Speaker 1: So this weekend, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, well, he
was in Geneva, of course with Steve Whitcoff, the Big Help,
as part of the peace talk between Russia and Ukraine. Now,
Trump had provided a twenty eight point piece plan twenty
eight points literally to end the war, but reports show
that it favored Putin and Russia. Welcome back to The
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family and friends. Because this insanity, this stupidity, it has
to stop. So let's get into some of the updates
from the war. Now, negotiations are allegedly continuing today, and
let me show you what Rubio told reporters. Play the clip.
Speaker 2: We arrived here today with one goal, and the goal
was to take what you knows twenty eight points twenty
six points depending on which version as it continued to evolve,
and try to narrow the ones that were open items.
And we have achieved that today in a very substantial way. Now, obviously,
like any final agreement, they'll have to be agreed upon
by the presidents, and there are a couple issues that
we need to continue to work on. But I think
the report today is that I think today was worthwhile.
It was very, very very It is probably the most
productive day we have had on this issue, maybe in
the entirety of our engagement, but certainly in a very
long time. But work remains, and because this continues to
be a working process, you know, I don't want to
declare victory or finality here. There's still some work to
be done. But we are much further ahead today at
this time than we were when we began this morning
and where we were a week ago. For certain you know,
whether it's Thursday, whether it's Friday, whether it's Wednesday, whether
it's Monday or the following week. We want it to
be soon because people are going to between today and
the time we deal with this, more people are going
to die, More destruction is going to happen. Our goal
is to end this war as soon as possible, but
we need a little more time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me be very clear. That twenty eight point
plan that came out last week, the only way to
describe it would be tantamount to taking in a brand
new Bugati and trading it in for a damaged Tesla.
I mean, that's how stupid, That's how stupid. This twenty
eight point plan was basically, Ukraine, you capitulate to everything
that Russia wants, give them additional land that they don't
have right now, agree not to become part of NATO,
agreed to disarm absolutely. Vladimir, what else? Tell us? What
else would you like? Meanwhile, a Ukrainian official posted this
statement on x Let me show you what he said.
It says this is a joint statement US Ukraine meeting
from today. On twenty third of November twenty twenty five,
representatives of the United States and Ukraine met in Geneva
for discussions on the US peace proposal. The talks were constructive, focused,
and respectful, underscoring the shared commitment to achieving a just
and lasting peace. Both sides agreed the consultations were highly productive.
The discussion showed meaningful progress toward in aligning positions and
identifying clear next steps. They reaffirmed that any future agreement
must fully uphold Ukraine's sovereignty and deliver a sustainable and
just peace. As a result of the discussions, the parties
drafted and updated and refined peace framework. The Ukrainian delegation
reaffirmed its gratitude for the steadfast commitment of the United
States and personally President Donald J. Trump, for their tireless
efforts aimed at ending the war and the loss of life.
Ukraine and the United States agreed to continue intensive work
on joint proposals in the coming days. They will also
remain in close contact with their European partners as the
process advances. Final decisions under this framework will be made
by the President of Ukraine and the United States. Both
sides reiterated their readiness to continue working together to secure
a peace that ensures ukraine security, stability, and reconstruction. Now,
let me be very clear about something that's not what
the twenty eight point plan that was initially being shoved
down Zelensky throat called for. Again, it did not permit
Ukraine's sovereignty, their stability, or their ability to protect themselves.
It was a literally a capitulation to Russia. Now, this
rhetoric coming out of the White House this week been
heavily heavily critical of Ukraine, not on Putin, not on Russia,
who of course started this war, but solely critical of Ukraine.
Trump posted this on Sunday morning, again claiming that Ukraine
hasn't been grateful. Let me show you what he wrote
in it. He writes, the war between Russia and Ukraine
is a violent and terrible one that with strong and
proper US and Ukrainian leadership, would have never happened. It
began long before I took office for a second time.
Huh hum, here we go again during the Sleepy Joe
Biden administration, and has only gotten worse. Okay, if the
twenty twenty presidential election was not rigged and stolen, the
only thing the radical left Democrats are good at doing,
there would be no Ukraine Russia war, as there hasn't
or wasn't not even a mention during my first term
in office. Who Din would never have attacked. It was
only when he saw Sleepy Joe in action that he said,
now is my chance. The rest is history, and so
it continues. I inherited a war that should have never happened,
the war that is a loser for everyone, especially the
millions of people that have so needlessly died. Ukraine leadership
has expressed zero gratitude for our efforts, and Europe continues
to buy oil from Russia. The USA continues to sell
massive amounts of weapons to NATO for distribution to Ukraine.
Crooked Joe gave everything free, free, free, including big money.
God bless all the lives that have been lost in
the human catastrophe. President DJT. Now, let me be clear
about something. There is not an ounce of accuracy in
that entire post, that rant, whatever you want to call
except that this is a tragedy and that there is
loss of life. Everything else again, it's all about grievance politics.
Trump also then posted this this morning, just this morning,
is it really possible that big progress is being made
in peace talks between Russia and Ukraine. Don't believe it
until you see it, But something good just may be happening.
God bless America. Now let me just turn around and say,
a confusing post. There has never been one more confusing
than that. So do you have some inside information that
nothing is happening, or do you have some information that
something is happening and you're gonna pull it out of
a hat like a rabbit. Well, nobody knows, you see,
that's the problem. And as far as Ukrainian gratitude, how
many more times do you want to see Zelenski on
his knees saying thank you, mister President. By the way,
it's not your money, it's the American people's money. But
thank you anyway, mister President, for all that you're doing,
for helping to create peace, for helping to save lives,
not just Ukrainians. By the way, more Russians have died
in this conflict by a multiple than Ukrainian. Now, I
also want to show you some reporting from the New
York Times. Let me show you what they say. It
starts off by saying President Vladimir Putin of Russia, for
his part, has sat back and watched. For the Russian leader,
a Kremlin friendly peace plan that enshrines Ukraine's perpetual subordination
and vulnerability would be a win. So with a failed
process that leads mister Trump to pull remaining support for
Ukraine and further antagonize European allies. Mister Putin weighed in
on Friday in a video conference with his top security officials.
The Russian leader said the twenty eight point plan could
be the foundation for a final peace settlement pending substantive
and meaningful discussion, or Russia could keep pressing its case
in Ukraine by force also turns out, says more Ukrainian
cities will fall to Russian troops, perhaps not as quickly
as we would prefer, but inevitably, mister Putin warned. He said,
such a path also suits us, because Moscow was content
to pursue its interest through armed confrontation. Finally, his message,
his authoritarian system can outlast the resources and will of
its adversaries. The West has entered a pain contest with
Vladimir Putin. Who can withstand more pain? Said Alexander Gabyev,
director of the Carnegie Russia Eurasia Center. In this competition,
Putin can be tough as nails, and his system can
be tough as nails. Well, let me be crystal clear,
it's fucking propaganda and nothing more than that. Russia right
now is economically in the toilet. On top of that,
they have lost approximately a million soldiers the vas vast
vas majority male. So what happens if the war or
when the war finishes, What happens to all the mothers
who have no idea? What happened to their sons? What
happens to the wives who aren't then reunited with their husbands,
or to the children whose fathers are now gone. You
think Russia's gonna stand for this put In? I don't
even know what you want to call it, braggadocia where
he's going to continue. Do you remember that there were
so many Russian lives lost on the battlefield that they
brought in these mobile crematoriums because it was impossible to
bury all the bodies. Let me tell you that stuff
doesn't sit well with the Russian people, and unfortunately for
both parties, funds are actually running low, definitely for Ukraine
and definitely definitely for Russia. Let me show you a
few headlines showing the difficulties for both of these countries.
In it, it starts and it says plunging oil prices
threatens Russia's vast spending on Ukraine war. The lower revenues
the resulting part of President Trump's trade war could prove
more damaging to the Russian economy than the penalties the
United States and its allies have already imposed. Another one
said Russia's military budget shrinks as war costs hit Kremlin's
economic limits. The budget indicates that Russia will continue to
fight largely as it has, locking it in a grinding
war of attrition. Another one turns out as Zelensky under siege,
as corruption case shatters Ukraine's wartime unity, and anti Zelensky
political coalition is coalescing as the president's allies are accused
of enriching themselves while the country soldiers die on the battlefield.
And finally the last one, Ukraine's cash is running low
and Europe has no good plan. B. The European Union
wants to finance Ukraine's war efforts using a loan based
on Russia's frozen assets in Belgium. If that falls through,
there's no easy alternative. Now, I do want to end
with two clips, two clips outlining just how insane the
United States foreign policy has truly gotten. Kristin Welker. She
tried to ask Scott Bessant about this twenty eight point plan. Bessant,
of course, being the jerkwal fee Is, claimed that he
didn't have information on who wrote it, but then proceeded
to claim that a deal had been written and was
at the center of it.
Speaker 3: Play the clip is you just talked about the president's
peace deals. Let's talk about Ukraine. US lawmakers on both
sides of the isle, Ukrainian officials who I've spoken to
say the peace plan for Russia and Ukraine as written
only benefits Russia. Let me ask you simply, mister secretary,
was this twenty eight point plan written by Russia.
Speaker 4: I have no information on that, Kristin, but I can
tell you I am the highest ranking US official to
have visited Ukraine. I went last February. And when I
went last February, I went with an economic cooperation agreement
between the US and Ukraine. President Zelenski pushed back against it.
The same people you're just talking about there pushed back
against it. Mainstream media pushback against it. You know what,
we did it three months later and now it is
the centerpiece for the Ukrainian economy. That this agreement is
even funding military plants for the very innovative military sector
in the Ukraine.
Speaker 1: So that's great. He went nine months ago. Mazl to you.
And finally, because we need more foreign leaders kissing Trump, says,
NATO Secretary Mark Rutt congratulated Trump on his worldwide peace campaign.
This is NATO play the clip.
Speaker 5: And it starts with a president, President Trump who wants
to end this as he did with Pakistan India, as
he has done so successfully in Gaza, as he has
done with basically eliminating the nuclear capabilities of Iram, what
he has done between Eminianasabad Jawn. So this is a
president really pushing peace. Ruld's right, this is a difficult one.
He said that he said this would be one of
the easier Well, no it was not true. It is
one of the more difficult ones. But I'm sure that
we will get this done. And yesterday was an important step,
and of course there will be more steps following you
the coming days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the problem. I get it. I get it.
They're playing to Trump's ego, including NATO Secretary Mark Rutt. Serious,
this is the whole problem. And this, my friends, is
why we the American people, the voters, we must make
sure that the twenty twenty six midterms go the right
way because this stupidity has to stop. And as always,
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