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much for your support. So I did all the show

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prep for you know, full show today, try to get

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through a bunch of topics that I didn't get through

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during the week. But then I saw Zelenski was coming

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to the White House and I knew they were going

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to be doing some sort of joint appearance. This was

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you've seen this setting before. They got the two chairs

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set up in the Oval office in front of the fireplace.

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You know, one leader in one of the gold chairs,

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and you know, the president did another gold chair, and

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then they they make a couple of statements, answer a

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question or two, and then they heard the media out

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of the old office. So that was that's that's the

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scene for what just transpired about fifteen minutes ago. Uh,

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it was a little, uh, it was a little tense,

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shall we say, it was a little tense. And by

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a little, I mean a lot. It started off, by

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the way, when when Trump greeted Zelensky as he got

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out of the the black suv at the White House,

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and Trump says to him, He's like, oh, I see

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you wore you dressed up for the occasion or something.

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Oh you wore your best clothes or something to that effect.

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Because Zelensky is not wearing the you know, the green sweater,

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like the military skin tight sweater thing that he's always wearing,

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that he wears all the time. It's his you know,

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apparently he does not own a jacket or a collared shirt.

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But Trump makes the comment to him, and he is

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wearing a black sweater, so he's not wearing a green sweater.

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He's wearing a black version of it. And Trump makes

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the go, oh, you dressed up. Whit's come on, that's

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he shouldn't do that whatever. You know, it's okay. So

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now they're sitting in the Oval Office. They had some

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meeting and then you know, little meat and greet whatever.

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They go to the Oval office. They got the press

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in there. I guess and then okay, well, here it goes.

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I have not even heard all of this. I heard

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I heard little bits and pieces of it. So here

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we go.

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Speaker 2: Well, if I didn't align myself with both of them,

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you'd never have a deal.

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Speaker 1: So he was asked, are you essentially aligning yourself with

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Vladimir Putin of Russia? And so that's what Trump is

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responding to. He's like, if I didn't align myself with

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both of them, you're not going to get a deal.

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Speaker 2: He want me to say really terrible things about Putin

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and then say, Hi, Vladimir, how are we doing on

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the deal?

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Speaker 3: That doesn't work that way. I'm not aligned with Putin.

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I'm not aligned with anybody.

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Speaker 2: I'm aligned with the United States of America and for

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the good of the world, I'm aligned with the world,

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and I want to get this thing over with. You

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see the hatred he's got for a Putin. That's very

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tough for me to make a deal with that kind

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of Hey, he's got tremendous hatred and I understand that.

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But I can tell you the other side isn't exactly

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in love with you know him, either, So it's not

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a question of alignment I have to. I'm aligned with

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the world. I want to get the thing set. I'm

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aligned with Europe. I want to see if we can

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get this thing done. You want me to be tough.

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I could be tougher than any human being you've ever seen.

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I'd be so tough. But you're never going to get

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a deal that way. So that's the way it goes.

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Speaker 3: I one more question, I would respond to this.

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Speaker 4: So look, for four years the United States of America,

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we had a president who stood up at press conferences

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and talked tough about Vladimir Putin, and then Putin invaded

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Ukraine and destroyed a significant chunk of the country. The

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path to peace and the path to prosperity is maybe

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engaging in diplomacy. We tried the pathway of Joe Biden,

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of thumping our chest and pretending that the President of

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the United States's words mattered more than the President of

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the United States's actions. What makes America a good country

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is America engaging in diplomacy.

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Speaker 3: That's what President Trump is doing. Can I ask you sure?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, okay, So.

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Speaker 6: Our big parts of Ukraine, parts of East and Crimea.

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So he occupied it on twenty fifteen. So during a

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lot of years. I'm not speaking about Jus Biden, but

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those time was Obama, then President Obama, then President Trump,

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then President Biden, now the President Trump and God bless.

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Now President Trump will stop him. But during twenty fifteen,

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nobody stopped him. He just occupied took he killed people.

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You know what the contact twenty fifteen, twenty.

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Speaker 5: Fourty so he killed that here, yeah, by the second right, yes,

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But during twenty fourteen until twenty twenty two, what the

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situation the same that people have been dying on the

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contact line.

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Speaker 3: Nobody stopped him. You know that.

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Speaker 6: We had conversations with him, a lot of conversations, my

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bilateral conversation, and we signed with him, me like a

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new president. In twenty nineteen, I signed with him the

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deal I signed with him. Macron and Mayor kill we

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signed ceasefire, ceasefire. All of them told me that he

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will never go. We signed him with guess contract.

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Speaker 1: Guess contract, yes, but the gas contract.

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Speaker 3: He broke the cease fire.

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Speaker 6: He killed our people and he didn't exchange prisoners. We

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signed the exchange of prisoners, but he didn't do it.

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What kind of diplomacy gg us became involved? What what do.

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Speaker 2: You, what do you mean.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to

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end the.

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Speaker 3: Destruction of your country.

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Speaker 4: But mister President, mister President, with respect, I think it's

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disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office to

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try to litigate this in front of the American media.

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Right now, you guys are going around and forcing conscripts

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to the front lines because you have manpower problems. You

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should be thanking the president for trying to bring it

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into this conflict into Ukraine.

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Speaker 3: That do you say, what problems we have?

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Speaker 4: I have been to I've actually I've actually watched and

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seen the stories, and I know what happens is you

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bring people, you bring them on a propaganda tour. Mister President,

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are do you disagree problems bringing.

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Speaker 3: People in your military have?

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Speaker 4: And do you think that it's respectful hold ons to

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come to the Oval Office of the United States of

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America and attack the administration that is trying to trying

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to prevent the destruction of your country?

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Speaker 3: A lot of questions. Let's start from the beginning.

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Speaker 6: Surest wall during the war, ever, but problems even you.

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But you have nice ocean and don't feel now, but

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you will feel it in diffusion.

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Speaker 3: You don't know that. I'm blessed, you're blessed, You're war.

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Don't tell us what we're gonna feel. We're trying to

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solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're gonna feel.

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Speaker 6: I'm not telling you because you're in no position to

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dictate that.

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Speaker 2: You're in no position to dictate what we're gonna feel.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna feel very feel influenced. We're gonna feel very

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good and very strong, feel influence.

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Speaker 2: You're right now not in a very good position. You've

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allowed you to be in a very bad position. That

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is to be right about the very beginning of the war.

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Not in a good position. You don't have the cards

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right now with us. You start having right now. You

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don't explainspread. You're gambling with the lives and billions of people.

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Speaker 3: See, you're gambling with world War three.

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Speaker 2: You're gambling with World War three. And what you're doing

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is very disrespectful to the country.

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Speaker 3: This country's back.

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Speaker 2: To you far more than a lot of people said

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they should have.

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Speaker 4: Have you said thank you once, Oh my gosh, no,

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in this entire media you said thanks. You went to

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Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October, offer some

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words of appreciation for the United States of America and

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the president who's trying to save your country.

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Speaker 6: Please, you're seeing that if you will, speak were loudly

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about the war.

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Speaker 7: He's not speaking loudly. He's not speaking loudly. Your country

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is in big trouble. No, No, you've done a lot

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of talking. Your country is in big trouble. I know

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you're not winning. You're not winning this. You have a

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damn good chance of coming out. Okay, because of the president.

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We're seeing, you know what, country staying strong. From the

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very beginning of the war. We've been alone and.

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Speaker 3: We are thankle I said, thanks, you haven't been giving it.

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Speaker 2: We gave you, this stupid president three hundred and fifty

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billion dollars.

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Speaker 3: You will.

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Speaker 2: We gave you military equipment. You and you better brave.

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But they had to use our military, one of.

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Speaker 1: Us if you didn't have Oh my gosh, he just

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laid hands on Trump. They are sitting. They're leaning into

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each other. Okay, they're only like, I mean, the chairs

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are only like three feet apart. They're both sitting up

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on the edge of the seats. Zelensky's leaning forward, Trump

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is leaning forward and he's Trump is doing the thing

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with the finger, you know where he points it up

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and he threwt like the bottom of the heel of

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the hand is kind of moving forward. And at that

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point he puts his hands on Zelenski and I've never

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seen anything like it.

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Speaker 6: Woo.

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Speaker 1: All right, I have no idea where this is going, folks,

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just be aware. We may I don't know. I don't

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think there's any cussing going on here, but just be ready.

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We may have to dump out if somebody utters a

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bad word for FCC violation, purposes, whatever, because I don't

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get to a couple of emails here. From what we

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have heard so far, there is more Trump meeting with Zelenski,

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Kirk says Pete. If nothing else, there's been more transparency

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in the first month and a half than in the

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entire three terms of Obama three terms, because that would

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be Obama and then Joe. Yeah. I mean that's the thing,

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Like you would you have preferred them to sit there

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in front of the fireplace just say nice things about

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each other and then have Trump lean over and you

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know say, by the way, tell your boss Vladimir Putin. Well,

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I guess this would be if he was meeting with

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you know, Medvidyev like Obama didn He says, ah, more

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flexibility after the election. You know, do you want that

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kind of stuff going on? Trump is just he's just

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all out there. It's just like not hiding anything. This

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is like, this is what I'm here for. Dennis says,

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if this meeting continues the way it started, I would

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expect the White House to go to pay per view

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to decrease the national debt. They could make some money.

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John saying, wow, JD coming in hot off the top rope.

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The only missing was jd uh okay saying shut your

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I'll just say shut your mouth, all right, So let's

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pick it back up. Trump Zelenski in the gold chairs

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in front of the fireplace. Media gathered all around, and

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now they're yelling at each other. Trump has got the

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finger pointing going in Zelenski's face, saying you have no

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cards to play. Zelenski's like, oh, we are not playing cards.

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And I don't know if the maybe the idiom doesn't

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translate very well. But Trump is like, you're gambling with

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World War three, and I think he's right on that.

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By the way, so here again, I haven't heard all

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of this, so we're both hearing it for the first time.

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Speaker 2: You didn't have our military equipment, this war would have

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been over in two weeks.

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Speaker 3: In three days. I heard it from Putin in three days.

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This is how maybe less in two weeks. Of course. Yeah,

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it's going to be a very hard thing to do

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business like this.

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Speaker 2: You say, thank you, I said it except for American.

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Speaker 4: Except that there are disagreements, and let's go litigate those

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disagreements rather than trying to fight it out of the American.

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Speaker 3: Media when you're wrong. We know that you're wrong.

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Speaker 2: But you see, I think it's good for the American

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people to see what's going on.

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Speaker 3: I think it's very important. That's why I kept this

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going so long. You have to be thankful you don't

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have the cars.

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Speaker 2: You're buried there, your people that die tell you you're

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running low on soldiers. Listen, you're running slow on soldiers.

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It would be a damn goodness. And then then you

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tell I don't want to cease fire. I don't want

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to cease fire. I want to go and I wanted this. Look,

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if you could get a ceasefire right now, I tell

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you you take it so the bullets stopped flying, and

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your ment stuff.

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Speaker 3: Courting kills postmen want to stole the war. But I'm

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saying you don't want to see.

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Speaker 2: I want to see because you get a ceasefire faster

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than any breeds.

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Speaker 3: Colored people of all just fire what they see. That

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wasn't me. That wasn't with me.

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Speaker 2: That was with a guy named Biden, who was not

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a smart person.

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Speaker 3: That was that was excuse me.

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Speaker 2: That was with Obama, who gave you sheets, and I

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gave you javelins. I gave you the javelins to take

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out all those tanks.

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Speaker 3: Obama gave you sheets.

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Speaker 2: In fact, the statement is Obama gave sheets and Trump

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gave javelins. You got to be more thankful, because let

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me tell you, you don't have the cards. With us,

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you have the cards, but without us, you don't have

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any cards. He's gonna be a tough deal to make

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because the attitudes have to change. What Russia breaks, He.

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Speaker 3: Said, what are you saying?

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Speaker 4: She's asking what if Russia brings the ceasefire?

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Speaker 3: Well what if they? What if anything? What if a

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bomb drops on your head right now? Okay, what are

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the broke it?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. They broke it with Biden because Biden

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didn't respect him. They didn't respect Obama. They respect me.

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Let me tell you, Putin went through a hell of

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a lot with me. He went through a phony witch

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hunt where they used him in Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.

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You ever hear of that deal? There was a phony

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that was a phony, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, scam, Hillary Clinton,

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shifty Adam Schiff who was a Democrat scam, and he

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had to go through that, and he did go through it.

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Speaker 3: We didn't end up in a war. And he went

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through it. He was accused of all that stuff. Hit

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nothing to do with it.

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Speaker 2: It came out of Hunter Biden's bathroom. It came out

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of Hunter Biden's bedroom. It was disgusting. And then they said,

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oh oh, the laptop from Hell was made by Russia,

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the fifty one agents. The whole thing was a scam

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and he had to put up with that he was

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being accused of all that stuff. All I can say

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is this, he might have broken deals with Obama and Bush,

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and he might have broken them with Biden.

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Speaker 3: He did maybe maybe he did.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what happened, but he didn't break him

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with me.

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Speaker 3: He wants to make a deal.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you can make a deal. The

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problem is I've empowered you to be a tough guy,

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and I don't think you'd be a tough guy without

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the United States. And your people are very brave. But

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you're either going to make a deal or we're out,

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and if we're out, you'll fight it out. I don't

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think it's going to be pretty all right.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop it there because I got to go

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to the news, all right. If you're listening to this show,

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There was supposed to be a news conference today, a

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joint news conference with Zelensky and Trump. It was supposed

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to be at one o'clock. They did this this little

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press gaggle availability thing in the Oval office where they're

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sitting in the Oval office. The press comes in, ask

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a couple questions, they get shuttled out. It degenerated into

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a shouting match between Zelenski and Trump, along with JD. Vance.

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That's the third voice you heard on the on the

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audio there, the one o'clock news conference has apparently been canceled,

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and we're seeing the motorcade has now the Ukrainian's motorcade

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has now come up to the West wing, and the

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report is that they've been kicked out of the White

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House now and then well here, I'll just let me

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go back to the audio because they're not This is

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not done. I don't know how much longer we have

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on this in this exchange. This occurred now, probably it

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started about an hour ago. We're just listening in real

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time to it because it is something I've never seen

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or heard before. I doubt anybody alive has this kind

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of interaction between a foreign leader and the American president

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in the Oval office in front of the media. And

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it all started because Zelensky came in asking about security guarantees,

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and that's what prompted Trump. You heard him say, you

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know you're gambling with World War three. Oh no, my

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device just ran into a problem and it needs to restart.

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That's never happened before. So I guess we're not going

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to listen to any of the audio. Is it rebooting?

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It is rebooting that was very weird. I wonder why

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my laptop just completely went belly up there. I hope

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I'm not hacked. Wait a minute, I was talking about

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the intelligence community in the first hour. Is this is

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this the NSA? Are you guys? Are you taking over

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my computer here? Is that what's happening here? Just let

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me know if I mean, if that's the case, just

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shut it down again, if that's what y'all are doing,

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and then I'll know, or just you know, write me

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an email for my own account something like that. Uh yeah,

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I'm not going to be able to probably find the

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spot in this audio quickly enough. Yes, I know my

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computers shut down and probably it is now it's it's

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booted back up, but I am aware. No, I cannot

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open the the c span back up. But there's a

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apparently there's a reporter named Brian Glenn. I don't know

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who this guy is. Let me see here, because he

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asked Zelenski the very question that I have been asking

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for a very long time. He uh, yeah, here it is.

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I got it, all right, Brian Glenn.

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Speaker 2: Second quit my second question for president?

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Speaker 3: Do you ever why don't you wear a suit? Why

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don't you wear a suit. You're the highest level in

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this country.

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Speaker 2: Is all for the same.

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Speaker 3: You refuse to wear a suit. I just want to

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see if you do own a suit. Yes, yeah, problems.

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A lot of Americans have problems with you. I don't have.

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Speaker 6: I will wear quotum after this war, we'll finish. Yes,

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maybe maybe something, Maybe it's something like yours. Yes, maybe

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it's something better. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: We will see.

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Speaker 6: Maybe it's something cheaper than yeah.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: So no answer for that. He has no answer for

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why he won't wear a suit. That's not Although I

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don't know if this is after hashing it out as

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he just did with with the president. I don't know

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if if he was in a mood to answer that question,

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but I think it's a fair question. The guy never

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wears a suit. He came into the Memory, came into

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the House of Representatives, he came before Congress, remember, and

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he didn't wear a suit for that either. And I'm sorry,

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but it is a sign of disrespect. I feel like

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I do. Everybody else is wearing suits and ties. There's

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a dress code, and you're the only person like in

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the world that gets to come in And well, I

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shouldn't say that I shouldn't say that because there's probably

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like if they have people from like Middle Eastern countries,

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they come in sometimes and they're wearing the I don't

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know what they're called. I was gonna say dresses, but

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I know they don't. That's I don't mean to be insulting.

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I don't know what the term robes that's better, maybe

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better word like they're wearing robes right there. So is

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this like the Ukrainian like cultural garb that I'm wearing.

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He's he's wearing the sweat and the fatigue pants, he's

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wearing those. He did say the word costume. I mean

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I didn't I didn't want to say costume. He said

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the word costume, but he was talking about costume like

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you're wearing a suit, like that's a costume. So I

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don't know, that's not a very good He did not

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have a good answer for that. But I do have

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to wonder if that's the first time he's ever been

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asked that question. I feel like it's a good question.

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I mean, like I'm in a point now. All right,

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look let me throw this out there. Okay, let me

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throw you out my conspiracy theory. Is it possible that

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while the feelings are real, the frustrations are real. Right,

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this does make it appear that Ukraine has to be

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dragged to the negotiation table, right, that Trump is strong

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arming Ukraine? Okay, And if that's the case, does that

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make Putin more willing to come to the table because

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Putin doesn't have to I'm not sure. People. I know

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there are a lot of people out there that are, like,

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you know, Putin's losing this war. He's not. The Russians

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are not the Russians. I heard the stat the other day,

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like the amount of bodies that Russia threw at the Nazis, millions,

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millions of people slaughtered in World War Two. On the

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Russian side. They have nuclear weapons as well. Right, they

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had a lot of problems. Russian military still has a

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lot of problems. They've adapted. In fact, if you want

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a good analysis, this is where I heard it actually Triggernometry.

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They had Eric Prince, the guy who founded Blackwater, and

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he breaks down what's going on on the battlefield with

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Russia and Ukraine. And if Russia wants to wipe Ukraine

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completely off the map, they could do so. And I

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feel like people are overlooking that. In a lot of

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this stuff. And so if you're trying to create a

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lane for Putin to come to the table, not lose face,

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and stop the war on his side for however long,

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I don't know whatever, I don't know what the terms

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of the deal look like. But does this help get

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them to that point? Like Zelensky came here, so obviously

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there was a thought that there was some sort of

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a deal to be had. Now I don't know if

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they still can, if that what we just saw there

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is now ruined all of it, I don't know. But

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if you're asking the Americans to be sort of the

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the negotiator in the middle, this mediator between Russia and Ukraine,

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of the or everything that you needed to hear. You've heard,

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so all right, let's go to the phones here. First

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up is Andy. Hello, Andy, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 8: Thank you for taking my call. I sure say ten things,

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but I'm just gonna say too, Elon Musk never wears

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a suit.

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Speaker 1: Not true.

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Speaker 8: It is disrespecting.

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Speaker 1: That's not true.

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Speaker 8: Well, Elon Musk walked into the Oval office with his

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very young son, right, and Musk was wearing a baseball

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cap and a T shirt.

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Speaker 1: And a what and also know Andy, hang on Andy,

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he was also wearing what? What else was he wearing?

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Speaker 3: All?

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Speaker 8: All that's important is what I just said.

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Speaker 1: No, he was wearing a jacket. He had a jacket.

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I had a blazer on.

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Speaker 8: Well, yeah, and I can wear I can wear my

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jacket with a torn T shirt and a pair of

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blue jeans, and that's not disrespectful.

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Speaker 1: Right. Do you think that Elon Musk is the Do

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you think Elon Musk is a world leader that's coming

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in to ask Donald Trump to help stop a war.

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Do you think Elon Musk would wear a suit out

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of like, say, an inauguration, because he did. If he

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was speaking in front of the Congress, do you think

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he'd wear a suit.

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Speaker 8: I'm just pointing out the mistake that you made.

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Speaker 1: Which is which is the mistake? Which is the mist

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What was the mistake?

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Speaker 8: Because because you respect the office of the President of

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the United States, regardless of who is there and you

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go to the Oval office with a suit and tie on.

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Speaker 1: Right, And so when I pointed that out right, and

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so when I pointed that out, you want to play

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what about Elon Musk?

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Speaker 8: Now I got my here's my second point.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I'm not done with your first Andy. I mean,

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I got time. So I'm not done with your first point.

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So your first point is that what about Elon?

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Speaker 8: My first point is that you are criticizing Zelenski, and

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I believe that he is sending a message to the

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world that he is in battle.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So that's always where.

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Speaker 8: What he's wearing, because he is sending a message to

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the world that I am in battle. Okay, And I

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love him for that.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So you love him for the fact that he

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refuses to wear a suit when he comes to the

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Oval office. But do you find a disrespectful that Elon

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Musk didn't?

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Speaker 8: Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So why do you have a why do you

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have a So why do you have a double standard?

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Speaker 8: One is a US citizen who works for the president

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who should respect the office.

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Speaker 1: And Zelensky is not someone who should respect the office.

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Speaker 8: He respected the office. He doesn't need to do so

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wearing a suit. I don't think I've ever seen him

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in a suit.

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Speaker 1: No, that's what, and that's why the reporter asked him. Okay,

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and that's what and I think and and that's why,

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that's why everybody's asking. So I think you playing the

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what about game with Elon Musk. You like you're trying

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to hold it up or assert it, although you haven't

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explicitly said it, but I sense that's that that this

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is the beef is that there's a double standard for

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Zelenski versus Musk, that that Zelenski gets criticized for not

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wearing a suit in the Oval office, but Musk doesn't

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get criticized for that. And I would just point out

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that you too have the same double standard, but in reverse.

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That's all good. So if you're done with that point,

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we can move to that and we could disagree on that,

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but that that we disagree. Yeah, that's fine. You're okay

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with some double standards.

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Speaker 8: No, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I yeah you are.

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Speaker 8: It's not a double standard, Sure it is. No, it's

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not a double standard. Of course it is because neither

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because one is a US citizen.

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Speaker 1: That's the line, and that's the line that's the line,

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is the line being a US citizen.

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Speaker 8: That's right, because in Saudi Arabia, in Saudi Arabia, when

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our US leaders met in order to resolve a dispute

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involving Ukraine, and Ukraine wasn't even present. Were those Saudi

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leaders wearing a suit.

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Speaker 1: They weren't in the Oval Office, they were in Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 8: That doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Well, absolutely, it matters. It absolutely matters.

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Speaker 8: So you're telling me that those Saudi leaders, if they

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come to the United States are gonna wear suits.

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Speaker 1: Some do, of course not, some know, Andy, Andy, some do,

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sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. And in fact, if

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you were listening, and if you were listening, I literally

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said that. I literally pointed out that other leaders come

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and when they are dressed up in their cultural heritage attire,

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then that's appropriate. This is not a cultural or heritage

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attire though, as you said, and I agree with you,

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by the way, I agree with you that his attires,

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Zelenski's attire is meant to convey this image that he's

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fighting in war, and so that's why he keeps wearing

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the same outfit all the time as if he is

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in war. I literally said all of those things.

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Speaker 8: Second point, what would the world be saying today if

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everything were switched and Kamala Harris had retained George Soros

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to do everything that Elon Musk is doing.

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Speaker 1: Question for you, So George Soros would not be trying

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to save taxpayer money, he would be spending.

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Speaker 8: Okay, assume George Soros takes the responsibility and the authority

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that Elon Musk has. What would you be saying about

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what authority?

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Speaker 1: So I can tell Andy, I can tell you what

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I would say because I have been saying it because

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the Democrat Party has already done that. They've been doing

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it for a very long time.

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Speaker 3: See.

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Speaker 1: But the difference is is that Soros, by the way,

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would he wear a suit? Is he a citizen? Never Mind,

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the the Soros example is not going to make the

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point you think it makes because George Soros has anti

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American sentiment behind his uh his expressions of power, Whereas

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Musk is going in there to try to save the

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taxpayer dollars because he recognizes we are on a path

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to economic collapse.

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Speaker 8: Now he is going in there to make himself even

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more rich.

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Speaker 1: Because he is I know, that's what the left says.

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Speaker 8: The government, and he's going to deregulate that. He's gonna

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deregulate Crypto so that he is able to make millions

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of when.

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Speaker 1: He does that, Andy, when he does Andy, when he

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when he attempts to do that sort of stuff. I

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think you'll have a point. But right now you're just

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making up stuff.

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Speaker 8: He's already done it.

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Speaker 1: Now he deregulated Crypto. He deregulated Crypto.

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Speaker 8: No, No, my first point about his contract with the

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United States government in order to facilitate communication.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Starling deal. Well, and why was that and

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why was that?

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Speaker 8: That is a that is a conflict of interest that

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he should he should either get out of his own businesses,

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get out of all of them, or he should he

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should get out of that contract because it's a clear

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conflict of interest because he is it a conflict of dollars.

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Speaker 1: So would it be so would it be a conflict

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of interest for all of the uh the NGOs that

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George Soros has funded, right to get all of those

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contracts that they have been getting the.

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Speaker 8: Billion absolutely positively done.

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Speaker 1: So when Elon comes in and finds them, So, when

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Elon's team comes in and they find all of the stuff,

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and they're rooting out all of the the waste, fraud

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and abuse and all of the people that have been

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revolving through Democrats politics and elected office and going to

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NGOs getting the government contracts and kind of recycling through

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over and over again. You think all of that in

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the Democrat Party infrastructure is all conflict of interest?

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Speaker 8: Well, oh, I forgot. I didn't realize that George Soros

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was work for administration.

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Speaker 1: No, they worked for him. They worked for him. Did

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you not see? Did you not see that he doesn't

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they work for him?

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Speaker 8: Now when was no employee of the administration.

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk isn't an employee. Elon Musk is not an employee.

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Speaker 8: Oh, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Is welcome. No, he's not an employee. Just Andy, your Andy, Andy, No, Andy,

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he isn't. He's donating his time and his expertise and

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his service and his teams and stuff. He's not drawing

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a paycheck for any of this. And you're saying he's

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going to make all of the money later, and this

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is all what's going to happen. I deal with the

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stuff that has occurred that I know has occurred, that

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we can prove has occurred, and you don't have any

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of the proof of any of that. And the FAA

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thing or the uh the starlink deal that you're talking

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about was actually due to a the collapse of a

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of a comm system and that's what he is offering

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to replace Elon. He did this in Western We're to

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Carolina as well, and I'm up against the news. But

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like your hatred of Elon is noted, your double standard

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for the dress code is noted. I appreciate the call.

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All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you

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