Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, are beautiful pricks, beautiful pricks. It's me Stephanie
Speaker 1: Wilder Taylor and I'm here with Cecily no blur mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: And we okay, we haven't. We've talked about a bunch
Speaker 1: of things because we spent some time on the phone
Speaker 1: this morning. One of the things we did not talk
Speaker 1: about was this episode. So macro notes, how did you
Speaker 1: feel about it? Hmmm.
Speaker 2: I didn't have a lot of big macro notes on
Speaker 2: this one because it was all over the place. You know,
Speaker 2: it does the thing that OC's doing this year, where
Speaker 2: it's like it's gonna go here, then it's gonna go here,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be here. It was hard to really like
Speaker 2: latch onto anything except I will just say that, you know,
Speaker 2: Shannon is not doing well. That would be my macrone
Speaker 2: She's not doing well. No, what are your macronotes on
Speaker 2: this one?
Speaker 1: I really liked this episode, and I agree with you
Speaker 1: that as a note taker, it was very difficult to
Speaker 1: keep up. But I thought the editors. I thought there
Speaker 1: were some really funny moments that the editors were clearly
Speaker 1: in on.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, like where Shannon is like in the forest
Speaker 2: and thinking about different things, and it just shows like
Speaker 2: little bubbles of her looking around at different bubbles for sure.
Speaker 1: Also, there was just one where they're all like kind
Speaker 1: of talking about Shannon not doing well, and then it
Speaker 1: pansa you see Shannon, and it's just she looks horrifyingly bad,
Speaker 1: like like her eyes just are so crazy puffy. You
Speaker 1: know that scene I'm talking about. They're like, yeah, Shannon
Speaker 1: is just like not seeming great, and then you just
Speaker 1: see Shannon and it's like worse than you could imagine.
Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, she's not doing well.
Speaker 2: One thing I will say I love about Shannon is
Speaker 2: she has never been afraid to look raw and dirty
Speaker 2: and not great on camera. She remembered the thing where
Speaker 2: she had gained a bunch of weight from menopause and
Speaker 2: she showed it. She took her shirt off and was
Speaker 2: in like a sports bra r trainer and it wasn't
Speaker 2: pretty and I wouldn't have done it, And I thought
Speaker 2: that was pretty awesome. And then you know, no makeup,
Speaker 2: Like she's like, legit now I say, no makeup. Also,
Speaker 2: she's had a deliciously delightful facelift, a few of them.
Speaker 1: Oh, Like, she's had a couple of face lifts.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, one, that's the whole, like the whole conversation
Speaker 2: this season. But also, her neck is amazing and I
Speaker 2: was going to direct message her and ask her how
Speaker 2: her neck is so perfect? That is that could be botox?
Speaker 2: You know people are botoxing their necks interesting and I'm
Speaker 2: all about it.
Speaker 1: Could I have botox like my upper arms, yes, to
Speaker 1: freeze them up so they don't jiggle.
Speaker 2: I think you can. I mean yoga is probably okay,
Speaker 2: let's talk about that then. So Macro note we haven't
Speaker 2: even talked about their confessional looks for some reason. I
Speaker 2: don't know why. I guess we just never really talk
Speaker 2: about the way people look. But we need to talk
Speaker 2: about Tamra for a second.
Speaker 1: Her tuxedo, her toito, and her arms are crazy. Now.
Speaker 2: She saw all this too, and that's why you know,
Speaker 2: there's this photo going around of her post surgery. So
Speaker 2: she had everything done. This happens a lot on Housewives.
Speaker 2: They watched their season and they're like, oh God, and
Speaker 2: then they go fix it. So she was posting all
Speaker 2: these photos of her all bruised and crazy. She looks
Speaker 2: like honestly that she she looks on alive she looks crazy.
Speaker 2: She's like coming home from the hospital when he got sick,
Speaker 2: when he got sick, and he's like laying in that
Speaker 2: river bed and he's all prey.
Speaker 1: You're not going to get Et references in a Housewives
Speaker 1: show from every podcast. Just know that, Know that, and appreciate.
Speaker 1: Appreciate what you're getting right now. Like when he wanders
Speaker 1: off and he's in and they find him and they're like,
Speaker 1: oh no, e T. Yes, and he's you know, his
Speaker 1: face and he looks like the pillers. What if E T?
Speaker 2: What if E T was just like a normal looking
Speaker 2: like alien and then got a bunch of fillers, And
Speaker 2: so what we think of is like, oh, that's.
Speaker 1: I guess what ET looks like.
Speaker 2: Extraterrestrial from that planet has had these like big wide cheeks.
Speaker 1: But those are just fillers. So when you meet ET's family,
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, they're actually kind of normal looking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like rounder faces, they don't have like a sideways face,
Speaker 1: and they're so mad. They're just like, yeah, Et does
Speaker 1: not represent us, Like Et is just very narcissistic and
Speaker 1: like very into his looks. Yeah, we get it, E T.
Speaker 1: Like it would be like if like like the lady.
Speaker 1: Who's that lady?
Speaker 2: Joscelyn? What's the cat? They called her the cat lady. Yes,
Speaker 2: if she got abducted and they studied her and they're like,
Speaker 2: I guess this is what humans are like.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: No no, But that's what Taramara has looked like over
Speaker 2: the past couple of months after she had all the
Speaker 2: surgery down. But yeah, she could use some yeah botus
Speaker 2: in the arms for sure. Yeah, in conclusion, because.
Speaker 1: Yes, But I mean, I'm just gonna say, I'm gonna say, well,
Speaker 1: I was going to say my arms like I would.
Speaker 1: Her arms are goal arms for me. They I think
Speaker 1: she looks amazing like I she does. Yes, I look
Speaker 1: like a granny if you see me in a tank top.
Speaker 1: And yet I still do it because I in my mind,
Speaker 1: I'm still twenty four. Me too, I were tanked. We
Speaker 1: can wear whatever we want. You know, there's a new
Speaker 1: show remember What Not to Wear, which is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite shows. I'm sure you loved it.
Speaker 2: Remember that show was Stacey London And so they they're
Speaker 2: coming out. They just got a new show and it's
Speaker 2: called where What the Fuck You Want?
Speaker 1: And I love it.
Speaker 2: That's really what it's called like where whatever the fuck
Speaker 2: you want?
Speaker 1: And are they going to teach people like how to
Speaker 1: work with the clothes they have, like what is it?
Speaker 2: Or just that there's no age lin it. I don't
Speaker 2: believe that either. I mean, you can wear what you want.
Speaker 2: I wore a cute thing like last year. I wore
Speaker 2: this like a like a little mini like kind of
Speaker 2: a skirt with a tank and a tie and whatever,
Speaker 2: and I felt so I got so many compliments and
Speaker 2: and you can wear Doc Martin, but you can wear
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter the age. Like you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know if you want to wear a Holly Hobby outfit,
Speaker 2: but that's.
Speaker 1: I do, right, Sure, I mean it's whatever your style.
Speaker 2: If you can rock that style and make it work
Speaker 2: on your body and it makes you happy and you
Speaker 2: look whatever, you feel great, you're gonna if you feel
Speaker 2: you look great.
Speaker 1: Well that's that's that's the problem. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: things I can't make work with my body, and I
Speaker 1: do it anyway, But.
Speaker 2: Like what you can make it?
Speaker 1: You look great. You're gorgeous. You're gorgeous girl, Thank you girl.
Speaker 1: I also don't think, like what do you think you
Speaker 1: couldn't wear?
Speaker 2: This is interesting.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't wear a miniskirt, but I've never
Speaker 1: been able to, so that's just that's my Maybe I shouldn't,
Speaker 1: but I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm sure, you know, like I'm short, so it helps
Speaker 2: my body, you know, so like I wear heels and
Speaker 2: then it makes me my legs look longer, and.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what this this conversation is going to
Speaker 1: come back later in this episode about Emily. So let's see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's David.
Speaker 1: So we opened. We opened the episode with Heather trying
Speaker 1: to convince Shannon, who does look like she's been hit
Speaker 1: by a mac truck. So like, put your face on,
Speaker 1: come to dinner, Come on, poor Shannon. Though I'm like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that she's done a lot of this.
Speaker 1: She's not taking any ownership.
Speaker 2: I get it, but it is she is having a meltdown,
Speaker 2: and I love the face on. Is you know two
Speaker 2: things put physically put your face on, right, physically put
Speaker 2: on your makeup, but also like you gotta the show
Speaker 2: must go on, says Heather.
Speaker 1: Right, but as we're going to find out, and you know,
Speaker 1: I think I'm alone. I think I'm alone in my
Speaker 1: I just don't that doesn't seem to be, and it
Speaker 1: won I think that Shannon and not get outside of
Speaker 1: her own brain, Like she cannot think about anybody else.
Speaker 1: She's just on a loop about Shannon and always as been,
Speaker 1: always has been, And I find it exhausting. I can't
Speaker 1: imagine being around her. And because if anybody, if they're
Speaker 1: talking about anything else, Shannon brings it back to Shannon's
Speaker 1: WONDERFU about that? And I think if I'm Alexis, First
Speaker 1: of all, if I'm Alexus, I'm a bad person. I
Speaker 1: fully get that there's nothing positive to say about Alexis.
Speaker 1: But if I'm Alexis, it's gonna be kind of hard
Speaker 1: to watch, especially and I watched.
Speaker 2: Watch What Happens, Yes, and so did I.
Speaker 1: Alexis was trying, like I do believe that Alexis shot
Speaker 1: a lot more stuff than they showed, Like this is editing,
Speaker 1: This is just pitting those two women against each other.
Speaker 1: And granted they brought Alexis on strictly because she's dating
Speaker 1: John Johnny Jay.
Speaker 2: Who she's engaged to now she flashed that ring. Listen
Speaker 2: and watch What Happens. It's things are rough all over. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not great, but you're right, it is editing, they
Speaker 2: are showing that. I mean, you could say, can you
Speaker 2: imagine if in our own lives, if we're having a conversation, Yeah,
Speaker 2: if you and I get riled up about something, yeah,
Speaker 2: like we if you just showed that and not the
Speaker 2: normal part of the conversation, like, yeah, you're gonna look crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Lexi does not like Shannon for understandable reasons.
Speaker 2: But we don't like Lexi because all she ever does
Speaker 2: is care about like the guy that she's with and
Speaker 2: whatever they say, which is really annoying.
Speaker 1: It it's being terrible. She's being terrible. But yeah, but
Speaker 1: to me, and here's my super unpopular opinion, I believe,
Speaker 1: I believe, and no one else believes. So again, I
Speaker 1: know I'm alone in this, but I believe that that
Speaker 1: what's that Shannon did borrow money. I don't think he
Speaker 1: just gave her that much money.
Speaker 2: I don't think you're alone in I think we all
Speaker 2: think that.
Speaker 1: No. I think most people think that it was a gift.
Speaker 1: But also I think that you know, and that he's
Speaker 1: being really petty and now that they're not together, he
Speaker 1: wants his money back. I don't think so, and a
Speaker 1: lot of people do feel that she spent all the
Speaker 1: money in the relationships, so he does kind of owe
Speaker 1: it to her. But I just don't think to me,
Speaker 1: it just doesn't work that way. I don't think you
Speaker 1: get to go like, well, I spent a lot of
Speaker 1: money on you even though I shouldn't have, so therefore
Speaker 1: you owe this money to me.
Speaker 2: It's tricky because he's so unlikable. Like did you see
Speaker 2: him in the audience of Watch What Happens? He's really
Speaker 2: pretty awful. He's good looking. I'm gonna say something crazy.
Speaker 2: I think Johnny j is a good looking guy. I'll
Speaker 2: give him that. Not bad looking for like an Orange
Speaker 2: County you know, he's an Orange County dude who would
Speaker 2: never like look twice at us, that guy mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I mean we can see what is he's money chasing.
Speaker 2: He's probably trumper. I mean, like he's not he's not
Speaker 2: my favorite. But I just think he's just so vile.
Speaker 2: I just think he's so And I don't believe Alexus
Speaker 2: for one second when she told Andy Cohen, who by
Speaker 2: the way, should not have been hosting that last night
Speaker 2: with his sore throat.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was crazy. It was so awful.
Speaker 1: If anybody watched that part.
Speaker 2: Also, he shouldn't just be doing any of this. Andy
Speaker 2: Cohen should never have been the face of the show. No,
Speaker 2: they should have had somebody else. But okay, it's his show. Fine,
Speaker 2: But I think she said what was the thing that
Speaker 2: she said about, Oh that Johnny said, I will pay
Speaker 2: you your salary if you don't do the show. I'll
Speaker 2: double the salary. First off, that never happened. He never
Speaker 2: said that. I don't believe that for a second.
Speaker 1: I kind of do because I think it's like a
Speaker 1: weird thing to make up because.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, no, because it makes him look She's trying
Speaker 2: to say, oh, he's not a whore. Remember back when
Speaker 2: it was what's her face? Gretchen and somebody else both
Speaker 2: dated Slade or whatever who was awful and he just
Speaker 2: really wanted to be on the show and was making money.
Speaker 2: It was the same kind of thing. I think he's
Speaker 2: so she was just trying to say, oh no, no,
Speaker 2: it's not about being on the show. He's not like that. No,
Speaker 2: he paid me, he said he'd pay me. Not to
Speaker 2: Why then, why did Alexis want to do the show
Speaker 2: so badly?
Speaker 1: What is she?
Speaker 2: What is her just to bug Shannon, Like, what does
Speaker 2: she need to be on the show for then if
Speaker 2: he was, if he has so much money, which he doesn't,
Speaker 2: and if he has so much money that he could
Speaker 2: have doubled her salary and was just going to give
Speaker 2: it to her straight up, which is already weird, Like here,
Speaker 2: let me transfer this into your account. Then why does
Speaker 2: he need to sue Shannon for this money?
Speaker 1: I don't think he does. I think he's horrible. This
Speaker 1: is not me, I'm not I am not like, see,
Speaker 1: this is how I get myself in trouble because I'm
Speaker 1: I'm absolutely one hundred percent not defending Oh I know
Speaker 1: I am or Alexis for any of this. But what
Speaker 1: I just find crazy is that she cannot stop. She's
Speaker 1: also trying to change the narrative. So yes, I sort
Speaker 1: of feel like totally he does have a right. She
Speaker 1: just wants him to like kind of go away and
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna get to this part with a
Speaker 1: non disparage and all that. But it's just it's some
Speaker 1: I just find I just find Shannon to be also
Speaker 1: incredibly unlikable. She is, and I feel back for her.
Speaker 1: I guess I feel like, yeah, she has a horrible picker.
Speaker 1: But she's been like this since season one. She's never
Speaker 1: been different. She's always been completely unstable. She's very defensive,
Speaker 1: she blames everybody but herself, and it's just weird, kind
Speaker 1: of mean.
Speaker 2: Let's not forget this. And I noticed that this episode too.
Speaker 2: You know, she always acts like this victim. She's constantly
Speaker 2: she's totally a narcissist. I completely agree with you. And
Speaker 2: when any chance she has to get ahead. You know
Speaker 2: how those people that are like I was bullied and
Speaker 2: then as soon as they're in the cool group, then
Speaker 2: they're the bully. Yes, she's like that too. She's really mean.
Speaker 2: She's ruthlessly mean. So I don't forget that either.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, okay, But anyway, so Katie and Jen
Speaker 1: are talking and Katie's like, yeah, so Shannon found out
Speaker 1: about the video and she's not doing so hot and
Speaker 1: that this is the part I was talking about. Then
Speaker 1: it cuts to Shannon and it just looks like she's
Speaker 1: had eye surgery. She's just like enoughe. I was like,
Speaker 1: she cannot go out like this. This glam squad is
Speaker 1: not getting paid enough money to try to fix her up. No,
Speaker 1: I agree, And then she was like, yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: excited about going.
Speaker 2: I'm not really well. Obviously she needs money. Obviously she's
Speaker 2: fulfilling these obligations because later in the episode where she
Speaker 2: didn't she was all sick and didn't want to go
Speaker 2: to the forest for the sound.
Speaker 1: Bath or whatever.
Speaker 2: I think she was drunk, but going, I think she
Speaker 2: was drunk too. She was hungover and probably still drying.
Speaker 1: She was still drunk. I think she's drunk.
Speaker 2: In her room, stumbled in. She was still sleeping. But
Speaker 2: then she literally said the words which they left in
Speaker 2: the editing. And I know this is later, but she said,
Speaker 2: I forgot I was supposed to be here, like something
Speaker 2: like what it read to me was producers are like,
Speaker 2: you're not getting paid for this episode if you don't
Speaker 2: get up and go right now. And I wish they
Speaker 2: would show that because I'm pretty sure that's what happened,
Speaker 2: because she really shouldn't have been there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then she got herself out of it early.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: So then so then I Alexis and Emily talk and
Speaker 2: now I'm liking Emily this episode. I will give you
Speaker 2: that same.
Speaker 1: I like her too. I like her too. I just
Speaker 1: I guess I like the wrong. I like Emily. I
Speaker 1: like Heather. I love Heather obvious reasons. I like Heather, right, same,
Speaker 1: So okay, so those two talk and Emily Alexis. Emily's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so Shannon found out about the video and she's like
Speaker 1: really upset, and then Alexis goes, Okay, well there's another
Speaker 1: side to the story and everyone doesn't need to feel
Speaker 1: sorry for Shannon, which is like, okay, you're not. That's
Speaker 1: also not scoring any points, Like can I also say
Speaker 1: that Alexi is reading she's giving in this scene, she's
Speaker 1: giving like Lady of the Night in a DS movie,
Speaker 1: like what she's going to dinner with her friends at
Speaker 1: like some kind of you know, they're not it's not
Speaker 1: an even club night soring like she looks ridiculous, but
Speaker 1: like you know in that in eighties movies where they're
Speaker 1: like okay, and you'll be the prostitute, which I'm gonna
Speaker 1: call it that because that's what they called it in
Speaker 1: the eighties, right, I understand sex worker, Lady of the night, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's but you know, and so even in those movies,
Speaker 1: even in Pretty Woman, I'm like, no prostitute dresses like that.
Speaker 1: That's why I was always so upset with that scene
Speaker 1: with Julia Roberts, because like, who would go into a
Speaker 1: store in Beverly Hill's dress like that?
Speaker 2: Of course they should kick her out. She looks insane.
Speaker 2: I walking syphilis stem I'm sorry, but it just is ridiculous,
Speaker 2: and that's a that's a costume problem. So Lexi, like, Lexi,
Speaker 2: this is a reality show. You get to wear whatever
Speaker 2: you want. Why are you wearing that?
Speaker 1: I mean it is she is trying to put something
Speaker 1: forth about herself that you're right, is not working, which
Speaker 1: is why later on I appreciated Heather's fact show. It
Speaker 1: was like normal love the show. I wanted half of everything.
Speaker 2: Same, even Emily's outfit, which she was upset about.
Speaker 1: But I get that so cute. Okay, she's gorgeous. I know,
Speaker 1: so Heather. So meanwhile at the bar, Heather, Shannon, and
Speaker 1: Tamra sit down. Heather orders of course, and I know
Speaker 1: you're now going to see it every like feel it?
Speaker 1: Ever see it. I'll have an espresso martini. They cannot
Speaker 1: one episode cannot go by without somebody ordering an espresso martini.
Speaker 2: You know, somebody, one of them's got to be developing
Speaker 2: that drink. They're putting their name on it for sure.
Speaker 1: Yes, right, So then Shannon, I think, orders the same,
Speaker 1: and then they look I mean, not Shannon, Tamra, and
Speaker 1: then they look at Shannon, and Shannon does I'll I'll
Speaker 1: have a Belvedere's soda. So okay, and now I'm going
Speaker 1: to surprise you with this opinion. So Tamra is scandalized,
Speaker 1: as she is in every episode that Shannon drinks. It's like, Tamra,
Speaker 1: Shannon drinks, that's what she's gonna do. She's not sober.
Speaker 1: She's not getting sober right now, right, go to Alan
Speaker 1: on camera. So Tamra is to the camera like, ah,
Speaker 1: I can't believe she brazenly ordered a drink, and then
Speaker 1: I wrote down I'm gonna push back, like, okay, first
Speaker 1: of all, Tamra, you're drinking. You guys are at like listen,
Speaker 1: I am in recovery. So I do find myself being
Speaker 1: judgmental of the fact that, like, wow, I can't believe
Speaker 1: that wasn't Shannon's bottom. But it wasn't. And that's so
Speaker 1: now I'm kind of on what's her name, Gina's side
Speaker 1: on this. It's like she's not sober and it's none
Speaker 1: of your fucking business, Like, let it go. Who cares
Speaker 1: what she's doing. She's not your designated driver. You're just
Speaker 1: depending on her for a ride. She's not babysitting your
Speaker 1: baby right now. She's not doing in any way. Her
Speaker 1: drinking is not going to affect you unless it does,
Speaker 1: and then you can make a complaint if she gets
Speaker 1: drunk and acts crazy and starts with people, then sure,
Speaker 1: go to do an interview and say, like it was
Speaker 1: fucked up, Like this girl obviously has a drinking problem,
Speaker 1: and every time she drinks there's a problem, but like's not,
Speaker 1: She's just having a drink, So you gotta let her
Speaker 1: do her thing.
Speaker 2: Whoa, this is okay? First off, I when you said,
Speaker 2: I actually agree with you. Know I love Gina more
Speaker 2: and more even this episode. I'm so in love with
Speaker 2: We gotta get Gina to be our friend. Yes, I
Speaker 2: love Gina so freaking much. I can't stand it. So
Speaker 2: everything she says I think is great. And this whole season, however,
Speaker 2: gonna push back because what I wrote down was Tama
Speaker 2: is actually making sense. It's not funny that we come
Speaker 2: from like different angles and like I do drink and
Speaker 2: I'm but you know what it is is that I'm
Speaker 2: as someone who I drink, but I'm also very sensitive
Speaker 2: and probably very judgmental if I think people drink too much,
Speaker 2: So I'm very controlling about other people's My whole thing
Speaker 2: is like why can't you just have one or two?
Speaker 2: So I get judgmental too, which is where Tama is
Speaker 2: with Shannon, because we know what she orders is the
Speaker 2: one we see, but there's like ten before that.
Speaker 1: Oh, there is no doubt that Shannon is a bad alcoholic,
Speaker 1: And later later in the episode, she even says she
Speaker 1: she makes a comment about how well, I you know,
Speaker 1: I had a really bad day. I had a day
Speaker 1: having a drink. And it's like, well, okay, that's that's
Speaker 1: not healthy relationship with one and one Yes, and you
Speaker 1: supposedly went to this whole treatment center. I would think
Speaker 1: that would be the first thing they would talk to
Speaker 1: you about, is like drinking at your problems and like
Speaker 1: that's you know, she clearly has a problem, but Tamra's
Speaker 1: not going to fix it by she's selling out, by
Speaker 1: controlling yea.
Speaker 2: And being awful. I'm not a fan of Tamra, but
Speaker 2: in that moment, I was like I got to kind
Speaker 2: of get it. So then Emily as again we go
Speaker 2: back to that scene with Lexi and she's like, you're
Speaker 2: really you're being mean. I'm loving Emily here. Of course,
Speaker 2: Lexi's I just wrote a C word the cues as
Speaker 2: you would say, yep, okay, but go ahead.
Speaker 1: This is this is the part this is sorry but
Speaker 1: what I said later in the episode, but it was
Speaker 1: right here where Shannon where they look at Shannon about
Speaker 1: ordering a drink and she goes, it's been a day yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, okay, wrong reason to drink, Shannon.
Speaker 1: But okay, yeah, okay, so go ahead. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: it's glacious, mean and dirty.
Speaker 2: Right, and that's great that. Then Lexi does do a
Speaker 2: good thing where she's like, well, I guess I just
Speaker 2: won't go. She's all dressed up in her little crazy
Speaker 2: outfit and she's like, I'll stay back and I just
Speaker 2: wrote good good.
Speaker 1: Well, and so does Emily goes, okay, bye, Well she isn't.
Speaker 2: I don't think she likes her. No, I don't think
Speaker 2: they're friends, which makes me like Emily a little bit more.
Speaker 2: I don't think I could be friends with Emily for
Speaker 2: some for different reasons, mainly Shane. I mean, we do
Speaker 2: have to still remember that she is married to Shane,
Speaker 2: and that's a choice. It is, and it's a choice
Speaker 2: that she continues to make. I mean, I see why
Speaker 2: she and Gina are friends. I see that world because
Speaker 2: they're the smart ones. Heather as well, Like I could
Speaker 2: see that being a little posse. I don't know why
Speaker 2: Heather's friends with who she's friends with. Maybe she's just
Speaker 2: known them longer. She Yeah, we'll get to that. Okay,
Speaker 2: So Shannon, So but.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you because during that part, so uh, basically,
Speaker 1: Alexis is like, well, hey, if I was being dirty
Speaker 1: or mean, the videos would be out already. And I
Speaker 1: was like, well, that's actually not true at all, because, right,
Speaker 1: the whole reason you're being dirty about it is because
Speaker 1: you're like blackmailing her. Yeah, So I don't know how.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't get that logic. I don't
Speaker 1: get the logic of like, if we're being mean, we
Speaker 1: would just release the videos. No, what you're being mean
Speaker 1: about is the threat of we're going to release these
Speaker 1: horrible videos we have unless you pay back the money. Right,
Speaker 1: That's the that's the mean part. You're hanging it over
Speaker 1: her head.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say, and this might not be very nice.
Speaker 2: I think she's dumber than she is mean. I think
Speaker 2: Lexi's too dumb to be mean. I think she follows
Speaker 2: whatever the guy says, whatever Jim said, now, whatever John says.
Speaker 2: I don't think she even understands what's going on. She's
Speaker 2: just like she she maybe even believes what she's saying,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Yes, I don't even think
Speaker 2: she's that.
Speaker 1: She's she's so much.
Speaker 2: I'm not a fan except for her as a mother,
Speaker 2: and I like that, which we'll get to.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, all right, so I have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Shannon shares that she offered to pay. Is
Speaker 2: this where it comes in?
Speaker 1: And then Emily arrives at the bar with Gina and
Speaker 1: they tell Shannon, hey, like, we tried to talk to
Speaker 1: Alexis you know right? And that's when Shannon's like, I
Speaker 1: offered them money. Okay, but they won't agree to a
Speaker 1: non disparage clause. Okay, this is what does that mean?
Speaker 1: We tell me what that means. I'm saying, a non disparaged,
Speaker 1: non disparage clause means that you you're agreeing to the
Speaker 1: terms like you're going to pay the money, but you
Speaker 1: have to agree to not say anything bad about the
Speaker 1: other person to the media. So okay, you're not allowed
Speaker 1: to disparage the other person. You can't go on a
Speaker 1: podcast and talk shit about them. But here's the problem
Speaker 1: with that. Usually that kind of thing works if you're
Speaker 1: in control, Like if you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: she's not in the driver's seat, she can't demand she's
Speaker 1: She's like, okay, i'll pay you back what you're suing
Speaker 1: me for, but here's my terms. The problem is she
Speaker 1: doesn't get to have terms he's in And this is
Speaker 1: where I was like, you can't be that dumb.
Speaker 2: But then let him sue. There's not gonna they're not
Speaker 2: gonna win. She's allowed to say whatever she wants about him.
Speaker 2: If he can't, I mean, can he really prove like.
Speaker 1: She doesn't want the videos to come out. This whole
Speaker 1: thing is she's saying she's crying constantly because she's saying, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pay him a penny. It's the principle
Speaker 1: of the thing. I don't owe him that money. It
Speaker 1: was a gift. Okay, Well, well he's suing you, he
Speaker 1: must have some leg to stand on if you don't
Speaker 1: want to be suitor, or then get your lawyer, show
Speaker 1: your proof, Show any text where he said, don't worry
Speaker 1: about it. I'm just right helping. There has to be
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but it's there. None of this can be
Speaker 1: completely nonverbal, Like, it can't be completely verbal. It can't be.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that he was like, I want to
Speaker 1: gift you with a facelift, So I'm going to make
Speaker 1: some deposits some.
Speaker 2: But you could just pay that and still be able
Speaker 2: to talk shit. But here's the question, here's the big question.
Speaker 2: What is what do we think so if the video,
Speaker 2: let's talk about this video, because I don't think we
Speaker 2: have we really think it's her like purposely she's so
Speaker 2: drunk that she like floors the gas towards John Jansen's daughter,
Speaker 2: because that is that's not good, Like that might be
Speaker 2: something that if we see that, I mean, if we
Speaker 2: already we already know it, because they're already saying they
Speaker 2: already said, what's on the video? So I don't even
Speaker 2: know why it matters, But I guess if it's like,
Speaker 2: is it so bad that we're gonna watch and go
Speaker 2: like Shannon's going to get kicked off the show. That's
Speaker 2: why Emily's like, give him what he wants, just give
Speaker 2: him what he wants.
Speaker 1: Well, I think they were saying, give him what he
Speaker 1: wants so this whole thing can go away. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if they knew that before the video.
Speaker 1: I think I think that Shannon doesn't remember. Well, I
Speaker 1: think it's just she I think what it is is,
Speaker 1: you know, there's pictures of Shannon after the accident, but
Speaker 1: I do think it's probably embarrassed if it's video of
Speaker 1: her being drunk and getting behind the wheel of the car.
Speaker 2: I think Shannon knows that that's just not going to
Speaker 2: look good. Like you've already seen it on TMZ photos
Speaker 2: of it. We've seen her the picture of how By.
Speaker 1: Right, but we haven't seen video right of her getting
Speaker 1: behind the wheel of the car or you know, revving
Speaker 1: it up. That's scary, not like seeing. And also she's
Speaker 1: saying she's claiming that she doesn't remember, so she blacked out,
Speaker 1: so she doesn't know what she's going to see on
Speaker 1: this video. She's scared. I don't think it's right. I
Speaker 1: think it is blackmail. I think she it's fucked up.
Speaker 1: And you know, she if she wanted to, she could
Speaker 1: call his bluff. But she doesn't want to call his
Speaker 1: bluff because she doesn't. She doesn't she wants it to
Speaker 1: go away. She doesn't. But here's the thing. You don't
Speaker 1: get to have it just go. You don't get to
Speaker 1: go like, well, all right, fine, I'll pay you the
Speaker 1: money that you say I owe you, but now you're
Speaker 1: not allowed to talk about me. This is where I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, but but John, what's in it for
Speaker 1: him to agree to that? Right if and on watch
Speaker 1: what happens, and I'm talking out of my ass right now,
Speaker 1: I get that this is a lot of people are
Speaker 1: going to disagree with me a lot. But here's what
Speaker 1: I was just in my estimation. If John Janssen feels
Speaker 1: for whatever reason and he's fucked up and he's a
Speaker 1: narcissist and whatever, but if he feels like this bitch
Speaker 1: is talking about me to the press constantly on a
Speaker 1: TV show, saying things about me like I'm not like
Speaker 1: screw that. I have a right to defend myself if
Speaker 1: that's what he's thinking. And so it's weird to me
Speaker 1: that Shannon is so put out by the fact that
Speaker 1: like he won't sign the non disparage but I agree
Speaker 1: with him where but you've been disparaging him for the
Speaker 1: whole season. You've called him a monster, you said that
Speaker 1: you pay for it. Like, I don't know how she
Speaker 1: thinks that she gets to say all this stuff and
Speaker 1: now he doesn't get to say anything.
Speaker 2: I don't think he can say stuff. I don't think
Speaker 2: he can sue for that. That's you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That's where I'm like, people say, shit, she's she's you know,
Speaker 2: went through.
Speaker 1: So he's not suing for that though, he's not suing
Speaker 1: for her disparaging him. But he's not suing for that.
Speaker 1: He's suing for his money. But I think and he
Speaker 1: but he gets to say, I, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: sign a document. What's in it for him to sign
Speaker 1: the document?
Speaker 2: He gets his money? Well, he gets his money that
Speaker 2: he says that he's owed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he doesn't care enough. He hates her, he
Speaker 1: hates her, he's mad that she's said all this shit
Speaker 1: about him and emasculated him. Whatever's in his mind. My
Speaker 1: whole point is like not at this point, like not
Speaker 1: taking sides, just logistically, logically, what Why would he Why
Speaker 1: would she be so sure that he would sign that?
Speaker 1: Why she of course he's gonna be like, fuck you.
Speaker 1: You can't just talk shit about me and I can't
Speaker 1: respond to get my money back, like I'll take you
Speaker 1: a court. Then let's look at this.
Speaker 2: Shannon doesn't make great choices. One of the ways we
Speaker 2: know that is that she's wearing a full on an
Speaker 2: Taylor Loft. We haven't even talked about her confessional looks.
Speaker 2: That's the grand that it's not great, like trying to
Speaker 2: be Chanelle looking.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's oh my god.
Speaker 2: There's an episode of The Simpsons where Marge bought one
Speaker 2: Chanelle dress and she wore every day because she was
Speaker 2: so excited. She got like a vintage Chanelle and that
Speaker 2: it reminded me of that. Yeah, it looks very and
Speaker 2: believe me, I know that because I also had a
Speaker 2: similar outfit like that at one point when I you know,
Speaker 2: I get it. I'm not putting it down. It wasn't
Speaker 2: my best look, and I you know, it's something I
Speaker 2: got rid of. And Shannon, if you're listening, it's not
Speaker 2: that's not what we're doing.
Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people are doing that, So maybe
Speaker 1: is that back in style because because Emily was fully
Speaker 1: doing that too. Emily had like a fake like a
Speaker 1: maybe real Chanel. But maybe that's back in style and we're.
Speaker 2: Just behind it kind of rocks it more though. I
Speaker 2: think it's, you know what, it comes back to Stacian
Speaker 2: what's his name? Uh, what's his name?
Speaker 1: Where? Whatever the fuck you want? Yeah? Yeah, where are
Speaker 1: what you want?
Speaker 2: And so we're just going to say, like, maybe we
Speaker 2: can do better on that one, but you know whatever. Okay,
Speaker 2: So they had a dinner. Alexis is defending I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: Tamra is defending Alexis, which really bothered me because Alexis
Speaker 2: made her life hell and she's acting like she they didn't.
Speaker 2: She's the one who gave her the name Jesus Jugs right,
Speaker 2: which I always love.
Speaker 1: And then we hear we is this where she said, uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: well we got together and she told me something really emotional.
Speaker 1: So and we're now we're bonded. Yes, now we're good,
Speaker 1: which I can tack. Us.
Speaker 2: I figured out what it was. I was sure that
Speaker 2: it was Jim related. It was her ex husband I
Speaker 2: think was somewhat abusive. This is what I put together
Speaker 2: from maybe Reddit.
Speaker 1: Uh huh. I just looked up some stuff.
Speaker 2: And I think that Jim, we know that he was
Speaker 2: emotionally abusive at least, and I think they've bonded on that.
Speaker 1: That's what I think it was. I could be wrong that.
Speaker 2: Karen excuses herself for a second, and then you just
Speaker 2: see her drunkenly yelling at gen about Johnny j just
Speaker 2: drunkenly telling she's drunk. At this point, Shannon's drunk. She's
Speaker 2: not just having a drink for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1: And then I got a wonder as a judgmental person,
Speaker 1: I guess, like, is she doing all that in front
Speaker 1: of everybody? Or is she running off to the bar
Speaker 1: and drinking. But I feel like the cameras would follow her.
Speaker 1: They would follow her. She probably has she might have
Speaker 1: them in her person.
Speaker 2: And I hate to say it, but like, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I think she got pretty drunk before she even got there.
Speaker 2: She probably has a pretty high tolerance at this point.
Speaker 2: So by the time she orders, you know, it's a thing.
Speaker 2: It's awful. It's awful for her, it's probably awful for
Speaker 2: everyone around her. But then she comes back all lighthearted,
Speaker 2: She's like, can we just have a good time and
Speaker 2: stop talking about John Jansen and then immediately starts talking
Speaker 2: about John Jansen again.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then that's when I wrote, Okay, okay, all
Speaker 2: all everything aside, who does who did Shannon's neck?
Speaker 1: Because it does look amazing. Also, I think we're past
Speaker 1: this part, but I wanted to ask. So they do
Speaker 1: this flashback to when, oh, when John Janssen is out,
Speaker 1: like when they're all when back when they were a
Speaker 1: couple and John is there at dinner and John I
Speaker 1: think it's is it Tara? Who's who is she with it?
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, so, like, are you gonna get married? Remember?
Speaker 1: And he's like and he says, it's a flashback, and
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, Shannon's I've never loved anyone the way
Speaker 1: of the way I love Shannon, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. And it was so like he sounded like
Speaker 1: a complete robot. He's like, yeah, I've never loved anyone
Speaker 1: the way I love Shannon.
Speaker 2: He's so freaking full of shit and I just can't
Speaker 2: stand him. And I'm so like, I think it doesn't
Speaker 2: I know what you're saying. It doesn't make Shannon good
Speaker 2: just because he's bad. But I think in this case,
Speaker 2: I'm just sow team Shannon against Johnny Jay. But it's
Speaker 2: not going to help her. It's not going to help her.
Speaker 2: If she wins against him, she's never gonna get so like,
Speaker 2: she's not gonna get the help. No, she's not gonna
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 1: It'll just be something else. It'll just be another situation
Speaker 1: where she you know, I don't know, I just maybe
Speaker 1: maybe Lena, what when you don't like something in somebody else,
Speaker 1: maybe it's because you don't like it in yourself. So
Speaker 1: maybe there's something going on with me that I see
Speaker 1: myself and it, you know, bugs me.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe I don't see it Shannon in you,
Speaker 2: but I know what you're saying I do. Then Shannon
Speaker 2: tries to.
Speaker 1: Make a joke. She's like, let's talk about Gina's YaST.
Speaker 2: Infection or whatever. Which Gina, because Gina's a normal, healthy
Speaker 2: human laughs at that doesn't freak out.
Speaker 1: Yep, everyone laughs.
Speaker 2: So then okay, So then Lexi and Heather chat and
Speaker 2: Heather tells Lexi like, well, what happened? I was just
Speaker 2: stuck in my room for thirteen hours because I didn't
Speaker 2: go out with you guys, And Heather's like, yeah, everybody
Speaker 2: got pretty wasted, which is also mind blowing to me.
Speaker 2: So they're all up in Shannon's business all the time,
Speaker 2: but they got so wasted that Tamera stuck her finger
Speaker 2: up Emily's butthole. You guys, I'm not making this up.
Speaker 2: They mentioned it a couple times. What you didn't catch that? No,
Speaker 2: you show a flashback of that happening, and then they
Speaker 2: talk about it a couple of times. They talk about
Speaker 2: it here, and then they talk about it at a
Speaker 2: different time, and they talk about it with one of
Speaker 2: the people that they're it was either when they were
Speaker 2: baking or whatever. They're like, yeah, that happened, So that happened. Okay,
Speaker 2: I love the things that we miss sometimes. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: so weird. Yeah if I just dreamt that, that was
Speaker 2: some weird dream and I'm like, no, Stephanie, they showed it,
Speaker 2: so they didn't really show it, but they did talk
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm I'm like either behind in where
Speaker 1: my notes are because are we talking about Okay, Katie.
Speaker 2: And Jen talking, Well, then it goes into that, so
Speaker 2: but before that, well, well, no, Katie and Jen, are
Speaker 2: you talking about still at the restaurant?
Speaker 1: I've moved on now, I moved on. Yeah, Alexis, I
Speaker 1: have Alexis and Heather talking about the day's plans.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm still trying to make the Heather Gate thing happen.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's yeah. Katie's just like, you know, things are
Speaker 1: too focused off of me, So I think I should
Speaker 1: have a talk with Heather. And Jen's like why, and
Speaker 1: Katie goes, well, I tried at the Traders party, but
Speaker 1: she refused to make it a storyline about me. But
Speaker 1: I really would like to blame Gina for.
Speaker 2: All this, trying to always throw Gina under the bus
Speaker 2: and she's lying. I believe Gina one hundred percent. He
Speaker 2: He's so full of shit. Although I like this one
Speaker 2: line one of them says, can we just can we
Speaker 2: get through the sound bath? I thought that was funny.
Speaker 2: It would be a good title can we just get
Speaker 2: through the sound Bath thing?
Speaker 1: So this is where basically Jen looks Is to At
Speaker 1: looks at Cameron just goes this is a losing battle.
Speaker 1: She girl needs to let it go, but she's not
Speaker 1: going to. Yeah. So then Shannon's still in bed at
Speaker 1: twelve thirty, uh, and everyone goes for their activity different activities,
Speaker 1: so some of the girls are making biscuits right.
Speaker 2: Heather, Gina, Emily and Lexi are making this right.
Speaker 1: And Heather and Katie and Jen go to do nature
Speaker 1: and they're going to engage their senses. And you had
Speaker 1: to have been watching this going. Stephanie hates this.
Speaker 2: Well, I just I hate it too, because I don't
Speaker 2: like activities. I don't like the forced activity. I just
Speaker 2: never like the leaders for these activities either. They're always
Speaker 2: trying to steal focus. They're always like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this is my big I'm on the Real Housewives, trying
Speaker 2: to get in like a funny line. Do you know
Speaker 2: one of my I have a friend did you ever
Speaker 2: watch Housewives Dallas?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: So I have a friend who runs used to run
Speaker 2: the yogas. It was called the Yoga Center of Dallas,
Speaker 2: and they went to they that was one of their things.
Speaker 2: So he was there like teaching them yoga. My friend
Speaker 2: had to be one of those people, hm, that has
Speaker 2: to be like, okay, well now let's slowly do like
Speaker 2: he was just, you know, doing the thing. I'm sure
Speaker 2: not paid to do it. So that was funny. He's nice.
Speaker 2: It's not David. It's not Shannon's.
Speaker 1: David. What if it was David.
Speaker 2: Okay, if it was, and then I'm just not telling
Speaker 2: you that I'm friends with David Badoor. He really wants
Speaker 2: to be on the show too, Do you want him?
Speaker 1: Okay, So Alexis during the yeah, but during the Biscuits thing,
Speaker 1: Alexis is like, you, guys, I'm really sorry, like I
Speaker 1: know it's hard, like to bring all this drama like
Speaker 1: with my Johnny Jay, Like, I know it's really hard
Speaker 1: for you guys, and they're like, yeah, it is. Gina
Speaker 1: goes it is.
Speaker 2: I try to spell I try to spell it phonetically
Speaker 2: how she speaks because we still can't put our finger
Speaker 2: on it. She's like, first of all, she's she's me,
Speaker 2: it is ease hard, it ease hard. And then she's
Speaker 2: kneading the dough and she literally is like, it's like
Speaker 2: making them meat the ball. It's like our joke where
Speaker 2: we can't really do.
Speaker 1: The I'm like making the meat the ball. But she
Speaker 1: doesn't say it like that exactly right, but I found
Speaker 1: it was like it's so Gina, it is hard because
Speaker 1: when Travis and it's like it's it's an accent she
Speaker 1: can't shake, right.
Speaker 2: This is how she talks and how she talks and
Speaker 2: she's gonna have some crawf coffee.
Speaker 1: She'll have cloth, she'll have coffee. Yeah, So back forrest bath.
Speaker 1: Shannon Arrives stumbles in. I was just like, she's so drunk.
Speaker 1: She's drunk. You know, you're right.
Speaker 2: It didn't even occur to me. I just I just
Speaker 2: thought she was sick and hungover. But you're right, she's drunk.
Speaker 1: If you're sick and hungover, you're not acting goofy. And
Speaker 1: she was being goofy. She was being loose and like
Speaker 1: laying like fluffing her you know, throwing her arms back
Speaker 1: and just like dramatically like she no, she was she
Speaker 1: was drunk.
Speaker 2: I want to say that was pills. I think she
Speaker 2: Oh no, I want to say that's a benzo doing
Speaker 2: that on top of probably still the effects of the
Speaker 2: alcohol and not sleeping enough and being sick. Okay, that
Speaker 2: is very possible, but she also seemed kind of drunk
Speaker 2: to me. All Right, I've known a lot of drunk
Speaker 2: people who relapse a lot, and I'm always the last
Speaker 2: to know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've had I've I've had situations where somebody,
Speaker 1: let's came to me and was like, hey, I want
Speaker 1: to like, you know, go to a meeting. I think
Speaker 1: I have a problem, you know. And then I've taken
Speaker 1: them to a meeting and introduced them to some people,
Speaker 1: and then the person later was like, oh, yeah, your
Speaker 1: friend was so very drunk. Oh and I just see it. No,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm tend to be the last to know,
Speaker 1: but so in this case, I was like, she's definitely
Speaker 1: something something's wrong. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then well so then Tamra is at some point
Speaker 2: yelling about Channon again. Is that what was happening? I
Speaker 2: just wrote, like everyone's very agro everything aggressive.
Speaker 1: Let me yeah, Tamra's Tamra's like, do you know how
Speaker 1: hard it is to be around her? Like when she
Speaker 1: orders drinks and Jenna goes, yeah, I get it, but
Speaker 1: like you don't. I thought this was a good line.
Speaker 1: It's good. She goes, I get it, But you don't
Speaker 1: get to make the boundary for everyone else. That's the
Speaker 1: accent you did it. I could have not been able
Speaker 1: to do this. That was very good. The boundary. You
Speaker 1: don't need to make the beyondary boundary about treevis or
Speaker 1: me for everyone else. Yeah that's true though, and then
Speaker 1: Gina goes, I get it, that's why I quit drinking.
Speaker 1: I looked ahead at her and I thought, oh god,
Speaker 1: that could be me in twenty years. I didn't like
Speaker 1: what I saw, but we need to support we need
Speaker 1: to support bull. I don't know she was talking about.
Speaker 2: Kind of what she's saying doesn't make sense, because yes,
Speaker 2: that's great, it makes her seem healthy. But also I
Speaker 2: can see Tamra's side of being like sick of it,
Speaker 2: She's sick of the victim shit.
Speaker 1: Yes, And also this is why Tamar quit the Trace
Speaker 1: of Migos. She was like, these two fucking bitches, like,
Speaker 1: I'm not the thing that really pissed Tamra off. And
Speaker 1: I'm again not defending Tamra either. Tamra sucks. I cannot
Speaker 1: stand Tamra. I can't stand Tamar's son. Like there, it's
Speaker 1: all bad. But in defence, in crazy defense of Tamra,
Speaker 1: she's saying that, you know, all this stuff went down
Speaker 1: with Shannon, Shannon's being disingenuous, saying she's getting help. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: she's like sneaking drinks at their show, at their Trace.
Speaker 2: Aigo show, right, And also maybe Tamra realized at some
Speaker 2: point like this is the weirdest, like most awful cringe show.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be part of it because it
Speaker 2: is so cringe. It is maybe the worst thing that
Speaker 2: the housewives have put together. And I can't think of
Speaker 2: a worse thing.
Speaker 1: And Vicky, I mean, Vicky is just so like doesn't
Speaker 1: get stuff.
Speaker 2: Nor to Shannon, they're not they're so unfunny. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I'm mad that they're stealing the Three Amigos like Little
Speaker 2: Dance exactly. I feel that should be trademarked.
Speaker 1: Is can't it be? Who do we talk to? Can
Speaker 1: we call Steve Martin?
Speaker 2: Paul Steve gets Steve Martin on the line. He'll help out.
Speaker 2: He's a friendly dude, he'll get this done. He'll take
Speaker 2: the call. He's because he doesn't he can't like it either.
Speaker 2: How about this, You call Steve Martin, I'll call called Chevy.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm really good friends with Chevy Chase. One
Speaker 2: thing you guys don't know about me is Chevy Chase
Speaker 2: is my godfather. A lot of people was, yeah, is
Speaker 2: my godfather? I made him I god Usually it's assigned
Speaker 2: by your your parents, but I was like, no, I've
Speaker 2: decided you're just going to be my godfather.
Speaker 1: And I knew you knew, you knew that.
Speaker 2: You guys have it like that. We have it like that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we have it like that.
Speaker 1: Wow, what did he get you? Like a really nice gift?
Speaker 1: Did he come to your butt? Mitzvah?
Speaker 2: He came to my and also a christening? We both
Speaker 2: we did. I did both just in case he dunked
Speaker 2: me underwater. He sprinkled me with like all the all
Speaker 2: the stuff, all the herbs, spicing me a gold.
Speaker 1: I have a gold Godfather bracelet me, It says Chevy
Speaker 1: and Cecily forever linked. Did I never talk? That's crazy
Speaker 1: that we've never talked about that anyway, It's so funny.
Speaker 1: We haven't ever talked about it, but now we're always
Speaker 1: going to talk about it because now that I know,
Speaker 1: I can't like unknow that it's amazing.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I've talked to him about Real Housewives. We
Speaker 2: watch together every week. I mean he comes over and
Speaker 2: we watch.
Speaker 1: What yes all okay, yeah, yeah, I feel like I've
Speaker 1: been remiss in our friendship. I don't know what. Maybe
Speaker 1: I should have asked, like, who are you watching with
Speaker 1: right now? Is that I.
Speaker 2: Watch alone a lot? But no, Chevy comes over, he
Speaker 2: brings up her whole spread. I'm like, you don't have
Speaker 2: to bring we don't have to do like all these snacks,
Speaker 2: like we just a couple of snacks are fine, like chips, whatever,
Speaker 2: but it's always a spread cheesus.
Speaker 1: Right, meat, fancy fancy cheeses, meats, meats anyway, so many meat.
Speaker 2: Into board AF territory, I think, which we maybe we'll
Speaker 2: talk about this more on board AF. But the point
Speaker 2: is is I talked to him and he does not
Speaker 2: like that they do those three amigos dances, like that's
Speaker 2: unacceptable and he's doing he is doing, so I should
Speaker 2: have told you that.
Speaker 1: Okay, so sorry, that's so good, okay, so or as
Speaker 1: oh oh oh okay, so yeah, Gina, Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: like what I saw us, so I quit drinking. But
Speaker 1: you know what, we need to support both of you.
Speaker 1: Then the biscuit lady just goes, did I bring you
Speaker 1: all together? Shut the fuck up, biscuit lady.
Speaker 2: I thought the biscuit lady was being funny. I thought
Speaker 2: she honestly was just making a joke. I think she's
Speaker 2: being funny.
Speaker 1: She was, but I thought it was unnecessary. Why why
Speaker 1: are you being funny?
Speaker 2: I liked it. Maybe because the biscuits just look so good.
Speaker 2: And I loved Emily. I love Emily's love of food.
Speaker 2: I actually really do. I love that she like shows
Speaker 2: us that she is just like we are. We are
Speaker 2: all that I would have eaten every single biscuit, like
Speaker 2: right on camera if they were like delicious and Doe.
Speaker 1: How can I like? Emily does that?
Speaker 2: I like that she's the only one that kind of
Speaker 2: talks about it, you know, And later she's going to
Speaker 2: talk about like body issues, which we can all not.
Speaker 2: I mean, we can all relate to that. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: like one hundred percent. So back in the forest, this
Speaker 2: this lady bugged me more than the bit. I like
Speaker 2: the biscuit lady. I called her the biscuit Queen. Why
Speaker 2: did someone else call it a bit because I wrote
Speaker 2: I like the biscuit Queen.
Speaker 1: Maybe they did say that she has.
Speaker 2: The forest lady was very nasal, and you know how
Speaker 2: much I hate the word belly.
Speaker 1: I don't like it.
Speaker 2: So she's like, okay, if you're feeling and your belly
Speaker 2: and all the way down your ches and back up
Speaker 2: to your belly. I was, And then Shannon's just coughing
Speaker 2: all over that.
Speaker 1: I was like horrible, like why would she come to that?
Speaker 2: And then I remembered, oh, she has to get paid,
Speaker 2: and everybody's annoyed.
Speaker 1: It was so funny. Jen was doing the best jen Z.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of too dumb to have musophonia.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a real thing. Misophony is tied to they say,
Speaker 2: intelligence and anxiety. Soe them were just like, oh.
Speaker 1: God, they stop, like how are we supposed to enjoy this?
Speaker 1: She's like it was a deep cough. It was like
Speaker 1: a real oh yeah, real wrong there. Yes. So then
Speaker 1: Katie out of nowhere, is like Heather, yeah, I need
Speaker 1: to talk because uh and Heather is clearly like uh uh,
Speaker 1: and but Katie can't stop. She's like, yeah, what happened
Speaker 1: to me was a setup she wants and Heather goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it, and then she
Speaker 1: says to the camera, you know, you know, Katie should
Speaker 1: have just apologized, but instead she just blames everyone else
Speaker 1: wrong approach. Right.
Speaker 2: Heather is not having it. It's a non starter. She's like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about this right now. We're
Speaker 2: at an event and we'll just talk about it later,
Speaker 2: which she does. She keeps kind of kicking and down
Speaker 2: the can, you know, kicking the can down the road.
Speaker 1: Yes, So now why she's She's kind of like, look,
Speaker 1: can can we not? Like Katie's trying so hard to
Speaker 1: have a storyline. This is if I'm Heather, I'm like,
Speaker 1: Katie wants this storyline, but it's about me, Like I
Speaker 1: don't care, Like, Okay, you tried to take me down
Speaker 1: with saying that I hired paparazzi, and even if I did,
Speaker 1: who cares? But like, I'm not going to let you
Speaker 1: continue to bring it up and cause a fight about
Speaker 1: whether or not I hired paparazzi, Like you're new stand back.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 2: Heather's dom with you, And that is exactly what Heather
Speaker 2: is thinking. I think she says it. She's like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, with this bitch and not so Now it's
Speaker 2: time for the fashion show, which is exciting and I was.
Speaker 2: I was finally as much as I don't like ACTA,
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is kind of fun. They're all going
Speaker 2: to be wearing the clothes that were made for them, right,
Speaker 2: one thing like sewed for them. That's so cool, except
Speaker 2: that what was upsetting and it's going to have to
Speaker 2: go on. And this is where I felt for Emily.
Speaker 1: But also she was being paranoid because she's like, I mean,
Speaker 1: she put me in a she put me in an
Speaker 1: oversized blazer. Yeah, and I think she's trying to hide
Speaker 1: my arm. And I was like, it's freaking cute.
Speaker 2: And they all were wearing they like, not most of
Speaker 2: them were hiding there. They were like few lazers and
Speaker 2: cute things. But then she was the only one that
Speaker 2: had to bring her own jeans. Everyone else had their
Speaker 2: own pants. But but Gina pointed out, She's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: but no, they made them. They would have made them decide, Like,
Speaker 2: it doesn't that what Emily was saying doesn't make sense,
Speaker 2: but it didn't take away the fact that she was
Speaker 2: feeling that way. She's just feeling different.
Speaker 1: She was feeling different. She was feeling bigger than everybody,
Speaker 1: those women, even Shannon. Now Shannon is just like teeny
Speaker 1: tiny sale little yea Ita, it all looks so tiny.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And I felt for Emily too, But Emily looked fantastic.
Speaker 1: She looved cool.
Speaker 2: I mean, probably the best. But you know it's from
Speaker 2: the outside. She just doesn't feel that way.
Speaker 1: Okay, But she also here's the thing. If I'm Heather,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you probably have a million pairs of jeans,
Speaker 1: so bring a cute pair. Like, I don't know why
Speaker 1: you would need to have jeans that are custom made
Speaker 1: for you, like if you you know, I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: all these girls own designer jeans, and she's saying, the
Speaker 1: look is going to be I'm going to do the
Speaker 1: top and it's black and whites and blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: but like the yours is going to be a gene look.
Speaker 1: So bringing the cute pair of jeans, Yeah, it was ridiculus.
Speaker 1: It was ridiculous. It was, but I get it. I
Speaker 1: also get it.
Speaker 2: And this is another big moment because everyone's like Shannon
Speaker 2: puts on her outfit and they're like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: you look incredible. She did look good. They're like, you
Speaker 2: look so great, and even Alexis did you hear her?
Speaker 2: She's like, you do look good, and Shannon ignores it.
Speaker 2: Alexis tries to give her a compliment. I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: very nice, that was nice.
Speaker 1: Oh well, Alexis is really trying. I agree, but Shannon's
Speaker 1: not having any of it. So then this was cute.
Speaker 1: So Terry shows up and Heather's like, I have found
Speaker 1: a true partner in Terry, and he's here because this
Speaker 1: is about his family, and I just wrote I love this.
Speaker 1: It gave me chills. That was really nice. Okay, I
Speaker 1: didn't see it, you know where. You didn't see this
Speaker 1: as much in Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Mauricio, it
Speaker 1: was not like Terry because I'm sorry, but Terry is
Speaker 1: just as busy as Maurice.
Speaker 2: I would say busier than Mauricio. Yeah, you can't, like
Speaker 2: he's got like actual story. I mean, I think they're
Speaker 2: both equally busy. But Mauricio was checked out a long
Speaker 2: time ago. Yes, because he will never emotionally fulfill her.
Speaker 1: No, he didn't. He was so he I think he
Speaker 1: always seemed checked out and kind of like a little high.
Speaker 2: He was high. Yeah, yeah, he was always. I mean
Speaker 2: he talked about that. I'm not putting that on him.
Speaker 2: He was a big stoner. He still is nothing wrong
Speaker 2: with that, but you could say he would laugh at
Speaker 2: inappropriate times. I think she was getting a little embarrassed
Speaker 2: by him. But that's that's coming back soon. We'll have
Speaker 2: that in a minute.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows. I think everybody knows that I'm pretty good
Speaker 1: friends with Mauricio because I saw him at a sushi restaurant.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but.
Speaker 2: Hmm, but he just took a sneaky pick.
Speaker 1: Well, because I don't want to like it's awkward because
Speaker 1: like we just had seen each other. Just did you
Speaker 1: guys woke up? Now?
Speaker 2: Honestly, just John doesn't listen to this show, right, did
Speaker 2: you make out a little?
Speaker 1: No, We're just really good friends. That's it's not no,
Speaker 1: that's never even come up like he you know, because
Speaker 1: Chevy and I make out sometimes. Oh wow, he's your
Speaker 1: godfather though well we're not blood.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, all right, choice, we'll come back
Speaker 2: to this.
Speaker 1: Okay. So Tamra, uh, okay, this is the thing where
Speaker 1: Heather he First Heather tries to Heather. Heather talks to Tamra,
Speaker 1: and Heather's like, so Katie tried to talk to me
Speaker 1: and I didn't let her talk on me. And then
Speaker 1: Tamra's like, you you need to show her grace because
Speaker 1: Gina was behind this. Then there's a flashback to Katie
Speaker 1: telling Tamra that Gina told her to bring it up
Speaker 1: to Heather, and then also Gina said she can't bring
Speaker 1: it up with you because she has to keep you
Speaker 1: close for the real estate connections. Now, right, this is
Speaker 1: a big but this right, this is a big moment.
Speaker 1: But remember this is all Katie's word. Katie, nowhere have
Speaker 1: we seen a flashback of Gina saying any of this stuff.
Speaker 1: It's all Katie going Yeah. Gina says she can't bring
Speaker 1: it up because she doesn't want to piss off Heather
Speaker 1: because of her real Do you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is all Katie's side and Katie's new right. And then Heather, though,
Speaker 1: immediately is like, well she lost that. But also I
Speaker 1: can't deal with this right now, right because I'm doing
Speaker 1: a thing here. I'm doing a charity event. Everybody's here,
Speaker 1: Let's focus on that. So then it shows Shannon drinking.
Speaker 1: This is when they're like, do you want to Margarita? Right?
Speaker 1: I just wrote is Shannon sneaking a little drinking poop?
Speaker 2: But not really because I think it was Emily that's like,
Speaker 2: you want to Margarite? And she's like, oh, I don't
Speaker 2: really drink tequila. She not only can't own what's going
Speaker 2: on with herself, she tries to make it look like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm really working on myself. I don't do tequila anymore.
Speaker 2: But then just gets a straight up vodka right here,
Speaker 2: vog like you said, which is a splash of soda right,
Speaker 2: A couple of lines right or gin or whatever here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's right, that is her thing. So they so they
Speaker 2: do the fashion show. I just wrote, everyone looks so great.
Speaker 2: Emily is so pretty. Yes, And I'm not just I'm
Speaker 2: not just saying that because she doesn't feel that way.
Speaker 1: I'm like, in awe of her hair, her skin. I mean,
Speaker 1: she's gorgeous, maybe like an eighties supermodel, for sure, I agree.
Speaker 1: And also I was like, I love all these clothes.
Speaker 1: I love Heather, the looks Heather put together for people.
Speaker 1: I think it's just so cute and wearable and fun.
Speaker 1: And then I had a question okay that maybe you
Speaker 1: can answer, and it was it's like the probably the
Speaker 1: dumbest question ever. But when people do fashion shows that
Speaker 1: are let's say, let's say not like Chanel showing their
Speaker 1: new line, but like just a regular fashion show, is
Speaker 1: it for people? Can people buy the clothes right there?
Speaker 1: Like or is this like go to our website? Like
Speaker 1: what is that?
Speaker 2: I don't know? Okay, so this I swear to god,
Speaker 2: I'm not making this up. I did fashion shows when
Speaker 2: I was like in sixth seventh grade. They and I
Speaker 2: would for guests for some reason, mons so I would
Speaker 2: walk in these guests. I really did. I don't know why.
Speaker 2: I was not especially attractive, but I could wear the clothes.
Speaker 2: And so the way they did it at Nieman's or
Speaker 2: places like that, they would have fashion shows in the
Speaker 2: stores and then people would like, you know, they were
Speaker 2: selling all that, so it was guess and then some
Speaker 2: people would come up and be like, Okay, where can
Speaker 2: I get this shirt? Okay, I can I get these pants?
Speaker 2: Like that was just a weird thing. So in those cases, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. In the regular fashion shows, like if
Speaker 2: you're doing like fashion Week, I think those are the
Speaker 2: couture and.
Speaker 1: Then there are like wearable versions of those. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: just I'm wondering, Like, I get the couture is just
Speaker 1: showing the line, right, But I was wondering. When you
Speaker 1: hear about like little fashion shows, I'm wondering, Oh, so
Speaker 1: is this for like go to my website and buy
Speaker 1: this dress like Kyle used to.
Speaker 2: Do those all the time, oh for her store. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I did not like that store. If I'm honest,
Speaker 2: I always hate it was move moves. She was just
Speaker 2: moo moos.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not for me. I think it finally closed. It
Speaker 1: hands yeah yeah, lots of okay, a.
Speaker 2: Lot of house robes.
Speaker 1: Well for good.
Speaker 2: Heather tells Gina that they have to talk.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Heather's like, listen, we I'm going to talk to tomorrow,
Speaker 1: not right now, but tomorrow. But when we do, we're
Speaker 1: going to blow it out, bitch, because I'm sick of
Speaker 1: the chatter.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, But Gina handles herself. Don't
Speaker 2: you worry? But she was like, oh boy, yeah, She's
Speaker 2: like shit and her anxiety is starting to get up there,
Speaker 2: which I completely understand. Like Gina's like, what, why why
Speaker 2: would you even say that? Why don't you just talk
Speaker 2: the next day. You don't have to say, like, we're
Speaker 2: going to talk tomorrow. Yeah, And it's not going to
Speaker 2: be good, right We're and it's going to be a blowout.
Speaker 2: It's not going to be You're not going to be
Speaker 2: happy when I bring up all the shit I have
Speaker 2: on you.
Speaker 1: The blowout came the other way. So Gina like she
Speaker 1: earned her she earned her crown. Last night.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: See I wasn't. I wasn't feeling that as much. But
Speaker 1: but I'm just in love with her. I am love
Speaker 1: I love her.
Speaker 2: So okay, Heather and Alexis are saying nice things about
Speaker 2: their kids. That's a nice moment. They're both you know,
Speaker 2: feeling this what the whole charity event is for, which
Speaker 2: tell us what it's called again, It's.
Speaker 1: Called Family Equality. Mm hm. It's a really beautiful charity.
Speaker 1: And they are the ones that fought They sued the
Speaker 1: Florida in Florida about the Don't Say Gay lot and they've.
Speaker 2: Done a lot of other things too, for like LGBTQ.
Speaker 2: That's their thing a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's amazing. And then uh I have
Speaker 1: the oh yeah, okay, so right before this I have Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Tamra talks to Katie. She's like, yeah, so I talked
Speaker 1: to Heather and she sees what's going on and she
Speaker 1: is never going to give Gina any more business. And
Speaker 1: then Katie goes, I know. And then Katie goes, oh shit,
Speaker 1: Gina is going to hate me. Oh my god, she's
Speaker 1: another to pass. Okay, yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: So Heather makes the speech and she tears up and
Speaker 1: then it's like really sweet. She basically says, and I've
Speaker 1: this has happened to me too, where she says people
Speaker 1: say like, oh, your kids are so lucky to have
Speaker 1: you and Terry as parents, and then she goes, no,
Speaker 1: I'm lucky. I'm the lucky one. And then she is
Speaker 1: crying and so is Terry, and she says, and also
Speaker 1: I thought this was a great moment because she also
Speaker 1: acknowledges her privilege. You know, She's like, I know that,
Speaker 1: Like it's different for our family, and not all kids,
Speaker 1: you know, have the means and the to get the
Speaker 1: support that they deserve. And this is what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to change. And then Alexis says, I, you know, to camera,
Speaker 1: I know that I can be my authentic self every
Speaker 1: day and I want to ensure that my kids have
Speaker 1: the same. Right. I like that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like that moment for both of them. I love
Speaker 2: Heather anyway, but okay, yeah, So then move on to
Speaker 2: when they're trying to get Alexis and Shannon to talk,
Speaker 2: like everybody wants, so Alexis wants to approach Shannon, right,
Speaker 2: and they're all asking Shannon, They're like, you should sit
Speaker 2: down with Alexis and I wrote, really kind of don't
Speaker 2: blame Shannon here. I mean, you know, she can be
Speaker 2: in the whatever, Like, I don't see why she has
Speaker 2: to sit down with her on camera.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it would behoove, I think. I think because
Speaker 1: they're saying, like, we're all going to have to be
Speaker 1: filming together, so like otherwise you're just going to be
Speaker 1: angry every single scene, like this is all it's going
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 2: For the rest of the season. Also, they know that
Speaker 2: conversation is going to make good TV, so.
Speaker 1: She knows it.
Speaker 2: Alexis is trying to feel it out, so Shannon decides
Speaker 2: to leave.
Speaker 1: Alexis has promised to not bring up Johnny j sexy,
Speaker 1: Alexi has said, I won't bring up Johnny Jay.
Speaker 2: I just want to talk to her, like, but Shannon's
Speaker 2: already been shannoned out, She's been Alexi out. She can't
Speaker 2: she can't take it anymore. She's hugging everyone. She decides to leave.
Speaker 2: But then this is where I kind of didn't love
Speaker 2: this moment for Shannon. Right, she leans over to basically
Speaker 2: say fuck you to Alexis. I understand you want to
Speaker 2: talk to me. Absolutely not happening. Bye. Bitch like microphone
Speaker 2: drop out. She thinks it's a mic drop moment, but
Speaker 2: it's not.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. It's like Shannon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't like that because we come kind of
Speaker 2: far like but I also, let's take it from Shannon's
Speaker 2: point of view. Alexis has been a nightmare. First, she
Speaker 2: sued her with Jim for like three hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Let's not forget that all that happened. Then she joins
Speaker 2: the cast just to taunt that she's now dating her ex,
Speaker 2: her very serious ex boyfriend who she had a horrible
Speaker 2: breakup with. Yes, no, fuck her. You know what, I'm
Speaker 2: team Shannon. I changed my mind. That's why we talked
Speaker 2: this shit out. I'm good for Shannon. It was a
Speaker 2: mic drop.
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2: I couldn't have talked to her either. I'd be like
Speaker 2: fuck off forever, really I would. I would be so
Speaker 2: mean to her to try to get her to leave
Speaker 2: the show, like this is my show now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and listen. She's really mad. She feels it's ridiculous
Speaker 1: that any of the other women on her cast are supporting,
Speaker 1: supporting Alexis. But at the same time, Shannon makes a
Speaker 1: lot of her own bad choices like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: she complained about David Badore, Like her whole first season
Speaker 1: was like complaining about David, and you know we saw
Speaker 1: how that went down. Oh, I agree with you.
Speaker 2: I just on this on Alexis, it's like, get out
Speaker 2: of here. You don't get to try to pretend to
Speaker 2: be nice on camera now. Agree, that's just not happening.
Speaker 2: So then I just wrote there's still more stuff. I
Speaker 2: was annoyed. I was like, that's a good place to
Speaker 2: end it. But no, they have to go to the
Speaker 2: Russian River vineyard. I'm like, that's enough. There's another activity
Speaker 2: where they're going to ride bikes.
Speaker 1: Luckily stuff Mercifully, it was very short because nobody really
Speaker 1: wanted to do enough. Yeah, we can skip. Well, then
Speaker 1: let's just skip their bike ride and yeah, and they
Speaker 1: so they are at the vineyard. But before that, right
Speaker 1: before that, I wrote, Gina talks to Travis. Does she too? Uh?
Speaker 1: Or maybe she talks to camera and tells us that Trav. Oh,
Speaker 1: she talks to Travis on the phone, and then she
Speaker 1: gets everybody's like talking to their person on the phone.
Speaker 1: And then Gina complains to the camera. She's just like
Speaker 1: ah my god, Like he's too emotional, and like, I
Speaker 1: hate being responsible for so many people's emotions. Like there
Speaker 1: there's like I'm responsible for like six people's emotions and.
Speaker 2: Two dogs, like and Archie for some reason, Shannon's dog. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I am responsible for Archie's emotions. But yeah, she's she's
Speaker 2: she's just having a day. She's feeling all kinds of
Speaker 2: she's feeling some kind of way.
Speaker 1: Okay, but but they're just going to push back against
Speaker 1: something about Gina. Okay, I know you love Gina. Careful,
Speaker 1: be careful. I'm not talking to I know I'm talking
Speaker 1: to a Gina Stan here. But part of something that
Speaker 1: kind of irks me a little bit about the gena
Speaker 1: thing is like these are also Gina is acting like
Speaker 1: a victim, and these are her actual choices, Like she
Speaker 1: decided to move out from Travis, and then she's just
Speaker 1: completely shocked that he's not happy about that. Now she
Speaker 1: could very well have her reasons for doing it.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I know she's the reasons for doing it,
Speaker 2: Like his ex wife is making everybody's life a nightmare.
Speaker 2: It was making their world chaotic, and she didn't want
Speaker 2: her kids to be around this kind of chaos. There
Speaker 2: are the wonder years and she didn't.
Speaker 1: Write, but she's not planning. She's leaving him feeling whatever
Speaker 1: some kind of way about this and like are we
Speaker 1: committed or are we not committed? And you know, and
Speaker 1: she's just like, but I still want you to support me.
Speaker 1: I still want you.
Speaker 2: This isn't that what Emily says. Later, somebody says like,
Speaker 2: you know, I think Travis just wants a something like
Speaker 2: more concrete, like yeah, you know, we're still together.
Speaker 1: I mean because every time they ask her about it
Speaker 1: what she wants. Every time they ask her like, are
Speaker 1: you guys going to ever? Do you see yourself moving
Speaker 1: back in with them? She's like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the future is.
Speaker 1: But I'm so sia that Travis doesn't want to like
Speaker 1: put me emotionally when I.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I mean I get, I'll give you that.
Speaker 1: It's a lot.
Speaker 2: But this is where they have the big conversation about
Speaker 2: the real estate connected. It comes up and they're like,
Speaker 2: well you said that, you you you only stay friends
Speaker 2: with Heather because the real estate connection. So Gina loses
Speaker 2: her mind, yes, understandably, which is why I have a
Speaker 2: million percent back her and also like believe her, totally
Speaker 2: believe her.
Speaker 1: So you felt that the fact that she was losing
Speaker 1: her mind because Tamor goes, Wow, you're being You're so
Speaker 1: angry that it's making you look guilty. But you think
Speaker 1: it's the opposite. I think it's the opposite. I think
Speaker 1: she just had it like that had all been squash.
Speaker 1: She's genuinely friends with Heather. There's totally good reasons for
Speaker 1: them to be friends. They're a lot alike in some way,
Speaker 1: is just Heather has a lot. Yeah, they're both from
Speaker 1: New York, they're both the smart ones. They're people that
Speaker 1: you would actually choose in real life to be friends with.
Speaker 1: I would, like I said, I would throw Emily in
Speaker 1: there too sometimes. But you know, like I think, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: they've showed I don't know if it was this season
Speaker 1: or last, but like they went to New York together,
Speaker 1: had a girl's weekend just the two of them, like
Speaker 1: they're they make sense. I think she would never say
Speaker 1: to somebody else like I only keep her. She might
Speaker 1: have said about Heather. She might have said, like, that's
Speaker 1: my friends. Why I do have to be careful like
Speaker 1: and maybe I'm a little scared of her. That's a
Speaker 1: little different than I'm using her for real estate connections.
Speaker 1: Gina never said that, well they say they they clear
Speaker 1: up what she actually said, and you're right, it's it's
Speaker 1: not that bad, Emily, it's I mean Katie said something
Speaker 1: about like she she's helped me in business, and because
Speaker 1: remember when they say that, and then and then Gina goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with that? She does like, that's all it,
Speaker 1: that's that's not saying you am using her, right yeah, and.
Speaker 2: Katie backs down. And then the thing that I think
Speaker 2: you were upset. You have this whole thing where Gina
Speaker 2: is like, everyone's like, okay, calm down, Heather, we love
Speaker 2: Heather's like, we love you, We're here for you.
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 2: And then she and Katie, Gina and Katie hug They're like,
Speaker 2: you mother fuck aer bitch, come here, come in for it.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, why are you hugging Katie? After I
Speaker 2: was never so fucking fake? I think I think Gina
Speaker 2: is such a pleaser. I think that's honestly what it is.
Speaker 2: I think she's just like, does not like to be
Speaker 2: fighting with people, no matter who it is, and she
Speaker 2: doesn't want like negativity, and she doesn't want somebody like Katie,
Speaker 2: who's obviously not to be trusted to. She doesn't want
Speaker 2: her against.
Speaker 1: Her, so like it's better easier to just you have
Speaker 1: this big blow up, so let's just let's just hug
Speaker 1: it out. What annoys me is that nobody gets to
Speaker 1: hold anybody accountable because everyone's always had the worst day,
Speaker 1: Like so yes, you can't have a valid problem with
Speaker 1: your friend and go like, hey, I heard that you
Speaker 1: said this shit about me, because it's like, but I
Speaker 1: gotta be a day. I'm so sad about Travis, but
Speaker 1: what about Travis? And everybody does do like, oh my god, poor,
Speaker 1: oh no, what happened with Travis, And nothing fucking happened
Speaker 1: with Travis. He he called you and told you like
Speaker 1: he misses you, right, I noticed that for.
Speaker 3: Everybody's feelings, and now this and now everybody hates me,
Speaker 3: then everybody has to be like it's okay, Gina and
Speaker 3: pet her like she's a dog with arthritis, but she's
Speaker 3: a baby.
Speaker 1: Okay, baby, biby, little.
Speaker 2: Tiny little baby. I hear you on that. I agree
Speaker 2: with you. I noticed that to you. I was like,
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of a deflection here and they
Speaker 2: all do it. Yeah, Heather doesn't do it. Heather's always
Speaker 2: the Heather doesn't give enough to get shit. She's not
Speaker 2: really like confiding. Everything she does is one hundred percent
Speaker 2: on camera for charity, that kind of thing. So she'll
Speaker 2: be open about her family, but she doesn't really like
Speaker 2: express her emotions. No, I can't run, which is which
Speaker 2: is so smart smart. Yeah, yes, it can't be used
Speaker 2: against her because she just but she has stood up
Speaker 2: to these bitches for years decades now.
Speaker 1: I missed some seasons. So what happened with Like everybody
Speaker 1: hated Heather for a while, right, Well, it's because Tamra
Speaker 1: led that charge.
Speaker 2: Tamara was always like, oh, she's so high and might
Speaker 2: They were always so jealous of her money. I personally
Speaker 2: believe a little bit of was her being Jewish. She
Speaker 2: didn't belong. They would make little comments about her just
Speaker 2: not quite fitting in here, you know, and we as Jews,
Speaker 2: as you and I are, I mean I am sensitive
Speaker 2: to that. We know what that means. You know, that
Speaker 2: thing so like little and she's just above it and
Speaker 2: she's you know, they were saying she's a princess and
Speaker 2: all the things and what Heather did is like fuck you,
Speaker 2: and then she owned all those things like yeah, I
Speaker 2: am smarter than you, Yes I am a princess and
Speaker 2: what and what else?
Speaker 1: What else you got? And that's why Heather's a queen.
Speaker 1: So then, but then Heather was off the show for.
Speaker 2: A while, right, was not the show for like I
Speaker 2: don't remember exactly how many seasons. But then she came
Speaker 2: back her big return, and she sort of they then
Speaker 2: then they tried to turn against her again, like they
Speaker 2: didn't really think she was that this season or last.
Speaker 1: No, that was that was before. That was definitely not
Speaker 1: this season. Yeah, they tried to sort of say this
Speaker 1: season with their whole thing was that she don't go
Speaker 1: against the queen, right, so I think last yeah, they
Speaker 1: go against her whenever they can, but she always she
Speaker 1: always wins because like what are they going to get
Speaker 1: her for, Oh she's too smart, Oh she.
Speaker 2: Uses big words that you don't know. It's always Tamra.
Speaker 2: So then Shannon's like a little beta bitch that follows Tamra.
Speaker 1: So they're still trying to take Heather down, is what
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm asking.
Speaker 2: But in some ways, yes, I think that with Tamra
Speaker 2: saying things like, yeah, like trying to just fuck with her.
Speaker 2: Tama's just mean, so she's just gonna fuck with everybody.
Speaker 1: But there is history from the last few seasons where
Speaker 1: they blatantly didn't like Heather and tried to ast her.
Speaker 1: I would say a while back on that. Yes, so
Speaker 1: Heather's probably a little standoffish for that, and like, I'm
Speaker 1: just going to do my thing, make my money right,
Speaker 1: promote my charities.
Speaker 2: But she's always been standoffish like that, and she's never
Speaker 2: been super vulnerable, and I think that was part of
Speaker 2: what triggered them, because they you know, I think because
Speaker 2: they have no chanton certainly has no control. But back
Speaker 2: when it was like Tamera and I guess Vicky. I
Speaker 2: don't remember Vicky's stance on Heather. I actually I'm sure
Speaker 2: she didn't like her at first. I'm sure of it.
Speaker 2: It's funny because when she does go about it so
Speaker 2: smartly and I'm sure it annoys them, but she just refuses.
Speaker 2: She pits them against each other and then just lets
Speaker 2: them fight. Yes, it's kind of like what they were
Speaker 2: having trouble with with Kyle on Beverly Hills. You know,
Speaker 2: whoever is like the normal person quote unquote on the show.
Speaker 2: They always go after them, was like, why don't you
Speaker 2: have to do you don't We put everything out there
Speaker 2: and you don't and all that shit trying to take
Speaker 2: each other down that way right right, because like if
Speaker 2: I'm going down for this, then you're going. But Heather
Speaker 2: doesn't give them anything to go down for, so like
Speaker 2: good luck, right.
Speaker 1: Right, as as she shouldn't. She's just like living her
Speaker 1: life and she's like, hey, they want me on here
Speaker 1: because I'm rich. I'm the actual only rich person here, right,
Speaker 1: So this is you get. You take what you can get.
Speaker 1: She doesn't need the show. She doesn't need the show,
Speaker 1: and that's same with vandr Pump. But she's like, well
Speaker 1: I like the money, so I'm gonna keep doing shit, right,
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep creating stuff. I would like an island.
Speaker 1: You know, we do all the dumb, the awful islands.
Speaker 2: You know my girls trips were was like, let's take
Speaker 2: the worst people which they've done and put them together.
Speaker 2: I would like a show, a spinoff where it's the best.
Speaker 2: What if we took Kyle, Heather, who else? Cynthia Bailey
Speaker 2: just like all the normal headed.
Speaker 1: Love Cynthia Bailey. Yeah, people you'd be friends with in
Speaker 1: real life. Let's let's give them a weekend. But then
Speaker 1: it would be so boring.
Speaker 2: But maybe not because what if what if a Queen
Speaker 2: Bee had to emerge? They don't try it like that,
Speaker 2: but like, yeah, no, they would all just like get
Speaker 2: along stuff.
Speaker 1: I think that would be nice to watch. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: like it's there's so much more of a show when
Speaker 1: I can get mad at people.
Speaker 2: But of course, I guess what I'm saying is, why
Speaker 2: can't we be friends with the people we like? Because Heather, Gina,
Speaker 2: let's all hang.
Speaker 1: Out, guys, are you listening. I don't think a.
Speaker 2: Heather would, but I think Gina would. I think we
Speaker 2: can get her. Yeah, all right, well let's let's end up.
Speaker 2: Oh last thing, speaking of Gina, they had the og
Speaker 2: Gina from the original House.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Jikio.
Speaker 2: She is turning seventy years old. It was right before
Speaker 2: her seventieth birthday, and that she doesn't look a day
Speaker 2: over forty. How is she doing this surgery?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's good surgery, because there's bad surgery where
Speaker 1: they look like Lisa Vanderbomp is not good.
Speaker 2: True, she doesn't look good. So I don't know what
Speaker 2: the hell, but she looked I mean, honestly, I was
Speaker 2: shocked when they said that she looks she could be
Speaker 2: easily forty five.
Speaker 1: Easily. Yeah, she really does look kind of the same
Speaker 1: as she did when she was on the show, probably better.
Speaker 2: She's genuinely stunning. So I would like to send some
Speaker 2: letters to people and get some information. All I'm saying,
Speaker 2: all right, all.
Speaker 1: Right, everybody, what do we have coming? What do we
Speaker 1: have on deck for these people?
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