Speaker 1: All right, welcome back, and joining us now is Wayne Morrow.
Speaker 1: He is the CEO of the John Birch Society, and
Speaker 1: he's got something I think is very interesting to talk about,
Speaker 1: and that is Fabian socialism.
Speaker 2: You probably heard this.
Speaker 1: Term before, but maybe you don't understand what it is
Speaker 1: or the difference between it and the Marx and Carl
Speaker 1: Marx's approach, and how much more dangerous it is. You know,
Speaker 1: for me growing up, Fabian was a teen idol and
Speaker 1: I saw Fabian socialism. It's like, you know, what is that?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: But actually it's a famous Roman general. And I guess
Speaker 1: Fabian's parents were Italian and I guess maybe that was
Speaker 1: the namesake, or they might have been socialist. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but anyway it is. It is important to understand the
Speaker 1: distinction because they have very diferent tactics that they use
Speaker 1: to achieve the same ttalitarian goals. So joining us now
Speaker 1: is Waynemorrow, CEO of the John Very Society. Thank you
Speaker 1: for joining us, sir.
Speaker 4: Thank you, David, appreciate being here. And yeah, it's Fabians,
Speaker 4: much like the Console formulations, very little known about people
Speaker 4: in their respective countries. It's sort of that secretive, behind
Speaker 4: the scenes group.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: That's part of the plan, you know.
Speaker 1: And you mentioned you told me just as we were
Speaker 1: talking here, just before you came on. How you There
Speaker 1: is also a book that the John Versus Society sells
Speaker 1: called The Fabian Freeway. Yes, exactly in that way book.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's a book we've written past and we
Speaker 4: republished it.
Speaker 5: We have our own publishing cob called the Western Islands.
Speaker 4: And the Fabian Freeway is a book about the genesis
Speaker 4: of the Fabians and how impacted our even our US
Speaker 4: policies and our foreign policies.
Speaker 5: It all ties together. But it's a real good book.
Speaker 4: And it's about six hundred pages, so it's not a
Speaker 4: quick read, but it's in depth and I think it's
Speaker 4: for people are serious students about history and what goes
Speaker 4: on today. Surely I call we're the top of the
Speaker 4: puzzle box. You know, now we understand what goes on.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: We'll tell us at a bit about us about Fabian socialism.
Speaker 1: You know, what was it about that general that they
Speaker 1: liked and how does that tell us about their tactics
Speaker 1: and how is it different from Marxism.
Speaker 5: Well, that's a good question.
Speaker 4: Well, anyway, the genesiss as you mentioned, Quintus Fabius Maximus.
Speaker 4: He was a woman in general, very slow moving. He
Speaker 4: was very you know, quiet, but he was slow and enforceful,
Speaker 4: and much like the Fabians, took its name because that's
Speaker 4: the process they want. You know, their moniker originally was
Speaker 4: wolf in sheep's clothing, and they didn't.
Speaker 5: Work over too well. I figured that one out for
Speaker 5: a while and they said, now we'll go switch to
Speaker 5: a turtle.
Speaker 1: I think the Republicans Democrats could use that imagery as well.
Speaker 2: Thanks a donkey and elephant, they could have a wolf
Speaker 2: in both of them.
Speaker 5: They had to change their mind because it wasn't going
Speaker 5: over well. But you know, if you go back to
Speaker 5: the genesis of it all, Cecil.
Speaker 4: Rhodes and Lord Milner were involved in forming this elite group,
Speaker 4: and George Bernard Shaw was certainly one of the members,
Speaker 4: and the web Sydney webinall, and you know, they were
Speaker 4: very open about socialism and you know, there the dispute
Speaker 4: they had between Marks and in themselves was they wanted
Speaker 4: to believe in the more the ethical, slow moving, educational
Speaker 4: route versus violence, and so that was their goal. So
Speaker 4: you know, they they formed, you know, the London School
Speaker 4: of Economics, and out of that school, you know, they
Speaker 4: put in place various key legislators in government and even
Speaker 4: in our institutions around the UK. And they knew that
Speaker 4: by influencing public policy, it didn't make any difference who
Speaker 4: was the elected official because they were setting the policy
Speaker 4: and theise of that today.
Speaker 5: As a matter of fact.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so George Bernardshaw was he was also very
Speaker 4: large on eugenics. A matter of fact, I don't have
Speaker 4: that video clip, but if you could listen to the
Speaker 4: audio clip he talks about once every five years, this
Speaker 4: is this one. We'd have to stand it from this
Speaker 4: board to determine if we should be living worthy of staying.
Speaker 5: Alive or not. I mean actually said, you know, so
Speaker 5: he's going to imagine.
Speaker 1: That just destroyed my appreciation of my fair lady, right,
Speaker 1: can you imagine?
Speaker 5: And you could listen to them, believe me and look
Speaker 5: him up. You can listen to video audio clip. It's amazing.
Speaker 4: And you know, and so every prime minister, every Laby
Speaker 4: Party member of the UK is part of is a Fabian.
Speaker 4: And so the fabian's goal is is always has been,
Speaker 4: as we call it socialism, which a slow walk to Marxism,
Speaker 4: and what they wanted to do is govern every aspect
Speaker 4: of your life and forced globalism. So as you see
Speaker 4: now today with Ker Starver, who by the way, as
Speaker 4: a Fabian as well as the mayor of London, you're
Speaker 4: watching it happened, the country being destroyed. And I have
Speaker 4: podcasts with folks in London and I tell them this
Speaker 4: is all to q this is exactly what the plan is,
Speaker 4: to destroy their heritage, their history, to bring in Usher
Speaker 4: and world government.
Speaker 1: Now when you say yes, yes, when you say they're Fabians,
Speaker 1: is there still an organization that they belong as an
Speaker 1: active member like somebody would belong to the Joint John
Speaker 1: Birs Society. So they actually society there?
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, Tony Blair is a member of the Fabians,
Speaker 4: you know, he's very active with it.
Speaker 5: By the way, now what they were Economic.
Speaker 4: Forum interesting, But if you go online you can look
Speaker 4: up the Fabian Society. They have organization in Australia. They
Speaker 4: are young Fabians, you know, but they exist. I mean
Speaker 4: they exist today and when I speak to the British
Speaker 4: very few really understand the Fabians. Liz trust I met
Speaker 4: Liz Trust a past Prime Minister. I was at a
Speaker 4: CEO conference and I gave her my card and I said,
Speaker 4: I'll send you a copy of the Fabian Freeway.
Speaker 5: Now she's actively.
Speaker 4: Doing YouTube phenomenous, not because they said you never mentioned
Speaker 4: the Fabians, Liz, but you know, I think she knew
Speaker 4: exactly what they were. But the whole thing was David
Speaker 4: back in WOODIW Wilson's days when he actually worked with
Speaker 4: Colonel mandel House, another globalists, they formed this thing called
Speaker 4: the Inquiry. In the inquir was a group of men
Speaker 4: where British and Us and they disguised how are we
Speaker 4: going to work together and kind of really conquer the
Speaker 4: world as far as the political agenda and then eventually
Speaker 4: total and so that was a genesis of the Console
Speaker 4: and Formulations. So the Council for Relations which just house
Speaker 4: in New York City, they and the Fabians work together
Speaker 4: as we speak today and setting governance and policy. And
Speaker 4: they do that regardless what the elections look like. They're
Speaker 4: behind the scenes doing foreign policy. And that's why we
Speaker 4: always look at each other, why doesn't everything change, Well,
Speaker 4: it's because behind the scenes, the same folks have been
Speaker 4: working the agenda. That's what's going on and we have
Speaker 4: to bring the light to the UK people as well
Speaker 4: as the United States that this group, these groups are
Speaker 4: hard at work directing our foreign policy.
Speaker 5: But our future it is for world government. It's nothing
Speaker 5: to do with freedom a great.
Speaker 4: And our job of the Birch Society is through education
Speaker 4: to make people aware of who they are so we
Speaker 4: know what to do. It's not mystical, it's not magical.
Speaker 4: It's not a beauty contest when you elect somebody. But
Speaker 4: we have to know the threats are real and we
Speaker 4: see it today.
Speaker 1: Yes, it sounds very much like Antonio Graham's, the father
Speaker 1: of the Italian communist parties strategy, where he wanted to
Speaker 1: march through the institutions. How is it different than Gramsey's
Speaker 1: communism because and I mentioned Antonio Gramsey because Pete booty
Speaker 1: gay is what I call him, because he's very proud
Speaker 1: of that. But you know, his father has spent his
Speaker 1: entire career at Notre Dame. That was really his specialty,
Speaker 1: Antonio Gramsey, and he had him go to Harvard where
Speaker 1: he studied under sac Van Berkovich, who was also very
Speaker 1: much a fan of Italian communism. And he changed his
Speaker 1: name to Honor Socco and Benzetti, and so you know
Speaker 1: that I've focused. I learned something about Antonio Gramsey because
Speaker 1: of Booty Gay. But I also called him Booty Marx
Speaker 1: because that's really where they're trying to take us. But again,
Speaker 1: it is a slow march through the institutions. And so
Speaker 1: what is a difference is that one of them was
Speaker 1: Italian and the other one was predominantly English and American
Speaker 1: kind of anger.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, Gramsky was involved as an Italian. He was
Speaker 4: from Sardinia and he was grew up in that area
Speaker 4: of farming. Watch the farmer owners take advantage of the
Speaker 4: farmer workers. He actually has a book called David called
Speaker 4: the Gramsky Papers, Prison Papers, and that's about this thing
Speaker 4: I have behind me in my library, and it was
Speaker 4: written on toilet paper by the way to his sister,
Speaker 4: and it became the Grahamsky the Prison Papers. And Gramsky was,
Speaker 4: you know, a threat to you know, the Nazis in Germany,
Speaker 4: and that's why it was called the Frankfurt School. And
Speaker 4: Hitler tossed them out of the United States. They end
Speaker 4: up in Club University and uh. And so the goal
Speaker 4: then was then to doctrinate and reduced the morality of
Speaker 4: young college students and shoved down their throat socialism communism.
Speaker 4: So now we have the professors from US institutions in
Speaker 4: the country about remember that than the sixties, about the
Speaker 4: hippie moving. All that was all coming from the Frankfurt
Speaker 4: School through Columbia University destroyed. They knew they have This
Speaker 4: is what Grahamsky said, David, I can't We can't destroy
Speaker 4: the United States or Western societies. We talked to it economically,
Speaker 4: that's hard. Yeah, we have to change them morally, because
Speaker 4: if we could do that, we can destroy the morality,
Speaker 4: because that's the glule holds them together.
Speaker 5: Then we can destroy them.
Speaker 4: And that's what that's the whole story with the Frankfurt School,
Speaker 4: which ended up at Columbia University. If you think about
Speaker 4: it where we are back in the forties to where today,
Speaker 4: you can see the morality of United States going the
Speaker 4: other direction.
Speaker 5: And that's all according to plan.
Speaker 1: And that's why they got so heavily involved in Hollywood
Speaker 1: and the entertainment business as well.
Speaker 5: Absolutely correct, and that's what happened. So they knew that's.
Speaker 4: Exactly one of the key points that makes the United
Speaker 4: States a Western citilation so strong. Is our moral behavior
Speaker 4: and our beliefs. So that's what we see today. But
Speaker 4: that's the difference between the two. And so they're Marxist,
Speaker 4: but they used that social element. They said Karl Marx
Speaker 4: wasn't right. He thought economics is.
Speaker 5: The only way.
Speaker 4: No, we're going to have to do the moral end
Speaker 4: of it. So that's they morphed it into another strategy,
Speaker 4: but it's all the same. Man goal is toll slavery.
Speaker 1: And you can see that very much in what Stock
Speaker 1: van Berkovich focused on there at Harvard. Everything for him
Speaker 1: was a product of Puritanism, and so we've got to
Speaker 1: overthrow this whole, the puritan roots of America, and we've
Speaker 1: got to attack it at its foundation. But he was
Speaker 1: really what he was trying to do was to attack
Speaker 1: the moral foundation of the country. That's why he focused
Speaker 1: on that so much. But everything he talked about was
Speaker 1: in terms of that. You know, well this is because
Speaker 1: of the you know, the Mayflower, and he's got to
Speaker 1: get rid of that. But it is kind of interesting,
Speaker 1: and of course we see other approaches as well. You
Speaker 1: had people like Bill Ayers. Okay, uh, they decided that
Speaker 1: they would they said, well, we've had class struggles over
Speaker 1: you know, for Marxism in Europe. Uh, that's not going
Speaker 1: to work here. It's not working here that well, so
Speaker 1: let's go to a race struggle. So there's yet another
Speaker 1: approach that the Communists have taken. They've got so many
Speaker 1: different prongs to get all of them take us to
Speaker 1: the same hell, don't they roads.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we do the dirty work for them.
Speaker 4: We have you know, class struggles, men against women, that's
Speaker 4: another big one right now, children against their parents, black
Speaker 4: versus white or Tan. It's all about it's all about
Speaker 4: conflict and war. That's the you know, that's the that's
Speaker 4: their goal because they need that to enforce more rules
Speaker 4: and regulations in the government and less freedom. You guys
Speaker 4: can't play nice, Okay, Well, we're going to incite that.
Speaker 4: And you know that Marxists knew that one of the goals,
Speaker 4: and it's well written over a period of time, lots
Speaker 4: of documentation on how that works. But that's the goal.
Speaker 4: So they're playing to our frailties of humans. You know,
Speaker 4: rich versus poor, Black versus white, Tan versus white Chinese, whatever,
Speaker 4: doesn't make a difference because their endgame is world government
Speaker 4: and they know that they can't have a lot of us,
Speaker 4: so we have to we have to exterminate some. So
Speaker 4: I'll let those guys exterminate themselves. And that's what we see,
Speaker 4: you know. And we're seeing that now in the UK
Speaker 4: as we start a conversation about the Fabians. As I
Speaker 4: talk to the folks in the UK, we're watching their country.
Speaker 4: And I used to live there and work there in Oxfordshire,
Speaker 4: so I know the country rather well. And I'm watching
Speaker 4: those folks being destroyed by the invaders on purpose. But
Speaker 4: they're doing their dirty work, destroying all their history and
Speaker 4: in terror into terror into those folks in Ireland as
Speaker 4: well as the UK, and they're concerned. But I'm seeing
Speaker 4: a resurgence of the British citizen rising up. It was
Speaker 4: about a month ago, you recalling in London they had
Speaker 4: people marching with the British flag. It wasn't two hundred thousand, David,
Speaker 4: We had people that were there in the city.
Speaker 5: Was more like three million people were there.
Speaker 4: And you'll see farmer trucks now marching into London with
Speaker 4: their tractors and they don't want to be slaves. And
Speaker 4: I've talked to enough Europeans. They don't want to be
Speaker 4: a part of the European ac any long they're losing
Speaker 4: their sovereignty.
Speaker 5: They love their history, David, and they really.
Speaker 4: Respect and when I traveled throughout Europe when I lived there,
Speaker 4: they really love their history and they love their heritage.
Speaker 4: It's being destroyed systematically and it does not work.
Speaker 5: One thing I wanted.
Speaker 4: To tell you, which is interesting, I found out talking
Speaker 4: to several of the folks within past legislators. They tell
Speaker 4: me they get their news about the United States in
Speaker 4: two ways. In the New York Times, what was that
Speaker 4: how you do? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you get to see CNN.
Speaker 4: I go, what is that doing there? You know, I'm
Speaker 4: in a you know, I'm in Hungary or I'm in Italy,
Speaker 4: I'm watching CNN. But that's how they look at the
Speaker 4: United States. I said, well, that's totally upside down, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well I had a friend who worked in the
Speaker 1: Pentagon and you know, about twenty thirty years ago, and
Speaker 1: when I talked to him, he said, yeah, CNN is
Speaker 1: playing on the screen all over the Pentagon, all the
Speaker 1: different rooms and everything. Oh yeah, that's a.
Speaker 5: Network.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's it's uh, it's very important that who
Speaker 1: you listen to And you know, I've always tried to
Speaker 1: listen to various sources, and I would go to the
Speaker 1: I always preferred people who would tell me what they
Speaker 1: think and why they think it, rather than the people
Speaker 1: who try to be this mushy middle like Time and Newsweek,
Speaker 1: you know. So I was always looking at the Nation
Speaker 1: or National Review or something like that, even though I
Speaker 1: don't support their views, I'd like to see that conflict
Speaker 1: that was there because a lot of times that would
Speaker 1: help me to understand where I stood on the issue.
Speaker 1: So I try to get these people that are opposed
Speaker 1: to each other, but most people just go for something
Speaker 1: like Time or Newsweek or CNN. And that's kind of
Speaker 1: the mushy middle that's out there by the mockingbird programs
Speaker 1: that are out there for people. But that's why it's
Speaker 1: very important for people to educate themselves. And that's a
Speaker 1: very important thing that you do at the John birs Society.
Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about the John Birch Society
Speaker 1: and how it's soized local.
Speaker 4: We started nineteen Yeah, we started nineteen fifty eight. At
Speaker 4: our goal is education. You know, education is really critical
Speaker 4: for us, educating people about American values. Our job is
Speaker 4: limited government. Now, so people call us far right, that's
Speaker 4: not true. We're actually constitutional matters some form of government,
Speaker 4: not total. All the left is all the isms clee
Speaker 4: fascism right. And our job is to teach American Americanism
Speaker 4: is not taught any more.
Speaker 5: So we have free courses.
Speaker 4: Online the JBS dot org about teaching about the Constitution.
Speaker 4: And we said, how do you elect constitutional might of representative, state, local,
Speaker 4: or federal if you don't know the playbook?
Speaker 5: So how do you hold accountable?
Speaker 4: And it's not taught on purpose, So now it becomes
Speaker 4: a personality contest. We don't want that. So we teach
Speaker 4: people Americanism, and we give them the history, and we
Speaker 4: show them who's behind the curtain, like we mentioned the
Speaker 4: Fabians and the CFR, and who's foreign policy. And once
Speaker 4: people know what goes on, that's im what we call
Speaker 4: it a conspiracy. It's not theory any longer, but the
Speaker 4: conspiracy says this. The first goal is to deny its existence.
Speaker 4: Of course, so we said, look, let's expose them.
Speaker 2: It's not us.
Speaker 4: That's why I have a thousand books behind me, is
Speaker 4: that over the course of time, it proves that they
Speaker 4: does exist and they actually come out and talk about it.
Speaker 4: It's interesting as we as we look through time and
Speaker 4: look through history. I always go go back to my
Speaker 4: UK experts where Augus Huxley was a Fabian. I'll go
Speaker 4: back to that for a second answer your question. And
Speaker 4: what happened is he was writing. This guy was a
Speaker 4: young author, write and all the information about what he heard.
Speaker 4: He was so excited about it that he decided to
Speaker 4: write a book. And he said, I can't use my
Speaker 4: pen name. My name is Eric Blair. I can't use that.
Speaker 4: I have to use a pen name. So I think
Speaker 4: my name is George and or Joe George orwell is
Speaker 4: really the Eric Blair?
Speaker 5: And he wrote nineteen eighty four about the Fabians. And
Speaker 5: the question becomes is why is it in nineteen eighty four? Well,
Speaker 5: January fourth of eighteen eighty four is the foundation of
Speaker 5: the Fabians. And they said, with the one hundred years
Speaker 5: we have world government. That's why that book's titled nineteen
Speaker 5: eighty four.
Speaker 2: Oh so that's.
Speaker 1: I'd heard people say, because he wrote it in nineteen
Speaker 1: forty eight. But yeah one verse, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't be because he was indoctrinated by H. G.
Speaker 4: Wells and aux Huxley about when he writes about Big
Speaker 4: Brother New Speaker, that's all about thes And now that
Speaker 4: said Vogue, I'm saying, hey, look that wasn't done as
Speaker 4: a science fiction. That was really his telling you. And
Speaker 4: he couldn't, you know, hold himself. He said, I have
Speaker 4: to really talk about this. That's why it's and I
Speaker 4: believe that I personally believe that's why it's nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 4: It's one hundred years of existence. And of course I
Speaker 4: mentioned the consol On formulations is a child of the
Speaker 4: Fabians and now we have an American version that we have,
Speaker 4: you know, the European version work in Unison. So our
Speaker 4: job is in BRTUS society is educate people what's going on,
Speaker 4: to be personally responsible, to let constitutional moderates and constitutional
Speaker 4: minded representatives state, local and federal so we can we
Speaker 4: can monitor not only our behavior, but go back to
Speaker 4: constitutional based.
Speaker 5: Law and not rule by elitists. And that's what we
Speaker 5: see today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you know, and it's important for people
Speaker 1: to understand how many different ways they come at us
Speaker 1: and to set up at the tolitarian government. They have
Speaker 1: so many different tactics and strategies and of course one
Speaker 1: of those I think that you're talking about all the
Speaker 1: Suxley and others like that, H G. Wells and Huxley.
Speaker 1: The technocracy that was there. I mean, talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about technocracy as well. That's really kind of coming
Speaker 1: to us. People don't really know where to fit that,
Speaker 1: you know, because it doesn't really fit into the left
Speaker 1: right paradigm, and yet it seems to be on the
Speaker 1: ascendancy as well.
Speaker 2: Talk about a little bit about that.
Speaker 4: Well, well, you know the story about technology, you know,
Speaker 4: but ex have a fell used to be a member
Speaker 4: of the birth side, whereas a CIA said, smile a
Speaker 4: lot because your picture gets taken about three hundred.
Speaker 5: Times a day.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you go bank, grocery store, going a good gas.
Speaker 4: But technocracy is a tool for monitoring and governance. And
Speaker 4: that's why you c i AI data data centers and
Speaker 4: though every little thing that you've done, and they openly
Speaker 4: said this in the Bank of International Settlements, they want
Speaker 4: to have this digital currency. Will think a monitor any
Speaker 4: of your expenditures from one hundred dollars on up, so
Speaker 4: they ca it's determined by checking China.
Speaker 5: If you have a bad social score, then you're not
Speaker 5: going to buy anything.
Speaker 4: So if you think about technology is going to be
Speaker 4: their weapon or tool to keep you in line. That's
Speaker 4: why I see it happening, and they're doing it through
Speaker 4: a lot of different angles. It looks kind of cool,
Speaker 4: but that's really the goal.
Speaker 1: One of the things I began the program with today
Speaker 1: was talking about the fact that you know, I mentioned
Speaker 1: all the time about how artificial intelligence is really going
Speaker 1: to be a superpower for any kind of government tyranny
Speaker 1: to be able to monitor you and everything you're doing
Speaker 1: is you're just talking about, but also to manipulate opinion
Speaker 1: as well. And that's why it is very concerning to
Speaker 1: me to see that this latest executive order from Trump
Speaker 1: that essentially presumes to prohibit any state laws that would
Speaker 1: curb things that are happening with AI companies, because I
Speaker 1: think what that would really happen would be with the
Speaker 1: data centers. I think it's where the big conflict is
Speaker 1: going to come, and you know that is the bottleneck
Speaker 1: for them, and that would be one of the ways
Speaker 1: that you could limit them to buy a little bit
Speaker 1: of time to try to get some control of the
Speaker 1: situation or structure to keep some of these things at bay,
Speaker 1: but again to prohibit that at the federal level, and
Speaker 1: that is in direct conflict with a tenth Amendment. And
Speaker 1: of course the Democrats will tell you that now because
Speaker 1: they're not embower but as soon as they get embowered,
Speaker 1: they don't care about a tenth Amendment either. But it
Speaker 1: is really a real concern about this concentration of power.
Speaker 1: And you know the structure of the tenth Amendment, And
Speaker 1: of course the enforcement mechanism that is going to run
Speaker 1: through is going to be to use financial carets and
Speaker 1: sticks for people coming out of the federal government. That's
Speaker 1: the way they always get around the tenth Amendment, isn't.
Speaker 5: It absolutely correct?
Speaker 4: Yes, the technocracy, that's exactly what if we call technocracy,
Speaker 4: the techno buro rats, that's what they use that technology
Speaker 4: as I call it digital prison.
Speaker 5: That's basically where you're looking at, yes.
Speaker 4: And that's kind of where we're at, and that's what
Speaker 4: they're setting up, digital prison, so you can't go any
Speaker 4: wards and do anything within your fifteen minute city whatever
Speaker 4: you want to be, to monitor where you are and
Speaker 4: so all your freedom.
Speaker 1: They're constantly coming up with different justifications to take us
Speaker 1: to the same kind of orwelly in hell that they
Speaker 1: want to set up. And that's why, you know, when
Speaker 1: you look at the Chinese kindness, many times I'd look
Speaker 1: at them and say, okay, so are they Are they
Speaker 1: really communists anymore?
Speaker 2: Are they fascists?
Speaker 1: Because they've kind of merged economics and politics to a
Speaker 1: great extent there, and it's highly nationalistic and all the
Speaker 1: rest of these other things. So it's important to understand
Speaker 1: all these different strains, but then to not get boxed
Speaker 1: in by any of them. To understand these people mix
Speaker 1: and match. They'll take whatever they can use me these
Speaker 1: different strategies. And you know, when you look at them,
Speaker 1: if you were to construct a ven diagram, it seems
Speaker 1: like they're all starting to reach convergence instead of one
Speaker 1: little point of overlap, doesn't it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, communism is just a tool, that's all.
Speaker 4: It's a tool for global governance. It's not to be
Speaker 4: all end all, just like any other religious things that
Speaker 4: we see God, it's got nothing to do with at all.
Speaker 4: Matter of fact, the men who are globalists are not communists.
Speaker 4: They're not that's a tool. They're not fascists, but they
Speaker 4: use that mentality. But it's all the tool for world government.
Speaker 4: It's all going to come through the United Nations. And
Speaker 4: you see the UN that's the center point of it all.
Speaker 4: And we have a magazine called the New American and
Speaker 4: matter of fact, we're actually launching it in there called
Speaker 4: a New European.
Speaker 5: And I can show you this, Oh good, yeah, Matt.
Speaker 4: Here, David. These are little bubble diagrams. If you can
Speaker 4: see this all these are all the UN offices in
Speaker 4: the world.
Speaker 5: They're not just one location.
Speaker 4: And you know these rivers and brush, Yeah, what are
Speaker 4: these people doing all these locations. Well, you're on the menu,
Speaker 4: that's what's going on, so you can imagine all those
Speaker 4: you know, it's all over the United States.
Speaker 5: So to send this to you.
Speaker 4: A New American magazine, we have this one called the
Speaker 4: Global paragrab We did this one and it talks.
Speaker 5: And I show this around the Australians and the New
Speaker 5: Zealands and U K folks and the Lady and France.
Speaker 4: They were totally amazed the depth of the United Nations,
Speaker 4: all these offices all over the world. Yes, and they're
Speaker 4: busy carving up the world for global governance. So that's
Speaker 4: that's our part of our job at the Burchas site
Speaker 4: expose what's happening through education and make it a worries.
Speaker 4: It's not too late, because it's more of us than them,
Speaker 4: and they know that our job. Their job is to
Speaker 4: keep us off message and looking at sports figures.
Speaker 5: Or Hollywood or this or that.
Speaker 4: At the same time they're destroying our foundational principles of freedom.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah. I've had Alex Newman on many times. I've
Speaker 1: talked to Alex and a great guy there at the
Speaker 1: New American, and I've had other people as well from
Speaker 1: The American. It's great publication. And as you point out
Speaker 1: with that map and you see all the different areas
Speaker 1: where they have areas of responsibility and actual physical locations
Speaker 1: and everything. I think that's the key thing for people
Speaker 1: to understand is that it's not necessarily going to be
Speaker 1: as you point out in Brussels, when you say, well,
Speaker 1: there's the seat of Government or whatever, or the East
Speaker 1: River or New York. It really is not so much
Speaker 1: about that. It's about global governance. It's about this network
Speaker 1: of different organizations that are out there. And that's one
Speaker 1: of the things that I see about technocracy is really
Speaker 1: that not just you know, the electronic networking that's out there,
Speaker 1: but actually the political networking that is there, and the
Speaker 1: interlocking of these different financial interests that are out there,
Speaker 1: so they can all have their own goals and things,
Speaker 1: but it is all pushing us towards this global governance,
Speaker 1: and the technology is really giving them power that they've
Speaker 1: never had before. That's the key thing that's really concerning me.
Speaker 4: So we saw that when COVID nineteen was a good
Speaker 4: status said beta test for them, how you had the
Speaker 4: whole world under control. I'm sure they were absolutely laughing
Speaker 4: and amaze how easy it was.
Speaker 2: I know that happened.
Speaker 1: I know I was absolutely astounded how easy it was
Speaker 1: for them as well. And again I think, you know,
Speaker 1: you look at the stimulus checks and all the rest
Speaker 1: of this stuff. That was training wheels for universal basic income,
Speaker 1: which was something that Elon Musk has always been focused on.
Speaker 1: When you had Andrew Yang come out so that he
Speaker 1: was going to run for president and that was going
Speaker 1: to be his issue, the main issue. He branched out
Speaker 1: in some other things later on, but as say, as
Speaker 1: he came out said universal basic income, Elon Musk canted
Speaker 1: him a million dollars. You know, he wanted him to
Speaker 1: push that idea. Well, it got pushed really big in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: Well, that's all part of the that's all part of
Speaker 4: the program, the universal income to the un Yeah, of course,
Speaker 4: it is the whole job that they want you to
Speaker 4: be industrious. They want you to be collective not individualists,
Speaker 4: and we fight collectivism. We believe in individualism, not collectivism.
Speaker 4: That's all part of the rule. You know, there's a
Speaker 4: called the herd mentality, and that's exactly what they need
Speaker 4: to control us.
Speaker 5: It's all that's the end game is that.
Speaker 4: World government, and they will determine, as I mentioned early on,
Speaker 4: we started in the show George Manarshaw before the Eugenics Committee,
Speaker 4: who lives and who dies?
Speaker 5: And you may not have that choice.
Speaker 4: If you're a strong crowd Christian or belief you may
Speaker 4: not fit into it because they're amoral. They don't have
Speaker 4: any beliefs. The state is their belief. You may not
Speaker 4: fit into their program. If you can't be indoctrinated correctly,
Speaker 4: you may be exterminated.
Speaker 5: And that's they're written about that.
Speaker 4: So it's these guys play for keeps and it's serious,
Speaker 4: and our job has been to expose their plan since
Speaker 4: the late fifties really what they want to do it.
Speaker 4: They're very open about it, not more so than ever,
Speaker 4: because they feel like young adults have been so indoctrinated
Speaker 4: through the universities of school that socialism is good. Like
Speaker 4: we saw the last mayor race in New York City.
Speaker 4: Can you imagine, Yeah, nothing's free.
Speaker 1: You know, the schools have indoctrinated that. But then we
Speaker 1: also have the situation where the you know, the gen
Speaker 1: Z people are finding it very kids are finding it
Speaker 1: very difficult to find a job, even if they go
Speaker 1: to college, are finding it difficult to find a job.
Speaker 1: And that is something I think that really drives this
Speaker 1: because again, one of the things that socialism has always
Speaker 1: pushed out there, I think is envy. You know, they
Speaker 1: find these different at its core, I think like Salolensky,
Speaker 1: you know, dedicated his book Rules for Radicals to Satan,
Speaker 1: and I think at the core of it, there's all
Speaker 1: these different satanic appeals to the evil aspects of our nature,
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's about greed, whether it's about envy,
Speaker 1: whether it's about hatred, racism, tribalism, all these different things,
Speaker 1: and they identify these things and seek to exploit them
Speaker 1: with these different approaches that they take.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: And so that's what I think is you have to
Speaker 1: be aware of the tactics and the strategies that are
Speaker 1: there for ever going to be able to defeat them.
Speaker 1: Otherwise we're just putting in their hands, aren't we.
Speaker 5: Yes, exactly, and you're exactly correct. That's exactly what they do.
Speaker 4: They pit one group against another one philosophy because it's
Speaker 4: all about conflict. It's all about the conflict that's critically important.
Speaker 4: But we have to identify what it is and expose
Speaker 4: what it is that's really important, so we know the game.
Speaker 5: It's a sure aids. You remember they remember the movie
Speaker 5: where we.
Speaker 4: Had with Julie Garland fall Yellowick Road, you know, and
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, who's the man behind the curtain.
Speaker 4: Don't pay attention to him? But we expose who's behind
Speaker 4: the curtain, you know. And that's really what it's all about.
Speaker 4: It's really a plan. It's not done by accident. And
Speaker 4: we see a lot of kubuki theater. But the thing
Speaker 4: is is that we identify really what it is. And
Speaker 4: to tell you what, it's very difficult for people to
Speaker 4: believe it because some of their heroes of the past.
Speaker 5: Who are not good people.
Speaker 1: And I'm starting the heroes of the present or the.
Speaker 4: President I mentioned by George Bernardshaw, the guy was you know,
Speaker 4: think about that one. I mean, I can go on,
Speaker 4: but there's a lot of them and they were not
Speaker 4: who they thought they were.
Speaker 1: I mean, so, yeah, he wrote Pygmalion, which was then
Speaker 1: turned into My Fair Lady, you know, the musical on
Speaker 1: the play, and you know, enjoy the music with that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the guy who was there. And even when
Speaker 1: you look at all these different science fiction novels, they've
Speaker 1: basically become a blueprint for them. But when we're talking
Speaker 1: about how that you like to set up conflict between
Speaker 1: different groups, that's why I think we really need to
Speaker 1: have our guard up about partisan politics, because that is
Speaker 1: another way they do it. They don't just do it
Speaker 1: by race or by sex or this or that. They
Speaker 1: do it also with political factions. And you know, when
Speaker 1: people buy into these things and start to excuse the
Speaker 1: actions of their leaders, what they really need to do
Speaker 1: is to look at the longer historical view and say,
Speaker 1: where were the Fabian socialists trying to take us? You know,
Speaker 1: where were the Gramsey socialist trying to take us? Where
Speaker 1: were the Marxist trying to take us? And if the
Speaker 1: actions of the person that's the hero of your party
Speaker 1: is going to move us in the direction of these
Speaker 1: socialists and Marxists, they need to pull back and say
Speaker 1: we're not going to follow that, even though that's part
Speaker 1: of our tribe here or whatever. I think that's very exactly.
Speaker 4: You know, elections change governments, but institutions change nations. That's
Speaker 4: really important. They actually famous even said that. They also
Speaker 4: said power shifts from representation to management, and that's.
Speaker 5: Where we are, no matter it's left or right.
Speaker 4: You know, in the politics scene, the policy being set
Speaker 4: forward just to make a difference who runs back and forth.
Speaker 4: It's all kabuki theater for us because they're not setting
Speaker 4: the policy someone else's and we identify who they are.
Speaker 4: That's really critically important. So it's all a big game
Speaker 4: in front of us. But we have to identify really
Speaker 4: who they are, what's happening, and that's all part of
Speaker 4: what we do, educate people and making aware there's more
Speaker 4: of us than them. But our job is to wake
Speaker 4: people up and sometimes they don't want to. They want
Speaker 4: to hear about it. You know, our job is to
Speaker 4: wake people. I've been telling really what's going on. Much
Speaker 4: like the story gave to the UK folks about the Fabians.
Speaker 4: I said, look, they're destroying your country on plan. It's
Speaker 4: not by accident.
Speaker 1: But that's why, you know, I question you, so, do
Speaker 1: they still have a Fabian society that people belong to
Speaker 1: because typically these things are done in secret, you know,
Speaker 1: or quietly, so you have secret societies, you know, things
Speaker 1: like the Masons or whatever, but you know people will
Speaker 1: be members of this. But I don't think do we
Speaker 1: have a Fabian society that you have politicians that are
Speaker 1: part of here in the US or is it mainly
Speaker 1: the CFR that you'll.
Speaker 4: See mostly the CFR. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what it's
Speaker 4: a it's more what it's a partner of with the Fabians.
Speaker 4: So back to Cecil Rhodes and Lord Milner and and
Speaker 4: you know Wiljow Wilson took Mande House. They had the
Speaker 4: thing called the Inquiry back in the nineteen hundreds or so,
Speaker 4: and they formed this group and they want to the
Speaker 4: United States and consol for relations born in nineteen twenty one,
Speaker 4: and they're going to set foreign policy up March through
Speaker 4: through David Rockefeller, and today you have members of the cabinet.
Speaker 4: Forty fifty percent of the p and presidential cabinets were
Speaker 4: part of the CFR, had Clinton and Eisenhower. All those
Speaker 4: guys were all involved in the CFR. They knew exactly
Speaker 4: what was going on. So they were carrying the water
Speaker 4: for the CFR Policy Group, and that's exactly what goes on.
Speaker 4: So it was all it looked good, you know, But
Speaker 4: reality is one of the stories goes this way. You know,
Speaker 4: every every year, every year, several years, we have an election.
Speaker 4: It's like when you're in high school. You know, the
Speaker 4: president of the student council, remember those back in high school. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and by the way, I'm going to have longer lunch hours,
Speaker 4: We're going to have less homework, right, And all of
Speaker 4: a sudden they get elected, and who's running the show,
Speaker 4: the super the principal high school never happened, And that's
Speaker 4: the story with the CFR. We have a beauty contest,
Speaker 4: which is a public you know, either presidential election or
Speaker 4: congressional and then who's running the show behind the scenes.
Speaker 4: It's really it's really those groups, those unelected bureaucratic officials
Speaker 4: are unelected, and we expose what they are.
Speaker 5: We have that book called the Shadows of Power.
Speaker 4: Another book that we published years ago called the Shadows
Speaker 4: of Power exposes the Console on Formulations, War one or two,
Speaker 4: Korean Vietnam, how they all morphed into all part of
Speaker 4: the plan. That's called the Shadows of Power. So now,
Speaker 4: so the Fabians is Freeways about the Fabians. The Shadows
Speaker 4: of Power is about the Counsole Formulations. And once people
Speaker 4: look at history, they get pretty angry because they know
Speaker 4: it's all been a theater for not for us, but
Speaker 4: for them. Yeah, and they play the game to make
Speaker 4: it look like you're running the show, but you're not.
Speaker 4: You're just a victim of the globalst plan.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: And when I think of the John Birsch Society, you
Speaker 1: guys have done a great job of educating people about
Speaker 1: the Council on Formulations CFR stuff, And yet we still
Speaker 1: have these people run for office and you'll see them
Speaker 1: proudly list that as part of their CV You know that, Yeah, bro,
Speaker 1: the Counciling Foreign Relations and its me. It's like I'm
Speaker 1: part of the Satanic group over herely that it's you know,
Speaker 1: they see it as a you know, because it really
Speaker 1: does have a lot of uh pnash or whatever or
Speaker 1: clout in Washington to be a member of that club,
Speaker 1: and they're proud of it, and we need to call
Speaker 1: them out on it, and we need to understand the
Speaker 1: history of it. We need to understand really just how
Speaker 1: evil the actions have been and how that has really
Speaker 1: been there. So I guess in the UK they still
Speaker 1: have people who are part of the Fabian Society, but
Speaker 1: here you'll see it in the CFR and they'll be
Speaker 1: doing the same type of thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Bill Clinton was a member of Madam Albury was a member,
Speaker 4: Robert Rubin was a member of.
Speaker 5: Cohen Larry Sommers, George W.
Speaker 4: Bush was going on Lea Rice, Colin Power, Robert Gates,
Speaker 4: Harry Paulson, Brooke Obama was president, describing candidate Tommy Gaither,
Speaker 4: Susan Rice, you know, John Bolton, Herry Master, and Mike Pompeo.
Speaker 5: I do byan, you know, I see what's going going
Speaker 5: on here.
Speaker 4: So they're in strategic locations to monitor and steer public policy.
Speaker 5: That's what it's going on.
Speaker 4: So when you see this, we hear the stung guards
Speaker 4: of his Democrat Republican and you get to the same
Speaker 4: place all the time.
Speaker 5: Right, that's right, that's the key.
Speaker 1: And I remember when Reagan got elected, people were excited like,
Speaker 1: he's not CFR, you know, And I can't remember the
Speaker 1: last time we had a present that wasn't CFR. And
Speaker 1: yet what he did was you but CFR people in
Speaker 1: all the different positions around him, you know.
Speaker 5: Y's exactly.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 5: Trump is not a member of the CFR. I can
Speaker 5: tell you that.
Speaker 4: So he's not a member, but he's got people around
Speaker 4: and make sure this get too far off of the
Speaker 4: script although he does.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think what Trump is really as much as
Speaker 1: anything as the technocracy, because these guys are writing the
Speaker 1: checks there. I'm very concerned that you know, we all
Speaker 1: know now what the CVDC.
Speaker 2: Is, and yet.
Speaker 1: I think the same thing can be accomplished with a
Speaker 1: stable coin, and they can make a lot of money
Speaker 1: putting stable.
Speaker 2: Coin out there at the same time.
Speaker 1: So it's one way that they can get rich. They
Speaker 1: can get rich off of that, or they can't get
Speaker 1: rich off of the CBDC. And since everybody's kind of
Speaker 1: wise to the game of the CBDC, they don't realize
Speaker 1: that stable coin is still going to have those capabilities
Speaker 1: to be able to turn off your ability to trade
Speaker 1: and do other things like that. Tell us a little
Speaker 1: bit about the John Vers Society. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: you guys have had a lot of fights and that.
Speaker 1: Have you been hit with any kind of d banking
Speaker 1: or stuff like that, because I mean I have, and
Speaker 1: I've been kicked off of PayPal and Vemo and other
Speaker 1: formats like that because of things that I was saying
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty about the lockdown and the pandemic and
Speaker 1: the vaccine, climate change and all the rest of the stuff.
Speaker 1: Are you seeing that kind of debanking and deplatforming in
Speaker 1: various places.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, sometimes we say that we get too much
Speaker 4: of truth, that YouTube will take us down for a
Speaker 4: while or something like that, and we'll come back on again.
Speaker 4: You know, we don't have that issue with banking, per say,
Speaker 4: but they ignore us because they don't need an attention.
Speaker 4: We'll get attacked, you know, we start to grow, so
Speaker 4: they try to tell we don't exist any longer.
Speaker 1: That's when I first learned the John Birch Society was
Speaker 1: when Willimuth Buckley, he was on a tear.
Speaker 2: Well, I agree with these guys and not with Buckley.
Speaker 5: So he's a CFO. Remember, by the way, I don't
Speaker 5: think about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably as well, so skull and.
Speaker 5: Bones, you know from Yale, you know, I go on.
Speaker 5: He was a good guy, right, yeah, you know this
Speaker 5: organization exists today. Don't look at it. Don't listen to
Speaker 5: those guys over there. Yeah yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's why he was. He was a good guy.
Speaker 1: That's why MPR had him on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, people go we wrote a book about that
Speaker 4: called The Pipe Piper of the Establishment. We wrote that
Speaker 4: book Jackie mass our past president.
Speaker 5: You may have known him.
Speaker 4: He wrote the book about Buckley, and he was you know,
Speaker 4: he was all put together to make sure that he
Speaker 4: steers the conservative movement, their direction of the c f R,
Speaker 4: in which he was a member of the c A far.
Speaker 4: So you know it's like, you know, as I said,
Speaker 4: it's not a matter. It's all controlled, you know, it's
Speaker 4: and he was control opposition.
Speaker 1: He's a very poster child for that, isn't He controlled?
Speaker 4: Absolutely correct And people still hold him up as he
Speaker 4: was some you know, super conservative.
Speaker 5: He was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember, you know, wrestling ball really idolized him.
Speaker 1: It was like, you don't realize that this guy is
Speaker 1: that that's kind of telling that anyway. It's a It
Speaker 1: really is a great organization and I really do appreciate
Speaker 1: what you guys do. And again, the the the Quiet
Speaker 1: Ideology Reshaping policy from London Parlors to d C Power.
Speaker 1: Is that a book or is that an article? Because
Speaker 1: that's how I found out about about.
Speaker 5: That sounds like it sounds like the Fabian Freeway. That's
Speaker 5: what it sounds like.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's over.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the JBS has been around for a long time.
Speaker 4: We have area chapters. We educate people on the voting
Speaker 4: record of their representatives, and so we try to encourage
Speaker 4: people to be active participants in the process. How do
Speaker 4: you change your representative, David is if you don't understand
Speaker 4: the constitution or at least go visit them, say why
Speaker 4: did you vote on constitutionally?
Speaker 5: So we have this thing called the.
Speaker 4: Scorecard we printed out every quarter and it talks about
Speaker 4: the voting record constitutionally. We picked them on Congress, you know,
Speaker 4: Senate as well as the House on where they are,
Speaker 4: so people know if they're voting constitution or not. And
Speaker 4: it's our personal responsibility as Americans to uphold member the
Speaker 4: regil representatives work for us and say, hey, why are
Speaker 4: you voting this way?
Speaker 5: And would they have not?
Speaker 4: I mean representative called me and said, no one ever,
Speaker 4: very rarely calls me on the phone and talks about anything.
Speaker 4: And so we can't it's not you know, we can't
Speaker 4: sit back. And I said, and one day we have
Speaker 4: a handsome young conservatives show up in Congress. It doesn't
Speaker 4: happen that way. Yeah, So my biggest goal is to
Speaker 4: fight complacency Americans and life is too good and even
Speaker 4: though the economics today is hurting them now they're listening,
Speaker 4: but life is too good and they have to you know,
Speaker 4: we have to get behind and spend a little time
Speaker 4: protecting our sovereignty and our freedoms. But we have to
Speaker 4: know who we are first, and that's what we try
Speaker 4: to teach American as principles and hold up representatives who
Speaker 4: work for us and make sure that happens.
Speaker 1: I agree, yeah, And that's what I liked about the
Speaker 1: John Verse Society was the focus on local activism as well,
Speaker 1: and you know, knowing what is happening locally in your
Speaker 1: state as well. And I've seen what you're talking about
Speaker 1: in terms of representatives who say, nobody ever calls me.
Speaker 1: I saw the power of that, and I've talked about
Speaker 1: this on the program. When I lived in North Carolina,
Speaker 1: I was involved with homeschooling, and at that point in time,
Speaker 1: all of North Carolina's government was Democrat Democrat House and Senate,
Speaker 1: as well as the governor and all the rest of stuff.
Speaker 1: So they decided, the teachers union decided that they were
Speaker 1: going to shut down homeschooling, and it looked like they
Speaker 1: were going to be able to do it because it
Speaker 1: was all Democrats and an active minority of homeschoolers, which
Speaker 1: was really small at the time. There wasn't a lot
Speaker 1: of people homeschooling. There's so many more who were doing
Speaker 1: it today. But everybody got actively involved and started writing,
Speaker 1: and it made them look so much bigger than they
Speaker 1: actually were and actually beat down the teachers' unions in
Speaker 1: a Democrat state that were going to try to regulate
Speaker 1: homeschooling out of existence. And so that was a very
Speaker 1: important first hand lesson to learn. But it's difficult to
Speaker 1: get people to do that. And that's one of the
Speaker 1: things that John Birch Society does, I think is excellent,
Speaker 1: which is to educate each other about what is happening
Speaker 1: locally within your state and how you can take action
Speaker 1: at a local level. I remember probably my earliest memory
Speaker 1: of John Birch Society was to support your local Sheriff stuff.
Speaker 1: Being concerned about the federalization.
Speaker 2: Of the police.
Speaker 1: That is something that is now really escalating, isn't it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we actually have we have that group, it
Speaker 4: still exists called support your Local Police. We want to
Speaker 4: keep them independent that federalize. We have a group, we
Speaker 4: have an affiliate, not for profit called support your Local Police.
Speaker 4: And we also have a you mentioned school with the
Speaker 4: homeschool we've been in existing for fifteen years called the
Speaker 4: Freedom Project Academy.
Speaker 5: He goes from kindergarten high school. We have live you
Speaker 5: know education of.
Speaker 4: Course online or you can buy recorded version of it.
Speaker 4: And that's been around. So we're educating all over the world.
Speaker 4: Adults are having their children signed up to really Americanism
Speaker 4: who we are not fabricated history. And we're teaching how
Speaker 4: the kids how to write cursive and do math or
Speaker 4: read books.
Speaker 5: How about that for a change. And so we yeah.
Speaker 4: It hasn't happened in above the school, I can tell
Speaker 4: you that. And we spend more time in education than
Speaker 4: social emotional learning. But the thing is, and it goes
Speaker 4: you mentioned Alison Wanta wrote a lot of books about that.
Speaker 4: But the thing is is that so we look at
Speaker 4: education where our children, our adults bring into view really
Speaker 4: who we are, what we're all about, because we've been indoctrinated,
Speaker 4: and we know that brainwashing has existed through all the
Speaker 4: mass media, David, all the mass media, as you know
Speaker 4: very well because you're in the media business, that's all
Speaker 4: controlled by.
Speaker 5: The console and foreignulations.
Speaker 4: Every one of the New York Times, other networks, including Fox,
Speaker 4: is all controlled media and they all say the same thing,
Speaker 4: same to deal. So guess what, that's the only thing
Speaker 4: you hear. That's the only thing you believe. So we said,
Speaker 4: no time out. Let's talk about reality here. And it's
Speaker 4: hard for some people to swallow. But once you've been
Speaker 4: red pilled, all of a sudden, the world changes, like
Speaker 4: now we see what's going on here. So that's our
Speaker 4: job in the Burch's side, we did.
Speaker 5: With kids with school. You're right about the law enforce.
Speaker 4: And we want to keep an independent We teach the constitution,
Speaker 4: We get people involved. It's about education, get people activated
Speaker 4: and evolved.
Speaker 5: That's really important.
Speaker 4: I absolutely agree, get activated and involve, and that's how
Speaker 4: we save our country as well as the people over
Speaker 4: in England. They see the problem now because they're watching
Speaker 4: their country be destroyed.
Speaker 5: And I mentioned the Fabians.
Speaker 4: We first came on because that's coming to tractions for
Speaker 4: the United States. What you see in Europe as coming
Speaker 4: to attractions for here.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, delayed just a little bit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a warning, that's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so you know, getting back to the federalization of
Speaker 1: the police. You know, we look at these things and
Speaker 1: we say, okay, even if you like the guy who's
Speaker 1: doing it, and even if you agree with the stated goal,
Speaker 1: you have to look at this and say you have
Speaker 1: but that policy is going to establish a precedent of
Speaker 1: the federalization of law enforcement, and so I know where
Speaker 1: that leads, right, So we pull this back. Okay, So
Speaker 1: let's walk this back, and we have to oppose this
Speaker 1: even if we agree with the stated purpose. That's the
Speaker 1: wrong way to do it. And it is so important
Speaker 1: that we not sacrifice the that the the uh you
Speaker 1: know that the means does not It's not just that
Speaker 1: the end is not just by the means. That's how
Speaker 1: these people always get us there, and and it's understanding
Speaker 1: those principles and what America is about, understanding the Constitution
Speaker 1: and what that's about, and why those things are there.
Speaker 1: There's important safeguards against tyranny. And understand that if we
Speaker 1: wipe those things away, because it's going to make it
Speaker 1: more expedient for us to achieve this particular policy goal,
Speaker 1: we are going to pay the price along of them,
Speaker 1: aren't we.
Speaker 4: A nationalized police force is one of Marx's, one of
Speaker 4: Karl Marx's plan, and so that's where we're trying to avoid.
Speaker 5: Keep them local and independent.
Speaker 4: Your sheriff is a very important person in your county,
Speaker 4: very important person. And I always I encourage people to
Speaker 4: know who the sheriff is and talk to them and
Speaker 4: making sure that you understand and they understand about America's principles,
Speaker 4: our and our rights and they have You have to
Speaker 4: know who the sheriff is.
Speaker 5: So they know we are much like a legislators and
Speaker 5: state legislatres.
Speaker 4: You know, go back to our basics of our country,
Speaker 4: our United States, where form is independent states, sovereign states.
Speaker 4: Over a period of time, David, that we've given the
Speaker 4: states have given power from themselves to the federal government.
Speaker 4: That's not the way it was supposed to operate. The
Speaker 4: government supposed to defend use against public and domestic enemies,
Speaker 4: you know, and that's very limited powers. Look at our
Speaker 4: one section of the constitution, very limited powers. Congress has
Speaker 4: right and government, and so we have actually given more
Speaker 4: power to the federal government. Why it's all upside side
Speaker 4: and distorted today. So we spend time with our local
Speaker 4: legislators in each state to make sure they would pull
Speaker 4: the constitutional responsibility. Each state has a constitution. The word
Speaker 4: democracy does not exist. It's always a republic.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 4: Another thing we teach people that word does not appear
Speaker 4: in our constitution or any state constitution.
Speaker 5: And people don't even know that.
Speaker 4: And I said, you have to understand states are sovereign.
Speaker 4: Make sure you make this is where it begins. So
Speaker 4: if you look at our history, it was done with
Speaker 4: that phenomenal idea that keep them sovereign, independent states. So
Speaker 4: those basic things I just set to you. Most Americans
Speaker 4: I talked to do not understand that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't understand all that's right, Absolutely do not,
Speaker 1: and it's so important that we do. We understand the
Speaker 1: foundation of principles and why these things were set up
Speaker 1: the way they were actually is a good plan, you know,
Speaker 1: even though the Constitution has completely violated, it's still a
Speaker 1: good plan and we should try it someday in our lifetime.
Speaker 5: I think it's like the Ten Commandments. It's not the
Speaker 5: ten suggestions, you know.
Speaker 2: That's right. That's right, And they all say.
Speaker 5: The Constitution you have to know it before you get
Speaker 5: hold it, you know.
Speaker 1: And everybody pretty much, whether the local or state or
Speaker 1: especially federal, they take an oath to the Constitution as
Speaker 1: a requirement of their authority, and so when they violate that,
Speaker 1: they no longer have a legitimate authority. But they do
Speaker 1: have a lot of power, and so we need to
Speaker 1: understan and that we can have power collectively. And that's
Speaker 1: one of the things I think the John Birch Society
Speaker 1: does bring to the table. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: joining us. It's been a fascinating discussion. Mister Morrow. Wayne Morrow,
Speaker 1: Thank you Wayne Morrow, the CEO of John Birch Society.
Speaker 2: Always great talking to you guys.
Speaker 1: We're gonna like a quick break, folks, and we'll be
Speaker 1: right back on talk a little bit about what's going
Speaker 1: on with cars here in just a second, so we'll
Speaker 1: be right back.
Speaker 3: Stay with us.
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Speaker 8: Welcome back, folks. We got a lot of comments, and
Speaker 8: Jersey Boy thank you so much for the support, he says.
Speaker 8: Can you please ask if you've ever heard of William
Speaker 8: Cooper who wrote behold a Pale Horse.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I didn't see that comment at time.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 8: And does he know about Jimmy from Brooklyn, who JBS interviewed,
Speaker 8: who I'm trying to get on your show.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, Goad, I'm sorry I missed that. I'm very sorry. Yes, apologies.
Speaker 8: Owen sixty one, thank you so much for the support,
Speaker 8: He just says, thank.
Speaker 2: You, well, thank you, Owen, appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you so much.
Speaker 8: And Jersey Boy again says I remember a few years
Speaker 8: ago from JBS and email history of and I need
Speaker 8: to history of Republicans, it was started by a communist?
Speaker 8: Does he know what it was? And what does he
Speaker 8: think of JFK.
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting. A book I really enjoyed was
Speaker 1: an alternative history book by Harry Turtledove. He's written a
Speaker 1: lot of alternative history books and this one was about
Speaker 1: the Civil Wars called How Few Remain And in it,
Speaker 1: you know, you may know the history that Antietam as
Speaker 1: Buddy as a battle was nearly was it could have
Speaker 1: been a victory for the South, up that one of
Speaker 1: the couriers dropped the orders that he was carrying and
Speaker 1: they fell into the Union's hands. And so in his book,
Speaker 1: guys say, hey, you dropped those orders, Better pick those up.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine why would happen if the other guy's
Speaker 1: got that right? And so that causes an early end
Speaker 1: to the war, and pretty much all the major figures
Speaker 1: of both North and South survive, and the causes the
Speaker 1: early end of the war and the South to gain
Speaker 1: its independence. And in the in his alternative history, Lincoln
Speaker 1: is entirely discredited because he lost the war, but then
Speaker 1: he makes a comeback. As this book is picking up
Speaker 1: a couple of decades on at that point in time,
Speaker 1: I think he's got Stonewall Jackson as the as the
Speaker 1: President of the Confederacy, and Lincoln makes a political comeback
Speaker 1: as head of the Socialist Party. And that's one of
Speaker 1: the things that made that book so interesting was he
Speaker 1: really did understand these people, what motivated them, and the
Speaker 1: things behind them. And so, yeah, there was an early
Speaker 1: connection with that. And if you look at I always
Speaker 1: think about the Pledge of Allegiance that was put in
Speaker 1: by the Grand Army of the Republic. Most the veterans,
Speaker 1: especially if they were well known or successful, played an
Speaker 1: important part in the war. They got very big positions
Speaker 1: and the subsequent governments that were there, and the Grand
Speaker 1: Army of the Republic, which was the organization of Civil
Speaker 1: War veterans for the North, had a tremendous amount of influence.
Speaker 1: They were the ones who instituted the Pledge of Allegiance
Speaker 1: and it initially did not have under God in it
Speaker 1: until the mid nineteen fifties. And so the emphasis was
Speaker 1: on one nation indivisible and that you know, very harsh
Speaker 1: with that, and the pledge was done with one arms
Speaker 1: extended out palmed down, just like the Nazi salute. They
Speaker 1: changed it to hand over your heart because of the
Speaker 1: Nazi salute. But yeah, socialism and a lot of other
Speaker 1: things that were there, and they as well as the
Speaker 1: concentration of power and really talking about the destruction of
Speaker 1: the states as sovereign entities and the understanding that the
Speaker 1: states had created the federal government. All that stuff disappeared
Speaker 1: with Civil War.
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Speaker 2: I didn't see that.
Speaker 8: Yes, the conversation was too good, Goldsmith says. Curiously, people
Speaker 8: often claim Marx was focused solely on economics, but its
Speaker 8: entire worldview is cultural, based on envy and hate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, conflict, Yeah, like going and dialectic. That's why you know,
Speaker 1: we can we have to look at the different ways
Speaker 1: that they divide us. You know, it's very explicit what
Speaker 1: Bill Ayers and Burning Door and weathermen wanted to do.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't have a race war. Marx focused. The thing
Speaker 1: about economics was there, but that was really a class struggle, right,
Speaker 1: and the economics was a part of that class struggle.
Speaker 1: But it's always about dividing us. And that's why I said,
Speaker 1: you know, we're to very careful about the Republican versus
Speaker 1: Democrat thing, any kind of division that they can use
Speaker 1: like that. And when we attach ourselves to a different
Speaker 1: ethnic group or different political group, these different types of things,
Speaker 1: those attachments draw us away from the principles that can
Speaker 1: be the bulwark against this kind of socialist hell that
Speaker 1: they want to put us in.
Speaker 8: And Mama c. Nineteen ninety six is I never learned
Speaker 8: so much is when I was homeschooling my kids.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, that's excellent. And that was the
Speaker 1: thing that I really missed about it was that was
Speaker 1: where I put all my effort before I had the show.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, that was at one point
Speaker 1: it was kind of bothering me because I was filling
Speaker 1: in for Alex at the very beginning. He said, you know,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be millions of people listening to you. I said,
Speaker 1: don't tell me that I need to do that right now.
Speaker 1: But because I was not very much into public speaking
Speaker 1: or anything like that, and I said, no, the way
Speaker 1: I think of this, and that was in his original studio,
Speaker 1: which was really small and intimate. I said, the way
Speaker 1: I think of this is I'm talking to the guys
Speaker 1: over there running the board. I could see them, and
Speaker 1: I said, I'm just thinking, like I'm doing homeschooling with
Speaker 1: my kids. So I said, don't talk to me about
Speaker 1: millions of people listening to that'll freeze me up. So
Speaker 1: that's the way I always looked at it, and it
Speaker 1: was such a wonderful thing because it gave us an
Speaker 1: opportunity to go back and look at content that was
Speaker 1: compelled on us in the schools and to view it
Speaker 1: in a different way. And that's one of the things
Speaker 1: I've always said about biology and evolution. You know, when
Speaker 1: it's taught to us in the schools, it was always
Speaker 1: dumbed down into skeletons and death. Right. For the evolutionist's
Speaker 1: death is the thing, the engine of creation. For us,
Speaker 1: it is the giver of life. And we didn't look
Speaker 1: at comparative anatomy skeletons. We looked at the unique design
Speaker 1: of each and every animal and that was the thing
Speaker 1: that was so fascinating. So it really is a blessing
Speaker 1: and an opportunity. I hope if you have the opportunity,
Speaker 1: you take that to homeschool, your kids have a good day.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
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