6: thinking about that.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just thinking about it. I'm actually digging
Speaker 4: a hole that's shaped like.
Speaker 6: Kind of dropped her down.
Speaker 4: When those operation pizzas pieces or something. So anyways, she's
Speaker 4: buried and they think everything is completely done as far
Speaker 4: as they're concerned. There's a funny thing though, all these
Speaker 4: you know, these things started happening. They had all these
Speaker 4: different incidents started happening from that point on. And what
Speaker 4: she did was, they said, the curse that she put
Speaker 4: on the town was basically for them to have horrible
Speaker 4: crops forever and for any of the families that lived
Speaker 4: in that town to just be no luck whatsoever. Everything
Speaker 4: was just bad luck in their life. And that's the
Speaker 4: way it was designed to be. And the little town,
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it looks like a quaint little town.
Speaker 4: And everybody that town knows the legend of Muldyr. They
Speaker 4: have Muldayr Road, which is right there on her property,
Speaker 4: or what was her property. They have Muldyr Creek which
Speaker 4: is named after her, and that's supposed to be the
Speaker 4: area where she came running. Oh I see, she was
Speaker 4: running away. That creek was along the lake, which is
Speaker 4: why they named it Muldar Creek. There had been a
Speaker 4: bunch of strange things happen on or near the property
Speaker 4: since all this happened, but especially like Kathy lastly, who
Speaker 4: owns the property now that would have been Muldyr's property
Speaker 4: back in sixteen ninety seven, when she died. She says
Speaker 4: that there are all kinds of crazy things that happen
Speaker 4: on the property. She sees things walking along the creek bed,
Speaker 4: which was, like I said, the creek that she would
Speaker 4: have went down. They see a lady walking around in
Speaker 4: like white cloaks, white dress with the bonnet and long
Speaker 4: gray hair. There's also sightings out on the road in
Speaker 4: front of the property and also been several bad She
Speaker 4: tells the story of one time where a guy, if
Speaker 4: young guy, comes knocks on the door and says, hey,
Speaker 4: you gotta come help. There's been a wreck. Her and
Speaker 4: her husband run out there. The cars upside down. The
Speaker 4: guy's hanging upside down in his car, his seat belt
Speaker 4: won't come loose, and he's attached the cars leaking gasoline.
Speaker 4: You know, they're scared to death of k not gonna
Speaker 4: get the guy out there, think the car is gonna explode. Eventually,
Speaker 4: EMS gets their emergency Medical services and ambulance and they
Speaker 4: get out there and they cut the guy loose from
Speaker 4: the seat belt and end up saving him. But she
Speaker 4: says that's just one of several bad wrecks that happened
Speaker 4: right there on that property.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm sure there is a bunch of stuff that
Speaker 6: go on. So I guess that lady knew that the
Speaker 6: story before she bought the house.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she knew. Just most people just they don't look
Speaker 4: at it as being a real situation until they're confronted
Speaker 4: by it. Now you got Karen Stole for her and
Speaker 4: three friends are driving around. This is about thirty five
Speaker 4: years ago. Now this is the story, one of the
Speaker 4: stories that really kind of blends into the Blair Witch
Speaker 4: type philosophy. Karenstoff and her three friends are driving. They
Speaker 4: decide they're going to pull over and walk through the woods. Now,
Speaker 4: her friends say, hey, don't do that. This is the
Speaker 4: Muldire Woods, that's what they call it, the Muldar Woods.
Speaker 4: And she's like, well, just you know, you're a bunch
Speaker 4: of chicken shits. Let's just do it. They go walking
Speaker 4: through the woods, and she said, the whole time they
Speaker 4: were there, it's almost like somebody was watching you, Like
Speaker 4: somebody was just kind of following you. She said. When
Speaker 4: they got kind of to the middle of the woods,
Speaker 4: these winds. This is a beautiful day, you know. When
Speaker 4: they started walking and these winds just kicked up out
Speaker 4: of nowhere about twenty mile an hour winds. That's pretty strong.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Then all of a sudden there was this random lightning.
Speaker 4: Then there was thunder, and it got so bad they
Speaker 4: just turned around and they ran back to the road,
Speaker 4: and the whole time they felt like something was chasing them.
Speaker 4: They get to the road and once they got through
Speaker 4: the road, now the wind or out of the woods,
Speaker 4: everything stopped. No more light named, no more thunder, beautiful day.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, no win.
Speaker 6: That's creepy.
Speaker 4: So all that happened just as they were back there.
Speaker 6: So I bet it scared that woman. Now she didn't
Speaker 6: I wonder she ever went back in there.
Speaker 4: Well, no, she says, she's never been anywhere close to.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I wouldn't be either.
Speaker 6: She's crazy. I never would have went in there.
Speaker 4: Now, we said that we were going to talk a
Speaker 4: little more about the rock. This rock where she was
Speaker 4: there was missing for years and years and years. Just
Speaker 4: nobody knew where it was. I mean, it was in
Speaker 4: the ground still, but that's that's just where it was,
Speaker 4: and nobody could actually say this is where the rock was. Well,
Speaker 4: this this guy decided he wanted to find out where
Speaker 4: this rock was. He came to town he starts talking
Speaker 4: to people. He finds this really old guy that says,
Speaker 4: I remember singing that rock when I was a boy.
Speaker 4: They go track it down. It's actually in the creek bed,
Speaker 4: oh kind of and plued it. Now, there's a couple
Speaker 4: of different times to where people tried to get that
Speaker 4: rock up and there was always a major problem happened
Speaker 4: to where they couldn't get it up, Problems with equipment,
Speaker 4: problems with this thing weighs about almost eight hundred or
Speaker 4: almost nine hundred pounds, but there was always some major
Speaker 4: problem that happened with equipment or something to where when
Speaker 4: they were trying to dig this rock up. Well, eventually
Speaker 4: in the seventies they dug it up. The handprint still
Speaker 4: there and where she had her knee it's still there.
Speaker 5: Cool.
Speaker 4: So now it's actually outside of the courthouse there in town.
Speaker 4: And there's a story about a young lady by the
Speaker 4: name of Lynne bone Very. It's almost like bone Vrage. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So anyway, she there's a story about her and her
Speaker 4: husband or walking through town. She's walked by there plenty
Speaker 4: of times. She's walked past the rock. And they were
Speaker 4: at the Historical Society, which she liked to go to.
Speaker 4: They decided they were just going to walk around town.
Speaker 4: They walked by the courthouse and she decided that she
Speaker 4: was going to touch the rock. Now, you're not supposed
Speaker 4: to do that. They say that, you know, just getting
Speaker 4: near it could be a problem, but touching it as
Speaker 4: a no no. Yeah, she goes, she sees the handprint,
Speaker 4: She puts her hands into the handprints, and at that
Speaker 4: time she said she felt nothing.
Speaker 5: She was fine.
Speaker 4: You know, she's kind of laughing it off. She got
Speaker 4: up to start to walk away. Within thirty seconds of
Speaker 4: her walking away, she started coughing violently. She couldn't catch
Speaker 4: her breath. She said, if she felt like her lungs
Speaker 4: were burning. Oh, she starts coughing up blood. Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Said she felt extremely weird. She was woozy, and they
Speaker 4: were trying to debate whether to go to the doctor
Speaker 4: or the hospital or something like that, and they decided
Speaker 4: against it. And she said, about forty five minutes later,
Speaker 4: she felt fine, but she's convinced that there's some kind
Speaker 4: of negative energy with that rock for that problem.
Speaker 6: See, people leave stuff alone.
Speaker 4: And then the last little bit is basically people claimed
Speaker 4: that on the coldest night of the year that you
Speaker 4: can see her out walking the streets. She obviously died
Speaker 4: on the coldest night.
Speaker 5: Of the year.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's just I don't know, it's almost like a
Speaker 6: sad story.
Speaker 4: It is a sad story because who knows if she
Speaker 4: is a witch or not a witch. But she definitely
Speaker 4: was treated as an outcast just because she was basically
Speaker 4: an outcast. Yeah, I mean she she was just somebody
Speaker 4: that just chose to do things her own way for
Speaker 4: all intent and purposes. I never read anything where she
Speaker 4: actually bothered anybody.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 6: But so the lesson is don't judge people.
Speaker 7: Dang it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what they say, you can't judge a
Speaker 4: book by its cover.
Speaker 7: That is so true.
Speaker 4: Well, unless it's a girl sucking a guy's wanger. Then
Speaker 4: this porn Jerry, I'm just saying you can judge that.
Speaker 6: Sorry, so sorry listeners.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about some of the songs we were going
Speaker 4: to choose.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, so I came up with. One was Coda's ice.
Speaker 4: Very disrespectful by the way it is, well yeah, oh
Speaker 4: and else what stiff upper.
Speaker 6: Stiff up her lift? I thought that was funny.
Speaker 5: What was there more?
Speaker 7: Was there just the two?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: There was a couple of them. Ninja, now Ninjas trying
Speaker 4: to tell you that the one you were missing is uh,
Speaker 4: I don't know, Yeah, you couldn't. But that's the story.
Speaker 4: So I want to read you, uh, talk to you
Speaker 4: about this other little story I kind of teased in
Speaker 4: the beginning of the show about the house up in Tacoma, Washington. Well,
Speaker 4: here's the funny thing about this house. There was a
Speaker 4: kind of a famous serial killer most of you have
Speaker 4: heard of, by the name of Ted Bundy, not Al Bundy. Oh,
Speaker 4: jee just want to cure some people.
Speaker 6: That's that's pretty good.
Speaker 4: Ninja apparently disagrees. He's my my favorite, uh, my favorite
Speaker 4: part of the old Al Bundy colloquialisms. I love all
Speaker 4: the Albundy stuff. But I remember one time on the
Speaker 4: show there was a peeper, the peeping tom that was
Speaker 4: looking through the all the windows, and then Marcy came
Speaker 4: over to the house and she says, hey, the guy
Speaker 4: just peeped me. And then Peg was all upset because
Speaker 4: nobody had peeped her. And she said, she said hell,
Speaker 4: she said, nobody wants to peep me. Hug me, And
Speaker 4: he said, oh, nobody wants to hug either. Peg.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so funny had it going on though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure you would think. So nineteen eighties called
Speaker 4: they both want your hair back. Oh all right, so
Speaker 4: let's talk. Let's talk about this story. So Ted Bundy
Speaker 4: his childhood home up in Tacoma, Washington. It was for sale,
Speaker 4: a guy bought it. He's gonna flip it. So he
Speaker 4: gets some contractors to come into it, and I'm gonna
Speaker 4: read you a little bit about what went on. But
Speaker 4: Casey Clompton, he had his contracting company, caught Extreme Contracting.
Speaker 4: They were hired in September this past year to come
Speaker 4: do the home. So he says he noticed red flags
Speaker 4: right off the bat. The second time he went to
Speaker 4: the house, he had his eleven year old daughter. She
Speaker 4: was trying to go upstairs and she started crying and
Speaker 4: saying she didn't like it. She just did she didn't
Speaker 4: feel well. And he chalked it up to, you know,
Speaker 4: a little kid just being scared of the dark, you know,
Speaker 4: what have you. And then he said that while they
Speaker 4: were there, he started hearing phantom footsteps, people jiggling door knobs,
Speaker 4: and that actually went on for months because it took
Speaker 4: them a long time to do this. He said that
Speaker 4: after all the doorknobs and stuff like that, they were
Speaker 4: already thinking stuff was weird. But then one of the workers,
Speaker 4: he claimed that somebody knocked on the door. He went
Speaker 4: out there and opened it. There was nobody there. Then
Speaker 4: he said that some mornings they would come in and
Speaker 4: several drawers and cabinets were opened up, but they had
Speaker 4: an alarm on the place, and the alarm was never
Speaker 4: set off. All the exterior doors and stuff were still locked,
Speaker 4: but all this stuff was moved on the inside. The
Speaker 4: biggest thing was that there was a dresser. Now, this
Speaker 4: dresser apparently was built into the wall. You know, it
Speaker 4: was like kind of like a hole. A hole had
Speaker 4: bit in the wall and the dresser pushed underneath other. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and one day it had fell, apparently, And he said,
Speaker 4: this thing took like two people to do it.
Speaker 6: How does it fallout the wall?
Speaker 4: Well, that's what he's saying. It was completely tipped over,
Speaker 4: and not only that, it was moved across the hall
Speaker 4: a little bit and on its face. So there's no
Speaker 4: possible way that this thing should have not only fell,
Speaker 4: but it was like it fell and then moved down
Speaker 4: the hall a little bit.
Speaker 6: Oh Man, that's creepy.
Speaker 4: He said, I couldn't figure it out. We thought someone
Speaker 4: might be pranking him. So with these all these different incidents.
Speaker 4: So even the real estate broker, a guy named James Pitts,
Speaker 4: he said that he even had a spooky moment when
Speaker 4: he was there. He was trying to record a Facebook
Speaker 4: live video down in the basement and I guess to
Speaker 4: try to show people the property. He said, his phone
Speaker 4: kept resetting itself, and it kept doing it and kept
Speaker 4: doing it, and eventually it just shut completely off, he said,
Speaker 4: just completely crashed. Why he was down there, Wow, heat
Speaker 4: now Clofton the guy who runs the crew for trying
Speaker 4: to fix the place up, he said that they experienced
Speaker 4: over thirty different incidents while they were there, and that's
Speaker 4: here's some of the creepy shit.
Speaker 5: Though.
Speaker 4: They found two notes in the house. One of them
Speaker 4: was up in the bedroom. It was it said leave
Speaker 4: written in sawdust because there was like sawdust and it
Speaker 4: said leave written in saw dust. Then they went they
Speaker 4: was down in the basement and on the inside of
Speaker 4: a window. You know how windows get dirty, especially when
Speaker 4: you're new work, So down in the basement, on the
Speaker 4: inside of the window it said help me. It said,
Speaker 4: help me written in the dirt. So what they decided
Speaker 4: to do they started writing like Bible verses on the walls.
Speaker 4: I guess they were going to paint over them. Eventually
Speaker 4: they started writing Bible verses on the walls. They brought
Speaker 4: in a pastor from a local church. He did a
Speaker 4: walk through reading Bible verses. He tried to clear any
Speaker 4: negatives spirits, and then Clofton, the guy who ran the team,
Speaker 4: he instituted a rule that Christian music had to be
Speaker 4: played at all times inside. He said, when you came in,
Speaker 4: you could turn it down or you could turn it up,
Speaker 4: but you couldn't turn it off.
Speaker 7: Oh wow.
Speaker 4: And he said after that everything kind of calmed down.
Speaker 4: So it took four months longer than they thought it
Speaker 4: was going to and eventually they finished up in April.
Speaker 4: So they just got through with this thing last month.
Speaker 7: Oh wow.
Speaker 4: And so the house was sold and he was just
Speaker 4: happy that the project was over, and you know, they
Speaker 4: were asking him about, you know, what his thoughts was
Speaker 4: on it, and he's like, look, there's got to be
Speaker 4: something else out there, you know, that's what I think.
Speaker 4: I'm glad that I got faith on my side. And
Speaker 4: you know, we're just glad to be out of that place,
Speaker 4: is what he faces.
Speaker 6: So I wonder if I wonder if those people like
Speaker 6: when they try to sell it, told whoever the buyers
Speaker 6: about it.
Speaker 4: Sure they didn't. And according to Puget Sound Regional Archives,
Speaker 4: the Bundye family bought that home in nineteen fifty five
Speaker 4: when Ted Bundy was eight and they sold it in
Speaker 4: nineteen sixty five, so he was there from what until
Speaker 4: about time he was eighteen years old. They try to
Speaker 4: talk to the people that live at the house now,
Speaker 4: but they couldn't contact them.
Speaker 7: Oh really, So it's a pretty cool little Yeah, that
Speaker 7: is very cool.
Speaker 4: All right. With that being said, we are going to
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Speaker 4: for that first episode when it gets released. Now, we're
Speaker 4: going to introduce the guys from Not Alone Podcast. This
Speaker 4: was a fun interview. We actually did it the other night.
Speaker 4: And when it's all said and done, I think you
Speaker 4: guys will probably want to check out their show. So
Speaker 4: let's hear from the guys. Hi, everybody, welcome back to
Speaker 4: He'll Billy Horror Stories. And I've got some special guests
Speaker 4: on the phone. I've got Sam and Jason from Not
Speaker 4: Alone Podcast. How are you guys doing today?
Speaker 5: We're good, well, Jared, Yeah, how are you?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 4: I can't complain it all man. I'm excited to have
Speaker 4: you guys on for a couple of reasons. But first
Speaker 4: and foremost, you know, I stumbled across to you guys
Speaker 4: on Twitter, uh and and started talking to you Sam
Speaker 4: a little bit. And you know, I've really become a
Speaker 4: huge fan of your show. So that was the That
Speaker 4: was the first reason why I said, like, I got
Speaker 4: to have these guys on, because you guys are right
Speaker 4: up my alley as far as what I like in
Speaker 4: a podcast.
Speaker 5: Awesome than Jared, Thank you great. That's good to know.
Speaker 5: Good couple actually like it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I will say this too, and and and some
Speaker 4: people might take this as an insult. It's really not
Speaker 4: an insult, but a lot of the paranormal podcast that
Speaker 4: I listened to are the unexplained podcast because I don't
Speaker 4: want to lump everything into a paranormal you know, it's
Speaker 4: not as intelligently laid out as your guys show. It's
Speaker 4: obvious listening to you guys that you're both very well
Speaker 4: educated and you take an approach of really breaking a
Speaker 4: subject down almost scientifically at some points, and a lot
Speaker 4: of shows just don't do that. And that's what I
Speaker 4: really like about yourself. So it's not to put other
Speaker 4: shows down or say that they you know, they're just
Speaker 4: not as smart or or you know, anything of that nature.
Speaker 4: It's just your show is just really well put together
Speaker 4: and the way the facts are laid out, in the
Speaker 4: way the discussions are handled. So I appreciate that on
Speaker 4: a show.
Speaker 5: Well thank you. As two. As to college dropouts, we
Speaker 5: thank you very much.
Speaker 8: I'm going back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I think what's going to happen is is
Speaker 4: by the time we're through with this interview, I think
Speaker 4: the listeners out there that haven't heard your podcast will
Speaker 4: definitely want to come check check you out, because I
Speaker 4: think it's going to come across today much like the
Speaker 4: way your show does. And we're going to talk about
Speaker 4: a couple of subjects today, so it's not gonna be
Speaker 4: just a straightforward interview. We're gonna get a chance to
Speaker 4: kind of showcase what you guys do on your show.
Speaker 4: Let's do this first. I'd like to get a little
Speaker 4: background on you guys. Tell me a little bit about
Speaker 4: how how you guys know each other and how the
Speaker 4: show came to be.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, taking it.
Speaker 8: You take it, okay, okay, I can take it away.
Speaker 9: So Sam I originally met just at work, so we
Speaker 9: worked at the same retail location, and I don't quite
Speaker 9: remember how the subjects arose, but we found out that
Speaker 9: in our younger days growing up as kids, we both
Speaker 9: played a trading card game called you Gio, which was
Speaker 9: pretty big for kind of I think our generation at
Speaker 9: the time, and we joked around about eventually doing each
Speaker 9: other playing against one another.
Speaker 8: Eventually that happened at some point in time.
Speaker 9: I don't remember exactly when that came about, but that
Speaker 9: was the beginning of how we started becoming better friends
Speaker 9: and really just kind of hanging out. And then eventually
Speaker 9: Sam brings up the fact that he wants to run
Speaker 9: a podcast.
Speaker 5: Right well, and the whole podcast.
Speaker 10: Honestly, it was a joke from the start, Like I
Speaker 10: joked to myself, I joked to my wife, I joke
Speaker 10: to Jason, and then one day I was just doing it.
Speaker 10: I had bought a domain, I bought recording equipment, and
Speaker 10: so I came back to him. I had said, like
Speaker 10: the week before, hey man, I'm gonna do this this
Speaker 10: Spooky Stories podcast.
Speaker 5: You want to be be my co host? Haha? And
Speaker 5: he said yeah, sure. And then because I like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I just like to talk and have people listen to me,
Speaker 5: he is.
Speaker 10: And then I came back to him a week later,
Speaker 10: I said, hey, man, so if you change your mind
Speaker 10: now that it's a real thing, that's totally fine, But uh,
Speaker 10: do you want.
Speaker 5: To you still want to do the podcast? He said yeah?
Speaker 5: And I at first I was like what am I doing?
Speaker 5: Because I love Jason.
Speaker 10: I think he's fantastic, But like I have other friends
Speaker 10: who I've like sat down and had discussions about paranormals
Speaker 10: paranormal stuff with, and they're so passionate just like I am.
Speaker 10: And Jay and I all we talk about is magic,
Speaker 10: the gathering and sometimes dragonball z and like.
Speaker 8: Just a little bit of work, and.
Speaker 5: I watched Ancient Aliens growing up as.
Speaker 8: Well, and that solidified everything that was it.
Speaker 10: But I think that that's really what gave us a
Speaker 10: good dynamic is the fact that he, like, he's an
Speaker 10: intelligent dude and he likes the paranormal, but he hasn't
Speaker 10: bought into it as much as I have. So like,
Speaker 10: in that respect, I'm the like true believer, true believer
Speaker 10: who every episode is trying to prove that these things happened,
Speaker 10: and he's always trying to prove that they didn't have it.
Speaker 9: I'm trying to figure out what kind of science can
Speaker 9: can lead to those observations.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 4: See, that's that's similar to what we do. I mean,
Speaker 4: when I started the podcast, it was the exact opposite
Speaker 4: of you guys. I actually went to the one friend
Speaker 4: that we talked about this stuff all the time and said, hey,
Speaker 4: this will be a good match. And then eventually when
Speaker 4: I switched to Tracy, she likes it, but she wouldn't
Speaker 4: like consumed by it like I was. I mean, I
Speaker 4: can just sit and watch this stuff, you know, hours
Speaker 4: on end, and then to her it'd be like after
Speaker 4: an hour, it's like, can we watch something else. So
Speaker 4: you know, so when we when we sit down for
Speaker 4: the for the conversation, it does turn out more like
Speaker 4: the dynamic that you have because I take the lead
Speaker 4: most of the time, and she's like in disbelief of
Speaker 4: either what I'm saying or come on now, and so
Speaker 4: I mean it's yeah, you know, she really she really
Speaker 4: actually knows the story. But yeah, she she really knows
Speaker 4: the story we're talking about. So it's like a surprise
Speaker 4: to her the whole time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can dig it.
Speaker 10: I think it's a good dynamic for anybody to have
Speaker 10: dad you know, one person on one side and the
Speaker 10: other on the other, but still be able to agree
Speaker 10: on certain points.
Speaker 8: Like we may not find that middle conclusions.
Speaker 5: But like trying to figure out different interpretations, and we
Speaker 5: usually try to do that.
Speaker 10: Every episode usually ends with me saying like, if scientifically speaking,
Speaker 10: what caused this was aliens or or you know, in
Speaker 10: our King Tight episode, curses and Jason saying, well, scientifically speaking,
Speaker 10: it was none of those.
Speaker 9: I mean, I mean I like to think that I
Speaker 9: believe a little bit by the end of the episode
Speaker 9: where it's just odd enough occurrences to where it really
Speaker 9: makes you.
Speaker 4: Think, yeah, well I like the fact that you guys
Speaker 4: are very fact based. And that's the compliment that we
Speaker 4: get a lot, is they like that we have a
Speaker 4: lot of facts and we throw a lot of specifics
Speaker 4: out there as well as thrown in opinions. And that's
Speaker 4: the one thing that I noticed about your show is
Speaker 4: you guys do the exact same thing. So for people
Speaker 4: who like our show, they're probably gonna really like your
Speaker 4: show as well.
Speaker 5: Good good, Well, I hope, so, well, we're gonna.
Speaker 4: Give it a shot. So let's do this. We got
Speaker 4: we got a couple of subjects, one of which that
Speaker 4: I really didn't want to do myself. So it worked
Speaker 4: out great that I found you guys. But I've got
Speaker 4: a listener, a great listener by the name of Michelle Rodriguez.
Speaker 4: She's donated to the show, she's bought T shirts, and
Speaker 4: she's only asked two things for us to continue our
Speaker 4: video series, which we have not, and to talk about Elchopicabra,
Speaker 4: which I just don't have the biggest fascination. It's there's
Speaker 4: certain things that I just believe are probably out there
Speaker 4: and I just don't see a big deal about them now.
Speaker 4: But I will say this, and I got this. Listening
Speaker 4: to your Guys show, I've always thinking of Elchopocabre. Every
Speaker 4: time I see that, I think about one of the
Speaker 4: shows that are on TV to where they got this
Speaker 4: mangy looking dead animal and everybody trying to figure out
Speaker 4: where it comes from. But you know, listening to your show,
Speaker 4: you actually talked about I know, Jason specifically since you
Speaker 4: kind of took the lead on that show, but you
Speaker 4: talked about specifically the origins and what the real toop
Speaker 4: of cabre was, and it was I think it was
Speaker 4: in Puerto Rico. But that's what I wanted to kind
Speaker 4: of let you touch on that a little bit. We'll
Speaker 4: make Michelle very happy ause we're gonna talk about it.
Speaker 4: But if you can talk about the.
Speaker 8: True origins, I can definitely chat about that. So yeah,
Speaker 8: I just and I think it's pretty.
Speaker 9: Strong in our episode that I don't believe that a
Speaker 9: Mangi dog is the chubcabra, and most I think the
Speaker 9: chobocabra becomes the easy scapegoat for a lot of that
Speaker 9: kind of weird animal or weird mutilations that happened to animals.
Speaker 9: But what I like to focus on and what I
Speaker 9: thought was probably the most interesting idea behind the Chubacabra
Speaker 9: was essentially the events that took place for three years
Speaker 9: in nineteen ninety five in Puerto Rico and then also
Speaker 9: extended into Chile and South America just in general, where
Speaker 9: we have these mass mutilations of cattle, especially sheep. Sheep
Speaker 9: was the big one, which is eventually how Chubacabo got
Speaker 9: his name goat sucker. But the weirdest thing about it
Speaker 9: is that you have a lot of dead animals, a
Speaker 9: lot of dead bodies, weird bite marks on them, a
Speaker 9: lot of them being two to three holes near necks
Speaker 9: or chest areas, which is consistent with draining blood. That's
Speaker 9: where you really want to go for But the weirdest
Speaker 9: thing was, yes, they were all drained as well, and
Speaker 9: otherwise the bodies were left for the most part untouched.
Speaker 9: And those odd mutilations just kept occurring in Puerto Rico
Speaker 9: to the point where it was a daily occurrence. It
Speaker 9: wasn't news anymore to hear of x number of creatures
Speaker 9: being mutilated. And then we have some really interesting sightings
Speaker 9: of it, and they go completely contradictory to the sightings
Speaker 9: that we have in essentially like Texas, Yeah, the southern
Speaker 9: US and in Mexico, where it's an upright creature standing
Speaker 9: usually somewhere between three to four feet tall, mostly furless,
Speaker 9: but can have spikes along its back and maybe small
Speaker 9: patches of fur, with large eyes and hind legs similar
Speaker 9: to that of kangaroos. That's a kind of a really
Speaker 9: odd sounding creature, while what we hear in the southern
Speaker 9: US and a Mexican ago is essentially a mangy canine.
Speaker 8: I mean, that's really what it comes down to.
Speaker 9: Something that has lost as altspur and is still sitting
Speaker 9: on four legs, but all around it's a coyote. It's
Speaker 9: a coyote for sure, or some other hybrid of a canine.
Speaker 9: But the other description was also seen in other locations
Speaker 9: in South America. Another large population, for one, was down
Speaker 9: in Chile, and these creatures were also becoming a little
Speaker 9: bit more comfortable around humans where they weren't just doing
Speaker 9: the mutilations kind of near the forest areas. They've actually
Speaker 9: come back into towns, and there was one mulation of
Speaker 9: a actual school lama that was drained of blood as well. Eventually,
Speaker 9: these signings just kind of ended around three years later.
Speaker 9: With some hypothenis hypotheses being that it was a US
Speaker 9: government that eventually got caught or that it was eventually killed.
Speaker 9: And there have been reports of people saying that they
Speaker 9: have the skeleton the chupacabra, but those skeletons mysteriously going
Speaker 9: somewhere vanishing, yeah, being covered up in some way or another,
Speaker 9: or you know, they don't really have the proof to
Speaker 9: show that that was the actual creature. I personally love
Speaker 9: the story of the Cubacabra because I am I'm twenty three,
Speaker 9: I was born in ninety three, and the Tupicabra was
Speaker 9: one of the first kind of scary.
Speaker 8: Animal stories I had ever heard, and that was kind
Speaker 8: of what led me to my fascination.
Speaker 9: Now, I'm sure down south, the tub Oficabra is a
Speaker 9: much more annoying of an idea or of a creature.
Speaker 9: And then one other thing that I do really like
Speaker 9: about the cubicamera is more of the signs behind it.
Speaker 9: Because we do have animals that do feet on blood.
Speaker 9: Vampire bats are a big one, but leeches. We also
Speaker 9: have ticks as well. One of the biggest things that
Speaker 9: I've noticed is that these animals have to gorge on blood,
Speaker 9: which does coincide with the amount of animal mutilations that
Speaker 9: we saw in Puerto Rico, which I thought was a
Speaker 9: really interesting fact. But also what was kind of interesting
Speaker 9: vampire bats is that they actually pee out most of
Speaker 9: the blood. They process it so quick through their kidneys
Speaker 9: that they pee out at least half of the blood consumed,
Speaker 9: so that they can actually fly away and they'll digest
Speaker 9: the rest of it throughout the night. That's one thing
Speaker 9: that I never saw reports on was any kind of
Speaker 9: excrement at all being at the mutilation sites. So there
Speaker 9: are definitely weird things that happen, and some things that
Speaker 9: definitely say, hey, maybe this is a creature that we
Speaker 9: don't quite know enough about yet or at all, and.
Speaker 8: Things that are also weighed into maybe it wasn't a creature,
Speaker 8: maybe it was something else.
Speaker 9: I totally believe that I could possibly be, you know,
Speaker 9: a group of people that wanted to pull some weird
Speaker 9: prank or do something that was going to pull media headlines.
Speaker 9: That's also possibility to do you have any specific questions
Speaker 9: about the chibocabra or what I thought was interesting about it.
Speaker 4: No, what what I got out of that whole thing.
Speaker 4: As you said, it fed on a lot of sheep,
Speaker 4: which is how it got its name goat sucker.
Speaker 8: Correct.
Speaker 4: I just it threw me off when you said sheep
Speaker 4: and goat sucker, So I mean down south here we
Speaker 4: don't have. Sheep and goat are two different things, so
Speaker 4: it threw me.
Speaker 5: Yes, they are, but it was reports of sheep, so
Speaker 5: I don't know it was that. There were goats as well.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was small cattle, small livestock, all the same.
Speaker 5: And we do know that goats and sheep are not cattle.
Speaker 9: We do know that well, I mean, yeah, but small livestock.
Speaker 9: There we go, there we go, smaller livestock.
Speaker 4: You guys, we haven't touched on this show. You guys
Speaker 4: are from are living in Iowa right now? Correct? Idaho? Idaho?
Speaker 8: I don't we do is far potatoes. That's all we
Speaker 8: do up here. We don't know farman.
Speaker 5: I farmed about nine hundred pounds of potatoes today. It
Speaker 5: was a banner day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't don't knock. Don't knock potatoes. That's uh. You
Speaker 4: guys should be proud of yourself. I can't think of
Speaker 4: anything else that comes out of Idaho.
Speaker 5: But most people can't that's okay.
Speaker 10: We had one good band built the spill, but even then,
Speaker 10: I don't Yeah, that's the thoughts that I don't know.
Speaker 5: Apparently we have a lot of gems.
Speaker 8: We are the gym State, We are the gyms there.
Speaker 8: We go take that as you will. Apparently we have
Speaker 8: crystals and whatnot in rock.
Speaker 4: If that's something to hang your hat on. What about
Speaker 4: We're gonna tie this in too, because you guys did
Speaker 4: a show on on High Brazil and for the listeners
Speaker 4: who we really didn't touch on this a whole lot.
Speaker 4: That's why I kind of wanted, uh Sam, for you
Speaker 4: to touch on this a little bit. We did the
Speaker 4: story on on Rendallsom Forest, and we did mention that
Speaker 4: Peniston was writing down all these ones and zeros in
Speaker 4: his book which was all binary code, and here recently,
Speaker 4: within the last I guess two three years, he's turned
Speaker 4: that book over. There's been some people actually find out
Speaker 4: that those are actually destinations on a map on the globe.
Speaker 4: And most of them were just just in general cities
Speaker 4: and no big deal. But one of those was actually
Speaker 4: High Brazil, which was more well, I'm not going to
Speaker 4: get in to explain it, but you can explain what
Speaker 4: high Brazil is and how that really ties into that story.
Speaker 5: Yeah so, and that was always the binary download to.
Speaker 10: Sergeant Jim Benison was always one of the most fascinating
Speaker 10: parts of Rendilstom for us for me, And yeah, it
Speaker 10: was just recently. I can't even remember that. I can't
Speaker 10: remember the exact dates of when that happened, but it was,
Speaker 10: you know, was it the eighties, I think seventies wall
Speaker 10: it was the.
Speaker 4: Well when the original it happened in the early eighties. Actually,
Speaker 4: I think it was nineteen eighty, but he just released
Speaker 4: them like in the last couple of years.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, so he Actually, the way I heard it
Speaker 10: is that he partnered up with our good friends Ancient
Speaker 10: Aliens and they produced a show. And in the production
Speaker 10: of the show, that's when he was like, I also
Speaker 10: have this book. I don't really know what it means,
Speaker 10: but you know, maybe you can make something out of it.
Speaker 10: And that's exactly what they did. They decoded it and
Speaker 10: it did. It has like how many it has seven
Speaker 10: different coordinates longitude and latitude, and yeah, some of them
Speaker 10: aren't of any consequence. Some of them are like stereotypical
Speaker 10: ancient alien sites, like the Great Pyramids or the Nasca Lines.
Speaker 10: But the interesting thing about it is that it states
Speaker 10: that this exploration of humanity began in a place called
Speaker 10: High Brazil and hy Brazil is a mythical island off
Speaker 10: the west coast of Ireland in what's known as the
Speaker 10: Celtic Sea. As far as we can tell, it makes
Speaker 10: its appearance in history at least in the seventh century eighty.
Speaker 10: That's the first time it was written down and part
Speaker 10: of a book, But of course the things they were
Speaker 10: writing down then were oral tradition that had been going
Speaker 10: on for hundreds of years previous. Essentially, what it is
Speaker 10: is a mythical island that has it's bisected by a
Speaker 10: channel of water, and it's something that appears every seven
Speaker 10: years for just a day sometimes you can see it.
Speaker 10: Sometimes like a handful of people maybe seven or eight
Speaker 10: claim to have actually made it there and set foot
Speaker 10: on it. But after that day it becomes enveloped and
Speaker 10: missed and disappears for another seven years, and a lot
Speaker 10: of the stories about it are very mythologically based. You
Speaker 10: have different accounts of like old Irish saints who supposedly,
Speaker 10: in like the seven hundreds, went for a voyage and
Speaker 10: they found this island and on it there was like
Speaker 10: gold or silver, or they would meet with different religious
Speaker 10: apparitions there, And I mean, that's all well and good,
Speaker 10: but it's not super scientific.
Speaker 5: It's not super like factually based.
Speaker 10: So what we really focused on in the High Brazil
Speaker 10: episode was some of the most contemporary contemporary accounts. And
Speaker 10: one of the most interesting aspects of hy Brazil for
Speaker 10: me is that it actually appeared on maps when they
Speaker 10: were making naval maps. Even the maps of the British
Speaker 10: Navy had High Brazil on it from thirteen twenty five
Speaker 10: up until the eighteen hundreds, and it was so well seen,
Speaker 10: not well traveled. Like I said, not a lot of
Speaker 10: people got there, but it was so well documented as
Speaker 10: existing that it stayed on the maps for five hundred years.
Speaker 10: When they finally did pull it off, it took a
Speaker 10: lot of time and a lot of debate because people
Speaker 10: were saying, like, you can't take hy Brazil off the map.
Speaker 5: I saw High Brazil two years ago, like my mom
Speaker 5: saw High Brazil. Everybody, it's there. Finally they did remove it.
Speaker 10: But some of the most intriguing sightings for me, there's
Speaker 10: this one story from about in the Era of Discovery,
Speaker 10: which is when the Europeans were really going out, they
Speaker 10: were getting on their ships, they were trying to sail
Speaker 10: to the New World, you know, Columbus Cortes and the
Speaker 10: Spanish down in South America and Central America. And during
Speaker 10: this era there was one man whose name was Giovanni Cabuto,
Speaker 10: and he wanted to be the man who once and
Speaker 10: for all like discovered High Brazil and plotted the path there.
Speaker 10: And so every year when he was out exploring for
Speaker 10: King Henry the seventh, he would make a little detour
Speaker 10: and he tried to it every single year, and there
Speaker 10: had been a few voyages in the year's previous that
Speaker 10: it went to find it but didn't find anything. And
Speaker 10: then suddenly one year he just doesn't make that diversion.
Speaker 5: He just keeps going.
Speaker 10: He actually discovers Newfoundland off the coast of Canada, and
Speaker 10: it seems at first glance that he's abandoned the search
Speaker 10: for High Brazil, but in reality he actually sends a
Speaker 10: letter back that's intercepted by a Spanish diplomat and Spanish
Speaker 10: spy basically, and in the letter, Kabudo says, like I
Speaker 10: found it, we found it, We took earth from it
Speaker 10: or some sort of of physical proof, and we brought
Speaker 10: it back to England for King Henry. And that's really
Speaker 10: the most well documented part of its existence.
Speaker 5: The other really intriguing.
Speaker 10: Story for me is one of oh, I can't remember
Speaker 10: what year, but it was near the end of its
Speaker 10: time on the maps.
Speaker 5: I think it was in the late seventeen to early
Speaker 5: eighteen hundreds. Oh no, here it is.
Speaker 10: It was actually after, sorry, it was after it was
Speaker 10: taken off of the maps in eighteen seventy eight. And
Speaker 10: essentially there was an entire village on the coast of
Speaker 10: Ireland just going about their business, having a great time,
Speaker 10: and suddenly High Brazil appeared just half a mile or
Speaker 10: so out at sea, and they were so close that
Speaker 10: they could see it, like they could see trees on it,
Speaker 10: they could see the river bisecting it, and they could
Speaker 10: see all sorts of different geological features, and people actually
Speaker 10: started to row out to it and try to make
Speaker 10: it to get there. And suddenly, at the same time
Speaker 10: for the people rowing there in boats as on shore,
Speaker 10: it disappeared, which is completely separate from your normal sort
Speaker 10: of a mirage where it either won't get any closer
Speaker 10: when you get closer to it, or it'll disappear as
Speaker 10: you get closer but still be seen from a distance.
Speaker 10: But for it to disappear exactly the same time for
Speaker 10: two different groups of people that far separated, that's what
Speaker 10: really made me say, like, what is going on here?
Speaker 5: What could that have possibly been?
Speaker 10: And then you also look back at like the mythological
Speaker 10: records and all of that, and even some more contemporary
Speaker 10: accounts of people actually finding it, and they say, well,
Speaker 10: I found hy Brazil and there was a magical wizard
Speaker 10: there who told me that like the island was shrouded
Speaker 10: from human eyes due to a spell. And another guy
Speaker 10: said that he went there, he got big chests of
Speaker 10: gold and he saw giant black rabbits just hopping around.
Speaker 10: So it's one of those ones for me that is
Speaker 10: just so bizarre, like it sounds like it is one
Speaker 10: hundred percent truly and realistically false, but there's just enough
Speaker 10: trace evidence to be like, Okay, what else is going on?
Speaker 10: And it was actually it wasn't seen from eighteen seventy
Speaker 10: eight until just five years ago in twenty twelve, and
Speaker 10: there was actually a pilot who is flying over the
Speaker 10: Celtic Sea and he suddenly finds himself enveloped in this
Speaker 10: this what's known as electronic fog.
Speaker 5: So that's what you know.
Speaker 10: People over the Bermuda Triangle report it, and they're all
Speaker 10: of their instruments will start freaking out, their tweaking, they
Speaker 10: can't tell where they are, and this fog envelops him
Speaker 10: and then it breaks beneath him, and he sees like
Speaker 10: what used to be just straight water for miles and miles.
Speaker 5: He sees like green land and trees and forests and all.
Speaker 10: Of that, and it's only there for like a minute,
Speaker 10: and then the fog breaks completely away from him, and
Speaker 10: sure enough he's in the middle of the ocean, or
Speaker 10: he's above the middle of the ocean. There's nothing to
Speaker 10: be seen for miles and miles. So it's just compelling
Speaker 10: enough to be like, what is actually going on here?
Speaker 10: You know, it's not just crazy people or folk tales.
Speaker 10: There's something out there, and you know, what the hell
Speaker 10: could it be?
Speaker 4: What I think is fascinating about this situation is a
Speaker 4: lot of people will compare the who Atlantis situation with this,
Speaker 4: But Atlanta's disappeared and everybody's been trying to find it
Speaker 4: ever since. Where this actually keeps appearing. People have seen it,
Speaker 4: and it appears and it disappears. That seems to be
Speaker 4: the main difference because both of them supposedly had advanced
Speaker 4: civilizations on them and all that. So there's a lot
Speaker 4: of comparisons. But this is just a little unique. And
Speaker 4: most people have heard of Atlanta's. Almost everybody's heard of Atlanta's,
Speaker 4: but most people haven't heard of this place. So that's
Speaker 4: what I found unique about it.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's pretty much exactly how we start out the
Speaker 10: episode is kind of rehashing Atlantis, but then saying, you know,
Speaker 10: there is something else. There's something else that makes more sense,
Speaker 10: that has more evidence than it.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 9: But yeah, for whatever reason, I think Alanti's probably gets
Speaker 9: so much publicity because.
Speaker 8: It was Greek. I mean we tend to, yeah, we
Speaker 8: we have a love for classic Greek.
Speaker 5: Yeah, very very Greek centric culture.
Speaker 4: I don't understand what all the confusion is. Anyway, it's
Speaker 4: right into Bahamas. I see com for it all the time.
Speaker 8: So right, it's a big killer waterslide.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 4: Guys. I want to thank you guys for coming on
Speaker 4: the show and spend a little bit of time with us.
Speaker 4: The show is not alone podcast, won't you tell the
Speaker 4: people the best way to get a hold of you
Speaker 4: guys on social media if they want to send you
Speaker 4: a message and listen to the show.
Speaker 10: Yeah, so we're on all you know, the big three
Speaker 10: social media. We're on Twitter, We're at Not Alone Pod,
Speaker 10: We're on Instagram at not Alone Podcast, and then Facebook
Speaker 10: is like Facebook dot com slash not Alone Pod. You
Speaker 10: can also email us at not Alone Podcast at gmail
Speaker 10: dot com and I will reply to you through any
Speaker 10: of those channels as soon as you do. Like I'm
Speaker 10: I'm always refreshing and checking social media and we are.
Speaker 10: I have not found a podcasting platform yet that we're
Speaker 10: not on, so like any app you're using. Of course,
Speaker 10: we're on iTunes, We're on stitch Er, We're on Overcast
Speaker 10: apparently now on iHeartRadio as well. But really anything you're
Speaker 10: looking through, we should be there, and if we're not,
Speaker 10: please let me know.
Speaker 4: I want to also ask you real quick while I'm
Speaker 4: thinking about it, who designed your logo? Is that something
Speaker 4: you guys came up with or somebody did for you?
Speaker 4: Because it's it's a pretty badass.
Speaker 5: Logo for us, isn't it amazing? No?
Speaker 10: So, my well, my wife if I can say this
Speaker 10: really quick. My wife has a blog called a Spoonful
Speaker 10: of Grace dot com. And my sister is a graphic designer.
Speaker 10: She's an amateur, but she has like an Etsy shop
Speaker 10: where she sells her work and stuff. And so she
Speaker 10: made a logo for my wife that looked amazing, and
Speaker 10: so I texted her and I'm like, hey, Tessa, could.
Speaker 5: You uh haha, could you make me a logo again?
Speaker 8: Just joking.
Speaker 5: Everything about the podcast started out as a joke, and
Speaker 5: the logo was no exception. I joke that to her.
Speaker 5: She said sure.
Speaker 10: I was like, oh dang, And then I sent her
Speaker 10: some some other podcast logos that I love and like,
Speaker 10: I shit you not. It was twenty five minutes later
Speaker 10: she replied with that image. So she just came up
Speaker 10: with it out of nowhere, and it's it's amazing.
Speaker 5: I love our logo.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did too. I think it's pretty uh it's
Speaker 4: pretty professional. Yeah, all right, guys. Once again, I want
Speaker 4: to thank you guys for coming on, and uh, you know,
Speaker 4: maybe sometime in the future we'll do some some more
Speaker 4: collaboration on some other stories because uh, you guys, like
Speaker 4: I said, you touch on some topics that not everybody
Speaker 4: touches on. Like I said, you've got one on King
Speaker 4: Tutt and you've got uh and we didn't mention this year.
Speaker 4: You guys have a Patreon page two, so if people
Speaker 4: come on and they like it, they can support the
Speaker 4: show financially and get some extra shows and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: because you guys do some breakdown, some debriefings and uh
Speaker 4: and talk about some of the previous So yeah, we do,
Speaker 4: we do, but uh, like I said, we'll talk in
Speaker 4: the future and and uh, like I said, once again,
Speaker 4: thanks for coming on. We appreciate it.
Speaker 8: Thank you, Jerry.
Speaker 10: Yeah, thanks for having us man, And I hope it
Speaker 10: Hillbilly Horror Stories continues to have amazing success.
Speaker 4: So me too. I'll never be able to quit my job.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, all right, so thanks to those guys for
Speaker 4: coming on. That was that was fun, man. Them guys
Speaker 4: are a hoot.
Speaker 7: It was fun.
Speaker 4: But you can tell from that, these guys are super intelligent.
Speaker 4: So they just take a different approach to the to
Speaker 4: the whole supernatural and stuff than what we do. So
Speaker 4: I don't know, everybody's got a different take on stuff.
Speaker 4: And that's what makes us fun is because everybody's got
Speaker 4: a different sound. And like I said, I hope you
Speaker 4: liked those guys and did that. And then like I said,
Speaker 4: with the Don't Break the Oath guys June eleventh, I'm
Speaker 4: excited about this. We're gonna have the girls on from
Speaker 4: and that's why we drink, oh boy. And I've been
Speaker 4: I've been talking back and forth to Christine on that
Speaker 4: and they're excited about it. We're excited about it, and uh,
Speaker 4: you know it's the if you guys haven't checked their
Speaker 4: show out yet, you go check on out and that's
Speaker 4: why we drink. You'll you'll love it. They're they're funny
Speaker 4: as hell, and uh, I'm excited about it. I'm that's
Speaker 4: kind of the one I'm most interested to team up with.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't wait for that. They are fun.
Speaker 4: That will be a fun show. I can guarantee you
Speaker 4: that with some curson yeah ted bit. Yeah. But anyway,
Speaker 4: thank you guys so much. Like I said, all the
Speaker 4: mothers out there, have a happy Mother's Day. Be safe
Speaker 4: af there this weekend.
Speaker 6: Happy Mother's Day, guys, and cherish your time with your mom's.
Speaker 6: Mine's not here anymore. And I would give anything to
Speaker 6: just you know, give her a big old hug and stuff.
Speaker 6: So just make sure you cherish your time with your
Speaker 6: mom's and just remember to love one another and you
Speaker 6: all have a great weekend.
Speaker 4: Yep, same here. My mom's been gone for This will
Speaker 4: be the eleventh Mother's Day. I believe it's the tenth
Speaker 4: or the eleventh, so it's it's not something you really
Speaker 4: ever get used to, especially when this Holliday comes up.
Speaker 4: So just remember the beauty of the show like this is.
Speaker 4: It's always reminds you that if your mother is not
Speaker 4: physically on this earth, she is still with you in spirit.
Speaker 4: So remember that. Thank you guys, and we love you guys,
Speaker 4: and we'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 6: Love you bye.