Speaker 1: Conversation. Damn it, Russ, I just turn it off, man,
Speaker 1: my dad, it's all good, it's all good. I'm drinking
Speaker 1: my boy rusting the mass Space podcast. I want, I won't.
Speaker 1: I would expect you all to forget because it's been
Speaker 1: a while, Sto. I've been recording. Some stuff came up,
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta deal with that. How your day
Speaker 1: been going, Russ? You're good?
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I'm good.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: The show is busier than ever, and you know we've
Speaker 4: been dropping episodes twice a week now rate just because
Speaker 4: we've been so busy.
Speaker 1: So I'm busy there, but too like I always even
Speaker 1: outwork today, but like that, he's not from being busy
Speaker 1: like all day like stuff like that. Real quick, right,
Speaker 1: because I've let me see, I started recording at like
Speaker 1: four point thirty because Brandon, he has a very specific schedule,
Speaker 1: had him on just now like an hour. Well he
Speaker 1: came on an hour ago. This that me and him
Speaker 1: and christ just now just spinished recording.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: I barely made a home in time because I was
Speaker 1: coming from therapy and I forgot to say this earlier.
Speaker 1: So I'll say it now. If you just if you
Speaker 1: need help, go get it you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was was in the car Sunday night, yesterday night,
Speaker 1: and you know, we were talking with me. It was
Speaker 1: like me, Brandon, Brandon's brother, and our friend Rammel was
Speaker 1: in the car the s I was always chatting and
Speaker 1: we were somehow got to the bendwa stuff and I
Speaker 1: was saying, how what really got to me is what
Speaker 1: Vicky Garrel said, And she said something along the lines
Speaker 1: of how he was surrounded by not only the fans
Speaker 1: who loved him, and only the Chris Colley who loved
Speaker 1: him right, but friends and family who loved him, all
Speaker 1: of who I just said would have helped him, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and got him help, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So he doesn't. So she was saying,
Speaker 1: how he doesn't really have any excuse justification, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And that that actually like hit like
Speaker 1: resonating with me, you know what I'm saying. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like reach out, go get help. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, If you need it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And let's not stigmatize mental health because mental illness is
Speaker 1: it's all the same. It's an illness like just like
Speaker 1: the common coal, just like any other illness, it's an illness,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that stigmatized one particular
Speaker 1: type of illness, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You hear me, Russ, absolutely.
Speaker 1: And so I'm not even sorry that almost made and
Speaker 1: then my tongue, I'm not even sorry that I almost
Speaker 1: was laid it because of that, you know, because that
Speaker 1: comes first, and it's that third and I'll say this
Speaker 1: real quick, right, A very reassuring experience and also a
Speaker 1: very another pleasant time. And because that, right, the town
Speaker 1: that's it's it's in Long Island, like one tunnel from
Speaker 1: where I'm at, and it's just a nice town. It's
Speaker 1: it's a Glen Oaks, right, and it's just a it's
Speaker 1: so beautiful, like the town and everybody there so honest
Speaker 1: and nice, right, And I like to contribute to that.
Speaker 1: So I'm so last week I'm coming from there right,
Speaker 1: walking down the street and and I find like a
Speaker 1: like a like an envelope and the mill come in.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, what happened to the millman? Like dropped
Speaker 1: the fault to the milmun's bag or something, and it
Speaker 1: was addressed to this address, and I know what checks
Speaker 1: look like this on a check in this envelope.
Speaker 2: Right, and.
Speaker 1: The actress was that of a building right across the
Speaker 1: street from when I was standing where I found this envelope.
Speaker 1: So I, yeah, two sixty third dashed something Hillside Avenue, right,
Speaker 1: and I go in there. It's like it's like it's
Speaker 1: like it's like three buildings, you know, like they're together,
Speaker 1: like the same building, like three businesses. Yeah, like a
Speaker 1: halal place and some smoothie place. And then they got
Speaker 1: and they got like, I don't know what it's like
Speaker 1: check cash in in place whatever it was, right, and
Speaker 1: so I gave it to the person like he assured me, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this is like, no, it's this is all
Speaker 1: I give to a correct person. And that's it. I left, right,
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's it's such a nice town. You know
Speaker 1: this that there. Then then I come back home to
Speaker 1: like where I live, Queens Village, Shadyville, the hood, right,
Speaker 1: and oh my god, let me just tell you man,
Speaker 1: like like I'm getting I'm like, I get off by
Speaker 1: a train station and I see the music at Pickpocketed
Speaker 1: and I'm like, my god, how could you stoop?
Speaker 4: Solow?
Speaker 1: You know, Oh my god, how you feeling right now?
Speaker 1: I'm getting over a cold. How you feeling?
Speaker 2: I'm good man, this this weather is so crazy.
Speaker 1: It was raining cats and dogs. I know, I stuff
Speaker 1: in a poodle.
Speaker 3: Mhm yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean we were at some you know, being over
Speaker 4: ninety degrees. Yes, a couple of days ago too, down
Speaker 4: the forty degrees last.
Speaker 1: Night, Like when I went to Brandon's house right to
Speaker 1: watch Mania, it was like nice and warm, right, I'm
Speaker 1: wearing like schwartz and stuff like that. And then by
Speaker 1: the time I'm leaving the I'm leaving his house right now,
Speaker 1: we call silence freezing cold.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, yeah, that's that's Stuff's crazy. It definitely
Speaker 4: will make you said.
Speaker 1: I'm wearing shoes. I'm like, I'm like slippers. I didn't
Speaker 1: wear shoes that were slippers. Yeah, but but yeah, man, alright,
Speaker 1: that's enough stolen. We're live right now. So already gave
Speaker 1: like my thoughts, uh real quick, give me like a
Speaker 1: quick overview as I pull up my website at shapiroo
Speaker 1: dot com of Russemania, you make like a quick synopsis
Speaker 1: what your thoughts were.
Speaker 3: Over Uh.
Speaker 4: I I've heard a lot of the complaints that people
Speaker 4: had about matches being too short and people getting more time,
Speaker 4: and the commercials. Like the first day, I didn't even
Speaker 4: notice the commercial. I didn't notice him. I didn't really
Speaker 4: get into the matches being too short, didn't even notice
Speaker 4: any of that.
Speaker 2: I was entertained by what was going on.
Speaker 4: The only thing that stood out to me night one
Speaker 4: at night two was the referees at times getting getting buried.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, you know.
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, I look and I see I think
Speaker 4: Seth Robbins out the ring and he's been out the
Speaker 4: ring for at least you know, two, two, three minutes,
Speaker 4: and the referees just at four and he never goes
Speaker 4: back in the ring, and the referee never starts counting anymore.
Speaker 2: You know, Brian Breaker, he comes down, I'm like.
Speaker 4: Where's the referee? The referee was in the ring counting?
Speaker 4: Why is he out of the ring now? You know,
Speaker 4: it's little things like that.
Speaker 1: And bro my reason for that right because was so
Speaker 1: fast through didn't see it. All he saw was a
Speaker 1: blur and selling his ribs or whatever it was. That's
Speaker 1: my explace.
Speaker 4: Why I can I can see him not seeing it,
Speaker 4: but why was the referee not in the ring anymore.
Speaker 1: Oh, he was checking on gun there? Why with look
Speaker 1: at table spot something like that, with gun through and
Speaker 1: stuff like a pedigun on table something like that.
Speaker 4: It was something, but he did he really had no
Speaker 4: reason to go outside the ring. Go out there, you
Speaker 4: check on him, and you get back in the ring.
Speaker 4: You know, we always see them go out there when
Speaker 4: there's a big bump outside the ring.
Speaker 2: But get back in the ring and do your job
Speaker 2: and count. I mean, there should have.
Speaker 4: Been a double DQ before it even got to the
Speaker 4: table spot because they've been out there for like five minutes.
Speaker 1: Since we're talking about referees not you know, calling stuff
Speaker 1: and not seeing things or seeing things not calling stuff. Right,
Speaker 1: let's just let's just fast all the way for to
Speaker 1: night at night two using the steel steps right in
Speaker 1: front of the referee. Who'say from me? Yes, Why wouldn't.
Speaker 4: I have zero clue in that one? Because and I
Speaker 4: heard Michael Cole say, well, the referee is showing some
Speaker 4: discussion right here.
Speaker 1: He said that.
Speaker 2: Michael Cole did say that the referee is showing some
Speaker 2: some discretion.
Speaker 3: However, come on, I get it.
Speaker 4: If you throw somebody into the stairs, it's part of
Speaker 4: the ring. But the minute you pick the stairs up,
Speaker 4: it's a weapon. Yes, right right, so it's you know,
Speaker 4: it's no longer part of the ring once you pick
Speaker 4: up the stairs and and so yeah that that should
Speaker 4: have been a d Q right there, and and for
Speaker 4: him to look at the referee and and do it anyway,
Speaker 4: you know, And he started out all right, you know,
Speaker 4: he rest of his counting, he slid back in the ring,
Speaker 4: He slid back out like okay, cool, we're gonna.
Speaker 2: Have a good match. And then he does that, and
Speaker 2: like what the hell? That that stood out to me,
Speaker 2: like he.
Speaker 1: Man, this, why why not? I'm being up? He's a rap.
Speaker 1: It's a sight while I find him because I better
Speaker 1: brandon five dollars to see him was gonna win or whatever?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a bad bet. I mean, there was
Speaker 4: no way to take that.
Speaker 3: You should have.
Speaker 2: Taken that one.
Speaker 1: Why why do you say that?
Speaker 4: I mean you even when you look at that, I
Speaker 4: mean that was this was Romans, this Romans win.
Speaker 1: So let's do something like that? Might saying that women.
Speaker 4: No, no, I mean you gotta, you gotta you really
Speaker 4: had to put a jolt into what was going on.
Speaker 4: Roman is the biggest star. He is the and they
Speaker 4: needed to put a jolt because ratings have been slipping.
Speaker 4: They and you can tell a lot more story with
Speaker 4: Roman right now than you can't a Punk, and and
Speaker 4: so the you had to go with Roman winning.
Speaker 2: And obviously.
Speaker 4: Here's here's where the believability in wrestling happens. To me, Right,
Speaker 4: if you stand aj Lee and Becky beside each other,
Speaker 4: would you believe.
Speaker 2: Without help or.
Speaker 4: Something, that aj Lee could beat her just in a
Speaker 4: straight up fight.
Speaker 1: I know where you're going with this guy, Say yes,
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 4: Okay, just because she's from Jersey, I mean I think,
Speaker 4: But no, I mean you could Punk. And granted I
Speaker 4: give Punk all the credit in the well, he looked
Speaker 4: like he was in the best shape he's been in
Speaker 4: in ten years, ten to fifteen years, like he he
Speaker 4: I really give him credit for taking it serious and
Speaker 4: getting in shape because he looked good last night. But
Speaker 4: you still like that version of Roman, like I cannot
Speaker 4: see Punk beating Roman. There was no believability in that
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 1: I'll say this real quick, right, I thought, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: like some some some some snowballs. Chance, maybe they were
Speaker 1: like even a score. Because in twenty thirteen, Roman did
Speaker 1: see him punk on Raw. No remember stats, but yeah
Speaker 1: remember that and rollmanrium six stool a heels part of
Speaker 1: Shield and was about to win Outlaws turned heel and
Speaker 1: call from the match.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no knowledge of that whatsoever, but.
Speaker 1: I think like the old old school night whatever they
Speaker 1: call it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, as a whole.
Speaker 2: I I was entertained.
Speaker 4: Like I said, I stayed off social media during the show.
Speaker 4: I was texting with two of my buddies throughout night
Speaker 4: one at night two watching the show, and I didn't
Speaker 4: get caught up into I didn't even realize how short
Speaker 4: the matches were. Like I looked up and I was like, wow,
Speaker 4: it's just after you know, it's just after ten o'clock
Speaker 4: and the show's over. Like that's all right, you know,
Speaker 4: and yeah, gudea. So I didn't notice how how short
Speaker 4: any of the matches were that people were complaining about.
Speaker 2: I'm like, to me, it's about.
Speaker 4: WWE has told you, especially the last couple of years,
Speaker 4: the way they've done the Hall of Fame, right, and
Speaker 4: they've had that new category for like moments, right that
Speaker 4: it's about moments, not headlocks. You know, it's not about
Speaker 4: the matches, because what's one of the greatest WrestleMania matches.
Speaker 2: Just throw one out there.
Speaker 4: Okay, can you tell me five things that happened in
Speaker 4: that match that were wrestling related outside of moments?
Speaker 1: Does table spots count?
Speaker 2: Sure? Go ahead.
Speaker 1: So Michael's throwing Musso on the table and not breaking
Speaker 1: the finish of course the ankle lock. So that's two spots.
Speaker 1: Uh is gonna doing a low blow in the ropes
Speaker 1: h Craig on the top. And I mean, I'm lying
Speaker 1: if I said I remember the specific spot by what happened.
Speaker 4: It's like there are there are certain spots that we remember.
Speaker 4: It's not like we remember the match and people are
Speaker 4: thinking like, oh, well, this is such a great match.
Speaker 2: A headlock is a headlock as a headlock.
Speaker 3: I don't need a he I don't need to see.
Speaker 4: A headlock for twenty minutes. Can you get the story
Speaker 4: told in the amount of time that you got it?
Speaker 4: Got got to tell the story.
Speaker 1: I remember we were joking. I think it was thirty
Speaker 1: last night and now, okay in the man was beginning right, Yes,
Speaker 1: this match twelve was long. We all said Roman's entry
Speaker 1: is gonna take a half hour, then take a half hour.
Speaker 1: Then you goat stays up a good ten minutes, then
Speaker 1: to Logs and hell Longs and yeah, but.
Speaker 4: They told both hats off to Roman and Punk Man.
Speaker 4: I thought they told a great story throughout. I mean,
Speaker 4: and the ending of it, right, the ending of it
Speaker 4: goes back to Roman's promo when he said you're old.
Speaker 4: Punk's body gave out on him, you know, I mean,
Speaker 4: we've seen him do that spot several times over the
Speaker 4: last couple of years, and when he got down to
Speaker 4: him and Roman doing it, he couldn't do it because his.
Speaker 2: Body gave out. He was old.
Speaker 4: They were telling the story and the punishment was too
Speaker 4: much for him. So, I mean, I thought it was
Speaker 4: a great story that they told throughout, and.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed the main event, but.
Speaker 4: I think I think out of the main events, it
Speaker 4: was probably one of the better main events over the.
Speaker 2: Last few years.
Speaker 1: Okay, real quick as you are.
Speaker 2: Recording, despite the referee, but go ahead, real.
Speaker 1: Quick as we're as we're recording right now. I just
Speaker 1: want to just a second ago, right, the wrestling in
Speaker 1: the Nerds podcast just dropped. Everybody stop us. It goes
Speaker 1: to that nothing the Nerds just came out just now,
Speaker 1: what's many forty we're talking about to also check it
Speaker 1: out real quick. What are you saying, you're just cutting
Speaker 1: off again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just and despite despite the referees, you know,
Speaker 4: I just I enjoyed that that main event. I mean,
Speaker 4: I go back tonight one. I actually enjoyed the match
Speaker 4: with Cody and Roman, Cody and Randy. Yeah, I enjoyed
Speaker 4: the match. I mean, people were screaming about Jelly Row
Speaker 4: being involved. I'm like, the match hadn't even started at
Speaker 4: that point.
Speaker 1: That was that was so bad. It was awesome.
Speaker 4: It was yeah, I mean him doing that little his
Speaker 4: little move or whatever. I'm like, he's not a wrestler,
Speaker 4: so he's not supposed to do it perfect. But I
Speaker 4: you know, I still I still like them getting you know, getting.
Speaker 2: Old boy out the way.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, he took him out the way and
Speaker 4: then he comes back. So I'm sure that there's gonna
Speaker 4: there's gotta be some little social media leak at some
Speaker 4: point of something backstage of him getting the referee outfit.
Speaker 4: There'll be something on social media as something that's so
Speaker 4: whether we got to watch the next unreal to see
Speaker 4: it happen or whatever. But he's you know, how he
Speaker 4: got the referee outfit to come back out there, and
Speaker 4: I really think you know, people are like, well, why
Speaker 4: why did Randy sit there in r KL because he
Speaker 4: counted too slow?
Speaker 1: So you have, yeah, good two things, right. I'm hoping
Speaker 1: that they show him fighting referee and him like taking
Speaker 1: to the closet, beat him up clothes. I hope that happens.
Speaker 1: I wanted to happen so badly. And number two is
Speaker 1: I hate to beat this guy right now. I hate
Speaker 1: to beat this guy right now, but I'm going to
Speaker 1: just because you do realize right that, like there's no
Speaker 1: reason why if he had counting three it'd be valid.
Speaker 1: He's not a referee, so see, so why is Randy mad?
Speaker 1: He's not a free to begin with.
Speaker 4: Hey, he's got TKL behind his back. They could have
Speaker 4: made it official. I mean TK put him in there.
Speaker 4: Nobody came out to stop him. That's the referee. Nobody
Speaker 4: came out there. Mean you could have saw foreign to
Speaker 4: Adam Pearce as he liked to call him, you know,
Speaker 4: some running out there or something.
Speaker 1: But we were talking about earlier, right, So how do
Speaker 1: you feel about involvements and creative.
Speaker 4: I honestly, honestly, I mean all, I think all that speculation,
Speaker 4: I don't think that they're involved in creative at all.
Speaker 4: I think there was nothing to do with it. I
Speaker 4: think that's just the internet rumor, uh, and how they're
Speaker 4: telling the.
Speaker 3: Story, right.
Speaker 4: So that's that's the way I feel with that as
Speaker 4: far as you know, t k Oh, I mean, I
Speaker 4: think they're ruining the w W because they're trying to
Speaker 4: make it too corporate and they're taking out their snatching
Speaker 4: out the lifeblood of what the w W is about,
Speaker 4: and it's about families.
Speaker 2: Then when you got corporate.
Speaker 4: Dollars sitting there, you get a whole different crowd, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean people were more entertained than there by watching
Speaker 4: the guy from the forty nine ers drink beers than actually,
Speaker 4: you know, what was going on in the ring, because
Speaker 4: you got the wrong type of people there, and then
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, he ca Overall, they're going to think, well,
Speaker 4: you know, whatever they did at the end worked to
Speaker 4: get that increase in ticket sales, because they bumped up
Speaker 4: almost you know, twelve thousand tickets in the last week.
Speaker 4: A lot of people did walk ups and bought you know,
Speaker 4: I think I heard Jonathan Coachman say that a friend
Speaker 4: of his bought a ticket in the third row for
Speaker 4: one hundred bucks for night one, an hour before the show.
Speaker 4: So he said that, he said when he looked that
Speaker 4: ticket up, when coach looked that ticket up, that as
Speaker 4: a comparison, that that ticket was six thousand dollars hm hmm, right,
Speaker 4: and he got it for one hundred bucks an hour
Speaker 4: before the show.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's not even bad. And for me, it's even
Speaker 1: bad FORMIA standards, right, how like how like how high
Speaker 1: thorough b that'd be like third row?
Speaker 3: I mean this is like you're.
Speaker 4: You're three back, not not third third section, three rows
Speaker 4: back from from the ring.
Speaker 1: Oh so you ran okay bad for one hundred bucks,
Speaker 1: you know, yes, good, that's a good deal.
Speaker 2: That's a real good deal.
Speaker 1: It's just you right, yeah, that's a that's a real
Speaker 1: good deal.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay.
Speaker 4: So I mean that's gonna be a lot of that
Speaker 4: going forward. You know, people are gonna sit there and
Speaker 4: wait to the last minute to buy these tickets just
Speaker 4: because you know they're pricing new people out. I mean,
Speaker 4: this card, if you would have sat there and done
Speaker 4: this same match under events, if you had this exact
Speaker 4: same card.
Speaker 2: The minute Mania.
Speaker 4: Was announced, it would have sold out in an hour
Speaker 4: and it really wouldn't have mattered. If they went back
Speaker 4: to Vegas two years in a row, they could have
Speaker 4: done it and it would have sold out in an hour.
Speaker 1: M hm, real quick. So uh, the pre match, the beginning,
Speaker 1: the middle, and the post match. Wait, give me your
Speaker 1: thoughts on the on the Cody versus Rainy Night one
Speaker 1: made events like everything about it.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 4: The story pre everything leading up to it.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a very good story.
Speaker 4: I love the entrances with with Cody and telling the
Speaker 4: story over time, getting down to.
Speaker 2: The ring, and the.
Speaker 4: Uh Pat McAfee coming out with with Randy and trying
Speaker 4: to be a little version of Paul and and then
Speaker 4: you get Jelly Roll's appearance, Like, yeah, as bad as
Speaker 4: that looked, you know, it was fine.
Speaker 2: I like.
Speaker 4: And then the thing that Jelly Roll said is now
Speaker 4: we get the one on one match that we wanted
Speaker 4: all along with no interference. That's what Jelly Roll said, said,
Speaker 4: he yelled that out. So I was fine with all
Speaker 4: of that. The match I thought was was was really decent.
Speaker 4: I thought the match was good. I just did not
Speaker 4: like the how they stayed outside the ring, saying, you know,
Speaker 4: it just it happened again with you know, taking all
Speaker 4: the credibility off the referee.
Speaker 2: In that match, and.
Speaker 4: You know, and if you just saw like two rookies
Speaker 4: do this, you know, they would have probably been shipped
Speaker 4: back to NXT.
Speaker 3: You know, by by.
Speaker 4: This morning, they'd have been back in NXT, if not gone.
Speaker 4: But when you got you know, veterans doing it, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: it took all the to me, it took all the
Speaker 4: credibility off the referee, and it's like, you know, why
Speaker 4: don't we just make it a street fight at that point.
Speaker 4: I know a lot of people were upset that Cody
Speaker 4: when Pat came back in the ring, that Cody didn't
Speaker 4: kick Pat in the going, But I'm like, no, he
Speaker 4: was saving that up for Randy because Randy was the
Speaker 4: one who kicked him first. You know, Cody seemed like
Speaker 4: he was getting a little bit more healish in his
Speaker 4: ways even with the kick.
Speaker 1: Like I was half choking that night a double turn
Speaker 1: mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seemed like they were going that way, but
Speaker 4: they didn't pull the trigger.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was it was interesting.
Speaker 3: I thought it was good. I mean, was it was it.
Speaker 2: A great match. I don't.
Speaker 3: It wasn't.
Speaker 2: It was entertaining to me, so like I got caught
Speaker 2: into it. I watched him watch.
Speaker 1: Well I feel about the post.
Speaker 4: Match, Oh, Randy kicking him in the head.
Speaker 3: It's like.
Speaker 4: You've seen Randy a few times think about doing it,
Speaker 4: think about doing.
Speaker 2: It, and then when he finally did it.
Speaker 3: It was like, ooh and uh, I was kind of surprised.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I was kind of surprised by it. I was
Speaker 4: kind of surprised they did it and that they're going
Speaker 4: to carry on the story.
Speaker 1: Okay, real quick, right, I'm trying to find a time
Speaker 1: signature on the Oh three means three eight minutes ago,
Speaker 1: so like thirty eight minutes ago as we were recording, right,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to post some official thirst seat radio
Speaker 1: on Instagram from Dirty World dot com and it's saying
Speaker 1: so the headline is TKO president Mark Shapiro confirms TTO
Speaker 1: has full control of w W Creative, spends lots of
Speaker 1: money to bring in stars and market ww right, and
Speaker 1: the caption is reading speaking at the University of Alabama,
Speaker 1: a student acts TKO president Mark Shapiro about to proceed
Speaker 1: overalliance on celebrities in WW do the TKO. Shapiro confirms
Speaker 1: that TKO has full control of WW creative and are
Speaker 1: responsible for the increased celebrity usage. He says he disagrees
Speaker 1: with the idea that it's a bad thing having these
Speaker 1: well we've spent him to say, is a good thing.
Speaker 1: Having these Hollywood tie ins and stars on the show
Speaker 1: is not new, but TKO is spending a lot of
Speaker 1: money to market WW now. Shapiro admits that spreading the
Speaker 1: WW product across multiple streaming services will chase long chase
Speaker 1: long time fans away, so he hold on a minute, admits,
Speaker 1: wait what. Shapiro admits that spreading the WW product across
Speaker 1: multiple streaming services will chase long time fans away, but
Speaker 1: he compares this to MLB bands who have to spend
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars across ten platforms. He says, this is
Speaker 1: just the way of the world.
Speaker 4: Hm hmm.
Speaker 1: We've built on this.
Speaker 4: I think it's a bunch of bs because we're not
Speaker 4: we're not MLB, we're not NFL, we're not in NBA.
Speaker 2: It's wrestling and and this stuff is.
Speaker 4: Fan fan generated. You know, you're only around because of
Speaker 4: the fans. You're not around because of these other other deals.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't like this at all. I think
Speaker 4: it's a bunch of crap. And yeah, it's it's just
Speaker 4: it doesn't it doesn't work.
Speaker 1: Brand because I was trying to say that hands are
Speaker 1: kind of tied because and this kind of confirms why
Speaker 1: I said, mh you know TQ, because they're a parent company,
Speaker 1: all right, so triple his hands are kind of tired.
Speaker 1: He's very limited because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's their call, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Well, oh man, I'm gonna have to go because I
Speaker 4: need to hop on another call.
Speaker 1: All right, go do that. I'm gonna go do other things,
Speaker 1: all right, you gotta go. Hey, all right, I say
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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