WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.399 --> 00:00:04.160 What if sanctuary wasn't just a place, but a way 2 00:00:04.240 --> 00:00:08.679 of living. Welcome to the Sanctuary Network, your weekly home 3 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:12.599 for conversations that awaken the heart, heal the body, and 4 00:00:12.720 --> 00:00:17.000 inspire the spirit. I'm your host, Mary Ellen Poppick, the 5 00:00:17.079 --> 00:00:21.920 creator of Spiritfest and the Natural Wellness expos. For two decades, 6 00:00:21.920 --> 00:00:25.760 I've been creating spaces, now creating a bold new broadcast 7 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:30.000 from Mind, Body and Spirit, where seekers, healers, and teachers 8 00:00:30.039 --> 00:00:34.399 come together to share wisdom, laughter, and transformation. We've seen 9 00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:39.439 what happens when communities gather, people become enlivened. Now, through 10 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:43.119 the Sanctuary Network, that same spirit is reaching you wherever 11 00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:45.759 you are in the world. Each week, we'll sit down 12 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:50.280 with thought leaders, authors, and everyday visionaries. Will also shine 13 00:00:50.320 --> 00:00:53.759 a light on the grassroots voices of the Sanctuary marketplace, 14 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:58.399 the healers, vendors, and practitioners who make this movement thrive. 15 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:03.039 This isn't just another show. It's your sanctuary, a space 16 00:01:03.119 --> 00:01:07.280 to pause, reflect and reconnect with what matters most. So 17 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:11.760 take a deep breath, open your heart and join me together. 18 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:25.120 Let's step into the Sanctuary. Welcome everybody to the Sanctuary 19 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:28.079 for Mind, Body, and Spirit. We have a very interesting 20 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:31.439 show because this is something I don't think anybody else 21 00:01:31.519 --> 00:01:36.400 is really talking about, very underrated event, the sy Games, 22 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:40.760 and I first heard about it last year from my 23 00:01:40.840 --> 00:01:43.400 friend Anne Marie, who I'm going to give a proper 24 00:01:43.400 --> 00:01:47.959 interdeconduction to in just a few minutes. But there's a 25 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:51.079 lot of great conferences and events and things going on, 26 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:54.359 but some of it is kind of the same stuff 27 00:01:54.480 --> 00:01:57.400 year after year. It's good stuff, and we've got really 28 00:01:57.400 --> 00:02:00.040 good speakers, but this is something new and different, and 29 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:03.680 I really feel like on the echelon of where we're 30 00:02:03.719 --> 00:02:08.560 going with our abilities to communicate with each other in 31 00:02:08.719 --> 00:02:11.840 the world and in the language. So, as I said, 32 00:02:11.879 --> 00:02:16.080 I'm going to give a proper welcome to Anne Marie Hennessy. 33 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:20.919 She is a life coach, a consciousness explorer, and the 34 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:24.800 founder of Evolved with Joy. Her work focuses on helping 35 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:28.919 people explore healing, personal transformation, and the deeper dimensions of 36 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:33.120 human experience. She's a veteran of the Monroe Institute and 37 00:02:33.199 --> 00:02:37.919 has a particular interest in consciousness, intuition and PSI phenomena. 38 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:41.599 She recently attended the Side Games for the second time. 39 00:02:41.639 --> 00:02:44.840 I believe is that is that accurate. That is true, 40 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:48.879 so welcome and thank you for being here. And how 41 00:02:48.919 --> 00:02:52.680 we met is also just kind of a crazy synchronicity too. 42 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:57.159 We just our fresh off of Spirit Fast Jacksonville, which 43 00:02:57.280 --> 00:02:59.680 was on the Lions Gate, and when we were doing 44 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:02.400 we always do an opening circle, and we were in that. 45 00:03:03.280 --> 00:03:07.479 I was reminding people that miracles are happening every day now, 46 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:10.919 and they're not just possible, they're probable. And I really 47 00:03:10.960 --> 00:03:13.319 think that some of these synchronicities about how we come 48 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:15.599 into each other's lives and how you meet the right 49 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:19.639 people and everything really is very miraculous. Sometime, so you 50 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:22.759 met one of the special speakers that we had at 51 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:25.680 our show last year in Punta Gorda, and you were 52 00:03:25.759 --> 00:03:28.840 kind enough to bring his books to him and Punta Gorda, 53 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:31.159 And then it turned out that we had actually known 54 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:33.319 each other because you're from Orlando and we had met 55 00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:36.639 before because you used to be a restaurant owner of 56 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:39.639 one of my daughter's favorite restaurants. I said I liked 57 00:03:39.639 --> 00:03:41.560 it too, but I say that because it was her 58 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:46.400 particular favorite. So so anyway, so now you know, once 59 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:49.240 we sort of saw the crossover, you've sold your restaurant 60 00:03:49.719 --> 00:03:53.439 and now you created Evolved with joy So before we 61 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:57.719 really launch into the side games, tell us just a 62 00:03:57.759 --> 00:04:00.360 little bit about Evolved with joy What you're now that 63 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:03.680 you've moved on from the restaurant business, what your passion is. 64 00:04:05.000 --> 00:04:09.000 Well, it's lovely to be here. Thank you for having me, 65 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:12.000 my dear friend. You know, when I was in the 66 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:16.079 restaurant business, one of my favorite aspects of doing that 67 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:19.720 was working with my staff. And we had the restaurant 68 00:04:19.720 --> 00:04:21.839 for thirty years, and I had staff members with me 69 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:25.439 the longest one was like twenty two years, and so 70 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:28.000 that ability to kind of be with them on their 71 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:30.759 life journey and see what was going on and helping 72 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:33.879 encourage them and dream big, and you know, that was 73 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:36.480 sort of one of the aspects that I truly liked 74 00:04:36.519 --> 00:04:39.800 the most. And so when I sold the restaurant, I 75 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:41.720 knew that that was a passion I had and I 76 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:42.959 was going to continue to do that. 77 00:04:43.319 --> 00:04:43.839 So of all but. 78 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:46.959 Joyce started off, the concept was it would just be 79 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:49.879 a coaching practice, you know, And I say just a 80 00:04:49.959 --> 00:04:53.000 coaching practice is if that's not significant. What I wasn't 81 00:04:53.040 --> 00:04:55.920 prepared for was the metaphysical journey that I would be 82 00:04:55.959 --> 00:04:59.680 going on and how that would be incorporated into if 83 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:04.319 All with Joy and that I would actually be interacting 84 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:07.519 with folks who do have sigh abilities. I would experience 85 00:05:07.519 --> 00:05:12.519 PSI phenomena myself and really help people look at healing 86 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:17.639 but also developing intuition or you know, what type of 87 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:22.199 things do you perceive in your life that can help 88 00:05:22.240 --> 00:05:24.519 you make choices in ways that maybe you wouldn't have 89 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:28.120 that maybe aren't linear, you know, linear thought things like that. 90 00:05:28.480 --> 00:05:32.720 You know, So Ifolf with Joy is a coaching healing 91 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:36.399 practice that acknowledges that we are quite more than our 92 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:37.279 physical bodies. 93 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:42.839 And absolutely there's interesting things out there, and I want 94 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:45.720 to touch on what PSI phenomena is. It's p s 95 00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:50.000 I SI, but it's basically esp or psychic abilities. And 96 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:53.360 that's what the whole goal of that conference was was 97 00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:56.560 to focus on how new ways and different things that 98 00:05:56.600 --> 00:06:00.519 people are using and able to do so. And one 99 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:02.600 of the reasons I was really excited to have you 100 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:06.360 on the show was because other people have their trajectory 101 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:09.959 where they get into spiritual learning and you sort of 102 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:14.360 have had an express route because where you are in 103 00:06:14.399 --> 00:06:18.319 your life. Once you sold the restaurant, you can now 104 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:21.240 just immerse yourself in it. Whereas a lot of people 105 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:23.800 might go to one event or read some books, they 106 00:06:23.800 --> 00:06:25.839 don't really maybe have a lot of people to talk to. 107 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:27.480 But you just dove right in, didn't you. 108 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:28.800 I did. 109 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:31.959 I did, And I can say that it was something 110 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:34.759 that I was doing for probably the last ten years 111 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:40.600 before selling the restaurant, okay, a meditation practice that it 112 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:42.759 evolved over time to where I was at the point 113 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:45.199 of evolving probably I mean meditating an hour in the 114 00:06:45.199 --> 00:06:48.000 morning and an hour in the evening, and I was 115 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:51.319 connecting with things that I didn't necessarily understand and getting 116 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:54.879 downloads of information. And that was all still while owning 117 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:55.399 the restaurant. 118 00:06:56.120 --> 00:06:56.439 Wow. 119 00:06:56.560 --> 00:07:01.079 So as I transitioned out of that, that was still 120 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:03.600 part of my life path and part of my passion. 121 00:07:03.639 --> 00:07:06.160 I didn't necessarily understand that point that it was going 122 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:09.279 to come into this coaching practice that I thought I 123 00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:10.759 was going to have. I didn't realize how they were 124 00:07:10.759 --> 00:07:12.720 going to merge in the way that they have now. 125 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:17.240 And generally I think that's how that happens is our 126 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:19.959 guides give us what we can handle at the time, 127 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:21.879 not necessarily the whole picture at once. 128 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:26.480 Right, Yes, yes, be careful what you asked for, because 129 00:07:26.480 --> 00:07:29.720 you will get it. But that is a good way 130 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:31.759 to look at it too. And spirit knows best, and 131 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:33.959 so when we don't force it, when we don't push it. 132 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:37.399 So let's touch al So before we get into the 133 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:41.560 side games, recap about the Monroe Institute, because they're doing 134 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:43.399 very interesting work there as well. 135 00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:47.680 Absolutely, and I can say that anybody who's been on 136 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:50.399 a spiritual journey for a long time. One of the 137 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:53.120 things I don't think it's talked about enough is when 138 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:57.800 people experience, you know, some measures of spiritual crisis, like 139 00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:01.040 when you really head down the spetish physical journey, there 140 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:03.319 are times where you will encounter things that you don't understand. 141 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:10.639 And I definitely encountered that in the most amazing positive ways. 142 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:14.079 And I kind of talk about the yogic practice. Yogic 143 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:16.399 practices that can result in what people call like the 144 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:20.920 state of Samadi or that super blissful state. And I've 145 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:22.680 kind of gotten to a place where I was walking 146 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:25.439 around pretty blissed out a lot of the time, you know, 147 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:30.319 which is amazing. Maybe not so perfect for running a business, 148 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:36.360 but you know, you look at it's a growth, it's 149 00:08:36.360 --> 00:08:38.679 a growth journey, you know, you're on that growth journey. 150 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:41.360 And in the midst of that growth journey, I had 151 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:44.480 what I call now the collapse, And it was kind 152 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:49.159 of an emotional contraction that happened from you know, just 153 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:53.639 some unhealed wounds inside myself that made all that stuff 154 00:08:53.720 --> 00:08:56.159 kind of come, you know, to a real abrupt halt. 155 00:08:56.919 --> 00:08:59.240 And it felt very scary. 156 00:08:59.240 --> 00:09:02.159 And also very very common. When you're on your spiritual journey. 157 00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:04.639 You exactly have to let go right of the what 158 00:09:04.679 --> 00:09:05.519 we don't need. 159 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:10.639 Exactly and what People don't realize that this is absolutely common, 160 00:09:10.639 --> 00:09:12.440 and they get very scared and they don't understand that 161 00:09:12.480 --> 00:09:15.399 this honestly is part of the path. And I recognize 162 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:16.960 at that point that I was doing very much of 163 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:19.960 this completely on my own. There wasn't really it wasn't 164 00:09:19.960 --> 00:09:21.840 a part of my community. None of my friends were 165 00:09:21.840 --> 00:09:23.879 doing this, My family was not kind of in this mode. 166 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:27.360 It was me in my bedroom, meditating by myself. And 167 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:32.519 after that sort of contraction and emotional struggle, I realized 168 00:09:32.519 --> 00:09:36.840 I needed appropriate mentors, and I went looking and I 169 00:09:36.960 --> 00:09:41.440 started to I struggled to find somebody that had really 170 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:43.720 gone down this pathway knew the types of things I 171 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:47.240 was experiencing, but was also not asking me to adopt 172 00:09:47.320 --> 00:09:52.960 any particular belief structure. And my undergraduate degrees in microbiology, 173 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:57.080 I have a very analytical mind. And the Monroue Institute 174 00:09:57.159 --> 00:10:00.960 really takes the approach to these this aspect that you 175 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:03.120 are more than your physical body, from a very scientific 176 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:07.720 and logical approach, and that's how I found them. 177 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:11.200 And Robert N. Wrote was a. 178 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:14.120 Really fascinating man, and he created a place where they're 179 00:10:14.120 --> 00:10:19.480 studying all manner of consciousness events and teaching people how 180 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:23.240 to explore their own consciousness without requiring you to buy 181 00:10:23.240 --> 00:10:25.799 into somebody else's framework. He gives you a set of 182 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:30.039 tools and says, go explore, see what you discover. And 183 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:31.240 that's fascinating. 184 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:35.720 Something that I enjoy is that these are not your 185 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:41.440 average people. These are big grown men that are not 186 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:44.759 really the type of people you think were into the WU. 187 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:49.519 I mean obviously in women too, but just not the 188 00:10:49.559 --> 00:10:52.480 people that typically fit the mold that go to the 189 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:56.919 spiritual conferences and things like that. These are people that 190 00:10:57.159 --> 00:11:01.320 I would, from their personality think that would probably dismiss 191 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:04.679 something they couldn't prove or hold in their hand. And 192 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:07.679 this to me lends to the credence of the work 193 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:12.480 that they're doing there, that it is tangible, and it is. 194 00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:16.799 They have a research division. There's a tremendous amount of 195 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:22.039 research that goes on. They have, They've done a lot 196 00:11:22.039 --> 00:11:28.120 of work with people will hear about the Monroe Institute 197 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:32.440 very often from remote viewing, yes, yes, and then they 198 00:11:32.440 --> 00:11:34.879 go down the rabbit of remote viewing, and then they 199 00:11:34.879 --> 00:11:39.320 go out down the rabbit hole of you know, psychic spies, 200 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:42.960 and so then there's a military connection. And then that's 201 00:11:44.159 --> 00:11:44.639 how I was. 202 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:46.960 Trying to describe that as more of the military type, 203 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:52.039 very serious and not sort of you know, you know, 204 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:54.799 blowing in the wind, which some of us in the 205 00:11:54.840 --> 00:12:00.559 spiritual fields may appear. So they're doing really great work 206 00:12:00.600 --> 00:12:03.600 there too. So that's what I was thinking was people 207 00:12:03.600 --> 00:12:06.960 can also research. So what the takeaways from this? We're 208 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:09.600 gonna have Jim Viera come on shortly too. He was 209 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:12.240 one of the speakers there, but he also has some 210 00:12:12.279 --> 00:12:16.960 synchronicities too with why he was there and what he 211 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:21.240 was speaking on. But I want to talk about the 212 00:12:21.279 --> 00:12:26.159 different speakers and the different takeaways from so what really 213 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:28.879 and the only reason I didn't go we had a 214 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:31.039 show in Jacksonville this past weekend and it was just 215 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:33.960 too close. But I noticed that they are not sure 216 00:12:34.039 --> 00:12:36.320 what the dates are next year, so I am waiting 217 00:12:36.360 --> 00:12:37.919 to see as soon as they announce it so that 218 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:41.039 we can go next year because I'd love for Spiritfest 219 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:42.759 people to be able to go. This is really a 220 00:12:42.840 --> 00:12:48.080 high level event with such cutting edge new information. But 221 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:51.519 what really drew me to what you described last year 222 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:54.000 was the people from the telepathy tapes, people that were 223 00:12:54.000 --> 00:13:02.039 born blind or that were nonverbal that can that telek 224 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:05.440 or psychic abilities where they hold up signs where they 225 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:08.559 describe some of the things that you observed last year. 226 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:12.799 So vision without eyes or mind sight is one of 227 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:16.799 the categories of the Side Games, and it is the 228 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:21.159 ability to perceive visual information without being able to see. 229 00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:25.200 And in fact, I brought a I don't know if 230 00:13:25.240 --> 00:13:28.360 you can see this, So this is called mind fold 231 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:31.960 and it's a type of blindfold that is it's plastic. 232 00:13:32.559 --> 00:13:35.879 It's a hard plastic with you know, a phoam backing 233 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:38.879 on it. And this was the one that they had 234 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:40.399 at the side Games. You can see that that that 235 00:13:40.519 --> 00:13:42.720 on there, that's the logo for the side Games. But 236 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:45.799 if you can imagine a group of people with a 237 00:13:45.799 --> 00:13:50.360 mindfold on and sometimes even under that eye patches. So 238 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:52.320 there is truly no way that they are going to 239 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:57.200 receive visual information from their optic nerve, but yet they can. 240 00:13:57.799 --> 00:14:03.159 Last year it was stacking stacking pegs second colors on 241 00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:08.440 four different pegs, you know, and you had these different 242 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:10.440 you know, circles to stack on these pegs, and it 243 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:11.720 was timed and how many kid you get? 244 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:11.919 Right? 245 00:14:12.159 --> 00:14:15.399 Well, this year they upped the ante because so many 246 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:18.879 people were inspired by what they saw. Last year. You 247 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:22.639 had adults going out and learning how to do mindsight, 248 00:14:23.039 --> 00:14:25.039 and so they had they were able to increase the 249 00:14:25.159 --> 00:14:28.879 level of how many pegs they had to be, and 250 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:32.039 how many colors they were doing, and the timing was 251 00:14:32.120 --> 00:14:34.279 and all this kind of stuff. But if you do 252 00:14:34.360 --> 00:14:36.840 any research at all on vision without eyes, you will 253 00:14:36.879 --> 00:14:39.559 realize that they have been teaching this to kids in 254 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:43.240 other countries for quite some time, and they believed that 255 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:46.519 adults couldn't necessarily learn to do it because we were 256 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:49.039 already in the belief that it was impossible. 257 00:14:48.799 --> 00:14:51.240 Right right, They've proven that wrong. 258 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:56.639 So there's a couple of countries vision vision without eyes 259 00:14:56.840 --> 00:14:59.200 is one of them that is out of Canada, but 260 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:04.039 they do conferences teaching this in Orlando. It may not 261 00:15:04.039 --> 00:15:06.039 be on their website yet, but the next one is 262 00:15:06.639 --> 00:15:10.039 I spoke with the founders of it. The next one's 263 00:15:10.080 --> 00:15:11.360 going to be in November. 264 00:15:12.240 --> 00:15:13.639 Okay. 265 00:15:14.039 --> 00:15:17.919 They teach adults this form of visual perception, and this 266 00:15:17.960 --> 00:15:24.120 particular company is also teaching people who are visually impaired 267 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:26.600 or blind to be able to see. And when I 268 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:29.320 say people who get really, really really good at it 269 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:32.679 can see, I mean they can read a book like 270 00:15:32.720 --> 00:15:35.399 there are kids that have been able to really read 271 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:37.440 to you know, see to a level that they can 272 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:40.120 you can pick a book, any book, and any page 273 00:15:40.120 --> 00:15:41.720 and hand it to them and they can actually read 274 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:43.440 it without using their eyes. 275 00:15:44.039 --> 00:15:47.639 I saw a demonstration of it at the Sedona Ascension 276 00:15:47.720 --> 00:15:50.440 retreat in that it was amazing, and it was a 277 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:54.559 man probably in his late twenties who born blind, and 278 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:57.240 she would hold up a simple word on a card 279 00:15:57.279 --> 00:15:59.759 and that everybody in the crowd could see it, and 280 00:15:59.799 --> 00:16:02.279 then he was describing what he was seeing. He was 281 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:06.320 describing the shapes, and that was really interesting was to 282 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:09.759 see what he was seeing. And then I think the 283 00:16:09.879 --> 00:16:13.919 last one was the word b bee and then he said, 284 00:16:13.960 --> 00:16:16.080 I see a line, and I see a circle, and 285 00:16:16.120 --> 00:16:18.200 it's on this side of the circle. He goes, but wait, 286 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:20.360 I know what it is because I see it. So 287 00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:23.360 we saw the bee in her mind? So or or 288 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:26.519 is it? You know, where is he getting the information from? 289 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:29.320 Is he reading her mind or is he sensing it? 290 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:32.320 So with the colors, that would indicate that he's not. 291 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:36.679 They're not reading someone's mind. So where what is the skill? 292 00:16:36.759 --> 00:16:39.159 What is the senses that you are using to be 293 00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:43.279 able to to do this? This is what I mean 294 00:16:43.279 --> 00:16:45.960 that this is so cutting edge, this is so cool. 295 00:16:46.519 --> 00:16:49.360 So there's actual games, that's what you're saying. In addition 296 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:53.559 to all these great speakers, there's actual exercises that everybody's doing. 297 00:16:53.639 --> 00:16:58.039 Right, Well, it's a competition. So the founder of saigaves 298 00:16:58.080 --> 00:17:02.519 Haakim Eisler, really wanted the opportunity to engage your younger 299 00:17:02.559 --> 00:17:06.240 generation with the side phenomena in a new way. And 300 00:17:06.279 --> 00:17:09.200 you know what better way than to create You know 301 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:10.839 that you've got these kids who are used to playing 302 00:17:10.920 --> 00:17:14.240 video games, so he's like, let's create a competition. Let's 303 00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:18.799 make this joyful and fun rather than you know, it 304 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:21.319 had been being studied in a scientific research setting and 305 00:17:21.880 --> 00:17:26.119 found that the stuff truly is you know, psychokinesis, spoon bending, 306 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:29.440 you know, things moving things with your mind like those 307 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:31.559 things were being studied and they're like, this is real. 308 00:17:31.880 --> 00:17:34.079 There are people who are doing this. How do we 309 00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:36.960 get it out there so that the public can engage 310 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:38.880 with it in a way that they will be inspired 311 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:42.440 to stretch their own mind and their own abilities. And 312 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:46.160 that's how the Side Games were born. But they did 313 00:17:47.079 --> 00:17:56.480 remote viewing, precognition, dowsing, psychokinesis, and mindsight actual competitions during 314 00:17:56.680 --> 00:17:58.319 last year and this year in the games. 315 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:02.680 I think I know the answer, but how would you describe? 316 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:06.920 How does that benefit us on our spiritual journey learning 317 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:10.599 to be able to use these gifts. 318 00:18:11.400 --> 00:18:14.039 I think that one of the most inspiring parts of 319 00:18:14.119 --> 00:18:18.240 it to me is it is a physical and tangible 320 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:21.279 way to believe that we are more than our three 321 00:18:21.279 --> 00:18:28.039 dimensional selves, right, you know it is it's undeniable when 322 00:18:28.079 --> 00:18:31.759 you see some of these things take place, that it's 323 00:18:31.759 --> 00:18:33.519 happening right in front of you, and then as you 324 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:37.400 learn to do them, you truly begin to believe that 325 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:40.039 you are a magical being, that you are capable of 326 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:44.119 far more than you would give yourself credit for absolutely. 327 00:18:44.119 --> 00:18:47.680 And then I also feel like that we then rely 328 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:50.319 on our intuition more so when we do get those 329 00:18:50.359 --> 00:18:53.119 promptings from our guides, from spirit, our higher self, or 330 00:18:53.720 --> 00:18:57.359 you know, some of us are actually having entities speak 331 00:18:57.400 --> 00:19:01.440 to us, like Chris blood Cell. I can't wait to 332 00:19:01.480 --> 00:19:06.599 talk about him as well they you know, then that 333 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:11.240 would reinforce, that would leave less room for doubt. I think. 334 00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:14.200 I think when we first start hearing from our guides 335 00:19:14.359 --> 00:19:16.920 or getting messages given to us, I think all of 336 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:18.680 us go through that little thing where we wonder if 337 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:22.359 we're crazy. But I had been having it since I 338 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:25.039 was little, and then again used to talk to my 339 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:26.759 mother about it, and then one day she laughed at 340 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:28.279 me in a way that I knew she thought it 341 00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:32.720 was a game, you know. So it's good to be 342 00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:37.440 able to have that verifiable, you know thing. So who 343 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:40.359 stood out for you as some of the top speakers 344 00:19:40.359 --> 00:19:41.599 that you heard over. 345 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:44.839 The weekend, Well, I can say that having been there 346 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:48.200 last year, I made some connections with folks that I 347 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:50.319 really wanted to have an opportunity to talk with again. 348 00:19:51.079 --> 00:19:53.599 And so some of the time was you know, there 349 00:19:53.599 --> 00:19:55.920 were speakers in different locations. There were workshops that people 350 00:19:55.920 --> 00:20:00.839 could take, and then there was a lobby area with 351 00:20:01.079 --> 00:20:03.440 booths you know that people kind of like Siegames nearly 352 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:06.240 as large as that that where people were mill around 353 00:20:06.359 --> 00:20:09.440 and reconnect and talk about things that they were passionate about. 354 00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:11.039 So there was a lot of activity in a lot 355 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:13.799 of places you could go. So I went to fewer 356 00:20:13.839 --> 00:20:14.440 talks this. 357 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:17.759 Time because I had more in. 358 00:20:17.680 --> 00:20:22.319 Depth conversations that I wanted to have. But I am 359 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:25.960 I'm a researcher in my heart, you know, I'm a scientist. 360 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:30.440 So Thomas Campbell is a consciousness researcher who is actually 361 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:32.759 the reason I went to Sigons last year was because 362 00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:35.519 I wanted to hear him speak, and everything else was 363 00:20:35.599 --> 00:20:38.519 kind of icing on the cake. Adam Curry is another 364 00:20:38.519 --> 00:20:42.160 consciousness researcher who is If. 365 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:44.640 You google Adam Curry, you might get the VJ from 366 00:20:44.680 --> 00:20:50.279 the old MTV, but he's a you know, it talks 367 00:20:50.279 --> 00:20:53.440 about entangled consciousness Adam M. Curry does, so people want 368 00:20:53.480 --> 00:20:57.200 to check him out. Definitely, recommend absolutely, And so. 369 00:20:58.839 --> 00:21:03.640 The Rizwan uh Sean is also you know, he had 370 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:09.000 a fantastic presentation on the simulation hypothesis of our consciousness, 371 00:21:09.759 --> 00:21:15.119 the demonstrations of mind sight and looking at They actually 372 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:18.599 had people hooked up to a new technology that is 373 00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:23.880 a contactless EEG. They were looking at their brain waves 374 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:28.119 while they were doing the mind side activities you know, 375 00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:30.880 in real time, which was super fascinating. But they had 376 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:32.799 a kid's panel. They had a panel, you know, of 377 00:21:32.920 --> 00:21:37.400 kids who have learned these sieabilities. They had talks on 378 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:42.599 uh dreaming, you know, on unconscious dreaming. They had talks 379 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:48.519 on what sort of pre cognitive what what kind of 380 00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:53.559 precognitive awareness, how to determine what's precognition and what's not 381 00:21:53.720 --> 00:21:56.720 or what's intuition and what's you know, just an aspect 382 00:21:56.759 --> 00:22:02.039 of yourself. And so very ground did opportunities to talk 383 00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:07.000 about a whole wide range of things. I'm a little 384 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:08.720 bit of a science nut, so that was the things 385 00:22:08.759 --> 00:22:12.039 that attracted me. But there was a broad, broad range 386 00:22:12.119 --> 00:22:14.880 of things to choose from. I enjoyed. In fact, I 387 00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:20.119 Sean Webb of the h He wrote a book on 388 00:22:20.279 --> 00:22:24.279 called mind Hacking Happiness, and his most recent book has 389 00:22:24.359 --> 00:22:27.440 just come out. It's called The NHI Connected Mind. And 390 00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:30.519 he was talking about in his talk how important it 391 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:36.720 is for us as a species to help AI have 392 00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:41.640 some measure of connection with emotion and how our connection 393 00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:44.599 with non human intelligence is going to impact the way 394 00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:47.839 we evolve, and that was super fascinating. 395 00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:53.039 On the side, games website is siegames ped that's PSI 396 00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:57.079 Games International dot com and on it you can see 397 00:22:57.079 --> 00:22:59.160 the list of all of the speakers, and I would 398 00:22:59.160 --> 00:23:03.440 recommend people literally look up every single one because every 399 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:05.359 single one of them that's on there is going to 400 00:23:05.440 --> 00:23:08.680 be really high level and has written books, and that 401 00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:12.079