Speaker 1: When I started aching and laid down, and that's when
Speaker 1: he said, hey, are those those like monkey sounds? When
Speaker 1: they they came up from right down over that steep bank,
Speaker 1: straight up through here, straight through these trees all the
Speaker 1: way around, or a tent all the way around back
Speaker 1: to here, and that's when they proceeded to screams for
Speaker 1: hour and a half, two hours, for an intense moment
Speaker 1: in my life. It was right here is where it
Speaker 1: happened at and they were right inside these trees all
Speaker 1: the way around us.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can you can see how close the
Speaker 2: tree line is, so they were right inside the tree line.
Speaker 1: You're saying, right inside, and except for the big one.
Speaker 1: He would he'd be by that tree and walk up
Speaker 1: to the back of the tent and then I'd talk
Speaker 1: louder and he'd back back up and you could feel
Speaker 1: the ground, you could feel the voices going through your body.
Speaker 3: It was so.
Speaker 1: Intense that it was unexplainable. I'm dumbfounded, and we get
Speaker 1: action all the time. I'm grateful that he got to
Speaker 1: see him. They're here.
Speaker 2: You're listening to Big for Society, and this is Jeremiah Byron.
Speaker 2: The episode you're about to listen to is an audio
Speaker 2: documentary about the events of Sasquatch Summerfest and the research
Speaker 2: that happened in the year twenty twenty four. You'll hear
Speaker 2: from multiple people involved with this episode the Searching for
Speaker 2: Sasquatch team. Myself, Ronnie Briscilla Alisha is in the background
Speaker 2: of one of the interviews. Dwayne is present. You'll hear
Speaker 2: from Denise, many many different people. This took about a
Speaker 2: year to get all the necessary interviews and to do
Speaker 2: the editing. I hope you enjoy this. A few things
Speaker 2: to go over real quick. If you hear reference to
Speaker 2: a place called the Meadow that is now referred to
Speaker 2: as oh Cole, that's the Bigfoot Research area in Oakridge
Speaker 2: at the area fifty eight museum team frequents. I hope
Speaker 2: you enjoy this audio documentary as it does help tie
Speaker 2: together the many events that happened around Sasquatch Summerfest twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four. Enjoy. We'll first start by talking to Chad
Speaker 2: about the events that happened on Tuesday, July sixteenth and
Speaker 2: that led into Wednesday, July seventeenth. All right, Chad, do
Speaker 2: you mind first stating your full name and why you
Speaker 2: were present for the events of what happened in Oakridge.
Speaker 4: My full name is Chad Edward Data MOP was present
Speaker 4: at these events because I'm a bigfoot researcher and was
Speaker 4: invited as a speaker at a conference in Oregon, and
Speaker 4: then I was taken out into some areas on the
Speaker 4: first night that I was there by people that have
Speaker 4: had multiple experiences.
Speaker 2: Perfect And the first night you were there was that Tuesday,
Speaker 2: July sixteenth.
Speaker 4: Yes, actually it was a seventeenth. It was a seventeenth.
Speaker 2: Perfect And why don't you go ahead and share? What
Speaker 2: were some things you first experienced on Wednesday the seventeenth
Speaker 2: From your perspective.
Speaker 4: Well, we are Rove and Priscilla, the host of Sasquatch Summerfest,
Speaker 4: had picked us up, and I had got to meet
Speaker 4: your father, Ronald Rossman, Greg Guy and talked to Dwayne,
Speaker 4: his friend, both experiencers. Well, that night, Priscilla had to
Speaker 4: go get some moss and nobody was willing to go,
Speaker 4: and I said, what the heck, I'll go with you,
Speaker 4: and we go out way back into this area where
Speaker 4: there's ben encounters by multiple witnesses and we're just picking
Speaker 4: moss out of these trees and you know, we weren't
Speaker 4: there for bigfoot, but I'm always paying attention, and I
Speaker 4: just like felt something. I started explaining to Priscilla, your
Speaker 4: best form of defense, actually at night, i'm lethal for
Speaker 4: these creatures is a super bright flashlight. So I showed
Speaker 4: her I had my one flashlight on my side that
Speaker 4: I wasn't using to pick the moss because it's so bright.
Speaker 4: I pulled it out and I focused on being like
Speaker 4: I focus in, and I started shining in the woods,
Speaker 4: and I saw this yellow reflecting eye, and I said, Priscilla,
Speaker 4: there's something reflecting there. Then all of a sudden, it
Speaker 4: was two eyes, like it was behind a tree. I
Speaker 4: could kind of see the tree a little bit. It
Speaker 4: was one hundred feet away and it was black out there.
Speaker 4: And then she's looking at it and she's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I see it. Then all of a sudden, two more
Speaker 4: yellow gold eyes appeared a little bit lower than the
Speaker 4: one we were looking at. So now we're looking at
Speaker 4: two sets of eyes, and I'm like, we have Priscilla's
Speaker 4: seven year old granddaughter with us. She's in the car.
Speaker 4: I'm like, Priscilla, you want to walk towards this, which
Speaker 4: if I was like with somebody else I would have
Speaker 4: actually approached it, but Priscilla seemed a little nervous, and
Speaker 4: we did have the granddaughter, and so I agreed with
Speaker 4: her and we left, and as we're leaving, I said,
Speaker 4: drive slow, I want to shine. I still want to
Speaker 4: shine in there. And there was actually another set of
Speaker 4: eyes as we leave, and well, in fact, there was
Speaker 4: a total of three. So we had saw the two.
Speaker 4: And when I sent Priscilla to the car, and she
Speaker 4: goes to the car first because we're close to these things,
Speaker 4: well we within one hundred feet and we're one hundred
Speaker 4: yards from the car, so I told her to go.
Speaker 4: I stayed there with the lights on them. Then I
Speaker 4: walked about halfway and when I turned around, there was
Speaker 4: a third set of eyes. And we get in the
Speaker 4: car and we leave, and I want to shine. So
Speaker 4: we saw probably one of them again, unless there was
Speaker 4: a fourth that we hadn't happened to see when we
Speaker 4: were out picking the moss.
Speaker 2: I remember you talking about that sighting multiple times when
Speaker 2: we were having conversations during that week, and you usually
Speaker 2: would say, you know, Jeremiah, I know what I saw.
Speaker 2: I'm not crazy. I mean, it really affected you. Intensely.
Speaker 4: I know what I saw, Jeremiah, I know what I
Speaker 4: saw absolutely.
Speaker 2: This is the same day, So I just I want
Speaker 2: to clarify dates because it has been a little bit
Speaker 2: of time. So this happened on the same day. I
Speaker 2: believe that I flew in on the Wednesday, because later
Speaker 2: on we went back out that same day and stayed
Speaker 2: out pretty late, me, you and Sherry.
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, you came out. You flew in that day,
Speaker 4: and we went out that night after all this had
Speaker 4: already happened.
Speaker 2: So I just missed probably some of the most craziest
Speaker 2: stuff that happened in the week. Just missed it. But
Speaker 2: I want to throw in something. I was trying to
Speaker 2: think of what happened that night, Wednesday night, And the
Speaker 2: weirdest thing was I remember you shining your flashlight on
Speaker 2: the edge of the meadow, and it was a pretty
Speaker 2: blight bright flashlight. You've shown it into the tree line,
Speaker 2: and a half second later there was a huge stick
Speaker 2: break not too far away where from where you shined
Speaker 2: your flashlight. And that was probably the first weird thing
Speaker 2: I experienced in that area.
Speaker 4: Yep, yep, I do remember the stick break. We could
Speaker 4: attribute it attribute it to anything, but because of what
Speaker 4: happened right in that spot, I mean, we're going to
Speaker 4: we're going to think bigfoot. But the thing is, we
Speaker 4: only heard one break. It's not like an animal went
Speaker 4: crash into the woods. We just heard one crack out
Speaker 4: of nowhere and it was calm mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Now, there had been a sighting on the edge
Speaker 2: of the meadow of one jumping down from a tree, right.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I heard that one. I didn't
Speaker 4: hear about one jump from a tree, but I heard
Speaker 4: There's been a lot of sightings up there, so you
Speaker 4: might have got that inclusive, you know, at the conference,
Speaker 4: because you talked to a lot of people from the area.
Speaker 2: This is exactly why I'm spending I should have done
Speaker 2: all these interviews at the week that I was there,
Speaker 2: but my legs started having a bacterial infection and I
Speaker 2: was kind of not really with it. But I believe
Speaker 2: I'll get that sighting from one of the other parties
Speaker 2: that was involved. And there's so many people that were
Speaker 2: involved with being up in the area of the meadows.
Speaker 2: Were there any other things that happened out of the
Speaker 2: ordinary or anything you noticed? I know, you put some
Speaker 2: fruit up in that area as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I don't really know what to say about
Speaker 4: the fruit. The apples and oranges were on the ground.
Speaker 4: The banana was peeled and just a peel left there.
Speaker 4: I don't know what to think about that. We left
Speaker 4: apples in another place and they disappeared. We left three
Speaker 4: where Priscilla and I had our night sighting, So that
Speaker 4: was the only fruit that we left out there. But
Speaker 4: I h there was a night we were out there
Speaker 4: where we hiked up the mountain. You didn't want to
Speaker 4: go with us, don't you remember that night?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, me Jason and Gwendolyn and we did. And on
Speaker 4: our way down we found this weirdest thing like root
Speaker 4: like not pulled out of a tree and they were
Speaker 4: like place on a log right there for us to see,
Speaker 4: and you know, it was just weird just to find that.
Speaker 4: And these things were like long daggers, like twelve fourteen
Speaker 4: inch not pulled out a tree with points in them.
Speaker 4: They were beautiful if that. Gwendolyn saved one. I left
Speaker 4: one for Priscilla. I think Sherry left or I think
Speaker 4: Jason took his. So I left mine because I couldn't
Speaker 4: take it on the plane. I didn't want to smuggle
Speaker 4: it on the plane, but I do believe Gwendolyn smuggled her.
Speaker 4: And they were laid so symmetrically next to each other.
Speaker 4: It was it was weird. Did they put do it?
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I don't think a person did
Speaker 4: it either.
Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense because it sounds like where you
Speaker 2: walked up to that area, this isn't by a trail, right,
Speaker 2: this is just in the middle of the woods.
Speaker 4: There's a trail, but it's not a heavily.
Speaker 2: Utilized gotcha, gotcha?
Speaker 4: How is it? I'm just trying to figure out how
Speaker 4: a human could get the the knot the not where
Speaker 4: a branch, so where a branch comes out of a tree,
Speaker 4: they got the hole knot where it lives in the
Speaker 4: tree and feeds off of the and there were like
Speaker 4: they were like sharp daggers.
Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like it.
Speaker 4: And it logically we took the photo before we touched them.
Speaker 2: That's right, yep, it's It's one of the weirdest things
Speaker 2: I've ever seen. And I mean, uh, it's par for
Speaker 2: the course for that area because there have been other
Speaker 2: people that I mean Sherry alone has had her name
Speaker 2: called from that area. I believe that was on Sunday night.
Speaker 2: It was the same night that we're talking about. It's
Speaker 2: just some weird, weird stuff in that area.
Speaker 1: Branches break from started over and then we listen and
Speaker 1: it just stopped moving and we start talking, and then
Speaker 1: there's a snap over here, and we'd listen and it
Speaker 1: kept doing that, and it got us, you know, another snap,
Speaker 1: and my daughter got up to look with me. I
Speaker 1: was looking already, and she got up and turn this
Speaker 1: direction and we didn't see nothing then, but then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, crash crash, crash, crash, crash, and I
Speaker 1: see this black shape leap out of this stuff and
Speaker 1: go that way. Well, I was thinking, is that a
Speaker 1: bear because it looks small, right, but being right here
Speaker 1: next to it, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 3: Telling you what happened last night. They weren't aggressive at all.
Speaker 3: I was a nervous.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: We had to little girl with us and Priscilla, and
Speaker 3: I'm like Priscilla, I wanted to go toward him because
Speaker 3: I didn't couldn't hardly believe what I was seeing, and
Speaker 3: I wanted to verify. I know what it was. I know,
Speaker 3: I know exactly what it was, and then she didn't
Speaker 3: want to go towards it all with me, and I'm
Speaker 3: glad we didn't go towards him because that way we
Speaker 3: weren't threatening. I hagg the light on him. I said,
Speaker 3: do you go to the car? And I held the
Speaker 3: light on him and I washed him. She walked the car.
Speaker 3: She walked like three hundred feet, like almost a football field,
Speaker 3: to the car. And when she got up there, then
Speaker 3: I turned the flashlight so I could see because she
Speaker 3: had a flashlight. And I started walking and I got
Speaker 3: about one hundred and fifty and I turned and shined
Speaker 3: the light. They were all in the same place, but
Speaker 3: now there was three instead of two. When I turned
Speaker 3: and I'm like, okay, they had pursued towards I'm halfway there.
Speaker 3: Then I turned, I walked, We got in the car. Eve,
Speaker 3: It's like, let's go. Let's go, like me and Prisuona, Dude,
Speaker 3: that's real. I know what I saw and Eve it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: we gotta go, we gotta go, so we're going.
Speaker 2: Our interviews continue with July eighteenth, which was a Wednesday,
Speaker 2: talking more to Chad about how he went up to
Speaker 2: the area again with Ronnie and Dwayne, and then that
Speaker 2: day concludes with audio from my self and Dwayne up
Speaker 2: in the Oak Hole Research area. Also president is Denise
Speaker 2: Sherry and Chad.
Speaker 4: But we went back the next day. I took Ron
Speaker 4: back and we went with Dwayne and we went to
Speaker 4: look and we located the spot for footprints and there
Speaker 4: were footprints all over like depressions, and there was one
Speaker 4: that was measured at they said like twenty inches. That
Speaker 4: was like easy, eighteen inches, and they were like but
Speaker 4: they weren't defined. They were just like the shape of
Speaker 4: a foot depression.
Speaker 2: Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 4: You didn't see toes because of the ground surface a substrate,
Speaker 4: it wasn't feasible for a good track in that area.
Speaker 4: But you could see definitely where something heavy had stood
Speaker 4: all over behind these trees where Priscilla and I saw this.
Speaker 2: And this was on the day that you went back.
Speaker 4: It would have been around eight thirty okay in the morning, gotcha.
Speaker 4: And after we observed all of that, then Ron and
Speaker 4: Duyne wanted me to take to want to take me
Speaker 4: just which is right close by within a mile or
Speaker 4: so mile and a half at the month by the
Speaker 4: drive straight line, probably three quarters of a mile. They
Speaker 4: wanted to take me to where they had their their
Speaker 4: terrifying experience one night, and so we go up there
Speaker 4: and we put out lawn chairs right on the road,
Speaker 4: right by the meadow where they had all this. We
Speaker 4: sat there. We sat there for hour and a half
Speaker 4: and then Ron needed to run into town, wanted to
Speaker 4: get lunch and some things to drink. And Sherry slept
Speaker 4: in because of the flight from the night before. She
Speaker 4: was exhausted, had way less sleep than me, and so
Speaker 4: he was to pick her up. But during the time
Speaker 4: he was gone, he left, and within between thirty and
Speaker 4: forty five minutes, we started hearing like cracking, like footsteps.
Speaker 4: My back was to it. Dwayne was facing torchs that
Speaker 4: we're in camping chairs on the side of this like
Speaker 4: two track. My back's to it. He's facing me, and
Speaker 4: his daughter's off to the side, and they're hearing it,
Speaker 4: and I'm like this, just keep listening and see what happens. Well,
Speaker 4: then I don't know, you know what happened, because we
Speaker 4: heard it for I don't know, good minute and a half.
Speaker 4: Then all of a sudden, it just started. It crashed
Speaker 4: the woods. My back's to it, I didn't see it.
Speaker 4: Dwayne saw it. He said it was black and it
Speaker 4: ran through the woods. His daughter didn't see it because
Speaker 4: she wasn't quite facing at it. We all heard it,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, okay, well, let's just sit here. We
Speaker 4: didn't like go in or anything. And within I don't know,
Speaker 4: fifteen to twenty minutes maybe, I mean, it's hard to tell.
Speaker 4: In time, all of a sudden we get roared at.
Speaker 4: I mean, this roar. That is incredible, that there's bear
Speaker 4: can't roar this long and at this And it was
Speaker 4: a distance away, not real far, but a distance. And
Speaker 4: Dwayne and Denise, his daughter, they got a little paranoid
Speaker 4: because they had bad experiences with getting growled and roared
Speaker 4: at like that. I told them, We're okay, okay, let's
Speaker 4: just sit here, just sit here. We're fine. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Fifteen seconds went by, and then the roar, same rule,
Speaker 4: but it was louder and closer and in the and
Speaker 4: I mean, I saw the panic in their face. And
Speaker 4: I'll be honest, I'm not often intimidated, but it was
Speaker 4: really really intimidating to me. And I just looked at him.
Speaker 4: I said, all right, it's time to go. So we
Speaker 4: jump in their vehicle and we drive up maybe a
Speaker 4: half mile and because we can't leave because Ronnie's coming
Speaker 4: back with Sherry and stuff, and if we leave, he's
Speaker 4: just gonna go right there and we're gonna be gone.
Speaker 4: So we pull up and we find the spot to park.
Speaker 4: We parked there and we wait, and we're waiting, and
Speaker 4: we're while we're waiting, we're I mean, we're on high
Speaker 4: alert because of what just happened. We're like just scanning
Speaker 4: the high hills behind us, like the cliffs of the
Speaker 4: mountain or some behind us that it's up like fifty feet.
Speaker 4: We're scanning across this big, huge ravine to a mountain
Speaker 4: on the other side. It's all like totally visible. And
Speaker 4: I just happened to look to my left and I
Speaker 4: just stare there at this area, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: this upright dark object just goes running down this hill.
Speaker 4: I saw it at the mouse for a second to
Speaker 4: a second and half, but I know what I saw.
Speaker 4: And it ran upright down this big steep hill right
Speaker 4: in front of us. They didn't see it. I saw it.
Speaker 4: But this is within half a mile of where all
Speaker 4: this other stuff just happened a few minutes before that.
Speaker 2: Ohoh, it's got like a really weird shivery feeling. That's weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think they I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's like, do you know what I'm You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, though, like get them all all of a sudden.
Speaker 1: I usually I usually get it right before it starts happening.
Speaker 1: I've been feeling the same way. My hair is on end.
Speaker 1: I'm looking in all around me. Pretty soon it's gonna
Speaker 1: feel like somebody's watching you.
Speaker 6: M Oh, you had their birds quick?
Speaker 2: This is kind quiet?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's real close to the whistle?
Speaker 2: Why's breaking stuff off that tree over there?
Speaker 1: Or just get ready record as much as you can
Speaker 1: jump in there and go as fast as we can.
Speaker 1: If we have to, you can turn around. I won't
Speaker 1: purround here without that car being turned around.
Speaker 7: Yeah it's quiet, but all the way around is now?
Speaker 6: Why is so quiet? Because something's out there?
Speaker 1: M h, I don't like that whistle?
Speaker 8: H hard to raise somebody? And how have you been
Speaker 8: through this one today?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 6: It is.
Speaker 2: So right there. That's the field where it all went down.
Speaker 2: That's wild.
Speaker 3: Yeah that was hard to do, but I did those
Speaker 3: two breaks because you know, they echoed through the words.
Speaker 2: To get it, I figured, yeah, it's super quiet.
Speaker 3: And those were two loud breaks.
Speaker 2: Right, oh yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: How good humories here though? Mm hmm, all right, kidding,
Speaker 1: I know I'm nervous too. For all right, so far
Speaker 1: you've got good instincts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, So Ronnie, this is a spot where Ronnie
Speaker 2: was like, you were like, do you want to come?
Speaker 2: And Ronnie's like, no, I'm staying here. I don't care
Speaker 2: if they tear me apart.
Speaker 1: This is it he is.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a great guy with that nuts that
Speaker 2: he did that. Now that I'm here, that's wild.
Speaker 1: You get a chance and maybe get that role and
Speaker 1: then you'll really go wow.
Speaker 2: Ronnie is a great guy though. He's a good dude.
Speaker 2: Now what, no way, that's it.
Speaker 1: That's what what he's mimicking. Is that sound there? And
Speaker 1: I can't tell you whether that's a bird that no way,
Speaker 1: not the robin, but when that one that bird, that's
Speaker 1: the whistle that these big foot if you have been
Speaker 1: mimicking to us that whistle right there, that's the whistle
Speaker 1: my daughter was whistling back and I'm back and forth
Speaker 1: up here, was that whistle right there. I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: to figure out what what kind of bird that is,
Speaker 1: just so I know what they're mimicking. And could he
Speaker 1: back in another spot too?
Speaker 6: Right now?
Speaker 1: Well, they couldn't even booth spots. Oh, it took a
Speaker 1: long time to talk. Ronnie is coming up here?
Speaker 2: I bet yeah.
Speaker 1: They were wanting to go down.
Speaker 7: On the swamps.
Speaker 1: Man asked the place to be. That's the place I
Speaker 1: kept telling her. I'm telling you it's not as good.
Speaker 2: Right, Fine, So the swamps are how far away from here?
Speaker 6: A long way?
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some on the corner over there.
Speaker 1: And then it drips into another layer.
Speaker 4: And there's a creek.
Speaker 3: We're us hearing it here and with the cracks, and
Speaker 3: then for some reason it freaked out and went crashing
Speaker 3: through the woods. My back was to it. I trust
Speaker 3: this man was what he saw. He was facing it.
Speaker 3: And then when he said bear, he says, it had
Speaker 3: to be a bear. It was black, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: didn't sound like a bear, and if it was a bear,
Speaker 3: it would have kept running that somewhere where it could
Speaker 3: go quiet.
Speaker 7: But he jumped and.
Speaker 3: Then he said then he said, well, yeah he jumped.
Speaker 6: It was like a weird but I didn't see it.
Speaker 3: I heard it.
Speaker 1: She heard My mind was trying to rationalize something, you know.
Speaker 6: Maybe Okay.
Speaker 3: Then it wasn't fifteen minutes after that at the most
Speaker 3: that we heard the roar. It took off. That's why
Speaker 3: I think it went. And told the Alpha Daddy, I
Speaker 3: really did. It took off and within fifteen minutes there's
Speaker 3: a roar and then.
Speaker 1: He knows the story. Seconds it was another I think
Speaker 1: ten twelve seconds, and it was a lot closer.
Speaker 3: And then I, dude, I was like, it was was
Speaker 3: it its time? It might have been a hundred yards away,
Speaker 3: It might only about one hundred yards away. It was
Speaker 3: that loud, and I said, yeah, okay, and I left
Speaker 3: the chair and that was no low.
Speaker 2: Yeah you did, dude.
Speaker 3: I left a chair there because we couldn't fit it in.
Speaker 3: I wasn't wasting the time we could have, but I
Speaker 3: wasn't wasting time. We drove up to where I showed
Speaker 3: you we parked that big round thing and then pointing.
Speaker 3: So we drive up there. We're parked because we we
Speaker 3: know Ron's coming back with Sherry, and we can't, like
Speaker 3: we want to make sure they don't just come up
Speaker 3: here and we're gone, and we're sitting there and I'm
Speaker 3: leaning on the hood and like we're staring up in
Speaker 3: the hills. It's a beautiful spot. There's a big area
Speaker 3: you can see way up on them, on top of
Speaker 3: a mountain where if a big foot without binoculars, if
Speaker 3: a big foot walk across, you can see it. We're
Speaker 3: sitting there, were watching that, and then I'm watching up
Speaker 3: on top of the hill behind me, and then I'm
Speaker 3: watching over here, and I'm watching for a while and
Speaker 3: I saw that. Dude, I know it himself. You saw
Speaker 3: that hill it ran down to that that was not
Speaker 3: ran down that hill?
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no sense in leaving here.
Speaker 4: So that was and it was it.
Speaker 3: It's not even a mile away, as it was a
Speaker 3: half mile maybe a third of a mile.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then the other road that goes up there, it
Speaker 3: only goes up there. That's within that's ring up here
Speaker 3: where we had our sightings last night. Isn't it right here?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But we roll up, we go up and back and
Speaker 3: they doesn't come back this way.
Speaker 1: That's about a little small.
Speaker 3: So, but it's not far from here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's getting dark now.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it'll get a little darker kill soon, and
Speaker 1: it'll be quite a long before the shows up over
Speaker 1: here anywhere overall, so it'll get pretty dark.
Speaker 2: Bigs A society will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 1: You know, I can imagine all the knee figures. When
Speaker 1: we say the stuff's happening in the daytime, they're probably like, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: I don't have in the daytime.
Speaker 2: A right, Oh, it just happened to kick off right
Speaker 2: before the big Foot festival.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 2: You always get stuff like that, like just let's kept it.
Speaker 2: You know, naysayers come out and it's like whatever, I
Speaker 2: can say, whatever you want.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't care what they think. I'm just
Speaker 1: happy that another person that I'm about to see him really.
Speaker 2: Quick mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean within five hours of being in town. That's
Speaker 1: got a better record.
Speaker 2: That's an absolute record.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 2: It is like boots on the ground. Five hours later
Speaker 2: you have a sighting that's wild with three of them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, it's funny.
Speaker 1: It's just funny. Ronson. Why do I never get to
Speaker 1: see him? I don't know, it's just funny. I guess
Speaker 1: I gotta find some humor in it. No, you really do,
Speaker 1: and I you know, I don't mean it in a
Speaker 1: bad way, but I hope they can get them scared
Speaker 1: out of you too.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and get it on recording. Absolutely. Do you think
Speaker 2: of how many spots like this there probably are in
Speaker 2: the Pacific Northwest? You know, no one but ever now? Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is just one drop in the ocean, dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just gotta find them one spot, one of
Speaker 1: the spots where, for whatever reason, people just don't go camping.
Speaker 5: What do you get to pick.
Speaker 1: Because making them feel wrong when they leave you don't
Speaker 1: want to camp there, or or they have a sight
Speaker 1: in it, or something happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I hardly ever see anybody camping anywhere from here in below. Wow,
Speaker 1: and there's got to be a reason for that.
Speaker 2: Got real quiet again? Do you see something I thought.
Speaker 1: I've seen movement over there?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Hey, what did you think?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 1: Where did you see that?
Speaker 2: The one where he was at? Okay, I was I'm
Speaker 2: not sure. I kept seeing stuff earlier too. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think we need to keep an eye on that tree,
Speaker 2: to be honest, I just didn't. I thought it was
Speaker 2: like my camera being weird. So I was waiting until
Speaker 2: someone else said something.
Speaker 1: I thought I seen a movement over there? Yeah, was
Speaker 1: that it turn in a minute?
Speaker 6: Look at.
Speaker 1: Hm hmm, I've seen enough.
Speaker 4: H weird?
Speaker 1: Did you see that fluctuation? Now I'm gonna start looking
Speaker 1: at the screen too, though, I'm kind of fluctuation. Look
Speaker 1: at me way, how do you walk down here? This
Speaker 1: is usually the side that big one comes out of it.
Speaker 1: He has came under this said before, but usually it's
Speaker 1: either from over the train. That's what you heard this morning?
Speaker 1: That was it the train that was te.
Speaker 6: Treat hit.
Speaker 1: When we all had the same hallucination.
Speaker 3: When roar, I keep saying that I gotta give a bug.
Speaker 4: And I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was for some of my daughter heard she's.
Speaker 4: Too.
Speaker 1: She didn't get here at the roar.
Speaker 6: The roar is so.
Speaker 2: Chance, man, is it really? Does it like reverberate in
Speaker 2: your chest?
Speaker 1: Like a lot of people will say, yes, when you're
Speaker 1: up close on the edge of them trees doing it,
Speaker 1: you will feel it. Yeah, so loud, it's intense.
Speaker 11: There's a lot of things if Yeah, because the female
Speaker 11: one I had was the loudest thing I've ever.
Speaker 1: Heard of my whole life.
Speaker 11: The team, but a male what I think that that's
Speaker 11: a lot scarier than the female.
Speaker 1: It can paralyze you too, man, you just can't move.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you probably couldn't even stand up. I can imagine that.
Speaker 3: Also, researchers a lot of times is long nights.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, it's boring.
Speaker 4: Few and the.
Speaker 3: Dumbest thing you can do is go tramped through the woods.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I've you.
Speaker 3: There's time for tramp for the.
Speaker 11: Woods, especially if you don't know where you're trampling.
Speaker 3: And especially when what happened right here today. Yeah, why
Speaker 3: would you go anywhere else? Why would I want to
Speaker 3: even walk out right here? Why would I even want
Speaker 3: to walk in there?
Speaker 2: True?
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not I'm kind of fear.
Speaker 2: The next day is the events of Thursday, July nineteenth.
Speaker 2: In this episode, we're not going to go into that
Speaker 2: because I've already spent four whole episodes about the events
Speaker 2: of that Thursday. I was able to go out with
Speaker 2: Ronnie and Dwayne. Denise was also present, and we spent
Speaker 2: about eight hours in all where they were allowing me
Speaker 2: to record their conversations. So if you want to know
Speaker 2: in great detail, go back to episode five seventeen, and
Speaker 2: there's a four part series all about that Thursday where
Speaker 2: I have conversations throughout the day. We hear some roars
Speaker 2: from the woods, some very very weird stuff. It is
Speaker 2: worth going back and listening to these four episodes. We
Speaker 2: are going to go ahead and continue with July twentieth
Speaker 2: with an extended interview with Gwendolyn Guthrie, which I found
Speaker 2: extremely interesting. She's about to share what happened in a
Speaker 2: part of the area that I did not get to
Speaker 2: go to, but she had quite the sighting. It's important
Speaker 2: to know before we get into Gwendolen's interview that at
Speaker 2: the same time that all this is going on on Sunday,
Speaker 2: I was also out in the oak Hol area with
Speaker 2: a few individuals looking at tracks that had been found.
Speaker 2: It was myself, some unnamed individuals. Denise Dwayne was there.
Speaker 2: There's some very interesting things that happened that time when
Speaker 2: we were up in Oakhol. I don't really have a
Speaker 2: lot of things recorded since my devices were not working
Speaker 2: at the time. They were at a battery. This is
Speaker 2: where there was an audio clip recorded. I'm going to
Speaker 2: try to play this here. That's very interesting. It's been
Speaker 2: analyzed quite a bit. It's found that have some form
Speaker 2: of language. This was recorded by Andrew. Also, this is
Speaker 2: the time when I was sitting in my lawn chair
Speaker 2: for about five minutes and I couldn't move, very very strange. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's very hard to explain, but yeah, for five minutes,
Speaker 2: I was almost paralyzed, was not able to move, just
Speaker 2: staring directly into the woodline across the oh Coal meadow.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and play that audio clip here.
Speaker 12: Do you hear that?
Speaker 2: We're going to go ahead and play that same clip again,
Speaker 2: this time boosted in audacity.
Speaker 5: Do you hear that?
Speaker 2: It's an interesting clip. I've had a few people listen
Speaker 2: to it, including David Ellis from the Olympic Project. He
Speaker 2: says that the part that sounds like me talking is
Speaker 2: way too low for that to be me. That part
Speaker 2: kind of messes with me a lot. Also sounds like
Speaker 2: we have some sort of whoop. Some people say that
Speaker 2: sounds like the message tones on a smartphone. Not the case.
Speaker 2: I went ahead and checked out the spectrograph compared to
Speaker 2: different types of smartphone notification sounds. Also, the area we're
Speaker 2: in you really can't get service, so something really really
Speaker 2: to listen to a few times. Some strange stuff going
Speaker 2: on up there. We're going to continue with interview extended
Speaker 2: with Gwendolen Guthrie. Gwendolyn Guthrie is an individual that I
Speaker 2: met out there in Oakridge. She's part of the Searching
Speaker 2: for Sasquatch team and great group of people. Had a
Speaker 2: lot of good times hanging out with them, hanging out
Speaker 2: in the same airbnb. It was just a big party.
Speaker 2: But Gwendolen, I've invited you on to share specifically what
Speaker 2: you experienced out there in Oakridge, as you had some
Speaker 2: really interesting things happen in your own little adventure that
Speaker 2: was going on.
Speaker 12: Thank you for having me, Jeremiah, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 12: It's nice to get to talk to you again. So
Speaker 12: it'll be fun to get to talk about my experience.
Speaker 12: We went out to Oakridge, Oregon, and we were out
Speaker 12: there for a Sasquatch summer fest. You're right, it was
Speaker 12: a lot of fun. It was kind of like a
Speaker 12: big party. Everybody had a good time. Everybody got to
Speaker 12: meet me, people talk to people that they you in
Speaker 12: the past. So it was a really fun time. And
Speaker 12: during that obviously we're all investigators. In our downtime, we
Speaker 12: were always out whenever we had a little bit of downtime, daytime, nighttime, whatever.
Speaker 12: We was out in different groups researching, and on one
Speaker 12: of the days we had went up to this old
Speaker 12: mountain town and for life of me, I can't remember
Speaker 12: what it's called, but it was still active in a
Speaker 12: way that summer this past summer, but the roads were
Speaker 12: very shallow. Every the roads are starting to break down
Speaker 12: quite a bit, and from my understanding, that was the
Speaker 12: last season that they were going to have that old
Speaker 12: little abandoned mining town open. Nobody does obviously lived there.
Speaker 12: It was kind of like a ghost town, but there
Speaker 12: were still people coming up there periodically, I guess to
Speaker 12: mine and stuff, so a lot of mines were still
Speaker 12: active up there. We never saw Soul the whole time
Speaker 12: we were up there. We went up there, we saw
Speaker 12: the abandoned town, We looked around quite a bit.
Speaker 5: We used some.
Speaker 12: Spearbox devices, ovulist devices, different things like that, kind of
Speaker 12: a mixed bag investigation. Do a little bit of bigfoot,
Speaker 12: a little bit of ghost and we stayed up there
Speaker 12: quite a while. The sun had started to set and
Speaker 12: we were coming down, and as we were coming down,
Speaker 12: it got darker and darker and darker, and we came
Speaker 12: up on this mom and her two baby deers, and
Speaker 12: the mom and one of the baby deers went way
Speaker 12: up on top of the ridge. It was a real
Speaker 12: steep climb, but they made it and the second baby didn't.
Speaker 12: So we were thinking, okay, we'll just keep going. It'll
Speaker 12: curve our hard right and it'll go up the ridge.
Speaker 12: So we the way the road was set up, we
Speaker 12: had a drop off on our left as we were
Speaker 12: coming down, and then the steep ridge on the right,
Speaker 12: and we got down to where it's kind of leveled
Speaker 12: out a little bit more on our left side, and
Speaker 12: that was when the mom and the baby deer jumped
Speaker 12: up and the one baby deer didn't make it. So
Speaker 12: we're thinking we can just keep driving. It'll it'll cut right,
Speaker 12: it'll head up that ridge back to its mom. Well,
Speaker 12: it continued to stay in front of us on this road,
Speaker 12: so we're like, we're gonna have to stop and try
Speaker 12: to scare it off the road because we don't want
Speaker 12: it to get too far from its mom and get lost.
Speaker 12: So at that point we were kind of done. We
Speaker 12: were packed up, ready to go. We were just trying
Speaker 12: to get this baby tear out of our way, and
Speaker 12: everybody had already unpacked, like I already hooked unhooked my
Speaker 12: fanny pack. I had already, you know, taken some equipment
Speaker 12: out of my bag. We're just kind of done for
Speaker 12: the night. It was really and so we were talking
Speaker 12: up front, and the guy front goes, well, why don't
Speaker 12: somebody jump out, Well, we'll run it off the road
Speaker 12: so that way it will we'll get out of its
Speaker 12: way and it can curve and come back to its mom.
Speaker 12: And I was like, I volunteer, I'll do it.
Speaker 4: I'll do it.
Speaker 12: You know, I'll chase it all the throat. I'm fast
Speaker 12: as one here. So we get a little bit further
Speaker 12: and we're like, okay, now's the time. You know, we're
Speaker 12: close enough we're going to chase it off to chase
Speaker 12: it back to its mom. And so I actually have
Speaker 12: to jump out over Sherry, And so Sherry is trying
Speaker 12: to hurry up and get up and get out of
Speaker 12: my way, and I jump out over her and I
Speaker 12: just take off run after this deer. And I'm run
Speaker 12: as fast as I can and down the way. I'd
Speaker 12: say probably about oh three hundred yards.
Speaker 2: Big for Society will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 12: Maybe two hundred I'm not great with that long of
Speaker 12: a distance, but maybe two to three hundred yards away
Speaker 12: the road curve slightly left, and I'm running towards that
Speaker 12: curve and I'm like, I'm never going to catch this deer.
Speaker 12: What was I thinking? This was so stupid? And then
Speaker 12: I cut to the left like the road goes. And
Speaker 12: as soon as I cut to the left, I'm running
Speaker 12: and straightens back out again and I look and right
Speaker 12: in front of me, probably about I don't know, maybe
Speaker 12: twenty feet in front of me, maybe a little more,
Speaker 12: there was this big, massive shadow, and like at first,
Speaker 12: I was like, oh, that's my shadow, and I just
Speaker 12: keep running because if you don't remember, I had just
Speaker 12: run away from the truck who was up above me
Speaker 12: further up the road that I had just run away from,
Speaker 12: and they had their lights on. I thought it was
Speaker 12: my shadow at first, and as I'm still running towards it,
Speaker 12: I realized there's no legs moving, and then it dawned
Speaker 12: on me. I'm like, oh, that's probably not my shadow.
Speaker 12: So I skidded to a stop. My feet slid on
Speaker 12: the gravel road, and I just looked at it and
Speaker 12: I was kind of stunned, and I was like, I'm
Speaker 12: not seeing what I'm seeing. This has got to be
Speaker 12: a shadow from somebody up the road. They're walking towards
Speaker 12: me something. So I'm watching it and I try I
Speaker 12: tilt my head to the right, and I'm thinking, okay,
Speaker 12: it's gonna tilt to the right. It's my shadow. And
Speaker 12: it tilts its head to the left, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 12: not me, not my shadow. I look up to see
Speaker 12: where the truck is and I actually have to look
Speaker 12: around the trees just to even see a little slit
Speaker 12: of the lights of the truck. So I'm like, wait,
Speaker 12: that angles off for it to be from the truck lights.
Speaker 12: I look back again. I felt my head to the left,
Speaker 12: and it tells its head to the right, and I'm like,
Speaker 12: I immediately like I'm seeing what I'm seeing. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 12: I'm seeing what I'm seeing. And then I start taking
Speaker 12: note of the shape the definition. It looked like it
Speaker 12: had like an elongated conical shape head like it was
Speaker 12: not like a super cone shape, but it was like tall,
Speaker 12: more rounded slightly at the top, and it was just
Speaker 12: standing there and obviously the deer had run off as
Speaker 12: soon as I saw it, and I slowed my pace.
Speaker 12: The deer had run off and went to the left,
Speaker 12: down away a little bit, and so I look up
Speaker 12: and I'm like, guys, guys, guys, I need lights. I
Speaker 12: need something. I'm looking at something, a big shadow, and
Speaker 12: I'm like yelling at them, the rest of our team,
Speaker 12: and he's I hear, Chad up the road. He's like,
Speaker 12: we're going. So I'm like, like, please, harckey. I need
Speaker 12: lights because I wanted to see, like see see it
Speaker 12: rather than just be in a shadow. But when I
Speaker 12: looked up to yell for some some lights, I looked
Speaker 12: back and it had gone. But before I looked back,
Speaker 12: right when I went to look up, I saw it
Speaker 12: take one two steps towards the road, same direction the
Speaker 12: deer had just the baby deer had just run, and
Speaker 12: it was so fast like it happened boom boom. I
Speaker 12: had looked up. I was already in the motion to
Speaker 12: look up when I saw it take it steps. And
Speaker 12: when I looked back, real fast, it was gone. And
Speaker 12: I was thinking, I didn't just see what I think
Speaker 12: I saw. There's still nobody here, there's still no lights.
Speaker 12: I'm still by myself, and this thing just walked and
Speaker 12: now I've lost it, and so finally Chad comes with lights.
Speaker 12: I immediately grab it out of his hand. I go
Speaker 12: walk over to the area where it was, just to
Speaker 12: see what the terrain looked like against that, because it
Speaker 12: sloped up real far, real steep, like a rock face,
Speaker 12: and that's what I thought I saw the shadow was
Speaker 12: just shining on but it wasn't a shadow. It was
Speaker 12: actual full silhouette of something. So I'm looking at the
Speaker 12: terrain right in front of that rock face to see like, okay,
Speaker 12: how much room did it have to stand? Is their footprints?
Speaker 12: Is there smashdown grass? And I'm looking to see where
Speaker 12: it could have gone. And at that point, my mind
Speaker 12: was just kind of swirling with like all the what ifs,
Speaker 12: like what if what if it was just the truck lights?
Speaker 12: What if you know, you could have just saw it.
Speaker 12: Your mind tries to find ways to talk yourself out
Speaker 12: of what you just saw. And when I was telling Chad,
Speaker 12: like I couldn't get the words out of what I
Speaker 12: had saw. It was like, you know, trying to put
Speaker 12: together a puzzle that's like speeding by so fast, Like
Speaker 12: my thoughts were just racing and I was trying to
Speaker 12: explain it to him, and I was like, I swear
Speaker 12: I'm not crazy. I swear I'm not crazy because it
Speaker 12: sucked for me because I had literally just ran away
Speaker 12: from the group and then I see something when I'm
Speaker 12: by myself, like I'm telling him, I swear I'm not crazy,
Speaker 12: Like it was right there. And they were like, Okay,
Speaker 12: we understand. You know, we got to get in the car.
Speaker 12: You know, we got we gotta get out of this area.
Speaker 12: We're gonna go see if we can, you know, follow
Speaker 12: this deer, see if we can still find I'm like,
Speaker 12: you guys don't understand. And so we got in the
Speaker 12: car and the truck and I just remember the whole
Speaker 12: time just it replaying in my head over and over
Speaker 12: and over and over, like what else could it have been?
Speaker 12: What else was it? But I just remember thinking, did
Speaker 12: I really just see my first bigfoot? That I really
Speaker 12: just see what I thought I saw? And you know,
Speaker 12: it still kind of plagues my mind because I just
Speaker 12: I saw it, but I didn't see see it. And
Speaker 12: my whole goal is just to have that real good
Speaker 12: solid sighting, especially a daylight one, but one where I
Speaker 12: can see definition and color and and I almost in
Speaker 12: a way felt cheated because I didn't have my flashlight
Speaker 12: with me, I didn't have anybody else with me that
Speaker 12: could give me another perspective. And so we get in
Speaker 12: the car. I'm replaying it in my head and then
Speaker 12: I'm thinking, did it get the baby deer? I was
Speaker 12: worried about the baby deer? Didn't get the bad ear?
Speaker 12: Is that what it was going after?
Speaker 4: Why?
Speaker 12: You know? Why did it good the same direction as
Speaker 12: the baby deer. I'm thinking, Oh, that baby deer is dead,
Speaker 12: and I just felt so bad. I chased it right
Speaker 12: into it. But then we cut around to the left
Speaker 12: and then to the right, and then there's the baby
Speaker 12: deer just standing there in the middle of the road still,
Speaker 12: and in that moment, it finally decides to veer off
Speaker 12: the road, and okay, it was like, Okay, the baby
Speaker 12: deer is going to make it back to its mom.
Speaker 4: But what was that?
Speaker 12: And I still don't one hundred percent know what it was,
Speaker 12: But I think it's because I've worked so hard to
Speaker 12: talk myself out of what I saw, and I feel
Speaker 12: a little cheated that I didn't see it full on
Speaker 12: with detail and definition and collar like I would have liked,
Speaker 12: but overall, it was a really cool experience. And I
Speaker 12: remember talking a Bill about it afterwards. He was super
Speaker 12: excited about it, because you know, he was determined to
Speaker 12: give some people, you know, this bigfoot experience, and I
Speaker 12: feel like I got it, but he wasn't right there
Speaker 12: with me. But it was a really cool night.
Speaker 2: Quendolen, that's absolutely incredible.
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 2: To remind listeners of what Bill had said when I
Speaker 2: talked to him a while back. Well first said, this
Speaker 2: is on Sunday, right.
Speaker 4: I am.
Speaker 12: I think I think it could have been because I
Speaker 12: think I left on a weird day, like a Monday
Speaker 12: or Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Because Bill had told me about how on the last
Speaker 2: day he had come up to you and he had said,
Speaker 2: are you ready to see your first bigfoot or sasquatch?
Speaker 2: And you'd said, yeah, definitely. He'd also come up to
Speaker 2: me after that and asked me the same question. And
Speaker 2: I believe that that happened on a Sunday, And that happened,
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: You might not know this. You probably don't, just because
Speaker 2: we haven't talked before this since, but and I just
Speaker 2: want to share it real quick, so listeners bear with me.
Speaker 4: But I.
Speaker 3: Left on.
Speaker 2: I left on a Tuesday. Near the end, I had
Speaker 2: pretty much serious infection in my legs that I got
Speaker 2: from up in the woods, and so Monday night or
Speaker 2: Monday I had to go into Springfield in order to
Speaker 2: go to the doctors get some antibiotics. So the last day,
Speaker 2: the last day I was there, I had to cancel
Speaker 2: interviews and I was kind of like, forget this. I'm
Speaker 2: just going to go out and get a burger and
Speaker 2: drive around Hills Creek Reservoir and just enjoy this, right,
Speaker 2: And so I drove out there, and as I was
Speaker 2: driving down the road, and I don't know if you
Speaker 2: got down there, but this is way out there, right,
Speaker 2: it's a big reservoir south of Oakridge. I remember driving
Speaker 2: driving down the road and looking over to this large
Speaker 2: pine tree that was covered with ivy on the front
Speaker 2: of it. And from what I saw, it looked like
Speaker 2: it was the basic silhouette that you would see of
Speaker 2: a bigfoot that was about eight to nine feet tall.
Speaker 2: And I saw it for a few seconds and then disappeared.
Speaker 2: And so I get that. I get that feeling of
Speaker 2: like I don't know if I experienced what I saw,
Speaker 2: it may have been I know I had a fever
Speaker 2: at the time. It may have been some kind of
Speaker 2: hallucination I don't know, could have been the medicine that
Speaker 2: was working in my system, or it could have been
Speaker 2: something that actually happens. So I get like, ever since then,
Speaker 2: I've been trying to talk myself out of it, right,
Speaker 2: and it's just it's very very strange. But part of
Speaker 2: me is like, why can't I just accept it as well?
Speaker 2: You know, it's just very weird. So anyways, I wanted
Speaker 2: to put that in there for a little context of
Speaker 2: we're both approached by Bill and then we both had
Speaker 2: weird things happen afterwards.
Speaker 12: Yeah, that is interesting because he was just the way
Speaker 12: he asked me. He was like, oh, you're going to
Speaker 12: have one, like he just knew. And I was like,
Speaker 12: I was like, well, I should hope. So in the
Speaker 12: back of my mind, I'm thinking probably not, but you know,
Speaker 12: I want to go with it. I'll have faith in it,
Speaker 12: you know, like, let's do it. Let's you know, I'll
Speaker 12: be gung ho, I'll believe this. But in the back
Speaker 12: of my mind, I'm still like I've been doing this
Speaker 12: for you know, probably good ten years. The foot research,
Speaker 12: so I still haven't seen one, so maybe maybe not.
Speaker 12: But I really hoped, like I really had faith that,
Speaker 12: you know, he had the good intentions. He seemed like
Speaker 12: he was really certain, so I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 12: all right. I never thought that I would actually see that.
Speaker 12: I never thought and believe it or not, I'm very
Speaker 12: grounded in reality. I do paranormal research, I do bigfoot research.
Speaker 12: I'll research anything that's a mystery, really and I do
Speaker 12: it from a very you know, grounded perspective. I try
Speaker 12: to not be too far out of the box and
Speaker 12: try to look at things kind of with a scientific perspective,
Speaker 12: you know, always looking for an explanation otherwise first. And
Speaker 12: that's that's the way I approach things. So when I
Speaker 12: saw that, I spent so much time trying to convince
Speaker 12: myself out of what I saw in another explanation for it.
Speaker 12: But I even watched there was footage of inside of
Speaker 12: the truck as somebody was recording me chasing the deer,
Speaker 12: and you'd see me round the curve and I'm like,
Speaker 12: and so I'm watching the people because I wanted to
Speaker 12: see did anybody get out of the truck and stand
Speaker 12: at a distance to where it would account for a
Speaker 12: shadow against this big cliff edge. So I watched that
Speaker 12: video back three or four times. Only person that got
Speaker 12: out of the car that kind of stood in front
Speaker 12: of the truck was Sherry. But when you watch the
Speaker 12: video back, the headlights actually cut off at her her
Speaker 12: like the back of her chest area, like almost at
Speaker 12: the very top of her back, So it wouldn't have
Speaker 12: created a full silhouette if it was from her. And
Speaker 12: then I watched Chad, and Chad was too far out
Speaker 12: of the way of the headlights to cast any sort
Speaker 12: of shadow. And then I tell myself, you're being silly.
Speaker 12: You're just looking for a way out of what you saw,
Speaker 12: because you saw that it was solid, you know, like
Speaker 12: I knew it was solid. Once I got down there
Speaker 12: and I skidded to a stop and I stayed in
Speaker 12: my place. I was close enough to it where I
Speaker 12: could really see it wasn't a shadow. It was a solid,
Speaker 12: dark silhouette. But I really did. I tried hard to
Speaker 12: find other ways to explain it away. But it was
Speaker 12: just standing there and it had that conical shaped head,
Speaker 12: and it was just watching me, and it copied me,
Speaker 12: but not exactly copied. And that's what was so weird.
Speaker 12: It was almost like playful.
Speaker 2: Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages? Wow,
Speaker 2: it's it's absolutely incredible. I haven't heard i think in
Speaker 2: an account where Yeah, that the whole whole playful where.
Speaker 2: I've never really heard that before. It's super super interesting.
Speaker 2: So Sherry was with you in the car. Who else
Speaker 2: was in there as we?
Speaker 12: Priscilla and Stever in the front, and then Sherry was
Speaker 12: on my left. I was in the middle in the
Speaker 12: back of the truck. And then there was Chad on
Speaker 12: my right. Hey, it was with us too. She's a
Speaker 12: little mini big footer. So they were all with us
Speaker 12: and we were all in the car together. I was
Speaker 12: sitting in the back of the truck. The back seat
Speaker 12: of the truck, I had to dive over Sherry.
Speaker 5: To get out.
Speaker 12: But there was quite a few people in the in
Speaker 12: the truck, and that's why I was so frustrated, because
Speaker 12: I was thinking, why hadn't anybody been with me and
Speaker 12: saw it with me.
Speaker 2: I also was just messaged Tobe to find out that
Speaker 2: area where you guys were. You guys were way out there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was an area I didn't get to go to
Speaker 2: and Yeah, I've heard other people talk about this area
Speaker 2: as well, and it is an extremely active area and
Speaker 2: extremely intense, So I mean personally, because of I've talked
Speaker 2: to a lot of people from the Oakroage area about
Speaker 2: this area at times, I'm not surprised that you had
Speaker 2: that happen in that area, Gwendolen at all.
Speaker 12: Yeah, And the remoteness of this area was just so
Speaker 12: vast that all you could see for miles was tree covered,
Speaker 12: So I'm honestly not surprised either. I mean, if he's
Speaker 12: going to be out there surviving on nature, it's going
Speaker 12: to be that area obviously, that area because it has everything,
Speaker 12: and it's super super secluded, and it's it's it's just
Speaker 12: the perfect area. But it wasn't a big one. It
Speaker 12: wasn't super super super tall. It was maybe like seven foot,
Speaker 12: and it was when it cocked its head from side
Speaker 12: to side. The way it moved, it moved like it's
Speaker 12: upper torso along with everything. So it moved one way
Speaker 12: and you saw the shoulders and everything kind of move
Speaker 12: with it, and then the other way you saw the
Speaker 12: shoulders and everything moved with it. So that's what I
Speaker 12: thought was super intriguing and That's what made me kind
Speaker 12: of look up the hill, like what are they doing?
Speaker 12: Because I thought it was that maybe their shadow. Second,
Speaker 12: but I couldn't see the truck. I could only see
Speaker 12: a sliver of the lights through the through the tree leaves.
Speaker 2: So I want to ask a question, what are the
Speaker 2: chances that this was someone randomly walking through the woods
Speaker 2: like a lost human?
Speaker 12: Absolutely? Zero, honestly zero. Yeah, there was nothing anywhere around. Yes,
Speaker 12: there's that abandoned mining town up there, but the only
Speaker 12: access road is the road that we took. I can't
Speaker 12: see anybody hiking for that far to even get up there.
Speaker 12: I mean it's miles and miles back. It's probably about
Speaker 12: five miles back once you start hitting the gravel road
Speaker 12: going up the mountain, so it's pretty far back there.
Speaker 12: So I can't see anybody getting up there that far
Speaker 12: and then being brave enough to face a truck up
Speaker 12: the road with a person staring right in front of them. Also,
Speaker 12: wherever it took off to it was fast, very fast.
Speaker 2: Another interesting similarity between yours and other Well, another experience
Speaker 2: I was with is that this happened after you put
Speaker 2: everything away. You kind of were like, well, we're done.
Speaker 2: Put it all away. There's no you weren't ready to
Speaker 2: film a dock or anything like that. You just kind
Speaker 2: of sounds like you're chilling out. Well, there's a deer
Speaker 2: in the middle of the road, and I'll go out
Speaker 2: and help it because I'm a nice person, and that's
Speaker 2: when the stuff happens. That's kind of how it was
Speaker 2: when we heard the vocalizations up by the meadow we had.
Speaker 2: We were just chilling out. I wasn't in recording mode.
Speaker 2: It's just it's very interesting how that always kind of
Speaker 2: seems to happen.
Speaker 12: That is, that does seem to be like a factor
Speaker 12: that hits between sighting and experiences, because you can go
Speaker 12: out and research for hours and not get anything and
Speaker 12: go back to your camp and then you start getting
Speaker 12: everything happen ounly camp. It's just it is weird. They're
Speaker 12: not dumb, They're very smart. They know when to do things,
Speaker 12: and it's just the more I'm out there doing this
Speaker 12: in the field and getting to know what I think
Speaker 12: is you know, my version, I'm getting to know Bigfoot.
Speaker 12: It's just mind blowing to figure out how intelligent they
Speaker 12: are and how on Q they are and they know
Speaker 12: what you're doing. They're not dumb, and it just kind
Speaker 12: of blows my mind.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I'm probably gonna I'm going to release this
Speaker 2: around when you guys released the Oakridge episode, which could
Speaker 2: be months from now. But yeah, so just a it's
Speaker 2: a weird, weird, such a weird thing because if you
Speaker 2: think about all the things that happened with I'm thinking
Speaker 2: about people from your group, and by your group, I
Speaker 2: mean searching for a sasquatch team you had including you, one, two, three,
Speaker 2: four sightings you had yours. You had the sasquatch jumping
Speaker 2: out of the tree by the meadow. You had Chad
Speaker 2: seeing the one running down the side of the mountain,
Speaker 2: and then you saw or you had the group that
Speaker 2: saw them in the trees when they were going to
Speaker 2: pick moss. I think this is this is before I
Speaker 2: got out there, and I got out there on Wednesday.
Speaker 2: So that's a solid four sightings that just were not
Speaker 2: documented because for some reason or another. I mean, stuff
Speaker 2: happens when you don't have the stuff ready, and it
Speaker 2: happened to me too. It's just it's such it's the
Speaker 2: curse of Bigfoot. That's that's really what you have to
Speaker 2: call it. But yeah, I don't know. Maybe maybe Jason
Speaker 2: is holding on to some stuff and you know, who knows,
Speaker 2: he'll release his documentary. Did you have any other interesting
Speaker 2: adventures you were involved with during your time there?
Speaker 12: Honestly, whole trip was just one big adventure, and I'm
Speaker 12: excited to go back. I actually have already tried to
Speaker 12: start planning out going back there in the spring because
Speaker 12: I want to get back up to that mining town.
Speaker 12: I mean, I know, like technically the access road will
Speaker 12: be closed, uh, but I'm not planning on going too
Speaker 12: far back in there. I'm not probably won't go up
Speaker 12: to the mining town, but I definitely want to get
Speaker 12: up back up to that same area where I saw
Speaker 12: what I saw, because you know, we talked to a
Speaker 12: lot of people while we were there, a lot of
Speaker 12: daytime sidings, which is very unique, and it seemed like
Speaker 12: that was more kind of the norm for that area
Speaker 12: was to have a daytime siety. So you know, what
Speaker 12: better place to go if you want to see it
Speaker 12: full on than that area. So I'm already planning to
Speaker 12: go back out there because I want to go back
Speaker 12: to that spot and I want to just sit there
Speaker 12: and try some new techniques and stuff. That some of
Speaker 12: the other people from around the area have tried and
Speaker 12: say are good ways to get some sort of interaction,
Speaker 12: Because I do think that Bigfoot is different based on
Speaker 12: your location, you know, I think that you know, just
Speaker 12: like people from Kentucky have a certain slang to their lingo,
Speaker 12: to their verbiage, Ohioans don't as much. They have a
Speaker 12: certain accent. Everybody all over the US, even though we're
Speaker 12: barely separated, we have different habits, different behaviors, different favorite things.
Speaker 12: And I find that it seems to be like that
Speaker 12: with Bigfoot.
Speaker 4: Two.
Speaker 12: Do you go to different areas, different techniques work, different
Speaker 12: types of sightings occur in certain areas, So you know,
Speaker 12: I'm really excited to go back out there and try
Speaker 12: some of the things that the locals said work for
Speaker 12: interaction with Bigfoot there.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean, it was crazy how much stuff was
Speaker 2: happening for us during the twelve to four pm timeframe
Speaker 2: when we were out in the woods. And also a
Speaker 2: lot of people, I agree with you talking to a
Speaker 2: lot of people at my booth and they were saying
Speaker 2: the same thing. A lot of daytime sightings. So are
Speaker 2: you saying that you might actually go back in the springtime.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm already trying to get some plans in order.
Speaker 12: So yeah, I want to give back up there and
Speaker 12: go head back up to.
Speaker 2: Their area, so i'd be before that. I'm planning on
Speaker 2: going to the festival again next year, so that would
Speaker 2: be you're talking outside of the festival.
Speaker 12: Yes, yeah, it'll be outside of the festival, and then
Speaker 12: I also will be there for that.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. So I have some follow up questions for
Speaker 2: you as well, just because of things I've started to experience.
Speaker 2: I want to ask this a certain way. Let me think,
Speaker 2: do you feel like you were affected in any way
Speaker 2: by the sighting that you had, either mentally or physically.
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
Speaker 12: I don't think so. I was just kind of stuck
Speaker 12: in shocked mode for quite a few days.
Speaker 2: Gotcha. And when when you got home did you start
Speaker 2: to have any dreams about that area at any time? I?
Speaker 12: Actually no, I don't know if it was that area,
Speaker 12: but I did have a dream that kind of was
Speaker 12: a continuance of that experience. So I'm not sure if
Speaker 12: it was the same area because it was more flat terrain,
Speaker 12: but there was a bigfoot there and I just remember
Speaker 12: playing Peekaboo with it, and then when I couldn't find it,
Speaker 12: I went looking around for it and I couldn't find
Speaker 12: it anymore. And then that was the rest of my dream,
Speaker 12: just trying to find the one I was playing Peekaboo with.
Speaker 12: But I felt like it was kind of a continuance
Speaker 12: from that situation, and maybe it was because it was
Speaker 12: stuck on my head for so many days, but it
Speaker 12: was wasn't until after I got back, and I think
Speaker 12: I talked on the phone with Bill, and then that
Speaker 12: night was when I had that weird dream.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when when I got back, I started having extremely
Speaker 2: vivid dreams of that area that we were in, where
Speaker 2: we had interactions and almost to the point where I
Speaker 2: felt like I could interact with what was happening in
Speaker 2: the dream at the time. I don't know if you've
Speaker 2: ever had any like that where it's just like very
Speaker 2: very intense and you're not even sure if it's real
Speaker 2: life or a dream. So I was curious if that
Speaker 2: had if that had happened to you at all. And
Speaker 2: then also it's it feels like you as well, are
Speaker 2: definitely feeling drawn back to that area. Oh yes, thing
Speaker 2: where you close your eyes and you can you can
Speaker 2: just see the area. It's very much in your mind.
Speaker 12: Yeah, oh for sure. Yeah, yeah, I remember the whole
Speaker 12: scenery from everything just it was all consuming. That's all
Speaker 12: I could think about of that night, was just that
Speaker 12: particular incident.
Speaker 2: So here's the thing, Gwendolen. It's a weird thing I'm
Speaker 2: starting to see because I've been talking to a few
Speaker 2: people that were with me up in the Meadow area,
Speaker 2: which is a totally different area than where you're at,
Speaker 2: but you're kind of experiencing the same thing, which is
Speaker 2: that different people are being drawn back to certain areas
Speaker 2: where they had some kind of interaction with a bigfoot
Speaker 2: type creature. And it's just it's very weird. I don't
Speaker 2: know if this happens to different people when they have
Speaker 2: encounters in different parts of the US, or maybe it
Speaker 2: has something to do with this whole area of Oakridge.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's something strange going on there that draws people back,
Speaker 2: or I don't know. It's just it's it's kind of
Speaker 2: an interesting thread that that is coming out in all
Speaker 2: these little interviews that I'm doing about the area and
Speaker 2: that week of July, which feels like it was a
Speaker 2: year ago. But it's really just a few months ago.
Speaker 12: It does feel like it's been ages ago already, but
Speaker 12: I find that interesting. So pretty much everybody who spoke
Speaker 12: with has expressed interest on going back there.
Speaker 2: Then, yeah, oh absolutely.
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 2: So here's the way I explained it, and hopefully people know.
Speaker 2: Remember this show that was came out twenty years ago,
Speaker 2: which is called Lost. I don't know if you remember that.
Speaker 1: Oh I do.
Speaker 2: Oh thanks that I feel so old, Okay, So I'll
Speaker 2: explain it. So it's this, It's this group of people
Speaker 2: that crash land on an island in the high strangeness
Speaker 2: all over the place, like polar bear on the middle
Speaker 2: of a tropical island, right, weird stuff. So they fight
Speaker 2: and fight and fight, try to get off the island
Speaker 2: for like seasons. Right then they get back to their
Speaker 2: normal lives and then all they can think about is
Speaker 2: trying to get back to this place because it's drawing
Speaker 2: them back. And I'm not going to spoil the show
Speaker 2: because people need to watch it if they haven't, but
Speaker 2: it has a lot of similarities where it for some reason,
Speaker 2: it just seems to draw people back in. So I
Speaker 2: don't know, I haven't quite figured that out. Maybe more
Speaker 2: will be revealed when you know we get back. I'll
Speaker 2: be back July. Big for Society will be right back.
Speaker 2: After these messages, you might even be back sooner. Hopefully
Speaker 2: you're able to get back there soon. But when you
Speaker 2: when you think about that week, were there any other
Speaker 2: instances where you feel like you had an interaction or
Speaker 2: something happened that was Bigfoot related in the same area
Speaker 2: you were out in the woods or besides the mine area.
Speaker 12: Not really. I mean, we had a lot of strange
Speaker 12: sounds around us at different given points, but you know,
Speaker 12: when you're out in the wilderness, there's a lot of
Speaker 12: noises out there, so they were super interesting and you know,
Speaker 12: something more to like into but which we did in
Speaker 12: the moment, but it wasn't this is definitely Bigfoot.
Speaker 2: Was there anything out in the woods that was very
Speaker 2: hard to understand what was going on? Not necessarily Bigfoot related,
Speaker 2: but you just you had no reason as to why
Speaker 2: you found something or heard something or just was totally
Speaker 2: out of the ordinary.
Speaker 12: Well that on that same day, when we were up
Speaker 12: in the the like ghost mining town, we had the
Speaker 12: I think it was camera for we were using the ovulis.
Speaker 12: There's spearbox in the moment, but we had one of
Speaker 12: our devices out and we heard this weird, like little
Speaker 12: screech and it was like no animal had heard before.
Speaker 12: And I was like, it didn't really sound like an animal,
Speaker 12: but it could have been. I'm like, I've never heard
Speaker 12: of the animal before. But the device, I can't remember
Speaker 12: exactly what it said, but I remember it said something
Speaker 12: that connected it to the noise, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 12: that's weird. Or always said that was me. That's what
Speaker 12: it said.
Speaker 4: That was me.
Speaker 12: So it felt kind of separate from the whole Bigfoot thing.
Speaker 12: Felt very paranormal. But that did happen while we were
Speaker 12: up there, and that was the same day that I.
Speaker 4: Saw what I saw.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's interesting because Sherry also had a really weird thing.
Speaker 2: She's talked about this. So in the meadow area, she
Speaker 2: had walked off by herself down the road and this
Speaker 2: is about like this is late at night, so it's
Speaker 2: all dark, and she said that she had heard her
Speaker 2: voice called from the woods multiple times.
Speaker 12: So that's right, that did happen. That was a totally
Speaker 12: different night. Yes, we were actually I was with Chad
Speaker 12: Datama and Jason Kinsey. We had decided we were going
Speaker 12: to cut off of the road. We were up like
Speaker 12: a different mountain side. They had me so many places
Speaker 12: I couldn't hardly keep them straight. But we decided to
Speaker 12: cut off the road and we went up this real
Speaker 12: steep hill and we ended up finding a path, and
Speaker 12: the idea was, oh, cool, this is like a super
Speaker 12: like remote path. Nobody ever hardly uses it. You can
Speaker 12: definitely tell let's just take this path. Eventually it'll get
Speaker 12: us back to the rest of the group. Because we
Speaker 12: had the rest of the group up at the end,
Speaker 12: at the dead end, further up the road, and everybody's
Speaker 12: kind of rebranched off in the smaller groups, everybody's kind
Speaker 12: of doing their own thing. So I was with Jason
Speaker 12: and Chad and we were walking this trail and all
Speaker 12: of a sudden, Jason stops and he goes, do you
Speaker 12: hear that? And I had only heard a little flit
Speaker 12: of it, and I was like, yeah, it sounds like
Speaker 12: people talking. And Chad goes, oh, it's probably just them
Speaker 12: down by the car. And I pull up my map
Speaker 12: because I just felt like we're definitely further than the
Speaker 12: car than we think. So I pull up my naw,
Speaker 12: and I look and I'm like, no, we're right here.
Speaker 12: The car is way over there, and I show them
Speaker 12: on the map and I'm like, there's no way we're
Speaker 12: hearing them talk and regular voices from all the way
Speaker 12: over here. We walk a little bit more and then
Speaker 12: Chad stops right in front of us. He's like, twist
Speaker 12: hear that. And I didn't hear anything that time. And
Speaker 12: I can't remember if Jason had heard at that point
Speaker 12: or not, but I didn't hear at that time. And
Speaker 12: Chad's like, I just heard people talking. And We're like,
Speaker 12: no way, this is so cool. So finally we get
Speaker 12: out and we meet up with the rest of the
Speaker 12: group and then Sherry tells us that she heard voices
Speaker 12: saying her name, and I'm like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 12: We all heard voices. But again, this was yet another area.
Speaker 12: As you know, that whole area over there where those
Speaker 12: mountains and everything are, they are so remote. Most of
Speaker 12: it's only logging mining stuff like that, Like it's just
Speaker 12: access roads. There's not a whole lot of people that's
Speaker 12: gonna frequent that area. And I mean, there's no way.
Speaker 12: It was two o'clock in the morning. I think by
Speaker 12: the time we made it out, so this probably was
Speaker 12: about one am when we were hearing this. There's no
Speaker 12: way there's people up here running around on this mountain
Speaker 12: side down the mountain roads just talking in normal voices
Speaker 12: and we can hear them. There's no way. So that
Speaker 12: was really really strange, and it correlated when we went
Speaker 12: back down and sher you had heard voices as well.
Speaker 2: Now, is this the same time when you guys found
Speaker 2: the wood knots pulled out of the trees up there?
Speaker 12: Yes, okay, so yeah, that was the Yeah, that was
Speaker 12: the same area we were walking and we found three
Speaker 12: wood knots. They were just I don't know if they
Speaker 12: were like banged out of the trees, like the trees
Speaker 12: were turned out ridden, something banged them out, or if
Speaker 12: they were ripped out. But I never knew that knots
Speaker 12: led down in a tree that far. But on the
Speaker 12: other side of the tree, where the knot went inside
Speaker 12: the tree, it extended out probably almost a foot, so
Speaker 12: they were really far into the tree. And I'm thinking, now,
Speaker 12: there's three in a row, and then there was four.
Speaker 12: There was three together, and there was one way off
Speaker 12: up the there was all sitting on a log just perfectly.
Speaker 12: But the fourth one was sitting up further on the log,
Speaker 12: and I'm like, dude, okay, the ones that are right
Speaker 12: here on like blocking this path. There's three of them,
Speaker 12: and there's three of us, and then there's that little
Speaker 12: one up there. What if that's for ava? So we
Speaker 12: were like, you know, we need to like trade gifts.
Speaker 12: So we each left something behind to take the knots,
Speaker 12: and we ended up coming across a tree that was
Speaker 12: laying there and I was like, I was like, oh, guys,
Speaker 12: right here there was a tree that had been eaten
Speaker 12: away by termites a little bit, and there was a
Speaker 12: little tiny piece of a knot sticking out, and I
Speaker 12: was like, let's see how much strength it takes to
Speaker 12: get this knot out of this tree. And so Jason's
Speaker 12: pulling and pulling and pulling, and he can't get it out.
Speaker 12: So I just start like banging away at it and
Speaker 12: even banging away at it, even though the the down
Speaker 12: tree was termite ridden. It took forever, and I just
Speaker 12: chipped away a little bit and exposed a little bit
Speaker 12: more than not. So however, these knots ended up coming
Speaker 12: out of those trees that they were removed from is
Speaker 12: beyond me. But somebody with opposable thumbs, whether it be
Speaker 12: Bigfoot or something else, must have tooken those out and
Speaker 12: just sat them placed them there perfectly.
Speaker 5: But I don't know why.
Speaker 12: It was very interesting though.
Speaker 2: No, absolutely, I know that because I was in the
Speaker 2: group that was hanging out by that vehicle at the
Speaker 2: end of the road, and so I know you guys
Speaker 2: like that was the night you guys went up and
Speaker 2: then you were gone for like forty five minutes to
Speaker 2: an hour, and then we were trying to find you,
Speaker 2: and then you were running down the mountain and we
Speaker 2: happened to intersect with you. So I remember that. So
Speaker 2: that area, that's the meadow area, Yeah, okay, Yeah, So
Speaker 2: that's where Ronnie and Dwayne had their experience where Chad
Speaker 2: saw the Bigfoot at the edge of the meadow where
Speaker 2: Chad's frew up in the tree. The banana got peeled
Speaker 2: and eaten and we found that on the ground the
Speaker 2: next day. That's all in that area, and there's been
Speaker 2: a ton of activity in that area.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So did you ever did you go up to that
Speaker 2: area any other time or is that the only time
Speaker 2: that you had gone up to that area there.
Speaker 12: I do remember we went there one of the earlier
Speaker 12: nights we were there. I think it was either the
Speaker 12: first or second night we were there, and Chad wanted
Speaker 12: to show us what he called the banana tree where
Speaker 12: he hung all the fruit and stuff, And when we
Speaker 12: went back to go look at it, he was like
Speaker 12: freaking out because something had yet again manipulated that whole
Speaker 12: area and moved to around again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, taking the fruit out.
Speaker 12: Oh, I guess we went.
Speaker 4: There that night.
Speaker 12: Yeah, there that night and then I guess, yeah, I
Speaker 12: guess it was the same area. Uh, seven nights later
Speaker 12: when those stuff happened.
Speaker 2: That's wild. That is just that's so incredible, especially if
Speaker 2: you once you start hearing everyone's story and you start
Speaker 2: piecing it together. It is very very cool. I mean
Speaker 2: because you have I mean Jason and Chad staying in
Speaker 2: a tent by themselves in that same area, which is wild.
Speaker 2: I talked to them about that too. Do you know
Speaker 2: if the whole team is planning on going back to
Speaker 2: the festival next year?
Speaker 12: Yes, yeah, we've all agreed that we're all going to
Speaker 12: go as the whole team.
Speaker 2: Did you have any interesting people that shared sighting reports
Speaker 2: to you? Guys over there.
Speaker 12: Yeah, there was a lot of I think that a
Speaker 12: lot of paranormal reports came to me just because I
Speaker 12: think it was one of the few openly paranormal investigators there,
Speaker 12: just because that's my forte. I had a lot of
Speaker 12: paranormal stories come my way. I talked a lot with Bill.
Speaker 12: He shared some of his experiences with me. Yeah, there
Speaker 12: was just a lot of the people, mostly speakers. We
Speaker 12: were all talking, and then I got quite a few
Speaker 12: paranormal stories.
Speaker 2: Did you get any reports of like the Fay or
Speaker 2: anything like that in that area?
Speaker 12: Actually, no nobody ever came in talk to me about
Speaker 12: any kind of Fay experiences.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've had one person reach out to me, but
Speaker 2: they wouldn't come on the show, and they just said
Speaker 2: they've had experiences with Fay and woodland spirits and weird
Speaker 2: stuff like that in that area. So I couldn't get
Speaker 2: them to go into details, but something to keep keep
Speaker 2: an ear out for. I wouldn't recommend. I'm going to
Speaker 2: close this out first, So Gwendolyn, it has been a
Speaker 2: pleasure chatting with you. It's great to finally get you
Speaker 2: on the show and to get your version of what
Speaker 2: happened during Sasquatch Summerfest last year. Thank you for coming on.
Speaker 12: Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2: Jeremiah, all right, Shery, go ahead.
Speaker 8: Hi.
Speaker 13: I'm Sherry and I'm from Searching for Sasquatch. I am
Speaker 13: an investigator forum and I do the film. And I
Speaker 13: went up to Oregon from the twenty first and Chad
Speaker 13: and Gwendolyn and Jason went up this one hill and went.
Speaker 5: For a walk out in the woods. And I was
Speaker 5: on the road with Steve and you and.
Speaker 13: Priscilla was sleeping in the car, and I got bored talking,
Speaker 13: so I went for a walk and I ended up
Speaker 13: where they went up in the hill, and I was
Speaker 13: just walking and all of a sudden, I hear Sherry,
Speaker 13: and I'm like Gwendolene, and nobody's answer me. So I
Speaker 13: started talking to it and never answered back. So I
Speaker 13: went back and I told you guys that I heard
Speaker 13: my name and ended up that was the same hill
Speaker 13: that the three of them went up. And when Jason
Speaker 13: was out in the woods, he heard talking out there.
Speaker 2: He did. Yes, Oh he didn't tell me about that.
Speaker 13: Yeah, he said, oh I heard from talking out there too, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, interesting how far away from the meadow area was
Speaker 2: this where you heard the voice?
Speaker 13: I don't know how far, maybe half a mile, okay, yep,
Speaker 13: so it was in between the meadow and the gotcha where.
Speaker 2: We were about halfway. I was a little freaked out, actually,
Speaker 2: I remember that. I was like, I didn't sign up
Speaker 2: for voices coming out of the woods.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I'm not going back. I asked you guys
Speaker 5: to go back, and I don't do with those yeahs.
Speaker 2: After the events of the after the events of the festival,
Speaker 2: on the twenty third, which is a Tuesday, Jason and
Speaker 2: Chad had a camp out up in the Oak Hole area.
Speaker 2: I was able to sit down with Jason and then
Speaker 2: Chad separately virtually and get their thoughts about what happened
Speaker 2: when they were up there doing a camp out by themselves,
Speaker 2: if anything happened.
Speaker 14: My name is Jason Kensey. I am an animal expert.
Speaker 14: I am a bigfoot and encrypted researcher, and I'm also
Speaker 14: a filmmaker. And there's is what happened in Oakridge going
Speaker 14: over into the meadow where there has been people being
Speaker 14: bored at and eyeshine being seen. So on Tuesday, July
Speaker 14: twenty third, Chad Dateman and I. We traveled up into
Speaker 14: this area. We could see smoke from the fires, the
Speaker 14: wildfires that were burning all around us. The largest wildfire
Speaker 14: in the United States burning not too far from us.
Speaker 2: It is stop us big, so society will be right back.
Speaker 15: After these messages, we drove into this meadow where people
Speaker 15: had these sightings, not just audio, but they have.
Speaker 14: Actual class A sidings where they actually see the creatures.
Speaker 14: And it started like any you know, any ordinary camping
Speaker 14: and exploring went into this really nice meadow area was
Speaker 14: covered with wildflowers. It was quite pretty and we were
Speaker 14: surrounded by thousands of acres of forest all around us.
Speaker 14: We put out banana and some doughnuts right behind our tent,
Speaker 14: hoping that in the night these creatures would come walking up.
Speaker 14: And I was very excited hoping that if we could
Speaker 14: hear them coming around. So as the sun was setting,
Speaker 14: I put out my camera gear and we got ready
Speaker 14: and when the darkness hit and after, you know, nothing
Speaker 14: happening for a while. There was a couple of birds
Speaker 14: that kind of went off in the darkness, which I
Speaker 14: always find odd because easy birds are sleeping and they
Speaker 14: usually squawk if you know, something comes around to disturb them.
Speaker 14: So we decided to go for a little walk in
Speaker 14: the darkness of the forest, leaving our tents by themselves.
Speaker 14: And as we walked in the darkness and we looked around,
Speaker 14: we saw this massive tree, like a structure where the
Speaker 14: tree was kind of pushed over. Obviously it could have
Speaker 14: been just snowload. Went up to it and we looked
Speaker 14: at it, and it looked like, you know, you could
Speaker 14: see that something could be sleeping under it because it
Speaker 14: was still live. The tree was still live, and you
Speaker 14: could see that the way that the branches were lying down,
Speaker 14: you could see that something had been lying there. And
Speaker 14: after you know, looking around some more and we really didn't,
Speaker 14: you know, see anything or find anything. And we went
Speaker 14: back to camp that evening. We went to bed about
Speaker 14: I won't say, maybe one in the morning. And up
Speaker 14: to that moment there wasn't much that went on in
Speaker 14: the night. While we were sleeping. I did get woken
Speaker 14: up by something walking around the tent. It wasn't too
Speaker 14: close to the tent, it was into the forest. Now,
Speaker 14: I did listen to it for a little bit walk around,
Speaker 14: and so I got up and I went over and
Speaker 14: I I peeked out of the tent. We had a
Speaker 14: tent that we had these giant windows, and we didn't
Speaker 14: have anything, no car for nothing, covering the tent, so
Speaker 14: I could just see right out as long as I
Speaker 14: put the light right up to the screen. And I
Speaker 14: didn't see anything. I definitely could hear something walking. So
Speaker 14: in the morning we woke up, it was early, maybe
Speaker 14: about seven am, and as we stood there just picking
Speaker 14: in all the beauty around us, there was a roar
Speaker 14: that came out from the forest. It was quite far away,
Speaker 14: but it was definitely a roar of something. I would
Speaker 14: say it's probably about two miles away. I wouldn't know,
Speaker 14: and not one hundred percent because I didn't have mentioned tape,
Speaker 14: but I know it wasn't too close to the camp
Speaker 14: and you could barely hear it. We almost missed it
Speaker 14: just at that moment we had stopped. Sadly, I didn't
Speaker 14: have my camera rolling, and if I did, it probably
Speaker 14: wouldn't have picked it up. But it did roar twice,
Speaker 14: and it was pretty cruel. I was hoping that it
Speaker 14: was going to move closer to where we were. I
Speaker 14: was very shocked that a lot of the sightings and
Speaker 14: a lot of the roars that people have been hearing
Speaker 14: have been in broad daylight, like within one hundred feet
Speaker 14: in the forest, roaring at them. Now, I'm not saying
Speaker 14: that what roared that day that morning was a big foot,
Speaker 14: but it was kind of neat to hear it. And
Speaker 14: then after a couple hours of nothing else happening, we
Speaker 14: basically just jumped into the truck and we drove back
Speaker 14: to base camp.
Speaker 2: How loud were the footsteps that were around your tent?
Speaker 14: Well, to be honest, I it was probably a smaller animal.
Speaker 14: There's something you can you can kind of hear when
Speaker 14: when something heavy is walking And I was lying there
Speaker 14: and you know, just looking up the ceiling of the
Speaker 14: tent listening to something, which is you know, breaking twigs
Speaker 14: and breaking stuff behind the tent. The doughnuts were still there,
Speaker 14: and same with the banana. The banana was still there.
Speaker 14: So whatever it was walking around it definitely wasn't interested
Speaker 14: in the yumminess that was out there on the branches.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, did you have any visceral reaction to when you
Speaker 2: heard that role or is that similar to things you've
Speaker 2: heard before?
Speaker 14: Is similar to what I've heard before. The things I've
Speaker 14: heard before have been much closer and much louder, but
Speaker 14: definitely was. It's interesting how a lot of the sightings
Speaker 14: and whatnot have been going on during broad daylight. I've
Speaker 14: interviewed hundreds of people on their encounters with seeing Bigfoot
Speaker 14: or having experiences with Bigfoot, and I would say ninety
Speaker 14: percent of the time, it's always at night, either right
Speaker 14: before sunset or just after sunset, or in the middle
Speaker 14: of the night. So it's interesting how these creatures are
Speaker 14: moving around and there's a lot of activity in broad daylight,
Speaker 14: which I believe maybe because the fires were going on,
Speaker 14: because we could see smoke, like we could actually see
Speaker 14: billowing smoke from the fires, like we were not far away.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's different than when I was up there. So
Speaker 2: that's that's pretty scary stuff. You could actually see the
Speaker 2: smoke clear, well not clear, but you see billowing. That's wild.
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, we were close. It was it's it was
Speaker 14: I don't know now, but then it was the biggest
Speaker 14: walledfire in the United States, so that was that was
Speaker 14: pretty pretty crazy. You know, we could have we could
Speaker 14: have turned sideways quite fast in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2: The bird noise that you heard in the dark, do
Speaker 2: you remember any specifics about was it a short noise
Speaker 2: or a longer noise or do you any remember any
Speaker 2: specifics about that.
Speaker 14: It was long? It was a longer noise.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it was.
Speaker 14: To be honest, I really haven't heard that bird sound before,
Speaker 14: not like that it was. It actually sounded odd, And
Speaker 14: now that I'm now that I'm thinking about it, we
Speaker 14: actually heard it during the day too, like in the morning,
Speaker 14: right before the roar, we heard that sound again and
Speaker 14: it went on a few times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that lines up exactly with what happened. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that sounds very familiar because Denise, you know, actually communicates
Speaker 2: back and forth with the bird mimic sound in that area,
Speaker 2: and it's just it's like a bird sound that's just
Speaker 2: a little bit different than anything you've heard. And I
Speaker 2: don't know if you were able to see that happen,
Speaker 2: but it's a very very weird thing to watch just
Speaker 2: her make the bird noise and then the whatever it
Speaker 2: is in the woods go back and forth and back
Speaker 2: and forth with like half a second between. And so
Speaker 2: hopefully she's talked about that earlier in this episode.
Speaker 14: So well, the funny thing is, I mean, I don't
Speaker 14: know why I forgot about this but actually filmed.
Speaker 4: Us.
Speaker 14: I think Chat and I we were We were like,
Speaker 14: I was squawking back and forth to this bird and
Speaker 14: it was answering me back and forth. And then I
Speaker 14: did something. I think I howled or something, and it stopped.
Speaker 14: And I turned to Chat and he said I must
Speaker 14: have told it to offer something. It totally stopped. But
Speaker 14: I do remember, I think I filmed it. I have
Speaker 14: to go back and look at the footage to see
Speaker 14: you bike, but I do remember talking, or at least communicating.
Speaker 14: I was being silly back and forth, and it was
Speaker 14: answering me back, and then I did something and it stopped.
Speaker 14: But at she stopped, and I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 14: that was interesting.
Speaker 2: We had a similar situation happen on Sunday where Denise
Speaker 2: was communicating back and forth and another individual from the
Speaker 2: party started trying to do a different bird sound and
Speaker 2: that cut things off entirely. It was very strange and
Speaker 2: the thing I've already talked to you, and I'd love
Speaker 2: to talk to you about. So you guys actually stayed overnight.
Speaker 2: You tent camped in that area as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we did a solo right where we got roared
Speaker 4: at and right where I heard the thing whatever crashed
Speaker 4: the woods. I didn't see it, so I'm going to
Speaker 4: say what it was, but Dwayne said it was dark
Speaker 4: and big three people heard it. Dwayne's the only one
Speaker 4: that saw it. We camped right there and it was
Speaker 4: really quiet. It was early quiet. But the next morning,
Speaker 4: around ten am, there was one long roar, but it
Speaker 4: was at a much further distance, but it was definitely clear.
Speaker 4: It was the same thing that I heard, it was
Speaker 4: just further away, and so, yeah, I heard it there.
Speaker 2: What day again, was it that you had camped out
Speaker 2: with Jason there?
Speaker 4: So that would have been Jasonnesday. Jason left on Thursday, right,
Speaker 4: Jason left on Tuesday. I think it was Tuesday, I
Speaker 4: think so? Wait, No, Sunday was the last day of
Speaker 4: the conference? Monday? No, Tuesday night, Yeah, because we didn't
Speaker 4: camp out on Monday. We drove around and did other stuff.
Speaker 4: It was Tuesday night we camped out, and then Sherry
Speaker 4: and I camped out solo Wednesday night because Jason left
Speaker 4: Wednesday morning.
Speaker 2: At any point, did you hear anything so besides vocalizations,
Speaker 2: did you hear anything else weird in the woods when
Speaker 2: you were camping out there?
Speaker 4: We'd hear break or crack here and there, but really
Speaker 4: not a whole lot other than the day with Duayanne.
Speaker 4: With the one, we could hear really loud move and
Speaker 4: we'd hear it every multiple seconds and break another branch
Speaker 4: or step on something. Nothing that was intimidating.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, You've been involved with many, many different research expeditions.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like there is something going on in
Speaker 2: that area or it is just a group of people
Speaker 2: that are amped up? And I already know what I
Speaker 2: would say, but I'm just curious what you're going to say.
Speaker 4: I have never experienced so much activity in such a
Speaker 4: short period of time in my life, and I've experienced
Speaker 4: a lot of activity habituating groups in my area that so, no,
Speaker 4: there was something. I almost wonder if the fires were
Speaker 4: I don't know. But then all the reports, Jeremiah, all
Speaker 4: the reports in the areas that we were put where
Speaker 4: people say were a lot hunters. I mean, I'm told
Speaker 4: there's people that won't hunt in this area anymore. And
Speaker 4: the area that we did all this research is like
Speaker 4: a one square mile circle, and so I think there
Speaker 4: is something there. I don't know if the fires irritated
Speaker 4: them or whatnot. Or just us being there did, But
Speaker 4: I do know after the second night things did slow down,
Speaker 4: but they didn't totally stop.
Speaker 2: Sure, I've made the mistake of telling some people that
Speaker 2: are not Bigfoot people about what I experienced up there
Speaker 2: on Thursday, and they absolutely think that I'm crazy now.
Speaker 2: And it's just the stuff that happened during that week
Speaker 2: in that area was a special kind of intense that
Speaker 2: I've never experienced before. It's very, very weird up in
Speaker 2: that area. One hundred percent.
Speaker 4: I'm still working for I'm looking forward to next year.
Speaker 2: I've already committed to go back to Yeah, I told Percilla, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I will definitely be back there. No, Yeah, I talked
Speaker 2: to everyone I need to and I'll be there one
Speaker 2: hundred percent. I would not miss it. Hopefully I'll be
Speaker 2: wearing pants not shorts though, so no reactions this time.
Speaker 2: Big for Society will be right back. After these messages,
Speaker 2: on Wednesday the twenty fourth, Sherry and Chad were able
Speaker 2: to also have a overnight camp out in the same area.
Speaker 2: What follows is a quick interview with Sherry telling about
Speaker 2: what happened on the overnight of Wednesday the twenty fourth.
Speaker 13: On the Wednesday, the twenty fourth, we went up by
Speaker 13: the field again and camped out and Chad and I
Speaker 13: it was about eleven o'clock and we played music really
Speaker 13: really loud, and we're dancing on the road trying to
Speaker 13: get attention, and then we just went to bed and
Speaker 13: we didn't really get anything that night without Maybe that
Speaker 13: would cause get some attention, but I guess they were
Speaker 13: fed up with us.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Were the fires pretty bad up there at that time?
Speaker 13: Uh no, the fire the smoke was not as bad
Speaker 13: that night during the conference that was horrible.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, it was right. It wasn't that bad
Speaker 5: up there. I still don't have my voice back though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of there too. What kind of music
Speaker 2: were you playing up there?
Speaker 13: Oh, Chad's music eighties rock, nice, annoying, annoying music.
Speaker 2: I guess they weren't paying of it.
Speaker 12: No, we'll see.
Speaker 13: Last time we did that somewhere we got attention from
Speaker 13: and we got stuff thrown at us.
Speaker 5: So I don't do it again. But it wasn't there.
Speaker 5: It was up in Michigan. Looked at that.
Speaker 2: I talked to Jason the other day. He had said
Speaker 2: that there when they went up, which would have been
Speaker 2: the night before they had put out some things around
Speaker 2: the tent. Did you guys put out anything at all?
Speaker 5: Uh, we didn't put anything.
Speaker 13: The banana was still there, and when they they put
Speaker 13: the doughnuts out and that was still there.
Speaker 2: Too, untouched. Yeah, okay, did you hear any weird birds?
Speaker 2: At night? Up there?
Speaker 5: We had whistling?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, tell me about the whistling, just a you.
Speaker 5: Know, a whistle in the middle of the night. You
Speaker 5: know that's it.
Speaker 2: Really Do you remember what time of night approximately there was?
Speaker 13: Could have been out two o'clock, because yeah, I had
Speaker 13: to go pet gotcha and I went up there and
Speaker 13: I got a whistle.
Speaker 4: It was loud.
Speaker 2: You were out there by yourself to relieve yourself and
Speaker 2: something whistled at you from the woods. Right, How did
Speaker 2: that make you feel?
Speaker 4: It was cool?
Speaker 2: Or you're like whatever? You know, it's not the craziest
Speaker 2: thing I've experienced.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I've had screens at me in that whistles. I'm
Speaker 13: just saying, hey, how are you doing?
Speaker 2: Sure? Yeah, you're kind of whatever about it. You said
Speaker 2: it was it was pretty loud. Can you describe how
Speaker 2: loud it was?
Speaker 13: Well, it was off in the woods and I heard it.
Speaker 13: It was off by the field back there, and.
Speaker 5: It was proving a lot.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 5: It was like somebody was right by me and doing
Speaker 5: it kind of. That's how lowed it was. It got
Speaker 5: that but it you know, it was far away, but
Speaker 5: I could hear that clearly.
Speaker 2: So were you you were camped in the field though,
Speaker 2: in the meadow? Correct?
Speaker 13: No, No, we're planting. We were on the opposite side,
Speaker 13: in another field. It was through the woods on the
Speaker 13: other side. It was flattered over there, So that's.
Speaker 5: Where we went. We were across across we were were
Speaker 5: Ronnie was putting food up.
Speaker 2: Oh, so you were tent camping over by where people
Speaker 2: would hang out in nylon chairs and put up bananas
Speaker 2: in the tree and stuff. Right, That's funny because I
Speaker 2: remember talking to people. I was like, they're probably going
Speaker 2: to be over here because there's no way you could
Speaker 2: tent camp in that meadow because it's all torn up
Speaker 2: and there's lots of holes. Yeah, okay, interesting. Did you
Speaker 2: experience anything else that night That may not have seemed
Speaker 2: like a big deal to you, but still you experienced it.
Speaker 1: No, that was it.
Speaker 5: And we got up about noon and we left because
Speaker 5: we had to go catch.
Speaker 2: The plane, gotcha. No knocks, no vocalizations know anything with that? No, okay,
Speaker 2: not that I heard perfect. Were there any points up
Speaker 2: there when it got extremely quiet or was it just
Speaker 2: normal for it?
Speaker 5: It was quiet the whole time. That's why the whistle
Speaker 5: was so out there, it was there was no sound.
Speaker 2: Can you explain what the quiet was like up there?
Speaker 13: I don't know, you know, how, something's just there's no birds,
Speaker 13: no frogs, no no bugs, and there's just no sound.
Speaker 5: It's that kind of eerie.
Speaker 2: But I like it, Okay, Yeah, I mean I experienced
Speaker 2: it too up there, and that was the first time
Speaker 2: I experienced it, and it was a little off putting
Speaker 2: because there was a new one for me, and I
Speaker 2: was like, man, it is so quiet that it is
Speaker 2: weird hearing myself think, and it's just overwhelming. But I
Speaker 2: just wanted to see you kind of experienced the same
Speaker 2: thing up there. But yeah, okay, last question, so the
Speaker 2: bananas when you when you left the area, the bananas
Speaker 2: were still untouched from the time when Chad and Jason
Speaker 2: put them out right, Okay, gotcha? Very interesting? All right, Well, Scher,
Speaker 2: thank you for sharing about what you experienced up in
Speaker 2: the woods of that area.
Speaker 13: Over that week, Jerry Barsha and I was up in
Speaker 13: Oregon and we were on Mile Meyerk for two and
Speaker 13: we pulled. We pulled up on the side of the
Speaker 13: road and we walked down the guard rail and Jason
Speaker 13: found a footprint and we're like, all right, yeah, So
Speaker 13: I casted it, and then I told Jason go walk
Speaker 13: down the rest of the way all by yourself so
Speaker 13: you don't contaminate anymore. Because we had a few people
Speaker 13: with us and they're trampling stuff. We had to guard it,
Speaker 13: especially little kids. So he went down there and he
Speaker 13: found another print. So Chad did that one, and I
Speaker 13: don't know if it was kind of resembled a bear maybe,
Speaker 13: but I don't know, but that one he did that one,
Speaker 13: and then we found handprints on the railing. I took
Speaker 13: pictures of that, and then I went We left for
Speaker 13: to dry and did other things. I went and got
Speaker 13: a tattoo and they went back later in the day
Speaker 13: at night.
Speaker 2: The footprint that you casted, do you remember any details
Speaker 2: about it that were the ordinary or was it pretty straightforward?
Speaker 13: The track had a big, really big toe. You could
Speaker 13: see the details of the other toes in it it
Speaker 13: was and it was I think Jason measured it.
Speaker 4: What do you say?
Speaker 13: It was fourteen inches? So yeah, And I didn't get
Speaker 13: to see it after it got got picked up.
Speaker 2: Were you involved in it all with retrieving the track
Speaker 2: cast and what happened after that?
Speaker 5: No, No, I went to the I got it.
Speaker 13: I was getting my tattoo done, okay, And they went
Speaker 13: back to get it the print and that one was
Speaker 13: gone that Chad did, Gotchad.
Speaker 5: The the other one was farther down right, so they didn't.
Speaker 5: Whoever did it didn't see that one.
Speaker 2: Exactly. Did your tattoo come out?
Speaker 3: Good?
Speaker 5: I love it. Let's speak for it with freez.
Speaker 6: No way.
Speaker 2: Where'd you get it at?
Speaker 4: Was in town?
Speaker 2: Awesome? Well sherif thank you?
Speaker 5: Oh go ahead, yep, No, I don't know nothing.
Speaker 2: You're good. Thank you so much for Sharon what you
Speaker 2: experienced up there. Our last interview will be with Priscilla
Speaker 2: rosemand Davidson, who spends a few minutes talking about what
Speaker 2: she experienced during the events of twenty twenty four Sasquatch Summerfest. Enjoy. So, Prisilla,
Speaker 2: were there any other things you were involved with or
Speaker 2: times you were up in the oak Hoole area during
Speaker 2: Sasquatch Summer Fest twoenty twenty four that things happened.
Speaker 5: So we had on out.
Speaker 10: We had two vehicles going there and they were filled.
Speaker 9: I think we had all of the searching for Sasquatch crew, myself,
Speaker 9: my husband, my friend Susie who was driving the other vehicle.
Speaker 10: I don't recall who all was there, but I know
Speaker 10: I think were you there.
Speaker 2: It was the night when they got almost got lost, right.
Speaker 10: Yes, yeah, and so Sherry.
Speaker 9: We were at the the end of the road and
Speaker 9: the guys and Sherry and when they got out, and
Speaker 9: Cherry had heard something called her name, which was she
Speaker 9: was kind of terrified when she got back to the car,
Speaker 9: I mean excited, you know, but she's like.
Speaker 4: Is that my name had?
Speaker 10: My name said Cherry? But she was she was super
Speaker 10: excited about that. She's like, no, my name.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. And then were you involved with a trip that
Speaker 2: went to an abandoned mine area in the region of
Speaker 2: Oakridge during that time? What was that another.
Speaker 10: The Bohemian mines. So we went we went up to
Speaker 10: the Bohemia mines.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 10: We wanted to just show them the area. And there's
Speaker 10: a ghost town in there east of Cottage Grove, and.
Speaker 1: But I don't.
Speaker 9: I don't remember any anything happening. If there was there
Speaker 9: was an experience or something, I wasn't a part of it.
Speaker 9: I may be in the car or I don't know,
Speaker 9: but I don't remember anything happening at the caves.
Speaker 2: That's extremely interesting. There was actually and this is just
Speaker 2: off to the side, but I had interviewed Gwendolyn Guthrie.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember her when when they
Speaker 2: were up there, she had a sighting when she was
Speaker 2: walking out on the road.
Speaker 9: Yes, okay, yeah, we weren't out a cave when that happened.
Speaker 9: So what there was there was a deer and then
Speaker 9: there was a baby deer and they got separated, the
Speaker 9: mama and the baby.
Speaker 10: So I was, you know, me and Glenn were.
Speaker 9: Like yelling at Steve to slow down and let the
Speaker 9: baby get back with its mom, you know, and like
Speaker 9: the pace that he had, like he was He's like, no,
Speaker 9: the deer is going to go, it will find his mom,
Speaker 9: It'll be okay.
Speaker 10: And then it didn't. It just kept traveling down.
Speaker 4: The road, you know.
Speaker 10: And then so when it's like no, just I'm getting out.
Speaker 10: I'm getting out I'm going to help guide the baby
Speaker 10: back to his mom.
Speaker 7: And then so she.
Speaker 9: She was outside the vehicle and Steve was like driving
Speaker 9: really really slow, and then she's like, I'm so bad
Speaker 9: at measuring distance, like one hundred.
Speaker 10: Yards ahead of us, and.
Speaker 4: And she.
Speaker 10: She got totally scared from a.
Speaker 9: Shadow that was very tall, like I mean, you know,
Speaker 9: it was dark, and she's seen something move past in
Speaker 9: front of her, and which she returned to the vehicle
Speaker 9: after that because she she had ran into something that
Speaker 9: was very large on two feet and tall, I mean
Speaker 9: she she thinks it was probably around eight feet tall.
Speaker 9: So I completely slipped my mind.
Speaker 10: It was gone.
Speaker 2: That's sometimes you know, you just need to lead someone
Speaker 2: a little bit. Yeah, oh yeah, right, what that was
Speaker 2: on Sunday?
Speaker 10: I believe?
Speaker 2: So yeah, was it uh morning or afternoon?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 9: My event was Friday, Saurday, Sunday. Sunday was not a
Speaker 9: full day and festival, so it was Sunday night.
Speaker 2: Okay. That's crazy. So pretty much at a similar time,
Speaker 2: when you guys are experiencing that, that's when we were
Speaker 2: having the events happen in ok.
Speaker 4: Cool. With the.
Speaker 2: Well, there's let's see. The big thing was the audio
Speaker 2: being recorded and I couldn't move out of my chair
Speaker 2: for five minutes and stuff like that. So yeah, that's
Speaker 2: another thing right anyways, But oh, Alicia, just double check
Speaker 2: at that point during the events of Sasquat Summer Fest
Speaker 2: in July, did you have any interaction with anything weird
Speaker 2: that you would want to mention or did all of
Speaker 2: that happen after that whole experience In terms of.
Speaker 16: The O coal location, I have out there yet, But
Speaker 16: do you mean like other places too?
Speaker 2: I guess more like you didn't have any like random
Speaker 2: adventures where you're like, yeah, I went up a poor
Speaker 2: service road and something weird happened, anything like that out here?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Okay, No, I was I think it was after the festival.
Speaker 10: I was actually trying to get to.
Speaker 16: The backside of Spirit was a Spirit Lake that you've
Speaker 16: mentioned that I told you I wanted to check out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have been quite a travel for you,
Speaker 2: but that I think that would have been the way.
Speaker 16: Yeah, so well, but my navigation claimed almost that there
Speaker 16: was like a trailhead to a back way to it
Speaker 16: rather than going down to Waldo Wilderness area, that you
Speaker 16: could get to it from Sam like the backside of
Speaker 16: it from Sammon Creek Road, and I it basically brought
Speaker 16: me to like a cliff face and said that the
Speaker 16: trailhead was supposed to be there. There was absolutely no
Speaker 16: trail so and I hung out there. So I was like, well,
Speaker 16: I drove all this way, so I might as well
Speaker 16: just hang out here with my dog and stuff.
Speaker 10: And it was complete quiet.
Speaker 16: I mean, I wasn't really trying to stir stuff up,
Speaker 16: but I mean it seems like a great place where
Speaker 16: there'd be potential activity.
Speaker 11: But nothing happened there.
Speaker 16: But I really want to go to that like a
Speaker 16: sunset and see if things happen like the allegend, you know.
Speaker 2: Share Lake, the one where the sasquash with dreadlocks will
Speaker 2: chase people out of it.
Speaker 16: Yeah, and then can you say, also, like the logs
Speaker 16: will kind of come to the center and do like
Speaker 16: a little vortext thing.
Speaker 2: That's the story. Yep, They'll all go to the center
Speaker 2: and make a vore text every night. Yeah. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean it would be awesome to get to see if
Speaker 2: it's just a legend or not. Right, But yeah, but
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