1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: You were listening to petlifradio dot Com. 2 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning. 3 00:00:25,839 --> 00:00:27,399 Speaker 3: I almost off I used to say good at morning 4 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,399 and good afternoon, depending on what part of the country 5 00:00:29,399 --> 00:00:31,440 you're in. If you're here in the West as I am, 6 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,119 it's a good morning, and as you are in the East, 7 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,399 it is just hitting that afternoon on this great Father's Day. 8 00:00:37,719 --> 00:00:40,200 Hopefully it's as a glorious weather where you are as 9 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:40,600 it is. 10 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: Here where I am. 11 00:00:41,399 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 3: I think the only thing that I always thought, when 12 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,840 your kids are younger and it's Father's Day, they kind 13 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,560 of give you a break, you know, especially it's on 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,679 a Sunday. You get to well, I didn't get a 15 00:00:49,759 --> 00:00:51,840 chance to sleep in because my dogs and cats, and 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,000 I have thirteen in all, I don't think they care 17 00:00:54,039 --> 00:00:57,000 about Father's Day. And so all of a sudden, my 18 00:00:57,119 --> 00:01:01,479 dogs they were stern at five thirty seven am, and 19 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,240 I tried to, you know, shut them up and get 20 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,760 them on the bed and kind of relax, and it 21 00:01:05,799 --> 00:01:09,319 didn't work. So my day started quite a while ago. Anyway, 22 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,439 I'm glad you're with us. I hope you have a 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,519 great relaxing day here on pet life Radio and listen 24 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,519 in a lot of great shows. I am your host 25 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,640 for the next half hour. My name is doctor Jeff Werber. 26 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,200 For those of you who have not heard me yet, 27 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,799 this is our I believe, my third Sunday, our new date, 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,040 our new day, I should say, and time. For about 29 00:01:27,079 --> 00:01:29,959 almost two years, we've been on Thursdays, and we just 30 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,000 moved to a Sunday morning time slot. We are at 31 00:01:33,079 --> 00:01:36,159 nine am Pacific time at noon Eastern time. We are 32 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,920 possibly the only live call in show here on pet 33 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:44,079 Life Radio, which means that take advantage of my being here. 34 00:01:44,439 --> 00:01:46,879 I have been around the block a few times. I've 35 00:01:46,879 --> 00:01:49,319 been practicing. This is my thirty actually now and during 36 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,719 my thirty first year of practice. I am a dog 37 00:01:52,719 --> 00:01:55,560 and cat fanatic. As I said, I have five dogs 38 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,200 and eight cats. You know, just by practicing for a 39 00:01:58,239 --> 00:02:00,640 long time, you get a really good feel for what 40 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,840 you're doing. I will hopefully be able to answer your questions. 41 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,560 If not, I will get answers. I have a fairly 42 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,680 large slew of veterinary specialists in almost every field you 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,439 can imagine. If I can't give you the answer right away, 44 00:02:13,719 --> 00:02:15,599 we will get you the answer. And as a matter 45 00:02:15,599 --> 00:02:18,439 of fact, just for calling in easy number eight seven 46 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,520 seven three eight five eight eight eight two, or sending 47 00:02:21,599 --> 00:02:24,479 us a quick email while we're here online live at 48 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,800 DRGEF at petlife Radio dot com, or join us right 49 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,560 now on the website at petlife Radio dot com. You 50 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,240 click on Ask the Vets with Doctor Jeff and you 51 00:02:33,319 --> 00:02:37,120 can join in on our conversation. Any of those ways 52 00:02:37,159 --> 00:02:39,240 you can get to us, and when you do, we 53 00:02:39,319 --> 00:02:42,159 will send you out a free pro Sense product thanks 54 00:02:42,199 --> 00:02:44,879 to one of our sponsors, pro Sens Pet Products, and 55 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,479 also a Kong toy. And again we thank the good 56 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,439 folks at Kong for helping us make it easier for you. 57 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: To want to give us a call in. 58 00:02:53,199 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 3: And of course our retailers, my Mass retailers and Walmart 59 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,719 and Target who carry our full line of Prosens. So anyway, 60 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,639 I got a couple of emails this week what I 61 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,599 wanted to talk to you real fast. It comes from 62 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,400 Richard in San Diego. And Richard, you know, has heard 63 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,560 the termine. His dog had a little interdigital irritation that 64 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,560 is an area in between the toes that was kind 65 00:03:13,599 --> 00:03:18,360 of oozing, and the doctor wanted to check for a foxtail. 66 00:03:18,759 --> 00:03:20,599 And I want to just make sure everybody knows that 67 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,159 a foxtail a is not alive, though the way they 68 00:03:24,159 --> 00:03:27,120 behave it kind of sometimes acts like they're alive. And 69 00:03:27,159 --> 00:03:28,919 it has nothing to do with a fox. Basically, a 70 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,199 foxtail is a plant on it's awn. And well, the 71 00:03:33,199 --> 00:03:35,240 reason why I say it seems like it's alive. It's 72 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,479 shaped almost like an arrowhead, so it's got a point 73 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,919 at one end, and then the actual on the fibers 74 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,759 of this plant on seemed to fan out like it 75 00:03:44,759 --> 00:03:47,879 looks like a fox's tail. That's the name a foxtail. 76 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,879 And the concern that was so amazing about these little 77 00:03:50,879 --> 00:03:55,039 things is is that there are little microbers on each 78 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,639 one of the leaves of this tail of this foxtail 79 00:03:57,879 --> 00:04:01,800 that are in the opposite direction. So basically these prevent 80 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,080 the foxtail from not only does it, I should say 81 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,680 it this way, not only does it not prevent them 82 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,520 from going backwards, it actually propels them forward. And I 83 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,639 do this little trick, or I'll take a foxtail and 84 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,360 I'll put it under the sleeve of my shirt on 85 00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:19,759 my arm where you can see the tip, and I'll 86 00:04:19,879 --> 00:04:22,360 wipe it away like I'm trying to brush it away, 87 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:23,360 like brush it out. 88 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:24,959 Speaker 2: Of my sleeve back into my arm. 89 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 3: And not only is it not coming out, every time 90 00:04:27,759 --> 00:04:31,759 I wipe downward, it goes upward, which is the source 91 00:04:31,759 --> 00:04:34,279 of the problem with foxtails. The more a dog, once 92 00:04:34,319 --> 00:04:37,120 it penetrates and the dog is trying to lick it out, 93 00:04:37,399 --> 00:04:41,079 all it does is go farther in. And they are 94 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,319 just a nuisance, a disaster. And if I can tell 95 00:04:44,399 --> 00:04:47,160 you where foxtails have ended up, they. 96 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:47,639 Speaker 2: Can end up. 97 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, if they go up into 98 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,319 a nose, they can actually make it through what's called 99 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,439 the cribiform plate, which is the part of the bony 100 00:04:53,439 --> 00:04:56,639 structure that actually separates the calvary the skull from the 101 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,759 nasal cavity, and it can end up inside skull. They 102 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,759 can if they're swallowed, they can migrate anywhere in the 103 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,079 intestine or even out of the intestine. If they are 104 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,120 going to an ear, they can lodge into through the tympanum, 105 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,000 which is through the ear drum, and get into the 106 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,360 middle ear canal. I mean, they are unbelievable. They have 107 00:05:17,399 --> 00:05:22,279 been found in spinal canals on post mortem exams, so. 108 00:05:22,759 --> 00:05:26,079 Speaker 2: They are really really difficult to deal with. So where 109 00:05:26,079 --> 00:05:27,600 do they like to go? You should know it. 110 00:05:27,639 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 3: You should first of all look it up online to 111 00:05:29,879 --> 00:05:32,639 see what a foxtail looks like. I'm sure once you 112 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,920 see it you'll know exactly what it is. 113 00:05:34,959 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: But they're prevalent spring and summer. 114 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: So when you are, for example, walking your dog, especially 115 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,480 if you're walking in a wooded or a brushy area, 116 00:05:44,639 --> 00:05:46,600 when you get home, you want to check the following 117 00:05:46,879 --> 00:05:50,199 places on your pet's body. Number one, between the toes 118 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,879 and the bottom of the feet, very important. Number two, 119 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,519 lift the ear. The ear is one place where you 120 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,000 will often see them, and they are if you see 121 00:05:59,079 --> 00:06:01,439 your dogs shaking his head like crazy, and yet the 122 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,920 ear doesn't look that dirty at first. Take them into 123 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,879 your veterinarian. Make sure to check for a foxtail inside 124 00:06:06,879 --> 00:06:10,800 the mouth. I have a little vial I keep in 125 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,360 my office with about forty foxtails in it. 126 00:06:14,759 --> 00:06:17,079 Speaker 2: And where did they come from? Where did I find them? 127 00:06:17,319 --> 00:06:21,959 Speaker 3: This poor dog had eaten a plant, the whole foxtail plant, 128 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,439 the weed, and I pulled out forty from embedded inside 129 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:31,040 the gums between the teeth, causing a major oral infection. 130 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,879 I found them in the tonsils and the tonsillar crypts 131 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,839 and again causing major to this poor dog came in 132 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,879 besides one of the most I mean horrendous, horrendous smelling 133 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,920 breath and the mouth, but this dog was salivating, This 134 00:06:44,959 --> 00:06:49,279 dog was in pain, This dog was so uncomfortable. So really, 135 00:06:49,319 --> 00:06:52,079 really just a tremendous, tremendous problem that we have to 136 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,680 deal with and of course requiring full anesthesia. Getting a 137 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,680 fox out of an ear is it going to require 138 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,879 full anesthesia. So it is very very important to know 139 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,040 where to look. Another place to look is lift the tail. 140 00:07:04,519 --> 00:07:07,120 For some reason, they like to get under the tail 141 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,279 in the area of the anal glands, so that's another 142 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,160 place of migration. And then another area just anywhere around 143 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,199 the body, especially under the armpits, the front legs in 144 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,839 what we call the axcellary area, and again that's what 145 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:20,639 they like to migrate. 146 00:07:20,959 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: So Richard, thanks for the email. 147 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,519 Speaker 3: Just for sending us the email, We're going to send 148 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,439 you out a pro sense pet product. We're going to 149 00:07:27,439 --> 00:07:30,160 send you out a kongtoy. Just for sending us an 150 00:07:30,199 --> 00:07:32,839 email here to doctor Jeff at petlife radio dot com. 151 00:07:32,839 --> 00:07:34,399 That's how easy it is. You want to get in 152 00:07:34,439 --> 00:07:37,160 a really really good pro sense product, whether it's a 153 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,480 shampoo or a vitamin or a glucosamine something depending on 154 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,519 your pet, a dental kit or a contoy. Just go 155 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,279 ahead and send me any kind of email to Drgeff, 156 00:07:46,319 --> 00:07:50,399 Doctor Jeff at petlifradio dot com. Now one thing. The 157 00:07:50,399 --> 00:07:54,439 other email we got comes from Molly who's listening joined 158 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,199 us here in Boston, so loves the show, and she 159 00:07:57,639 --> 00:08:00,879 wants to know why do dogs scoot? And yeah, I'm 160 00:08:00,879 --> 00:08:02,759 sure you've all seen it, because it's so charming to 161 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,519 look out, especially when it's on carpeting and they lift 162 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,759 up there kind of back legs and they rub their 163 00:08:07,759 --> 00:08:10,279 behinds against it on the floor, you know, one of 164 00:08:10,319 --> 00:08:12,000 those embarrassing things that they like to do when you 165 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,519 have company over or when you just freshly clean your 166 00:08:14,519 --> 00:08:16,879 couch and now you're wondering, oh, what kind of a 167 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,040 trail here has been left by good old bruiser. Anyway, 168 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,120 a dog scowed for a number of reasons. Probably the 169 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,560 most common is going to be anal glands. Now it's 170 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,800 a charming subject. Someone's got to talk about it, so 171 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,800 we should talk about it here on pet Life Radio 172 00:08:32,039 --> 00:08:35,720 because we're talking pets. The anal gland there are two 173 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,879 glands or sacks that if you lift up a tail 174 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,679 and look straight away at the anal area, the behind 175 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,679 the butt. They sit at a round oh four and 176 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,320 seven okay, if you're looking at a clock face, maybe 177 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:55,799 four thirty and seven thirty. So basically they are a sack. 178 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,559 It's a vestige of a scent gland. They actually serve 179 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:04,840 z zero purpose in today's domesticated pet. When you have 180 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:10,960 smelled this very metallic, very disgusting odor, dogs will emit 181 00:09:11,279 --> 00:09:15,080 the contents of this gland or these sacks when they're 182 00:09:15,159 --> 00:09:21,080 extremely fearful, when they're very aggressive, when they're extremely excited, usually. 183 00:09:20,919 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: Not excitement, it's more of a fear. 184 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 3: And the way they're supposed to empty these lands out 185 00:09:25,799 --> 00:09:28,559 is every time a dog defecates at the very end 186 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,600 of the bowel movement. You know, people don't usually look 187 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,639 at their dog while they're pooping. I don't blame you, 188 00:09:32,799 --> 00:09:36,080 but those of us that have or do will notice 189 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,120 that at the very end of the bowl movement, the 190 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:44,399 BM their anal sphincter gives a really tight squeeze Okay, 191 00:09:44,519 --> 00:09:47,639 I mean really tight at that moment. If you were 192 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:52,240 brave enough to be close enough to look closely, you 193 00:09:52,279 --> 00:09:56,879 will see the little squirts of this secretion, and the 194 00:09:56,879 --> 00:10:00,480 normal dog, normal healthy dog, will empty these lands him 195 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,120 or herself with every bowel movement and they never cause 196 00:10:03,159 --> 00:10:06,919 a problem. There are certain times, however, where they do 197 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,000 pose a problem. Number One, if they gland or the 198 00:10:10,039 --> 00:10:14,080 material within the gland starts to get a little thickened, 199 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,759 they will not be able to be released with that 200 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:24,000 tight anal sphincter motion, and therefore the contents within this 201 00:10:24,039 --> 00:10:26,559 gland starts to build up, and it builds up even 202 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:27,679 more and more. 203 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:28,399 Speaker 2: And this is. 204 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 3: Where you'll see these dogs scooting in an attempt to 205 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,320 try to empty out the contents of these glands, because 206 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,000 they start putting pressure around the anal area and are 207 00:10:38,159 --> 00:10:42,639 very uncomfortable. Now, if they are unsuccessful, the next problem 208 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,480 that happens is what we call an anal sack or 209 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,840 anal gland rupture or abscess, where the gland itself absesses, 210 00:10:49,879 --> 00:10:54,559 it gets infected because the material, the contents within has 211 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,000 not been successfully released, and that's a problem. That's where 212 00:10:58,039 --> 00:11:01,039 you might see a very large training tract and some 213 00:11:01,159 --> 00:11:04,799 bleeding and some oozing and smell and a very uncomfortable dog. 214 00:11:05,279 --> 00:11:09,320 So these require obviously require medical attention, but many people 215 00:11:09,399 --> 00:11:11,279 do that have dogs, and you should just get in 216 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,000 the habit. You can do one of a few things. 217 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,639 Number one, go to a groomer, and the groomer your 218 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,240 groomer can empty out this contents of the gland, go 219 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,759 to your veterinarian, or if you are really brave and bold. 220 00:11:21,879 --> 00:11:25,240 I have yet to meet someone who has done this 221 00:11:25,519 --> 00:11:28,360 more than once and is willing to do it a second, third, 222 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,159 fourth time, and that has learned to do it yourself. 223 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: Some people do. 224 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,039 Speaker 3: It's one of those things that even after thirty years, 225 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,360 this smell gets to me. I can remember one story, 226 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,279 and anyone who's ever done this themselves or you know 227 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,840 exactly what I'm talking about, I'm sure you could relate. 228 00:11:44,399 --> 00:11:47,519 So a client came in and I could feel you 229 00:11:47,519 --> 00:11:50,600 could feel the bulging. You could feel these glands are 230 00:11:50,639 --> 00:11:53,919 full of the material within and I'm trying to express them. 231 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,559 So I put my glove on and I cannot, for 232 00:11:56,639 --> 00:11:59,840 the life of me, express these lands. So they were 233 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,159 plugged and plugged bad. I lift the tail and I 234 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,799 got my left hand on these two glands, and I'm 235 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,440 squeezing as hard as I can. What the heck is 236 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,960 going on? Why can't I never had this problem. 237 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: So I lift the tail to take a look. 238 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 3: And at that very moment that I turned to look, 239 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,120 oh my god, did I get this in the face 240 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,639 in the hair? I mean, it was the most disgusting thing, 241 00:12:23,639 --> 00:12:25,879 and there's there's no way to really get the smell out. 242 00:12:26,039 --> 00:12:28,759 I literally had to beside washing my face everything, I 243 00:12:29,039 --> 00:12:31,279 had to go home at my lunch time and I 244 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,440 had to shower. It is really, really gross. So anyway, 245 00:12:35,519 --> 00:12:37,879 just so you know, even those things can happen to 246 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,960 someone with thirty years of experience, and oh my god, 247 00:12:41,039 --> 00:12:42,080 to this date, I will. 248 00:12:41,919 --> 00:12:44,799 Speaker 2: Never ever look to see why I can't do it. 249 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,679 I'm just gonna I'm gonna do it by brailer. I'm 250 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:47,559 gonna use a mirror. 251 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 3: Anyway, It's a time for a quick break, so we'll 252 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,320 be back in just a few minutes, So don't go away. 253 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,519 Speaker 2: You're here tuned into. 254 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 3: Doctor Jeff Werber asked the bets with doctor Jeff here 255 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:58,519 on pet Life Radio. 256 00:12:58,759 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: We'll be back. 257 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: We'll be right back right after these messages. 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Pet Life Radio and iHeartRadio Positively Possum, 302 00:15:44,159 --> 00:15:48,080 Let's Talk Past, Let's Done, Pets Radio, HETLFE. 303 00:15:47,759 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: Radio, petlight Radio dot. 304 00:15:50,399 --> 00:16:11,679 Speaker 3: Com and welcome back to Ask the Vets with doctor 305 00:16:11,759 --> 00:16:14,200 Jeff here on pet Life Radio. I am doctor Jeff Werber, 306 00:16:14,399 --> 00:16:17,600 and Happy Father's Day once again to all you dads 307 00:16:17,679 --> 00:16:18,000 out there. 308 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:19,879 Speaker 2: Hope you got a little bit more of a break 309 00:16:19,919 --> 00:16:20,759 than I did this morning. 310 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,879 Speaker 3: I hope your pets were honoring you on this great 311 00:16:24,159 --> 00:16:27,120 relaxing Sunday. There was a topic that we discussed on 312 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,799 show back we were doing on Thursdays about seven months ago. 313 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,039 And I don't like to reheat myself, but I really 314 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,879 do when it comes to things that are important, and 315 00:16:34,919 --> 00:16:37,519 I'm hoping that we have an audience. My Sunday audience 316 00:16:37,559 --> 00:16:39,240 is a little different, So I'm going to take a 317 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,720 stab here and We're going to discuss a very very 318 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:44,759 important topic that still to this day, it amazes me 319 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,679 how few pet parents pet owners are really aware of 320 00:16:50,039 --> 00:16:52,519 some of the changes that we made in this particular arena. 321 00:16:52,759 --> 00:16:56,200 And the arena I'm talking about is the vaccine arena. 322 00:16:56,639 --> 00:17:01,039 We as a profession have been over vaccinating period. We 323 00:17:01,399 --> 00:17:06,160 are making changes. I would say most veterinarians out there 324 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:12,039 have joined on and are making different recommendations. Certainly, certainly 325 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:17,559 the key animal groups and organizations have and are making 326 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,400 changes in the recommendations include the Cat Fanciers and TIKA 327 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,680 and the Feline Practitioners Association dog World, as well as 328 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,640 the American Animal Hospital Association, the American Veterinan Medical Association. 329 00:17:31,079 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 2: I would say most. 330 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 3: Entities out there are now jumping on this bandwagon, on 331 00:17:37,039 --> 00:17:40,720 board that we do not need in many cases, I 332 00:17:40,759 --> 00:17:45,440 would say most cases to vaccinate every year. Nor should 333 00:17:45,519 --> 00:17:49,400 we be giving every vaccine known to man. So there 334 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,039 are some entities out there. I don't want to get 335 00:17:51,039 --> 00:17:53,480 into the politics. I don't think it's the here is 336 00:17:53,519 --> 00:17:55,559 the right point, but I will say to you if 337 00:17:55,599 --> 00:17:59,279 you are going to a hospital, especially a hospital it's 338 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,519 a group of hospitals that and are still recommending that 339 00:18:02,559 --> 00:18:04,519 you're going in every six months to a year for 340 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,480 any vaccine, there's only one that we're going to get 341 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,839 to in a minute that would be justifiable. I will 342 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,799 tell you that you are probably going to the wrong 343 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,240 veteran of hospital. That's how bold I can be and 344 00:18:13,319 --> 00:18:15,319 will be because this is my show and these are 345 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,480 my views, not Pet Life Radios. This is good old 346 00:18:17,519 --> 00:18:20,200 doctor Jeff So and I think actually it's the only 347 00:18:20,319 --> 00:18:23,920 entity out there still that is recommending vaccines every year. 348 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 2: So how did this all come about? 349 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 3: Well, when we think of us, and it's Father's Day, 350 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,720 so let's think about kids. When do our kids get vaccines? 351 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,519 They go through a series as babies. Many people are 352 00:18:34,559 --> 00:18:36,519 actually not liking to give vaccines at all anymore and 353 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,920 just counting on mother's immunity. But once that series is 354 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,839 completed and they've gotten their visas and their momps and 355 00:18:41,839 --> 00:18:43,480 their German visas and all these good stuff, and the 356 00:18:43,519 --> 00:18:46,480 diphtheria and all the vaccines they're getting, unless they're going 357 00:18:46,519 --> 00:18:48,680 to a third world country, and this is key, where 358 00:18:48,759 --> 00:18:51,920 there are other diseases that we don't have here in 359 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:57,359 the US or in Canada, then we don't need vaccines ever. Again, Now, 360 00:18:57,519 --> 00:18:59,839 when I took a trip to work in the jungles 361 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,559 on the Amazon in Peru, yes I needed to go 362 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,119 get more vaccinations, but had I not gone, I would 363 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:07,960 not have needed. I would not have needed. And here's 364 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,519 a perfect one. How many of you are taking medication 365 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,079 against malaria. We have mosquitos, but we don't have malaria, 366 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:19,039 so therefore it would be crazy, crazy to take medication 367 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,319 to fight off malaria or the hepatitis is if we're 368 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,599 not going to an area that these diseases are endemic. 369 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,000 So I ask you, then, why would you give a 370 00:19:29,079 --> 00:19:32,839 dog who lives in the city a lime disease vaccine 371 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,720 in the West where we don't have endemic lime disease, 372 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,920 or say a rattlesnake vaccine, And you say to yourself, 373 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,480 that's insane. Of course you're not going to do it, 374 00:19:40,519 --> 00:19:43,400 because there's no way. Why give an indoor cat, an 375 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,880 indoor only cat, a leukemia virus vaccine. Leukemia virus comes 376 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:53,240 from prolonged direct contact with the leukemia positive carrier. How 377 00:19:53,319 --> 00:19:58,119 many indoor cats are going to have prolonged direct contact 378 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,039 with positive carrier. So what we have done, what the 379 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,319 industry has done, is actually looked at what we call 380 00:20:05,799 --> 00:20:10,680 vaccines are the core vaccines. Core vaccines are vaccines against 381 00:20:11,039 --> 00:20:14,839 diseases that are common slash endemic in the area in 382 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,759 which you live, meaning if you move, that core might change. 383 00:20:18,079 --> 00:20:21,599 So I'm going to use just as an example, Southern California. 384 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,119 Obviously I know it best, and what we deal with 385 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,079 on a regular basis, well, we fail vaccinate dogs us 386 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,160 in combinations parvo, and we vaccinate with bordetella. 387 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 2: Now that was the number. 388 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,039 Speaker 3: I mentioned about one example an exception to the once 389 00:20:34,039 --> 00:20:37,680 a year, and that is the bordetella. Bordetella is a 390 00:20:37,759 --> 00:20:42,000 lifestyle vaccine. Bordertella should be given once a year unless 391 00:20:42,079 --> 00:20:46,000 you have a dog that frequents doggy daycare, that frequens 392 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,599 boarding facilities, or goes to the groomer once a week. 393 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,960 These dogs, in fact, most of those establishments require every 394 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,160 six months, and rightly so it's not a great vaccine. 395 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,240 It doesn't give us that long, long term. 396 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,519 Speaker 2: Protection that we really do need. 397 00:20:59,039 --> 00:21:01,559 Speaker 3: So if you're going to do the border tell vaccine, 398 00:21:01,839 --> 00:21:03,440 then which is the I hate to use the word 399 00:21:03,519 --> 00:21:05,759 kennel cough because when it's endemic, and like it here 400 00:21:05,799 --> 00:21:07,720 in La, it's you know, take your dog for a 401 00:21:07,799 --> 00:21:09,960 walk in Hollywood cough. It's go to the vet cough, 402 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,599 go to the gloomer cough, go to the park cough. 403 00:21:11,799 --> 00:21:14,680 It's everywhere. So the dog should be treated at least 404 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,319 once a year. But if you frequent the potential for exposure, 405 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,079 then you want to do it twice a year, every 406 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,440 six months. But things like rabies, after the first year, 407 00:21:23,519 --> 00:21:25,839 it's usually it's given first time as a four to 408 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,119 six month old pup, you booster it a year later. 409 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,160 After that it's good for three cats here. Now this 410 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,400 is different because some states have different regulations for rabies. 411 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,839 You have to follow your state laws. Some still require 412 00:21:37,839 --> 00:21:39,799 it once a year, though I think that is changing. 413 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,000 Some require it for cats. 414 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:43,559 Speaker 2: We don't for a cat. 415 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,839 Speaker 3: Now, since I have eight cats, I have eight indoor 416 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,640 only cats because I don't want to take the risk 417 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,880 of cars, dogs, coyotes, and leukemia virus or feline aids 418 00:21:54,079 --> 00:21:57,160 killing my eight cats. So therefore I like them indoors 419 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,680 and fortuning. We have the room and they love being indoors. 420 00:22:00,079 --> 00:22:03,720 But what is the potential for indoor cats to get rabies? Now, 421 00:22:03,839 --> 00:22:06,440 unless I'm inviting raccoons or bats into my home on 422 00:22:06,519 --> 00:22:10,319 a regular basis, the possibilities, the chances are zero. Therefore, 423 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,119 I do not vaccinate my cats against leukemia or rabies 424 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,319 because here in California it's not required by law the rabies. 425 00:22:17,559 --> 00:22:19,240 If you're coming from a state where it is, then 426 00:22:19,319 --> 00:22:21,920 obviously you got to go with it. So how about lepto. 427 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,160 Oftentimes it used to be that the typical distemper vaccine 428 00:22:26,279 --> 00:22:29,640 was d A two p L for lepto and again 429 00:22:29,839 --> 00:22:32,720 Lepto is one of those diseases. It's bacterium. It's serious. 430 00:22:32,799 --> 00:22:36,359 It's usually coming from the feces or the urine of 431 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,680 animals that are shedding the lepto bacterium. And you see 432 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,039 it in the mountains, you see it on trails, you 433 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,920 see it in wooded areas. You could see it in 434 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,440 streams where these animals, these wild animals are harboring and 435 00:22:47,759 --> 00:22:50,960 shedding the bacterium. And these are animals our dogs are 436 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,200 stay drinking that stream water or eating the feces or 437 00:22:53,279 --> 00:22:55,519 doing something. You know it's usually going to come from urine. 438 00:22:55,759 --> 00:22:59,400 So therefore it is something that if you have a 439 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,839 lifestyle with your pet that takes advantage, that goes into 440 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,160 these hikes and you do things like that, you're outdoors 441 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,200 e then absolutely get the vaccine. But if you have 442 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,880 a city dog who goes for walks locally and never 443 00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:14,720 really encounters those environments, then you don't necessarily need to 444 00:23:14,759 --> 00:23:17,680 give it on a routine basis for really a lime 445 00:23:17,759 --> 00:23:21,640 disease likewise in certain areas where in many areas where 446 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,599 it's not endemic, you don't need to give that vaccine. 447 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,039 Same thing with rattlesteak vaccines. The FIP vaccine for a 448 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,319 cat is really not a great vaccine, and you wonder 449 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,799 if it's worth it at all, And maybe unless you 450 00:23:33,839 --> 00:23:36,680 are in a cattery situation, I wouldn't waste my time 451 00:23:36,759 --> 00:23:40,559 with that one either. Same goes for coronavirus vaccine. Corona 452 00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:43,640 is a disease that's kind of like a twenty four 453 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,319 hour stomach flu. Do you really want to waste another 454 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,960 taxation on the immune system to give another vaccine to 455 00:23:50,039 --> 00:23:52,640 protect against something you know? Sometimes you gotta wonder is 456 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,160 the risk of just a vaccine reaction greater than the 457 00:23:56,279 --> 00:23:58,079 risk of actually getting the bug? In if you get 458 00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,960 the bug, how bad is it? So these are things 459 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,000 you need to start to evaluate and understand. Another thing 460 00:24:03,319 --> 00:24:05,599 I have been doing what's called a tighter test. A 461 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,319 tighter is a blood test, a measure existing antibody, and 462 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,039 I do this for distemper and parvon and I have 463 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,599 done for years. If I tell you that, I have 464 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,599 had many, many, many dogs that are now eight to 465 00:24:15,839 --> 00:24:20,599 nine years out without even needing a vaccine. So that's 466 00:24:20,599 --> 00:24:23,119 another option you have is talk to veteran at about 467 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:23,759 tighter testing. 468 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:24,839 Speaker 2: That might be a way to go. 469 00:24:25,079 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 3: But if you're going to give the vaccines, start a 470 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,039 three year vaccine schedule. No need to over vaccinate. I 471 00:24:31,079 --> 00:24:33,440 don't think it's worth whatever risk there may be to 472 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,240 a vaccine reaction, especially in cats that can get very 473 00:24:36,319 --> 00:24:41,319 serious vaccine reactions. So sometimes, and with vaccines a great example, 474 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,240 less is more. Anyway, thanks for joining me here and 475 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,279 ask the best with doctor Jeff here in pet Life Radio. 476 00:24:46,319 --> 00:24:48,400 For your dad's out there, have a great Father's Day. 477 00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:50,559 I'm going to enjoy mine, and this is my first time. 478 00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:53,720 I'm actually Father's Day and Grandfather's Day as my daughter 479 00:24:54,039 --> 00:24:57,400 had a baby a few months ago. So anyway, have 480 00:24:57,519 --> 00:24:59,079 a great week, have a great day, and we'll see 481 00:24:59,160 --> 00:24:59,759 you here next time. 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