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Speaker 2: Hey everybody, this is Less Striving Yes, yes, I know
Speaker 2: aka Survivor Man, and you're listening to Brian on sasquatch Otisen.
Speaker 1: Hey Daron, welcome back to sasquatchts. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for clicking play. It is Friday. I hope you're having
Speaker 1: your great week. We have an amazing guest lined up
Speaker 1: for you. But as always, I want to start by
Speaker 1: inviting you. If you've had an encounter and you'd like
Speaker 1: to be on the show, shoot me an email and
Speaker 1: get me at Brian at Paranormalorodproductions dot com. Can head
Speaker 1: over to the website, check out the blog, become a
Speaker 1: member there and help support the show. I got to
Speaker 1: sit down and talk to DuRane from Illinois, and she
Speaker 1: has had quite a few experiences with bigfoot that would
Speaker 1: definitely be in the high Strangeness camp. She and I
Speaker 1: get into quite the discussion about whether these things are
Speaker 1: flesh and blood or whether there's more to them. Dane
Speaker 1: definitely thinks there's more to them. We get into all
Speaker 1: of that stuff. She did send me quite a few photographs.
Speaker 1: If you want to see those photos, make sure you
Speaker 1: head over to Paranormalworldproductions dot com check out the Sasquatch
Speaker 1: Ota See blog at the top of the page, and
Speaker 1: you can see all the photographs that DuRane and I
Speaker 1: are talking about during this episode, including folks some footprints
Speaker 1: that she claims are made by Sasquatch in her carpet
Speaker 1: inside her home. This is definitely one that you don't
Speaker 1: want to miss, so you know what that means. All
Speaker 1: that's left for you to do is sit back, relax,
Speaker 1: and enjoy the show. I want to welcome our guest
Speaker 1: to the show. It is DuRaine from Illinois. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 3: Hi great to be here.
Speaker 1: I am so glad to have you been looking forward
Speaker 1: to this conversation. Let's get right into it. Let's start
Speaker 1: with the obvious question for most people who listened to
Speaker 1: the show, what got you interested in the subject to
Speaker 1: begin with?
Speaker 3: Strangely enough, my mother was interested in the subject when
Speaker 3: I was pretty small, so she used to watch every
Speaker 3: single TV show she could, which there weren't very many
Speaker 3: at that time, but she used to watch every TV
Speaker 3: show that she could find about the subject. It was
Speaker 3: fascinating to me. So I watched a lot of those
Speaker 3: shows with her, a lot of the early ones like
Speaker 3: in Search of You remember in Search of the Bigfoot
Speaker 3: episode I'll say was probably in the early seventies when
Speaker 3: I actually saw the first film of Patty walking down
Speaker 3: Bluff Creek. We were both pretty fascinated by that. I
Speaker 3: think I was hooked when I saw that because people
Speaker 3: thought it wasn't real, and something inside of me knew
Speaker 3: that it was real. There are reasons for that because
Speaker 3: of my childhood and things that happened to me and
Speaker 3: my childhood that made me think that was real when
Speaker 3: I saw it. I guess those were the first experiences
Speaker 3: that really got me interested. But I had some strange
Speaker 3: things happen to me also that kind of connect to
Speaker 3: what's going on with me now in my situation here
Speaker 3: in my home.
Speaker 1: You're definitely in the right place to talk about strange things.
Speaker 1: So let's just get right into the childhood stuff.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about.
Speaker 1: Those first experiences. I started the beginning work your way
Speaker 1: through what happened to.
Speaker 3: You, Aaron, If you want to talk about the very
Speaker 3: first experience, when I was about ten years old, I
Speaker 3: was sitting with my mother in the car we were
Speaker 3: getting ready to leave to go shopping. I looked across
Speaker 3: in a neighbors yard and I saw a man. It
Speaker 3: was a bush that looked like a man. I looked
Speaker 3: at my mom. I said, do you see that bush
Speaker 3: over there? It looks like a man. And she looked
Speaker 3: over there. She's that does not look like a man.
Speaker 3: That does not look like a man at all. It
Speaker 3: looks like a bush. Okay. I just kept looking at it,
Speaker 3: and I thought, there's something about that. Anyway, she basically
Speaker 3: ignored me, and I got the idea that I wasn't
Speaker 3: supposed to talk about things like that, so I just
Speaker 3: didn't talk about it anymore. I grew up in a
Speaker 3: river town in central Illinois. It was a very forested
Speaker 3: area along the river. I used to try to escape
Speaker 3: from school and the stresses of everything I didn't really
Speaker 3: fit in. Escaped to the forest around the area. Always
Speaker 3: felt like there was something there, There was something watching
Speaker 3: me all the time. Couldn't really shake that feeling. It
Speaker 3: was fascinating to me, so I always went back there.
Speaker 3: I was never afraid of it. I just always wanted
Speaker 3: to be there. I thought that was interesting. Everybody else
Speaker 3: thought I was crazy of course, because I wanted to
Speaker 3: spend so much time out there, but I spent a
Speaker 3: lot of time alone, and I was out there and
Speaker 3: I really felt like I was basically surrounded by something,
Speaker 3: but I didn't really understand what. I didn't make the
Speaker 3: connections at that time. And I can remember having a
Speaker 3: dream one night that there were eights in my yard.
Speaker 3: I was talking to them. They understood me, and I
Speaker 3: understood them. We were having a conversation. And it was
Speaker 3: just little things that I didn't think that much about
Speaker 3: then but now I think about now are pretty profound.
Speaker 3: I used to get out of bed at night when
Speaker 3: I was little, and my dad would say, don't get
Speaker 3: out of bed, or the boogeyman will get you. The
Speaker 3: picture I had in my head that the boogeyman was Bigfoot,
Speaker 3: clear as anything like. I was four years old and
Speaker 3: I had this picture in my mind of Bigfoot before
Speaker 3: I had ever seen one that looked exactly like it
Speaker 3: when I think about it now. When he said that,
Speaker 3: I had a picture that came really clear into my
Speaker 3: head about what that was, and it was scary. But
Speaker 3: I didn't stay in bed, of course, just little things
Speaker 3: that I think about now for my childhood. I realized
Speaker 3: there was some connection for me, and I think a
Speaker 3: lot of people have this connection and they don't understand
Speaker 3: what it is. But that's what I'm going to talk
Speaker 3: about here. I think basically a lot of years went
Speaker 3: by and I didn't think about them too much. But
Speaker 3: I found out later that they'd been with me that
Speaker 3: whole time. I found out later that they'd been with
Speaker 3: me since I was nine years old. I started official
Speaker 3: Bigfoot research about twenty eleven. I started working with a
Speaker 3: research team out of Kentucky. I started working with them.
Speaker 3: I was mostly writing articles about the subject, my thoughts
Speaker 3: out there about what they might be, why they might
Speaker 3: be different, or why we haven't found them yet. At
Speaker 3: that point in time, I didn't really have any frame
Speaker 3: of reference. I just had a lot of thoughts go
Speaker 3: through my head about why the situation with them is
Speaker 3: what it is. I wrote articles that have turned out
Speaker 3: to be true in some respects and that's been ten
Speaker 3: years ago, but it just all evolved. I was at
Speaker 3: that time trying to be logical about it, trying to
Speaker 3: be scientific about it, because at that point in time,
Speaker 3: we were trying to prove they exist. Now a lot
Speaker 3: of us aren't worried about proving the exist. We know
Speaker 3: they exist. I was basically going out into the woods
Speaker 3: like I always had. I was taking pictures and looking
Speaker 3: for footprints and finding a lot of things, structures, footprints,
Speaker 3: things like that that never saw a thing, of course,
Speaker 3: Or you're snapping pictures everywhere and you think you might
Speaker 3: have saw something. You aim the camera in the direction
Speaker 3: you heard something, and you snap a picture and later
Speaker 3: on it's blurry. I'm a wildlife photographer, so I don't
Speaker 3: generally take blurry pictures. The pictures turn out blurry. Nonetheless,
Speaker 3: I'm out there. I know there's something out there because
Speaker 3: I have the same feeling that I had when I
Speaker 3: was a kid that there's something watching me. And started
Speaker 3: talking to them because I knew they were there. I mean,
Speaker 3: there was just part of me that just knew they
Speaker 3: were there, and I knew they were pretty close to me.
Speaker 3: So I started talking to them. I sometimes took them
Speaker 3: some food, but mostly I just talked to them and
Speaker 3: I just sat there with them for a while. I
Speaker 3: did that for quite a while. They finally started leaving
Speaker 3: me little gifts. They leave me glyphs, rock stacks, feathers
Speaker 3: in strange places.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 3: Actually I'm a caregiver. I was at a client's house.
Speaker 3: They left me a feather in my car seat, things
Speaker 3: like that. They were starting to try to connect with me,
Speaker 3: but all that time I didn't realize they'd been with
Speaker 3: me since I was pretty young. This is something I
Speaker 3: didn't know. This all came together, so the story is huge.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I can tell it well because there's
Speaker 3: so much. But they connected with me. Finally I got
Speaker 3: help from people who mind speak got some help trying
Speaker 3: to understand what they were telling me. After a time
Speaker 3: when they had been leaving me gifts and trying to
Speaker 3: connect with me, I was trying to communicate with them,
Speaker 3: or I thought I would really like to communicate with them,
Speaker 3: so I'd go out and sit in the woods and
Speaker 3: see if I could hear something. Of course, nothing happened
Speaker 3: because I wasn't really very good at tellethy at that time.
Speaker 3: That's what mind speak is, it's telepathy. I kept trying,
Speaker 3: kept listening as this was all going on. They were
Speaker 3: bringing me gifts, they were trying to connect with me.
Speaker 3: I knew that I needed to communicate somehow, but I
Speaker 3: didn't know what to do. In the meantime, something started happening.
Speaker 3: Their structures that they had built in this area that
Speaker 3: I'm talking about got destroyed. Something was building what looked
Speaker 3: like a fence all along the lake. It looked like
Speaker 3: a long barrier that went. It wasn't at the lake.
Speaker 3: It was up the hill from the lake, next to
Speaker 3: the road. But something was building barriers all the way
Speaker 3: down this road. The structures that the Bigfoot had built
Speaker 3: were being destroyed systematically. When I went back to those woods,
Speaker 3: the woods were being torn apart. It looked like there
Speaker 3: had been a war there. I kept going back there,
Speaker 3: even though common sense told me that something bad was
Speaker 3: going on there. I was concerned about my Bigfoot family
Speaker 3: that was out there. I was trying to communicate with them.
Speaker 3: I was trying to find a way to communicate with them.
Speaker 3: One day, I actually turned on the radio. I asked
Speaker 3: them if they could hear me. I asked them if
Speaker 3: they could tell me if they're okay. I turned on
Speaker 3: the radio and I heard on a frequency, can you
Speaker 3: hear me? Now? We are hurting? That's what it said.
Speaker 3: Anybody can do this. You can actually ask the universe
Speaker 3: a question. Turn on the radio. The first thing you
Speaker 3: hear is your answer. Because it's a frequency. There is
Speaker 3: definitely something too that I have to be careful because
Speaker 3: some bad things can occupy that frequency, they can break
Speaker 3: into it. This is when I started to understand that
Speaker 3: a lot of what I was experiencing was about frequency
Speaker 3: and vibration. I had known that on some level. I'd
Speaker 3: written some articles about that, but it starting to become
Speaker 3: clear that everything was about frequency and vibration. I started
Speaker 3: to realize that once I could learn about that stuff,
Speaker 3: I might be able to understand them better. They were hurting,
Speaker 3: they were having a war in that area. I didn't
Speaker 3: realize at the time how dangerous it was for me
Speaker 3: to be there. One Saturday morning, when I went there,
Speaker 3: I had the windows open on my truck and I
Speaker 3: was looking around at what had happened. I had a
Speaker 3: really intense feeling that something bad had gone down. The
Speaker 3: night before. I got to a certain area of the road,
Speaker 3: I could smell this smell like skunk, wet dog, sulfur
Speaker 3: kind of smell, really bad combination. That smell lingered there
Speaker 3: for several weeks. Actually, it was strange, but I knew
Speaker 3: something had happened, and I kept driving down that road,
Speaker 3: knowing I shouldn't be there. There was a branch thrown
Speaker 3: across the road. It didn't look like it fell off
Speaker 3: of any of the trees, because I looked it had
Speaker 3: fallen right across the road in such a way that
Speaker 3: there was no way I could drive through. It was
Speaker 3: a big enough branch, and it was right in the
Speaker 3: right place I could not drive through. I got out
Speaker 3: of the truck thinking that I was going to move
Speaker 3: this branch, and then I got this creepy feeling, really creepy,
Speaker 3: like you can't even imagine how creepy. I looked around,
Speaker 3: and as always, I snapped pictures of everything in the area.
Speaker 3: I got back in the truck and I turned around
Speaker 3: and I left because I thought I need to get
Speaker 3: the hell out of here. I got out of there,
Speaker 3: but I was really concerned about the family that I'd
Speaker 3: connect with out there. I was convinced it was a
Speaker 3: whole family. I thought the female was the one that
Speaker 3: was trying to connect with me, which turned out to
Speaker 3: be true. I got out of there, and I was
Speaker 3: very concerned about it for a long time. I went
Speaker 3: home and I didn't go back out there for several weeks.
Speaker 3: My city park that I usually take walks in. Three
Speaker 3: four weeks later, I started finding feathers there that they
Speaker 3: had stuck in the ground. I started finding glyphs. There
Speaker 3: was a teepee structure sitting out in the middle of
Speaker 3: a grassy area that I knew people had not built it.
Speaker 3: You can say they did, but I just knew on
Speaker 3: some level that they did not. I found branches that
Speaker 3: were broken off. Now to place. This park has a
Speaker 3: big wooded area in the middle of it, so it's
Speaker 3: a forest in the middle of the park. I started
Speaker 3: finding all these clues. Every time I would take a walk,
Speaker 3: they would leave me a feather or some little glyph
Speaker 3: for me to find. I got the idea that this
Speaker 3: family had moved into town.
Speaker 1: And stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to see. Right
Speaker 1: back after these messages.
Speaker 3: I was pretty sure that's what happened. So I put
Speaker 3: my hiking gear on and I go into the middle
Speaker 3: of this park. This forested area that people don't walk
Speaker 3: around into much, got very steep trails and things like that.
Speaker 3: I took a walk through there. I found a fourteen
Speaker 3: inch footprint, along with some other not so great footprints,
Speaker 3: but one really good footprint in the mud, almost like
Speaker 3: they left it to me as a gift. Had a
Speaker 3: really strange, what I would call mystical experience while I
Speaker 3: was in there, because I could just feel them really
Speaker 3: close to me, almost like they were trying to make
Speaker 3: me understand that they were right there, but they weren't
Speaker 3: going to show themselves to me. I thought that was okay,
Speaker 3: because I thought if I saw them, I would freak
Speaker 3: out for sure, because they're pretty big. They were all
Speaker 3: around me, and they were living in this park, and
Speaker 3: I thought that they had left that area out in
Speaker 3: the country by the lake in order to save themselves
Speaker 3: from all it was going on, whatever it was out there.
Speaker 3: They'd moved into town to get away from that because
Speaker 3: they had a family and all that stuff. Turns out
Speaker 3: there was a lot more to it. My relationship with
Speaker 3: them continued in that park for a couple of years.
Speaker 3: I actually took them food and things like that because
Speaker 3: I was concerned about them, but never did see anything
Speaker 3: at all. Up to that point. I knew they were there.
Speaker 3: I saw other things. This park in the middle of
Speaker 3: the city had deer suddenly occupying it. They had suddenly
Speaker 3: walked in from the country, and I thought people had
Speaker 3: told me about shape shifters, and of course I didn't
Speaker 3: believe any of that. I would have deer walk up
Speaker 3: to me on the trail in the middle of that
Speaker 3: park and just stare at me for a long time
Speaker 3: like they were trying to say something. Or I had
Speaker 3: a hawk come and sit on a branch very close
Speaker 3: to me, just above the trail. Just little things like that.
Speaker 3: What I was starting to have happened was a spiritual experience.
Speaker 3: For a lack of a better way to put it,
Speaker 3: it was like all the Native American stories seemed to
Speaker 3: be coming true for me because it was actually a
Speaker 3: spiritual experience. It was very mystical, It was very ethereal.
Speaker 3: It was like I walked into another dimension whenever I
Speaker 3: walked into those woods. I went into this trying to
Speaker 3: be logical about it and trying to get some real evidence,
Speaker 3: get some good pictures, get anything I could to prove
Speaker 3: it to other people. What was happening to me was
Speaker 3: the opposite. I was having a metaphysical experience. I was
Speaker 3: really not caring whether or not I proved anything. If
Speaker 3: I told people about this, most of them wouldn't believe
Speaker 3: it unless they'd had a similar experience, But a lot
Speaker 3: of things happened to me in those woods in the park.
Speaker 3: They spoke to me. They talked to me, you know
Speaker 3: what they call samurai chatter. I heard that as I
Speaker 3: was leaving the woods, after I'd left food for them,
Speaker 3: so I don't know. Maybe it was a thank you,
Speaker 3: but it sounded Billy, Bob Thornton and sling Blade the voice.
Speaker 3: That's what the voice sounded like. Just amazing things were happening.
Speaker 3: I kept taking pictures, of course, not seeing anything in
Speaker 3: any of the pictures, but I didn't know how to
Speaker 3: see them yet. That would come later. Before I could
Speaker 3: see them, I was having this really rich metaphysical experience
Speaker 3: of them. I knew they were real. I didn't know
Speaker 3: what to do with that. I didn't know what to
Speaker 3: do about it. There was nobody I could tell about it.
Speaker 3: A few people were starting to get it, so it
Speaker 3: was getting a little bit easier to talk to some
Speaker 3: people about it. That was my experience, as far as
Speaker 3: just learning they were there and learning that they were real,
Speaker 3: starting to understand why we never find them because we're
Speaker 3: not going to find them unless they want to be found.
Speaker 3: This all led to me learning mind speak, starting to
Speaker 3: learn to communicate with them. Now, after this incident in
Speaker 3: the park was going on for a while, I started
Speaker 3: finding things in my yard. Now, people had told me
Speaker 3: that they'll follow you home. This was the belief. I'm
Speaker 3: not entirely sure that's true anymore, but people would tell
Speaker 3: me that they will follow you home. You'll find evidence
Speaker 3: in your yard or somewhere around your house that they've
Speaker 3: been there, or you'll actually see them. Those things were
Speaker 3: starting to happen to me. I was finding glyphs around
Speaker 3: my house. I find glyphs on my patio and out
Speaker 3: in my front yard on the street front of my house,
Speaker 3: little gifts. I have a creek that runs through it
Speaker 3: in my area here, there's like a wooded strip of
Speaker 3: woods that runs along a creek here close to my house.
Speaker 3: I started taking walks through there, and I found all
Speaker 3: kinds of footprints, glypts, all kinds of evidence. Except I
Speaker 3: never saw them at all. I thought they're around my
Speaker 3: house and they followed me home. I thought this whole time,
Speaker 3: I was thinking that it was this one family that
Speaker 3: I had connected with. I thought they were following me.
Speaker 3: I thought it was their footprints and their evidence that
Speaker 3: I was finding still hadn't seen them. I was okay
Speaker 3: with that. I wasn't sure if I really wanted to
Speaker 3: see them. I wasn't sure what it would do to me.
Speaker 3: I was starting to soften on that idea a little bit.
Speaker 3: I would take a walk every night thinking that I
Speaker 3: was going to visit them. I was, but I didn't
Speaker 3: realize there were hundreds of them just in my neighborhood.
Speaker 3: Getting back to the war that happened out by the lake,
Speaker 3: there was something pretty sinister that had showed up that
Speaker 3: was chasing them out. I found information about that later
Speaker 3: from a friend who knows about that stuff. The dog
Speaker 3: men had moved into that area, and they are the
Speaker 3: ones that built the barriers. Eventually, the dog men built
Speaker 3: barriers and things around my neighborhood. Even now, I have
Speaker 3: dog men here also. Now I did not at first,
Speaker 3: but I do now. I'm told that they are the soldiers.
Speaker 3: They are the ones who fight the wars. They are
Speaker 3: the ones that actually cleared out the riff raff, whatever
Speaker 3: negative entities were hanging around out by the lake where
Speaker 3: I originally found this family. I have a very interesting
Speaker 3: mix of beings around here. Now they also come into
Speaker 3: the house I've had bigfoot footprints in my carpet. I
Speaker 3: have carpets that's old needs to be replaced, but I
Speaker 3: am reluctant to replace it because I have so many
Speaker 3: footprints in my house that it's destroying my carpet. I
Speaker 3: have pictures of the footprints. Life has gotten really strange.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of reasons for what happened. I
Speaker 3: understand why it's happening now, but it's taken me a
Speaker 3: long time to come to terms with how this is
Speaker 3: all playing out and why it's playing out this way.
Speaker 3: It's something that I have had trouble with talking about
Speaker 3: because it is so weird. I feel like everybody is
Speaker 3: softening up a little bit on the idea of it
Speaker 3: a little bit. But people freak out when you say
Speaker 3: you've got big foot walking around in your house at night.
Speaker 3: If people believe you, it freaks them out a little
Speaker 3: bit because they can just walk in here, and if
Speaker 3: they can walk in here, they can walk in anywhere
Speaker 3: they want. But there's a reason why they do it.
Speaker 3: The story goes on and on. So how far do
Speaker 3: you want to go?
Speaker 1: I definitely want to go deeper. There's quite a few
Speaker 1: things I want to talk about. Let's start with a
Speaker 1: couple of things. You said something that was very interesting
Speaker 1: to me that I've seen in a couple of different
Speaker 1: Facebook groups recently. I'm not going to name the people
Speaker 1: by name or anything like that. I'm just going to
Speaker 1: say this. I've known people who have had experiences with Bigfoot.
Speaker 1: They're in some of the groups, they're posting some of
Speaker 1: the things they're posting. Let's be honest, there is a
Speaker 1: lot of paradulity out there. There's a lot of people
Speaker 1: posting what I believe to be pictures of sticks, leaves,
Speaker 1: and trees. It's either the red circle squatch or there's
Speaker 1: nothing there just saying okay, here's a picture of the
Speaker 1: sasquatch that I saw yesterday while I was out doing
Speaker 1: my research. And I can't see what they see. We've
Speaker 1: done our shows about this, Wayne, my co hooked over
Speaker 1: on that Bigfoot podcast. We've done entire shows about this.
Speaker 1: Because what I'll see is exactly what you said, I
Speaker 1: wrote it down verbatim. Is learning how to see them.
Speaker 1: It's clearly a thing that I'm not getting. Let's start there.
Speaker 1: If you wouldn't mind explaining what that means to me
Speaker 1: and everybody listening. Is that why we're seeing because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of us out here. I'm a very skeptical person.
Speaker 1: I've had experiences that I believe to be sasquatch related.
Speaker 1: I believe I interacted with sasquatch a couple of times
Speaker 1: on my trip up to Radium last October. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying I don't believe that exists, but I've never seen one.
Speaker 1: I've never had a definitive, defining moment where I can
Speaker 1: say I am definitely one hundred percent of nowhere because
Speaker 1: I've seen these things. When we see these photos in
Speaker 1: these groups that people put out and they're adamant that
Speaker 1: there's a sasquatch right there and nobody can see it
Speaker 1: but them and maybe five other people in the group,
Speaker 1: is that similar to what you're talking about. If you
Speaker 1: explain that process, maybe it'll help me and other people
Speaker 1: listening to understand what that means learning how to see them.
Speaker 3: First of all, I would say that you might be
Speaker 3: correct at least part of the time. Now, you've got
Speaker 3: to understand that behind all of these pictures that people
Speaker 3: take that they say there's a sasquatch in most generally
Speaker 3: they're not trying to pull the wool over your eyes.
Speaker 3: They're not trying to fool you into something. First, you
Speaker 3: have to erase that idea in your head that somebody's
Speaker 3: trying to get you. There's a whole experience behind these pictures.
Speaker 3: It's not just seeing something, it's feeling. Most of the
Speaker 3: people that I know personally that have these kind of
Speaker 3: experiences are impaths. They can feel every frickin' thing. They
Speaker 3: can feel way too much. They pick up on other
Speaker 3: people's emotions, They pick up on everything. It's a curse
Speaker 3: to them because they think there's a lot of this
Speaker 3: negative stuff that they don't want, But there is a
Speaker 3: feeling experience behind it, and a lot of people who
Speaker 3: are skeptical can't really wrap their mind around that, or
Speaker 3: they don't like that because feelings we think are invalid.
Speaker 3: We think that feelings are a nuisance, but feelings are
Speaker 3: actually once you start to understand reality and how it
Speaker 3: really works, feelings are the only thing that's really real.
Speaker 3: What you're seeing out in the room around you is
Speaker 3: not really real. Only thing that's real is inside of you.
Speaker 3: What's inside of you is projecting outwardly. So that's a
Speaker 3: big conversation, a big quantum conversation, but basically, there is
Speaker 3: a whole experience behind the picture. Now that doesn't help
Speaker 3: you so much. I'm going to tell you what Sirah,
Speaker 3: the Bigfoot that I speak to on a fairly regular basis,
Speaker 3: what she told me about this. She said that people
Speaker 3: who are seeing them are having an experience of third
Speaker 3: eye opening. Now, I don't know if you're familiar with
Speaker 3: that or if you even believe in that, but it
Speaker 3: is a real thing. You do have a penial gland
Speaker 3: inside your head. You do have a third eye. The
Speaker 3: third eye is responsible for your perspectives and your perceptions,
Speaker 3: broadening perceptions. What's happening on the planet right now is
Speaker 3: we are entering into fifth dimensional timelines. We're not there yet,
Speaker 3: but the whole planet is having an experience too. We're
Speaker 3: entering into fifth dimensional timelines and this is causing third
Speaker 3: eyes to open. People are going to become inter dimensional
Speaker 3: over time. I've had this experience where I've seen into
Speaker 3: the fifth dimension, gone back and forth at times. This
Speaker 3: is a real thing. A lot of people are not
Speaker 3: going to want to believe it, but this is really happening.
Speaker 3: We are coming into a place in the galaxy where
Speaker 3: the vibration is higher than we've been used to. We've
Speaker 3: been in these low third dimensional type of experience on
Speaker 3: Earth where it's dark, dense, heavy, sad, miserable kind of existence.
Speaker 3: Third dimension is very heavy. Our solar system and our
Speaker 3: planet have moved into a different part of the galaxy
Speaker 3: where the energy is lighter. You are seeing all kinds
Speaker 3: of things being exposed around the world, All kinds of
Speaker 3: people are getting caught doing terrible things. This is because
Speaker 3: we're in a different dimension now, we're actually in the
Speaker 3: fourth dimension trying to move into the fifth dimension. That
Speaker 3: has a lot to do with it that is causing
Speaker 3: third eye opening. Now, would you like me to tell
Speaker 3: you what Siah told me about all of this. What
Speaker 3: she has told me is that the Sasquatch, and she
Speaker 3: means the people that's what they call themselves, have been
Speaker 3: coming forward and trying to show themselves to people. This
Speaker 3: is why people are finding glyphs and footprints. The whole
Speaker 3: paranormal experience is ramping up. She says. They are actually
Speaker 3: trying to help people open their third eye, meaning change
Speaker 3: their perspectives, open up their minds. There are Sasquatch who
Speaker 3: are actually participating and helping us do this. They don't
Speaker 3: bother with anyone who can't see them. They understand that
Speaker 3: many people will not ever be able to see them
Speaker 3: or perceive them, I guess I should say, but they
Speaker 3: understand that some people are capable of understanding them. What
Speaker 3: I mean is perceiving them, knowing they're there. The impast
Speaker 3: who really hate their existence as far as feeling everybody's
Speaker 3: feelings are the ones who are actually psychics and training.
Speaker 3: Really they perceive things more so they're more capable of
Speaker 3: having this experience. Now when they take a picture, it's
Speaker 3: really easy to get caught up in the idea that, oh,
Speaker 3: there's one, and there's one and there's one. Now. If
Speaker 3: I post a picture in a Facebook group or something,
Speaker 3: I usually look at that picture for a long time
Speaker 3: and decide is that something that's significant or is that
Speaker 3: just something that I know they're there, but I can't
Speaker 3: see them and nobody else is going to see them either.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: I usually try to post a picture in which there's
Speaker 3: a shape or a form that's pretty obvious to see
Speaker 3: I'm not invalidating anybody's pictures or anybody's experience. What I'm
Speaker 3: saying is that sometimes we have to be careful of that.
Speaker 3: I will say that they are out there. A lot
Speaker 3: of those pictures are of bigfoot. You have to learn
Speaker 3: to see them. It's a matter of first believing something
Speaker 3: you don't believe at first. Because that's what I had
Speaker 3: to do to learn to see them. I had a
Speaker 3: friend help me learn how to see them. It's there,
Speaker 3: just keep looking. I would keep looking at the picture
Speaker 3: day after day. Other people would show me things too.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you about Sierra's picture here in a minute.
Speaker 3: Finally I started to learn how to see them. It
Speaker 3: took a lot of doing because other people would be
Speaker 3: looking at this picture and they'd see it. I'd be like,
Speaker 3: I don't see anything. I do not see it, there's
Speaker 3: nothing there. In a case with Sira, when I was
Speaker 3: out at the lake, she was the one who threw
Speaker 3: the branch across the road. This is what I found
Speaker 3: out later. She threw the branch across the road because
Speaker 3: it was extremely dangerous for me to go any further
Speaker 3: into that park area out there. She stopped me when
Speaker 3: I was stopped there and I got out and took
Speaker 3: the pictures. Basically, I posted the picture of the branch
Speaker 3: across the road on Facebook, telling the story of the
Speaker 3: morning that i'd had. One of my friends came on
Speaker 3: and said, can you see it? It's right there. I'm like,
Speaker 3: can I see what he said? There's a bigfoot right there,
Speaker 3: and it's big. It took me several years before I
Speaker 3: could see her in that picture. Now it's completely obvious
Speaker 3: to me, but it took me two years of looking
Speaker 3: at that picture, pulling that picture out every once in
Speaker 3: a while, thinking I'm supposed to see something and I
Speaker 3: don't see it. All of the sudden, it came just
Speaker 3: out of the blue one day, I'm like, oh crap,
Speaker 3: there it is. Really, it's a matter of doing what
Speaker 3: logical people don't want to do, which is to believe
Speaker 3: in something before they see it. If you understand how
Speaker 3: reality works, really, you don't see anything unless you believe
Speaker 3: in it. Nothing comes into your experience unless you believe
Speaker 3: in it. Believe in it on some level, you project
Speaker 3: from inside out the experience that you're gonna have. She
Speaker 3: appeared when I finally gave up trying to see her Basically,
Speaker 3: I gave up the idea that I was supposed to
Speaker 3: see something that looked like an ape in the picture.
Speaker 3: I had already given up on the idea that I
Speaker 3: was going to see a clear picture like Patty. I'd
Speaker 3: given up on that, and it was I think a
Speaker 3: process of me deciding that it wasn't the way I
Speaker 3: wanted it to be. You look at that picture, you
Speaker 3: want it to look like something that you think it
Speaker 3: should look like. I hope I'm making sense. Once you
Speaker 3: let that idea fall away, that's when you'll start having
Speaker 3: an experience. Once you hate to say this, I have
Speaker 3: said it to other people, and people get mad at
Speaker 3: me for saying this. Logic, You've got to throw it away.
Speaker 3: It's only when you throw away the logic that you'll
Speaker 3: start to have the real experience that they will actually
Speaker 3: show you more than you ever imagined. But you've got
Speaker 3: to get over the idea that you need to see
Speaker 3: them like you would see anything else, another person or
Speaker 3: an animal. That's not what you're going to see. You're
Speaker 3: going to see a metaphysical being if you see them
Speaker 3: at all, if you're emplastic at all, you're going to
Speaker 3: feel them before you see them. Am I making myself clear?
Speaker 3: Am I making sense?
Speaker 1: I'm picking up what you're putting down here. But here's
Speaker 1: the thing. I'm literally scratching my head right now because okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead, here's what happens you reference Patty right. It's
Speaker 1: a big thing in the community right now. Just did
Speaker 1: an interview with M. K. Davis and Todd Gatewood. We've
Speaker 1: got another one coming up hopefully here in another couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, where we're examining the images that they've put
Speaker 1: out of Patty, where they've worked on these Some people
Speaker 1: are claiming it's AI, some people are claiming it's upscaling.
Speaker 1: It's a whole thing in the community. Right We're gonna
Speaker 1: try to hopefully dig down and get to the bottom
Speaker 1: of that, because that's what we do here at Sasquatch Hot.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, let's talk about Patty. Because here's the
Speaker 1: thing for me, I am if I had to pick
Speaker 1: a camp, and I don't even like saying that anymore,
Speaker 1: but you'll almost have to come down on one side
Speaker 1: of this or the other in certain ways to keep
Speaker 1: your sanities. I believe if these things exist, they are
Speaker 1: flesh and blood. That's just where I come from having
Speaker 1: conversations like this with people like you. You're calling them a
Speaker 1: metaphysical being. Let's talk a little bit about some of
Speaker 1: those experiences that other people are having, like Roger Patterson
Speaker 1: and Bob Gimlin. If that is not Bob Hieronymous in
Speaker 1: a suit, and it is in fact a Sasquatch walking
Speaker 1: across that sandbar, that is a very physical being. The
Speaker 1: anatomy has been broken down. Doctor Jeff Meldrim's talked about
Speaker 1: the footprints that were found that day, asked the anatomy
Speaker 1: of the muscles, the musculature that people can see. That
Speaker 1: is a very physical thing. I know you weren't there,
Speaker 1: it wasn't your film, But let's talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about that. Given the experiences you've had and the things
Speaker 1: that you're saying that you have gathered from SIRA and
Speaker 1: maybe others that you've spoken to, where does Patty fit
Speaker 1: into this? Because if they're all the same or are
Speaker 1: they different, is Patty a different scenario? Is Patty a
Speaker 1: real sasquatch? The whole nine yards here, because that's a
Speaker 1: very physical thing. It's very difficult for people like me
Speaker 1: who believe that's a real Sasquatch to apply any of
Speaker 1: the things that you're talking about present day right now
Speaker 1: to Patty in particular. Patty has caused a lot of
Speaker 1: problems in Bigfoot for many reasons, for many years. I
Speaker 1: think that's one of the problems that people may have
Speaker 1: that may be even open to having some of the
Speaker 1: experiences or changing their perspective a little bit to possibly
Speaker 1: look at the angle that you're seeing it from. If
Speaker 1: we just talk specifically about Pattia. I know that was
Speaker 1: very long winded, ask a question. Can you apply maybe
Speaker 1: your logic and what you've learned to Patty and talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about that. It may help people like
Speaker 1: me understand a little bit better where you're coming from.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I have so much quote unquote knowledge that
Speaker 3: I go around and circles low. So stop me if
Speaker 3: I'm doing that. Okay, Patty. Now, I've heard rumors, and
Speaker 3: of course nobody knows. Everybody likes to think they know
Speaker 3: stuff about them. I never really claim. All I know
Speaker 3: is the experience that I've had, like all of us.
Speaker 3: But Patty, I've heard that she was unable to cloak
Speaker 3: the Bigfoot out in the wilderness like that in California.
Speaker 3: We're unable to cloak. I have also heard that they
Speaker 3: are all able to cloak. Now we will probably never know.
Speaker 3: All I know is what Sira and the clan here
Speaker 3: told me about that. I think it's pretty significant to
Speaker 3: tell you about this. They said that you've heard of
Speaker 3: the Great Awakening, right, you realize that the planet is
Speaker 3: undergoing an awakening process, right.
Speaker 1: I've definitely heard that.
Speaker 3: Yes, Okay. What they're telling me is that the awakening
Speaker 3: started the day Patty walked down Bluff Creek. She did
Speaker 3: it on purpose. Now, she may not have known she
Speaker 3: was doing it on purpose. She might have just felt
Speaker 3: an impulse to do it. She was actually the instigator
Speaker 3: of the Great Awakening because of what was happening on
Speaker 3: the planet. You ever hear about the Age of Aquarius
Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff, Yes, okay, Now, don't
Speaker 3: get too hung up in the astrological term. It's a
Speaker 3: term for a time period in history. Okay. We're entering
Speaker 3: into the Age of Aquarius, which is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: We are entering into a higher vibrational place in the galaxy.
Speaker 3: This is very important to understand. She said that Patty
Speaker 3: showed herself in that way because no one would have
Speaker 3: ever believed in anything else. She had to show herself
Speaker 3: that way. What I've also been told is if somebody
Speaker 3: sees a flesh and blood bigfoot, it's because they needed
Speaker 3: to see them that way. It's like they show themselves
Speaker 3: in the way that you need to see them if
Speaker 3: you're destined to have that experience. If you read Native Americans,
Speaker 3: they talk about how if you see a bigfoot, that
Speaker 3: means that a spiritual awakening is imminent for you. That
Speaker 3: means that you're about to have an awakening. There's nothing
Speaker 3: that wakes you up quite like a bigfoot encounter. The
Speaker 3: physical being and the metaphysical being are the same being.
Speaker 3: I think they have abilities that other beings do not have.
Speaker 3: This is what's really hard for people to grasp, is
Speaker 3: that something could be flesh and blood and also have
Speaker 3: kind of paranormal aspects to it. I wrote an article
Speaker 3: a long time ago about the questioning whether or not
Speaker 3: they evolved this way to avoid us because we've caused
Speaker 3: them nothing but trouble, historically, killed them, hunted them down.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I also have my personal beliefs
Speaker 3: that they didn't come from here. Humans didn't come from here.
Speaker 3: We came from someplace else. If I think about it
Speaker 3: that way, it doesn't surprise me that they have these abilities.
Speaker 3: But the physical being and the metaphysical being are the same.
Speaker 3: They are the same being. I have beings come into
Speaker 3: my bedroom at night. If they have something stuck to
Speaker 3: their foot, it'll be left on my floor in the morning.
Speaker 3: If that's a physical thing. They leave footprints in my carpet,
Speaker 3: that's a physical thing. Truly, metaphysical beings would they leave footprints?
Speaker 3: I don't know. We don't really know. That's the thing.
Speaker 3: From the experiences that I have had, they are both.
Speaker 3: They're both. That is what we can't wrap our minds around.
Speaker 3: We need to at least open up to the idea
Speaker 3: that there are things that exist around us but we
Speaker 3: didn't know were there. Maybe lots of different things. Help
Speaker 3: me out here, what else do I need to talk about.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the times that you have physically interacted
Speaker 1: with them, Because I'm four hundred plus episodes into the show.
Speaker 1: Outside of a couple of times that people have had
Speaker 1: what they believe to be mind speak incidents or just
Speaker 1: vocalizations or just what seem to be physical things, and
Speaker 1: they don't actually see these creatures. Most of the time,
Speaker 1: everybody in our acts with these things on a very
Speaker 1: physical level, to the point of having things thrown at them,
Speaker 1: things touched things. Simact, it's collecting footprint evidence, hairs. A
Speaker 1: gentleman I talked to just yesterday collected scat from one
Speaker 1: of these things that he saw eating huckleberries. It's a
Speaker 1: very physical thing. So let's talk about something that most
Speaker 1: of the audience can wrap their brain around, which would
Speaker 1: be when you've physically seen them and or interacted with them.
Speaker 1: What has that interaction been like? What have you seen
Speaker 1: as far as a physical description of these things?
Speaker 3: As far as the physical being. I see them at twilight.
Speaker 3: They don't show themselves to me in broad daylight. I
Speaker 3: understand that each clan has their own rules about how
Speaker 3: much they show of themselves. I have seen full physical
Speaker 3: form male bigfoot named Stefano, that's his name. I've seen
Speaker 3: him out here. He's really tall. He's got a twenty
Speaker 3: one inch foot One morning, I was pulling out of
Speaker 3: my driveway. I looked at this big u bush in
Speaker 3: the backyard. There he was just standing right there. He
Speaker 3: turned around and quickly slipped behind the bush. That's about
Speaker 3: his physical like a flesh and blood physical view I've
Speaker 3: had of them. It was a clear bigfoot shape. It's
Speaker 3: not anything I could have gotten a picture of. It
Speaker 3: was too fast. That has been my experience of it.
Speaker 3: I've had that experience quite a few times, just out
Speaker 3: in my yard. They'll just realize I'm pulling out of
Speaker 3: the garage and they'll slip around the bush or slip
Speaker 3: around the tree or something. Had that happen quite a bit.
Speaker 3: I had one of the younger ones in a bush
Speaker 3: out front. She was holding a baby. She held the
Speaker 3: baby over so I could see it. Then she grabbed
Speaker 3: the baby and she jumped under some bushes and hid.
Speaker 3: They have this thing about they like to show their babies.
Speaker 3: They're like the others are just something else. They just
Speaker 3: I go out there, I'm going to take their picture,
Speaker 3: and I say, you guys don't need to be in
Speaker 3: the picture. If you don't want to, all the mothers
Speaker 3: and babies will stay in the picture. Those are the
Speaker 3: kind of pictures you don't like. Those are the kind
Speaker 3: of pictures you don't like. But it's really hard to
Speaker 3: make someone understand that there are things that we can
Speaker 3: never know. We are humans, we have egos. We want
Speaker 3: to know, We want to have this information. We want
Speaker 3: to categorize them, we want to put them in a box.
Speaker 3: What you find when you start having this experience is
Speaker 3: that they don't fit in any box. What they're teaching
Speaker 3: them is that the world is a really different place
Speaker 3: than what we have thought it was. There's been a
Speaker 3: lot of stuff hidden from us in this three dimensional
Speaker 3: world we've been living in. What they're asking us to
Speaker 3: do is to grasp the idea that we're not going
Speaker 3: to find what we're looking for, what we've been looking
Speaker 3: for all these years. We're not going to find that
Speaker 3: I found them when I stopped looking. When I'm I
Speaker 3: let my ego go and I stopped looking. But you
Speaker 3: have to be open to the experience rather than just
Speaker 3: seeing them like people saw Patty. Patty came out to
Speaker 3: show herself to people. Why would the only bigfoot that's
Speaker 3: ever been seen like that come out and walk a
Speaker 3: long distance? What was it, a couple minutes worth of
Speaker 3: film total, where these guys had camera and she just
Speaker 3: sauntered down the riverbed, not really concerned about what was
Speaker 3: going on. When bigfoot don't generally do that. Why would
Speaker 3: she do that? The answer is because from what I
Speaker 3: was told, that was the day she was supposed to
Speaker 3: do that. I've heard that the rest of the clan
Speaker 3: there was mad at her for doing it, but it
Speaker 3: was supposed to happen. That's what I've been told. It
Speaker 3: was the beginning of the frenzy of Bigfoot. It was
Speaker 3: the beginning for me, It was a beginning for a
Speaker 3: lot of people. You just knew there was something more
Speaker 3: to it. It just gave you the idea that there
Speaker 3: was more to this world than what we've been taught.
Speaker 3: There are things out there that we don't know about.
Speaker 3: There are also things that exist in different ways than
Speaker 3: we've been taught. There are metaphysical beings that exist. Now,
Speaker 3: what's one of the first things that starts happening to you?
Speaker 3: When you open your third eye, your perspectives broaden, so
Speaker 3: it makes it easier for you to see things that
Speaker 3: you didn't see before. What is enlightenment. Enlightenment is basically
Speaker 3: starting to see things, bringing things to light. It is
Speaker 3: basically allowing yourself to believe that there's more than what
Speaker 3: we've been taught. I was always one of those kids
Speaker 3: people didn't know anything. I was asking grown ups questions
Speaker 3: about all these kinds of things, and nobody knew anything.
Speaker 3: I'm like, there's got to be more to it than that.
Speaker 3: They were given these basic three dimensional answers to everything,
Speaker 3: trying to be logical about it, and I'm like, logic
Speaker 3: is not helping this. Some of these things that I
Speaker 3: experience are not logical, They're not scientific. Wasn't it Tesla
Speaker 3: that said, if you want to figure out the secrets
Speaker 3: of the universe, No, that was Einstein. If you want
Speaker 3: to know the secrets of the universe, think in terms
Speaker 3: of frequency and vibration. It was Tesla who said, I'm
Speaker 3: not quoting here, but Tesla said that if science wants
Speaker 3: to advance itself, it needs to be looking into non
Speaker 3: physical things, and it'll make more progress in ten years
Speaker 3: than it has in all these hundreds of years. The
Speaker 3: non physical is actually where it's at. I keep saying,
Speaker 3: the WU is not going to go away, because the
Speaker 3: WU is what's real. The WU is actually reality showing itself.
Speaker 3: It's not going away. It's going to get bigger because
Speaker 3: people are starting to get I'm making my clear yes.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you pissed off at least three quarters
Speaker 1: of my audience when you said the WU is where
Speaker 1: it's at.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry because I have to say this. I was
Speaker 3: the logic person in the beginning. I really wanted to
Speaker 3: put this thing in a box. I really was one
Speaker 3: of those people that wanted to prove this was just
Speaker 3: an eight that we hadn't been able to discover. But
Speaker 3: the thing was we got the last ten years, especially
Speaker 3: when I've been in Bigfoot research, We've had so many
Speaker 3: boots on the ground, so many game cams out in
Speaker 3: the woods, and nobody's gotten a friggin thing to speak
Speaker 3: of except a few shadows maybe a partial form of
Speaker 3: all these game camps. I know guys who've got ten
Speaker 3: or twelve game cams out there all the time, never
Speaker 3: get anything, never get a thing. I'm like, there's got
Speaker 3: to be more to this. There's got to be more
Speaker 3: to this that people are missing something.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that a little bit before we close out.
Speaker 1: I want to be respect for your time, but I
Speaker 1: want to talk about the pictures, and I want to
Speaker 1: talk about something I've talked about on here many times.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: I've never excluded anybody's experiences here. Everybody's experiences are theirs.
Speaker 1: I see it to the audience all the time. You
Speaker 1: take what you want, you leave the It is what
Speaker 1: it is. It seems to me. I'll just go out
Speaker 1: on a limb here and say, every time I've talked
Speaker 1: to somebody that has had a habituation, situation or they
Speaker 1: see these things every time they go out, there's big claims, right,
Speaker 1: extraordinary claims. Let's use Sagan here. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Speaker 1: You have to understand from at least most people listening here.
Speaker 1: Plenty of people who listen to this are going to
Speaker 1: write me emails and say, oh my god, she's phenomenal.
Speaker 1: I want to hear more of her story. I want
Speaker 1: to hear more about it. Then I'm gonna get those
Speaker 1: emails that says she is absolutely badshit crazy, Why did
Speaker 1: you have her on the show. There's a polar to everything.
Speaker 1: So I'll say this, here's what happens with these situations.
Speaker 1: Every time I've ever asked anybody, I'll say, just in
Speaker 1: your situation, can you send me two photograph? Can you
Speaker 1: send me one photograph that shows a clear sasquatch? Right,
Speaker 1: Because if you're interacting with them every day and you're
Speaker 1: taking the picture every day that has to exist. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got forty five pictures I'll send you and I'll
Speaker 1: open up inbox the next day. It's just like we
Speaker 1: talked about. It's sticks and trees, leaves or shadows. There's
Speaker 1: nothing ever that's definitive. Maybe you can speak to that
Speaker 1: at least for your own perspective and what you've experienced.
Speaker 1: I understand maybe these things are metaphysical, but if you
Speaker 1: were able to see them and they're able to physically manifest,
Speaker 1: what we see with Patty is not blurry. It depends
Speaker 1: on which part of the film you look at and
Speaker 1: the images, whether you're looking at them today, cleaned up,
Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be. For you, do you
Speaker 1: have that smoking gun or have you been able to
Speaker 1: get close to that smoking gun that although you don't
Speaker 1: need to prove anything, you're not doing this to prove
Speaker 1: anything exist to anybody, which I totally understand. But you
Speaker 1: have to understand the people who want that or would
Speaker 1: love to see that. Have you even come close to
Speaker 1: being able to get a picture of one of these things?
Speaker 1: Just tell everybody to shut the hell up here it
Speaker 1: is into story and stay tuned for more Sasquatch out
Speaker 1: to see. We'll be right back after these messages.
Speaker 5: Now, the short answer is no, because, like I said,
Speaker 5: people have different degrees of perception.
Speaker 3: So I could look at my picture and think that's
Speaker 3: just completely obvious. You can see that right, and you
Speaker 3: would look at it and think that's just sticks and leaves.
Speaker 3: The sticks and leaves do take on a shape, but
Speaker 3: you have to dare I say again, know how to
Speaker 3: see them. I have seen many people, especially within the
Speaker 3: groups that I work in on Facebook, many people who
Speaker 3: look and look and they want to see them, and
Speaker 3: they want to understand, and they're like, please show me,
Speaker 3: and they'll eventually finally get it. Now, when they get it,
Speaker 3: does it prove anything to anybody else?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: Nothing. If people can't see them, they can't see them.
Speaker 3: It's really hard for people to grasp that this is
Speaker 3: a being that is like this. It's not like everything
Speaker 3: else we've ever known. Like I said, there are a
Speaker 3: lot of things on this planet that we haven't known
Speaker 3: about that have been there. You remember the medieval legends
Speaker 3: about lepercar on ferries, trolls and things like that. Where
Speaker 3: did all that stuff come from? Where did those stories
Speaker 3: come from? Did people just make them up out of nowhere,
Speaker 3: or did they actually see something or have some kind
Speaker 3: of experience with them back in the day. You start
Speaker 3: to ask yourself all kinds of questions when you see
Speaker 3: these beings out there and I'm like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: that looks like a troll or that looks like groot
Speaker 3: or something like that, is there really something to all that?
Speaker 3: Did these people historically that have had experiences Okay, you've
Speaker 3: seen old churches with bigfoot faces and the carvings on
Speaker 3: the walls. Did that just I'm out of nowhere?
Speaker 1: And some people argue that it's just people's imagination and
Speaker 1: ways to explain things in the days when they didn't
Speaker 1: have any other explanations. I get that on some level,
Speaker 1: and I certainly understand where you're coming from. But you
Speaker 1: seem at least very open to the conversation. You've had
Speaker 1: a great attitude towards the interview. Obviously, I certainly appreciate that,
Speaker 1: because you have to understand and appreciate where I'm coming from, again,
Speaker 1: where a lot of my audience is coming from. When
Speaker 1: you start to explain an enigma wrapped in a mystery,
Speaker 1: topped with another enigma and say, there's your explanation, You're
Speaker 1: just not going to see it. It's very difficult for
Speaker 1: people to process. It's very hard for me to grasp
Speaker 1: and understand. It is difficult for people who really are
Speaker 1: searching for the answers, particularly with these creatures, to accept
Speaker 1: that as the answer, because they're never going to change
Speaker 1: their opinions.
Speaker 3: If you're looking for those kind of answers, you might
Speaker 3: as well stop because you're not going to get them.
Speaker 3: You're going to keep fine footprints, you're going to keep
Speaker 3: finding broken trees, You're going to keep finding all that evidence.
Speaker 3: But that's as far as they'll go. You will not
Speaker 3: see them in that way unless they want you to
Speaker 3: for some reason. If you keep looking for them in
Speaker 3: that way, you will never find them. If you open
Speaker 3: your mind to other possibilities, they will show you more
Speaker 3: than you can ever imagine. You will have the same
Speaker 3: experience that we all have had. You will not care
Speaker 3: who believes in them anymore. You won't care about it anymore.
Speaker 3: But there are some people who are so rooted in
Speaker 3: logic and science. I say those people don't really believe
Speaker 3: in the paranormal. They believe that everything can be proven
Speaker 3: to be something that we should be able to understand logically.
Speaker 3: But there are some things on this planet that aren't
Speaker 3: like that. This is the lesson. There are some things
Speaker 3: on this planet that we can never fully understand. Bigfoot
Speaker 3: is one of those things. If you keep looking for
Speaker 3: them the way you've been looking for them, you'll find
Speaker 3: all the things you've been finding, like people have been
Speaker 3: finding for many years, the same physical evidence. That's the
Speaker 3: only physical evidence you will ever find. If they don't
Speaker 3: want to be seen, they will not be seen. They're
Speaker 3: trying to teach us something. They're trying to teach us
Speaker 3: that there is more to it than that. They're trying
Speaker 3: to teach us that there's a different perspective. That's the point.
Speaker 3: That's what people are not going to like me saying.
Speaker 3: But we can't prove everything, and we can't know everything
Speaker 3: in detail, and we can't prove everything scientifically. We have
Speaker 3: to learn sometimes that we're just not going to know
Speaker 3: some things. That's really hard for people to accept. Because
Speaker 3: we're human. We want to prove everything. It's a big
Speaker 3: trophy to prove that and get the big money shot
Speaker 3: and all that. It's not going to happen. I can
Speaker 3: tell you you're going to find the same evidence you've
Speaker 3: always found. People are going to have odd experiences like
Speaker 3: they've always had. If they show up like that, they're
Speaker 3: trying to speak to you, they're trying to show you.
Speaker 3: But if you go out and keep doing the same things,
Speaker 3: you're going to get the same things. Basically the definition
Speaker 3: of insanity doing the same thing over and over again
Speaker 3: expecting a different results. Bigfoot research is full of that.
Speaker 3: Once you accept that you're not going to find those things,
Speaker 3: and once you just go out and sit with them,
Speaker 3: they're going to show you some things. They're everywhere. Once
Speaker 3: you realize that they're everywhere, Once you realize that, that's
Speaker 3: when you're going to start having the experience I've said.
Speaker 3: Not a lot of people are going to like one.
Speaker 3: Can I say that? And some people will be fascinated
Speaker 3: by it? This is the old truth of them. You
Speaker 3: can talk about paradolia all day long, and yes, paradolia
Speaker 3: is a real thing. But like I said, there's an
Speaker 3: experience behind the pictures. Most of the people who are
Speaker 3: showing you those pictures are showing them to you because
Speaker 3: there was an experience behind them. It was not physical. Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: Patty did us a great service in showing us they exist,
Speaker 3: but she did a great disservice in showing her physical self.
Speaker 3: And we've been looking ever since and can't find anything
Speaker 3: like that. Quite a conundrum.
Speaker 1: There you have it, folks, there is the conundrum that
Speaker 1: we are all in Duran. I really appreciate you coming
Speaker 1: on the show and sharing your experiences. I have had
Speaker 1: a blast talking to you.
Speaker 3: You're welcome, Thank you.
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