Speaker 1: You see somethings going to happen?
Speaker 2: What? What's gonna happen?
Speaker 3: What all.
Speaker 4: This episode we got? We got a couple of guests
Speaker 4: with us. We got doctor John Steamy, we got Jeremy,
Speaker 4: and we've got Douglas and we will get to them
Speaker 4: after I'm done introducing all the other rejects that I hear.
Speaker 2: And to start off first, we got Broke. What is
Speaker 2: going on? Broke? How will you? Hi?
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me tonight. I'm excited
Speaker 1: to get into this conversation. You can find me wherever
Speaker 1: you get your podcast at Dark Florida Podcast and on
Speaker 1: Instagram at Dark Floord.
Speaker 4: Podcast and real quick, please promote that speaking of it,
Speaker 4: did you have please?
Speaker 1: Oh that's right. On October eighteenth, I will be down
Speaker 1: in Fort Myers at Charlie's Beyond Belief XFO. I will
Speaker 1: be speaking about Bigfoot, the paranormal and everything in between.
Speaker 1: So if you're in the area, please come out. The
Speaker 1: Occult Rejects will also have a booth there and it
Speaker 1: is going to be a really good time.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, it's gonna be awesome, so definitely come down
Speaker 4: and get way with us. Check us out at Charlie's
Speaker 4: Beyond Belief, and of course since that it's out of
Speaker 4: Masonic Lodge, we had to get booth thirty three, so
Speaker 4: and we got broken next to us at booth thirty two.
Speaker 4: So very good, very good. So thank you very much, Mok.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you making it and we got the Headless Giant.
Speaker 4: What was going on, sir?
Speaker 2: How are you hi?
Speaker 5: You doing? I'm the Headless Giant. You can find me
Speaker 5: on Twitter at the Headless Giant and also on YouTube
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Speaker 5: at gmail dot com and I can't wait to read them.
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Speaker 5: So thank you, no.
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Speaker 2: What is going on? How are you go?
Speaker 6: Hey, hey, thanks so much for having me. It's good
Speaker 6: to be here in the House of the Lord again.
Speaker 6: Anytime we can all sit down and share some wisdom,
Speaker 6: that's a good day. So I am Sarah. I'm the
Speaker 6: director of public relations for the Institute for Natural Philosophy
Speaker 6: as well as the co host for Universe Unveiled podcast
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Speaker 4: List to that she's making moves. She's been promoted since
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Thank you very much for making it.
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Speaker 4: And for the listeners who may not know who who
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Speaker 7: Nick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, thank you very much for joining us.
Speaker 4: And finally, to the guests, I know you guys have
Speaker 4: probably heard me go on about these events that the
Speaker 4: cole rejects got boots at most of them, or this
Speaker 4: man's events that he has put together, so I'm very
Speaker 4: happy to be able to get him on. I appreciate
Speaker 4: him giving me the chance to have a booth at
Speaker 4: all these events. That's what's up, and I look forward
Speaker 4: to having fun. I think I'm going to meet a
Speaker 4: lot of interesting people and have a great time. And John,
Speaker 4: please let everybody know what your deal is and what's up.
Speaker 2: Well, good evening.
Speaker 8: First of all, it's great to meet all your wonderful
Speaker 8: co hosts. And I'm doctor John Stamy and I produce
Speaker 8: paranormal events. I guess my signature event is the Georgia
Speaker 8: Bigfoot Conference. In the World UFO conference, we are starting
Speaker 8: a series of UFO comic cons and Bigfoot comic cons.
Speaker 8: So on October fourth, we are going to have the
Speaker 8: second Bigfoot Comic Con in Franklin, North Carolina, right on
Speaker 8: the border with Georgia. That is at the Factory, which
Speaker 8: is a one hundred thousand square foot kids and adults,
Speaker 8: if you want to arcade and amusement park. It's indoors.
Speaker 8: It's the most fun you can ever have. I got
Speaker 8: I got to play in some games and it was
Speaker 8: just terrible. I couldn't get away from them. But no,
Speaker 8: it's gonna be a lot of fun. We got great speakers.
Speaker 8: I mean, first of all, we've got John Price, who's
Speaker 8: the state director of Alabama. Move I'm gonna be talking
Speaker 8: about Bigfoot in UFOs. We're going to have goll yeh,
Speaker 8: I forgot, I've forgotten who all. We're gonna have lots
Speaker 8: of cool people, but especially those two gentlemen with us
Speaker 8: tonight with the Center for Wilderness Cryptid Studies. We've got
Speaker 8: Douglas and Trey. Hey, Douglas, how are you?
Speaker 7: And Don? Good?
Speaker 2: Great?
Speaker 9: Trey, how are you?
Speaker 7: I'm doing great, man, It's good to see you again.
Speaker 8: And I'll tell you why they're here. This is one
Speaker 8: of those things. I'm a big believer in the Chamber
Speaker 8: of Commerce. I believe that's how you get in touch
Speaker 8: with thousands of people with your events. And when I
Speaker 8: was there joining the Chamber of Common last month, they said,
Speaker 8: wait a second, you do Bigfoot. There's this guy Douglas
Speaker 8: that has something about wilderness and cryptid So I said,
Speaker 8: give me his name and address and phone number now.
Speaker 8: So I called and left him a message. A couple
Speaker 8: days later he called, and it was wonderful.
Speaker 9: It was like old home week.
Speaker 8: We're we're doing things in the town where they live,
Speaker 8: and a town that I love that I have some
Speaker 8: really good friends, like Mark Munsey, the paranormal author. In fact,
Speaker 8: he's going to be the keynote speaker there. Mark's great.
Speaker 8: He was just at the Mofman Festival this weekend. He's
Speaker 8: just all over everywhere. He's a great guy. So you
Speaker 8: will enjoy John Price. You're going to enjoy Mark Munsey.
Speaker 8: I will be there speaking, and of course these two
Speaker 8: gentlemen for the Center for Wilderness Cryptid Studies. I can't wait.
Speaker 8: We're all all the speakers. Oh and also n CI
Speaker 8: North Carolina Investigates will be there. Jones can't be there
Speaker 8: because he's going to be in Europe. He and his
Speaker 8: wife are going to be there witnessing the wedding of
Speaker 8: their best friends who are getting married in the Netherlands,
Speaker 8: so they can't be there, but.
Speaker 9: They will be with us next time.
Speaker 8: We're looking forward to even having another one, another Bigfoot
Speaker 8: Comic con there in Franklin in February of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 8: More on that later, but right now, I would like
Speaker 8: to now because of the traffic in Charlotte today, I
Speaker 8: was coming to Morganton, my old hometown, and I couldn't
Speaker 8: get there because of all the traffic jams. So I
Speaker 8: am in Valdies, which is about twenty miles from Morganton.
Speaker 8: Some friends let me stand in their driveway and do
Speaker 8: my little introduction. So I'm gonna be I'm gonna be
Speaker 8: headed to Parts Unknown, which is my sweet little cousin,
Speaker 8: Sir Lynsas and Morganton, but I wanted to be here
Speaker 8: to mention the conference. On Friday, at four o'clock, we
Speaker 8: are going to have a big Foot bar cross starting
Speaker 8: at the Lazy Hiker in Franklin, and then we're going
Speaker 8: to go around to the rath Scaler. The Chamber of
Speaker 8: Commerce is going to be doing a ribbon cutting for us,
Speaker 8: and we're gonna have remarks by the past mayor Bob Scott.
Speaker 8: He was in the newspaper last week talking about six
Speaker 8: Bigfoot sightings in the Franklin area and I thought, well,
Speaker 8: we may as well get him to come there and
Speaker 8: talk to us. Everybody will enjoy it. So he will
Speaker 8: be there and then Saturday from ten to six at
Speaker 8: the Factory. It's on it's ten twenty four Georgia Street
Speaker 8: in Franklin. It's going to be a blast. We oh,
Speaker 8: We've got tons of tons of speakers, tons of great people.
Speaker 8: Nick will be there and so we can't wait to
Speaker 8: see everybody. It's only five dollars admission at the door.
Speaker 8: We're going to have about ten or twelve vendors. I
Speaker 8: had to keep it small the first time to kind
Speaker 8: of see how everything went. But I think I'm expecting
Speaker 8: great things there at the Factory as we continue to
Speaker 8: run these Bigfoot comic cons. So, without any further I
Speaker 8: want to thank Nick and all of his co hosts,
Speaker 8: and I want to introduce Trey and Doug the Center
Speaker 8: for Wilderness Studies and I am going to vanish like
Speaker 8: the Invisible Man and get on over to Morganton before
Speaker 8: it gets too late and I get picked up by
Speaker 8: a UFO.
Speaker 9: Is that okay?
Speaker 7: Nick?
Speaker 2: Sounds good to me, sir, Thank you very much, man,
Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. All right, Nick, we'll see you.
Speaker 9: We'll see you guys soon.
Speaker 2: All right, Yes, you will playda John yep.
Speaker 4: So we got uh, we got Jeremy and Douglas and
Speaker 4: interesting enough, I mean maybe we should just thought off
Speaker 4: this way, interesting enough. Brooke actually met them recently. So uh,
Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys, if you guys even
Speaker 4: wanted to talk about that, that's noted interesting to begin with,
Speaker 4: about how you guys even met.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we met at a bigfoot camp out
Speaker 1: put on North Carolina Bigfoot Adventures by Cheryl Peacock. She's
Speaker 1: fantastic and you guys can take it away.
Speaker 10: Oh, Trey, you're the guy.
Speaker 11: Well, I can talk all about the event, and I
Speaker 11: would love to, because it was a great time. But
Speaker 11: as far as the most entertaining part of that was
Speaker 11: there was somebody out there who.
Speaker 7: He just uh, he just took.
Speaker 11: It to the next level and it made it very
Speaker 11: entertaining a little spooky for some people, and he did
Speaker 11: not finish out the camping trip with everybody, but yeah,
Speaker 11: it definitely made for a great icebreaker for everybody else
Speaker 11: that was involved.
Speaker 2: He kind of got stuck talking everybody just about the situation. Right,
Speaker 2: that's interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was an experience, right, it was definitely definitely made.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was an experience. He was this person.
Speaker 11: There were a small hiccup in what was actually what
Speaker 11: I found for me, you know, this was And I'd
Speaker 11: like to add that this was my first outing in
Speaker 11: relation to the Orger organization that Douglas and I are
Speaker 11: a part of, and also just looking for Bigfoot as
Speaker 11: a whole and as an introduction to that.
Speaker 7: I thoroughly enjoyed every part of it. I want to
Speaker 7: add that it.
Speaker 11: Did not take away, you know, being my first time.
Speaker 11: It did not like, oh Jesus, everybody like this, like
Speaker 11: oh my gosh, you never come back. I didn't have
Speaker 11: those thoughts at all. I had a great time, and
Speaker 11: I think it was very productive as a whole.
Speaker 5: So, Jeremy and Douglas, I'd like to ask you about
Speaker 5: your feelings about Bigfoot. Do you feel like this is
Speaker 5: something that we can actually make contact with or is it?
Speaker 5: You know, there's a value in the folklore itself, right,
Speaker 5: So by passing on these traditions of Bigfoot, you're almost
Speaker 5: creating a community, right kennes See.
Speaker 11: Doug, Doug, I'll let you go first with your thoughts.
Speaker 11: He's also the president and founder of the organization, so
Speaker 11: I'll let him take it away first.
Speaker 12: Yeah, Douglas luck Miller, the president founder of the Center
Speaker 12: for Water Scripture Studies.
Speaker 10: We're a North Carolina nonprofit.
Speaker 12: Organization that is devoted to researching the possible existant to Bigfoot.
Speaker 2: So with that said, possible existence.
Speaker 10: Exactly, that's the way we approach it.
Speaker 12: We actually are almost kind of like approaching it to
Speaker 12: disprove it.
Speaker 2: Well, people think you're less cooky that way too, if you.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that give my myself an out for that.
Speaker 12: But now I'm fifty to fifty, I'm thinking that maybe
Speaker 12: there is, maybe there's not. It's I come from a
Speaker 12: law enforcement background. I was a traffic homicide investigator in
Speaker 12: South Florida, and.
Speaker 7: I think the.
Speaker 12: Looking into the possibilities of something is what intrigues me
Speaker 12: the most. And this is something that I spent a
Speaker 12: lot of time hiking in these mountains, and a lot
Speaker 12: of the times big bonds at night, sitting around the
Speaker 12: campfire trying to like scare each other, subject always comes
Speaker 12: up a Bigfoot and I'm like, you know, once I
Speaker 12: lost my hiking partner and wasn't able to really go
Speaker 12: out and do that anymore, I'm like, you know, what
Speaker 12: am I going to do to get back out there?
Speaker 12: And I'm like, this might be the best way to
Speaker 12: do it, get back out hiking again and have something
Speaker 12: to like maybe entertain myself, but also the possibilities of
Speaker 12: maybe finding something that nobody's been able to find before.
Speaker 12: So started up the organization went from there.
Speaker 5: There's value in the adventure.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right, That's what it is. It's not the
Speaker 2: ending destination. It was the eventure.
Speaker 12: They get there, yep, and you never know, I didn't
Speaker 12: finding something nice nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm actually interested in Bigfoot also, and well, my
Speaker 3: specialties is the ancient text, going back to the ancient
Speaker 3: text as far as back to the Marians actually, because
Speaker 3: they're supposed to be the oldest with the oldest writing system,
Speaker 3: and they have an individual in their name, Inky Do,
Speaker 3: and a lot of times this individual is depicted as
Speaker 3: something that would look like a bigfoot, sometimes with horns
Speaker 3: to show that it's an animal, sometimes with you know,
Speaker 3: legs like bull or something like that to show that it's.
Speaker 9: Animal, but a human head and human arms and stuff
Speaker 9: like that.
Speaker 3: He was a best friend to Gilgamesh, and they also
Speaker 3: talk about the type of hair he has. So when
Speaker 3: you say you're fifty to fifty on it, that's where
Speaker 3: I'm kind of the same way too, because we have
Speaker 3: ancient texts that says this. The only thing we don't
Speaker 3: have is actual physical evidence as one being seen with
Speaker 3: our eyes, you know what I'm saying, something that we
Speaker 3: can go to a museum or something to say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's a big foot. Yeah, we have you know, footprints
Speaker 3: and so on and so forth. But we also have
Speaker 3: footprints of humans going back sixty five million years. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's just facts right there. So the idea of a
Speaker 3: bigfoot is just extraordinary to me. And I actually we
Speaker 3: live in Georgia, and I know that Georgia has uh,
Speaker 3: you know, a lot of sightings and we have a
Speaker 3: lot of backwoods, and I'm back there and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: I actually walk back there and just you know, meditate
Speaker 3: sometimes and just you know, walk through the woods and
Speaker 3: sometimes you hear things that are not normal.
Speaker 9: But that's if you're not normally out there.
Speaker 3: If you're somebody that's usually out there a lot, you
Speaker 3: start to tend to, you know, put the noise to
Speaker 3: the type of animal and stuff like that. So, but
Speaker 3: as far as the Samerians, I believe the Samerians about
Speaker 3: thirty two hundred BC. I'm gonna say, eighteenth eighteenth century.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, yeah, about thirty two hundred BC, when
Speaker 3: the Samarans started their civilization. Uh, they've been you know,
Speaker 3: describing something that could be considered a big big foot.
Speaker 3: And I wanted to know from one of you guys,
Speaker 3: what's the oldest known tale that you know of a
Speaker 3: big foot?
Speaker 12: Wow, the oldest one for me, Robertson Gimlin would be
Speaker 12: for me, that's the oldest that I would know.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm actually kind of in the same beat with
Speaker 11: Doug when it comes to bigfoot related things. That was
Speaker 11: something that never really crossed my radar, and especially not
Speaker 11: related to ancient times in the time period that you're
Speaker 11: talking about. But I have always been pretty fascinated with
Speaker 11: the UFOs. So I've heard of very very very ancient
Speaker 11: depictions and scribings on the wall and whatnot related to aliens,
Speaker 11: but nothing with bigfoot. I'd have to be with Doug
Speaker 11: on that Patterson Gimlin was the or is the oldest
Speaker 11: reference to Bigfoot that I'm not aware of?
Speaker 3: Go ahead, I was gonna say, yeah, it's interesting because
Speaker 3: a lot of people don't talk about that, you know.
Speaker 3: And I came across this just maybe a couple of
Speaker 3: years ago when I was looking up who was Inky
Speaker 3: to and he's literally the best friend of Gyilga.
Speaker 9: Mash and he's literally depicted.
Speaker 3: I like, because we know that all writing system started
Speaker 3: as a pictographics script, right, It started with symbols, started
Speaker 3: with some type of picture depicting something what we can
Speaker 3: what we can describe, you know, visually, but not in
Speaker 3: the words that we can put it in as a
Speaker 3: as of today. And those depictions literally do shows something
Speaker 3: would be considered a Bigfoot. And when you mentioned aliens,
Speaker 3: the Sumerians, uh, it's a hidden miss there. It's an
Speaker 3: idea of them being you know, the Anina slash the
Speaker 3: Ananaki are aliens. It's just whether they're extraterrestrial or interterrestrial.
Speaker 3: And the idea that Bigfoot has this way of avoiding
Speaker 3: people with you know, some way of tapping into some
Speaker 3: type of portals or something like that.
Speaker 9: To stay away.
Speaker 3: There's there's all these theories in these ancient texts going
Speaker 3: even back to the Indus Valley civilization, even you know,
Speaker 3: going back with even the Aboriginal Australians that they talk
Speaker 3: about it inner text. So it's just interesting that you know,
Speaker 3: around the world. And I've talked to uh uh, what's
Speaker 3: his name, Michael Kremo, had a podcast discussion with him,
Speaker 3: and he's the Forbidden Archaeology and he has a whole
Speaker 3: chapter on Bigfoot in his book and he describes it
Speaker 3: from you know, the continents that you know humans live on,
Speaker 3: the different descriptions of them.
Speaker 9: Do you believe that Bigfoot is just not here? It's
Speaker 9: just you know, there's different.
Speaker 3: Species a bit big for depending on the continent, like
Speaker 3: you know how you know we have different you know,
Speaker 3: human races and stuff like that, Like YETI.
Speaker 9: Yeah, like Yetti exactly had Liz, thank you?
Speaker 2: Like YETI yeah, it's different diet too.
Speaker 11: Maybe I think if applying a scientific approach to it,
Speaker 11: that there would be definitely different versions of what bigfoot
Speaker 11: or like you said, yeti or whatever it might be
Speaker 11: called in other cultures and languages, because you know, based
Speaker 11: on where it would be geographically, would kind of determine
Speaker 11: if it needs to be tall or short, or skinny
Speaker 11: or fat or muscular or strong whatever, even the diet. Yes,
Speaker 11: so yeah, I could definitely see there being a bunch
Speaker 11: of different appearance variations to to.
Speaker 5: Wells an interesting story about that too. She actually got
Speaker 5: a lot of footprints from the swamps down there in Florida,
Speaker 5: and it was a different size and a different shape,
Speaker 5: but it's still sort of similar in morphology from you know,
Speaker 5: maybe up in Georgia there's there's much more taller and
Speaker 5: more robust versions, but in the in the Florida swamps,
Speaker 5: they seem to be a little bit smaller. So you
Speaker 5: have these regional variations of the sightings that you see
Speaker 5: that regards the ones in.
Speaker 2: Italy and mad short, so their feet a little bit small.
Speaker 1: We must have the Italian ones down here, because you
Speaker 1: know that is true as far as the skuncake goes.
Speaker 1: There's a debate in the community right now if they
Speaker 1: have four toes or the traditional five as well as
Speaker 1: they do have different features, especially where you guys are
Speaker 1: in North Carolina. You know, I've heard reports of all
Speaker 1: gray ones and even black. I think though what the
Speaker 1: camp out we were at, Cheryl was actually able to
Speaker 1: bring a witness there who had an encounter literally rate
Speaker 1: in front of the campground, and she did describe it
Speaker 1: as a cinnamon color, and that's or the dude did.
Speaker 1: But that's kind of the variation we hear a lot
Speaker 1: down here too, is that they're more of the orange colors.
Speaker 1: But as you move up into the Appalachians, like North Carolina,
Speaker 1: North Georgia and so on, they do change in appearance.
Speaker 1: You hear they're really tall all black. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: think there's a little bit of a difference there.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 11: We have a footprint that we've we didn't get to
Speaker 11: cast it. At the time that we discovered this footprint,
Speaker 11: we didn't have the capability to cast it, but we
Speaker 11: did get a three D scan of it that is
Speaker 11: on our website and it matches up with all the
Speaker 11: other more fallow that you're seeing, you know, from people
Speaker 11: that are getting cast and stuff. It was a left
Speaker 11: and right. There was a break, you know, a heel
Speaker 11: that this one had five toes. Yes, and we've got
Speaker 11: that scan on our website to where you know, you
Speaker 11: could you could google it right now on a phone
Speaker 11: or a computer or whatever you've got, and you can
Speaker 11: kind of, you know, change it around and look and
Speaker 11: see from different angles. And I think it's it makes
Speaker 11: a really good case for something that looks like it
Speaker 11: could be a footprint or left and the right footprint,
Speaker 11: and it has, Doug, what is it a six feet apart?
Speaker 12: I think we've done six, yes, fourteen inch long footprint
Speaker 12: left and a right about six foot gate and then
Speaker 12: it went into some rocks and we weren't able to
Speaker 12: get any further than that. But we couldn't cast anything.
Speaker 12: It was in leaves and mud, but we were able
Speaker 12: to do it with scan a verse, get a scan
Speaker 12: that way and it turned out actually pretty good.
Speaker 2: Very nice. Go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 5: The technology angle. What kind of technology are you guys
Speaker 5: bringing to these investigations.
Speaker 7: Doug, you want to? You want to sound it up
Speaker 7: or you won't need to. What do we have We've
Speaker 7: got basically you name it?
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's just about right.
Speaker 12: We've invested a ton of money and everything. It's like
Speaker 12: actually invested and stuff so quickly. It's kind of hard
Speaker 12: to like be able to learn what it is because
Speaker 12: of the fact that we're just gaining it so quickly.
Speaker 12: But uh, while life acoustics for everything, they for the
Speaker 12: audio part of it's wild tronics for the uh, parabolics,
Speaker 12: zoom for the H one, n like everybody normally uses
Speaker 12: with that kind of stuff, So we can leave it
Speaker 12: out there.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 12: The problem that I have been finding is that we
Speaker 12: have been investing in some equipment and most of the
Speaker 12: time when we're going out, we're going out into public areas,
Speaker 12: and it's kind of hard to leave a lot of
Speaker 12: stuff behind afraid that it's going to be taken. So
Speaker 12: we're being kind of like conservative on what we do
Speaker 12: with it. But that the night vision thermals, we've give
Speaker 12: a cottage chief and just keep going with what we've got.
Speaker 10: It's hard for me to remember everything.
Speaker 11: But yeah, we've got flear thermal night vision, all cameras,
Speaker 11: we've got the ld rs, the parabolic mics, we've got
Speaker 11: just you know, we've got basic game cans, Doug, do
Speaker 11: we have light are.
Speaker 12: Now well light aer on the iPhone. That's that's the
Speaker 12: best we've got for that. Okay, that's sinners.
Speaker 11: We are trying to cover every ground that we possibly
Speaker 11: can as far as data collection goes. And like Doug said,
Speaker 11: some of this stuff, like the ld rs and the
Speaker 11: game cams, you know, it does get kind of dicey
Speaker 11: leaving them out in public places because you see online
Speaker 11: all the time people just finding that stuff and tearing
Speaker 11: it up. But when it comes to people that might
Speaker 11: have a private property where we could leave these things
Speaker 11: and trusts that they're going to be okay, or if
Speaker 11: we're able to be out there physically with this equipment
Speaker 11: and you know, watch over it and stuff, we are
Speaker 11: trying to cover every ground that we possibly can and
Speaker 11: collect data from every angle that we can come up with.
Speaker 1: Now, what was it that you guys deployed on the
Speaker 1: camp out that we were at. I know you guys
Speaker 1: were back in the woods. I turned around and my
Speaker 1: research partner Marion is with Doug and they are like
Speaker 1: deep in the woods behind the campground kind of where
Speaker 1: a group camp was. We were all set up and
Speaker 1: rooms firing, and there's a bit of a ridge that
Speaker 1: goes up then it kind of clears out and I
Speaker 1: know they were back there doing something with the audio.
Speaker 1: So what were what were you guys up to and
Speaker 1: did you guys capture anything.
Speaker 12: I haven't been able to go through all of it yet,
Speaker 12: so don't know. Those were the Wildlife Acoustic recorders. I
Speaker 12: think they're I'm trying to think what the name of
Speaker 12: those are song meter micro. I think we had three
Speaker 12: of them out there after we had heard the next
Speaker 12: morning that everything was going on up in the back
Speaker 12: of the woods and around some of the tents. So
Speaker 12: we've deployed three of them out. Haven't been able to
Speaker 12: go through all of it yet. They're all three of
Speaker 12: them were running for probably twelve hours, so we've got
Speaker 12: all that to listen.
Speaker 10: Haven't been able to get through all of it yet.
Speaker 10: Haven't heard anything yet though.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 11: One of the big struggles with that is it's just
Speaker 11: Doug and I and you know, I mean, like Doug said,
Speaker 11: we had twelve hours of audio per per recorders. So
Speaker 11: leave those out there for a weekend or even a
Speaker 11: full day and it gets very difficult. And one of
Speaker 11: the struggles we are having with the LDRs that that
Speaker 11: neither one of us are a prize too, but a
Speaker 11: way to you know, filter out things because you know,
Speaker 11: for example, well right now, if you've go outside, there's
Speaker 11: gonna be some ambient noise.
Speaker 7: We don't need to listen.
Speaker 11: To that, and we probably wouldn't hear Bigfoot at that
Speaker 11: same volume at you know, just for twenty four hours
Speaker 11: or indefinitely. One of the things that I would love
Speaker 11: to find a solution to is being able to filter
Speaker 11: out decibel volumes. I'm not even I'm not an audio
Speaker 11: person's I'm not I don't even know what terms to use.
Speaker 11: But if that makes sense, like if all the audio
Speaker 11: is going across like this for hours and hours and hours,
Speaker 11: cut all that out, use AI to do it, or
Speaker 11: some software.
Speaker 3: And just get Audacity helps with that. What was that Audacity?
Speaker 3: Audacity will help with that.
Speaker 7: Okay, cool. So it's a free program.
Speaker 9: It's a free program, is very simple.
Speaker 3: It will help for that. It would definitely help for
Speaker 3: that to free. I use that a lot myself. You'll
Speaker 3: take out all the background noise that that's in the back.
Speaker 3: What you'll do is basically copy a snippet of that
Speaker 3: background noise and then it will go through the whole
Speaker 3: entire track and take all of that out for you.
Speaker 7: Awesome.
Speaker 11: I'd love to We would love to connect with you afterwards.
Speaker 7: We can do that.
Speaker 9: We can do that.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, right now, what we've got is kaleidoscope that's
Speaker 12: given to us for free from Wildlife Acoustics.
Speaker 10: It's very advanced a little bit more advanced than what
Speaker 10: I can figure out.
Speaker 12: They kind of tailor everything towards bats those types of frequency,
Speaker 12: so they've got there for that, so we have to
Speaker 12: kind of go through and kind of tweak it a
Speaker 12: little bit.
Speaker 13: Yeah, excuse me, I'm sorry, I'm late to the party.
Speaker 13: You've probably already discussed this. You'all are using game cameras.
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, I'm not sure what you what you did here?
Speaker 11: Would you would you like me to go through the
Speaker 11: whole list of what we've done.
Speaker 13: I was just curious about the game cameras, like in
Speaker 13: terms of like monitoring them with your cell phone and
Speaker 13: stuff like that.
Speaker 12: We don't because the locations that we're in a lot
Speaker 12: of it's in the valley down in Gorgeous so we
Speaker 12: can't get cell service around here.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 12: What we've been finding the best for trail cams is
Speaker 12: to find out what kind of movement we're getting around
Speaker 12: the area.
Speaker 10: Probably not going to get.
Speaker 12: Anything Bigfoot related, but there have been a few things
Speaker 12: that we have found that we couldn't understand what they were.
Speaker 12: There were certain like markings in the ground through the leaves,
Speaker 12: and we're like, what is creating that. It almost kind
Speaker 12: of looked like something was being drugged through there. Set
Speaker 12: up some cameras, went back and got the cameras, found
Speaker 12: out wild turkey going through there, scratching through trying to
Speaker 12: find out what's going because it wasn't hall. We knew
Speaker 12: it wasn't that, But that's where we're finding the game
Speaker 12: cams are working. The best for us is to find
Speaker 12: out what kind of activity is going on through there,
Speaker 12: so we can just kind of eliminate that from the process.
Speaker 11: And I'd like to mention that I think that that's
Speaker 11: super good because someone might find Oh, it's like we
Speaker 11: keep putting this stuff out there, and we're now proving
Speaker 11: because we've got it on camera that it was totally
Speaker 11: just a normal thing like the wild turkeys.
Speaker 7: But I think that having that kind of data.
Speaker 11: Is super important for the cause in the community because
Speaker 11: it's like, Okay, we now have photographic and video evidence
Speaker 11: of something that we don't know what it is, and
Speaker 11: then we film and find out what caused it. So
Speaker 11: now you can kind of put those things together for
Speaker 11: the community to say, Okay, if you're on your own
Speaker 11: adventure and you see something that looks like this, here's
Speaker 11: some documentation to back up that it could be a turkey.
Speaker 11: Doesn't mean it's certain, you know, nothing's ever one hundred percent,
Speaker 11: But I think finding a lot of stuff an explanation
Speaker 11: to a lot of these things, even if it's not
Speaker 11: what we all want it to be, is really good too,
Speaker 11: because it helps a shortened somebody else's process trying to
Speaker 11: you know, complete the same goal that we're all trying
Speaker 11: to complete, if that makes sense.
Speaker 5: The regional variations would definitely make a difference, especially if
Speaker 5: you're going bigfoot hunting and you're going to want to
Speaker 5: eliminate these things quicker than in other cases, so you've
Speaker 5: already got those things marked off to let that happen quicker.
Speaker 1: And mister Tray is also an arborist, so he kind
Speaker 1: of brings a special knowledge to investigations, so during the
Speaker 1: trip we relied on him. We came across some really
Speaker 1: interesting tree structures and I have posted them on my page.
Speaker 1: They were off of trail on top of this mountain. Again,
Speaker 1: no service. I don't even know how to get there.
Speaker 1: I was at Chryl's will, just kind of blindly trusting her,
Speaker 1: and she leads us off trail and we get to
Speaker 1: these interesting structures. So it was really cool to have
Speaker 1: Trey there to kind of point out and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a natural tree break or this is how
Speaker 1: trees shut their leaves in order to survive. So I
Speaker 1: thought that was a really cool perspective that was brought
Speaker 1: to the investigation.
Speaker 11: Yes, yes, and it doesn't have to be right now,
Speaker 11: but I would love to go into detail about the
Speaker 11: things that I saw because and the background on me,
Speaker 11: Doug told you that he was fifty to fifty. I
Speaker 11: am actually a non believer from my experience. My entire
Speaker 11: career has been based out in the woods, and I've
Speaker 11: just never had a classic experience or even anything that
Speaker 11: I couldn't even explain. And being on the science side
Speaker 11: of it with the arborous stuff, that's where I settle
Speaker 11: on it. But I want it to be real, so
Speaker 11: money where my mouth is. I'm getting out there, and
Speaker 11: at some point I would really like to talk about
Speaker 11: the things that I found with the group a couple
Speaker 11: of weekends ago, because I did there was it was
Speaker 11: honestly some some things that I couldn't explain, and I think,
Speaker 11: you know it needs to be referenced for sure.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, go ahead.
Speaker 11: Okay, Well, like Brookes said, we we had we had
Speaker 11: to drive a little ways from the actual campsite and
Speaker 11: then we went on a short hike and get to
Speaker 11: this point and she had marked it. She had been
Speaker 11: back there and it marked it, so we knew where
Speaker 11: to turn left basically and then go off deep into
Speaker 11: the woods to what was an apparent structure. And in
Speaker 11: my opinion, what I saw about the structure, I couldn't
Speaker 11: really apply any of my knowledge to what it was,
Speaker 11: but it was definitely something that was not whether it
Speaker 11: was a person or a bigfoot. It was something that
Speaker 11: was intentionally done. But there was nothing there that I
Speaker 11: could really kind of examine and explain. But what I
Speaker 11: found the most interest was around this supposed structure was well, so,
Speaker 11: first and foremost, let me describe the setting that we're
Speaker 11: We're in a attractive land where all of the trees
Speaker 11: were what in my industry you would call twelve to
Speaker 11: eighteen inch trees, so that means they're all young. This
Speaker 11: area had been logged at some point None of these
Speaker 11: trees were very big. None of these trees had branches
Speaker 11: that were more than twelve inches two feet at the best.
Speaker 11: But what we were finding was there would be thirty
Speaker 11: or forty foot long, approximately two to four inch branches
Speaker 11: or trees stacked in between the unions of these younger
Speaker 11: living trees, and they all pointed back to the same way.
Speaker 11: We followed them into the woods, and we kept going,
Speaker 11: and we kept going, and we would find them, and
Speaker 11: it's like, Okay, these are branches or trees that are
Speaker 11: way too long and thick in diameter to come from
Speaker 11: the trees that they're stacked against.
Speaker 7: And where the unions were.
Speaker 11: And when I say a union, I'm talking about a
Speaker 11: tree that had grown off into two stems, So imagine
Speaker 11: a v kind of like this. They would be wedged
Speaker 11: in there and the living tree had grown around it
Speaker 11: to an extent that I would approximate be at least
Speaker 11: five years. So for five years that had been sitting
Speaker 11: there like that, all pointing in the same direction everything
Speaker 11: we looked at. We kept finding them and they all
Speaker 11: went in the same place. And again, way too big,
Speaker 11: two have come off, and they were dead too. They
Speaker 11: were so dead I couldn't tell what species of tree
Speaker 11: or branch they were, but again, way too big to
Speaker 11: have come off what they were being wedged into or against.
Speaker 11: And I found that super super interesting and it and
Speaker 11: it didn't not know it I would I don't even
Speaker 11: think I would say that it led back to the road.
Speaker 11: It wasn't something where a hiker or a hunter could
Speaker 11: have put there to guide him back to the road.
Speaker 11: I don't honestly feel like it pointed to the road.
Speaker 11: But it eventually it got to the point where if
Speaker 11: it is pointing in this direction, if I walk over there,
Speaker 11: I'm going to find another one and it'll point in
Speaker 11: a direction and if I walk there, it will go there.
Speaker 11: And I ended up following that until I couldn't find anymore.
Speaker 11: And so I thought that was really really really interesting.
Speaker 11: And again it all of these living trees had grown
Speaker 11: around the dead branches to the to what I would
Speaker 11: say is at least five years old minimum.
Speaker 7: I mean they.
Speaker 5: Were esoteric Bigfoot architecture. Is that what I'm getting.
Speaker 11: It definitely could be. It definitely could be. I mean,
Speaker 11: it didn't have a rhyme or reason. Like I said,
Speaker 11: it didn't have a rhyme or reason, Like, if I'm
Speaker 11: a hunter and I'm gonna go hunt and I'm going
Speaker 11: to put up these structures, I'm going to point back
Speaker 11: to the road.
Speaker 7: Well they didn't.
Speaker 11: Or if I'm a hiker and i want to get
Speaker 11: out of here, I'm going to point back to the road.
Speaker 7: They didn't. They didn't even.
Speaker 11: Point back in the direction of, to my knowledge, the
Speaker 11: entrance to this area.
Speaker 7: Does that make sense, like.
Speaker 5: They were mapping something completely different.
Speaker 11: Yeah, So I did not feel like there was a
Speaker 11: rhyme or reason for what a person would do with
Speaker 11: these things, but they definitely, Like I said, if if
Speaker 11: I saw one and I walked either against it or
Speaker 11: towards it in whatever direction it was pointing, I would
Speaker 11: find another one, and or other people would too. Because
Speaker 11: it Brooke was there, she brought me to one, and
Speaker 11: everybody was. We were just finding them, and it was
Speaker 11: just we're all snaked through the woods going on some
Speaker 11: path and eventually got to the end of it. So
Speaker 11: never did find what you and I would consider a destination,
Speaker 11: but it definitely meant something for whoever put those things there.
Speaker 5: Portal theory, they were doing something with portals.
Speaker 11: I have heard that, and I don't know a lot
Speaker 11: about that yet, but I have heard that people think
Speaker 11: that Bigfoot is possibly interdimensional. Maybe if you or somebody
Speaker 11: else in the group knows more about that, I'd love
Speaker 11: to hear it because I've heard it, but I don't know.
Speaker 3: That's what I was just talking about, that he might
Speaker 3: have some type of portal or they have some type
Speaker 3: of portal where they can just appear. They have some
Speaker 3: kind of way to avoid human detection only when they
Speaker 3: want to, they will allow that. There's actually a case
Speaker 3: I can't remember. I have to look it up. There
Speaker 3: was this lady that actually had a relationship with a
Speaker 3: Bigfoot family when she was like three years old. It
Speaker 3: used to be a video on YouTube about her, but
Speaker 3: unfortunately it is no longer there. I actually talked about
Speaker 3: this a couple of weeks ago in Nix's previous show. Uh,
Speaker 3: she she had a relationship and she was I think
Speaker 3: she was a little little girl.
Speaker 9: I can't remember the age. And uh, it was a
Speaker 9: few of them.
Speaker 3: And they you know, communicated with her the best way
Speaker 3: they could, of course, and they would tell her bring
Speaker 3: her back to you know, where they stayed at and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. It was the actually YouTube docu it
Speaker 3: was a YouTube video of a documentary that she actually
Speaker 3: had that was on there is it? The website is
Speaker 3: still love about it. Uh, there's an article about it still,
Speaker 3: but where the link for the YouTube is no longer there.
Speaker 1: I think that was Janie Carter.
Speaker 2: Never heard of this. That sounds wild though.
Speaker 5: Lots of people.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I look it up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a weird story because she it just
Speaker 3: it's it was well known in the nineties, I believe
Speaker 3: it was, and it was very big and she talked
Speaker 3: about it. I remember her being on different talk stations
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, and they actually had did an
Speaker 3: interview and all this other stuff, and she talked about
Speaker 3: it like actually like it was a real life thing
Speaker 3: to her, like you like this was her second family basically.
Speaker 9: And I'll bring up the article in a second. I'll
Speaker 9: do it in the same.
Speaker 5: Lots of people in the nineteen seventies report having gone
Speaker 5: to these uh you know, camping facilities that their families
Speaker 5: would return back to every year to actually interact with
Speaker 5: and you know, like play with children Bigfoot. I've heard
Speaker 5: like several different batches of stories of people who have
Speaker 5: had these like childlike experiences with Bigfoot. It seems like
Speaker 5: maybe they're more a part of our story that we
Speaker 5: actually admit to ourselves, like maybe we've had interaction that
Speaker 5: we don't fully remember. And that's kind of how they operate.
Speaker 5: Because I noticed a lot of different memory of facts
Speaker 5: that go on with people having interaction with Bigfoot, kind
Speaker 5: of like UFOs too. Have you guys noticed that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And you know it's so funny because I have
Speaker 3: to bring up I have to bring my source up
Speaker 3: is my own source from my website, rebirth atlehord dot com,
Speaker 3: because I actually wrote an article about it, and I
Speaker 3: included her story within my article. So I'm bringing that
Speaker 3: up right now. But it wasn't too long ago when
Speaker 3: she had this full story. But yeah, I know exactly
Speaker 3: what you're talking about. There's all this stuff seems to
Speaker 3: sit here and come together one way or another, and
Speaker 3: these stories come. Like I said, that's why I go
Speaker 3: back to the ancient myths to see what these people
Speaker 3: were talking about back then, because if it's always been there,
Speaker 3: then that means that in the beginning of our writing system,
Speaker 3: it was important for them to write this stuff down
Speaker 3: because it was something that they couldn't explain, so they
Speaker 3: had to write.
Speaker 9: It down for future reference.
Speaker 5: I guess right, Well, it seems like there's an overlap
Speaker 5: between what's sort of real and what is is like
Speaker 5: between imagination and reality, like a lot of missing time
Speaker 5: is associated with them as well. So I don't know
Speaker 5: if that, if that's a common thing that could be
Speaker 5: maybe tracked through other different instruments, because we're talking about
Speaker 5: frequencies and vibrations, then maybe have an effect on people
Speaker 5: in ways we don't fully understand.
Speaker 11: You know, Doug has had a possible infra sound experience.
Speaker 5: That's what I want to hear about.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 12: One night out camping in one of our research areas,
Speaker 12: I was out there with one other person. We barbecued
Speaker 12: that night, both had the exact same food, got didn't eating.
Speaker 12: Half hour later, we're sitting there watching a movie on
Speaker 12: the iPad and instantly I got hit. Was something that
Speaker 12: I had to throw up. Jumped up, got maybe two
Speaker 12: feet down, started throwing up my guts stop, felt fine,
Speaker 12: wasn't sick, sat back down like that was kind of strange.
Speaker 10: I don't know what that was all about.
Speaker 12: Hadn't been drinking, ran out of alcohol the day before,
Speaker 12: so I hadn't been drinking all night long, probably another
Speaker 12: twelve or thirteen times. All I was doing was throwing
Speaker 12: my guts up, just kept throwing up instantly, would come
Speaker 12: back around, throw up again. The person that I was with,
Speaker 12: I sleep in a tent because I want to be
Speaker 12: able to hear everything that's going on around me. The
Speaker 12: person that I was with was sleeping in her truck
Speaker 12: and she's like, I nothing's bothering me. I feel fine.
Speaker 12: Ate the same food that you're eating. It wasn't anything
Speaker 12: that we.
Speaker 10: Ate all night long. Just kept throwing Never had anything
Speaker 10: like that happen before.
Speaker 7: I don't know what it was.
Speaker 10: I'm not saying it was infrasound.
Speaker 12: But we were in an area where there's been a
Speaker 12: lot of activity, so.
Speaker 10: Maybe I don't know. I'm not going to say it
Speaker 10: was it.
Speaker 12: For some saying that it was something extremely unusual and
Speaker 12: I was throwing up all night long, instantly, just would
Speaker 12: hit me. Felt fine, no stomach ache, no fever, no headache, nothing,
Speaker 12: sitting there talking, next thing I know, to start throwing
Speaker 12: up again.
Speaker 10: Ye for some maybe don't.
Speaker 5: Know ultra low frequency waves right there, I mean, there's
Speaker 5: some sort of residence effect.
Speaker 12: Could be I don't know, never had that happen before,
Speaker 12: spent countless days out in the mountains, never had anything
Speaker 12: like that happen before.
Speaker 11: I wanted to be there was somebody else who experienced
Speaker 11: other than that part, exactly the same thing as you did,
Speaker 11: the same hike, stayed in the same place, ate the
Speaker 11: same food. And then they're like, I don't know, and
Speaker 11: then it's just you and you. And I've known Doug
Speaker 11: for a ten decade now, over ten years at this point,
Speaker 11: and he I can't even remember the last time he's
Speaker 11: been sick, so I to add that into it. He's
Speaker 11: not somebody that's just going to end up with food,
Speaker 11: poison air being sick just from the.
Speaker 7: Time that I'm done.
Speaker 4: That's shitty. At least it wasn't coming out. That's definitely shitty.
Speaker 4: Something I didn't want to ask. Maybe Brook, I'll even
Speaker 4: put you in that ass too, three of youse, because
Speaker 4: it is something I was thinking about today.
Speaker 2: What would happen?
Speaker 4: Like, all right, you're in the woods, You're turning a
Speaker 4: corner and there is ten feet in front of you,
Speaker 4: there is no Now what do you do?
Speaker 2: You got your big foot?
Speaker 7: Now what I can tell you that I'm going to
Speaker 7: to do.
Speaker 11: Everything I can, to the detriment of my own safety,
Speaker 11: to physically get a hold of big Foot. I'm not
Speaker 11: gonna try to kill him or her or the child
Speaker 11: or whatever whatever version of it I run into, but
Speaker 11: I will do everything in my power to somehow become
Speaker 11: attached to that thing, ride it like it's a freaking
Speaker 11: rodeo horse if I have to, and get my phone recording,
Speaker 11: I'm going right in.
Speaker 7: I'm going right in.
Speaker 1: You want to do it because you can't tell from
Speaker 1: his video, but he's like six four or five. He's
Speaker 1: a big guy, so he might be able to pull
Speaker 1: that off.
Speaker 11: I think I'm actually technically taller than the average height
Speaker 11: of the skuncake. I think you're correct, But no, I
Speaker 11: my people have asked me like, what do you have
Speaker 11: a death wish? Or this, that and the other, And no,
Speaker 11: nobody has a death wish, at least I don't or
Speaker 11: anybody I know. But what I do for a being
Speaker 11: an arborist puts me in a lot of adrenaline inducing,
Speaker 11: potentially deadly scenarios that that you know obviously have all
Speaker 11: gone well so far, and so I'm not when something
Speaker 11: like that happens and you get an adrenaline dump. You know,
Speaker 11: I'm one hundred feet in the air, I'm going to
Speaker 11: take a thirty foot top and I'm going to get
Speaker 11: rocked back and forth, and it's.
Speaker 7: Raining and blah blah blah.
Speaker 11: And I you know, as I've done that in my
Speaker 11: entire adult life, and so when I get inserted into
Speaker 11: an outside scenario where it would be particularly spooky or something.
Speaker 7: I'm like whatever.
Speaker 11: So, yeah, I can tell you if I turned the
Speaker 11: corner and saw a bigfoot, the first thing I'm going
Speaker 11: to do is trying to get a hold of it.
Speaker 11: And then the second thing I'll try to do is
Speaker 11: get my phone recording or somebody else is hopefully there
Speaker 11: with me and filming as well, and then they can
Speaker 11: get to safety and get it out to everybody.
Speaker 7: But yeah, that would be Michael.
Speaker 11: That would be the first thing I did.
Speaker 5: You gotta get you gotta get the throat right in
Speaker 5: the middle of the pocket right there, Get right behind him,
Speaker 5: see if you can knock him out.
Speaker 10: Check it out.
Speaker 4: What about you, Douglas, I have no idea have you
Speaker 4: any of you really thought of that?
Speaker 10: Though?
Speaker 2: Like, what happens if this guy's like just chilling right
Speaker 2: in front of you.
Speaker 12: And the last few times that I've been out camping,
Speaker 12: we were out in areas where it was extremely unusual
Speaker 12: the activity was going on. I'd slept with my the
Speaker 12: door on my tent completely open, hoping something would come up,
Speaker 12: waiting to see if I could see something.
Speaker 10: I don't know what I would do it ended up
Speaker 10: happening walk up to me.
Speaker 4: It's like I was thinking about that myself today. I
Speaker 4: was just like, cause I, you know, I have been
Speaker 4: interested to go on these things, and I was like,
Speaker 4: what do you actually do if you actually like? Was
Speaker 4: it just a race to whoever could start snapping pictures?
Speaker 4: But people are actually gonna get fucking and run when they
Speaker 4: actually see them? People going to shit themselves? You know,
Speaker 4: is the thing going to come at you? I start
Speaker 4: to wonder, like, if I actually come up on this motherfucker,
Speaker 4: what am I really getting done?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 2: What am I going to accomplish? Unless I had a
Speaker 2: sound was fucked up?
Speaker 4: Unless I'm tagging and begging that motherfucker, what am I
Speaker 4: really doing?
Speaker 13: I don't think you.
Speaker 1: Really know until you're put into that situation. I think
Speaker 1: people tend to have and I fight, fight or freeze.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what kicks in. And I know when
Speaker 1: I had my experience out of the woods and I
Speaker 1: saw what I saw, and I knew that I was
Speaker 1: seeing something that I shouldn't be seeing and that seemingly
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to be possible.
Speaker 5: I was scared.
Speaker 1: And I'll be the first person to tell you like,
Speaker 1: I was genuinely really frightened in that moment, and I
Speaker 1: wanted to leave. I wanted to get out of that area.
Speaker 1: I wanted to turn around, I wanted to go back.
Speaker 1: But then I had to like quickly recenter and refocus
Speaker 1: and go, Okay, this is what I'm here for, get
Speaker 1: it together, and like let's keep pushing on as it.
Speaker 1: But then you have other people, for example, Brian king Sharp,
Speaker 1: who has a very similar encounter to what I have.
Speaker 1: He has a law enforcement background and he went charging
Speaker 1: head first at this thing. So I think it depends
Speaker 1: on the person on really what happens, but it is
Speaker 1: it does force you to kind of think about it,
Speaker 1: because sometimes people have really negative encounters and it scares
Speaker 1: them out of the woods for the rest of their life.
Speaker 1: So I think it's a case by case, in person
Speaker 1: by person but it is good that you're giving it
Speaker 1: forethought if you're going to go out there, because you
Speaker 1: have to be ready that you know, you might see
Speaker 1: exactly what you're looking for.
Speaker 2: Rights He had even thought, I'd just be totally honest
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 4: Even if you've got like quality footage, people are still
Speaker 4: going to say, that's fucking aim fake. So unless you
Speaker 4: have the body, what do you still prove?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they still wouldn't believe it because they would
Speaker 3: have to be seeing the body for themselves. It's always
Speaker 3: going to be an argument against right. You could show
Speaker 3: the body on television, they're gonna be like, oh, that's
Speaker 3: not real.
Speaker 9: You need to show a video show.
Speaker 4: Like personally you could show I mean, you can at
Speaker 4: least show some people that would actually change their minds,
Speaker 4: I know, on TV, and once you hit social media
Speaker 4: will still get questioned. Yep, driving around the motherfucking stropped
Speaker 4: to the hood of my god, really fucking SIGNI I mean,
Speaker 4: what is evidence though?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 9: I mean, what is that really?
Speaker 3: I mean, is the ancient text enough evidence to go
Speaker 3: out there and say for people to go out there
Speaker 3: and research it. Going in the woods and hearing something
Speaker 3: that's not familiar that you've been in the woods for
Speaker 3: the last fifteen twenty years of your life that you
Speaker 3: never heard. Is that evidence enough for you to go
Speaker 3: out there and seek what would be a bigfoot? Is
Speaker 3: could the idea that you have these folklore tours like
Speaker 3: the skunk Akee, like we have different tales here in
Speaker 3: Georgia about the different types of bigfoots and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: I mean, these old tales around the bonfire, you know,
Speaker 3: the campfire whatever. Is that enough evidence to go out
Speaker 3: there and believe that there's a bigfoot? Absolutely? The evidence
Speaker 3: is the curiosity. That's enough evidence, the curiosity because something
Speaker 3: has put your mind to sit there and say, hey,
Speaker 3: I have to go seek this information out now. The
Speaker 3: evidence can determine whether it's fact and fiction.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Evidence can say, well, it's evident that it's fake, right
Speaker 3: because of this that and the third, or evidence that
Speaker 3: is evident that is real because of this, that and
Speaker 3: the third. So, I mean the evidence that people are
Speaker 3: looking for are different.
Speaker 14: What's that, bro, You're talking about kind of a cover up?
Speaker 14: Like I kind of feel that there's sort of a
Speaker 14: cover up around this stuff and we're not getting the
Speaker 14: full picture from the people who have been telling us
Speaker 14: that we're crazy for you know, just describing what we
Speaker 14: see in front of our faces. I mean, is not
Speaker 14: essentially where we're going. I mean who's doing the cover up?
Speaker 7: And for what?
Speaker 9: That's what I want to know, and why?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: For what?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 3: The five w's is the questions that I always ask,
Speaker 3: you know? And and why is the most important?
Speaker 9: Why Why is it a cover what's the big deal?
Speaker 3: We already know there's different animals out there, So what
Speaker 3: is the difference with Bigfoot between them and us? And
Speaker 3: if they do have the ability to avoid humans because
Speaker 3: of their whatever amazing capabilities.
Speaker 9: That they have, is that are we able to do that?
Speaker 3: Because like I said, I go back to the ancient
Speaker 3: text and I mean that's what they tell us.
Speaker 9: It is what they said in the most simplest form.
Speaker 3: Now we are in a you know, the more advanced
Speaker 3: way of writing and systems and understandings and comprehension. Comprehension
Speaker 3: plays a lot biggest part of all of it.
Speaker 1: I have a theory as to the why it's covered up.
Speaker 1: And this is just my own personal theory that I
Speaker 1: like thinking about. If you're familiar with Dave Politis, he's
Speaker 1: done all of the Missing Forward one documentaries, and he
Speaker 1: used to research with the late Scott Carpenter. He has
Speaker 1: since passed away, but he researched in the Appalachian Mountains
Speaker 1: and they had a really good friendship and they did
Speaker 1: this set of experiments to where they were able to
Speaker 1: capture what they believe is Bigfoot. So he said the
Speaker 1: best way to do this is that they loved McDonald's pancakes,
Speaker 1: and he kind of jokes about it in his presentation.
Speaker 1: And they would put it up in a tree about
Speaker 1: ten twelve feet up and they would wrap tape around
Speaker 1: the tree with the sticky side out, leave it come back.
Speaker 1: And the way that they would do it was so
Speaker 1: that way they would try to capture some of the
Speaker 1: arm hair while they're reaching for the food. They were
Speaker 1: able to obtain some samples that did have and this
Speaker 1: is really so will come in with the technical side
Speaker 1: of things. They had I guess the medulla or the
Speaker 1: DNA section of the hair, so they were able to
Speaker 1: send them off to gen Bank. And when the samples
Speaker 1: were sent off to GenBank, it came back with no
Speaker 1: known side on the father, but for the mother's side,
Speaker 1: it went all the way back two thousand years ago
Speaker 1: to the Middle East, which leads to your theory that
Speaker 1: they were potentially, you know, these supernatural beings of sort,
Speaker 1: maybe demigods, you know, ancient gods of old the giants.
Speaker 1: That leads into the Book of Enoch potentially having lending
Speaker 1: some crudence there because Adam GenBank, with all of the
Speaker 1: samples it has, it had no known match on the
Speaker 1: father's side. So that takes us back to Genesis six
Speaker 1: where it talks about, you know, how the fallen angels
Speaker 1: came down and bred with women. And I think that
Speaker 1: that's really interesting, and I think the reason why maybe
Speaker 1: they want to cover up Bigfoot is that it does
Speaker 1: have these ancient roots and it leads to proof that
Speaker 1: there is something supernatural happening, that we are somehow tied
Speaker 1: to the heavens, and that you know, there's just all this,
Speaker 1: you know, other stuff happening besides us just hurling through
Speaker 1: space with no purpose. So I think that that could
Speaker 1: be a reason for the cover up.
Speaker 13: The they hair samples on the DNA that usually what
Speaker 13: you can test is m RNA because that is the
Speaker 13: least degradable RNA has passed through the matrial line and
Speaker 13: so you probably will not get parental DNA because you're
Speaker 13: looking at mitochondrial DNA, and so that's probably why it
Speaker 13: may have been that there wasn't as much parental DNA
Speaker 13: available to tests that that that could just be a
Speaker 13: reason why. But usually whenever you look, especially with crime scenes,
Speaker 13: you know they'll find you know, hair DNA, mitochondrial donating.
Speaker 13: You know for a fact, these these people could potentially
Speaker 13: be in in the cohort of uh you know, related
Speaker 13: to that hair denna, but it's within an actual sibling
Speaker 13: or natural line, not so much paternal line. But I
Speaker 13: had a I had a question with the sightings of
Speaker 13: of bigfoot is and this question is more for Jeremy
Speaker 13: the others. Is there a specific habitat that seems to
Speaker 13: lend itself more to I guess where it occurs or
Speaker 13: where most people see it? Like is it like with
Speaker 13: with this place that y'all went? Was there old growth
Speaker 13: forest in the area? Is it more so in that
Speaker 13: area than other areas? Is the areas where bigfoot does appear?
Speaker 13: Is it, you know, areas where there is a higher
Speaker 13: biodiversity where more endangered species of plants would exist versus others.
Speaker 13: And then is there a specific like I guess genus
Speaker 13: or order of type of plant life in terms of biodiversity,
Speaker 13: like more more moss or more like some sort of
Speaker 13: lichen or anything like that that that would be more
Speaker 13: prevalent in these areas. Like is there an association to
Speaker 13: all these different sightings? Is there a specific I don't know,
Speaker 13: set of variables that that keep popping up? And I'm
Speaker 13: and on more about the habitat the biodiversity of the
Speaker 13: habitat that the sitings were taking place.
Speaker 11: From my personal opinion, you know, some of the things
Speaker 11: that I did look for. And to answer your question
Speaker 11: about the old growth where we were at, No, like
Speaker 11: I mentioned, it looked like this area that we were
Speaker 11: at had been logged at one point, but we had
Speaker 11: a potential structure. Now I'm I'm just giving my opinion
Speaker 11: about the structure that I saw. It didn't even look
Speaker 11: big enough to house a bigfoot.
Speaker 7: In my personal opinion.
Speaker 11: What drew my attention more was those other stick structures
Speaker 11: that I was talking about. But we also have here
Speaker 11: in North Carolina, we have the Joyce Kilmer Forest that
Speaker 11: is an unlogged old growth forest area. It's got its
Speaker 11: a myriad of sightings as well.
Speaker 13: Of those old worlds.
Speaker 7: Yes, and then.
Speaker 11: We've also got the UII Forest National Park near North Carolina.
Speaker 11: It's also got its myriad of sidings. So I don't
Speaker 11: necessarily think it really matters where at in the woods
Speaker 11: that these things would want to live at. I mean
Speaker 11: to me, it would kind of if I had to
Speaker 11: logically think of it, it would come down to out do
Speaker 11: I like this house better than I like this house
Speaker 11: if it was you know, a person that was trying
Speaker 11: to look for somewhere to live. But you know, some
Speaker 11: of the things that I looked for being in an
Speaker 11: area that I'm certain had been logged at least in
Speaker 11: the last thirty years. Was I was looking for trees
Speaker 11: where the tops of them had been planted upside down,
Speaker 11: which would have come from a tree climber being halfway
Speaker 11: up the tree and cutting it in such a way
Speaker 11: that it speared the top of it into the ground.
Speaker 11: I was looking for things to be stacked up in
Speaker 11: a way and look around for skid steer marks or
Speaker 11: you know, track home marks and things like that, and
Speaker 11: claw marks on any kind of structure. Because I'm here
Speaker 11: to tell you firsthand, I've sat around with my buddies
Speaker 11: and we've got our twenty dollar bills on it. It's like,
Speaker 11: there's no way you can climb that tree and cut
Speaker 11: five chunks out of it and stack them perfectly next
Speaker 11: to each other. Then you go up there and you
Speaker 11: try to do that thing. So that was kind of
Speaker 11: what I went into this looking at looking for was
Speaker 11: common marks of a log a timber guy, or a
Speaker 11: log or a tree climber being out there messing around essentially,
Speaker 11: and I didn't see any of that. And then in
Speaker 11: regards to, you know, the mosses and things like that,
Speaker 11: that kind of just tends to lean in the direction
Speaker 11: of being a more moist area. Another example of that
Speaker 11: is when I or you're running around and you see
Speaker 11: sycamore trees.
Speaker 7: They love water.
Speaker 11: So even if you're in the middle of the desert
Speaker 11: and you see a sycamore tree, you know that its
Speaker 11: roots are tapped into.
Speaker 7: A bunch of water. So I wouldn't necessarily.
Speaker 11: Lend that to be an indicator of where a bigfoot
Speaker 11: will want to live, because again, these trees that like
Speaker 11: water can go deep into ground and find it where
Speaker 11: it wouldn't be accessible to somebody that is thirsty for water.
Speaker 11: And can get out of a creek or anything, if
Speaker 11: that makes sense. So, I currently don't think that anything
Speaker 11: that I've seen in any of the diversities that exist
Speaker 11: in the wilderness lend to a more suitable place than another.
Speaker 11: I think that would kind of lean more in the
Speaker 11: food department. Can we sustain ourselves here with food more
Speaker 11: than anything else, Because it currently seems like wherever you're
Speaker 11: at in the wilderness, it's got its sightings. It doesn't
Speaker 11: seem to lend to the idea that there's a more
Speaker 11: favorable environment than another in that regard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be pretty interesting actually to check that stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think if I started seeing.
Speaker 4: That popping up, well, give me a little bit more
Speaker 4: greadings to my belief in it.
Speaker 2: Oh No, that's because.
Speaker 4: I do think some of these things do have certain
Speaker 4: reasons why he shows up, if he does exist. I
Speaker 4: do think some of the areas might have more capabilities
Speaker 4: of paranormal effects.
Speaker 2: Going on.
Speaker 4: That I guess at that point you have to start,
Speaker 4: like I guess, I'm looking at it as like I
Speaker 4: don't know, something that just comes into reality and leaves
Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm not too st what to think
Speaker 4: about Bigfoot at the the truth.
Speaker 11: This was before my involvement in the organization, But Douglas
Speaker 11: met with somebody who's got a property here in Franklin
Speaker 11: and they live I'm not sure where their house is
Speaker 11: located in relation to this, but they're literally next to
Speaker 11: a ridge line in a valley. And I'm going to
Speaker 11: kind of just give this over to Doug because he
Speaker 11: met with the person. But they had like damage to property,
Speaker 11: things thrown at them, activity in the valley as opposed
Speaker 11: to the ridge line. So you know, Doug, if you
Speaker 11: want to kind of explain that in better detail.
Speaker 10: That's pretty much all of it right there.
Speaker 12: And what's kind of coincidental about it is about fifteen
Speaker 12: minutes ago he just text messaged me to find out
Speaker 12: what's going on.
Speaker 10: He wants to meet up.
Speaker 12: What he wants us to do is to come out
Speaker 12: there and bring some of our equipment so if we
Speaker 12: can get any recordings from it. He is getting a
Speaker 12: lot of orbs up through the ridge line, and the
Speaker 12: Appalachian Trail kind of comes up through there, but they've
Speaker 12: got orbs that are coming through. After they see the orbs,
Speaker 12: they start getting rocks thrown at their house. And they
Speaker 12: on the backside, they've got a port that they'll go
Speaker 12: out there. He's very spiritual into the Indian meditation with hothouses,
Speaker 12: and he will play certain types of spiritual music and
Speaker 12: he's finding it when he's playing that type of music
Speaker 12: is when they seem to get the most activity. They've
Speaker 12: had the house side of the house, slap rocks thrown
Speaker 12: on it, the howls in the middle of the night,
Speaker 12: and the orbs that are coming through. So we need
Speaker 12: to get out there and see what we can.
Speaker 7: Start documenting large rocks too.
Speaker 11: I'd like to add, like things that are you know,
Speaker 11: not pebbles, but large rocks, baseball or bigger.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I've been hearing a lot about this orbs
Speaker 2: stuff in Bigfoot.
Speaker 4: That's uh, that's that's making me think that has something
Speaker 4: to do with the area.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a it's a big thing. It's a big
Speaker 3: thing because that's where a lot of it seems like that.
Speaker 3: The understanding is that every time Bigfoot is seen or nearby, uh,
Speaker 3: look for look in the sky because there would be
Speaker 3: an orbs somewhere nearby. And the gentlemen that was talking
Speaker 3: about the water earlier, you know, that's funny because I
Speaker 3: always talk about I always say it, these gods, these
Speaker 3: aliens do these these things with this technology or this
Speaker 3: information or whatever it is. They're coming from the waters.
Speaker 3: It seems like the water is the most essential thing
Speaker 3: for everything that happened on this planet.
Speaker 9: Just not just to you know, sustained.
Speaker 3: Life, but you know where you know, where people are
Speaker 3: mostly or where these individuals are mostly hiding at. They
Speaker 3: might not be near it like that, but they're definitely
Speaker 3: in traveling distance where they can go there and get
Speaker 3: some and come back and go somewhere else, you know,
Speaker 3: just like they do in most you know, other countries.
Speaker 3: You know, the well is not you know, always in
Speaker 3: the in the in one area, it's a mile away.
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's interesting even like in aspect as the light
Speaker 4: goes to travel into your eyeball, the first thing it
Speaker 4: hits is really a corner. And so even the birth
Speaker 4: of the image in your eye and your head is
Speaker 4: probably too a part of the reflections and ship side
Speaker 4: your corny in the water, like you just looking at
Speaker 4: the weird sense like that to throw it off.
Speaker 7: But.
Speaker 11: Hey, Brooke, did you guys ever go through the footage
Speaker 11: that Marian got in her thermal camera because we did have.
Speaker 11: So it started off with people seeing a light that
Speaker 11: we thought might have been eyes, but if you moved
Speaker 11: it moved around, you could see that it was actually,
Speaker 11: you know, easily a headlighter at lantern. But that caused
Speaker 11: h Brook and Marion to get their thermal camera out
Speaker 11: and start looking and not what we thought we wanted
Speaker 11: to look at, but off to the side, Uh, they
Speaker 11: were able to see and an object at the time
Speaker 11: we couldn't. It was a thermal camera, I'm pretty sure,
Speaker 11: and so you couldn't tell what it was initially.
Speaker 7: But Brooke, did you guys go through that footage yet?
Speaker 1: I don't know if she has or not, but I
Speaker 1: know when I got my hands on it and I
Speaker 1: was able to see, I could see something moving. And
Speaker 1: again to kind of just give some context as to
Speaker 1: what we were looking at, this was behind our camp.
Speaker 1: There was a bridgelne that was kind of over to
Speaker 1: the left and where we had seen the light and
Speaker 1: where we were ultimately looking with the thermal was on
Speaker 1: where there was no longer a ridge. It kind of
Speaker 1: like led to the road and there were some rhododendrons
Speaker 1: and that's the one kind of drawback I think from
Speaker 1: thermal is you can't use it if you're in a
Speaker 1: car because the temperature of the window will stop it.
Speaker 1: So same thing kind of with tree foliage. If you
Speaker 1: have a lot of bushes and things, it kind of
Speaker 1: provides almost a camouflage for whatever animal is back there.
Speaker 1: But I could see something moving at the top of
Speaker 1: these rhododendron bushes, probably ten twelve feet up. I could
Speaker 1: see the heat signature passing behind it. So I haven't
Speaker 1: gotten any of the copies from that because we've been
Speaker 1: running ever since, probably like we've been back. But I
Speaker 1: will reach out and see if she can send over
Speaker 1: that footage because I grabbed at one point and I
Speaker 1: was like, I got to see.
Speaker 11: This, and unfortunately, because this was pretty late into the night,
Speaker 11: it was and we're like, we're like easily fifty feet
Speaker 11: from the campfires. So when you know Mary and who
Speaker 11: saw it first pointed in whatever direction as to what
Speaker 11: she was seeing. I'm tall and I thought she was
Speaker 11: pointing over here. So she hands it to me, and
Speaker 11: I personally couldn't find anything, and there were some others
Speaker 11: that also couldn't see anything as well. But I think
Speaker 11: broke you said, you saw it, Marian saw it. I
Speaker 11: think there were a couple of three others that were
Speaker 11: able to actually see something and see the same thing.
Speaker 11: But unfortunately, even though I tried, I just was, like
Speaker 11: I said, it was dark. I'm looking, but I'm probably
Speaker 11: looking in the wrong direction. I can't tell exactly where
Speaker 11: I'm just to look, but I know that the camera
Speaker 11: was recording, and that's I was. I was curious to
Speaker 11: see that footager and see what you guys thought from it.
Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait to hear you know, if you've
Speaker 1: got any sort of audio encounters that cooberates the data
Speaker 1: that we heard. And this is a little bit more
Speaker 1: on the spiritual side, but there was a woman who
Speaker 1: I would consider a sensitive who was on the trip
Speaker 1: with us, and I won't say her name on here,
Speaker 1: but I thank you guys both know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: She did reach out to me after the camp out
Speaker 1: with some really great information, but she did confirm that
Speaker 1: when she asked her spirit guides that she said that
Speaker 1: we were being watched by a big foot on that
Speaker 1: camp out.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, well you you were, you were there with yeah, right, exactly.
Speaker 2: If he doesn't shut the fuck up, I want to
Speaker 2: go to sleep.
Speaker 11: But you had the dowsing rods and you also had
Speaker 11: an app. I'm not I never did get and if
Speaker 11: you told me I didn't, I didn't hear. But what
Speaker 11: that app was, do you have you the dowsing rods
Speaker 11: and the app that you were doing things with and
Speaker 11: you got a lot from that as well?
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm I did, and it was actually so get this.
Speaker 1: So I was running it's called Ghost Too, and it's
Speaker 1: kind of like an on the Ghost spirit Box and
Speaker 1: we had used it out on the trail and everything,
Speaker 1: and so we were around the campfire and this one
Speaker 1: guy he was like, oh, run it, run it while
Speaker 1: we're sitting here, because everybody wanted to kind of debunk it,
Speaker 1: to kind of prove like that it's just full of
Speaker 1: crap and that the results aren't real. Because I was
Speaker 1: getting responses on the trail right from the dowsing Rods
Speaker 1: and the spirit Box in tandem. There were several times
Speaker 1: I asked questions. I was getting responses from both, and
Speaker 1: so I was like running it, and he's right. It
Speaker 1: was late, I was going to head to bed. I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the time and I'm like, oh gosh, I've
Speaker 1: got to go to bed. We have a really long
Speaker 1: drive where it was our last night there, and I'm
Speaker 1: walking and I forgot that I still had it up
Speaker 1: on my phone and I'm holding my phone and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I'm almost to my tent and it
Speaker 1: goes come inside and I was like, oh hello, So
Speaker 1: I turned around. I did I went back to the
Speaker 1: fire and I was like, okay, this guys. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. And then that's when I went to
Speaker 1: go back and we saw the lights and then the
Speaker 1: other stuff happened. And she even said about that experience
Speaker 1: that her spirit guides told her that it wasn't something
Speaker 1: to scare me, that they were like comforting me and
Speaker 1: telling me to come and say that I was okay,
Speaker 1: that I was safe and protected. So she said, like
Speaker 1: not to take it as a bad thing, that it
Speaker 1: was actually like a positive.
Speaker 2: Being as well. Yeah, so yeah, go ahead, go ahehead.
Speaker 13: Has anyone looked at the antipodal positioning of some of
Speaker 13: these sightings, what.
Speaker 2: Does that mean?
Speaker 13: Like, for instance, go ahead, I.
Speaker 7: Was gonna say that is that it's new to me.
Speaker 13: No, So like say, for instance, you're located in Roswell
Speaker 13: New Mexico, and you adhere to the the Earth is
Speaker 13: a globe. If you were to put a pin right
Speaker 13: through Roswell, New Mexico, where would the pin come out
Speaker 13: on the other side of the globe?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 13: And so some there is a theory saying that there
Speaker 13: that suggests that if there is activity like dissociation or
Speaker 13: anti magnetic or some sort of something would lead to
Speaker 13: opening a portal, that it would have the equal an
Speaker 13: opposite effect. So if something's going like, for instance, something's
Speaker 13: going on insern, what's the opposite end of cern? And
Speaker 13: is something happening at that same moment that Stern is
Speaker 13: firing up that's collider? Is something happening on the other
Speaker 13: side of the globe at that same.
Speaker 9: Time, something like Ley lines you're almost.
Speaker 13: Talking about more kind of but more of like a
Speaker 13: direct opposite effect, like a magnet.
Speaker 3: I gotcha, magnet the opposite of what's happening at one place?
Speaker 9: What's the opposite effect? Basically?
Speaker 13: I got you, Like, if it's intaking, is it out
Speaker 13: taking somewhere else?
Speaker 11: That would be something that I have a hard time
Speaker 11: comprehending without probably a long in depth conversation about it,
Speaker 11: because in the geometry of doing trees and rigging and
Speaker 11: tree felling and things like that. The point at an
Speaker 11: angle and degree at which you start things when you're dealing,
Speaker 11: when you're you know, starting it here. But the object
Speaker 11: that we're manipulating is so large it can change unbelievably
Speaker 11: with just ten feet in difference of height, you know,
Speaker 11: in the case of a tree felling. So that's what
Speaker 11: my knowledge is and where my mind goes to. So
Speaker 11: I have not heard of what you're talking about, but
Speaker 11: I am definitely interested in so. And the reason I
Speaker 11: bring that up is because you say, put a pin
Speaker 11: in rosbelt, New Mexico, where is it going to come
Speaker 11: out on the other side? I'm in my head is
Speaker 11: immediately like, well, was it a tend of the degree to.
Speaker 7: The left or the right or upside down or you
Speaker 7: know what I mean?
Speaker 13: So that matters, And it matters also the positioning of
Speaker 13: the spin and the rotation and whether you're what is
Speaker 13: it the equinoxes and stuff like that, all that matters.
Speaker 11: Yeah, So my mind goes straight to the trees and
Speaker 11: how that would affect it, and and it is a
Speaker 11: big effect when it comes trees. So I would I
Speaker 11: would definitely be interested to know more about exactly what
Speaker 11: you're talking about.
Speaker 7: Because it's not something I've heard of yet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, again, that would even have to do with like,
Speaker 4: I do think some of these locations might be important
Speaker 4: something to that effect. Uh, is there any other questions?
Speaker 4: Anybody else said?
Speaker 2: No, what do you have a question? Go for it?
Speaker 6: So earlier we established that, you know, if you turn
Speaker 6: the corner and there's bigfoot, what are you going to do?
Speaker 6: We established that you're gonna need the body right to
Speaker 6: prove the existence of it.
Speaker 9: Who do you report that to?
Speaker 6: Like? Do we have someone that deals with that? Like
Speaker 6: And a lot of people are relying on like when
Speaker 6: they need to know if something's true or not, like UFOs,
Speaker 6: they need the government to come out and say, oh
Speaker 6: this is real, Like who would deal? How would that
Speaker 6: go down? How do you think that that would play out?
Speaker 3: I tell you, put that on TikTok and everybody will
Speaker 3: start coming at your location and you ain't about reporting
Speaker 3: to nobody, Like yo, I got I got big foot
Speaker 3: right here, y'all's location. I'm dropping it in. I'll be
Speaker 3: here for the next three and a half hours. I
Speaker 3: guarantee them. Helicopters would be there before any motherfucking on
Speaker 3: the on the streets.
Speaker 2: Will.
Speaker 11: I think it would go over so bad in every way,
Speaker 11: shape and form.
Speaker 2: Government.
Speaker 11: Yeah, every government organization from every country, all the n
Speaker 11: g os that that are funded.
Speaker 9: If the Russians or the Chinese are here, that'll be
Speaker 9: right there.
Speaker 10: What they should too.
Speaker 11: They're gonna reveal all of their military secret technology right
Speaker 11: then and there, because they're gonna show up way faster
Speaker 11: than what we currently know to be talking.
Speaker 9: Yeah, laid out all on the table right right there.
Speaker 3: I just let it all on the table, all from
Speaker 3: one TikTok, right from one TikTok.
Speaker 4: You know, TikTok hasn't even token as it got yet
Speaker 4: showing up Oh yeah, yeah, before.
Speaker 3: You get your first heart that's already above with the
Speaker 3: high brings on.
Speaker 11: I don't I don't spend a lot of time thinking
Speaker 11: about who do I go to or what would I do?
Speaker 11: Because here's the thing. The internet's the Internet, and you
Speaker 11: can say anything, and it's got a global reach at
Speaker 11: this point in modern technology. So of course, if we
Speaker 11: find a bigfoot and we get it studied and we
Speaker 11: get it confirmed that's bigfoot, there's going to be the
Speaker 11: equal and opposite amount of people that are like, that's
Speaker 11: a government conspiracy, we're covering this up and that and
Speaker 11: yeehaw whatever. So I think those people are always going
Speaker 11: to exist, and I think it's just going to come
Speaker 11: down to just acknowledge that it's a population and getting
Speaker 11: a real number on it. Because as far as we know,
Speaker 11: if a bigfoot is found live, it is immediately going
Speaker 11: to be classified as an endangered species and become protected
Speaker 11: until they discover if it's in decline or not in decline.
Speaker 11: Then you know it's going to go from there. So
Speaker 11: there's going to be so much that even happens, and then.
Speaker 7: You know, I don't know, I don't even know where
Speaker 7: it would go from there.
Speaker 11: But yeah, if just one bigfoot is found initially, even
Speaker 11: if there's five of them, they're going to be like,
Speaker 11: oh my god, this is a brand new thing. It's
Speaker 11: automatically an endangered species. So then they're going to spend
Speaker 11: the next you know, however long it takes figuring out
Speaker 11: if it is the only five that exists or if
Speaker 11: there's a healthy, normal population, and then that's gonna you know,
Speaker 11: change the narrative or directive of how everything's going to
Speaker 11: go from there, but the government will definitely be involved
Speaker 11: in the entire process and probably the logging probably the
Speaker 11: logging industry too.
Speaker 13: If I have to be honest with you saying that,
Speaker 13: so many Hollywood movies come to mind. If that were me,
Speaker 13: I wouldn't tell anybody. I'd let them go live their
Speaker 13: life how they need to be.
Speaker 9: But that's yo.
Speaker 2: You say that, No, I that's that.
Speaker 13: But I mean it's one of those things. It's like, man,
Speaker 13: everybody's out here trying to survive. I don't know, just
Speaker 13: based on Hollywood movies what the government does to things
Speaker 13: that are rare.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just you just put something in my head.
Speaker 3: You remember that movie Village about those people who lived
Speaker 3: in the woods, and that's yeah, So.
Speaker 7: Just think.
Speaker 3: I wonder if if you know, because you know that's
Speaker 3: federal land, do they have that set for because of Bigfoot?
Speaker 3: Because they don't want people to be on there, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like people can't cross.
Speaker 9: Those those those those places.
Speaker 3: You go in there, that's a federal crime. That's a
Speaker 3: felony just for accidentally going into it.
Speaker 13: I believe somebody posted a I don't know, like a
Speaker 13: factoid or something that about what is it like ninety
Speaker 13: percent of all National forests were sacred Native American places,
Speaker 13: So what happened? I'm sure that they were sacred for
Speaker 13: a reason, and so if they came under the purview
Speaker 13: of the National Park System, I mean that almost seems
Speaker 13: I don't know, just very coincidental.
Speaker 9: To me, and a lot of abductions.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Are you familiar with Teddy Roosevelt and the conspiracy
Speaker 1: that lies there with Bigfoot and the National Park?
Speaker 13: Yes, yes, yes, yes, that's kind of what I was like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's why I brought up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as I think last time Sarah was on, she
Speaker 1: knew the name of it, and you you rotted it
Speaker 1: off with Vyant thor we keep coming back to that.
Speaker 4: Oh god, that guy with the six fingers right, probably yeah,
Speaker 4: to get an extra finger too.
Speaker 1: But the Eisenhower Tree where they could abduct a certain.
Speaker 6: Amount of the GREYATA treaty there it is, Yeah, and
Speaker 6: in exchange for technology, Yeah, nothing, go ahead.
Speaker 3: I was just saying that the technology came from the seas.
Speaker 11: One thing I did want to ask is has anybody
Speaker 11: in here had a class A sighting or like, has
Speaker 11: anybody had any I want to know what got y'all
Speaker 11: interested in it because for me, it's it's super super simple.
Speaker 11: I'm the house arborist for the for the organization, and
Speaker 11: Doug and I are are best friends, and he me
Speaker 11: to come along and just apply my knowledge to it.
Speaker 11: And I had never even in my life given Bigfoot
Speaker 11: or other cryptids thought. But you know, as as time
Speaker 11: has gone on since I've been involved, I've become more interested.
Speaker 11: But what got everybody else involved in this?
Speaker 4: I guess for me, I mean just growing up, I've
Speaker 4: had always believed in Bigfoot and the paranormal.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: I guess for me, I just I find it interesting.
Speaker 4: I do think there's something up with it, and I
Speaker 4: for me, again, I always push on it's the area,
Speaker 4: but I do think it's probably like a side effect
Speaker 4: to certain things going on. So that's why I like
Speaker 4: look at it more from like, I guess different angles.
Speaker 4: Anybody else I'll go next?
Speaker 13: Two reasons. Well, one, I love all things wildlife and
Speaker 13: all things outside. But one two things that sparked my
Speaker 13: interest was we were out trapped be key deer on
Speaker 13: the outer islands of the Florida Keys, where there is
Speaker 13: no you know, kind of urbanization or anything like that.
Speaker 13: Mosquitoes are probably the main population out there, and we
Speaker 13: set up trail cameras to kind of follow, you know,
Speaker 13: where some of these old paths are whatever, so we
Speaker 13: can drop someone and we're doing health assessment on the
Speaker 13: outer islands of the where the key dear were kind
Speaker 13: of swimming back and forth, and on one of the
Speaker 13: trail cameras there was something that walked right across. That's
Speaker 13: why I was asking about the trail cameras. And we
Speaker 13: had them set to motion right because it would be
Speaker 13: a while before we went back out there to check
Speaker 13: that the sim card and you know, check the batteries
Speaker 13: and all that stuff. So we had it on motion
Speaker 13: and so it detected the motion and then it and
Speaker 13: we had it set to video whenever it detected motion,
Speaker 13: and so it filmed something kind of inspecting the dropnet
Speaker 13: because we're using drop nets, and our dropnets were about
Speaker 13: seven eight feet tall. I knew was as tall as
Speaker 13: the drop net, and so it kind of it looked
Speaker 13: like it looked like a person wearing a gilly suit
Speaker 13: bottom line and freak me out, because sometimes we were
Speaker 13: out there late at night or all night waiting for
Speaker 13: deer to come under the net. Drop, you know, and
Speaker 13: do our little health assessment and leave, and I'm thinking
Speaker 13: this thing is out here with us, you know, like
Speaker 13: what what just happened? And so that that sparked my
Speaker 13: curiosity first and foremost. And then the second one was
Speaker 13: I was sitting in a meeting and we were talking
Speaker 13: about the Ivory build woodpecker, and somebody made a joke
Speaker 13: and said, there are there's more evidence of Bigfoot than
Speaker 13: there is of the Ivory build woodpecker. Why aren't we
Speaker 13: spending more money on that? And I thought that was
Speaker 13: a legitimate question. And so those two things.
Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, that's a definitely legitimate question.
Speaker 4: Okay, a gilly suit because I have even a Yeah,
Speaker 4: I entertained a lot of ideas about Bigfoot, and that's
Speaker 4: been one of them. That's military and gilly suits.
Speaker 1: What color was it? Was it a color camp.
Speaker 13: It so it was dark, and I would say that
Speaker 13: it was like brown green. That's why I said maybe
Speaker 13: it was a gilly suit. Now again, it's to me
Speaker 13: the way that it looked. I would have to look
Speaker 13: for it because I think I have them saved. It's
Speaker 13: just so old, the one, the height and the thickness
Speaker 13: of the height, and it just it seemed very ominous,
Speaker 13: just very not not normal safien, I guess you could say,
Speaker 13: and if somebody was out there, you know, because there's
Speaker 13: a lot of traffic going through there from Cuba and
Speaker 13: all that other stuff that we were halfway expecting something
Speaker 13: like that, but something like that just seemed kind of
Speaker 13: just out of the ordinary. And it's middle of summer,
Speaker 13: it's so damn hot there. Why are you even wearing that?
Speaker 10: Now?
Speaker 13: I could see protecting from mosquitoes and all that other stuff, absolutely,
Speaker 13: but something like that was just Yeah, it definitely gave
Speaker 13: us pomps.
Speaker 2: Just from the height. It's interesting. Yeah, nice. What about you, Burt.
Speaker 1: Oh? I would like to think I had a Class
Speaker 1: A setting. I'm on the fence about what I classified
Speaker 1: as whether I classified as Bigfoot or something else in
Speaker 1: the paranormal world, but I'm kind of leaning more towards Bigfoot.
Speaker 1: And that happened coming up on a year now in
Speaker 1: November and the Panhandle of Florida. But my basic interest
Speaker 1: of bigfoot started with my own grandmother having a sighting
Speaker 1: here in Florida turned out to be in the Panhandle.
Speaker 1: I found out that piece of information recently back in
Speaker 1: the late seventies early eighties, and yeah, so that kind
Speaker 1: of got me into did in the topic. And then
Speaker 1: I'm one of those people like Tyrone Soela Libra over there.
Speaker 1: I need to know the why and I need to
Speaker 1: get to the bottom of things, and I love looking
Speaker 1: into things more and not taking things at face value
Speaker 1: and you know, applying critical thinking to it. So then
Speaker 1: I went down the rabbit hole and that you guys
Speaker 1: at North Carolina Big.
Speaker 9: Food camp Out.
Speaker 11: I'm huge on the why as well. I completely understand
Speaker 11: the need for that. I you know, when it comes
Speaker 11: to let's just use my treservice. For example, I'm not
Speaker 11: just some guy running around with a chainsaw. If you're
Speaker 11: gonna have me do something, I could explain it down
Speaker 11: to a peer reviewed study on why this is the
Speaker 11: right call, because I have to know that.
Speaker 7: I can't.
Speaker 11: I don't like to just blindly make a decision. I
Speaker 11: want to know what I'm getting into and why I'm
Speaker 11: getting into it. And so I completely get that.
Speaker 3: So for me, it was just I've always I was
Speaker 3: always interested in Bigfoot from the from the video, the
Speaker 3: famous video, and then because of ancient history, I always
Speaker 3: wanted to know, you know, what the facts were, and
Speaker 3: then me being in the woods.
Speaker 9: I grew up in the country. I'm from Georgia, so
Speaker 9: we used to.
Speaker 3: Play, you know, in the woods all the time, you know,
Speaker 3: and I'm familiar with, you know, the noises, you know,
Speaker 3: the coyotes, you know different types of animals and stuff
Speaker 3: like that, and you know what to look for and
Speaker 3: all this other stuff. So there were times when I
Speaker 3: would hear things that just didn't never make sense. I
Speaker 3: know what a hawk sounds like from being in the woods.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I go out fishing sometimes, Like I leave at my
Speaker 3: house at two o'clock in the morning. You got to
Speaker 3: go into backwoods, and you sit in the backwoods from
Speaker 3: you know, three till you know till sunrising. You're hearing stuff,
Speaker 3: You're seeing movement, You're wondering what is going on. It's
Speaker 3: really quiet a lot. I don't really understand that when
Speaker 3: you're out there in nature by yourself without any electricity,
Speaker 3: I mean even lights.
Speaker 9: Lights create a sort of a noise. It creates that
Speaker 9: that noise that.
Speaker 3: You was talking about where I was mentioning about audacity,
Speaker 3: that background noise. You don't necessarily hear it per se,
Speaker 3: but it does intervene. That's why you can have your
Speaker 3: volume on your television a certain volume during the day,
Speaker 3: and then at night it has to be somewhere different
Speaker 3: because it's sound different to you that when you're in nature, it's.
Speaker 9: All of nature acoustics.
Speaker 3: It's nothing out there intervening with you, electronic wise.
Speaker 9: Nothing.
Speaker 3: I mean, I turn off my phone and everything, and
Speaker 3: it's different out there. And like I said, I would
Speaker 3: hear things, but I never got to see anything. And
Speaker 3: then I you know, I got into the ancient text.
Speaker 3: I mean the Chinese talk about it, that Japanese talk
Speaker 3: about it. I mean, every individual talks about these types
Speaker 3: of what we would describe as a bigfoot. And that's
Speaker 3: why I ask, you know, different species of different bigfoots,
Speaker 3: you know, racist or even kind of sort as would
Speaker 3: be away because the depictions would be different. You know,
Speaker 3: some of the depictions would be horns. But if you
Speaker 3: look at horns in the in the sense of symbolism,
Speaker 3: it was something that was powerful, something that was a godlike,
Speaker 3: something that was speaking through a different entity or something
Speaker 3: it had some kind of it was just a special
Speaker 3: individual with horns and that that's when it.
Speaker 9: Later on it turned into the evil thing with the
Speaker 9: devil of course, and.
Speaker 3: I was, you know, I've always read about these different
Speaker 3: species that we've had. Like I said, I've done discussion
Speaker 3: with Michael Kramer. I've read different books about different species
Speaker 3: of humans, and they say, what is the misconnection will
Speaker 3: be maybe just maybe out of coincidence, maybe it's Bigfoot.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's the missing connection between us. We don't know
Speaker 3: for sure because we don't have a DNA genetic makeup,
Speaker 3: and when that time comes, we will. But I also
Speaker 3: think about all the shit that happened back in the
Speaker 3: day when they found just like when Lisa were talking
Speaker 3: to Brooke was talking about the Native American grounds, their
Speaker 3: bones that these museums found of these what they call
Speaker 3: giants and so on, is for uh, they taking them
Speaker 3: and hiding them in museums.
Speaker 9: Could these be the bigfoots? We don't know.
Speaker 3: We don't know what these We don't know what an
Speaker 3: animal or species look like from their skeleton bones. That's
Speaker 3: an artist's depiction of what we think it looks like.
Speaker 3: We don't know for sure because we don't have the skin,
Speaker 3: we don't have the organs, we don't have the defer,
Speaker 3: we don't have anything we're just going off of what
Speaker 3: somebody said they seem you know, we don't know if
Speaker 3: it's a genetic mutation or whatnot. You know, somebody seeing
Speaker 3: something different from a you know, a human perspective that
Speaker 3: was lost on the island of something and seeing somebody
Speaker 3: with a tumor on the side of their face, they
Speaker 3: would be like, that's they wouldn't understand that, so they
Speaker 3: would depict it as such. So that's where for me
Speaker 3: it just came into the interest of knowing the why,
Speaker 3: the who, what, when, why is?
Speaker 9: And where is? You know, where did they come from?
Speaker 7: Where?
Speaker 3: And all this other stuff. You know, why is it
Speaker 3: so important for me? Why is it important for me?
Speaker 3: Some people have asked me that, And it's because of
Speaker 3: the simple fact that, you know, we've always been told
Speaker 3: that we can do things that is not normally in
Speaker 3: the realm of human needs or human nature, and if
Speaker 3: we can tap to our inner abilities, and Bigfoot is
Speaker 3: the missing link in that. I would like to know that, right,
Speaker 3: I would. I mean, I don't know about other people,
Speaker 3: but I would. So it just started from a little kid,
Speaker 3: you know, watching what was that show with Unsolved Mysteries
Speaker 3: when they had the famous video on there. That's what
Speaker 3: that's actually where I've seen it from. So yeah, that's
Speaker 3: that's where it started from me.
Speaker 6: I remember that episode, and I'm gonna play the skeptic here.
Speaker 6: It's a it's a complicated thing because I don't think
Speaker 6: that everyone on every continent has a Bigfoot story of
Speaker 6: some sort for no reason. I mean, there's obviously something
Speaker 6: to it, and I don't have any experience with bigfoot
Speaker 6: or anything like that, but I do know about the
Speaker 6: association between bigfoot and orbs, and I do have a
Speaker 6: situation with an orb, and I know that Tyrone does
Speaker 6: as well. So I mean, I just I think Bigfoot
Speaker 6: it's doing something with portals, y'all. And then when my
Speaker 6: logical mind hears that, I'm just like, nah, So I'm
Speaker 6: gonna I'm gonna play the hopeful skeptic. I want to
Speaker 6: believe and I think that there's something going on here,
Speaker 6: but I'm not quite sure what. But the why is
Speaker 6: gonna eat me alive.
Speaker 11: So yep, So you subscribe to the idea that Bigfoot
Speaker 11: is Well, when you say portals, do you think that
Speaker 11: they're just here but they can use portals or do
Speaker 11: you think that they're interdimensional things, because I've heard that.
Speaker 11: I've heard people subscribe to that theory before.
Speaker 6: Specifically, my current thinking is that it has something to
Speaker 6: do with like the telyric currents that Ricardo talks about
Speaker 6: a lot. Ricardo comes on the show quite a bit
Speaker 6: and he talks about te luric currents, which all of ore,
Speaker 6: all these sacred sites, Stonehenge and the Pyramids and everything,
Speaker 6: they're all on this grid, in the lay lines and
Speaker 6: the teluric currents, and it all works together and somehow
Speaker 6: a portal occurs or something like that. I don't know
Speaker 6: how it works, but I think that it's all connected
Speaker 6: in some way. That's that's my thinking behind it.
Speaker 3: Let me let me ask you some Jeremy, when you
Speaker 3: say portal, what is your idea of a portal? What
Speaker 3: would be your description of a portal or usage of
Speaker 3: a portal?
Speaker 11: Well, I guess there's there's the two sides of it,
Speaker 11: would be interdimensional or just here on Earth where you've
Speaker 11: got a I don't know, an object in your hand
Speaker 11: that you can press a button and it's going to
Speaker 11: get me from Franklin, North Carolina all the way to
Speaker 11: your front door. So I can make it for dinner
Speaker 11: on or am I going to go from this dimension
Speaker 11: to another dimension from however that technology comes up. So
Speaker 11: for me, at portal could could could be anything. But
Speaker 11: if you're if you're going from one place to another
Speaker 11: and defying all known methods of travel to get there,
Speaker 11: I would consider that a portal basically because.
Speaker 9: One of my other expertise is the Bible. I studied
Speaker 9: the Bible like is my hand back of my hand?
Speaker 3: Okay, there's a couple of verses in here that actually
Speaker 3: makes me wonder and this is why I asked you
Speaker 3: about a portal. So Luke, chapter twenty four, thirty thirty one,
Speaker 3: thirty through thirty one, it says at Amos when he
Speaker 3: breaks bread, their eyes were open and then he vanished
Speaker 3: from their sight.
Speaker 9: That's something that would be a bigfoot.
Speaker 3: Then you have Genesis eighteen to nineteen three men interpreted
Speaker 3: as angels of course, or the Lord himself and two
Speaker 3: angels compaired to Abraham eat with him and then go
Speaker 3: to Sodom. Their arrival and departure seems supernatural. That's another one,
Speaker 3: And and there's and there's there's a lot of them.
Speaker 3: You got the apocrypha that talks about the angel Raphael
Speaker 3: travels disguise as a man, then later reveals hisself as
Speaker 3: an angelic identity. I mean, with that angelic angelic identity,
Speaker 3: could it be a bigfoot that we know of today?
Speaker 9: Who knows? I don't know, you know, you never know.
Speaker 9: But my point is that it's the ancient text.
Speaker 3: Even the Bible talks about these things where you see
Speaker 3: something in one moment and then boom, it's gone. You know,
Speaker 3: we we use the word bigfoot because that's our modern
Speaker 3: interpretation of what we see that's something other than us,
Speaker 3: something that's covered in hair.
Speaker 9: Well, what is is it really hair?
Speaker 3: Could it be what you described as what a gilly
Speaker 3: suit that would be described as a hair literally interpretation
Speaker 3: and depictions and you know, drawing something out that a
Speaker 3: gilly suit would look like a hairy person, but it's
Speaker 3: not hair.
Speaker 11: All well just uh And I would like to say,
Speaker 11: I don't know if you can see it on camera,
Speaker 11: but there's Luke twenty three thirty four tattooed on my hand.
Speaker 11: So that I'm a Christian as well. And you know,
Speaker 11: one thing that I find really really interesting is when
Speaker 11: it comes to imaging of the space planets or stars
Speaker 11: or whatever, they see, and it comes real dang close
Speaker 11: to what they call biblically accurate angels, which in the
Speaker 11: Bible angels are not the pretty white robe wings and
Speaker 11: long wispy hair that the people hang up on their
Speaker 11: wall and everything they're terrifying to look at. And so yes,
Speaker 11: I completely understand what you're saying and you're getting to
Speaker 11: do in that regard.
Speaker 9: And that background noise you got with them can sound.
Speaker 10: That too.
Speaker 2: Early.
Speaker 4: Uh, I guess we could probably wrap it up right
Speaker 4: around now, guys online, Was there anything else that you,
Speaker 4: guys Jeremy Douglas wanted to head or say or anything
Speaker 4: before we wrap it up?
Speaker 10: Yeah, Tray Tray has probably got something to say.
Speaker 11: Well, I just uh for for the people watching or
Speaker 11: listening center for Wilderness Cryptostudies dot org. If you've got
Speaker 11: a sighting, get on there. We don't care where you're from,
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Speaker 11: We keep all of that anonymous.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 11: And if you are also somebody that has a property
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Speaker 11: kind of collect some data and further the research, get
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Speaker 11: and if you want us on your property the collect data,
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Speaker 7: Get a hold of us, let us know where you're at.
Speaker 11: But other than that, thank you very much Nick for
Speaker 11: hosting us and letting us be here. Thank you for
Speaker 11: doctor Stamy getting us all connected together. And it's a
Speaker 11: pleasure to meet all of you guys.
Speaker 2: That was awesome. Thank you, and guys get that event too.
Speaker 7: Say that again.
Speaker 2: You guys are going to be at that event and
Speaker 2: Franklin right correct, yes, so yeah, people listening they will
Speaker 2: be there as well, so I check it out. They'll
Speaker 2: be there. I'll be there, Doctor John Stamy will be there,
Speaker 2: and a bunch.
Speaker 4: Of other So yeah, thank you both. I really appreciate
Speaker 4: you guys coming on. Of course, Douglas, is there anything that
Speaker 4: you wanted to add?
Speaker 10: The PR guy he's.
Speaker 2: Was it gonna leave you?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 10: No, I'm good.
Speaker 4: All right, before we wrap it up, I let everybody
Speaker 4: plug this stuff again real quick. Lisa, we missed you
Speaker 4: at the beginning, so come back to you what is
Speaker 4: going on?
Speaker 2: Will?
Speaker 13: Thank you for making it, thank you, thank you for
Speaker 13: inviting me. I really really love this. I'm really regretting
Speaker 13: that I was late to hear all of the equipment lists,
Speaker 13: but I thought that was a great presentation. Jeremy Douglas.
Speaker 13: I look forward to hearing more of your findings and
Speaker 13: thank you very much for sharing all the youve done
Speaker 13: for the efforts. In terms of me, you can find
Speaker 13: me on Twitter Solese Lisa for a cult research intat to.
Speaker 4: Work checks out listen. Thank you very much for making it, Lisa.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it, and we got Brooke what is going on?
Speaker 7: Brooke?
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me from being here. This is
Speaker 1: so crazy how the universe works out, and it's such
Speaker 1: a small world. So great seeing you guys again and
Speaker 1: getting to relive some of those tales and hear it
Speaker 1: from you know, your perspective as well. So thank you
Speaker 1: again for having me and this was a great conversation.
Speaker 1: You can find me wherever you get your podcasts at
Speaker 1: Dark Florida Podcast on Instagram at Dark Florida Podcast.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, yeah, And that was awesome how this
Speaker 4: worked out like that. It was crazy when you were like, yeah,
Speaker 4: what was it? What the fuck? A small world makes sense?
Speaker 4: Though you were in North Carolina recently, so real quick
Speaker 4: before before I let you plug, Tyrone, I just do
Speaker 4: want to remind people that, yes, October fourth, at the
Speaker 4: big Foot Comic Con the Factory at ten twenty four
Speaker 4: Georgia Road in Franklin, North Carolina. These guys will be
Speaker 4: there and I will be there as well. In Doctor
Speaker 4: John Steamy and the Eighteenth we will be at the
Speaker 4: Forts Topical Lodge fifty six in Florida, and Brook will
Speaker 4: be speaking and the Occult Rejects will have a book
Speaker 4: as well. So yes, definitely gonna check that stuff out.
Speaker 4: And Tyrone, please let everybody know what's going on with you.
Speaker 3: All right, once again, thank you for having me. I
Speaker 3: appreciate it. You gentlemen were awesome. I love the information.
Speaker 3: Everything you can find on me is on my website
Speaker 3: Rebirth at the word dot com. And I do talk
Speaker 3: about Bigfoot in my book, Journey through the Origins of
Speaker 3: History and a little relationship with his relationship with Thank
Speaker 3: you to so I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Oh, thank you dude. I appreciate you coming
Speaker 2: on with.
Speaker 11: That Nick, I would like to add for anybody that's traveling,
Speaker 11: for anybody that's traveling to the event that's going to
Speaker 11: use the GPS, it will not come up as d factory.
Speaker 11: It's the fund factory. Otherwise you will it won't even
Speaker 11: it won't even pop up. So the fun Factory Franklin,
Speaker 11: North Carolina is what is what is needed to be
Speaker 11: Googled or apps or whatever you use them.
Speaker 4: Best of thank you. I'm have to change that then,
Speaker 4: all right, Sarah, what is all o?
Speaker 2: Way?
Speaker 6: This has been so much fun. Like I said, I
Speaker 6: want to believe, and this has given me so many
Speaker 6: different points to consider to try and you know, piece
Speaker 6: this puzzle together and I always like to be able
Speaker 6: to do that with other like minded people. And I
Speaker 6: just want to thank you for sharing. I think you
Speaker 6: did a great job. And as far as me, you
Speaker 6: can find me at x Sahara Cosmos. Also, you can
Speaker 6: follow our podcast page on ex Universe Unveiled and we
Speaker 6: also have YouTube Spotify all that good stuff. And I
Speaker 6: also want to plug the Institute for Natural Philosophy dot org.
Speaker 6: You can go there, check out our website, read our
Speaker 6: magazine for free, so be sure to check that out.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, thank you very much.
Speaker 4: And uh yeah, headlet's giant h you send them some
Speaker 4: stories and I'll send you some stickers.
Speaker 2: There you go. We gotta be left.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, that was everybody right, I got everybody guess
Speaker 4: all right, thank you.
Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate it. That all you just made it
Speaker 2: on tonight. That was awesome.
Speaker 4: It was great getting to meet you guys before I
Speaker 4: actually physically meet you. So and you guys got some
Speaker 4: really some stuff to tell, so I really appreciate it.
Speaker 4: This is a really good episode on Bigfoot.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it. And uh yeah, it wasn't live, so
Speaker 4: I have to thank those people or anything. So yeah,
Speaker 4: that's the end of another pull reachect. Until the next one,
Speaker 4: everybody be well, you know,