WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:03.480 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on 2 00:00:03.600 --> 00:00:08.839 Fox Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services Insure 3 00:00:08.919 --> 00:00:10.640 your most prized possessions. 4 00:00:12.759 --> 00:00:13.919 Thy good afternoon, everybody. 5 00:00:13.919 --> 00:00:16.440 Welcome to Iron the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. 6 00:00:16.879 --> 00:00:20.160 I'm Steve Rivera and with me today is Dave Silver 7 00:00:21.160 --> 00:00:24.480 and on the other side of the screen is Juan One. 8 00:00:24.519 --> 00:00:27.839 How you doing even been better? But we're out here. 9 00:00:28.359 --> 00:00:31.120 It's cold here in this town. What's seventy two degrees? 10 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:33.679 No, No, it's like twenty seven. 11 00:00:33.439 --> 00:00:37.000 Degrees, about sixty degrees. It's our winter. We get about 12 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:39.439 ten days of this. Yeah, this is it. You should 13 00:00:39.439 --> 00:00:41.280 be happy. I'm happy with it. It's cold, but it's 14 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:43.960 not really cool. You grew up in this hell. Oh yeah, 15 00:00:44.039 --> 00:00:44.679 you're used to this. 16 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:49.119 I've been here longer than you've been alive. Yeah, ten 17 00:00:49.159 --> 00:00:50.079 days is pretty accurate. 18 00:00:50.600 --> 00:00:53.799 Twelve on the leap years or whatever, right, right, But 19 00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:56.719 you know when it gets cold, it's it's the golf tournament. 20 00:00:57.200 --> 00:00:59.039 In fact, it's late late February. 21 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:02.600 Early remember years ago, there was a nice little snowstorm 22 00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:04.560 when they played that gallery. This has got to be 23 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:07.040 you know, early two thousands. Yeah, and yeah, they had 24 00:01:07.040 --> 00:01:10.840 to have pis. Players were having snowball fights out there, 25 00:01:10.879 --> 00:01:12.480 So that was like late February right. 26 00:01:12.359 --> 00:01:12.840 Around the road. 27 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:14.920 We see that ago. But yeah, you're probably right. Yeah 28 00:01:14.959 --> 00:01:16.680 it was picturesque, I mean very beautiful. 29 00:01:16.799 --> 00:01:19.760 Yes, freezing though, especially his spectators and his media folks. 30 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:21.680 We have to run out there on the golf course. Yeah, 31 00:01:21.680 --> 00:01:24.359 and it was cold, right, Yeah, this is child's play 32 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:27.120 compared to that. But it's it's cold everywhere else. This 33 00:01:27.159 --> 00:01:29.560 is why you're sure, that's why the snowbirds are here. Yep, 34 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:33.599 snowbirds are here having fun. Hey, you were tying real 35 00:01:33.680 --> 00:01:36.359 quick the day before we went on the air. Is uh, 36 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:39.959 last night, you ain't look good? They did well? Why 37 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:44.840 do you think well? And be realistic. Oklahoma State wasn't 38 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:45.159 too good. 39 00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:48.719 They were good, and they weren't that great, but it 40 00:01:48.760 --> 00:01:50.000 was nice to see her was on a play up 41 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:52.439 to the level that they can play, right. I think 42 00:01:52.439 --> 00:01:55.120 two guys to two guys kind of surprised me. At 43 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:58.319 least it was part of my story. Caleb Love, he's 44 00:01:58.359 --> 00:02:00.519 been refound at least for the moment. 45 00:02:00.439 --> 00:02:00.879 For a game. 46 00:02:01.159 --> 00:02:03.879 And what about the other guy, Tray Tray, I mean, 47 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:06.319 that was his best game since he's been here by far. 48 00:02:06.519 --> 00:02:09.319 By far he was. You could tell he'd been frustrated. 49 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:12.319 He wasn't playing all that well. People expected more from him. 50 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:14.520 I think coming in everyone heard all the stories about 51 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:18.120 him last during the year, during the y A Tournament, 52 00:02:18.199 --> 00:02:20.639 and you know, hadn't been doing all that much. It 53 00:02:20.719 --> 00:02:22.639 was usually one of the first guys that they would they 54 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:23.800 would bench during the game. 55 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:28.039 But yeah, nineteen points, seven for eight shooting. 56 00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:29.479 And he even admitted in. 57 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:33.599 The post postgame press conference that you know, I hadn't 58 00:02:33.639 --> 00:02:36.599 been playing up to my expectations and people thought more 59 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:37.639 of me, and here I am. 60 00:02:37.719 --> 00:02:40.120 Yeah, nineteen points twenty minutes. So he didn't really play 61 00:02:40.120 --> 00:02:41.719 all that much. But when he was out there, he 62 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:44.240 was in trouble early. Oh it's Alady had two fouls 63 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:44.960 right off the bat. 64 00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:47.199 Yeah, like in the first couple of minutes. I don't 65 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:47.879 know if you believe this. 66 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:50.159 I'm not sure if I believe this, but him and 67 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:52.759 a Walker are kind of bulls in the china shop. Yeah, 68 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:56.879 but they need that kind of stuff. If previous was there, 69 00:02:56.919 --> 00:02:59.000 it'd be different too, But but yeah, they it's how 70 00:02:59.039 --> 00:02:59.479 they play. 71 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:02.240 Yeah, there's not a lot of grace, you know, no 72 00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:04.800 it's pretty much just barrel in. Try to get, you know, 73 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:07.120 try to work your way, you know, to the boards 74 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:09.639 and pick up some garbage buckets if you can. 75 00:03:10.960 --> 00:03:12.680 Townsend has some good moves though. In a lane he 76 00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:13.400 does tries. 77 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:16.280 He's got that good, little short, little flip jumper from 78 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:19.039 about six feet out that sure makes half the time. 79 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:20.800 And he bowls his way into the lane where you 80 00:03:20.840 --> 00:03:21.800 can get you know, that lay up. 81 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:23.639 I'm gonna say he knows how he gets to the bucket. 82 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:25.280 He knows how to get his own basket on his own. 83 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:27.080 And do you find it the same thing as me? 84 00:03:27.159 --> 00:03:29.479 That where the first possession. It looks like they go 85 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:30.719 to him to score right away. 86 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:34.680 Yeah, underneath one of the two. They usually go inside. 87 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:39.240 They're gonna need them, obviously. I'm not sure how good 88 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:41.919 this team is. That's the mystery of the whole thing, 89 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:43.000 because it's. 90 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:44.159 Not any better than it. It's not. 91 00:03:44.719 --> 00:03:47.240 This is probably the worst of his four that he's 92 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:53.680 at here. Oh yeah, but but you think that if 93 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:56.400 they could catch fire, and right there, that whole sentence 94 00:03:56.719 --> 00:03:59.840 is screwy. If they can catch fire, right, they can 95 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:01.800 have a couple of wins in the tournament. 96 00:04:01.879 --> 00:04:04.039 Yeah, that's It's always kind of been the story around here. 97 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:08.439 Sometimes sometimes the fire flickers out before they get past 98 00:04:08.520 --> 00:04:10.560 that first weekend. But I mean, you know, yesterday was 99 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:14.360 kind of fun, just in terms of guys did play minutes. 100 00:04:14.560 --> 00:04:16.720 I mean, kJ played twenty nine off the off the bench. 101 00:04:16.759 --> 00:04:19.319 Brian Crater, Brian played twenty one minutes off the bench, 102 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:21.319 you know, so he's really spreading things out. 103 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:23.079 Del also didn't play all that much. 104 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:28.800 Someone someone I was surprised by was Emanuel Stephan nine minutes. 105 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:32.000 Yes, you could tell you look like he was just 106 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:36.360 out there. Yes, am I on the right Bill, That's 107 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:37.240 the first thing I noticed. 108 00:04:37.399 --> 00:04:40.439 He was like just all over scattered. But but they 109 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:43.439 needed those minutes, yep, so you know there were and 110 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:45.079 he even talked Tommy talked about it at the end 111 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:47.279 of the end of the game. But you're right, David, 112 00:04:47.399 --> 00:04:48.879 I saw the same thing. It was like where do 113 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:49.160 I go? 114 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:51.040 What do I do? Where I go? What do I do? 115 00:04:52.040 --> 00:04:55.160 But but if you if you can fill those that time, 116 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:57.839 giving the other guys a chance to say that's fine. 117 00:04:58.160 --> 00:04:59.920 Rebounds, no turnovers. 118 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:01.759 Yeah, you know he didn't take it. Did he take 119 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:03.920 a shot? He might have taken one. I didn't even 120 00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:05.639 take a shot. So he knows his purpose. 121 00:05:05.720 --> 00:05:11.959 Yeah, he knows he's not gonna right and all equality 122 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:15.120 aside where previous is out and they need him. He 123 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:18.079 he he wanted to play, and he says, I understand 124 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:20.439 the situation. Yeah, I mean, I playing a whole lot, 125 00:05:20.680 --> 00:05:23.240 but I but I'd rather play than than not play. 126 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:26.079 Yeah, or you know, ruined the road Richard, Well, I. 127 00:05:26.079 --> 00:05:29.040 Mean I think you know, the coaching staff probably turned 128 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:31.000 to him and said, listen, you can contribute here, you 129 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:32.279 can play. You're not going to just come in at 130 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:34.399 the end of the game and you know, play thirty seconds. 131 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:37.000 He winds up playing almost ten minutes. Sure they needed 132 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:39.639 him and just to fill you know, the slot. Give 133 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:43.800 some guys a blow, right, right, Same with same with Martinez. 134 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:46.879 You know, he came in late. His situation is really 135 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:47.800 strange with me. 136 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:49.560 I know that he'll probably get a shot here in 137 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:52.800 the next two or three years, right, two years, but 138 00:05:52.959 --> 00:05:58.040 he's got no shot now because temmy he's going with eight, right, 139 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:01.600 and Martinez is nine, and it's a tough nine, and 140 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:02.839 then Stevens is ten. 141 00:06:02.959 --> 00:06:03.839 I think, right. 142 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:05.879 It was also good to see Henry kind of come back. 143 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:08.279 He'd not been playing too well the last couple of 144 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:11.000 games and even so good, and then he just looked 145 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:14.000 terrible against Texas Tech. And then he looked more like 146 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:15.720 Henry last night. So it was good to see that. 147 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:16.720 Well, that's the whole thing, Dave. 148 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:19.800 I think that if you catch lightning in a bottle 149 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:22.160 and you have to do it six straight times in March, right, 150 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:23.519 you have to catch it. And there was one who 151 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:25.560 did that in ninety seven, and everybody holds it. But 152 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:28.639 if you have Henry catching some lightning, you have Love 153 00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:34.240 catching some lightning. Townsend doing the same thing. And four 154 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:37.439 of the seven or eight playing really really well, this 155 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:38.399 team has a chance. 156 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:39.120 Yeah. 157 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:41.360 The thing is that's a lot to ask. 158 00:06:41.720 --> 00:06:45.040 Well, you know, they've won what eight of nine, and we. 159 00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:47.120 Need to look back maybe and see how especially you know, 160 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:48.920 we kind of talked about Caleb, you know, kind of 161 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:51.639 running the machine. But you know, let's look and see 162 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:53.519 what he was doing over those nine games, and he 163 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:55.120 had a few ups and downs. 164 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:58.040 Yeah, the ninth and I wrote this last night. If 165 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:00.199 I can remember, I think he had five. I have 166 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:03.680 in double figures. 167 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:05.000 More than twenty. But the thing is, no one talks 168 00:07:05.040 --> 00:07:05.519 about that. 169 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:08.800 Yeah, everyone talks about the other five points here, six 170 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:11.959 points there, because if he's your star, what do you 171 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:12.680 need to start to do? 172 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:13.800 Be a star? 173 00:07:13.959 --> 00:07:14.120 Right? 174 00:07:14.120 --> 00:07:16.519 But they're winning too, But they were winning, yeah, especially 175 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:19.439 in this last stretch. But yeah, I mean very efficient 176 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:21.959 last night, ten for seventeen, you know, four for nine 177 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:24.120 from threes. I mean, you can't argue that was a 178 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:24.759 great game for him. 179 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:27.639 I think the flip side of the four or five 180 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:31.240 games where he's twenty or double figures is those other 181 00:07:31.319 --> 00:07:35.560 five games are against top teams. Right, So there's a 182 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:40.040 really large falloff between twenty points against in Oklahoma State, yeah, 183 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:42.920 versus a six or against Yeah. 184 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:45.959 So yeah, that's where the frustration comes from the fans. 185 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:47.839 Right, right, Well, and that's when you need to show, Righteah, 186 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:50.800 and Dave, I've said this, and whether people agree with 187 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:52.839 me or not, this is what I'll say. Over the 188 00:07:52.920 --> 00:07:55.319 last seven you said eight games that they've had a 189 00:07:55.360 --> 00:08:00.000 pretty nice stretch here. They really haven't played anybody worthy 190 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:04.439 maybe Baylor at home, right, everything, And your boss Peterson 191 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:07.279 wrote this before the Baylor game. They had played the 192 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:10.879 weakest schedule the Big twelve to that point. Yeah, and hey, 193 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:13.639 but the thing about it, it beats the alternative. They could 194 00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:15.560 have usually lost those games too, right, Yeah, and then 195 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:16.720 you'd say what the hell is going on? 196 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:17.920 And going into conference blay. 197 00:08:17.920 --> 00:08:19.839 A lot of people thought that, yeah, because they weren't 198 00:08:19.879 --> 00:08:20.720 playing well exactly. 199 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:22.279 These next two weeks are gonna be fun though, with 200 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:25.160 Iowa States and even Colorado coming and they've had some 201 00:08:25.199 --> 00:08:26.600 battles at school for there. 202 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:31.199 Well, O seven, that's a dangerous owen know, Colorado in 203 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:32.039 conference play. 204 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:34.840 Give me the next so they have, So we go 205 00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:36.120 Colorado Saturday. 206 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:38.759 Okay, Iowa State which is which is going to be 207 00:08:38.840 --> 00:08:39.639 the litmus test? 208 00:08:40.039 --> 00:08:42.879 Which one i State? I was staying the Monday night. 209 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:45.759 It'll show what kind of crowd you can get. Who's 210 00:08:45.759 --> 00:08:46.080 after that? 211 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:48.519 And after after they go to a s U okay, 212 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:51.080 which which could be tough because they're playing fairly well. 213 00:08:51.279 --> 00:08:53.879 They won last night, yeah, and then at the YU right. 214 00:08:53.799 --> 00:08:58.960 After that, and then when Houston until February fifteenth, Okay, 215 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:01.559 so this stretches. Then they play Houston. That's the next 216 00:09:01.759 --> 00:09:05.600 second best test, right yeah, Texas Tech at home? Yeah, 217 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:07.919 between the Texas tim here, I mean I think they're 218 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:08.879 gonna kill Texas Tech. 219 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:11.759 Yeah, the road games though, you know, a s U 220 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:15.320 Kansas State, Baylor all in the next month. 221 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:17.039 I think is gonna give a heck of a game 222 00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:21.279 over there, probably beat them. Baylor's Baylor's pretty good, especially 223 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:23.639 at home. Arizona just kind of they played really well 224 00:09:23.639 --> 00:09:24.840 in that first first half. 225 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:26.480 So we'll see. 226 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:29.240 I mean, we're talking about a win today, so that's 227 00:09:29.240 --> 00:09:29.720 a good thing. 228 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:31.679 Yeah. Yeah, the first things first. 229 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:33.879 Right, right, you know, and Sir Tommy said, you know, 230 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:36.279 we need this, We needed to play well after Saturday's game. 231 00:09:36.600 --> 00:09:39.039 It's kind of and guess what, people don't talk about 232 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:43.879 the bad things, and they have been because once they lose, 233 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:47.480 everything goes to hell. Everybody's free. The world is ending. 234 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:50.399 Tommy needs to be fired, get rid of love, blah 235 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:51.039 blah blah, the. 236 00:09:51.039 --> 00:09:53.039 World is I like the story I guess Bruce did 237 00:09:53.360 --> 00:09:55.799 in the in the Star about about the travel situation 238 00:09:55.879 --> 00:09:57.720 and you know, staying in some you know, not the 239 00:09:57.759 --> 00:09:59.879 greatest hotels in the world and not having room from 240 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:02.159 and things are a little bit different than the Big 241 00:10:02.200 --> 00:10:04.720 twelve travel wise, and I mean the schedule itself, the 242 00:10:04.759 --> 00:10:06.559 way it sets up. I mean here there still on 243 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:08.919 the road. I guess got home, you know, to crack 244 00:10:08.960 --> 00:10:11.799 at dawn, got to maybe go to class today. You know, 245 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:13.399 it's it's a little bit different than it was back 246 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:14.039 in the Pac twelve. 247 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:15.480 Yeah, no question. And it's funny. 248 00:10:15.519 --> 00:10:17.559 I wonder how if that's the case, If that's the 249 00:10:17.559 --> 00:10:19.840 case of the conditions, I wonder how Loot would have 250 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:22.919 handled it, because because you know this, you travel a little. 251 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:26.240 I travel all the time. And they didn't. They didn't 252 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:29.759 stay at easy no cheap hotels. No, they stayed at 253 00:10:29.799 --> 00:10:31.960 the best hotels. It would have been the same where 254 00:10:32.039 --> 00:10:35.200 we stayed. Well, we're Motel six, Bobby. No, we're not 255 00:10:36.360 --> 00:10:37.399 been to Stillwater though. 256 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:40.879 Yeah, is there Airbnb anywhere? 257 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:42.320 I was in Stillwater? 258 00:10:42.639 --> 00:10:43.080 It was great. 259 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:45.759 This is off subject, but one year. 260 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:49.639 We had the chance to cover the women's softball team 261 00:10:49.679 --> 00:10:53.039 in Oklahoma City in May and at the exact same 262 00:10:53.080 --> 00:10:56.240 time baseball was playing in Stillwater. It was a really 263 00:10:56.279 --> 00:10:58.039 good u of a team. As one of Jerry Kendall's 264 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:01.480 last year's and softball he did. We did this drive. 265 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:03.960 It was like sixty five miles, not the most beautiful trip, 266 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:05.840 but we did it. You know, we said we're going 267 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:08.039 to try to cover both teams. So we made the 268 00:11:08.120 --> 00:11:09.440 drive to Stillwater. 269 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:12.000 And it's twenty forty five fifty thousand people. That's what 270 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:15.879 still Waters, what the radio show said last night. I'm thinking, really, okay, 271 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:17.519 I didn't really know if there was a college town 272 00:11:17.639 --> 00:11:17.960 like that. 273 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:21.679 There's trying to think of you. I didn't look, Matt Hollida. 274 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:25.120 I'm trying to think there's some great baseball Oh yeah, yeah, 275 00:11:25.159 --> 00:11:26.600 but there were some all these Hall of Fame, you know, 276 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:28.559 the Oklahoma State Hall of Fame. So it's pretty in 277 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:29.320 the sports school for that. 278 00:11:29.360 --> 00:11:29.639 Of course. 279 00:11:29.679 --> 00:11:32.360 Barry Sanders, that's funny you say I covered it when 280 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:34.159 he was at Texas with the Rangers. 281 00:11:34.200 --> 00:11:36.679 Yeah, he was a he was O s U. Big dude, 282 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:37.600 big dude. 283 00:11:37.679 --> 00:11:40.879 Yeah, Arizona. That was another one of these bad losses. 284 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:44.039 Again, I'm just digging back into my memory, but I 285 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:46.639 remember going to Stillwater and it was a game that 286 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:48.919 the UFA should have won, should have advanced the College 287 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:52.720 World Series, and they lost in a regional and meantime, 288 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:56.200 softball was probably winning that another national championship that same year. 289 00:11:57.960 --> 00:11:59.360 Yeah. No, it's it's funny. 290 00:11:59.559 --> 00:12:02.360 Did you care at any because I covered Anthony and 291 00:12:02.360 --> 00:12:05.720 I covered the first Kendrea of two titles in ninety 292 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:07.960 one ninety two. I think it was a couple of 293 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:10.480 tornadoes warnings in. 294 00:12:10.399 --> 00:12:13.519 May in late May and Oklahoma. Yeah, Oklahoma. It'll be interesting. 295 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:15.279 I don't I don't haven't looked at the softball schedule, 296 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:16.960 but I wonder if they're gonna have to go play 297 00:12:17.639 --> 00:12:19.440 you know, I'm sure they're gonna play playing some games 298 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:22.279 in the Midwest in April May before the tournament starts. 299 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:25.840 So that'll be some challenging road trips possibly. Yeah, yeah, 300 00:12:25.879 --> 00:12:28.440 good and baseball. Yeah, we'll see what happens. 301 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:33.159 Uh. Today we have Eric Rhodes, Uh, former guest competitor 302 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:34.480 of yours was he he was at the other. 303 00:12:34.360 --> 00:12:35.799 Seah, but you know, now I even think about it, 304 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:37.480 he and I did some of those trips to the 305 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:40.120 baseball and yeah, we had some baseball stuff. 306 00:12:40.200 --> 00:12:41.720 Yeah, we can talk about that, you can. You can 307 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:43.440 talk about the good old days, the little days of 308 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:43.919 doing that. 309 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:46.600 And then were in the second that we're going to 310 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:48.559 talk to Bob Elliott again. Last week we spoke to 311 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:55.399 him before the doctor j uh presentation. Yeah, PALAVERTI so no, 312 00:12:55.519 --> 00:12:57.279 I just kind of wanted to talk to Bob about 313 00:12:57.679 --> 00:13:00.639 how it went. Uh, you know, the it took to 314 00:13:00.679 --> 00:13:03.440 put this thing together and just get his time, his 315 00:13:03.480 --> 00:13:06.919 thoughts on today's world of college basketball. I mean back 316 00:13:06.960 --> 00:13:10.159 in seventy five, seventy six when he played, how would 317 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:11.840 have Nil worked back then? 318 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:14.799 You know he would have been a star obviously. Yeah, 319 00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:15.679 he would have got a car. 320 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:19.679 Yeah, he would have the accountant would have days they 321 00:13:19.679 --> 00:13:20.320 were getting stuff. 322 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:21.320 Oh that's true. 323 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:23.320 Did you in fact, did you read We Got to 324 00:13:23.320 --> 00:13:24.120 Go in about a minute? 325 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:25.000 Did you read? 326 00:13:25.039 --> 00:13:27.440 And I happened to a friend of mine, David Cooper. 327 00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:28.879 I don't know if you know who he is. He's 328 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:31.000 a UA grad, worked in the Sad Office back in 329 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:35.120 the day. He worked with the Senator Kyle. Senator Kyle 330 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:38.000 is one of those guys. He popped up my Twitter 331 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:39.559 feed the other day and I kind of went through 332 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:41.399 his things and I because I don't really follow him, 333 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:45.080 and he posted something on book. I guess it came 334 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:47.480 out in one of the ringers, had you this story? 335 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:47.840 I did not. 336 00:13:47.919 --> 00:13:50.159 What a fascinating story, and I missed it back. I 337 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:52.720 must have missed it back in October. You should read it. 338 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:57.159 They talked openly about what was done and how things 339 00:13:57.200 --> 00:14:01.159 were done before before and I yell, and before, but 340 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:03.759 everyone kind of knew that Hey, Dave, what do you need? 341 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:04.600 What can I get you? 342 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:06.679 Blah blah blah, And it was like it was not 343 00:14:06.759 --> 00:14:10.279 an open secret anymore. It was like, this is what happened. Yeah, 344 00:14:10.320 --> 00:14:12.679 everybody knew what happened, but we're talking about it now 345 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:16.039 before all the troubles, and I think, yeah, we kind 346 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:18.519 of knew, but this is like really making a public right. 347 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:21.519 There's been some books written, especially from the UCLA guys 348 00:14:21.679 --> 00:14:24.000 when Kareem wrote about you know true while Cindery Years 349 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:27.200 and Sam Gilbert was their big benefactor there who was 350 00:14:27.519 --> 00:14:30.000 giving these guys things. And Bill Walton I think, talked 351 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:33.360 about it. So there's always been there's guys behind the scenes. 352 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:35.720 But now it's right up there, right now, it's in 353 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:36.120 the public. 354 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:37.480 Now it's legal as all hell. 355 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:40.080 Yeah, well, that's part of the problem is because there's 356 00:14:40.120 --> 00:14:43.519 still thoughts, many thoughts that it's still happening under the table. 357 00:14:44.559 --> 00:14:48.519 Why does it even have to Yeah, but it's I mean, 358 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:51.360 as long as I guess there's like no regulation, it 359 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:53.120 seems like I guess there's a half to They're talking 360 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:56.320 about a salary cap with teams like Ohio State football team, 361 00:14:56.360 --> 00:14:58.240 you know, proving you know, you can win with a 362 00:14:58.279 --> 00:14:59.639 twenty million dollar and I. 363 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:03.799 But you can also look at have you seen fifteen? 364 00:15:03.840 --> 00:15:05.320 We got to go? 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