Speaker 1: And we are alive.
Speaker 2: Today is Wednesday, October thirtieth, Hollows Eve, and we are
Speaker 2: here today with Donald Jeffries, author, Donald Jeffries of several books,
Speaker 2: actually starting with let's start with the most recent one,
Speaker 2: American Memory Hole.
Speaker 1: That's the most recent one, right, missus Jeffries.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yeah, Hidden History, Crimes and cover Ups
Speaker 2: in American politics, which you are all familiar with because
Speaker 2: we've been discussing it for the last four episodes, two
Speaker 2: hour episodes each, so we got a lot, got a
Speaker 2: lot covered there, Masking the Truth, Survival of the Richest Pipe,
Speaker 2: the Bimbo and Red and I can't tell if this
Speaker 2: one is yours?
Speaker 1: Is the unreal is yours?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: And then the bullyocurcy list goes on and on. Lots
Speaker 2: of interesting material here, and the first one I was
Speaker 2: encountered was Hidden History, and that I like the way
Speaker 2: it was set up because it's almost like essay style
Speaker 2: in the sense where you can get chunks when you're
Speaker 2: you know, you can get a lot out of it
Speaker 2: because there's it's broken out like that, and it's not something.
Speaker 1: I guess you have with crimes and cover ups.
Speaker 2: I've learned so much and I was very fascinated by
Speaker 2: that book, and I just wanted to I've been wanting
Speaker 2: to talk to you for a long time, so I'm
Speaker 2: glad that you're here today.
Speaker 1: And what would you like to start off with.
Speaker 2: I mean, you have this new book out, Let's let's
Speaker 2: discuss that a little bit. What it's about, what you're
Speaker 2: up to these days.
Speaker 3: Well, and thanks for the kind words, and it's always
Speaker 3: great to hear that. You know, people are enjoying are
Speaker 3: interested in what I write. Hidden History. As you mentioned,
Speaker 3: that's still by far my most popular book. You know,
Speaker 3: it's sold way more than all the others combined. That
Speaker 3: was my first nonfiction book and it covers most of
Speaker 3: myself on the jfcassassination. I got started down these rabbit
Speaker 3: holes as a teenager in the mid nineteen seventies working
Speaker 3: as a volunteer for Mark Lane Citizens Committee of Inquiry.
Speaker 3: Mark Lane was the most famous critic of the Warren Report,
Speaker 3: and he was kind of a high profile figure and
Speaker 3: he really inspired me to become a civil libertarian. Like him,
Speaker 3: I'm one of the few civilitarians left today. So people
Speaker 3: that read my substack and can see my take on
Speaker 3: things from the civil libertarian point of view, a free
Speaker 3: speech purist. But that covered the jfcassassination up to the
Speaker 3: Obama years. Because it was published in twenty fourteen, Donald
Speaker 3: Trump's name doesn't even appear, and I don't think because
Speaker 3: he wasn't on the political scene yet. Crimes and cover
Speaker 3: Ups in American Politics seventeen seventy sixth nineteen sixty three,
Speaker 3: which I was honored to have one of my heroes,
Speaker 3: Ron Paul right the forward for it. That's kind of
Speaker 3: the prequel to Hit in History. It goes from the
Speaker 3: beginning of the Republic, and as you mentioned Lincoln, there's
Speaker 3: a lot of that Lincoln in there. I was inspired
Speaker 3: by Thomas de Lorenzo in that regard and to look
Speaker 3: at Lincoln in a different way, and all the way
Speaker 3: up to like almost up to the Kennedy assassination, American
Speaker 3: memory all how the court historians promote this information. That's
Speaker 3: the new book. It's basically Hidden History three, and it's
Speaker 3: a combination of those two volumes. So you'll get a
Speaker 3: lot more about the JFK assassination, a lot more about
Speaker 3: what I think was the assassination of JFK Jr. Nine
Speaker 3: to eleven, Oklahoma, City all that, but it goes back
Speaker 3: to the beginning of the Republic. So we talk about
Speaker 3: Thomas Jefferson and judicial review, which I think is very important,
Speaker 3: and we go into Lincoln again. There's more about Lincoln.
Speaker 3: There's more about Grant, there's more about that. There's stuff
Speaker 3: about the Mexican American more. We talk a lot about
Speaker 3: Woodbrow Wilson and he's how he's the first high profile
Speaker 3: eugenesis in the public office, and all the foreign adventurism
Speaker 3: that took place in that era that's not reported. I mean,
Speaker 3: we were invading Mexico, We're invading Dominican Republic, Haiti. All
Speaker 3: that stuff was taking place in the teens and never
Speaker 3: been a report really. Then a lot more on FDR
Speaker 3: grade section on FDR. We talk about how he invented
Speaker 3: cancel culture, which he did. He was getting his enemies
Speaker 3: fired back in the nineteen thirties before World War Two
Speaker 3: for criticizing his policies. You know, they couldn't work anymore
Speaker 3: at the radio stations or newspapers or magazines of the day.
Speaker 3: Of course, he had Hollywood in his hip pocket. And
Speaker 3: we also have a good section on Joe McCarthy in
Speaker 3: the book. Where I continue what I wrote about in
Speaker 3: Crimes and cover Ups to try to restore his reputation.
Speaker 3: I think he's been unfairly treated, and hopefully I think
Speaker 3: more people will see him as a hero after reading
Speaker 3: what I wrote about him in the book.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I read a book called Saint Joseph of Wisconsin
Speaker 1: by Michael S. King that kind of opened that up
Speaker 1: for me a little bit too.
Speaker 2: And I would say there's a lot of parallels between
Speaker 2: Lincoln and FDR as well. I mean, forty thousand imprisoned
Speaker 2: or in the best deal, if you will, kind of
Speaker 2: gut it out all the honest journalists as they were reporting,
Speaker 2: you know, there anything that was against him, he was
Speaker 2: he was routing out, and then you have you have FDR.
Speaker 2: I mean, if he didn't intentionally or deliberately make the
Speaker 2: depression worse and continuous, then he's complete. More on I mean,
Speaker 2: if that wasn't deliberate, especially the price basing. There was
Speaker 2: people starving in America and he's out there killing cattle.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of there's a lot of
Speaker 2: really ridiculous things that were going on, especially the messing
Speaker 2: around with the gold. It was it was deliberate takedown.
Speaker 2: I see it as erosion from within, infiltration. I mean,
Speaker 2: if you see the people who surrounded him, you know,
Speaker 2: and and Wilson, you had Baruque. And then prior to
Speaker 2: this all, like when we're looking at the teens, as
Speaker 2: he said, like you have Louis brand eyes everywhere you
Speaker 2: have him his fingers aren't everything from the Federal Reserve
Speaker 2: Act all the way up to the battle for Declaration,
Speaker 2: which more or less was his doing, his his his structure,
Speaker 2: his layout, the Alpha basically just signed it. I mean
Speaker 2: there was I mean, I'm being a little exaggerating here,
Speaker 2: but the push was coming from here.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely. And you mentioned that the FDR and Lincoln
Speaker 3: they are connected in some way, and that's why I
Speaker 3: think Lincoln. I continue to stress so much about lik
Speaker 3: him because he was the first. He was and I say,
Speaker 3: he was the sixteenth president of the United States, and
Speaker 3: looking at the fifteen prior to him. Now, we took
Speaker 3: a much bigger look at James Polk in this book.
Speaker 3: Polk was actually the first president to overstep this constitutional boundary.
Speaker 3: I didn't really discuss him much in Crimes and cover Ups,
Speaker 3: but we go into a discussion of how he really
Speaker 3: broke the mold. I think Polk was maybe the thirteenth,
Speaker 3: fourteenth president, I'm not sure, or something like that, but
Speaker 3: all the presidents before. Whether you agree with him or not,
Speaker 3: you know, I certainly was no fan of the Federalists,
Speaker 3: but Josh Quincy Adams was a man of for instance,
Speaker 3: of great honor, brilliant intellect. And they never, whatever their
Speaker 3: differences were, they didn't overstep their constitutional boundaries. They didn't
Speaker 3: try to usurp authority and shatter the checks and balances
Speaker 3: because the Supreme Court had already done that. We discussed
Speaker 3: that in the book Under Marbury Versus Madison and John Marshall.
Speaker 3: They created a judicial review. And that's why these books,
Speaker 3: these hidden history books, are so important and relevant today
Speaker 3: because judicial review is a concept. I don't think anybody
Speaker 3: since Thomas Jefferson, who was warning against them, saying you
Speaker 3: can't do this, you can't let the Supreme warning at
Speaker 3: let these guys interpret what's constitutional or not. But from
Speaker 3: the very beginning he was shouted down, as he was
Speaker 3: on too many things, and I don't think anybody's made
Speaker 3: a big deal out of it till me. Whatever, however,
Speaker 3: many people read my book are going to learn something
Speaker 3: that hasn't been really talked about by anybody. Judicial review
Speaker 3: is a concept that is, when you look at Trump
Speaker 3: and law fair and all the prosecution of the politicized
Speaker 3: prosecutions January sixth, all that stuff, that all is red
Speaker 3: around the law their because it allowed the judiciary to
Speaker 3: have way more power than they're supposed to have. And
Speaker 3: then it shattered the checks and balances. And with Lincoln,
Speaker 3: he was the first imperial president. So you know, Polk
Speaker 3: started it by you know, his horrible war with Mexico,
Speaker 3: and you know, we did steal a lot of land
Speaker 3: California and all that. So groups like Louriza, although I
Speaker 3: certainly don't like them, they have a point. We did
Speaker 3: steal their land and so that was a disaster. It
Speaker 3: was foreign adventurism, even though it was in our backyard.
Speaker 3: And Lincoln took that a step further by just shattering
Speaker 3: the constitute, suspending the root of habeas corpus. As you noted,
Speaker 3: I don't know how many thousands of prisoners that he
Speaker 3: did lock up. I don't think there's really been an estimate.
Speaker 3: We clearly can't estimate estimate it. And you know, makeshift
Speaker 3: northern prisons. And these were not people that were secessionists.
Speaker 3: These were people that objected to his you know shutting
Speaker 3: you know, shutting down over two hundred newspapers, and objected
Speaker 3: to what he was doing, his you know, his tears.
Speaker 3: They weren't you know, they weren't joining the Confederacy, and
Speaker 3: they thought it was stupid to wage the war that
Speaker 3: he was doing and get all these people killed. And
Speaker 3: eventually almost a million people died, and Lincoln forever changed America.
Speaker 3: And so before the Civil War war during the States,
Speaker 3: the United States was plural. When people talked about the
Speaker 3: United States, they said, the United States are after the
Speaker 3: Civil War and forever all of this day, nobody does that.
Speaker 3: It's always the United States is we became a huge
Speaker 3: central government. All the states are connected. And most important
Speaker 3: thing that I tell people, if there was an underlying
Speaker 3: principle of the American Revolution, of the War for Independence,
Speaker 3: it was the consent of the governed. It was this
Speaker 3: revolutionary concept. And Thomas Jefferson read the Declaration of Independence.
Speaker 3: That's why it's not quoted to optimier leaders today because
Speaker 3: you know, it has right in there. Whenever the people
Speaker 3: grow tired of this of this government, that we're creating,
Speaker 3: they have the right to alter or abolish it. And
Speaker 3: so you know, it was very well there say you,
Speaker 3: if you don't like this, you abolish it. There's no way,
Speaker 3: shape or form did the founders intend for this union
Speaker 3: to be perpetual and involuntary. Lincoln, so what he did
Speaker 3: after he after waging his war, killing almost a million
Speaker 3: people and winning, you know, because of you know, war
Speaker 3: of attrition, which was you know, the great General Grant,
Speaker 3: you know, that's what he wore is and even that's
Speaker 3: what his philosophy was, to just kill the people killed
Speaker 3: because we had an advantage in numbers. So he won
Speaker 3: a war of attrition. Even Mary Todd Lincoln called him
Speaker 3: a beast because of you know what he was doing
Speaker 3: that he's getting so many men killed needlessly. But that
Speaker 3: was the strategy and why Lincoln loved him. But after that,
Speaker 3: at the end of that war, it should have been
Speaker 3: obvious to everyone that this this that the secessionists the
Speaker 3: Confederates didn't consent any longer in eighteen sixty one, and
Speaker 3: that's why they succeeded. So Lincoln proved that I don't
Speaker 3: care whether you consent or not, and I don't care
Speaker 3: Lincoln to hate it, the Founding Fathers. He especially hated
Speaker 3: Thomas Jefferson. I've wrote a lot about that, and I
Speaker 3: have quotes from it. There most almost no Americans know that.
Speaker 3: So he didn't have any respect for anything that Jefferson
Speaker 3: had written. He didn't have any respect for consent of
Speaker 3: the government. So after the war it was proven conclusively
Speaker 3: to every American citizen that no, you don't have to consent.
Speaker 3: We don't care if you consent, and this union is involuntary.
Speaker 3: So when you hear talk about secession today, I don't
Speaker 3: know what they're talking about. I mean, read my books.
Speaker 3: Look what Lincoln did. And if you think the government today,
Speaker 3: which is a million times more tyrannical, and it's a
Speaker 3: lot of that is due to the precedents that Lincoln said,
Speaker 3: as he was the first one really did tramp on
Speaker 3: the constitution. If you think they're going to let people
Speaker 3: succede that don't like this terry. Now that's it was
Speaker 3: proven again and then so few people realize that, and
Speaker 3: they still sometimes talk about consent of the government. I said,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, after eighteen sixty five, I don't
Speaker 3: believe you're still talking about that. Obviously they don't believe
Speaker 3: in that anymore because they did not have the consent
Speaker 3: of I don't know how many people were involved in Confederates,
Speaker 3: but you had thirteen states. I don't know if it
Speaker 3: added up to a million or millions, but a lot
Speaker 3: of people didn't consent, and they, you know, Lincoln unfortunately.
Speaker 3: And then when you have someone like Lincoln, was it
Speaker 3: real despot, our greatest tyrant? When he's considered your greatest
Speaker 3: statesman and he's the number one president according to the
Speaker 3: court historians, what does that tell you about our society?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And I mean I would I would say
Speaker 2: that there was a lot more that I wanted to
Speaker 2: learn about Jefferson Davis, Robert E.
Speaker 1: Lee.
Speaker 2: I picture them as being very noble men fighting for
Speaker 2: the true cause of the Constitution. And I also viewed
Speaker 2: the war itself as the end of the constitutional republic.
Speaker 2: I mean, there never been an act to Congress that
Speaker 2: actually reinstated habeas corpus or any of it. So it's
Speaker 2: technically just smoking mirrors.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: It's the impression that we have freedom until you try
Speaker 2: to exercise it, and that's that it becomes apparent whenever
Speaker 2: you're in court right, you know, So, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: and if like for.
Speaker 3: Instance of January sixth, and you look at what I
Speaker 3: think is the greatest modern outrage in terms of injustice
Speaker 3: when you look at the people that have been and
Speaker 3: I've had many of them on my show. I've had
Speaker 3: Ashley Bamit's mom on a couple of times talked about
Speaker 3: some of these people that the way they've been treated,
Speaker 3: and these are political prisoners and they have been denied
Speaker 3: all due process now for going on four years. And
Speaker 3: my point is being a civil libertarian is I was
Speaker 3: a card carrying member of the ACOU as a teenager.
Speaker 3: They were a completely different group than I was on
Speaker 3: way on the left. And if the ACOU was still
Speaker 3: concerned about civil liberties, which they're not obviously because they're
Speaker 3: quiet in the face this, and they did make cause
Speaker 3: of stirring, you know, and launch lawsuits and protests and
Speaker 3: everything against what's happening. And to the January sixth people,
Speaker 3: the what the government would do is they would cite
Speaker 3: Abraham Lincoln as a president, and they would cite the
Speaker 3: way he treated the Northern when he threw people in
Speaker 3: jail and suspended the rid of Habey's corpus and deny
Speaker 3: them all due process. They would say that, you know
Speaker 3: that with Lincoln had to face an insurrection and we
Speaker 3: were faced with an insurrection too, And that's exactly what
Speaker 3: they would do. And that's why it's so important to
Speaker 3: look at all the horrible things that Lincoln did. I mean,
Speaker 3: George W. Bush's attorney cited Lincoln's the treatment of the
Speaker 3: Northern prisoners as a as a president for the way
Speaker 3: the prisoners were treated at Guantano Bay and albu Grad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this kind of opened up the.
Speaker 2: Kind of open up the doors to progressivism, which I
Speaker 2: see as being an erosion as well. And I mean
Speaker 2: when we're looking at things that have been named Lincoln
Speaker 2: since then, very communistic, socialist, Abraham Lincoln brigade, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean it kind of it kind of points to
Speaker 2: what he was really about. But people don't get it
Speaker 2: because it's inverted. Everything is everything means the opposite, Right,
Speaker 2: What was your impression? And I found it very symbolic
Speaker 2: the year that Trump and moved the fourth of July
Speaker 2: celebration to the Lincoln.
Speaker 1: Memorial as if to say more of the same.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're right exactly. And then let you're not,
Speaker 3: you know, Trump is maybe that's a whole different subject people,
Speaker 3: but if they go to my sub stack they can
Speaker 3: find I mean, I came up with this thing called
Speaker 3: the Trump and Stein project, That's what I call it.
Speaker 3: And I'm a Trump Trump and Stein project. And I
Speaker 3: think he was a monster, an actor that was He's
Speaker 3: an actor playing a role that he was. He was
Speaker 3: created and so you know, as a political figure to
Speaker 3: divide the country, which he's done incredibly well. And he's
Speaker 3: still you know, he's still created. He's like Goldstein in
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty four, Emmanuel Goldstein is actually they had a
Speaker 3: two minute hate there for him. We have a twenty
Speaker 3: four to seven hate for the millions of people that
Speaker 3: have Trump Trange incenderme. I'm a Trump agnostic with one
Speaker 3: of the smallest, probably the smallest group in the world.
Speaker 3: So I look at him, you know, really in an
Speaker 3: unbiased way, which nobody does. And uh so, you know,
Speaker 3: he's he's all the right enemies. But I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: not fooled by him and something like that. He's really
Speaker 3: just following the Republican party line in turn, even though
Speaker 3: he seems to be you know, you know, fractured from
Speaker 3: the Republican Party establish it. He he is not going
Speaker 3: to go against Lincoln. Nobody's going to go against Lincoln.
Speaker 3: To play Lincoln is the secular saying of our civilization.
Speaker 3: He was the first Republican. Until that time, they had
Speaker 3: the the Whigs and the Democrat Republicans. The Whigs were
Speaker 3: the old Federalists. So Lincoln, I mean, took those old
Speaker 3: Federalists and they just called them Republicans. Then they started
Speaker 3: calling the other party Democrats instead of Democrat Republicans. But
Speaker 3: because of that, and because he's considered so great by
Speaker 3: the court historians, every Republican revers him. You know, Abraham Lincoln,
Speaker 3: this and that. The fact that he's on Mount Rushmore
Speaker 3: with Jefferson and Washington and Teddy Roosevel on another figure
Speaker 3: who I talked to be crimes and cover ups, who's
Speaker 3: another warmonger and genuine racist. You look at some of
Speaker 3: the comments that guy left behind on the public record
Speaker 3: of men, Indians and so forth. But those, you know, Jefferson,
Speaker 3: especially when would not want to belong with those other people.
Speaker 3: Jefferson would be appalled at someone like Lincoln or or Roosevelt.
Speaker 3: But because that it's entirely in character for Trump or
Speaker 3: anyone else, any other Republican is going to Gomer whatever
Speaker 3: member of the Freedom Caucus or maybe not Thomas Massey.
Speaker 3: I like it because he's my favorite congressman. I don't
Speaker 3: know if he's awake on Lincoln or not. I don't know,
Speaker 3: it'd be it'd be a hard thing to I know
Speaker 3: Ron Paul is obviously because he wrote the four into
Speaker 3: my book, but I don't know anybody else in Congress
Speaker 3: it is. And but they're going to because he's a Republican.
Speaker 3: Lincoln he's so that's an advertisement for the Republican Party.
Speaker 3: We have Lincoln. You know, he's the greatest. And if
Speaker 3: you've noticed the the tendency in recent years, even among
Speaker 3: people that I like, like Jason Whitlock, the black podcaster,
Speaker 3: I love him as Fearless podcast. I think he's one
Speaker 3: of the best social commentators out there today. He's very refreshing.
Speaker 3: He tells the truth about race that no white figure could.
Speaker 3: But he has the view of the Civil War that
Speaker 3: a lot of the right does. Now, I mean that
Speaker 3: that's basically they blame everything on the Democrats. So they say,
Speaker 3: you know, the Republicans, they're the ones that wanted to
Speaker 3: free the slaves, and they fought the war to free
Speaker 3: the slaves, which we know that war.
Speaker 2: Wasn't exactly but conquer bankers were just like a true
Speaker 2: rom languid, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that and that. But that's what Republicans today,
Speaker 3: and I hear him all the time. The Democrats do that.
Speaker 3: The Democrats wanted slavery, and the Democrats and again use well,
Speaker 3: the parties were inverted at that point, so the Democrats
Speaker 3: would have been the more conservatives and the Republicans. You
Speaker 3: have the radical Republicans who were so radical that Lincoln
Speaker 3: wasn't radical on a foe of them. And I have
Speaker 3: a big section on the Lincoln assassination and crimes and
Speaker 3: cover ups. I do think that was an inside job.
Speaker 3: I think he was killed by his own administration, probably
Speaker 3: led by Secretary of War Stanton, who seems to have
Speaker 3: been pretty much a lunatic. You know that was in
Speaker 3: there and fit right into he'd fit right in today.
Speaker 3: But so I think that unfortunately Trump is Trump is
Speaker 3: never He's never going to say anything inst Abraham licoln
Speaker 3: that's just nobody is no public. You saw what happened.
Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson had a guy on I forget to say it,
Speaker 3: maybe a month ago or so, and he he said
Speaker 3: something about Churchill and said called Churchill a villain or
Speaker 3: something like that, which he was. And boy, the everything
Speaker 3: the world came down on him, came down on Tucker
Speaker 3: for having him on. So if he had said that's
Speaker 3: for Churchill, it's not even you know, an American. So
Speaker 3: imagine what would happen if somebody had the nerve to
Speaker 3: say that about Lincoln. And that's why Thomas ste Lorenzo's
Speaker 3: such an important I had him on my show a
Speaker 3: couple of months ago as honored to finally have him
Speaker 3: on to talk to him. But I pay homage to
Speaker 3: him all the time because he's the one that opened
Speaker 3: my eyes. Lincoln was a hero to me, like he
Speaker 3: used to everybody else for a long time. And it
Speaker 3: was only after reading, well, actually I read The South
Speaker 3: was Right first, which is by the I think the
Speaker 3: Donald Brothers, which is in the public library. I couldn't
Speaker 3: believe that. I said, what is this? The South is
Speaker 3: Right with an exclamation point. That's what turned me when
Speaker 3: I started realizing. I read about the anecdotal ebanin of
Speaker 3: what Lincoln was doing to people and I said, wow,
Speaker 3: this is incredible. You know, I just never realized that before.
Speaker 3: I thought Lincoln was a hero like everybody else. And
Speaker 3: so once you do that, it's hard to it's hard
Speaker 3: to close that door, you know, once you open it,
Speaker 3: and it connects so many other things, because again, Lincoln
Speaker 3: is the is the precedent for so much of this stuff.
Speaker 3: Woodrow Wilson was inspired by Lincoln, even though again he's
Speaker 3: a Democrat. FDR inspired by Lincoln, even though again he's
Speaker 3: a Democrat. And all the way through today where somebody
Speaker 3: like Trump, who's the face of the opposition, supposedly goes
Speaker 3: to the Lincoln memorial. And that's that's the problem. When
Speaker 3: you have people and you still see conservatives talk about Washington.
Speaker 3: They may throw Jefferson in Washington, Jefferson Lincoln, and they
Speaker 3: always throw Lincoln. And they're no, No, that's like an
Speaker 3: SAT question, you know, or an IQ test question. Which
Speaker 3: of these don't belong. Lincoln doesn't belong their Lincoln contradicts
Speaker 3: them because he he did not believe I mean Lincoln's
Speaker 3: And then you know, if I'm reading crimes and cover ups,
Speaker 3: I mean, there's evidence Lincoln was an atheist to the
Speaker 3: extent that he actually supposedly wrote a rebuttal to the
Speaker 3: New Testament when he was a young man, and when
Speaker 3: he entered politics, his advisors you know, made him burn it.
Speaker 3: They said, people find out about this is going to
Speaker 3: stroy your political career. Is that mean? And c was gay,
Speaker 3: That's why he had the long common Republicans. And again
Speaker 3: that may not matter, but in terms of of what
Speaker 3: kind of political figure he was, but for the Conservatives
Speaker 3: to embrace him.
Speaker 2: You could be easily compromised too if there was a
Speaker 2: secret that wasn't to be let out.
Speaker 3: Absolutely yeah, and he you know, there's there's I mean,
Speaker 3: and I don't know if it's in because you know, people,
Speaker 3: I hope you know, people will read an American memory
Speaker 3: hole because it's a lot of this stuff has continued
Speaker 3: from crimes and cover ups in there. I don't know
Speaker 3: if it was in crimes and cover ups or this
Speaker 3: one where I published the letter which is in mainstream media,
Speaker 3: not the letter. The published the story mainstream media from
Speaker 3: the family the descendants of William Hendon or Herndon, who
Speaker 3: was Lincoln's law partner, and they talk about how in
Speaker 3: their family, you know, it's this is tradition or old
Speaker 3: tradition in their family that their you know, great great
Speaker 3: great grandfather whenever and Lincoln were lovers. This is what
Speaker 3: they think. That's what they think. But yeah, it may
Speaker 3: not matter, but it just shows how morally compromised he
Speaker 3: was in terms of of that and so many other things.
Speaker 3: But really people can read, you know, and you've obviously
Speaker 3: talked about it, but the his you know, he sets
Speaker 3: so many horrible examples. And again I can't stress enough
Speaker 3: when when you're this, this is the guy he's basically
Speaker 3: it's like if you have a football team or a
Speaker 3: franchise and a lot of these people like you know,
Speaker 3: say the Cleveland Browns when they signed to Shawn Watson
Speaker 3: of that ridiculous contract and when he had like thirty
Speaker 3: some accusations from women or for sexual assault, that's the
Speaker 3: face of your franchise. So what does that say about
Speaker 3: your franchise if that's the guy you choose to be
Speaker 3: the same thing with Lincoln is the face of the
Speaker 3: American franchise? What does it say about our civilization that
Speaker 3: that guy is Shaun Watson of the entire country? You know,
Speaker 3: they were this is the one you go to. He's
Speaker 3: our greatest statesman. And they still quote the Gettysburg Address
Speaker 3: like it. You know, as hl Mencon, one of the
Speaker 3: great classical liberals, was there. He looked at it like,
Speaker 3: I do you know that this beautiful poetry. I mean
Speaker 3: Lincoln could turn a phrase. He could. He could, That's
Speaker 3: what you know. Excited me and so many others because
Speaker 3: he knew how to you know, say things. But you
Speaker 3: know so but when he had that little speech, it
Speaker 3: sounds beautiful on the surface, but like Meccan says, what
Speaker 3: is he He's tine. He's basically celebrating the suppression of
Speaker 3: government other people, by the people and for the people,
Speaker 3: because his entire, his entire war effort was stopping people
Speaker 3: who wanted to set up their own government, who wanted
Speaker 3: to govern themselves the consent of the government. So the
Speaker 3: guttabers are address you're talking about fake news or a
Speaker 3: big lie. And that's considered the greatest address all the
Speaker 3: time for people like Gary Wills and court historians that
Speaker 3: write a that wrote a book about how you know,
Speaker 3: the Guintysburg Address transformed our nation and it did for
Speaker 3: but not for the better, because again people made a
Speaker 3: second they're saying that to this guy, and they celebrated
Speaker 3: those beautiful words that were again they were they were
Speaker 3: they were talking about stopping a people from setting up
Speaker 3: a government that they wanted, that they that no longer
Speaker 3: consented to our government. That's what then. So he was saying,
Speaker 3: government of the people, by the people, for the people
Speaker 3: shall not perish from the earth. It's beautiful set, you know,
Speaker 3: beautiful words, but it's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It's inverticuous.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's in the exact opposite.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what what you said about what
Speaker 2: he did in dividing and killing. I mean, no matter
Speaker 2: what side you're on, if you're fighting him against Americans,
Speaker 2: Americans are dying on both sides. Department of Defense fifty
Speaker 2: two to forty point zero one is in the same vein,
Speaker 2: I mean, utilizing, you know, bypassing past posse commentatus and
Speaker 2: then going straight to war on Americans. And it's like,
Speaker 2: what do do lincn do? Isn't that the same thing?
Speaker 2: Didn't he utilize the military against American people?
Speaker 3: I mean, And that's and that's what if if we
Speaker 3: ever got to that, if we if he what the
Speaker 3: conservatives think might happen, you know, if they ever used
Speaker 3: trying to use armed troops or whatever to come and
Speaker 3: get us. I mean again, they're they're Lincoln did that.
Speaker 3: He already did that. He arrested in Clement Valendingham, you know,
Speaker 3: forgotten congressmen I wrote about in Crimes and cover Ups.
Speaker 3: You know, it was it was his greatest critic in
Speaker 3: the North. He arrested him and he sent troops to
Speaker 3: his house in the middle of the night and they
Speaker 3: arrested him.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well and and he uh, you know they they
Speaker 3: arrested people in church there they I mean, this is
Speaker 3: you thinkin yeah, I think and how and of course
Speaker 3: my favorite story is how and people are always amazed,
Speaker 3: And I think this is, you know, quintessential hidden history.
Speaker 3: One of is probably the most celebrated prisoner that he
Speaker 3: just threw into makeshift prison was Frank Frank Key Howard,
Speaker 3: who was Franciscott Key's grandson, right. Uh And and and
Speaker 3: I don't think he I think he knew what he
Speaker 3: was doing. He chose Fort McHenry. He threw him in
Speaker 3: Fortanly Kendry, which is the same prison from which you
Speaker 3: know Francis A. Key looked out the window and saw
Speaker 3: the star spangled Bonner saw that the flag and wrote
Speaker 3: the star spangled Manner. Do you I mean, how many
Speaker 3: Americans do you think know that his grandson was locked
Speaker 3: up in the same prison for opposing Lincoln's policies by
Speaker 3: Lincoln and denied all due process. Those are the kind
Speaker 3: of things that if when you tell people they look
Speaker 3: at you, you know, I mean, the people that are
Speaker 3: kind of awake and look at you, then they're they're
Speaker 3: just it changes the way they look at things. But
Speaker 3: the people that obviously are sleep there, they don't believe it.
Speaker 3: They can't accept that. Oh's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Oh one else has never said that to me and
Speaker 1: closed because nobody else purpose, you.
Speaker 3: Know, exactly like you know, when I was writing Crimes
Speaker 3: and cover Ups, I think the most amazing thing I discovered.
Speaker 3: I have a great research team. Chris Grays and Peter C.
Speaker 3: Gosh are incredible and they did so much. They did
Speaker 3: much more work at American Memoryhills. A lot of that
Speaker 3: information is to be credited to them that they found.
Speaker 3: But I found this on my own. I think Crimes
Speaker 3: and cover when I was just looking at looking at
Speaker 3: Wilson and uh, I I discovered you know, I was
Speaker 3: I was looking at you know, his throwing World War
Speaker 3: One protesters in prison, like Eugene Dev's a great socialist
Speaker 3: and any others. And they sued, you know, and took
Speaker 3: it to they appealed and took it to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 3: And Oliver Winblholmes, great liberal. You know what I did,
Speaker 3: one of our iconic Supreme Court justice is like Lincoln
Speaker 3: is he's a heroic figure. Of course he's eugenicis like
Speaker 3: most of them all. And of course pro war to
Speaker 3: the hilt. He backed World War One. Is just like
Speaker 3: Clarence Darrow, the great liberal, just same thing, eugenesis pro
Speaker 3: war guy.
Speaker 2: And uh, that's a big point where that's a huge point,
Speaker 2: the whole eugenesis thing, because that pull that comes Darwinism,
Speaker 2: that's the start of the destruction of true medical medical science.
Speaker 2: When he had Pastor over there with his frauds. I mean,
Speaker 2: this all culminates to It's not it's not even so
Speaker 2: much about the money and the selling of you know, inoculations.
Speaker 2: It was more about the destruction and the controlling of people,
Speaker 2: right as Zach.
Speaker 3: But that that's where what I and I did. I
Speaker 3: didn't know this, So if I didn't know it. I
Speaker 3: don't know if anybody in America knew it, but that's
Speaker 3: I looked at. When I was reading about it, I discovered, Hey,
Speaker 3: you know that we all believe in free speech, but
Speaker 3: you can't yell fire in a crowded theater. Well that's
Speaker 3: where that came from. Oliver Wenlolmes made up that phrase,
Speaker 3: and I thought, wait a minute, he's talking. He's defending
Speaker 3: by defending Woodrow Wilson's right to throw World War One
Speaker 3: protesters in prison. He came up with that phrase, and
Speaker 3: and I tried to point out to people and interviews,
Speaker 3: whatever you think about that, Eugene Debs and all the
Speaker 3: other World War One protesters, they weren't yelling fire in
Speaker 3: a crowded theater. See, So he was equating protesting something
Speaker 3: the government was doing to yelling fire and a crowded theater.
Speaker 3: So again, that's a precedent that and I don't think
Speaker 3: it's been used directly, because they do say they use
Speaker 3: the you can't ye'll fire in a crowded theater over
Speaker 3: and over again to suppress free speech, but they don't
Speaker 3: know where it came from. Because I didn't even know
Speaker 3: where it came from. That's where it original people until
Speaker 3: nineteen eighteen and whatever year the that was that ruling
Speaker 3: was made. No, there were no asterisks on the First Amendment.
Speaker 3: Nobody ever said, well, you can't say this, You can't
Speaker 3: ye'll fire in a crowded theater. And what why can't
Speaker 3: you yell fire in a crowded theater? What if there's
Speaker 3: a fire? I mean, it's like you know you, I mean,
Speaker 3: the whole thing is. But people do it all the time.
Speaker 3: And now because of that, it's graduated to the fight
Speaker 3: for spree speech today. So you have an entire party.
Speaker 3: You have Kamala Harris, you have Tim Wallas, you have
Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton wanting to prosecute disinformation and John Carey who said,
Speaker 3: you know, this First Amendment it makes it hard to govern.
Speaker 3: We can't govern. Yeah, you can't govern like tyrants. All
Speaker 3: of them are running against the First Amendment. And they
Speaker 3: all say they don't say they don't talk about the
Speaker 3: yelling fire and credit theater as much. But usually they
Speaker 3: because they come up with the Orwellian term hate speech,
Speaker 3: which is thoughtful, but so they use that all the time. Well,
Speaker 3: the First Amendment doesn't cover hate speech? What And there's
Speaker 3: nobody on the other side to say, what are you
Speaker 3: talking about?
Speaker 1: What does that even mean?
Speaker 3: The word hate doesn't appear in the constitution. Hate speech
Speaker 3: isn't impossible to quantify term. It's based on emotion.
Speaker 1: It's not too you know, it's subjective.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, it's totally subjective. But again, you don't have
Speaker 3: an a c l U that cares. You don't have
Speaker 3: civil libertarians. So how many people and the people that
Speaker 3: are fighting for free speech today are largely right wing Republicans,
Speaker 3: but they have their own problem because they're so sworn
Speaker 3: devoted to Israel that you know, Donald Trump and Rod
Speaker 3: DeSantis people, they want to outlaw anti Semitism. What I
Speaker 3: get an impossible term to quantify.
Speaker 1: Anybody anybody can say, well, anti Zionism is or anti
Speaker 1: you know, war protest is. We can we can make
Speaker 1: it up as we go along.
Speaker 2: If if we find that you're the center to our
Speaker 2: plan and you're stirring things up on social media, you're
Speaker 2: an anti Semitie, just like you're a racist.
Speaker 1: We call you a racist, right right, And.
Speaker 3: That's so it's it's it's a it's a it's difficult
Speaker 3: to be a free speech purist now as I am
Speaker 3: and that's why you know, people that read me on subsack,
Speaker 3: I write about this stuff a lot, and there's and
Speaker 3: that's why I think substack is so important because at
Speaker 3: least for now.
Speaker 1: Or subsec I mean that, yeah, Donald.
Speaker 3: Jeffries, Donald Jeffries dot subsac dot com. It's called I Protest.
Speaker 3: That's I actually have two substacks. One of them got
Speaker 3: created accidentally, but you'll find the other. The primary one
Speaker 3: is I Protest Donald Jeffries a subsac dot com, and
Speaker 3: I'm growing there so I have a fairly big following.
Speaker 3: That's the only place I'm being allowed to grow because
Speaker 3: I'm shadow band.
Speaker 2: Everywhere else that shoe is being posted to or is
Speaker 2: it a different thing, like do you have it on
Speaker 2: YouTube or some other place where you can find your
Speaker 2: other shows or whatever?
Speaker 3: Oh my show. I have a podcast called my Protest
Speaker 3: that airs every Friday five to seven pm Eastern and
Speaker 3: uh that when my YouTube channel isn't suspended, which it
Speaker 3: is a lot. They're always, you know, claiming I had
Speaker 3: medical misinformation or speech or some ridiculous nonsense. But I
Speaker 3: don't know. Last week I wasn't able to live stream,
Speaker 3: but typically I live stream the show every Friday from
Speaker 3: five seven on YouTube because that's where I get the
Speaker 3: biggest audience, and I also do whatever Twitter X, my twics.
Speaker 3: You can call me at Don Jefferies. And since Elon
Speaker 3: Musk has gone there, I don't think he's really a
Speaker 3: champion for free speech, but it is better under him.
Speaker 3: My shadow man is better.
Speaker 1: Israel too, So yeah, exactly, they all are.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the thing. They all have that exemption.
Speaker 3: But uh so, I you may be able, you should
Speaker 3: be able to follow me there at Don Jefferies, but
Speaker 3: again they hold my numbers down there as well. And
Speaker 3: I also we also go live on rockfend dot Com,
Speaker 3: the America and channel at rock Fan and also Rumble.
Speaker 3: We're trying to go there as well, so the America
Speaker 3: Unplugged Chalet Rombo, so lots of places to find and then,
Speaker 3: but it probably gets heard way more in archived form
Speaker 3: because the shows go up on Alex Jones's band dot
Speaker 3: video now, so that has a much bigger audience obviously
Speaker 3: than I do. And Jeff Renz's network is pretty big too.
Speaker 3: He airs rerounds of my show as well, so people
Speaker 3: can find them everywhere. And but you know, Subseac is
Speaker 3: where I think, at least now it's it's it's a
Speaker 3: genuine free speech platform and I haven't seen any indication
Speaker 3: yet that they're trying to suppress what I'm doing. But
Speaker 3: that's as a free speech purist, I find that, you know,
Speaker 3: very important that we need to be able because I
Speaker 3: when I'm writing something there, I don't hold back, and
Speaker 3: so far they haven't said anything to me, you know,
Speaker 3: you can't do this or you can't do that. And
Speaker 3: I think it's important to push the envelope there because
Speaker 3: we can't. We can't give way on it. And the
Speaker 3: thing it's interesting now whether there's no point in our
Speaker 3: history when we've had more people that are awake to
Speaker 3: what's going on. Unfortunately, there's so many people that were
Speaker 3: still outnumbered. There's so many people that are asleep and
Speaker 3: are entrenched. Like I, I mean, it looks like I'm
Speaker 3: arguing for Donald Trump, but I'm not really. It's just
Speaker 3: that Donald Trump is being propped up as the opposition
Speaker 3: to the state, So of course I oppose the state too,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't. I don't really think Donald Trump does.
Speaker 3: But so it looks like I'm defending Hi when somebody
Speaker 3: was calling him an enemy of the state the other day,
Speaker 3: you know, and I went on to X and I said, well,
Speaker 3: I don't I don't understand, So do you do you
Speaker 3: support the state? You support this corruption and tyranny, and he,
Speaker 3: you know, he just gave me some gobbledygook answer about
Speaker 3: how Trump was a fascist or something. It's so stupid,
Speaker 3: but that's the uh and it's where we So I
Speaker 3: try to engage people on that level, and it looks like,
Speaker 3: you know, because I'm trying to say, you know, what,
Speaker 3: what is it you hate about Trump? To try to
Speaker 3: get them to understand that they're reacting to stimuli because
Speaker 3: they don't. The big secret about Trump, as I've said
Speaker 3: for both sides, is that he you know, people millions
Speaker 3: of people hate him for things he never did, and
Speaker 3: millions of people love him for things he never did.
Speaker 3: He was basically the tweeter in chief, you know, and
Speaker 3: he just he just sound and fury, signifying nothing but
Speaker 3: as a symbol, as a symbolic gesture. I don't say.
Speaker 3: I don't think they're counting the votes honestly, but if
Speaker 3: you want to vote for Trump, excuse me, I may
Speaker 3: do it again myself. I don't think they're count but
Speaker 3: on the out dancing are because I think at the
Speaker 3: best point this, at this point, probably the best hope
Speaker 3: we can thing I can with any of us can
Speaker 3: hope for is to get some entre payment value out
Speaker 3: of it. Trump getting into office again would be great,
Speaker 3: you know, entertainment. It would be watching Hollywood explode and
Speaker 3: watching the people on TV. I think that, I think
Speaker 3: that's the best we can So I don't I don't,
Speaker 3: you know, tell anybody they shouldn't vote for Trump because
Speaker 3: he to the whatever extent the votes are being counted,
Speaker 3: it still is a giant figure to the estout to
Speaker 3: the to the establishment because for you know, again, I
Speaker 3: think this is a Trumpet signed project. They're involved, they're
Speaker 3: all involved in it, but not everybody is involved in
Speaker 3: Most people are reacting to the stimulus. They're reacting to
Speaker 3: Trump's personality the way it was intended. They want you
Speaker 3: to hate or love him. That's why they have so Uh,
Speaker 3: most of those people are are going to react accordingly.
Speaker 3: If he gets in there, they're going to act there.
Speaker 3: You know, they actually think that, you know, this guy
Speaker 3: is Hitler and they think he's he uh, he's going
Speaker 3: to lock up his enemies and prosecute his enemies, which
Speaker 3: is just what has been happening under Biden. But somehow
Speaker 3: they did don't seem to sense that irony. But at
Speaker 3: any rate, that's a substack, is is I think all
Speaker 3: you can and anybody subscribes you there ars you appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nick, is there anything you want to add right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I definitely think the author is right when he talks
Speaker 5: about how they deify Lincoln, because when I went to that,
Speaker 5: i'll call it a shrine. It might as well have
Speaker 5: been a shrine. It was his birthplace. And that's the
Speaker 5: feeling that you get when you go there, is they
Speaker 5: deify this person like a god on earth. To them,
Speaker 5: it's the damned this thing and you look at it.
Speaker 5: Was also interesting he brought up one of the labor
Speaker 5: leader's names who was arrested for protests in.
Speaker 3: World War One, Eugene Debs.
Speaker 4: Eugene Debs.
Speaker 5: Eugene Debs is also one of the ones that I
Speaker 5: see a lot when I go into these halls, as
Speaker 5: far as labor leaders like Samuel Gompers and mister Solomon
Speaker 5: Strauss and all them, and they just so happened to
Speaker 5: sit on the Board of Trustees on that plaque that
Speaker 5: I sent you, Daniel, Yeah, I find that very odd.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the that's the plaque that's devoted to Lincoln. Correct,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what we're looking at.
Speaker 4: Yes, it is at his birthplace here in Kentucky.
Speaker 1: William Taffers right on top. There's a hoop just underneath it.
Speaker 1: And then you have a first porter.
Speaker 2: But I mean, yeah, you see Oscar Strauss, fourth name
Speaker 2: on it, Samuel Clemen, and it goes on and on
Speaker 2: and on, and Augusta's Belmont.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was a rough agent, all of them pretty much.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's it's just very strange to see the
Speaker 5: people who have clamored onto his legacy and surround that.
Speaker 4: It is just very odd to me.
Speaker 2: They saw I mean, regardless of the truth or the
Speaker 2: or the facts, it's more about the image and in
Speaker 2: the symbol.
Speaker 1: And then they utilize that as a as a as
Speaker 1: a tool.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: So I mean, and I'm gonna say this because I've
Speaker 2: been doing some more research on Lincoln.
Speaker 1: If you want to talk about.
Speaker 2: Like I'm I have to call them only based here,
Speaker 2: But there was a sanhedrin around Lincoln. I mean there
Speaker 2: there was a literal, he had an awful lot around them,
Speaker 2: and that this whole apac element that we're dealing with
Speaker 2: it since since the time we've had a broads child
Speaker 2: bank in this country and we've and after Civil War happened,
Speaker 2: this idea of America is not is not real. And
Speaker 2: I see us as being Israel before Israel was Israel.
Speaker 2: It's just not it's just not out in the open,
Speaker 2: and it's the same. It's it's more of a banking
Speaker 2: entity than anything else. But anywhere else you see, like
Speaker 2: the United Nations, everything that we created funding the Bolsheviks,
Speaker 2: how is that America? And it plays and and it's
Speaker 2: in service to the banking into you know, that's that's
Speaker 2: where it goes. So I don't know if Trump or Kamala,
Speaker 2: this to me is like Jesuit theater. What I see
Speaker 2: is this is just how they introduce new ideas into
Speaker 2: the public. So they just they changed faces and they
Speaker 2: have you know, dramas, but in reality, one way or
Speaker 2: the other, they're going to their goal. So they're going
Speaker 2: to introduce this new anti Semitism thing because Trump is
Speaker 2: the one that's talking about it. Now, it's going to
Speaker 2: be more lack of free speech and more jail for
Speaker 2: people who are innocent of any crime.
Speaker 1: And that's what I fear. I mean, especially what I
Speaker 1: talk about.
Speaker 2: If you can, if you can talk, and if you
Speaker 2: can speak historical truth, you're gonna come out sounding like
Speaker 2: you're you're a candidate for what Trump is talking about,
Speaker 2: which he also said death penalty.
Speaker 3: So I mean, yes, yes, and you're right, And that's
Speaker 3: the that's the unfortunate part of what has happened to
Speaker 3: the right, because the right, the right is is you know,
Speaker 3: gets it on so many things. Now they're more awake
Speaker 3: than ever on a lot of things, but they are
Speaker 3: they're sound asleep. And the Israel question, the anti they're
Speaker 3: you know, back in the day, like Pat Buchanan, you
Speaker 3: remember Pat Buchantta one of my heroes, who was, you know,
Speaker 3: one of the biggest critics of Israel, and he had
Speaker 3: a platform in CNN for a while and crossfire and everything,
Speaker 3: and he ran for president so forth he was attacked,
Speaker 3: but he talked about the culture war and how we
Speaker 3: were losing and obviously was right about that. Great stuff.
Speaker 3: And but you know that was when the left for
Speaker 3: what was still in support. They were still watching Exodus,
Speaker 3: you know, with Paul Newman, the Ridiculous movie, back when
Speaker 3: they glamorized Israel's birth and so forth and made it
Speaker 3: into a Hollywood saying. But at some point, and I
Speaker 3: don't know when it was, maybe fifteen years ago, maybe twenty,
Speaker 3: the left, those roles changed, and suddenly the right was
Speaker 3: in the lockstep with Israel and they became absolute supporters.
Speaker 3: And now the criticism of Israel comes from the left,
Speaker 3: and they come from people like that squad, and like
Speaker 3: the Palestinian students and so forth and so and you see,
Speaker 3: and these are all people. I know that, you know
Speaker 3: when I'm looking at the squad. But I say, okay,
Speaker 3: you know, Olhan Olmer was right to say that Rashid
Speaker 3: to Talim. I mean, I know she hates white people.
Speaker 3: I know these these she hates whites. I understand that.
Speaker 3: But she's you know, she's right about Israel. And that's
Speaker 3: where we are now. Where you saw it was interesting
Speaker 3: when all the Palestinians, not just Palactinians, lots of whites
Speaker 3: and lots of people, lots of non whites too, that
Speaker 3: objected to what was happening in Gaza when they started
Speaker 3: demonstrating then it was suddenly the right that that that
Speaker 3: wanted to shut them down. They wanted to cancel those people.
Speaker 3: And you had, you know, Jewish businessmen that were making
Speaker 3: calls to Harvard and doxing those students and saying they
Speaker 3: should ever be hired anywhere. And that's exactly what the
Speaker 3: left had done to the right for some and conservatives
Speaker 3: rightfully objected that on college campuses, how many you know,
Speaker 3: speakers like Miley and Obolo and these kind of mainstream Republicans,
Speaker 3: Ben Shapiro people like that that were not allowed to
Speaker 3: speak at college campuses. And of course the right was
Speaker 3: you know, in civil liberitarians would have said that, you know,
Speaker 3: we stand up for the right to speak, but you
Speaker 3: also have to stand up for the right of these
Speaker 3: leftist students to speak. Why can't they speak? So it
Speaker 3: shows that you're right, No one is really free speech.
Speaker 3: I mean, there aren't very many for civil libertati, don't.
Speaker 3: I don't look at Donald Crump as no crusader for
Speaker 3: a fugeats he was if he was legitimate and as
Speaker 3: people the people around them are legitimate, that would be
Speaker 3: the primary focus of their campaign. That the woman he's
Speaker 3: running against is the first candidate I know of to
Speaker 3: openly run against the First Amendment, and as has Tim Wallas.
Speaker 3: They both come on and said the First Amendment. You know,
Speaker 3: we got to do something about this. It goes too far.
Speaker 3: And you know you have the same thing with Hillary
Speaker 3: Clinton and John Carry all these open so you run
Speaker 3: against that party and you say, look, we have to
Speaker 3: have free speech. It's very important. You can't have any
Speaker 3: any asterisks on the First amend But you can never
Speaker 3: imagine Donald Trump saying.
Speaker 2: That if the Constitution was the Constitution, the whole idea
Speaker 2: of their objection to it would make them disqualified for
Speaker 2: the position and the seat. And that alone, I mean
Speaker 2: that should be that should be the guiding principle. Either
Speaker 2: you're you're defending and preserving it or you're not. And
Speaker 2: if you're not, then you're an enemy to it, plain
Speaker 2: and simple. And the people if that, if that's what
Speaker 2: it's required, is the people's power, their their their energy
Speaker 2: to uh clean house, then that's what they have to do.
Speaker 2: Because these people don't belong there. The only reason they're
Speaker 2: there is because that's where the the agenda and the
Speaker 2: energy and the money that's being pumped in here is
Speaker 2: guiding it because we don't truly have what we think
Speaker 2: we have here. There is no structure. There's just the
Speaker 2: smoke in the mirrors. The banks want you to see
Speaker 2: because that way it keeps the masses from freaking out.
Speaker 2: You know, if if the if the jig was up
Speaker 2: and everybody saw what was really happening and what was
Speaker 2: where everything was heading, they would resist. And you can't
Speaker 2: have you can't have the whole livestock. You know, you
Speaker 2: try to run rush the gate, you know it's gonna
Speaker 2: it's gonna knock over. So you got to you got
Speaker 2: to keep them occupied. You got to keep petting them.
Speaker 2: You got to keep telling them that this is the
Speaker 2: you know, you have a constitution, you have this and that,
Speaker 2: and you want to turn them against their own rights
Speaker 2: with all this propaganda so that they start fighting for
Speaker 2: the very their very demise.
Speaker 3: And it's well, yeah, but now I'm saying that I
Speaker 3: would suggest that. But then you have a poll recently
Speaker 3: that unfortunately, uh demonstrated what I think is is really
Speaker 3: a tragic reality in now. Is that and that was
Speaker 3: that you know we're out number on free speech too.
Speaker 3: Is that apparently fifty three percent of the Americans in
Speaker 3: this in this poll said they thought the First Amendment
Speaker 3: went too far. So I don't. I guess, you know,
Speaker 3: standing out for free speech isn't a isn't a winning
Speaker 3: thing anymore because these and these are largely the people.
Speaker 3: Again that and that's why Trump has reaked such havoc
Speaker 3: with politics. And I think it was by design because
Speaker 3: the people that hate him. And again, I've lost so
Speaker 3: many people over my original support of Trump. When he
Speaker 3: first came out, I just said, this guy's you know,
Speaker 3: I know what his background is. I'm sure he's probably
Speaker 3: not sincere, but his rhetoric is revolutionary. You know, he's
Speaker 3: saying some of stuff that I've been saying behind closed doors.
Speaker 3: And I thought, if he does, even if he does
Speaker 3: any of it, this would be incredible.
Speaker 2: And it was sixteen seventeen, right exactly back then. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I was voting too for him, Yes, yes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean And so I said, no, no politician
Speaker 3: has talked like this then my lifetime. And if I'm
Speaker 3: running for president. So and Roger Stone, who was one
Speaker 3: of the was the first high profile person to love
Speaker 3: my book in history, and he contacted me. I wasn't
Speaker 3: he hadn't really gotten into the public eye as much then.
Speaker 3: And I didn't I know him a little bit from
Speaker 3: the JFK community because he wrote a book or two
Speaker 3: about LBJ being behind JFK assassination. So I knew kind
Speaker 3: of what but I know we worked for Nixon. But
Speaker 3: we had some conversations on the phone, and he loved
Speaker 3: Hidden History, thought it was great, and he ended up
Speaker 3: writing the forward to the paperback version of the book.
Speaker 3: And so my name's kind of associated with him. But
Speaker 3: he told me at that time Trump was about to
Speaker 3: run for president, and he said, you know, I've known
Speaker 3: Donald Trump for thirty years and he knows about all
Speaker 3: the conspiracies. You're gonna love him. And I said, okay.
Speaker 3: So I really started paying attention to him. And Trump
Speaker 3: would do that. He would throw out little tidbits about
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, we know, you know he was
Speaker 3: originally in the day of nine to eleven, he was
Speaker 3: talking about there had to be exploses in the building.
Speaker 3: He was recorded as saying that he would he would.
Speaker 2: You're treating the Trump that we want all the way
Speaker 2: back then. The plan is so laid out ahead of time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly so, And I think you know, at the time,
Speaker 3: but I thought, you know, yeah, I realized at the
Speaker 3: time this he seems certainly seems like an unlikely champion.
Speaker 3: But I thought, you know, and that's what Roger Stone
Speaker 3: told me. He said, look, this guy is he's a billionaire.
Speaker 3: He's been observing this stuff behind the scenes. He's and
Speaker 3: that was the original selling point. He's made his money
Speaker 3: and now he's trying to you know, he he doesn't
Speaker 3: want his family to live in this kind of country,
Speaker 3: so he's trying to do something. And I thought, well,
Speaker 3: it's not impossible. But you know, that's somebody that somebody
Speaker 3: would object to what he'd been saying, but would still
Speaker 3: take all the rewards and get all the money, and
Speaker 3: that at some point say you know, I've got to
Speaker 3: do something because this is wrong. So I thought, you know,
Speaker 3: I realized it was very unlikely, and of course it wasn't.
Speaker 3: It didn't take very long for us to realize that
Speaker 3: that for me to call it the Trumpetstein project and
Speaker 3: say it was an actor because obviously he didn't keep
Speaker 3: any of his promises, but at the time he still
Speaker 3: represents the voice of the opposition in the face of
Speaker 3: the opposition. That's why it seems like I'm defending all
Speaker 3: the time I've defended.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't give it option that's either hold or
Speaker 1: that it's left or right. It's nchotomy. That's not really
Speaker 1: there exactly.
Speaker 3: And so he's you know, so he at this point,
Speaker 3: he's what you're given. And so people don't realize what
Speaker 3: I'm doing. Said, no, I'm opposing them. I'm opposing the
Speaker 3: people you guys now love. And this was I mean,
Speaker 3: I had people that wrote reviews of my books and
Speaker 3: who interviewed me many times, have me on their shows,
Speaker 3: and uh, they contracted Trump arrangement syndrome and they ended up.
Speaker 3: I mean, I was interviewed by so many people at
Speaker 3: the crimes of the Clintons and Obama and so forth.
Speaker 3: And I look at those same people on social media
Speaker 3: now and they're calling them, they're calling lovingly, calling her
Speaker 3: Hillary and you know, a Barack. I mean, they it's all.
Speaker 3: And they like Dick Cheney now, they like George W.
Speaker 3: Wish because they endorsed Harris. So this this is where
Speaker 3: we are now. Those people and those were those were
Speaker 3: people were awake at that point. But Trump Trumpenstein has
Speaker 3: worked on them, and he has turned their critical faculties
Speaker 3: off and now all they see is we have to
Speaker 3: we have to stop him from getting in there. I
Speaker 3: can't stand to read his tweets anymore. That's bit I
Speaker 3: can't stand. And that's what it is. They're they're so
Speaker 3: because I always say, well, what is it exactly? What
Speaker 3: what do you objeck to? I mean, what how is what?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 3: What isn't about Trump? And it's all it's obviously what
Speaker 3: he says. And his crazy personality is that that that's
Speaker 3: what it is, because it's nothing he does. He doesn't
Speaker 3: do anything. He talks about doing stuff, but then he doesn't.
Speaker 3: And when he does do something, it's usually you know,
Speaker 3: like naming Jerusalem the capital of Israel something like that
Speaker 3: to you know, to please Israel. But aside from that,
Speaker 3: he he never really did anything. So that's unfortunate. Where
Speaker 3: we are I'm no, no, I just said, so that's
Speaker 3: that's where we are in terms of he's still unfortunately,
Speaker 3: and he divides the alt media, although I think more
Speaker 3: and more of the alt media probably opposes him now, but.
Speaker 1: There's still and Elon was at that. It's disgusting, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Ben Shapiro, I mean again, and you if people want
Speaker 3: to if you want to see again about uh Zionist power,
Speaker 3: look at what happened when you know after the the
Speaker 3: the seventh of the October seventh attack or whatever last year.
Speaker 3: The way Ben Shapiro acted, I mean, he was just.
Speaker 3: I tried to engage with him on Twitter, and I
Speaker 3: kept I kept saying, you know, I just, I just
Speaker 3: I have a question in the unluckily event America went
Speaker 3: to war with Israel, if that, if that somehow happened,
Speaker 3: which side would you be on? And of course he
Speaker 3: never answered me. And I also I also asked him,
Speaker 3: are you are you a dual citizen? Are you a
Speaker 3: citizen of Israel as well? And he hadn't answered that either.
Speaker 3: But if you saw that and and he one, something
Speaker 3: good came out of that though, because Candace Owens, I
Speaker 3: thought she was just you know, the mainline conservative, But boy,
Speaker 3: she is awake as they because she seems like a
Speaker 3: black female David Duke a lot.
Speaker 4: Of the times.
Speaker 1: I mean she is.
Speaker 3: She is really extreme and has gone the way out
Speaker 3: there and uh so, uh you know, and that's all
Speaker 3: because of of Shapiro, because Spiro got rid of her,
Speaker 3: and she she said what I said in terms about
Speaker 3: anti semon is not being able to quantify it. Uh,
Speaker 3: that's she wanted to eight Ben Shapiro, and it was
Speaker 3: to be centered around the question what is anti Semitism?
Speaker 3: And so nobody Shapiro, none of these guys can do
Speaker 3: that because it's like what is hate speech? You can't
Speaker 3: define it because it's not it's there's no definition for it.
Speaker 2: It's only your personal definition, and that changes between a person.
Speaker 2: And whenever you get offended or whenever somebody speaking out
Speaker 2: and you don't have an argument for them, you can't
Speaker 2: defend yourself. You can't defend your your your position. So
Speaker 2: then you just start with the slander of the ad
Speaker 2: hominem attex right. You you turn the the public against
Speaker 2: their their their thoughts and their ideas by using words
Speaker 2: that trigger people.
Speaker 1: That's it's all it is. It's just a tool.
Speaker 2: Nick, did you say have something else to say? You
Speaker 2: unnek your mic there for a minute.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I took it off for a second, Like I said,
Speaker 5: being on the road, those background loads and stuff out
Speaker 5: of one cutting into the show. But I agree with
Speaker 5: mister Jeffries on the botty and stuff what he said
Speaker 5: about Thomas Massey.
Speaker 4: Yeah, same here.
Speaker 5: I think Thomas mass is a good egg. I saw
Speaker 5: what happened right after he criticized Apak yep, not very
Speaker 5: what two weeks three weeks after that, I thought that
Speaker 5: was pretty pretty messed up. Uh. And it correlates with
Speaker 5: the clip that I sent you this morning, Daniel, as
Speaker 5: far as somebody else who did the same thing, you
Speaker 5: know what, twenty years ago, that same outcome.
Speaker 4: Tell you that's all I got for that one right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I wrote I wrote a subsetack article about that.
Speaker 3: I got a lot of play. I don't. I don't
Speaker 3: know if zero head, but zero heads publishes some of
Speaker 3: my stuff when they do obviously get a lot more reads.
Speaker 3: I don't. They probably didn't publish that one because I
Speaker 3: was But yeah, what he's talking about is massy. If
Speaker 3: you people get a chance to see it, I think
Speaker 3: it's still out there. It's the most remarkable interview I've
Speaker 3: ever heard of politician, give to Tucker Carlson, and it
Speaker 3: was you know, I've never heard any American politician criticize
Speaker 3: Israel like that, unless again, they were a member of
Speaker 3: the squad where they hate all white people. But for
Speaker 3: a white guy, a white a white conservative to do
Speaker 3: that unthinkable, and Nick is exactly right. What happened after
Speaker 3: that was, I think it was less than two weeks later,
Speaker 3: his wife suddenly died and there's to my knowledge, there's
Speaker 3: never been a cause listed, and she was perfectly healthy.
Speaker 3: They just gone onto vacation with their grandchildren. I have
Speaker 3: no I think she was about fifty ish fifty one
Speaker 3: or something like that. And you know, he doesn't seem
Speaker 3: to have slowed down like he I think he was
Speaker 3: one of the ones that boycotted net Nyahu's speech to Congress,
Speaker 3: so it seems like he's not suddenly inviting apack in.
Speaker 3: But for him to say that every congressman has an
Speaker 3: apac handler and he wouldn't let a pack in his office,
Speaker 3: that's pretty bold. And again it shows what I you know,
Speaker 3: whatever you want to think. And it was right about
Speaker 3: that same time, the Anti Semitism Awareness Act was passed
Speaker 3: by Congress, which, again, people, if you're trying to convince
Speaker 3: people that you know, you don't run the world or
Speaker 3: you don't have power, the last thing you want to
Speaker 3: do is pass the law that makes it a crime
Speaker 3: to criticize you. And what's the old thing about If
Speaker 3: you want to know who's in charge, find out who
Speaker 3: you can't criticize, and that law is very disturbing. I
Speaker 3: haven't heard any updates on it, but you know it
Speaker 3: really it could really impinge on freedom of speech like
Speaker 3: nothing else ever had. And unfortunately, most of the right
Speaker 3: will support that because again of their devotion to Israel.
Speaker 2: When you think of I guess the progression from eighteen
Speaker 2: sixty five to now where it is dictatorial in the
Speaker 2: sense that you can just declare and to YO an
Speaker 2: executive order and you can abuse that power that was
Speaker 2: never intended.
Speaker 1: I mean no again, right, And.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'd have to look up historically. I
Speaker 3: don't know if, but my guess is Lincoln probably was
Speaker 3: the first one who you know who who abused that. Certainly,
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was the first one who used.
Speaker 2: They had the general orders too, that the generals in
Speaker 2: the in the territories, their general orders were there.
Speaker 3: Yes, they were. I mean with a beast Butler, gentlemen,
Speaker 3: Benjamin beast Butler in New Orleans whose famous order where
Speaker 3: he basically said it was open season to rape all
Speaker 3: the women in New Orleans because they weren't respecting the
Speaker 3: troops and they were all to be treated like prostitutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was his order.
Speaker 2: And so that's Americans, Americans, this is what this is
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. This was this was a foreign
Speaker 2: entity working through American leadership. I mean, it was destructive.
Speaker 2: This isn't what you do your brothers and sisters.
Speaker 3: No, you know, and even something like boat fraud. Again
Speaker 3: it goes back, but it's so laughable. The corny historians
Speaker 3: and the left will try to know. In twenty twenty,
Speaker 3: they they tried to portray the eighteen sixty for election
Speaker 3: as one where there may have been vote fraud against Lincoln,
Speaker 3: And I think, what are you talking about? So we
Speaker 3: know and Thomas de Lorenzo's point out that Lincoln famous, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he famously didn't allow voters that were Northern troops that
Speaker 3: were suspected of being Democrats to vote. He didn't he
Speaker 3: didn't give them leave. And there's a famous letter. Again,
Speaker 3: I published it in Crimes and cover Ups. And again
Speaker 3: this is not a conspiracy there, this is beast Butler himself,
Speaker 3: genuine Butler. Benjamin Butler was one of the most radical Republicans.
Speaker 3: Right in the middle of this in New York City,
Speaker 3: which was a hotbed for McClellan. The New York City
Speaker 3: should have gone overwhelmingly. New York State should have gone
Speaker 3: overwhelming for McClellan because, for whatever reason back then, a
Speaker 3: lot of the opposition to Lincoln in the North was
Speaker 3: centered in New York and McClellan should have won that easily.
Speaker 3: But Butler sent a letter back to Edmund Stanton, who
Speaker 3: again was in the heart of all this, I think
Speaker 3: later orchestrated Lincoln's asassination, and he told him, I've done
Speaker 3: everything I could to stop Democrats from voting in New York. Yeah,
Speaker 3: now that's a u I mean, you talk about a
Speaker 3: damning piece of evidence. What do you mean you've done
Speaker 3: everything you could to stop I mean that's voter suppression,
Speaker 3: isn't that you tried telling the average citizens today?
Speaker 4: It what.
Speaker 3: He was for Lincoln, you know, that's that was There
Speaker 3: was massive fraud in eighteen sixty eighteen sixty four, and
Speaker 3: there's no way that you know, I think Lincoln would
Speaker 3: have would probably have lost in an honest election, but
Speaker 3: you know, it is what it is. And now Lincoln,
Speaker 3: Lincoln is credited for by the Corner storyans, He's credited
Speaker 3: for even having an election. He had an election in
Speaker 3: the middle of an insurrection, isn't it right? Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's a great guy.
Speaker 2: So what do you think of that idea? And you know,
Speaker 2: we're what five days away. Do you think there's going
Speaker 2: to be something stirred up just for that very reason?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think so. And again again I don't know how
Speaker 3: much of this is. I mean, in twenty twenty, if
Speaker 3: you look at my bookhad in History, as you obviously
Speaker 3: read it several times, and I talked about vote scam
Speaker 3: and the Collier brothers and you know what they discovered
Speaker 3: way back when, and this goes back to eighteen seventy
Speaker 3: six and crimes and covers. I talked about how Samuel
Speaker 3: Tilden was robbed in eighteen seventy six. Ruther B. Hayes
Speaker 3: got in there. Even though Tilden won the popular vote,
Speaker 3: was ahead in the electoral college, but there were some
Speaker 3: still some disputed states. So they just went to the
Speaker 3: Republican to the House of Representatives. And there's a committee
Speaker 3: that was formed. And the committee had eight Republicans and
Speaker 3: seven Democrats. So guess which way they went on every state.
Speaker 3: So and in fact, that's another little aside that people
Speaker 3: don't realize. And I found out again accidentally why doing
Speaker 3: this research, that as a concession to the Democrats, the
Speaker 3: Republicans realized it was so ridiculous that they agreed to
Speaker 3: end reconstruction. So I don't know if Reconstruction would have
Speaker 3: ever ended if it hadn't been for that. But they
Speaker 3: realized it was such an obvious steal, they had a
Speaker 3: moment of empathy and they said, okay, we led reconstruction.
Speaker 3: So that was a part of the deal that put
Speaker 3: Rutherford Behayes in office. And you've got Landslide Lyndon Johnson
Speaker 3: in nineteen fifty two. I've written so much about that,
Speaker 3: where he obviously stole that Senate race from Coke Stevenson.
Speaker 3: These things, you know, that hanging chads in two thousand,
Speaker 3: the stuff I wrote about in the quoting the Collier
Speaker 3: brothers in Votescamp. But again, if you want to know
Speaker 3: how powerful the Trump arrangement center it is, Victoria Collier
Speaker 3: was the daughter of one of the one of the
Speaker 3: James or Kenneth, I can't remember which one, And I
Speaker 3: quoted her favorably in Hidden History that she was doing
Speaker 3: good work carrying them on and tried to expose these
Speaker 3: shadowy services and so forth, but apparently obviously she got
Speaker 3: a terrible case of Trump arrangement. Center. First, she argued
Speaker 3: with me she didn't like the fact that the sourcing
Speaker 3: I used for her father's work came from The Spotlight,
Speaker 3: which is an anti Semitic newspaper.
Speaker 1: That's what they say all the time.
Speaker 2: But you know, one of my one of my very
Speaker 2: big influences, who I respect and appreciate, but I have
Speaker 2: a complete different opinion about not opinion, but view. I
Speaker 2: guess this is kind of the same word, but it's
Speaker 2: more strong, I think on World War Two because the narrative,
Speaker 2: the narrative were given, is given by the victors. So
Speaker 2: that's not true at all what happened in Germany.
Speaker 1: I whatsoever?
Speaker 2: Is Bill Cooper and he would he would say that
Speaker 2: the Spotlight was a was a was a racist publication.
Speaker 1: And I and I don't agree.
Speaker 2: Telling the truth, it can sound that way sometimes because
Speaker 2: of how it blatantly wicked.
Speaker 1: The other side is trying to suppress and harm, you know.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I now write I've been writing for the
Speaker 3: last several years for American Free Press, which is what
Speaker 3: the Spotlight became after the Anti Defamation League drove it
Speaker 3: into bankruptcy, so they you know, so I have kind
Speaker 3: of a vested interest there. But I was a subscriber
Speaker 3: of The Spotlight back then, and they, you know, they
Speaker 3: probably focused a little too much on Israel. They intended
Speaker 3: to see a massad agent behind every tree. But they
Speaker 3: published exactly Yeah, and they published a lot of good stuff.
Speaker 3: And they were as I told. And again, I never thought,
Speaker 3: It's not like I'm looking at as this guy jewish
Speaker 3: and the collegier is not a Jewish name, so I'm
Speaker 3: not thinking necessarily these people are Jewish. I was, It wasn't,
Speaker 3: but I guess they are because she just went nuts
Speaker 3: and uh, and I said, you know what, I don't understand.
Speaker 3: You're the only source for what I what. I had
Speaker 3: to use the Spotlight because they're the ones that they're
Speaker 3: the only ones that serialized your father's work. Nobody else
Speaker 3: published it, they interviewed them, they had nobody else was
Speaker 3: paying attention to them, and she I don't want them associated.
Speaker 3: And then later I looked at she deleted me and
Speaker 3: blocked me from Facebook and so forth. So I'd had more,
Speaker 3: no more conversations with her, but I looked at I said,
Speaker 3: I just wonder, I wonder what she thinks about the
Speaker 3: twenty twenty election, because this is way before that. So
Speaker 3: I found that articles she wrote somewhere on some leftist
Speaker 3: thing online that said something like a Trump's allegations of
Speaker 3: fraud in twenty twenty are stupid conspiracy theory something like that.
Speaker 1: So again, this is the.
Speaker 3: Daughter of the people that put vote fraud on the
Speaker 3: map with vote Scamp, and she now, because of Trump's
Speaker 3: arrangement syndrome, she thinks, I guess she thinks we had
Speaker 3: the freest and fair elections ever now. So that's that
Speaker 3: was very dissillusioning to find that out, you know, and
Speaker 3: it is what it is. I was also blocked by
Speaker 3: you know, one of the people I talked to was
Speaker 3: John Wilkes Booth's great great great great grand niece or
Speaker 3: something like that, and you know, I had several conversations
Speaker 3: with her, were hooked up on social media, and then
Speaker 3: I don't know, went looking for us I haven't communicated with.
Speaker 3: I thought she suddenly had deleted as a friend. So
Speaker 3: I don't know if that was because of Trump or
Speaker 3: because of COVID. My writing's on COVID. I lost a
Speaker 3: lot of people for that too, So it is what
Speaker 3: it is, you know, it's it's part of the US, part.
Speaker 4: Of the world.
Speaker 2: We went really long, uh, I mean, I've been doing
Speaker 2: this since six years ago, talking about before there was
Speaker 2: a COVID, I was talking about how dangerous vaccines are
Speaker 2: and medications and things like that. But having picked up
Speaker 2: virus mania recently, and I you know, I went over
Speaker 2: murdered by injection by Yusus Mullins. But prior to that,
Speaker 2: there's also the book Pasture or our big shamper Pasture,
Speaker 2: and it just goes right into the history the continue
Speaker 2: its fraud. It's there's never been anything but damage and
Speaker 2: death associated with inoculations.
Speaker 1: It's not the right way to do it.
Speaker 2: Injecting anything into your body rather than you know, orally
Speaker 2: knocks out all of the safeguards. So it's always going
Speaker 2: to be a shock to the system. It is, never
Speaker 2: regardless of what it is. But I mean, if it's
Speaker 2: poison and heavy metals, all the worse, right, So I mean,
Speaker 2: I yeah, I'm with you on that, and and the
Speaker 2: COVID truth had to be said. I think it's kind
Speaker 2: of funny though, it's like she had the other lady
Speaker 2: tell you. It's almost like you try to feed her bacon.
Speaker 2: She kind of freaked out a little bit.
Speaker 5: There.
Speaker 3: She really did. Yeah, she really did. And it was
Speaker 3: it was very disillusioning because I wanted you know, again,
Speaker 3: I obviously admired her father and her uncle very much.
Speaker 2: And how family does that, right, like the like Henry Ford,
Speaker 2: and then you see like what happened to the Ford
Speaker 2: Motor Company afterwards.
Speaker 3: Yes, oh yes, I can imagine that from Henry Ford
Speaker 3: to the Ford Foundation.
Speaker 1: Is but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I don't know how long were you
Speaker 3: to go?
Speaker 1: I go?
Speaker 3: I can say a little bit longer. But I want
Speaker 3: to mention Masking the Truth. You know, my book about COVID,
Speaker 3: How COVID nineteen destroyed civil labors and shut down the world.
Speaker 3: Sherry Penn Tenpenny wrote the Ford for it. She's a
Speaker 3: big name. And then yeah, area and uh, but you
Speaker 3: know it's again, it's it's it's been treated like none
Speaker 3: of my other books. It's it's been my only shadow
Speaker 3: Band book. Amazon disappeared. The Kindle version, the most recent one. No,
Speaker 3: this is the Masking the Truth. Oh okay, okay, this
Speaker 3: happened my COVID book, and Barns and Noble got rid
Speaker 3: of the entire thing. It's not there anymore that they lead.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard. That's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. And the Apple Books charges it was charging
Speaker 3: nine or ninety nine dollars for it. They did everything could.
Speaker 3: Amazon blocked reviews. It's you know, so many people told
Speaker 3: me they reviewed it, and they didn't put it up.
Speaker 3: They just kept it. It's a thirty three reviews. I
Speaker 3: don't know, maybe they put that. They picked that number out,
Speaker 3: you know, thirty three is a pretty significant number. They
Speaker 3: decided to keep it that but it's been very frustrating
Speaker 3: and the alt media, unfortunately, this should have been the
Speaker 3: book they were waiting for, because the only book that
Speaker 3: tells the entire story about it, it starts at the beginning.
Speaker 3: It doesn't start.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: My friend Naomi Wolf wrote a good book of Bodies
Speaker 3: of Others, and Alex Berenson and RP. K. June's book
Speaker 3: on Falci, all those are good books, but they all start.
Speaker 3: They don't question what COVID was itself. They don't question that.
Speaker 3: They don't talk about the empty hospitals and the dancing nurses.
Speaker 3: I do I talk about all that, and I talked
Speaker 3: about all the lives from the very beginning and how
Speaker 3: you know this thing was overblown and misrepresented from the
Speaker 3: entire beginning. And then of course I go into the
Speaker 3: vaccine like they all do, and how they're covering up
Speaker 3: the dangers of it and the things that's the deaths
Speaker 3: and injuries it's caused. But the all media should have
Speaker 3: loved this book.
Speaker 2: And you can't assume that or even expect the solution
Speaker 2: to be correct if you don't understand the problem. And
Speaker 2: you know, if disease does occur from within from an imbalance,
Speaker 2: or the environment changes because of intake from poison or
Speaker 2: some kind of other stimuli that alters the interior, you're
Speaker 2: not looking for something outside of it. You're not looking
Speaker 2: for some magical unicorn virus at all. So why are
Speaker 2: you trying to combat something that doesn't exist? To me,
Speaker 2: I see that as a very deliberate excuse to inject
Speaker 2: the true poison that you wanted to put in people. First,
Speaker 2: You put in the fear so they came rushing to you,
Speaker 2: and then you get them the actual poison, and then
Speaker 2: they get sick. It's that's this is the eugenics program,
Speaker 2: the soft eugenics program that's been going on by the people.
Speaker 1: Who've Concker Dust since eighteen sixty five.
Speaker 3: Absolutely it is, and so uh people that you know,
Speaker 3: you could try to support me by by getting that book. Yeah,
Speaker 3: very disappointing that because I thought it would do. I
Speaker 3: thought that the uh I mean, Sherry Tampenny wrote the forward,
Speaker 3: and I thought, you know, I was on American Journal
Speaker 3: with Harrison Smith. I was on I've been on In
Speaker 3: for Wars a couple of times, but that was the
Speaker 3: first time in years. I thought Alex would be interested,
Speaker 3: and you know, obviously never was.
Speaker 1: So so I just paperback here. Yeah, I see the
Speaker 1: paperback on on Amazon from Asking the Truth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no the kindles. The kindle's gone. Uh. So
Speaker 3: people have to they want to buy an e book
Speaker 3: version because obviously there's nothing on Barnes and Noble, they
Speaker 3: have to go to it's Midnight Writer News, I mean,
Speaker 3: because nobody would publish it. So it's one step about
Speaker 3: self publishing, and it's Midnight Writer. If you go to
Speaker 3: and search Lulu and Midnight Writer News, you'll you'll find
Speaker 3: it there and you can buy me book version there.
Speaker 3: But uh, that's that's the way to try to to
Speaker 3: go there. But it's it's that's the most disappointing book
Speaker 3: because I thought it was going to do much better
Speaker 3: because there's so many people that are awake to to
Speaker 3: COVID and what happened.
Speaker 2: I woke people up to the whole medical establishment a lot,
Speaker 2: a lot of more than they were before. Now they
Speaker 2: questioned their stating drugs because everybody has dementia and Alzheimer's, you.
Speaker 3: Know, so right, so that's what that uh anyhow, that's
Speaker 3: the so you know, people can in the American memory
Speaker 3: hole if you're everything. We've been talking about.
Speaker 1: That one at all because he was he was kind
Speaker 1: of like a lunch you know.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know that I mentioned him. There's
Speaker 3: so many things to mention, you know, in these books.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I I could, I probably should have. But
Speaker 3: but again there's there's more. There's more hidden history. There
Speaker 3: are more hidden history books that come. I mean, there's uh,
Speaker 3: there's probably because these these are the ones that people buy.
Speaker 3: You know, my other books, I book on bullying and
Speaker 3: the book on showbiz and my book on economics, say
Speaker 3: that these those don't sell. The hidden history books would
Speaker 3: sell so and I you know, they're fun, I love
Speaker 3: doing them and they're important. So yeah, I'll have to
Speaker 3: make sure to to include more event brand Ie and
Speaker 3: Frankfurt and people like.
Speaker 5: That, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good point.
Speaker 2: And then uh, you know, it's interesting we know where
Speaker 2: the Frankfurt school went to and what universities afterwards, and
Speaker 2: then tell them into the land grants for these universities
Speaker 2: and how they're kind of like hubs for this takeover,
Speaker 2: the soft takeover that the education, you know, the the
Speaker 2: propagandaizing of the children of the Oh.
Speaker 3: Sure I could. I could do more about John Dewey
Speaker 3: and the you know they in the in the beginning
Speaker 3: of the of the modern public education system and the
Speaker 3: kind of things that were in there from the beginning,
Speaker 3: even when it was much better, you still have some
Speaker 3: kind of some kind of light propaganda. And then so
Speaker 3: you eventually get to the point today where you have
Speaker 3: you know, gender career and transgender Story Hour and critical
Speaker 3: race theory.
Speaker 1: And all the other it's allowed.
Speaker 2: Like parent the parent instincts should like there should be
Speaker 2: an annihilation of that type of thing, like like literally
Speaker 2: if it has to be physical whatever, But I mean
Speaker 2: there should be a very very very blunt point being
Speaker 2: made to where this is not acceptable and this is
Speaker 2: insane to even consider it is.
Speaker 3: And there's but unfortunately, again we and that's why you know,
Speaker 3: I said, you know, if we can't win at that level,
Speaker 3: if we can't win at the school board level, then
Speaker 3: how do you possibly think we can win at the
Speaker 3: national level.
Speaker 1: You know, you're a domestic terrorist if you protect your
Speaker 1: children from having their generals to cut off.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But the only way they can say that, the
Speaker 3: only way they can depict people like that and be
Speaker 3: successful at it is because all this is about is
Speaker 3: a game of numbers. It's all about it. We outnumber them,
Speaker 3: just like Orwell's prolls out numbered the Inner Party by
Speaker 3: by the billions around the world, but hundreds of millions
Speaker 3: here in America. And all we have to do is
Speaker 3: come together. As you said about parents, and my children
Speaker 3: are grown. But I would have been appalled if that
Speaker 3: stuff had been going on in the schools, and that
Speaker 3: was that long ago, and I would have been on
Speaker 3: a viral video I'm sure every week for the school boards.
Speaker 3: But when you watch those people, and I had a
Speaker 3: incredible courageous young girl that's like fourteen or fifteen years old.
Speaker 3: I had her on my show probably a month or
Speaker 3: maybe a couple months ago with her mother, and you can,
Speaker 3: I forget what they call her channel, but she's her
Speaker 3: name is Amelia, but she's she just choose these school
Speaker 3: she's and she goes all the time, and she just
Speaker 3: lights into these school boards and calls them out for
Speaker 3: how much money they make and all the terrible things
Speaker 3: they're teaching children. And she's so brave. But when you
Speaker 3: watch those, he has just some support. But everybody there
Speaker 3: should be supporting her. And just like if you get
Speaker 3: an angry parent, the one that has the courage to
Speaker 3: step forward and talk about it, all the other parents
Speaker 3: need to step right behind them and say, yeah, right on,
Speaker 3: that's all they have to do. They don't.
Speaker 2: They sit the numbers in the in the solidarity and
Speaker 2: will intimidate these weasels.
Speaker 3: That's that's exactly. They're that one solitary cop that that
Speaker 3: the tyrant school board member says, escort him out. He's
Speaker 3: not going to do it. If you have fifty angry
Speaker 3: people there, he's not gonna do it. He's not you know,
Speaker 3: maybe he'll you know, go crazy and start shooting and
Speaker 3: lose his job.
Speaker 2: But they're they're stands up and just stands there without
Speaker 2: even doing anything, because that's that's the that's that shows
Speaker 2: that they're you know, you're not going to get get
Speaker 2: to these people are cowards.
Speaker 1: And granted they brought us cowardice.
Speaker 2: That's why we don't stand up, because we're afraid of
Speaker 2: our precious lives, as your rebzment Off used to say.
Speaker 2: But you know they're also cowards because they like to
Speaker 2: pick out the people who are a disarmed and that's
Speaker 2: something that they're talking about again or outnumbered. And if
Speaker 2: you're there can be a whole room of people, but
Speaker 2: if they're not gonna but if they're going to turn
Speaker 2: the other way or just hold up their phone when
Speaker 2: it happens, you are alone, you know. And it's yeah,
Speaker 2: they got the social media thing. But like I was
Speaker 2: watching the hospital that got that got hit in Gaza
Speaker 2: and there's you know, the boy and his mom burning
Speaker 2: to death and you see him in there in the
Speaker 2: flame and there's all these guys with phones. I'm like,
Speaker 2: and then they grab blankets later, I'm like, yes, why
Speaker 2: don't you grab the blankets first, you jackass?
Speaker 3: Exactly, Yeah, that's what it is. They'll film this stuff
Speaker 3: and they want all it would take. All it would
Speaker 3: take is for people when any of this tyranny happens,
Speaker 3: whether it's a you know, a cop going wild on
Speaker 3: somebody and there's a crowd there, or certainly at the
Speaker 3: school boards, if they just so show us solidar that
Speaker 3: these guys are cowards, all of them are, and they
Speaker 3: would back down. And that's that the wars. That's the
Speaker 3: beginning of winning the war. It's just doing it like
Speaker 3: that civil disobedience using numbers. And uh we just so
Speaker 3: far the American people that don't show any indication that
Speaker 3: they're willing to do that. So we'll see what happens
Speaker 3: next week when the election happens. And is I mean,
Speaker 3: I I can't make any predictions. I don't know what
Speaker 3: they're planning to do, but yeah, but I mean I I,
Speaker 3: you know, I suspect obviously, though it won't be legitimate again,
Speaker 3: they'll be massive voting for him. And if they decide
Speaker 3: to do the same thing again and have to pick
Speaker 3: Trump as the poor loser and he starts stamping his
Speaker 3: feet and you know, doing what he does, they're not
Speaker 3: going to see people protesting. After January sixth there they're
Speaker 3: not gonna and I don't blame them because they don't
Speaker 3: want to be subject to as that kind of tyranny and.
Speaker 1: Be Sentory threw them under the bus the first time.
Speaker 2: What about the if he really did get grazed and
Speaker 2: it wasn't just a public ritual of showing that, or
Speaker 2: he got tagged in the ear like the cattle he
Speaker 2: is for the Israel, if that's not if it was,
Speaker 2: if it was legitimate, why did he not ever take
Speaker 2: the what do you call it?
Speaker 1: The The focus was on him, not about the guy
Speaker 1: who actually died behind him allegedly.
Speaker 2: Yes, he never wants that I know of, even you know,
Speaker 2: any word of remorse to that, because he's such an
Speaker 2: ego frigging maniac exactly retired fireman allegedly was killed a
Speaker 2: father And you don't hear anything else after that, You
Speaker 2: just hear it once.
Speaker 3: Well, And I've written a lot about the Trump has
Speaker 3: asked first, especially the first I wrote about the second
Speaker 3: one two. But you know whatever that I know a
Speaker 3: lot of people thinks it's a hoax, and it's I
Speaker 3: ironic to people that never thought like I. One of
Speaker 3: my friends who thinks I'm completely nuts, like most of
Speaker 3: my real life friends do. They don't agree with anything
Speaker 3: I say, and they think I'm crazy. And he sent
Speaker 3: me a text right after Trump with the first shootings
Speaker 3: mostly and said, well, I hope you're going to write
Speaker 3: about this fake shooting and so instance everybody that hates
Speaker 3: Trump thought that's the I said, You've all finally found
Speaker 3: something fake. You finally found fake blood and crisis actors,
Speaker 3: you know, but because they want to lock people like
Speaker 3: me up for questioning any of these other events. But
Speaker 3: suddenly you have Keith Olberman, you have Joy Reid, all
Speaker 3: these people is Rosie O'Donnell all publicly saying it was
Speaker 3: fake Trump staged it. So and again I have no idea.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of questionable elements the ear things, certainly,
Speaker 3: but the way you go about that is you honestly investigate.
Speaker 3: You notice how people just stop talking about it. So
Speaker 3: you look at, okay, why why why did why did
Speaker 3: the Secret Services stand their stand down even worse than
Speaker 3: they did it with Jfking.
Speaker 1: They did nothing and the fist in the air, I'm like,
Speaker 1: come on, man.
Speaker 3: With the Eogima flag. Yeah, And of course it's so
Speaker 3: lots of things investigate there, But I ironically, I think
Speaker 3: if they're doing investigate it, eventually they've actually tried. The
Speaker 3: Republicans have actually tried to throw the nonsense in that
Speaker 3: that Iran was involved.
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed plays that up because they want a war.
Speaker 2: So he's like outran Iran, Iran, Iran, just like Russia, Russia,
Speaker 2: Russia when he was you know, when Russia was supposedly
Speaker 2: helping Trump.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 1: Now it's Iran because they want a.
Speaker 3: War, exactly, and so that's I don't even know.
Speaker 1: That's why exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and see the idea that you know, again they
Speaker 3: turn off their critical faculty, so you really you think
Speaker 3: you Ron controlled our secret service and told them to
Speaker 3: stand down. Ron's pretty powerful.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, they've gotten Michael Jackson on cassette tape.
Speaker 6: Yeah exactly, exactly, Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's it's so ridiculous,
Speaker 6: but I mean that's you know this album, yeah exactly.
Speaker 6: We live in interesting times anyhow, But I better run
Speaker 6: here in a minute, I got Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really appreciate you guys. You know, I appreciate
Speaker 3: the fact that you've been talking about my work and everything,
Speaker 3: and it's it's very nice. To hear.
Speaker 1: Hey, Nicked, is there anything you want to say?
Speaker 4: Oh, no, it's just a.
Speaker 5: Very educational talk. And I definitely appreciate all the office time.
Speaker 5: I'm definitely gonna be digging into his books and when
Speaker 5: I get my chance to get back to that one
Speaker 5: particular library, there's a whole shelf of Lincoln stuff that
Speaker 5: I'm in the delvyto. It was right above the family
Speaker 5: notes that we have been looking at before that. Maybe
Speaker 5: you and Dwayne and talked about bulletproof, so it should
Speaker 5: be interesting.
Speaker 1: Very cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I hope next week with with Dwayne Wilson get into
Speaker 2: Gompers more and hopefully Belmont and stuff like that, and
Speaker 2: and Strauss.
Speaker 1: That'd be an interesting topic.
Speaker 5: Oh there was one more thing before I go, Can
Speaker 5: you forward that plaque to mister Jefferies so he can
Speaker 5: look over the names on it, because I believe there
Speaker 5: was a call.
Speaker 1: You're in there, okay, Oh of course, yep, something to
Speaker 1: look at. So all right, you got about it.
Speaker 4: You'll have a good one.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Dick, And I do appreciate your time.
Speaker 2: Anything else you want to promote before your health the
Speaker 2: doors that way, I just just.
Speaker 3: You know, there was a book as American Memory Hall,
Speaker 3: the Court of Stories. Promote this information that that's available everywhere.
Speaker 3: You can find that easily.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna pull up all this after that way
Speaker 1: is it's not on your time.
Speaker 2: I'm going to pull it up on Amazon and show
Speaker 2: everybody where to find your stuff on substack.
Speaker 3: And last appreciate it and the substacks. Donal Jeffries at
Speaker 3: subsack dot com, Twitter at Don Jeffries. Those are the
Speaker 3: ways to support me. The Twitter, I'm being allowed to
Speaker 3: grow a little very and increments. They held me out
Speaker 3: for a long time, but it is easing up a
Speaker 3: bit under musk, I guess. But substack is the is
Speaker 3: the largest free speech platform we have on the Internet left,
Speaker 3: and so we need to support it because we need
Speaker 3: these big platforms that had big names, you know, like
Speaker 3: Naomi Wolf and Gla Greenwald and people that right there
Speaker 3: as well as people like me. So you can you
Speaker 3: can see that you can attract a large audience there.
Speaker 2: And I have to introduce you to f TJ Media.
Speaker 2: To ftjmedia dot com is kind of blossoming. It used
Speaker 2: to be by a different name, but it's a whole
Speaker 2: different structure now, very very good for video content and
Speaker 2: not being censored.
Speaker 1: So maybe we'll send you a link there.
Speaker 2: I'll send it to the to the guys first and
Speaker 2: see if they, uh what they think of it, and
Speaker 2: then I'll get you that uh that plaque over to
Speaker 2: you too. But yeah, I appreciate your time. I'm going
Speaker 2: to go ahead and get this out a show, show
Speaker 2: around your your sites and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And you you do you think SUBSEC has.
Speaker 2: A sustainable amount of people that understood that even though
Speaker 2: that it exists, because two years ago somebody had told
Speaker 2: me I should get on it, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody this is the first.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's it's getting it's getting bigger. They most of the
Speaker 3: big names are on there. Like I said, Naomi wats
Speaker 3: big on their Glenn Greenwald. Uh there there there are
Speaker 3: lots of you know people, I mean, I'm being allowed
Speaker 3: to grow, but I'm I'm not in their categories, but
Speaker 3: there there, Yeah, there is a lot of interest there.
Speaker 3: There's people that are you know, what, what's the guy's name? Oh,
Speaker 3: what's that he's he's associated with COVID. God, I can't
Speaker 3: think of that. And he claims to you're making a
Speaker 3: million dollars a euro subseax. I can't imagine the followers
Speaker 3: he must have, he would have to happen. Now he
Speaker 3: may be lying, but that's that shows the potential of
Speaker 3: the pot there for millions of people. And that's that's
Speaker 3: what you need. You need that kind of audience and
Speaker 3: people to be exposed to alternative views and real alternative
Speaker 3: views that aren't compromised.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: And that's that's a good point too, because I don't
Speaker 2: have like a blog type thing yet, so this is
Speaker 2: the that would be a good thing. I just always
Speaker 2: noticed that lately, when I'm finding real information I'm searching
Speaker 2: on different browsers other than Chrome, it usually pulls up
Speaker 2: somebody's substack article. So I guess there's something to that
Speaker 2: that I actually get what I'm asking for, you know,
Speaker 2: then then the the generic diet gov dot N I
Speaker 2: h answers from uh from from Chrome.
Speaker 1: That's fifteen pages long.
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much, and uh, it's been great
Speaker 2: talking to you. Hopefully you can do that again sometime.
Speaker 3: Well, thanks, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me. Take care,
Speaker 3: take care.
Speaker 1: We will show Hello nick gunny anything, bro.
Speaker 5: No, just very very interesting. I'd rather be a flower
Speaker 5: on the wall and listen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just learn from from what I'm here, and if
Speaker 4: I got anything to add.
Speaker 5: Like I said, I'm on the road, so it's hard
Speaker 5: to pop up without getting a lot of noise.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't want to lean over and taking
Speaker 4: over anything.
Speaker 1: So I got you, man, I appreciate that. I appreciate
Speaker 1: you being part of it today. Thank you for having
Speaker 1: the effort.
Speaker 2: Hopefully I'll see you in about what is it at
Speaker 2: one o'clock Pacific time. I'm not sure where you'll be
Speaker 2: if you're going to be a different zone by then,
Speaker 2: if you're driving from Michigan.
Speaker 4: But it's twelve thirty right now where I'm at, so.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, hopefully we'll hopefully we'll see you. I don't
Speaker 2: you know how to connect with the thisis on Skype
Speaker 2: right because I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's not like a link. You just kind of got
Speaker 1: to find around it.
Speaker 4: And then it's been a while since I talk to her.
Speaker 5: If you want to send me a link or something
Speaker 5: in like a little fifteen minute heads up, then I
Speaker 5: can talk.
Speaker 4: I got it for sure.
Speaker 2: I gotta see if there is a Lincoln, then I'll
Speaker 2: because I don't even know if I'm gonna be able
Speaker 2: to get on until the less I have one, The
Speaker 2: call isn't going to be just got to be jumped
Speaker 2: into someone else's call.
Speaker 4: So I gotta find the link.
Speaker 1: I don't think you send.
Speaker 4: You got a really interesting story for you all them
Speaker 4: when we do talk.
Speaker 1: So I can't wait, man, I can't wait.
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 1: Cool?
Speaker 2: So, And for those of you out there, if I
Speaker 2: find this link, I will send it into the telegram group.
Speaker 1: And if you're not in the telegram group, didn't why
Speaker 1: aren't you?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: So that you guys can share your boo done it
Speaker 1: Halloween stories as well?
Speaker 4: Oh Dangel, did you see the comments, Polk?
Speaker 5: I had a question in there about when Lincoln walk
Speaker 5: back you listen says Green's order to expel people from
Speaker 5: his area of operation from that book that it's actually
Speaker 5: from that book that.
Speaker 4: I sent you to clip moth.
Speaker 1: Are you talking about the the order eleven about the Jews?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, See, I have a feeling that there's something weird
Speaker 2: about that, because Grant was quite the time himself. So
Speaker 2: I saw that question, and I don't have enough information
Speaker 2: on it myself personally too.
Speaker 1: It doesn't it's a piece that doesn't fit book.
Speaker 4: In the book, it goes further.
Speaker 5: It says that that was one of the biggest stains
Speaker 5: on his career, personal life, and reputation as long as
Speaker 5: he lived till he went to his grave, was that
Speaker 5: he did that.
Speaker 4: And and like, like in the comment sections, this is
Speaker 4: what you're saying.
Speaker 5: Well, he says, what led to it was the question
Speaker 5: in the comment section, And I'm not sure what led
Speaker 5: to it. In the book, that's where it starts out
Speaker 5: as to Grant put out this order and Lincoln walked
Speaker 5: it back.
Speaker 4: It doesn't say why.
Speaker 5: It doesn't give it well. I mean, it gives just
Speaker 5: a you know, a very yeah. Well, like nothing is
Speaker 5: too specific though. He says he didn't want a whole
Speaker 5: class of people to be treated badly or be treated
Speaker 5: differently for the wrongdoings of a few, or something something
Speaker 5: along those lines. But uh, like I said, I'm only
Speaker 5: two or three.
Speaker 4: Pages into the book. I haven't got into it that
Speaker 4: for you. I just got what I screened shop when
Speaker 4: I was doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: As far as as far as why Lincoln would have
Speaker 2: done that, I mean, I think we already know where
Speaker 2: he was, where he was operating from, and why and
Speaker 2: how he was there in the first place. I mean,
Speaker 2: he jumped out of a two story window once, so
Speaker 2: he didn't have to make a crucial decision when he was,
Speaker 2: you know, when he was.
Speaker 1: Working government in Chicago. For a guy that tall, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just like stepping out of the window and touching
Speaker 1: the ground.
Speaker 4: But I mean that sounds like something a person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he was a crazy person and right, mercury drugs.
Speaker 1: I was about to say the same thing.
Speaker 5: Right, but I hadn't heard the rumors that the author
Speaker 5: mentioned in that show about him possibly uh playing for
Speaker 5: both teams.
Speaker 4: I had not heard of that.
Speaker 5: But when he said it, something clicked in my hand,
Speaker 5: because think about it, who was the Obama compared to
Speaker 5: so much during his career early on and throughout it
Speaker 5: was looking they compared them to Neck and Nick because
Speaker 5: they spoke so well.
Speaker 4: He gave these great speeches, and that the same thing
Speaker 4: with Obama.
Speaker 1: They're about the same body style too, weren't they.
Speaker 5: Out of Chicago. Yeah, absolutely, there's a lot of similarities there.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's maybe he's one of the slave kids.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if it's something to look into.
Speaker 4: Something you just never know.
Speaker 1: He would have to be a few generations past that,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I get you, that's that's yeah.
Speaker 2: The the Stanton thing is also something I got to
Speaker 2: look into more because I know that guy was was
Speaker 2: a sick, sick tyrant talking when he was redoing that book.
Speaker 1: Like what Stanton was declaring and wanting to have done
Speaker 1: to the South was atrocious.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Americans, right, And that oi ve element
Speaker 2: is there the whole time, at the bank O element,
Speaker 2: the Sanhedrin type of people that surrounded Lincoln.
Speaker 1: It was, I mean, the influences there.
Speaker 2: And then him basically at least at least they're trying
Speaker 2: to claim him now saying that uh that he's told
Speaker 2: me personally. But they also said that they had that
Speaker 2: there tattoos had something to do with them being in
Speaker 2: uh and in a camp and they had done it
Speaker 2: themselves so they could get money. So I mean it's yeah,
Speaker 2: whatever whatever pace may be. Every they lie a lot,
Speaker 2: some people don't didn't won't even at the camp. And
Speaker 2: they have a story about how they meant Mengola, which
Speaker 2: is a kind of interesting. They had published a book
Speaker 2: and made a bunch of money on it, and then
Speaker 2: they all retracted when they get caught, when they get
Speaker 2: found out, they're all a bunch of.
Speaker 4: Read that article. He said, Well, it happened in his mind.
Speaker 4: It happened in his imagination that.
Speaker 2: Was that was part of Europa, and they justify it
Speaker 2: and to themselves. They they believe them their own bullshit
Speaker 2: before every before anything else. They believe their own bullshit,
Speaker 2: and then they get offended when you, uh have criticisms
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go on and jump offer
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 5: I'm going into area where service is going to be patchy,
Speaker 5: so cool, and we'll try to.
Speaker 4: Get on and talk about some weird stuff here in
Speaker 4: a few.
Speaker 1: This is me fist pumping. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: can see it on the screen, but.
Speaker 4: I see you right back at you anybody later.
Speaker 2: Later, all right, So hopefully everybody will tune into your
Speaker 2: niche Hopefully I will be able to find a link
Speaker 2: that says, hey, send this link out to people, and
Speaker 2: that will be that. But she's and I I and
Speaker 2: I I s h space capital ka. But I don't
Speaker 2: think that matters, because if you're in a group call,
Speaker 2: you can't just like pap into it. You gotta have
Speaker 2: the link ah brain break. Anyway, Let's figure out how
Speaker 2: that works later, and I'll hopefully be able to get
Speaker 2: this to you, because I mean, what what's later later?
Speaker 2: It's like now we gotta get it on, we gotta
Speaker 2: get going. I don't she probably name it up yet
Speaker 2: or maybe she's walking her dogs. We'll figure it out
Speaker 2: her wolf dogs. Anyway, So let me show you this first.
Speaker 1: But he's like the sound effects.
Speaker 4: Shut up?
Speaker 3: You did?
Speaker 1: You know you did? Don't don't try to hack cool?
Speaker 4: All right, here we go.
Speaker 3: This is.
Speaker 1: Yes, so fok around all right. So these are the
Speaker 1: books and this is Amazon. You just put Donald Jefferies
Speaker 1: J E. F F R I E. S books.
Speaker 2: The top one is the newest one American memory hole.
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Speaker 2: in her you know, paperback as in not not as
Speaker 2: in the kindle. But uh so it's called the Hidden
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Speaker 2: cover Ups in American politics, because here comes the next book,
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Speaker 2: and nineteen sixty three, which is kind of like a
Speaker 2: prequel to this, because this kind of starts in sixty three, right,
Speaker 2: and this one goes all the way up to the
Speaker 2: kind of assassination.
Speaker 1: This one kind of starts with it. So see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying there, You see what I'm saying, all right?
Speaker 4: Cool?
Speaker 2: And then you have masking the truth, this is the
Speaker 2: paperback version. And then the Survival of the richest. How
Speaker 2: the corruption of the marketplace and disparity of wealth created
Speaker 2: the greatest conspiracy of all. You know, there's there's a
Speaker 2: lot of things I wanted to ask.
Speaker 1: There's there's a.
Speaker 2: Lot more that I had, Like, I mean, we could talk,
Speaker 2: We could have talked about NAFTA and GAT when we
Speaker 2: wouldn't if that came up. And how like you know,
Speaker 2: industry moved overseas and it was a way of you know,
Speaker 2: weakening the country and destroying our industry and everything else
Speaker 2: to make us dependent on other nations.
Speaker 1: Even though that was pretty.
Speaker 2: Ridiculous, it was deliberate. And how USMCA is only perpetuated that,
Speaker 2: and how Trump was behind that. He penn he penned
Speaker 2: the document and then no sooner was the ink dry.
Speaker 2: We were in a lockdown to almost indicate that. Okay,
Speaker 2: now that's come into effect because USMCA overrid overrides border
Speaker 2: boundaries when it comes to like international law. According to
Speaker 2: them who make up shit bullyocracy, how the social hierarchy,
Speaker 2: it enables bullies to rule schools, workplaces, and society at
Speaker 2: large on our time, fame, money, mystery, and corruption in
Speaker 2: the entertainment rule. I don't think this is the same
Speaker 2: Donald Jeffres Now. I think that's I think that was
Speaker 2: the end of all his So there you have it.
Speaker 2: Those are all there on Amazon. You can find him
Speaker 2: from there. But let's see if we can find his
Speaker 2: Donald Jeffrey subsect. So you know, let's go to let's
Speaker 2: go to Twitter first because that's what I call it,
Speaker 2: because that's what it was called, and that's what is
Speaker 2: called to me. And then I'll go see author Donald
Speaker 2: on to boom. Oh wait, that's me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, look, there's his name right there.
Speaker 2: What the hell's wrong with search? He should be the
Speaker 2: first thing up there. So it's at Don Jefferies. You
Speaker 2: guys can still see you, Okay, good? And there it
Speaker 2: is right there, Okay. And then don Jeffries dot Media.
Speaker 2: I wonder if that goes to his substack. You would
Speaker 2: think he would want to subset. Oh there is right there,
Speaker 2: Don Jeffreys substack, right there, Don Jeffries that media. So
Speaker 2: let's go to this one. Yeah, sure, why not? Oh
Speaker 2: all right, hold on, let's just get there.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 1: So here's the substack, and there's the articles, and then.
Speaker 2: There is forgive me if I don't want to give
Speaker 2: you my card number to the rest of the people
Speaker 2: out in the world here, and then there is this
Speaker 2: one here Don Jeffries that media that almost looks like
Speaker 2: it was the thing.
Speaker 1: Then along articles contact does donate in my books? And
Speaker 1: there you go. It's another page. I guess the unreals
Speaker 1: This is hmm.
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Speaker 3: There you go.
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Speaker 2: running though. Good times, great oldies. All right, that pause
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Speaker 1: Of the chat.
Speaker 2: Hello, great guest, Thank you bush Master. Yes, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: Did I ever tell everybody that Ken O'Keefe said, yes,
Speaker 2: And it's about been enough time since the last time
Speaker 2: he said he you know, hit me in a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks. I think it's been about a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: I'll start off in November and I'll talk to him then.
Speaker 2: That way, it's like you know, he's been he's been
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Speaker 1: This is the thing that Nick was talking about too.
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Speaker 2: one way, shape or form, if it doesn't have to
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Speaker 2: going to be treating us.
Speaker 1: War by a different means.
Speaker 2: They're already culling you with with vaccines and medical right
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Speaker 1: That's why I call them.
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Speaker 1: You could say the.
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Speaker 2: Periodically throughout the day, Like whenever I have an inkling
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