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Speaker 3: Welcome to Iron the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 3: I'm Steve Rivera and with me today is Dave Silver
Speaker 3: and on the other side of the screen is Juan One.
Speaker 3: How you doing even been better? But we're out here.
Speaker 3: It's cold here in this town. What's seventy two degrees?
Speaker 2: No, No, it's like twenty seven.
Speaker 3: Degrees, about sixty degrees. It's our winter. We get about
Speaker 3: ten days of this. Yeah, this is it. You should
Speaker 3: be happy. I'm happy with it. It's cold, but it's
Speaker 3: not really cool. You grew up in this hell. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: you're used to this.
Speaker 2: I've been here longer than you've been alive. Yeah, ten
Speaker 2: days is pretty accurate.
Speaker 3: Twelve on the leap years or whatever, right, right, But
Speaker 3: you know when it gets cold, it's it's the golf tournament.
Speaker 2: In fact, it's late late February.
Speaker 4: Early remember years ago, there was a nice little snowstorm
Speaker 4: when they played that gallery. This has got to be
Speaker 4: you know, early two thousands. Yeah, and yeah, they had
Speaker 4: to have pis. Players were having snowball fights out there,
Speaker 4: So that was like late February right.
Speaker 2: Around the road.
Speaker 3: We see that ago. But yeah, you're probably right. Yeah
Speaker 3: it was picturesque, I mean very beautiful.
Speaker 4: Yes, freezing though, especially his spectators and his media folks.
Speaker 4: We have to run out there on the golf course. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and it was cold, right, Yeah, this is child's play
Speaker 4: compared to that. But it's it's cold everywhere else. This
Speaker 4: is why you're sure, that's why the snowbirds are here. Yep,
Speaker 4: snowbirds are here having fun. Hey, you were tying real
Speaker 4: quick the day before we went on the air. Is uh,
Speaker 4: last night, you ain't look good? They did well? Why
Speaker 4: do you think well? And be realistic. Oklahoma State wasn't
Speaker 4: too good.
Speaker 3: They were good, and they weren't that great, but it
Speaker 3: was nice to see her was on a play up
Speaker 3: to the level that they can play, right. I think
Speaker 3: two guys to two guys kind of surprised me. At
Speaker 3: least it was part of my story. Caleb Love, he's
Speaker 3: been refound at least for the moment.
Speaker 2: For a game.
Speaker 3: And what about the other guy, Tray Tray, I mean,
Speaker 3: that was his best game since he's been here by far.
Speaker 4: By far he was. You could tell he'd been frustrated.
Speaker 4: He wasn't playing all that well. People expected more from him.
Speaker 4: I think coming in everyone heard all the stories about
Speaker 4: him last during the year, during the y A Tournament,
Speaker 4: and you know, hadn't been doing all that much. It
Speaker 4: was usually one of the first guys that they would they
Speaker 4: would bench during the game.
Speaker 5: But yeah, nineteen points, seven for eight shooting.
Speaker 2: And he even admitted in.
Speaker 3: The post postgame press conference that you know, I hadn't
Speaker 3: been playing up to my expectations and people thought more
Speaker 3: of me, and here I am.
Speaker 4: Yeah, nineteen points twenty minutes. So he didn't really play
Speaker 4: all that much. But when he was out there, he
Speaker 4: was in trouble early. Oh it's Alady had two fouls
Speaker 4: right off the bat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like in the first couple of minutes. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you believe this.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if I believe this, but him and
Speaker 3: a Walker are kind of bulls in the china shop. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but they need that kind of stuff. If previous was there,
Speaker 3: it'd be different too, But but yeah, they it's how
Speaker 3: they play.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's not a lot of grace, you know, no
Speaker 4: it's pretty much just barrel in. Try to get, you know,
Speaker 4: try to work your way, you know, to the boards
Speaker 4: and pick up some garbage buckets if you can.
Speaker 5: Townsend has some good moves though. In a lane he
Speaker 5: does tries.
Speaker 4: He's got that good, little short, little flip jumper from
Speaker 4: about six feet out that sure makes half the time.
Speaker 3: And he bowls his way into the lane where you
Speaker 3: can get you know, that lay up.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say he knows how he gets to the bucket.
Speaker 6: He knows how to get his own basket on his own.
Speaker 6: And do you find it the same thing as me?
Speaker 6: That where the first possession. It looks like they go
Speaker 6: to him to score right away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, underneath one of the two. They usually go inside.
Speaker 3: They're gonna need them, obviously. I'm not sure how good
Speaker 3: this team is. That's the mystery of the whole thing,
Speaker 3: because it's.
Speaker 2: Not any better than it. It's not.
Speaker 3: This is probably the worst of his four that he's
Speaker 3: at here. Oh yeah, but but you think that if
Speaker 3: they could catch fire, and right there, that whole sentence
Speaker 3: is screwy. If they can catch fire, right, they can
Speaker 3: have a couple of wins in the tournament.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's It's always kind of been the story around here.
Speaker 4: Sometimes sometimes the fire flickers out before they get past
Speaker 4: that first weekend. But I mean, you know, yesterday was
Speaker 4: kind of fun, just in terms of guys did play minutes.
Speaker 4: I mean, kJ played twenty nine off the off the bench.
Speaker 4: Brian Crater, Brian played twenty one minutes off the bench,
Speaker 4: you know, so he's really spreading things out.
Speaker 2: Del also didn't play all that much.
Speaker 6: Someone someone I was surprised by was Emanuel Stephan nine minutes.
Speaker 2: Yes, you could tell you look like he was just
Speaker 2: out there. Yes, am I on the right Bill, That's
Speaker 2: the first thing I noticed.
Speaker 3: He was like just all over scattered. But but they
Speaker 3: needed those minutes, yep, so you know there were and
Speaker 3: he even talked Tommy talked about it at the end
Speaker 3: of the end of the game. But you're right, David,
Speaker 3: I saw the same thing. It was like where do
Speaker 3: I go?
Speaker 2: What do I do? Where I go? What do I do?
Speaker 3: But but if you if you can fill those that time,
Speaker 3: giving the other guys a chance to say that's fine.
Speaker 2: Rebounds, no turnovers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know he didn't take it. Did he take
Speaker 4: a shot? He might have taken one. I didn't even
Speaker 4: take a shot. So he knows his purpose.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he knows he's not gonna right and all equality
Speaker 3: aside where previous is out and they need him. He
Speaker 3: he he wanted to play, and he says, I understand
Speaker 3: the situation. Yeah, I mean, I playing a whole lot,
Speaker 3: but I but I'd rather play than than not play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or you know, ruined the road Richard, Well, I.
Speaker 4: Mean I think you know, the coaching staff probably turned
Speaker 4: to him and said, listen, you can contribute here, you
Speaker 4: can play. You're not going to just come in at
Speaker 4: the end of the game and you know, play thirty seconds.
Speaker 4: He winds up playing almost ten minutes. Sure they needed
Speaker 4: him and just to fill you know, the slot. Give
Speaker 4: some guys a blow, right, right, Same with same with Martinez.
Speaker 4: You know, he came in late. His situation is really
Speaker 4: strange with me.
Speaker 3: I know that he'll probably get a shot here in
Speaker 3: the next two or three years, right, two years, but
Speaker 3: he's got no shot now because temmy he's going with eight, right,
Speaker 3: and Martinez is nine, and it's a tough nine, and
Speaker 3: then Stevens is ten.
Speaker 2: I think, right.
Speaker 5: It was also good to see Henry kind of come back.
Speaker 4: He'd not been playing too well the last couple of
Speaker 4: games and even so good, and then he just looked
Speaker 4: terrible against Texas Tech. And then he looked more like
Speaker 4: Henry last night. So it was good to see that.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the whole thing, Dave.
Speaker 3: I think that if you catch lightning in a bottle
Speaker 3: and you have to do it six straight times in March, right,
Speaker 3: you have to catch it. And there was one who
Speaker 3: did that in ninety seven, and everybody holds it. But
Speaker 3: if you have Henry catching some lightning, you have Love
Speaker 3: catching some lightning. Townsend doing the same thing. And four
Speaker 3: of the seven or eight playing really really well, this
Speaker 3: team has a chance.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The thing is that's a lot to ask.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, they've won what eight of nine, and we.
Speaker 4: Need to look back maybe and see how especially you know,
Speaker 4: we kind of talked about Caleb, you know, kind of
Speaker 4: running the machine. But you know, let's look and see
Speaker 4: what he was doing over those nine games, and he
Speaker 4: had a few ups and downs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the ninth and I wrote this last night. If
Speaker 3: I can remember, I think he had five. I have
Speaker 3: in double figures.
Speaker 2: More than twenty. But the thing is, no one talks
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone talks about the other five points here, six
Speaker 3: points there, because if he's your star, what do you
Speaker 3: need to start to do?
Speaker 2: Be a star?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 4: But they're winning too, But they were winning, yeah, especially
Speaker 4: in this last stretch. But yeah, I mean very efficient
Speaker 4: last night, ten for seventeen, you know, four for nine
Speaker 4: from threes. I mean, you can't argue that was a
Speaker 4: great game for him.
Speaker 6: I think the flip side of the four or five
Speaker 6: games where he's twenty or double figures is those other
Speaker 6: five games are against top teams. Right, So there's a
Speaker 6: really large falloff between twenty points against in Oklahoma State, yeah,
Speaker 6: versus a six or against Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's where the frustration comes from the fans.
Speaker 3: Right, right, Well, and that's when you need to show, Righteah,
Speaker 3: and Dave, I've said this, and whether people agree with
Speaker 3: me or not, this is what I'll say. Over the
Speaker 3: last seven you said eight games that they've had a
Speaker 3: pretty nice stretch here. They really haven't played anybody worthy
Speaker 3: maybe Baylor at home, right, everything, And your boss Peterson
Speaker 3: wrote this before the Baylor game. They had played the
Speaker 3: weakest schedule the Big twelve to that point. Yeah, and hey,
Speaker 3: but the thing about it, it beats the alternative. They could
Speaker 3: have usually lost those games too, right, Yeah, and then
Speaker 3: you'd say what the hell is going on?
Speaker 2: And going into conference blay.
Speaker 6: A lot of people thought that, yeah, because they weren't
Speaker 6: playing well exactly.
Speaker 4: These next two weeks are gonna be fun though, with
Speaker 4: Iowa States and even Colorado coming and they've had some
Speaker 4: battles at school for there.
Speaker 6: Well, O seven, that's a dangerous owen know, Colorado in
Speaker 6: conference play.
Speaker 5: Give me the next so they have, So we go
Speaker 5: Colorado Saturday.
Speaker 3: Okay, Iowa State which is which is going to be
Speaker 3: the litmus test?
Speaker 2: Which one i State? I was staying the Monday night.
Speaker 3: It'll show what kind of crowd you can get. Who's
Speaker 3: after that?
Speaker 2: And after after they go to a s U okay,
Speaker 2: which which could be tough because they're playing fairly well.
Speaker 5: They won last night, yeah, and then at the YU right.
Speaker 3: After that, and then when Houston until February fifteenth, Okay,
Speaker 3: so this stretches. Then they play Houston. That's the next
Speaker 3: second best test, right yeah, Texas Tech at home? Yeah,
Speaker 3: between the Texas tim here, I mean I think they're
Speaker 3: gonna kill Texas Tech.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the road games though, you know, a s U
Speaker 4: Kansas State, Baylor all in the next month.
Speaker 3: I think is gonna give a heck of a game
Speaker 3: over there, probably beat them. Baylor's Baylor's pretty good, especially
Speaker 3: at home. Arizona just kind of they played really well
Speaker 3: in that first first half.
Speaker 2: So we'll see.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking about a win today, so that's
Speaker 3: a good thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the first things first.
Speaker 3: Right, right, you know, and Sir Tommy said, you know,
Speaker 3: we need this, We needed to play well after Saturday's game.
Speaker 3: It's kind of and guess what, people don't talk about
Speaker 3: the bad things, and they have been because once they lose,
Speaker 3: everything goes to hell. Everybody's free. The world is ending.
Speaker 3: Tommy needs to be fired, get rid of love, blah
Speaker 3: blah blah, the.
Speaker 4: World is I like the story I guess Bruce did
Speaker 4: in the in the Star about about the travel situation
Speaker 4: and you know, staying in some you know, not the
Speaker 4: greatest hotels in the world and not having room from
Speaker 4: and things are a little bit different than the Big
Speaker 4: twelve travel wise, and I mean the schedule itself, the
Speaker 4: way it sets up. I mean here there still on
Speaker 4: the road. I guess got home, you know, to crack
Speaker 4: at dawn, got to maybe go to class today. You know,
Speaker 4: it's it's a little bit different than it was back
Speaker 4: in the Pac twelve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question. And it's funny.
Speaker 3: I wonder how if that's the case, If that's the
Speaker 3: case of the conditions, I wonder how Loot would have
Speaker 3: handled it, because because you know this, you travel a little.
Speaker 3: I travel all the time. And they didn't. They didn't
Speaker 3: stay at easy no cheap hotels. No, they stayed at
Speaker 3: the best hotels. It would have been the same where
Speaker 3: we stayed. Well, we're Motel six, Bobby. No, we're not
Speaker 3: been to Stillwater though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is there Airbnb anywhere?
Speaker 5: I was in Stillwater?
Speaker 2: It was great.
Speaker 5: This is off subject, but one year.
Speaker 4: We had the chance to cover the women's softball team
Speaker 4: in Oklahoma City in May and at the exact same
Speaker 4: time baseball was playing in Stillwater. It was a really
Speaker 4: good u of a team. As one of Jerry Kendall's
Speaker 4: last year's and softball he did. We did this drive.
Speaker 4: It was like sixty five miles, not the most beautiful trip,
Speaker 4: but we did it. You know, we said we're going
Speaker 4: to try to cover both teams. So we made the
Speaker 4: drive to Stillwater.
Speaker 3: And it's twenty forty five fifty thousand people. That's what
Speaker 3: still Waters, what the radio show said last night. I'm thinking, really, okay,
Speaker 3: I didn't really know if there was a college town
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 4: There's trying to think of you. I didn't look, Matt Hollida.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think there's some great baseball Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: but there were some all these Hall of Fame, you know,
Speaker 4: the Oklahoma State Hall of Fame. So it's pretty in
Speaker 4: the sports school for that.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 3: Barry Sanders, that's funny you say I covered it when
Speaker 3: he was at Texas with the Rangers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a he was O s U. Big dude,
Speaker 2: big dude.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Arizona. That was another one of these bad losses.
Speaker 4: Again, I'm just digging back into my memory, but I
Speaker 4: remember going to Stillwater and it was a game that
Speaker 4: the UFA should have won, should have advanced the College
Speaker 4: World Series, and they lost in a regional and meantime,
Speaker 4: softball was probably winning that another national championship that same year.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's it's funny.
Speaker 3: Did you care at any because I covered Anthony and
Speaker 3: I covered the first Kendrea of two titles in ninety
Speaker 3: one ninety two. I think it was a couple of
Speaker 3: tornadoes warnings in.
Speaker 2: May in late May and Oklahoma. Yeah, Oklahoma. It'll be interesting.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't haven't looked at the softball schedule,
Speaker 4: but I wonder if they're gonna have to go play
Speaker 4: you know, I'm sure they're gonna play playing some games
Speaker 4: in the Midwest in April May before the tournament starts.
Speaker 4: So that'll be some challenging road trips possibly. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: good and baseball. Yeah, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 3: Uh. Today we have Eric Rhodes, Uh, former guest competitor
Speaker 3: of yours was he he was at the other.
Speaker 4: Seah, but you know, now I even think about it,
Speaker 4: he and I did some of those trips to the
Speaker 4: baseball and yeah, we had some baseball stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can talk about that, you can. You can
Speaker 2: talk about the good old days, the little days of
Speaker 2: doing that.
Speaker 3: And then were in the second that we're going to
Speaker 3: talk to Bob Elliott again. Last week we spoke to
Speaker 3: him before the doctor j uh presentation. Yeah, PALAVERTI so no,
Speaker 3: I just kind of wanted to talk to Bob about
Speaker 3: how it went. Uh, you know, the it took to
Speaker 3: put this thing together and just get his time, his
Speaker 3: thoughts on today's world of college basketball. I mean back
Speaker 3: in seventy five, seventy six when he played, how would
Speaker 3: have Nil worked back then?
Speaker 2: You know he would have been a star obviously. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he would have got a car.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he would have the accountant would have days they
Speaker 3: were getting stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh that's true.
Speaker 3: Did you in fact, did you read We Got to
Speaker 3: Go in about a minute?
Speaker 2: Did you read?
Speaker 3: And I happened to a friend of mine, David Cooper.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know who he is. He's
Speaker 3: a UA grad, worked in the Sad Office back in
Speaker 3: the day. He worked with the Senator Kyle. Senator Kyle
Speaker 3: is one of those guys. He popped up my Twitter
Speaker 3: feed the other day and I kind of went through
Speaker 3: his things and I because I don't really follow him,
Speaker 3: and he posted something on book. I guess it came
Speaker 3: out in one of the ringers, had you this story?
Speaker 2: I did not.
Speaker 3: What a fascinating story, and I missed it back. I
Speaker 3: must have missed it back in October. You should read it.
Speaker 3: They talked openly about what was done and how things
Speaker 3: were done before before and I yell, and before, but
Speaker 3: everyone kind of knew that Hey, Dave, what do you need?
Speaker 2: What can I get you?
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah, And it was like it was not
Speaker 3: an open secret anymore. It was like, this is what happened. Yeah,
Speaker 3: everybody knew what happened, but we're talking about it now
Speaker 3: before all the troubles, and I think, yeah, we kind
Speaker 3: of knew, but this is like really making a public right.
Speaker 4: There's been some books written, especially from the UCLA guys
Speaker 4: when Kareem wrote about you know true while Cindery Years
Speaker 4: and Sam Gilbert was their big benefactor there who was
Speaker 4: giving these guys things. And Bill Walton I think, talked
Speaker 4: about it. So there's always been there's guys behind the scenes.
Speaker 4: But now it's right up there, right now, it's in
Speaker 4: the public.
Speaker 2: Now it's legal as all hell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that's part of the problem is because there's
Speaker 3: still thoughts, many thoughts that it's still happening under the table.
Speaker 4: Why does it even have to Yeah, but it's I mean,
Speaker 4: as long as I guess there's like no regulation, it
Speaker 4: seems like I guess there's a half to They're talking
Speaker 4: about a salary cap with teams like Ohio State football team,
Speaker 4: you know, proving you know, you can win with a
Speaker 4: twenty million dollar and I.
Speaker 3: But you can also look at have you seen fifteen?
Speaker 2: We got to go? But once look at.
Speaker 3: North Carolina basketball. I'm sure they're getting paid a lot
Speaker 3: of money, they're not very good.
Speaker 2: Look at Arkansas. I mean, so there's there's extremes.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 3: You have good teams that get paid and good teams
Speaker 3: that just really stuck. Okay, let's go. We get hold
Speaker 3: of Eric ruds.
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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to my on the ball. Here a
Speaker 3: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve River. He's Day Silver.
Speaker 3: Now on the phone, we have Eric Road from the
Speaker 3: Snoop dogg Arizona Bowl.
Speaker 2: How are you doing, Eric, I'm great.
Speaker 16: How are you two doing? Yeah, that's quite a duo
Speaker 16: with you two on the air. There's some good stories there.
Speaker 3: Well, we'll get to some of those stories involving you
Speaker 3: and you think we have some of the same stories.
Speaker 17: You got to make you clean, Make you clean, Please.
Speaker 2: Make you clean.
Speaker 17: The first you're silver. Everything is clean, you know. In fact,
Speaker 17: I gave flavor of two C FOURD.
Speaker 16: Just the clean cut, the clean cut, not the age
Speaker 16: the green guy.
Speaker 3: I told them that last week. I said, Dave, Okay,
Speaker 3: let's get something great. You're You're a good dude. That's
Speaker 3: part of your problem.
Speaker 5: I think nice too nice for this.
Speaker 17: Sorry, that's a rough intro.
Speaker 7: See guy.
Speaker 3: So so, Eric, you you got a little perk yesterday
Speaker 3: or this weekend?
Speaker 2: Tell me about it.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 16: First of all, impressive connection, Steve. I didn't really tell
Speaker 16: many people I was in Atlanta, but I did get
Speaker 16: to represent the Snoop dogg Arizona Ble at the National
Speaker 16: Championship at the events around Atlanta. So it went out
Speaker 16: on Saturday, got to be in a bunch of rooms
Speaker 16: that probably didn't belong in, but was really fun to
Speaker 16: rebelbows with some big time folks, and then experienced the
Speaker 16: game on Monday night at the Mercedes fens Dome, which
Speaker 16: is an incredible stadium.
Speaker 7: I had not been there yet, but a wow.
Speaker 16: One of the amazing works of athletic art in our
Speaker 16: in our industry.
Speaker 3: I'm sure that one of the requirements were one of
Speaker 3: the requisitis to go on the trip was take a
Speaker 3: little notepad, see how they do things.
Speaker 2: If you did that at all.
Speaker 16: Oh one hundred percent. In fact, we had our staff
Speaker 16: meeting this morning and I was sending around pictures of
Speaker 16: things that I thought, you know, we could borrow. As
Speaker 16: we do in sports, it's always what they do well,
Speaker 16: what they didn't like. I mean, even down to I
Speaker 16: was texting our team about the length of halftime because
Speaker 16: you know, with an entertainer like Snoop, we always talked
Speaker 16: about how long halftime should be, and so you know,
Speaker 16: definitely taking notes the whole time. And so for sure
Speaker 16: in a little business in with a lot of pleasures.
Speaker 16: So it was cool to see you know, our sport
Speaker 16: and especially the bowl industry at its highest level, and
Speaker 16: see all the things they're doing and maybe some things
Speaker 16: that we're also doing, and certainly a lot we can
Speaker 16: learn from.
Speaker 4: What are the people saying about, you know, bowl games
Speaker 4: like the Tucson game and things like that, The way
Speaker 4: the bulls have been switched around with the college football
Speaker 4: playoffs and stuff like that, where games like ours are
Speaker 4: going to fit, say in the next ten years or so,
Speaker 4: are they giving you kind of a message on how
Speaker 4: that's going to play out?
Speaker 16: You know, certainly, there's just there's there's a lot of
Speaker 16: question marks, right Like one of the things we're very
Speaker 16: confident in is we've been forward thinking enough to do
Speaker 16: things that make our game a spectacle outside of a
Speaker 16: great football itself. And so certainly, with the way the
Speaker 16: college football landscape is changing, they're talking about adding even
Speaker 16: more to the playoffs in the next couple of years,
Speaker 16: and certainly, you know, Now, I was watching the college
Speaker 16: basketball game last night with a young man who's who's
Speaker 16: in his fourth school and it was like listed as
Speaker 16: a junior, so, you know, I'm not great at math,
Speaker 16: but that didn't really add up to me, you know,
Speaker 16: the Bulls itself is still really valuable because it gives
Speaker 16: young people and the positives of changing schools a chance
Speaker 16: to showcase themselves on a national audience where maybe they
Speaker 16: didn't get seen and in some of their normal group
Speaker 16: of five contests. But you know, now there's surmised because
Speaker 16: maybe somebody wanted to just see the Snoop dogg Arizonable
Speaker 16: and now they see a young man competing who maybe
Speaker 16: will get a look, you know, eventually maybe the Sunday.
Speaker 16: You know, there's there's one great thing about the the
Speaker 16: NFL Draft is it's how many guys you've never heard
Speaker 16: of from these schools that are O linement and you
Speaker 16: know the d Lineman. You know, they do these things
Speaker 16: on Sunday Night football. When they do their announcement, You're like, wait,
Speaker 16: what school, what where? So around about answering your question day,
Speaker 16: but they certainly are still really valid and as the
Speaker 16: playoff lands, you know, one of the things that came
Speaker 16: about this year is all four schools that hosted that
Speaker 16: first round quote unquote were all for semiitanalysts and so
Speaker 16: saying well, maybe that should be a bull a bull
Speaker 16: destination versus a home game, because maybe that gave some
Speaker 16: you know, those four schools a lot, a lot bigger
Speaker 16: hand in winning and success in the in the playoff system.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you up, I'm not sure many people
Speaker 3: knew who you were when you got there and when
Speaker 3: you're mingling, because you're you're not Kim and obviously you
Speaker 3: know she's more of a face than you are, and
Speaker 3: you win. But but if they when they did find
Speaker 3: out you were with the Arizona Ball, the Snoop Dogg
Speaker 3: Arizona Ball, I'm sure I'm not well, I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: I'm guessing that they said, hey, how did that go?
Speaker 3: And how was it with Snoop being the guy? Because
Speaker 3: because to me, that'd be my first question if I
Speaker 3: knew you were attached to the game.
Speaker 16: Yeah, well, first of all, thanks for thinking nobody knows
Speaker 16: who I am. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Uh I call It's good.
Speaker 7: It was just giving me some grief. But you know, certainly, yeah,
Speaker 7: I mean it was.
Speaker 16: I don't know if you got to see what some
Speaker 16: of us during game, they were wearing custom like starter
Speaker 16: jacket with gin and Juice in our in our Arizonable
Speaker 16: logo on it. So I wore that as much as
Speaker 16: I could this weekend and certainly to your points theme
Speaker 16: as soon as people find out who I was with
Speaker 16: more so than saying how did it go a lot
Speaker 16: of people, I was really pleasantly surprised with how many
Speaker 16: people watched and saw how it went, and saw all
Speaker 16: the interactions and saw how big Snoop was and the comments.
Speaker 16: You know, I'll say the best one I heard was
Speaker 16: from a BULD colleague of mine, and she said, thank
Speaker 16: you for so much work that we all now have
Speaker 16: to do because our title sponsors are just boring people
Speaker 16: who write big checks. You know, now you also have
Speaker 16: to have the entertainment component to it, not just pay
Speaker 16: the bills. So, you know, very fortunate that we were
Speaker 16: able to land Snoop and and have it for another
Speaker 16: couple of years that they're minimum.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I'm sure more more of that's coming.
Speaker 4: I mean, if it was so successful and it got
Speaker 4: great exposure, and you know, if you can do it
Speaker 4: with Snoop, I imagine what you could do with you know,
Speaker 4: another superstar.
Speaker 3: If I can add to that real quickly, because you
Speaker 3: guys had the only component maybe maybe others did was
Speaker 3: the nil deal along with that.
Speaker 16: Yeah, we We've been talked about a lot, you know.
Speaker 16: When we announced that, probably in you know, July or August,
Speaker 16: we got a lot of phone calls immediately from our
Speaker 16: colleagues in the bowl system. First of all, like you said, Steve, going,
Speaker 16: how you know, I mean, it's it's the it's still
Speaker 16: kind of the wild world West somehow in nil world, so,
Speaker 16: you know, figuring out the legalities of.
Speaker 7: It, you know.
Speaker 16: Fortunately, our chair person has a bit of a legal
Speaker 16: background himself, so we made sure we were on the
Speaker 16: up and up on that and ended up doing it
Speaker 16: the best. Really worked well with our conferences. Can't say
Speaker 16: enough about the Mid American and Mountain west On on
Speaker 16: working out the right way to do that versus you know,
Speaker 16: how the money went to a certain collective or to
Speaker 16: a conference and they were able to do it. So
Speaker 16: it all went the right way, making sure that that
Speaker 16: student athlete not only got their money, but got it
Speaker 16: in the best form possible and the most legal way possible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, makes sense, makes sense. So what did what was
Speaker 3: the most striking thing you saw? We're gonna go to
Speaker 3: other things, but what did you see that? Okay, hey,
Speaker 3: this is cool.
Speaker 16: I really they had a great job and I'll say
Speaker 16: this for Able. They had a DJ that we actually
Speaker 16: also had a few weeks before here in Tucson.
Speaker 7: It was the same guy.
Speaker 16: But I think you're you're starting to see this around
Speaker 16: sports and a couple of the you know, the pro
Speaker 16: teams here in Tucson do it in the University of
Speaker 16: Arizona with that in game host to really keep the
Speaker 16: energy going as you know, everyone's trying to pay their
Speaker 16: bills with more and more timeouts during the game, media
Speaker 16: and injury and all those nour instead of thirty seconds,
Speaker 16: you know, two minutes and fifty seconds like they were
Speaker 16: in the National Championship. So how people are staying engaged
Speaker 16: daring it your new ideas of on field things just
Speaker 16: kind of that guy who's kind of talking just and
Speaker 16: going back and forth with fans, and you know, they
Speaker 16: used the filter on the giant scoreboard of putting each
Speaker 16: team's helmet on somebody during it, and so just really
Speaker 16: focusing more on fans than than sort of the games
Speaker 16: we've seen all for many years. That dizzy bat race,
Speaker 16: the you know, Papa balloon, or try to get dressed
Speaker 16: in oversized shoes or something that was a lot more
Speaker 16: fan interaction with the endgame host.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Plus I'm sure the corporate dollars were flowing pretty strongly
Speaker 4: there too, so there's probably some pretty good you know
Speaker 4: arrangements with State Farm or whoever was you know doing.
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh. Yeah.
Speaker 16: So the coolest thing I saw outside of the game,
Speaker 16: Dave and exactly what you're saying is their tail game.
Speaker 7: It was freezing in Atlanta.
Speaker 16: I'll just tell you that, guys, especially for a Tucson
Speaker 16: native like myself, it was so so cold, and so
Speaker 16: they did a really great job of making so they
Speaker 16: used their convention center which was roughly about the size
Speaker 16: of Tucson Convention Center, so you know a lot of
Speaker 16: space but not huge, and they turned their tailgate into
Speaker 16: an indoor thing. And so, like you were saying, day
Speaker 16: like amazing activations again with a lot of virtual reality
Speaker 16: from you know, field goal challenges on full size field
Speaker 16: goal posts to forty yard dashes to you know, tons
Speaker 16: of cornhole and you know, the football toss and a
Speaker 16: lot of different things where you know, Doctor Pepper had
Speaker 16: a huge interaction where everybody was walking around and Doctor
Speaker 16: Pepper beanies and all that stuff. So I will say
Speaker 16: the national Championship does a great job. I arrived on
Speaker 16: Saturday and through you know, I left yesterday. There was
Speaker 16: something to do, and it was most of it free
Speaker 16: and available to the public, and they did a really
Speaker 16: great job of engaging with the community and all the
Speaker 16: fans there.
Speaker 4: Atlanta doesn't mess around too because you've got you have
Speaker 4: Coca Cola there, You've got Home detail companies.
Speaker 16: Right, yeah, yeah, and all of them had huge activations there.
Speaker 16: You know, you got to sample new new flavors potentially
Speaker 16: of Coke and Doctor Pepper and Home Depot had a
Speaker 16: massive activation there called the Backyard Brickyard and so yes, Dave, absolutely,
Speaker 16: those those big time sponsors made sure their money went
Speaker 16: to a big time event.
Speaker 3: Absent of big time sponsors. Eric could could Tucson pulls
Speaker 3: something like this off. I mean, it's you're tasked to
Speaker 3: do it. Your group is tasked to do it. But
Speaker 3: on a smaller scale.
Speaker 17: I think so.
Speaker 16: And you know, honestly, Steve, I don't know that it would.
Speaker 7: Be that much smaller.
Speaker 16: You know, it was it was announced in the stadium
Speaker 16: that it was the second largest crowd ever at a
Speaker 16: at a college football national championship, and it was seventy
Speaker 16: seven thousand, you know, in Arizona Stadium, and it's peak.
Speaker 16: I think it's around fifty five. Don't quote me on that,
Speaker 16: but I think it's somewhere in the fifty five range.
Speaker 16: May maybe a bit shy of that. But as far
Speaker 16: as the activations that happened outside and around it, the
Speaker 16: infrastructure exists. And I will say for the weather, you know,
Speaker 16: it was great to land back in Arizona yesterday and
Speaker 16: see all the people on heavy coats and sixty five
Speaker 16: degrees and you know, down at fifty eight versus eight
Speaker 16: degrees in Atlanta when I left. So what's called the
Speaker 16: Austin is still quite pleasant for everything else. So I think,
Speaker 16: you know, gosh, it would take a ton of work,
Speaker 16: yeoman's work to make something like that happen here in Tucson,
Speaker 16: but you know, they pull it off a little bit north.
Speaker 16: I absolutely think it's something that Tucson could handle, should
Speaker 16: we ever got that opportunity.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think I don't even know if
Speaker 4: this is going to happen, but there's some talk about
Speaker 4: making some type of an entertainment district around Arizona Stadium.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys are in the loop
Speaker 4: on that, but maybe where the cold David Colin Jeannie
Speaker 4: Davis practice facility is kind of that road. I've heard
Speaker 4: that there's some possibilities that could be a you know
Speaker 4: the venue list.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you I did that story. Dave Hike
Speaker 3: told me this story. Did this story for BIZ Tucson
Speaker 3: maybe two and a half years ago. It was sur
Speaker 3: it's where the Beach Volleyball area is. Is that what
Speaker 3: it's so it's in the corner of the old UA
Speaker 3: football pervice field where they had a lot of space,
Speaker 3: but it was it was for shops and for things
Speaker 3: for the the student to send students to go by.
Speaker 3: It's kind of a pipe dream, I think.
Speaker 4: But you've just heard that, well, I mean I've heard
Speaker 4: in the last year or so, okay, some talk that
Speaker 4: maybe maybe using I don't even know as a championship drive.
Speaker 4: Whatever the road is it heads out to sixth Street,
Speaker 4: is a spot where they could put some entertainment.
Speaker 2: What did you hear, Eric, or have you?
Speaker 16: I you know, like all of us in our industry, guys,
Speaker 16: we've heard, we hear the you know, different versions of
Speaker 16: the same thing. So I've heard a little bit of
Speaker 16: what David saying, I'm not sure how they would do
Speaker 16: that with the existing structions around. I have heard the
Speaker 16: one that Steve mentioned the Humanez practice facility in stand
Speaker 16: volleyball area to build up, you know, because that's that's
Speaker 16: a sizable space. I sure would love it, you know,
Speaker 16: I mean, I think it would be great. You know, again,
Speaker 16: as a lifelong two Stone end and a season ticket
Speaker 16: holder personally for a lot of the Arizona sports, you know,
Speaker 16: the fan experience is now so key, you know, and
Speaker 16: it's one of the reasons, you know, if I'll speak
Speaker 16: hubably but bragging about our product for a little bit,
Speaker 16: then I think the Arizona bole has become successful. Is
Speaker 16: it's not just the football game. We've built a massive
Speaker 16: tailgate and all these things that happened around it, and
Speaker 16: a New Year's Eve event, and so it's the experience
Speaker 16: of the game itself. And that's what made Atlanta such
Speaker 16: a cool experience was the football game was a couple
Speaker 16: of hours, but the rest of the weekend was you know,
Speaker 16: it was just it was a vibe. I was telling
Speaker 16: one of my colleagues in the office today, it was
Speaker 16: just great because the moment you got on the plane
Speaker 16: headed towards Atlanta. There was fans heading there, and the
Speaker 16: minute you got off, there was you know, I will
Speaker 16: and I'm sorry for all your listeners who like this.
Speaker 16: If I don't hear Ohio for the next year or two,
Speaker 16: I'll be okay. I think I got my lifetime quote
Speaker 16: over the last seventy two.
Speaker 7: Hours of that.
Speaker 16: But it's just it's the excitement around the community, you know,
Speaker 16: from all the people who live there and all the
Speaker 16: shots and all the things that were open and exciting
Speaker 16: and open to the game and maybe back to both
Speaker 16: of your points and how we can make Tucson one
Speaker 16: of those things. And I think, you know, we're starting
Speaker 16: to get there, certainly through the Arizonable and some of
Speaker 16: these other events. You know, I heard the WBC advertisement
Speaker 16: as I was waiting to come on the show. You know,
Speaker 16: the more the community is excited and opening and you
Speaker 16: can feel that in the city for our folks who
Speaker 16: are visiting for that event, the more successful it is,
Speaker 16: and you know, the numbers will will go with it.
Speaker 16: But it doesn't even necessarily have to be the numbers
Speaker 16: at first, as much as it is the feeling of
Speaker 16: those people involved in that event to go Oh my gosh,
Speaker 16: Tucson and Southern Arizona supports sports.
Speaker 3: Well, here's here's my last question before we go. One
Speaker 3: of the things that I wanted to say was you
Speaker 3: were Arizonable. The WBC that you just mentioned, will tour,
Speaker 3: there's some other sporting events. You guys are not competing
Speaker 3: against each other. You guys are all pulled on the
Speaker 3: same side of the rope for everybody to succeed. I
Speaker 3: know that because I'm kind of involved with that. But
Speaker 3: everyone's talking about that. Hey, it's cool to be part
Speaker 3: of this. They're helping us. And and you know, you
Speaker 3: scratch my back our scratchers one hundred percent.
Speaker 16: And I think hopefully you know that's one of the reasons.
Speaker 16: You know, this is my hometown, so I'll always be
Speaker 16: a little bit biased. But I think you know you're
Speaker 16: you're you're head on Steve right there. That one of
Speaker 16: the things I love about my job is that we
Speaker 16: don't compete with other people. You know, we purchase tickets
Speaker 16: to other things. We advertise the Roadrunners and the Sugar Schools.
Speaker 16: We have a sponsorship and al tour. You know, Steve,
Speaker 16: I know you're heavily involved in all tour and what
Speaker 16: a great event. You know, I get to see out
Speaker 16: there every year because I go from sponsor it and
Speaker 16: you know, I did the five k this year.
Speaker 7: I walked it. Man, I'm not running.
Speaker 16: I'm not not a good shape anymore. But it's just
Speaker 16: a cool event. And I think the more thing. And
Speaker 16: again we're saying that we've all done and we're all
Speaker 16: still involved in it. I mean, Dave, you've been doing
Speaker 16: this unofficially for the last few minutes a couple of
Speaker 16: years here. Who thought of promoting athletics and why Tucson
Speaker 16: is a sports town And you know, Steve, it's such
Speaker 16: a great point that if we all are here to
Speaker 16: make things succeed. You mentioned Kim earlier she wants to
Speaker 16: get a tattoo in her arm because she said, since
Speaker 16: the moment I've known her, a rising tide lifts all ships.
Speaker 16: And that's like she wants to get that tattooed on
Speaker 16: her arm because she says it all the time, and
Speaker 16: it's so true, and especially in our industry and athletics.
Speaker 7: You know, the more we can support each.
Speaker 16: Other and the bigger and better we can get together,
Speaker 16: then we all win. Like it's not trying to take
Speaker 16: dollars or fans from someone else that's trying to get
Speaker 16: our community to rally around these things that make our
Speaker 16: community bigger and better. And in the end, it makes
Speaker 16: more money for everybody working in our community. So it
Speaker 16: tells the restaurants, all of it that makes Tucson a
Speaker 16: better place in southern Arizona continue to grow as a
Speaker 16: destination for athletics.
Speaker 3: We'll go with this because you've been here at mid
Speaker 3: eighties or early eighties, right, and I've been here late eighties.
Speaker 3: It's not dusty anymore. It's one and a half million duson.
Speaker 2: No, it's people.
Speaker 17: Yeah, we all still like it, like it. We also
Speaker 17: think it's a you know.
Speaker 7: A couple hundred thousand, but it's at a couple of zeros.
Speaker 7: You know, I live way up northwest and it's a
Speaker 7: huge town and I love that about our.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, you know, people have been coming
Speaker 4: here now kind of regularly, and now we're giving the
Speaker 4: even more reasons to come with well games and golf tournaments.
Speaker 3: I guarantee you got to see more California plates. After
Speaker 3: what happened in LA, They're going to be coming here.
Speaker 17: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just what it is.
Speaker 16: I mean, and the best thing we can do, like
Speaker 16: we've all been saying, is you know, roll off the
Speaker 16: red carpet and say, yeah, you should be here because
Speaker 16: this is a great place to be. I mean, the
Speaker 16: BBC just just named Touson one of the top twenty
Speaker 16: five places to visit. You know, some when we're getting
Speaker 16: attention from across the pond, then you know, maybe maybe
Speaker 16: people on the side of the shore should pay a
Speaker 16: little bit more attention.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Eric, appreciate it.
Speaker 7: Oh my pleasure. Thanks guys, to talk to you both soon.
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Speaker 1: on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to One in the Ball here on
Speaker 3: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and today.
Speaker 2: Is Dave Silver.
Speaker 3: We get one at the keyboard, so we should be okay, safe.
Speaker 2: Good to talk to Eric. He's fun. He must have
Speaker 2: had a good time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like a good time and nice to
Speaker 4: represent Tucson the way he does. You know, really all
Speaker 4: year round, but get to have that perk of going
Speaker 4: to the national championship game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially fun, especially when you're not working, working right.
Speaker 3: You know how many final fours you've been? Yeah, four
Speaker 3: for a see, and I've been to a few. But
Speaker 3: it's work. And people say, oh, you are at the
Speaker 3: final four. Yeah, but it's worked right, and they don't understand, Well,
Speaker 3: it's not working on the roof. No, but it's still
Speaker 3: our work where you're working doing stuff for a long,
Speaker 3: long hours. But so for him it was like, you know, hello,
Speaker 3: mak Roads and this is what I do. Yeah, oh cool,
Speaker 3: you look up by your ambassador, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: So it's different.
Speaker 4: And so you know, I'm sure you know, we know
Speaker 4: that they were working super hard the last you know,
Speaker 4: a few months leading up to the game, and I'm
Speaker 4: sure that last week was crazy, and you know, they're
Speaker 4: probably all looking forward to a nice break and the
Speaker 4: holidays come and New Year's comes, and then they're finished,
Speaker 4: and hey, I get to go to Atlanta for three
Speaker 4: or four nights to represent Tucson and talk about it,
Speaker 4: like he was saying that, you know, the Tucson's getting
Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of good press just about
Speaker 4: the city in general, getting a lot of attraction from
Speaker 4: magazines around the around the world about about the desert
Speaker 4: in this area. And so it doesn't hurt to have
Speaker 4: somebody out there, you know, in a place like that
Speaker 4: where we may you know, maybe he does turn around
Speaker 4: and he's talking to somebody from you know, some magazine
Speaker 4: from around the country.
Speaker 3: Sure, and it's a good place to find more sponsors,
Speaker 3: right because they're there, they're walking around.
Speaker 2: And the Snoop Dogg thing too.
Speaker 4: I mean, as much as you I don't know, it
Speaker 4: seemed like it went over pretty well. There was some
Speaker 4: controversy maybe or some people were upset with him sure,
Speaker 4: being you know, the face of the game, but it
Speaker 4: certainly brought attention.
Speaker 2: Let's put it that way. Sometimes all you.
Speaker 3: Need, David, you can always have twelve angry jurors, and
Speaker 3: you're gonna have two dudes who don't like each other
Speaker 3: or something. Uh, you know, put one hundred people in
Speaker 3: a room and you're gonna have ten people.
Speaker 4: Well, he came across, at least from what I saw
Speaker 4: as the specteria. He looked funny, likable, likable, likable, funny.
Speaker 4: You know, he was serious, but not serious?
Speaker 3: Right the thing about it, Dave, as far as I know,
Speaker 3: he was perfect visibly and he was out doing his stuff,
Speaker 3: But he really didn't talk to people here locally, you know,
Speaker 3: like he wasn't granted any interviews, didn't any publicity enough
Speaker 3: that he has to obviously you know, he's like, could
Speaker 3: you advertise on my show? But do I help need
Speaker 3: to advertise on your show? You don't say he didn't
Speaker 3: need to do that, So he didn't.
Speaker 4: Did he do any local media at all? No, even
Speaker 4: like after the game, before the game, No, he didn't
Speaker 4: talk to people.
Speaker 3: As far as I know, he didn't do pre we
Speaker 3: I asked him here, asked him for Bistussan.
Speaker 2: I know that Justin did too.
Speaker 3: I don't think he did, and he didn't really talk
Speaker 3: to people just randomly, Hell, how are you dad?
Speaker 2: But that's about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess maybe the Bold obviously did that. The
Speaker 4: bulls people spoke, Kim spoke and things like that, so
Speaker 4: I guess they didn't need him. But maybe maybe, you know,
Speaker 4: maybe he didn't know what to expect. Maybe he didn't
Speaker 4: know what who was going to be asking him questions.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 3: Okay, so now you have the the the big shiny penny.
Speaker 3: You had it one year, Will it continue to be
Speaker 3: the shiny penny.
Speaker 2: The next year? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Because you saw it, you came, he saw what he did. Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm over it. You know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 3: what's your two going to be?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Well I think you know, I think you know, I think,
Speaker 4: as I was saying before, it'll he had a chance
Speaker 4: to see it. You know, he got an idea of
Speaker 4: who you guys were, what the media situation was here
Speaker 4: in Tucson.
Speaker 2: It's not overwhelming.
Speaker 4: It's not Los Angeles where he's from, right, so, you know,
Speaker 4: having a chance to maybe step in front of a
Speaker 4: microphone next year.
Speaker 2: With the press comments kind of thing, just one.
Speaker 4: Time orchestrated in just do something I'm surprised, like even
Speaker 4: at their banqueting or lunch, didn't he didn't he come
Speaker 4: to some kind of a kickoff or did he come
Speaker 4: to that.
Speaker 2: He went to the game? Did you go? Now he
Speaker 2: had the juice house or whatever it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, doing his thing, and that's great because
Speaker 3: people just want to see him anyway, maybe take a
Speaker 3: photo op or whatever. Maybe he performed pregame in that
Speaker 3: little gin and juice house. Yeah, okay, so I want
Speaker 3: to talk to you real quick. We got about six
Speaker 3: minutes some Evermakawa one of my favorite guys.
Speaker 2: Things.
Speaker 3: Uh, I already got a text about snoop here uh
Speaker 3: Top three lineups by Evanmaya dot com. This is based
Speaker 3: on observed efficiency margin, which measures lineups performance adjusted for
Speaker 3: opponent quality. They love del Orso vsar combination has been
Speaker 3: a catalyst for Arizona. So tell me, guess do you
Speaker 3: already have it up?
Speaker 2: Do you do? You know? Okay?
Speaker 7: Good?
Speaker 3: He want you to cheat on me here? How how
Speaker 3: high do you think they are in the list.
Speaker 2: Of Division one teams?
Speaker 3: I know, surprise, do you surprise you a little bit?
Speaker 2: Yeah? A little bit? So they're fourth, fourth and yeah,
Speaker 2: well and what is that proving?
Speaker 15: Now?
Speaker 5: What is what is it that they think they're doing efficiency?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the based on observed efficiency margin, which measures lineup
Speaker 3: performance adjusted for opponent quality, which of course Arizona's well
Speaker 3: you talked about this with a quality. Tell me Arizona
Speaker 3: has faced five six of the time. So looking at his.
Speaker 6: Top ten, Arizona has either faced already or is gonna
Speaker 6: face five of those top ten teams. He's gonna be
Speaker 6: We've already played Duke, gonna play Houston. You still have
Speaker 6: to play Aowa State. He still to play Kansas, and
Speaker 6: we've already faced Texas Tech.
Speaker 3: Right, so five and they're all see that's ahead. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's why I said they haven't played anybody yet. Well,
Speaker 3: they're gonna play anybody pretty soon.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, so that three sume has done for the well,
Speaker 3: I think a lot of it has to do with
Speaker 3: love success and then we starts coming on or has
Speaker 3: come on.
Speaker 2: And I think adult also being a little bit efficient too.
Speaker 2: You know, he doesn't really turn the ball over.
Speaker 3: He's had he's shooting close to fifty percent from the
Speaker 3: three point line. Yeah, if they could get like eight
Speaker 3: nine ten points from him, same from Towns and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you can get you know, ten from Townsend,
Speaker 4: and the last night they got nineteen. So it was
Speaker 4: a nice little little bump that they haven't been getting
Speaker 4: really in the first half of the season.
Speaker 3: Sure, it's it's easier said than dead, right, because they've
Speaker 3: got they've got some talent. He's got a tend of
Speaker 3: even come up with some numbers.
Speaker 5: It just depends on the matchup.
Speaker 4: I think sometimes you know what, I don't watch it
Speaker 4: as closely maybe as you do, but you know who
Speaker 4: is guarding him. He's not a big guy, right, you know,
Speaker 4: did he not have a six to eight guy, you know,
Speaker 4: power forward and he's six four maybe six ' five.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, No, it's all matchups and matchups
Speaker 3: and how you play that day, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the fourth it surprised you as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: I think I think the those three are really just
Speaker 6: surprising overall because maybe it's me just not paying attention.
Speaker 6: I haven't really seen those three on the court a lot,
Speaker 6: or really even just or pay attention to those three
Speaker 6: on the court, yea, when they're on there or when
Speaker 6: they're on at the same time.
Speaker 2: You know, it's usually just one of them.
Speaker 3: Well last year, if you remember, I know, I did
Speaker 3: this story at the tournament that the guy that made
Speaker 3: the team to run or the you know, the straw
Speaker 3: that stirs his drinks for Arizona was a guy that
Speaker 3: I who would you have thought.
Speaker 2: Bradley did.
Speaker 3: I kind of give away this because it was kind
Speaker 3: of a surprise. I thought, you think it'd be loved
Speaker 3: he had such a great year, But it was Bradley
Speaker 3: he was. He was the guy that kind of did
Speaker 3: things that weren't on the boards in kind of odd
Speaker 3: numbers that Evan does.
Speaker 4: Well, He's been pretty consistent, he really has. I mean,
Speaker 4: you're not going to get more than you know, fifteen
Speaker 4: points basically, but if he can dish out yeah, five
Speaker 4: to eight assists, no turnover, no turnovers, and just you know,
Speaker 4: protect the bomb, especially at the end of the game.
Speaker 4: I mean a couple of losses they've had I think
Speaker 4: has been when they've had struggled against the press and
Speaker 4: they're panicking a little bit and throw the ball away.
Speaker 3: Well, Tommy said, I was surprised that they didn't process. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they and you saw the game. It was like a
Speaker 3: nothing burger. Yetta pretty much.
Speaker 4: I mean you know, they again, it was one of
Speaker 4: those situations like Okay, they're going to stay close, stay close,
Speaker 4: and then you know, there was that little spurt for
Speaker 4: in the second half, right, the Arizona scored maybe nine
Speaker 4: points in a row and that was pretty much it.
Speaker 3: Right And and Oklahoma statey you could see, was not disciplined,
Speaker 3: they were not smart with the ball. Yeah, well, the
Speaker 3: next six weeks are going to be kind of what's
Speaker 3: going to prove who they are.
Speaker 4: They have some big games we've already talked about. It's
Speaker 4: just gonna be kind of fun to see what they
Speaker 4: can do with the you know, so called better teams
Speaker 4: in the Big Twelve, which they are themselves. You know,
Speaker 4: I don't think I don't think teams like Houston are
Speaker 4: looking forward too much to coming in here or some
Speaker 4: of the you know, the Iowa State.
Speaker 2: It's going to be a big deal.
Speaker 4: They're highly ranked, they've played and beaten Kansas and things
Speaker 4: like that, so they're not going to be intimidated. But
Speaker 4: it's gonna be one of the marquee games for the
Speaker 4: U of A as well.
Speaker 2: Do you still think this is a tournament team?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I just don't know if they're
Speaker 3: a four seed, more power to them, because I don't
Speaker 3: see a four seed, but I think it's going to
Speaker 3: be like a six, seven eight. Maybe where they go
Speaker 3: I don't know. And the postest place in the first
Speaker 3: round could be Denver. I would love because I hope
Speaker 3: to go there, but anybody else I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I want to go because it could be a quick trip,
Speaker 2: could be quick. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, look, I think all our colleagues one, we're not
Speaker 3: sure whether to go to the Big twelve tournament or
Speaker 3: not because they play Kansas that week. Then they go
Speaker 3: to Kansas City for the tournament, and who knows, they
Speaker 3: could be one game out, two games out. It's really
Speaker 3: not worth traveling there to come back to go to
Speaker 3: the tournament.
Speaker 2: A week later.
Speaker 6: It'll be really interesting how that week goes, because not
Speaker 6: just it being short weeks, it could derail a season,
Speaker 6: you know, depending on how that first game goes.
Speaker 2: Then you got to turn it around and face whomever.
Speaker 6: Texas Tech maybe, yeah, yeah, Texas Tech in a secon
Speaker 6: around first round.
Speaker 2: Who knows, and we already know the result of one game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we were talking about this too, and not
Speaker 3: that they would do this. So you finish the say
Speaker 3: third fourth in the league, you probably play the second
Speaker 3: day right in the tournament. You don't play in the
Speaker 3: first game, and you kind of already beat up or
Speaker 3: you know where you are as a seed.
Speaker 2: What's the incentive.
Speaker 3: To do well in the tournament because you're gonna get
Speaker 3: beat up for two more games?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean even the difference between one and a
Speaker 4: two sometimes hasn't made a difference. But you know, if
Speaker 4: you're gonna be I want to, you know, stay sharp.
Speaker 4: That's usually the other side of the story, as the
Speaker 4: coaches are on I want today. I don't want to
Speaker 4: have like a five day layoff and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: But they're gonna be beat up. They're gonna play on
Speaker 4: Saturday right against Kansas and then turn around.
Speaker 3: No, I think it's like a Tuesday. I could be wrong.
Speaker 3: I could be wrong something like that. Yeah, So let
Speaker 3: me ask you both because this is one of the
Speaker 3: momentum questions I have my theory on.
Speaker 4: Do you guys believe in rust? M not really, I
Speaker 4: don't because they're not gonna have rust. There'll only be
Speaker 4: the game isn't on a Saturday at Campas and then.
Speaker 3: The tournament starts right away Tuesday, Okay, so it was
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: Like three or four days, you know, sitting in Kansas City.
Speaker 3: Well but do you you do you believe in RUSS
Speaker 3: because I hear it, you heard it now in the playoffs? Well,
Speaker 3: Kansas City didn't play the Rusty. This is what you
Speaker 3: do for Olivia. Yeah, yeah, you're still practicing. It's not
Speaker 3: like you're a couch anything.
Speaker 4: Sometimes maybe in baseball, maybe when they're you know, playoff
Speaker 4: series ends on a Saturday and they don't play again
Speaker 4: until Friday, and they seem to think, oh, you know,
Speaker 4: it's but still they're taking batting practice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going to That always seems to be the
Speaker 2: excuse that you come.
Speaker 3: Up, Well, you know, who's asking the questions dudes that
Speaker 3: have never played or or maybe you have to ask
Speaker 3: the question because it's an obvious question. But when you're
Speaker 3: not doing this and you come back after week, do
Speaker 3: you get rusty for being in this show? Sometimes?
Speaker 4: You know, but I think I'm not doing anything really strenuous.
Speaker 4: But I think some athletes sometimes use that, Well, you know,
Speaker 4: I haven't played in six days.
Speaker 2: So, but you've been doing it for six months exactly.
Speaker 2: Motor mechanick and all that stuff. You do what you do.
Speaker 2: Who knows? I think.
Speaker 4: Let's just let's just let's let's let's wait and see
Speaker 4: and let's let's see what they have to say about
Speaker 4: when they lose that game. Right, Well, you know, we
Speaker 4: haven't played since since Saturday, and here we are, it's Thursday.
Speaker 2: Forgot how to play? We got to go, so come back.
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