Speaker 1: Hello, friends, and welcome back to the rabbit Hole. I'm
your host, Danny, and today we have the pleasure of
having Tim Thomas on the podcast. He is a former
Australian Special Forces operator who has turned his passion for
helping veterans into something tangible in the form of sleep.
He has seen firsthand the importance of improving the quality
of sleep, especially for veterans with PTSD, so he founded
breath Work in Bed. This is so powerful because it's
literally helping people heal their bodies. Sleep is a vital
function of the body that allows the body and brain
to repair, restore, and re energize. It directly affects physical health,
emotional wellbeing, and cognitive performance. Getting good night's sleep is
literally the first step to improving health all the way around,
not just for veterans, but for everybody. And anytime you
listen to anybody talk about health, exercise, being smarter, all
these things, it starts with a good night's sleep. Hi Tim,
thank you, Welcome to the rabbit Hole. I'm really excited
to have you.
Speaker 2: Danny, great to be here.
Speaker 1: I am really excited to talk to you because it's
not often that I get to talk to other veterans.
But you lived in a different world than I did
because American special Forces, not that I have special Forces
playningy means, but like Australia, like it's different, but it's
the same. Can you go into that a little bit.
Speaker 3: So Australian special Forces are in two different categories. We
have the Commandos, which is highly skilled infantry that can
cross amphibious terrain, insert via you know, various different means
and land sea, and then you've got the SAS and
we do that on scale. Commandos do that on and
then we've.
Speaker 2: Got the SAS Special Air.
Speaker 3: Service and they're like small teams go in kill capture
type missions and we were I was in two thousand
and four to twenty ten, had my deployments to Afghanistan
in that time, and I would people ask, what's the
difference between you know, regular units and special forces?
Speaker 2: And I say it like this.
Speaker 3: In a regular unit, there are people that are just
as fit, that can shoot just as well and had
you know, all the mental acumen. But in the special
forces unit, their lowest common denominator is a lot higher
than the lowest common denominator in a regular unit. So
there's a lot of screenings to get to sort of
raise up the minimum standard. So and that becomes apparent,
you know, when you're on deployment, when you're doing things
and you know you're as fast as the slowest player,
if you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so then okay, so you do your service and
then you get out what leads you to breathwork and sleep.
Speaker 3: It's ironic you should say that because in Afghanistan, the
part of the operational intent was to off center the enemy,
and a big part of that was off centering meeting.
You attack something that's that's part of their center of power,
and if you can off center it, then they no
longer function. And sleep was one of those things. So
so we would run operations during the nighttime, you know,
to deliberately attack their sleep. Because we didn't anything about
the science of sleep. We just knew, Danny that if
we could take it out for three nights, it would
it would mess them up better than a bullet, right,
and and and and who do you want to be
fighting a well rested enemy or someone who's you know,
not functioning, you know, half delirious and.
Speaker 2: More worried about what you're doing.
Speaker 3: So and ironically, again we weren't sleeping very much when
we're on deployment.
Speaker 2: And this is beyond not sleeping.
Speaker 3: Your whole body hurts from carrying heavy stuff, and things
happen that attack your system too, like you lose your mates,
you have limbs blown off others. And I remember being
in this really low state, Danny, that I thought, there's
no point I'm going to die out here. Why even try?
It's like I've only got two cents worth of energy.
And it's funny what happens when you're an absolute low.
It's almost like our ancestral knowledge kind of comes in,
because I do believe we've all got this ancestral knowledge,
but we just lacked the environment for it to pop out,
because it only comes out when it's needed. And when
I was at that absolute low point, it was like
this voice came through to me saying, Tim, if you've
only got two cents worth of energy, you better invest
that two cents wisely. And I couldn't work any harder.
But every now and then we can get horizontal in
the dirt and get your head down for an hour
maybe or two. And I thought, well, instead of just
crashing into the dirt, I'll take that two cents that
I have, and I'll do some deep breathing because in
the army they get you to take a site picture.
To take a picture down your rifle, you take a
deep breath in, let it out slowly, and then you
take up the first trigger pressure. So instead of trying
to sleep, I focused on my left thumb, my non
dominant hand, and I pictured a little pin hole in
the top of it, and I breathed deeply, like sucked
air down my thumb, and eventually that thumb didn't just relax,
it started glowing white.
Speaker 2: You know in my mind's eye. Yeah, And I pulled
it through my thumb to my pointer finger. And then
I went to sleep.
Speaker 3: And I noticed that when I did that, I'd wake
up with instead of two cents, twenty cents.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, that's interesting.
Speaker 3: And the next time I got horizontal, I invested the
twenty cents, you know, my thumb and threw my fingers
through my hand. Woke up and I had two dollars
worth of energy. And I discovered, Danny, that energy is
like money. How you invest, it's how you get it back.
And I couldn't work any harder, but I could improve
the quality of my sleep, and I noticed that improving
the quality of my rest. I just everything started getting better.
And there came a point where, you know, I was
investing two dollars getting twenty dollars back, and I had
extra energy so I could wake up and I could
do a few push ups, lift a few ammotins, and
that was good for me. But then I realized, hey,
I'm in a team, and if they're having a bad day,
I'm having.
Speaker 2: A bad day.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: And it's funny how as your energy rises, your awareness expands.
And when I was fatigued, my awareness was like a
pinprick and it was all about me.
Speaker 2: So I noticed that.
Speaker 3: Sleep was the bridge between me being rather selfish and
wrapped up in and justifiably, you know, I was in
a world it hurt, but being externally focused investing on
this so I could then be aware of others and
do what I could. And I realized, look, even if
I'm being selfish, it makes a lot of sense to
build others up around you. Because I had to go
to Afghanistan to realize when the person next to me
is stronger, I'm stronger. You know, who did I want
around me when good times turn bad? I want fatigue
disconnected people, you know, or did I want rested and
connected people? Makes a lot of sense, man, And so
so now that's kind of in my DNA Danny. The
difference and I'm a human, right, the difference between me
being selfish and generous is how well I can rest,
rejuvenate and recover. And it's such a switch. But it's
almost like the culture we live in has an acceptance
of poor quality sleep. They just think it's normal. You know,
I've had a two hours sleep last night, had a coffee.
Speaker 2: What's your problem?
Speaker 1: You know you can sleep when you're dead.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We give badges to people that you know, can work
incredibly long hours. Cash in there tomorrow is to live
today and nobody's It wasn't until I was at sort
of rock bottom that actually started seeing not just the benefit.
Speaker 2: Of sleep, but how to do it naturally.
Speaker 1: But it like that because like, isn't sleep inherently natural?
Like you know how to just sleep, yes.
Speaker 3: But unfortunately, when if you've had chronically elevated cortisol levels
for periods of time, we often think that when we're
doing when we're being still and resting, there's always something
else to do, Like it's not a case of just
turning the light off at the end of the day
and then because your your brain's still kicking over.
Speaker 2: So it it's.
Speaker 3: Not Some people don't need to be told to work harder.
They have to be shown how to how to sleep.
And so so my thing is, think of your performance
all the things that you want to achieve in this
world like a pyramid. Top of the pyramid, you're achieving
what you want, you know, whether it's you know, making dollars,
creating a fantastic relationship, performing in a physical sport. That's
the top of the pyramid. Everyone sees that. But the
bottom of the pyramid is your rest, recovery and healing
art forms. And no one you know, sees that. No
one praises you up for that. There's no public you know, going, hey,
this person got a good night sleep.
Speaker 2: Whooh, you know.
Speaker 3: But it's it's probably two thirds of the pyramid. And
that's why in war, if you want to destroy your enemy,
to take out the bottom of their pyramid.
Speaker 2: Take out their sleep.
Speaker 3: And if people really understand, like corporates kind of get
this because the data is in like sleep, poor employees
take twice almost twice as many sick days, they're thirty
forty percent less productive and the workplace health and safety
goes up. I think they worked out it was like
between fifteen hundred and three thousand dollars per annam per
employee per sleep poor employee in loss of productivity, loss.
Speaker 2: Of you know, sick days and all that sort of stuff.
So the data is in.
Speaker 3: But what happens was what happened to me when I
told a doctor that hey, I couldn't sleep, they just
threw a pharmacy at me. Yep, And I lost six
years of my life to pills. I didn't know there
was a natural alternative. And you know, I can't get
that time back, Danny. But you know, as God is
my witness, I made a promise not to let anyone
else go to that rabbit hole without some some you know,
natural options.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: So what led you to finally like leave the pills
behind and like just dedicate your your sleep to like
a more natural way. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: Yeah? No?
Speaker 3: No, good, good, good call, because people dance in this
space without and thinking it's normal, and you know, waking
up at two am getting out of better you know, struggling,
hating life and you know, I'm a guy with a
lot of chronic injuries. If I'm not, you know, living
a healthy lifestyle, they kicked my as straight away. So
the question is how it actually came together. I knew
about breath work, but it wasn't until my divorce that
I started understanding what was stopping people breathing properly, as
well as that breath has a certain medicinal level. Okay,
we're all breathing, but there's a certain way to make
it medicinal. And even if you take a deep breath,
understanding that it's not so much a set of lungs
we all own, it's a medicine cabinet with a lot
of different shelves, and if you breathe a certain way,
you can elicit.
Speaker 2: A certain medicine. Uh So I think it was.
Speaker 3: I had a COVID divorce, and you know, classic example
of lost househome, money, regular access to kids. I was
sleeping on the couch in my parents' place, and you
can bet I wasn't sleeping very well.
Speaker 2: And this was the irony.
Speaker 3: Though I knew about breath work, I knew in my
mind that breath work would bring.
Speaker 2: Me peace, But.
Speaker 3: It was like all that crap in my system had
me locked into this state that I couldn't escape. I
knew what the right thing was, but I couldn't do it.
And I then started. I had an understanding that your
mind's like a garden. Whatever your water grows, and I
was watering the weeds of stress, and the weeds of stress.
I don't just take over the garden. It's like eyeballs
pop out of them. They become sentient, and they become
aware of the things that you do that feed them,
and they become hyper aware of the things that you
do that starve them. Like a small example of this is,
you know, before you go and do some exercise, there's
a part of you going on, let's not do this now,
Let's do it later.
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe I'll just look at my phone
for a bit. You know.
Speaker 3: That's the disempowered parts of you, knowing that if you
exercise and you empower your physical body, they're kicked out.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: So all the negative parts of me were screaming the
loudest before they got kicked out, right.
Speaker 2: And at two am, when.
Speaker 3: I had all this stress and it felt worse than
the war zone in Afghanistan, to be honest, and.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was about to do alcohol pill self harm, and
I just looked at my left thumb and I said, Tim,
you can take one breath.
Speaker 2: Take one fucking breath, and I drove it into my
chest went, oh my gosh, this works. It felt like
I was coming up from the bottom of the ocean, Danny.
And then I got a second.
Speaker 3: Figure, take a second breath, drove two fingers in, Okay,
this is working. Take three, Get to five, breath after breath,
finger after finger, and then somewhere between breath fifteen and twenty,
those stress weeds got kicked out. The chemical override happened,
and the rest of my brain was like, thank goodness,
you kick those freaking stress weeds out.
Speaker 2: Keep doing this. This is working, right, because.
Speaker 1: Stress can kill you. Like stress is so bad for you.
It's amazing what breath can do too. Like I've been
trying to teach my son, he's four, and I'm like,
you know what, buddy, I get, you're like super overwhelmed
about like the world. But like when he gets really
worked up, I'm like, just take one deep breath and
then we let's talk about it. Like, and I don't
know why I do that. But I'm like, let's take
a deep breath and then we'll like figure out what
it is that's causing you now this temper tantrum or whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, breath is your way back to sovereignty. And
to me, mental health isn't so much a mental problem.
It's a physical disconnect. So when I'm so focused out there,
I've disconnected from my own body, and I can have
all sorts of crazy cortisol and hype and shallow breathing,
you know, without even night because I'm so focused out there.
Speaker 2: So when you breathe and come back to your body,
this is your charge point.
Speaker 3: So when I'm working with high school students downy, I'll say,
you know what would happen if you never charge your phone?
Of course it would go flat, But before it goes flat,
it goes onto this power saverer mode, okay, where you
can barely see the screen. You don't have access to
all the functions. And that's what I've often seen humans
as a collective functioning in because they've they're they're focused
outside of them. They're not connected to this that they're
not connecting back into their charge point. And you know,
if you want to create a conspiracy theory here. I
I believe that currently we're an economy of dysfunction.
Speaker 2: Okay, So.
Speaker 3: There's things that we can do for ourselves that the
economy says, Hey, no, just pay money.
Speaker 2: I'll do it for you. You know, So.
Speaker 3: Creating your own energetic state, no no, we'll sell your coffee.
We'll sell you an energy drink. Creating your own you know,
state of relaxation. No no, no, I'll sell you a pill.
I'll give you alcohol to change at a state.
Speaker 2: Okay. And I personally believe we are made to be
in altered states.
Speaker 3: But I'm dyslexic. I see things in patterns. There's seven
billion people on the planet. There's a five hundred and
forty billion dollar illegal drug spend. We like being in
altered states, but we don't know how to do it
for ourselves. And that's getting that economy of dysfunction is
capitalizing on that. So when with your breath we can
alter our states, you know, whether it's studying, sleeping, working
out in the gym, creating, getting high in your own supply,
this is what the magic of breath is. And once
we actually can do it for ourselves, all that economy
of dysfunction becomes redundant really quickly. So my goal for
all the people I interact with is for them to
be energetic millionaires. Okay, considering energies like money, how you
get it, how you invest its, how you get it back.
And Danny, you've got a unique energy investment portfolio in
side of you. Things that you do that give you
a lot of energy. You know, things that your kids
do that that give them energy, Things that we do
that take energy, people that we hang out that take energy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so it's even you can't even think
like that if you're stuck in this dysfunctional economy that
tells us no, no, you pay money for us to
do things for you that you could otherwise do for yourself.
Speaker 3: You know, imagine, imagine leaving the house going, you know
what I've given myself, the peace, power, connection, joy that
I'm looking for, That that the money that I'm earning. Yeah,
I'm going to get that car and I'm going to
enjoy that car. I'm going to get that house. I'm
going to enjoy that house. But that's not going to
do for me what I haven't already done for myself.
You know, imagine leaving your house going yeah.
Speaker 2: I've got this. Today is just a victory. Life.
Speaker 3: Today is just me going, you know what, it feels
good to do this. And it's one thing to blah
blah blah and say that, but it's another thing to
actually go.
Speaker 2: Whoa, this is this is the real deal. Yeah, And
this is why I found that. You know, breath gives
you back your own sovereignty of self, your ability to feed, nourish, heal,
you know, be generous to others.
Speaker 1: So you mention that you're like really passionate about helping
PTSD or like veterans with PTSD. So like when I
was in the throes of my PTSD and like I
was having nightmares all the time, like I didn't want
to sleep, Like you couldn't pay me enough to want
to go to sleep because I'm having those dreams that
I don't want to have. Yeah, so how does this help?
Does it change things? Like how do you like convince
veterans who are having nightmares that like, hey, it's really
good for you to sleep.
Speaker 3: Well, you're touching on something that's rather massive, and we
actually cracked the code in this space and I'll share
it with you and your listeners. It was two things
that aren't on any spreadsheets, and these two things enabled
me to achieve a personal goal of saving forty veteran lives.
It was my lifetime goal. I didn't care if I
if I achieve that, I'd die happy. It was achieved
within twelve months understanding these two concepts, which I'll share
with you now. Firstly, it doesn't matter if your pain
or discomfort is physical or mental. It gets to a
certain duration or intensity that it transforms from just pain
to loneliness isolation. I'm the only one going through this
because in that state of isolation, no one's got your back.
I can't drop my guard for a second because if
I drop my guard, if I rest, something bad's.
Speaker 2: Going to happen, and it's going to be my fault. Okay.
Speaker 3: And so I put it to you those dreams were
you saying, ah ah, you can't drop your guard. You're
unsafe if you drop your guard. You need to be
in this elevated state. And so the first thing that
we that we found that worked is we had to
break the person's isolation. And it could be something as
simple as someone sharing hate. I used to have these
terrible dreams I used to hate sleeping, but then you know,
I really understand what you're going through. And then what
usually happens is people's jewel And I see this. When
I was running these groups, the guys, the jaw would
drop open and I'd say words like fuck.
Speaker 2: I thought I was the.
Speaker 3: Only one, you know, but you can't leave it there.
Veterans are really good at creating his anti social social groups.
I can only be myself around other veterans, right, And
they're not the only ones. I'm sure there's other you know,
people with certain illnesses that just get together each week
and it's powerful breaking isolation.
Speaker 2: But they leave it there.
Speaker 3: So the thing that needs to happen next is because
people are in that loan, in that feeling all alone.
I'm the only one who's got my back. It's very
fatiguing to be like that. And when I was in
that loop, that's what I told the doctor, Hey, I
can't sleep. I lost many years to pills. But what
you need to understand about breath work is that it's
not meditation. It's not thoughts controlling thoughts. This is a
chemical override. This isn't that you alcoholize your neural pathways.
It's like going to the side of the house and
pulling out the fuse box, you know, the light. The
lights go out, and you think it's impossible until it
actually happens. Just like me when I was in that
you know, war zone inside my head. Somewhere between breath
fifteen and twenty, the alcalization happened and the empowered parts
of my mind start taking over. I think you technically,
you're switching from the amigdalert to the prefrontal cortex.
Speaker 2: Your fight or flight. It's fast, but it's.
Speaker 3: Kind of stupid. It sees everything as a threat. Right,
But then the prefrontal cortex, you know what all is well,
I am okay in this moment, and breath work guided
and this is what I found. As much as I
knew it was good, it had to be guided. So
I started making these stupid ass recordings of my own.
Speaker 2: Voice going ho turn broth Oh.
Speaker 3: But you know ancient army saying if it's stupid and
it works, it's not stupid, right. So I started making
these recordings, and you know, I gave them to a
few friends and they're like, Tim, this is working, this
is great.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 3: Dialing back to your question, how do you break the
cycle and get back into it? Breaking isolation is the
first step knowing you're not the only person going through it,
and within that asking the golden question, and this is
a game changer. How many other people are in my
situation right now? If I was to give it a number? Okay, So, Danny,
if I was to ask you, how many other in
your case veterans were having trouble sleeping because of nightmares?
Speaker 1: Oh, a lot of them.
Speaker 2: Let's give it a tangible number, ten, twenty thousand.
Speaker 1: Oh, I would say, I guess I don't know how
many veterans there are in the world, like one hundred thousand,
because I bet like I was across the world.
Speaker 2: Right well, I would say, problem with that. That's a
very very generous that's very low, low figure. But let's
call it one hundred thousand, right, okay.
Speaker 3: So right now, when you're and this is part of
breaking the isolation, going oh okay, if there's other people
in this right now, and I encourage people to picture
those one hundred thousand people. There's fifty thousand on your left, Anny,
fifty thousand on you're right, and they're saying, hey, Danny,
if you can find a way forward for you, you can
find a way forward for us, and a lot of
them you probably haven't even met yet that when you
do meet them, they'll say words to the effect of,
you know what, I'm so glad you chose back in
twenty twenty six to move forward because the thing that
helped you move forward, you're helping me move forward, and
you're helping me in far less time. Yeah, and so
consider that you're not just making and when you're hurting.
It's really hard, because Jesus to make progress. I've only
made an inch of progress the last month, right, But
if you've got one hundred thousand people around you, that's
one hundred thousand inches. Yeah, that's a light So let's
multiply out and see the self benefit. Even if it's
an inch of progress, that's one hundred thousand. And So
making decisions based on the fact that you've got all
these people willing you want and you make a way
forward for you, you make a way forward for them.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: And if all it is is listen to some soundtrack
tell me to breathe it out, I can do that,
you know I can do that.
Speaker 2: That's a win.
Speaker 3: And so what we found was once we you know,
asked that golden question of people, how many other people
do you think are in that situation? And then started
doing things to get them out.
Speaker 2: Of fatigue, It's like all the.
Speaker 3: Crap fell off their inner compass. They're in a knowing
and they knew what they were supposed to do next.
And this is where you know, there's millions of dollars
spent on mental health and it seems I mean, if
you're going to go conspiracies, you know, the all the
crap they pour in misses the mark. If you're not
addressing the isolation someone's feeling. If they could have the
best psychologists in front of them, but if they don't,
they couldn't trust them, and they're too fatigued to take
on that, it's pointless, right. So, if you don't address
the loneliness and isolation people feel, if you don't address
the resultant fatigue, it is really hard for anything to
get in that. Conversely, when you address those two points,
people sort of click into what they know what they're
supposed to do next. And this is what we found
time and time again. People essentially knew what to do,
but they it was hard to know what to do,
and you didn't know who to trust. You felt like
you're the only one going through it, and you are
incredibly fatigued.
Speaker 1: I am a bigger Like the bigger conspiracy here is
that they want us to be fatigued like they want
us to be because, like we talked about at the beginning,
like they want us to not sleep. In there, we
almost like praise people like, oh you you got two
hours of sleep last night and you're like running It's fine, Like, oh,
sleep when you're dead, all these things, but like they
want us to be tired, They want us to not
function because then they can control us better. I mean
you talked about it with the military. The very first
thing they do when you get to boot camp is
like they kept us up for seventy two hours because
then they can like break us down easier. Right, Like
the same thing when I went to see your school,
like they're going they made us tired for an entire
week before they're like, Okay, now we're gonna terrogate you
and see what you're gonna give us. Like we hadn't
slept in five days, Like yeah, I'm gonna try to
give you whatever. I can sleep a little bit so yeah,
I think they like to have us in this state
of dysfunction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dysfunction off scentedness. And just picture this. You've got
two groups of.
Speaker 3: People, right, and consider that we are in a consumer
society and everyone knows that, right, But what's the goal
of a consumers society?
Speaker 2: It's to consume, right, So, and people go, okay, but
they don't actually see the gravity of this. Okay.
Speaker 3: So if you had two groups of people, and let's
say one group of people, they weren't sleeping. They were
told that whatever they had was never enough, that all
the solutions were outside of them, and you've got to
look after you. Don't look after anyone else. It's all
about you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then you had another group of people. Their sleep
was restorative and they woke up feeling good. They knew
their value and they could improve it. They knew that
improving others improved them, and they could. They also knew
and saw and valued the value that was inside of
them and could increase it. Now, which group of people
would buy more shit they didn't need.
Speaker 1: The dysfunctional group. The group does not sleep, They need
more things from the outside world.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Someone once asked me in the last week. You know, Tim,
how would you what how would you create world peace?
And I said I would start one good night's sleep
at a time, and they kind of looked at me
like I was, I'm like, think about it. When someone's
not sleeping, they're not thinking their body is under functioning,
they're looking for solutions.
Speaker 2: Outside of them.
Speaker 3: They're they're they're often I know, I'm cranky at other people,
you know, and I'm I'm and I'm sort of blaming
others stuck in my own world. Conversely, when I'm when
I'm well rested, connected to self, got a lot of energy,
I got a lot of options more than just that
guy's an ahole. I'm going to be an ahole back
to him, you know, and all these things, all these
abilities that we have start coming online. But if if
we're in power mode, like a phone on power saver mode,
we don't know, we don't have access to all the
functions that we have, all this higher functioning stuff, and
we just think it's normal to be in power save
and mode, and we build worlds around the fact that
we don't have access to all this awesome stuff that's
inside of it. So the biggest joy that I have
dan isn't so much, you know, improving sleep, it's seeing
people flourish in ways they never thought possible. You know,
the saying I have about sleep, A sleep is the
soil from which everything grows. And the world we live
in is very visual. You know, if someone doesn't have
a trunk in the shape that they want, there's plenty
of things you can buy to help your trunk. If
you don't have the fruit and the life that you want,
there's plenty of things that you could buy to help
with that fruit. But someone who really understands how that
tree works, they won't just look at what is seen.
They'll look at the unseen, the soil from which it grows.
And if you improve the quality of that or guess what,
you get the trunk, you get the fruit. And I
see this time and time again. It brings me so
much joy that inside of everybody are these seeds of uniqueness,
seeds of greatness, and they're just lying dormant, waiting for
the soil quality to lift and then.
Speaker 2: It naturally flourishes.
Speaker 3: You cannot stop a seed from flourishing with the you know,
really enriched soil.
Speaker 2: And this is.
Speaker 3: How this unseen part you know someone on sleep quality,
you know, impacts absolutely everything.
Speaker 1: So right before we started recording, you said that you
would like just come from doing breath work because you're
on the other side of the world, so like our
time zones are drastically different. So you're like, yeah, I
just finished my breath work and like for the day,
like you were getting up and doing your breath work.
So you do it multiple time, not just at bedtime.
You're doing it all the time.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. Having a lot of chronic injuries.
Speaker 3: Even though I noticed I've gotten a breath work because
I noticed my pain scales were dropping. Remember I said
about medicine and a big part of my pharmaceutical regime
was around pain. But I just noticed the more breath
work I did, the more my pain scales dropped. And
as much as going to sleep with breath, I'd wake
up feeling better. I was like, you know what, I
think I could improve this. So getting out of breath
and this was the game changing because I just woke up.
My whole life was waking up. You just feel like
shit for the first ninety minutes, like death warmed up.
That was that was me, you know, shut up until
I've had a coffee and I thought, well, instead of
just forcing this, how about taking five minutes, just five
minutes before my feet flling over the side, and do
breath work getting.
Speaker 2: Out of bed, And holy crap, it worked.
Speaker 3: So I have a specific breath work that turns my
bed into a cloud. Yeah, I have a specific breath
breath work that turns my bed into a trampoline. And
life occurs very differently if the first five minutes of
the day, you're connecting to your own power, your own peace.
Because I noticed if I woke up and I didn't
have something there to prompt me into my a positive, empowered,
oxygenated mindset, It's like I had all these negative thoughts
ready to jump in. I've heard people call it the
vultures on the BedHead, you know, the negative thoughts that
are waiting to dive into your head.
Speaker 2: And I noticed how quickly I would absorb the negative
stuff if I didn't have a structure in place, you know,
a simple button depressed to say breathe, massage certain points,
and and to.
Speaker 3: Understand that if you can, if you can just win
the first five minutes of the day, you've won the day.
Speaker 1: And it's so powerful, Like I want to stop you
there for a second, because so many people roll over.
They grab their phones, and the first thing they do
is jump on social media, where they then get like
just over, like just overwhelmed with like negative like the
world's burning this that the other. Like I had to
tell my husband, like you have to stop telling me
about all the AI taking over the world first thing
in the morning, because I just can't handle it, Like
I just can't do that. And so like like just
training your brain or like changing your mindset like that
little bit, but like it doesn't take long. Five minutes
is not that long. We're all laying in bed for
five minutes before we get up anyway, Well that's not true.
My husband does not do that. He gets right out,
but I'm laying in bed for five minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well consider that, you know, doing a bit of
breath working bed. Mike's Mike's all the difference. And I
saw that energy is either spiraling up or spiraling down.
You're not you're not holding ground. When I had negative
thoughts in my head, I noticed my whole body would
change and it would life would occur very differently, and
I'd think about more negative stuff, and you're speaking to
your point on you know, looking at your phone too
long in the mornings. That's an automatic disconnect from your body.
That's setting your day up for your focus out there.
You've you've already pulled yourself out of your.
Speaker 2: Charge point. So breath movement is awesome for your body.
But I found.
Speaker 3: Again this falls into the category of if it's stupid
and it works, it's not stupid. I found it super
powerful even though I was resistant to it. Positive affirmations
in the mirror, you know, saying three times, all things.
Speaker 2: Are working out for my benefit. All things are working
out for my benefit.
Speaker 3: Everything in your life, tim is working out for your benefit.
And again that is that is not an easy thing
to do first thing in the morning, when you're waking up.
But if I've got like a recording there to guide
me to that, well, I'll just go and do it.
Speaker 2: And it's easy to do it.
Speaker 3: And if I you know, I'm not lazy, but if
there's an easy way to do it, I'll do it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: So to have these have these silly little recordings going
do this, do this, do that. Before you know it,
you're like connected to your body, connected to your mind,
and then you're ready to you know, connect to the
outside world and without you know, I have to say
it's quite obvious, but the more powerful we are connected
inside ourselves, the more powerfully we can be connected outside
of ourselves. And so I always ask, you know, at
the end of a morning routine, where you've connected to
your body, connected to your mind, would you like to
double the energy and connection you're feeling right now? And
if the answer is yes, consider that being connected to
yourself is only half the connection. You've got to connect
outside of yourself. So consider the possibility that doing an
act of generosity to somebody else is you making a
full circle connection to somebody you know. So I believe
that generosity is a natural progression when you're spiraling your
energy upwards.
Speaker 1: Wow, I guess I never talked about it like that, huh.
Speaker 3: If you want to buy it, if you want to
buy a hack your own health, do active generosity from
that position of strength, you know, from from servant hood,
not servit chewed, because then that creates so much powerful
chemicals in you, and it doesn't have to cost you anything.
Speaker 2: Like I literally just you know, you know, the voicemail
button on on on a message your service.
Speaker 3: I go, you know, ah, you know hay Grant, just
saying good ay mate and letting you know that you're
bloody awesome.
Speaker 2: I love you.
Speaker 3: And in my my world, you know what, my world's
better because you're in it. You have a fucking good day,
you know. And then that's it, Like what twenty seconds.
Speaker 1: Right and it didn't do anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, felt good to me. And when when you know
old mate gets it, he's like damn. And then then
often you get that message back I don't. I do
it without expectation. That's the thing you got to you
got to do it without any attachments. But when it
comes back, it's like damn. You know, Like consider Danny
that if you knew the people around you had your
back one hundred freaking percent, and they knew you had
their back one hundred freaking percent, it's like everything else
in life becomes a very small detail.
Speaker 2: You know. We got this, bring on.
Speaker 1: It, you know, yeah, because like you want It's like
I didn't realize that you were thinking about me, Like wow,
thank you, Like it's so simple. Yeah, I guess I
never thought about that. I give you a compliments some time,
but then I feel like weird. I'm like, I don't.
I'm like not trying to be weird. I just like
like your hair today, or you know, like that's like
a nice outfit. It makes people feel good. And I'm
in the habit of like complimenting every other women because
I don't know, it's easier to do, I think, but yeah,
I guess I never thought about it like that, Like
giving back.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's really easy just to go good.
Speaker 3: Morning John, you know, and just send that three words
good morning, you know, Terry John, just and that they
know that you've thought of.
Speaker 2: Them and you've sent that greeting through and like, oh,
that's just just asking.
Speaker 3: I always ask myself what would I like today, And
once I'm at the right energetic state, I will then
give it to others.
Speaker 2: And this is this is where Tim gets a bit woo.
Speaker 3: Woo right now, because you know, like I said, I
had to go to Afghanistan to realize that the person
next to me stronger than I'm stronger. These days, I
actually see that other people are just other versions of me.
I'm not Tim, I'm another form of Danny, okay. And
you know, going through life, it is it seems quite
natural to reach a certain point where you want to
build up others.
Speaker 2: And I don't actually see others as others.
Speaker 3: They're just other forms of me in the way that
you know when you go to the gym, there's some
guys that just work arms, and they're just these big
arms walking around.
Speaker 2: They couldn't do a sit.
Speaker 3: Up or you know, you know, a leg press, but
they've got these big arms, right, And so I put
it to them that they're not fully strong.
Speaker 2: Okay, So in this world.
Speaker 3: That as I see, we're all interconnected, I want all
of me to be strong. So it's it's almost a
selfish act when I do what I can to strengthen
those around me, because they're they're all the other parts
of me.
Speaker 2: And when I.
Speaker 3: See it like that, I detach from the idea of
getting a you know, I give something and then I
expect something back, because that's just that's just another part
of me, and they they if I'm going to be
fully strong, this is how I how I have to think.
Speaker 1: Right, So, how do we teach ourselves breath work?
Speaker 2: Like? What do we do? Sure? Well?
Speaker 3: First up, it's everything starts with seeing the self benefit
and how quickly it can benefit you and I'd love
to show you just how quickly that can happen if
you're open to doing a little, a little, a few breaths.
So my party trick, Danny is I'll show you how
to completely relax your body in just three breaths.
Speaker 1: I fall asleep because I did not get a good
night sleep last night.
Speaker 2: Tim, Well, this is.
Speaker 3: Perfect, okay, So just just register right now if I was.
Because when I'm working with people, I'll ask how good
are you feeling out of ten?
Speaker 2: And how bad are you feeling out of ten?
Speaker 3: Get that so if you go, I should have had
a bad night sleeper, So see how I'm balancing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean, because I feel like, okay,
I don't know, like a seven.
Speaker 2: Okay, and how and that's good or bad? I feel
good okay seven?
Speaker 3: And if I say how bad you are feeling, then
wouldn't that be three?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 1: Well, like, wouldn't I just give it the other number?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: No, Well the invitation is to see that when you
look at the bad stuff, it's amazing how.
Speaker 2: Quickly it grows. You get that, so, so oh you
know I did sleep poorly? That you know what?
Speaker 3: Just to sort of whatever you look at grows right.
But what I'm going to do now is because breath
has the ability to change your state, we have to
give ourselves permission for that's eight change to happen. And
often our current state is locked into into every cell
without knowing it. So when I when I start any
kind of practice, I always ask for permission from the
person because this is just an invitation. Okay, you know so, So, Danny,
do you give permission to your very own breath to
fully nourish every single.
Speaker 2: Cell in your body? Yes? Awesome, that was easy.
Speaker 3: Next question, do you give permission to your very own
breath to fully nourish your conscious thinking mind?
Speaker 2: Yes? Great?
Speaker 3: Last one, Danny, do you give full permission to your
very own breath to fully nourish your unconscious mind?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: That was harder. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, like yeah, I'll do it, but like I'm
a little nervous about it.
Speaker 3: No, this is great, This is great, okay, And and
this is going to be really simple. I'm going to
be here the whole time coaching you three step by step.
So all I'm going to get you to do is
blow out and then breathe in, then breathe.
Speaker 2: In more and more and more and more and more. Okay,
so I invite you to to blow it out and.
Speaker 3: Shake as you blow it out, blow it out, shake
it out, blow it out, shake it out, out out out, out,
out out out, And when you're all the way out,
start breathing in.
Speaker 2: Now, breathe in more more and more, more, more, more
more more more more more more more more more.
Speaker 3: Now hold it and just wriggle for a bit, wriggle
and if it feels good, let it out with a
nice big sigh.
Speaker 2: Just let that go through your system.
Speaker 3: That's your sovereign energy. Well, little dizzy, Yeah, so we're
auctionating our system. And when you're breathed in a bit
more and more, did you notice how you breathe in
a bit more to your top third?
Speaker 2: And can.
Speaker 3: This is your This basically is, as I understand it,
where your energy levels sit. So when we're breathing into here,
we're getting a lot more energy, not just because of
the oxygen exchange. Is that when we're you know, if
you've got the weight of the world on your shoulders,
you're hunched over and you're crushing your top third. So
breathing into your top third makes you more structurally aligned. Okay,
and think of it. Think of it like this, and
this is this is this was backed up with some
military stats. Our body runs off electricity, okay, and there's
all these electrical cables going from your brain through your system.
But they're not like hard cables. They're like soft and
squishy garden hoses, you know. And you know when you
step on your garden hoses, less water going through. Well,
when we're hunched over, we're essentially stepping on our energetic hoses.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: So when we're breathing properly, it's not just the best breath,
it's the alignment.
Speaker 2: And here's the funny thing.
Speaker 3: When I work with the British Special Forces, they found
that every degree your structure was out, you lost between
eight and twelve percent strength.
Speaker 2: Wow. Okay. So let's say I could carry one hundred kilos.
Speaker 3: If I'm one degree out, I can only carry eighty
eight to ninety two. Okay, So consider consider that one
proper breath can actually make you eight to twelve percent stronger.
Speaker 1: And that makes a lot of people want to do it,
especially men. I think, like I think, I don't know,
you could correct me, because I'm probably wrong. But I
feel like men are probably more nervous to do breath
work than women. But you tell them like you'll be
stronger that they'll do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's I'm talking about self benefit right now. Okay,
all right, so yeah, heck, I don't want to be injured.
Speaker 2: I don't want to you know that that's important to me,
so self benefit. Right.
Speaker 3: So what I'm going to show you right now, and
this is the joy I get from my job. I
show people because we all own bodies, right, but most
people think it's just something that a meat bag that
carries my eyeballs around, you know, to look at my phone.
What I'm going to show you right now is a
little thing inside your body that will help power up
this this top third.
Speaker 2: Okay. So in your two fingers and thumbs, if you
pinch them together, they become a power button. Okay.
Speaker 3: So what I'm going to get you to do is
I've got mine up here so you can see them,
but put yours down by the side, and we're going
to exhale, and then halfway through we're going to pinch
those power buttons and boost and see how that boosts
the top third inhale.
Speaker 1: Okay, so during the we're going to pinch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, on the inhal so we're going to blow it,
shake it out, okay, blow it out, shake it out,
blow it at, yep, blow it out, shake it out,
blow it out, shake it.
Speaker 3: Out, out out, out, out out, And when you're all
the way out, start breathing in, and then halfway through,
hit those power buttons.
Speaker 2: And look up, look up, look up, look up.
Speaker 3: Breathing, breathe and breathe in, hold it, wriggle gently, wriggle
and stretch, wriggle and stretch, wriggle and stretch, stretch out.
Speaker 2: Any kind of stuck energy, and when you can't stop it,
let out the juiciest sigh ah.
Speaker 1: And it feels dizzy that time.
Speaker 3: Did you notice anything as you're breathing in when you
pinched those fingers, the top third of your energy, top
third of your lungs inhaled a bit more.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think I brought attention to it too, because I
was like paying attention.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, most people never pay attention to this.
Speaker 3: And it's a if you saw someone rapidly shallow breathing,
you know they're they're freaking out, okay, and that's pumping
more cortisol and stress through your system. A lot of
people don't know that. It doesn't matter if you breathe shallow,
fast or slow. You're sending a signal through your system
that you're in fight or flight. You can't rest properly,
your brain can't switch off. Okay, So what I'm going
to show you now is a way to enhance your
parasympathetic nervous system.
Speaker 2: You'll rest and digest. So all of us, we all
have noses. Okay, that's mine. It's funny when you look
at it and.
Speaker 1: It doesn't look broken. Do you break your nose? It is?
Speaker 2: Oh, it is? Yeah.
Speaker 3: Before I was in the army, I was a professional fighter.
Oh early days, early day to mixed martial arts.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And the point I'm trying to make here is, even
if you've got what's called a deviated septum, behind our
noses is the sinus systems. And when I was fighting,
my coach always used to tell me, before you do
a combination, tim do a big snort, okay, because in
his mind, that pulled oxygen rapidly over.
Speaker 2: The sinuses to oxenate the brain.
Speaker 3: You bypass the lungs when you give it a rapid
inhal through the nose, and whether that was based in
science or not, I don't know, but it helped me
perform when I needed it. And what I'm going to
get you to do now is do the same exhale,
but then with your mouth closed, I want you to snort,
like really push your nose to the ceiling and snort
that air in like you're trying to snort air over
your sinuses and into your brain.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So we're simply almost going to do
the same thing, but we're going to sort of double
the speed of our in house and.
Speaker 2: We're gonna suck it over our nose.
Speaker 3: Cook cool, all right, So blow it out, shake it out.
Have your power buttons ready, power buttons ready, and when
you're all the way out, hit those power buttons rapid
breathe in.
Speaker 2: Gently, regal and let it out with it. Let that
energy you go through your.
Speaker 3: Body, conscious and unconscious mind. You can feel lightheaded, but
that's okay. When you when you're breathing for the first time,
it can feel a bit like, you know, when you
run around the block for the first time and you
haven't gotten and it feels really kind of like, oh,
this is almost a bit too much.
Speaker 2: Well, this is this is your breathing receptivity.
Speaker 3: You know, your your threshold increasing, So so be jannle
on yourself.
Speaker 2: So another thing our economy of dysfunction bases itself.
Speaker 3: On Danny is our lack of awareness of what our
body can do for ourselves.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you breathing through your nose right now.
Speaker 3: Your sinus cavities produce a particular kind of gas. It's
called nitric oxide. Okay, we don't create nitric oxide by
mouth breathing. We get it through nasal breathing. And nitric
oxide is a vasodilator. It helps with brain function, cardiac function,
your immune system, your recovery post workout, sexual function. Okay,
without tangenting too much, they gave nitric oxide to athletes
to improve their performance and they had this unexpected sexual
function performance. So viagra has a lot of nitric oxide
in it. But what I'm trying to say here is
it's not a system you have in your body that
isn't benefited from nitric oxide. So nasal breathing creates this
medicinal result. And you know, to drive the point home, Danny.
You know, I imagine if you went to a chemist
and said, hey, I want something to help my brain
function better, to help my perform better at you know,
working out, sleep better, mood improve. How much do you
think you'd pay for all the stuff.
Speaker 1: They'd give you so much and they give you some
different things.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because because we don't know, we can create this
medicine ourselves. So Naise will breathe and creates this nitric oxide,
and nitric oxide its uptake is increased by a two
hundred percent when you hum. Oh okay, So you see
these you know, people meditating up m you know, they're
just tapping into their own nitric oxide, which then has
this really potent effect on everything. So I'm gonna have
an invitation right now. We're going to do the same
thing again, and we're just going to relax everything and
then hum with your mouth closed for as long as.
Speaker 1: Possible while you're holding your breath.
Speaker 3: That will will when you we're going to breathe in,
We're going to relax, and then as your breath comes out,
we're not going to go through our mouth.
Speaker 2: We're going to go for as long as possible through
our nose. Cool cool.
Speaker 3: So with your power buttons ready, we're going to blow
it out, shake it out, blow it out, shake it.
Speaker 2: Out, out out, out, out out, and then when you're ready,
wrap it in. Hale, looking up through your nose.
Speaker 3: Open, open, open, regulate any tension, and then just relax
your head forward.
Speaker 2: Relax your head forward. I encourage you to put.
Speaker 3: Your hands on your belly and then just start humming
long as possible, long as possible, and just let that
energy wash through your system.
Speaker 1: I feel lighter, like, just like I just feel later. Yeah,
how else to explain that?
Speaker 3: Well, what you're tapping into right now, it's often hard
to explain because you have to understand us as evolve
human beings. Before we were speaking and thinking, we were breathing.
You're tapping into your deep ancient wiring, and that deep
ancient wiring out ranks your thinking mind. So this is
why when we happened to our breath has such a
powerful effect and our thinking mind, and our thinking mind
doesn't want to give up its ownership. And so this
is why breath work often needs to be guided, because
we'll kind of talk ourselves out of it.
Speaker 2: That makes sense, and.
Speaker 3: Giving yourself the ability to bring yourself back to center
is really key. And everything I do, Danny, it has
to be powerful and positive. But the third one is
most important permanent. My promise when I was coming out
of the healing space, as if I was ever in
a position to help other people, I wanted to give
them permanent access to this power, right Yeah. And so
if that little power button that you have, I encourage
people to have that ready so when they go through
their day and someone something takes.
Speaker 2: Their focus away from their body. Like you know, I'm human.
Speaker 3: Things annoy me, you know, whether it's you know, in
a queue or you know, in traffic. I have these
little power buttons and I'll snort shake it and you know,
discreetly in public. You know, because I noticed that if
I went through my day and things would happen and
I just sucked it up and I didn't, you know,
breathe through it, then I'd have to drink.
Speaker 2: Alcohol at the end of the day.
Speaker 3: I'd have to deal with it like that through through
an external source. And the economy is dysfunctioned. Loves it
when I can't access my own resources, because it'll provide.
Speaker 2: It, you know.
Speaker 3: So I encourage people as you're walking around the place,
get used to using your power buttons as I call them,
you can, you can call them whatever you want. But
but then when you're out in the real world and
something bothers you, Oh there's somebody doing something that bothers me.
First thing I'm going to do is breathe. I'm going
to get back to me. This is this is where
my power is. I'm not going to give my power
away anymore. So that little exercise, you know, you could
treat it like your medicine button, you know, or you know,
when you're in hospital, call the nurse button, whatever whatever
has you log that as your first port of call
for being the person you're born to be. And I
don't think we were born to be continually off centered
by things that continually, you know, cause a stress.
Speaker 1: No, I think they love to do that to us.
I think they like to cause us stress and put
us off kilter. They don't want us working at our
highest capacity or a threat to them at that point.
Speaker 3: Well, they're completely redundant at that point, yeah, and they'll
fight like hell to to maintain that dependency. And my
vision is to ultimately imagine a metric of success of.
Speaker 2: A company or a government being the quality sleep of
the people they govern.
Speaker 3: Okay, Like that's no small thing because you can say, hey,
I'm doing a great job, I'm making roads, I'm making
you building factories. But are the people you govern sleeping
peacelly in their beds at night? I believe we earthen
that much. And that's a very measurable metric, you know. Yeah,
So ultimately that would be my vision to have to have,
you know, sleep as a metric of success.
Speaker 1: I think that's reasonable. And it's like, it's so helpful
just sleeping, well, it restores everything in your body. Wow,
So Tim, where can everybody else find this? Obviously you
and I did this here right now, and they're gonna
listen to this, right, but like, where can they find you?
Speaker 2: Sure? Well?
Speaker 3: Like I said, my promise was to create easy access
to this stuff, because when people are fatigued, they just
want to go, look, here's what I want to do
it for me. It's hard to take on a bunch
of new stuff. So they're probably used to people saying, oh,
sleep's important, but here's a thousand things you've got to
do before sleep. I realized that that just doesn't work,
so I created a if anyone's got a phone and
they download the breath Work in Bed app. They just
tell it when you want, when they want to sleep,
and we take care of the rest.
Speaker 1: Oh perfect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it just it just falls out of your phone.
So it's made for people. Look, here's what I want.
Take care of it.
Speaker 2: For me.
Speaker 3: It falls out of your phone. You tap the thing,
you know when you're going to sleep. And if I
don't get it, I generally don't do something. And so
those little reminders are just just absolute golden And that's
what we do. And if you if you're and the
morning one is in there.
Speaker 1: As well, so that's amazing, thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no worries at all.
Speaker 3: And I mean obviously, and I do have a twenty
eight day free trial if people just want to trial
it and see if breath work works for them. But
I can say this time and time again, I've seen
it work. In fact, there was a guy who hadn't
I knew this guy, and he hadn't slept in.
Speaker 2: Over thirty eight years.
Speaker 3: He had insomnia and he just thought it was normal.
I prescribed him some breath work and I checked in
eight days later and he says, Tim, the only time
I woke up was when the dog barked.
Speaker 2: And this guy was in his in his late fifties.
Speaker 3: And now he is training to be a in the
world's fastest sixty plus triathlete.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you met somebody that it hasn't worked for?
Have you ever met somebody that, like, breathwork just doesn't work.
Speaker 2: Well if.
Speaker 3: If people have not given themselves permission, like I didn't, like,
they're locked in that state. But usually when they're not
feeling alone anymore, there's people.
Speaker 2: That they can trust.
Speaker 3: This ancient wiring usually outranks this and and I'm sure
there's exceptions to every rule, but I would very comfortably
say eighty percent of people.
Speaker 2: And this is that's an understatement.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking if I was to give it a number,
probably ninety plus percent. But if you say like ninety
plus percent, people go, well, you can't make me do something.
Speaker 2: There that automatic position.
Speaker 3: So this is why this is all an invitation, and
it's all about you giving yourself permission to experience what's
inside of you.
Speaker 2: Actually, you know what. There was one person I remember now,
I was running this group and.
Speaker 3: And everybody loved it, but this one lady came up
and said I didn't get anything from that, but the
scale to which she went to impede herself was incredible.
She said, I felt my own pain, I felt everyone's
pain in the room. I then felt everyone's pain on
the planet. You know, she really had to scale up
how much the blockages she had to maintain to actually
stop this coming through. And I'm like, well, that is
rather incredible the level of blockage you had to maintain
and how far you had to go for that. So yest,
thanks for refreshing me to that. So yes, I would say,
you know, once I doesn't fit all, but that's why,
you know, try for twenty eight days's not going to
cost you anything. And in fact, the amount of times
that saved me at two am, when I've woken up
and my thoughts are doing those ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that that that.
Speaker 3: Has been you know, a real game change, it, you know,
to me and everyone I know?
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I mean yeah, even in like the little
couple exercises we did here, like wow, like I just
feel like I don't know, like different something, but I
have heard, like I told you before we started recording,
like every time I'm listening to like a biohackers, like
functional health medicine like or like even like physical fitness gurus, right, like,
everybody's like, you have to sleep better, breath works like
the easiest way to like hack your body. And I'm like, okay,
well everybody's saying it, like why are we not listening?
Speaker 3: Well, they're saying it that they're often not giving access
to people where they need it. Okay, because these people
they're up on the energetic super highway, right, Oh look
at me, I'm all right, but someone who's actually been
in that place, they know how.
Speaker 2: To create what I call an energetic on ramp. You've
got to meet them where they are.
Speaker 3: So people down here go, yeah, this is what I want,
take care of it for me. And the genius of
what I do is it's very simple stuff, but it's accessible.
It just it just falls out of your phone twice
a day, boom boom, gun't And you know, most people,
it's like, oh, that felt good.
Speaker 2: More please? That felt good more please?
Speaker 3: And and then often it might take you know, a
couple of weeks of really good night's sleep and then
they're like, oh wow, I actually I'm going to do
an act of generosity to somebody else. And that's that's
encouraged within the space. Again, it's all an invitation, But
to be able to have stewardship over your own body
starts with knowing how amazing it is and what it
can do, and how and how your breath is. The
is the link between your peace and your productivity, your
peace and prosperity.
Speaker 2: But it doesn't in my experience. It does need to
be guided because it's our oldest habit and if I
didn't have.
Speaker 3: That guidance, it wouldn't be turned into that medicinal dose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense. Is there anywhere else everybody can
find you?
Speaker 2: I'll link.
Speaker 1: I'll love the app in the show notes as well,
But whatever else you want me to link.
Speaker 3: Well, look, if you look up breath, I've got social
breath work in bed. It's all there because I have to.
I think social media is just turning into social junk mail.
I've got it because it's there, and there are a
few little healthy tips that I that I put in there.
But you know, if I could the exciting part for
me for people listening, and I acknowledge you for listening
and tuning in, you know, Danny and myself. The exciting
thing is not just the sleep.
Speaker 2: It's all the awesome things.
Speaker 3: That are inside of you that it will come out
naturally easily and effortlessly once we start getting that sleep improved,
because those dormant seeds of uniqueness and greatness, they don't
flourish on their own. They need the right environment. And
I love seeing things come out of people. It's like
seeing a color you've never seen before, like, oh wow,
I never even knew that existed. So I can't do
what you do, Danny or your listeners, but I just
have observed that if I can improve sleep quality, you know,
naturally immediately, then they bring their gifts into the world
even better.
Speaker 1: Which everybody wants to see your gifts. I like exploring people,
like I'm very curious about people. I like to know
more about people, So like, yeah, I want to see
your gifts, but I don't know people people I like them.
So but until next week, my friends, stay skeptical and
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