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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Then welcome back to the Gimmick

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here second episode, four, October twenty twenty five. I was

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always in the Canadian Nightmare, and I'm joined by the

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thirty two seventeen cents, David.

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Speaker 2: How's it going today?

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Speaker 3: Other than my bank account looking the same as young Bucks,

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everything is going good because my chief's got a dominant

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win today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she just did really good.

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Speaker 1: So did you see that play where they pretended like

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the fake hike play where he's like, oh, this never works,

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it never works, and they ran it. It was very

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very well done, very clever.

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Speaker 3: I was watching that with my mom and my very

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religious grandmother who had not heard Patrick use that language before.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well there you go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, congratulations on the wain and I'm hoping hoping Packers

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Paul when they're not close game right now, and right

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now we're joined by chat GP Jericho as Bob's I'm

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glad you did some AI because I almost did. But

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I'm like, god, I'll keep it in a Canadian Nightmare.

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But I was thinking of that. But yeah, you ready,

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sir for your He's right around the corner. You know,

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we're getting closer. November what is that November through two

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more months two and a half and Jericho's gonna be back?

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Is he gonna be you know, he might be on

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your draft roster. I didn't even think about that. There's

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a good shot he might be if you get him

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and he gets you the draft points. You should have

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the background behind you and everything like that. Man, that

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was that was a great time. But I'm not sure

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do you ever know did you find out what happened?

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How everyone knew it was Jericho? Also, there's stuff in

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the okay.

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Speaker 4: So I've seen like because when he comes out, like

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the crowd is like everyone has like Jericho's sidnes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so obviously the video did have a lot of stuff.

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If you when you slowed it down, you'd break it

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down and be like it's dates and other like initials

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for opponents.

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Speaker 2: So you could figure out that way if you were

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a nerd.

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Speaker 1: But even if not, I think it was about two

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weeks before because they printed them in a month in advance.

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Speaker 2: WW amazing.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, they had I should bring it up,

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but they had like a cover of Jericho like lighting

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it up and its Tim getting a big plug to

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like a socket and then that everyone knew, oh Man Jerich.

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Speaker 2: Was coming back, and we kind of thought, but still

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that was.

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Speaker 1: Just in And I think magazine kind of spoiled a

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few things, or they would spoil like match types as

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far as I think when Edge and Matt Hardy had

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their like loser these Raw, that was the headline who

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will leave Raw? And the match hadn't even been announced yet,

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and obviously Matt ended up losing to Edge because they

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weren't putting him over that guy. But yeah, so it's

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magazine the you know, spoiling more than Meltzer could.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes they have to write it out like in advance.

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But then also people would get them earlier, right, That's.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, exactly, so that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, no, we'll well, luckily, I guess there's no magazine,

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but I used I used to be a subscriber. I

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used to get it monthly. Came with posters all the time,

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some cool ones too. But yes, lots to talk about today.

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As we mentioned the draft, I'm not sure, I suppose

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do you have the points this time? Okay, so before

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you go offestly, I think the next we decided. We

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haven't decided the episode placements yet, but yeah, that's gonna say.

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I think the next episode, so we will do the

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shake up well, because I think there's a good chance

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we'll be reviewing Survivor series, so we'll probably do one

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before that as well. So I think the next episode, gentlemen,

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get ready that we'll probably be doing some some drops,

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some trades, some pickups, whatever you want to be.

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Speaker 4: I'm dropping like six people.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I think that. I think this is gonna

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be one of our biggest shakeups ever because I think

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there's a lot of we're gonna.

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Speaker 4: Have to next year change when the like shakeups.

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Speaker 1: Are when you're pitched to shaking it up. Obviously this

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year it's slidified.

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Speaker 4: But what do you think I think for next year

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because because the thing is, like there's a long stretch

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like over the summer where we don't have any and

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they like these because then we have like the one

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before Survivor series, and then we have like one before

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the Rumble, which is like only like two months apart.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we think.

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Speaker 4: I think we can keep the Rumble one just for

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for now, even if like we don't change that much stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we'll keep it for now because there'll

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be more rumors yeah, that's the only one because I

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Speaker 4: Have because what we did before us had it before

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money in the bank, but next year money in the

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bank is after SummerSlam.

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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is like the start of the season, then the next

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draft because they haven't announced any other like pls next year,

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I think whatever, like not like Backlash, but like whatever

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goes after Backlash will be like.

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that would make sense. Yeah, we could do because Summer

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so yeah, no, I'm probably down to change it up.

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Speaker 2: Because it is a longer stretch and everything.

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Speaker 1: But this year, I feel like between debuts, lots of injuries,

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which also we will talk about today, lots of changes,

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be There's be a lot going on, so we'll see

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what happens. But yeah, s bubs, uh, what do you

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have right now for the points going on for our draft?

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Speaker 4: All right? Yeah, we're officially in where I have to

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open a second.

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Speaker 2: Page that time of year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because they're on week twenty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're doing that.

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Speaker 1: I think I have the updated I don't know if

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do you have all the names and everything?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I knew okay, maybe because I updated mine June. That

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would have been the last time we did it, right June.

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Speaker 4: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so yeah, to give it well out for

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a long time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I think I got the correct list, but yeah,

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to give her on list, Oh go ahead.

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Speaker 4: Oh I was going to read out the points, but.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, read out the point, read out the points and

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then we'll give a refresher food.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's gote because before we drop them them and everything.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, so I've got six hundred and seventy five points,

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Travis has seven hundred and forty points, and David has

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four hundred and seventy two points.

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Speaker 1: Oh, David need some big shake ups coming up going

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on there.

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Speaker 3: So I've been hurting with some people. Just decided to

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they just work, going to show up to work for

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a while.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because David, you got Cody Rhodes, you got beyonc

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Beyonca hus Vinson, he's shooting on for bet.

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Speaker 2: You got Bianca see him, Punk, Chelsea Green, La Night.

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Speaker 1: Only okay, And you say who we have because I

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thought I had the update once.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who do we go? Who does David them?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, David has, Cody Rhodes, Bianca Villair, Stephanie Vacuer, Chelsea Green,

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l A Knight, Bronson Reed, Tiffany Stratton, Jade Cargill, Finn Balor,

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Mantes Ford and then the jobber is Carmela.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess you could you on paper, you got

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some good ones Green and Bianca, but that is like Green,

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like I know she's been wrestling with just nothing big recently.

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Speaker 2: And Tiffany let but.

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Speaker 1: I mean like no main events, no big like titles,

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like she's always wrestling, but nothing like a big stip,

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money in the bank like that to me, Like she's

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constant point there, but she's not like, oh, every once

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in a while you have that one person gets you

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point where Tiffany she's getting those points. But she's just

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kind of a lot of promos recently too, you know, say,

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same thing with Cody's doing Street Fighter and everything.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, Travis has, Ria, Seth Fron, Charlotte, Jay Becky, Live,

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Speaker 2: Jordan.

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Speaker 4: Why am I Jordan Grace?

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Speaker 2: Oh fuck yeah, that the fact that I first place I.

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Speaker 4: Think was that who screwed you there is like Meltzer.

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Speaker 1: I think it was Melts Melts repw Insider. Yeah, I'm

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never doing that again. I'm never. I get that's tough though,

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because I got points on the rust of One, which

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was the same thing of their coming this week, and

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but yeah, I'm surprised. I'm then still in first with

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Jordan Grace literally just giving me goose eggs. But yeah, sorry, Jordan,

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I'm out of just necessity. I'm gonna be for sure

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dropping her. So if anyone wants her next week or

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next episode Phil three to pick her up, yeah I have.

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Speaker 4: I have John Cena, Guntherr, Penta, Eo Sky, Naomi Punk,

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Julia Ray Phoenix, Roxanne and Nathan Fraser. Oh and so

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loo's my job and that your job is Austin Theory.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, you're lucky.

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Speaker 4: You were lucky. You know this draft is before Survivor series.

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I could have dropped you like a negative twenty.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No, I'm getting rid of him because who

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knows what's going on. I can't even get anything with him.

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goose egg one right now to sign right.

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Speaker 4: Probably gonna keep him because if this tournament thing is

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like real, yeah, that's like that's gonna be like multiple.

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Speaker 2: Do you have seen that right now too?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you get a double main event to the scene.

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Speaker 4: I'm keeping it until then, like I'm just gonna sure. Yeah. Yeah,

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points basically for every PO league.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's worth it.

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Speaker 1: I'll yeah, well, there you go. There's the updated list.

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Wrestl Dream perview. But the reason we'll do that is

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because it's my I don't know. The reason I put

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it first is because this will dictate how long we

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can talk about Wrestl Dream, because we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 2: Whatnot, but yeah, we're gonna talk about that.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about SmackDown because that had some big

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developments and bad and then a bunch of.

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Speaker 2: A little stuff in between. And then yeah, we'll review

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wrestl dreaming, same thing.

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Speaker 1: Talk about a few little uh full gears matches that

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seem to be shaping right now. That the internet I've

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manned the internet, I've seen a lot of people not

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happy about Mercedes and Chris happening, which is like, I.

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Speaker 2: Kind of we'll get there.

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Speaker 1: I kind of get so it's like I was like, oh,

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I understand, but it's like, I guess it is like a, yeah,

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this is kind of a weird thing to do right now.

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Speaker 4: I've seen some certain theories from people who are like

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someone like the biggest Mercedes like fans. I've seen have

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some certain theories about why this is happening.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so say those, save those when we get there.

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let's talk about this is so funny because I don't

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portion right because I feel usually what happens every couple

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gimmick episodes, we start talking about WrestleMania, even the second Mania,

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like episode out for Restumet, You're like, well what about

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next year? Right? But this I can't remember what started,

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but soon was starting when we were talking about oh,

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it seems to be the layout yet to we had

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raw or at least some assessed things. But literally at

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the end, I said, oh, well, you know, of course

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we you know all this can go down, but you

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And man, I'm not it's karma.

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Speaker 2: Is not the right word.

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Speaker 1: What I'm gonna say is it is ironic that supposedly

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now it seems like legitimately that Seth Runs is injured, injured,

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gonna be at least to four to six Yes, today,

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to flipisode that like they're hoping to be back for Manium,

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don't know. We'll see even even if he's healthy. I

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feel like we'll talk about plans. I feel like it

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could be better just to hold him.

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Speaker 4: But I understand you like like show up on rock

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or Mania but not wrestle until backlash, like get it

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on an extra month.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what we're talking about. Where, Okay, what's

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gonna be all the stuff? Who's gonna be an event

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and yeah, in between that. Obviously, a few months ago

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arm somewhere in there.

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Speaker 2: We're going it up.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure some sort of update on Monday. It's gonna

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be a gimmick one too, but still we're gonna get something.

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But yeah, Seth Rollins is actually injured. So here's the thing.

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One completely sucks from an all's perspective because, like people

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point out, I'm not gonna say this guy's the unluckiest

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guy in the world because multiple time Russell Mayman inventor champion,

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married to Becky Lynch, but he does have some really

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bad time in his career with his body. Obviously, in

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twenty fifteen people pointed out that similar time when it happened,

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but now same thing in the middles angle. I will

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say that I'm happy because I was not watching raw,

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but when I got the updates, I'm happy. From uh,

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you know, we hear all these reports of w using

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AI or Triple H missioning three weeks, so you never

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know what's gonna be happening, what's sure, what's not? But

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when I saw the angle of Braun spearing in them

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new in the breakup, I was like, Man, they've really

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this is this was feeling like like I don't know,

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two thousand and nine, no, I'll go a little yeah, no,

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maybe two thousand and nine teen a.

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Speaker 2: Stuff where it's like they're just doing swerves for the sake.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's a swerve bro like Vince Russo or

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like all end of WCW. But that's where I guess

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I'm not happy about it. But as this makes sense

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for a pivot, because when I got the update, I

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was like, man, what are they doing here?

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Speaker 2: Like this doesn't make sense?

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Speaker 1: And a bunch of beeble put up that was the

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plan where it was me Seth and Roman Brawn would

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turn them knife after So I think we can all

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insinuate that Roman would have beat set for that time,

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which we kind of you know, I know people are

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saying all the Sammy's things back on. It's like I

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don't know yet if the Big Dog won the world

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title on Netflix, he still might be getting it right.

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a plan which we kind of all predicted it far

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as you do that program, whether it is Roma set

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and then you do the big RANDI organ thumbs down,

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turn on him, and then bronze the guy. Right, So

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with Seth being injured, this makes sense why they do this.

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It feels like a little contrived, but they give some

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reasons why it made sense. But yeah, s, bubs, what

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do you I'll.

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Speaker 2: Open the floor to you.

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Speaker 1: What is your your cause we're going over several what

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do you I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you what you

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everyone what they want or what they think is gonna happen.

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First onces are different, But do you think is going

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to be the likely from next Monday to WrestleMania. So

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we're going we're going far out with this world title ross,

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you know, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Sort of like, well, the thing I'm thinking is like

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everyone's like, oh, like Bron's just gonna win it right

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away because that's injured. But I don't like because the

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way it's like it's a thing where like if they

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touch the belt before they win it, then they're not

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luck Yeah, I feel like it could be like something

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like I mean, I feel like this the title could

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change hands. I don't know, because it's like I think, honestly,

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Punk is like the number one contender and they did

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that anyway doing the Seth injury, and so I think

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it's probably gonna be maybe they add like Jay Uso

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and l A. Knight in there, but I think Punk

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and Broun in some capacity are gonna be wrestling for

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the title at Suray Night's main event.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah I could. I could see that, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Because Punk's like on the poster and everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that makes that a lot bigger now too.

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Yeah yeah, yeah, I saw just shared him and whatnot.

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And what do you because this is like short term,

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but what do you think they're gonna do? Do you

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think we're still getting war games at Survivor series? Do

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you still think that because I think I've seen a.

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Speaker 4: Lot of people are getting wars or I.

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Speaker 1: Guess I mean like the Men's like the main roster

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or anything that, because I've seen people pitch the like

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the m F T Versus Wyatt six is war games. Like,

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so you think the main squad of like these main

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characters on Raw and a couple other people will be

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still be doing like a Men's war game.

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Speaker 4: I think they probably will. Yeah, okay, what else, as

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like yeah, because I think I think Punk wins it

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like at say Night's main event, but I could see

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him like because I don't because I feel like I

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think he wins it there they do war games, and

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he's probably like in the war games match. So I

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guess you could have you could have the you could

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have the Heels win with like I'm like beating Punk

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in the cage, and then I guess you would do

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that member like maybe like yeah, maybe you do it

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at like like the scene of Saturday an event if

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that's gonna have multiple matches, which I don't know if not,

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if it's only gonna be like a full Scena show,

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I say, maybe do that like on the first raw

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of twenty twenty six. Yeah, okay, because unless you want

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to like save that until the Rumble, I don't really

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think so. I think Punk's probably gonna be like in

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the rumble. So I think if he is the champion,

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he probably drops it by then. And so let's say

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let's just keep going because I'm going with my thing

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of what I think. And so I'll say Ron wins it.

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from Punk, then he's the champ. I guess you could

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have Roman just like win the Rumble and say he's going.

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Speaker 1: I think the big dogs winning. I think he's winning

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the Rumble. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then yeah you think

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that and anything. Yeah. Honestly, now, like before, I was

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always like, I don't know if they're doing that. I

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didn't know if they were doing that, But now with

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these injuries, I could see it being a thing.

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Speaker 2: And it's kind of the same thing with the Seth thing.

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Speaker 1: It's just kind of funny that off I knew they

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weren't gonna do Punk and Rallings to WrestleMania, but obviously

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the big first Punk and Rollings match was gonna be Mania.

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Speaker 2: Punk gets hurt, and now we're building up to like

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the what we all assume would be.

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Speaker 1: The finale for now, right for Punk and rawlins like

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end the chapter closest book for now.

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Speaker 2: But now Seth gets hurt.

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Speaker 1: It's like, no matter what their big their biggest matches

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get messed up, other than the Raw on Netflix one,

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which you know was big, but still not like climactic

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like some of the other ones.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of crazy, but okay, only.

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Speaker 4: One on one matches have been on raw, like they

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had the Netflix one and then the Steel Cage one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're one on one. So Dave, what is

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your what do you think is gonna happen right now

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and before? If we're getting crazy into some pitches, But

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what's what's logistic for Triple H and the AI I lash.

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Speaker 3: I've plotted this out. I've plotted out both a want

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and a.

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Speaker 1: Think, So so say save the want, just do the

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think right now, and then we'll go back around.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the think because the want is

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way out there. The think is that with the fact

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that Braun walked out with the belt and he's holding it,

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he is going to start claiming that he is the champion.

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Punk is going to say, hey, I earned my shot.

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I want my shot.

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Speaker 1: So Bron's gonna do the aw CM Punk real World

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Champion gimmick. He's close.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Adam Pierce is gonna say, Braun, you have not earned

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that championship, but I will give you a chance to

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earn it. But here's the situation, because I don't like

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chaos on my show You versus Punk at Saturday Night's

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main event, winner is the champion. Loser does not get

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to challenge as long as the winner is champion. Fast

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Punk win, Punk Punk wins. Fast Forward to Royal Rumble.

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Broun wins the Royal Rumble. Then he challenges Punk for

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it as a loophole because I'm the Royal Rubble winner,

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I get to challenge whoever I want. I'm coming after

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that time.

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Speaker 2: They first they could do that, I won't put it past.

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Speaker 1: And with all the people there, I think the thing

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I'm more hung up is you're pitching that Punk's gonna

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be champion from November to April.

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Speaker 2: This man's gonna be strung.

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Speaker 1: There's like, there's no way they would.

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Speaker 3: They would do it just to have him lose the

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title at WrestleMania. You know, good and damn well they

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would do it just knowing to pay office him losing

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at WrestleMania.

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Speaker 1: No, I think we're pasted that once he did the

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Saudi show, Tripley, she loves him now like he's he

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did his like Hollywood ritual humiliation thing.

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Speaker 3: No, because Triple Ah still has friends in certain places,

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and Punk is very vocal about those certain places.

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Speaker 1: And they still they still gotta keep their still gotta

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keep him someone happy. AJ signed now you know, full

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time aj Lee, who fucking has been nowhere at all?

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Speaker 2: Whoever reported that too? Full time contract?

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, and hopefully sometime in the interim, AJ wins

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against Becky and then they going in to be the

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face version of what uh Seth and Becky were.

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Speaker 1: See. I think you could.

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Speaker 2: I think you could still do that, but just shorten period.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, joking about AJ. I do actually think she is

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like coming back this week.

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 2: I just remember we talked to a whole episode when

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that like.

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Speaker 4: It well, the thing was like there were photos like

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like she was backstage like the next like two raws,

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and then she wasn't on the show. So then I

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think the week after that they're like, yeah, you can

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just stay stay home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, we'll see. So I gotta ask you

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so honestly, So I suppose his kind of pitch was

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the I think you said, like see him punk to Cody.

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Speaker 2: I'll ask you then, what do you do with Cody at.

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Speaker 1: WrestleMania, Dave? And also where's the Big Dog? Where's Rome Rains?

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Because in your pitch. He's nowhere near the raw title.

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We're getting Cody Roman three.

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Speaker 3: You can still do Cody and Roman three. And that

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one is as simple. That is basically Roman coming back

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and saying, hey, I'm I'm I beat you, you beat me.

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I'm here to finish this off. The big dog is back.

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This is my yard now, no more distraction.

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Speaker 2: He has the whole vest and everything like that.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a good guy. I'm not a bad guy.

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I'm just the guy.

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00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:31,640
Speaker 2: And legiterly too.

470
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 1: Like that's the thing, like this happen was seth and

471
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,519
I'll say this again not to jinx anybody, but like

472
00:20:35,559 --> 00:20:38,799
it is like earlier, like other injuries and stuff could happen,

473
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,799
right like Punk got injured at the Rumble. So that's

474
00:20:40,799 --> 00:20:43,599
the thing where I don't think Roman and Cody three

475
00:20:43,759 --> 00:20:46,960
is impossible. I know A Boo had said that he'd

476
00:20:47,039 --> 00:20:49,319
heard that, Like some people think that match isn't gonna

477
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:50,480
happen because that.

478
00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 2: Both of them don't really want to lose.

479
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,599
Speaker 1: But at a time where if enough injuries happen and

480
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,279
they just go we need a big match, I could see,

481
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,200
like Cody versus Roman is not you.

482
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 4: Know, you're not there if they wanted to do you

483
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,920
do Punk versus Cody versus Roman?

484
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:06,559
Speaker 2: Yeah?

485
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Punk takes the pinfall again. Yeah, and he's

486
00:21:09,759 --> 00:21:11,279
he's kissing the sky again.

487
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 4: But Roan did get pinned this year.

488
00:21:14,839 --> 00:21:17,799
Speaker 1: That's a set though, that's different though Ces's boy, you know.

489
00:21:18,079 --> 00:21:22,359
But yeah, that's the thing where I I don't, I don't.

490
00:21:22,599 --> 00:21:24,359
I would not pizza bet and I would put that

491
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,559
in the lower percentage of big match that was happening.

492
00:21:26,559 --> 00:21:28,640
But I don't think it's impossible for Cody and Roman

493
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,160
to happen because of all the stuff that goes down.

494
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,400
So with me with my want, I think I'm or

495
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,559
sorry with the think I it's just a question like

496
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,680
for I'm just locked on the Punk thing because I'm

497
00:21:41,759 --> 00:21:43,240
kind of s pubs of like, do we just have

498
00:21:43,319 --> 00:21:45,160
Braun win it right away? And you could, right because

499
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,440
I've seen people pitch like the bron and it's not

500
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,599
even as bad as brock Leser because brock Lesner was

501
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,160
in the company for six months when the title. But

502
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,640
do you just strap Braun up and get him to

503
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,319
go to the rocket right away? Or do you kind

504
00:21:55,319 --> 00:21:58,200
of wait for a bigger moment. But I I think

505
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,480
I'm gonna lean to that Punk is the contender. And

506
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,359
I think I'm kind of a hybrid of these two

507
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,400
where I think they're gonna do. I find it weird

508
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,160
if Jay and Elle and I are back in there,

509
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,920
it's like you guys lost their contentent ship. They could

510
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,440
do that, but it's like you guys lost, you don't

511
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,519
get a shot right now. For me, I think it's

512
00:22:13,519 --> 00:22:15,359
gonna be Yeah, I think it's gonna be similar.

513
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, well exactly.

514
00:22:16,759 --> 00:22:18,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think it's gonna say what David Simmer's

515
00:22:18,839 --> 00:22:21,279
maybe they'll have Braun also win a match too. Maybe

516
00:22:21,319 --> 00:22:24,160
they'll have like he'll say, hey, you're gonna maybe they'll

517
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,160
say l A Knight and Jay get like a second chance.

518
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,480
But in that triple threat also does Braun Breaker, and

519
00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:34,200
you set that up there, and I think I'm gonna

520
00:22:34,279 --> 00:22:37,319
lead to they do just strap up Braun because my

521
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,519
thing is that either you can do Braun and Roman

522
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,279
easily Spear versus Spear, you know, bron Breaker, big Dog,

523
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,400
all that stuff, right, you got the Paul Hayman lore,

524
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,480
you tie and stuff with Jay usso, but also for

525
00:22:48,599 --> 00:22:51,640
cirt whatever reason, if Meltzer is correct, which you know,

526
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,200
you never know every Scooper is not one hundred percent,

527
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,880
but there's some stuff he's right on. If and al see,

528
00:22:57,079 --> 00:22:58,920
I believe this that they're gonna they help have him

529
00:22:58,960 --> 00:22:59,640
back for Mania.

530
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:00,880
Speaker 2: I think there's.

531
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 1: Always a chance people pitch. I don't think it's gonna happen,

532
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,599
but people pitch the whole you know, freak scene a

533
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,799
comeback right, Like, don't get me wrong, I'm actually.

534
00:23:08,519 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 4: Are you doing like no, you know what like Roman

535
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,319
War Chamber or Roman went to the rumble, they're doing

536
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:20,279
like the the contract signing. Saith comes out the contract.

537
00:23:19,759 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 2: Too, Yeah, the ben Wall, the ben Wall Michael, Yeah again. Yeah,

538
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,799
we've talked about before about.

539
00:23:24,559 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 4: That last year too with the with Rio where she

540
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,799
like lost the EEO and like didn't win like the

541
00:23:30,319 --> 00:23:33,000
Chamber or anything, but she just went out and signed

542
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:33,480
the contract.

543
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: That's where when you said the David's loophole thing couldn't happens, Like, no,

544
00:23:36,759 --> 00:23:39,279
it could because there's no like you.

545
00:23:39,319 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 4: Were just looking at this different because it's like like

546
00:23:42,079 --> 00:23:45,519
taking because David's thing was like like the stipulation was

547
00:23:45,599 --> 00:23:47,680
like if bron loses, he can never challenge for that

548
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,920
title as long as like Punk is holding it.

549
00:23:50,079 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like it all takes that Rumble contract to say,

550
00:23:53,839 --> 00:23:56,680
and this voids all other stipulation like they can make

551
00:23:56,759 --> 00:23:59,079
up whatever dumb ship they want to be, like you're

552
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:00,480
you're in it, So I it's.

553
00:24:00,319 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 3: It's literally, Hey, this world Rumble contract says I can

554
00:24:03,519 --> 00:24:07,160
challenge for any championship. I choose that much.

555
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 4: I believe in general, I don't think they do like

556
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,160
the he can't challenge because Brona hasn't even challenged like

557
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,119
at all for it.

558
00:24:14,319 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 2: So that's true that you know that could be, but it.

559
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,519
Speaker 3: Would at least keep them away from the Okay, you

560
00:24:20,599 --> 00:24:23,400
have this now they immediately have to challenge at the

561
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,240
World War or they immediately have to challenge at the

562
00:24:26,319 --> 00:24:28,480
scene of pay per view or something like that. It

563
00:24:28,559 --> 00:24:32,079
takes off the table of the immediate we're going to

564
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,400
run this back. You put some space he can punk

565
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,319
and go back to l A night because they've had

566
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:38,640
that little back and forth of.

567
00:24:38,759 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 1: You'll never be the type of.

568
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 3: Deal you know, yet you got options there.

569
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, And honestly, I guess I'll wait till I'll

570
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,440
say this because I'll forget about it. Not to be mean,

571
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,319
because like I'll forget about l A Knight. To me,

572
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,599
this would be the time we've said it before. I'm like,

573
00:24:56,599 --> 00:24:58,319
when they're gonna put the tone La Night, I've said

574
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,359
it before where it's like that's when he gets the title.

575
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,119
When it's like, shit, someone's injured. What do we do

576
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,920
to me, Punk's already over Give it to La Knight

577
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,920
for one month run. Just give it to him even

578
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,319
if Bronz squashes No, don't squash them. But I mean,

579
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,839
like at like rumble, let's say our war games. Let's

580
00:25:11,839 --> 00:25:13,960
say La and A wins, it leads a wargame, Elle

581
00:25:14,039 --> 00:25:16,440
Knight loses for his team and that sets a norm

582
00:25:16,519 --> 00:25:17,200
contender boom.

583
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 2: Like, to me, this is the time.

584
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,839
Speaker 1: Give it a test, give it the edge, three week run,

585
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,640
see what he does, see reaction, sees merch because then

586
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,240
if it doesn't work, then you go, well we never

587
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,920
got to do that again, Like it's not some big lineage.

588
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,799
Oh well we better not give it to La It's

589
00:25:29,799 --> 00:25:32,279
like fucking Jack Swagger's held this title, you know, and

590
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,480
Ella Knight has way more business than Jack Swigger ever

591
00:25:35,559 --> 00:25:37,920
did holding that title, right, So for me, like I

592
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,200
guess I'm dipping into my my want because like I'm

593
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,000
not even a massive Ellie Knight fan, but it's like

594
00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:44,680
this is the perfect proven ground he's hurt. Give it

595
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,880
to him and it sets up the story too. Ellie

596
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,519
Knight was there for the Seth injury angle. This would

597
00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:51,640
be a good payback for him, but now he's just

598
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:52,559
gonna keep losing.

599
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,039
Speaker 4: So I what might they actually didn't take the pin

600
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,359
in the j Punk match, like the triple threat.

601
00:25:58,599 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I just mean like and we're like

602
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,960
the like Braun will win it and then all Knight's

603
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:03,920
gonna challenge him.

604
00:26:04,079 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 4: That gives you in terms of like you could get

605
00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:08,759
him in there.

606
00:26:09,279 --> 00:26:11,519
Speaker 2: That's true, So so oh go ahead, dude.

607
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,599
Speaker 3: I heard an interesting point about l A Knight where

608
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,920
someone else compared him to Caine, saying that he's that

609
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,880
guy who you don't see winning the title. He could

610
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,759
lose a bunch of matches, but then if people get

611
00:26:21,759 --> 00:26:24,559
injured and he's in a big match and wins the title,

612
00:26:24,599 --> 00:26:26,480
it's just like okay.

613
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,759
Speaker 1: But now at that time that like, so that's that's

614
00:26:29,799 --> 00:26:32,039
the thing. Where so for me I think is I

615
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,240
think they're just gonna bron win it. Punk will get

616
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,240
close and get screwed. Maybe that's where we'll get a

617
00:26:36,279 --> 00:26:38,359
new Vision member where Broun wont to bring one of

618
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,000
his own guys, which I don't think Austin theory fits

619
00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:47,759
that at all. Yeah, Like to me, yeah, like you're

620
00:26:47,759 --> 00:26:49,559
just saying that to me, like fits from yeah the

621
00:26:49,559 --> 00:26:52,440
theory one. Just I don't see fear now that Seth's

622
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,519
gone the bronze together. That's a different type of faction

623
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,440
with SEF. I could see Austin in the past and

624
00:26:58,519 --> 00:26:59,200
make all this stuff.

625
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 4: To me, it does those big media men, and then well.

626
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: That's what I want. Yeah, the big big media man

627
00:27:04,599 --> 00:27:06,960
get a big ee to be a heel manager with him.

628
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,359
But to me, Tony like he's not like big meaty guy,

629
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,960
but he just fits more than Austin does. But I

630
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,000
think Brown wins it, and I think barring injury, he

631
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,759
held he holds it to Mania because what they can

632
00:27:17,799 --> 00:27:19,880
do is they can give him Roman or what we're

633
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,240
up tumbled before we went off, is if Seth wins

634
00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:26,759
Seth or Seth come back, that's an easy WrestleMania match, Right.

635
00:27:27,079 --> 00:27:30,079
I really have no interest in Babyface Seth wrong. So

636
00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:32,079
I think that's the worst thing about this injury is

637
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,000
that everyone was ready for heel Seth. I don't think

638
00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:37,759
the vision was like perfectly handled, but it was at

639
00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:40,680
least in a way where it was a consistence to

640
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,799
his character. They made him a little goofy and he

641
00:27:42,839 --> 00:27:45,400
got a little too heeling, but still it was something

642
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,559
different and it worked for the context of WrestleMania and

643
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,160
last year with Paul Hayman all that stuff. And it

644
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,440
does feel just kind of because the injury that's fine,

645
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,640
but the him being hell. I hope that when he

646
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,720
comes back he is like, do this as a tweeter,

647
00:27:59,759 --> 00:28:01,400
but then kind of get back to healed right away.

648
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,799
But you can't really run a faction because like he

649
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,400
has now been in four factions, I think he's two

650
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,599
for two. Authority and Shield obviously worked very well. This

651
00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:14,039
you know, you can't really this doesn't count. He got injured.

652
00:28:14,079 --> 00:28:15,759
The other one did not work as well, so it's

653
00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:17,799
like you can't put him on the stables. So Seth's

654
00:28:17,839 --> 00:28:20,319
just kind of when he comes back, he's kind of stuck.

655
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,079
Which that's like he's just in this weird limbo of

656
00:28:23,519 --> 00:28:25,240
what do you do. It's not like the first time

657
00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:27,839
when he got injured as a heel. He came back,

658
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,240
but it was all the authorities screwed him over with

659
00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:32,480
Kevin Owens and all this, like you could and he

660
00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:34,279
was there was that great video of when he was

661
00:28:34,319 --> 00:28:36,640
all gassed up and he was high on the drugs

662
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,599
that I'm gonna come back, I'm gonna be world champ.

663
00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:41,160
Like there's all the sympathy for him. There's just no

664
00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:44,440
sympathy right now for the seph Rons character currently, right,

665
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,400
it's just like, yeah, so they have a very tough

666
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,799
time and sas a smart guy, so I hope hopefully

667
00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:51,519
he can figure it out.

668
00:28:51,559 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: I just actually have no interest match.

669
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,799
Speaker 1: Why sure, Seth and Brown will be great, but that

670
00:28:56,039 --> 00:28:59,680
story of him and Braughn at WrestleMania, like, I guess

671
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,279
to me, that's just not going on last. Then I

672
00:29:01,319 --> 00:29:03,359
think something else is going on last, because it's.

673
00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:05,119
Speaker 4: Just I feel like and the problem that's how.

674
00:29:08,839 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: Sethieo or Tiffany and Bionca, like one of those women's

675
00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:14,000
match can step up. I just think it's the case

676
00:29:14,039 --> 00:29:17,200
of the problem for Seth is bron Breaker is kind

677
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,000
of a cool heel.

678
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: That's the thing.

679
00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: That's the only way I would try, even though he

680
00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:24,079
turned on him, and then have Braun as a heel.

681
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,119
That's the only way I would try to make it work.

682
00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:29,920
Is like, imagine if while this is running, Braun gets

683
00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:32,480
very baby facing, and when Seth comes back, he does

684
00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:35,240
turn the whole vision onto Braun because it's kind of

685
00:29:35,319 --> 00:29:37,319
like they don't believe in Braun or they don't you know,

686
00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:39,559
he's too big, the Batista thing is too big for

687
00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:42,640
more Randy Orton, like that's the I would prefer them

688
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,240
to try to do that, because I just don't I

689
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,799
think at WrestleMania, I can see people still behind Braun,

690
00:29:46,839 --> 00:29:49,319
so it's just I I really don't know. But my

691
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,920
think is that it's you know, like I said, it's

692
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,079
gonna be Braun and Roman, maybe a triple threat, maybe

693
00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:58,519
Braun and Seth. If Seth is good to go, So

694
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,720
my want I have two and now I'll go I do.

695
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,920
I would actually so Ela Knight's one. I actually would

696
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,480
like Punk to get like a month or two run.

697
00:30:05,519 --> 00:30:07,480
I think that'd be fun. I think that I think

698
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,920
he's proved, even his body has proved he could do that,

699
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,519
So I would like that. Well, my my whole time want,

700
00:30:13,519 --> 00:30:16,599
which would not happen. I would want what David's pitching.

701
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,279
But We're a little different where Punk does hold it

702
00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:21,799
till April, but the big Dog wins the rumble and

703
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,480
we got Punk and Rowing.

704
00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: One on one.

705
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: To me, that is a super intriguing match, Punk versus

706
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:31,680
Roman one on one. Punk is the chance like that, No,

707
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,640
Paul Hayman, so they can just spark like that to

708
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,519
me is so intriguing that I bet they won't do it.

709
00:30:37,839 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: So my other wild pitch, I pitch is in the discord.

710
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: I would love it, and they would never do it

711
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,200
because it would get him to eighteen. But I would

712
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,720
say that they do like just a either scramble, a

713
00:30:49,759 --> 00:30:53,079
gauntlet something and on that one of those matches at

714
00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:55,559
Saturday Night's main event is or sorry, Survivor series, you

715
00:30:55,599 --> 00:30:57,920
just let yeah, you let the Whitts have their war game.

716
00:30:58,039 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: That's it.

717
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: You have the women have the big event one but

718
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,680
it is like a term or something, and it comes

719
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,920
down to four and Scena is in that match, and

720
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:07,839
Sina wins the title. He gets to be the world champ.

721
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,960
Because I know we've talked about him beating Dom, which

722
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,559
could be good, but for.

723
00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:14,359
Speaker 4: Me, I'll say with with Dom and like the Gunther

724
00:31:14,519 --> 00:31:17,279
of it, it's weird because it's like, what I think

725
00:31:17,319 --> 00:31:20,039
they're gonna do is like he beats Dom and then

726
00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:25,519
Goot beats him like for the title. But really the

727
00:31:25,599 --> 00:31:28,039
way it should be in my opinion, would be like

728
00:31:28,559 --> 00:31:32,400
he loses to Dom like through like some cheating type way,

729
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,400
and then like he would beat Gunther in his last match.

730
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: You you still think Guther's taking the l there, I

731
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,359
think I don't think.

732
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 4: No, I said, I think like, I think what they're

733
00:31:43,759 --> 00:31:45,680
gonna do is like have him beat Dom and then

734
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,680
Goother beats him like for the ICY title. But then

735
00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:52,200
oh yeah, I think it's more. I think it helps

736
00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:56,720
Dom more to beat Sena then it would hurt Goomther

737
00:31:57,119 --> 00:31:58,680
losing this Sena.

738
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. I just I just don't like this

739
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,839
an era of Guther getting back into the ICY to

740
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,960
I guess it's like what we've talked about before, where

741
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,720
it's a Gizzy an the world title at the same time,

742
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,599
I don't know if he would win. But for me,

743
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,319
another intriguing match at wrestled mean is Guther and Cody

744
00:32:13,359 --> 00:32:15,839
because they've only done that once, that that Great Rumble,

745
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,160
and to me, you could Guther hasn't won a Rumble,

746
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:23,240
so he could easily win that and you could final yeah.

747
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,559
Speaker 4: See because there's like the one where Cody came back

748
00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:28,160
and they did like like twenty minutes at the end

749
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,000
of the rumble, and then the next year's rumble, Gunther

750
00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:35,400
was top three years it was him, Punk and Cody

751
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,480
were the last three.

752
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,799
Speaker 1: So that and and that's the thing to me, Like

753
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,799
Guther was like, I don't know, maybe it could happen.

754
00:32:41,839 --> 00:32:43,920
I guess Cody versus Randy. I just like we all know,

755
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:46,680
like Randy's looking up the lights, but maybe not. Maybe

756
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,640
we'll see what happens. Yeah, and that's maybe not. Yeah,

757
00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:53,599
So and that's the thing. We'll see what happens with

758
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,599
and for some Reasoneah, I guess with Punk twos that's.

759
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 4: The thing though, just I guess that's we're already doing

760
00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:02,480
the like with the with the World Heavyweight title. We

761
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,400
could do the same thing of like what do you

762
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,279
see like from here to Mania for like each of

763
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,000
the titles, like let's go to codey now, oh some.

764
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,319
Speaker 1: Bad chatchy Bee booking that like Drew Jack and Drew

765
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,960
McIntyre said on Twitter there like I just.

766
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,319
Speaker 4: See the fight full report about the chat GVT stuff

767
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,480
there said Meltzer said it to It's like yeah, people

768
00:33:23,759 --> 00:33:26,799
people misinterpret what I said and fight bols like it's

769
00:33:26,839 --> 00:33:30,440
not like yeah, basically what he said is that it's

770
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,200
not being used to write storylines or anything or said,

771
00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:37,319
it's basically just used for like they have all the

772
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:40,079
stuff in like a database and the writers ask it

773
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,599
like how many times have we done this match before?

774
00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:46,759
When's the last time these people wrestled? Yeah, you know,

775
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,680
but yeah, apparently Meltzer like Meltzer, what he just said

776
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,519
was like yeah, like they're using AI and the creative

777
00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:58,039
Department and then people like, yeah storylines.

778
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that And that's one thing I will say

779
00:33:59,759 --> 00:34:02,960
Lee setting on the were talking about the SmackDown and

780
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,119
Cody's stuff and all that stuff, is they have so.

781
00:34:05,119 --> 00:34:06,039
Speaker 2: Many top guys.

782
00:34:06,039 --> 00:34:08,199
Speaker 1: That's where we did pitch, like you can do Cody

783
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:10,800
and Randy, Cody and good Cody and Punk. And that's

784
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,199
what I'll say before we go to Cody, and I

785
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,159
guess the ties with Punk is to me, if Punk

786
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:18,280
and Cody is the plan, then I think Punk does

787
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,199
not win this title at all, because you have to

788
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,599
make it that if Punk versus Cody has to be

789
00:34:22,599 --> 00:34:24,000
like oh, this is the first time Punk would win

790
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:26,039
the title and have like a run, even if it's

791
00:34:26,039 --> 00:34:28,119
a month. But if he's already won the world title

792
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:30,280
for even a couple of weeks, I think that's like, oh,

793
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,239
Cody's just gonna beat him, unless it's like Punk healing up.

794
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,880
But like multiple people have said that, like it sounds

795
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,239
like Punk's not turning heel anytime soon, just for like

796
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,400
ticket sales and merch. It's like they don't want to

797
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,280
cut that off until it's done right. I don't think

798
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,440
people are done with Punk. I think people like that character.

799
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,639
I think there's still more stuff they can do with

800
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,400
him and AJ his babyfaces.

801
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, so yeah.

802
00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:53,559
Speaker 3: As the biggest part of that, I think AJ is

803
00:34:53,559 --> 00:34:55,360
the biggest part of him not turning.

804
00:34:55,079 --> 00:34:59,119
Speaker 4: Heel thinking too, because it's like, if.

805
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,559
Speaker 3: You're bringing her back and doing everything with that, then

806
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,159
you don't want to turn him. He'll just yet if

807
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,119
you're gonna turn, if you're gonna do the He'll turn,

808
00:35:06,159 --> 00:35:08,440
it needs to be natural for one of them and

809
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,800
then brings over the other instead of just him going hell.

810
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,079
While she's still getting super pops and things like that,

811
00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:19,320
she's talking about how you guys helped, you know, with

812
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,320
my anxiety, and you guys helped with my mental health

813
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,239
and coming back has been really good for me. And

814
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,199
then all of a sudden, she turns hill. It just

815
00:35:26,519 --> 00:35:28,719
it that duality just does not.

816
00:35:29,039 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 4: Like that Becky and Seth both being heels was working

817
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,079
really well, yes, and like when they when well, I mean,

818
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:40,559
there wasn't really a point recently where like I'm trying

819
00:35:40,599 --> 00:35:42,920
to think we're like, no, they were. They were both

820
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,920
feels pretty much the same time, like since they've come back,

821
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,119
because Becky turned heel on the roth Ermania and Seth

822
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:50,800
was too.

823
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:51,639
Speaker 2: Two days before.

824
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So I was.

825
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 4: Trying to think like if there was a time where

826
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,440
they overlapped like Rana's button. No, it wasn't.

827
00:35:57,599 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I just think there's more like there, like

828
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,400
I can't name off the top of my head.

829
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: I feel we've talked about.

830
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: There's just more like multi person matches they can do,

831
00:36:05,039 --> 00:36:08,159
like the mixed tags like other couples, other factions and stuff,

832
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,519
you know, whether it's anything with Rock Sanne or Roquel

833
00:36:11,639 --> 00:36:14,079
or other people that like there's another one. I thought, oh,

834
00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:17,239
like uh oh, yeah, I guess we talk about dom.

835
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's other.

836
00:36:18,119 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't write Dom and Rock same versus a

837
00:36:20,559 --> 00:36:22,360
Jam Punk and start setting that up because it's the

838
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,800
icy title program and everything.

839
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,159
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think for SmackDown.

840
00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just I've still just never I guess I've

841
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,039
been on board that they're doing Cody and Punk.

842
00:36:35,079 --> 00:36:35,639
Speaker 2: I don't know why.

843
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,679
Speaker 1: I just I don't feel like they're going that way yet.

844
00:36:37,679 --> 00:36:39,440
So I think I'm boring where I just think this

845
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,639
whole story is still gonna lead to Randy and Cody,

846
00:36:42,679 --> 00:36:46,280
whether it's a Chamber win, whether it's Randy. The story

847
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,840
I would like is Cody or Randy get the title

848
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,199
and then Cody chasing.

849
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

850
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 4: I think I still think we're getting like at some point,

851
00:36:54,519 --> 00:36:58,159
like a Cody Drew Randy like triple threat match. I

852
00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:01,840
don't know that'd be good Survivor Series or something. I

853
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,000
mean because like I said, like like Drew needs to

854
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,719
win this silent at this.

855
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,159
Speaker 2: Point, yes he does. Yeah, Like I think.

856
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 4: Like the ideal thing for me with that would be

857
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,719
like Drew winning at like suren Night's main event. You do,

858
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,679
like a triple threat at Survivor Series with like Randy,

859
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,719
Drew and Cody, where like I don't know, probably like

860
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:31,920
Drew pins Randy or something, and like Drew retains and

861
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,280
then you put the title back on Cody out the

862
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:34,800
room bowl.

863
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah I could see that.

864
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, David, do you have anything for smack Down

865
00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:44,079
what you're feeling right now? As far as anything, I guess,

866
00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:46,360
So I guess, And my thoughts is, I don't know

867
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:46,960
we're getting there.

868
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:47,559
Speaker 2: I just think it.

869
00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: Does go with Cody and Randy eve though I don't

870
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,920
know if that's the biggest Mania match now, just with

871
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,840
the way they book Randy in my opinion, they could

872
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,360
change that and heat him up obviously, but like just

873
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,960
right now, I just feel like he's just like a

874
00:37:58,119 --> 00:38:01,639
very just it feels like anytime Sean Michael's got a

875
00:38:01,679 --> 00:38:04,639
title shot in the two thousand and five to like

876
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,000
return era, where just like he's always a vowed contender.

877
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,679
Speaker 2: But he knew he wasn't being anybody for that title.

878
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: So I just feel like Randy to me, sometime other

879
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,079
than a month or two, like, I just feel like

880
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:17,599
Cody would be in at WrestleMania. Cody also just lost

881
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:19,000
to Wrestlemingia Sena, So.

882
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,519
Speaker 3: Other than Drew or Roman, I don't see any WrestleMania

883
00:38:24,559 --> 00:38:27,920
opponent right now for Cody, that seems a viable option.

884
00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:30,960
And if you're gonna put someone up against your quote

885
00:38:31,039 --> 00:38:36,440
unquote QB one, your your guy at WrestleMania, it can't

886
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,480
be somebody who we think ninety percent chance they're taking

887
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,360
the loss. I see Randy Moore as a Rumble opponent

888
00:38:45,519 --> 00:38:47,599
or you know, one of those other like a big

889
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:50,760
pay per view, but not the big pay per view. Yeah,

890
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,639
and so they run that there they have their match.

891
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,039
But no, right now, I still see Drew or Roman

892
00:38:57,199 --> 00:39:00,920
as the big opponent on that big this stage, unless

893
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,000
they just take this time over the next couple of

894
00:39:03,039 --> 00:39:07,679
months to do the a w lore.

895
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,679
Speaker 4: You do the opposite with Jericho.

896
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, if that happens.

897
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 3: If that happens, If that happens, I am putting you

898
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,239
on the Jericho cruise, and I'm giving that thing a

899
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,000
Viking's funeral. How dare you bring that?

900
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 4: I haven't pizza that loaded. I'm not gonna say what

901
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,880
it is yet, but like, if he comes back at

902
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,599
the Rumble, I have a pizza vet loaded that I'm

903
00:39:34,639 --> 00:39:36,480
like extremely confident this.

904
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,079
Speaker 2: Man is gonna tell us he has a ticket to

905
00:39:38,079 --> 00:39:38,960
the Jericho cruise.

906
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 4: Luckily it's setting off from from Miami.

907
00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 2: Well there you go.

908
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: Oh there's a point there that I was gonna say.

909
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,000
But yeah, and that's the all right when you're talking

910
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,800
about Randy and Cody. The other thing is too, I

911
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,079
could see if, like if they.

912
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 2: Do Randy and Cody WrestleMania. I think we've told this before.

913
00:39:57,119 --> 00:39:58,639
Speaker 1: That to me is always like that could be the

914
00:39:58,639 --> 00:40:01,079
hot opener wrestling, right, that could be finally a year

915
00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:03,960
where Cody doesn't main event wrestling because he not finally,

916
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,880
but like he has since thirty nine, right, that's three

917
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:07,519
years in a row.

918
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:10,159
Speaker 2: Now they could say, hey, this year that says someone

919
00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:14,239
else oh a lot, yeah, a lot. And to me,

920
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,679
like and tonzos were not valid, you.

921
00:40:16,599 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: Know he said, yeah he did for if you're count

922
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,400
of the Night once he has every time, right with

923
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,840
the triple threat. And then also sure the two years

924
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,000
before Cody, but like two of those brock Lesser ones

925
00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:29,000
were a waste.

926
00:40:29,079 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 4: You know.

927
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: There's a couple other times too where it's like he

928
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,880
should not have been the main So they could just

929
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,639
want to do that and rack those up.

930
00:40:34,639 --> 00:40:37,679
Speaker 2: And that's where I will say too, It's like I will.

931
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,039
Speaker 1: Have to judge just when we get back to WrestleMania

932
00:40:40,039 --> 00:40:42,679
and see the story was and because we talked around it,

933
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,920
but super lamanding.

934
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 2: I've not watched SmackDown at all.

935
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: Like SmackDown, I would always kind of be if he

936
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,400
in and out before WrestleMania and then some or sometime

937
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,400
I not watch SmackDown at all.

938
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,559
Speaker 2: I still watch a full raw. I've watched segments of it.

939
00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:00,519
Speaker 1: If I know something BIG's gonna happen, I'll tune in, right,

940
00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:03,400
I watched for aj Lee stuff, But then so SmackDown

941
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:04,880
last week I find.

942
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 4: Has only gotten like i'd say, like the last probably

943
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,840
like since the A J Lee return show has definitely

944
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,000
been like improving.

945
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:14,039
Speaker 2: That's like the.

946
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 4: Bar is still very low, yeah, as of like the

947
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,440
low lows of SmackDown.

948
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: And I guess to me, if it's a case where

949
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,119
Drew's not winning the title at all from now until Mania,

950
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,559
then I understand that, okay, Drew, Like Drew's not gonna

951
00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:30,039
win it here, but just for some excitement, like you

952
00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:32,719
already did the Cody loss his first title.

953
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 2: He's not holding it for three years, so you can

954
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:35,960
rack up his.

955
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,199
Speaker 1: Win so and even then like figure something else out

956
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,320
the fact that it was just like a DQ with

957
00:41:40,599 --> 00:41:42,639
Cody DQ me. Also, this kind of looks like a

958
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,199
I know, like laying babyface me where he's that throws

959
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,079
the challenge. Let's get the people what they want. I

960
00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:50,159
know they're trying to say, he got so angry, got

961
00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:51,679
worked up, he hit you the bet, but just like

962
00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:53,639
it feel like I'm gonna challenge you and they're like,

963
00:41:53,639 --> 00:41:55,679
oh shit, I might lose. That feels more like a

964
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:56,679
heel thing that he did.

965
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 3: Now.

966
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,199
Speaker 2: I don't think they're actually going that.

967
00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: Way with Cody anytime soon, but just it was a

968
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:04,039
very awkward finish, and so to me, if Drew does

969
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:07,039
win the title at any point from now Mania, I'll go,

970
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:08,880
you know what, you should have just called.

971
00:42:08,679 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 2: An audible and did it that night like it was there.

972
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: Could have created a big moment, something really like, oh wow,

973
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:14,800
that's why you gotta watch smack Down.

974
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: But it just again, this year has been really bad with.

975
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,599
Speaker 1: The DQ finishes, especially i'd say since WrestleMania and the

976
00:42:21,639 --> 00:42:23,440
fact that they did that again. I guess we're gonna

977
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,039
get Drew and Cody, but I think I think that

978
00:42:26,159 --> 00:42:28,400
just means Drew's taking another loss.

979
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: We could get that triple threat.

980
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,639
Speaker 1: But I just think if they didn't shrap him here,

981
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,840
I think Drew's goner, I guess, and I don't know.

982
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,320
Maybe he'll verst Damian Priest again at WrestleMania.

983
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, that also in this.

984
00:42:42,039 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 2: The world title picture for SmackDown, And was there any

985
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,000
other want? Was there any other?

986
00:42:47,079 --> 00:42:47,199
Speaker 4: Oh?

987
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, because David you said you had a hot take.

988
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 1: What was your hot taker pitch for the wanting of

989
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,000
the world title, the raw world title?

990
00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:57,639
Speaker 3: Oh my, my hot tank is that Punk wins it

991
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,480
and just goes on the tirade of a lifetime. Just

992
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:07,440
he is defeating all comers single handedly. There is no doubt,

993
00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:11,840
notion in against It's just Punk being Punk. Just the

994
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,599
how his run was a couple of years ago. We

995
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,559
just recreate that where he is just he's that man

996
00:43:18,639 --> 00:43:21,480
to be beat. We go through Facebook.

997
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,599
Speaker 1: Pictures have Punk doing long runs. He really wants a

998
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:24,840
Punk long world title one.

999
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,079
Speaker 2: I can feel you know.

1000
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,519
Speaker 3: I want a Punk long run. And then at the

1001
00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:34,960
end of it, I want for someone from aw to

1002
00:43:35,039 --> 00:43:37,480
jump over and that be the person who takes not

1003
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:44,400
Jericho hang Mane is the option. MJF is the one

1004
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,679
that I want to jump over and be the one

1005
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:47,840
to take the talks.

1006
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: It's gotta be the box has gotta be hanged man

1007
00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:52,880
one of those things.

1008
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 3: So that that's that's my hot take with that. But

1009
00:43:55,639 --> 00:43:58,360
to your point about SmackDown, Like, I was so let

1010
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,199
down by the ending that I lost a lot of

1011
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,400
trust in SmackDown, Like, it's gonna be very hard for

1012
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,199
you to convince me to watch a big match, in

1013
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,719
me to think that this big match is actually going

1014
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:10,280
to matter.

1015
00:44:11,039 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, which you don't expect to like, wasn't the awful.

1016
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,159
It's just that the big payoff was a lot. And

1017
00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:18,559
obviously there's some stuff that was all right. But uh,

1018
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,199
the other big returning got which we'll to see who

1019
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,119
where he ends up in the draft list. But Samy's

1020
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:25,760
am did an open challenge kind of everyone knew it

1021
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,000
was gonna be dragging off but end up being draggon off.

1022
00:44:28,199 --> 00:44:31,679
He's back, much bigger, he's less tone but more like bulky.

1023
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:36,239
He's got a big I'll say, not my favorite type

1024
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,280
of tattoo, the neck tattoo, but you know it does

1025
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,800
add to I don't know, it's funny. I've seen a

1026
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,039
debate of like I feel like people are like it's

1027
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:46,039
add to his aura or he has no aura, and

1028
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:48,679
I feel like I'm kind of I'm I won't say

1029
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,800
it's no aura, but I felt like there were some

1030
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,320
dropdowns and even the knee brace.

1031
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, can someone gets.

1032
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,639
Speaker 4: The most or for you and wrestling just to get

1033
00:44:57,679 --> 00:44:59,880
a ceil? So I'll say, if you're going to a low,

1034
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:01,480
if the Los isl clones.

1035
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:02,599
Speaker 2: It's Ree Ripley for sure.

1036
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,039
Speaker 1: Ree Ripley is the tippy top, and then Lois is

1037
00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:08,639
probably like Lois is Jericho.

1038
00:45:10,639 --> 00:45:13,679
Speaker 4: L clone, oh L clone.

1039
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think that dragon if I had to

1040
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,159
see more, because like the look took it down. But

1041
00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:21,599
then when I watched that promo they released on social media,

1042
00:45:22,039 --> 00:45:24,320
that or A went up by ten right there. So

1043
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,360
I feel like if we'd have to get a whole

1044
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:27,960
scale making that that, but I feel like right now

1045
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,239
he's sent at a solid seven. The next few weeks

1046
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,400
will determine what they will be, because yeah, I think,

1047
00:45:34,519 --> 00:45:36,079
you know, even when he had the big stash, I

1048
00:45:36,199 --> 00:45:36,519
like that.

1049
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,199
Speaker 2: I think I I think is he shorter?

1050
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: I liked him toned up a bit more, but he

1051
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,440
has that wolverringe thing going on, and like I said,

1052
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:46,760
he doesn't need to be like Charlotte with uh like sparkles,

1053
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,039
but someone gets some color and then someone get that.

1054
00:45:49,199 --> 00:45:51,079
Someone get the color on the knee brace. Don't just

1055
00:45:51,079 --> 00:45:53,360
give him the gray and black like someone give him

1056
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,320
a red one, like.

1057
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,119
Speaker 4: You should have like a like a red or orange.

1058
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, something. But he came back. The gold one would work. Yeah,

1059
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:03,679
gold one.

1060
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 2: He should have two in whichever his trunks are the

1061
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,239
other color. Is that like a u to role of that?

1062
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,639
Speaker 1: But he came back and to me, I didn't get

1063
00:46:10,639 --> 00:46:12,639
this the full five star on a drop kick, but

1064
00:46:12,639 --> 00:46:14,599
I gave the four point seventy five. Might watch it

1065
00:46:14,639 --> 00:46:18,079
again before the year. And this was a phenomenal match. Uh,

1066
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,239
lots of great moments. I think my favorite one was

1067
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,559
when they both did like the fire up comeback spot

1068
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:25,960
but at the same time, like it fits because their

1069
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,079
baby faces, so they're baby facing at the same time,

1070
00:46:29,159 --> 00:46:32,280
and it was incredible that the chop sequence was saying

1071
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,960
was down. Dragonoff is one of those guys that, yeah,

1072
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,480
it wrestling just feels real. He It's such a shame

1073
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,400
that you know Brian's done, because all I want to

1074
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:41,880
see is Brian.

1075
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: I want to see Brian goother.

1076
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,639
Speaker 1: I want to see Brian dragonoff and actually Brian Lyra

1077
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:45,960
as well.

1078
00:46:46,039 --> 00:46:48,039
Speaker 2: So like I honestly those three so bad.

1079
00:46:48,119 --> 00:46:50,079
Speaker 1: But uh, to me, I said this in the discord

1080
00:46:50,119 --> 00:46:51,679
because we're talking about because the rumor was that he's

1081
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,880
come back, and I just said that they should start

1082
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,800
to push right away. I didn't want to five to

1083
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,320
eight week of he versus, you know, the miss versus,

1084
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,079
because they do that with guys right sometimes where it's

1085
00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:03,280
like we're just gonna have him get a lot of

1086
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,079
wins and then you know we'll eventually get them something big,

1087
00:47:06,119 --> 00:47:09,360
no big moment beat Sammy zaying it's not like he's

1088
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,320
gonna go to raw and become a world CHAMPI but

1089
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,840
to me, this was a perfect like start to push. Yes, dude,

1090
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,599
this way and I'm very excited. I don't think they'll

1091
00:47:16,679 --> 00:47:18,280
keep the open Challenge, but I would like to.

1092
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, the first male to be NXT UK champion, NXT

1093
00:47:23,639 --> 00:47:27,000
Champion and a champion on the main roster. Oh really

1094
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,719
never won anything in actual yeah next see only in UK,

1095
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,159
but RHA is the one for in general.

1096
00:47:34,159 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: The ultimate aura machine there so but uh, yeah, no,

1097
00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:41,599
it's to me great start to it. Interesting where Sammy

1098
00:47:41,639 --> 00:47:43,519
goes I know people are excited and hoping the Sami

1099
00:47:43,559 --> 00:47:44,159
thing happens.

1100
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: I don't get me.

1101
00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:48,519
Speaker 1: Wrong, I would, but it's at the same time. Now,

1102
00:47:48,559 --> 00:47:51,920
to me, that story was him. You can do other stories,

1103
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,840
but him beating Seth was at really like that to

1104
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,239
me was the perfect story, especially the way Ross started

1105
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,880
earlier this year. So I still think Sammy will win

1106
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,599
the world title, but I just don't think it's gonna

1107
00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:03,440
be aut of Mania right now. But yes, what are

1108
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,039
your thoughts on dragging off Sammy losing being back?

1109
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: You know what's next, et cetera.

1110
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,519
Speaker 4: No, Yeah, the return in the and the match was awesome,

1111
00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:16,119
like like Ilia Dragon off is just he's just amazing. Uh,

1112
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,039
And yeah, I thought the Mattresses were good. I like

1113
00:48:18,119 --> 00:48:21,960
that it didn't actually end on like the solo distraction

1114
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,679
like it happened. But then Sammy like like countered Ilia

1115
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,920
right away, and yeah the match is great and yeah

1116
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,320
he got they got attacked by the by the MFTs again,

1117
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,599
but then the Wyatts came out after too, So I

1118
00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:38,239
don't really know. What I think is probably gonna happen,

1119
00:48:38,519 --> 00:48:42,400
is like some of the mft's like get like us

1120
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,440
title shots, Like I could see like a Thomas. Honestly,

1121
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,840
Tom Tongka versus Ilio would be a good match. I

1122
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,800
think that would be a cool match. Uh, And I

1123
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,840
guess they're all just sort of like mixed because also,

1124
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,840
like they put Phoenix out there, so I feel like him,

1125
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,039
Sammy and Ilia are sort of gonna be like a group. So,

1126
00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:02,039
I mean I saw some people pitching like you do,

1127
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,840
like like the n XT, like Triple Threat, war Games

1128
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:10,519
or something like. Yeah, it was like three different Yeah.

1129
00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:13,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be something different too, so yeah.

1130
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm wondering where that all goes. But as

1131
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,199
of now, the the win was good and honestly, Sammy

1132
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,079
had a really good ray in there.

1133
00:49:20,679 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was funny.

1134
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: It wasn't that like the longest, but it was when

1135
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,239
I think that was the high point. Obviously a smackdownhen

1136
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,559
they've kind of had some low stuff and yeah, I

1137
00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:31,800
don't know what they're gonna do, Like you had some

1138
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,119
good pitches there, Sammy being around war games stuff like

1139
00:49:34,159 --> 00:49:36,079
that for a little bit. But I'll be very curious

1140
00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:39,079
to do see what they do with Sammy in the

1141
00:49:39,079 --> 00:49:41,119
coming months. If that's not the plan right now, is

1142
00:49:41,159 --> 00:49:42,360
to get in wrestling.

1143
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 4: Is there's also a chance that they that they saved

1144
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:50,199
the World Tower will win for like wrestling and Saudi Arabia.

1145
00:49:51,079 --> 00:49:53,679
Speaker 1: Right, I forgot about that, and that'd be the perfect

1146
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,559
way for everybody because.

1147
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 4: People are pitching like, oh, like he's winning the rumble.

1148
00:49:57,679 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 3: Let's forget about the side.

1149
00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, the title insunny to me.

1150
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 1: That is the way I'm like everybody being mad, like

1151
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:05,320
you're going to sorry.

1152
00:50:05,079 --> 00:50:07,519
Speaker 2: For Amy as you give to Sammy the ultimate underdog.

1153
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: So maybe that's why that Sammy WrestleMania thing got halted

1154
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,199
because yeah, I'm with you, That to me makes way

1155
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,440
more sense than doing it. Like, I just don't see

1156
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,079
it right now. None of the stories fit now with

1157
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:19,280
out set. So yeah, that's a good pitch. Yeah, I

1158
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,559
think that's that's definitely what it's gonna happen if everything

1159
00:50:21,639 --> 00:50:25,679
goes okay, So yeah, what about you, David, any thoughts

1160
00:50:25,679 --> 00:50:25,880
on this?

1161
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 3: I love that Sammy dragonoff match, that h bomb into

1162
00:50:30,599 --> 00:50:34,559
the boot, just the replay of that that was amazing.

1163
00:50:34,679 --> 00:50:43,800
The counter into the the snap suplex, the the running

1164
00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:47,079
Halluva kick that was just like the way that they

1165
00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:49,679
were going back and forth. I'm like, these guys are

1166
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,960
just they're going to war here, and I would not

1167
00:50:53,119 --> 00:50:56,599
be mad if it became a running thing with whoever

1168
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,679
has the US titled that that is the Open Challenge Champion.

1169
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be great.

1170
00:51:01,639 --> 00:51:04,639
Speaker 1: Well, like it depends though, if Tongolo gets it then

1171
00:51:04,679 --> 00:51:08,039
you know, it all depends that the work or I'd say,

1172
00:51:08,039 --> 00:51:10,960
like the Babyfaces should probably do that then, right, Like yeah,

1173
00:51:11,119 --> 00:51:12,719
a heel wouldn't want to do that, right.

1174
00:51:12,639 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, and I could. I could see definitely a

1175
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,800
situation where whatever Babyface wins it says, hey, when whoever

1176
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,960
else had it, you know, they were done on a jog,

1177
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,360
but you know, we're gonna bring this back. And then

1178
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,440
of course the he'll eventually wins it again and they

1179
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,440
start running and whenever you get the baby Faces they

1180
00:51:30,519 --> 00:51:33,000
quote unquote bring it back. But no, that was a

1181
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:37,760
great match. I do think that the MFT versus the

1182
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,760
White thing was the Okay, we're having to change gears

1183
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,719
with war games, so let's start.

1184
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,079
Speaker 2: Men war games.

1185
00:51:46,159 --> 00:51:50,559
Speaker 3: Well, let's let's start building that now because with us

1186
00:51:50,599 --> 00:51:53,239
having to move up our timetable on the vision and

1187
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,639
what we're doing with that, because I had in my mind,

1188
00:51:56,639 --> 00:51:58,719
I had the vision losing at war Games and that

1189
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,159
was going to be the last final crack in the

1190
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,760
vision was a loss at war Games. So with them

1191
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,159
having to move things up, Okay, we're going to insert

1192
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:14,400
two new groupings there, and so I think that they

1193
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,400
could have those two groups could have like an amazing

1194
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:23,519
war game. So I'm here for that. But yeah, I

1195
00:52:23,559 --> 00:52:24,760
think that that was the best part.

1196
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 4: Is like an opener wargames. So like like they're opening

1197
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,639
the show with the White versus the m FTS.

1198
00:52:33,199 --> 00:52:35,119
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it depends what the main is though, right,

1199
00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:36,960
because they might want to open hot with the women

1200
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,119
and because you know that'll get like.

1201
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:40,679
Speaker 2: A big reaction ag that could also main event.

1202
00:52:41,559 --> 00:52:43,679
Speaker 4: I don't think it is main Like I don't think

1203
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:49,679
the whats versus.

1204
00:52:48,199 --> 00:52:51,039
Speaker 3: AJ is truly going to be a part of this match,

1205
00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:53,719
then it is main eventing, that's what.

1206
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 4: Unless they put like because they did that last year

1207
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,920
they put like all the belt in wargans. Because let's say,

1208
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,960
like because you could put like if you get the

1209
00:53:06,159 --> 00:53:08,960
heel team, like you, you could find a way to

1210
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,159
put all the belts in the women's war games, like

1211
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:17,840
oh yeah, Stephanie, like stony A, Charlotte, Alexa, you probably

1212
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,920
put Julia with like Kyrie and Osca to have that

1213
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,000
one in there too, Like there's a chance they do

1214
00:53:24,119 --> 00:53:27,440
like literally like this like the All Star Women's War

1215
00:53:27,519 --> 00:53:28,480
Games match.

1216
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:29,679
Speaker 2: And I think you can main event that.

1217
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 1: For me, I just need to see what the title matches, right,

1218
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:33,960
because even though we think it's Sara Nights May men,

1219
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,760
what if they do some tournament and that's when they

1220
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,119
decide the men's world champion is there, right, So it's

1221
00:53:39,159 --> 00:53:41,760
like for me, if it's crowning a new men's champion,

1222
00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:44,840
they're gonna give that to the that's gonna be the closing. No,

1223
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,679
I think Whyt's is like a perfect mid card thing.

1224
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,199
I've seen people be like, all that won't work. They

1225
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,119
fucking chanted holy shit to them staring now the.

1226
00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 4: Crowd will eat up last week to Yeah, the.

1227
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: Crowd will eat up the MFT and Wyatt's doing that.

1228
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,760
They like the Wyat's like and just make a shorter one,

1229
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,480
you know, because obviously it's it's a bit long with

1230
00:54:02,519 --> 00:54:05,280
the calls everything. But like I I don't think people

1231
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:06,960
and they're like, oh, I don't know if that'll work.

1232
00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 2: I understand it maybe not being a great match.

1233
00:54:09,039 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: No, that that's a whole different question, but like we've

1234
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,440
seen other matches get fight forever, this is awesome. Chance

1235
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,480
you're like, oh really this is what this match is

1236
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,039
getting chanted Okay, So yeah, and.

1237
00:54:21,079 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 4: Sort of sort of related to I was saying, like

1238
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,480
with the plans in the future we've been doing already,

1239
00:54:25,639 --> 00:54:27,840
I guess we can go into like the women's sort

1240
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,239
of thing because no one hasn't had like as huge

1241
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,159
of storylines. But I do think there's still like stuff

1242
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,679
progressing there, like we just start with raw like with

1243
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,760
Stephanie Vecuer, because it seems like the next thing for

1244
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,440
her is like Rock San and Raquel, and I think

1245
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,719
they're probably both gonna get title matches at some point.

1246
00:54:46,119 --> 00:54:49,639
I could see like a Raquel being like maybe, well no,

1247
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,079
because like I said, it depends on how many people

1248
00:54:52,119 --> 00:54:54,679
are in this morgane they put in there. But I

1249
00:54:54,679 --> 00:54:57,800
feel like I feel like Rock San, I feel like

1250
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,840
Raquel's gonna be built as like the big your match

1251
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,519
of the of like the two.

1252
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 1: Yes, Raquel is either just I think she's just like

1253
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:07,840
a raw defense to be honest.

1254
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 2: Maybe you could do serta.

1255
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: Event maybe, but I don't even know if that's like

1256
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,360
a I don't know if that's putting butts in seats

1257
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,639
to like Riquel versus Stephanie's. I think that's a raw

1258
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,239
defense And yeah, no, I I guess said I I'm

1259
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,199
a full seat. Stephanie's holding the single Mania, I think, so,

1260
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:24,719
I actually don't.

1261
00:55:25,199 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 4: I don't think she's gonna hold. I think my theory

1262
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:32,320
is I think OSCA is the next raw, like like

1263
00:55:32,599 --> 00:55:33,760
women's World Champion.

1264
00:55:34,199 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: Really hmmm, I think so Okay, yeah, I know, I know.

1265
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,280
I'm still rocking the rheas win the rumble Stephanie.

1266
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 4: I think it could be like a because I don't know,

1267
00:55:46,039 --> 00:55:49,320
because I feel like because what they what they don't

1268
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,079
like to do is like I don't know, because it

1269
00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:55,639
depends it. Sometimes they don't like doing like like a

1270
00:55:55,679 --> 00:55:59,360
face Beazza face, or like a heel beatsa heel if

1271
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,960
it's like a storyline type thing. Like what I feel

1272
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,039
like they would do is like if you want like

1273
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,320
because I like, right now, I don't think. I don't

1274
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,320
think Ria and Stephanie is happening at Manie like I'm still,

1275
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:12,599
oh it's happening.

1276
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,159
Speaker 1: It's hackening again. They're getting the trends and everything that

1277
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,960
Ria is getting. Win the second Royal Rumble, like I

1278
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:19,360
I think.

1279
00:56:19,199 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 2: They're going for I think Rio would lose too as well.

1280
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,079
Speaker 1: I think that this show put over seventy because he

1281
00:56:23,159 --> 00:56:24,199
has won a bunch of Mania.

1282
00:56:24,199 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 2: It's like, I just unless they get.

1283
00:56:27,079 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 4: Ria do it at Mania again. I see the root

1284
00:56:32,519 --> 00:56:35,400
for that is like you're gonna have Oscar beat Oscar

1285
00:56:35,519 --> 00:56:38,920
beat Stephanie, EO beats Osca, and then you have Ria

1286
00:56:39,039 --> 00:56:41,880
finally beat Io for the first time at WrestleMania.

1287
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 1: Maybe.

1288
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 2: I guess there's two things.

1289
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: One, I still think there's always a chance that a

1290
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,039
tag team run happens and that's what they do there.

1291
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:49,320
I don't know if they would want to do that

1292
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,480
for Mania. I don't think so. But I also would

1293
00:56:51,519 --> 00:56:52,440
not mind do.

1294
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 4: The tag team run like I think I think they're

1295
00:56:55,480 --> 00:57:00,519
next tack team run up until like EO would win

1296
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,519
like a title yeah, and Rio would get into like

1297
00:57:03,679 --> 00:57:06,679
the thing again of like she's never actually beat her.

1298
00:57:07,199 --> 00:57:09,639
Speaker 1: I would also just want to be honest then if

1299
00:57:09,639 --> 00:57:12,079
they do, if they do Ria and EO, I would

1300
00:57:12,199 --> 00:57:14,400
rather than just do it not for the title, because

1301
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,199
that's not like the story is like you can make

1302
00:57:17,239 --> 00:57:18,679
it that EO's being here for real, but like the

1303
00:57:18,679 --> 00:57:21,440
whole story is she can't beat Eo, right, And to me,

1304
00:57:21,519 --> 00:57:24,400
that's one where it's like that's a huge matchup with

1305
00:57:24,599 --> 00:57:26,199
like the Jade and Naomi thing where it's like, you

1306
00:57:26,199 --> 00:57:28,280
don't need a title. We got another women's match on here.

1307
00:57:28,599 --> 00:57:31,079
We've only had in the whole forty one years of resuming,

1308
00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:33,199
we've had one women's match that didn't have a title.

1309
00:57:33,559 --> 00:57:36,599
That could easily be another one of It's tough though,

1310
00:57:36,599 --> 00:57:39,280
because then you got to do like yeah, because then

1311
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,000
there's a breakup and it's heel and stuff.

1312
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 2: But like so that probably wouldn't work.

1313
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:48,039
Speaker 4: That's how I would refer you. You do Rias as

1314
00:57:48,159 --> 00:57:49,800
Fatista and I'm gonna rip.

1315
00:57:49,599 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: Your Yeah no, yeah, just it wouldn't work the way

1316
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,559
I'm pitching, But that's what I would want. I don't

1317
00:57:58,599 --> 00:58:01,039
think you and even that, like, I don't think like

1318
00:58:01,559 --> 00:58:03,400
the fans would need that much if you just said, yeah,

1319
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,039
they're gonna fight at WrestleMania because to decide who's best.

1320
00:58:06,039 --> 00:58:07,800
They'll be on board if you make the card good enough.

1321
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,400
But yeah, what do you what do you think David?

1322
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,519
With the Royal World title scene.

1323
00:58:14,039 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 3: I see Raquel being the immediate opponent. That's gonna be

1324
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,480
the the back and forth. I do they are going

1325
00:58:21,559 --> 00:58:25,159
to get to the re match. It's gonna happen. Someone

1326
00:58:25,239 --> 00:58:28,119
please lock Booker t away in a room by himself

1327
00:58:28,159 --> 00:58:30,960
when this does happen, because I do not need to

1328
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,199
hear his commentary or have the Internet when it does.

1329
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,360
But outside of that, I think it's it's gonna happen.

1330
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,159
I think it's gonna be a great match, and I

1331
00:58:39,199 --> 00:58:44,159
think it will be the final ascension point of Stephanie

1332
00:58:44,199 --> 00:58:48,199
Veck here, like this is the what we're putting you

1333
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:53,320
up here, because Rhea does not have a problem losing,

1334
00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:56,880
Like she's proved that throughout her entire career. She does

1335
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,360
not have a problem taking the pins. So I think

1336
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:04,639
that in order to project someone up, you know, give

1337
00:59:04,679 --> 00:59:07,960
them that last little push this that would be it.

1338
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then smacked own. I think I'm just going

1339
00:59:11,039 --> 00:59:12,800
with the easy answer right now. If Tiffany and Beyonca,

1340
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,920
because I really have no idea over there.

1341
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,159
Speaker 4: I just think you're not locked in for the double

1342
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:24,639
champ Julia Agenda not yet. No, they're gonna do the match. Yeah,

1343
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,400
I'm not sure if like Julia is actually gonna win.

1344
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,159
Speaker 1: No, Julius not winning that, No, there's there to me,

1345
00:59:31,239 --> 00:59:31,840
there's no way.

1346
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 2: I will say.

1347
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: That's also in smack and that I was disappointed by

1348
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,840
when like, oh, how do you feel you've lost in

1349
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,119
a year or whatnot, and you're like, well, that's why

1350
00:59:39,159 --> 00:59:40,840
it is. But I'm ready for the next I was like, Oh,

1351
00:59:41,039 --> 00:59:44,320
finally something to maybe give Tiffany some doubt something going in.

1352
00:59:44,559 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 2: But it's like the match never happened, had no consequence,

1353
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:47,440
which I know.

1354
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,199
Speaker 1: It doesn't really, but like still like when they've been

1355
00:59:49,239 --> 00:59:51,039
built this wind streak to be like, what does this

1356
00:59:51,079 --> 00:59:51,480
feel like?

1357
00:59:51,639 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 4: Uh?

1358
00:59:52,599 --> 00:59:53,239
Speaker 2: Not much shit?

1359
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,079
Speaker 1: And I was like, whoever, And I don't put that

1360
00:59:55,119 --> 00:59:57,840
on her. I put that whoever produced that segment, wrote

1361
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,519
or whatever. Just was like, oh, you could have done

1362
00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:02,000
something here, and may that be the reason why to

1363
01:00:02,039 --> 01:00:03,920
have some doubt with Julia of like, well, I did

1364
01:00:04,039 --> 01:00:06,320
just lose an X Y and Z, but nah, just

1365
01:00:06,679 --> 01:00:08,800
Tiffany doing her whole thing, which I feel like Tiffany's

1366
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,599
just like still pop, there's still chance.

1367
01:00:11,679 --> 01:00:13,039
Speaker 2: But I just think they need some more.

1368
01:00:13,079 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: They need a hot feud for Tiffany because I feel

1369
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:16,960
like she's cooled off a bit and it does feel

1370
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,760
like where all the other people were last year and

1371
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:20,480
she was up.

1372
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 2: There with them.

1373
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,719
Speaker 1: I feel like the Stephan needs the Rea, the Eos,

1374
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,320
like they're kind of eclipsinger. I guess I could still

1375
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,960
maybe put her on that fourth wrong, but it feels

1376
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,719
like she's gonna fall off at any moment now and

1377
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,159
be replaced by somebody else. And I don't think that's

1378
01:00:34,159 --> 01:00:36,400
completely her fault, by the way, we talked about the matches,

1379
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,800
but I think it's just the segments, and it sucks

1380
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,719
with SmackDown. She's been locked with just doing Nie and

1381
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,840
Jade for the past six months. You know, it's like

1382
01:00:44,119 --> 01:00:47,239
no one's invested in that right now, and Julia hasn't

1383
01:00:47,239 --> 01:00:48,719
had a good go either, So it's like this match

1384
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,280
is on paper interesting, but I'm not invested character wise

1385
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:53,840
right So honestly.

1386
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 4: It's like with like sort of stuff of like talks

1387
01:00:56,519 --> 01:00:58,800
of like call us and stuff like I can honestly

1388
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,400
like like any women they call up should honestly all

1389
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,039
go to the SmackDown. Like I feel like on Rock,

1390
01:01:05,239 --> 01:01:08,239
like the people you have is like you're you're pretty

1391
01:01:08,239 --> 01:01:10,280
good with the with the roster there.

1392
01:01:10,119 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 2: Even war injuries, you're good for a while.

1393
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,159
Speaker 4: Even like with like you know, like Maxine du Pre

1394
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,679
like actually getting over and stuff.

1395
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a character now, right, Like you know, it's

1396
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,960
like a character spot, which you need those four worst

1397
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,400
smackdowns just like I don't unless they want like upgrade

1398
01:01:27,519 --> 01:01:29,400
Chelsea Green to be an actual wrestler, which we know

1399
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:30,840
she can be, like an actual wrestler.

1400
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 2: Wrestler, you could when you turn baby face.

1401
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: You could on like this girl's fucking putting on you know,

1402
01:01:35,559 --> 01:01:38,440
these classics with Penta and everything. Right, So it's like

1403
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:43,880
you could do that, but you know we'll see, Yeah, David,

1404
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,280
anything SmackDown window, where do you think it's going next

1405
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:47,119
couple of months here.

1406
01:01:47,679 --> 01:01:51,639
Speaker 3: It's I'm with you on the whole biance thing. I mean,

1407
01:01:51,679 --> 01:01:55,480
I don't see they're they're kind of at a loss

1408
01:01:55,559 --> 01:01:59,639
right now for viable contenders, uh, mid card they have

1409
01:01:59,719 --> 01:02:03,480
a lot of viable contenders, but for a championship, yeah,

1410
01:02:03,519 --> 01:02:07,159
I don't see anything with that going on.

1411
01:02:07,679 --> 01:02:08,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1412
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 4: Yeah. Also something that I guess, like for I'm talking

1413
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,840
about is like where do you think like Live will

1414
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,800
fit into all of it in general? Because she's like

1415
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,519
pretty much like she's coming back at the rumble pretty

1416
01:02:21,559 --> 01:02:22,800
much is like the word.

1417
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:28,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess to me, like again, barring other injuries

1418
01:02:28,199 --> 01:02:30,719
or whatnot, I feel she's.

1419
01:02:31,079 --> 01:02:33,199
Speaker 4: Like what's his like Mania match.

1420
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: Tag or something unfortunately or in like a in a

1421
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,800
mid like the mid card title multi person match, like

1422
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:43,679
that sort of thing.

1423
01:02:43,719 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 2: I think that would be the case.

1424
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 4: So something I'm thinking. I feel like, I don't know,

1425
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,119
if you get like Roxane aj one on one, I

1426
01:02:52,159 --> 01:02:55,000
feel like it could be like a multi woman with

1427
01:02:55,119 --> 01:02:58,039
like living there and Becky in there and stuff like that.

1428
01:02:58,159 --> 01:03:00,880
Maybe you do like like like the classic you know,

1429
01:03:01,039 --> 01:03:04,639
media Mania mid card ladder match, but for the women,

1430
01:03:04,719 --> 01:03:05,400
that would be cool.

1431
01:03:05,679 --> 01:03:07,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I I think it's gonna be something like that.

1432
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 2: I don't I don't. I know.

1433
01:03:09,039 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 1: I've seen some people pitching her winning the Rumble because

1434
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,239
of return, she's never won the Rumble. I don't think that.

1435
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 4: Every year.

1436
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see the vision though right of this year,

1437
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,519
as far as she's never won, she would be coming back.

1438
01:03:22,559 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 2: You get a pop.

1439
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: I I wouldn't mind that. I I like live more

1440
01:03:26,239 --> 01:03:27,400
one with the other people. I think she did not

1441
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,079
get enough credit. You know, a couple of years ago

1442
01:03:30,119 --> 01:03:32,320
when she was having her run. Obviously there's some storyline

1443
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:36,280
stuff involved with that. But uh, yeah, I know we'll see,

1444
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,320
but yeah, I don't think she'll lah be. I think

1445
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,320
she's like a world title holder in the off not

1446
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:45,679
the WrestleMania season. So okay, was there anything else w

1447
01:03:45,679 --> 01:03:46,880
W we hadn't touched upon.

1448
01:03:49,719 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 4: Trying to think if there's any other I don't think

1449
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:02,199
so really, Moore More, Jericho's definitely.

1450
01:04:01,719 --> 01:04:04,639
Speaker 1: Coming in talk, he's definitely, He's definitely that.

1451
01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 3: I will say that that's the only big news that

1452
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:08,519
we have right now.

1453
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,679
Speaker 1: Big news, like that's that's the big news.

1454
01:04:14,679 --> 01:04:15,719
Speaker 2: But yeah, I know we'll wait and see.

1455
01:04:15,719 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: Like I said, we'll get a David Don't on the

1456
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,159
next episode for that, so then we move over.

1457
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:20,599
Speaker 2: I still did not watch it.

1458
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 4: Exactly an hour of we can do it an hour

1459
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:24,840
for each exactly.

1460
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so for a w WE wrestle dream, I gotta

1461
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:30,159
pull up the card so I can get it in

1462
01:04:30,719 --> 01:04:33,559
production once here. I do not see the full uh

1463
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,440
FTR match because they I did really enjoy that they

1464
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,559
did the whole They were still wrestling on the pre

1465
01:04:38,599 --> 01:04:41,480
show when the match started, the pirates going on. Yeah,

1466
01:04:41,719 --> 01:04:42,960
so that was good. But from what I saw, it

1467
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,519
was good, made sense. They got the win and also

1468
01:04:44,559 --> 01:04:46,159
made sense too that they got to win on pay

1469
01:04:46,159 --> 01:04:48,519
per view because you're you are trying to build them

1470
01:04:48,599 --> 01:04:50,880
up for Edge and Christian rematch at some point.

1471
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, we had four pre show matches. I didn't

1472
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,239
see any of them in the end of that. I know,

1473
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,719
Sums you didn't, David, you didn't see any of those either, right.

1474
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 3: I saw the f TR one and I saw the

1475
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,039
Willow one. I went back to watch the Willow one

1476
01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:07,039
just because I love Willow so I wanted it to.

1477
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,719
Speaker 4: The only other thing was the people posting clips of

1478
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,199
Meghan Bain and Penel before.

1479
01:05:14,719 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: Yes, the costume, yeah, but yeah, what do you think

1480
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:19,480
of a wrestl dream overall?

1481
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 2: Before we go over some of these one by one.

1482
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,679
Speaker 3: Overall, I thought it was fun. It had It's a

1483
01:05:25,719 --> 01:05:28,440
couple of matches went a little bit too long for

1484
01:05:28,639 --> 01:05:31,719
my liking, which I mean that's come to be expected

1485
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:36,039
from a lot of aw pay per views. The choice

1486
01:05:36,119 --> 01:05:40,920
to how they started the pay per view was interesting.

1487
01:05:41,039 --> 01:05:44,000
It worked for them, but I never want them to

1488
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,920
do it again. Okay, it was fun, you had your moment,

1489
01:05:47,039 --> 01:05:49,159
but I don't want them to do anything like that again.

1490
01:05:49,639 --> 01:05:52,199
It did make me realize Okay, that's why they released

1491
01:05:52,199 --> 01:05:56,639
the cold open four days before the actual pay per view.

1492
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,599
Like the cold open of it was up I think

1493
01:06:00,079 --> 01:06:04,119
uh Wednesday night or Thursday morning they had it released.

1494
01:06:04,159 --> 01:06:08,039
I'm like, wow, that's that's interesting for this big, you know,

1495
01:06:09,159 --> 01:06:12,320
brutal match that they've got planned. And oh, that's because

1496
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,760
they're gonna go straight into this weirdness with the opening

1497
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:19,760
of the pay per view. So with that said, like

1498
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:24,440
some of the matches were good, I am an overall

1499
01:06:24,519 --> 01:06:27,599
fan of most of it. I will probably give it

1500
01:06:27,679 --> 01:06:30,519
like a B grade if I had to say that.

1501
01:06:30,719 --> 01:06:34,840
There were there's two or three top tier matches, but

1502
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:40,320
most of them were in the in my opinion, the

1503
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,760
solid just B B minus range.

1504
01:06:43,119 --> 01:06:45,239
Speaker 2: Okay, I think I'm like a B plus on it.

1505
01:06:45,239 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 1: I think because for me, other than two matches on here,

1506
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:50,639
I guess three because I just.

1507
01:06:50,559 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 2: Don't count the hurts in the kit. But there are

1508
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:53,840
part of the shows all count.

1509
01:06:54,079 --> 01:06:57,719
Speaker 1: You gotta count, so that does bring out every other

1510
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,480
match for me is like four stars or higher. Everyone

1511
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,880
worked really well. I thought it was a really really

1512
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:06,239
good show. There's some unpredictable, some stuff that we kind

1513
01:07:06,239 --> 01:07:09,920
of predicted with certain turns, and whatnot. But yeah, overall,

1514
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:11,559
I thought it was a really really good show. I

1515
01:07:11,559 --> 01:07:15,199
can't remember what was a god I always forget the

1516
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:16,719
name it was for.

1517
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:18,719
Speaker 2: It was Forbidden Door right the last pair review.

1518
01:07:19,679 --> 01:07:23,559
Speaker 5: No, no, it was all not all right, all out right, Okay,

1519
01:07:24,119 --> 01:07:28,280
So I think I think this was overall better than

1520
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,079
all out I had to look at because I think

1521
01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:31,440
they one had a few more matches.

1522
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,599
Speaker 2: I was like, I didn't know, and there's one match

1523
01:07:33,639 --> 01:07:34,079
on here.

1524
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: That particularly really over delivered. I gave one match here

1525
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,599
a five starts in my match to your category. I

1526
01:07:39,679 --> 01:07:41,840
was very surprised by But I'm gonna stop being surprised

1527
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,239
by it because I'll explain why. But as Bob said,

1528
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,679
I felt you, I saw your drop kick you. I

1529
01:07:47,719 --> 01:07:49,679
feel like this is other than maybe all in the

1530
01:07:49,679 --> 01:07:52,000
most aw pair review You've watched a lot of.

1531
01:07:52,039 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 2: In history, because I think before you you know Cherry Pick.

1532
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:56,119
Speaker 1: But I saw a lot of match rains other than

1533
01:07:56,199 --> 01:07:58,559
hurt said it Kit and maybe another one or something.

1534
01:07:59,199 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely I try to watch most of it.

1535
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,320
But then there's a few matches where I just like,

1536
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:09,079
wasn't really paying intent doing something else, because yeah, that

1537
01:08:09,239 --> 01:08:11,599
is like my my main issues. Just like a lot

1538
01:08:11,599 --> 01:08:14,480
of these were just like really long, yes matches like

1539
01:08:14,599 --> 01:08:18,199
back to back, but overall from from what I see

1540
01:08:18,239 --> 01:08:21,279
and like, I didn't think it was a good show,

1541
01:08:21,319 --> 01:08:24,800
even though I didn't have a few problems with stuff.

1542
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:25,920
But we'll get into it.

1543
01:08:26,159 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So then we got the you know,

1544
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,039
this was a great trass opener. Jamie Hayter my girl

1545
01:08:31,039 --> 01:08:35,399
in aw versus Tecla my defense. You know, a person

1546
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:38,079
that I keep going for. But you know what, I again,

1547
01:08:38,279 --> 01:08:41,680
I defend her again. This was a really good match.

1548
01:08:42,119 --> 01:08:44,359
It's still like just a like a soul to me.

1549
01:08:44,359 --> 01:08:45,840
I gave like a three point five, so I didn't

1550
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:47,560
get that four level, but actually I think you got

1551
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:48,760
like a three point five.

1552
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,600
Speaker 2: But really solid match.

1553
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,159
Speaker 1: I was glad Hater got the win because I legitimately

1554
01:08:53,159 --> 01:08:55,399
thought Tecla was gonna get the win here on the

1555
01:08:55,399 --> 01:08:57,520
baby Faces. We get the win in war games.

1556
01:08:57,279 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 2: So that's why I thought, oh no, she's gonna take

1557
01:08:58,800 --> 01:08:59,279
the l here.

1558
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, we'll see what happens. Also, we'll talk

1559
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,479
about the other women's stuff later. I don't know where

1560
01:09:04,119 --> 01:09:07,479
Jamie Hayer fits into all of this stuff right now,

1561
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:08,520
other than war games.

1562
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,560
Speaker 2: But no, I thought this was a really solid opener.

1563
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 1: Like to me, it's like they opened the like technically,

1564
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,800
you know, didn't open peer review, but they opened pay review.

1565
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,159
We got three women's matches on here, so this was

1566
01:09:18,239 --> 01:09:19,960
nice to see and they all got time.

1567
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 2: I agree with one.

1568
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,520
Speaker 1: I suppose critiques later that he'll bring up, but still

1569
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,880
all of them are like I think they're all Yeah,

1570
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,199
they're all fifteen minutes plus the wins matches. So yeah,

1571
01:09:28,239 --> 01:09:29,960
I thought it was a really good match, and I

1572
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,720
was very happy Jamie Hater got the win. And uh yeah,

1573
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,479
I continue to still be a Teco fan. That cross

1574
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,640
body she gave on the outside, God damn man, she's

1575
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:41,159
looking like Ricky the Dragon out there. Geez, she's that's

1576
01:09:41,199 --> 01:09:44,000
a five out of five for cross Bodies, five out

1577
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:45,239
of five stars, you know.

1578
01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 3: Yes, No, that they had their match was better than

1579
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,159
I expected to be. Like, I like Jamie Hater, I

1580
01:09:52,199 --> 01:09:55,920
really do. Deca has grown on me in a lot

1581
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,239
of ways. I'm still not like, oh my god, I

1582
01:09:59,239 --> 01:10:02,319
can't wait to see it is the match, but I'm like, okay,

1583
01:10:02,359 --> 01:10:05,039
I'm not opposed to watching a DECLA match, and this match,

1584
01:10:05,079 --> 01:10:07,640
I'm like, Okay, the these women are going and they

1585
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:14,159
had some hard hitting moments including Hater countering the spider

1586
01:10:14,279 --> 01:10:17,600
pose with the lariats and things like like they were

1587
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:19,880
they were really going at it, and I was like,

1588
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,079
all right, cool, cool, cool.

1589
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I thought it was a song match. So

1590
01:10:25,159 --> 01:10:27,600
I also get it like a like a three point five.

1591
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,279
Speaker 1: I liked it, Yeah, yeah, okay, And then we had

1592
01:10:32,399 --> 01:10:34,840
the Jurassic Express versus the Young Bucks, which you know,

1593
01:10:35,039 --> 01:10:36,880
cause these guys made some great points and so we

1594
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,079
ran on the discord because they brought everything. He was like,

1595
01:10:39,119 --> 01:10:40,640
you know, I get it now. But it's one of

1596
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:42,279
those things where it is so funny because we talked

1597
01:10:42,279 --> 01:10:44,960
about Jack Perry coming back and like he had some

1598
01:10:45,039 --> 01:10:46,960
go away heat and how's it gonna work? And even

1599
01:10:47,039 --> 01:10:49,199
on that pay re view we talked about so rehashments.

1600
01:10:49,279 --> 01:10:51,199
I thought, oh, like if he comes back as Babyface,

1601
01:10:51,319 --> 01:10:54,039
is that gonna work? I don't know, and so far I.

1602
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,359
Speaker 4: Said it was definitely gonna work. And You're like, no,

1603
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:57,840
the Bucks are too over.

1604
01:10:57,840 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: There, Well yeah, I thought the I thought it was

1605
01:11:00,039 --> 01:11:02,279
combo of the Bucks being over which they are now

1606
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,399
people are still again starting like they can turn the

1607
01:11:04,399 --> 01:11:06,159
Bucks now at any point to be baby faces.

1608
01:11:06,159 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 2: They're getting pops and cheers.

1609
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 1: I think now when people booth them, it's more like

1610
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,520
to play with the show, because like they're laughing, I

1611
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:13,840
have a good time. But I thought because the Bucks

1612
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,640
were so popular, and I also thought because of just

1613
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,119
like the go away heat that he did have there

1614
01:11:19,199 --> 01:11:21,760
for a while, I know it's been working man every

1615
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:23,399
time that theme comes on and get stuck in my head.

1616
01:11:23,399 --> 01:11:26,319
And no, just a really really good tag team match.

1617
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,439
I couldn't believe that the Drastic Express did not put

1618
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,319
any money into the crowd. I was waiting for that,

1619
01:11:31,399 --> 01:11:34,479
but no, this was to me even like better than

1620
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,960
I thought it was gonna be. I wasn't gonna say,

1621
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,039
surprise how much time it got because it is the Bucks.

1622
01:11:39,079 --> 01:11:41,039
But again, I like that it's a you got a

1623
01:11:41,039 --> 01:11:43,039
tag team match on here that sure it's for money,

1624
01:11:43,039 --> 01:11:44,720
but really it's a grudge match, doesn't have to be

1625
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:45,960
for the titles, and it's getting time.

1626
01:11:46,079 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 2: So I really enjoyed this same thing with Drastic Express.

1627
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,600
Speaker 1: They're another act where I'm like, I don't know where

1628
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,319
they're gonna go right now, because I feel that the

1629
01:11:53,359 --> 01:11:56,479
trajectory is FTR and Edgend Christian for that title.

1630
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 2: So I just don't know where they fit in.

1631
01:11:59,079 --> 01:12:01,560
Speaker 1: Maybe the man and these blood and Guts if they

1632
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,359
do that, because Tony Kink hasn't said if it's for

1633
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:08,079
sure just women, but yeah, I don't know, so any

1634
01:12:08,079 --> 01:12:08,880
thoughts on this match.

1635
01:12:12,119 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 3: So this was my second favorite match of the evening, Yes,

1636
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,720
because I thought that the Young Bucks did Young Bucks sing?

1637
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:25,600
So with the Young Bucks should uh Draassic Express dis

1638
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:31,279
stuff man that the reversal of the Bucks when they

1639
01:12:31,319 --> 01:12:34,520
did the flip over and caught him and then just

1640
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:39,279
power bombed Matt and n Nick. I'm like, this is great,

1641
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:43,520
Like I'm loving everything about this. Jack Perry using his

1642
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,640
knife to cut the tag rope and then walk over

1643
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,439
and place it somewhere else so he could walk.

1644
01:12:47,279 --> 01:12:48,039
Speaker 2: Wherever he wanted.

1645
01:12:52,039 --> 01:12:55,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, like all these little moments, I'm just like, Okay,

1646
01:12:55,760 --> 01:13:00,039
they're having a fun match and everything like that. The

1647
01:13:00,079 --> 01:13:03,800
postmatch kind of put a little bit that I didn't

1648
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:08,159
like on it with because I'm just more Don Tallas.

1649
01:13:08,199 --> 01:13:09,399
I'm just anything with.

1650
01:13:09,399 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 1: Don kalas Man's much of it.

1651
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:16,079
Speaker 3: But the match itself was, Man, it was so fun,

1652
01:13:16,239 --> 01:13:21,000
and the Bucks entrance with showing how much they have

1653
01:13:21,199 --> 01:13:27,439
and the ATM flashing how insufficient funds and like everything

1654
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,640
about this it was just it was a great funny

1655
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:33,680
start to the match that everyone in the crowd like

1656
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:37,439
trying to like offer them money them even on their entrance,

1657
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,920
someone said, hey, young bucks, twenty bucks if you signed this,

1658
01:13:41,119 --> 01:13:43,560
and like go over they sign it and then he goes,

1659
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:44,920
all right, where's my twenty bucks?

1660
01:13:45,079 --> 01:13:46,199
Speaker 1: Like that's good.

1661
01:13:47,039 --> 01:13:49,199
Speaker 3: Just stuff like that, and then the match itself, the

1662
01:13:49,239 --> 01:13:51,359
athleticism in the match, some of the spots in the match,

1663
01:13:51,399 --> 01:13:55,079
I'm like, all right, this was my second favorite match

1664
01:13:55,119 --> 01:13:55,520
of the night.

1665
01:13:56,199 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, yeah, the say yeah cool match, Like like

1666
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,239
I was saying, disc or like Jack Perry with people

1667
01:14:04,319 --> 01:14:07,279
were saying, it's like like the easiest way to turn

1668
01:14:07,359 --> 01:14:09,920
him face is if he stops trying to be like

1669
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,920
this dark seriously, he just starts doing flips again. And

1670
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,920
that's what you did in this match, and it clearly works.

1671
01:14:16,039 --> 01:14:18,840
So yeah, I think I think it's working well with

1672
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:23,279
the reunion of the Jurassic Express.

1673
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, good and same thing like I always thought too,

1674
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,600
like Austin like I can't remember, oh, Lucasaurus, like.

1675
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,319
Speaker 2: He he can move very well for a big guy too.

1676
01:14:31,319 --> 01:14:33,560
He's pretty quick, so there, and I loved.

1677
01:14:33,319 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 4: It, Like was it like a standing mood saw or

1678
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:36,520
something like that.

1679
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, And I've said this before.

1680
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:40,520
Speaker 2: We'll talk about later.

1681
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,239
Speaker 1: I love the little Man Big Man team, so we'll

1682
01:14:42,239 --> 01:14:45,680
see what happens there in the future with them. Next

1683
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:47,439
we had the Hurts and a get demand. I have

1684
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:49,880
nothing to say here literally dinner. I didn't I listen

1685
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,600
to the match, didn't watch it. Their number one continues

1686
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:56,960
for the Trios Championship and David didn't want but sorry,

1687
01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:00,199
they're winning those titles on Wednesday, they they will. We'll

1688
01:15:00,279 --> 01:15:03,479
tie this together with the Joe and uh Hangman thing

1689
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:05,279
because there'll be a bit more excited talk about them both.

1690
01:15:05,319 --> 01:15:08,319
But Joe and Hangman did have their match for me,

1691
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:11,119
very solid, good match. Definitely to me that that perfect,

1692
01:15:11,239 --> 01:15:13,760
Like it's a good match, but you know they're you know,

1693
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,079
they're saving It feels very much like that first Kevin

1694
01:15:16,119 --> 01:15:19,000
Owens Cody match where okay, now when we get full Joe,

1695
01:15:19,079 --> 01:15:20,800
he's just gonna go wild. I'm sure there'll be a

1696
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,680
step but yeah, after the match classic oh hands up

1697
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:25,640
and then they turn on him, which I found interesting

1698
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,439
and I'm not saying dislike her life, but that uh

1699
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:32,319
Shabata and will turn as well. Will. I wasn't surprised,

1700
01:15:32,319 --> 01:15:34,319
but I thought Shabata might kind of be like, oh,

1701
01:15:34,359 --> 01:15:37,079
I don't know about this, but not he just turned.

1702
01:15:37,079 --> 01:15:38,560
And like I said, I don't know when Shabbata has

1703
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:40,920
been a heel last because he was injured for so

1704
01:15:41,039 --> 01:15:42,800
long and he's just been with AW so I really

1705
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:43,239
don't know.

1706
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:47,159
Speaker 2: But yeah, I really like the Joe and Hangman match.

1707
01:15:47,239 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 1: Thought. I like the finish of what a way to

1708
01:15:50,079 --> 01:15:51,760
you know, maybe I'm not sure if it goes into

1709
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,560
S pubs sbubs when you talk about the Cody wrote

1710
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,680
with the Storm zero and then the Crossroads. Is it

1711
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,399
just that it's it's kicked out right as far as

1712
01:16:00,399 --> 01:16:00,880
the week.

1713
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:02,560
Speaker 3: And yeah, okay, good.

1714
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 4: They do it like MultiMate, like like like Tony will

1715
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:07,520
do the Storm zero like three or four times in

1716
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,039
a match like outmatch. Now, unless you's just fighting like

1717
01:16:10,399 --> 01:16:12,640
the Java of All jobbers.

1718
01:16:12,359 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 1: Well that's good then because at least Hangman didn't pin

1719
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,199
him after all those but he hit him with three

1720
01:16:16,199 --> 01:16:18,159
buckshot laryats, which I think was good because it like

1721
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:20,560
puts over Joe was a big tough guy and stuff.

1722
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:22,439
So I thought that was really good. But they did

1723
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:25,039
the heel turn. We kind of exactly expected this finish

1724
01:16:25,199 --> 01:16:26,479
was gonna go. I think we thought it was gonna

1725
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,000
be more of a like a fluke win for Hangman,

1726
01:16:29,039 --> 01:16:31,039
but he did, which I was kind of surprised because yeah,

1727
01:16:31,039 --> 01:16:33,039
he's just like Joe, like he just beat you.

1728
01:16:33,039 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 2: He didn't cheat, he didn't roll up. He's just like

1729
01:16:35,319 --> 01:16:36,119
clean pin you.

1730
01:16:36,279 --> 01:16:38,520
Speaker 6: So the heel turns like a little week that makes

1731
01:16:39,079 --> 01:16:42,520
matter if yes, like if she was saying like, oh,

1732
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,359
like you never beat me and then he just beat

1733
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,520
him clean, Like yeah.

1734
01:16:46,359 --> 01:16:49,520
Speaker 4: That makes him more angry unless you like, I mean.

1735
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 1: So why would Will and Shabbata turn though, And it's

1736
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:52,520
just like you just got beat them?

1737
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 2: You know, yeah they're just his friends. Yeah, sure I'll

1738
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:55,960
do this.

1739
01:16:56,279 --> 01:16:58,119
Speaker 1: But then yeah, so they turned them heel on the

1740
01:16:58,159 --> 01:17:01,279
second then like okay, so yeah, hurt syndicates winning those

1741
01:17:01,319 --> 01:17:03,720
Now it all makes sense of the quick Oh it's

1742
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:07,319
number one contenders match, like it all goes together wise.

1743
01:17:07,319 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 4: So I looked up for Shevada, Like, you know, there's

1744
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,760
a site SmackDown Hotel that has like a bunch of

1745
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,279
information on wrestlers, and like every time turn heel and

1746
01:17:16,359 --> 01:17:19,520
face oph because the last time he was heal was

1747
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,880
from January fourth, two thousand and three to September three,

1748
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:23,920
two thousand and four.

1749
01:17:24,199 --> 01:17:27,159
Speaker 1: Jeez, I thought it was maybe like two thousand and

1750
01:17:27,159 --> 01:17:30,119
seven and eight because I was not fully watching man.

1751
01:17:30,279 --> 01:17:33,359
So it's been twenty one, twenty one to twenty two

1752
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,880
years since this man has been a heel. That's a

1753
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:37,920
crazy not like not saying he's gonna go on an

1754
01:17:38,039 --> 01:17:40,399
MGF run, but I was just that's what caught me

1755
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,319
off guard that Shabata.

1756
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 2: Was heel all of a sudden, you know.

1757
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,520
Speaker 1: So, uh yeah, I guess the Hurt SENNI it's go

1758
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,159
win the trios and we're gonna get a fucking Hurt

1759
01:17:49,199 --> 01:17:51,720
Senegate Trios title match every time at least. Hey, if

1760
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,640
you really want those trio titles on pay per view,

1761
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,359
you're gonna get him now because Bobby and Crew has

1762
01:17:56,399 --> 01:17:58,880
to be on there. But uh yeah, so that was

1763
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:00,520
my thought, like that in Matt Hurts.

1764
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:04,600
Speaker 4: Because people say, like the Hurts syndicate, like they're slowly

1765
01:18:05,239 --> 01:18:08,680
pushing them down the card like it started last like

1766
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:13,359
first Hurts in Nick matches, like lastly going over Swerve clean.

1767
01:18:13,239 --> 01:18:15,560
Speaker 1: Up a big tel match, and then.

1768
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:18,079
Speaker 4: They went into tag titles and they just lost them

1769
01:18:18,079 --> 01:18:21,279
in like that where the New Japan then just attacked

1770
01:18:21,359 --> 01:18:25,479
them of ricking. Now they're going Trio's title. They're like

1771
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,960
they're like like three months from now, they're going to

1772
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,920
be the the r O H six man tag title

1773
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,000
Holder's a well, if they're even in the company by then,

1774
01:18:34,039 --> 01:18:34,840
I guess.

1775
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are your thoughts on all this, David, As

1776
01:18:37,399 --> 01:18:41,000
far as hurt syndicate, Joe turned Joe match, everything like that.

1777
01:18:41,399 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 3: The match was a match. I will the more that

1778
01:18:45,039 --> 01:18:48,840
I watched Bobby Lashley, the more I hate his spear now.

1779
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,600
Speaker 2: That I have It's like a roll.

1780
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 1: He just he just rolls. It's like a cannibal.

1781
01:18:53,279 --> 01:18:56,399
Speaker 3: But he barely touches them as well, Like it's kind

1782
01:18:56,399 --> 01:19:00,439
of like, yeah, I get now, almost like a lariat

1783
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,800
to the stomach rather than an actual spere.

1784
01:19:04,199 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 4: I understand it more now, but at the same time,

1785
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:09,600
it makes it worse because the idea is like the

1786
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,399
impact of him like like pushing his shoulder and so

1787
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:15,000
hard is like that's like the tackle. But then the

1788
01:19:15,079 --> 01:19:18,239
reason it's worse now is because on that on the

1789
01:19:18,319 --> 01:19:21,239
spear that bron Breaker did to car Leado where he

1790
01:19:21,319 --> 01:19:24,000
ran all the way down the ramp. He flipped, but

1791
01:19:24,239 --> 01:19:27,359
like the real version of what Lastly Fake's doing.

1792
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, serious is so hard that.

1793
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:32,239
Speaker 4: It like turned him to the side. But Lastly just

1794
01:19:32,279 --> 01:19:33,560
does that like by himself.

1795
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,199
Speaker 1: To me, they look so light yeah him, and have

1796
01:19:36,239 --> 01:19:38,199
a spear off to see which one's worse.

1797
01:19:38,239 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 3: Does the role no matter where he's doing the spear from.

1798
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,880
So it made sense for Broun because Broun was running

1799
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,600
full speed. He's watching himself.

1800
01:19:46,039 --> 01:19:48,039
Speaker 4: Do it from like a foot away and do like

1801
01:19:48,079 --> 01:19:49,279
the yeah.

1802
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,119
Speaker 3: And it's so every time I watch the Spear, I

1803
01:19:52,159 --> 01:19:54,600
hate it more and more, and I'm kind of starting

1804
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:57,159
to agree with I didn't think i'd say this. In

1805
01:19:57,199 --> 01:19:59,479
the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty five, I'm kind

1806
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,159
of starting to I agree with the Undertaker that a

1807
01:20:02,199 --> 01:20:04,840
lot of people should just put the spear away for

1808
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:08,079
a little bit because Braun Superkick, so.

1809
01:20:08,079 --> 01:20:10,399
Speaker 1: Well you should be oh, well, yeah, because Bron But

1810
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,600
just like as far as people using it, it's like

1811
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,760
these movies are so overused, like there's they're they're not

1812
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:18,199
special anymore until like at least Braun makes it special.

1813
01:20:18,239 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 4: But this kick now is just like say, it's like

1814
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:22,479
on the lind Of like.

1815
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 1: A chop, or it's when the transition move.

1816
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 3: Now when the Bucks do it, though, it's fine because

1817
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,920
it's meant to be that they're making fun of the

1818
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,680
fact that it's overused. The whole superkick party thing was

1819
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:36,319
the we're over using it.

1820
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, before every wrestler on Green Earth was starting.

1821
01:20:40,119 --> 01:20:40,520
Speaker 2: To do that.

1822
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 3: But for the people who are seriously like tuning up

1823
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:47,000
the band, here's my tribute to Shaun Michaels. I'm gonna

1824
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,119
give you a super kick. This is gonna end it.

1825
01:20:49,239 --> 01:20:53,399
I'm sorry, Doff Ziggler or Nick Nammath, You're not winning

1826
01:20:53,399 --> 01:20:56,920
off of a super kick. Stop it, like, just give

1827
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,279
it up. And some of these others who are still

1828
01:20:59,279 --> 01:21:03,000
like hitting that super kick and looking for it, it's not happening.

1829
01:21:03,079 --> 01:21:07,000
So the yeah, the match was the match. I am

1830
01:21:07,079 --> 01:21:11,119
not looking forward to the hurt Syndicates Trios run now.

1831
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:15,479
Who knows they could They could get the titles and

1832
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:20,479
then they could very well go on to better themselves,

1833
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,279
maybe having them away from the demand, having them away

1834
01:21:23,279 --> 01:21:27,479
from beating up Ricochet every week. We'll do something better

1835
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,720
to elevate them. But right now, I'm tired of this,

1836
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,319
and my fear is they're gonna win the Trios Champions

1837
01:21:34,359 --> 01:21:36,640
and then they're gonna circle back and be right back

1838
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:38,159
in with the demand all over again.

1839
01:21:39,079 --> 01:21:42,279
Speaker 1: I think there's a good chance you get this match

1840
01:21:42,359 --> 01:21:43,720
one more time in the future.

1841
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:45,520
Speaker 2: I don't know when, but like I I've.

1842
01:21:45,399 --> 01:21:48,039
Speaker 3: Already had it seven times in the last monk.

1843
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:52,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, uh yeah.

1844
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:56,119
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on this situation s bubs the match.

1845
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,079
Speaker 4: I did like the Joe and Hangman match, even though

1846
01:21:59,119 --> 01:22:02,479
there was a few like weird mistakes, like like people

1847
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:06,680
crucified uh you know Mars on NXT for missing that

1848
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,760
moon salt, but she at least like souldans like, oh

1849
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:13,159
I missed hang Man just like straight completely missed Joe

1850
01:22:13,199 --> 01:22:14,840
and then Joe like bumped for it.

1851
01:22:16,199 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 1: Yeah and I forgot Yeah, you remind me the discord Joe,

1852
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:20,720
I think to me, I had to be Joe completely

1853
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,720
fucked up the first moon salt all to the outside

1854
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:27,279
because the that spot of he was supposed.

1855
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 2: To moon salt.

1856
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,199
Speaker 1: Joe moves out the way and then Hangman hits him

1857
01:22:29,239 --> 01:22:32,000
that was supposed to happen first, and the spot later when.

1858
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 4: He's Yeah, because Hangman went up Joe like moved out

1859
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:39,159
of the way because what happens I could seecause Joe

1860
01:22:39,199 --> 01:22:41,399
went for the turnbuckle attack, which was to set up that.

1861
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:43,640
Speaker 1: But you could sell like, oh man, I did that,

1862
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:45,600
like I did the wrong moon Salt spot.

1863
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there. I agree that there was a couple

1864
01:22:48,079 --> 01:22:51,720
of times it was hanging. Lars went what are you doing?

1865
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:52,159
Speaker 1: Man?

1866
01:22:52,239 --> 01:22:54,079
Speaker 2: And like I think it was that pretty.

1867
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:56,600
Speaker 4: Funny because it like it worked on the like sort

1868
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,359
of like the Joe like walks away from stuff, like

1869
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:02,000
just like it is like didn't even let him go

1870
01:23:02,079 --> 01:23:03,960
for it. But yeah, now thinking about him where I

1871
01:23:04,039 --> 01:23:06,920
was like, okay, definitely like like miss timed it.

1872
01:23:07,279 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, let's go. Let's get to the ladies here.

1873
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:15,439
We had Chris Statlander versus Tony Storm. Really liked this match.

1874
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:17,520
I was kind of surprised. I thought they're gonna go

1875
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:19,880
more sexual with it, and they really didn't.

1876
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:21,039
Speaker 2: They did a little bit of the beginning.

1877
01:23:21,039 --> 01:23:24,279
Speaker 1: But what I liked is Statlander had multiple things that

1878
01:23:24,399 --> 01:23:26,640
either I don't know or just haven't seen that much,

1879
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:28,119
or I just like that they're using them.

1880
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:29,680
Speaker 2: I really liked that pin.

1881
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 1: That she beat Tony with the whole like wrapping her

1882
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:33,279
arm around the leg and it's like this weird.

1883
01:23:33,399 --> 01:23:34,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, the seatbelt. I like that.

1884
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:38,119
Speaker 1: When she did the first Vader bomb off the rope

1885
01:23:38,119 --> 01:23:39,520
and then that didn't work, so then she did a

1886
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:42,560
four fifty one. I was like, geez, and I can't remember.

1887
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:46,239
Oh the storm the storm zero counter.

1888
01:23:46,399 --> 01:23:47,319
Speaker 2: That was great.

1889
01:23:47,119 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 1: Because I thought she actually got hit and the way

1890
01:23:49,079 --> 01:23:52,079
she just pounce out of it. So to me, Statlander

1891
01:23:52,199 --> 01:23:54,439
was kind of the star of this match, to be honest,

1892
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:56,600
and Tony put her over clean. Now we know why,

1893
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,680
but put her over clean when like there's no drama, no,

1894
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,079
nothing like that. But no, I thought this was a

1895
01:24:02,119 --> 01:24:04,239
really good match. Now do I think it was? It

1896
01:24:04,239 --> 01:24:06,159
did end up being my match in the night, but

1897
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,520
I don't know where it it. It might be my second.

1898
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:13,359
I actually did really enjoy this one quite a bit.

1899
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:15,479
I thought their styles went on. I agree, you know,

1900
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,640
I suppose you'll probably bring out all throwning you next

1901
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,159
that could I could have given this more time, So

1902
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,560
I gave this one still just a four, but I

1903
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:25,279
still enjoyed it quite a bit. But yeah, maybe it

1904
01:24:25,279 --> 01:24:26,840
didn't end up being the match night like I thought,

1905
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:27,800
so I could agree.

1906
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,239
Speaker 2: There's some more. But yeah, I suppos what were your

1907
01:24:29,239 --> 01:24:29,720
thoughts on this?

1908
01:24:30,199 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had this one like a three point seven

1909
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,840
five because yeah, waiting sort of like to go into

1910
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,920
like that last year I'd say, But I did think

1911
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,279
it was still a good a good match that honestly

1912
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:43,800
liked these two a lot. But yeah, I felt like

1913
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,880
it could have been like bigger, Like this was sort

1914
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:49,560
of like, I don't know, I sort of expected to

1915
01:24:50,319 --> 01:24:52,319
honestly go a longer like I was saying, but I

1916
01:24:52,319 --> 01:24:54,600
don't know. It just it was missing something for me.

1917
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:56,760
I don't know exactly what it was though.

1918
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dave, I will agree that it felt that it

1919
01:25:04,159 --> 01:25:09,880
was just short of something special. It was kind of

1920
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:13,119
slow and not always in a good way. There were

1921
01:25:13,159 --> 01:25:15,880
sometimes there was like methodically slow, and there's other times

1922
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,680
I just felt like, Okay, let's pick up the pace

1923
01:25:19,079 --> 01:25:20,359
just a little bit for.

1924
01:25:20,399 --> 01:25:21,600
Speaker 4: These two ladies.

1925
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:25,079
Speaker 3: Now, I will say, Tony Storm screaming you'll have to

1926
01:25:25,119 --> 01:25:30,680
f and kill me, uh, just amazing. I love everything

1927
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:36,880
about her, from her entrance to the entrance for Statlander

1928
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:41,159
everything else. It was just like, Okay, they had fun.

1929
01:25:41,359 --> 01:25:45,720
I'm happy that Statlander won and will continue, you know,

1930
01:25:46,119 --> 01:25:48,920
defending this title. I think that that was the right cause.

1931
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,239
Plus you know it plays into what happened later. The

1932
01:25:52,399 --> 01:25:56,920
greatest tag team to come in professional wrestling history got

1933
01:25:56,960 --> 01:26:02,039
to form because of this. So I am it was

1934
01:26:02,079 --> 01:26:05,600
a good match. I just can't give it higher than

1935
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:09,279
like a B minus. It was, it was cool, it

1936
01:26:09,399 --> 01:26:12,720
just it wasn't there and it just felt slower at

1937
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:14,000
times than it should have been.

1938
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 1: And then right after that we had like literally raf

1939
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:18,880
that Monette came out because they announced it was gonna

1940
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:20,479
be some sort of segment, so it's gonna be an

1941
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:21,439
open challenge.

1942
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:23,600
Speaker 2: She throws Chris out of there, just did and get

1943
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:25,000
the hell out of my ring, which to tie it

1944
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:25,439
to the end.

1945
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 1: I was very happy at the end, Statlander came back

1946
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:30,319
and embarrassed her beat up for a second there because

1947
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,039
I when she told her to get the ring and

1948
01:26:32,079 --> 01:26:34,880
stant Leander just left, It's like, that's baby face one

1949
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:36,880
on one. You don't you don't do that like that.

1950
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,680
You just look like an idiot then, right, And I.

1951
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 4: Get scared because the thing was it was an open

1952
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,239
challenge for any any champion and their title. I was

1953
01:26:45,239 --> 01:26:47,159
a getting scared. You know, she's about to.

1954
01:26:47,199 --> 01:26:50,359
Speaker 1: Take standing when she said get the hell of the ring.

1955
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:52,720
I thought Stantlander was going to turn around say no,

1956
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:54,960
this is my ring. I'll challenge you, and Monette was

1957
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:56,560
gonna win it right there. I thought it was over,

1958
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:58,920
which still could happen, which you know, we'll talk about

1959
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:02,199
a second. But uh yeah, I was not like like

1960
01:27:02,399 --> 01:27:03,279
overly excited with.

1961
01:27:03,279 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 4: Mina Shakur people on Twitter about it.

1962
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:09,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. I was not enthused.

1963
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing I forget because I think their

1964
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:14,399
best match is still that. It's not Wrestle Kingdom. What's

1965
01:27:14,399 --> 01:27:14,960
the night After?

1966
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,079
Speaker 2: They call it now wrestled.

1967
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 1: Dynasty and aw has a dynasty per review, they got together.

1968
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 2: They should have worked that together.

1969
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 1: But like that to me is still the best one

1970
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,119
they've had some like because they did this and then

1971
01:27:25,119 --> 01:27:27,479
in the bill up to Tony and Money, they did

1972
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:29,920
like a big match on Dynamite. It was like a

1973
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:31,520
second Maine or something like that, and then they did this.

1974
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:34,119
So they've had they've run this three times now in

1975
01:27:34,159 --> 01:27:36,000
a year. And the good thing is once this match

1976
01:27:36,079 --> 01:27:37,960
and I was like, right, these girls, like or women,

1977
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,319
they do have really good chemistry together. So by the

1978
01:27:40,399 --> 01:27:42,680
end I was locked in and into it. But the

1979
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:44,520
problem was we knew which way it was going. It

1980
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:47,279
felt very random. It does make sense now as far

1981
01:27:47,319 --> 01:27:50,079
as we even said for multiple reasons, Money is probably

1982
01:27:50,119 --> 01:27:52,319
winning a title tonight in England. So it's like, well

1983
01:27:52,399 --> 01:27:55,239
they just wanted to like get or Doningland's somewhere, but

1984
01:27:55,359 --> 01:27:58,399
like Tony won the big Ultimo Dragon moment on his show,

1985
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,199
and then also after this, we got Tony Amina getting

1986
01:28:01,279 --> 01:28:03,800
right together for their tag team, which I don't I

1987
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:06,000
don't think anyone's thinking they're gonna they're at least getting

1988
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:07,880
in the finals, but like I think they're gonna win

1989
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:08,800
it one hundred percent.

1990
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:10,359
Speaker 2: Tony can be the first tag.

1991
01:28:10,159 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 4: Team I've written down a potential because they showed the

1992
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:17,000
bracket is four brackets, so i'd be eight teams. I

1993
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:20,960
have seven teams written down of potential people who are

1994
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:22,039
probably in this tournament.

1995
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 1: Okay, and it's supposed to be it's supposed to be

1996
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:25,640
eighteen bracket.

1997
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,119
Speaker 4: Like they showed the thing where it's like they said

1998
01:28:28,159 --> 01:28:31,119
on Dynamite, the bracket's going to be announcement in the background

1999
01:28:31,319 --> 01:28:33,680
in the image you would see you saw like the

2000
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:35,680
tournament bracket was four brackets.

2001
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,560
Speaker 2: Okay, what are the teams you got, then we'll go there.

2002
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,239
Speaker 4: Right now, I'm predicting are probably going to be in this,

2003
01:28:41,359 --> 01:28:44,119
and I only got seven, but I think the eighth

2004
01:28:44,199 --> 01:28:47,159
will probably be like a team from like Stardom or

2005
01:28:47,239 --> 01:28:50,680
CMLL or something like that. Yeah. The teams I've got

2006
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:55,560
are Athena and Billy Starks, Yeah, Willow and Harley Cameron.

2007
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:56,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2008
01:28:56,279 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 4: I think Jamie Hayter and either Alex Winsor or on

2009
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:02,439
any I.

2010
01:29:02,399 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 1: Think the Pope press or they talked about that, and

2011
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,079
I think Jamie Hayter was kind of alluding that.

2012
01:29:06,239 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 2: That would make sense.

2013
01:29:07,039 --> 01:29:08,560
Speaker 1: Why Al'm and I just like, I know she's been

2014
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:10,479
feuding with Tecla, but it felt so around with Jamie

2015
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:12,880
one and I'm gonna just popped up like good job,

2016
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:13,920
like out.

2017
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,319
Speaker 2: Of nowhere, just like her friend. But yeah, I believe that. Yeah.

2018
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:20,600
Speaker 4: Then Meghan Bain and Penelpe Yeah, of course. Yeah, Julia

2019
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:27,640
Hard and Sky Blue, yep, TJ Tony Storm and Mina Yeah.

2020
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:29,720
And then that's seven and eight I think will be

2021
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:33,720
a team from Stardom or CMOO or something. Yeah.

2022
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:35,520
Speaker 1: Then or if they have some other aw women that

2023
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:38,600
aren't around doing anything right now, right, But no, I

2024
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:42,439
agree all those other people are in there, but yeah, yeah, no,

2025
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:45,920
like unless to me, it's like Dakota Kai and somebody, right,

2026
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:48,239
because we talked about before and the discord work has

2027
01:29:48,279 --> 01:29:49,039
gone some gear.

2028
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:52,600
Speaker 4: Made like the former Caden Carter.

2029
01:29:53,079 --> 01:29:56,680
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah you could do that. So but yeah,

2030
01:29:56,720 --> 01:30:00,479
what were your thoughts on? Uh mean, I.

2031
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:04,520
Speaker 4: Hear I honestly, I really really like this smatch, I'll say,

2032
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:07,359
I say, I maybe even liked it more than than

2033
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:11,119
Tony and Statland. I really liked this on a lot,

2034
01:30:11,159 --> 01:30:13,399
And like you were saying, like, yeah, like you weren't

2035
01:30:13,399 --> 01:30:16,399
that into it because like you thought there was no chance. Honestly,

2036
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:18,720
by the end, I was. I was believing they were

2037
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:21,239
making me believe that that Mina was gonna do it.

2038
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:24,039
But but she the you know, in hindsight, I thought,

2039
01:30:24,039 --> 01:30:28,199
obviously this is where Mercedes is winning the eleventh title.

2040
01:30:28,239 --> 01:30:29,960
But honestly, near the end of that, that's why I said,

2041
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:32,199
I wish there was five more minutes because the near

2042
01:30:32,279 --> 01:30:35,680
falls near the end were really getting me, especially I

2043
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:39,560
forget there was some some move that Mina got up.

2044
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:42,399
It was like, did she get like a rope break

2045
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:45,079
on like the mo name maker or something like a

2046
01:30:45,199 --> 01:30:47,479
big it's a big near fall that I was like, oh,

2047
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:50,119
like she might actually she might actually win it here,

2048
01:30:50,159 --> 01:30:53,079
but I really enjoyed snatch. I'd probably give it. I mean,

2049
01:30:53,239 --> 01:30:55,439
on drop kick, I gave it like a three point

2050
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:57,640
cent five, but if I could get like, I don't know,

2051
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:00,439
three point eight five just to say, I like slightly

2052
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:02,840
more than than the other one. But I thought this

2053
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:04,640
was really fun mentionally. And yeah, like you said, I

2054
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:08,239
think the match they had on Dynamite was was okay.

2055
01:31:08,399 --> 01:31:10,000
I think because that one was like one that she

2056
01:31:10,199 --> 01:31:13,199
was like definitely definitely not winning because it was the

2057
01:31:13,239 --> 01:31:15,760
one like right before all in yeah, and yeah, the

2058
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,720
the Wrestle Dynasty match, I remember that one also being good.

2059
01:31:19,119 --> 01:31:23,000
And that one also Mercedes won like two titles off

2060
01:31:23,039 --> 01:31:25,680
of her in the Wrestle Dynasty.

2061
01:31:25,279 --> 01:31:28,039
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, she keeps taking titles from this woman. My god,

2062
01:31:28,159 --> 01:31:28,359
you know.

2063
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:32,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, but but yeah, I enjoyed it, even though yeah,

2064
01:31:32,119 --> 01:31:35,439
people were mad it was Mina. That was just Mina.

2065
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,479
But but I like Mena I've been close to again,

2066
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:41,119
and there's a there's a Mina sure on aw shop.

2067
01:31:41,319 --> 01:31:44,239
I'm I'm circling on it.

2068
01:31:43,359 --> 01:31:47,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and before I throw the David what is

2069
01:31:47,359 --> 01:31:50,000
the because we seem like whether it's a dynamite or

2070
01:31:50,039 --> 01:31:53,560
maybe full gear, that money and Statland is happening. What

2071
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:55,279
was that theory you were teasing in the opening of

2072
01:31:55,319 --> 01:31:57,279
the show that people are saying, why this is happening

2073
01:31:57,319 --> 01:32:00,720
now because I have not seen Yeah.

2074
01:32:00,199 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is like from one from like one

2075
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,159
of the accounts. It's like one of the biggest like

2076
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:09,760
Mercedes fans. But his theory pretty much was like other

2077
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:13,560
than like like the reason this TVs title reign is

2078
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:16,039
going so long and like she lost the world title

2079
01:32:16,079 --> 01:32:18,800
shot is like they don't want to put the world

2080
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:21,880
title on her unless they're one hundred percent sure she's

2081
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:26,279
resigning because the contract is supposedly up, like it would

2082
01:32:26,319 --> 01:32:30,520
be pretty much like January first. Let's say like twenty

2083
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:34,279
twenty seven, so full next year and then VF because

2084
01:32:34,279 --> 01:32:39,199
they wouldn't want like another like Mariah situation. That's the

2085
01:32:39,199 --> 01:32:41,800
theory from the Mercedes fans that they're they're not giving

2086
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:45,159
her the world title yet unless they're one hundred percent

2087
01:32:45,159 --> 01:32:46,359
sure she's resigning.

2088
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 1: Maybe it was like twenty twenty six, I could buy them,

2089
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:50,920
but twenty twenty seven's like what's gonna haveter she wins

2090
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:52,640
the world title for like three to four months and

2091
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:55,359
drops to somebody, you know, it's not gonna affect anything really,

2092
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:55,960
but you.

2093
01:32:55,920 --> 01:33:00,600
Speaker 4: Know, yeah, that's the supposed theory, which I mean I

2094
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:05,319
could see. I guess like Tony sort of thinking like, yeah,

2095
01:33:05,399 --> 01:33:07,119
not Storm, but I would tell no.

2096
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 1: I would tell Tony just like, don't worry about you

2097
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:11,560
want Strapper, Just Strapper.

2098
01:33:11,199 --> 01:33:15,520
Speaker 4: For Stalander at full gear.

2099
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:19,199
Speaker 1: I don't think so. But I can't say one hundred

2100
01:33:19,199 --> 01:33:21,800
percent because stat Leander finally can beat her. But I

2101
01:33:22,199 --> 01:33:24,119
do agree with some people that like, Okay, the next

2102
01:33:24,159 --> 01:33:27,359
time Money goes for the world title, she she's gotta

2103
01:33:27,359 --> 01:33:29,399
wait it because then it just kind of feels, you know,

2104
01:33:29,399 --> 01:33:31,920
which which there. I guess there's a story there, like

2105
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:34,039
she's kind of cursed anytime she goes for that title

2106
01:33:34,079 --> 01:33:34,680
she can't win it.

2107
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:37,319
Speaker 2: But I do think if I had to predict, yeah,

2108
01:33:37,319 --> 01:33:38,159
i'd say stant.

2109
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 4: Lander would yeah Stlanders and beat yeah.

2110
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:46,359
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I like the match. I thought it was

2111
01:33:46,399 --> 01:33:49,039
better than I expect you to be. I thought at

2112
01:33:49,079 --> 01:33:51,760
first we were going to get a swerve. When Statlander

2113
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:54,960
started to walk away, I thought when Mercedes was like,

2114
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:57,000
all right, who's going to be my challenger. They were

2115
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:58,960
going to hit Statlander's music and she was going to

2116
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:01,279
turn around and walk back to the ring. I thought

2117
01:34:01,319 --> 01:34:05,039
that would have just been hilarious as like a because

2118
01:34:05,079 --> 01:34:07,760
I didn't feel right with the babyface just yeah getting

2119
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:09,760
out the ring. She told you to get out, You

2120
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:13,319
just got out. I did wonder if maybe they would

2121
01:34:13,359 --> 01:34:17,359
pull out because IWGP just had a new women's champion

2122
01:34:17,399 --> 01:34:21,359
crown less than a week ago, if maybe they would

2123
01:34:21,359 --> 01:34:23,960
do something with that. I wasn't thinking Mina, but it

2124
01:34:24,399 --> 01:34:28,399
makes sense. You don't want your IWGP champ women's champion

2125
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:32,920
to lose almost immediately. But you could have done something

2126
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:36,960
where Rio or somebody else who Mercedes has had issues

2127
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:41,439
with runs in and the match ends without a championship

2128
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:46,479
being changing hands. But it was a cool, fun match. Yeah,

2129
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:49,199
that that near fall, that finger out to the rope

2130
01:34:49,279 --> 01:34:53,800
thing like, those were fun moments. I think it did

2131
01:34:54,239 --> 01:35:00,000
from a wrestling standpoint and a story selling a storytelling standpoint.

2132
01:35:00,279 --> 01:35:03,199
I do think it did slightly better than the Tony

2133
01:35:03,239 --> 01:35:09,159
Starr match because facial expressions were just crazy, like you

2134
01:35:09,199 --> 01:35:13,640
could tell she was determined that she was getting another championship,

2135
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:18,760
and Mina the way that she emotes is fun as well.

2136
01:35:19,319 --> 01:35:21,520
I think it's the right call because again what we

2137
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:24,039
set up later it was just it was a fun match.

2138
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, we speaking of a fun match.

2139
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:30,760
Speaker 1: This match I teased five Stars bro Dido versus Don

2140
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:33,000
Cow's Family, which is O caught and takesha. I will

2141
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,399
take back what I said last week as I this

2142
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:37,159
isn't need to be They should be on Dynamite. We

2143
01:35:37,199 --> 01:35:39,840
know the story they did do the whole oh they're

2144
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:43,000
gonna break up and fight everything like that. They only

2145
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:45,560
did a few times match, but the way they paced it,

2146
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:48,039
and for me it's the last like seven minutes' match,

2147
01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:51,399
crazy spot after crazy spot. I know we've seen the

2148
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:54,560
multiple German suplex thing, but the way they did it here,

2149
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:57,479
the way Bendy almost didn't like it, almost added to

2150
01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:01,319
it looked more dangerous. I just there are so many

2151
01:36:01,359 --> 01:36:05,800
good spots in this win. Takeshta new Japan Pro Wrestling

2152
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:11,560
IWGP TA keshta champion. When he barrel roll slammed Brodie King,

2153
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:14,039
I could not believe that he picked up this dude,

2154
01:36:14,239 --> 01:36:15,800
even though caught at one point he did like that

2155
01:36:16,079 --> 01:36:16,760
put it on.

2156
01:36:17,039 --> 01:36:19,399
Speaker 4: The thing about that is like, I'm pretty sure, he

2157
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:21,479
already did it on Dynamite like last week.

2158
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:24,600
Speaker 1: Oh then I missed it. That's an incredible feet of strength.

2159
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:26,439
And even O caught it too. He did like the

2160
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:28,079
I can't remember what he calls the movie. When he

2161
01:36:28,119 --> 01:36:30,000
holds something, he does like hits her knee over the head.

2162
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:33,319
It's like these these guys super strong for guys that

2163
01:36:33,319 --> 01:36:35,279
aren't like super jacked or anything. That just shows, like,

2164
01:36:35,399 --> 01:36:39,239
you know, HiT's strong style. Literally, but no, this match, man.

2165
01:36:39,279 --> 01:36:41,760
I said this before Brodo versus Bucks on Dynamite a

2166
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:44,000
few I think it's like last month was incredible and

2167
01:36:44,039 --> 01:36:47,039
this was incredible again. I know they're probably gonna lose

2168
01:36:47,039 --> 01:36:49,119
the FTR soon, but I really don't want that. I'd

2169
01:36:49,199 --> 01:36:51,760
rather now just edgend Christian FTR be another grudge match

2170
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:54,680
with something. I'm loving the Brodio run. That crowd was

2171
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:58,079
on fire, eyes on fire. I never thought that actually,

2172
01:36:58,199 --> 01:36:59,560
I think, like you were saying in the mean thing,

2173
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:02,199
there's like a moment I actually thought they were gonna win.

2174
01:37:02,199 --> 01:37:03,800
I can't remember what the sequence was, but there was

2175
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:07,199
a near falling like it is over and I love

2176
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:09,960
the Occada rain maker and he hitched a cash to

2177
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:10,880
the second hit him.

2178
01:37:11,159 --> 01:37:11,680
Speaker 2: Just smile.

2179
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:14,159
Speaker 1: Not this like the she's like, oh I'm sorry, like

2180
01:37:14,239 --> 01:37:16,079
not any of this. It's just like he was laughing.

2181
01:37:16,079 --> 01:37:17,560
And that wasn't the direct end of the match too.

2182
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:19,840
Went on for a couple more minutes. But I loved

2183
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:21,880
everything about this match in a match that I thought

2184
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:25,399
was I wasn't gonna love and actually was the longest

2185
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:29,680
match of the night too, a suny.

2186
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:32,560
Speaker 4: Like like rewatch, because the start of it, I was like,

2187
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:35,399
pretty tune now, and then by the end when they

2188
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:37,840
started like really going into him, like, oh, this match

2189
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:40,600
is actually like Ocada is actually working out there.

2190
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:41,079
Speaker 1: He did.

2191
01:37:41,199 --> 01:37:42,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was working.

2192
01:37:42,199 --> 01:37:44,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was moving, he was taking like dive bumps

2193
01:37:44,399 --> 01:37:46,760
and everything like that. I couldn't believe it. So and

2194
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:49,319
we got him versus Bandido on Wednesday. But yeah, this

2195
01:37:49,359 --> 01:37:51,479
match was incredible. I gave I gave this a five

2196
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:53,520
star just on a technical enjoyment.

2197
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:54,079
Speaker 4: Loved.

2198
01:37:54,079 --> 01:37:55,640
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be my match here, but it's

2199
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:58,680
gonna be in that category. And I love Brodido. Man.

2200
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:01,319
They for a team that I didn't care a Bandil's

2201
01:38:01,359 --> 01:38:03,920
just had a good year overall. But yeah, David, what

2202
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:04,720
do you think about this one?

2203
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:10,840
Speaker 3: I thought this was a fun match, especially the ending.

2204
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:13,520
Like you said, like they they turned it on at

2205
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:17,159
the end, and I was like, oh wow, they this

2206
01:38:17,399 --> 01:38:21,600
is everything that I've been seeing out of Brodie Kingham Bandido,

2207
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,199
like the Brodido Tech team has just been fun. It's

2208
01:38:24,239 --> 01:38:26,279
been way more fun than I ever assumed it's gonna

2209
01:38:26,279 --> 01:38:28,840
Be's lasted longer than I expected it to, and they've

2210
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:32,359
been putting on some good matches. And now to get

2211
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:36,600
the fallout of this coming out Wednesday with Bandido and

2212
01:38:37,119 --> 01:38:41,760
like yes please and then seeing Tiquestaa as IWGP champions

2213
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:43,800
something that we've been talking about probably for about a

2214
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:46,960
year now. This is happening. This is happening. Let's give

2215
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:50,000
us some time. This is happening. Yeah, everything about this.

2216
01:38:50,239 --> 01:38:55,239
It was a good match, hard hitting match, and as

2217
01:38:55,359 --> 01:38:58,279
much as I don't like almost any and everything to

2218
01:38:58,359 --> 01:39:01,960
do with the don Kallis family, these two I absolutely love.

2219
01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:05,039
Like if you could just take them out of all

2220
01:39:05,079 --> 01:39:09,600
of that and just put their little uh frenemy situation

2221
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:13,159
outside of all that, then yeah, no, I'm here for it.

2222
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:15,840
Speaker 4: I guess something that we can talk about since we

2223
01:39:16,159 --> 01:39:20,000
certain mentioned like we were talking about maybe it's Takeshta

2224
01:39:20,039 --> 01:39:23,600
and Okada at Wrestler Kingdom. We can also tie this

2225
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:27,800
sort of into the the whole rumors of Knakamura and

2226
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:32,479
tana Hashi, which made me think, like because because people

2227
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:35,840
have been saying like, oh, maybe like Tanahashi's retirement could

2228
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:38,800
main event, but then what if it's like would you

2229
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:43,399
have like let's say, like for the sake like Knockimore

2230
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:46,640
isn't like a W guy, but like it'd be like,

2231
01:39:47,039 --> 01:39:50,159
would you have tana Hashi and a guy made an

2232
01:39:50,159 --> 01:39:53,319
event over like two a W guys? If if one

2233
01:39:53,359 --> 01:39:55,960
of them has the new Japan title, I think.

2234
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:58,119
Speaker 1: So yeah, just because it's ton of just because it's

2235
01:39:58,279 --> 01:40:00,399
uh yeah, a ton of hashy, Like that's the only

2236
01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:02,439
reason why it's like the scene a thing, I think.

2237
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:05,279
Speaker 3: And if they do two nights like they have been

2238
01:40:05,359 --> 01:40:09,960
doing for a while, then Tanahashi needs to main event

2239
01:40:10,159 --> 01:40:13,920
whichever night is on the fourth. So if they do

2240
01:40:14,039 --> 01:40:16,600
the fourth and the fifth, he needs to do whatever

2241
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:20,960
night is on the fourth, because the fourth has always

2242
01:40:21,079 --> 01:40:23,680
been traditionally the day before they switched it to the

2243
01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:27,079
two day event, it was the fourth, So if he's

2244
01:40:27,159 --> 01:40:29,159
going to main event when it needs to be on

2245
01:40:29,279 --> 01:40:31,880
the night of the fourth, give him that respect. I

2246
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:34,159
think he's earned it, and I think, yeah, you could

2247
01:40:34,239 --> 01:40:36,920
easily close out that, And I think that that would

2248
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:39,680
be more meaningful to the crowd than seeing Takesh and

2249
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:41,960
Okada as much as they love those As much as

2250
01:40:42,239 --> 01:40:46,000
Okada took over for Tanahashi as the new ace of

2251
01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:51,920
New Japan Pro Wrestling, it's still Tanahashi's. He's still so

2252
01:40:52,159 --> 01:40:55,000
beloved there. And then to have Knakamora come back. You

2253
01:40:55,159 --> 01:40:58,079
saw the reception that he got when he went to

2254
01:40:58,239 --> 01:41:00,720
Noah and when he went to other places within Japan.

2255
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:02,800
He's got that in his contract where he can work

2256
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:05,840
those Japanese dates. So yeah, let that happen.

2257
01:41:06,399 --> 01:41:08,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think if it's too nice too, because because

2258
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:12,199
last year Zach Sayer Junior defended on both nights, I

2259
01:41:12,279 --> 01:41:17,039
could see like Takeshta versus someone like on the fourth,

2260
01:41:17,199 --> 01:41:20,199
and then you do him versus Okada's me on the

2261
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:21,039
on the fifth.

2262
01:41:21,319 --> 01:41:23,680
Speaker 1: That's I think too, because Wressell Dynasty's almost there forbidden

2263
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:25,880
door right where it's like we got a w on.

2264
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:29,119
Speaker 4: There announced to Wrestle Dynasty. Yeah, that's true, but I

2265
01:41:29,159 --> 01:41:31,720
don't remember when they announced it last year either, I mean,

2266
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:33,199
I feel like it must have been enough they're wanted

2267
01:41:33,239 --> 01:41:35,720
to sell tickets for unless they're not doing it this year.

2268
01:41:36,039 --> 01:41:38,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, if they're not, then I think that it's like

2269
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:40,760
the second main event, like I think Tomash she goes

2270
01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:42,359
on last. If they are doing it, then yeah, I

2271
01:41:42,359 --> 01:41:44,479
think and especially because that next night is the more

2272
01:41:45,359 --> 01:41:48,840
forbidden door, like a it's like a semi crossover show,

2273
01:41:49,159 --> 01:41:50,239
you know, So I think.

2274
01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:51,720
Speaker 2: That I think that's the method there.

2275
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:53,479
Speaker 1: And I feel like that because I just don't know

2276
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:55,600
who that's what you're from New Japan fans that for

2277
01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:58,399
dakesh right now doesn't look like there's like a huge

2278
01:41:58,439 --> 01:41:59,840
like that would main event.

2279
01:42:00,079 --> 01:42:05,760
Speaker 2: Wrestled, don't right they were or the with o'conna that

2280
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:06,159
could be.

2281
01:42:06,239 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 1: It's just like a little weird, but at the same time,

2282
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:11,039
its history there makes it make sense. So or you know,

2283
01:42:11,159 --> 01:42:15,000
you can always give him, you know, the King John

2284
01:42:15,079 --> 01:42:17,640
Moxley at least start. What do you what are your

2285
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:20,560
thoughts on him versus derby the match?

2286
01:42:22,079 --> 01:42:25,199
Speaker 4: This match, Like I was, I was pretty disappointed by it,

2287
01:42:25,319 --> 01:42:28,560
to be honest, Like I felt like there's a lot

2288
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:31,319
of stuff like sort of missing from I don't know,

2289
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:34,319
it felt like this had all been building up obviously,

2290
01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:37,319
like this was the match, like we've been saying it

2291
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:40,039
like for the like even the casket match. It's like, oh,

2292
01:42:40,199 --> 01:42:42,479
like they're just saving it for the last match. But

2293
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:44,840
I feel like I don't know it did. It just

2294
01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:47,159
didn't really hit for me, Like they didn't do the

2295
01:42:47,239 --> 01:42:50,880
fire even though the whole build Yeah they built the fire.

2296
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:55,840
No blood. I felt like it was mostly just like

2297
01:42:56,399 --> 01:42:59,720
it was just like Moxley would like do something to Derby.

2298
01:43:00,359 --> 01:43:03,760
Then they would like finish your spam. Then like the

2299
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:06,399
death Riders just like came in and like beat him up.

2300
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:09,880
They did the stuff with the water, but like obnesotly,

2301
01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:13,119
like no moves are being done through this. It's just

2302
01:43:13,319 --> 01:43:15,840
like this like a like death Rider cinema.

2303
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:19,119
Speaker 1: Here I did. I did think he was gonna paradigm

2304
01:43:19,199 --> 01:43:21,359
shift him on the glass. I'm glad they didn't, but

2305
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:21,840
I thought his.

2306
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:24,720
Speaker 2: Darby so crazy. I thought it was coming and it didn't.

2307
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:28,079
Speaker 4: But this thing shows up, you know, it hits them

2308
01:43:28,159 --> 01:43:31,479
with the bat and stuff. Yeah, and then you know,

2309
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:35,239
MASSI just just quits to the sharpshooter. I felt like

2310
01:43:35,319 --> 01:43:38,479
it was like the Oestly was like the big like

2311
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:42,279
story conclusion, but as a match, I felt like like

2312
01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:44,680
not much really happened in the actual match.

2313
01:43:45,119 --> 01:43:47,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you on the finish with it,

2314
01:43:47,279 --> 01:43:50,560
Like I get the symbolism with it being the yeah

2315
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:53,800
scorpion death lock and everything like that, and yeah, at

2316
01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:55,720
first I thought they were gonna go really crazy when

2317
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:57,600
they were doing the skewers to the nails and other

2318
01:43:57,640 --> 01:43:59,920
stuff and even the waters like okay and I plug

2319
01:44:00,079 --> 01:44:00,399
the water.

2320
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:04,119
Speaker 4: It's like that they couldn't like like bleed because of

2321
01:44:04,279 --> 01:44:07,479
like the commission and stuff. But in that case, like

2322
01:44:08,119 --> 01:44:10,640
don't you should have done this this match on on

2323
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:11,800
all out instead?

2324
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:15,880
Speaker 2: Like I agree, Oh, I'll bring that up after him.

2325
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:18,520
Speaker 4: And no fire to like really that was my biggest discipline,

2326
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:20,800
like no fire like they did the lightning fluid.

2327
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:24,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I don't know how they didn't do fire.

2328
01:44:24,359 --> 01:44:26,680
Speaker 4: It ended up just being like I have at like

2329
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:28,920
a like a three out of five, Like it was

2330
01:44:29,039 --> 01:44:32,119
just like an all right, cause like I said, it's

2331
01:44:32,159 --> 01:44:35,359
not much. It's like rating like the like the John

2332
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:38,880
Cna Fiend like Firefly fun House match, like there was

2333
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:41,920
like like they didn't they didn't really wrestle at all

2334
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:44,159
in this match, was was my opinion of it.

2335
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:50,479
Speaker 3: Darby Allen reminds me of a Marvel superhero in the

2336
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:53,880
fact that where the hell is everyone when this big

2337
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:57,960
fight is going on? Like, oh yeah, that is much

2338
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:01,720
like for Darby to b so beloved? Where the hell

2339
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:04,319
is everyone with these big fights are going on? And

2340
01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:06,680
that just reminds me like when it comes to Marvel,

2341
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:09,760
like New York is burning where they're fantastic for where

2342
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:11,199
are all these other people who live here?

2343
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:12,560
Speaker 1: Like That's the thing.

2344
01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, Sting, Grandpa Sting is the now. Granted I'm

2345
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:20,079
a Sting fan for five straight years, I painted my

2346
01:45:20,159 --> 01:45:22,600
face and went as Sting for Halloween, like I am

2347
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:25,920
a Sting guy through and through. I have no apologies.

2348
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:29,319
Whether it was white paint, red paint, or multi colored paint,

2349
01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:30,600
I was Sting.

2350
01:45:31,119 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 4: So like.

2351
01:45:34,079 --> 01:45:37,960
Speaker 3: Sting was my guy. So I get that. But Grandpa

2352
01:45:38,039 --> 01:45:40,720
Sting is the only person to help you, and I thought, maybe, okay,

2353
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:43,119
Daniel Brian's not on commentary, and the reason he's not

2354
01:45:43,199 --> 01:45:45,199
on commentary is because he's gonna do a running later

2355
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:47,520
and they didn't want to make it weird with him

2356
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:51,960
leaving the commentary table. Like cool, I got that Nope,

2357
01:45:52,279 --> 01:45:55,159
no one wants to help this man. He's you couldn't

2358
01:45:55,199 --> 01:45:59,039
even get like the anti climatic. The crowd doesn't care

2359
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:04,520
thing in the sky like, you know, to go back

2360
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:07,520
to your point earlier as Bubbs who has the worst charisma.

2361
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:11,279
It's probably hooked because no one reacts to that stupid

2362
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:12,600
light in the sky.

2363
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:19,000
Speaker 2: With the show three minute matches.

2364
01:46:20,199 --> 01:46:22,439
Speaker 3: But yeah, so that was my thing. The match itself,

2365
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:25,199
it was fine. The spots are fine. I do hate

2366
01:46:25,359 --> 01:46:31,039
the bamboo skewer spot. Even though they didn't go as

2367
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:33,399
far out as I thought that they would.

2368
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:36,800
Speaker 4: I don't think they poked as hard.

2369
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:42,239
Speaker 3: Ye Saint Louis said no, but and in this instance

2370
01:46:42,279 --> 01:46:44,520
I'm glad that they did because I'm not really a

2371
01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:46,119
fan of that spot.

2372
01:46:46,359 --> 01:46:47,720
Speaker 1: But other than that, yeah, it.

2373
01:46:48,039 --> 01:46:53,039
Speaker 3: Was a match. The the going out in the water

2374
01:46:53,239 --> 01:46:56,199
at the end, Okay, that was fun, sting breaking the.

2375
01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:01,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, restling the wall. It made me bring those like

2376
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:03,840
I want that WCW when they go to a show

2377
01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:05,199
in like the pool and the rings, they're like, I

2378
01:47:05,279 --> 01:47:07,439
want someone to do that, Like it was cool that

2379
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:10,000
I'm just fighting and water hendden up so like next

2380
01:47:10,079 --> 01:47:10,880
Jericho Cruise.

2381
01:47:11,199 --> 01:47:14,199
Speaker 4: Yeah that they did do a dynamite on Jerco cruise.

2382
01:47:14,359 --> 01:47:17,720
You know, maybe next year we're getting raw from them

2383
01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:18,600
from the Jerk.

2384
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:22,239
Speaker 2: No, that'll be n XTS buffs. You know they're gonna

2385
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:27,239
they'll be break hundred percent. Jericho's getting that.

2386
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:30,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, I share your guys send him about magic.

2387
01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:32,960
I I enjoyed, I think, like I think I enjoyed

2388
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:34,720
it as a finale, But at the same time, it

2389
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:38,199
didn't have that big even the like I said, the

2390
01:47:38,279 --> 01:47:40,800
death walk, it's like that's it, Like it's just I

2391
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:43,119
did like that they teased because he threw them over

2392
01:47:43,319 --> 01:47:45,319
the ropes with the flakes. They kind of touched upon

2393
01:47:45,359 --> 01:47:47,520
the Hangman ending, but like I said, it's like, well

2394
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:50,560
we've seen Moxley quit twice now, like don't run this again,

2395
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:53,520
like it like and he quit, like the Hangman won.

2396
01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:56,680
That was more to me devastating than this was, like

2397
01:47:56,720 --> 01:47:58,439
it was a cool visual. I maybe they should have

2398
01:47:59,199 --> 01:48:01,760
like really played up the glass or even Mosley could,

2399
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:03,159
like because if they could have played up like he

2400
01:48:03,199 --> 01:48:03,680
had him in a.

2401
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:06,640
Speaker 2: Deathlock and his stomach is against the glass.

2402
01:48:07,039 --> 01:48:08,159
Speaker 1: But I don't think if that's.

2403
01:48:08,119 --> 01:48:10,680
Speaker 4: Just broken and then like it like swept it away

2404
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:11,880
with the vat pretty much.

2405
01:48:12,319 --> 01:48:14,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, like they should have still fakely like when the

2406
01:48:14,399 --> 01:48:16,600
second Monks got turned over, he should have been like

2407
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:19,560
none like that. They just didn't if that was the effect,

2408
01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:22,039
they didn't play it up well enough. But uh yeah,

2409
01:48:22,079 --> 01:48:22,680
I hope this is it.

2410
01:48:24,239 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 4: If it was something like if he had him in

2411
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:29,600
the in the death block but somehow like he was

2412
01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:32,520
like pushing his head like into the water, I think.

2413
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:35,039
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, something like that. Yeah, there's but it just

2414
01:48:35,199 --> 01:48:38,119
was had the flag and stuff. But yeah, I hope

2415
01:48:38,159 --> 01:48:38,640
this is it, and.

2416
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:41,920
Speaker 1: I hope this now just builds towards more inner turmoil

2417
01:48:42,039 --> 01:48:45,479
with the Death Riders. And then let's get Garcia built up,

2418
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:47,399
because Garcia shouldn't just be a guy running on the

2419
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:47,880
apron and.

2420
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:50,039
Speaker 2: Getting mace in the face. I hope that's the idea.

2421
01:48:50,159 --> 01:48:52,880
Speaker 1: Now that case beat Darby, and now the idea is,

2422
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:54,880
let's build up Daniel Garcia. I hope was not just

2423
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:57,560
a moment a swerve or swerve that should be the

2424
01:48:57,600 --> 01:48:59,399
next story is Moxley and Garcia.

2425
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:02,039
Speaker 4: Darby still eventually gets the title.

2426
01:49:02,319 --> 01:49:05,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I think like before the man

2427
01:49:05,399 --> 01:49:06,640
dies he'll win the title.

2428
01:49:07,359 --> 01:49:12,680
Speaker 4: We still have like the MJF like contract is still Yeah, honestly,

2429
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:14,840
he can't like money in the banquet anymore, he has

2430
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:18,520
to announce it. But still I feel like maybe Darby.

2431
01:49:19,279 --> 01:49:22,119
I feel like if MJF like ends up winning it

2432
01:49:22,239 --> 01:49:24,560
or something or some he'll ends up winning. I could

2433
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:27,000
see Darby winning off that person.

2434
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:30,479
Speaker 1: It should be MGF, especially because twice MGF is beating

2435
01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:33,279
up with a head overtake down, roll up. It's always

2436
01:49:33,279 --> 01:49:35,119
been like a belt shot or like a nutshot, but

2437
01:49:35,199 --> 01:49:36,760
he always does it. Then he rolls up to make

2438
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:39,760
it seem like he beat him really easily. So to me,

2439
01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:42,319
that is a guy, even to me, which is a

2440
01:49:42,359 --> 01:49:43,880
dumb role if toys guy. I don't want to put

2441
01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:46,439
the title if for some reason he knows that MGF

2442
01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:49,640
is leaving in twenty twenty six, twenty seven, still have

2443
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:51,800
MGF have the title for like a little bit and

2444
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:54,039
Darby Like that is the story there of Darby beating

2445
01:49:54,479 --> 01:49:57,079
him for the title. So I think Darby, yeah, will

2446
01:49:57,399 --> 01:49:59,560
eventually win it, even if it's like Mick Foley where

2447
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:01,399
he had it for like two weeks and was out, Like,

2448
01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:04,800
Darby will definitely win it just was the better story

2449
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:05,039
to go.

2450
01:50:05,079 --> 01:50:08,199
Speaker 4: With thinking about it. How like, like I said the score. Look,

2451
01:50:08,720 --> 01:50:10,880
this was like this was literally like the match they

2452
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:14,399
would have had for the title, like especially with its

2453
01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:16,960
thing showing up, like it makes sense of the story.

2454
01:50:17,039 --> 01:50:19,279
But like if this was like if this was gonna

2455
01:50:19,319 --> 01:50:23,680
be there, like like you know, like WrestleMania forty ending

2456
01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:24,560
and stuff.

2457
01:50:24,319 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 2: Like that, the end game.

2458
01:50:25,399 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because I guess the original plan like it

2459
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:33,039
would have been. I guess like mocks like retaining over

2460
01:50:33,199 --> 01:50:36,960
Osprey at all in and then like Darby winning it

2461
01:50:37,039 --> 01:50:38,680
here would have been the original plan.

2462
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, not not not the case.

2463
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:45,680
Speaker 2: Don't do that. That would have been disastrous. And then

2464
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:47,279
yeah he did mention that.

2465
01:50:47,359 --> 01:50:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot because we're talking about this stuff Britsco

2466
01:50:49,640 --> 01:50:52,640
and Fletcher, which I think the reason I almost forgot

2467
01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:54,039
because we're also on different tangents.

2468
01:50:54,079 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 2: But good match.

2469
01:50:55,079 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 1: I gave like a four if I liked it. I

2470
01:50:57,039 --> 01:50:59,399
think they have good chemistry. I just now think these

2471
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:01,800
guys need to stay away from each other for a

2472
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:03,600
little bit. And same thing I need Kyle to have,

2473
01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:06,520
like a program I need to have not just like

2474
01:51:07,359 --> 01:51:09,319
challenge or challenge because like that thing I agree with

2475
01:51:09,399 --> 01:51:11,319
him where he's like on the press con he wants

2476
01:51:11,319 --> 01:51:13,159
to try to, you know, be better than everyone.

2477
01:51:13,199 --> 01:51:15,079
Speaker 2: That's hell this title. He wants to be the best champion.

2478
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:17,920
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is like even like Cody had both

2479
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:20,319
where he had the he had the open challenges, but

2480
01:51:20,359 --> 01:51:23,520
he also had the stories. Fletcher needs that and not

2481
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:25,319
the Brisko. Like they've had four matches.

2482
01:51:25,399 --> 01:51:27,359
Speaker 4: You know, it felt like they were gonna do him

2483
01:51:27,479 --> 01:51:31,920
versus Kenny because he writes Kenny, Yeah, then Kenny, and

2484
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:35,199
then Kenny just came back and or what he was

2485
01:51:35,279 --> 01:51:35,760
on the show.

2486
01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:37,920
Speaker 1: What what did he run in the end the Jurassic

2487
01:51:38,039 --> 01:51:40,520
Express Bucks he made the save. Yeah, to me, that's

2488
01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:43,000
the story right there, is like the rumor was it

2489
01:51:43,079 --> 01:51:46,159
was gonna be Kenny and Coda versus Josh, Alexander and

2490
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:51,039
uh Henna Sarah right yeah, which again just Kenny stuck

2491
01:51:51,079 --> 01:51:53,239
in these tag teams and you know that's fine, but like,

2492
01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:54,840
to me, that is a story.

2493
01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:56,439
Speaker 2: If you can get Kenny and Kyle for a couple

2494
01:51:56,439 --> 01:51:57,199
of months, like the same thing.

2495
01:51:57,439 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 1: Don't have Kenny wrestle at all, have him cut promos,

2496
01:52:00,199 --> 01:52:02,199
have him do stuff and let his body at healed

2497
01:52:02,279 --> 01:52:04,359
up and then then at full gear do the match.

2498
01:52:04,399 --> 01:52:06,399
They don't even have to touch. Kenny can be a

2499
01:52:06,439 --> 01:52:09,000
good talker in Japan. He was one of the best

2500
01:52:09,039 --> 01:52:12,039
ones in aw North America. It's very fifty to fifty.

2501
01:52:12,079 --> 01:52:13,319
Speaker 2: It depends. Don't let them have the mic.

2502
01:52:13,359 --> 01:52:15,279
Speaker 1: When it's like, hey, you got thirty seconds, they goodbye,

2503
01:52:15,319 --> 01:52:18,239
good Like Kenny can be good given the right material.

2504
01:52:18,359 --> 01:52:20,279
Speaker 2: So I hope they do that. But that's what Kyle

2505
01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:23,600
needs is a real story here, you know. But you know,

2506
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:27,600
I thought it was a solid match. Yeah, I totically gifted.

2507
01:52:28,359 --> 01:52:29,560
Speaker 1: It was a good match.

2508
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:31,720
Speaker 3: I felt like it went a little bit too long

2509
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:34,600
at times, and that's probably because I feel like we've

2510
01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:37,399
seen these guys go back and forth so much now,

2511
01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:41,239
it's like I didn't need this much of a match

2512
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:45,279
for them. To your point, I hope that they move

2513
01:52:45,319 --> 01:52:48,760
on and move into different directions, like Kyle continue to

2514
01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:51,800
do some stuff, making stuff look strong, continue to do so,

2515
01:52:53,039 --> 01:52:57,199
because dude is freaking phenomenal and I love I love

2516
01:52:57,279 --> 01:53:00,720
watching him. This was just my second least favorite match,

2517
01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:04,199
and that's only because I'm just kind of like, all right, cool,

2518
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:07,640
just like the hurt syndicated stuff. We've seen this so

2519
01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:10,359
many times, Like how many more times can I see

2520
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:14,159
these guys go back and forth. How many more times

2521
01:53:14,239 --> 01:53:17,560
can I see the standard Mark Brisco match? I like

2522
01:53:17,680 --> 01:53:21,239
Mark Brisco, but this was a standard Mark Brisco match

2523
01:53:21,439 --> 01:53:23,520
and Kyle got to get his shine in. But it

2524
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:25,800
was the standard Mark Brisco match. And I'm like, all right,

2525
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:29,760
it didn't do anything for me. It was a good match.

2526
01:53:30,039 --> 01:53:32,720
Probably could have cut off about five minutes of it

2527
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:33,680
and might have been fine.

2528
01:53:34,199 --> 01:53:34,399
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2529
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:37,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did feel like overall, just like this show.

2530
01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:40,720
Like I'll say, I'm all for everyone getting their time,

2531
01:53:41,199 --> 01:53:43,680
but it did feel like, I don't know, just like

2532
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:45,600
the format of it. Like like I said, it was

2533
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:48,479
just like long match after long match after long match,

2534
01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:52,840
Like I feel like they could have just like reordered them.

2535
01:53:53,520 --> 01:53:53,840
I don't know.

2536
01:53:54,319 --> 01:53:55,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I could see that.

2537
01:53:55,560 --> 01:53:58,039
Speaker 1: Or again, this didn't have to be on the pay

2538
01:53:58,079 --> 01:54:00,239
per view, right, like just like I get it th time,

2539
01:54:00,279 --> 01:54:01,680
but just because it's been done a bunch, you could

2540
01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:02,319
have spread out.

2541
01:54:02,399 --> 01:54:05,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, there were a few here that I was like,

2542
01:54:05,600 --> 01:54:07,199
exactly need to be on the show.

2543
01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, well there you go.

2544
01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:11,199
Speaker 2: We've done that.

2545
01:54:11,359 --> 01:54:14,159
Speaker 1: We did some fantasy booking, we did the Wrestle Dream one,

2546
01:54:14,239 --> 01:54:16,000
and then yeah, we'll see what happens next. We'll take

2547
01:54:16,039 --> 01:54:18,520
a local'll try figure out, we'll do a Survivor series

2548
01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:21,560
review very likely, and then and then I know in

2549
01:54:21,720 --> 01:54:25,399
December obviously we'll be doing the one day after Johnsena's

2550
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:28,319
last match, but the other November December ones, we'll we'll

2551
01:54:28,319 --> 01:54:29,840
figure out, but we'll definitely do one.

2552
01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:31,079
Speaker 2: Before Survivor series so.

2553
01:54:33,039 --> 01:54:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and we'll do some drops everything else.

2554
01:54:36,880 --> 01:54:37,039
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2555
01:54:37,079 --> 01:54:40,319
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go, An, that's your episode of the gimmick.

2556
01:54:40,359 --> 01:54:42,920
We'll be back next month with the bi weekly ones

2557
01:54:43,039 --> 01:54:45,319
or whenever we'll figure that out. Will be a GMO

2558
01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:46,960
also in there at some point too.

2559
01:54:47,199 --> 01:54:48,560
Speaker 2: I promise you I'll not be worring.

2560
01:54:49,239 --> 01:54:50,319
Speaker 3: Bye bye