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<v Speaker 1>Conversation. Damn it, Russ, I just turn it off, man,

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<v Speaker 1>my dad, it's all good, it's all good. I'm drinking

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<v Speaker 1>my boy rusting the mass Space podcast. I want, I won't.

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<v Speaker 1>I would expect you all to forget because it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a while, Sto. I've been recording. Some stuff came up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I gotta deal with that. How your day

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<v Speaker 1>been going, Russ? You're good?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>The show is busier than ever, and you know we've

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<v Speaker 4>been dropping episodes twice a week now rate just because

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<v Speaker 4>we've been so busy.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm busy there, but too like I always even

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<v Speaker 1>outwork today, but like that, he's not from being busy

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<v Speaker 1>like all day like stuff like that. Real quick, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because I've let me see, I started recording at like

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<v Speaker 1>four point thirty because Brandon, he has a very specific schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>had him on just now like an hour. Well he

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<v Speaker 1>came on an hour ago. This that me and him

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<v Speaker 1>and christ just now just spinished recording.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I barely made a home in time because I was

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<v Speaker 1>coming from therapy and I forgot to say this earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll say it now. If you just if you

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<v Speaker 1>need help, go get it you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I was was in the car Sunday night, yesterday night,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, we were talking with me. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like me, Brandon, Brandon's brother, and our friend Rammel was

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<v Speaker 1>in the car the s I was always chatting and

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<v Speaker 1>we were somehow got to the bendwa stuff and I

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<v Speaker 1>was saying, how what really got to me is what

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<v Speaker 1>Vicky Garrel said, And she said something along the lines

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<v Speaker 1>of how he was surrounded by not only the fans

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<v Speaker 1>who loved him, and only the Chris Colley who loved

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<v Speaker 1>him right, but friends and family who loved him, all

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<v Speaker 1>of who I just said would have helped him, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, and got him help, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So he doesn't. So she was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>how he doesn't really have any excuse justification, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. And that that actually like hit like

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<v Speaker 1>resonating with me, you know what I'm saying. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like reach out, go get help. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, If you need it, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's not stigmatize mental health because mental illness is

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<v Speaker 1>it's all the same. It's an illness like just like

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<v Speaker 1>the common coal, just like any other illness, it's an illness,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So that stigmatized one particular

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<v Speaker 1>type of illness, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>You hear me, Russ, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm not even sorry that almost made and

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<v Speaker 1>then my tongue, I'm not even sorry that I almost

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<v Speaker 1>was laid it because of that, you know, because that

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<v Speaker 1>comes first, and it's that third and I'll say this

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<v Speaker 1>real quick, right, A very reassuring experience and also a

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<v Speaker 1>very another pleasant time. And because that, right, the town

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<v Speaker 1>that's it's it's in Long Island, like one tunnel from

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm at, and it's just a nice town. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a Glen Oaks, right, and it's just a it's

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<v Speaker 1>so beautiful, like the town and everybody there so honest

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<v Speaker 1>and nice, right, And I like to contribute to that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm so last week I'm coming from there right,

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<v Speaker 1>walking down the street and and I find like a

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<v Speaker 1>like a like an envelope and the mill come in.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, what happened to the millman? Like dropped

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<v Speaker 1>the fault to the milmun's bag or something, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was addressed to this address, and I know what checks

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<v Speaker 1>look like this on a check in this envelope.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and.

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<v Speaker 1>The actress was that of a building right across the

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<v Speaker 1>street from when I was standing where I found this envelope.

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<v Speaker 1>So I, yeah, two sixty third dashed something Hillside Avenue, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I go in there. It's like it's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like three buildings, you know, like they're together,

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<v Speaker 1>like the same building, like three businesses. Yeah, like a

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<v Speaker 1>halal place and some smoothie place. And then they got

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<v Speaker 1>and they got like, I don't know what it's like

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<v Speaker 1>check cash in in place whatever it was, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I gave it to the person like he assured me, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is like, no, it's this is all

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<v Speaker 1>I give to a correct person. And that's it. I left, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, it's it's such a nice town. You know

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<v Speaker 1>this that there. Then then I come back home to

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<v Speaker 1>like where I live, Queens Village, Shadyville, the hood, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and oh my god, let me just tell you man,

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<v Speaker 1>like like I'm getting I'm like, I get off by

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<v Speaker 1>a train station and I see the music at Pickpocketed

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, my god, how could you stoop?

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<v Speaker 4>Solow?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Oh my god, how you feeling right now?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting over a cold. How you feeling?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good man, this this weather is so crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It was raining cats and dogs. I know, I stuff

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<v Speaker 1>in a poodle.

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<v Speaker 3>Mhm yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean we were at some you know, being over

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<v Speaker 4>ninety degrees. Yes, a couple of days ago too, down

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<v Speaker 4>the forty degrees last.

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<v Speaker 1>Night, Like when I went to Brandon's house right to

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<v Speaker 1>watch Mania, it was like nice and warm, right, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>wearing like schwartz and stuff like that. And then by

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<v Speaker 1>the time I'm leaving the I'm leaving his house right now,

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<v Speaker 1>we call silence freezing cold.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm like, yeah, that's that's Stuff's crazy. It definitely

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<v Speaker 4>will make you said.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wearing shoes. I'm like, I'm like slippers. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>wear shoes that were slippers. Yeah, but but yeah, man, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>that's enough stolen. We're live right now. So already gave

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<v Speaker 1>like my thoughts, uh real quick, give me like a

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<v Speaker 1>quick overview as I pull up my website at shapiroo

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<v Speaker 1>dot com of Russemania, you make like a quick synopsis

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<v Speaker 1>what your thoughts were.

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<v Speaker 3>Over Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>I I've heard a lot of the complaints that people

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<v Speaker 4>had about matches being too short and people getting more time,

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<v Speaker 4>and the commercials. Like the first day, I didn't even

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<v Speaker 4>notice the commercial. I didn't notice him. I didn't really

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<v Speaker 4>get into the matches being too short, didn't even notice

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<v Speaker 4>any of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was entertained by what was going on.

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<v Speaker 4>The only thing that stood out to me night one

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<v Speaker 4>at night two was the referees at times getting getting buried.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, okay, I look and I see I think

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<v Speaker 4>Seth Robbins out the ring and he's been out the

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<v Speaker 4>ring for at least you know, two, two, three minutes,

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<v Speaker 4>and the referees just at four and he never goes

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<v Speaker 4>back in the ring, and the referee never starts counting anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Brian Breaker, he comes down, I'm like.

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<v Speaker 4>Where's the referee? The referee was in the ring counting?

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<v Speaker 4>Why is he out of the ring now? You know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's little things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And bro my reason for that right because was so

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<v Speaker 1>fast through didn't see it. All he saw was a

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<v Speaker 1>blur and selling his ribs or whatever it was. That's

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<v Speaker 1>my explace.

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<v Speaker 4>Why I can I can see him not seeing it,

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<v Speaker 4>but why was the referee not in the ring anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, he was checking on gun there? Why with look

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<v Speaker 1>at table spot something like that, with gun through and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like a pedigun on table something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>It was something, but he did he really had no

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<v Speaker 4>reason to go outside the ring. Go out there, you

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<v Speaker 4>check on him, and you get back in the ring.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we always see them go out there when

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<v Speaker 4>there's a big bump outside the ring.

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<v Speaker 2>But get back in the ring and do your job

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<v Speaker 2>and count. I mean, there should have.

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<v Speaker 4>Been a double DQ before it even got to the

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<v Speaker 4>table spot because they've been out there for like five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Since we're talking about referees not you know, calling stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and not seeing things or seeing things not calling stuff. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just let's just fast all the way for to

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<v Speaker 1>night at night two using the steel steps right in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the referee. Who'say from me? Yes, Why wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I have zero clue in that one? Because and I

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<v Speaker 4>heard Michael Cole say, well, the referee is showing some

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<v Speaker 4>discussion right here.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Cole did say that the referee is showing some

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<v Speaker 2>some discretion.

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<v Speaker 3>However, come on, I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>If you throw somebody into the stairs, it's part of

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<v Speaker 4>the ring. But the minute you pick the stairs up,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a weapon. Yes, right right, so it's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's no longer part of the ring once you pick

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<v Speaker 4>up the stairs and and so yeah that that should

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<v Speaker 4>have been a d Q right there, and and for

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<v Speaker 4>him to look at the referee and and do it anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, And he started out all right, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he rest of his counting, he slid back in the ring,

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<v Speaker 4>He slid back out like okay, cool, we're gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a good match. And then he does that, and

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<v Speaker 2>like what the hell? That that stood out to me,

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<v Speaker 2>like he.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, this, why why not? I'm being up? He's a rap.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a sight while I find him because I better

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<v Speaker 1>brandon five dollars to see him was gonna win or whatever?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was a bad bet. I mean, there was

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<v Speaker 4>no way to take that.

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<v Speaker 3>You should have.

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<v Speaker 2>Taken that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Why why do you say that?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you even when you look at that, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean that was this was Romans, this Romans win.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's do something like that? Might saying that women.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, I mean you gotta, you gotta you really

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<v Speaker 4>had to put a jolt into what was going on.

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<v Speaker 4>Roman is the biggest star. He is the and they

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<v Speaker 4>needed to put a jolt because ratings have been slipping.

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<v Speaker 4>They and you can tell a lot more story with

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<v Speaker 4>Roman right now than you can't a Punk, and and

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<v Speaker 4>so the you had to go with Roman winning.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's here's where the believability in wrestling happens. To me, Right,

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<v Speaker 4>if you stand aj Lee and Becky beside each other,

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<v Speaker 4>would you believe.

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<v Speaker 2>Without help or.

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<v Speaker 4>Something, that aj Lee could beat her just in a

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<v Speaker 4>straight up fight.

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<v Speaker 1>I know where you're going with this guy, Say yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I do.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, just because she's from Jersey, I mean I think,

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<v Speaker 4>But no, I mean you could Punk. And granted I

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<v Speaker 4>give Punk all the credit in the well, he looked

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<v Speaker 4>like he was in the best shape he's been in

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<v Speaker 4>in ten years, ten to fifteen years, like he he

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<v Speaker 4>I really give him credit for taking it serious and

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<v Speaker 4>getting in shape because he looked good last night. But

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<v Speaker 4>you still like that version of Roman, like I cannot

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<v Speaker 4>see Punk beating Roman. There was no believability in that

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<v Speaker 4>to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say this real quick, right, I thought, maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like some some some some snowballs. Chance, maybe they were

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<v Speaker 1>like even a score. Because in twenty thirteen, Roman did

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<v Speaker 1>see him punk on Raw. No remember stats, but yeah

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<v Speaker 1>remember that and rollmanrium six stool a heels part of

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have no knowledge of that whatsoever, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I think like the old old school night whatever they

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, as a whole.

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<v Speaker 2>I I was entertained.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I said, I stayed off social media during the show.

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<v Speaker 4>I was texting with two of my buddies throughout night

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<v Speaker 4>one at night two watching the show, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>get caught up into I didn't even realize how short

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<v Speaker 4>the matches were. Like I looked up and I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just after you know, it's just after ten o'clock

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<v Speaker 4>and the show's over. Like that's all right, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and yeah, gudea. So I didn't notice how how short

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<v Speaker 4>any of the matches were that people were complaining about.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, to me, it's about.

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<v Speaker 4>WWE has told you, especially the last couple of years,

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<v Speaker 4>the way they've done the Hall of Fame, right, and

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<v Speaker 4>they've had that new category for like moments, right that

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<v Speaker 4>it's about moments, not headlocks. You know, it's not about

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<v Speaker 4>the matches, because what's one of the greatest WrestleMania matches.

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<v Speaker 2>Just throw one out there.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, can you tell me five things that happened in

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<v Speaker 4>that match that were wrestling related outside of moments?

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<v Speaker 1>Does table spots count?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure? Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>So Michael's throwing Musso on the table and not breaking

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<v Speaker 1>the finish of course the ankle lock. So that's two spots.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh is gonna doing a low blow in the ropes

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<v Speaker 1>h Craig on the top. And I mean, I'm lying

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<v Speaker 1>if I said I remember the specific spot by what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like there are there are certain spots that we remember.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not like we remember the match and people are

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<v Speaker 4>thinking like, oh, well, this is such a great match.

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<v Speaker 2>A headlock is a headlock as a headlock.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't need a he I don't need to see.

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<v Speaker 4>A headlock for twenty minutes. Can you get the story

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<v Speaker 4>told in the amount of time that you got it?

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<v Speaker 4>Got got to tell the story.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember we were joking. I think it was thirty

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<v Speaker 1>last night and now, okay in the man was beginning right, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this match twelve was long. We all said Roman's entry

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<v Speaker 1>Then you goat stays up a good ten minutes, then

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<v Speaker 1>to Logs and hell Longs and yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 4>They told both hats off to Roman and Punk Man.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought they told a great story throughout. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>and the ending of it, right, the ending of it

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<v Speaker 4>goes back to Roman's promo when he said you're old.

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<v Speaker 4>Punk's body gave out on him, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>we've seen him do that spot several times over the

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<v Speaker 4>last couple of years, and when he got down to

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<v Speaker 4>him and Roman doing it, he couldn't do it because his.

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<v Speaker 2>Body gave out. He was old.

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<v Speaker 4>They were telling the story and the punishment was too

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<v Speaker 4>much for him. So, I mean, I thought it was

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<v Speaker 4>a great story that they told throughout, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed the main event, but.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I think out of the main events, it

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<v Speaker 4>was probably one of the better main events over the.

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<v Speaker 2>Last few years.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, real quick as you are.

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<v Speaker 2>Recording, despite the referee, but go ahead, real.

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<v Speaker 1>Quick as we're as we're recording right now. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to just a second ago, right, the wrestling in

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<v Speaker 1>the Nerds podcast just dropped. Everybody stop us. It goes

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<v Speaker 1>to that nothing the Nerds just came out just now,

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<v Speaker 1>what's many forty we're talking about to also check it

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<v Speaker 1>out real quick. What are you saying, you're just cutting

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<v Speaker 1>off again.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was just and despite despite the referees, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I just I enjoyed that that main event. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I go back tonight one. I actually enjoyed the match

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<v Speaker 4>with Cody and Roman, Cody and Randy. Yeah, I enjoyed

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<v Speaker 4>the match. I mean, people were screaming about Jelly Row

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<v Speaker 4>being involved. I'm like, the match hadn't even started at

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<v Speaker 4>that point.

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<v Speaker 1>That was that was so bad. It was awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>It was yeah, I mean him doing that little his

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<v Speaker 4>little move or whatever. I'm like, he's not a wrestler,

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<v Speaker 4>so he's not supposed to do it perfect. But I

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I still I still like them getting you know, getting.

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<v Speaker 2>Old boy out the way.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, yeah, he took him out the way and

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<v Speaker 4>then he comes back. So I'm sure that there's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>there's gotta be some little social media leak at some

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<v Speaker 4>point of something backstage of him getting the referee outfit.

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<v Speaker 4>There'll be something on social media as something that's so

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<v Speaker 4>whether we got to watch the next unreal to see

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<v Speaker 4>it happen or whatever. But he's you know, how he

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<v Speaker 4>got the referee outfit to come back out there, and

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<v Speaker 4>I really think you know, people are like, well, why

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<v Speaker 4>why did Randy sit there in r KL because he

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<v Speaker 4>counted too slow?

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<v Speaker 1>So you have, yeah, good two things, right. I'm hoping

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<v Speaker 1>that they show him fighting referee and him like taking

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<v Speaker 1>to the closet, beat him up clothes. I hope that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to happen so badly. And number two is

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<v Speaker 1>I hate to beat this guy right now. I hate

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<v Speaker 1>to beat this guy right now, but I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>just because you do realize right that, like there's no

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<v Speaker 1>reason why if he had counting three it'd be valid.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not a referee, so see, so why is Randy mad?

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<v Speaker 1>He's not a free to begin with.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, he's got TKL behind his back. They could have

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<v Speaker 4>made it official. I mean TK put him in there.

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<v Speaker 4>Nobody came out to stop him. That's the referee. Nobody

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<v Speaker 4>came out there. Mean you could have saw foreign to

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<v Speaker 4>Adam Pearce as he liked to call him, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>some running out there or something.

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<v Speaker 1>But we were talking about earlier, right, So how do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel about involvements and creative.

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<v Speaker 4>I honestly, honestly, I mean all, I think all that speculation,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that they're involved in creative at all.

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<v Speaker 4>I think there was nothing to do with it. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's just the internet rumor, uh, and how they're

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<v Speaker 4>telling the.

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<v Speaker 3>Story, right.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's that's the way I feel with that as

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<v Speaker 4>far as you know, t k Oh, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>think they're ruining the w W because they're trying to

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<v Speaker 4>make it too corporate and they're taking out their snatching

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<v Speaker 4>out the lifeblood of what the w W is about,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's about families.

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<v Speaker 2>Then when you got corporate.

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<v Speaker 4>Dollars sitting there, you get a whole different crowd, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean people were more entertained than there by watching

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<v Speaker 4>the guy from the forty nine ers drink beers than actually,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, what was going on in the ring, because

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<v Speaker 4>you got the wrong type of people there, and then

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<v Speaker 4>you know, yeah, he ca Overall, they're going to think, well,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, whatever they did at the end worked to

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<v Speaker 4>get that increase in ticket sales, because they bumped up

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<v Speaker 4>almost you know, twelve thousand tickets in the last week.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of people did walk ups and bought you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I think I heard Jonathan Coachman say that a friend

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<v Speaker 4>of his bought a ticket in the third row for

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred bucks for night one, an hour before the show.

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<v Speaker 4>So he said that, he said when he looked that

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<v Speaker 4>ticket up, when coach looked that ticket up, that as

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<v Speaker 4>a comparison, that that ticket was six thousand dollars hm hmm, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and he got it for one hundred bucks an hour

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<v Speaker 4>before the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's not even bad. And for me, it's even

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<v Speaker 1>bad FORMIA standards, right, how like how like how high

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<v Speaker 1>thorough b that'd be like third row?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean this is like you're.

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<v Speaker 4>You're three back, not not third third section, three rows

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<v Speaker 4>back from from the ring.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so you ran okay bad for one hundred bucks,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yes, good, that's a good deal.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a real good deal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just you right, yeah, that's a that's a real

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<v Speaker 1>good deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So I mean that's gonna be a lot of that

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<v Speaker 4>going forward. You know, people are gonna sit there and

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<v Speaker 4>wait to the last minute to buy these tickets just

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<v Speaker 4>because you know they're pricing new people out. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>this card, if you would have sat there and done

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<v Speaker 4>this same match under events, if you had this exact

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<v Speaker 4>same card.

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<v Speaker 2>The minute Mania.

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<v Speaker 4>Was announced, it would have sold out in an hour

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<v Speaker 4>and it really wouldn't have mattered. If they went back

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<v Speaker 4>to Vegas two years in a row, they could have

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<v Speaker 4>done it and it would have sold out in an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>M hm, real quick. So uh, the pre match, the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>the middle, and the post match. Wait, give me your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on the on the Cody versus Rainy Night one

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<v Speaker 1>made events like everything about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So.

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<v Speaker 4>The story pre everything leading up to it.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was a very good story.

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<v Speaker 4>I love the entrances with with Cody and telling the

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<v Speaker 4>story over time, getting down to.

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<v Speaker 2>The ring, and the.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh Pat McAfee coming out with with Randy and trying

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<v Speaker 4>to be a little version of Paul and and then

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<v Speaker 4>you get Jelly Roll's appearance, Like, yeah, as bad as

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<v Speaker 4>that looked, you know, it was fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I like.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the thing that Jelly Roll said is now

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<v Speaker 4>we get the one on one match that we wanted

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<v Speaker 4>all along with no interference. That's what Jelly Roll said, said,

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<v Speaker 4>he yelled that out. So I was fine with all

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<v Speaker 4>of that. The match I thought was was was really decent.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought the match was good. I just did not

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<v Speaker 4>like the how they stayed outside the ring, saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it just it happened again with you know, taking all

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<v Speaker 4>the credibility off the referee.

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<v Speaker 2>In that match, and.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, and if you just saw like two rookies

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<v Speaker 4>do this, you know, they would have probably been shipped

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<v Speaker 4>back to NXT.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, by by.

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<v Speaker 4>This morning, they'd have been back in NXT, if not gone.

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<v Speaker 4>But when you got you know, veterans doing it, it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it took all the to me, it took all the

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<v Speaker 4>credibility off the referee, and it's like, you know, why

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<v Speaker 4>don't we just make it a street fight at that point.

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<v Speaker 4>I know a lot of people were upset that Cody

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<v Speaker 4>when Pat came back in the ring, that Cody didn't

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<v Speaker 4>kick Pat in the going, But I'm like, no, he

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<v Speaker 4>was saving that up for Randy because Randy was the

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<v Speaker 4>one who kicked him first. You know, Cody seemed like

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<v Speaker 4>he was getting a little bit more healish in his

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<v Speaker 4>ways even with the kick.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was half choking that night a double turn

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<v Speaker 1>mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it seemed like they were going that way, but

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<v Speaker 4>they didn't pull the trigger.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it was it was interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was good. I mean, was it was it.

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<v Speaker 2>A great match. I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It was entertaining to me, so like I got caught

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<v Speaker 2>into it. I watched him watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I feel about the post.

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<v Speaker 4>Match, Oh, Randy kicking him in the head.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like.

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<v Speaker 4>You've seen Randy a few times think about doing it,

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<v Speaker 4>think about doing.

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<v Speaker 2>It, and then when he finally did it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like, ooh and uh, I was kind of surprised.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, I was kind of surprised by it. I was

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<v Speaker 4>kind of surprised they did it and that they're going

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<v Speaker 4>to carry on the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, real quick, right, I'm trying to find a time

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<v Speaker 1>signature on the Oh three means three eight minutes ago,

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<v Speaker 1>so like thirty eight minutes ago as we were recording, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to post some official thirst seat radio

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram from Dirty World dot com and it's saying

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<v Speaker 1>so the headline is TKO president Mark Shapiro confirms TTO

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<v Speaker 1>has full control of w W Creative, spends lots of

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<v Speaker 1>money to bring in stars and market ww right, and

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<v Speaker 1>the caption is reading speaking at the University of Alabama,

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<v Speaker 1>a student acts TKO president Mark Shapiro about to proceed

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<v Speaker 1>overalliance on celebrities in WW do the TKO. Shapiro confirms

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<v Speaker 1>that TKO has full control of WW creative and are

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for the increased celebrity usage. He says he disagrees

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<v Speaker 1>with the idea that it's a bad thing having these

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<v Speaker 1>well we've spent him to say, is a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Having these Hollywood tie ins and stars on the show

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<v Speaker 1>is not new, but TKO is spending a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>money to market WW now. Shapiro admits that spreading the

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<v Speaker 1>WW product across multiple streaming services will chase long chase

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<v Speaker 1>long time fans away, so he hold on a minute, admits,

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<v Speaker 1>wait what. Shapiro admits that spreading the WW product across

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<v Speaker 1>multiple streaming services will chase long time fans away, but

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<v Speaker 1>he compares this to MLB bands who have to spend

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand dollars across ten platforms. He says, this is

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<v Speaker 1>just the way of the world.

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<v Speaker 4>Hm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>We've built on this.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's a bunch of bs because we're not

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<v Speaker 4>we're not MLB, we're not NFL, we're not in NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>It's wrestling and and this stuff is.

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<v Speaker 4>Fan fan generated. You know, you're only around because of

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<v Speaker 4>the fans. You're not around because of these other other deals.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I don't like this at all. I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's a bunch of crap. And yeah, it's it's just

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't it doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>Brand because I was trying to say that hands are

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<v Speaker 1>kind of tied because and this kind of confirms why

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<v Speaker 1>I said, mh you know TQ, because they're a parent company,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so triple his hands are kind of tired.

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<v Speaker 1>He's very limited because at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>it's their call, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, oh man, I'm gonna have to go because I

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<v Speaker 4>need to hop on another call.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, go do that. I'm gonna go do other things,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, you gotta go. Hey, all right, I say

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers, all right, so's gonna go.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, come back in an hour. Really because Richard

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<v Speaker 1>and Alec Hama, I got a whole bunch of guests

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<v Speaker 1>who can come on. So stay tuned for that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>back in an hour. Stay tuned w W s t

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<v Speaker 1>that real quick. All right. Well, let me charge my

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