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Speaker 4: So here we are on the twenty third day of
Speaker 4: January twenty twenty six, allegedly according to that thing we
Speaker 4: call a calendar, and damn, it's getting harder and harder
Speaker 4: to say the date. Anyway. This is the live Friday
Speaker 4: Night Show. I did delay it a touch, but that's
Speaker 4: only because I was giving you guys a little sample
Speaker 4: of Christy Affrodite's music on a previous stream, which I'm
Speaker 4: now cut separate from. I'm not going to release as
Speaker 4: a podcast, but I will put it in replay on
Speaker 4: the twenty four to seven radio station on Ocelli dot
Speaker 4: com Radio, which is a twenty four to seven little
Speaker 4: online radio station. And you know what, maybe I need
Speaker 4: to eliminate that this year because I'm not seeing as
Speaker 4: much play as we used to get from people. People
Speaker 4: are not streaming like they did. You know, a couple
Speaker 4: of days ago. I went onto the stream. I see
Speaker 4: twelve people sitting there. I see two people sitting there.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I should even pay for this
Speaker 4: thing anymore? Is it just time to do video like
Speaker 4: every other douchebag out there, because that's the mood I'm in. Anyways,
Speaker 4: by all means, call in, but I'm in a bad mood.
Speaker 4: In case you missed the earlier sub podcast, be Peters
Speaker 4: with me. Maybe he'll cheer me up or maybe he'll
Speaker 4: soften my mood. But if you're a regular listener of
Speaker 4: this show, you're not betting on that. Okay. I hope
Speaker 4: I don't get into a fight with him tonight because
Speaker 4: it won't be his fault. I'm gonna say that in advance.
Speaker 4: I am pissed off. I am I am fed up
Speaker 4: beyond belief, and I'm I'm half a cripple over here.
Speaker 4: So you know, if somebody really wants to come shoot me,
Speaker 4: come do it now. Put me out of my misery.
Speaker 4: Just fine, no problem. That's where I'm at. Three one nine,
Speaker 4: five to seven five zero one six. That's the number
Speaker 4: to call in. Please do, and you know, let's see
Speaker 4: what happens. But b Pete, before we get to the callers.
Speaker 4: We already got one caller. Before we get to that line, though,
Speaker 4: I just want to check in with you and give
Speaker 4: you a chance to say something and hopefully your connection
Speaker 4: stays with us because we're having troubles with communication. I
Speaker 4: had troubles with Larry the other night. The only podcast
Speaker 4: I attempted to do this week to try and you know,
Speaker 4: explain the foreign policy that's happening and the transactions that
Speaker 4: are occurring in three major spots on the globe that
Speaker 4: seem to make no sense to anybody else. Of course,
Speaker 4: if you listen to that podcast, you'll know that we
Speaker 4: made sense of it. But then again, Larry Hancock does
Speaker 4: what advises. Everybody who goes to Congress to testify doesn't
Speaker 4: usually show up himself. You know, Stu Wexler testified yesterday
Speaker 4: or yeah it was, yeah yesterday. Stu Wexler testified yesterday.
Speaker 4: You know, I know Stu B. Pete, and you know
Speaker 4: that you should know Stu somewhat from the show because
Speaker 4: he was a co author of Larry's and has done
Speaker 4: extensive work on many, many murder cases in American history.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: And he testified to the Oversight Committee. And then I
Speaker 4: watched this disgrace today. And by the way, it's not
Speaker 4: disgraceful just because Gymnasium Jordan is the freaking head of
Speaker 4: the committee. I mean he's a jackass. But find me
Speaker 4: somebody on that committee who isn't a jackass, please, Because
Speaker 4: both sides trying to score political points and not caring
Speaker 4: about what the actual thing is about is all you
Speaker 4: get anymore. So rage bait, enjoy it, just fine, have fun.
Speaker 4: If it's all about Trump, you know what, Let me
Speaker 4: out of this. I don't want to talk about politics anymore.
Speaker 4: I've had it. But anyway, BP, before we get to
Speaker 4: the callers, three one nine, five two seven five zero
Speaker 4: one six, what's on your mind?
Speaker 3: Not a lot.
Speaker 5: I'm halfway between trying to have a chest cold and
Speaker 5: not having one, so all the stuff training out of
Speaker 5: my snass.
Speaker 6: Are driving me nuts. And I got a cough now.
Speaker 5: But other than that, I'm sitting here waiting for the
Speaker 5: great ice storm of twenty six to start.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah today, Oh yeah, that's coming. That's coming out.
Speaker 4: That's coming, isn't it.
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, it's coming. Hey what do you do about it?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I haven't frozen to death this week, but you know,
Speaker 4: there's always next week, you know, And look, if that happens,
Speaker 4: it ain't a conspiracy. It's just it sucks.
Speaker 5: And yesterday it was absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 6: It was in this about sixty five degrees.
Speaker 5: I got a lot of crap done outside, and within
Speaker 5: twenty four hours we're going to have about a quarter
Speaker 5: inch of ice over everything for the next two days
Speaker 5: be in the twenties.
Speaker 6: So go figure.
Speaker 4: Okay, So we now have b. Pete's weather report, we
Speaker 4: have my mood gauge. And now let's begin with callers,
Speaker 4: because I think I see Danny from California and I'm
Speaker 4: wondering what he has to do say because you know what,
Speaker 4: the jack assery that I was watching earlier today with
Speaker 4: this Jack Smith hearing featured like four representatives from California
Speaker 4: right for the general woman from California, the general men
Speaker 4: from California. Like that was the opening barrage of Asinine,
Speaker 4: along with Raskin okay and Jordan turning around and not
Speaker 4: wanting to follow rules and who gives a crap and
Speaker 4: it's hilarious. He literally had to run back to his
Speaker 4: The two guys start arguing over can can the chairman
Speaker 4: please instruct the representative to you know, like let the
Speaker 4: guy answer a question, because that's what you've always done
Speaker 4: during these hearings. And Jordan's not even at his post.
Speaker 4: He had to run back to his microe. I mean
Speaker 4: just a joke. All of this is a joke at
Speaker 4: this point. And you know, anyway, let's hear what Danny's
Speaker 4: got to say. Maybe he's got something else on his mind. Anyway,
Speaker 4: So Danny, how you doing.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm doing fine. I saw some video clips of
Speaker 1: Philip jack Smith here and I didn't I didn't see
Speaker 1: that with Jim Jordan running off. I'm getting a feedback
Speaker 1: from you just to let.
Speaker 4: You know I'm sorry about that. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 4: what's going on. Look, there's a communication issue and we
Speaker 4: need to straighten it out. The thing that hooks me
Speaker 4: and be peat up and lets him hear you, guys
Speaker 4: and everything. We got to come up with a way
Speaker 4: to fix that. But somehow, if you are kind of loud,
Speaker 4: it bounces back to you. I don't mean for that
Speaker 4: to happen. And if and if I mute myself, then
Speaker 4: b Pete won't hear you, which is a weird thing
Speaker 4: that I don't understand in the loop either. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I think, sorry about it. See if you can proceed
Speaker 4: like pull your ear away from the O or something.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure it's actually stopped it seems like it happens
Speaker 1: in the beginning. Maybe you're making an adjustment or just
Speaker 1: I don't know. I try so this ice storm I
Speaker 1: looked at up since I've heard I want to talk
Speaker 1: about politics or current current events because it's kind of
Speaker 1: been a crazy couple of days. But this ice storm,
Speaker 1: I'm seeing it's coming all the way looks like it's
Speaker 1: into New Mexico, all the way up to the Ta Main.
Speaker 1: I mean, it looks like are you are you going
Speaker 1: to be affected by it? Yeah?
Speaker 4: See, that's that's the thing. Me and b Peter are
Speaker 4: both like supposed to get smashed sort of by this
Speaker 4: thing as it swings down into the south where it
Speaker 4: normally wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Go right, but it's got coming.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I lived out here in California in my life. I
Speaker 1: don't even know what an ice storm is. I've never
Speaker 1: experienced I've experienced snow, and I experienced rain. And the
Speaker 1: ice storm. What how's that different than a regular storm.
Speaker 4: Well, there's a couple of things that happened, and you
Speaker 4: know one of them is you didn't mention Hale.
Speaker 1: I have I have experienced Tale. I have experienced Tale
Speaker 1: and I and I experienced Tale I was in Colorado
Speaker 1: and I guess there was a hell warning and I
Speaker 1: drove out there and my guest Stayless says, get your
Speaker 1: car in the garage, now to go. Okay, I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. I guess it was talking about some serious
Speaker 1: hill that was gonna be some serious damage for the car. Possibly.
Speaker 6: Well, I have experienced.
Speaker 1: Tale, but not not not to the degree some places have. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I've seen you know, nickel size hail beat people
Speaker 4: down to the ground, you know before. And it's funny,
Speaker 4: believe sometimes, you know, when people talk about the scariest
Speaker 4: one they ever saw, at least in my lifetime, they
Speaker 4: always talk about stuff that's like ice balls the size
Speaker 4: of golf balls falling from the sky, which is part
Speaker 4: of what happens during an ice storm, except that during
Speaker 4: the ice storm, it's more like rain, but it's sharp
Speaker 4: and it doesn't actually cut you, but it kind of
Speaker 4: hits you hard, and then as it hits the ground,
Speaker 4: because of the ground temperature, you usually wind up with
Speaker 4: sheets of ice that sort of form out of the
Speaker 4: rain like instantly, which is another portion of it. So
Speaker 4: it's sort of like a cross between hail and that
Speaker 4: phenomena I just mentioned and this is how I've experienced
Speaker 4: what they've called ice storms before. Now this doesn't bother you.
Speaker 4: If you're in the Northeastern you're already under a couple
Speaker 4: of feet of snow. Like in nineteen seventy eight, the
Speaker 4: snow was higher than most children, right, Like literally the
Speaker 4: children that were in the grade school I was in, right,
Speaker 4: you're k through eight kids. We were walking through canyons
Speaker 4: that were dug out onto sidewalks to go to school.
Speaker 4: On both sides, there were things that were, you know,
Speaker 4: about as tall as adults on each side of us, right,
Speaker 4: And then an ice storm came on top of that blizzard,
Speaker 4: and that ice storm was sort of like, well, it's
Speaker 4: kind of good that we have, you know, four feet
Speaker 4: of snow, because who needs that to hit us? It
Speaker 4: almost offered us protection, well, like especially when the wind blew,
Speaker 4: it would go sideways and you know, it would be
Speaker 4: caught on the snow banks. But when you have nothing
Speaker 4: out there to stop it, like when it happens here
Speaker 4: in the South. This is why people freak out when
Speaker 4: snow even drops in the South. I couldn't believe it
Speaker 4: when I first moved down here, Like when I first
Speaker 4: moved to North Carolina. Actually, I was in disbelief at
Speaker 4: the fact that like a quarter inch of snow dropped
Speaker 4: in Atlanta and everything on the highway stopped. I mean literally.
Speaker 4: They called it the snow apocalypse. People were abandoning their
Speaker 4: cars on the side of the road because they couldn't
Speaker 4: drive in it. They had no idea what to do,
Speaker 4: and they were just banging into the side of the
Speaker 4: road and leaving their cars. Aren't a major highways in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: Look it up. It's it's one of the weirdest. It
Speaker 4: happened in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: How thick, how thick or twenty.
Speaker 4: Fifteen one or the other. It wasn't even that thick.
Speaker 4: It was only like we got like a quarter inch
Speaker 4: of snow in most parts of like that area of
Speaker 4: the south, and then it went down to Georgia, and
Speaker 4: as soon as it came to Georgia, they might have
Speaker 4: gotten a half inch, like not even an inch of snow, right,
Speaker 4: and it just.
Speaker 1: Slot is that area flat or is that hills?
Speaker 4: Well Atlanta, Atlanta's kind of flat. Yeah, But Georgia has
Speaker 4: one of the one of the actually one of the
Speaker 4: oldest mountain ranges known to exist on the Earth is
Speaker 4: in Georgia. So there's mountains in Georgia. There's everything in Georgia,
Speaker 4: you know, like as far as topography goes, You've got
Speaker 4: you know, some valleys, you've got some mountains, you've got
Speaker 4: some sea level stuff, you've got some coastline. Okay, so
Speaker 4: Georgia has a good mix of stuff. But these people
Speaker 4: had not seen snow in so long that they could
Speaker 4: not function in it. Like they literally abandoned their cars
Speaker 4: and walked away. Yeah, it was like either twenty fourteen
Speaker 4: or twenty fifteen, and I'm sitting there in disbelief, like
Speaker 4: are you kidding me? Like, you know, we get like
Speaker 4: this in Jersey after a foot and a half, you know,
Speaker 4: where it's like, all right, screw, we're not going outside.
Speaker 4: But it's got to be big enough that you know,
Speaker 4: it's up to at least your knees, you know, before
Speaker 4: people go, Okay, listen, the snow drips are going to
Speaker 4: be rough, you know that kind of thing. And maybe
Speaker 4: maybe we shouldn't bring out the cars because they're gonna
Speaker 4: get buried if the wind blows the wrong way. So
Speaker 4: you don't. But but these people were out of it
Speaker 4: after like I said, less than an inch of snow.
Speaker 4: I couldn't believe it. And part of the thing was
Speaker 4: that that an ice storm came in along with didn't
Speaker 4: really add, you know, to to the count on the ground.
Speaker 4: But because that ice hit and turned into icy roads,
Speaker 4: these people could not drive at all. They couldn't do it.
Speaker 4: And it was wild, did it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well so anyway, yeah, I yeah, I've driven in snow
Speaker 1: quite a bit because it was all the snow driving
Speaker 1: I've been has been with an eighteen willer with the
Speaker 1: tractor trailer, you know, chaining because we have the because
Speaker 1: I we we're locate with the Sierra Nevada Mountains, which
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean the summit it's like seventy five
Speaker 1: hundred feet above elevation, so you know, when we get
Speaker 1: a good storm in there, if I have to go
Speaker 1: over the hill into Nevada, you know, we'd start chaining.
Speaker 1: Depending how well the snow will be, you know, thirty
Speaker 1: five hundred and four thousand feet elevations. Sometimes it dropped
Speaker 1: down to fifteen two thousand. I mean, I I mean
Speaker 1: I experienced ice, but generally I had chains on and
Speaker 1: if it's really bad, you just can't drive on it.
Speaker 1: I mean I've been, you know, in Nevada they had
Speaker 1: black ice and that's a whole different story. So is
Speaker 1: this like freezing rain that you're going to get, because
Speaker 1: they kind of have an understand what that is where
Speaker 1: it rains and then it freezes on the ground. Is
Speaker 1: that what you're dealing with.
Speaker 4: Well, that's part of the process. Yeah, that's part of it, right,
Speaker 4: it's a mixture of that. Go ahead and Bepede explain
Speaker 4: it a little more, because that's the best I can
Speaker 4: explain it.
Speaker 5: What we're dealing with is being right on the line
Speaker 5: where we're going to have cold temperatures on the ground.
Speaker 6: The air of loft will be warm. So it starts.
Speaker 5: Raining, it comes down and freezes on the ground, which
Speaker 5: you don't want if it comes down as sleep, No,
Speaker 5: it comes.
Speaker 6: Down as ice pellets.
Speaker 5: It already hits the ground frozen, so it's not building
Speaker 5: up on tree limbs. And that's our biggest problem here.
Speaker 5: You get a little bit of wind after you know,
Speaker 5: during freezing rain, you have this ice build up quarter
Speaker 5: of an inch on limbs, they come down, take out
Speaker 5: the power lines. You have massive power outages for a
Speaker 5: couple of days. So the mountainous area northern Georgia is
Speaker 5: really going to catch out when it comes to the ice.
Speaker 5: They're predicted up to it maybe even an inch in places.
Speaker 5: And there's pocket so that running right up the Appalachian
Speaker 5: slong the east coast, So a lot of people from
Speaker 5: say the Raleigh area inward are going to get ice
Speaker 5: and snow. We're going to get hopefully sleep and not
Speaker 5: a lot of freeze of grain.
Speaker 4: Right. And when when you got those pellets pounce, Yeah,
Speaker 4: when you got those pellets that you literally watch them
Speaker 4: bounce off of the ground. That's that's the fun part
Speaker 4: of it, you know. But those things will sting if
Speaker 4: you're out there, like you don't want to get hit
Speaker 4: by it, especially if it'll go through times where they're
Speaker 4: like telling you, okay, there's there's a bit of hail,
Speaker 4: but all of a sudden, the hail can sort of
Speaker 4: enlarge and then you end up with, you know, stuff
Speaker 4: that goes from being like like airsoft pellet size to
Speaker 4: like a quarter except you know, a spherical quarter size, okay,
Speaker 4: and you get hit with that, you notice the differ, Prince,
Speaker 4: And these are the things that start denting your cars,
Speaker 4: by the way, because they're big, you know, and if
Speaker 4: the ground temperature is just right, sometimes they'll hit the ground.
Speaker 4: They'll roll around a little, but sometimes they'll hit the
Speaker 4: ground melts and then as night falls, you got nothing
Speaker 4: but ice, you know, because the temperature drops and it's
Speaker 4: left all these pellets there.
Speaker 6: To melt it though.
Speaker 5: Yeah, go ahead, there's there's a pocket that's going to
Speaker 5: be coming up along Alabama Georgia line on up through
Speaker 5: the Carolinas, and there are pockets where you actually have
Speaker 5: a thunderstorm coming through in the middle of a snowstorm,
Speaker 5: so they call it thunder snow or thunder ice where
Speaker 5: you have actual thunder and lightning.
Speaker 6: The only other place I've seen this is over in
Speaker 6: Europe in the winter over there. So it's going to
Speaker 6: get exciting for a few people.
Speaker 4: Get right where I am in the middle of Georgia
Speaker 4: is going to be one of those places. I might
Speaker 4: be in a blackout tomorrow, you know, or the next day.
Speaker 4: I forget. Is it Saturday or Sunday where it's gonna hit,
Speaker 4: Because that's the thing that sucks, is when stuff.
Speaker 6: Likes to hit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll hit you earlier, Earlier Saturday is supposed to
Speaker 5: be late Saturday, when it starts moving in here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so tomorrow, sometime tomorrow, I could be sitting here
Speaker 4: in the dark and freezing, because that's what that's what happens.
Speaker 4: The power line suck and George, I don't know what
Speaker 4: I mean. You know, they're clearly something that we're added afterwards.
Speaker 4: Nobody thought them out very well in Georgie. Okay, so
Speaker 4: you end up with power outages. It just happens. So
Speaker 4: that could be a possibility for me. And here's the fact,
Speaker 4: I don't have the money to go to a hotel
Speaker 4: or anything, which is what I would do to keep
Speaker 4: us all safe is go to someplace that's better, you know,
Speaker 4: that has a better power grid access than I do.
Speaker 4: That's what I would do, but but I can't. And
Speaker 4: besides that, even if I could, I'd probably have to
Speaker 4: send you know, Frankie and Kim and somebody would have
Speaker 4: to help me out of the house on ice. So
Speaker 4: you know, I'm barely mobile, to be honest with you,
Speaker 4: So you know whatever, I don't know what to do
Speaker 4: at this point.
Speaker 1: But what's the low temperature going to be chuck in
Speaker 1: Georgia and what's the load going to be in North Carolina?
Speaker 4: Well, see that's the weird thing, because what he was
Speaker 4: talking about, with this warm air coming in, it's gonna
Speaker 4: ben It's gonna fluctuate in weird ways, and depending on
Speaker 4: when the water drops, it's gonna create different conditions. That's
Speaker 4: the problem. It's not all about. It's just that if
Speaker 4: I'm in the dark, though, I can't run a heater
Speaker 4: because I got no gas or anything in this house.
Speaker 4: It's everything's electric. So guess what. Okay, I'll have a
Speaker 4: blanket around me. That'll be it, you know. And it
Speaker 4: gets this past this past week, I've had it twenty
Speaker 4: five degrees in here, which is why I jacked up
Speaker 4: my electric bill and I had to go to a
Speaker 4: friend asking the house. No, it was twenty five degrees
Speaker 4: in the house without the heat on.
Speaker 1: Oh geez.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it saw.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's supposed to get down to low twenties and
Speaker 5: high teens when this thing's moving through. So when it
Speaker 5: starts out tomorrow and high it might be. We might
Speaker 5: start out at forty degrees and by the time dark
Speaker 5: hits and the storm comes through, is dropping down to
Speaker 5: the twenties high teens overnight on Sunday night in the Monday,
Speaker 5: so everything that starts to thaw out during the sunlight
Speaker 5: in the daytime, refreezes at night. So we're gonna be
Speaker 5: dealing with the ice probably too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 4: And then because of the weird like he said, this
Speaker 4: stuff that's coming across from Alabama into Georgia, if it
Speaker 4: meets in the middle here, yeah, I'm gonna have that
Speaker 4: thunder ice and all that on stuff. And just this
Speaker 4: week I left okay, I left a pot of just
Speaker 4: you know, spaghetti sauce on the stove right because I'm
Speaker 4: freezing and I'm trying to just you know, cook something.
Speaker 4: And here's the thing. I go out, I forgot about it.
Speaker 4: Oh crap. Next next morning I go out there, it's
Speaker 4: frozen solid in the pan. So I whether I threw it,
Speaker 4: whether I threw it in the fridge or not, it
Speaker 4: didn't matter, right, Yeah, So you know, what are you
Speaker 4: gonna do? So we had to put on these little
Speaker 4: heaters in our individual bedrooms just to not you know,
Speaker 4: freeze over on the overnight. And those things are ridiculous
Speaker 4: energy eaters, you know, if You've got to leave them
Speaker 4: all night long. And I mean I'm only sleeping an
Speaker 4: hour at a time. So It's not like I'm sleeping
Speaker 4: comfortably or anything. But you know, so I'm up and
Speaker 4: I'm down, and I'm practically like shivering to go to
Speaker 4: the bathroom because again, was the temperature and the rest
Speaker 4: of the house enough to freeze the sauce in the pan?
Speaker 4: So what am I supposed to do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna complain. Our motherboard
Speaker 1: went out in our high back and it's it's a
Speaker 1: newer system. It's I replaced it about five years ago.
Speaker 1: And uh so we had until we got somebody, you know,
Speaker 1: the technician come out that night. I went to my
Speaker 1: daughter's and got a little heaters, you know, I got
Speaker 1: I got a bedroom pretty toasty, you know. But I'm
Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm my problems are small.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, if you take a look at the difference, Yeah,
Speaker 4: the difference in your electric bill is probably you know,
Speaker 4: from whatever days you had to do that, It is
Speaker 4: probably rough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was only a day. It was only a day.
Speaker 1: It was only a day. And you know, but I'm
Speaker 1: talking about here, I am whining the downstairs in sixty degrees.
Speaker 1: You know, It's like I gotta be thankful that, you know,
Speaker 1: I just put it, you know, some socks on. We
Speaker 1: have a little little heat. But it was just one
Speaker 1: day we got they actually got to run and he
Speaker 1: said that it was gonna it's the motherboard was going out.
Speaker 1: He goes, it could it could last a couple of hours,
Speaker 1: it last six months, but it's gonna go out. But
Speaker 1: they came today. I took a nap and I slept through.
Speaker 1: The technician came in and put a new motherboard.
Speaker 4: So nice.
Speaker 1: So so we're good to go. I just comfort for
Speaker 1: the missus.
Speaker 4: Hey listen, I totally understand. And you know, I also
Speaker 4: got the little dogs and everything else. And it's so
Speaker 4: funny because they are not designed for this.
Speaker 1: So you know, I know, little little little weenie dogs. No,
Speaker 1: they're they're you know, they get cold.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 4: I laid down right on the bed and I've got
Speaker 4: you know, four weedie dogs.
Speaker 1: Like they're smart enough to me what you watch puppies,
Speaker 1: they all that's why they all sleep together because they
Speaker 1: can't regulate there their heat, you know as an adult dot.
Speaker 1: So that's why they're all cuddle up in a pile
Speaker 1: to stay right.
Speaker 4: So but I'm part of the pile, you see, just
Speaker 4: because this weird thing. I can't even get take my
Speaker 4: blanket off because they have rolled themselves in the edges
Speaker 4: of my blanket and tucked up against my body, which
Speaker 4: you know, I'm barely mobile as it is, and now
Speaker 4: I got weedy dogs on my blanket, so you know
Speaker 4: what am I supposed to do? And I can't sleep anyway,
Speaker 4: so I'm literally sleeping an hour at a time. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's just it's a mess anyway.
Speaker 1: Is that because of the pain or still uncomfortable shot?
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course I've gotten no help. This is uh.
Speaker 4: I don't even want to go into it. I have
Speaker 4: an appointment that I'm waiting to go back again. But
Speaker 4: I tried to go to an MRI place. They couldn't
Speaker 4: fit me in the machine because they had this very
Speaker 4: antiquated setup. And there's one in town. Yeah, there's one
Speaker 4: in town that's an open MRI and all that, but
Speaker 4: they're not part of They're not working with my lawyer.
Speaker 4: So I'm yelling at the lawyer on the phone. I
Speaker 4: shouldn't even probably talk about this, but I'm yelling at
Speaker 4: the lawyer on the phone, like, look, yeah, you can
Speaker 4: make a business arrangement. I'm not stupid, Go do it,
Speaker 4: or send somebody in your office to do it. Make
Speaker 4: an arrangement with these people instead of these other people
Speaker 4: in my town. Okay, I'm sure they'll take you know,
Speaker 4: payments and exchanges and you guys can swap clients that way.
Speaker 4: Use your head. This is what I'm telling a lawyer.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't do that because if they're injury accident, they're
Speaker 1: usually set up to get your care right away because
Speaker 1: they can get the whole whole process moving because they
Speaker 1: don't get paid unless they get your results.
Speaker 4: Well, that was my complaint is you know, you guys
Speaker 4: want thirty forty percent of whatever it is you're gonna
Speaker 4: get how you're going to earn it if you're doing nothing, okay,
Speaker 4: and that way, you know, if if I shoot myself
Speaker 4: in the head in the meantime because I can't take
Speaker 4: this anymore, you're gonna get nothing. So you know, do something.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: I don't mean to talk that way, but for God's sake,
Speaker 4: you know, it's just anyway, Like I said, I shouldn't
Speaker 4: even be talking about this, but it's just it's so frustrating,
Speaker 4: it's so frustrating with just dealing with stupidity, is just
Speaker 4: getting getting to me. I can't. I can't take it anymore.
Speaker 4: I really literally can't take it anymore. So anyhow, sorry,
Speaker 4: I totally derailed you. You still want to talk about
Speaker 4: the weather.
Speaker 1: Well, I decided I just wanted to change it up
Speaker 1: because it's doing. But I saw that, hey on Facebook,
Speaker 1: you put I didn't get a chance to watch it.
Speaker 1: You put a YouTube on the I guess there's some hearings.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm so busy working on the the Martin
Speaker 1: Luther King, Oh yeah, especially the Fascination.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, Stu Wexler, who has been a guest on
Speaker 4: this show several times. I talked to him about a
Speaker 4: couple of books that he wrote with Larry Hancock and
Speaker 4: a couple of books he wrote by himself. Stu's a
Speaker 4: very smart guy. I appreciate him. He's like two years
Speaker 4: younger than me, I think. But he was generally a
Speaker 4: school teacher and then I don't know, had issues over
Speaker 4: COVID in school and whatever and ended up losing his job.
Speaker 4: But anyway, he now does other work and I don't
Speaker 4: know all that detail, but he has been involved with,
Speaker 4: you know, like a lot of the unsolid civil rights
Speaker 4: murders and things like that that have occurred and the
Speaker 4: FBI's abuses of people and stuff like that over the
Speaker 4: years through the MLK assassination as a lens obviously, but
Speaker 4: he was you know, given the opportunity to testify before
Speaker 4: the Lunar Committee, which you know, again Larry Hancock has
Speaker 4: been involved in three of the different sets of hearings
Speaker 4: now that have gone through that Oversight committe about declassification,
Speaker 4: which is he's involved with the UAP thing or UFO.
Speaker 4: He's been involved with the JFK stuff, and he is
Speaker 4: also involved with the MLK stuff in that He's advised
Speaker 4: people that are speaking there on all three occasions. Right
Speaker 4: now they turn it into you know, political circus and whatnot.
Speaker 4: People are whether you know, things are getting done. Everybody's
Speaker 4: got to sit there and praise Trump, you know while
Speaker 4: they're doing it this and that because of the executive order.
Speaker 4: But Stu points out, listen, it's great that this and
Speaker 4: that was released, but we still don't have the HSCA
Speaker 4: information on MLK, not a huge chunk of it, and
Speaker 4: that would show us what the FBI was doing in
Speaker 4: their campaign against the man. And there's a way to
Speaker 4: release this stuff without smearing them and just pointing out
Speaker 4: the abuses you know that Jaegar Hoover was indulging in
Speaker 4: at the time, and this would be extremely relevant to
Speaker 4: everybody that is interested in the government overreaching on you. Now,
Speaker 4: a lot of people think that's a liberal point of view,
Speaker 4: but it's really not if you think about it. Because
Speaker 4: even your pro trumpies are bitching and moaning about the
Speaker 4: overreach of the FBI. You got to do something about it.
Speaker 4: And until you look at an extensive historical record that
Speaker 4: nobody can claim as part of an ongoing investigation, Okay,
Speaker 4: you know, what are you supposed to say? You don't
Speaker 4: even have a good look at the mechanisms that are
Speaker 4: being utilized here, like cointelpro is a fancy catchword, that's
Speaker 4: nice and all, and they turned it against other people
Speaker 4: once MLK and others were dead. And by the way,
Speaker 4: there's still maybe an RFK hearing here, but who knows,
Speaker 4: you know. And I've got criticisms and praise for this
Speaker 4: representative Luna and the other members of the committee, but nonetheless,
Speaker 4: you know, everybody's got to play nice and try and
Speaker 4: get this stuff out. And I thought it would be
Speaker 4: good for everybody to watch Stu Wexler testify because he's he's,
Speaker 4: you know, a smart guy, and he's very measured and
Speaker 4: I appreciate his insights. So that's why I posted that.
Speaker 4: And also Larry wanted people to see it because he
Speaker 4: was talking to me. I don't know if he caught
Speaker 4: the one podcast that I did put out this week,
Speaker 4: but he was talking to me about it a little bit,
Speaker 4: and you know, okay, well, the thing is, that's when
Speaker 4: we were talking about Stu Wexler will be testifying tomorrow.
Speaker 4: If you would have you know, caught it when I
Speaker 4: put it out, it was I was putting it out
Speaker 4: about twelve hours before he did so that people could
Speaker 4: watch it live if they wanted to, because that's the
Speaker 4: other problem. You know, they most times they preserve these hearings,
Speaker 4: but sometimes not, and you know, you could have caught
Speaker 4: it on YouTube or CNN. I think I gave out
Speaker 4: the YouTube link because everybody uses YouTube.
Speaker 1: I saw I saw it. I didn't. I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't watch it. I just didn't have time, but I
Speaker 1: saw it quick post. I said, well, I'll check it
Speaker 1: out later.
Speaker 4: So well, on that page is still a link to
Speaker 4: the to the YouTube, and if you know, if somebody
Speaker 4: wants to, they could easily click on the link to
Speaker 4: go straight to the YouTube where it is preserved as
Speaker 4: a video up there on the channel designed for the
Speaker 4: Oversight Committee. So you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 4: I'm just putting out there. There's also the niece of
Speaker 4: Martin Luther King Junior, who is you know, really kind
Speaker 4: of like the Republican kind of faction in the King family,
Speaker 4: and so she was there. And then there's this other guy.
Speaker 4: I have no idea what his deal was, but he
Speaker 4: was a CLU guy. So it was like, Okay, here's
Speaker 4: your Republican, here's your liberal, and now here's the scholar
Speaker 4: who studied the case. And the scholar they picked is
Speaker 4: exactly the guy I would have picked, which is Stu Wexler.
Speaker 4: The only other edition I would have had is I
Speaker 4: would have asked Larry Hancock to show up, but he
Speaker 4: don't want to travel, because the two of them would
Speaker 4: have point could have pointed out, or specifically a whole
Speaker 4: bunch of things that these people have no idea what
Speaker 4: it is that they're passing on releasing or what it
Speaker 4: is that would be dangerous to release because they don't
Speaker 4: know this historical context. Larry and Stu spent you know,
Speaker 4: a couple decades studying what was missing from the record,
Speaker 4: so they know, you know, it's just like, I'm not
Speaker 4: like one hundred percent on board with Morley and his
Speaker 4: whole agenda, but he has enough knowledge about a whole
Speaker 4: lot of stuff that we know is still missing from
Speaker 4: the JFK record that should be there. So you know,
Speaker 4: you didn't hear me speak too much against him during
Speaker 4: the time he was doing all this stuff, and he's
Speaker 4: still exploiting it. He's coming out with Russian translations now
Speaker 4: and everything else from the document from a few months
Speaker 4: ago and all that, and I plan to address that
Speaker 4: in two weeks when I have Larry Beckham. We're going
Speaker 4: to talk about his articles he's been writing about Oswald
Speaker 4: and the update on his book. So you know, again,
Speaker 4: it's just this is historical revision that is necessary. And
Speaker 4: on the king assassination, even though the committee seemed to,
Speaker 4: you know, say, listen, this has already been decided criminally
Speaker 4: and you know, the right person was punished and so
Speaker 4: on and so forth, which, by the way, I object
Speaker 4: to because I don't know that for certain, you know,
Speaker 4: I don't know that James Ray was actually the guilty party.
Speaker 1: Uh, that's a strange. He is a strange. The whole
Speaker 1: how he managed to he can get out of it
Speaker 1: really baffled me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that baffles me as well. This guy got out
Speaker 4: of the country.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got out of the country city had help
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he claimed that. But the weirdest thing about this is, well,
Speaker 4: James or Al Ray was a career criminal that wasn't
Speaker 4: super bright, and yet he pulled off like James Bond
Speaker 4: level escaping the country right after this assassination, which is like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, there's lots of people that try
Speaker 4: and like build Lee Harvey Oswald into super spy. He wasn't.
Speaker 4: But James Array really did have some kind of support
Speaker 4: there because he had fake passports, he had the funds,
Speaker 4: and he went to you know, like England just you know,
Speaker 4: he had to be returned to the United States. The
Speaker 4: guy got out, I mean, if he had half a brain,
Speaker 4: he would have went somewhere else after that that had
Speaker 4: no extradition. But of course he was a stupid, criminate
Speaker 4: h And the thing is, you know, for somebody to
Speaker 4: drop off that package of stuff right there in the
Speaker 4: doorway on the street where King is murdered. It's almost
Speaker 4: like hello, police, come look in this blanket, you know.
Speaker 4: And it also includes a radio allegedly marked with James
Speaker 4: Elray's prison number in it, you know, like, why would
Speaker 4: you leave that on the street, And yet you pulled
Speaker 4: off this escape, got out of there despite roadblocks, everybody
Speaker 4: looking for you, you know, and uh, please, you know,
Speaker 4: not to mention the other weird stuff with the witnesses
Speaker 4: and and uh what was it, Charles, Oh my god,
Speaker 4: was the Stevens who's drunk out of his mind had
Speaker 4: to be helped up to bed. And yet he's a
Speaker 4: reliable witness, but his wife wasn't, you know, weird stuff
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not aware that I'm not aware of that witness.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well they're supposedly in the same boarding house that's
Speaker 4: across the street from the Lorraine Motel. Okay, and yeah,
Speaker 4: they they take there's this husband and wife. But the
Speaker 4: husband is dropped off by a cab driver and this
Speaker 4: is like, you know, attested to by a bunch of
Speaker 4: witnesses that he was so drunk the guy could hardly walk.
Speaker 4: Cab driver had to get out help him to his
Speaker 4: boarding house room to drop him off a couple hours later,
Speaker 4: though he's sober enough to understand that he saw James R.
Speaker 4: O'raay do this. That the third thing, his wife, who
Speaker 4: didn't concur with that, who was sober and awake, ends
Speaker 4: up in a mental ward. You know, there's a lot
Speaker 4: to that story that is just way out of whack,
Speaker 4: and not the least of which is an idiot criminal
Speaker 4: who was constantly getting himself busted trying to do simple
Speaker 4: burglaries pulls off, you know, an amazing shot okay from
Speaker 4: a window that doesn't even quite line up correctly pulls
Speaker 4: that off. So he shoots with the power of an assassin.
Speaker 4: And nobody even got to test that game Master rifle
Speaker 4: because Judge Joe Brown tried to do that and they
Speaker 4: knocked him off the bench. But that rifle and then
Speaker 4: he drops like everything including his prison radio to rifle
Speaker 4: all of it on the street and takes off in
Speaker 4: a Mustang and disappears out of town when everybody's looking
Speaker 4: for the white man that just shot Martin Luther King Junior. Okay,
Speaker 4: how the hell does anybody get out of town like that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: There's other stuff about the timing of his movements and
Speaker 4: all that. And if you listen to I think her
Speaker 4: name was Grace. I God, I can't remember her name now,
Speaker 4: but Mark Lane wound up having to get her out
Speaker 4: of the mental institution a couple of years later. Like,
Speaker 4: it was a whole weird thing. And I'm not even
Speaker 4: saying that's the most reliable part of it. I'm just
Speaker 4: saying there's lots of monkey wrenches in this narrative. And
Speaker 4: then he makes a plea that he immediately tries to reverse.
Speaker 4: He gets convicted on it anyway, and you know, he
Speaker 4: goes to try and get a retrial and the guy
Speaker 4: who's you know, got the retrial on his desk drops dead,
Speaker 4: you know, just magically. I mean, there is no end
Speaker 4: to the weirdness of this all. And the fact is
Speaker 4: there was at that time, there were people going around
Speaker 4: and some of them were con artists, but some of
Speaker 4: them were real guys trying to raise money among the
Speaker 4: like let's call them the John Birch Society type underground people.
Speaker 4: They literally collected donations from people to put toward kill
Speaker 4: contracts on you know, various uppity individuals, and of course
Speaker 4: Martin Luther King Junior was a well known one by
Speaker 4: nineteen sixty eight, so various people collected money. As matter
Speaker 4: of fact, that guy that you know, some people think
Speaker 4: was in Daley Plaza, you know who died in a
Speaker 4: house fire in Georgia, that you know, Robert Groden misidentifies
Speaker 4: with the white hair and all that in Daley Plaza,
Speaker 4: that guy was a con artist going around collecting money
Speaker 4: to try and get King assassinated. You know, the same
Speaker 4: guy who makes the confession about well, you don't worry,
Speaker 4: it's in the world, We're going to shoot Kennedy from
Speaker 4: an office building. He tells that to the informant Somerset
Speaker 4: there in Florida. Well, this guy was running around trying
Speaker 4: to convince people to give him money to get King killed.
Speaker 4: There's a whole thing to really yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: it's it's wild. Like if you want to talk about
Speaker 4: like truly an American bread like you know, right wing
Speaker 4: underground assassination, Doctor King might have been one of those
Speaker 4: depends if somebody I.
Speaker 1: Would doubt it, I wouldn't doubt it. I mean there,
Speaker 1: you know, his cause was causing a stir.
Speaker 4: You know, and then when he needs to pay for
Speaker 4: his high priced lawyer. He tried to collect part of
Speaker 4: the uh you know, part of the contract, which again
Speaker 4: stupid criminal and this is how he gets his brother
Speaker 4: in Wold by the way, you know, because it looks
Speaker 4: I'll put it to you this way. If I was
Speaker 4: to assassinate somebody on contract, I would be nowhere near
Speaker 4: and nor would anybody you could identify with me be
Speaker 4: anywhere near collecting that money. Okay, it would get collected,
Speaker 4: it would eventually make its way to me. It would
Speaker 4: be a little light by the time it got to
Speaker 4: me because you got to pay people. But you get
Speaker 4: that done by courier. You don't get that done. This
Speaker 4: is what a bagman is for. Okay, but I'm not
Speaker 4: a smokes man. Yeah, well, but fifty grand you can
Speaker 4: wait in nineteen sixty eight, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: You know, that's like spokes That's like right now, if
Speaker 4: somebody gave me a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 4: contract on somebody, First of all, they're dead, But second,
Speaker 4: I'm not collecting it. I will not even be in
Speaker 4: the state where the contract is out. I'll just make
Speaker 4: it happen, and that's how it gets done. But an
Speaker 4: idiot shows up, you know, I mean, unless you're unless
Speaker 4: you're you know, really stupid, low life, tough guy, and
Speaker 4: you think you can just walk up on somebody and
Speaker 4: pop him, you know once in ahead and walk away.
Speaker 4: You know, Either that or you're you're a serial killer
Speaker 4: like Roy to Mayo. Who you know? Really the mob
Speaker 4: just found a serial killer and weaponized him. He wasn't
Speaker 4: you know, oh the hit man. Wasn't it a hit?
Speaker 4: This guy would have been a serial killer anyway, roy
Speaker 4: to Mayo. If you don't know who that is, look
Speaker 4: up North Jersey and New York. Uh history. Well, he's
Speaker 4: a mob guy and the Gambinos utilized him until they
Speaker 4: stuffed him in a trunk. He's actually the guy who
Speaker 4: like all the legends you hear about people cutting up
Speaker 4: bodies and dropping him into different dumpsters. That's all from
Speaker 4: Roy to Mayo. That's all his matter of fact, they
Speaker 4: make a weird claim about this iceman. You've heard of
Speaker 4: the iceman Richard Koklinsky, maybe Danny.
Speaker 1: Oh the names, so I don't know.
Speaker 4: Uh, well, he's dead now, but some years ago he
Speaker 4: was like one of the most famous, Like, oh, this
Speaker 4: guy had more than likely killed one hundred people, and
Speaker 4: he killed people with cyanide and this and that and
Speaker 4: blah blah blah. He was like a big time thing
Speaker 4: for a little while. Excuse me, but he made claims
Speaker 4: He killed a few people, but he made claims about
Speaker 4: killing some. He took credit for stuff that he didn't do,
Speaker 4: and to my mind, he probably killed a handful of people. True.
Speaker 4: But he was a guy who got caught pretty quickly.
Speaker 4: And the reason why he got caught is because he
Speaker 4: forgot to thaw out the body before he dumped it.
Speaker 4: This is why he got named the iceman. So a
Speaker 4: coroner goes to cut open a body and yeah, the
Speaker 4: outside it look like in a microwave where the you know,
Speaker 4: the middle of the burrito's still frozen. You got to
Speaker 4: give things time to thaw out. Stupid and but but
Speaker 4: he was doing that so that somebody could disappear like
Speaker 4: this year, and then two years later he dropped off
Speaker 4: the body that was frozen, so it wouldn't be you know, decayed,
Speaker 4: and it would get discovered and they'd be like, oh,
Speaker 4: he must have died this week. And yeah, that might
Speaker 4: have worked had he not you know, gotten caught because
Speaker 4: they opened up a body of the corner did and
Speaker 4: was like it's still partially frozen inside because the guy
Speaker 4: didn't do it right. But anyway, and he claims to
Speaker 4: have worked with roy to Mayo, but roy to Mayo
Speaker 4: wouldn't have put up roy to Mayo would have gotten
Speaker 4: rid of this guy after one hit, because that was
Speaker 4: the other thing he did. He would hire an extra
Speaker 4: hitman to do stuff and then he'd kill that guy
Speaker 4: to take away the connection and then he wouldn't have
Speaker 4: to split the contract because again, he was a serial killer.
Speaker 4: He just he enjoyed killing roy to Mayo. Legendary. But anyway,
Speaker 4: I just always find it funny when you know, like
Speaker 4: these these like you know, we're going to tell you
Speaker 4: about the Mafia documentaries, tried to describe this guy. It's like,
Speaker 4: this was a freaking maniac, dude, this this was This
Speaker 4: isn't like some guy who was trying to work with Omerta.
Speaker 4: This was this was a maniac for real.
Speaker 1: Uh. You know who's the who was it? Massy? Was
Speaker 1: it her mass may Be from Mafia books? Who was Massy?
Speaker 1: I remember I heard him on an interview with Larry
Speaker 1: King and he was talking about some of the some
Speaker 1: of them goes, you know, not all were insane, but
Speaker 1: he goes, there's a few that were kind of like
Speaker 1: in the Good Fellows the oh, the Joe Pesci character
Speaker 1: just off his rocker.
Speaker 4: Well, the guy that see now, the guy that the
Speaker 4: Joe Pesci character is based on, was one of those
Speaker 4: guys who was a maniac.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he said, and he goes, there's really there's
Speaker 1: real guys that is that awful. Heye, chuck, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to get running here, Okay,
Speaker 1: but uh, this is a great topic, and I appreciate
Speaker 1: just share all this great knowledge. I really enjoy it.
Speaker 1: And uh, if I get some I got a task here.
Speaker 1: If I get it done, maybe and jump back on.
Speaker 1: But I really appreciate you. Good night, and I hope
Speaker 1: you stay warm.
Speaker 4: Listen.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it. I'm trying. But I'm telling you, you
Speaker 4: know you're you're listening to the dying part of my podcast.
Speaker 4: This has to be reinvented because we're having so many troubles.
Speaker 4: I I gotta I gotta figure out a way to
Speaker 4: keep myself and this thing going. And it's got to
Speaker 4: be done in the next couple of months because I'm
Speaker 4: losing my mind over here. But we're gonna, we're gonna
Speaker 4: try and figure it out, you know. Thankfully, I still
Speaker 4: got a few of you guys with me, and maybe
Speaker 4: we'll re emerge and really shake people up again, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got my son. I'm going to see my
Speaker 1: son this week and he's dig into tech. I'll share
Speaker 1: sometime what he's been doing, but I'll give him a
Speaker 1: chat about that podcast because he was kind of talking
Speaker 1: about it. He knows a lot about tech and perduct.
Speaker 1: He's he's a he's a project manager for streaming, so
Speaker 1: i'll see what it. Can talk to him if if
Speaker 1: he's got any ideas about you know, get it, what's
Speaker 1: the best system and all that stuff and affordabilding.
Speaker 4: Yeah, see, that's the problem.
Speaker 1: I'll do a little homework for you.
Speaker 4: Yeah see, I know what the best systems are, but
Speaker 4: they're not affordable based on where I'm at, unless I
Speaker 4: have some you know, decent investment to start with. Like
Speaker 4: if I can pay for a year's worth of this
Speaker 4: and a year's worth of that, then I can at
Speaker 4: least try to attack it to get that money back.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, And but but I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't have the startup cash. I don't have four
Speaker 4: hundred dollars to lay on anything. I'm barely keeping the
Speaker 4: lights on food in here, you know. So you know
Speaker 4: I can't afford to if I could spend four hundred
Speaker 4: dollars or five hundred dollars, bang, I know what to do.
Speaker 4: But I need the cheap alternative, and I know it's available.
Speaker 4: It's just a matter of finding it, you know. So
Speaker 4: if he understands that, well, know what is the low
Speaker 4: rent section of this, that would be great.
Speaker 1: Let me see if I can, let me see if
Speaker 1: I can help figure it out. I'll give him Sometimes
Speaker 1: I bounce ideas and he's you know, he's somebody who
Speaker 1: I just taught him how to do mechanics, and every
Speaker 1: time he couldn't do it because he got as an adult,
Speaker 1: he just was his good dad. It wasn't paying attention.
Speaker 1: So now I can hire somebody. So yeah, okay, well
Speaker 1: I'll let you go and I'll do you a little
Speaker 1: bit of homework this weekend for you. Maybe I can
Speaker 1: figure out how to help you out.
Speaker 4: Listen, I'd appreciate that, man, and thank you so much
Speaker 4: for calling in so you know again, that's Dandy from California.
Speaker 4: I love that guy. He's he's been helpful over time,
Speaker 4: and he's stuck with us, and I appreciate you. But
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm telling you, watching the numbers die on
Speaker 4: this podcast is killing me. And they were dying before
Speaker 4: my production went down, you know, because I'm doing less lately,
Speaker 4: I know that, but I'm still doing my best to
Speaker 4: always present you with something of quality when I do it.
Speaker 4: At least, you know, not everybody has Larry Hancock every
Speaker 4: two weeks. I do. I'm grateful for it. But even
Speaker 4: if I got to drag myself to the microphone to
Speaker 4: sit and talk with Larry, I will because you get
Speaker 4: some of the most intelligent intelligence possible from Larry. Anyways,
Speaker 4: the guy's name, by the way, from Goodfellas, I forgot
Speaker 4: to mention to Danny is what was his name, Tommy
Speaker 4: de Simone. I think in the movie was Tommy. I
Speaker 4: forget what the hell his name was in that movie.
Speaker 4: I'd spent a long time since I watched Goodfellas, But
Speaker 4: Tommy d Simone was the real guy, and the guy
Speaker 4: would literally get a new gun walk out on the
Speaker 4: street and shoot a random person. This isn't somebody trying
Speaker 4: to keep their head down, be quiet. No, this was
Speaker 4: just a nut. And yeah, the mob will weaponize guys
Speaker 4: like this, and when it comes time to get rid
Speaker 4: of him, guess what they get rid of them, you know.
Speaker 4: So it's a believable scenario that the Gambinos decided they
Speaker 4: had enough and decided to pop him in the back
Speaker 4: of the head. And when they told him they were
Speaker 4: going to make him, he wasn't even a made guy,
Speaker 4: decimon various of his family members were and that's why
Speaker 4: there was never a problem. And allegedly John Gott he
Speaker 4: was involved in that, but I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 4: That's a weird, twisted situation. But the Gambinos had had
Speaker 4: enough of him because he took out a couple other
Speaker 4: people for not a good enough reason and without permission,
Speaker 4: so he had to go anyway. Me, Pete, I didn't
Speaker 4: mean to get into mob stories. But we're, you know,
Speaker 4: almost an hour into our normal time at ten pm,
Speaker 4: we're going to have the Age of Transitions on. I
Speaker 4: have no idea what Aaron's talking about this week. Last
Speaker 4: week I did that ground zero radio show which I
Speaker 4: don't think I've added it to the livery stream mix,
Speaker 4: and I'm not going to put it out as a
Speaker 4: podcast because they have it behind a paywall ground zero Radio.
Speaker 4: But I will put it out so that if you
Speaker 4: do listen to the twenty four to seven audio radio
Speaker 4: station over here, you will hear it. I thought it
Speaker 4: was interesting. I had callers trying to get on my
Speaker 4: nerves about the Jewish mafia. Of course, you know what
Speaker 4: about them, They actually run everything, and I'm like, no, guys,
Speaker 4: you are missing the point. I know they yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 4: Israel runs the banks. I know who I'm talking to now,
Speaker 4: thank you. But that doesn't mean that they're all about
Speaker 4: organized crime. That's not to say that I don't think
Speaker 4: Israel is a criminal state. I do, but they're not
Speaker 4: running organized crime on the planet. You're misjudging it. It's
Speaker 4: just not the way it goes. They haven't existed long
Speaker 4: enough to build the networks. They've done a good job
Speaker 4: with the Macade, no mistake, and their military is top notch,
Speaker 4: but they're not running criminal enterprises on the planet. Unless
Speaker 4: you can say, look, if you want to consider banking
Speaker 4: a criminal enterprise, then I will concede that to you.
Speaker 4: But even so, not say that even the majority of
Speaker 4: the banks are run by Israel. I'm sorry, they're just not. Again,
Speaker 4: before there wasn't Israel. There were many banks dinging ding.
Speaker 4: What does he get, Johnny? Nothing? Okay, BPTE. Anything else
Speaker 4: on your mind this week?
Speaker 5: Yeah, just some passing notes. Bassis for the Scorpions. Francis
Speaker 5: uh is it Francis Buckholts I think his name was,
Speaker 5: has passed away at seventy one.
Speaker 6: Now we're really getting up there.
Speaker 5: When we started seeing people that you know, was our
Speaker 5: age making music, and now they're slowly leaving us.
Speaker 6: It's a shame. I enjoyed their music. They were very good.
Speaker 4: Well, the Scorpions, yeah.
Speaker 6: Missus Buckholes.
Speaker 4: He was a bass player, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was.
Speaker 5: With the Scorpions and then went on to Michael Shanker band.
Speaker 5: Doesn't say what he died of, but it's seventy one.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's anybody's guess.
Speaker 4: Seventy one. Yeah, it just could have been, you know,
Speaker 4: and yeah, I remember MSG. A lot of people forget
Speaker 4: the Michael Shanker group, right, And it was kind of
Speaker 4: funny because since I lived in the New York area,
Speaker 4: It was funny to see MSG playing at MSG because
Speaker 4: Madison Square Garden was like, you know, one of those
Speaker 4: I got to get to play there, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, whether you were a comedian or a musician,
Speaker 4: that was a big deal to play Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 4: Of course, when I was an aspiring musician, that was
Speaker 4: one of my you know, yeah, I absolutely want to
Speaker 4: be on stage at MSG. But Michael Shanker group, they
Speaker 4: had a weird way of tying together the M, the
Speaker 4: S and the G. You could probably look up their
Speaker 4: logo online. I haven't seen it in many years. But
Speaker 4: no interesting bass player. The Scorpions always. You know what's
Speaker 4: weird about the Scorpions is to me they were like
Speaker 4: just the additive band, like they were good for background mostly,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Well, they were.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was over in Germany when they were really
Speaker 5: going through there heyday, so we got to see more
Speaker 5: of them over there than I think he did here
Speaker 5: in the state. You know, until you can get you know,
Speaker 5: snag tickets to a show. But we saw a lot
Speaker 5: of them in Europe. They were they were influential over there,
Speaker 5: probably more so than over here.
Speaker 6: But the excellent, excellent band.
Speaker 4: I mean, well, you know what, you know what partially
Speaker 4: screwed for the hair era. Yeah, no, for the hair era.
Speaker 4: And it was weird because they didn't have a pretty
Speaker 4: front man either who had a very unique sound. Klaus
Speaker 4: Mine had an unique sound, but it was kind of
Speaker 4: one trick, you know, but it was interesting, it was
Speaker 4: very even and nobody else sounded like him, so you know.
Speaker 4: But uh, the thing I think screwed them up well, and.
Speaker 6: Then they they had to added well if they had.
Speaker 5: To add and startup you know, their song Wins. The
Speaker 5: change was was pretty big when when the Berlin Wall
Speaker 5: came down. Yeah, so they were able to capitalize on that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But previous to that, I mean, Rocky like a
Speaker 4: hurricane was what like a nineteen eighty three thing, right,
Speaker 4: so I mean they were actually ahead of the wave
Speaker 4: here from Europe as far as the hair bands go.
Speaker 4: You know, well, we were still you know, bringing up
Speaker 4: LA bands. These guys mixed in with them. And the
Speaker 4: thing that screwed up the Scorpions a little bit was
Speaker 4: they had an album cover. I don't know if they
Speaker 4: had one of the most controversial album covers in history.
Speaker 4: You know, Nirvana, you got a Baby penis on the
Speaker 4: front cover. But okay, but what was it? The album
Speaker 4: was called Virgin Killer. It might have been an EP.
Speaker 4: It was like this thing, yes, seventy six right, so
Speaker 4: but there was this like barbed wire like one of
Speaker 4: the covers that you probably it's probably expensive collector's item now,
Speaker 4: but one of the covers was pretty much considered you know,
Speaker 4: kiddie porn because there was this like naked female on
Speaker 4: the front cover and a piece of barbed wire that was,
Speaker 4: you know, conceptually kind of stuck like a in an
Speaker 4: uncomfortable place.
Speaker 5: Well, the original, the original album cover, it was a
Speaker 5: crack in glass that was strategically placed, and then it
Speaker 5: got changed.
Speaker 4: See now I saw the one, you know, in like
Speaker 4: eighty five, I saw it over here with the barbed wire,
Speaker 4: So I don't I maybe the one did exist with
Speaker 4: the with the glass, but it was still it was
Speaker 4: Virgin Killer was the name of it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna put a link in the room to
Speaker 5: the Wikipedia page which has got the original image with
Speaker 5: the cracked glass. Okay, in the strategic location.
Speaker 4: Cool, but I know that barbed wire one existed too, uh,
Speaker 4: And then they had to change to a completely different
Speaker 4: album cover. But again, Nirvana, one of the largest you
Speaker 4: know albums in like rock history, never Mind has a
Speaker 4: naked baby boy on it, you know that?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, so a fine line between art and
Speaker 4: kitty porn. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not defending any
Speaker 4: of it. Okay, I'm just saying, you.
Speaker 6: Know, I'm just looking to hear some notes.
Speaker 5: Wind of Change actually sold over fourteen billion copies as
Speaker 5: a single.
Speaker 4: Well, how good did rock You Like a Hurricane do?
Speaker 4: Because I thought that that was like their breakthrough thing
Speaker 4: Love at First Sting and all that.
Speaker 5: All Let's see reached number twenty five in the US
Speaker 5: Billboard Hot one hundred. Uh.
Speaker 4: It was a big thing on MTV. I know that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, because I'll never forget the factor.
Speaker 5: Our hockey team back in two thousand and two was
Speaker 5: using Rocky Like a Hurricane for their song that they
Speaker 5: played during games at the PNC Arena.
Speaker 6: So there you go, And it was named.
Speaker 5: The eighteenth greatest rock song hard rock song of all
Speaker 5: Time by VH one.
Speaker 4: Oh, there you have it. But then again, it was
Speaker 4: a big hit on MTV, So of course VH one
Speaker 4: is you know, a subdivision of MTV, makes perfect sense. Oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: but Klaus mind was a big deal. I remember there
Speaker 4: were MTV concert what was the contest, you know, like
Speaker 4: you go, you can go on tour with the Scorpions,
Speaker 4: And I thought, oh my god, because these guys were
Speaker 4: legendary problems. And I knew that from having you know,
Speaker 4: toured early early with the Monsters of Metal tour, which
Speaker 4: was an offshoot of the Monsters.
Speaker 1: Of Rock to me know this.
Speaker 6: But hell, they started back in nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 4: See there you go. They were not a young band
Speaker 4: by the time they actually hit here. I don't know
Speaker 4: how big they were in Germany. You know, back then
Speaker 4: we weren't in such great contact with Germany, but they
Speaker 4: were not huge here. Like I think in my mind,
Speaker 4: I think it's like Rocky like a hurricane as what
Speaker 4: got him here? Yeah, and then they did what was
Speaker 4: it still Loving You and a couple other songs I
Speaker 4: think are on the same album. And then they actually
Speaker 4: released a double live album here at one point, you know,
Speaker 4: back in the days of double albums, remember those. Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: every and by the way, every white person I ever
Speaker 4: knew had a copy of Frampton Comes Alive.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's it's funny though that Michael Shanker
Speaker 5: he left.
Speaker 6: They were they had an opening band.
Speaker 5: See, they were opened up for British band UFO, right,
Speaker 5: and at the end this is seventy two, and towards
Speaker 5: the end of that tour, UFO gave an offer to
Speaker 5: Michael Shanker and he accepted their offer to play lead guitar.
Speaker 5: So when he left, that's what led to the breakup
Speaker 5: in seventy three of the Scorpions until they came, you know,
Speaker 5: reform later on.
Speaker 6: It's a weird.
Speaker 5: Story, but I never realized that they started way back
Speaker 5: in sixty five.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Now you'd be amazed at some of these bands
Speaker 4: that people think like started when they became a hit,
Speaker 4: and some of them, you know, toiled for a long time.
Speaker 4: You know, the whole like if you don't make it
Speaker 4: by your twenty by the time you're twenty seven, thing
Speaker 4: was a general rule, but some people broke it. You know,
Speaker 4: Frampton did well in a band before, and then it
Speaker 4: was that Frampton comes a live album that was like
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, it was it was like you practically
Speaker 4: got issued one if you lived in a neighborhood with
Speaker 4: you know, more than ten white people.
Speaker 5: That was one of the few albums that I had both.
Speaker 5: I had a vinyl eight track and cassette.
Speaker 4: Oh you had all three versions of that thing?
Speaker 5: Well yeah, I mean because you know when you go
Speaker 5: from eight track to supertitary in your car, you know
Speaker 5: it's much easier to carry cassettes than eight track tapes.
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Speaker 4: twenty six. I am all that time during that break,
Speaker 4: By the way, I told Bpete, listen, I'm gonna go
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Speaker 4: And that's what took me all that time, that long
Speaker 4: long break. It was like a six minute break at least.
Speaker 4: I don't like taking them that long, but I put
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Speaker 4: but kind of glad I didn't because I wound up
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Speaker 4: do have a caller, but first I want to go
Speaker 4: back over to be Pete real fast and see if
Speaker 4: he's got anything he wants to cover before we take
Speaker 4: a call from looks like Jimmy James.
Speaker 6: To quick sports notes.
Speaker 5: Right now, Ohio State is beating Michigan in NCAA basketball,
Speaker 5: and we have the conference championships this weekend. We got
Speaker 5: the Patriots versus the Broncos at three o'clock on CBS Sunday,
Speaker 5: and then we have the Rams versus the Seahawks on
Speaker 5: Fox at six point thirty.
Speaker 6: So that's what we'll be doing Sunday.
Speaker 4: Wow, wait a minute, So it's Rams, Seahawks and Patriots Who.
Speaker 6: Broncos Broncos Denver Broncos. The only team John always old team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the only team in that mix that I would
Speaker 4: want to root for at all might be the Seahawks.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the Seahawks over the Rams. I hope
Speaker 5: they go all the way, but I don't know. Being
Speaker 5: nice to see the Broncos do something. They've got a
Speaker 5: real good team this year.
Speaker 4: See now, I wasn't paying attention yet because I'm waiting
Speaker 4: for the Super Bowl thing to happen with Uncle, because
Speaker 4: we might do a bet again. But we still have
Speaker 4: an outstanding somebody didn't pay last year's Super Bowl bet
Speaker 4: from the Uncle Show. And it's a little pissy because look,
Speaker 4: it was a dollar apiece, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like in other words, everybody, okay, if there was three
Speaker 4: people on each side, it was going to cost you
Speaker 4: three bucks. And the whole agreement was you got to
Speaker 4: each mail a dollar two each guy. Okay, So it
Speaker 4: cost you a dollar in a stamp, okay, and a
Speaker 4: dollar and one guy didn't but yeah, but okay, But
Speaker 4: but I agreed to it, and it so happened. Oddly,
Speaker 4: I was on the winning side last.
Speaker 6: Year because welched go ahead, and tell us who welched
Speaker 6: it was.
Speaker 4: It was this guy who calls himself Coolly, who like
Speaker 4: does demolition derby stuff and all this craziness in Ohio,
Speaker 4: and he was making all kinds of claims and he
Speaker 4: tried to make extra and everything. I had people trying
Speaker 4: to raise it. This is what I call a dirty
Speaker 4: dollar bet, which is you know, it's just it's some
Speaker 4: people used to call it a german a gentleman's bet, right,
Speaker 4: because it was just the point of the thing. We
Speaker 4: were not gonna do nothing with a dollar, even when
Speaker 4: I was a kid, really not really with a dollar, right,
Speaker 4: But if everybody just wanted to start betting with each
Speaker 4: other instead of people like, you know, losing their whole
Speaker 4: paycheck for a week or whatever, you just go, look, man,
Speaker 4: it's a buck, okay, and you pull back and forth,
Speaker 4: so it might end up costing it. If he got
Speaker 4: five guys on each side. You know, what are you
Speaker 4: gonna do. You're gonna have a five dollar bill. Somebody's
Speaker 4: got to make change, that's all, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's not the end of the world. But this guy
Speaker 4: never paid. And it's crazy because I even had one
Speaker 4: guy send me all the money to distribute the people
Speaker 4: like distribute this on PayPal. I was like, okay, And
Speaker 4: the funny thing is the guy who did that, I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna name anybody, but he made a sign bet
Speaker 4: with somebody for ten more dollars. So I had to
Speaker 4: send eleven dollars to one person, and then everybody else
Speaker 4: got a dollar through pay pal.
Speaker 6: It was service chargers of more than that.
Speaker 4: Well. Look, but again, the point wasn't even to win money.
Speaker 4: It was just a matter of honor your bet, you know.
Speaker 6: But you gotta even if it's a buck. He got honorate.
Speaker 6: I mean, that's see. You know, give out the Weasel
Speaker 6: Award this year to the person that welches.
Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you what. If he doesn't pay it
Speaker 4: by this Super Bowl, I'm definitely gonna make a point
Speaker 4: of it on the Uncle show that like, hey, we
Speaker 4: never got.
Speaker 6: Paid for that one, publicly shame him.
Speaker 4: So so here's the coolie rule. If you don't pay
Speaker 4: it in thirty days, you now owe everybody triple. There
Speaker 4: you go, That's what I think will solve it. You know,
Speaker 4: every thirty days at triples. How about that? So one
Speaker 4: dollar becomes three dollars, becomes nine dollars, becomes twenty seven dollars.
Speaker 4: How about that?
Speaker 6: And then when a gun and pay put a lean
Speaker 6: on the guy's car, Hey.
Speaker 4: We can sit here joke about his total going up,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean from now on now? There
Speaker 4: was no agreement like that in place, So I you know,
Speaker 4: I bet honorably when I can, you know, And speaking
Speaker 4: of a guy who actually pays his debts too, Jimmy
Speaker 4: James is on the phone. Are you ready for that
Speaker 4: or did you want to talk more sports?
Speaker 6: No? Bring Jimmy on now.
Speaker 4: The funny thing is I want to root for the Seahawks,
Speaker 4: but I got to tell you, my gambling instinct is
Speaker 4: telling me go with the Rams, and I don't know why.
Speaker 6: No, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Seeing I thought the Rams.
Speaker 4: I see, I've looked. I've looked at nothing. No, I see,
Speaker 4: I've looked at nothing. I'm not a fan of any
Speaker 4: of these teams. The teams that I actually like in
Speaker 4: the NFL are all out. They're all out of contention
Speaker 4: here because I don't want to discuss the teams I
Speaker 4: like because you won't understand it. I like, I like
Speaker 4: the Raiders, I like the Jets. Okay, Jets is obviously
Speaker 4: my Mets. Jets losing streak problem that I just have mentally,
Speaker 4: so you know, what are you going to do? Which,
Speaker 4: by the way, I can't wait to see how they
Speaker 4: fail this year, the Mets, because we do have spring
Speaker 4: training stuff happening.
Speaker 6: Already right Weirdly, it starts in February.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I thought pictures already reported or something I
Speaker 4: read somewhere.
Speaker 6: They may have.
Speaker 1: They may have.
Speaker 5: Usually it starts around first February is when spring training
Speaker 5: kicks off, which is.
Speaker 4: Insane, but Okay, anyway, you know, what are you going
Speaker 4: to do in Florida falls in the ocean? All right,
Speaker 4: I guess they'll all have to train in Arizona. They'll
Speaker 4: I'll be training in Arizona. In Las Vegas.
Speaker 6: You know, I enjoyed that.
Speaker 5: Though going down for spring training is is, It's something
Speaker 5: to enjoy because you get to see these guys coming out,
Speaker 5: you know, cold from sitting over the winter and watching
Speaker 5: them and watching them do what they can to try
Speaker 5: to figure out, especially the guys that are in the
Speaker 5: farm teams. You know, major league roster you're not worried about,
Speaker 5: but just watching these guys play, trying to work their
Speaker 5: way up in the system.
Speaker 6: I've always enjoyed spring training.
Speaker 5: If anybody ever gets a chance to go, you off
Speaker 5: to it's worth taking a week and going see in
Speaker 5: the MIDI Florida War Arizona.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The Mets used to do that in Port Saint Lucy.
Speaker 4: I don't know where they do it now, but they
Speaker 4: used to do it in Port Saint Lucy and they
Speaker 4: would have an A and B squad and it was
Speaker 4: amazing because your A squad was obviously, you know, mostly
Speaker 4: your major league roster for the most part right, and
Speaker 4: then the standouts from the B Squad, who were guys
Speaker 4: that were invited, you know, from throughout the farm system
Speaker 4: or walk Ons or I don't know what where they
Speaker 4: got happy these guys from. But occasionally they would pull
Speaker 4: a couple of guys from the B Squad and throw
Speaker 4: them and you know, they'd mix them a couple of times,
Speaker 4: they play them against each other. It was great. It
Speaker 4: was a lot of fun, I thought. But anyway, that's
Speaker 4: the Mets farm system and nothing else. This one about
Speaker 4: the Mets other than that. Good God, couldn't couldn't even
Speaker 4: beat the Yankees for me in a subway series in
Speaker 4: my lifetime. You have bastards anyhow, freaking Mets. You know what,
Speaker 4: that's one of my favorite things. You ever hear that
Speaker 4: sound clip from Family Guy that I had for a
Speaker 4: little bit. I don't think I have it anymore, But
Speaker 4: have you ever heard that one?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, where Stewie goes.
Speaker 5: Your problem is the problem is you you're pulling for
Speaker 5: the Mets, and they just never had the cash that
Speaker 5: the Yankees had to buy their roster.
Speaker 4: No, but even when they spent it, listen, even when
Speaker 4: they spent it, it didn't matter, because they always bought
Speaker 4: the right they would always buy the wrong guy. It
Speaker 4: was it was amazing, Like they paid the most money
Speaker 4: ever to a baseball player for Bobby Benia, right, he
Speaker 4: was the first one hundred million dollar baseball contract I
Speaker 4: ever heard of in the nineties, And it was like,
Speaker 4: Bobby Billa is going to be the center of our team.
Speaker 4: He's part of the killer beat. They got the wrong guy,
Speaker 4: Barry Bonds went to go play in San Francisco. That's
Speaker 4: the guy they needed to spend the money on. They
Speaker 4: only finished paid Bobby Bonill like two years ago for
Speaker 4: his deferred contract, okay, because he was like one hundred
Speaker 4: and twenty six million dollars and a guy came in
Speaker 4: and hit like twenty five home runs Like that is
Speaker 4: not I've never understood.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've never understood the cap.
Speaker 5: You know, if you're going to if you're going to
Speaker 5: cap people's salaries as a way to try to even
Speaker 5: things out, it still didn't stop the Yankees from throwing
Speaker 5: the money down and buying a pennant. I mean, I
Speaker 5: just I don't understand the cap. But with the money,
Speaker 5: you ought to be able to play the guy.
Speaker 4: Listen, the cap has slowed it down right, And being
Speaker 4: somebody who was involved with the Blue Jays, weren't you
Speaker 4: involved with the Blue Jays war oranization at a certain point? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: so you should understand.
Speaker 6: The Blue Jays coming out of Canada.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Blue Jays were never going to have the
Speaker 4: money to feel, you know, Derek Jeter and like four serious,
Speaker 4: like Hall of Fame home run hitters on one team.
Speaker 4: Blue Jays were never going to have that cash.
Speaker 5: But that's the point though, the Blue Jays, No, they'd
Speaker 5: never have the money. But during that era when they
Speaker 5: were pumping money into the Yankees left and right, we
Speaker 5: were able to get back to Backworld Series wins off
Speaker 5: those bastards.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, and that was an amazing thing. But
Speaker 4: and so do I. This is this is how I
Speaker 4: became a met fan. I'm serious, because it was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: they had Reggie Jackson and that's all cool and everything,
Speaker 4: but they bought him, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: Thurman Munson was also killed and it was kind of
Speaker 4: like a downer, but also it was just the I
Speaker 4: hate the designated hitter. I really really really hate the
Speaker 4: designated hitter. Still, I know it everywhere now but you know, anyway,
Speaker 4: a good.
Speaker 5: Fan of the US and adds a nice twist.
Speaker 4: I don't know if Jimmy j I think Jimmy James
Speaker 4: might be a Tigers fan, which might be as bad
Speaker 4: as being a Mets fan, except the Tigers are an
Speaker 4: older team.
Speaker 5: That's the problem being a Toronto fan is we've got
Speaker 5: to play the Tigers, We've got to play the Yankees.
Speaker 6: It's it's well, we got Boston in there. I mean,
Speaker 6: it's a hell of a conference, yeah, it is.
Speaker 4: And ridiculous that you got to compete with the Yankees
Speaker 4: is an unfair advantage. It's just it's a ridiculous. And
Speaker 4: that's why I don't even mind that La won this
Speaker 4: year because they have a generational player on that team.
Speaker 4: That's like, of course, the team with Babe Ruth on
Speaker 4: it won the World Series. Duh. You know, like, but
Speaker 4: this is Babe Ruth. If they still let him pitch
Speaker 4: because he's a two way player, you know, right, tany.
Speaker 6: Right, but look what it is able to do this year.
Speaker 5: You could have him top Beachen and still have him
Speaker 5: go in as a pitcher later if you had to
Speaker 5: use him.
Speaker 6: I mean, that's the nice universal thing about the DH.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, but I still hate the DH because
Speaker 4: the fact that a pitcher doesn't have to face, doesn't
Speaker 4: have to stand in that batter's box. I mean, they
Speaker 4: don't throw it guys anymore either. You know, that's another thing.
Speaker 4: They just don't do it. You know, it's hell they don't,
Speaker 4: not really, not really no no, no no no.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Even Gaylord Perry, you know, King of the Spitball, would
Speaker 4: drill you in your back if you tried to embarrass him.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, that was a whole other situation. Said,
Speaker 4: not like it did. Come on, Nolan Ryan would lose
Speaker 4: one hundred and five mile an hour fastball at you,
Speaker 4: you know, and hit you. Once he was older, it
Speaker 4: was one hundred and one, but still hurt. I promise
Speaker 4: you that I was.
Speaker 6: That was after after surgery, Right.
Speaker 4: Right after the surgery, he went down to like one
Speaker 4: hundred hundred and one. He was dangerous like that when
Speaker 4: he was a rookie with the Mets, too, except he
Speaker 4: was too damn wild. He would accidentally hit people for real.
Speaker 5: Nolan Ryland, I'd have to say, is probably one of
Speaker 5: my top ten pitchers.
Speaker 4: I love the guy. His winning percentage is not great,
Speaker 4: but he was such a workhorse and had such a
Speaker 4: long career that that's why he's got I mean, who
Speaker 4: in the hell is going to beat a strikeout total? Nobody? Okay,
Speaker 4: three hundred wins over five thousand strikeouts?
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 4: Seven no hitters?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 4: I mean, who's going to pull that off? Who's gonna
Speaker 4: I mean, maybe Otani might be able to pull it off,
Speaker 4: but outside of like a phenom like him, yeah, good luck.
Speaker 5: If if Otani stays healthy, you're gonna see him break records.
Speaker 6: I mean, the guy is just phenomenal.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you're gonna see him break records both pitching
Speaker 5: him with a bat in his hands.
Speaker 4: Yeah. That's the thing is that this guy, if he
Speaker 4: stays healthy long enough and doesn't just retire, which you
Speaker 4: know he could probably do in a couple of years
Speaker 4: and still guarantee himself a slot in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4: But if he he's actually got me watching baseball again
Speaker 4: because that is just talent, man, you know. And again
Speaker 4: I wish the Mets would figure out how to buy
Speaker 4: a guy like that. You know, get your ask to Japan,
Speaker 4: get your ask the Japan Mets people, and go find
Speaker 4: the next Natana because I guarantee you he's over there.
Speaker 4: You know they haven't harvested everybody yet, go over there
Speaker 4: and get him, because there's another I guarantee there's another
Speaker 4: guy like that.
Speaker 6: Had a lot of Korean players here in the past
Speaker 6: few years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're no, they're not. They've been Yeah, they've been
Speaker 4: good a long time.
Speaker 1: All is huge in Korea.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, it always has been. They're okay. But
Speaker 4: in Japan, because of the very very strict rules and
Speaker 4: everything on, these guys. The only people that survive in
Speaker 4: that system are disciplined. I mean, like you know who,
Speaker 4: like their home run King was for like generations, right, Sakahara,
Speaker 4: Oh guy hit over eight hundred home runs? Right, tiny guy,
Speaker 4: blast the ball, no problem. I mean, just perfect technique.
Speaker 4: And that's the funny thing you see with like it's
Speaker 4: it's hilarious. But I mean like you're never going to
Speaker 4: see another Pete Rose, You're never going to see another
Speaker 4: Babe Ruth. But maybe you are with Otani, but you
Speaker 4: won't see another little guy like this one hundred years probably.
Speaker 4: But I bet you you can get two guys to
Speaker 4: equal Otani. I bet you can get a designated hitter
Speaker 4: and a picture like Otani out of Japan and pay
Speaker 4: him half the money that Otani's getting and bring him
Speaker 4: to the Mets. Get on the job, people. Anyways, Jimmy
Speaker 4: James been waiting. I'm sorry my frustration of being a
Speaker 4: Mets fan. But then again, I don't know. Maybe Jimmy's
Speaker 4: still a I'm thinking he's a Tigers fan. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Let me check, Jimmy. I did wait, okay, I unmuted you.
Speaker 4: Sorry about that. I was having trouble with my button actually,
Speaker 4: and delayed you a moment there and tried to make
Speaker 4: sure I could get you on. I know you're on now, though,
Speaker 4: so please go ahead tell us about the Tigers or
Speaker 4: anything else on your mind. It's all you, man.
Speaker 3: Oh I had and now it's just but oh field drained.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, man, what was your analysis about?
Speaker 3: If you look in the chat room, there's a picture.
Speaker 3: I want to find. Does that Harry guy you know?
Speaker 1: Or Harris?
Speaker 3: Harry Harris, what's his name? I want to know if
Speaker 3: he's got this picture.
Speaker 1: I dropped.
Speaker 3: The document the references in the chat room.
Speaker 4: Oh well, okay, I'll go. I'll go check that I'm
Speaker 4: not in the chat room right this second, BP. Do
Speaker 4: you see it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a picture that supposedly had Oswald picketing in DC.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, let me see.
Speaker 3: The captain what's his name? Minion or some crap photo.
Speaker 1: Some Air Force.
Speaker 3: Captain took the picture.
Speaker 4: I don't know about that.
Speaker 3: Let's see.
Speaker 6: James Waller the Web what's his name?
Speaker 4: Oops? There we go. Sorry, Jimmy bounced back for a second.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 4: What was his name? B Pete?
Speaker 6: James W. Marlin?
Speaker 5: He was a captain who was from Web Air Force Base.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, okay, I have not gotten the picture to
Speaker 4: resolve yet because for some reason it's giving me problems.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 4: Let's see, I'm twenty five.
Speaker 5: Took a bunch of pictures while he was in DC,
Speaker 5: and he got a picture of a group of pickets
Speaker 5: out in front of the White House. And this was
Speaker 5: in September of sixty two, and said, while he was
Speaker 5: looking at the slides on his projector, he thought one
Speaker 5: of the guys was Lee Harvey Oswald. And it was
Speaker 5: a sign that said don't make Cuba our fifty first state.
Speaker 11: Well that is and under that document they got a
Speaker 11: document the FBI says they cannot say whether it is
Speaker 11: or it is not, which is interesting.
Speaker 3: They could rule it. Well, there's maybe we can't now
Speaker 3: sixty two years later.
Speaker 4: And you know what, Jimmy, this is an interesting point
Speaker 4: because there were several of these leads where you have
Speaker 4: Oswald pictured, you have statements accompanying pictures, you have alleged
Speaker 4: recorded phone calls, and there's no physical evidence of the recordings.
Speaker 4: There were people that were claiming to have, you know,
Speaker 4: reel to reels with Oswald's voice on them, and this
Speaker 4: stuff went back and forth for a long time. There's
Speaker 4: tons of this kind of stuff. By the way, so
Speaker 4: let's see under the date of January thirty, nineteen sixty four,
Speaker 4: the FBI Laboratory furnished and enlargement of the slide. Okay, well,
Speaker 4: I'm still looking for the slide. I'm looking at the
Speaker 4: documents here, what pages this on?
Speaker 3: No, there's no picture, there is no pictures. I'm saying,
Speaker 3: I'm looking for it.
Speaker 1: I want to see it.
Speaker 4: Oh oh, okay, well I will try to try.
Speaker 11: You're reading the synopsis from the FBI Laboratory. That's good
Speaker 11: to read that paragraph because they admit we don't know
Speaker 11: it does kind of it looks like them, but we
Speaker 11: can't say it is or it is not, which is
Speaker 11: interesting that they just didn't flat out say.
Speaker 5: No, it is not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true because I probably looked through about I'd
Speaker 4: have to say a good like three hundred of these
Speaker 4: kind of claims of Oswald being here, there, everywhere that
Speaker 4: you know, the leads go nowhere.
Speaker 3: But you're right.
Speaker 4: It is interesting in this one where they're not just
Speaker 4: automatically saying no, it's not him, you know, because a
Speaker 4: lot of them, by the way, because people didn't have
Speaker 4: knowledge of the exact dates when he was in the
Speaker 4: Soviet Union. There was a ton of people. And this
Speaker 4: is part of the argument with the Harvey and Lee thing,
Speaker 4: is that a ton of Oswald's sightings occurred when he's
Speaker 4: clearly in the Soviet Union, Like there is no way
Speaker 4: he's photographed in like say, you know, either Louisiana or
Speaker 4: Arkansas or Maryland or all these other places New York
Speaker 4: even on certain dates people are like, I know this
Speaker 4: was Lee Harvey Oswald, and the FBI just basically started
Speaker 4: checking off a bunch of him as like, well, we
Speaker 4: know he was in the Soviet Union. Done end a story,
Speaker 4: And I like the physical description here by the way,
Speaker 4: which is you know, a male age twenty six to
Speaker 4: twenty eight, which is not unlike even though Oswald was
Speaker 4: only twenty two at the time or twenty three. Five
Speaker 4: foot seven is a little short, but you know, heights
Speaker 4: can vary a bit. Slender, thin, black receding hair at front,
Speaker 4: combed neatly black leather jacket. Now, I don't recall Oswald
Speaker 4: owning a leather jacket, that's a little but the rest
Speaker 4: of the discretion, Yes.
Speaker 3: The sunglasses when he posed him with those characters.
Speaker 4: That's right, he did have one there, but I don't
Speaker 4: think it was discovered among any of his effects in
Speaker 4: America when they collected everything. Now, he could have had
Speaker 4: it and lost it or whatever. I'm just saying that
Speaker 4: outside of the Soviet Union, you don't actually get photographs
Speaker 4: of him wearing it, not even on that Uh you
Speaker 4: ever see that Thanksgiving film of him at home with
Speaker 4: his brothers and everything, Yeah.
Speaker 11: Where his brother filmed him watching football and all that.
Speaker 4: Right, right, Uh, you don't see the leather jacket as
Speaker 4: common with him, right, that's that's supposed Eisenhower jacket. You
Speaker 4: know that cloth thing that pops up in various photographs.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, when you see him wearing a jacket,
Speaker 4: you don't see that leather jacket again when he comes
Speaker 4: back to the US, generally speaking. But they first got
Speaker 4: rid of a whole bunch of stuff where it was like, no,
Speaker 4: he's in the Soviet Union. Uh. They did that, and
Speaker 4: then they had to go through a huge amount of stuff,
Speaker 4: and they had people like he's telling him that, like
Speaker 4: he was in Omaha and California and he's involved in
Speaker 4: like you know, like you know, gay night clubs, and
Speaker 4: like just craziness all over the place. Like there was
Speaker 4: just sightings of alleged Oswalt's everywhere.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's just a girl. Ester Alvarez and mister Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have noticed that he's now it's all I
Speaker 3: got around a lot.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: You know what's funny about this information He had heard
Speaker 4: through other members of the church that Okay, there is
Speaker 4: a last name here in this document that is part
Speaker 4: of what I would release in a book. You may
Speaker 4: have struck upon something here, Jimmy, because based on some
Speaker 4: of the people that they're putting together here in the
Speaker 4: you know, like tracking this down and people that were
Speaker 4: associated like you see who's with the church group and
Speaker 4: all that. Yeah, okay, I'm going to tell you that
Speaker 4: one of these last names is exactly the last name
Speaker 4: of not only one of the people that I met
Speaker 4: that I could never confirm was a marine and then
Speaker 4: ended up in Army intelligence for some reason, buddy of Oswalt's,
Speaker 4: but also claim to add and showed me enough proof
Speaker 4: that I do believe knew my father. Now I can
Speaker 4: really Yeah. I could never confirm that this guy was
Speaker 4: like in the Marines with Oswald, but I could confirm
Speaker 4: he knew Oswald. And then there's a lady here with
Speaker 4: the same last name that's involved in this discussion you
Speaker 4: see where they're discussing. Let's see what do they have
Speaker 4: this under?
Speaker 1: You know, I know who?
Speaker 3: Okay, a four letter a four letter name.
Speaker 4: Let me count the letters real fast. No, no, no, no, one, two, three, No,
Speaker 4: not a four letter name.
Speaker 1: That one.
Speaker 4: I know who that is too. But that's the thing
Speaker 4: is I'm seeing two names here. I was going to
Speaker 4: get to that the four letter name where is that
Speaker 4: five might be five? Okay, there's a five letter name
Speaker 4: here one, two, three, four or five six, And there's
Speaker 4: a seven letter name here that I know we're in
Speaker 4: his orbit that no other author has ever put in
Speaker 4: his orbit. That's one of those U world chuck.
Speaker 11: You know what's interesting is you know who debriefed Oswald?
Speaker 3: Was the Army Intelligence? And where would they do that?
Speaker 11: Probably Washington, I'll take a while, guess, sending the guy
Speaker 11: out of stuff there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, That's part of what I wanted to talk about
Speaker 4: in just my little Oswald section in my book, Believe
Speaker 4: it or not, is why is a guy who should
Speaker 4: have been dealt with by the ONI being debriefed by
Speaker 4: the Army intelligence people?
Speaker 3: You know, well, that is strange and it's just U.
Speaker 3: I remember you remember, Oh, what's his name, mister evil
Speaker 3: there CIA guy?
Speaker 11: Oh, yes, Ambassador Helms there, Just like he kept telling
Speaker 11: the Congress. I believed him when he kept saying, why
Speaker 11: are you bothering me about Oswald?
Speaker 3: He was a Navy officer. My understanding is the Navy
Speaker 3: should have dealt with him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you should have a few interesting see.
Speaker 3: But here I was like, oh, so, okay, so you're
Speaker 3: admitting he was an officer.
Speaker 11: Well, he was enlisted, so that could only mean that
Speaker 11: he was an intelligence officer.
Speaker 3: He's a security officer.
Speaker 4: Right, but I have a feeling that you you would
Speaker 4: actually be able to confirm something for me, Jimmy, uh,
Speaker 4: based on your own experience, even though I'm not saying
Speaker 4: you had any sort of experience in something like you
Speaker 4: know they might have used Oswald for But here's the thing.
Speaker 4: Just like when we see people that get attached to
Speaker 4: like see Navy CEO operations, they're not necessarily Navy seals.
Speaker 4: Sometimes they're plucked from other military organizations, are brought in
Speaker 4: for their specialization, and they do create teams on occasion
Speaker 4: for particular and specific operations. It seems rather unusual, and
Speaker 4: there's always a you know, a reminder of like listen,
Speaker 4: this is who's in charge. But they'll take specialized teams
Speaker 4: to do weird ops, and sometimes you'll have like up
Speaker 4: multiple branches involved in singular operations. Even though that seems
Speaker 4: to be contradictory to most things, that is part of
Speaker 4: the reality of certain special operations.
Speaker 3: You agree or disagree, well, you're absolutely correct.
Speaker 4: So here's the thing. If if the guy in charge
Speaker 4: of let's just say Oswald was involved in something because
Speaker 4: he had that crypto clearance and did work it, Atsugi
Speaker 4: and all that, let's just say that even though that's
Speaker 4: an air Force base, right or I think it was
Speaker 4: an air Force base. And remember he's a marine. He's
Speaker 4: at the air force base. Hello, see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You know, here's the thing. If the people that were
Speaker 4: in charge of the operation were actually Army intelligence, then
Speaker 4: there's a whole plethora of stuff that needs to be
Speaker 4: dug up that's probably got his name on it, that
Speaker 4: nobody's even bothered to ask for. And this will and this.
Speaker 3: The arm hand hasn't given up hardly anything. A bunch
Speaker 3: of crap from the Corps of Engineers. The most woman stopped.
Speaker 3: He interrogated Batman, where's his entire two A one file?
Speaker 3: It didn't just begin in nineteen sixty four? Crap?
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, kidding exactly. Well, and here's the funny part
Speaker 4: is that this heading on this thing is Oswald's to
Speaker 4: A one file, which is already problematic. I mean, I
Speaker 4: know Mary Ferrell has done their best to reconstruct the thing.
Speaker 4: But you know what version we had in like two thousand.
Speaker 3: And three, right, probably this version.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the two thousand and three version. But
Speaker 4: you know what this photograph that you that you're pointing
Speaker 4: out here was not in there. I know that this
Speaker 4: was not in there.
Speaker 3: You're saying that.
Speaker 11: Some stuff spent wasa has been rehadded since the twenty years.
Speaker 4: Yes, because right there that piece was not I would
Speaker 4: have I would have taken notice of that in two
Speaker 4: thousand and three because I was interviewing more than one
Speaker 4: person named Alvarez for my own projects in two thousand
Speaker 4: and three, I would have taken notice of that right there.
Speaker 6: At Sugi was actually a naval air station.
Speaker 4: Okay, not an Air Force base, if I stand.
Speaker 6: Correct with it being navel.
Speaker 4: That's why they have the Marines there, perfectly sensible, I
Speaker 4: stand corrected.
Speaker 11: Yeah, but the CIA is the CIA was running U
Speaker 11: two's which was also into boots with the Air Force,
Speaker 11: so they were kind of there also.
Speaker 4: Well right, but that's why he had to be given
Speaker 4: the crypto clearance that he was even a you know,
Speaker 4: able to recognize what their flight decks were and stuff
Speaker 4: like that, because that was all supposed to be secret,
Speaker 4: right as a radar operator.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Plus it's transmissions, I mean, now long will make.
Speaker 4: You get that. Well, there you go.
Speaker 3: It's amazing. Hay shouldn't have lost that clearance if he
Speaker 3: was going around punctching sergeants and shooting himself in the
Speaker 3: foot and whatnot another bizarre thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, only he only spent what eighteen days in the
Speaker 4: rig for shooting himself something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1: I mean, how did he not end up in them award? Well,
Speaker 1: he get in big trouble.
Speaker 3: I mean I witnessed the fool who shot himself in
Speaker 3: the foot did not go to Iraq, and I could
Speaker 3: tell you he got some very special treatment.
Speaker 1: And he was marine. I bet.
Speaker 3: See.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you something else about this fellow Marines, the
Speaker 4: Albarez that I knew it was an army intelligence sniper. So,
Speaker 4: and he was the guy who contacted He was Cuban, right, well,
Speaker 4: he was mixed. I would not reveal all of his nationality,
Speaker 4: but you know he was uh, he was mixed background.
Speaker 4: Spoke several languages though, including Portuguese.
Speaker 3: Oh that guy eight languages.
Speaker 4: That just church.
Speaker 3: Yeah okay, I know, Okay, So.
Speaker 4: That guy served on a team with my follow Yeah, whoa,
Speaker 4: So that's what I'm saying. That's what I was tracking
Speaker 4: down because they had taken they had taken army intelligence
Speaker 4: sniper teams and used them for observation domestically that happened.
Speaker 4: So I was trying to connect that because of course
Speaker 4: there's allegedly one that's president of King's assassination, by the way,
Speaker 4: who observed but did nothing, and then people made other
Speaker 4: claims about it, and then there turns into fireman over
Speaker 4: on top of the uh you know, on top of
Speaker 4: the firehouse. Maybe we're observing, or maybe we're there, or
Speaker 4: you know, a whole weird thing. You got to be
Speaker 4: careful with what William Pepper threw into the record during
Speaker 4: that uh civil suit, because I mean, that guy launched
Speaker 4: everything at all to see what would stick everything.
Speaker 3: Him and murk Lane, just him and mrk Lane. I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: but that trial in the nineties, I just I don't
Speaker 3: you know if that's worth.
Speaker 11: Just excluded if you're got research, That'm okay, that's just
Speaker 11: my opinion. I mean that's pretty much yeah garbage.
Speaker 4: Well, I think you could probably a civil.
Speaker 3: Trial, I mean, if you have where but all the rest,
Speaker 3: I'm like, uh, okay.
Speaker 4: Now I hear that. But here's the thing about it is,
Speaker 4: I think if you could independently develop uh some of
Speaker 4: that information, which is part of what I did, because
Speaker 4: there's more than there's more than that. Trials proof about
Speaker 4: the military intelligence sniper teams being used because civil unrest
Speaker 4: was something that you know, our federal government was preparing
Speaker 4: for in the sixties. They knew it was common, you know.
Speaker 11: They they when you say, when you say military snipers,
Speaker 11: do you mean all may proper or would you say
Speaker 11: national guard to a certain southern state?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: Specifically no, No, they okay, national guard were deployed, but
Speaker 4: national Guard were shown publicly. Covertly, there were army teams
Speaker 4: that were that were sent to certain what they called
Speaker 4: pressure points, that were specifically areas where they.
Speaker 11: Thought, wouldn't they be sent there like for uh, the
Speaker 11: same reason counter snipering, like the guy that shot the
Speaker 11: guy that was sap of Trump.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be their supposed purpose?
Speaker 4: That would have been that would have been their purpose.
Speaker 4: But their main objective was supposed to be for observation.
Speaker 4: They were collecting intelligence.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably both. Well, I believe it.
Speaker 4: There they were supposed to. That was their their orders given.
Speaker 4: And by the way, I saw some of those pieces
Speaker 4: of paperwork that were given to commit they were they
Speaker 4: were supposed to get rid of these things. Some of
Speaker 4: them did not. And I saw a paperwork saying that
Speaker 4: you're you're you know, you're there for your observational and
Speaker 4: strategic like, in other words, strategically explain to us how
Speaker 4: we're going to handle problems in this city, and you're
Speaker 4: going to observe it during certain times they were deploying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see what you're saying. John, You're saying, if
Speaker 3: they were there, why the hell didn't they shoot the sniper?
Speaker 3: They would have had to have seen them.
Speaker 6: Well, that's the thing, and three minute alarm.
Speaker 4: There you go. So it's a look. I'm not saying
Speaker 4: it's definitive. I started tracking it down because this guy
Speaker 4: Albarez told me he was there and at one point,
Speaker 4: and at one point I thought my father was, but
Speaker 4: he told me no. And when I finally figured out
Speaker 4: a certain timeline, I figured out that, you know, my
Speaker 4: father joined him after when they deployed them, after you know,
Speaker 4: after a bunch of stuff went to hell in sixty eight,
Speaker 4: they deployed a lot of extra guys and some of
Speaker 4: these sniper teams were redirected straight into Vietnam. That's when
Speaker 4: my father joins.
Speaker 3: So and then you got asked did they go did
Speaker 3: he actually go to Nam? Or one of the other
Speaker 3: countries where they don't. Now that's we word.
Speaker 1: Well now they do.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, Jimmy, no comment, you follow? Yeah, okay, I
Speaker 4: have knowledge. I'm not sharing. No, I'm not sharing it
Speaker 4: because somebody will have to verify things. Like in other words,
Speaker 4: if somebody makes a claim about something like that, I
Speaker 4: will know if they're lying to me. Okay, because I
Speaker 4: happen to know certain things that should not exist.
Speaker 6: Time alarm.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Anyways, Jimmy, we are we are done. I want
Speaker 4: to give you a final words for the week. God.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Rams are gonna lose.
Speaker 11: Because they destroyed the Pope's favorite team of the Bears.
Speaker 3: The Pope put a curse.
Speaker 1: And the Patriots will win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, there it is, Jimmy given the big prediction. Baby,
Speaker 4: I love that. So we're we're looking at a Patriots
Speaker 4: victory for the Super Bowl this year and the Rams
Speaker 4: are cursed for defeating the Bears. Hey, it's his prediction.
Speaker 4: Don't say nah, you.
Speaker 6: Don't know, aren't going to go You don't think that'll suck?
Speaker 4: Okay, you know how much I know about football at
Speaker 4: this point in time, like current players and everything.
Speaker 6: We gotta go with Seattle.
Speaker 4: I want to go with Seattle, but I got this
Speaker 4: sneaking suspicion the Rams are gonna win. I don't know why.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's because I just watched La win the World
Speaker 4: Series not long ago.
Speaker 6: You know it's because they cheat.
Speaker 4: Well that too, But listen, I love the Raiders when
Speaker 4: John Madden, Oh you kidding me. I loved watching those
Speaker 4: NFL films with John Madden running the Raiders. I loved
Speaker 4: the Dirty Raiders.
Speaker 6: No comment.
Speaker 4: All right, fair enough, VP. You gotta final word and
Speaker 4: we'll get out of here. I'll get right onto the
Speaker 4: Age of Transitions, which were now slightly late for But
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get Aaron Franz on because it's just after
Speaker 4: ten pm Eastern, So go ahead, man, final word.
Speaker 6: You Well, yeah, I'm glad everybody could make it this week.
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Speaker 4: Week, So there you go. There you go. Be careful
Speaker 4: of the thunder ice and a little prayer for the family.
Speaker 4: If you can't drop a little change in the bucket
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