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Everything's there. 21 00:01:50,159 --> 00:01:52,640 I want to welcome everyone back to Part forty four 22 00:01:52,879 --> 00:01:58,200 of our reading of two hundred Years Together by Alexander Silshanisen. 23 00:01:58,640 --> 00:01:59,879 How you doing, doctor Jay. 24 00:02:01,319 --> 00:02:05,359 Speaker 2: Well, it is finally like a normal temperature for June. 25 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,360 Way too hot out there. I have an air conditioner on. 26 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,280 I got a little scammed in the house. It had 27 00:02:14,319 --> 00:02:18,520 central air, but the central air is worthless, so I 28 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:23,840 had to get you know, window units. But so you know, 29 00:02:23,879 --> 00:02:26,960 I'm okay. So long as I'm like a husky, I'm 30 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:31,159 inside the house and buy an air conditioner, I'm wonderful. 31 00:02:36,319 --> 00:02:39,719 Speaker 1: I told you before we started about the about the 32 00:02:39,719 --> 00:02:42,639 power outage we had, and our generator kept this going 33 00:02:42,719 --> 00:02:46,840 and even kept even around the AC. So we have 34 00:02:46,879 --> 00:02:49,560 a big we have a big AC unit for this house. 35 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,280 So it was very happy because this this past Sunday 36 00:02:53,439 --> 00:02:58,639 was not The humidity was insane after a gigantic storm. 37 00:02:58,719 --> 00:03:00,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, when I say it's hot, I mean for 38 00:03:00,599 --> 00:03:04,400 up here. I said before. You know, down south, you 39 00:03:04,439 --> 00:03:08,400 know humidity and heat, it's a totally different universe. So 40 00:03:08,599 --> 00:03:13,319 relatively speaking, it's hot out all right. 41 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: All right, here we go picking up where we left off, 42 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,280 and it is there in the passage to the ultimate 43 00:03:21,319 --> 00:03:25,360 stage of the struggle that is doubtlessly found. That is 44 00:03:25,439 --> 00:03:30,479 doubtlessly found. The explanation for the pogrom, the revolutionary impetus 45 00:03:30,479 --> 00:03:35,439 of the byalistok anarchists, was expressed subsequently at the trial 46 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,960 in the pleadings of the lawyer Gillerson, who called for 47 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,800 the overthrow of the government and the political and social 48 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:46,120 system existing in Russia, and which for precisely this reason 49 00:03:46,719 --> 00:03:51,560 was himself prosecuted. As for the Duma Commission, it considered 50 00:03:51,599 --> 00:03:54,759 that the conditions of a pogram had also been created 51 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,159 by various elements of society who imagine that fighting the 52 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,639 Jews town was tense him out to fighting the liberation movement. 53 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: Well, that's the key sentence, and that's what Jews refused 54 00:04:08,879 --> 00:04:12,479 to comprehend. It wasn't Jews just because they look a 55 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,800 little different. It's because they were one and the same 56 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:21,680 for the most part. You know. That's like saying Stalin 57 00:04:21,759 --> 00:04:25,519 was anti Jewish. He was not. But when he purged 58 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:30,040 the old Bolsheviks, they were almost exclusively Jews. Had nothing 59 00:04:30,079 --> 00:04:32,079 to do with them being Jews. But the Bolsvik movement 60 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:41,199 was judaic, and some extent still is. And that's precisely right. 61 00:04:42,759 --> 00:04:45,720 Right wing governments all over Europe, not just in Russia, 62 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,680 had the same understanding. The jew generally speaking, the talmudist, 63 00:04:51,759 --> 00:04:56,120 I mean, is a revolutionary, is a violent revolutionary. He 64 00:04:56,199 --> 00:04:59,279 hates the society in which he lives, and we can't 65 00:04:59,319 --> 00:05:04,560 just let that go. These weren't pograms, these were These 66 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,000 were armed classes. Although the Jews were better armed than 67 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:12,879 the Russians were. This was a response to endless Jewish violence, 68 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:18,600 and not in Odessa, keev Gomel, all over western Russia, 69 00:05:21,959 --> 00:05:25,160 and and they were justified, especially to the extent that 70 00:05:25,199 --> 00:05:29,160 the state either couldn't or wouldn't do anything about it. 71 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:36,319 And at this point the Jews had murdered thousands of people, 72 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,600 you know, low level bureaucrats. I've said this before. They 73 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,000 were getting into bank robbery. That was a little later. 74 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:49,000 Stalin was Stalin's big thing, you know, it was an 75 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,399 anti social element. Yes, fighting the Jews was tantamount of 76 00:05:53,439 --> 00:05:56,720 fighting the liberty so called liberation movement. We also talked 77 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,959 about how the Jews had completely took over the legal profession. 78 00:06:00,879 --> 00:06:02,639 So it doesn't surprise me. Here you have a lawyer 79 00:06:03,319 --> 00:06:05,519 who's not doing his job in a normal sense, but 80 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:14,240 he's using this as a platform Gillersen to promote subversion somehow. 81 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,160 I'm sure that's an an anti Semitic concept too, although 82 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,720 using the phrase anti Semitism concerning Russian Jews makes me 83 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,319 cringe because it's so ridiculous. They were the opposite of Semites. 84 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:32,079 But this is how bad it was becoming, and the 85 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,439 Jews had reached critical mass. They had tremendous money behind them, 86 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,399 plus the Western world, and they realized that if force 87 00:06:39,439 --> 00:06:42,800 came to worse, they could just leave the country. Even 88 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,439 the Zionists, they realized that going to the Middle East 89 00:06:45,759 --> 00:06:49,639 it's going to take a long time. And so they 90 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,759 were fighting for the same things as the as the 91 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,879 leftist revolutionaries were in Russia. So even calling them Zionists 92 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:01,680 is somewhat inaccurate because that was a distant goal. They 93 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,800 were just Jewish nationalists, as many the revolutionaries were. 94 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,079 Speaker 1: But after that Firecracker throne, by the provocation, which the 95 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,319 Duma Committee had not been able to detect, what had 96 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,519 been the course of events. According to the commission's findings quote, 97 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,639 the systematic execution of innocent Jews, including women and children, 98 00:07:24,079 --> 00:07:28,319 was carried out under the pretext of repressing the revolutionaries 99 00:07:28,759 --> 00:07:32,680 end quote. There were a quote more than seventy dead 100 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:38,639 and about eighty wounded end quote among the Jews. Conversely, quote, 101 00:07:38,839 --> 00:07:42,560 the indictment tended to explain the pogram by the revolutionary 102 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,319 activity of the Jews, which had provoked the anger of 103 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,480 the rest of the population. End quote. The Duma committee 104 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:54,399 rejected this version of the facts. Quote there was no racial, religious, 105 00:07:54,480 --> 00:08:01,240 or economic antagonism in Bialistock between Jews and Christians end quote. 106 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,639 And here is what is written today quote this time 107 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:10,120 the pogram was purely military. The soldiers were transformed into 108 00:08:10,199 --> 00:08:14,560 rioters and chased the revolutionaries. At the same time, these 109 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,480 soldiers were said to be afraid of the detachments of 110 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,680 Jewish anarchists in the streets of Suraj because the war 111 00:08:21,759 --> 00:08:26,240 in Japan had taught Russian soldiers to beware of gunshots. 112 00:08:26,759 --> 00:08:30,399 Such were the words pronouncement in the municipal Duma by 113 00:08:30,439 --> 00:08:35,240 a Jewish counselor against the Jewish detachments of self defense 114 00:08:35,519 --> 00:08:38,639 are given the infantry and the cavalry, but on the 115 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,559 other side there are bombs and firearms. 116 00:08:42,759 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 2: That's a particularly stupid statement. Yeah, you had hundreds of 117 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:52,039 thousands of Russian infantrymen eventually or fighting in Manchuria against 118 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,679 the Japanese, and that was definitely they fought to a 119 00:08:54,759 --> 00:08:59,960 draw there. But I guarantee you this Jewish councilor never 120 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,440 been in combat a day in his life. Somehow they're 121 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:10,320 scared of gunshots. Now, I figured it would be the opposite. 122 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:15,960 I think this is the Jewish version of events. Soldiers 123 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:21,799 and Russia were very disciplined at this point, and the 124 00:09:21,879 --> 00:09:25,080 only reason they were there was because of Jewish arrogance, 125 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,240 Jewish violence, and the Jewish revolutionary movement. 126 00:09:32,039 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: In this period of strong social unrest, the Duma Committee 127 00:09:35,759 --> 00:09:40,679 concluded to a strafing of the population. But twenty years 128 00:09:40,759 --> 00:09:43,519 later we can read in a Soviet book, in any case, 129 00:09:43,519 --> 00:09:45,919 the old regime will not come back, will not be 130 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,679 able to justify itself, and so we can go ahead. 131 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,600 Quote they massacred entire families with the use of nails, 132 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:59,240 They pierced their eyes, cut tongues, smashed the skulls of children, etc. 133 00:10:00,279 --> 00:10:03,320 And a luxury book. Yeah, I mean they use this. 134 00:10:04,039 --> 00:10:07,080 They every single time. They just use the same thing 135 00:10:07,279 --> 00:10:14,279 over and over again, same phrases, everything. And a luxury 136 00:10:14,399 --> 00:10:20,799 book edited abroad, sensationalist book Denunciatory, a richly illustrated folio 137 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:26,759 printed on coded paper entitled the Last Aristocrat, decreeing in 138 00:10:26,879 --> 00:10:29,720 advance that Nicholas the second would indeed be the last 139 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,399 propose the following version. The pogram quote had been the 140 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,200 object of such a staging that it seemed possible to 141 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,840 describe the program of the first day in the Berlin newspapers. Thus, 142 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,919 two hours before the beginning of the bi Aali stock Pogram, 143 00:10:46,159 --> 00:10:49,840 the Berliners could be informed of the event. This is 144 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,840 in parenthesis. But if something appeared in the Berlin press, 145 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,440 was it not merely an echo of Grossman Rosians Shenanigans. 146 00:10:58,639 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: Now that's very interesting. It was being we've seen this 147 00:11:03,039 --> 00:11:04,919 with some of the false flags and hoaxes that we've 148 00:11:04,919 --> 00:11:08,120 had to deal with in this country last twenty years, 149 00:11:09,519 --> 00:11:13,120 that the so called pogram was already being described in 150 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:18,879 German newspapers before it occurred, that's you know. And of 151 00:11:18,919 --> 00:11:20,919 course at the time there was no way to know 152 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:28,720 that it was all nonsense. And what's what's interesting about 153 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,159 all of this is that once the revolutionary movement died down, 154 00:11:32,879 --> 00:11:39,000 Russia exploded economically. It was growing at such a massive 155 00:11:39,039 --> 00:11:43,480 rate it was a huge threat to Britain, which is 156 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,080 why the revolutionaries needed World War One and all of 157 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:52,480 that uh complete you know, dislocation, all the soldiers being 158 00:11:52,519 --> 00:11:55,919 you know, out of the country. Britain had to figure 159 00:11:55,919 --> 00:11:57,799 out a way to get their two enemies to fight 160 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:02,399 each other, Germany and Russia. And of course they realized 161 00:12:02,399 --> 00:12:05,399 it was in the Balkans. It was a diabolically brilliant plan. 162 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,600 Austria's largely had fought for it because they invaded Serbia. 163 00:12:10,639 --> 00:12:13,080 Even even though the Serbs were willing to do everything 164 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,200 that they wanted. They had just fought two Balkan wars. 165 00:12:17,039 --> 00:12:21,559 They were exhausted, and yet still two Austrian invasions were defeated. 166 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,320 It took a third one with German and German infantry 167 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:30,240 to to finally take parts of the country. So this 168 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:34,759 shows you this whole thing is a scam. These these 169 00:12:34,799 --> 00:12:37,559 you know, massive skulls of children, you know what. No 170 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:44,039 one does that unless unless you're on myth or something. 171 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,399 No one does that. No normal guy does that. I 172 00:12:46,399 --> 00:12:49,840 don't care what's going on. I hear something like that, 173 00:12:49,919 --> 00:12:53,039 you better give me evidence. I think it's a lot 174 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,919 easier to do that kind of thing from the air. 175 00:12:55,039 --> 00:12:57,480 Of course, that was not relevant really at the time. 176 00:12:59,159 --> 00:13:03,080 But you know, this was and still being taught that 177 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,639 this was the norm. It's still being taught today that 178 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,120 it was the norm to do things like this. They 179 00:13:08,159 --> 00:13:10,639 had no good reason to attack the Jews. There was 180 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:16,200 no connection between the Jews and the revolutionary movement, and 181 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,000 this is the sort of thing that they did for 182 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:22,200 no reason. You know, the last autocrat i'd heard of 183 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:28,080 this before. You know, if World War One didn't happen, 184 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,600 it would have been a false prediction, no war, no revolution. 185 00:13:32,879 --> 00:13:35,960 That goes for the Vietnam War in the US. They 186 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,440 tend to need wars to create a suggestible and frightened population. 187 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,799 But the fact that it was described before it happened, 188 00:13:44,799 --> 00:13:49,639 this is, well, we've heard this before. They've been doing 189 00:13:49,639 --> 00:13:50,519 this for a long time. 190 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: Moreover, it would have been rather absurd on the part 191 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,039 of the Russian government to provoked programs against the Jews 192 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,200 even as the Russian ministers were lobbying among Western financiers 193 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,360 and the hope of obtaining loans. Let us remember that 194 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,600 Vida had great difficulty in obtaining from the Rothschilds, who 195 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:15,159 were ill disposed toward towards Russia. Because of the situation 196 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,840 of the Jews and the Pograms, as well as other 197 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,080 important Jewish establishments, with the exception of the Berlin or 198 00:14:22,159 --> 00:14:26,440 banker Mendelssohn. As early as December nineteen oh five, the 199 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:32,279 Russian ambassador to London, Benkendorf, warned his minister, quote the 200 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,799 raw Childs are repeating everywhere that Russia's credit is now 201 00:14:35,799 --> 00:14:38,159 at its lowest level, but at that it will be 202 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:42,600 restored immediately if the Jewish question is settled. End quote. 203 00:14:42,759 --> 00:14:46,399 Speaker 2: That really that is you know, I wrote a paper 204 00:14:46,399 --> 00:14:49,679 at more on more recent events where the credit rate 205 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:54,080 rating agencies like you know, Moody's Standard and Poors, they're 206 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,440 very politicized. Yeah, to give Russia a bad rating, despite 207 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,879 and this is years ago, this fight it being a 208 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:05,000 purely creditor nation with no debt what in fact they 209 00:15:05,039 --> 00:15:09,919 paid whatever debt they had early. Still credit is as 210 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:14,799 much political as it is economic. Now, the short term loans, 211 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,720 I mean Russia was a creditor nation then too, not 212 00:15:18,759 --> 00:15:23,039 a debtor nation. But these were short term loans to 213 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:27,480 finance the war in Japan and the war in China, 214 00:15:29,399 --> 00:15:33,720 and so it isn't likely they were broke. They needed money. 215 00:15:33,759 --> 00:15:36,399 This was a very expensive war there were probably about 216 00:15:36,399 --> 00:15:40,480 a million men total fighting on land in any given 217 00:15:40,519 --> 00:15:45,559 You know that in that year long land battle, maybe 218 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,840 half a million I should say, still huge numbers for 219 00:15:47,879 --> 00:15:51,600 the era, but there was no other option. If you're 220 00:15:51,639 --> 00:15:54,919 a country and you needed loans to finance something like this, 221 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,679 you had no choice but to go to the roth Childs. 222 00:15:56,919 --> 00:15:59,159 The Mendelssohns, I guess were their last choice, and they 223 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,600 got it there. But given the fact that they had 224 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,200 discovered oil, everyone knew that they would get it back 225 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:09,120 with interests very quickly. That wasn't the point. The ross 226 00:16:09,159 --> 00:16:14,759 Childs were already you know, in today's terms, trillionaires. They 227 00:16:14,759 --> 00:16:17,440 didn't need the money, they didn't need the business. They 228 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,960 were using their wealth to promote revolution, to takeover of 229 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,159 and revolution to them meant the destruction of the monarchy 230 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,879 and the takeover of the currency, turning Russia into a 231 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:35,519 debtor nation. But you know, nothing has changed even there. 232 00:16:35,519 --> 00:16:39,919 You have the credit rating agencies give a grade, not 233 00:16:40,679 --> 00:16:46,600 always on economic criteria, often it's on political criteria. You 234 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,879 can't even trust that. You can't trust anything that any 235 00:16:48,879 --> 00:16:52,519 of these people do. But the fact that they were 236 00:16:52,559 --> 00:16:55,759 forced to go to the ross Childs after everything that's happened, 237 00:16:56,039 --> 00:16:59,600 sols you there were very few options, and that the 238 00:16:59,679 --> 00:17:08,279 Jews had completely taken over any large scale credit. They 239 00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:11,400 were the you know, there was nowhere else to go. Now. 240 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,839 Vita tended to be a bit more philo semitic, I 241 00:17:13,839 --> 00:17:18,160 would say, and that's why he was sent. He knew 242 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,880 some of these guys, but it had to do with 243 00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:26,039 the perceived the lies of the press had nothing to 244 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:29,599 do with reality. But the Rothschilds, the Jews, they Karl 245 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,559 Marx personally, I've I've talked about that for some length 246 00:17:33,039 --> 00:17:38,880 before despise the Russians. They were the bulwark against revolution. 247 00:17:40,759 --> 00:17:44,240 They were the bulwark against revolution. If Russia went, everything's 248 00:17:44,279 --> 00:17:47,240 going to go. And that's why World War One was 249 00:17:47,279 --> 00:17:50,000 so important. But the Jews were so powerful now in 250 00:17:50,039 --> 00:17:53,759 Europe that you had no choice to fight a war 251 00:17:53,839 --> 00:17:57,240 like that, that large and that far away. You needed 252 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:02,359 the Jews for the short term, for this short term credit. 253 00:18:03,319 --> 00:18:05,160 That's how powerful they had become, and that's why the 254 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,279 Russian government had to be very careful in what they did. 255 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: At the beginning of nineteen oh six, Vida disseminated a 256 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,839 government community k saying that finally a radical solution to 257 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,640 the Jewish problem is a matter of conscience for the 258 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,599 Russian people, and this will be done by the Duma. 259 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,359 But even before the Duma unites itself, the most stringent 260 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,680 provisions will be repealed insofar as they are no longer 261 00:18:31,839 --> 00:18:36,599 justified in the present situation. He begged the most eminent 262 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,799 representatives of the Jewish community of Saint Petersburg to go 263 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,319 as a delegation to the Czar, and he promised them 264 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:47,160 the most kind welcome. This proposal was discussed at the 265 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:52,359 Congress of the Union for the Integrality of Rights, and 266 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,480 after the fiery speech of ib Bach, editor of the 267 00:18:55,519 --> 00:18:59,359 Wretch newspaper, it was decided to reject it and to 268 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,640 send a less important delegations to Vita, not to provide answers, 269 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:08,440 but to make accusations, to tell him clearly and unambiguously 270 00:19:08,519 --> 00:19:12,079 that the wave of pograms was organized at the initiative 271 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,279 and with the support of the government. 272 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 2: Well, they're talking about pograms as counter revolutionary measures, so 273 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,960 to that extent, local commanders were but any any anything 274 00:19:27,039 --> 00:19:30,160 that that fought the revolutionary movement was considered a pogram. 275 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,000 The newspapers weren't saying that though Nicholas and Vitta. You know, 276 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,359 given Nicholas his personality, he would have given them the 277 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,240 most kind He would have heard them out. That was 278 00:19:40,279 --> 00:19:44,200 his personally, despite everything, that absolutely was his his personality. 279 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,680 He spoke every European language, so it didn't matter what, 280 00:19:48,079 --> 00:19:49,599 you know, how where they came from or how they 281 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,920 spoke to him. But even that, they were so arrogant. 282 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,480 The power had got to their heads to such an 283 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,400 extent that they said, screw you, We're just going to 284 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:01,720 hit sit here and make accusations we have the International Finance. 285 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:09,039 Never underestimate the fact that the state the Czar personally 286 00:20:10,319 --> 00:20:16,079 controlled the Russian ruble. Russia was huge. It it was 287 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:21,200 a massive market, It was potentially autarchic, It didn't have 288 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:26,160 to trade very much with people. Capturing that market was 289 00:20:26,319 --> 00:20:30,759 the goal. And in my papers on the Bolshevik Revolution, 290 00:20:35,559 --> 00:20:38,039 supporting the revolutionary from the Western point of view was 291 00:20:38,079 --> 00:20:41,359 precisely that to be able to take over that market, 292 00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:46,480 and the Czar was not permitting that to happen, or 293 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,480 very much so at you know, in Russians in Russia's interests, 294 00:20:53,079 --> 00:20:55,920 Russia was not a Russia was part of the European economy, 295 00:20:56,079 --> 00:21:02,400 sort of the gold ruble was extremely stable only because 296 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:07,400 of the state control and this massive economic growth. Now, 297 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,319 whether they knew or they're just reading the papers, they 298 00:21:10,319 --> 00:21:12,039 actually believed it, or they knew that they were full 299 00:21:12,039 --> 00:21:15,799 of it. Either way, it was in their interests Now, Vitta, 300 00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:19,680 you know when he says it's a matter of conscience, 301 00:21:19,759 --> 00:21:24,240 I don't know what a radical solution means to him, 302 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,440 but he's the guy that had to get was rebuffed 303 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,680 by the ross Childs, so it wasn't a matter of conscience. 304 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,440 And for the Russian people I don't know who he's 305 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:37,400 referring to there. The Duma, the first few dumas was 306 00:21:36,759 --> 00:21:45,119 very was very liberal, and he saw an ally there. 307 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,759 Nicholas didn't. Vita was very good at what he did, 308 00:21:50,759 --> 00:21:53,400 but because he was the one who was rejected by 309 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,319 the ross Childs, he becomes very interested in the Jewish question. 310 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,720 Any future war or anything like that, we're still going 311 00:21:59,799 --> 00:22:02,279 to have to go to the Jews. So it certainly 312 00:22:02,319 --> 00:22:05,799 wasn't a matter of conscience, and the Russian people were 313 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,480 victimized by it. It's not their obligation whatsoever. 314 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: After two years of revolutionary earthquake, the leaders of the 315 00:22:15,519 --> 00:22:18,319 Jewish community in Russia, who had taken the upper hand, 316 00:22:18,759 --> 00:22:22,119 did not for a moment contemplate accepting a progressive settlement 317 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,519 regarding the question of equal rights. They felt that they 318 00:22:25,559 --> 00:22:27,799 were carried by the wave of victory and had no 319 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,279 need to go to the Tsar in the position of 320 00:22:30,319 --> 00:22:34,519 beggars and loyal subjects. They were proud of the audacity 321 00:22:34,559 --> 00:22:38,920 displayed by the Jewish revolutionary youth. One must position oneself 322 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,039 in the context of the time when the old Imperial 323 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,640 Army was believed to be immovable to perceive the significance 324 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,839 of the episode during which, in front of the regiment 325 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:53,480 of Rostov grenadier's standing at attention, his commander, Colonel Simansky, 326 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:58,720 had been arrested by a volunteer Jew. After all, perhaps 327 00:22:58,799 --> 00:23:03,559 these revolutionaries had not been guilty of national treason, as 328 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,920 Dubnov had accused them. Perhaps they were the ones who 329 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,319 were in the truth. After nineteen oh five, only the 330 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:15,720 fortunate and prudent Jews were left to doubt it, And. 331 00:23:16,319 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 2: That was the situation of the As far as the 332 00:23:18,279 --> 00:23:22,000 Jews were concerned, they really thought that they were on 333 00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:26,920 the cusp of something. They really believed that Russia began 334 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:32,559 and ended in Odessa and Gomel. As we said from 335 00:23:32,599 --> 00:23:36,720 the very beginning of this project, where forty five episodes ago, 336 00:23:38,039 --> 00:23:42,359 the Jews hated, especially the Slavs. The Jews hated the 337 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,279 people who they lived among. They were only there to 338 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:50,279 exploit and to manipulate. If they were given any kind 339 00:23:50,279 --> 00:23:52,559 of power, they were going to use it, and it 340 00:23:52,599 --> 00:23:55,640 was never going to be in their interests. So even 341 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,720 someone like Vitta, the only reason he was interested in 342 00:23:57,759 --> 00:24:03,039 the problem was in the banking issue. It wasn't much 343 00:24:03,039 --> 00:24:06,960 of a victory. The czar was still there. But I 344 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,519 want to remind everyone again Freemasonry. I don't want to 345 00:24:11,519 --> 00:24:15,279 exaggerate how powerful it was in the upper reaches of 346 00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:19,079 the bureaucracy, especially in Petersburg, but it was. It was significant. 347 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,039 So they had allies there and certainly was in their 348 00:24:23,079 --> 00:24:27,480 financial interest to do it. But as I said, Nicholas 349 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,359 was in a rough position as far as domestic issues 350 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,720 were concerned. The only real solution was to get them 351 00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:36,160 out of the country, but at the moment that seemed 352 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:44,000 to be impossible. But this is a level of arrogance, violence, murder, 353 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,759 and then they respond to it, and that's a pogram, 354 00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:51,160 and then you're going to be attacked for it. It's 355 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:56,119 a it's a very collective, collectively narcissistic thing, and way 356 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,480 to think it's purely neurotic. 357 00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:02,319 Speaker 1: What was the record of the year nineteen oh five 358 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,960 for the entire Jewish community in Russia. On the one hand, 359 00:25:06,079 --> 00:25:09,400 the Revolution of nineteen oh five had overall positive results. 360 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,799 It brought to the Jews political equality, even when they 361 00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:17,960 did not enjoy civil equality. Never as after the Liberation movement, 362 00:25:18,079 --> 00:25:21,200 did the Jewish question benefit from a more favorable climate 363 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,839 and public opinion. But on the other hand, the strong 364 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,720 participation of the Jews and the revolution contributed to the 365 00:25:27,759 --> 00:25:32,319 fact that they were henceforth all identified with it. At 366 00:25:32,319 --> 00:25:35,079 the Tribute of the Duma in nineteen oh seven, v. 367 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,960 Shulgen proposed to vote a resolution to find that quoting 368 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,799 the western half of Russia from Bessarabia to Warsaw is 369 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,559 full of hatred toward the Jews, whom they considered the 370 00:25:47,599 --> 00:25:49,920 responsible for all their misfortunes. 371 00:25:50,839 --> 00:25:53,839 Speaker 2: That's one of my pet peeves. You get this a 372 00:25:53,839 --> 00:25:58,519 lot from uneducated people. They say that we blame immigrants 373 00:25:58,599 --> 00:26:01,759 or whatever for all of our problems. I've never heard 374 00:26:01,799 --> 00:26:05,359 anyone say that. I've never known anyone who believes that. 375 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,480 We're very specific as to what they do and what 376 00:26:09,559 --> 00:26:14,240 a problem they are, but trying to make it, trying 377 00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:17,839 to make them seem irrational. And when you have control 378 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,319 of a good chunk of the press, that's pretty easy 379 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:25,519 to make irrationality seem normal. But I don't know where 380 00:26:25,559 --> 00:26:29,920 he's getting this. The Jews had this positive public opinion. 381 00:26:30,759 --> 00:26:33,200 I don't know what what public he's referring to. Maybe 382 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,799 in Petersburg. Parts of Petersburg, I think overwhelmingly, especially where 383 00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:40,519 you had daily interaction with Jews, and so, you know, 384 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:45,440 the Paleo Settlement, the western part of Russia, the former 385 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:50,200 pale Of Settlement, people actually dealt with Jews every day, 386 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,400 and that's where the contempt was coming from. So I 387 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,920 suppose what he means is in parts of Russia that 388 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,599 don't have daily interactions with the Jews, they had, you know, 389 00:26:59,599 --> 00:27:02,839 they had no problem with them, only it was only 390 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,720 and even there I have a problem with that because 391 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,400 they were extremely violent and the Jews didn't dominate the 392 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:13,160 press entirely. But when you actually had to deal with 393 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:19,799 the Jews every day, even the most normal person held 394 00:27:19,799 --> 00:27:24,720 them in contempt and a certain degree of fear, but 395 00:27:24,799 --> 00:27:29,400 no one ever said they're responsible for anyone all of 396 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,480 everyone's misfortunes. 397 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,759 Speaker 1: This is indirectly confirmed by the increase in Jewish immigration 398 00:27:37,079 --> 00:27:40,440 from Russia. If in nineteen oh four to nineteen oh 399 00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:44,519 five there was still an increase in emigration among mature men, 400 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,440 the whole age pyramid is concerned from nineteen oh six onwards. 401 00:27:50,039 --> 00:27:53,240 The phenomenon is therefore not due to pograms of eighteen 402 00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:55,960 eighty one to eighteen eighty two, but indeed those of 403 00:27:56,039 --> 00:27:59,119 nineteen oh five to nineteen oh six. From now on. 404 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,079 For the United States alone, the number of immigrants rose 405 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,519 to one hundred and twenty five thousand people in nineteen 406 00:28:04,519 --> 00:28:07,200 oh five to nineteen oh six, and to one hundred 407 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,599 and fifteen thousand in nineteen oh six to nineteen oh seven. 408 00:28:12,519 --> 00:28:16,799 Lucky us. But at the same time, writes Bi Goldman, 409 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,599 in the short years of agitation, higher education institutions did 410 00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:26,160 not rigorously apply the numerous clausus to the Jews. A 411 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,319 relatively large number of Jewish professional executives, and as they 412 00:28:30,319 --> 00:28:33,039 were more skillful than the Russians in placing themselves on 413 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,480 the market without always being distinguished by a great moral 414 00:28:36,599 --> 00:28:39,960 rigor in their activity. Some began to speak of a 415 00:28:40,079 --> 00:28:44,920 hold of the Jews on the intellectual professions, and in 416 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,000 the Project for Universities prepared in nineteen oh six by 417 00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:51,480 the Ministry of Public Instruction, no mention was made to 418 00:28:51,559 --> 00:28:54,799 the numerous clausus. In nineteen oh five there were two 419 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,079 thy two hundred and forty seven nine point two percent 420 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,680 Jewish students in Russia, in nineteen oh six three thousand, 421 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,480 seven hundred and two eleven point six percent, and in 422 00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:08,880 nineteen oh seven four two hundred and sixty six twelve percent. 423 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:15,839 Speaker 2: Well, we spent a lot of time on what the 424 00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:20,079 institutions of higher education really were. It didn't take much, 425 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,440 I mean, this was sufficient ten percent roughly to turn 426 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:29,799 these into revolutionary strongholds. Both in the administration as well 427 00:29:29,799 --> 00:29:33,359 as in the student body. They purged, you know, during 428 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:39,200 the revolution itself, they purged many students who didn't agree 429 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,720 with them. This was their home base, and that was 430 00:29:43,759 --> 00:29:48,359 the reason for the numerous clauses, the limitation on the 431 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,119 number of the Jews, because they were well aware of 432 00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:55,000 what they were doing. Everything was either a violent revolutionary 433 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,200 activity or a scam. We've been through this in great 434 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,480 detail already. I suppose they can have another commission and 435 00:30:01,519 --> 00:30:02,640 maybe they'll they'll solve it. 436 00:30:06,119 --> 00:30:09,519 Speaker 1: In the program of reforms announced on August twenty fifth, 437 00:30:09,599 --> 00:30:13,319 nineteen oh six, by the government, the latter undertook to 438 00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:17,079 re examine, among the limitations to which the Jews were subjected, 439 00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:21,119 those which could be immediately lifted insofar as they were 440 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:28,160 merely provoked dissatisfaction and are obviously obsolete. However, at the 441 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,640 same time, the Russian government could no longer be affected 442 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,960 by the revolution, which was prolonged for another two years, 443 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,759 by a wave of terrorism hardly contained to Stolopin, and 444 00:30:38,839 --> 00:30:42,759 by the very visible participation of the Jews in this revolution. 445 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,559 To these subjects of discontent was added the humiliating defeat 446 00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:52,559 against Japan, and the ruling circles of Saint Petersburg yielded 447 00:30:52,599 --> 00:30:57,400 to the temptation of a simplistic explanation, Russia is fundamentally sound, 448 00:30:57,519 --> 00:31:00,200 and the whole revolution, from beginning to end, is a 449 00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:04,000 dark plot hatched by Jews. An episode in the Judeo 450 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:09,519 Masonic plot explain everything by one and the same clause. 451 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,519 The Jews Russia would have been at the zenith of 452 00:31:13,599 --> 00:31:16,599 glory and universal power if there were no Jews. 453 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: I need to repeat myself here, Sultan. Each And is 454 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,319 wrong on one thing. It was not a humiliating defeat. 455 00:31:24,839 --> 00:31:28,200 It wasn't a defeat at all, let alone a humiliating one. 456 00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:32,359 And it certainly wasn't seen as a defeat in Japan. 457 00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:36,119 Japan it was seen as you had you had civil 458 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,599 unrest because it was seen as a defeat of the Japanese. 459 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,680 They didn't get anything they wanted, or what they got 460 00:31:43,799 --> 00:31:48,799 was very ephemeral. Yeah, Tushimay, they sank a whole bunch 461 00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:53,480 of bunch of Russian battleships, that's true, but the war 462 00:31:53,559 --> 00:31:56,119 was mostly on land and it was all to a draw. 463 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,880 Japan was completely exhausted, I mean completely exhausted and broke 464 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,880 when the war was over. Russia was nowhere close to it. 465 00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:08,240 And as I've said, I have a lengthy article in 466 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,240 the Russo Japanese War, but it just got repeated so 467 00:32:12,279 --> 00:32:14,680 many times in the press, both then and now that 468 00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:18,200 it's seen as a just a blatant, humiliating defeat, not 469 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,960 just a defeat, a humiliating defeat. And there is some 470 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,960 truth to the statement that Russia would have been a 471 00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:31,279 very different country without without Jews, you wouldn't have had 472 00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:34,599 these revolutionary movements whatsoever. You may have had protests, you know, 473 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,839 labor unrest in certain places, that's you know, normal. But 474 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,519 there's some truth to that last statement. It sounds crazy 475 00:32:42,519 --> 00:32:44,400 when you put it that way, but given what we've 476 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:50,079 read so far, it's true. They were the They were 477 00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:53,039 the you know, it doesn't take much poison to kill. 478 00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:56,119 Somebody takes a little bit, you put it in someone 479 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:02,279 soup and they're gone. And there is some truth to that, 480 00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:04,119 you know. I don't like putting it in such a 481 00:33:04,119 --> 00:33:08,720 simplistic way. Judeo Massonic plot, Well, that's what a revolution is. 482 00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:15,680 Revolutions by definition are conspiracies. Masons again, by the very structure, 483 00:33:15,799 --> 00:33:21,039 were secret. Yes, you know, it's not all on the Jews. 484 00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:24,079 That's ridiculous. I don't know anyone who says that. I 485 00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:26,079 don't know anyone who believes that, who has argued that. 486 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,680 But the Jews were a critical element in all of this. 487 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,160 They're the ones who that took protests and made it 488 00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:38,200 into a revolutionary They hijacked some legitimate protests and made 489 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,720 it something completely different. Yes, Russia would have been in 490 00:33:41,759 --> 00:33:43,920 a very different position without Jews. It would have been 491 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,119 far more powerful than it was. 492 00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:50,759 Speaker 1: That's true, and clinging to this short but convenient explanation, 493 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,920 the high spheres only brought the hour of their fall 494 00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:59,359 even closer. The superstitious belief in the historical force of conspiracies, 495 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,359 even if they exist individual or collective, leaves completely aside 496 00:34:03,359 --> 00:34:06,160 the main causes of failure suffered by individuals as well 497 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:11,800 as by states, human weaknesses. It is our Russian weaknesses 498 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,519 that have determined the course of our sad history. The 499 00:34:14,559 --> 00:34:19,039 absurdity of the religious schism called by Nikan, the senseless 500 00:34:19,119 --> 00:34:21,719 violence of Peter the Great, and the incredible series of 501 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,480 counter shocks that ensued wasting our strength for causes that 502 00:34:25,559 --> 00:34:29,079 are not ours, the inveterate sufficiency of the nobility and 503 00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:34,239 bureaucratic petrification throughout the nineteenth century. It is not by 504 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,960 the effect of a plot hatched from the outside that 505 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,920 we have abandoned our peasants to their misery. It was 506 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,320 not a plot that led the great and cruel Petersburg 507 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,039 to stifle the sweet Ukrainian culture. It was not because 508 00:34:48,079 --> 00:34:51,320 of a conspiracy that four ministries were unable to agree 509 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,440 on the assignment of a particular case to one or 510 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,679 the other of them. They spent years in exhausting squabbles, 511 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,880 mobilizing all levels of the hierarchy. It is not the 512 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,000 results of a plot. If our emperors, one after the other, 513 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,639 have proved incapable of understanding the evolution of the world 514 00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:10,760 and defining the true priorities. If we are preserved the 515 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,199 purity and strength which were formally infused into us by 516 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:20,480 Saint Sergiz of Rodiness, we should not fear any plot 517 00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:21,719 in the world. 518 00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:25,039 Speaker 2: There is no way to disagree with him here. This 519 00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:30,280 is a very powerful paragraph. He has said similar things 520 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,960 in other books, especially near you know, near the end 521 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,400 of his life. Yes, Jews were not involved in the 522 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,320 in the Niciconian Sism, which was made worse by Peter 523 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,280 the Great. Very few Jews were involved in that, In that, 524 00:35:45,559 --> 00:35:48,679 In that too, that was a revolutionary movement in and 525 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:54,280 of itself of a very different sort. He is completely 526 00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:01,639 he is completely correct. So the Jews, however, took advantage 527 00:36:01,679 --> 00:36:07,199 of Russian human weakness and were able to almost mobilize 528 00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:11,280 it and weaponize it. That's what I said. No one, 529 00:36:11,639 --> 00:36:13,559 no one thinks that the Jews have caused all of 530 00:36:13,559 --> 00:36:17,679 these problems. No one has ever said that it's a 531 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,880 stupid thing to say. It's a stupid accusation to make 532 00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:27,599 against against someone like me. He's absolutely right, though, and 533 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,880 the examples that he uses I know extremely well. I 534 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,320 have a book on each of them. The Peter the 535 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:40,119 Great one hasn't come out yet. You know, the eighteenth century, 536 00:36:40,159 --> 00:36:42,440 the violence of the eighteenth century, Jews were not really 537 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:47,079 involved because that part of Poldon hadn't come to Russia. Again, 538 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,400 he's absolutely correct, But when that section of Jews came 539 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,840 in to the Russian Empire, everything changed. 540 00:36:59,519 --> 00:37:02,679 Speaker 1: No, it cannot be said in any case that it 541 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,079 was the Jews who organized the revolutions in nineteen oh 542 00:37:06,159 --> 00:37:09,360 seven or nineteen seventeen, just as one cannot say that 543 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,360 it was this nation as a whole that fomented them. 544 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,760 In the same way, it was not the Russians or 545 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,840 the Ukrainians taken together as nations, who organized the pogroms. 546 00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:24,639 It would be easy for us to all to take 547 00:37:24,679 --> 00:37:28,480 a retrospective look at this revolution and condemn our renegades. 548 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:34,119 Some were non Jewish Jews, others were internationalists, not Russians. 549 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,239 But every nation must answer for its members and that 550 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,679 it has helped to train them on the side of 551 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,719 the Jewish revolutionary youth, but also of those who had 552 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,360 formed it, as well as those of the Jews who 553 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,519 constituted an important revolutionary force. It seems that the wise 554 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,880 advice Jeremiah addressed to the Jews deported to Babylon was forgotten. 555 00:37:57,639 --> 00:38:00,840 Quote Jeremiah twenty nine to seven, seek peace for the 556 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,400 city where I have deported you. Pray to Yahweh in 557 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:09,760 its favor, for it is for its peace depends on yours, 558 00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:13,760 while the Jews of Russia who rallied the revolution, only 559 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,000 dreamed of bringing down this same city without thinking of 560 00:38:17,039 --> 00:38:22,639 the consequences. In the long as. 561 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,119 Speaker 2: There's some there's some exaggeration, there's some exagger I think 562 00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:30,800 he's just he doesn't like the idea of just putting 563 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,760 a label on things, these simplistic explanations. The government controlled 564 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,800 the pograms, the Russian people are evil and hate the Jews, 565 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,440 But there's no getting away from the fact that the 566 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:50,599 only real dominant parts of the Revolution of nineteen oh 567 00:38:50,639 --> 00:38:55,519 five were in Jewish areas. Jews were a massive part 568 00:38:55,559 --> 00:38:58,679 of this. I don't know how he's defining Jews as 569 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,000 you know, internationalist, not Russians. You know, I don't care. 570 00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:04,000 They were Jews and they and they thought like Jews. 571 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,880 They you don't, you know, jew being a Jew is 572 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:12,719 a secular ethnic membership and has nothing to do with 573 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,920 with religion or the religion is is really just very secondary. 574 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:22,920 It's a form of mobilization. And Jeremiah like uh or 575 00:39:23,039 --> 00:39:25,679 you know, I know, at least Isaiah is burning in 576 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,599 hell according to the Talmud. I can't imagine that Jeremiah 577 00:39:30,639 --> 00:39:32,440 would be although I don't know specifically off the top 578 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:39,639 of my head if if he's included Isaiah is because 579 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,920 they were you know, all they did was criticize Israel, 580 00:39:44,159 --> 00:39:47,679 and of course these are two very different groups of people. Regardless, 581 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,840 Jeremiah would be totally irrelevant to the Kasars who were 582 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:58,880 creating this, this this revolution. Jews have to I mean, 583 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,920 at least there's got to be that realized the misery 584 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:07,119 that they brought on Russia and to take account of themselves, 585 00:40:07,199 --> 00:40:11,239 and you know, understand that they are at fought for 586 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,639 a lot of this, not entirely. That's again the simplistic 587 00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:18,320 stupidity that no one says. We say things like that 588 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,880 as just you know, as abbreviations. We realize it's far 589 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,719 more complex than that. It's a Jewish revolution of nineteen 590 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,000 oh five. What the stomachtent it was because it occurred 591 00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:34,280 most violently in places where the Jews dominated. That's not 592 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:40,039 a coincidence. The arrogance of the Jews is found in 593 00:40:40,039 --> 00:40:43,960 the Talmud that does have the prophets like Isaiah burning 594 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,840 in the same pool of hot seamen the Christ is 595 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:51,960 in according to them. And about the last thing I remember, 596 00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:56,920 you know, the Notaria Cardiff, the anti Zionist Jews. I 597 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,840 used to know. I used to know David Weiss, Rabbi 598 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,119 Weiss for many years. Talken to them in a long time. 599 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,119 But that line is repeated by them all the time. 600 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,599 You know, they're really a political They want to be 601 00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:15,000 the best neighbors possible. I don't exploit anybody, seek peace 602 00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:19,559 for the city, you know, and which is why they're 603 00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:23,239 very easy to deal with, very different. I grew up 604 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,360 in a Jewish area or you know, largely Jewish area 605 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,920 in New Jersey that's almost by definition just outside of Manhattan, 606 00:41:32,119 --> 00:41:37,519 this outside of Staten Island actually, So this isn't something 607 00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:41,719 that I just discovered the other day on a personal level, 608 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,679 but of course none of this is personal. This is 609 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:50,320 all about their aggregate effect. You take away the Jews 610 00:41:50,559 --> 00:41:56,039 from Russia, or let's just say that Poland was never disintegrated, 611 00:41:56,159 --> 00:42:00,239 was never partitioned. This wouldn't have happened, or if it 612 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,920 would have happened, it would have been nothing like this. 613 00:42:03,599 --> 00:42:08,800 Russia was doing very well. The media was fanning the flames. 614 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,840 There was no censorship, contrary to what all these people say, 615 00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:17,400 or if there was, it wasn't enforced. And as I've 616 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,559 said one hundred times, the royalists, the nationalists didn't have 617 00:42:21,639 --> 00:42:24,000 their act together in terms of a full solid movement 618 00:42:24,039 --> 00:42:28,679 that could fight back, which is a you know, a 619 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:36,719 common problem. You know, Russia was a healthy society outside 620 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,639 of the old pale of settlement. Saying that, you know, 621 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:44,880 Poland shouldn't have been partitioned and Russia shouldn't have absorbed 622 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,599 this area. Yeah, but there's no way they could have 623 00:42:46,599 --> 00:42:47,320 known that at the time. 624 00:42:50,679 --> 00:42:53,679 Speaker 1: In the long and chaotic human history, the role played 625 00:42:53,679 --> 00:42:58,480 by the Jewish people, few but energetic, is undeniable and considerable. 626 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,719 This also applies to the history of Russia, but for 627 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,760 all of us, the role remains a historical enigma for 628 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:11,360 the Jews as well. This strange mission brought them everything 629 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,800 but happiness. 630 00:43:17,159 --> 00:43:22,199 Speaker 2: Well, there's a few things maybe that are mysterious. Why 631 00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:25,320 they don't realize that, Well, they don't realize their limits. 632 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,960 They don't back down. Once they've reached a certain level 633 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:36,719 of power. They keep wanting more, you know, the refusal 634 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,880 to recognize their control over things, that any reaction to 635 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:47,280 them is not a violent pogram. They don't, you know, 636 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,199 somehow their brain doesn't work that way. There's a miscommunication 637 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,599 and their synapses that just doesn't work. I mean, Jews 638 00:43:54,639 --> 00:43:59,960 are notoriously neurotic in general. I don't see the Jews 639 00:44:00,199 --> 00:44:03,159 role as an enigma at all. I'm a professional historian, 640 00:44:03,519 --> 00:44:05,199 you know. I think it's very clear they act more 641 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,760 or less the same way wherever they go. Russia was 642 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:15,360 just brought to the second or third power. Jews are 643 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,079 intensely neurotic. They're never going to be happy. They have 644 00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:22,199 everything it takes to live, like Rabbi wish, wanted a 645 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,440 very peaceful life and prosperous life in the countries in 646 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,760 which they live, but that is never enough. How intelligent 647 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,480 can they be if they don't understand that simple thing. 648 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,480 But rather they need to rewrite history, They need to 649 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,639 rewrite everything. They need to lie in order to make 650 00:44:38,639 --> 00:44:41,599 it seem like there's no good reason to dislike it. 651 00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:43,639 There's no hatred here. I mean sometimes I was there 652 00:44:43,679 --> 00:44:46,559 at the time, I would but none of this is personal. 653 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,400 This is talk. We're talking about them as a group. 654 00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:54,760 We're talking about Talmudus and their role in Russia, which 655 00:44:54,800 --> 00:45:00,360 has been absolutely nothing but negative even for them. Yeah, 656 00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:05,480 their mission has brought them everything but happiness. They rejected logos, 657 00:45:05,679 --> 00:45:10,800 they embraced revolution. Happiness can't be found there. They rejected 658 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:16,280 christ and that is their entire identity. Their entire identity 659 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:21,119 is the negation of Christianity. And there was no country 660 00:45:21,199 --> 00:45:26,159 more anti revolutionary or strictly Christian or royalist than Russia was. 661 00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:30,400 It was the belly of the beast as far as 662 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,159 they were concerned. It was the last manifestation of Rome. 663 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,320 And if you know the talmud they condemn Rome all 664 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,480 the time. It's their enemy. It's it's you know, the 665 00:45:41,519 --> 00:45:47,599 supergoyam in Rome, the land power, the virtues of the 666 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:54,519 of the as settled agricultural estate. They despised that, but 667 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,320 they could simply reach a certain level of prosperity and stop. 668 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,679 But they never do. They push and push wherever they go. 669 00:46:02,119 --> 00:46:06,760 They don't know their limits. Why there is this short circuit. 670 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:11,079 That's a separate issue. I know in some places, like 671 00:46:11,159 --> 00:46:17,119 in Ukraine in sixteen forty eight, they really believed that, 672 00:46:17,159 --> 00:46:21,639 because their power was so absolute there, that the Messiah 673 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,880 was coming and therefore they would have no reason to 674 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:33,280 back down. They got Kimilnitsky instead. I've been talking about 675 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,639 him for many, many years now. He was a great man. 676 00:46:38,559 --> 00:46:42,119 But that's not the case. Everywhere. They simply don't know. 677 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,519 They would rather lie, they'd rather you know, make up 678 00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:49,239 an entire false world and all that work that it 679 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,920 takes to do that, rather than simply enjoy a certain 680 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:59,000 level of prosperity, which they can do very easily. There's 681 00:46:59,039 --> 00:47:05,239 something wrong there. There's something spiritual about this that's wrong. 682 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,920 And being the rejectors, I mean, the manifestation of the 683 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,760 rejection of Christ, this has something to do with it. 684 00:47:13,199 --> 00:47:17,599 Their passions have no limits, their intellect is only used 685 00:47:17,639 --> 00:47:21,239 in various specific things, except for that if there's power 686 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:25,039 to be had, they're going to take it, despite the 687 00:47:25,039 --> 00:47:26,440 fact that they know that it's going to piss a 688 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,760 lot of people off. They don't care, and they don't 689 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,519 care even when they realize it could be a huge 690 00:47:31,519 --> 00:47:35,440 reaction against them. There's a short circuit in there that 691 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,239 to me, that's the enigma. But as far as their 692 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,960 behavior is concerned, I don't find them as serious at all. 693 00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 1: All right, let's end it there, done with chapter nine, 694 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,360 moving on to chapter ten on the next episode. As always, 695 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,639 please go to the show notes. Please go to the 696 00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,480 videos where there are hot links. Please donate to doctor 697 00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:04,320 Johnson's links, to the Patreon links to where you can 698 00:48:04,519 --> 00:48:09,719 do one time donations Bitcoin as well. And yeah, keep 699 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:14,079 doctor Johnson. Uh, keep doctor Johnson working for us because 700 00:48:14,119 --> 00:48:19,280 we appreciate him. Thank you, Thank you, doctor Johnson. See 701 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:19,920 you in a few days. 702 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 2: Okay, my friend h