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Listen live on the iHeartRadio app listen 22 00:01:06.799 --> 00:01:10.200 live at seven ninety Louisville dot Com a lot of 23 00:01:10.239 --> 00:01:13.359 talk about this Louisville basketball team as they continue their 24 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:15.879 winning streak last night with a dominant win ninety eight 25 00:01:15.920 --> 00:01:21.599 to seventy three over SMU. It's a performance that I 26 00:01:21.599 --> 00:01:22.920 don't know if we should have seen it come in 27 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:24.519 as far as the amount of points they scored and 28 00:01:24.560 --> 00:01:27.400 the records that were broke. Taekwondan single game record for 29 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:31.000 three pointers made in a game broke last night by 30 00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:34.280 Rain Smith, who made ten of them, and then Francisco Garcia, 31 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:37.439 which is kind of like a trivia question that would 32 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:38.640 be good because I don't think a lot of people 33 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:40.680 would guess that Cisco would be the one that has 34 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:43.920 the record, but he did sixteen assists. But he doesn't 35 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:46.200 have the record anymore because now it belongs to Chuckie Hepburn. 36 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:50.480 So this louisvill basketball team is rolling. They're playing at 37 00:01:50.480 --> 00:01:53.280 a level that I really didn't know possible a month ago, 38 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:56.079 and I know as a louis A fan, I'm not 39 00:01:56.120 --> 00:01:58.519 alone and enjoying it. So let's talk some louis of 40 00:01:58.560 --> 00:01:59.439 basketball with C. L. 41 00:01:59.519 --> 00:01:59.760 Brown. 42 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:04.079 The Courier Journal cl been a few weeks since we chatted. 43 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:06.200 Where the hell did this team come from? I mean, 44 00:02:06.239 --> 00:02:08.759 I can't imagine you would have you would have guessed 45 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:11.240 that when we talked late January that this team would 46 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:13.199 be in this position, not only with this record, but 47 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:14.680 they look pretty damn good. 48 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:19.439 Yeah, I mean, this role that they're on right now, 49 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:22.800 I don't think anyone outside of the locker room really 50 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:26.319 saw coming to this extent, you know where they're winning 51 00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:27.800 basically every game. 52 00:02:27.639 --> 00:02:31.719 By double digits, even including on the road, with the 53 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:35.039 exception that will win that pit. But I think it's 54 00:02:35.120 --> 00:02:39.639 probably been been kind of bubbling because they have played 55 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:45.039 with the consistency of effort. I feel like this whole year, 56 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:47.159 you know what I mean, you can't really point to 57 00:02:48.479 --> 00:02:51.800 I don't really see a letdown game now. 58 00:02:51.879 --> 00:02:58.120 Maybe maybe you could say the Eastern game where where, 59 00:02:58.199 --> 00:03:00.719 But that was That's always a tough game coming out 60 00:03:00.800 --> 00:03:02.199 after Christmas break. 61 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:05.360 You know, you haven't had the same practice schedule, and 62 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:09.400 you've got to spend time with your family. It's everything 63 00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:12.000 that kind of goes with it. So you're not going 64 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:14.520 to be running on all most of the time coming 65 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:15.159 off of that game. 66 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:19.080 So outside of that, like I hadn't really seen a 67 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:22.240 spot where I was like, where's their energy, where's their effort? 68 00:03:22.439 --> 00:03:25.800 You know, that's been consistent with this team, and it's 69 00:03:26.240 --> 00:03:29.520 certainly helped translate into this nine game winning streak. 70 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:32.360 There on no doubt about it, And I'm totally with you. 71 00:03:32.360 --> 00:03:35.000 I don't feel like there's anything they've done at any 72 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:37.080 point where you can you know, if they I think 73 00:03:37.080 --> 00:03:40.280 if they come out just completely flat, don't look ready 74 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:42.800 to play, and they're not bringing the level of energy 75 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:45.280 and intensity like that would be the first time, because 76 00:03:45.319 --> 00:03:48.680 I think throughout the entire year they've been been pretty 77 00:03:48.719 --> 00:03:49.120 good at that. 78 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:51.080 But but I feel like. 79 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:53.360 Right around the beginning of this month when they when 80 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:56.719 they played North Carolina following that ekau win, I just 81 00:03:56.960 --> 00:03:59.039 there was a little bit of an extra edge to them. 82 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:01.560 They were a little bit more. I mean, again, I 83 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:04.759 hate emphasizing that there was a flip switched because it 84 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:06.960 makes it seem as if they weren't playing hard before 85 00:04:07.039 --> 00:04:08.960 we got to January, but something was just a little 86 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:12.319 bit different, and they're now not just playing well and 87 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:14.759 winning and clearly putting themselves in a great position to 88 00:04:14.840 --> 00:04:17.639 potentially be in the INSAA Tournament. I'm starting to kind 89 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:19.680 of wonder, Okay, what is the ceiling for this team? 90 00:04:19.720 --> 00:04:21.800 Certainly they're not the best team in the country, and 91 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:24.319 and right now with the good with the wins they 92 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:26.519 have in the streak, their best win is still not 93 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:28.600 you know, an elite win that's gonna stand out as 94 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:33.000 a real, big, big resume type win. But I'm just 95 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:35.279 thinking the way they're I'm not really thinking about the opponent. 96 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:36.959 I just think with the way they're playing as far 97 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:39.439 as defense, and now they've got guys playing with a 98 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:40.959 ton of confidence knocking down shots. 99 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:42.680 I mean, are you of. 100 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:45.879 The belief that this team is And I'm sure it's 101 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:47.759 a product of two things. One they're playing well and 102 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:50.120 also they're taking advantage of an acc that's not as 103 00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:52.120 good as it once was. But you had to guess 104 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:54.920 between the two, which is it more about the fact 105 00:04:54.920 --> 00:04:56.680 that they've just turned it up a notch or more 106 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:57.519 so the competition. 107 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:03.639 For sure that it's all about what U of L 108 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:07.160 is doing, not necessarily the competition that they're playing, just 109 00:05:07.160 --> 00:05:09.399 just because I feel like they have a different level 110 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:14.319 of confidence now than they had, you know, mid December, 111 00:05:14.439 --> 00:05:15.879 when they took some lumps. 112 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:19.199 The three game losing streak, losing four out of five 113 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:24.079 during that stretch, you know, with Kentucky, Duke Ovis and Oklahoma. 114 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:29.360 So I think that has, if anything, that is kind 115 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:33.000 of the reason behind it because they all coming into 116 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:36.399 the year, they didn't really know how their roles were 117 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:38.279 gonna be, you know what I mean. They didn't know 118 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:40.439 how they were gonna fit with each other, They didn't 119 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:42.600 know who they could depend on for X Y Z. 120 00:05:42.920 --> 00:05:45.959 I think we talked about the way back when when 121 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:48.879 they went to the Bahamas, the Battle for Atlantis, and 122 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:52.399 I look back at those three games that when I 123 00:05:52.399 --> 00:05:56.360 feel like Chucky Hepburn kind of emerged as the leader 124 00:05:56.399 --> 00:06:00.439 of the team and took more, took more of a 125 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:05.079 burden in terms of the offensive production that he had, 126 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:08.240 and I feel like he is the guy that sess 127 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:11.720 it tone for the whole team and once that kind 128 00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:15.720 of pecking order worked its way out, because I still 129 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:19.120 feel like I remember the Tennessee game where to me, 130 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:22.360 it looked like guys were looking at each other like 131 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:24.959 who's going to be the guy to step forward? You 132 00:06:25.040 --> 00:06:26.920 know what I mean. Tennessee had got on a little 133 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:29.759 run early in that game, and it just didn't seem 134 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:35.519 like anybody was. And this is not discrediting the players. 135 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:37.959 It's just like they were figuring out on the fly, 136 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:40.360 and we were watching it in real time as they 137 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:44.439 figured it out. So but I felt like no one 138 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:46.879 really knew who was going to be the guy. They 139 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:49.040 were all kind of deferring to each other. But I 140 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:53.680 felt like once Chucky asserted himself and they kind of 141 00:06:54.120 --> 00:06:57.199 everyone kind of fell into their roles and responsibilities. I 142 00:06:57.279 --> 00:06:59.879 feel like that that's what's helped his team to kind 143 00:06:59.879 --> 00:07:02.959 of takeoff. They have confidence in that now, and I 144 00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:05.399 dare say they have a swagger about them now. 145 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:08.160 Yeah, they do. I mean I think I think you're 146 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:10.879 spot on. I think they're very sure of themselves. Their 147 00:07:10.959 --> 00:07:13.879 roles have been identified, and even before injuries happen, they 148 00:07:13.879 --> 00:07:16.240 were still feeling each other out, kind of trying to 149 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:19.120 get comfortable, which you really like, can't You can't do 150 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:21.199 that until you get into a season and you start 151 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:22.839 playing games. I mean, it's one thing to play in 152 00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:25.639 the offseason and play in the summer, and those games 153 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:27.879 they played in the Bahamas. But yeah, I mean they've 154 00:07:27.959 --> 00:07:30.120 kind of just rounded into having a real identity and 155 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:33.480 everybody understands their role, and they've got good balance to 156 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:35.720 where if there is somebody that has an off night, 157 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:38.920 which has happened recently, you got Javon Hadley going for 158 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:42.199 thirty two. Rain Smith has been a guy that's ledging 159 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:45.199 scoring because he's just got insanely hot. So yeah, I mean, 160 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:48.560 it does seem as if last night, specifically, just because 161 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:50.920 of how dominant they were and the records that were broke, 162 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:53.319 it seems as if they're starting to get some more 163 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:56.000 attention than just you know, they're taking advantage of the 164 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:58.160 a SEC. I think people are kind of realizing, hey, 165 00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:00.199 maybe this team actually could be somebody that could make 166 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:02.040 it out of the of the first weekend of the 167 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:04.240 NCAA tournament. But Seal Brown is our guest joining us 168 00:08:04.240 --> 00:08:07.360 here on Sports Talk seven ninety the ACC. How many 169 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:10.319 teams do you do you think can get in? I mean, 170 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:13.639 I think there's there's there's maybe five in the mix 171 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:15.800 right now. One that is sure to get in, Duke, 172 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:17.680 and then Louisville looks to be in great shape. But 173 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:20.000 after that you got some bubble teams. I mean, I 174 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:21.920 guess I'm asking you to predict the future here, but 175 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:25.279 I mean, what's the realistic chances of this of this 176 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:27.160 league getting four to five teams in. 177 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:32.799 Yeah, it's like playing space. I got three of the 178 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:34.200 possible right now. 179 00:08:34.279 --> 00:08:34.519 Yeah. 180 00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:38.519 I think if the season member right now is being Duke, Louisville, Clinton, 181 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:41.639 and wake Forest would be kind of that bubble team 182 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:45.480 that got in if they ended actually ended now, Carolina 183 00:08:45.519 --> 00:08:46.960 would probably still get in. 184 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:49.399 On the right side right now. 185 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:55.279 Yeah, they're really looking looking at projecting this going forward. 186 00:08:55.360 --> 00:08:57.399 I wouldn't have them in because I feel like they're 187 00:08:57.399 --> 00:08:59.840 going to lose some more. I just don't think. I 188 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:02.480 don't think they have it. I don't think Hubert Davis 189 00:09:02.840 --> 00:09:08.080 has the right kind of roster. They have glaring holes. 190 00:09:08.200 --> 00:09:13.480 Their offenses is kind of behind schedule, and I think 191 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:16.519 that's gonna end up being meaning that the a SEC 192 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:19.759 is only going to get four teams in. And unlike 193 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:25.639 past years, I mean these recent past what four seasons 194 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:27.679 where the a SEC ended up with someone in the 195 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:31.799 final four. I don't know that I see that this year, 196 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:34.879 but I mean we'll see, you know, comes down the 197 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:38.200 matchups and everything in the tournament. But I don't even 198 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:42.279 think Dukes as well as they're playing right now. 199 00:09:42.639 --> 00:09:45.480 And it really hurts Duke because he's playing in this 200 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:48.519 water down ACC isn't really going to do anything for 201 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:51.279 them when they get in the postseason and have to 202 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:52.840 play one. 203 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:57.519 Possession games and tight games. You know, we don't know 204 00:09:57.519 --> 00:09:59.919 if they've learned from earlier in the year, you know, 205 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:02.480 until they're back in that situation, and I'm not sure 206 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:04.559 they're going to be tested like that in the ACC. 207 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:07.120 So yeah, I mean it's a wild thing to think 208 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:09.639 about because it's just it. I mean, it's a scenario 209 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:13.320 I never envisioned when it comes to ACC basketball, and 210 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:16.039 I think Duke has really good pieces, a lot of 211 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:18.679 young talent. I think Shire went out and got specific 212 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:21.519 guys from the portal that may not be big names, 213 00:10:21.559 --> 00:10:24.159 but man, they fit exactly what he wants. So I'm 214 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:26.600 still bullish on this Duke team, but you're right, it 215 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:28.960 can't be healthy for him to go through two and 216 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:31.120 a half months of play where they're really not getting 217 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:32.960 I mean, look, if Louisville ends up being the best 218 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:36.480 team that Duke played from January on, I mean, that's 219 00:10:36.960 --> 00:10:38.679 as well as louis was playing right now. They weren't 220 00:10:38.679 --> 00:10:40.919 playing that good I mean when they played Duke. So 221 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:43.120 I mean it's kind of scary. Let me throw this 222 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:45.960 act you. Casey Jacobson, who does a former Stanford player 223 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:49.720 who now works for Fox Sports. Duke came up during 224 00:10:49.759 --> 00:10:51.759 their halftime show the other night during one of the 225 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:54.399 Big Ten games, and he said something that I thought, 226 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:57.240 Wait a second, that's crazy, this is nonsense. But then 227 00:10:57.279 --> 00:10:59.480 I'm like, wait a second. As crazy as that sounds like, 228 00:10:59.519 --> 00:11:01.559 he may be right that Duke's kind of going through 229 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:02.879 the Gonzaga stuff this year. 230 00:11:02.919 --> 00:11:04.639 I mean, the rest of the ACC is not. 231 00:11:04.679 --> 00:11:08.240 As bad as I guess, the the WCC that Gonzaga 232 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:10.279 plays in, but still Duke is believed to be an 233 00:11:10.279 --> 00:11:12.799 elite team. But they're going to go a long time 234 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:15.600 without really being challenged. I mean, you've covered the ACC 235 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:18.559 for a long time, obviously with your roots in North Carolina. 236 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:22.080 You know what this league has been historically in college basketball. 237 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:25.240 I mean, I know I've asked you this many times 238 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:27.200 in our conversations, but like, how did we get here? 239 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:29.960 I know coaches retired and clearly that happens, but this 240 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:31.000 is this is crazy. 241 00:11:32.279 --> 00:11:34.759 Yeah, yeah, you're right, it is crazy. 242 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:37.000 I think some of it has to do with the 243 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:43.000 coaching hires that were made. You basically replaced Hall of 244 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:47.759 famers with unproven and untested guys, even John Shire, you know, 245 00:11:47.919 --> 00:11:49.840 I mean they got to the elite a last year. 246 00:11:51.320 --> 00:11:54.919 In my opinion, this is so backhanded. I apologize, I 247 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:56.639 like and I like Duke. 248 00:11:57.039 --> 00:11:57.960 But I love. 249 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:04.120 Yeah. I mean, if if my guy doesn't go down, now, 250 00:12:04.120 --> 00:12:06.559 I'm forgetting his name to guard for Houston last year 251 00:12:07.360 --> 00:12:09.879 who got hurt in that game. If he doesn't go 252 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:14.399 down I felt like Houston wins that game easily. It 253 00:12:14.519 --> 00:12:17.720 was like they played Jamal Jamal Shed yep. You know 254 00:12:17.799 --> 00:12:19.879 he twisted his ankle in the middle of that Sweet 255 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:23.159 sixteen game and goes on a win by three. But 256 00:12:23.679 --> 00:12:26.639 and then they lost to in some state, an eleven seed. 257 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:30.279 You know that also beat him in the ACENC tournament. 258 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:35.200 So John Shires untested. Hubert Davis. You look at the 259 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:38.600 course of his three seasons of Carolina. Yes, they got 260 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:41.279 to the final four in the National Championship in his 261 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:45.519 first year, but really the regular seasons has had three 262 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:48.799 bad regular seasons. His first year wasn't good until the 263 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:51.960 very end when they came on in February. The second 264 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:55.120 year they missed the tournament. That year was legit. They 265 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:57.679 earned the number one seed when they see regular season, 266 00:12:57.720 --> 00:12:59.600 and this year is another year where it's looking like 267 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:03.320 bubble too. So you know, for those three red Autrey 268 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:07.440 Syracuse is struggling this year. It's just, you know, no 269 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:10.039 one seems to be able to get George Tech in 270 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:14.000 order and back playing at a high level. Wake Forest. 271 00:13:14.000 --> 00:13:16.879 As much as I love Steve Forbes in his time there, 272 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:20.360 they haven't been back to the tournament, you know since 273 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:24.559 what was it, twenty seventeen under Danny Manning. Like all 274 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:27.679 of these things happening, and of course, you know, for 275 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:30.559 Tony Bennett to retire at the beginning of the season 276 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:35.919 and Virginmy can't reset at that point, you know, so 277 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:38.799 that this year was just going to be a wash. 278 00:13:38.840 --> 00:13:40.600 They didn't have a lot of talent to begin with. 279 00:13:40.879 --> 00:13:45.360 So all of those things happening at one time has 280 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:49.440 just left this league decimated. And I think, you know, 281 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:53.200 we're seeing all of that play out and how bad 282 00:13:53.240 --> 00:13:55.240 they've been in non conference play. 283 00:13:55.639 --> 00:13:59.360 Yeah, I think Louisville, you know, they did something. So 284 00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:02.080 in fact, Louis Louisville made a higher that made sense 285 00:14:02.120 --> 00:14:05.200 and was successful early on when they moved on, when 286 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:08.279 they moved to Chris Mack and then obviously that ended poorly, 287 00:14:08.360 --> 00:14:10.840 and then they brought in Kenny Payne, and that that 288 00:14:10.919 --> 00:14:13.399 kind of higher that that Kenny Payne was as far 289 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:15.759 as a guy that the biggest reason he was even 290 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:17.799 mentioned is because of his connection to the school. You're 291 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:21.120 seeing that elsewhere and I mean, I think Red Autrey, 292 00:14:21.159 --> 00:14:23.559 that's that's not working out really at all. I mean 293 00:14:23.559 --> 00:14:26.960 with Hubert Davis, I mean it's it's clearly much more 294 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:29.360 successful than others have been, but for the Carolina standard, 295 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:31.639 not so much Carolina's North Carolina. 296 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:32.279 Uh So. 297 00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:36.159 I mean I think the ACC basketball programs, if they 298 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:38.159 go out and get a guy that has a similar 299 00:14:38.600 --> 00:14:40.919 profile of Pat Kelsey when he was hired at Louisville, 300 00:14:40.919 --> 00:14:43.639 I feel like the resources are there to where those 301 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:45.559 kind of coaches. You never know if it's going to 302 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:47.120 work out or not, but they should be able to 303 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:49.200 have to have some success. But I feel like these 304 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:51.919 hires here in the next couple of years are going 305 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:55.000 to be really vital to this league, you know, getting 306 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:57.960 some credibility back. It's not just about where you stand 307 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:00.320 in regards to the power leagues. I mean, this league 308 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:03.159 is at a level that I never thought possible, and 309 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:05.440 I'm sure I'm hopeful if this is kind of a 310 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:07.120 one off as far as where they are right now. 311 00:15:07.159 --> 00:15:08.679 But you know, let me give you an example. I think, 312 00:15:08.799 --> 00:15:09.799 and I think I mentioned. 313 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:12.039 This to you and Charlotte at the ACC basketball media day, 314 00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:14.159 like Michael Shrewsbury was a guy that I feel like 315 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:17.000 that neat like that working out would have been a 316 00:15:17.000 --> 00:15:19.480 good sign that the ACC can get back. I mean, 317 00:15:19.480 --> 00:15:21.320 it's just one team, but he's somebody that took over 318 00:15:21.399 --> 00:15:23.080 a job at Notre Dame that I feel like, despite 319 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:25.039 it being a football school, you can win there. And 320 00:15:25.120 --> 00:15:27.240 last year they showed signs. This year they're they're not 321 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:30.320 very good. So I don't know. It just makes me 322 00:15:30.399 --> 00:15:32.159 sad because the league is of course, you know, and 323 00:15:32.279 --> 00:15:33.679 I'm sure it makes you even more sad than me 324 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:35.759 because of you know, you followed it longer than I have. 325 00:15:35.919 --> 00:15:39.320 But I just I find myself at times, you know, 326 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:43.559 hearing the the the pundits talk about bracketology that kind 327 00:15:43.559 --> 00:15:45.879 of stuff, and I want to be defensive, and you know, think, 328 00:15:45.919 --> 00:15:47.559 wait a second, you're talking about the ACC here, and 329 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:49.039 then I'm like, well wait a second, you're right, Like 330 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:52.080 it's it's bad yeah. 331 00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:55.799 Yeah, well I do think I do think Shrewsbury is 332 00:15:55.919 --> 00:15:59.279 ultimately gonna work out there. It definitely hurt when yea, 333 00:15:59.519 --> 00:16:02.120 I love them Burt in their guard went down and 334 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:05.000 and you know, I don't remember how many gangs he missed, 335 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:09.519 But it's tough to basically you lose your best player. 336 00:16:09.639 --> 00:16:11.679 Didn't have to try and compensate. 337 00:16:11.879 --> 00:16:12.559 It's just a second. 338 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:15.120 You're already working with a thin line. Yeah, there's a 339 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:18.799 thin margin of error there, notre Dame. But but to 340 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:21.759 your point, you know, I think the main thing is 341 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:25.759 that a lot of schools need to know there are 342 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:28.799 other talented guys who didn't go to your school who 343 00:16:28.879 --> 00:16:31.720 would work at your school. And and you know, I'm 344 00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:36.440 looking dead at Carolina and Duke and Syracuse when when 345 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:40.559 I say those kinds of things, I do think it's 346 00:16:40.600 --> 00:16:42.559 it's great when it works out when you have a 347 00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:46.799 Roy Williams who who loves his album Mater and and 348 00:16:46.960 --> 00:16:49.919 could return and keep it where you knows as a 349 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:54.679 historic we've been. But taking a chance on Hubert, you know, 350 00:16:55.519 --> 00:17:00.799 who hadn't had any head coaching experience, I think we're 351 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:03.399 seeing it. We're seeing how it plays out. It's it's 352 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:06.279 It's a gamble that I don't know if it's worth taking, 353 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:11.119 and I think I think the ACC is paying for 354 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:13.599 that those kind of decisions right now. 355 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:16.720 So Hubert Davis again did make it to a Final four, 356 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:18.599 and really, I mean, he could easily have a national 357 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:20.680 championship had they played a little better in that second 358 00:17:20.720 --> 00:17:24.519 half against Kansas, And that has value. But I mean, 359 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:27.079 how are I mean not to say, you've got your 360 00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:29.119 your finger on the pulse of the entire North Carolina 361 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:31.680 fan base, but I know you are connected there much 362 00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:34.680 more than most. I mean, are they even talking about 363 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:36.880 like wanting a different coach. He's one of their own. 364 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:38.839 I just don't feel like they would make a move. 365 00:17:38.839 --> 00:17:40.480 But what the hell do I know? Maybe they maybe 366 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:42.440 they would like is his job in any way? Like 367 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:45.240 if they missed the tournament this year, I mean, will 368 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:47.680 there be talk about people wanting a change? 369 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:52.119 Oh? The talk is? Are the talk started? Okay? They 370 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:55.880 took over the talk, you know, in the middle of 371 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:58.759 that first season, in the middle of the regular season, 372 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:03.039 when they not only lost the Marquee games, they lost Biggs. 373 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:05.680 I mean, I remember I was out at the game 374 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:11.599 when they played Kentucky in Vegas, and uh, I can't 375 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:15.799 remember the exact some of these exact stats, but it 376 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:18.160 was like they got Kentucky got what they wanted in 377 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:21.160 the lane. Like it was an embarrassing loss, you know. 378 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:24.960 And the talk has always been early on. 379 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:29.759 That he wasn't ready for the game, he wasn't ready 380 00:18:29.759 --> 00:18:32.160 for this position, and maybe they should have gone with 381 00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:34.480 even wes Miller, who had at least been a head 382 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:37.680 coach before and is a Carolina guy and you know, 383 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:42.160 is an up and comer. I'm not sure that wes 384 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:46.000 Miller is in any conversations right now because since Annetti 385 00:18:46.160 --> 00:18:49.400 is is kind of brutal to watch offensively currently. 386 00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:52.720 But but still like the talk has been there, you know, 387 00:18:52.839 --> 00:18:55.200 in terms of his hubret this right is the right 388 00:18:55.240 --> 00:18:58.480 guy for the job. So it has picked back up. 389 00:18:58.920 --> 00:19:01.319 I don't think that they and a position right now 390 00:19:01.319 --> 00:19:03.680 where they would make a move this season, even if 391 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:06.759 Carolina doesn't make the tournament. But I do think if 392 00:19:06.759 --> 00:19:10.279 they don't make the tournament, then it's it's, you know, 393 00:19:10.359 --> 00:19:13.200 a make or break season next year, for for real, 394 00:19:13.519 --> 00:19:14.400 with who. 395 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:16.680 Do they call with Carolina if that happens, who's the 396 00:19:16.680 --> 00:19:17.160 phone again? 397 00:19:17.240 --> 00:19:19.160 And who knows? There's there could be a name at 398 00:19:19.160 --> 00:19:21.279 that time. That's that's you know, that's not even talked 399 00:19:21.319 --> 00:19:21.680 about now. 400 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:22.839 But like, who do you? Who? Do you? Where do you? 401 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:23.960