Speaker 1: Voices drift on winds untape, where it's like spells that
Speaker 1: can't be made.
Speaker 2: Close your eyes and feel the sound journey where no
Speaker 2: bounds are found, Open.
Speaker 3: Doors inside your.
Speaker 4: Mind, the ordinary form, because.
Speaker 5: Color swirls and stars lie in the meta mysteries you find.
Speaker 3: Welcome to meta mysteries where you don't know what you
Speaker 3: don't know. My name is Jonathan, I'm Sean, and sorry
Speaker 3: for the late start here, the one out there, because
Speaker 3: I just so happened to have a technical difficulties today.
Speaker 3: I was trying to blame it on Sean. I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna lie. He's a little bit Usually he's a little
Speaker 3: bit more technically illiterate than I am. But today just
Speaker 3: so happened to be a day where I was the
Speaker 3: bad guy and my cord decided to give out. But
Speaker 3: that's all right. Everything happens in divine timing, and I
Speaker 3: did want to as everybody's gonna start to trickle in
Speaker 3: here in a little bit. First off, thank you for
Speaker 3: joining us on Wonder Wednesday. We couldn't get to it
Speaker 3: last week because of like it's been forever. Man, it
Speaker 3: does feel like it's been forever. Yeah, I don't like
Speaker 3: it We're never gonna do that again. Vacations completely off
Speaker 3: the board, canceled, not doing it anymore. So, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I just wanted to say thank you guys so much
Speaker 3: for joining us. And we always like to try and
Speaker 3: have like a really awesome topic for the live shows.
Speaker 3: But tonight we have a great guest, and we have
Speaker 3: a bunch of great guests lined up here in the
Speaker 3: next few weeks. We've got Lord Byron Jester coming back
Speaker 3: next week. But this week we got a first timer,
Speaker 3: Shannon Torrent's psychic medium, voice, actor and host of the
Speaker 3: podcast called Magic Is Real. Damn, I can't believe I
Speaker 3: just banged that out of the park. It so Welcome
Speaker 3: to the show, Shannon, how are you.
Speaker 6: I'm doing great now.
Speaker 7: I've had a really nice day of podcasting and then
Speaker 7: I have I'm getting to spend time with you guys,
Speaker 7: and so far, I think it's going really well. I
Speaker 7: really I think you're great at what you do and
Speaker 7: I really like who you are so far, so we're
Speaker 7: on it.
Speaker 6: We're off to a good start.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you. Yeah, I think I think this
Speaker 3: is going to be a very interesting kind of conversation.
Speaker 3: We've had conversations with so many different types of people,
Speaker 3: whether it be into metaphysics or telekinesis, psychic abilities, witchcraft,
Speaker 3: blood magic, like it's all over the place. I also
Speaker 3: just introduce myself to you because this is our first
Speaker 3: time meeting. I do the Dolores Canon QHHT pass life
Speaker 3: regressions as well, just as on the side. I mean,
Speaker 3: I can't do them as often as I would like,
Speaker 3: but I like to try and do like one a
Speaker 3: month or something like that, just to just to keep
Speaker 3: everything greased up, and so I don't forget everything. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I've been doing that for I don't know how many years,
Speaker 3: three years or something like that now, and uh so, yeah,
Speaker 3: we we get into a lot of stuff we I
Speaker 3: don't I'm sure. I don't even have to ask you.
Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna ask you about taro. Normally we
Speaker 3: like to ask tarot cards, like are you okay with
Speaker 3: tarot cards? Are you against tarot cards? Unfortunately, it has
Speaker 3: to be a disclaimer on this show because some people
Speaker 3: are very they think it's from Beel's Above or something
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 8: So you know, no Shade Throne, it's whatever people are comfortable.
Speaker 7: I ask my own clients if I ever decide to
Speaker 7: pull them. I'm like, are you comfortable with this? Because
Speaker 7: I don't know why you're comfortable with me talking to
Speaker 7: dead people but not with pulling cards.
Speaker 3: But I answer, yeah, yeah. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 3: I just gave myself a reading last night because normally
Speaker 3: Sean pulls all the cards for this show, and I,
Speaker 3: you know, we kind of dive into them a little
Speaker 3: bit together. But I usually don't pull cards for myself
Speaker 3: very often, and if I do, it's not every day.
Speaker 3: I know some people like to do it every day.
Speaker 3: I kind of like to work with mine a little
Speaker 3: bit because I go with like the where did I
Speaker 3: come from? Where am I at? Where am I going?
Speaker 3: Kind of situation with a three card polls, So I
Speaker 3: want to work with that and make sure you know it.
Speaker 3: It resonates and I don't forget it, and I just
Speaker 3: want to make it special in that way. But I
Speaker 3: do know that some people. Are you somebody that likes
Speaker 3: to pull Tarot cards?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: Is that like an everyday kind of occurrence? How do
Speaker 3: you work with it?
Speaker 6: I have them, I'm not listening. I'm not like a
Speaker 6: Tarot reader.
Speaker 7: I still every kind of I know the gist of them,
Speaker 7: and obviously you can read them intuitively and you don't
Speaker 7: have to be know the true meanings, but I still
Speaker 7: have to look them up every day just to refresh, like, Okay,
Speaker 7: I kind of know what this is, but let me
Speaker 7: just look up the meaning and I'll usually just google it,
Speaker 7: depending or I'll last chat GPT. I will say I
Speaker 7: pulled this card and I asked this specific question, because
Speaker 7: that can be kind of tricky to figure out yourself
Speaker 7: unless you're a pro. But I pull cards for myself,
Speaker 7: not every day, but like kind of at the beginning
Speaker 7: of the day, I'm like, what do you want me
Speaker 7: to not today? Spirit, And then at the end of
Speaker 7: the day, I might be like, hey, I might ask
Speaker 7: a specific question. I just and that's how I learn it.
Speaker 7: But I'm not like a terror reader, you know, And
Speaker 7: sometimes I might just if I feel pulled, I'll say
Speaker 7: to a client, hey, do you want like I kind
Speaker 7: of feel drawn to pulling a card for you? And
Speaker 7: then I turns out, you know, a friend of mine
Speaker 7: asked me to do them for her the other day,
Speaker 7: and she's like, that is so spot on. Actually it
Speaker 7: was like someone I just met, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 7: maybe I do know how to read them. But you know,
Speaker 7: I don't claim to be a terror reader.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that. To be completely honest with you,
Speaker 3: I think that the magic is not about how you're
Speaker 3: shuffling them. I don't think it has anything to do
Speaker 3: with that. I think that's a mechanism, but it has
Speaker 3: it's completely out of your hands. All the cards are
Speaker 3: not facing you at all. You I mean, if especially
Speaker 3: if there's no bends or any ribs or anything in
Speaker 3: the cards, and all the cards look exactly the same
Speaker 3: from the bottom side, like it's it's it seems as
Speaker 3: if it's happening by chance. But we all know, being
Speaker 3: in this spiritual world, I mean, chance is our spiritual
Speaker 3: playground over here, right, Like everything that could coincidentally happen
Speaker 3: what some people may call a coincidence, it's like not,
Speaker 3: there's no way not.
Speaker 6: I don't believe it. I think everything is synchronicity. I don't.
Speaker 7: I don't when they say there are no coincidences, I
Speaker 7: really I believe that's just my personal belief.
Speaker 3: There can't be in a world that you know, and
Speaker 3: we were talking a little bit about psychedelics and stuff
Speaker 3: like that, and I know that you know, in the
Speaker 3: dream world or in the psychedelic world, in the meditational world,
Speaker 3: everything seems perfect right, Like there's nothing that's like, oh,
Speaker 3: that was weird that I saw that. That was probably
Speaker 3: a one off thing. No, it was like it was
Speaker 3: probably exactly meant to happen in the time that you
Speaker 3: saw it, and that was part of the wheels that
Speaker 3: keep the machine going kind of thing.
Speaker 6: Yep, I fully believe it.
Speaker 7: And with with cards, it's not, it's it's about. This
Speaker 7: is something I've learned from being a psychic medium and
Speaker 7: talking to dead people is that everything is divine timing.
Speaker 7: So like, for example, when you said, can we possibly
Speaker 7: move this, I was like yeah, because I know.
Speaker 6: Like I'm not going to sweat it.
Speaker 7: I know there's a reason if there is some interruption,
Speaker 7: it's because it's not supposed to happen now, It's supposed
Speaker 7: to happen later. And with the cards, it's man, I
Speaker 7: could tell you a thousand stories and but there it's
Speaker 7: it's spirit sort of inspiring you to pull a specific card.
Speaker 7: If I say, show me the card that best represents
Speaker 7: the message, and now I feel spirit as show me
Speaker 7: the card that best represents the card that you'd like
Speaker 7: me to you know that will best represent the message
Speaker 7: that you have for me today. And I just trust it,
Speaker 7: and I'm and even I've been a little like is
Speaker 7: this real?
Speaker 6: Am I just deluding? Is this I don't know? But
Speaker 6: it is a tool.
Speaker 7: And when I was first starting out in mediumship, I
Speaker 7: occasionally used cards as a crutch, like it can be
Speaker 7: a tool, until I was really able to trust myself
Speaker 7: more to be like, you don't need cards any you
Speaker 7: got this.
Speaker 6: It's it feels really.
Speaker 7: Strange, it feels really weird to be like, I'm just
Speaker 7: gonna say this weird thing, you know, I'm just going
Speaker 7: to like blurt something out and hope it's right.
Speaker 6: But after time, you're like.
Speaker 7: When you're reading people and they're like, yeah, that's right,
Speaker 7: and you're like, oh my god, okay, okay, it is right.
Speaker 7: And so over time you learn to trust what you're
Speaker 7: receiving because it can be so random. And I can
Speaker 7: tell you stories, but I'll let you. I won't keep rambling.
Speaker 7: I'll just kind of let you can.
Speaker 8: I ask you had several experiences ourselves with the TiO
Speaker 8: as far as the cards that pop up are just
Speaker 8: so unbelievably spot on, you know, and I wanted to
Speaker 8: ask you a question because you said you talked dead
Speaker 8: people and then you mentioned that you feel spirit all
Speaker 8: of a sudden, what's that feel like?
Speaker 7: I love that question saying that I love this question
Speaker 7: because this only started happening to me once I started
Speaker 7: studying mediumship. I wasn't someone I was always highly sensitive
Speaker 7: person like I was in therapy at h two through five,
Speaker 7: they thought I was autistic because I just was so
Speaker 7: hyper sensitive that I stopped talking because I couldn't. Everything
Speaker 7: was too much. And my therapist said, poor Shannon, she
Speaker 7: has all these big feelings she doesn't know what to
Speaker 7: do with. I didn't know that I if I was
Speaker 7: interacting with the spirit world or anything, and I'm sure
Speaker 7: I was, but I set out to learn this for
Speaker 7: long series of reasons, and so for me, this feeling
Speaker 7: that I get started to only start happening then, which
Speaker 7: is like there's no way, so to me, it's you
Speaker 7: know what I've learned, it's ASMR. It's literally ASMR that
Speaker 7: I feel. So I call it like I call it
Speaker 7: spirit tingles. And anytime I even talk about the spirit world,
Speaker 7: and so I don't know if it's someone for you
Speaker 7: or if it's like.
Speaker 6: A spirit guide.
Speaker 7: I couldn't I don't know, because I'd have to like
Speaker 7: then intend to go in a different direction. But it
Speaker 7: feels like those head massagers that look like spiders. It
Speaker 7: feels like someone is doing that to me. And then
Speaker 7: it travels all the way down. Whooh, I just got it.
Speaker 7: It feels it's not the same as like chills when
Speaker 7: you're cold. It's like it chills, but it feels more
Speaker 7: like electricity.
Speaker 6: But it feels nice, and it usually goes down one
Speaker 6: side of my body.
Speaker 7: I do not know why. I've had other mediums tell
Speaker 7: me the same thing. It's always on my right side.
Speaker 7: For me, it's not, oh, right side is Grandma, left
Speaker 7: side is Grandpa. I don't know if that's a thing
Speaker 7: for me, but I just know that there's spirit in
Speaker 7: the room. So that can be because when we talk
Speaker 7: about them, they're so happy that this is what I found,
Speaker 7: that you're seeing us. You know we're here, we're just reinforcing.
Speaker 7: So if I start talking about them, sometimes it's as
Speaker 7: quick as this, I'm about to give a reading and
Speaker 7: I turn on the subtle thing on YouTube that's open
Speaker 7: your third eye, and it's just a little thing and
Speaker 7: then it just has a little sound, and now my
Speaker 7: spirit team knows that we're about to start. The second
Speaker 7: I even hit play, I start to feel tingles all
Speaker 7: the way down my body. But it's not going to
Speaker 7: be for the entire time. All I know is that
Speaker 7: when I feel it and I'm by myself, I go,
Speaker 7: who's there? And then I just first named that pops in.
Speaker 7: I'm telling this to all of you too, because you
Speaker 7: can do it too. We're all mediums. We just we
Speaker 7: can all do this. It's just that we have to
Speaker 7: believe in it and we have to be aware of it,
Speaker 7: and then we just have to learn how spirit communicates.
Speaker 7: And that's where the work and the daily practice came in.
Speaker 7: But I love the feeling of it. Other people are
Speaker 7: like I turn it off. I'm always like, no, always
Speaker 7: want it on because it's a beautiful, comforting, warm tingly feeling.
Speaker 7: It just feels like a loving feeling, and I get excited.
Speaker 7: I'm like, oh, there's someone here.
Speaker 3: Do you ever feel like it's harder to do it
Speaker 3: for yourself than for others?
Speaker 7: One hundred percent? Because here's the reason. When you are
Speaker 7: like I'm really missing my grandma, and I'm like grandma
Speaker 7: give me a message. I already know what she sounded like.
Speaker 7: I don't know if I'm imagining it because I know
Speaker 7: what she would say. I'm like, oh, yeah, Grandma would
Speaker 7: probably say something like this.
Speaker 3: It's a little biased.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Or if you're in deep grief and you're just
Speaker 7: so badly wanting to connect, your grief is going to
Speaker 7: kind of put you in a state of low vibration
Speaker 7: or wanting it so bad that you might get in.
Speaker 6: Your head about it.
Speaker 7: It's easier for me to read someone else because then
Speaker 7: I can say, you know that, I can say I'm
Speaker 7: just feeling like there is a Grandma here and their
Speaker 7: name is like a you know, and then it's like
Speaker 7: I think they had this gift because I'm seeing a
Speaker 7: crystal ball, like there's that kind of thing. And then
Speaker 7: the person goes yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's how I.
Speaker 6: Know who it is. But for me, I'm like, well,
Speaker 6: I think I heard him say something, but I don't
Speaker 6: know if what if I I could have totally just
Speaker 6: made that up in my head.
Speaker 3: But how does it doubt? But how does it check out?
Speaker 3: You know? And it checks out almost all the time
Speaker 3: with you whenever you're reading somebody else. Yes, And I'll
Speaker 3: say this too. I had a past life reggression once.
Speaker 3: I've only ever had two done to me, and the
Speaker 3: most recent, which was like four years ago, that I
Speaker 3: had one. And I remember I was like this watcher.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say God, that might piss some
Speaker 3: people off. Whatever. I was like this watcher over a planet,
Speaker 3: and I knew that it was my duty to listen
Speaker 3: to their prayers and watch out for them and stuff
Speaker 3: like that, and if they ever asked for anything, then
Speaker 3: I would be there, Like whatever they asked for, I
Speaker 3: would least at the very bare minimum help set them
Speaker 3: on the right path.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 3: But after a little while I got up there, or
Speaker 3: whenever I was up there, I was just really lonely,
Speaker 3: and I was like, did they forgot about me? Like
Speaker 3: they don't even know that I exist. They think that
Speaker 3: I'm just a myth. They don't even know. And so
Speaker 3: I got so lonely, and I would and you said
Speaker 3: that that whenever whenever you call upon them, they get
Speaker 3: really excited. I just remembering back to that, I know
Speaker 3: I would have gotten super excited if somebody would have
Speaker 3: called on me, or remembered that they could have called
Speaker 3: on me right, and so that I think that kind
Speaker 3: of checks out least from my own personal standpoint.
Speaker 8: It does.
Speaker 7: And also spirit guides from my understanding, and this comes
Speaker 7: from interviewing hundreds of near death experiencers who've been to
Speaker 7: the other.
Speaker 6: Side, that spirit guides are there to guide us.
Speaker 7: It doesn't mean that we are going to never have
Speaker 7: anything that happened to us.
Speaker 6: That's why we're here. We're here. It's Earth school.
Speaker 7: We need to have contrast, so and we're given free will,
Speaker 7: so we can still make mistakes and make poor choices
Speaker 7: and bad things do happen to us. It's not that
Speaker 7: spirit guides and angels are like I'm going to make
Speaker 7: sure that nothing bad happens to you, because then you
Speaker 7: wouldn't fulfill your soul's path. Our souls choose to come
Speaker 7: here because it's the hardest place to reincarnate into. Or
Speaker 7: like give us the contrast. I want to know the
Speaker 7: human experience. If I didn't have pain, I wouldn't know
Speaker 7: love and so oh I got chills. Okay, thank you
Speaker 7: for validating that. I guess that's the other thing is
Speaker 7: if if I'm right or they say yes, like that's
Speaker 7: their way of saying, yes, you're on the right track.
Speaker 6: You're right. I never claim to know.
Speaker 7: But this is what I believe is that you know,
Speaker 7: we choose these things, but what they they won't So
Speaker 7: they are not going to interfere unless you ask them to. Now,
Speaker 7: if it's like your life's purpose, like you're supposed to
Speaker 7: have that car accident because you are going to go
Speaker 7: on to Like I interviewed a guy on one of
Speaker 7: my podcasts which is called still Standing, and that's about
Speaker 7: people of coming challenges. Well, he was in an accident
Speaker 7: that left him paraplegic at age twenty four. He didn't
Speaker 7: want to live anymore. Now cut to twenty years later,
Speaker 7: he is a men's empowerment coach. He's a Ted Talk
Speaker 7: He's a Ted Talk speaker. He has a gorgeous like
Speaker 7: partner and woman that he's with. He lives, he has
Speaker 7: like a beautiful life and he's now helping other people say,
Speaker 7: like I wanted to give up on life, but now
Speaker 7: so often there's like your soul kind of chows that
Speaker 7: to happen to you, even though it feels like it sucks.
Speaker 7: So that because your purpose was greater, it was like
Speaker 7: I am going to become an inspiration to other people,
Speaker 7: or even yeah, I had to experience this losshere, I
Speaker 7: would have never learned this. So it we do choose
Speaker 7: those things to a degree. But if you ask, always
Speaker 7: just even if you're skeptical, I've done it too. I'm
Speaker 7: always like, really, is there just ask? Just say, spirit
Speaker 7: guides I'm really scared right now, or I really don't.
Speaker 7: I don't know which way to turn. I'm asking for
Speaker 7: your guidance, show me the way.
Speaker 6: I'll do the work. But please, I need some support
Speaker 6: right now. I can't pay my rent. What am I
Speaker 6: going to do?
Speaker 7: Please let the money come to me, you know, and
Speaker 7: that kind of thing. So when you ask, it seems
Speaker 7: like you're talking to the air. But I have found
Speaker 7: that when I do that, it's like it shows up.
Speaker 3: Oh dude. And I've been really trying to play around
Speaker 3: with that a lot here lately, just with some of
Speaker 3: the meditations that we do, as far as like you know,
Speaker 3: letting the light pour into your head and then down
Speaker 3: through your body and each go through each one of
Speaker 3: your chakras and stuff like that, and you know you
Speaker 3: wanted to go through your entire body and then back
Speaker 3: up through your feet, back up into your head like
Speaker 3: a taurus, right, And I to be honest, every time
Speaker 3: we do that, it always feels like it's really happening, right,
Speaker 3: Like it feels like it's legit. And so I decided
Speaker 3: to put it to the test one day. So I
Speaker 3: have this dog and he's he's my baby, he's my Fatty.
Speaker 3: But he's a little aggressive towards people he doesn't know,
Speaker 3: and he's just like very sensitive, and I don't know
Speaker 3: what his deal is, to be honest with you, but
Speaker 3: he's just he likes who he likes kind of thing.
Speaker 3: And so I was actually I was driving back home
Speaker 3: from Louisiana and I was heading home and we were
Speaker 3: going to be getting a dog sitter to come watch
Speaker 3: our dog so that we can go on vacation. And
Speaker 3: the dog sitter came to the house and I guess
Speaker 3: my dog, Fatty was just not having it. He was
Speaker 3: just flipping the hell out like it was like crazy.
Speaker 3: And I was like, dude, that is just so crazy
Speaker 3: that I feel like that's not him, but it's a
Speaker 3: new person. He was also in a cage, and I
Speaker 3: was like, all right, let me let me try and see.
Speaker 3: So as I'm driving, I picture the like the wave
Speaker 3: of the laser of light or whatever pouring into my body.
Speaker 3: I let it surround my whole body, go back up
Speaker 3: from the feet to the head. And then I imagined
Speaker 3: that there was this power coming out of me, like
Speaker 3: I was a fucking care bear, and it was like
Speaker 3: and it was like this loving, like heart chakra energy
Speaker 3: that I was imagining that he was receiving. And I
Speaker 3: was like, all right, if it's stupid, nobody knows that
Speaker 3: I did it, you know what I mean, Like whatever,
Speaker 3: it's just on my own and I should you not.
Speaker 3: Five minutes later, my wife calls me and she's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: he calmed down. I was like, what thing again?
Speaker 8: You know you weren't about to miss that vacation, bro.
Speaker 3: I didn't even tell her. I didn't even tell her.
Speaker 3: This is my first time even saying that I did that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: is super strange. So there's absolutely something to it. And
Speaker 3: anybody that wants to say that it's like some kind
Speaker 3: of placebo or you're just I don't know. I don't don't.
Speaker 3: I don't believe in diminishing the human potential to a
Speaker 3: mere word called a placebo, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 3: I think that it's so much more than just that.
Speaker 3: The mere fact that you can take a sugar pill
Speaker 3: and think that it's going to cure your headache and
Speaker 3: it does, and then you find out it's a sugar bilt,
Speaker 3: Like that's magic, Like we are magical beings one hundred percent, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's so, that's so true.
Speaker 7: In fact, now I'm like, I actually want you guys
Speaker 7: to be on my show, so we'll talk about that later,
Speaker 7: to talk about all this because I also now I.
Speaker 6: Am like, wait, I want to hear all your stories too.
Speaker 7: But yeah, it's exactly that, and that's why my podcast
Speaker 7: is called Magic Is Real. I used to be kind
Speaker 7: of atheistic myself, Like I was not. I was in
Speaker 7: college in the nineties, smoking cigarettes, wearing Doc Martins, angsty sex.
Speaker 6: And love addict, like just so depressed.
Speaker 7: I was a cool kid and just but and very
Speaker 7: like and you know, taking drugs and stuff, taking the drugs,
Speaker 7: taking the drugs. But you know, I still Alison Chains
Speaker 7: is still one of my favorite bands, Nirvana, all the
Speaker 7: grunge stuff, Like I still love it. I still love it,
Speaker 7: and I'm a very happy person now. But I was
Speaker 7: like I remember saying, you just die and you turned
Speaker 7: to dust. And I just didn't believe in any of it.
Speaker 7: I think I believed in like hauntings or so.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I had an open I would say I was agnostic,
Speaker 7: but I did think that nothing happens when you die,
Speaker 7: and so that's coming from I always mention that because
Speaker 7: I know a lot of people are like, oh, your
Speaker 7: psychic medium or you're con artist or that kind of thing,
Speaker 7: and I'm like, no, you don't know me. I am
Speaker 7: a very logical person, like I actually need to see
Speaker 7: it for myself. That's why I studied mediumship for myself
Speaker 7: because I need proof. I need to and I'm convinent.
Speaker 7: Now I'm like, there's no way that this can I'm
Speaker 7: just grabbing my my charger because I realized I'm not
Speaker 7: plugged in.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know what's funny too, is is that most of
Speaker 3: the time, like the non believers claim, almost every psychic
Speaker 3: is a Charlatan. Yeah, And I'm like, I'm sure that
Speaker 3: there are some Charlatans out there. There are absolutely some
Speaker 3: people business in every single business, and the jewelry business
Speaker 3: and the food. I'm look at the food we're eating.
Speaker 3: It's not even food that could be shited considered Charlatan
Speaker 3: as right, like absolutely, there's no nutritional value to most
Speaker 3: of our food anymore. So yeah, I mean it's it's
Speaker 3: so strange whenever people just neglect the possibility that we
Speaker 3: could have abilities and that we could sharpen them. You know,
Speaker 3: like if you just continue to do it as often
Speaker 3: as you possibly can, whether it is tarot or meditation,
Speaker 3: whatever your thing is, like, it does get better. Like
Speaker 3: and how could it get better if it's not real?
Speaker 3: I mean it has there has to be something real
Speaker 3: in order for it to get better.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 6: Also, I give. I mean, if I was here to
Speaker 6: con people, I give people.
Speaker 7: I mean I've never had to any time in the
Speaker 7: recent past, but like when I was starting out, I'm like,
Speaker 7: if this doesn't resonate and you didn't like it, I'm
Speaker 7: giving you your money back.
Speaker 6: There's no harm. Like it's basically a money back guarantee.
Speaker 7: And I've never had anyone ask for one, you know,
Speaker 7: because we're both sitt. I mean, when I get a hit,
Speaker 7: I am more shocked than they are. I have my
Speaker 7: clients go, wait, why are you s I'm like, because
Speaker 7: it's why I named my podcast Magic is Real, because
Speaker 7: I'm like, how is this real?
Speaker 6: Magic is real?
Speaker 7: I have chills just thinking about how many validations I've
Speaker 7: gotten from the spirit world, where I'm like, that is unbelievable,
Speaker 7: Like how would I even know that? So did a
Speaker 7: reading the other day and I got the names. I said, Okay,
Speaker 7: this is what I'm hearing.
Speaker 6: I have the names. I think it's.
Speaker 7: Genevieve, Dudley, and Barney. And this woman was like, this
Speaker 7: is my cousin's family. So Genevieve was this woman Geneva
Speaker 7: her name was so I got it wrong, but it
Speaker 7: was like close.
Speaker 6: And then I'm like, who's Dudley.
Speaker 7: She's like, that's my uncle's best friend and she and
Speaker 7: he were married, Dudley Dudley.
Speaker 6: I haven't thought of that name. And then I said Barney.
Speaker 7: She's like that's her dog who just drowned in her
Speaker 7: pool and she's having a really hard time forgiving herself
Speaker 7: for him falling in the pool. I was like, that's
Speaker 7: the reason Barney would be showing up. And I even
Speaker 7: described like the color of his fur. And I'm like,
Speaker 7: you cannot tell me that I guessed those because none
Speaker 7: of them are typical that you might say, oh, you
Speaker 7: probably googled it. I mean, how would I. I don't
Speaker 7: even know her cousin, Like how I didn't know? And
Speaker 7: I don't want to know anything about you before I
Speaker 7: tell my clients, do not tell me a thing about
Speaker 7: you or your loved ones.
Speaker 6: In spirit, It's not even fun for me to do
Speaker 6: it that way.
Speaker 7: It wouldn't be fun if I had to cheat, like
Speaker 7: I'm not here to I have. I can make money
Speaker 7: other ways, like and I could charge more than I do,
Speaker 7: but I don't because I want it to be more
Speaker 7: available to everybody. So again, I don't have to explain.
Speaker 7: But it's like I do this because I love to
Speaker 7: hold space for people in grief, but also because what
Speaker 7: a fun trip for me to be, Like it's affirming
Speaker 7: for me when I get information Like I did a
Speaker 7: reading the other night and the woman's husband said, uh,
Speaker 7: he said Kentucky Derby And I'm like, is that relevant?
Speaker 6: No, did you go to the Kentucky Derby?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 7: Are you going to be invited to the Kentucky Derby?
Speaker 7: She's like, I don't know. I said, let me just
Speaker 7: see when the Kentucky Derby is and I said, oh,
Speaker 7: it's May third. She goes, that's our anniversary and I
Speaker 7: was like, that's the It's gave me chills too. And
Speaker 7: then he said to me, I have been setting off
Speaker 7: her fire alarm and she goes, Shannon, that literally happened
Speaker 7: two days ago.
Speaker 6: That like the smoke alarm that you know.
Speaker 7: And she said, I said he's talking about he's showing
Speaker 7: me like a fire alarm, but also an alarm clock
Speaker 7: or something, and she goes, yeah, two days ago. My
Speaker 7: kids and I were like, why is this fire alarm
Speaker 7: going off? Like the battery's fresh, there's no reason it
Speaker 7: should be going off. And then it would stop, and
Speaker 7: then she said something I don't remember what it was,
Speaker 7: but she's like, yeah, the alarm clock was blinking and
Speaker 7: it was I don't want to say, I don't want
Speaker 7: to misquote her. It was something like it's a repeating
Speaker 7: number or whatever it was. And so he showed me
Speaker 7: both and I can explain how that what that means,
Speaker 7: but I don't want to ramble, but.
Speaker 6: That those things were like how would I know that?
Speaker 6: Two days ago?
Speaker 7: Her fire alarm went off and right as we were talking,
Speaker 7: her fireplace turned on by itself, like the automatic. And
Speaker 7: every single time I read her because she's a repeat
Speaker 7: client and has become a friend her. She goes, Shannon,
Speaker 7: this doesn't happen except when we're doing readings. Like the
Speaker 7: fire place turns on by itself, and so it's like
Speaker 7: I I just and I just went, what are you
Speaker 7: kidding me?
Speaker 3: Can I ask you, like, what what do you think
Speaker 3: about that? Though? Whenever you get like, all right, you
Speaker 3: saw an alarm or a fire or somebody's dog, Like
Speaker 3: what what do you what do you think you were?
Speaker 3: Is there something that you're supposed to do with that information?
Speaker 3: Or is it just a reminder that like, yes, you're
Speaker 3: connected and it's uh a telepathic kind of conversation flow
Speaker 3: of information that's coming to you.
Speaker 7: Yes, it's I The type of mediumship I do is
Speaker 7: called evidential mediumship. So you might ask, why are they
Speaker 7: telling me about the dishwasher? Why are they telling me
Speaker 7: about like the plumber was just there? With this woman
Speaker 7: in particular, she's lost the love of her life, her
Speaker 7: absolute soulmate in the world. They've been together since they
Speaker 7: were fourteen, she's now middle aged, she's got grandkids.
Speaker 6: This sure thing is.
Speaker 7: I just want to know he's here, And sometimes I
Speaker 7: doubt it. Sometimes I feel like he's not really is
Speaker 7: he really here? I just don't feel like he is.
Speaker 7: So every time we meet, he shows me like things
Speaker 7: that are happening in her life right now, so and
Speaker 7: to validate because she didn't know she was just like
Speaker 7: that stupid fire alarm. But for him to tell me
Speaker 7: I'm the one setting off the alarm is like, what
Speaker 7: I'm supposed to do with it is just he's there,
Speaker 7: like the fact that you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 7: And so sometimes they'll tell me, oh, you just had
Speaker 7: a leak, like in your ceiling, and they'll be like, yeah,
Speaker 7: the reason that Spirit's coming through with that is that's
Speaker 7: not important. What's important is how would I know that
Speaker 7: if I wasn't here. It's just to reinforce I'm here.
Speaker 7: Sometimes Spirit, well, most of the time Spirit has a
Speaker 7: particular message, but usually the message I'll even revise how
Speaker 7: I say that. Most of the time for me, anyway,
Speaker 7: Spirit isn't trying to be like, go look in the cabinet,
Speaker 7: there's money hidden under there. If there was, I might
Speaker 7: see it, But it's always just I'm here with you.
Speaker 7: I see everything that's happening. I had said to her,
Speaker 7: why am I seeing a waffle iron. She goes, because
Speaker 7: yesterday I just bought my grandson a truck, a waffle
Speaker 7: iron shaped like a truck. And my daughter goes, Dad
Speaker 7: would kill you for spending money on something so silly.
Speaker 7: She's like, nope, my grandson gets whatever he wants. So
Speaker 7: like it's a waffle iron. Okay, that's not it doesn't
Speaker 7: sound spiritual, but the reason they're showing it to me
Speaker 7: is to be like, I was there, I saw you
Speaker 7: do that. I was there in spirit, and that's kind
Speaker 7: of what it is. It's mainly the messages I love you,
Speaker 7: I'm safe, I'm at peace, I'm here, I am not dead.
Speaker 7: I joke when I say I talk to dead people,
Speaker 7: they're not dead. They're more alive than they were here,
Speaker 7: but they're just in another form because energy never dies.
Speaker 3: Oky. That does make sense then, and especially if you're
Speaker 3: working with somebody that you haven't worked with before that
Speaker 3: that type of evidential type of work. Would you know
Speaker 3: whenever they're listening to you speak now, they know that
Speaker 3: you're connected to whatever it is is going on, because
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, there's always going to be that
Speaker 3: thing in the back of our mind. Well, is that
Speaker 3: person you know is the psychic. Is it a super
Speaker 3: clear reading? Do they understand who they're talking to? Are
Speaker 3: they full of shit? You know, first of all, it
Speaker 3: is usually the biggest one. But whenever you can call
Speaker 3: out little, tiny, circumstantial kind of stuff like that, probably
Speaker 3: to them it's like a yeah, all right, well, yeah,
Speaker 3: she's obviously connected there. She's talking to somebody who I
Speaker 3: believe is one of my spirit guides or somebody that's
Speaker 3: watching out for me or something like that. So okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: I didn't get it before I get it now. I
Speaker 3: never heard of that card cud.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I once had a grandma come through and say I
Speaker 7: love you, And I said, you're going to have to
Speaker 7: do better than that, because I could make that up.
Speaker 7: So I could just tell any of you your great
Speaker 7: grandmother's here, because everyone's great grandmother's probably on the other side,
Speaker 7: you know, I could be like it's and he's saying
Speaker 7: I love you, I just love you. Well, that's not
Speaker 7: gonna work. So I said, I'll tell her that, but
Speaker 7: you have to tell me. Give me something. So I said,
Speaker 7: she says she loves you and lace tablecloth, and she goes, Yep,
Speaker 7: that's the one thing I got of hers when she
Speaker 7: passed was her lace tablecloth. So it's like she has
Speaker 7: to show me something, so I know the message is
Speaker 7: coming from her, which is why. And I ask for
Speaker 7: names because I geek out about that. I'm like, how
Speaker 7: would I know those names? How could I possibly? Like
Speaker 7: those kinds of things are like to me, especially, I mean,
Speaker 7: if it's Jim, not that exciting. But I've had things
Speaker 7: come through where I'm like, that name is like so
Speaker 7: obscure that like, how would I ever even how would
Speaker 7: I guess that? So yes, when I've yeah, I mean
Speaker 7: unless I looked up their family tree. I mean I
Speaker 7: don't even have time for that. Like that's what the
Speaker 7: Long Island media like, who has time for that? I'm
Speaker 7: not interested in that. I'm interested in them of this
Speaker 7: and if I can't get it myself, that's not fun.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so real quick, let's get you off, dude. So
Speaker 8: when you hear a name or you get a hit,
Speaker 8: you're you're not hearing the name, it's just the thought
Speaker 8: of the oh shit. Yeah.
Speaker 7: So here's the thing that I learned when I studied mediumship.
Speaker 7: I was like I was, I really was always fascinated,
Speaker 7: and I thought you just had to be born special,
Speaker 7: like you just have to be one of those people.
Speaker 6: We can all do this if we want to. It's
Speaker 6: you know, So.
Speaker 7: It's actually more sort of mundane than you would think.
Speaker 7: Like the way I don't see ghosts. I don't see
Speaker 7: it's not like the sixth sense some people do. I
Speaker 7: don't have that ability, probably because spirit knows I'm sensitive
Speaker 7: and I'd probably freak out, freak out like I would
Speaker 7: like it in the daytime, but do not hover over
Speaker 7: my bed or bump into me as I'm going to.
Speaker 6: Pee in the middle of it.
Speaker 8: They don't come out during the day.
Speaker 6: I don't want to see even my grandpa.
Speaker 7: I just I don't want a man standing in my
Speaker 7: house when I'm alone. So I think they know that
Speaker 7: it would be too much for me. So the way
Speaker 7: and all of you receive information from the spirit side,
Speaker 7: it comes in as my own thought it the.
Speaker 6: Way I described it the other day. It's like a
Speaker 6: memory of something.
Speaker 7: So I said the other day to a client, Okay,
Speaker 7: this person's showing me dentures in a cup, and she said, oh,
Speaker 7: my grandma always used to do that to make me laugh,
Speaker 7: like show me her dentures and the cup.
Speaker 6: And it was.
Speaker 7: Almost like I remembered it happening to me. It's like
Speaker 7: if you try to remember something that happened to you
Speaker 7: when you were eight. You know it happened, but you're
Speaker 7: at this point you're like, did that really happen? Or
Speaker 7: it's like a it's so far away, but you know
Speaker 7: that it happened. So there's Claire cognizance, which is when
Speaker 7: you just know something and you don't know how you
Speaker 7: know it. So I might look at you and be like, oh,
Speaker 7: you have a liver disease, and they're like, how did
Speaker 7: you know?
Speaker 6: I don't know. I just knew.
Speaker 7: Or Claire Claire sentience is when I feel so I
Speaker 7: might say, how did this spirit pass? Sometimes they don't
Speaker 7: want to show me it's too traumatic. But I'll start
Speaker 7: to feel sort of a sensation. It's not pain, but
Speaker 7: I'll be like, oh, I feel like heaviness in my chest,
Speaker 7: or I feel like it's almost like having a memory,
Speaker 7: like if you had a heart attack and then you
Speaker 7: were remembering it, Like I don't feel the pain, but.
Speaker 6: It's like, oh, it feels like I had a heart attack.
Speaker 7: Or and then the names that come in, it's like
Speaker 7: I just thought of a name like Jerry, you know,
Speaker 7: like that like if you do it right now in
Speaker 7: your own head and you're like, give me a name, Bob,
Speaker 7: Like whatever name comes to you, it just goes yeah,
Speaker 7: oh yeah, you know it's like you can and also, okay,
Speaker 7: so the way I see myself if if I ask
Speaker 7: you to think about your sweet dog Fatty, your dog,
Speaker 7: you okay, you can see him right like in your mind,
Speaker 7: but where are you seeing him? Like if you think
Speaker 7: about it, where are you really seeing it? Like it's
Speaker 7: not with your eyes, but you know it'sactly you could tell.
Speaker 7: You could tell me every detail on his little face
Speaker 7: and nose, because it's in your bank, in your bank.
Speaker 7: So for me, I'm very I see things clearly. I
Speaker 7: dream very clearly. But here's a tip too, because this
Speaker 7: is fun. I do this all the time sometimes if
Speaker 7: I have to wait in line at a bank or
Speaker 7: something and I don't want to be on my phone,
Speaker 7: I'm like, okay, just see if you can read anyone.
Speaker 7: Don't have to approach them, but just see what's coming
Speaker 7: through look at someone, and then what's the first thing
Speaker 7: you see in your mind's eye? Like just pay attention
Speaker 7: because we all have these thoughts going through our heads
Speaker 7: all day. We have like thousands and thousands of thoughts
Speaker 7: all day, but if we pay attention, there's something in there,
Speaker 7: like oh, I just pick so I'm trying it right now.
Speaker 6: I picture. I just pictured Papa Smurf. I don't know why.
Speaker 7: I mean, it might be for one of you, but
Speaker 7: it also could just be like the like I just
Speaker 7: tune into what's happening in my subconscious and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 7: what else am I seeing?
Speaker 6: Like oh, a lottery ticket. I don't know why, you know,
Speaker 6: it's It's.
Speaker 8: Like I gave me chills right now because as you
Speaker 8: were talking, I was thinking about because you were like, oh,
Speaker 8: I'll just read somebody, and then I was thinking, oh,
Speaker 8: she'll never know if she was right or not. And
Speaker 8: then all of a sudden, randomly I started having thoughts
Speaker 8: of like, oh, maybe you can just automatic write a
Speaker 8: lot like your lotto numbers and ticket.
Speaker 3: They gave me chills. That gives me up so cool.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And that's the That's how I believe in this
Speaker 7: because even just like one day, I heard the name
Speaker 7: Chanta Claire in my head and I'm like, this has
Speaker 7: to be something. I don't know why I would think
Speaker 7: that word.
Speaker 6: So I don't know why. I just felt compelled to
Speaker 6: ask my mom about it. I don't know. I was like,
Speaker 6: does Chanta Clair mean anything to you?
Speaker 7: Because I thought maybe one of our spirit people, and
Speaker 7: she goes, I literally had this album called Chanta Clair
Speaker 7: that it was my I loved it and I'm on
Speaker 7: Amazon looking for it right now and it's out of print,
Speaker 7: so I've been trying to figure out how to get it.
Speaker 7: So it's like, I was like, how would I ever like?
Speaker 7: And she's got this too, but she doesn't do it professionally.
Speaker 7: It's just we have a she's just always been able
Speaker 7: to do it too. And so it's things like that
Speaker 7: where I'm like, you can't make this shit up, like
Speaker 7: there's no way.
Speaker 8: Well, I'm already convinced just from what I've seen right
Speaker 8: now that was a trip. My stepdad's name is Bob,
Speaker 8: and he used to always buy lottery tickets, and I
Speaker 8: feel like there is a connection with Yes, I do too.
Speaker 8: I'm just saying.
Speaker 6: There might there might be.
Speaker 3: He was a little guy.
Speaker 7: He was a little Yeah, dude, I don't And what
Speaker 7: I would say is if I'm reading you and I
Speaker 7: actually I mean maybe I don't know, we could do
Speaker 7: like a follow up because if I'm reading you, like
Speaker 7: I do feel like it's Papa Smurf because I'm seeing
Speaker 7: like the red and the beard, and it wouldn't be
Speaker 7: something like where he short, It would be something from
Speaker 7: your child. It would be something specific. But you said
Speaker 7: your dad that was my stepdad or your stepdad? Well yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: basically yeah, because there's something about Papa Smurf and so
Speaker 7: let me know later, like that I'm seeing like the
Speaker 7: red red. I think he had a red hat or
Speaker 7: something as opposed to the other ones. So yeah, there
Speaker 7: are things like that. And also I don't know, I
Speaker 7: can't tell if it's because I saw your background, but
Speaker 7: I just start to think about what am I tuning into,
Speaker 7: and so, uh, you know Bob. It's like, does Bob
Speaker 7: work with his hands? Is he like a mechanic?
Speaker 6: Oh my god, yeah, because I just saw I just
Speaker 6: asked him to tell me.
Speaker 7: So like I'm tripping myself out because I feel, yeah,
Speaker 7: I feel like Bob is here because and I kind
Speaker 7: of thought this might happen, but I was also like,
Speaker 7: I don't like to do it under pressure because then
Speaker 7: people are like go and it's not a party trick,
Speaker 7: but it happens. It's something where I if I intend
Speaker 7: to do it. So do you know what I'm doing
Speaker 7: right now? It's not that magical. I mean it's it's magical.
Speaker 8: But literally guessing what you're getting.
Speaker 7: Yes, and okay, so what I did is like if
Speaker 7: you stop to think, you're gonna fuck yourself up fishing.
Speaker 6: Did he fish?
Speaker 7: Somebody's fishing. I don't know if that's somebody in your family,
Speaker 7: but I just saw somebody that's like fishing.
Speaker 8: My grandfather and I think he did fishing as well.
Speaker 7: Did because I kind of feel like I'm on the
Speaker 7: bob page. Oops, I just messed my my foot rest up. Yeah,
Speaker 7: it's it's what I do. It's I literally if I
Speaker 7: stop to think, and sometimes I mess this up in
Speaker 7: readings where I start to get in my head and
Speaker 7: then I'm trying to find the information and I've learned,
Speaker 7: Like so I had a couple like weird readings last week,
Speaker 7: and I'll see if also I got to keep talking
Speaker 7: so like, because I can't get in my head, I
Speaker 7: have to.
Speaker 8: Like scribing the page. Yes, you don't want to say
Speaker 8: white noise.
Speaker 7: Don't think, just go like and I made the mistake.
Speaker 7: I had struggled with some last week, and then one
Speaker 7: day I had a reading. I'm like, just go, just
Speaker 7: spit out everything fast because they're at a very fast vibration.
Speaker 7: And if I sit here going, well, what if I'm
Speaker 7: not right, that's when you mess yourself up. It's literally
Speaker 7: just tune in because Bob is here, right, All of
Speaker 7: your loved ones are here because they're with us, you know,
Speaker 7: pretty or if you're thinking about them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so hey Bob. So he's already in the room, and.
Speaker 7: Did he go Okay, it's weird because you said hey Bob,
Speaker 7: But I thought I heard like Bubba too, Like I
Speaker 7: don't know if you was called that or something, but.
Speaker 3: Actually I was gonna say I used to, well, I
Speaker 3: used to I don't know if everybody else used to
Speaker 3: say this, but I used to always call him Bob
Speaker 3: the Builder.
Speaker 7: Oh that's so funny because I heard Bubba like Bubba
Speaker 7: and it might be I don't Sometimes I'll say, I'm
Speaker 7: not gonna make it thick fit, like, but I'm hearing
Speaker 7: like a nickname is like what I'm hearing in my head.
Speaker 8: It's almost like.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm hearing like.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm convinced. And that's the thing.
Speaker 7: It's like he was already No I wasn't either, but
Speaker 7: I hoped it would happen just so you could see
Speaker 7: how it works. And I'm teaching all of you now.
Speaker 7: It's like literally, it's as easy as he's already in
Speaker 7: the room. I just have to tune into him. Like
Speaker 7: like I just said, I'll just practice and see what
Speaker 7: comes into my head. Okay, I'm seeing Papa Smurv lottery ticket. Okay,
Speaker 7: I'm you know, whatever else I was saying, like, and
Speaker 7: then I'm starting to feel a little Okay, wait this,
Speaker 7: I'm starting to feel dizzy. So when I feel dizzy,
Speaker 7: that means that somebody liked to drink, or they might
Speaker 7: have had mental illness or dementia. So I don't know
Speaker 7: if any of those things.
Speaker 8: He had a head injury, and after his accident he
Speaker 8: was like very different, like he used to be one
Speaker 8: kind of way, and and then after his bad quad accident,
Speaker 8: he was almost like a different person, like his whole
Speaker 8: personality changed.
Speaker 7: That makes sense because I'm feeling dizzy, and for me,
Speaker 7: that usually means bipolar or like it can and I
Speaker 7: just have to validate it, like sometimes I have to
Speaker 7: feel and then you feel into it. Right, So all
Speaker 7: I know is I pay attention to my body sensation.
Speaker 7: So I'm starting to get a little dizzy. When I
Speaker 7: get dizzy, it has to do with the brain. Sometimes
Speaker 7: I can really tell, oh, this was mental illness. It's
Speaker 7: usually bipolar or there was dementia, But this to me
Speaker 7: feels more like like mental stuff, not mental illness. But
Speaker 7: he could have had a brain injury that would have
Speaker 7: changed his personality. It also could mean that he liked
Speaker 7: to drink beer, but usually that's only without the.
Speaker 8: Fact enjoy his alcoholic beverage from time to time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he may not have been an alcoholic.
Speaker 7: When someone's a drinker just for they usually just show
Speaker 7: me a beer on a beer mat, like a little
Speaker 7: beer mat. It's not But when they're an alcoholic, I'm like, whoa,
Speaker 7: I'm really dizzy. Like they're not stable, or they died
Speaker 7: of a drug overdose. So but over time, you start
Speaker 7: to learn your symbols, and so every time someone validates that,
Speaker 7: you're like, Okay, now I know that this feeling means
Speaker 7: that because the last time it was this. So it's
Speaker 7: putting your symbols together and Also there's I'm getting an
Speaker 7: eye twitch too.
Speaker 6: It's interesting.
Speaker 7: I wonder why it just started to get an eye twitch,
Speaker 7: and I don't know what that means. It could be
Speaker 7: also I just have an eye twitch.
Speaker 3: But sometimes I did.
Speaker 7: A reading where I started to shake and she's like, oh,
Speaker 7: we had Parkinson's, you know.
Speaker 6: And I was like, why am I shaking? She's like,
Speaker 6: because he had Parkinson's. So it's like.
Speaker 7: That can happen, but it usually is just more of
Speaker 7: a subtle thing. So that that kind of thing.
Speaker 8: That's it. I mean, I think I have a very
Speaker 8: clear at least a clearer understanding of what it is
Speaker 8: that you're doing, and you just did it in real
Speaker 8: time for us, and so.
Speaker 6: Yeah, all it is is just pay attention.
Speaker 7: Like they're talking to us all the time, just listen,
Speaker 7: And when I say listen, I don't know how to
Speaker 7: explain this. I put my energy, my attention sort of
Speaker 7: to the back of my head. Like it's more of
Speaker 7: just you know, if you're doing yoga and they're like
Speaker 7: focus on something, it's like I just almost it's like
Speaker 7: I'm gathering information from the back of my head and
Speaker 7: I'm kind of noticing what's there, Like a. It's like
Speaker 7: a little ticker tape that is always going. But as
Speaker 7: humans were so distracted all the time that we're not
Speaker 7: we just don't hear it. But it's like this slow
Speaker 7: hum all the time, and all I'm doing is shifting
Speaker 7: my awareness to it, like wait, what's happening back here?
Speaker 7: It's like take my attention away from you, you or whatever,
Speaker 7: and just go, hey, Bob, what's what's going on over there?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 7: And but yeah, I saw him with like tools and
Speaker 7: mechanics and something like working with his hands. And but
Speaker 7: the funny thing is too, I also saw like I
Speaker 7: think it's him like a scar on his chest of
Speaker 7: like a heart. Okay, my god, is that he has that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had.
Speaker 8: Like a really bad hernia and he had a scar
Speaker 8: from here all the way down to his belly button. See,
Speaker 8: oh my god, we see.
Speaker 7: I'm even like blown away. I'm shocked, like it's it's
Speaker 7: I still can't believe it.
Speaker 8: How did you even have any out? So, I mean,
Speaker 8: I don't have any doubts anymore.
Speaker 9: Home.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 8: I don't like I could have went either way, you
Speaker 8: know what I mean, Like I'm open minded to all
Speaker 8: of these for sure, but I am like totally blown
Speaker 8: away and shook away. He's not here, I know. And
Speaker 8: it's and also the fish. I think he bought one
Speaker 8: of those stupid fish that like you hang on your
Speaker 8: wall and it sings, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I think the best.
Speaker 7: There's also something about a tattoo that I think, do
Speaker 7: you have a tattoo for him? Or is it like
Speaker 7: he had tattoos?
Speaker 8: He had tattoos, but I think he only had one
Speaker 8: shoulder here. Yeah, and I did, and I started doing tattoos,
Speaker 8: and I think that's really proud of what I was
Speaker 8: doing and everything else. It's home that makes.
Speaker 6: So much sense.
Speaker 7: Wow, I know, And I just way there was something else.
Speaker 7: What was it, Bob that he said something else to
Speaker 7: me that I was Yeah, he feels like is he
Speaker 7: kind of burly like in.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's a little stocky, he's strong.
Speaker 6: I just feel like he's not like obese. He's just
Speaker 6: like a.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, he's just very capable. Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 6: It's just weird.
Speaker 7: There's also might be something with his left eye or
Speaker 7: something like or one of his eyes, like was he
Speaker 7: like not blind in one eye or did he have.
Speaker 8: Like I'm not sure. I don't I don't think so, Okay,
Speaker 8: he had one of his arms. I think it was
Speaker 8: his left arm that didn't work like the other one.
Speaker 8: So he did most of his stuff with the.
Speaker 7: One with the Yeah, has anything to do with it,
Speaker 7: but yeah, And I might have misinterpreted, but yeah. I
Speaker 7: mean he just keeps showing me images and it's more
Speaker 7: just to let you know he's okay. Like it's it's
Speaker 7: like he you don't it feels like you're not unresolved
Speaker 7: about stuff with him, Like I don't know.
Speaker 8: If no, he was a great, great man, and you know,
Speaker 8: it makes sense that he would come through, you know,
Speaker 8: because he's just he would show up at my house,
Speaker 8: Like if I had some yard work to do, he
Speaker 8: would just show up with some tools and like, hey,
Speaker 8: I'm here to help you. And I'm like, I don't
Speaker 8: even ask for help. He just knew that I.
Speaker 3: One of the nicest guys ever, Like such a sweetheart.
Speaker 8: I want to say, this is the second time in
Speaker 8: some form of fashion he come through like this, but
Speaker 8: this was and ears ringing, h that's.
Speaker 7: Because you're feeling his energy. It's so the thing is,
Speaker 7: it's like, oh god, people think of this as SuperNature.
Speaker 7: He's given me chills too. I think people think of
Speaker 7: it as supernatural or paranormal. It's and you guys know,
Speaker 7: it's not super or para it's normal and natural. But
Speaker 7: it's society that tells us it isn't. That's why the
Speaker 7: Native Americans when I'm actually teaching a mediumship class for
Speaker 7: four weeks with my friend Nikki Blair, who is a
Speaker 7: Native American woman, and she she and the only reason
Speaker 7: that they're so intuitive is that it's part of their culture,
Speaker 7: Like you're never told that's fantasy. So she's like, yeah,
Speaker 7: I just grew up. And they'd be like, oh, there's Grandma,
Speaker 7: you don't. It's so commonplace in the Native American culture
Speaker 7: that they just know that it's real, and so there's
Speaker 7: no reason for them to doubt it.
Speaker 3: So they And doesn't that just give you a little
Speaker 3: bit of something like whenever you see proof like this
Speaker 3: that Bob is there somewhere, Bob is around, right, Bob
Speaker 3: is there, there's no way that whenever you die, it
Speaker 3: just fades to black right, like, he's right there. He
Speaker 3: didn't go up here, he didn't go down there, he's
Speaker 3: right here. And that is amazing to know, not only
Speaker 3: that Bob is right there, and other people can come
Speaker 3: in and stuff like that too. But to know that
Speaker 3: you can also be that kind of entity for somebody
Speaker 3: else whenever you pass on like that is awesome.
Speaker 7: Yes, And you know, like the Long Island medium once
Speaker 7: said that energy never dies, right, so like when it rains,
Speaker 7: it's like then water evaporates and it just cycle. It's
Speaker 7: like it just recycles. But and you could say, I,
Speaker 7: as a skeptic, would think to say, okay, energy never dies,
Speaker 7: but like consciousness, you know, but can they can talk still?
Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, energy vaporates into the air, but how
Speaker 7: are they still intact in their conscious form? And that
Speaker 7: would be if I were a skeptic, I would say, well,
Speaker 7: that doesn't mean that we can really talk to them.
Speaker 7: It just means that they're energy particles have dispersed. But
Speaker 7: now there are a lot of studies that show that
Speaker 7: consciousness does not need the body to exist. This is
Speaker 7: just a little uh set, like not a satellite, like
Speaker 7: a little radar antenna. This is just our little like
Speaker 7: radio antenna with which the soul, you know, through which
Speaker 7: the soul communicates. But it's completely That's why I was
Speaker 7: like magic is real and That's why every day now,
Speaker 7: I'm like, this is so every day is like magical
Speaker 7: because I look at it through the lens of spirituality.
Speaker 3: You know, what's really wild, too, is that you can
Speaker 3: find some really astounding like even science to back up
Speaker 3: a lot of this. I always love listening to like
Speaker 3: Joe Despenza fucking amazing, Like the way he's able to
Speaker 3: break a lot of that down scientifically is awesome. But
Speaker 3: just even like weird facts that you wouldn't necessarily think, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, here's one all right, so we all know
Speaker 3: that you can only see what was like point one
Speaker 3: percent of the entire light spectrum. So I means you
Speaker 3: literally can't see jack shit. You're you're like blind to
Speaker 3: almost everything that exists. But we but we think and
Speaker 3: like that's been proven right, like, but we think that
Speaker 3: we can see everything. Another one is I just heard
Speaker 3: about this the other day. My wife was telling me
Speaker 3: about it, and it was that, all right, so an
Speaker 3: atom is ninety nine point nine percent empty space, and
Speaker 3: every single thing in all of reality is made up
Speaker 3: of atoms. Right, So they said that if you were
Speaker 3: to take out all of the empty space in which
Speaker 3: makes up your body, right, if you were to take
Speaker 3: all that out, you would have zero point one percent left,
Speaker 3: and so much so that you'd be down to like
Speaker 3: the size of a grain of sand or something like that. Right,
Speaker 3: you know, if you would go and pick up that
Speaker 3: grain of sand, it would weigh exactly the same right
Speaker 3: now as if you were.
Speaker 8: That right, because all of the matter is still there.
Speaker 8: You know what I mean, You've just removed everything that's
Speaker 8: quote unquote empty.
Speaker 6: You've just removed the fluff, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like so good, like the weird things
Speaker 3: like that, Like that's that's the kind of stuff that
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, like we're we're not crazy, We're
Speaker 3: not full of shit. There's something absolutely going on right here.
Speaker 3: We just only have five senses, and we think that
Speaker 3: our five senses can read everything, right, but we we
Speaker 3: But that's the crazy thing is that we know that
Speaker 3: our five senses can't read everything. We know that there's
Speaker 3: wi fi all around us, can't see it, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like we know that there's air all
Speaker 3: around us, can't see that. We know that like wind blows,
Speaker 3: but like I mean, you can't tell unless you're standing
Speaker 3: in it or you see some trees, you know.
Speaker 8: Some information coming from Bob to Shannon. We couldn't see
Speaker 8: that right.
Speaker 3: And and the thing is is that you know, like
Speaker 3: the radio, for example, you just brought up the antenna,
Speaker 3: Like all you gotta do on a radio is just
Speaker 3: tune it to a specific frequency and then allows all
Speaker 3: that music or that talk show whatever to come in
Speaker 3: very clearly. And would you think that each person that
Speaker 3: you're that you're getting a read on in the ethereal realm,
Speaker 3: let's just call it, is that is that you trying
Speaker 3: to tune into their frequency or are they showing you
Speaker 3: their frequency and you're trying to connect to it? Like
Speaker 3: how how does that work? In your mind?
Speaker 6: Yeah? I actually this, I've heard this before.
Speaker 7: It's not it wasn't my original idea, but that what
Speaker 7: we're doing when we're doing mediumship is we're just tuning
Speaker 7: into a radio station.
Speaker 6: So we're and when we say raise our.
Speaker 7: Vibration, it's not that you have to be happy. I've
Speaker 7: been I've had like COVID and given a reading reading.
Speaker 7: I've had a migraine in giving a bin and given
Speaker 7: a reading. Because if spirit wants to say something, they'll
Speaker 7: make sure that I am able to deliver it.
Speaker 6: You don't have to always be up but you but you.
Speaker 7: I mean, it's easier if you're in a really great state,
Speaker 7: but you don't have to be it's really literally, they're
Speaker 7: always there, like you said, and they're kind of like
Speaker 7: the have Santa Claus where he can be in all
Speaker 7: places at once. So when people are like, wait, are
Speaker 7: my spirits? Are they watching me have sex and shower? No,
Speaker 7: like if like they know that that happened. I think
Speaker 7: it's like they're very they're aware of every single tiny
Speaker 7: moment of your day. But not in the sense that
Speaker 7: in the human sense that they're like judging what you're doing,
Speaker 7: or they don't have an It's not like it's not
Speaker 7: like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not sitting in a chair in a corner
Speaker 3: of the room, you know what I mean, they're out here.
Speaker 7: It's not even like I have to call them down,
Speaker 7: as you say. It's not like, hey, Grandma, come on down.
Speaker 7: But if I say, hey, Graham, I want to talk
Speaker 7: to you, instantly they're lowering their vibration to meet me
Speaker 7: where I am, and I'm hopefully raising.
Speaker 6: Mine a bit. But it doesn't even take effort.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't even I don't want to mislead people and
Speaker 7: say you have to raise your vibration, but overall you
Speaker 7: do through healing yourself from pain, you know, like working
Speaker 7: on yourself, being a good person, showing love to people,
Speaker 7: being kind, just generally being like a spiritual good person,
Speaker 7: You're going to raise your vibrations. So like, I don't
Speaker 7: mess with negative dark entities. I've never been bothered by them.
Speaker 7: I don't even Sometimes I'm like do they even exist?
Speaker 7: Because I've never seen them. But to answer your question,
Speaker 7: it's it's more that I'm tuning into their frequency just
Speaker 7: to like Bob, he was already here, but it's just.
Speaker 8: You paid attention to what hits you were getting.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was just like into his frequency. I'm like, hey, hey,
Speaker 7: whoever's here that wants to share something, just show me
Speaker 7: what I need to see and then like let me
Speaker 7: deliver it. And and like I said, usually it might
Speaker 7: be hey, you're doing like some encouragement.
Speaker 6: Bob came through.
Speaker 7: He's like giving me the impression of you or you're fine,
Speaker 7: You're not. You don't need the healing. So it's not
Speaker 7: like I have, it's you don't need. There's nothing that
Speaker 7: went unset. Like he knew he was proud to be
Speaker 7: your dad and like you were so happy to have
Speaker 7: him as your stepdad. And you know, for him, he's
Speaker 7: like he was my son. There's no step it's he
Speaker 7: was just my son and I love him.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he would, That's what he said to me.
Speaker 7: Just now, it's like there's no he said, there's no
Speaker 7: step it's he's my son. And so he knows that
Speaker 7: you guys are good and he knows that you believe
Speaker 7: in this stuff. So like you don't you talk to him.
Speaker 7: It's like I already talked to him, Like you might
Speaker 7: even have do you. I don't know if you actually
Speaker 7: have this, but like something hanging from your mirror in
Speaker 7: your car, something that has to do with him. But
Speaker 7: it's just something of like you have a touchstone for him.
Speaker 7: It's kind of like the idea where you kind of
Speaker 7: have something to hold on to, even if it's a
Speaker 7: spiritual thing, where it's just you have this connection.
Speaker 8: You know, I can't think of right off hand, but yeah,
Speaker 8: there's a thing that because my mom actually had she
Speaker 8: had gotten a new car and this was like five
Speaker 8: six years ago, yeah, maybe even longer, but it was
Speaker 8: after he passed already. No, no, I'm sorry he wasn't
Speaker 8: passed yet. And she has like a little white mouse
Speaker 8: that she put hanging there, Like it's like on the
Speaker 8: little handle, you know, like the one you would use
Speaker 8: to get up out of the car. Oh, and I've
Speaker 8: left it in there and it's always there and if
Speaker 8: it falls down, I'll grab it. Oh, make sure to
Speaker 8: put it back up. And I'm like, oh, it's like
Speaker 8: my good luck charm, you know. So maybe that's what
Speaker 8: you're thinking of.
Speaker 6: It could be, and I don't know.
Speaker 7: It's just as I was talking, I just saw something
Speaker 7: hanging from like in the car, from like a as
Speaker 7: you would like a mirror, like some people hang like
Speaker 7: a rabbit.
Speaker 8: And he he actually there was. We went through a
Speaker 8: lot of financial issues, you know, uh, my wife and I,
Speaker 8: and so every once in a while I would find
Speaker 8: like money in the car. He would like hide it
Speaker 8: somewhere and like I would need gas and then he's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 8: I put ten bucks underneath your floor mat. And then
Speaker 8: I would be like oh and then I'd go get
Speaker 8: gas real quick or whatever it was. And so he
Speaker 8: was just that's just how he was, you know. So
Speaker 8: you asked, is there mentioned like leaving something in the car.
Speaker 3: It's like, is there something that that maybe you could
Speaker 3: ask Bob, like some kind of sign or symbol to
Speaker 3: let Sean know that he's around, Like, is there anything
Speaker 3: that he could look at, Like, I don't know, a
Speaker 3: leaf or a bird or a f like you know
Speaker 3: how people look for symbols like that for signs from
Speaker 3: the other side.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think this is how I'm just thinking how
Speaker 7: to answer it. It's kind of like I I wouldn't
Speaker 7: even yeah, I would. I would tell you directly, to
Speaker 7: just talk to them directly, because I mean, and that's
Speaker 7: the other thing when I'm reading, like everything you say
Speaker 7: or think they hear you, because sometimes people will say,
Speaker 7: oh tell Dad.
Speaker 6: This, I'm like you just did. They're here.
Speaker 7: I'm just able to interpret their messages because I've learned
Speaker 7: how to do it. But you but so I would
Speaker 7: just say like, hey, I sometimes do this where I'm like, hey,
Speaker 7: spirit guides, be really fun if you could show me
Speaker 7: this sign and then you know, like the other day,
Speaker 7: I was like, I want to see seven seven seven,
Speaker 7: and literally like an hour later, I looked up at
Speaker 7: this building and there was a seven seven seven that
Speaker 7: was huge, Like it was like the only building on
Speaker 7: the block that had a massive number on it. And
Speaker 7: sometimes it won't be perfect. I always say, show me
Speaker 7: something or let me know that it's from you, even
Speaker 7: if it's not the seven seven seven.
Speaker 6: Get creative if you want to.
Speaker 7: It doesn't have to be that. But show me something
Speaker 7: where I know it's you. So I'll give you an example.
Speaker 7: And then also when people ask me, trying to retain
Speaker 7: the one thing I was going to tell you, when
Speaker 7: people say like, wait, oh yeah, so basically here's where
Speaker 7: I'm going to go. I asked for a sign from
Speaker 7: my friend in spirit, and I said, so, the last
Speaker 7: time I saw him alive, we were out on this
Speaker 7: farm in Virginia and he struggled with mental health issues
Speaker 7: and we'd had the funniest, randommest, weirdest, coolest day and
Speaker 7: he said to me, you know what, this is one
Speaker 7: of the best days of my life. And I said
Speaker 7: it is for me too, And he said, and he
Speaker 7: was living on my friend's farm in Virginia. They're all
Speaker 7: musicians and they lived there and I happened to be
Speaker 7: living there too. So at the same time, so he goes,
Speaker 7: you know this place. Ever since I've gotten here, I
Speaker 7: felt more peace than I've ever felt in my life.
Speaker 7: He goes this place is my Shankri Lat. So cut
Speaker 7: to last year. I'm driving for Amazon Flex in Sedona
Speaker 7: and I said, Derek, give me a sign and then
Speaker 7: the app said that your next stop is eleven eleven
Speaker 7: Shangri Law and I was like, you have got.
Speaker 6: To be kidding me, No way like that.
Speaker 7: And it was like right after I asked for it,
Speaker 7: it was the next stop. And so you might think,
Speaker 7: but how did he okay, but that was already on
Speaker 7: the Amazon lit like that was already where you were
Speaker 7: going to deliver.
Speaker 6: This is when time.
Speaker 3: There's no time on the other side, it's.
Speaker 6: Outside of time.
Speaker 7: So I don't know how, but Derek orchestrated this in
Speaker 7: another it didn't happen right then, it happened in some
Speaker 7: other everything everywhere, all at once. Thing where it's like
Speaker 7: I just said show me something that I know I
Speaker 7: will know as you. And another time I asked him
Speaker 7: for a sign and I looked over and his last
Speaker 7: name was.
Speaker 6: On the truck driving by me.
Speaker 7: I was like, that's that's like. But it's like, but
Speaker 7: that was gonna happen anyway, or was it. It's like
Speaker 7: or did he somehow orchestrate something.
Speaker 6: I know what I was going to say.
Speaker 7: So when people say, let's say I see a bird,
Speaker 7: how do I know it's a sign for my grandma,
Speaker 7: not just a bird. Sometimes a bird's just a bird,
Speaker 7: they exist, I said, the answer to that is you
Speaker 7: just know, like it's either the bird is acting differently,
Speaker 7: like pecking on your window or landing on your shoulder,
Speaker 7: but not always. Sometimes it's like you're thinking of them
Speaker 7: and you just know. And then when you see it,
Speaker 7: thank you, Bob for showing me that sign. I recognize
Speaker 7: that's you. You're going to start to see it everywhere
Speaker 7: because they're like, he gets it, he gets my and
Speaker 7: then they're going to start sending you more of the same. So, yeah,
Speaker 7: there was something else. I had an example of that
Speaker 7: that was really cool.
Speaker 8: But whatever, Oh I love that, I love Yeah, it
Speaker 8: all makes sense.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 8: There was one time I was doing that with the universe.
Speaker 8: You know, it's like if everything's connected and the universe
Speaker 8: is really rooting for me, you know, I kind of
Speaker 8: just wanted to play with this and I was like,
Speaker 8: let me see how abundant the universe is, you know,
Speaker 8: and then show me something and then like five minutes later,
Speaker 8: someone was like walking out of Starbucks and just gave
Speaker 8: me a coffee and I was like, Oh, that's so cool.
Speaker 8: And so I think it's just there's a lot to
Speaker 8: do with putting your attention to certain things. I think
Speaker 8: that like the tarot, like synchronicities, like everything else, Like
Speaker 8: seeing a bird, it's because you put your attention and
Speaker 8: took yourself out of that mind numbing state of scrolling
Speaker 8: or worrying about bullshit, and you started to look up
Speaker 8: and actually pay attention to right now. All of a sudden,
Speaker 8: you see something and you're like, oh, I saw that
Speaker 8: in a dream or you know, and you can start
Speaker 8: to put the pieces together. And that's just how magical
Speaker 8: and intertwined this place really is. And just this experience
Speaker 8: tonight was just overwhelmingly just proof to me that there's
Speaker 8: definitely something else going on.
Speaker 3: Well, Shannon, you must be getting that from the underworld,
Speaker 3: because that wouldn't be coming from above.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean every it's yeah, it's insane, like it's
Speaker 7: wild when you Yeah, it's it's partly asking for signs
Speaker 7: sometimes though it's just undeniable, like you just are like
Speaker 7: that his name is right there on something, or like, oh,
Speaker 7: I know what I was going to tell you. There's
Speaker 7: also pay attention to this people. Sometimes spirit will talk
Speaker 7: through other people. So one day my mom was thinking
Speaker 7: about my godmother who'd passed ages ago, and she wasn't
Speaker 7: I was born in Australia, she was out there. We
Speaker 7: didn't really know her for very long, but she became
Speaker 7: my godmother. But hadn't thought about her in years. And
Speaker 7: then she was sitting in her room she's like, I'm
Speaker 7: thinking about Josephine. And then my dad walked in and goes.
Speaker 6: Hey, Pet.
Speaker 7: She's like, why did you just call me pet? That's
Speaker 7: what Josephine used to call me. He goes, I don't know,
Speaker 7: I just said it. She goes, your father has never
Speaker 7: once in his entire life called me Pet. I say
Speaker 7: Australia because it's more of like a you know, it's
Speaker 7: more of like a Australian or like a British kind
Speaker 7: of a thing to call someone.
Speaker 6: She used to call her Pet.
Speaker 7: And then my mom my dad just cluelessly walks in
Speaker 7: and says the nickname. It's like, at the very moment,
Speaker 7: so how do you I mean, my dad doesn't call
Speaker 7: her pet.
Speaker 3: That is that is just out there, you know. And
Speaker 3: I feel like that too, because there's sometimes even I
Speaker 3: I feel like I say like even whenever I'm talking,
Speaker 3: because you know, I talk for a lifting so so
Speaker 3: I'm saying a lot of words all the time, and
Speaker 3: there's there's sometimes where I say a word that I
Speaker 3: literally never say that I've never thought of, like in
Speaker 3: probably years, I probably never even used it in a
Speaker 3: sentence before, and for some reason it just pops up,
Speaker 3: like that's.
Speaker 8: The one time you said skid daddle. I'm sure ski daddle.
Speaker 3: But look, I did want to get over to the chat.
Speaker 3: We kind of been an ignored. We're not ignoring, y'all.
Speaker 3: It was just that we got sucked into the conversation.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, so just to get started here, the
Speaker 3: white boy Wizard, what up? Said? Good evening you lovely?
Speaker 3: Is it by pedal? Is that how you say that?
Speaker 3: I people have made fun of me for saying it
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 8: How do you say?
Speaker 3: I thought it was by peedle water drinking weirdos? Okay,
Speaker 3: all right, I do got my my structured water. Yeah, buddy,
Speaker 3: he said, Uh, definitely feels like it was nine months,
Speaker 3: you know, just with the week off.
Speaker 8: Last week, I did feel like a long time I
Speaker 8: was starting to question reality. You know, It's like, who.
Speaker 3: Am I do? I even do a podcast? Or I
Speaker 3: just podcast?
Speaker 8: I picked that up?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Uh, Brid said, hey everyone, what up? Britt white
Speaker 3: Boy Wizard said, our fearless leader is the fucking bomb
Speaker 3: Beezy baby you know you know. Taylor said, glad you're back.
Speaker 3: Last Wednesday was bull ring indeed. Yeah, also said in
Speaker 3: my mediumship readings, when when spirit is there, I literally
Speaker 3: vibrate like anxiety and I hear in quotes spirit in
Speaker 3: the back of my skull. It is interesting how spirit
Speaker 3: makes us feel when they are around, and it's fun
Speaker 3: once you figure it out.
Speaker 6: Yeah, totally relate with that. Yes, yes, the back of
Speaker 6: your head. I don't know how to explain it. It's
Speaker 6: just right there.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, which, you know, probably something to do with
Speaker 3: your spine and your nervous system and everything like that,
Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, in the Cundalini I think rises up
Speaker 3: through the back too, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Kara said, hello everyone, I'm so glad you guys are back.
Speaker 5: What up?
Speaker 4: Kara?
Speaker 3: Oh, And Kara also said, my dog's name is Murphy.
Speaker 3: I call him Smurf. He has blue myrtle color.
Speaker 6: Oh oh interesting, Okay.
Speaker 3: That's strange. I love it. Nonora the Explorer said recently,
Speaker 3: in the past two weeks, I had to put down
Speaker 3: my fur baby. He was my best friend and he
Speaker 3: was with me for every major experience in my adult life.
Speaker 3: He was twelve years old and I'm turning thirty this year.
Speaker 3: I will miss him for the rest of my life.
Speaker 3: I hate to hear that.
Speaker 7: And I will say that animals come to me in
Speaker 7: readings all the time, and I just thought I had
Speaker 7: to put my cat done at Christmas time. I'm so
Speaker 7: sorry for your loss, and it does not make it
Speaker 7: less sad, but it is also they fully communicate as
Speaker 7: much as any But Barney told you. Barney came through
Speaker 7: to say, don't feel guilty.
Speaker 6: I'm okay.
Speaker 3: Wow. So all dogs go to heaven.
Speaker 6: They do their souls.
Speaker 3: I love it. Yeah. And grimbo Slice, the big grim
Speaker 3: Bowski is in the house. You see that sexy beast
Speaker 3: right there? What up? What's up? Dude? Well, you popped in.
Speaker 3: You popped in at the perfect time, because.
Speaker 9: Absolutely, dude. And what was wild is as soon as
Speaker 9: I got in, I my whole entire body was just
Speaker 9: like vibrating like a motherfucker, and I'm just like, oh shit,
Speaker 9: what the fuck is going on in her? So and
Speaker 9: then like I had a pretty stressful day. I'm not
Speaker 9: gonna lie, so I'm just kind of like okay, like
Speaker 9: I you know, I needed, I need to do something.
Speaker 9: And like now I'm like to the point where I'm
Speaker 9: just like, Okay, I'm feeling good. I obviously came into
Speaker 9: this for at the right reasons, at the right time
Speaker 9: and everything. So here the funk we are. And this
Speaker 9: is blunt number two.
Speaker 3: So let's go tune in battle it for you, all right.
Speaker 3: So you're actually not the first psychic we've had on
Speaker 3: this show. Our favorite one of our favorite people to
Speaker 3: come on this show is Casandra van Zandt and she's
Speaker 3: come on the show a few times and she always
Speaker 3: blows our mind with a lot of this reading type
Speaker 3: stuff and teaching us. And so I always like to,
Speaker 3: you know, listen to how people are comprehending these like
Speaker 3: psychic type of messages, and you guys are really similarly
Speaker 3: similar in the way that you explain it. So I
Speaker 3: think if anything, that honestly just validates a lot because
Speaker 3: I know that you know, look, we grew up like
Speaker 3: watching that so raven or you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And I think that TV shows and movies and stuff
Speaker 3: like that, maybe they try to emulate what is really
Speaker 3: going on, but people take it to literally.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And so whenever you're seeing or sensing or hearing or
Speaker 3: or getting some kind of message from the other side,
Speaker 3: it's not like you're like, there it is, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: see it right now in front of my face. It's
Speaker 3: more more of like a damn, I almost like broke
Speaker 3: my neck on that. But but it's it seems like
Speaker 3: it's more of just a message that is coming, that
Speaker 3: is coming in that you're not hearing with your ears,
Speaker 3: you're not seeing with your eyes. It's it is like
Speaker 3: an intuitive type of thing, a sixth sense kind of thing, like,
Speaker 3: and that is so interesting me. I feel like we've
Speaker 3: been trying to really hone in on our own kind
Speaker 3: of psychic skills because I think that is one of
Speaker 3: just the coolest I know. You said it's not a superpower,
Speaker 3: but to people that aren't there yet, it's viewed as
Speaker 3: a superpower. Yeah, and it really is like something special
Speaker 3: to it.
Speaker 8: And so and another thing that you said too, and
Speaker 8: it's something that we hear all the time is that
Speaker 8: we can all do this. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: If someone came on here and was trying to tell
Speaker 8: us that they had something special and only they could
Speaker 8: do this kind of thing, then I would question that.
Speaker 8: But it the common thread here has been that we
Speaker 8: can all do this. It's just a matter of listening
Speaker 8: to those subtleties in this reality and really trying to
Speaker 8: hone in on that and pay attention to it. And
Speaker 8: everything that you said tonight was already. I know we're
Speaker 8: not done yet, but I'm just blown away. And I
Speaker 8: really appreciate the information that you've I appreciate.
Speaker 6: You being ope.
Speaker 7: I just appreciate when people are open to it. And
Speaker 7: you know, a lot of times people will say you
Speaker 7: have such a gift, and I'm like, it's literally we
Speaker 7: all have this gift where some of us are more
Speaker 7: sensitive by nature, just like our brain wiring is different,
Speaker 7: and it not everybody's as sensitive. Like I don't see spirit,
Speaker 7: but I have friends who can and I but I,
Speaker 7: but we are all able to learn it. We're all
Speaker 7: able to communicate and connect with spirit. It's just kind
Speaker 7: of more fun when someone does it for you. So
Speaker 7: even I go to mediums because it's like I want
Speaker 7: because I know I can connect with them. But it's
Speaker 7: fun more fun to have someone who's never met me,
Speaker 7: or even a new.
Speaker 6: Friend of mine who's like, who's this person?
Speaker 7: Or and you're like, who, I know they didn't know,
Speaker 7: or they mentioned somebody that like I've never mentioned to them,
Speaker 7: or you know, it's just then it's validating to me
Speaker 7: even to remember. Yeah, Derek's right, he's literally with me
Speaker 7: all the time, and I know it, I feel him
Speaker 7: all the time.
Speaker 8: Well, he said, if you know these people's names, you
Speaker 8: know these people, it's easy for you to pull up
Speaker 8: that name because you know the name. So someone else
Speaker 8: does it and they don't know, then.
Speaker 6: It's pretty validation, right exactly.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: And I've heard it called what is it called telempathy,
Speaker 3: which I think is an interesting term with with the
Speaker 3: psychic ability. Do you feel like the term telempathy fits
Speaker 3: correctly telepathy? Well, it's telepathy and empathy at the same time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Oh that's because I knew. I'm like, I think
Speaker 7: that he meant to say telempathy. I think that is
Speaker 7: a really nice blending of the two because the other
Speaker 7: thing is that we communicate telepathically, like I don't know
Speaker 7: if it was Bob or just that when you said
Speaker 7: the lottery ticket thing, I was tapping into. So there's
Speaker 7: a difference between meat, psychic and medium. So psychic is
Speaker 7: I'm blending with your energy, although we say psychic medium,
Speaker 7: but there are two different things. So like a psychic
Speaker 7: reading would be like I'm telling you about your life.
Speaker 7: It's like and I'm getting that from blending with your energy.
Speaker 7: And I'm kind of like, I see that you're a writer.
Speaker 7: I see that you're going to be doing a comedy
Speaker 7: sketch thing. I see that you know, like I really
Speaker 7: feel like you've let religion go and like I can
Speaker 7: and now you're sort of embracing this new thing. And
Speaker 7: you were like I can see things about you. But
Speaker 7: then and then there's but then with mediumship, I'm getting
Speaker 7: the information from your grandma, I'm getting the information from
Speaker 7: your sister on the other side, not from I mean
Speaker 7: maybe I'm getting some of it. But and then there's
Speaker 7: also remote viewing, which I've also found out I could do,
Speaker 7: which was sane. And so there's like tell before a week, yeah,
Speaker 7: and I know I won't I'll be aware of time.
Speaker 7: But I was giving a reading once when I was practicing,
Speaker 7: like wasn't even a working medium yet, and I said,
Speaker 7: you know, I'm just going to ask your.
Speaker 6: Mom to show me around your house. This is was
Speaker 6: my intention.
Speaker 7: I don't know how I did it, but I was like,
Speaker 7: so I said, Okay, what I'm seeing is there's I
Speaker 7: can still see it to this day. I'm like, there's
Speaker 7: this hallway in the back, yes, and then this is
Speaker 7: your bedroom. But then on the right there's this other
Speaker 7: room and I said, that's your junk room. That's where
Speaker 7: you just throw shit and it's not really organized. No judgment,
Speaker 7: but I was like, I see that there's like no
Speaker 7: comfort around the bed. It's just like there's a suitcase
Speaker 7: in there and there's like sheets and a pillow. And
Speaker 7: I'm like, and then I'm seeing Raggedy Ann and she goes,
Speaker 7: oh my god, She's like, come with me, takes her iPad,
Speaker 7: walk into the room. Raggedy Ann is sitting there on
Speaker 7: the freaking dresser and she's and there was a suitcase there,
Speaker 7: and there was I was seeing the room remotely.
Speaker 6: I didn't even know I could do that.
Speaker 7: It was just like I just the way I did
Speaker 7: it was I said show I said to the spirit world,
Speaker 7: show me that room. Now, I don't know if that's
Speaker 7: how I did it, but that's kind of how I
Speaker 7: was like, Well, maybe she'll show me something in the house,
Speaker 7: like a picture of you two or whatever. But instead,
Speaker 7: I mean, how would I know Raggedy Ann was there?
Speaker 7: This woman was single and didn't have any kids, like
Speaker 7: she was like fifty something years old.
Speaker 8: But the way in which you were seeing this room
Speaker 8: or the inside of this house is as though if
Speaker 8: I were to ask you to visualize an apple, that's
Speaker 8: how you were seeing it.
Speaker 6: Yep, that's so funny.
Speaker 7: You said that because I chose when I said visualize
Speaker 7: your dog, I was going to say an apple because
Speaker 7: that's the way people have described it to me, and
Speaker 7: maybe that's where you've got.
Speaker 8: It doing it back to you.
Speaker 7: Now, Yeah, I was going to say an apple. I'm like,
Speaker 7: that's been used. I was like, I'll try something else.
Speaker 7: It's like when I say picture what an apple looks like,
Speaker 7: wherever you're seeing that image is where I see what
Speaker 7: your person looked like. Like I sometimes I won't see
Speaker 7: what they look like, but sometimes they'll be like they're
Speaker 7: showing me a feature that's standing out, like ringlets, like
Speaker 7: blonde ringlets or something, and that's a very or they'll
Speaker 7: say oh, I had the most beautiful blue eyes or
Speaker 7: something of that nature, and they're like, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 7: So I may not know exactly what. I won't see
Speaker 7: them like I see you, but i'll kind of get
Speaker 7: an impression. Like Bob, I can tell he's kind of stocky.
Speaker 7: It's I can't quite tell. I saw him as dark haired,
Speaker 7: but I but that might not be right. I don't,
Speaker 7: but that's kind of just I picked.
Speaker 8: You got the scar on his that.
Speaker 6: That's what I saw.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And so there are things like that where I
Speaker 7: might scan their body and see what I can see,
Speaker 7: like oh, yeah, he's showing me this thing there and
Speaker 7: then like oh, you always wear a certain belts that
Speaker 7: was like a cow it had like a Then this
Speaker 7: might not be right, but it's like a belt with
Speaker 7: like a cowboy kind of thing on it or something.
Speaker 6: I don't know, is that a thing that he had?
Speaker 8: Yeah, well cowboy Bob was like you guys probably think
Speaker 8: I'm making this ship up, but it's a he was.
Speaker 8: He was pretty silly and there was just he used
Speaker 8: to say, Oh, cowboy Bob, you know yehaw or you
Speaker 8: know what I mean. He would just be safe, silly like.
Speaker 7: That cowboy belt, and so I was like, that's it
Speaker 7: was almost like it has like a cowboy theme or something.
Speaker 7: But if that's he might even if he didn't literally
Speaker 7: have a belt like that, that's his way of getting
Speaker 7: me to say cowboy so that you know it's him.
Speaker 7: So yeah, sometimes it's just a symbol, like there's something
Speaker 7: about a cowboy belt or you know, something like that,
Speaker 7: and I might hear like a song, you know, or
Speaker 7: or like a snippet of something. That's how he kind
Speaker 7: of shows me his he comes.
Speaker 8: He would he would he would like if he was
Speaker 8: in a really good mood or whatever, he'd say like, oh,
Speaker 8: cowboy Bob, and then he would act like he was
Speaker 8: lastling something and I'm like, what are you doing? You know?
Speaker 8: But that makes total sense.
Speaker 7: Was like dark hair, darker haired, dark hair. Yeah, and
Speaker 7: I just saw him as stocky. But if you showed
Speaker 7: me a picture, I'd probably go, oh, that's not really
Speaker 7: what I pictured, but I still described him correctly. It's
Speaker 7: like I've had that happen before where I'm like describing
Speaker 7: the person. They're like, that's him, that's exactly him. But
Speaker 7: if I were to draw like an artist, schedule would
Speaker 7: not match, it wouldn't match. It's just that I got
Speaker 7: like I was like, oh, that's not what I thought.
Speaker 7: But I did get beard, blue eyes, kind of long,
Speaker 7: shaggy hair or like kind of right, and then it's
Speaker 7: like that's not what I pictured, But it's just an impression.
Speaker 8: Or a symbol.
Speaker 3: Like you said, yeah, you know, Sean, you're gonna have
Speaker 3: to uh, you're gonna have to have your mom listen
Speaker 3: to this, bro.
Speaker 8: I think, oh, I know, I think she would definitely
Speaker 8: appreciate it.
Speaker 7: For she will because the reason, I mean, the reason
Speaker 7: he comes through is to let you know he's still
Speaker 7: very much alive.
Speaker 6: But also I know it's because your mom. But they
Speaker 6: were married when he.
Speaker 8: Passed, yes, yeah, I mean she was with them all
Speaker 8: the way.
Speaker 3: To the end.
Speaker 7: Yeah. And I just I kind of thought had that
Speaker 7: thought earlier of just kind of like it would be
Speaker 7: I was gonna say it, but it's so obvious. It's like,
Speaker 7: of course he sends your mom love, but it's I
Speaker 7: think that's he'd have to show me something, you know.
Speaker 6: But there's but but definitely.
Speaker 7: He just wants her to know that he's safe and
Speaker 7: at peace as well, just so that she has that
Speaker 7: knowledge which she may already understand, right, but when you
Speaker 7: lose your partner, I mean that's like one of the hardest.
Speaker 8: Yeah, be so hard. Yeah, And you know, it was
Speaker 8: kind of in my mind. I know that there's divine
Speaker 8: timing and it's on that timing and not our timing.
Speaker 8: But in my mind and in everybody's mind, he should
Speaker 8: still be here, you know, as far as how old
Speaker 8: he was and just kind of how everything played out,
Speaker 8: you know, and so but you know, that's just how
Speaker 8: things go. And but the symbols and the things that
Speaker 8: you picked up on, I couldn't have thought of better
Speaker 8: ones to portray who you know, for you to put
Speaker 8: in my mind that he's here. Yeah, so that gives
Speaker 8: you any And it feels too.
Speaker 6: Like divine timing with your mom needing to hear it
Speaker 6: right now.
Speaker 7: That's something he just said to me, is like you
Speaker 7: may not she may not vocalize it, but like for
Speaker 7: it maybe time of year, it might be something that's
Speaker 7: like really bringing up the grief that's fresh. But also
Speaker 7: I just wanted to say real quick though too. He
Speaker 7: showed me when I see red balloons, that means it's
Speaker 7: a birthday. So obviously everyone has a birthday coming up,
Speaker 7: but I just wondered if it's like whose birthday is.
Speaker 8: Like just my well, it was my wife's birthday yesterday.
Speaker 6: Okay, that's it was a happy birthday from here. That's
Speaker 6: what it was like.
Speaker 7: I saw it and I forgot to say. I was like,
Speaker 7: there was something remember how I was like, there's something
Speaker 7: else I can't remember. He showed me a bunch of
Speaker 7: red balloons, and that's h I sound like that. That's
Speaker 7: my symbol for spirits trying to say it's somebody's birthday
Speaker 7: and they're saying happy birthday.
Speaker 6: So that's him.
Speaker 7: And it's usually like within the week, you know, like
Speaker 7: it's it's very close or significant birthday.
Speaker 6: So that would be him, just kind of wishing, Oh.
Speaker 8: My god, this is blowing me away because he he
Speaker 8: would be the one to call her like first, because
Speaker 8: he was always up in the morning, and so he
Speaker 8: would be the one like every year. My wife has
Speaker 8: even mentioned this that I'm getting kind of emotional.
Speaker 7: Her name is. I'm just asking this, okay, because I
Speaker 7: heard I thought I heard Robin somewhere, but anyway, go on.
Speaker 8: But yeah, so he would he would always and my
Speaker 8: wife mentioned that, like, oh, Bob, you know this is
Speaker 8: after he passed, and he would always tell me happy Birthday.
Speaker 8: Every he would always remember to call me on my birthday.
Speaker 8: And so that I'm just getting.
Speaker 6: He's like, I'm still calling you. I didn't forget your birthday.
Speaker 7: And he also he just wants her to know that
Speaker 7: he was totally there, like you know, he was there,
Speaker 7: He was with you both as you just celebrated her life.
Speaker 7: And so that's yeah, I forgot to give you that message.
Speaker 7: That's why he showed it to me again. It's like,
Speaker 7: do you forget don't forget to tell her.
Speaker 8: Emotional on an episode before this. This is too much.
Speaker 8: This is too much. Thank you by the way, Oh god.
Speaker 7: It's my pleasure. And I love when men get emotional.
Speaker 7: It just makes me like I want, don't cry.
Speaker 3: Sean's a big softy, He's a big teddy bear.
Speaker 7: And men really need I've been thinking it's been on
Speaker 7: my mind and my heart lately of just so many
Speaker 7: men that are just they need help.
Speaker 6: And I don't mean it in a pedantic way.
Speaker 7: I mean they need like support and love, and they
Speaker 7: need to be able to express themselves and to cry
Speaker 7: and to get back in touch with that side of
Speaker 7: themselves because absolutely society tells you you're supposed to be tough,
Speaker 7: and like it is tough. It is tough to be
Speaker 7: to cry and show vulnerability. So I just wish more
Speaker 7: men could feel as comfortable expressing that, you know, so
Speaker 7: I appreciate that too.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, God, this is so crazy and it
Speaker 3: just blows my mind, like every single detail, it's like
Speaker 3: so crazy. Yeah. I mean her name wasn't Robin, it
Speaker 3: was It's Lauren though, so you got the end right.
Speaker 7: I don't know if I Bob I saw like Robin,
Speaker 7: but it almost seemed like the red Robin like logo
Speaker 7: or something.
Speaker 6: So I don't know if that means anything.
Speaker 8: But I'm not sure.
Speaker 7: I'm sometimes Also what I tell my clients is sometimes
Speaker 7: it could be for someone else, that there's someone named Robin,
Speaker 7: but it's Robi n not Hyan that I'm seeing it.
Speaker 6: It could be for someone else.
Speaker 7: But also what I tell all my clients is any
Speaker 7: medium is only any good medium is only eighty percent accurate,
Speaker 7: because I'm still a human and I still have my
Speaker 7: own floating thoughts. So the only reason, the only thing
Speaker 7: that sets me apart from you is what I tell
Speaker 7: them is you're a medium too. I'm just trained to
Speaker 7: winnow grain from chaff to figure out what's coming from
Speaker 7: me and what's coming from spirit. And as you practice,
Speaker 7: you get better and better at it. But sometimes my
Speaker 7: own thoughts get in the mix and then it just
Speaker 7: comes out and I'm like, but most of the time,
Speaker 7: I'm finding that there's a reason.
Speaker 3: And so you know, is there any quirky practices that
Speaker 3: you do have, like putting your crystals out under a
Speaker 3: full moon, or do you sage your incense or any
Speaker 3: kind of magical incantations? Affirmations like do you meditate frequently?
Speaker 3: Like what are other things that help you be, like
Speaker 3: become more in tune like you are.
Speaker 7: That's a great question. I used to do more of it.
Speaker 7: I try to meditate.
Speaker 6: I don't try. I just sometimes feel like it.
Speaker 7: I meditate, but I do guided meditations like on YouTube.
Speaker 7: I don't find that just sitting in silence often sometimes
Speaker 7: I do that meditation one hundred percent. If you're trying
Speaker 7: to develop and don't try and then don't when you're
Speaker 7: in meditation, just let it fall in. Don't and don't
Speaker 7: try to connect with spirit. Just try to connect with yourself.
Speaker 7: So like on my podcast, I have a sitting in
Speaker 7: the Power meditation that I created. Just sitting in the
Speaker 7: power is what mediums do, and all that means is,
Speaker 7: don't try to connect with spirit right now.
Speaker 6: Just feel your own energy.
Speaker 7: So that like the meditation is feeling what you feel like,
Speaker 7: so it's really sinking into just being still and what
Speaker 7: is your So that way, when another spirit comes in,
Speaker 7: you can tell you notice, ooh, this is a different energy.
Speaker 7: So ideally I would tell people to do.
Speaker 6: A sitting in the power meditation. They're all over.
Speaker 7: Tony Stockwell has a good one on YouTube, so that
Speaker 7: you know what your own energy feels like. And once
Speaker 7: you start to get the subtle feeling of that, then
Speaker 7: you can go, oh this person, I'm feeling somebody different
Speaker 7: coming in. So there's that. I do not know what
Speaker 7: I think about crystals. I just think they're really pretty.
Speaker 6: So I don't know.
Speaker 7: I mean I do sometimes I keep them out if
Speaker 7: I'm doing a reading and I like candles, but it
Speaker 7: doesn't mean that that's the only I just got ringing
Speaker 7: in my ear.
Speaker 6: It doesn't mean that you have to do that. That
Speaker 6: just for me.
Speaker 7: It's more of a ceremonial intention setting. Like I like
Speaker 7: the vibe. I love the way crystals look and feel,
Speaker 7: so I have them, and people say they're magical whatever,
Speaker 7: I'm like, I don't.
Speaker 6: I can't.
Speaker 7: I don't know if they are not. But I just
Speaker 7: like them, and I don't. I do a lot of
Speaker 7: like Women's circle things. I like to just kind of
Speaker 7: commune with people. But I don't do like the witchy ceremonies.
Speaker 7: Although I have done a lot of manifestation, so yes,
Speaker 7: I have done not spells. It's more just money, candle affirmations,
Speaker 7: writing down my intention. And also I'll say that mediumship
Speaker 7: is all just intention too. I just am intending right
Speaker 7: now to connect. That's what I'm doing. And so when
Speaker 7: I'm doing a manifestation ritual, it's really for myself. There's
Speaker 7: no right or wrong way in my mind. It's like
Speaker 7: just as you're burning, perhaps its a green candle to
Speaker 7: represent money. It's not that the candle's magical, it's just
Speaker 7: it's like the intention. And then I like to put Yeah,
Speaker 7: I do put crystals around, and I have a crystal
Speaker 7: ball that my fourteen year old niece when she was
Speaker 7: fourteen got me, which was cute, and I just put
Speaker 7: them all out.
Speaker 6: But it's not like it's necessary.
Speaker 7: And I usually meditate before, but sometimes I'm in a
Speaker 7: rush and I'm like, oh shit, I didn't have time
Speaker 7: to meditate. But then I just do a quick intention
Speaker 7: and I'll just I say, like God, Angels.
Speaker 6: Spirit guides, Jesus, whoever's around.
Speaker 7: I basically say, please come into this reading and help
Speaker 7: me to be of service to my client and to
Speaker 7: the spirit world. Let all of the messages that come
Speaker 7: in be in so and so's highest and best good
Speaker 7: and in the highest and best good in the spirit world.
Speaker 7: And then I say, angels, arch angels, please protect us
Speaker 7: from any entities that would confuse us or wish to
Speaker 7: do us harm. I just set an intention of let
Speaker 7: my own ego go away, my own self judgment, and
Speaker 7: just let me be a clear channel for spirit. And
Speaker 7: then I'm just like, thank you. And then I'll say
Speaker 7: I trust you, I trust you. I trust you, and
Speaker 7: that's mine because sometimes I have trouble trusting, Like you know,
Speaker 7: I just have to remember it's not about trusting myself
Speaker 7: it's I trust you to do with me what you will,
Speaker 7: and I'm going to get out all my own mental
Speaker 7: clutter of self judgment and and bias and all of that.
Speaker 7: Just get all of that out.
Speaker 3: So I've heard on like, I love watching like those
Speaker 3: ghost hunter type shows. They're just the most fun. And
Speaker 3: actually Sean put me on one that Sam and Colby
Speaker 3: ghost Hunting show.
Speaker 4: Wat too.
Speaker 3: That shit is awesome. That's like the best ghost show.
Speaker 3: That would be insane. But I've heard some ghost Hunting
Speaker 3: shows say, well that basically they're allowing the spirits to
Speaker 3: use their own energy to present themselves. Do you feel
Speaker 3: like that's I do?
Speaker 6: I think?
Speaker 7: And it's yeah, because I've never really liked ghost hunter shows.
Speaker 7: I mean I do, but then I'm always like, this
Speaker 7: is so dumb because they're doing it for they have
Speaker 7: to come up with something for the for the show.
Speaker 7: And it doesn't mean I don't believe in it, you know,
Speaker 7: but I've I've been there with the Tennessee Raith Chasers
Speaker 7: once did a thing at this museum where I was
Speaker 7: kind of like a medium that they like to have around,
Speaker 7: just at the Civil War Museum in Virginia, and they're
Speaker 7: invited me to it, and it as much as I
Speaker 7: know they're doing they are doing this work and they
Speaker 7: are legit. It's just that because people paid like a
Speaker 7: hundred bucks a head, they had to produce results, and
Speaker 7: I just kind of was like, is this It felt
Speaker 7: really performative in a way where I'm like, seriously, like.
Speaker 6: All these missions. I'm not saying they were faking. I
Speaker 6: don't know.
Speaker 7: I just kind of felt like when there's someone's paying
Speaker 7: for it, or there's a TV show, you've got to
Speaker 7: ramp up the drama and you've got to come up
Speaker 7: with something. So I'm not accusing them of anything. It's
Speaker 7: just like the editing and all that stuff. I'm always like,
Speaker 7: I don't know, I don't I don't know, but I.
Speaker 3: Mean, trust me, I definitely get it. Growing up watching
Speaker 3: Pimp My Ride and then finding out that those people
Speaker 3: didn't get to keep their car, I'm like, I can't
Speaker 3: believe on TV anymore.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I live in LA I'm an actor.
Speaker 7: I just I know a lot of that stuff. How
Speaker 7: it's for even reality shows, they're real, but they're also scripted,
Speaker 7: you know, like they are real, but they're like giving
Speaker 7: you an idea and they're like, go have this talk,
Speaker 7: and so that's my I just never really like them
Speaker 7: because I feel like I'm waiting and waiting and waiting
Speaker 7: for something big to happen. But I do believe like
Speaker 7: places retain energy, so that like, I don't know that
Speaker 7: necessarily there's stuck spirits. Some people believe that, and I
Speaker 7: that's fine, I don't. I feel like God doesn't make
Speaker 7: mistakes and like spirits don't get left behind. I think
Speaker 7: that they're just imprints kind of like of old energy
Speaker 7: and spirits.
Speaker 6: That did have a strong connection.
Speaker 7: But I don't feel like there's I mean, I could
Speaker 7: be wrong, but I don't feel like they're stuck there.
Speaker 3: I mean people get stuck in life though, well if you.
Speaker 7: Look at it that way, from like a from like
Speaker 7: a spiritual but I don't think that they didn't make
Speaker 7: it to the other side as much as like they're
Speaker 7: just still there because there's a lot of strong energy imprint.
Speaker 7: And again I don't know. I know people will disagree
Speaker 7: with me. I just feel it just doesn't feel right
Speaker 7: to me, based on what I've experienced and what near
Speaker 7: death experiencers have told me, that like even no matter
Speaker 7: what happens, you're gonna go to the like you're going
Speaker 7: to cross over, but you might have different layers of
Speaker 7: where you go. Not that there's I don't believe in
Speaker 7: hell or but I do believe that there are like states.
Speaker 6: Of consciousness that are hell.
Speaker 7: So if you aren't, if you've done really horrible things
Speaker 7: in your life, I don't think you are damned to
Speaker 7: a fiery furnace for the rest of your life. I
Speaker 7: think you go back to your light, but you may
Speaker 7: have to do some work on the other side, and
Speaker 7: so you may still be in more of a low,
Speaker 7: lower vibration than someone who was Mother Teresa. But I
Speaker 7: don't think that it means you can't get to that
Speaker 7: level because you made this. We're all given free will,
Speaker 7: and anything that anyone does that's evil, in my mind,
Speaker 7: is indoctrination, trauma, mental illness. Like nobody does horrible things
Speaker 7: because for any other reason. I mean, it's like either
Speaker 7: they were abused, they're mentally ill, or they were indoctrinated
Speaker 7: to hate or something. I don't think that means their
Speaker 7: soul is inherently evil, but that's just me. I think
Speaker 7: we're all put to these bodies and then our brains
Speaker 7: get scrambled and then we do bad things. But it
Speaker 7: doesn't mean you can't redeem yourself. Like when you go
Speaker 7: to the other side and have your life review, I
Speaker 7: believe that you're like, it's not a judgment, it's just
Speaker 7: look at what you did and how do you want
Speaker 7: to evolve and how do you want to change that?
Speaker 3: And look at it from every angle too, which is
Speaker 3: which is interesting.
Speaker 7: To sit in their shoes, like you did something bad
Speaker 7: to someone, it's not a punishment. It's just like you
Speaker 7: get to experience how they felt by what you did,
Speaker 7: even if it was a slight little comment that you
Speaker 7: made that you and they and it's not to punish you.
Speaker 7: It's just so you can go, oh wow, yeah I
Speaker 7: could have done better. I could have done a better job.
Speaker 3: Right. Oh man, You see this is like our favorite
Speaker 3: shit ever. I mean, look, we we could literally talk
Speaker 3: to you all now. And but Sean, do we have
Speaker 3: a tarot card pulled?
Speaker 8: Sir? We got the six of wands my good duds
Speaker 8: six of one. And you know what's funny about this
Speaker 8: is I actually I pulled it right before the episode,
Speaker 8: and sometimes I'll pull it during the episode and maybe
Speaker 8: I will pull another one. But it was funny because
Speaker 8: I was like, oh, that's weird because I think I've
Speaker 8: gotten this card like somewhat recently, and so I put
Speaker 8: it back in the deck and then I shoveled again
Speaker 8: and it like hit my my hand hit the deck,
Speaker 8: and that card popped out again. And so that's the
Speaker 8: only reason when I was like, all right, we're going
Speaker 8: for it.
Speaker 3: All right, well, and I always like to pull out
Speaker 3: my trustee guided Tarot book for all of the uh
Speaker 3: the descriptions you know why.
Speaker 6: You pulled that. But let's just I want to hear it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's the fame and the being in the
Speaker 7: public eye. Success that and but I want to hear yeah, success,
Speaker 7: that's we're in. We're having a podcast right now. And
Speaker 7: I believe that this episode is going to put oh
Speaker 7: wasn't like it's going to do very well, and that
Speaker 7: we're it's sort of shining a light not on. And
Speaker 7: that's not from a like you know, uh, I don't
Speaker 7: say self congratulatory place. It's more of just like this
Speaker 7: is like a shining moment. This is for for us
Speaker 7: to get this like word out here. And I think
Speaker 7: this episode is going to do really great things for
Speaker 7: all of us that are here today in terms of
Speaker 7: like being seen, recognized, and also being able to be
Speaker 7: of service to people, because even though it's just something
Speaker 7: we geek out on, it does help people. So it
Speaker 7: does feel like we're in alignment with putting the word
Speaker 7: out there that this isn't real and inspiring people.
Speaker 6: Because so that's kind of how I feel.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, there's definitely some seeds being planted here,
Speaker 3: there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 8: It definitely shed some light on my reality. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: I know, definitely that's happening. But you know, I know
Speaker 8: people listening, you know, probably didn't feel what I felt,
Speaker 8: you know, but just from what I felt during that
Speaker 8: was just I cannot I can never say that all
Speaker 8: of this is just not real.
Speaker 3: Dude. I'm I'm not even jealous that that wasn't about me,
Speaker 3: Like I was so happy to hear it about you know.
Speaker 3: It was the best just because I knew Bob. I
Speaker 3: obviously I love you and you know, your entire family
Speaker 3: and everything, and I knew like the whole scar on
Speaker 3: the chest thing that's that was.
Speaker 7: So and I know you're going to read, but I
Speaker 7: was going to say that spirit when I do group readings,
Speaker 7: because I do them on zoom so that people can
Speaker 7: afford them. So I'll stay tuned for that. If you
Speaker 7: want to follow me on Instagram, it's real magic Shannon.
Speaker 7: And that way I can give readings for less money,
Speaker 7: like minor ninety minute readings, because I like to geek
Speaker 7: out forever. I mean it's and I do them for
Speaker 7: one hundred and fifty dollars. But sometimes I'll put together
Speaker 7: like a platform where that way you can pay less.
Speaker 7: So I'll do a group reading and everyone if it's
Speaker 7: a small group, everyone will get a reading. So it's
Speaker 7: but it's shorter, but at least then it's like you
Speaker 7: can of maybe you'll get the message you need and
Speaker 7: you don't have to pay the one hundred and fifty
Speaker 7: if that's out of your budget.
Speaker 6: I try to make it less.
Speaker 3: Oh of course. And and like the thing is is
Speaker 3: with a lot of psychic kind of intuitive readings and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. Even like with me with past live aggressions,
Speaker 3: I've had people that say you should be doing those
Speaker 3: for free. I'm like, yeah, this takes hours out of
Speaker 3: my day and not only that meant to learn. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there was the thousands of dollars taking the classes and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. But then it's also like, you know,
Speaker 3: it's an energetic thing that is going on, you know,
Speaker 3: and you feel drained afterward. You feel excited about what
Speaker 3: just transpired and stuff like that, but you feel like
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to go like run after that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 7: Okay, the next day, I am exhausted, but it's like
Speaker 7: I'm happy to do it, but I the next day,
Speaker 7: I'm always like, god, I'm so tired, but I love it,
Speaker 7: so it.
Speaker 6: Would I don't want anyone to even focus on.
Speaker 3: It's just like, yes, for sure, for sure. So the
Speaker 3: six of Wands, your hard work is being rewarded. Revel
Speaker 3: in this victorious moment, surrounded by those who support you.
Speaker 3: After struggling your way through a period of competition and opposition,
Speaker 3: you emerge victoriously in the six of Wand's card. On
Speaker 3: this card, we see a young man on a white horse,
Speaker 3: symbolizing purity, riding through a cheering crowd raising their five
Speaker 3: wands in his honor. The rider raises his six wand
Speaker 3: higher than the rest, and both he and the wand
Speaker 3: are adorned with laurel reads, symbolic of victory. The five
Speaker 3: others in the crowd around him are reminiscent of the
Speaker 3: five young men fighting in the Five of Want's card,
Speaker 3: but this time they're gathering to acknowledge the victor with
Speaker 3: their support. Interesting.
Speaker 7: I also want to share that last night I pulled
Speaker 7: a card that was the card I pulled really poor bet.
Speaker 7: That was the last card that I pulled in the
Speaker 7: last twenty four hours. Was that same card. And yet
Speaker 7: it's for every single one of you. It's for Taylor, Luisa,
Speaker 7: all these people. It's going to mean something different to Kyle,
Speaker 7: you know, it's like going to mean something to each
Speaker 7: of you differently. But I know what it meant for me,
Speaker 7: and I know what it meant kind of for you.
Speaker 7: But I also know that each one of you will
Speaker 7: be like, I know what that's about.
Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, yeah, it's it's definitely matching up. And
Speaker 3: as a matter of fact, like I said, I did
Speaker 3: a terror reading for myself last night and I ended
Speaker 3: up getting the five of Wands and the nine of Wands.
Speaker 3: So I was like, oh, that's strange. Two wands right
Speaker 3: there and then the third one right here. It's interesting.
Speaker 3: But the personal message says you are leveling or the
Speaker 3: spiritual message. Rather, you are leveling up in all areas
Speaker 3: of life and join your success and being recognized for
Speaker 3: the wonderful work that you do. Good news is coming
Speaker 3: to you related to your home or personal life. You're
Speaker 3: feeling ready to take on a leadership role within your
Speaker 3: community or special interest group as well. Yep, okay, I
Speaker 3: dig it. That is a solid reading.
Speaker 6: It's so resonant, you guys.
Speaker 8: You know it's funny because I was gonna put that
Speaker 8: back and go, you know what, I'll pull it during
Speaker 8: the show, you know, But then I continued to shuffle
Speaker 8: and it popped out again, so I was like, Okay,
Speaker 8: well then I guess it just it just needs to happen,
Speaker 8: you know. It's one of those divine things that.
Speaker 3: Just, oh dude, I couldn't question well. And the thing
Speaker 3: is is that we exist in the realm of time
Speaker 3: where these things don't. So even though you pulled it beforehand,
Speaker 3: you know, the messages that are coming through exist outside
Speaker 3: of time, So it wouldn't have mattered if you'd have
Speaker 3: pulled it in the beginning, the middle of the end.
Speaker 3: You know, you would have pulled it at midnight or whatever. Tonight,
Speaker 3: it wouldn't have mattered, you know kind of thing.
Speaker 8: I think, yeahmen, yeahmen, this was this was great.
Speaker 7: Yes, you guys are my new best friend and I
Speaker 7: we're going to schedule a time to do podcasts. But
Speaker 7: I also felt like when you pulled that card, I
Speaker 7: was like, I just feel like we're such a good
Speaker 7: this we were such a good team. So thank you
Speaker 7: for inviting me and everyone who's here. It's so cool
Speaker 7: to have a group that group energy there which I
Speaker 7: want to learn how to how you do this so
Speaker 7: I can do it on my show too. Like it's
Speaker 7: so nice to have have people part of the part
Speaker 7: of the chat.
Speaker 3: Now they and I feel like all of the one
Speaker 3: out there. You know, we we do We only do
Speaker 3: two episodes a week now. We used to do three
Speaker 3: at there was a certain point in time where we
Speaker 3: were doing five. It was getting crazy, but we we've
Speaker 3: decided that two a week is perfect. So one of
Speaker 3: those two shoes. Two shows every week is always going
Speaker 3: to be a wonder. Wednesday is what we call the
Speaker 3: live shows every Wednesday night at nine pm Central, and
Speaker 3: it's always so magical because we feel like everybody that
Speaker 3: is involved in the conversation is only amplifying the energy
Speaker 3: that is transpiring around us. And so that's why you know,
Speaker 3: we whenever we have certain guests on, or maybe we
Speaker 3: just bring up a top topic or something like that,
Speaker 3: you can just feel that there's so much more going
Speaker 3: on than just the words on the screen that we're reading. Right, Yep, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's awesome.
Speaker 6: It's it's so cool.
Speaker 8: You guys want to hear something cool. I don't know
Speaker 8: if you're aware of the Shannon, but we had the
Speaker 8: same guest during it was a near death experiencer, David
Speaker 8: Ditchfield shot, Oh, he's fantastic. Yeah, he was going through
Speaker 8: your shows. I was like, no way, of course she.
Speaker 3: Had him on there, dude. The Waterfall of Stars unbelievable. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the Waterfall of Stars was insane.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 7: I mean, just if you guys don't haven't watched David
Speaker 7: Ditchfield on, watch this their episode, and I encourage you
Speaker 7: to watch mine. He's it's incredible. He was killed momentarily
Speaker 7: by a train, who's run over by a train in
Speaker 7: a in a in the station, like underneath the train,
Speaker 7: and came out with these abilities of painting like what
Speaker 7: he saw on the other side. And composing and composed
Speaker 7: like and it was featured in I don't know what,
Speaker 7: it was, some big thing in London where they like
Speaker 7: featured his He didn't write music before, but he just
Speaker 7: like composed this whole big decide. He wanted to replicate
Speaker 7: the sounds and getting chills, but he was hearing on
Speaker 7: the other side and it was like like all kind
Speaker 7: of got channeled through him. And so he has these
Speaker 7: paintings and this music and.
Speaker 6: A lovely guy.
Speaker 7: Yeah he lost, Yeah, he he was pretty badly mangled,
Speaker 7: but now he's like doing all this great work and
Speaker 7: he's just such a lovely person. I planned to go
Speaker 7: to the Arthur Finley School in London one day, which
Speaker 7: is the what we call it Hogwarts. Hogwarts, I say,
Speaker 7: and we've discussed, Yeah, I have a bunch of near
Speaker 7: death experiencers out there that I want to him included
Speaker 7: get together with.
Speaker 3: So yes that we we can't get enough of the
Speaker 3: near death experience kind of stuff. Like we literally we
Speaker 3: do an episode on nd r F dot org every
Speaker 3: like just basically every month at least, And it's just
Speaker 3: basically a website that compiles everybody that submits their near
Speaker 3: death experience and you just read through them and every
Speaker 3: single time you are just so intensely engaged in the
Speaker 3: story because of the description is such in such amazing detail.
Speaker 8: And the amazing thing too, is the things that resonate,
Speaker 8: Like neither of us have had a near death experience.
Speaker 8: Why is this information resonating with me? Like, Oh, that
Speaker 8: sounds right, that sounds true.
Speaker 7: I want to encourage everyone to go to the International
Speaker 7: Association for Near Death Studies ian's conference.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I went last year for the first time because it
Speaker 7: was in Arizona. It was in Phoenix, I know, and
Speaker 7: it was so easy because I lived there at the time,
Speaker 7: and it was the most incredible experience. My abilities skyrocketed
Speaker 7: after being around all of these people that I already
Speaker 7: knew but hadn't met in person. And trying to go
Speaker 7: this year, I don't know if I'll be able to financially.
Speaker 7: They're having me do readings in the healing area, like
Speaker 7: for volunteer work, so that's what they're asking me to do.
Speaker 7: And I'm just going to manifest that I can gather
Speaker 7: up the funds to go because it was such an
Speaker 7: incredible experience.
Speaker 3: You're already there, girl, and you guys should and that'll
Speaker 3: be in that'll be in Phoenix again.
Speaker 6: No, this year, it's in Chicago. Every year it's in
Speaker 6: a different place.
Speaker 3: So shy.
Speaker 7: So it was in a's at this place that used
Speaker 7: to be a Native American. I forget what it's called
Speaker 7: that horse something horse run, but it was incredible resort
Speaker 7: that we were at. And then also just the magic
Speaker 7: of all these people whose vibrations are so high. I
Speaker 7: started walking around going, your grandma's here, your dad's here,
Speaker 7: and I was like, this is insane. It's because if,
Speaker 7: like you said, if everybody's energy is expanded when I
Speaker 7: meet with other mediums, suddenly they're dead.
Speaker 6: People are talking to me. So definitely go to that.
Speaker 6: And you don't have yeah, and you don't have to
Speaker 6: be a near death experience or to go.
Speaker 5: You just go.
Speaker 3: Well, look, I mean, we definitely would love yet to
Speaker 3: have you back on the show. We would love to
Speaker 3: go onto your show as well. And I can imagine
Speaker 3: us meeting up at some point to go to some
Speaker 3: awesome convention or something like that. Like I'm all about
Speaker 3: like those kind of things I want to start getting
Speaker 3: into going to I have another podcast. It's a conspiracy podcast,
Speaker 3: but all the conspiracy conventions, all of the spiritual psychic
Speaker 3: kind of conventions, all that kind of stuff. So that's
Speaker 3: going to be happening for sure, and I'm trying to
Speaker 3: manifest it with this beautiful AI picture that was created.
Speaker 7: I have a conspiracy theory thing to tell you later
Speaker 7: off off camera.
Speaker 3: So yeah, all right, so good.
Speaker 8: Let's let the the one know where they can find
Speaker 8: you your podcast and such.
Speaker 7: Thank you so much. I am found. I'm found on
Speaker 7: YouTube and wherever you get your podcasts. It is called
Speaker 7: Magic is Real. You can just look up Magic is
Speaker 7: Real podcast Shannon. I think it's Magic is Real one
Speaker 7: one one on YouTube. But I'm I'm on Instagram at
Speaker 7: real Magic Shannon and Shantorp. But that it just looked
Speaker 7: me up there and my email address. I'm just saying
Speaker 7: this for if anyone wants to who is watching this
Speaker 7: pre recorded it's Magic is Real Shannon at gmail dot com.
Speaker 7: I don't if I stopped using my website, it just
Speaker 7: doesn't work that great. I just would rather have you
Speaker 7: just reach out directly and follow me on the Instagram.
Speaker 7: So thank you so much. And it's I have two podcasts, uh.
Speaker 7: One is called Magic is Real and then one is
Speaker 7: called still Standing, which I'll be sort of advertising on
Speaker 7: Real Magic, Shannon, I mean awesome. Yeah, so thank you
Speaker 7: so much. I really appreciate you all being here and
Speaker 7: lending your gorgeous energy to Thank.
Speaker 3: You so much, day Coron.
Speaker 8: No doubt in my mind that this episode was destined
Speaker 8: to happen.
Speaker 7: I know it was, and I can tell you more
Speaker 7: about that because it was the timing of it. And yeah,
Speaker 7: it's really weird, it's really actually kind of crazy.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, look, we typically like to do a meditation
Speaker 3: towards the end of every single show, and then we
Speaker 3: reconvene a little bit afterwards. Usually the meditations are like
Speaker 3: ten fifteen minutes something like that, and then you know,
Speaker 3: we compare notes like oh what happened to you here?
Speaker 3: And you know, it's really fun and I do feel
Speaker 3: like they're majorly amplified whenever everybody's joining us here. I
Speaker 3: did want to tell everybody though, that if you're wanting
Speaker 3: to join us on the meditative part, the only place
Speaker 3: to do that is going to be at Patreon. And
Speaker 3: for anybody that doesn't know, we recently just switched our
Speaker 3: audio feed. Our podcast feed is now only being posted
Speaker 3: on the Cult of Conspiracy Podcast every Monday and Friday,
Speaker 3: So if you're only listening to the audio, you have
Speaker 3: to go to the Cult of Conspiracy Podcast. You'll see
Speaker 3: us pop up over there Monday and Friday. And we've
Speaker 3: been doing that for close to a month now, I think,
Speaker 3: and yeah, it's been it's been a big help. We've
Speaker 3: been getting a lot more listens and a lot more
Speaker 3: people are reaching out. It's it's been a very helpful thing.
Speaker 3: So yeah, if you want to check that out. Also,
Speaker 3: we do have a YouTube. You can come check us
Speaker 3: out at YouTube dot com slash Meta Mysteries, and that
Speaker 3: link is obviously going to be down in the show
Speaker 3: notes below. We just recently created it about a month
Speaker 3: ago whenever we decided to switch over to the colt
Speaker 3: And so if you want to be able to watch
Speaker 3: the shows or you want to have maybe less commercials,
Speaker 3: I don't know if YouTube has less commercials than the podcast,
Speaker 3: but yeah, that those are going to be getting posted
Speaker 3: on the same day, so you can go check that out. However,
Speaker 3: the best way to be able to support us is
Speaker 3: to come to Patreon dot com slash Meta Mysteries. That
Speaker 3: link is also down in the show notes below you get.
Speaker 3: There are several different tiers, but if you want to
Speaker 3: join us every Wednesday night for these live shows, you
Speaker 3: sign up for the Wonder Weizday tier. That's eight dollars
Speaker 3: and eighty eight cents. Otherwise, we do have other tiers
Speaker 3: as well, so you wouldn't necessarily be able to join
Speaker 3: every Wednesday night. But maybe that's not your flavor. Maybe
Speaker 3: you just want to be able to get the shows
Speaker 3: a couple of days in advance. You want to be
Speaker 3: able to listen to it completely commercial free, you want
Speaker 3: to be able to slide into our dms. That is
Speaker 3: the best place to support us. So I just wanted
Speaker 3: to give a shout out to all the one out
Speaker 3: there that have been helping us build that baby up.
Speaker 3: And we're just trying to We're just trying to open
Speaker 3: up third Eyes all the way around the world. That's
Speaker 3: just the goal. It's been the goal since day one.
Speaker 8: That's just so we do. And Shannon, thank you again
Speaker 8: for I know we're going to get into the meditation
Speaker 8: if you are willing to join us, but thank you
Speaker 8: again for coming on tonight and we will definitely join
Speaker 8: you on your find.
Speaker 7: Yes, I can't wait that you guys are so my people.
Speaker 7: Thank you and thank you everyone for sending you all
Speaker 7: so much love.
Speaker 6: And hugs from my heart to yours.
Speaker 3: Yes, meda of course, of course. All right, well look,
Speaker 3: if you want to join us in the meditation on Patreon,
Speaker 3: then feel free to hang by. But if not, then
Speaker 3: this is where we leave you. And what we like
Speaker 3: to say is if Shannon Towards came here and she
Speaker 3: taught you anything, it's that you don't know what you
Speaker 3: don't know, So I'll just get weird, stay.
Speaker 10: Weird, shadows dance through the whispering world, said nice air too,
Speaker 10: mysteries everywhere?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 3: That was that? I feel like that went really fast?
Speaker 3: Am I?
Speaker 7: Am?
Speaker 3: I the only one with that? Time is an illusion?
Speaker 3: My dude?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Oh man, yeah, I started sweating, like even my arms
Speaker 8: are sweating, it's sweat dripping off my eyebrows.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I got really hot in that, which is.
Speaker 7: It must be a man thing. Do you guys get
Speaker 7: like that undulating feeling? Because I start to feel like
Speaker 7: I'm going like.
Speaker 3: This, Yeah, I get that in that one.
Speaker 8: Actually yeah, only for a moment, like it was only
Speaker 8: like a second or two, and I was like, oh
Speaker 8: that was weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like the Cundalini thing, isn't it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would have an out of body such a
Speaker 7: thing happened, but it didn't happen.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it was only like ten and a
Speaker 3: half minutes, but I thought it was It was interesting
Speaker 3: because it was you know, it was getting there a
Speaker 3: little bit towards the end, and I have, you know,
Speaker 3: ideas about the direction I'd like my life to move
Speaker 3: forward with right and and I was like, all right,
Speaker 3: is this just me wanting it or you know how
Speaker 3: she said, you know, ask see if it aligns with
Speaker 3: the higher self? Dude, same thing. Like what I wanted
Speaker 3: was a higher self kind of thing. Did you guys
Speaker 3: did you feel that way too?
Speaker 10: Sean?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Uh so I asked myself what I want, you know,
Speaker 8: and really I just would like to help people and
Speaker 8: assist and just kind of just be what I can
Speaker 8: for people, you know, Like that's pretty much what I want,
Speaker 8: you know, And that's been something that's been kind of
Speaker 8: for me for a long time, you know, Like I
Speaker 8: wasn't sure if I wanted to become like an EMT
Speaker 8: or someone really out there physically helping people or a
Speaker 8: police officer. But then I was like, I'm too nice,
Speaker 8: you know. It's like, oh, it's just a little bit
Speaker 8: of weed, don't worry about it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8: Like I wouldn't be able to off now just shrooms,
Speaker 8: don't even trip, you know what I mean. But yeah, So,
Speaker 8: like when I asked myself what I wanted, it was like, oh,
Speaker 8: just to help people, you know, And sometimes that can
Speaker 8: be hard, you know, when you're dealing with your own shit.
Speaker 8: You got your own ego going and everything else, and
Speaker 8: you got to stop and remind yourself that this person
Speaker 8: is at a different level or or having their own journey,
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. So then they might not
Speaker 8: understand things the way you understand them in likewise, you know.
Speaker 8: And so but yeah, just to be able to help
Speaker 8: people in any way that I can, really, you know.
Speaker 8: And then I asked my higher self and it was like, yeah,
Speaker 8: pretty much, that's what it is.
Speaker 3: You already know, you gotta do.
Speaker 8: You already know what it is?
Speaker 3: What'd you experience there? Stand and anything? Wild?
Speaker 6: Nothing I didn't know. But all of this is so
Speaker 6: in alignment, you know. I went along like.
Speaker 7: A couple months with no mediumship readings, and I and
Speaker 7: I wasn't podcasting as much because I had other things
Speaker 7: to do, and I and I just like pray, kind
Speaker 7: of not prayed whatever, yeah, kind of did pray, and
Speaker 7: I just said, I really want to be doing more
Speaker 7: of the spiritual stuff, and I just I, please bring
Speaker 7: me the people that need me, and similar to you know,
Speaker 7: but being of service that Sean was touching on. And
Speaker 7: then literally like the next day, I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 7: I'm going to just post something on TikTok, which I
Speaker 7: hardly I don't use TikTok very often. And then I
Speaker 7: went on there and saw that you'd you'd reached out
Speaker 7: to me, and I was like, And then I saw
Speaker 7: someone else there saying, hey, how do I get a reading?
Speaker 7: And I'm like, oh, they're actually people like I don't
Speaker 7: use TikTok, I won't check my messages very often, but
Speaker 7: I checked it at the when I normally don't, and
Speaker 7: so I asked. And then that week I got five
Speaker 7: bookings out of nowhere, and they were all repeats, but
Speaker 7: everyone's like, I want to reading. All of a sudden,
Speaker 7: everyone wanted one at the same time again, even before
Speaker 7: I posted. And then suddenly it's like this is ramping
Speaker 7: up and that. Then the sixth of Wand's card was like,
Speaker 7: that's what this is. So I said, basically, it's like
Speaker 7: I want to be Yes, a voiceover actor, but I
Speaker 7: really just want to be this, to be what I do,
Speaker 7: all of it, the book I'm writing, the podcasting, the
Speaker 7: talking about it, the teaching, the connecting with spirit for people.
Speaker 7: And then funny enough and sure enough, my higher self
Speaker 7: had the same idea. So I really appreciated that was yeah,
Speaker 7: and I felt the undulating of the spirit inside the body,
Speaker 7: which is really cool.
Speaker 3: That's funny that you said you want to write a
Speaker 3: book or you're in the middle of writing.
Speaker 6: I'm in the middle. It's halfway through.
Speaker 7: That's that's my book really about recovery from sex and
Speaker 7: love addiction and helping people to find self love and
Speaker 7: healing from all addiction, but specifically that. But then I'm
Speaker 7: also starting another spiritual book, so because I realized I
Speaker 7: should keep them separate because some people might not resonate
Speaker 7: with the spirit stuff, but it's help. But I want
Speaker 7: to help people to overcome addiction because I have. I mean,
Speaker 7: I'm you know, whatever, Once an addict, always an addict.
Speaker 7: Fun but I mean if you could see you know,
Speaker 7: there's just this feeling of like, if I can do it,
Speaker 7: you can do it, because I used to be just
Speaker 7: a hot mess.
Speaker 6: And didn't want to be here anymore.
Speaker 7: And now my life is like amazing and so full
Speaker 7: of joy and peace, and I'm like I never thought
Speaker 7: I would get here. So I want other people who
Speaker 7: are dealing with addiction to know that you're it's not
Speaker 7: just you're not alone, like you.
Speaker 6: Can do it. If I can do it, you can
Speaker 6: do it.
Speaker 7: My sex and love addiction therapist told me, you're one
Speaker 7: of the sickest people I've ever treated, and you need
Speaker 7: to go to the rehab and ask your dad for
Speaker 7: thirty thousand dollars something.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not going to tell him I'm a sex
Speaker 6: addict and that I need thirty thousand dollars.
Speaker 7: So I did it through spirituality in twelve step and
Speaker 7: so I'm like, if you could see where I was
Speaker 7: and where I am now, I just want to help
Speaker 7: people like you.
Speaker 3: Sean need to send me to that rehab. Baby head.
Speaker 8: He's got it bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, it's funny though, because you were talking about writing
Speaker 3: a book. I'm I actually out of nowhere. One night
Speaker 3: it was like three o'clock in the morning I got
Speaker 3: I was really high, and sometimes whenever I get too high,
Speaker 3: I'm just like channel and something oho, and it's like
Speaker 3: super like it's it's almost like more than a nud
Speaker 3: just like a shove, like write this shit down before
Speaker 3: you forget. And and so I just opened the notes
Speaker 3: app on my phone and I started writing it, and
Speaker 3: I was like, holy shit, Like I thought that I
Speaker 3: was just gonna write down like a phrase or something
Speaker 3: that I would, you know, talk about on the show
Speaker 3: or something like that. Next thing, I know, I got
Speaker 3: six chapters written. I'm like, oh, like four in the morning.
Speaker 3: It's like just yeah, yeah, and oh, there was definitely
Speaker 3: something going on. And so the idea is is that
Speaker 3: I kind of like I want to be able to
Speaker 3: dive deeper. I had a DMT experience where I experienced
Speaker 3: the void and it was fucking horrifying, but all the
Speaker 3: beautiful things that came from that kind of thing, and
Speaker 3: I actually I that night I thought, you know what's funny,
Speaker 3: we should I should call it the cameraman. And because
Speaker 3: whenever you're in the void, it feels like you're alone.
Speaker 3: But if you're alone and nothing exists, then what's observing that?
Speaker 3: And it's almost like the cameraman, you know, it's like
Speaker 3: the whole idea about like what was it the the
Speaker 3: Moon mission, right but back in the sixties allegedly if
Speaker 3: you believe that bullshit. But if you if you think
Speaker 3: that that they did land on the Moon, then you
Speaker 3: would also have to believe that the cameraman was there first,
Speaker 3: you know, like something. And so yeah, yeah, so I
Speaker 3: kind of just wanted to get into like, you know,
Speaker 3: awareness and there's no such thing as nothing, and that
Speaker 3: even in even in nothing, it's just limitless potential kind
Speaker 3: of stuff. And I was just going super like, I'm
Speaker 3: sure if I went back and read it right now,
Speaker 3: I'd be like that ain't even me dude, you know,
Speaker 3: like that ship is not I don't know where that
Speaker 3: comes from.
Speaker 8: But that's something we all need, you know.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, for sure, I'm gonna have to and
Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna have a lot more time coming up.
Speaker 3: So that's that's all I got to say about that.
Speaker 3: But anyway, so all right, anybody, uh Kara actually said
Speaker 3: wild same here. It was a one word answer to
Speaker 3: just begin and it was the it was the same
Speaker 3: response for me and my higher self just begin Oh
Speaker 3: I love that. Oh there you go, get moving. That's awesome.
Speaker 3: All right, well, I guess we'll we'll leave it right there.
Speaker 3: And uh, for anybody that like, like I said, anybody
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Speaker 3: thank you guys for joining us. This was an awesome conversation. Channon.
Speaker 3: You are phenomenal awesome.
Speaker 7: Like you're I just I told my roommate in between,
Speaker 7: I'm like new best friends.
Speaker 6: Absolutely so glad to meet you.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, go best friend. That's my best friend all day.
Speaker 6: So fun we will happen.
Speaker 7: I'll visit you in Fiena, Sean when I'm out because
Speaker 7: I'll be still going back and forth to Prescott.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, if you're in the Arizona area, because I hoping
Speaker 7: produce the Pure Imagination Music Festival.
Speaker 8: So that sounds like that sounds perfect, That sounds like
Speaker 8: it's for Jonathan. I don't know if you could hear
Speaker 8: us when we were talking about that earlier. But yeah,
Speaker 8: the Pure Imagination Music Festival, he told her that that
Speaker 8: was and.
Speaker 6: We have the English beat matas Yahoo, Gone Gone Beyond.
Speaker 6: It's a fun time.
Speaker 3: Wow, that is so sick. All right, Well, look we're
Speaker 3: going to talk to you a little bit after the show.
Speaker 3: And yeah, everybody, it was nice hanging out with you.
Speaker 3: Can't wait to see you again next Wednesday. We love you.
Speaker 3: We'll see you on the flip side.
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