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How easy is that, free information, free product. It can't

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beat it. So over the last couple of weeks, we've

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been talking about skin problems and we were talking about

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how weird it is that dogs and cats that have allergies,

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even inhale the allergies and it's like we have hay fever,

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don't necessarily have respiratory signs like we do. They don't

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get that scratchy throat, they don't sneeze, they don't get

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their runny nose. What they do is they scratch, and

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a lot of scratching and a lot of skin problems,

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a lot of secondary infection. So what we need to

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do is help them. And one of the things I

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brought up when we were talking about food allergies, and interestingly,

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even with food allergies, are dogs and cats scratch, they

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get sores, they lose hair, they get scabs, they are

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just so uncomfortable. Here's how to help some of the issues.

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And what we're going to do is we're going to

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talk about some of the problems that we see when

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we have our pets that are presenting with, say vomiting.

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So let's talk about for the first time, let's talk

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about vomiting at a problem. And the question is when

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should you worry? When is vomiting a major concern? When

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is vomiting not such a bad concern? And what can

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we do? How do we tell having a problem or

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not having a problem. So here's some guidelines. The first

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thing I like to do when I hear that pet

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is having any kind of gastro intestinal upset, is I

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like to and I'll ask the owner I'll see for myself,

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is how does this pet look? Is this pet look

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like he's sick? Because if he's not looking like he's sick,

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then I'm probably not going to worry that much. I'll

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squat on to know how frequently is the pet vomiting

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and what's coming up? Is it just flynn, is it

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bio or is it food? And if it's food, how

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soon after eating is the pet vomiting. Is it happening immediately,

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is it happening several hours later? So these are all

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the question of me asked. I'm also going to want

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to know if your pet vomits, does he go right

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back to his food and ready to eat some more.

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That's also very important. Obviously, a dog or cat who's

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just ready to run back to the food boat and

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eat again, obviously, isn't that sick? Because if they were,

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they'd be really feeling lousy and they'll see it, we

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would see it, and just how they behave after or

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during the vomiting episode. So the first question I'm gonna

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ask is what brought on the vomiting? Did it come

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on sort of like an insidious slow onset, or did

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it happen immediately after or soon after they got into

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something that you know they shouldn't have gotten into. I mean,

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you know, a dog goes out and eats grass for

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whatever reason. And it's a good question because we always ask,

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you know, people always asking, and I even want to know.

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Do dogs eat grass because they know it's going to

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make them vomit? Do they eat grass because they like it?

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It's soothing? It's sweet, it's moist, not realizing that twenty

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minutes to a half hour later it might make them vomit.

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So here's sort of my guideline. And believe me, nobody

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really knows the answer to this, but the thought is

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that there is a way to get a dog to

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not eat something. We call it a version therapy. What

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do we do? We put something in that which they

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are eating to make them vomit immediately. Dogs don't really

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love to vomit. So what will happen is if they

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eat something that makes them vomit immediately, most likely they

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will avoid that product again. So they become a verse.

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They become and it's got an avoidance therapy. So we

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develop an aversion to that product, that active ingredient, that food,

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whatever it is they're eating, to want them to keep

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them away from it. If, however, the vomiting episode happens

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long after twenty minutes half hour after the ingestion, if

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they liked that which they ate, they will go after

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it again even though it made some vomit. But it

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makes some vomit, they don't. They don't make the connection anymore.

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It happened too long ago, and I think that's what

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it is with grass. I think most dogs eat grass

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don't vomit immediately. It's a delayed episode. But they like

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the taste, they like the sweetness, they like the moisture.

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It may even soothe their stomach initially, so they go

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after it again and again. What they don't realize is that, yep,

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twenty minutes thirty minutes later, they're going to vomit, and

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therefore they will keep going after it. And I see

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some dogs, even my own sometimes that will just literally

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run when it gets outside. For whatever reason, they run

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after the grass and they start munching it as fast

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as they can. So that's one issue that can cause vomiting.

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Certainly getting a hold of overreading what they call e

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gorging themselves, that can cause vomiting. Eating something bad, eating

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something that's an irritant to gastric irritant can cause vomiting.

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But so those are the direct causes of vomiting, and

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I am less concerned about those than I am the

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vomiting that's coming from some other organ dysfunction. Now, usually

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when we have a dog in liver failure or de

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liver disease, if we have a dog with kidney disease

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or kidney failure, they most likely will vomit because as

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those enzymes elevate, we are going to see one of

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the side effects, if you will, is going to be vomiting.

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So now we have a metabolic source of vomiting. It's

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not just because they eat something that they weren't supposed

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to eat. The episodes you're coming from the fact that

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they are in fact being poisoned, if you will, buy

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the build up of byproducts of enzymes because of the

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organ dysfunction. So these are the dogs that are the

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vomiting episodes. Or first of all, they sometimes come on insidiously.

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You can't necessarily link it to that which they may

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or may not have eaten, because there's nothing in the

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history that would help you. And more importantly, they usually

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don't And if you really think about, they haven't been

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feeling good. They have not been feeling up to par.

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So these are the dogs that are totally may not

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even want to eat. So you say to yourself, wait

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a second, the dog's not eating, how are they vomiting?

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What are they vomiting? Their vomiting bile, the vomiting phlam.

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If you in a case of a dog that maybe

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ate something too fatty and has what's called pancreatitis. Pancreatitis

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is an inflamed pancreas by definition that usually happens when

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they eat really high fatty foods, and once that pancreas

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becomes inflamed, they are very inclined to continue to vomit.

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And the problem is these dogs are usually again you

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never say never, you never say always, but these dogs

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are usually really sick. Their abdomens are very tender to

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the touch, so you're better. An erring will want to

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absolutely see the dog, and if they feel the belly,

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they actually palpate the abdomen, they'll see and they'll realize

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a very tense, painful, tender abdomen. So this too can

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be a problem. And these are the dogs that definitely

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are going to require some sort of follow up, some

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sort of laboratory work, some sort of diagnostics to try

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to evaluate why is this dog vomiting. Likewise, if a

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dog who has a tender abdomen may be somewhat of

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a bloated appearance to the belly and is vomiting soon

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after well not soon aftering, you use them when they

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vomit immediately and they don't even go through the heaving episodes,

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what we call the upchucking. They are mostly regurgitating. When

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I see that with regularity, I'm going to think about

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something that might be launched in the esophagus, which is

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the tube that coming from the mouth into the stomach,

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and that's called regurgitation. We don't have that heaving first.

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It's just almost like it's like it's instant. They eat something,

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they open their mouth, and out of that's regurgitation. That

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usually means some sort of problem up in the store

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we called the cardiac portion of the stomach. I had

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one of these cases years ago when one of those

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cheol of bones got lodged into the esophagus and this

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dog actually had you could see it on the X ray.

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Nothing can get past this thing. We had to go

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in and we couldn't even remove the bone fragment, the

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piece of bone that was stuck. So we ended up

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having to do is push it into the stomach and

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then we had to do surgery to get it out

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of the stomach. Esophageal surgery is something you do not

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ever want to try. You can lead to aesophageal constriction

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and it could be something that's much much more dangerous,

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where a stomach surgery is something that's much easier on

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the pet. But when you have this dog that is

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going to vomit several hours or even within an hour later,

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now you have to think of the same thing. There

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may be a blockage somewhere, but that blockage may be

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lowered down in the gi tracked somewhere in the intestine.

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It's used even out of the stommach. So whatever it

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was successfully got it to the stomach, successfully started passing

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through the intestine, but then lodge somewhere else. In some

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areas where the intestine gets very thin, one is called

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the ilio scout colic junction. So a lot of products

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can get up to that point and then all of

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a sudden get lodged after that point, And that too

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presents a problem because then the question is diagnostically, where

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do we go from here? But of course that is

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something that you may need to see your veterinary and

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once we get into the diagnosis, if we will, then

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we can talk about the different possibilities of how to

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help these things. So before we go on our break,

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just to recap quickly, the important things are to determine

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how your dog is acting or your cat is acting.

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And let's talk cats for a second, because cats vomit frequently,

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and they often can vomit hairballs. But what's interesting about

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a cat, and this is what people don't realize because

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they'll call me, cat's acting fine, but it's vomiting. But

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what's coming up is just some phlegm. I might bring

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up the point of hairball and they no, no, no, can't

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be hairballs because there was no I didn't see the hairball.

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And to that, I say this that in a cat

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vomits hairballs, if you're lucky, and if the hairball was

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in the stomach itself, then yes, that clump will come up,

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but it looks kind of tubular, and that's because it

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has to go back from the stomach into the esophagus,

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and the esophagus sort of brings it up then causes

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a tube effect. But the key is that it doesn't

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necessarily have to have the appearance of a tube, and

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it doesn't even have to have a hair in it

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to be caused by hairballs. And I'll explain why in

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just a few minutes when we get back from our break.

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Once again, you're listening to doctor Jeff Werber here at

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Jeff and let's see if we can help you with

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some of your questions about your pets. Lovely subject for vomiting.

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So before the break, we were talking about the lovely

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subject because I mentioned a vomiting and when to worry.

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When is vomiting something you can sit and wait on

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for a couple of days. When is vomiting something that

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you need to have a mediate attention. And before the break,

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we were just touching on the subject of hair balls

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and cats and why is it that oftentimes a cat

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can have hairball vomiting and you won't see hairball. And

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here's the reason for that. When the actual clump of

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the hair is in the stomach and the cat vomits,

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most likely that crop of hair will come up. Think

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of you as a sink with you know, the drain

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going below the sink in that sort of s curve.

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Once the play that is causing the sink to fill

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up makes it out of the sink itself, oftentimes it's

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sitting right on that drain. It hasn't made it through yet,

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so as the drain fills up whatever it was, it's

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still in the sink. So if that sink overflows, the

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possibility is that this is going to overflow as well.

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Whereas what happens though when that plug makes it out

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of the actual sink and now it's somewhere in the

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piping below the sink is still filling up, it's still plugged,

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but when it empties and starts to overflow, the cause

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of the block it is no longer there. It's already

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somewhere under the sink or under the house. Even so,

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that's really basically what happens with hairballs. It is something

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that once that hairball gets out of the stomach, it's

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still going to cause the vomiting. It's still something we

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need to treat. But you won't see the hairball come up.

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How do you even know when it comes to a cat,

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the same criteria. Cats that vomit hair balls, first of all,

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usually once they relieve themselves of that hairball, they're gonna

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go straight to their food. They want to eat some more.

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They don't seem to be affected one bit from the

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hairball itself. So in that way, there's really little to

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worry about. And of course he'll prevent them very simple

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frequent brushing, a hair bol remedy, a hair bol food,

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or a hair ball treat. I mean, there's so many

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ways now to deliver air ball remedy for your cat

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thinks they love and something that should be done anyway,

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And don't kid yourself into thinking that if I have

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a short hair cat, I don't need a hairball remedy.

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That's the only cat that can avoid having hairball remedy

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would probably be the stings, maybe some of the rexes,

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because rexes don't shed often, but mostly if you have

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a cat, they groom themselves like crazy. And interestingly, the

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more allergies they have, the more likely they're going to

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groom themselves. The more hair they're going to ingest, the

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greater the likelihood of having a hair ball. So that's

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a no brainer. Just do it because it's the smart

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thing to do. So back to the dog. So if

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you have the dog, or i'd say the cat as well,

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if they seem to vomit, but they're acting totally fine,

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they are happy, they're running, they'll eat if you offer

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them more food. A couple of things to think about.

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Number one, don't give them more food right away, because,

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for whatever reason they vomited in the first place, that

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stomach now is irritated. It's kind of like taking a

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sack and ringing it out. It's just sore, it's irritated,

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it's inflamed. So anything you put into that inflamed sack

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is potentially going to come up again. So even something

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is benign is water. I can't tell you how many

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times that I get a client their pet is vomiting

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and they run to the water bowl and they gulp

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up water and they vomit again, and the owner feel

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sorry because I'm like God, they're going to get dehigrated.

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So what do I do? They give it more water,

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and they drink that water and they vomit again. Which

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you don't want to do is put anything into a

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stomach that has or has been vomiting. So what do

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you do when the dog is acting fine? And it's

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a great sign, by the way, and I tell clientsts

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all the time, the fact that they want to drink

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water is fantastic. The fact that they want to eat

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is great, But don't let them. So what to do

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is this. You will give them maybe a couple of

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ice cubes in their water bowl, so as the ice

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cubes melt, if they want to get a little bit

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of water, they can. Plus the cold water is kind

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of soothing. But they can't gulp a lot at once

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because we don't want them to. We want the stomach

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to rest. When we have a pure gastritis from some

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sort of irritant because something they ate. The last thing

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we want to do is to have that stomach continue

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the vomiting cycle. So we give them just some ice

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scoops at first, let them suck on that. Twelve hours

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later or so they've gone to the rest of the day,

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they're acting fine, they're not vomiting anymore. Maybe that evening

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you'll give them a quarter to a third of their

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regular meal if they eat that and keep that down,

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and a few hours later you give them a little

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bit more. But you don't have to feel guilty. They

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can go easily a full day twenty four hours without eating,

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and we're not even to ask you to do that.

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We're just asking you to go maybe twelve to fifteen hours,

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and when they do eat, give them a much smaller amount.

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If they continually are holding that small amount down, then

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by the next day you probably can go for it

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and give them the regular meal. But you want to

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watch them carefully, and of course you want to watch

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what they may orman out to be. Now, if you

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have a dog that continues to vomit but still is

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acting okay, this is where I ask you to search

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around your house and I'll ask do you have the

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kind of dog that will just pick things up and

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eat them. You have kids around the house that maybe

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you know, are you missing a sow, a pair of

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bontor ware. I'm been telling you what comes out of

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these dogs sometimes blows my mind. I can't tell you

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how many dogs love to go through hampers, so don't

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ask they do it. And I can't tell how many

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times I've pulled things like that out of a dog's intestine.

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So what happens is they're still feeling good because the

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stuff gets it starts passing through, but then all of

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a sudden, it hits that spot where it just lodges.

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And the problem is when we talk about the diagnostics

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that a lot of these things won't show up on

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an extrack. Now they eat something that's metallic. I had

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a dog ones that actually like to eat medallions and coins.

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They were small enough to pass. That wasn't the problem.

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The problem was there's something called copper toxicity. They can

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get some lead toxicity. So what happens is they start

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getting sick from say the copper, which it gets an anemia.

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They start getting lethargic, their gums look pale, and you

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take the and sure enough you see something there and

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mom will saying, oh, yeah, I know that. You know

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what I've seen him, you know, swallow a coin before

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or he ate his dog tad. So you know, we'll

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never figure out why they do what they do, why

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they eat what they eat. So obviously that was a

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surgical disease. So to make the diagnosis, I mean, the

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first thought is X ray because if you have something

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that's very dense, or even something that's not dense by itself,

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but when it's clumped up you might see it. Then

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you could see something on an X ray or an ultrasound.

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Then then you know, kind of depending on where it is,

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what the options are. Now with ultrasound we can sort

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of do a lot more than we used to as

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far as diagnostically when we don't know what's going on,

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but we assume a blockage. We can sometimes assume a

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blockage because there's a certain pattern we call it a

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gas pattern on X ray that usually indicates it somewhere

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along the line everything somebody to do a dead stop.

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And when that happens, then too we have to work

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to relieve that. We can do a dye study. It's

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we call it a barium study, and with barium, what

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we do is we have to beingest a dye that

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shows up on X ray. We kind of watch it

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follow through the intestinal track until it all of a

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sudden comes to a dead stop. And at that point

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you can clearly see, uh oh, something's there. Now. If

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we're lucky and something's in the stomach, it can be

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retrieved via a scope. And sometimes we're not so lucky,

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and if it has to go in your dog, your veterinarian,

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we'll have to go in surgically to remove it. If

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we have a thing pancreatitis, so let's assume that that's

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assuming we have a blockage or something physical it's causing

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the vomit. When, as an ntored earlier, the source of

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vomiting is meta power. It's because of kidney diseases, it's

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a liver disease, it's because of pancreatitis. Of course, then

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the treatment plant is totally different. This often requires hospitalization diagnostics,

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of course, and that is maybe via blood test, ultrasound,

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and or X rays. Sometimes we have to show what

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it's not just as easily as we have to show

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what it is. So a full battery test is often

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in order, especially if the dog is adr and doing right,

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is acting lethartic, is acting sick, and then so we

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go ahead and do our diagnostics and go from there.

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These animals are going to be hospitalized, These animals are

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going to need IV fluids, and we have to try

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to treat the least the underlying disease. So as you

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can see, vomiting can range anywhere from a simple thing

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that you can call your veterinarian, get the right questions answered,

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something you can give it a few days, treat at home,

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and your best gauge is just how your pet is acting,

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ranging all the way to something where there's a clear

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history of having ingested something which is going to require

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most likely some sort of intervention, whether it's going to

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be through an endoscopy or surgery, or there is seems

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to be nothing they got a hold of, but they're

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really acting sick, they're tender abdomen, they're painful, in which

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case we're looking at complete diagnostic workup and hospitalization to

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treat the underlying disease. So love to hear from you

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or at a time. A half hour goes fast. So

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once again, if you have more you'd like to ask

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about the subject, go ahead and reach me on my

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email at DRGF at petlife Radio dot com and or

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next week we're going to talk about lifting again. Their

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range is from a simple lift that came on suddenly,

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nothing to worry about giving a few days to possibly

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needing some sort of a traumatic intervention, surgery, limb amputation

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and you name it depending on the cause. So we're

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going to talk about that. So get ready. If you

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think you up a question you want to talk about

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your pets lifting, be ready next week to give us

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a call at eight seven seven three eight five eight

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eight A two or this week ahead and send me

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an email to doctor Deef pet Life Radio. I want

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same place, not to the same place, same time. I'm

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