WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:04.839 You see somethings going to happen? 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.599 What? What's gonna happen? 3 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:17.199 What all. 4 00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:29.399 This episode we got? We got a couple of guests 5 00:00:29.399 --> 00:00:32.079 with us. We got doctor John Steamy, we got Jeremy, 6 00:00:32.079 --> 00:00:34.200 and we've got Douglas and we will get to them 7 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:37.600 after I'm done introducing all the other rejects that I hear. 8 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:41.119 And to start off first, we got Broke. What is 9 00:00:41.159 --> 00:00:43.039 going on? Broke? How will you? Hi? 10 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:45.560 Thank you so much for having me tonight. I'm excited 11 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:49.359 to get into this conversation. You can find me wherever 12 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:52.079 you get your podcast at Dark Florida Podcast and on 13 00:00:52.159 --> 00:00:53.960 Instagram at Dark Floord. 14 00:00:53.759 --> 00:00:58.359 Podcast and real quick, please promote that speaking of it, 15 00:00:58.560 --> 00:00:59.320 did you have please? 16 00:00:59.679 --> 00:01:03.119 Oh that's right. On October eighteenth, I will be down 17 00:01:03.159 --> 00:01:07.079 in Fort Myers at Charlie's Beyond Belief XFO. I will 18 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:11.079 be speaking about Bigfoot, the paranormal and everything in between. 19 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:13.079 So if you're in the area, please come out. The 20 00:01:13.079 --> 00:01:15.640 Occult Rejects will also have a booth there and it 21 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:17.040 is going to be a really good time. 22 00:01:17.840 --> 00:01:19.879 Hell yeah, it's gonna be awesome, so definitely come down 23 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:22.359 and get way with us. Check us out at Charlie's 24 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:24.640 Beyond Belief, and of course since that it's out of 25 00:01:24.680 --> 00:01:27.480 Masonic Lodge, we had to get booth thirty three, so 26 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:30.120 and we got broken next to us at booth thirty two. 27 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:34.159 So very good, very good. So thank you very much, Mok. 28 00:01:34.159 --> 00:01:36.760 I appreciate you making it and we got the Headless Giant. 29 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:37.400 What was going on, sir? 30 00:01:37.480 --> 00:01:38.879 How are you hi? 31 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:41.319 You doing? I'm the Headless Giant. You can find me 32 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:45.359 on Twitter at the Headless Giant and also on YouTube 33 00:01:45.480 --> 00:01:47.799 Headless Giant. And if you have any sort of weird 34 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:53.040 paranormal stories or dreams or any sort of occult practices 35 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:55.159 that you may have engaged in that you want to 36 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:57.120 send to me so that I can read them on 37 00:01:57.159 --> 00:02:01.599 the air. My email address is the Helpless Giant podcast 38 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:04.799 at gmail dot com and I can't wait to read them. 39 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:07.200 And Nick is my cost. If you send it to 40 00:02:07.319 --> 00:02:10.680 us and include your address, we can get some stickers 41 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:13.080 out to you. And also my artwork is going to 42 00:02:13.120 --> 00:02:17.400 be on display at nick Booth. Just got that in 43 00:02:17.439 --> 00:02:18.439 the mail, so. 44 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:22.599 Hel check it out. Definitely definitely show up. 45 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:24.120 So thank you, no. 46 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:26.479 Thank you for thank you for coming on Heillis and 47 00:02:26.520 --> 00:02:29.319 definitely send out send an email to him and leave 48 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:31.039 your address and I will send you out a free 49 00:02:31.080 --> 00:02:34.120 pack of a cult reject stickers. Thank you very much, sir, 50 00:02:34.479 --> 00:02:35.919 And we got so with us tonight. 51 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:37.280 What is going on? How are you go? 52 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:41.000 Hey, hey, thanks so much for having me. It's good 53 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:42.960 to be here in the House of the Lord again. 54 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:46.719 Anytime we can all sit down and share some wisdom, 55 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:50.080 that's a good day. So I am Sarah. I'm the 56 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:53.800 director of public relations for the Institute for Natural Philosophy 57 00:02:54.400 --> 00:02:57.479 as well as the co host for Universe Unveiled podcast 58 00:02:57.639 --> 00:03:00.360 and you can find me at Sahara cosmos X. 59 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:03.639 List to that she's making moves. She's been promoted since 60 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:07.479 the last time she was on I'll uh listen. 61 00:03:07.759 --> 00:03:09.960 Thank you very much. Thank you very much for making it. 62 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:10.840 I appreciate you. 63 00:03:11.319 --> 00:03:13.800 And for the listeners who may not know who who 64 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:16.000 she is or that show is yet, please go check 65 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:19.560 out that show. They have awesome guests on. I was 66 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:21.439 one of them, so you already know what time it is. 67 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:25.520 Go check it out. And we got Tyrone, my man. 68 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:26.199 What is going on? 69 00:03:26.240 --> 00:03:28.240 So please let everybody know what's up with you and 70 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:29.919 where they can find all your amazing stuff. 71 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:33.280 What's going on. Everybody, appreciate it. Thank you for letting 72 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:36.840 me be here. I'm glad to meet everybody here. Everything 73 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:38.960 you can find on me is on my website, Rebirth 74 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:40.919 at theWord dot com, and you can give my best 75 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:45.719 seller book from Amazon, Journey through the Origins of History appreciated. 76 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:46.000 Nick. 77 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:49.319 Yeah, of course, thank you very much for joining us. 78 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:53.199 And finally, to the guests, I know you guys have 79 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:55.000 probably heard me go on about these events that the 80 00:03:55.240 --> 00:03:57.879 cole rejects got boots at most of them, or this 81 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:01.240 man's events that he has put together, so I'm very 82 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:03.240 happy to be able to get him on. I appreciate 83 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:05.159 him giving me the chance to have a booth at 84 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:07.560 all these events. That's what's up, and I look forward 85 00:04:07.599 --> 00:04:09.120 to having fun. I think I'm going to meet a 86 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:12.240 lot of interesting people and have a great time. And John, 87 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:15.080 please let everybody know what your deal is and what's up. 88 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:17.600 Well, good evening. 89 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:19.839 First of all, it's great to meet all your wonderful 90 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:23.920 co hosts. And I'm doctor John Stamy and I produce 91 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:28.040 paranormal events. I guess my signature event is the Georgia 92 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:31.800 Bigfoot Conference. In the World UFO conference, we are starting 93 00:04:32.360 --> 00:04:37.120 a series of UFO comic cons and Bigfoot comic cons. 94 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:40.879 So on October fourth, we are going to have the 95 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:46.199 second Bigfoot Comic Con in Franklin, North Carolina, right on 96 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:49.759 the border with Georgia. That is at the Factory, which 97 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:54.040 is a one hundred thousand square foot kids and adults, 98 00:04:54.079 --> 00:04:58.160 if you want to arcade and amusement park. It's indoors. 99 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:01.680 It's the most fun you can ever have. I got 100 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:03.959 I got to play in some games and it was 101 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:06.839 just terrible. I couldn't get away from them. But no, 102 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:09.439 it's gonna be a lot of fun. We got great speakers. 103 00:05:09.920 --> 00:05:14.040 I mean, first of all, we've got John Price, who's 104 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:16.600 the state director of Alabama. Move I'm gonna be talking 105 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:22.480 about Bigfoot in UFOs. We're going to have goll yeh, 106 00:05:22.480 --> 00:05:25.680 I forgot, I've forgotten who all. We're gonna have lots 107 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:30.240 of cool people, but especially those two gentlemen with us 108 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:35.959 tonight with the Center for Wilderness Cryptid Studies. We've got 109 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:38.560 Douglas and Trey. Hey, Douglas, how are you? 110 00:05:39.000 --> 00:05:39.680 And Don? Good? 111 00:05:40.759 --> 00:05:41.079 Great? 112 00:05:41.160 --> 00:05:42.319 Trey, how are you? 113 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:44.560 I'm doing great, man, It's good to see you again. 114 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:48.600 And I'll tell you why they're here. This is one 115 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:51.160 of those things. I'm a big believer in the Chamber 116 00:05:51.240 --> 00:05:54.560 of Commerce. I believe that's how you get in touch 117 00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:58.199 with thousands of people with your events. And when I 118 00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:01.240 was there joining the Chamber of Common last month, they said, 119 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:06.680 wait a second, you do Bigfoot. There's this guy Douglas 120 00:06:07.199 --> 00:06:11.519 that has something about wilderness and cryptid So I said, 121 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:13.680 give me his name and address and phone number now. 122 00:06:14.199 --> 00:06:15.959 So I called and left him a message. A couple 123 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:18.439 days later he called, and it was wonderful. 124 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:19.560 It was like old home week. 125 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:23.279 We're we're doing things in the town where they live, 126 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:25.480 and a town that I love that I have some 127 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:29.639 really good friends, like Mark Munsey, the paranormal author. In fact, 128 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:33.319 he's going to be the keynote speaker there. Mark's great. 129 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:36.480 He was just at the Mofman Festival this weekend. He's 130 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:39.560 just all over everywhere. He's a great guy. So you 131 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:45.319 will enjoy John Price. You're going to enjoy Mark Munsey. 132 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:48.959 I will be there speaking, and of course these two 133 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:53.639 gentlemen for the Center for Wilderness Cryptid Studies. I can't wait. 134 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:56.240 We're all all the speakers. Oh and also n CI 135 00:06:56.360 --> 00:07:01.199 North Carolina Investigates will be there. Jones can't be there 136 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:04.079 because he's going to be in Europe. He and his 137 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:07.839 wife are going to be there witnessing the wedding of 138 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:10.839 their best friends who are getting married in the Netherlands, 139 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:12.040 so they can't be there, but. 140 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:13.720 They will be with us next time. 141 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:17.360 We're looking forward to even having another one, another Bigfoot 142 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:21.240 Comic con there in Franklin in February of twenty twenty six. 143 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:24.040 More on that later, but right now, I would like 144 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:28.000 to now because of the traffic in Charlotte today, I 145 00:07:28.079 --> 00:07:31.480 was coming to Morganton, my old hometown, and I couldn't 146 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:34.199 get there because of all the traffic jams. So I 147 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:38.560 am in Valdies, which is about twenty miles from Morganton. 148 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:43.120 Some friends let me stand in their driveway and do 149 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:45.879 my little introduction. So I'm gonna be I'm gonna be 150 00:07:45.920 --> 00:07:49.120 headed to Parts Unknown, which is my sweet little cousin, 151 00:07:49.839 --> 00:07:52.759 Sir Lynsas and Morganton, but I wanted to be here 152 00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:56.839 to mention the conference. On Friday, at four o'clock, we 153 00:07:56.879 --> 00:07:59.480 are going to have a big Foot bar cross starting 154 00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:04.600 at the Lazy Hiker in Franklin, and then we're going 155 00:08:04.639 --> 00:08:06.959 to go around to the rath Scaler. The Chamber of 156 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:09.879 Commerce is going to be doing a ribbon cutting for us, 157 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:14.319 and we're gonna have remarks by the past mayor Bob Scott. 158 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:18.240 He was in the newspaper last week talking about six 159 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:21.360 Bigfoot sightings in the Franklin area and I thought, well, 160 00:08:21.360 --> 00:08:23.519 we may as well get him to come there and 161 00:08:23.560 --> 00:08:25.839 talk to us. Everybody will enjoy it. So he will 162 00:08:25.879 --> 00:08:29.800 be there and then Saturday from ten to six at 163 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:33.480 the Factory. It's on it's ten twenty four Georgia Street 164 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:35.879 in Franklin. It's going to be a blast. We oh, 165 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:39.279 We've got tons of tons of speakers, tons of great people. 166 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:42.799 Nick will be there and so we can't wait to 167 00:08:42.799 --> 00:08:45.519 see everybody. It's only five dollars admission at the door. 168 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:48.600 We're going to have about ten or twelve vendors. I 169 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:50.759 had to keep it small the first time to kind 170 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:53.559 of see how everything went. But I think I'm expecting 171 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:56.279 great things there at the Factory as we continue to 172 00:08:56.399 --> 00:09:01.159 run these Bigfoot comic cons. So, without any further I 173 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:04.840 want to thank Nick and all of his co hosts, 174 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:08.799 and I want to introduce Trey and Doug the Center 175 00:09:08.919 --> 00:09:13.559 for Wilderness Studies and I am going to vanish like 176 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:16.639 the Invisible Man and get on over to Morganton before 177 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:18.879 it gets too late and I get picked up by 178 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:19.440 a UFO. 179 00:09:19.639 --> 00:09:20.240 Is that okay? 180 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:20.519 Nick? 181 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:23.000 Sounds good to me, sir, Thank you very much, man, 182 00:09:23.039 --> 00:09:24.759 I really appreciate it. All right, Nick, we'll see you. 183 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:26.240 We'll see you guys soon. 184 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:29.960 All right, Yes, you will playda John yep. 185 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:35.320 So we got uh, we got Jeremy and Douglas and 186 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:37.480 interesting enough, I mean maybe we should just thought off 187 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:41.120 this way, interesting enough. Brooke actually met them recently. So uh, 188 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:43.200 I don't know if you guys, if you guys even 189 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:45.440 wanted to talk about that, that's noted interesting to begin with, 190 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:46.879 about how you guys even met. 191 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:52.039 Yeah, I mean we met at a bigfoot camp out 192 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:56.960 put on North Carolina Bigfoot Adventures by Cheryl Peacock. She's 193 00:09:57.000 --> 00:10:01.240 fantastic and you guys can take it away. 194 00:10:02.279 --> 00:10:03.480 Oh, Trey, you're the guy. 195 00:10:04.679 --> 00:10:07.200 Well, I can talk all about the event, and I 196 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:09.399 would love to, because it was a great time. But 197 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:12.440 as far as the most entertaining part of that was 198 00:10:12.519 --> 00:10:14.799 there was somebody out there who. 199 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:18.159 He just uh, he just took. 200 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:19.919 It to the next level and it made it very 201 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:23.679 entertaining a little spooky for some people, and he did 202 00:10:23.759 --> 00:10:26.720 not finish out the camping trip with everybody, but yeah, 203 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:29.639 it definitely made for a great icebreaker for everybody else 204 00:10:29.679 --> 00:10:30.399 that was involved. 205 00:10:32.960 --> 00:10:36.120 He kind of got stuck talking everybody just about the situation. Right, 206 00:10:36.960 --> 00:10:37.679 that's interesting. 207 00:10:38.440 --> 00:10:43.960 Yeah, it was an experience, right, it was definitely definitely made. 208 00:10:45.120 --> 00:10:49.720 Yeah, it was an experience. He was this person. 209 00:10:49.960 --> 00:10:53.480 There were a small hiccup in what was actually what 210 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:55.679 I found for me, you know, this was And I'd 211 00:10:55.720 --> 00:10:58.480 like to add that this was my first outing in 212 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:02.559 relation to the Orger organization that Douglas and I are 213 00:11:02.600 --> 00:11:05.200 a part of, and also just looking for Bigfoot as 214 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:07.240 a whole and as an introduction to that. 215 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:10.399 I thoroughly enjoyed every part of it. I want to 216 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:11.000 add that it. 217 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:13.799 Did not take away, you know, being my first time. 218 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:16.679 It did not like, oh Jesus, everybody like this, like 219 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:20.039 oh my gosh, you never come back. I didn't have 220 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:21.720 those thoughts at all. I had a great time, and 221 00:11:21.759 --> 00:11:23.559 I think it was very productive as a whole. 222 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:27.600 So, Jeremy and Douglas, I'd like to ask you about 223 00:11:27.639 --> 00:11:31.440 your feelings about Bigfoot. Do you feel like this is 224 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:35.159 something that we can actually make contact with or is it? 225 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:39.679 You know, there's a value in the folklore itself, right, 226 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:42.639 So by passing on these traditions of Bigfoot, you're almost 227 00:11:42.679 --> 00:11:46.960 creating a community, right kennes See. 228 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:53.159 Doug, Doug, I'll let you go first with your thoughts. 229 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:56.440 He's also the president and founder of the organization, so 230 00:11:56.480 --> 00:11:57.679 I'll let him take it away first. 231 00:11:57.720 --> 00:12:00.879 Yeah, Douglas luck Miller, the president founder of the Center 232 00:12:00.919 --> 00:12:02.080 for Water Scripture Studies. 233 00:12:02.440 --> 00:12:04.759 We're a North Carolina nonprofit. 234 00:12:04.360 --> 00:12:08.159 Organization that is devoted to researching the possible existant to Bigfoot. 235 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:13.080 So with that said, possible existence. 236 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:16.919 Exactly, that's the way we approach it. 237 00:12:17.000 --> 00:12:21.120 We actually are almost kind of like approaching it to 238 00:12:21.159 --> 00:12:22.440 disprove it. 239 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:25.559 Well, people think you're less cooky that way too, if you. 240 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:29.919 Yeah, that give my myself an out for that. 241 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:34.639 But now I'm fifty to fifty, I'm thinking that maybe 242 00:12:34.679 --> 00:12:39.639 there is, maybe there's not. It's I come from a 243 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:43.120 law enforcement background. I was a traffic homicide investigator in 244 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:44.399 South Florida, and. 245 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:46.480 I think the. 246 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:52.919 Looking into the possibilities of something is what intrigues me 247 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:55.360 the most. And this is something that I spent a 248 00:12:55.399 --> 00:12:58.080 lot of time hiking in these mountains, and a lot 249 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:01.320 of the times big bonds at night, sitting around the 250 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:04.720 campfire trying to like scare each other, subject always comes 251 00:13:04.799 --> 00:13:07.919 up a Bigfoot and I'm like, you know, once I 252 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:10.879 lost my hiking partner and wasn't able to really go 253 00:13:10.960 --> 00:13:13.159 out and do that anymore, I'm like, you know, what 254 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:15.440 am I going to do to get back out there? 255 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:18.000 And I'm like, this might be the best way to 256 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:20.960 do it, get back out hiking again and have something 257 00:13:21.960 --> 00:13:27.639 to like maybe entertain myself, but also the possibilities of 258 00:13:27.679 --> 00:13:30.399 maybe finding something that nobody's been able to find before. 259 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:36.039 So started up the organization went from there. 260 00:13:36.480 --> 00:13:37.879 There's value in the adventure. 261 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:41.559 That's exactly right, That's what it is. It's not the 262 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:43.279 ending destination. It was the eventure. 263 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:46.840 They get there, yep, and you never know, I didn't 264 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:49.559 finding something nice nice. 265 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:55.080 Yeah, I'm actually interested in Bigfoot also, and well, my 266 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:58.240 specialties is the ancient text, going back to the ancient 267 00:13:58.279 --> 00:14:01.320 text as far as back to the Marians actually, because 268 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:04.159 they're supposed to be the oldest with the oldest writing system, 269 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:06.960 and they have an individual in their name, Inky Do, 270 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:10.639 and a lot of times this individual is depicted as 271 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:13.480 something that would look like a bigfoot, sometimes with horns 272 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:16.559 to show that it's an animal, sometimes with you know, 273 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:19.279 legs like bull or something like that to show that it's. 274 00:14:19.159 --> 00:14:22.120 Animal, but a human head and human arms and stuff 275 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:22.399 like that. 276 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:26.000 He was a best friend to Gilgamesh, and they also 277 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:28.919 talk about the type of hair he has. So when 278 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:31.320 you say you're fifty to fifty on it, that's where 279 00:14:32.159 --> 00:14:34.039 I'm kind of the same way too, because we have 280 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:36.519 ancient texts that says this. The only thing we don't 281 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:39.600 have is actual physical evidence as one being seen with 282 00:14:40.440 --> 00:14:42.519 our eyes, you know what I'm saying, something that we 283 00:14:42.519 --> 00:14:44.960 can go to a museum or something to say, oh, yeah, 284 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:47.480 that's a big foot. Yeah, we have you know, footprints 285 00:14:47.480 --> 00:14:49.200 and so on and so forth. But we also have 286 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:52.440 footprints of humans going back sixty five million years. I mean, 287 00:14:52.440 --> 00:14:54.480 that's just facts right there. So the idea of a 288 00:14:54.519 --> 00:15:00.039 bigfoot is just extraordinary to me. And I actually we 289 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:02.759 live in Georgia, and I know that Georgia has uh, 290 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:05.399 you know, a lot of sightings and we have a 291 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:07.720 lot of backwoods, and I'm back there and stuff like that. 292 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:10.519 I actually walk back there and just you know, meditate 293 00:15:10.639 --> 00:15:12.799 sometimes and just you know, walk through the woods and 294 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:14.759 sometimes you hear things that are not normal. 295 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:17.399 But that's if you're not normally out there. 296 00:15:17.399 --> 00:15:19.519 If you're somebody that's usually out there a lot, you 297 00:15:19.559 --> 00:15:22.240 start to tend to, you know, put the noise to 298 00:15:22.279 --> 00:15:25.200 the type of animal and stuff like that. So, but 299 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:28.639 as far as the Samerians, I believe the Samerians about 300 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:31.679 thirty two hundred BC. I'm gonna say, eighteenth eighteenth century. 301 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:34.039 I'm gonna say, yeah, about thirty two hundred BC, when 302 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:38.720 the Samarans started their civilization. Uh, they've been you know, 303 00:15:38.799 --> 00:15:41.840 describing something that could be considered a big big foot. 304 00:15:42.360 --> 00:15:44.240 And I wanted to know from one of you guys, 305 00:15:45.279 --> 00:15:47.879 what's the oldest known tale that you know of a 306 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:48.440 big foot? 307 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:57.159 Wow, the oldest one for me, Robertson Gimlin would be 308 00:15:57.200 --> 00:15:59.080 for me, that's the oldest that I would know. 309 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:03.159 Yeah, I'm actually kind of in the same beat with 310 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:08.120 Doug when it comes to bigfoot related things. That was 311 00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:11.080 something that never really crossed my radar, and especially not 312 00:16:11.159 --> 00:16:14.039 related to ancient times in the time period that you're 313 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:18.279 talking about. But I have always been pretty fascinated with 314 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:21.919 the UFOs. So I've heard of very very very ancient 315 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:26.960 depictions and scribings on the wall and whatnot related to aliens, 316 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:29.559 but nothing with bigfoot. I'd have to be with Doug 317 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:33.200 on that Patterson Gimlin was the or is the oldest 318 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:36.320 reference to Bigfoot that I'm not aware of? 319 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:46.000 Go ahead, I was gonna say, yeah, it's interesting because 320 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:47.799 a lot of people don't talk about that, you know. 321 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:50.120 And I came across this just maybe a couple of 322 00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:52.080 years ago when I was looking up who was Inky 323 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:54.919 to and he's literally the best friend of Gyilga. 324 00:16:54.639 --> 00:16:56.200 Mash and he's literally depicted. 325 00:16:56.600 --> 00:16:58.960 I like, because we know that all writing system started 326 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:02.759 as a pictographics script, right, It started with symbols, started 327 00:17:02.759 --> 00:17:05.319 with some type of picture depicting something what we can 328 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:08.039 what we can describe, you know, visually, but not in 329 00:17:08.079 --> 00:17:09.880 the words that we can put it in as a 330 00:17:09.880 --> 00:17:13.480 as of today. And those depictions literally do shows something 331 00:17:13.519 --> 00:17:16.920 would be considered a Bigfoot. And when you mentioned aliens, 332 00:17:16.960 --> 00:17:21.039 the Sumerians, uh, it's a hidden miss there. It's an 333 00:17:21.039 --> 00:17:23.319 idea of them being you know, the Anina slash the 334 00:17:23.359 --> 00:17:27.400 Ananaki are aliens. It's just whether they're extraterrestrial or interterrestrial. 335 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:30.839 And the idea that Bigfoot has this way of avoiding 336 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:33.880 people with you know, some way of tapping into some 337 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:36.799 type of portals or something like that. 338 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:37.240 To stay away. 339 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:40.880 There's there's all these theories in these ancient texts going 340 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:43.759 even back to the Indus Valley civilization, even you know, 341 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:47.599 going back with even the Aboriginal Australians that they talk 342 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:50.000 about it inner text. So it's just interesting that you know, 343 00:17:50.039 --> 00:17:54.640 around the world. And I've talked to uh uh, what's 344 00:17:54.680 --> 00:17:59.000 his name, Michael Kremo, had a podcast discussion with him, 345 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:02.880 and he's the Forbidden Archaeology and he has a whole 346 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:06.039 chapter on Bigfoot in his book and he describes it 347 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:09.240 from you know, the continents that you know humans live on, 348 00:18:09.559 --> 00:18:11.240 the different descriptions of them. 349 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:14.240 Do you believe that Bigfoot is just not here? It's 350 00:18:14.279 --> 00:18:15.880 just you know, there's different. 351 00:18:15.559 --> 00:18:18.640 Species a bit big for depending on the continent, like 352 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:21.240 you know how you know we have different you know, 353 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:24.359 human races and stuff like that, Like YETI. 354 00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:26.960 Yeah, like Yetti exactly had Liz, thank you? 355 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:31.079 Like YETI yeah, it's different diet too. 356 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:36.680 Maybe I think if applying a scientific approach to it, 357 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:40.920 that there would be definitely different versions of what bigfoot 358 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:43.920 or like you said, yeti or whatever it might be 359 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:48.119 called in other cultures and languages, because you know, based 360 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:52.960 on where it would be geographically, would kind of determine 361 00:18:54.039 --> 00:18:56.960 if it needs to be tall or short, or skinny 362 00:18:57.119 --> 00:19:01.680 or fat or muscular or strong whatever, even the diet. Yes, 363 00:19:01.799 --> 00:19:04.920 so yeah, I could definitely see there being a bunch 364 00:19:04.920 --> 00:19:09.119 of different appearance variations to to. 365 00:19:10.279 --> 00:19:14.240 Wells an interesting story about that too. She actually got 366 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:18.839 a lot of footprints from the swamps down there in Florida, 367 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:21.319 and it was a different size and a different shape, 368 00:19:21.319 --> 00:19:25.279 but it's still sort of similar in morphology from you know, 369 00:19:25.359 --> 00:19:27.880 maybe up in Georgia there's there's much more taller and 370 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:31.240 more robust versions, but in the in the Florida swamps, 371 00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:33.799 they seem to be a little bit smaller. So you 372 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:36.839 have these regional variations of the sightings that you see 373 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:40.319 that regards the ones in. 374 00:19:40.279 --> 00:19:42.440 Italy and mad short, so their feet a little bit small. 375 00:19:44.279 --> 00:19:49.160 We must have the Italian ones down here, because you 376 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:51.319 know that is true as far as the skuncake goes. 377 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:55.440 There's a debate in the community right now if they 378 00:19:55.519 --> 00:20:00.319 have four toes or the traditional five as well as 379 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:02.759 they do have different features, especially where you guys are 380 00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:07.079 in North Carolina. You know, I've heard reports of all 381 00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:10.519 gray ones and even black. I think though what the 382 00:20:10.519 --> 00:20:12.920 camp out we were at, Cheryl was actually able to 383 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:17.119 bring a witness there who had an encounter literally rate 384 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:19.160 in front of the campground, and she did describe it 385 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:22.839 as a cinnamon color, and that's or the dude did. 386 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:25.880 But that's kind of the variation we hear a lot 387 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:28.000 down here too, is that they're more of the orange colors. 388 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:30.960 But as you move up into the Appalachians, like North Carolina, 389 00:20:31.079 --> 00:20:34.680 North Georgia and so on, they do change in appearance. 390 00:20:34.680 --> 00:20:38.559 You hear they're really tall all black. So yeah, I 391 00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:39.960 think there's a little bit of a difference there. 392 00:20:43.680 --> 00:20:43.920 Yeah. 393 00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:47.440 We have a footprint that we've we didn't get to 394 00:20:47.480 --> 00:20:51.599 cast it. At the time that we discovered this footprint, 395 00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:53.519 we didn't have the capability to cast it, but we 396 00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:55.240 did get a three D scan of it that is 397 00:20:55.279 --> 00:20:58.079 on our website and it matches up with all the 398 00:20:58.119 --> 00:21:03.839 other more fallow that you're seeing, you know, from people 399 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:05.759 that are getting cast and stuff. It was a left 400 00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:09.279 and right. There was a break, you know, a heel 401 00:21:09.960 --> 00:21:17.160