WEBVTT 1 00:00:47.359 --> 00:00:52.679 Wow, do you remember that what you do, haven't? The 2 00:00:52.719 --> 00:00:55.840 Wizard of Oz is the movie that comes from and 3 00:00:55.880 --> 00:00:59.079 that's the March of the Winkies, or as they would say, 4 00:00:59.079 --> 00:01:02.960 the chant from the nineteen thirty nine movie Wizard of Oz. 5 00:01:04.040 --> 00:01:06.920 And I felt that it was appropriate. I felt it 6 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:11.120 was appropriate for today's program on giants. We haven't anybody 7 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:14.480 talking about giants in over at least a year and 8 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:17.799 a half, maybe two years, seems to have fadd I 9 00:01:17.840 --> 00:01:21.239 think the last person we had on was Hugh Newman 10 00:01:22.120 --> 00:01:26.840 and his co writer Jim Vieira, and they have written 11 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:29.519 a couple of different giant books. We were talking about 12 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:33.760 European giants at that time, but today we're talking about 13 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:41.400 Giants of Atlantis. And my returning author research researcher is 14 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:45.280 Patrick Schnard. And Patrick hasn't been on, would you believe 15 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:51.000 since night since twenty seventeen, I think, or maybe even earlier. 16 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:55.680 We'll find out today. And giants are an interesting topic, 17 00:01:55.760 --> 00:02:00.239 simably because here in the United States, when they were 18 00:02:01.519 --> 00:02:07.280 digging into the mounds of the Mississippi Valley area, Ohio 19 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:12.199 and other parts that had significant mounds, in some cases 20 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:16.560 they found giant skeletons and when I say giants, some 21 00:02:16.599 --> 00:02:20.280 of them were eight feet tall. And there is an 22 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:24.719 early turn of the century flood of giant sightings. It 23 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:28.680 seems like people were buying plots of land that were 24 00:02:28.680 --> 00:02:33.520 once sacred to the native people of the country, of 25 00:02:33.560 --> 00:02:38.280 the various regions, and they were finding very large humans. Now, 26 00:02:39.240 --> 00:02:42.599 some places in one of the places is the Catalina 27 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:48.319 Islands off the coast of Santa Barbara, California, had very 28 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:53.560 tall people in the twelve foot range. But the rumors 29 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:57.680 of people being twenty and twenty five and beyond that 30 00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:03.199 are kind of stretching the reality of the situation. Hey, 31 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:06.560 this is Cliff, your host of Earth Ancients, and I've 32 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:11.080 always been fascinated in giants. About five years ago we 33 00:03:11.159 --> 00:03:14.520 had an author who had written a book on Earth's 34 00:03:14.840 --> 00:03:20.400 descending periods, and apparently, according to him, the dinosaurs were 35 00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:26.560 created because the gravity on the planet was such that 36 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:32.280 large animals were able to develop, be birthed, and actually 37 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:36.360 grow into huge monstrosities. If you have never seen the 38 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:38.960 skeleton of a dinosaur, go check it out at your 39 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:47.039 local natural history natural science museum. They were monstrosities, fifty 40 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:53.159 sixty ton creatures that were moving and God, if you 41 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:56.520 had to face a t Dinosaurs Rex or any one 42 00:03:56.560 --> 00:04:01.680 of those gigantic dinosaurs, you were in trouble. You were 43 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:05.439 in trouble. And there's some people that believe, and there 44 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:09.840 is growing evidence that the dinosaurs were around at the 45 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:13.719 same time there was a man mankind was around. We've 46 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:17.639 recently heard from Randall Carlson that the dinosaurs were basically 47 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:24.360 destroyed in a catastrophic event sixty six million years ago. 48 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:27.560 But in places like New Mexico and other parts of 49 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:32.720 the world, there is evidence of human occupation at the 50 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:36.319 same time. And the reason we know this is because 51 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:43.199 there are footprints of dinosaurs along with footprints of human beings. 52 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:46.639 Now we don't know if these are Homo sapien. Sapien 53 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:50.279 scientists would say no, it's more like an earlier hominin 54 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:56.240 that was living at the time. But damn talk about 55 00:04:57.160 --> 00:04:59.720 a problem. If you run into the path of one 56 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:05.399 of those giant carnivore dinosaurs, you're in trouble. So anyhow, 57 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:09.920 that was that focus on that author, But he had 58 00:05:09.959 --> 00:05:13.839 another book where he felt that the giants that are 59 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:17.560 rumored to have existed on Earth may have had the 60 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:21.519 same issues where the gravity was at such a rate 61 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:28.839 that the ability to birth humans of great stature and 62 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:33.720 girth were in effect. So we don't know. It appears 63 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:38.199 that at one point science wasn't really supportive of the 64 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:45.279 theory of giants, and so skulls and physical remains, skeletal 65 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:49.319 remains were in some cases see appears to be covered up. 66 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:53.160 There's a lot of rumor that the Smithsonian Institute in 67 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:59.160 d Washington, d C. Sent out filled archaeologists to collect 68 00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:03.839 they remain from these mounds and we never saw them again. 69 00:06:04.839 --> 00:06:07.720 In fact, this is what a number of authors that 70 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:11.279 we've had on the program have been telling us. I 71 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:14.319 think he was one as well as Jim vi Era, 72 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:21.519 that these giants were reported, and they have articles in 73 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:27.600 their book where local journalists were chronicling the discovery of 74 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:30.360 humans that were eight feet ten feet twelve feet tall 75 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:40.079 in burial mounds, and that they were collected by field archaeologists, 76 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:47.040 brought back to the Smithsonian Institute and then either categorized 77 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:52.519 or placed in a vulnerable position and either disintegrated or 78 00:06:52.600 --> 00:06:56.759 were destroyed in a variety of manner. This has been 79 00:06:56.800 --> 00:06:58.560 a problem for a while. When I first started Earth 80 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:03.680 the Ancients, everybody was down on the Smithsonian Institute and 81 00:07:04.519 --> 00:07:09.360 functions like the National Geographic. This is old school science. 82 00:07:09.399 --> 00:07:15.480 And as we begin finding evidence of an earlier civilization, 83 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:17.839 and I always say this, if they don't come up 84 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:21.480 to speed, they will kind of be lost in the shuffle. 85 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:24.920 I think, as much as I enjoy the photography and 86 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:28.639 National Geographic, I haven't picked up a National Geographic in 87 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:32.560 years because it's kind of the same old stuff. You know, 88 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:38.600 they're not diving at Dwarka, India to see one of 89 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:42.720 the oldest underwater cities in the world. We know, they're 90 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:46.879 not diving off of New Orleans, Louisiana to look at 91 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:50.959 some of the ruins that are down there. And you know, 92 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:53.560 they don't want to shut rock the boat. They want 93 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:59.120 to support the current narrative of man's development approximately four 94 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:02.160 and a half five thousand years ago. And before that, 95 00:08:02.199 --> 00:08:04.720 we're apes dragging our hands on the ground and we're 96 00:08:04.839 --> 00:08:10.360 hunters and gatherers, which just doesn't work anymore for me 97 00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:12.959 and for many many other people that are on this program. 98 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:17.560 So there you go. So we're going to talk about 99 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:22.959 giants of Atlantis with reference to giants around the world. 100 00:08:23.439 --> 00:08:27.720 Patrick is a very thorough author and he has written extensively. 101 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:32.039 This book, by the way, Giants of Atlantis, came out 102 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:35.600 a couple of months ago, is over four hundred pages, 103 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:38.919 so very much worth your while to get it. So 104 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:44.440 today's program is Giants of Atlantis Legacy of the Fallen Race, 105 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:51.639 and my guest is Patrick Schnard. Hey, I do tours 106 00:08:51.679 --> 00:08:54.120 every year, and I gotta tell you some of them 107 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:57.399 are outstanding. We have one that's coming up in December 108 00:08:57.480 --> 00:09:01.320 that is just over the top. It's the Guatemala's Sacred 109 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:04.559 Temple Tour December first through the twelfth. 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This is 126 00:10:14.639 --> 00:10:17.679 a tour not to be missed again earthacients dot com 127 00:10:17.960 --> 00:10:57.799 Forward slash Tours. It's been a while since we've discussed 128 00:10:57.840 --> 00:11:01.440 the history of the giants on Earth. We've had a 129 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:06.559 number of people over the years discussing and providing evidence, 130 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:11.159 including Hugh Newman, who had a recent book on the 131 00:11:11.240 --> 00:11:16.480 Giants of UK and his belief that the a race 132 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:21.360 of giants built Stonehenge and use Stonehenge and other megalithic 133 00:11:21.480 --> 00:11:27.360 sites in England. But my returning guest today has written 134 00:11:27.559 --> 00:11:33.000 extensively about the giants, and I'm really happy to welcome 135 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:36.360 Patrick Sennard back with us. We haven't had Patrick since 136 00:11:36.440 --> 00:11:40.519 twenty nineteen. Apparently I didn't know that his new book 137 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:45.320 is Giants of Atlantis Legacy of the Fallen Race, and 138 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:49.399 I was intrigued because This book is over four hundred pages, 139 00:11:49.440 --> 00:11:53.759 and Patrick makes a thorough assessment not only of North 140 00:11:53.799 --> 00:11:59.320 American giants, but really giants around the world. So, hey, Patrick, 141 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:02.600 welcome back to Earth Ancient. It's great to see how 142 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:02.919 you been. 143 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:05.399 Oh, I'm great to be here. Great to be here 144 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:07.039 with you and your listeners. 145 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:11.399 Fantastic. Hey, let's start from the beginning. What was kind 146 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:14.720 of the And I don't think I've ever asked you this, 147 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:18.000 What did you really get interested in the giant question? 148 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:20.879 Was it because of the mountain builders and you were 149 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:25.039 in the South and you you were walking through Kahokia 150 00:12:25.960 --> 00:12:29.279 or was it just a general interest in jo You know. 151 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:33.360 I did go to Kohokia, and I did, in fact 152 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:36.480 go to the mounds. In fact, I was up in 153 00:12:36.519 --> 00:12:41.360 the Upper Midwest one summer with my father and the 154 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:44.720 motor home. We were going as a family trip, and 155 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:50.159 I gave Wayne May, an ancient American magazine, a call, 156 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:53.440 and he said, you know, check out the Dana and 157 00:12:53.480 --> 00:12:57.279 Hopewell Mounds. So we went to a mall. But that's 158 00:12:57.360 --> 00:13:01.799 not what really sparked my interest in the giants. I 159 00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:04.679 to be honest with you, I was just reading the 160 00:13:04.720 --> 00:13:12.559 works of Charles Fort and also David Childress, and they 161 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:15.320 wrote a little bit about them. But then I really 162 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:19.480 started to get interested just by you know, the idea 163 00:13:19.639 --> 00:13:23.399 sparking a little bubble in my head, and I started 164 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:26.600 researching this and I said, you know, that would make 165 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:31.039 a good book. So that one idea eventually first led 166 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:36.480 to an article and a new page anthology that came 167 00:13:36.519 --> 00:13:40.960 out with Airic Bondanakin and Nick Redfern and several other authors. 168 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:46.080 And from that article I developed my first book, well 169 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:48.000 actually it was my second book, but with my first 170 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:55.600 book on giants, the Lost Brace of the Giants, And yeah, 171 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:59.240 that was a very successful book. It was a groundbreaking 172 00:13:59.240 --> 00:14:02.120 book and basically, I hate to say this, the start 173 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:06.559 of the whole movement about giants back then, and. 174 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:09.919 What you Lost Race of the Giants come out? Was 175 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:12.039 that like twenty eighteen. 176 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:16.799 Oh, twenty thirteen. Oh wow, it was like the beginning 177 00:14:16.840 --> 00:14:19.799 of the whole thing. And I wish I was a 178 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:26.000 little more signed on that in Ancient Mysteries for contributing 179 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:29.559 to that than I am. But it was a it 180 00:14:29.600 --> 00:14:34.840 was a groundbreaking piece of work. And after that, you know, 181 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:39.840 I continue to do my research and Giants of Atlantis, 182 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:43.720 the Legacy of the Fallen Race is basically what it 183 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:46.519 is is a sequel to both of those first two 184 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:52.120 intermeditions books Forgotten Worlds and Lost Race of the Giants, 185 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:55.679 because it not only talks about giants, but talks about 186 00:14:55.720 --> 00:15:02.600 their role in Atlantean this. Yeah, I mean the name 187 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:06.759 giant comes from the Greek Gigantes, and if you really 188 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:11.600 look into its etymology and its mythological context, it goes 189 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:18.120 back to earthborn and that's because they are the products 190 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:24.960 of Gaya in in Chronos. So they are the giants, 191 00:15:25.080 --> 00:15:31.240 and in some areas of Greek mythology they're linked to Atlantis. 192 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:35.440 And I further linked them to legends of fully and 193 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:41.120 other like Lumeria, and that's something that Levatsky did. She 194 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:45.360 connected them to le Maria and Atlantis. So I kind 195 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:50.039 of get into the esoteric areas of that and ariosopy 196 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:56.000 theospapy and really get into some of the occult aspects. 197 00:15:56.320 --> 00:16:01.720 Yeah, Giantess talk a bit abouts for very few people 198 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:04.480 talk about him. He's kind of a turn of the century. 199 00:16:05.519 --> 00:16:08.399 He could consider him an early version of Graham Hancock, 200 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:12.600 where he's discussing anomalies like frogs flat coming out of 201 00:16:12.600 --> 00:16:15.080 the sky and stuff like that. But where does he 202 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:19.279 refer to giants? Does he go to the mounds or 203 00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:23.399 is he talking about tombs that have giant skeletons or what? 204 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:27.360 Well, he is like the origin of the up parts 205 00:16:27.399 --> 00:16:32.759 if you know what ou parts had a place on artbacks. Yeah, 206 00:16:32.960 --> 00:16:36.440 it's when it is claim the fame, and he just 207 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:40.519 basically hits it all. He hits on giants. He a 208 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:44.600 little bit on the extraterrestrial influence. So he kind of 209 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:52.759 anticipated the whole alien theory to some extent. And so 210 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:58.399 he and HP Lovecraft, both of them kind of anticipated that. 211 00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:04.480 You know HP love wrote about uh the Kusulu uh 212 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:09.319 old ones and uh. But that that being said, Uh, 213 00:17:09.799 --> 00:17:14.599 I was very fascinated by Charles Fwartz, uh uh you know, 214 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:19.559 examination of out of place artifacts, and I even got into, 215 00:17:19.680 --> 00:17:22.039 like I think, if you remember me talking on our 216 00:17:22.119 --> 00:17:25.920 last show, out of Place Caucasians, where you're talking about 217 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:30.799 in mythology, you know, the light skinned almost Nordy type 218 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:36.519 aliens that uh seemed to be ever present in mythology 219 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:41.319 like I'm a Taratsu in Japan and in the sun 220 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:44.880 gods in China who built the pyramids and things like that. 221 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:52.640 So I was very fascinated by him, and Ripley's believed 222 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:55.640 it or not because they talked a little bit about giants, 223 00:17:55.640 --> 00:17:57.759 you know, like if you've ever been to the museums. 224 00:17:57.960 --> 00:18:00.599 Yeah, they actually had a couple of wax versions of 225 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:03.079 the tallest man in the world is I think he 226 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:05.200 was an American. I can't remember. He was like eight 227 00:18:05.240 --> 00:18:14.880 feet tall exactly. Yeah, fascinating. Talk to us about your 228 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:19.920 what you believe. The reasons are that archaeological science does 229 00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:26.640 not really take a closer look at these grave sites, 230 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:30.799 these tombs, and these ruins that you highlight in your 231 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:36.000 books that look to be built by giant humans. 232 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:43.279 I think it's because it's easier just to go with 233 00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:49.000 the most simplistic explanation, Oh, they were just made by 234 00:18:49.279 --> 00:18:54.920 pulleys and people dragging these huge blocks of stone in 235 00:18:55.000 --> 00:19:01.119 the place and using copper chisels and the simplest, easy 236 00:19:01.279 --> 00:19:04.599 to explain ways that they can say, oh, it just 237 00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:07.839 was done by human ingenuity, because if they were to 238 00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:12.880 admit that there was something, oh my god, something otherworldly, 239 00:19:13.319 --> 00:19:15.519 it would be just too much for them to admit 240 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:18.160 and get off their high horse. But the way I 241 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:21.480 think they have found evidence, and I think that evidence 242 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:26.359 has been kind of shoveled underneath. I think, you know, 243 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:30.440 there is a lot of rumors out there the Smithsonian, 244 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:35.079 you know, they covered up a lot of the discoveries 245 00:19:35.119 --> 00:19:38.559 that were going on back in the nineteenth century, in 246 00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:41.640 the early twentieth century. There's a lot of evidence for that. 247 00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:46.720 Like in the beginning of Giants of Atlantis, I talk 248 00:19:46.839 --> 00:19:52.480 about the Indiana Jones scene and Raiders of Lost Arc, 249 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:56.039 the last scene of the movie where the Lost Arc 250 00:19:56.160 --> 00:20:00.640 is being taken into the big warehouse, right and cams 251 00:20:00.920 --> 00:20:03.880 and you just see all these creates of all these 252 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:06.920 forbidden artifacts being hidden away. 253 00:20:08.680 --> 00:20:12.880 God, if that's true, that's so sad. That's our whole history. Yeah, 254 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:17.519 you know, I'm hoping that's just a movie the creative 255 00:20:17.680 --> 00:20:19.759 mind of the writer for that movie. 256 00:20:20.039 --> 00:20:26.440 Because yeah, yeah, if it's true, it is sad. And 257 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:28.640 you know that could be for all we know. Area 258 00:20:28.759 --> 00:20:29.400 fifty one. 259 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:35.119 You know, I want to talk about a chapter that 260 00:20:35.200 --> 00:20:39.920 you wrote about in this new book Giants of Atlantis, 261 00:20:40.440 --> 00:20:44.960 the Preodomic period, and talk about what we know about 262 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:49.440 this period and why it's such a fascination of yours. 263 00:20:50.079 --> 00:20:57.839 Well, the preandemic period is mentioned extensively in the Hebrew tradition. 264 00:20:59.400 --> 00:21:05.640 It's it's talked about in in Kabbalistic circles, but also 265 00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:11.319 in the Talmud. Uh it's reference to uh secondhandedly in 266 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:16.240 the Bible Uh in Jeremiah and also in several areas 267 00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:22.160 of Genesis, but also throughout this Talmud, which basically is 268 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:28.880 a commentary by rabbis. It's it's one of the most 269 00:21:29.079 --> 00:21:35.759 prominent uh Uh scriptures of the Jewish religion. And then 270 00:21:35.839 --> 00:21:41.519 the Kabbalistic and the Zohar talks about a time before Adam. 271 00:21:42.079 --> 00:21:45.440 In fact, I didn't think in ancient Aliens, I forget 272 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:48.200 his name. He's a rabbi. Who is he? That is 273 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:51.279 on ancient aliens all the time? You'll know the name. 274 00:21:54.960 --> 00:21:58.839 Ancients. I don't really watch ancient aliens much anymore. Oh, 275 00:21:58.920 --> 00:22:00.279 David Hatrick Sheldon. 276 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:05.640 No, No, the rabbi, I don't know, oh his name, 277 00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:08.519 But anyhow, he was talking about it when they talk 278 00:22:08.599 --> 00:22:14.119 about the lanes Uh, the ruler the land, the times 279 00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:18.000 before there was a ruler in Israel, and so that's 280 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:24.559 like referencing this time period. But in the Kabbalah and 281 00:22:24.599 --> 00:22:28.279 different things like that, they talk about this time and 282 00:22:28.319 --> 00:22:36.039 this is to me It's fascinating because I'm Christian and 283 00:22:36.200 --> 00:22:40.440 I am heavily into scripture and this idea that there 284 00:22:40.519 --> 00:22:45.079 was this other time before humanity, in which there was 285 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:51.480 this vast, sophisticated, superior race, long before we ever came 286 00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:56.599 to be, but on an earth, and that this civilization 287 00:22:57.359 --> 00:23:01.519 or the people, if you will, lead to our civilization, 288 00:23:02.079 --> 00:23:05.920 either directly or indirectly. It's just something that fascinates me, 289 00:23:05.960 --> 00:23:08.839 and I want to take it to the next level 290 00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:13.680 and discuss it. So I devoted a whole chapter to this. 291 00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:19.359 Right, where are the remains of these people? Would you 292 00:23:19.400 --> 00:23:21.920 say that they're in uh? Because you have a whole 293 00:23:21.920 --> 00:23:27.480 section on Malta and Sardinia and Italy where these are 294 00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:33.960 megalithic ruins and there's some gigantic especially in Sardinia, some 295 00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:37.359 magnificently large tombs. Talk a little bit about that part 296 00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:37.880 of the world. 297 00:23:38.480 --> 00:23:48.160 Yes, in Sardinia, the theirrogic tombs, they are you know, 298 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:51.680 they're they're they're they're dated to about three thousand BC. 299 00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:59.240 I think they're far older, and they they definitely look 300 00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:02.720 like they could have been moved or put into place 301 00:24:02.759 --> 00:24:06.920 by someone who is beyond just a normal sized person. 302 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:10.480 They look like they could be brought in by a giant. 303 00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:16.359 And they have statues and I and and and there's 304 00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:21.359 been several documentaries which have shown these uh there's there's 305 00:24:21.519 --> 00:24:26.039 statues which depict these giant human beings and they not 306 00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:30.920 only have this aspect of being giants, they look very 307 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:33.519 similar to the depictions you see in the Middle East, 308 00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:38.359 not in Europe, but in Mesopotamia, you know, with the 309 00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:42.960 Ananachi in that and so they they're very provocative, uh 310 00:24:43.799 --> 00:24:47.119 works of art to depict these giant like humans. 311 00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:51.880 Yeah. I think something about Sardinia, which I haven't been 312 00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:57.759 to yet, is very sophisticated. Apparently there's belief that it 313 00:24:57.799 --> 00:25:04.200 was us a great deal of very sophisticated plumbing and waterways, 314 00:25:05.279 --> 00:25:11.039 and that is partially artificial, and no one really knows 315 00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:13.680 who built that. What do we know about that? 316 00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:17.599 Well, the interesting thing is is that they actually have 317 00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:24.400 fountains and cisterns and like you said, complete complete water 318 00:25:24.559 --> 00:25:30.440 rays and sanitary systems built into these structures. And they 319 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:35.640 go underground and when you get down there, there's wells 320 00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:41.039 and different areas for colding water and they look just 321 00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:48.960 like they were built yesterday with the same sophistication. They're clean, 322 00:25:50.799 --> 00:25:56.039 polished looking, but they date to three thousand BC. They're 323 00:25:56.160 --> 00:26:01.599 very old, and they definitely do not look at all 324 00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:06.960 like their three thousands of over three thousand years old 325 00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:07.559 for sure. 326 00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:12.440 Right. I didn't get to the section of your book 327 00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:18.119 on specifics of Sardinia, But are there tombs known, tombs 328 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:23.079 that are unusually large? I mean, I'd love to hear 329 00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:27.759 about skeletal remains, but it's very unlikely that anything is published, 330 00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:31.880 simply because of the editing that's going on in historical editing. 331 00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:36.759 You know, the sad thing is there's so much a 332 00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:41.279 lack of what we would call the smoking gum, being 333 00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:48.079 the skeletal remains. Everybody wants to see the skeletal remains, 334 00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:52.839 and there's reports of skeletal remains, but to actually have 335 00:26:53.039 --> 00:27:00.240 them in your hand is rare. And but the other 336 00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:06.440 aspect of the evidence is there is a overwhelming amount 337 00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:13.519 of evidence in the historical and oral traditions talking about giants, 338 00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:16.519 you know that we did have them, that they were 339 00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:19.880 present on the earth, because they're not only in mythology, 340 00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:24.839 they're in recent modern historical reports, you know, like from 341 00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:28.519 the nineteenth century in North America and even in our 342 00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:33.640 own recent decades, we have reports of giants being found 343 00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:38.160 and then they hit the news and then within a 344 00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:42.880 matter of weeks there's dead silence on them, like there's 345 00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:48.160 a cover up. So we get this information coming in 346 00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:51.200 and then it goes away, you know. And but we 347 00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:55.480 see that with the UFO phenomenon as well. We almost 348 00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:57.880 get to it, and in every time we almost have 349 00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:04.279 that essence of disclosure, we don't. And that's really the 350 00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:07.720 frustrating aspect of this whole research. 351 00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:12.119 Yeah, I can imagine one thing that I'd like to 352 00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:15.599 hear a little bit more from you about is the 353 00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:18.799 science of the giants. That'd be a book right there, 354 00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:22.160 Science of the ancient Giants. It seems like there is 355 00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:29.000 more of an earth bound paradigm where they are using gravity, 356 00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:34.200 they're using talleric fields. And specifically, I'd love to learn 357 00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:38.160 a little bit more about the hypogem that's in Malta. 358 00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:40.839 I haven't had a chance to go there, but you 359 00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:46.039 have a whole section on temple tech talk about that. 360 00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:52.279 Well. It's just amazing. First of all, I don't believe 361 00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:57.359 that the temples of Malta are only like five thousand 362 00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:00.720 years old. I think they're far older. Think they're more 363 00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:07.000 contemporaneous with structures like go Beckley Teppe and Carrahan Teppe. 364 00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:10.480 I think that as far as how old they are 365 00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:14.519 there more like that, I think they're not dated properly. 366 00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:18.640 On the other hand, I mean just the fact that 367 00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:24.039 when you go into certain like the Hypogeum, the residents there, 368 00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:30.079 how it echoes, how it modifies sound, and the fact 369 00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:34.640 that when you go to these temples, you know, if 370 00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:38.359 you bring a compass into one of these structures, the 371 00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:44.880 compass goes wild. It's definitely God an electromagnetic residence, and 372 00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:50.960 it's God. I mean these if you imagine this, these 373 00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:54.960 structures were just carved right out of solid rock, and 374 00:29:55.000 --> 00:30:03.359 it's amazing the sophistication that went in to them. I'm 375 00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:08.200 not an expert on exactly how they were created, only 376 00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:11.839 that I talked a little bit about some of the 377 00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:18.680 research done early on in the nineteenth century and talked 378 00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:23.079 a little bit about some of the findings in the Hypogem, 379 00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:30.480 which included elongated skulls, and that was one of the 380 00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:35.599 most notable finds in the Hypogeum, that these skulls were present. 381 00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:39.319 And then like the skulls in Prague, they were not 382 00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:44.440 due to cranial deformation like the skulls in progress. They 383 00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:48.880 had no saginal future, which is the ridge that goes, 384 00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:56.599 you know, in across the head, and so yeah, they 385 00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:00.759 were definitely bored in that way. 386 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:06.240 We're going to take a short commercial break to allow 387 00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:10.640 our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return with 388 00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:17.039 my guest today, author research investigator Patrick Schnard, presenting his 389 00:31:17.200 --> 00:32:02.240 new book Giants of Atlantis, will be right back. My 390 00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:06.640 guess today is research investigator author Patrick Schnard. He has 391 00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:10.000 written a new book called Giants of Atlantis is a 392 00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:16.200 look at very large humans living through prehistory and following 393 00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:24.279 the Great Catastrophe, those that survived the floods. So there 394 00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:29.200 was a long headed race that was ancient Malta. 395 00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:34.119 Yeah, and they were European in origin, just like the 396 00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:39.160 Parrakas goals. At least we know that half their lineage 397 00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:43.079 the one in Pracus, we're Europeans. We don't know what 398 00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:48.000 the male side of that was because there was kind 399 00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:53.599 of a degradation from the y chromosomes, so we don't 400 00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:58.559 know exactly where what where their male line came from. 401 00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:02.279