WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:01.600 Today, I want to tell you about a journey that 2 00:00:01.600 --> 00:00:03.879 I've been on for most of my life. Ever since 3 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:05.799 I was a kid, I've heard tales of bigfoot and 4 00:00:05.839 --> 00:00:08.320 wild men while spending time with my friends and family. 5 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:11.439 As I grew older and read more about the paranormal, 6 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:14.679 my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened. 7 00:00:15.240 --> 00:00:17.160 That's why I'm so excited to share with you what 8 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:21.640 I've personally become involved with the Untold Radio Network. The 9 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:25.280 Untold Radio Network is a live streaming podcast network that 10 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:29.359 airs a new show every day across all podcast platforms, YouTube, 11 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:32.119 and more. 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It's free to subscribe. 21 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:04.400 So what are you waiting for visit www dot untold 22 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:06.560 radionetwork dot com today. 23 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:09.680 Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going 24 00:01:09.719 --> 00:01:12.120 on here. Something just kid with my dog. Something to 25 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:15.280 kill your dog? My dog. We're flying through there over 26 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:20.079 the tree. I don't know how it did it? Okay, Damn, 27 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:22.640 I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming 28 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:24.480 over the fence and they would dead once you hit 29 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:26.560 the grill. I didn't see any cars. All I saw 30 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:45.120 was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what are 31 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:49.959 you reporting? We got some wonder or something crawling around 32 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:58.640 out here? Did you see what it was? It was 33 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:01.359 enough out here. Look, I'm new to the window now 34 00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:08.840 and I don't need anything. I don't want to go outside. Hello, 35 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:12.800 hit the buddy out here, quin on out there? I 36 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:15.319 thought of a bitch of about tex foot nine. I 37 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:19.800 don't know easy out there. Yeah, I'm walking right, heady A. 38 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:22.159 Welcome our guest back to the show. It is David 39 00:02:22.240 --> 00:02:25.759 from seeking Ontario's Bigfoot. Welcome back to the show. Man. 40 00:02:26.280 --> 00:02:28.840 Thanks for having me back, Brian. I appreciate it. Good 41 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:29.080 to hear. 42 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:30.879 I am glad to have you man. I have been 43 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:33.039 looking forward to this conversation. I had a blast the 44 00:02:33.120 --> 00:02:36.039 last time you were on. I have been north of 45 00:02:36.080 --> 00:02:40.199 the border looking for bigfoot, not in the Ontario area, 46 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:43.080 but in another part of Canada, over in BC Canada. 47 00:02:43.479 --> 00:02:46.080 So I'm always intrigued with anything north of the border. 48 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:48.719 I have featured a guy from Alaska on the show 49 00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:52.520 many times who was in that general vicinity, who has 50 00:02:52.719 --> 00:02:56.280 shared some really compelling and really interesting stories about bigfoots. 51 00:02:56.319 --> 00:02:59.000 Always look forward to listening to anything north of the border. 52 00:02:59.080 --> 00:03:01.439 Let's get right into it. Since you were on last time, 53 00:03:01.479 --> 00:03:03.759 we talked about a ton of things. What's been going 54 00:03:03.759 --> 00:03:06.199 on was seeking Ontario's Bigfoot. What have you guys been 55 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:08.560 into and what are the intriguing cases that you've been 56 00:03:08.599 --> 00:03:09.319 following up on. 57 00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:14.240 Well, we're continuing to work to primary research areas. We've 58 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:17.680 established a new site in Central Ontarios, a little bit 59 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:20.919 further to the east of where we're based out of. 60 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:25.159 We were contacted by a property owner there who had 61 00:03:25.240 --> 00:03:29.159 owned a small self sustaining farm, A very interesting guy 62 00:03:29.199 --> 00:03:32.360 who lives off a grid, was raising his own livestock, 63 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:35.879 cultivating his own crops and stuff, literally living off grid, 64 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:38.919 no external electricity, so I was running everything off of 65 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:42.240 us solar and wind power. He reached out to us 66 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:47.080 about two and a half years ago because at that time, 67 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:50.240 when he had a fairly large amount of pigs on site, 68 00:03:50.280 --> 00:03:55.520 he had gone out and witnessed a sasquatch basically come 69 00:03:55.759 --> 00:04:00.400 raid his pen one evening in the fall, where literally 70 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:04.319 reached over, grabbed one of his hogs and trundled off 71 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:07.599 with it. Prior to that, he probably realized he may 72 00:04:07.599 --> 00:04:11.080 have attracted the animal during the post processing of the 73 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:13.639 pork and the slabby of the hogs, they were dumping 74 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:16.360 the guts and everything off the back side of the property. 75 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:19.399 His property is quite large. It's many acres. It is 76 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:22.240 connected to a vast corner of that Basically, if you 77 00:04:22.240 --> 00:04:25.560 were to head north off his property, there is a 78 00:04:25.600 --> 00:04:30.480 forested pathway that leads to probably one of the most 79 00:04:31.240 --> 00:04:34.680 squatchiest areas of Ventura, near the Algonquin region. So that 80 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:37.160 whole area is just inundated with fastmouts of park land 81 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:39.920 and cottages and stuff. But it's very wild, it's a 82 00:04:39.959 --> 00:04:42.839 very well country. He figures he probably attracted it to 83 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:45.319 the property by feeding it. Now there seems to be 84 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:49.079 a family unit living on site with a secondary He 85 00:04:49.160 --> 00:04:51.800 suspects a female and a juvenile. He's seen all three 86 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:57.199 of them on occasion together. He stopped feeding, he's stopped 87 00:04:57.279 --> 00:04:59.959 dumping the animal refuse off the backside of his property. 88 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:03.959 But the animals taking up residence, it hasn't shown any well, 89 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:06.480 I shouldn't say it hasn't shown any overt aggression because 90 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:09.240 on occasion it has. The gentleman knows the property has 91 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:11.800 two adult sons that are living on site as well. 92 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:16.000 They're both avid hunters. They'll hunt on the property for deer, 93 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:19.680 for turkeys or rabbits, whatever is there. We've also captured 94 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:23.759 other large predators. We've captured a huge black wolf on 95 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:26.279 the property on a trail camera and a massive black 96 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:29.000 bear with sows. Obviously there's a lot of food there. 97 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:32.120 It has a trailer towards the back end of the 98 00:05:32.120 --> 00:05:34.959 property that he likes to spend climate. When he'd been 99 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:38.000 out there in his trailer in a couple evenings, he'd 100 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:40.560 had the animal come up and bang on his trailer 101 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:42.480 really hard and shake it. That didn't really phase them 102 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:44.600 too much, as this guy is a pretty hardcore outdoorsman. 103 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:47.959 It takes a lot to phase this guy. But the 104 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:50.920 one time he was out looking for new game, trails 105 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:53.720 on the furtherest portion of the property. We had a 106 00:05:53.759 --> 00:05:57.439 massive log come basically off the right side of the 107 00:05:57.519 --> 00:06:00.439 trail and just about blindsided him in the head. So 108 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:04.399 it was a big large he's guessing the log probably 109 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:06.079 must have wagh close to one hundred pounds and it 110 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:10.800 just missed him. Now, this guy is not wanting to 111 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:12.959 go on that part of the property at all anymore. 112 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:16.959 Our group this fall is planning on doing an armed 113 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:21.759 excursion into that area to further the property, because apparently 114 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:25.199 there's a big swamp towards the backside of the property there. 115 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:26.639 We want to go and see if we can find 116 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:29.439 out where it's living, find signers of the animal. Apparently 117 00:06:29.480 --> 00:06:31.759 there's an area around there called the Warsaw Caves, which 118 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:34.279 are not far from there as well. We're not sure 119 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:36.160 if they're residing in the caves and coming down on 120 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:39.120 the property, or if they had built some sort of 121 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:42.079 site on the property itself. But these are the kinds 122 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:44.079 of questions that we're going to continue to try to 123 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:46.600 answer on this property. We've had no luck with trail 124 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:49.199 cameras there, we've had no luck with the audio recorders, 125 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:52.879 So right now we're in another thought process in terms 126 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:55.639 of what's going to be the next step, what's going 127 00:06:55.680 --> 00:06:58.240 to be the next approach. Like a lot of other researchers, 128 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:01.480 for whatever reason, Watch don't seem to be bothered at 129 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:04.600 all by audio recording devices, and I think, honestly that's 130 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:06.759 some of the best evidence we can get. We've captured 131 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:09.720 some pretty remarkable audio, not on that site, but at 132 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:13.199 other locations. After viewing it in audacity and taking a 133 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:15.439 look at the signatures of the sound and stuff, it's 134 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:19.360 very unlikely that it's anything other than the animal that 135 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:22.839 we speak of. But cameras are absolutely the kiss of 136 00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:26.279 death for whatever reason, maybe it's their ability to detect infrared, whatever, 137 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:28.920 But as soon as cameras are installed, the activity just 138 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:31.839 drops right off. So we're now going to be pulling 139 00:07:31.839 --> 00:07:33.519 back from the cameras and trying to think of some 140 00:07:33.560 --> 00:07:37.000 more inventive ways. We want to build some biotraps. We 141 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:39.399 want to be able to see if we can perhaps 142 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:44.240 get a tissue sample or some DNA samples via some 143 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:48.680 biological foot traps, or maybe even like a barbed wire 144 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:50.600 trap that a lot of them and our people use 145 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:52.720 for bears and stuff like that, where you just wrap 146 00:07:52.720 --> 00:07:54.319 it around a tree put some bait on it. So 147 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:57.519 we're brainstorming a lot right now because concerning the amount 148 00:07:57.519 --> 00:08:00.399 of time we've had cameras are and stuff, it doesn't 149 00:08:00.399 --> 00:08:02.920 seem to be paying off yet. The property owners are 150 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:07.759 still witnessing the animal on site. Back in late June, 151 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:10.240 him and his wife were sitting on the back porch. 152 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:14.639 They were looking out past basically past where little garden 153 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:16.800 plot was and stuff, just looking off into the distance. 154 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:19.480 He had a flashlight with him because he was out 155 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:21.279 there looking for one of his dogs and he was 156 00:08:21.319 --> 00:08:25.319 just shining it around. He shot it up just outside 157 00:08:25.319 --> 00:08:29.160 the tree line. There were three sets of bright red 158 00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:34.919 eyes looking back that though. He said the dominant suspected 159 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:38.399 male he figures was probably around ten feet tall, the 160 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:41.039 other adult he was estimated aro seven and a half 161 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:44.320 to eight feet, and there was a juvenile that he 162 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:49.519 best approximated around five feet. So they're not overtly threatening 163 00:08:49.519 --> 00:08:52.759 the family and everything like that, but they're still partaking 164 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:55.279 in like baying sessions on the house and on the 165 00:08:55.320 --> 00:08:58.080 trailer and stuff like that. That incident with the logs thrown, 166 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:00.480 it was pretty innerving for the sun to go up 167 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:02.679 there this fall and try to sess the propery out 168 00:09:02.679 --> 00:09:04.759 further apps to see if we can get some biological 169 00:09:04.799 --> 00:09:09.480 samples to further determine what's on site there. Our property 170 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:13.320 down in Pennsylvania is also having a ramp up in activity. 171 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:18.000 The homeowners there have a trail rud in their front driveway. 172 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:21.960 They had recently discovered a handprint and knuckle prints the 173 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:24.679 top one to other trailer where the sleeping cap is, 174 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:26.679 which is probably room eight and a half feet off 175 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:29.440 the ground. We have good pictures of that and you 176 00:09:29.480 --> 00:09:34.519 can actually see the dermal ridges in the print itself. 177 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:37.840 They do not conform to the typical pattern that you'd 178 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:40.480 see in a human hand. The ridge lines run in 179 00:09:40.559 --> 00:09:43.039 complete opposition as to how we do in a human hand. 180 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:47.279 We had a follow up photograph sent by the homeowners 181 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:52.399 where the residual animal that we suspect is still living 182 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:56.320 on that property was captured via a camera looking outside 183 00:09:56.320 --> 00:09:57.919 and one of the bedrooms at the house where this 184 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:02.159 animals standing on the front porch looking in towards the house, 185 00:10:02.279 --> 00:10:05.879 which this thing seems to do frequently. Our researcher General 186 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:08.600 Paul's alive down there and do a stand in the 187 00:10:08.639 --> 00:10:11.559 exact same spot where this animal was standing on the brand, 188 00:10:12.279 --> 00:10:16.440 it completely eclipses them. He's a big X military guy 189 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:20.320 if he's sixty six two in a hause. Whatever this 190 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:23.679 is standing in the porch looking in towards the house. 191 00:10:23.759 --> 00:10:25.759 I think it was probably attracted by the Christmas lights 192 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:28.639 that they had hanging off the awning. It just doesn't 193 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:31.320 seem to be very conscientious about its presence there. I 194 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:33.120 think it's just a matter of time before we get 195 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:37.120 an even better capture of this animal. Even then, as 196 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:40.279 we know these days, pictures are pretty limited in terms 197 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:44.200 of value. So those are the two primary research sites 198 00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:48.240 that we're working on. I'm really encouraging the adaptation and 199 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:52.480 incorporation of more technology. Right now, we're trying to work 200 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:54.799 through a process where we're going to be able to 201 00:10:54.799 --> 00:11:00.799 get basically a mobile Gois app installed on every member's phone. 202 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:04.240 Where I've already gone ahead and created the attribute table 203 00:11:04.600 --> 00:11:08.000 schema where when the researchers are out in the field, 204 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:12.559 they'll be able to map the coordinates of whatever they 205 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:17.519 come across, be they structures, footprints, which are still infrequently 206 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:22.399 find footprints, but it does happen on occasion, structures, breaks, twists, 207 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:27.440 anything of high suspicion. It will allow us input data 208 00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:32.440 in terms of directional orientation, the height, the size, so 209 00:11:32.480 --> 00:11:35.600 we could populate these tables with whatever information that we 210 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:38.320 want to collect. Basically, what we're we want to do 211 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:40.759 is we want to off cloaw this data. I've started 212 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:44.080 incorporating it into a digital mapping platform. I know there's 213 00:11:44.120 --> 00:11:48.360 the Big Foot Mapping Project, which basically he's doing exactly 214 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:50.799 the same thing, but he's incorporating a lot more data 215 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:52.679 than we are. We're just trying to make use of 216 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:55.120 the stuff that we're finding locally, and it's a very 217 00:11:55.159 --> 00:11:57.679 good way of hopefully being able to create some sort 218 00:11:57.679 --> 00:12:01.600 of predictive model. My background dream school was innur sciences 219 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:04.600 and geomatics. I know how to leverage that technology, and 220 00:12:04.600 --> 00:12:06.840 I'd really like to leverage that because I do think 221 00:12:06.840 --> 00:12:10.440 there are answers to be found if we're just able 222 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:13.399 to drill down and get enough data samples, collect the 223 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:15.799 right kind of data to be able to put forward 224 00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:19.720 the right questions where hopefully some answers will come to 225 00:12:19.720 --> 00:12:22.440 fruition and hopefully we can actually say with some sort 226 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:25.679 of confidence that based on this time of year, based 227 00:12:25.679 --> 00:12:28.440 on the patterns of torol and sightings that we've had 228 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:30.960 to pass five to you know, five to ten years, 229 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:33.440 maybe we can have the best estimate in terms of 230 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:35.799 where we can expect to having an encounter. Yeah, we've 231 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:39.120 been doing that. We've also been making use a lot 232 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:41.480 of analog data. One of our researchers was able to 233 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:44.960 locate some very good paper maps of free crops and 234 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:47.360 tender free crops of core and growth and stuff, and 235 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:51.480 when we were overlaying these on top of the locations 236 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:54.840 of where the sightings were, it was so relatable, so 237 00:12:55.080 --> 00:12:59.600 obvious that it literally just popped off. So now we're 238 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:02.480 really costing and timing, like when the corn comes to fruition, 239 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:05.320 to be in that area, to be in those areas 240 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:08.480 that have the best access to the corn crops, having 241 00:13:08.480 --> 00:13:11.360 the best access and best habitat, and then putting yourselves 242 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:13.360 in those locations at the best time of year. And 243 00:13:13.399 --> 00:13:15.279 I think that's going to ultimately give us our best 244 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:16.279 chance of success. 245 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:16.919 Yeah. 246 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:18.639 I love the fact that you guys are doing some 247 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:22.039 of that stuff. Because Scott over at the Bigfoot Mapping Project, 248 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:24.720 I've praised him numerous times. Scott's been on the show 249 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:27.679 a couple of times, and we've had conversations about getting 250 00:13:27.720 --> 00:13:31.440 the data being able to map out. Like you said, 251 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:34.799 some of these areas that overlap, I call them these 252 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:39.279 edges that we create as people. We're going further and 253 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:43.519 further into what would be considered bigfoot sasquatch habitat, and 254 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:45.799 these edges that we create. A lot of people say 255 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:50.320 we're destroying their habitat, but we're really introducing things like 256 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:55.960 corn and other agricultural areas that other animals take advantage 257 00:13:56.000 --> 00:14:00.399 of it. I think overall, in the big scheme of things, yeah, 258 00:14:00.440 --> 00:14:04.240 we're pretty destructive as human beings in general, but we 259 00:14:04.279 --> 00:14:08.679 are creating these edges where we're planting corn, we're planning 260 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:12.480 other agriculture, and animals take advantage of that. I think that, 261 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:16.000 as you said, if you do this overlay of sidings 262 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:19.600 versus where these edges are created with agriculture corn growth, 263 00:14:19.679 --> 00:14:23.840 that sask what sidings sometimes increase in those areas, and 264 00:14:23.879 --> 00:14:27.440 there's certainly sidings that are in the historical data. It's 265 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:29.679 one of the most important and impactful things that we 266 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:32.919 can do as researchers is look at all the data. 267 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:35.080 I say it all the time about this show just 268 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:41.559 taking everybody's anecdotal experiences and acting as a repository. We 269 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:44.200 can go back five, ten, fifteen years and look at 270 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:47.679 what people are experiencing back then versus what they're experiencing 271 00:14:47.720 --> 00:14:50.320 now where they're having these encounters and those kind of things. 272 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:52.960 Kudos to you guys for doing the kind of work 273 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:55.759 that you guys are doing. Scott was a trailblazer in 274 00:14:55.799 --> 00:14:57.600 my opinion and doing some of the things that he 275 00:14:57.639 --> 00:14:59.840 has done over the years, and other people are picking 276 00:14:59.919 --> 00:15:02.360 up that gauntlet and continuing to do it. You guys 277 00:15:02.399 --> 00:15:04.639 are doing it north of the border, so kudos to 278 00:15:04.679 --> 00:15:06.320 you for doing that. I want to go back a 279 00:15:06.360 --> 00:15:08.799 little bit to this off grid guy, this property that 280 00:15:08.879 --> 00:15:11.399 you were talking about in the beginning, some of the 281 00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:14.320 things that he experienced there. I think there's so many 282 00:15:15.159 --> 00:15:19.759 I talk to people who have habituation sites. They're purposely 283 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:23.840 habituating these animals. In some cases, it sounds like to me, 284 00:15:23.960 --> 00:15:27.480 you have an inadvertent habituation situation. This guy's just trying 285 00:15:27.480 --> 00:15:30.159 to raise pigs. He's slaughtering these animals, he's selling them, 286 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:33.000 he's making a living, and he's dumping these entrails and 287 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:36.440 this refuse out in this area. It sounds like to me, 288 00:15:36.879 --> 00:15:39.440 very much like you said, these things are realizing this 289 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:41.639 is a free meal ticket. They come in, they start 290 00:15:41.639 --> 00:15:45.720 eating this stuff. Then you have these I know you 291 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:48.679 said a couple of times, maybe not necessarily what people 292 00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:52.120 would consider to be aggressive behavior, but if you're chunking 293 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:55.879 one hundred pounds log at somebody in close proximity, that 294 00:15:56.039 --> 00:15:58.879 to me is aggressive. It really comes to mind to 295 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:03.919 me how many people have possibly been in these situations 296 00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:06.960 and maybe not even known or realized what was going 297 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:11.320 on as far as habituating these animals in some way, shape, form, 298 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:14.440 or fashion and not even knowing about it. They're dumping food, 299 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:18.919 they're dumping entrails. Even deer hunters who clean their keels 300 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:21.440 and do what they do and process near their homes 301 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:26.240 are in these situations. Is this isolated for you, guys, 302 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:28.519 or have you had other situations that you guys have 303 00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:30.720 investigated that people have reached out to you and said, 304 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:33.679 I'm having this go on my property and it's a 305 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:38.080 possible inadvertent habituation situation of these creatures. 306 00:16:38.279 --> 00:16:40.399 It was the first actual outing I'd been on with 307 00:16:40.519 --> 00:16:43.120 I know I'd mentioned his name in the previous episode. 308 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:46.559 Mister Peter Smith, who was a very excellent advisor and 309 00:16:46.600 --> 00:16:50.080 mentored in me very early on. He's still very active 310 00:16:50.120 --> 00:16:53.080 in the Anterio, Bigfoot and sasquatched scenup PERI. He's a 311 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:57.559 relentless researcher. I think he eventually is going to have 312 00:16:58.039 --> 00:17:02.039 many answers for a lot of us. I was vacationing 313 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:04.559 outside of a town called Fundsville, Ontario, which is essentially 314 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:07.160 located in the Muskoka region. It's a really popular area, 315 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:10.000 especially with urban nights from Toronto who go up there 316 00:17:10.119 --> 00:17:13.880 to vacation because has lots of glacially created lakes. It's 317 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:17.359 a very quiet, very peaceful, great access to a massive 318 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:19.480 provincial park. I just happened to be up there when 319 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:22.599 he reached out to me a via phone and said, Hey, 320 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:24.440 would you like to come down and visit this property 321 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:26.319 with me. They're about half an hour from where you're 322 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:28.839 at right now, and planning on going down there, having 323 00:17:28.880 --> 00:17:31.160 a look around the property and doing an overnight vigil. 324 00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:34.400 They have some very interesting information to relate to us 325 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:37.160 if you're interested in coming own. I'm like, absolutely for sure. 326 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:40.000 This is the first time I had been able to 327 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:43.680 sit down with real experience researcher and it was just 328 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:48.039 revelatory for me. We pulled up this very nice family, 329 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:51.559 husband and wife, two young kids, who are living in 330 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:55.400 this marine system, pretty far off the main highway, close 331 00:17:55.480 --> 00:18:00.200 proximity to actually a very popular, very expensive resort. I 332 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:02.319 would say, probably about a fifteen minute walk from there. 333 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:05.359 That being said, they'd been living on a property for 334 00:18:05.440 --> 00:18:07.839 but twenty five years, and all had been quiet up 335 00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:11.359 until about a year before we did our on site visit. 336 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:14.519 He was explaining to us that they're across the street 337 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:17.960 on the other side of their access road, a new 338 00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:21.880 subdivision was being built and there was a mass colling 339 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:25.599 of that whole person area up there. Anything's what happened 340 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:28.759 is that clear those animals out. Those animals were basically 341 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:31.480 made homeless by the clear cutting at the top of 342 00:18:31.480 --> 00:18:33.920 the hill, and they came down to his property and 343 00:18:33.960 --> 00:18:36.799 they had been on site there for the past year. 344 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:42.200 It all started with sightings by the youngest child, who's 345 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:44.759 a young daughter, around nine years old, and she kept 346 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:50.920 talking about seeing this small harry kind of she didn't 347 00:18:50.920 --> 00:18:52.960 really know what to call it. She just described it 348 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:55.319 as best she could. She had seen the thing kind 349 00:18:55.319 --> 00:18:59.279 of peeking in watching her, and their backyard was really long. 350 00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:02.119 It kind of the property just dropped off into this 351 00:19:02.200 --> 00:19:04.160 valley system and there was a big hydro cut back 352 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:06.680 there too, but it was still surrounded by forest. This 353 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:10.319 animal had been interacting with her for a little while, 354 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:12.799 and she was telling us to the parents, and the 355 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:15.640 parents were like, Okay, maybe's imaginary friend or something, right, 356 00:19:15.759 --> 00:19:18.559 something like that along those line. Anyways, they were all 357 00:19:19.160 --> 00:19:22.720 sitting out. They had a fire pit right at the 358 00:19:22.759 --> 00:19:25.839 back edge of their backyard, right before it drops down 359 00:19:25.880 --> 00:19:29.000 in the ravine, nice little wooden deck there. They had 360 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:32.799 an overhang there to stop them from getting wet when 361 00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:35.440 it rained whatever, and had some big beautiful trees right 362 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:40.079 on either side of that. As time progressed, small things 363 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:43.200 started showing up on their property. They're generally regarded as 364 00:19:43.279 --> 00:19:46.160 gifting items, or they're called gifting items. The wife would 365 00:19:46.160 --> 00:19:47.880 go out to her car in the driveway and there'd 366 00:19:47.920 --> 00:19:51.799 be a small hand woven look like a little dream catcher, 367 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:55.279 almost woven out of little twigs and stuff. And she 368 00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:58.279 was like just completely perplexed, right because their neighbors are 369 00:19:59.119 --> 00:20:01.240 really there's really no but he adjacent to their property 370 00:20:01.240 --> 00:20:03.480 and stuff like that. It wasn't like her childhood friend 371 00:20:03.559 --> 00:20:05.039 or something that came over and put it on the 372 00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:06.519 car and. 373 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:08.880 Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to sy Well be 374 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:11.240 right back. After these messages. 375 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:20.319 They'd also find deceased birds, but very finally placed. Not 376 00:20:20.519 --> 00:20:22.319 like it looked like it hit the car, and not 377 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:23.720 like it came in contact with the car, but it 378 00:20:23.759 --> 00:20:26.920 was just like, very peacefully laid out on the hood 379 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:29.200 of the car. There was a toy. It was a 380 00:20:29.200 --> 00:20:31.480 little toy tractor that was placed on the hood of 381 00:20:31.559 --> 00:20:35.839 a car. They found out a year later that toy 382 00:20:35.920 --> 00:20:38.880 actually belonged to a kid about half a mile down 383 00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:41.960 the road. But they reported that toy just went missing 384 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:44.759 one day. It's not the child didn't recall losing. It 385 00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:46.119 was just simply left out in the yard and one 386 00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:47.559 day it was gone. And then next thing you know, 387 00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:49.640 this thing showed up on the roof of the car. 388 00:20:49.799 --> 00:20:52.480 So I'm like, this is all very interesting, carmeless stuff, 389 00:20:52.599 --> 00:20:56.359 interesting coincidences. So we were sitting out there, we'd staked 390 00:20:56.359 --> 00:20:58.039 out the property. I had a really good look around. 391 00:20:58.039 --> 00:21:01.680 There were just a massive amount out of structures on 392 00:21:01.720 --> 00:21:04.599 the backside of that property, all kinds of true structures. 393 00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:07.359 I got there about six hours before Peter did, and 394 00:21:07.359 --> 00:21:09.640 he's just going to have a look around. That's the 395 00:21:09.680 --> 00:21:13.599 first time I really think I sensed infrasound because I 396 00:21:13.720 --> 00:21:15.799 had spent a lot of time in this area, in 397 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:17.599 the mouskoke Ca area when I was younger, because I 398 00:21:17.640 --> 00:21:19.920 worked out a resort there when I was in my 399 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:22.400 late teens, and I spent tons of time in the 400 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:24.799 woods by myself. I was never afraid of going into 401 00:21:24.799 --> 00:21:27.160