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Speaker 3: You know what time that is, Yeah, what time is it?
Speaker 4: It's time for swamp watch.
Speaker 3: Swamp is horrible.
Speaker 4: The government doesn't come.
Speaker 2: Man, you're gonna make this like a reality TV show.
Speaker 3: A bad bos.
Speaker 4: Always a pleasure to be anywhere from Washington, d C. Hey, Joe.
Speaker 1: A town wall too, clearly built on a swamp and
Speaker 1: in so many ways.
Speaker 3: Still a swamp watching. Malarkey said, drained the swamp. I said,
Speaker 3: Oh that's so hope. Keep you know the thing.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Federal judge on Tuesday denied former President Donald Trump's second
Speaker 1: and last ditch bid to transfer his New York hush
Speaker 1: money case to a federal court.
Speaker 4: He wanted this, but that has now since been denied.
Speaker 1: This means that the ruling will happen, or it is
Speaker 1: expected to happen, for his May conviction a little later
Speaker 1: this month September.
Speaker 4: The eighteenth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of It's interesting because he's arguing that
Speaker 2: he wants it to be a federal trial and to transfer,
Speaker 2: and so he you know, his people and his attorney
Speaker 2: are making that case. But he's saying that the current
Speaker 2: judge is biased there in New York, and the judge
Speaker 2: in this case is saying, you know, that still doesn't
Speaker 2: present a federal question, now justified jurisdiction change or any
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 1: So the judges John Juan Mershaun and he had asked
Speaker 1: the judge to set aside the jury's verdict because it
Speaker 1: allegedly relied on evidence of Trump's quote official and therefore
Speaker 1: immune conduct, but also has requested that the judge delay
Speaker 1: has sentencing until after the November election, and both motions
Speaker 1: are still pending.
Speaker 2: So in the meantime on just strategy, Yeah, if it
Speaker 2: goes to the federal level and he becomes president again,
Speaker 2: then it puts things into a better context and also
Speaker 2: being able to make the argument that it was an
Speaker 2: official act and.
Speaker 3: Then of course he's immune. If there's any problems, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Donald Trump Kamala Harris too close to call in
Speaker 1: two very key battle ground states.
Speaker 4: This is according to a latest poll, a new poll
Speaker 4: from CNN.
Speaker 1: SSRs and these two states versuial tie, Pennsylvania and Georgia.
Speaker 2: And we've seen these going back and forth, and it's
Speaker 2: hard to tell what's real because a lot of people
Speaker 2: will take these a screen grab that looks like it's
Speaker 2: from television and they'll throw up, you know, a bunch
Speaker 2: of different numbers and what have you.
Speaker 3: So we've seen a lot of this.
Speaker 2: How Ever, it has after the big bump that everybody
Speaker 2: gets from the RNC and the DNC, things are kind
Speaker 2: of leveling out and they seem neck and neck in
Speaker 2: a lot of areas, maybe up a point or two here,
Speaker 2: two there, but this is pretty much a dead heat
Speaker 2: in these two major states. So this is going to
Speaker 2: be an interesting part of the race. Of course, the
Speaker 2: rest of us here in southern California. California know that
Speaker 2: if you vote anything other than Democrat, you're kind of
Speaker 2: it's kind of a wasted vote, you know.
Speaker 4: So we are in a royal blue state.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, so it doesn't really matter most of the time, unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean, so the election will be called
Speaker 1: by the top battleground states.
Speaker 4: And I mentioned this on Monday. I do refer to
Speaker 4: Real Clear Politics quite a bit.
Speaker 1: They take the average of you know, X amount of
Speaker 1: polls on a daily basis, and Pennsylvania literally tied. Georgia
Speaker 1: Harris is at point one, so again tie, and most
Speaker 1: of them in fact Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan, in North Carolina.
Speaker 4: You could essentially say that they're all virtual ties right now.
Speaker 1: I mean, because Trump's at point seven in North Carolina,
Speaker 1: Harris is at point six in Nevada.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is all within the margin of error.
Speaker 2: This is depending on where you said, I suppose this
Speaker 2: is going to be an interesting little nail bier.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then there's the question of which, of course
Speaker 1: the Trump camp says, and there is reason to believe
Speaker 1: that it could be happening that Republicans are underpolled in
Speaker 1: many of these polls.
Speaker 4: There's that issue.
Speaker 1: There was evidence of that in twenty sixteen, evidence of
Speaker 1: that in twenty twenty, and you won't know until so.
Speaker 3: Because they have jobs after the fact of when the.
Speaker 1: Election results come out after November the fifth, How off
Speaker 1: or on the polls were right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes better than we've seen things switch. Well, you
Speaker 3: just don't. It is like trying to predict the weather
Speaker 3: it's going to be.
Speaker 4: There are meteorologists for that, yes, but they don't predict it.
Speaker 3: They forecast, Yes, they forecast and then it's wrong.
Speaker 4: Darn it.
Speaker 1: Well not here in Los Angeles seventy two degrees. Well
Speaker 1: right now we're in the heat wave.
Speaker 2: So interestingly, Robert F. Kennedy Junior slammed Vice President Harris
Speaker 2: Candidacy just yesterday, but not on you know, typical. These
Speaker 2: are her her points of interest, This is what she's
Speaker 2: going to do. This one was if she he says
Speaker 2: she's not worthy a worthy president because she doesn't want
Speaker 2: to have an interview or she doesn't do interviews and
Speaker 2: he wants a president who can give an interview.
Speaker 1: Well, the question is is it hurting her the fact
Speaker 1: that she's not doing these interviews. I mean there was
Speaker 1: the big wind ye right, there's the big wind up
Speaker 1: of she hadn't done anything, she's not going in front
Speaker 1: of the cameras. And then last week, of course the
Speaker 1: CNN interview where she didn't even do it alone and
Speaker 1: was chastised for that because she wasn't alone and she
Speaker 1: doesn't take a lot of time out to answer questions,
Speaker 1: unlike Trump, who's in front of a camera all the time.
Speaker 1: In fact, he's doing a town hall tonight with Fox's
Speaker 1: Sean Hannity.
Speaker 2: I just had a vision of like one of those
Speaker 2: head cameras, like with a GoPro that you know, snowboarders
Speaker 2: where whatever.
Speaker 3: That Trump would just.
Speaker 2: Have that on him twenty four to seven idea, and
Speaker 2: you could patch into him at anytime at anytime, just
Speaker 2: the Trump cam, and it's just from that weird point
Speaker 2: of view that looks like the blurring project. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: you're like, what the hell's going on? But I do
Speaker 2: think there's a couple things that are bugging me about
Speaker 2: where we've gone and where we've gotten to rather, I guess,
Speaker 2: and that is that we don't demand as the American
Speaker 2: people debates that that's not built that that's just not
Speaker 2: built in. Hey, if you're the top five or whatever,
Speaker 2: they're going to be debates, period. You don't get to
Speaker 2: decide if you're going to debate or not. Well, has
Speaker 2: to be debates. And two, you have to do interviews.
Speaker 2: You have we deserve to know who you are as
Speaker 2: much as possible and have access to you. And if
Speaker 2: you're not a good speaker, fine, there are there are
Speaker 2: a lot of people that don't speak well, and you
Speaker 2: go lead on that. Listen, I'm not a great speaker.
Speaker 2: These are you know, these are the issues that I
Speaker 2: care about. These, you know, so my partner might be
Speaker 2: you know, it reminds me of Scripture, reminds me of Moses.
Speaker 2: God says, hey, go tell the people this, and he goes, uh,
Speaker 2: I don't talk so good. Why don't you go ask
Speaker 2: my brother? It's like you'll be fine. You know, there's
Speaker 2: sometimes that's that might be your thing. Listen, I'm not
Speaker 2: a fancy talker, right.
Speaker 1: It's just like you're If you're not a good test taker,
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you're stupid exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I get that.
Speaker 3: I believe you deserve to hear some of my thoughts,
Speaker 3: and this is what they are.
Speaker 1: Well, I think about first of all, historically, debates really
Speaker 1: haven't moved the needle until June twenty seventh, and then
Speaker 1: we saw how that moved the needle. So now will
Speaker 1: this debate, which is now six days away and by
Speaker 1: all accounts it's supposed to happen. Although Harris is still
Speaker 1: pushing back on she wants the MIC's open, and Trump's
Speaker 1: team says no, Mike's will be muted fighty twist that. Yeah, really,
Speaker 1: So we'll see if how this would move the needle.
Speaker 1: And I think that it could have a significant impact
Speaker 1: one way or the other. And then also to your
Speaker 1: point about doing interviews just to get a job these days,
Speaker 1: how many interviews do you have to go through absolutely
Speaker 1: to get a job. It's not just one interview. You
Speaker 1: have to go through several interviews by and large. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the person who wants to be the president of the
Speaker 1: United States should should.
Speaker 4: Have to do that as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should have open access to the person who
Speaker 2: wants this job the best of our though.
Speaker 4: Deborah Mark, get Kamala Harris on the line, now, Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm on it.
Speaker 2: She's got it on a speed dial. You know, we
Speaker 2: were talking earlier about the cars. We'll get back to
Speaker 2: some more swamp watch. When we were talking about that,
Speaker 2: knew someome law.
Speaker 1: About already knew if you go over ten miles per hour,
Speaker 1: be on the speed limit.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then we talked about that they have those lane things,
Speaker 2: you know, they're lane things. Yeah, you were saying that they'll, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're going into different lanes. Would that be fun if
Speaker 2: if if if people had those, So like, if some
Speaker 2: guy comes into a man's playing something, it goes, stay
Speaker 2: in your lane, Stay.
Speaker 3: In your lane.
Speaker 4: My radar would be going off NonStop.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be funny every time somebody goes, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: like Cliff Claven or something, it's like, you know, uh,
Speaker 2: it's like stay in your lane, stay in your lane.
Speaker 4: Maybe I would get a kick out of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would get one of those.
Speaker 2: I would all right, so Biden, President, Oh, that's not
Speaker 2: the one I wanted to start with.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't Just where did I put that? This story?
Speaker 3: Which one I just turned in? Oh, it's right here.
Speaker 3: I just turned into Bill Handle. Where's my head? Okay?
Speaker 4: Well, no, you need it for Tata.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was laughing at this story. How Harris and Waltz
Speaker 2: Walls are like channeling this cheesy sitcom buddy cop energy
Speaker 2: on some of the videos and some of the things
Speaker 2: of them. You know, they haven't known each other very long.
Speaker 1: No, in fact, they of all the VP nominees and
Speaker 1: the you know picks going into this, they didn't really
Speaker 1: know each other at all. Whereas she had already established
Speaker 1: the relationship with Joshapiro, for example, and so go ahead.
Speaker 3: So they're saying that this kind of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all of them are sort of artificial, right, the
Speaker 2: kind of like we stand together.
Speaker 4: You and I barely know each other.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, we're not fans at all. It takes us
Speaker 2: so long to look at each other when we do
Speaker 2: the show. We start with our backs, turn and then
Speaker 2: slowly set in the other room. By the fourth hour,
Speaker 2: we're sort of almost thirty five degrees from each other strong,
Speaker 2: but we fake it well. So but you got to
Speaker 2: imagine that when you do that, you're standing for the
Speaker 2: country and in this you know, hey, we're going to
Speaker 2: be sturdy together. We've got each other's back, We've got
Speaker 2: your back. But they have They refer to this Taco's
Speaker 2: video that set the stage. It was released by Kamla
Speaker 2: Harris's and Tim Wall's campaign days before the Democratic Convention,
Speaker 2: and it showed them hanging out. They're chatting at a
Speaker 2: jazz club in Detroit, and you know, they're being pals,
Speaker 2: laughing ahaha, and everything about their differences musical tastes. He
Speaker 2: likes Springsteen and Seeger and she's Aretha and Prince and
Speaker 2: she mocked him for not answering her phone call yet,
Speaker 2: did you hear about that how he didn't even pick
Speaker 2: up the phone when she called originally to yea, so
Speaker 2: come on, Walls, pick up the phone. And then she
Speaker 2: teased him for eating what he calls white guy tacos.
Speaker 5: What is that?
Speaker 3: I don't know what white people tacos are.
Speaker 2: They also refer to him as black people tacos sometimes,
Speaker 2: because it is when you use the hardshell and the
Speaker 2: cheese and the treaded lettuce and the tomato.
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, it's like, well that you can get
Speaker 4: that a taco bell exactly.
Speaker 2: Ingo. So that's basic. They're delicious. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2: I grew up on him as well. There's no shame
Speaker 2: in that game. So they go back and full it's
Speaker 2: and and he referred to when she was joking with him,
Speaker 2: She's like, what does that mean?
Speaker 3: Does that mean like mayonnaise and tuna? And it's like boying,
Speaker 3: you know, like the gonna have catchphrases I didn't do.
Speaker 4: It was that the Super Mario Brothers jingle.
Speaker 2: Kind of but that, you know, that kind of fake camaraderie.
Speaker 2: We're having a great time. We're gonna do the freeze
Speaker 2: frame after we jump up at the end of the
Speaker 2: you know, show and five, and people are saying, it's
Speaker 2: kind of.
Speaker 3: It's kind of getting a notchious.
Speaker 4: Well channeling sort of a cheesy sitcom energy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've seen it, you know, the laughing and
Speaker 2: the and he's kind of reeled down to earth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the sort of Brady bunch, the blended family, the
Speaker 1: cool woman, the dorky guy sort of a thing.
Speaker 3: What wait what.
Speaker 4: The cool woman and the dorky guy a thing. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's like you use that one asn't you know? Come
Speaker 4: on now?
Speaker 2: Okay, the next one is the woman in charge stereo
Speaker 2: type of the isn't that kind of like from the
Speaker 2: Hallmark movies. I'm just a woman that really is focused
Speaker 2: on my career here in New York that's probably dealing
Speaker 2: with fashion or marketing. And now I've got to go
Speaker 2: to this small town to deal with my dad's old
Speaker 2: tree factory.
Speaker 4: And then the love of my life is going to
Speaker 4: walk in.
Speaker 2: I want to go to a tree factory because they
Speaker 2: just grow. It's a farm, right, Okay, So here he's
Speaker 2: here always like when you're trying to do a we
Speaker 2: got it down, we got it down? Does this count
Speaker 2: for swap swamp? Watch the h we never actually fully
Speaker 2: explain this.
Speaker 1: Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a
Speaker 1: little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Speaker 4: Quoted by Benjamin Franklin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I thought someone else said it as well,
Speaker 2: but a shorter version. Oh that was too worthy for you. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: but no, I'm a huge Franklin fan. I'm just I
Speaker 2: feel like someone else said. Oh, hold on Thomas Jefferson.
Speaker 3: Yes, but he said it more concise, right, No, that's
Speaker 3: not to be liberty.
Speaker 1: They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little
Speaker 1: temporary safety deserve.
Speaker 4: No, that's pretty much the same thing.
Speaker 3: Said it man.
Speaker 4: Oh, Thomas Jefferson said this. Pardon me.
Speaker 1: The people are the only sure reliance for the preservation
Speaker 1: of our liberty.
Speaker 2: No, that's not what I was thinking. Okay, we are
Speaker 2: not getting any closer to it. Okay, all right, there's
Speaker 2: another story for swamp watch.
Speaker 3: This is another. It's almost sad to watch President Biden.
Speaker 2: Now. It's even worse than before because now it feels
Speaker 2: like everybody's treating him like no, no, no, you're the man,
Speaker 2: You're the president. What do you think, Kamala. It's like
Speaker 2: every time you see him. It just seems like he's
Speaker 2: more lame duck than any other lame duck in the
Speaker 2: lame duck pond. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So he he uh delivered a speech about his investing
Speaker 1: in America. He touted his accomplishments as president.
Speaker 4: And then for a full minute. A minute is a
Speaker 4: long time if you're being peppered with questions.
Speaker 3: A minute is a long time for anything. True. I
Speaker 3: always used the baby crying test.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's think of a baby crying as a runner
Speaker 1: a minute. If you keep looking at your watch in
Speaker 1: a minute's time, you look down and you're like, it's
Speaker 1: got to be a minute at least it's fifteen seconds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, running So.
Speaker 4: Literally, for sixty.
Speaker 1: Seconds, reporters could be heard asking about various key issues
Speaker 1: like establishing a ceasefire in the Israel Hamas war free
Speaker 1: IVF treatment. That's something that Donald Trump said that he
Speaker 1: would provide if elected president. They asked him about high
Speaker 1: grocery prices, and he literally sat there and didn't say anything,
Speaker 1: And concluding his remarks, he said, may God protect our troops,
Speaker 1: and then he just sat at the desk smiling awkwardly.
Speaker 3: Right, but they say ignore. I don't know if he's
Speaker 3: ignoring them. I don't know.
Speaker 5: The question is he can hear no if if he's coherent,
Speaker 5: you know, a full minute, and he's grinning, and those
Speaker 5: are all signs.
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen somebody as they slip into dementia.
Speaker 2: It's it's very sad. But one of the things that
Speaker 2: you will note, but they grin a lot more smile
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 3: You're doing right, are you? Okay?
Speaker 2: But that's the that and and that's the look on
Speaker 2: his face that I'm looking at. I mean that kind
Speaker 2: of blank grin. And that's the president of these United States,
Speaker 2: the highest office in the land, and they're asking him
Speaker 2: questions and he's just you know, there's.
Speaker 4: The other side that he could be thinking. The pressure's
Speaker 4: off me. Now you know, all your attentions on kamala anyway, Okay.
Speaker 2: Then you say say, I'm not taking any questions, but
Speaker 2: thank you or whatever. But to sit there and smile
Speaker 2: and wait for somebody to yo.
Speaker 1: Cut well, and his staffers literally ushered him away, yeah,
Speaker 1: saying thank you, press.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he said horn Pop's a bad dude, and
Speaker 2: then they whisked him away. The beginning of swamp watch ah, right,
Speaker 2: it's time for a little uh, parental guidance from.
Speaker 3: Our dangerous When you saw.
Speaker 6: That guidance, there, you know a little bit of parent
Speaker 6: I don't know if I have any business being a guide.
Speaker 6: My job is to keep the bar low. I feel
Speaker 6: that way everybody feels more comfortable with the believe.
Speaker 3: It was Lincoln who said I learned something from everyone
Speaker 3: I meet. It's usually what not to do. Oh interesting, Yeah,
Speaker 3: there you go. Then I'm definitely here to provide that.
Speaker 6: Although I did have a huge parental win where I
Speaker 6: had to, I did a lot of for anybody who
Speaker 6: tuned in. Last week, I talked about my dad passed away,
Speaker 6: and so I was gone while he was. You know,
Speaker 6: we found out he had stage four pancreatic cancer. And
Speaker 6: I was gone from most of the month of August
Speaker 6: helping out with my dad and my mom, and had
Speaker 6: to stick around for about ten days after he passed,
Speaker 6: just to help get affairs in order. And I came
Speaker 6: back home and my son had his sixteenth birthday and
Speaker 6: my wife had her birthday, and so we were like
Speaker 6: all together, and I made a comment with my family
Speaker 6: of four where I said, I've learned that I get
Speaker 6: a little cranky when I can't be around you guys.
Speaker 6: Like when stuff happens where I can't be around my
Speaker 6: wife and kids, I get agitated. And it was the
Speaker 6: most heartwarming thing that both of my sons at the
Speaker 6: same time they went nah, And it was so like
Speaker 6: it was almost kind of frustrated because they're aout teenagers,
Speaker 6: so I get a lot of attitude now, but it
Speaker 6: was also like, so it was a little bit of like, hey,
Speaker 6: you're making fun of me, but also it was heartwarming
Speaker 6: that they understood this aspect of my personality well before
Speaker 6: I had even figured it out. I mean, he's sixteen
Speaker 6: years old, and it had a grasp on this being
Speaker 6: a thing. Like I thought that if they thought I
Speaker 6: was in a bad Buddhist because I was tired of
Speaker 6: stress because of my job, which I've always tried really
Speaker 6: hard not to do that, but sitting on.
Speaker 2: The ca together and it's just their presence. Yes, you
Speaker 2: could be in the garage working on something or whatever,
Speaker 2: but I need to run in joke or poke at them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you say hello, give give the missus a hug. Whatever
Speaker 2: it is, there is something in that. It is the
Speaker 2: energy is palpable when your family's gone.
Speaker 4: That is why justin Worsham, you are our parental source.
Speaker 6: Well, yes, listen, if there's one aspect at least my kids,
Speaker 6: I don't know. That's the other thing is I am.
Speaker 6: I I don't know if I'm being making them, being
Speaker 6: codependent of them. It's like, yeah, we know, we have
Speaker 6: to make time for you, pops, for your own mental health.
Speaker 3: Like but I was starting to get but it does
Speaker 3: make me.
Speaker 6: One of the things that I don't know if you
Speaker 6: guys are cool talking about this first, but one of
Speaker 6: the articles that I found is they talked about humor
Speaker 6: and parenting being like a very valuable tool and being
Speaker 6: a former comedian everybody that I've ever talked to, because
Speaker 6: all of my stand up was about being a husband
Speaker 6: and a.
Speaker 3: Father once a comedian always, I don't know about that.
Speaker 3: It's like marine. Sure. Here's the thing.
Speaker 6: I think part of the reason I was very open
Speaker 6: about to my kids that I wanted to be a
Speaker 6: stand up comic ever since I was in first grade.
Speaker 6: It was my dream and I love the job. But
Speaker 6: I told them, I said, I don't want you to
Speaker 6: ever feel bad about this. Because they asked me why
Speaker 6: I quit, I said, I quit because I didn't like
Speaker 6: being away from you guys and your mom like it.
Speaker 6: Just for me, it was not a lifestyle for me.
Speaker 6: I'm not judging any comic or anybody who travels for
Speaker 6: a living saying they don't love their family.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that I am so.
Speaker 6: Codd bad my family that I can't be away from
Speaker 6: them for extended periods of time. But people had always
Speaker 6: asked me they would, and I think that's part of
Speaker 6: the reason why my kids know that I need to
Speaker 6: be I need to be around for me.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they like it yet.
Speaker 6: Well, you don't find out anything I think about your
Speaker 6: kids until they're in they're like early to mid thirties.
Speaker 6: That's where I feel like you really understand what happened.
Speaker 1: So humor, how so in terms of what you're parenting.
Speaker 1: Obviously not making fun of them.
Speaker 5: No, I do that.
Speaker 3: I do that a lot.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 6: I think it's what I've tried to learn, is that
Speaker 6: for me humor with my kids. What the survey found
Speaker 6: was that kids reacted better when their parents used humor
Speaker 6: as a tool, and they actually extrapolated this and compared
Speaker 6: it to even business relationships too. That when there's humor
Speaker 6: in the workplace, people feel more productive, they feel more comfortable,
Speaker 6: morale is just generally better, and the same thing goes
Speaker 6: for the family.
Speaker 3: Is essentially what the survey found.
Speaker 6: But what I realized is that whenever I got made
Speaker 6: fun of by my wife or my kids, I would
Speaker 6: play the comedic role of like, hey, like pretend to
Speaker 6: be angry about it. And then I started noticing that
Speaker 6: my kids were growing up and they were being very
Speaker 6: They could dish it out, but they can never take it.
Speaker 6: And I started to realize, probably within the last three years,
Speaker 6: to be honest with you, that I'm like, oh, I'm
Speaker 6: not modeling good behavior of having a good sense of
Speaker 6: humor because I don't think they're understanding that I'm totally
Speaker 6: fine being made fun of. And so in the last
Speaker 6: year three years, I've transitioned where anytime they make fun
Speaker 6: of me, I just laugh.
Speaker 3: I laugh at it, and I'm like, that's a good one.
Speaker 6: You got me, And it's lightened up the entire mood
Speaker 6: in my family, Like everything is just so much lighter.
Speaker 6: There's a lot, there's some more, but.
Speaker 3: It's weirdly enough. Yeah, yeah, everybody.
Speaker 6: My younger son was probably the most sensitive, and I
Speaker 6: don't know if it's just a coincidence of age. Like
Speaker 6: middle school so far, as a parent, that's not my
Speaker 6: favorite time period. Middle school so far is the worst.
Speaker 6: I would much rather have a sixteen year old who
Speaker 6: which seems to be the one the time period that
Speaker 6: people most are like, ugh, like, I don't like the
Speaker 6: high school age kids, but so far high school age
Speaker 6: is much better than middle school.
Speaker 3: Really.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's the biggest difference.
Speaker 6: It's the they feel in middle schools when all of
Speaker 6: the puberty starts and I just have sons I and
Speaker 6: I don't know. I've heard that girls they developed through
Speaker 6: it much faster, but they also are like emotional ninjas.
Speaker 6: From what the fathers I've talked to, they you have
Speaker 6: to have a black belt in psychology.
Speaker 4: Not much changes get older.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're always three steps ahead of my cell because
Speaker 6: the chick food.
Speaker 3: When Michelle pointed that out to me, definitely frightened me
Speaker 3: for weeks.
Speaker 6: Yeah, chick fu for anybody who has had heard this,
Speaker 6: but I've only heard it from Michelle Cbe. But she
Speaker 6: told me this a long time ago when we used
Speaker 6: to a podcast together where it's like a woman using
Speaker 6: not necessarily just sexual feminine wiles, but just feminine wiles
Speaker 6: in general to manipulate men. And I don't know why,
Speaker 6: but it just scared me because I'm like, oh, my
Speaker 6: wife wouldn't do that. In my head, I was just
Speaker 6: my wife wouldn't do that. I'm like, well, dummy, you
Speaker 6: wouldn't know it was happening. By the very nature of
Speaker 6: chick fu. You don't know you're being chick food. That
Speaker 6: is the hair that is the hair piece rule. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you'll go there.
Speaker 2: I only see bad hair pieces, I go, of course, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the good ones you can't see. Notice, that's the whole
Speaker 2: point is that, Yeah, if you've got somebody that tried
Speaker 2: that can manipulate you properly, you know, Tim Kelly and
Speaker 2: Tim's Mary Show to Michelle. We had a list of
Speaker 2: four or five of those that were those different names
Speaker 2: for being.
Speaker 3: Manipulated by way. Oh okay, all right.
Speaker 2: There was another version of chick food that I won't say,
Speaker 2: but yeah, but there was. Yeah, there was a bunch
Speaker 2: of them. And one day we were throwing them back
Speaker 2: and forth about how, yeah there's some you know, I
Speaker 2: have a straight shooter for a wife. She she's just
Speaker 2: she'll say it boom and it's out of her mouth
Speaker 2: and in your lap, and you're like, wow, thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah food chick foo, chickfoo. Yeah.
Speaker 6: To go back to answer your question, Marla, that I
Speaker 6: think it's the it's the initial. Like for my boys,
Speaker 6: each had their bit. My older son struggled with his
Speaker 6: physical appearance. He gained weight before like hitting his gross spurt,
Speaker 6: and he felt really bad, and I didn't know how
Speaker 6: to help him. I just kept telling him, this isn't
Speaker 6: a time in your life where should at all be
Speaker 6: worried about this, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
Speaker 6: And he also loved food, and I didn't want to
Speaker 6: take that from him either, but he wasn't even eating unhealthy.
Speaker 3: And then my younger son, he was a.
Speaker 6: Late bloomer for puberty and so he always he still
Speaker 6: has that little boy kind of look, and so his
Speaker 6: friends and other kids at school were constantly making fun
Speaker 6: of him because he was short and he looks like
Speaker 6: a ten year old and that that's just hard because
Speaker 6: maybe what I'm really trying to say is it just
Speaker 6: seems to be I can't help them navigate. But now
Speaker 6: that my older son has kind of grown out of that,
Speaker 6: he still has problems, but we can have a conversation
Speaker 6: about this and it's productive.
Speaker 3: That's key.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're talking that, then there's the barriers are
Speaker 2: down as if it's talk and say hey, you know.
Speaker 3: And that was I was afraid my younger son was
Speaker 3: never going to talk to me. I was. He was
Speaker 3: just always in his room.
Speaker 6: I would try to pull him out with like things
Speaker 6: that he and I could do together, things he loved,
Speaker 6: like I got into basketball because he loves basketball, and
Speaker 6: now I love basketball.
Speaker 3: And I wanted him to be able to teach me
Speaker 3: how to do it.
Speaker 6: And I'm trying to finally say, but now, what I
Speaker 6: found is again through lightning up on my humor, taking
Speaker 6: the joke. And then also I started being open and
Speaker 6: honest with my kids, especially my younger son. Every once
Speaker 6: in a while, he would just randomly give me a hug,
Speaker 6: and so I would make a big because it was
Speaker 6: a big deal. I didn't want to put pressure on him,
Speaker 6: but I said, oh, And then I started if I
Speaker 6: was having a rough day, I go into him and
Speaker 6: I say, hey, can I just have a quick hug,
Speaker 6: like it'll just help me. And it's hard because as
Speaker 6: a dad, I don't want to make them feel like
Speaker 6: they need to take care of me. But I learned
Speaker 6: something through losing my dad about my brother and the
Speaker 6: fight that we've had since then, is that my brother
Speaker 6: really struggles with showing weakness as a man. He feels
Speaker 6: like and if anybody has experienced this with their father,
Speaker 6: my dad did a little bit of it with me,
Speaker 6: is that you feel like if you show any kind
Speaker 6: of weakness that somehow you're in your you're not holding
Speaker 6: your child, especially your son, to their potential, like you're
Speaker 6: giving them an out. And I started to realize through
Speaker 6: this conversation I weirdly enough had with my nephew, my
Speaker 6: brother's kid, that I I don't want to do that,
Speaker 6: And thankfully I kind of stumbled into that. I've always
Speaker 6: been transparent with my kids about my failures because I
Speaker 6: always thought my dad had it all together, he always
Speaker 6: had it all figured out, and then he passed away,
Speaker 6: and then I had to go through his finances and
Speaker 6: I'm like, you had zero business criticizing me about any financial.
Speaker 3: Position I ever made. By the way, Pop's mocking your
Speaker 3: dead father was part of your right what ge his
Speaker 3: ashes back and I'm dumping on it more parente with
Speaker 3: Justine worship them back yeah.
Speaker 2: Laughter is Neil Sedra and Marlote's Fox Eleven's Mark Fox.
Speaker 3: Element love to do that, don't you.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Just it gives ownership and you'll see no one owns me.
Speaker 7: I don't know if I'm okay to laugh at that.
Speaker 7: I had a reaction to laugh and immediately got afraid.
Speaker 7: I was like, well, I laughed in appropriately.
Speaker 4: No, that was not inappropriate. That was supposed to be funny.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 2: I had visions of the movie Elf where you're coming
Speaker 2: on the little fellow gets on the table and starts
Speaker 2: running it.
Speaker 4: You're not the only funny one around here, Warshaw.
Speaker 3: Can I laugh at that?
Speaker 8: To ma?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Can you put that on your website or something as
Speaker 2: a quote from a you know, Fox eleven, Fox eleven,
Speaker 2: justin Worsham is here to talk parenting, which which is
Speaker 2: part you know, fifty percent laughing, fifty percent crying.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's a very isn't it funny?
Speaker 6: That like, especially when they're younger, there's so like the
Speaker 6: moments that make it all worthwhile seem so fleeting, And
Speaker 6: then you get to this, like I was saying, you
Speaker 6: get to this middle school age where it's my experience
Speaker 6: was very challenging, and then you get to this teenage
Speaker 6: age where it's significantly.
Speaker 3: Less frustrating and exhausting.
Speaker 6: But it's just weird to just have people who are
Speaker 6: solely responsible, Like they get everything that they need from you, right,
Speaker 6: they'd get clothing.
Speaker 3: Food, and shelter from you, but they are wildly disrespectful.
Speaker 3: They don't appreciate any of its. Well.
Speaker 1: On on Monday, we were talking about the fact that
Speaker 1: parenting is bad for your health that the Surgeon General
Speaker 1: came out and said that it's a health which I
Speaker 1: don't like.
Speaker 3: Again, I think this is a bureaconor like he's it's.
Speaker 6: I'm sure there's data to support it, but I think
Speaker 6: I think really what he's trying to do is hold
Speaker 6: up a mirror to society and say, hey, guys, as adults,
Speaker 6: we're experiencing significant levels of stress when parenting, Like maybe
Speaker 6: we want to This is my take on that, maybe
Speaker 6: we want to reevaluate that maybe we should not be
Speaker 6: so sensitive to trying to be I think it has to.
Speaker 8: Come Yes, the perfect parent, that's what it has to
Speaker 8: come from. Like it's you're not going to be give
Speaker 8: that dream up we're going to mess them up that
Speaker 8: you do. At best, they are This is something I
Speaker 8: learned immediately. Holy crud. He's his own person. With my son,
Speaker 8: he's his own person the minute he popped out. Yeah,
Speaker 8: and and I don't know if this is because we're
Speaker 8: an adoptive family and you don't put so much on
Speaker 8: Oh they look like you, they look like me, they
Speaker 8: look like you know, like they're automatically part of you,
Speaker 8: and ownership is there. It's like, Okay, how are we
Speaker 8: going to raise this human that at best you're a
Speaker 8: rudder to their engine. At best you help kind of
Speaker 8: move them. But they are their own motor and they're
Speaker 8: going where they're going. And you're saying, you know you.
Speaker 2: I've told my son many times when he was really
Speaker 2: small and he wanted to jump from something. I said,
Speaker 2: I want you to want to jump from there, but
Speaker 2: I can't let you. Yeah, I want you to be curious,
Speaker 2: I want you to climb. I want you to do
Speaker 2: those things. But I know the math of that jump
Speaker 2: and it's going to end poorly. So I have to
Speaker 2: say no. But there will be a day where I
Speaker 2: will say yes. So let's keep let's go find something
Speaker 2: you can jump.
Speaker 3: From right now the room.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this new psychology and is looking at the well
Speaker 2: being that your well being is really about feeling valued.
Speaker 2: And how is that different from being a human work
Speaker 2: in a relationship of any kind. Don't you just want
Speaker 2: to be valued?
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're saying that parents, that just as we talk
Speaker 6: a lot about gratitude between right, but what we don't
Speaker 6: really talk a lot is about gratitude from child to parent.
Speaker 6: And what they've found in this recent survey, but they
Speaker 6: the one thing that they pointed out that they want
Speaker 6: to do future research into is that this is only
Speaker 6: about the perception about of gratitude, not how gratitude is given.
Speaker 6: So it's really if I, as a father, do I
Speaker 6: feel gratitude from my kid, and then how does that
Speaker 6: correlate to my happiness in general?
Speaker 3: So if your kids show you appreciation.
Speaker 4: And gratitude, like the random hug that you would say, the.
Speaker 6: Random hugs that I get from my dad, what are
Speaker 6: for my son? But what I also what made me
Speaker 6: think of is that was it until I hit my
Speaker 6: mid twenties that I started realizing all of the things
Speaker 6: that I thought my dad was being an apple about
Speaker 6: when I was younger, was actually for my own good.
Speaker 6: And I just started sending both my parents like random
Speaker 6: text messages or I would call them and say, I
Speaker 6: just want to thank you because now I get it,
Speaker 6: like now I understand it.
Speaker 3: And they're in this.
Speaker 6: Article they talked about there's adult children when you get
Speaker 6: those messages. So if you appreciate your parents and you
Speaker 6: listening to this, please go like send them thank yous.
Speaker 6: It means the world to them. And then and you
Speaker 6: can ask for your kids. That's what I'm trying to do.
Speaker 6: That's why I tell my kid like I could use
Speaker 6: a hug. And what I've noticed is my teenager who's thirteen,
Speaker 6: who was very aloof now constantly hanging on me what's
Speaker 6: to come and hug me. And I appreciate it, like
Speaker 6: I enjoy it all the time. So I just had
Speaker 6: to make a conscious effort to validate that. And it
Speaker 6: seems like he also enjoys it. He likes the idea
Speaker 6: that he's always since he was a little kid. He
Speaker 6: loves to help people, right, that's a thing that so
Speaker 6: if he thinks that he's helping me by giving me
Speaker 6: a hug or talking to me about stuff, then everybody
Speaker 6: wins to go back to your point about you just
Speaker 6: have to like, there's a great speech. I'm blanking on
Speaker 6: the guy's name, but if you just google Shepherd, not
Speaker 6: an engineer. It's an article a speech I found when
Speaker 6: I was doing a segment for this show, and it
Speaker 6: blew my mind as a parent, But because it talks
Speaker 6: about how there's like four hundred psychological traits your kids
Speaker 6: are born with that you can't change. And I'm wondering
Speaker 6: as an adopted parent, and that's just the first personnel.
Speaker 4: Doctor Russell Barkley.
Speaker 3: Look at that. I love it, Go Go Go.
Speaker 6: So anyway is I wonder if just inherently without you
Speaker 6: even thinking about it, right, like you're just more accepting
Speaker 6: of who this kid is. Because sometimes I look at
Speaker 6: my kid's traits and I if I look at it
Speaker 6: and I worry about it for them, Like my older
Speaker 6: son has always had this concern about being perfect, and
Speaker 6: I feel like I gave that to him and so
Speaker 6: putting that barrier of like now I feel ashamed of
Speaker 6: it because it's a behavior I have, and I feel
Speaker 6: guilt because I've given it to him through no choosing
Speaker 6: of his own. There's nothing he can do about that.
Speaker 6: I wonder if if he was my adopted son, if
Speaker 6: it would make me more open minded, Like I could
Speaker 6: get rid of that guilt and shame and I could
Speaker 6: just accept him as a person and treat him that way.
Speaker 3: You know, that's part of the freedom.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about it, Like you see them as an
Speaker 2: individual and not your byproduct, right, And so it's different.
Speaker 2: You really are going, hey, we're all partnership here. But
Speaker 2: you you know, and I explain to people often every
Speaker 2: single relationship, every family starts with adoption because unless you're
Speaker 2: in Alabama and you're marrying your sister, but every marriage
Speaker 2: is two people adopting, the judge coming into it and
Speaker 2: saying we're gonna blend and we're gonna find a way
Speaker 2: to do this. So when you start learning those things,
Speaker 2: it's a powerful teaching tool. And also, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: an older parent, so I'm not I'm not in my
Speaker 2: twenties battling with my own garbage and my own selfishness
Speaker 2: and wants and desires against a child. You're gonna get different,
Speaker 2: You're gonna get different flavors. All have good ones and
Speaker 2: bad ones. But I would have had good ones and
Speaker 2: bad ones that were different when I was younger, and
Speaker 2: it's a fascinating trip. And part of me is part
Speaker 2: scientists and the other part is punt. You know, crash
Speaker 2: test number.
Speaker 3: Puts you back, also works. I was like, you see,
Speaker 3: like part of me is the guy in the lab.
Speaker 2: That part of me is the guy in the lab
Speaker 2: putting the crash tap test dummy.
Speaker 6: That is also you're building the car and then you're
Speaker 6: climbing in at yourself. O K, where's the cog freak pillars.
Speaker 6: Let's drive this thing into it. So the point is
Speaker 6: laugh with your kids and tell everybody thank you. That's
Speaker 6: the big takeaway.
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