WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.720 --> 00:00:11.800 And nine Ignition six five four three two one zero 2 00:00:12.279 --> 00:00:13.400 All engine running. 3 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:25.480 It's Tuesday. You know what that means. 4 00:00:25.519 --> 00:00:29.320 It's time for Ignition with the a W FANTA podcast team. 5 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:32.399 I'm here with MK and Jest tonight. This is Kelson 6 00:00:32.479 --> 00:00:36.200 and Well. We just saw Double or Nothing. Arguably one 7 00:00:36.240 --> 00:00:39.600 of the best. Some people say it is the best 8 00:00:39.960 --> 00:00:43.280 cage match. Ratings say it is the best aw pay 9 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:48.039 per view of all time. We'll talk about that, but first, guys, 10 00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:53.320 I want to talk about something that I really don't 11 00:00:53.359 --> 00:00:56.240 want this to get out of hand, but I'm just 12 00:00:56.280 --> 00:01:01.600 a little bit mystified about well wwui's booking of events. 13 00:01:02.320 --> 00:01:06.239 They booked three events for all in weekend. 14 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:09.840 You know, when you take into consideration at ad W 15 00:01:09.920 --> 00:01:14.000 has already booked numerous events for that same weekend. 16 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:16.879 What do you guys think about this? 17 00:01:18.920 --> 00:01:23.400 I brought this up last week in poopery. This is 18 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:27.239 the most pardon my friend, but this is the most 19 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:34.239 bush league shit I've ever heard of. Competition is one 20 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:39.799 thing It's gonna happen in any business, but this is 21 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:41.959 getting ridiculous. 22 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:45.400 Do you really see this as competition though, or do 23 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:48.920 you just see this as I've heard it described as petty. 24 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:51.040 Petty's a good word for it. 25 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:55.000 My word for it. It's inexplicable to me. I just 26 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:57.519 don't get I don't get it. Especially I have some 27 00:01:57.599 --> 00:01:59.319 information for you, and I think it's going to blow 28 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:00.120 your minds. 29 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:01.719 But go ahead, Jess. 30 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:06.920 I was just gonna say, like I just said, like 31 00:02:07.079 --> 00:02:09.919 you expect this sort of thing in any business competition, 32 00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:14.560 but AEW is not supposed to be competitions. According to 33 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:15.639 criple H, I. 34 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:17.919 Feel like they're trying to oversaturate the market where people 35 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:20.479 get tired and don't want to watch all the products. 36 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:22.319 Live and then won't be. 37 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:22.719 Able to. 38 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:28.199 So it just it feels like to me, it's petty, 39 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:31.000 to be honest with you, doesn't know what they're doing. 40 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:35.879 It really hurts, in my opinion, the evolve of hey 41 00:02:35.919 --> 00:02:38.439 of you they're wanting to do because I know it's 42 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:39.919 not on the day of all inm but people are 43 00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:41.560 gonna be so tired out they're not gonna want to 44 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:44.879 watch it live. And it really hurts that women's division 45 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:47.479 because they want to pump it up as such a 46 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:52.280 great division, but then to tackle onto something else already 47 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:54.039 when they could have just had to stand alone and 48 00:02:54.080 --> 00:02:57.000 be its own thing. It makes me feel like they 49 00:02:57.000 --> 00:02:59.560 don't trust that division enough and say, look at here 50 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:02.840 will It doesn't delivered, so why why do it anymore? 51 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:07.000 Yeah, I mean I've seen several people make that comment 52 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:09.800 that it's really not fair to the women's division, and 53 00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:14.960 it really isn't, you know. And well, look, I want 54 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:17.759 to share you some interesting you know, these are facts, 55 00:03:18.120 --> 00:03:21.199 these are facts, Okay, I want to share you some 56 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:25.560 interesting facts for that week. Then when I talk about 57 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:29.719 that week, I'm talking about the entire week of wrestling, 58 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:33.240 the leading from Monday Night Raw on July seventh, all 59 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:39.439 the way through to UH to Saturday Night's main event 60 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:42.319 and and UH. 61 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:44.159 Evolution. 62 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:51.840 So on Monday night, July seventh, w W RAW is 63 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:57.120 going to be from Providence, Rhode Island. Now, the next night, 64 00:03:57.199 --> 00:04:01.479 July eighth, is the end x T show. I've read 65 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:04.120 that they are doing an NXT show, but I can't 66 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:06.960 find any information about it, so I'm just going to 67 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:09.199 leave that as being to be determined. 68 00:04:09.479 --> 00:04:09.919 Okay. 69 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:16.120 Of course, on Wednesday night, AW Dynamite from Garland, Texas, 70 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:21.680 and because all In is on Saturday to twelfth, the 71 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:28.040 next night, July tenth, AW Collision from Garland, Texas. 72 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:32.439 Now also starting. 73 00:04:32.120 --> 00:04:36.839 July eleventh and July twelfth, there's no times on it, 74 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:44.399 but I assume it's during the morning. Is aw's star cast, Yeah, okay, 75 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:48.680 But then also on July eleventh is Ring of Honor 76 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:54.959 Supercard of Honor from the Esports Stadium in Arlington, Texas. 77 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:58.000 Are we tired yet? 78 00:04:58.839 --> 00:04:58.920 So? 79 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:02.639 But wait, there's more. 80 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:05.680 Now this doesn't have anything to do with wrestling, but 81 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:10.120 it kind of ties in because on July eleventh, Beyonce 82 00:05:10.399 --> 00:05:14.120 plays her first of three concerts at the Mercedes Benz 83 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:21.279 Stadium in Atlanta. Okay, that is on a Friday, which, 84 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:26.680 of course WWE SmackDown was coming from Nashville, Tennessee on 85 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:31.000 that Friday as well, So keep in mind you have 86 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:34.680 the Ring of Honor, Supercart of Honor and ww. 87 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:40.720 SmackDown on the same day. Now wait, there's more. 88 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:43.959 Of course, on July twelfth, I've already said that there 89 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:47.839 is going to be AW Starcast, which was running on 90 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:51.480 the eleventh of twelfth. I think that that'll probably be 91 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:56.079 in the morning. But of course July twelfth is all 92 00:05:56.120 --> 00:06:01.279 in Texas, which starts pretty much but I think it 93 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:08.079 starts real early. Put it that way. But also WWE 94 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:13.560 announced NXT's Great American Bash at the State Farm Arena 95 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:16.399 in Atlanta, Georgia. Now, if you've never been to Atlanta, 96 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:22.360 the State Farm Arena is pretty close to the Mercedes 97 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:30.480 Benz Stadium. I already mentioned that Beyonce is not is 98 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:33.480 performing on the eleventh, but she is not performing on 99 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:39.000 the twelfth, but also on the twelfth Saturday Night made 100 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:42.800 event wwee later in the evening, also from the State 101 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:46.959 Farm Arena, because the Great American Bash for MENXT is 102 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:50.519 basically being run at the same time as All in Texas, 103 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:56.240 but also on July twelfth in Atlanta, is the Futures 104 00:06:56.319 --> 00:07:04.519 Game in the Major League Baseball Major League Baseball All 105 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:14.560 Star Week festivities, they're also I don't I haven't written 106 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:18.439 down here. I thought I did. Oh yeah, okay, I do. 107 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:22.279 So July twelfth, you've got All in Texas, You've got 108 00:07:22.319 --> 00:07:27.399 Saturday Night main event in Atlanta. Then you've got Great 109 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:31.519 American Bash in Atlanta. You've got the All Star Futures 110 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:34.439 Game and Celebrity Softball Game. Now, the All Star Futures 111 00:07:34.480 --> 00:07:38.120 Game and Celebrity Softball Game are really not that close 112 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:43.680 to Atlanta. They're in Cobb County. I mean, you're still 113 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:49.519 talking within ten miles of each other, but they're not 114 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:51.199 like right next door to each other. 115 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:52.079 Bye. 116 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:59.079 Wait, but wait, there's more, so I said July twelfth, 117 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:04.959 July thirteen, eighth in Atlanta, you have understand something to 118 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:12.519 July twelfth. That's that's the end of the Well, No, 119 00:08:12.600 --> 00:08:16.920 it isn't, because July twelfth, I'm sorry. July thirteenth, in Atlanta, 120 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:22.199 Beyonce plazer second concert at the Mercedes Benz Stadium, which 121 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:27.279 at the same time very close by, arguably within walking 122 00:08:27.319 --> 00:08:29.680 distance for most people, is. 123 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:33.919 WWE's Evolution two at the State Farm Arena. 124 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:36.960 If you could go look at Mercedes Benz at State 125 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:41.159 Farm Arena, they're not that far away from each other. Also, 126 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:45.200 on July thirteenth, Major League Baseball is doing their four 127 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:48.279 point four miler, which is kind of like a celebrity 128 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:51.440 run in the heart of Atlanta. Basically, it starts where 129 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:56.000 where the old Atlanta Braves Stadium is and loops around 130 00:08:56.039 --> 00:08:58.919 and come and ends right back at the old Atlanta. 131 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:00.279 Braves Stadium and then a course. 132 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:02.879 On July fourteenth, and this has nothing to do with 133 00:09:02.879 --> 00:09:08.200 with wrestling, Beyonce has her third and final concert at 134 00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:11.399 the Mercedes Benz Stadium. The reason I'm bringing up Major 135 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:18.720 League Baseball and the the Beyonce concerts is that these 136 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:26.919 were all booked well in advance of WWE booking their things. Okay, 137 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:31.879 major League Baseball's All Star Week is a big week. 138 00:09:32.240 --> 00:09:35.159 Beyonce is a big deal, especially in Atlanta. 139 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:40.320 Right where are people going for these ww shows going 140 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:40.840 to stay? 141 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:43.639 Are they going to sneep in the streets? 142 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:48.720 Because I can guarantee you that people have booked, the 143 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:50.360 traffic's going to be a nightmare. 144 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:53.600 Yeah. I was going to say, trying to get any 145 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:56.519 place is going to be just like the Circle. 146 00:09:55.879 --> 00:09:58.440 Of l Well Marta Well. 147 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:02.480 I mean, people could probably book hotel rooms and you 148 00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:04.919 know the perimeter, you know, down by the airport or 149 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:08.440 north up in Cobb County, maybe even Gudec County, and 150 00:10:08.480 --> 00:10:12.159 take more to the rapid transit in Atlanta down down 151 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:14.080 to the city. You know, get off of five points, 152 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:15.559 you're right there. At least that's the way it used 153 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:19.919 to be when I lived there. But it's still not optimal. 154 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:20.759 I mean. 155 00:10:21.159 --> 00:10:23.480 The other thing that I wanted to bring up is 156 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:27.639 you've got all these shows now again, a w has 157 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:31.559 had these shows booked for a while now. Even though 158 00:10:32.039 --> 00:10:37.639 they they moved the Supercard of Honor to this venue, 159 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:44.360 they still did that quite a while ago. So you know, 160 00:10:44.759 --> 00:10:47.639 I'm tired of talking, but you understand. I mean, I'm 161 00:10:47.679 --> 00:10:50.759 exhausted just talking about it. You gotta watch it, and 162 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:53.879 I don't think people are gonna walk. This is oversaturation 163 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:58.279 of wrestling, I don't think and as you said, MKA, 164 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:00.559 I just don't think it's it's right. I don't think 165 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:05.440 it's going to be wrestling my opinion, it's not smart booking. 166 00:11:06.639 --> 00:11:09.240 You know, you could argue that a w made a mistake, 167 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:11.559 and I and I kind of agree with it. Why 168 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:15.240 would you put Super Card of Honor on Friday and 169 00:11:15.360 --> 00:11:18.399 then follow it up less than twenty four hours later 170 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:20.679 with All In Texas. 171 00:11:21.080 --> 00:11:23.759 Well, you know I'll be going down there. 172 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:28.679 For all that event and stuff. It's five hours away 173 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:29.320 from my house. 174 00:11:29.360 --> 00:11:35.039 But I'm really only doing I'm just doing star Cast 175 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:36.840 and I'm going to do. 176 00:11:38.440 --> 00:11:38.759 All In. 177 00:11:38.840 --> 00:11:40.440 I'm not paying all that bunch of money just to 178 00:11:40.480 --> 00:11:44.039 go to dish it different events. I don't want to 179 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:45.759 do that. It's a big event for me and my 180 00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:49.360 wife to go down to first the first time we've 181 00:11:49.399 --> 00:11:52.639 been away from the kids since we were married, so 182 00:11:53.799 --> 00:11:55.639 we're going to enjoy our time down there. But just 183 00:11:55.720 --> 00:11:57.080 crazy off the thing that's going. 184 00:11:56.919 --> 00:11:57.840 To go on down there. 185 00:11:57.879 --> 00:12:02.240 I don't I think booking the Ring of Honor thing 186 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:07.000 was mistake. They should have done that differently. It's just 187 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:09.120 a whole lot of saturation of advance. I don't think 188 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:12.399 Tony's a clear for booking this crazy and stuff either. 189 00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:15.000 But yeah, I agree with you. 190 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:19.919 I think that, you know, look, it's not fair to 191 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:22.320 Ring of Honor and the performers at Ring of Honor either. 192 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:27.399 I mean, Rig of Honor pay per views are, in 193 00:12:27.440 --> 00:12:31.120 my opinion, every bit is good as AW pay per views, 194 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:34.240 and everybody knows you know that AW pay per views 195 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:35.679 are really really top notch. 196 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:38.639 It's kind of a shame. 197 00:12:38.679 --> 00:12:42.159 I mean, I'm gonna be watching Supercard of Honor, going 198 00:12:42.200 --> 00:12:45.080 to bed, waking up and watching All In Texas. 199 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:46.200 I mean to be exhausted. 200 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:51.919 Yes, I can play Devil's advocate here for a second. 201 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:55.600 I can see what Tony was trying to do. He 202 00:12:55.720 --> 00:12:57.639 was trying like, if All In is going to be 203 00:12:57.799 --> 00:13:01.440 like their mania, like what you usually have the night 204 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:05.080 before the day before mania, you have the big NXT show, 205 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:07.519 so he was trying to sort of do something like that. 206 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:12.759 I think sure, But you know, to Tony Kahan's detriment here. 207 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:16.440 He's got to know that WWWE is going to oversaturate 208 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:20.440 the market, and that's exactly what w they announced three 209 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:27.720 shows for in two days. I mean, it's just it's preposterous. 210 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:31.480 I mean, I do not understand. And let me put 211 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:36.840 it this way. And I've seen this comment made many 212 00:13:36.919 --> 00:13:41.559 times and I don't want to misquote anybody, so I'm 213 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:44.399 just gonna say it the way my interpretation of what 214 00:13:44.480 --> 00:13:45.159 has been said. 215 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:48.320 Okay, think of it this way. 216 00:13:49.399 --> 00:13:53.679 People that are watching aw all In because that is 217 00:13:53.720 --> 00:13:56.159 the big pay per view, I think that a pro 218 00:13:56.240 --> 00:14:00.840 wrestling fan, if they had to choose between aw all 219 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:05.320 In and Great American Bash, They're going to choose all In. 220 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:08.360 And the reason why is because they know that they 221 00:14:08.399 --> 00:14:13.360 can go and watch Great American Bash, you know, after 222 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:17.320 all In, whether it's right after All In or the 223 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:20.679 next day on Peacock, and they can fast forward through 224 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:27.080 the commercials, you know, and because of the wrestling fatigue. 225 00:14:27.600 --> 00:14:30.200 I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people with 226 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:37.320 Great American Bash Evolution two and Saturday Night's Made Event. 227 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:40.879 Don't watch these events live. I think you're gonna see 228 00:14:40.919 --> 00:14:43.600 a lot of pro wrestling fans kind of try to 229 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:46.720 pace themselves, and they know that they can watch these 230 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:49.600 events on Peacock. They're going to watch it at their 231 00:14:49.639 --> 00:14:51.799 own pace. And guess what They're going to fast forward 232 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:56.840 through the advertisements. That's going to piss off the advertisers. 233 00:14:57.639 --> 00:15:00.279 I mean, I'm just thinking from a business standpoint, it 234 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:01.440 doesn't make sense. 235 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:05.240 This whole thing just does not make sense. 236 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:09.480 Well, to be fair, if you're fast forwarding through the 237 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:12.480 ads on a WWE show, you're fast forwarding through the 238 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:14.519 whole show pretty much. 239 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:16.639 I mean look, yeah, I mean. 240 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:23.679 Hearing you got some wrestling sprinkled in with your ads. 241 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:29.320 Yeah, you know, look, I don't really want to go there. 242 00:15:29.960 --> 00:15:34.000 Okay, as far as that, because WWE has been around 243 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:38.559 for a long time, they're obviously successful. Their formula works 244 00:15:38.679 --> 00:15:42.600 for whatever reason, it works. But if you watch ae 245 00:15:42.639 --> 00:15:46.879 W and then watch WWE, there is a stark difference. 246 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:48.799 I'll give you an example. We're going to talk about 247 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:52.559 Double or Nothing coming up. Doubler or Nothing was a 248 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:57.080 four and a half hour show. Okay, Yeah, and that's 249 00:15:57.559 --> 00:16:00.960 what two hundred and seventy minutes. Out of those two 250 00:16:01.080 --> 00:16:04.799 hundred and seventy minutes, one hundred and ninety six minutes 251 00:16:04.919 --> 00:16:10.879 bell to Bell was actual wrestling. Seventy three percent of 252 00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:17.000 the show of Double or Nothing was actual wrestling, And you're, okay, 253 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:21.919 what you think about this? That's Bell to Bell. You know, 254 00:16:22.039 --> 00:16:25.600 we're not talking the other parts. Weren't all video packages 255 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:33.360 and whatnot. They were like the entrances and whatnot. You know, 256 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:37.799 so those are fun. So you're still getting entertained because 257 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:41.360 you come out there with with these entrances and they take, 258 00:16:42.039 --> 00:16:44.879 you know, a few minutes to get done. I would 259 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:50.440 if you take the entrances and the wrestling, the actual wrestling, 260 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:52.159 you're damn you're looking. 261 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:57.879 Probably around eighty percent was pure wrestling entertainment. You know. 262 00:16:58.080 --> 00:17:02.440 So look are they counting like the pre show as well? 263 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:06.400 No, No, this is just this is I did the 264 00:17:06.440 --> 00:17:13.920 count myself Double or Nothing. The main show was four 265 00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:17.160 and a half hours long, and there was one hundred 266 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:17.799 and ninety. 267 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:21.759 Six minutes of Bell to Bell wrestling Bell Bell. 268 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:26.359 I read where no match for the for Double and 269 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:27.640 Nothing was under ten minutes? 270 00:17:28.440 --> 00:17:31.440 No, No, there there were a couple of matches I 271 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:35.519 the if I'm not mistaken, I'm going by member here. 272 00:17:35.559 --> 00:17:39.079 I believe the Mercedes Monday and JB Hater match was 273 00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:42.799 twelve minutes in something, and the Hurt Syndicate match against 274 00:17:42.799 --> 00:17:45.880 the Sons of Texas was twelve minutes in something. I 275 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:50.279 mean every other match was I think the other the 276 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:52.480 two closest to that, I want to say there was 277 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:55.279 one minute match was sixteen minutes, and there were two 278 00:17:55.400 --> 00:17:56.920 matches that were nineteen minutes. 279 00:17:56.960 --> 00:18:00.519 I may be off there, but that there were a couple. 280 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:02.880 Of matches that were like thirty minutes, you know, and 281 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:05.279 you know which ones those were, you know, So. 282 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:07.799 Yeah, you know. 283 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:12.240 The point the point being here is, yeah, one hundred 284 00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:17.039 and ninety six minutes of bell to bell wrestling. I 285 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:22.359 sincerely doubt if you take if you take Saturday Nights 286 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:28.440 Made Event, Great American Bash and Evolution two and add 287 00:18:28.519 --> 00:18:33.039 up the actual wrestling in that those three events, I 288 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:36.279 have a hard time believing that they're gonna have more 289 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:40.839 wrestling than all in Texas. I mean, they may have 290 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:43.799 a little bit more, but it's not going to be like, Wow, 291 00:18:43.839 --> 00:18:45.000 look how much more they did. 292 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:50.480 Because two nights of WrestleMania two. 293 00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:55.039 Two nights of WrestleMania barely beat one night of Dynasty 294 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:57.839 in actual bell to bell match time. And you're talking 295 00:18:57.880 --> 00:19:02.680 about twice twice as long, more than twice as long 296 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:07.480 of shows, you know what I mean. So I mean 297 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:12.519 it's it's and again this adds to the fatigue. I 298 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:14.599 just I don't get it. 299 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:15.440 Again. 300 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:21.279 I'm not trolling WWE here because it's stupid to do so, 301 00:19:21.480 --> 00:19:26.480 because they're obviously very successful. All right, but I'm gonna 302 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:29.000 watch the w W show. I'm gonna take you know, 303 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:32.000 DVR and fast forward through the through the bunk. 304 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:35.519 Go ahead, chess. 305 00:19:36.039 --> 00:19:36.240 Yeah. 306 00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:38.000 I was just going to say one thing that has 307 00:19:38.119 --> 00:19:41.480 been on my mind, and it gets just it makes 308 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:43.960 matter the more I think about it. I have been 309 00:19:44.039 --> 00:19:47.960 wanting a follow up to Evolution for years, I bet 310 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:51.640 like tons of people have. But the way that it 311 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:57.599 has been booked, with this petty dickery going on, if 312 00:19:57.640 --> 00:20:00.880 you are making me choose between a W and you 313 00:20:01.480 --> 00:20:04.400 can you lose. I'm sorry. 314 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:08.960 Yeah, it's mind boggley to me, It really is. I 315 00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:13.960 don't get it. Oh look, I'm gonna get off my soapbox. 316 00:20:13.960 --> 00:20:16.240 I'm gonna give you guys a chance to talk because 317 00:20:16.279 --> 00:20:18.279 I just rambled like crazy for what. 318 00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:24.240 Ten fifteen minutes. Yeah, so let's let's talk about Double 319 00:20:24.279 --> 00:20:24.599 or Nothing. 320 00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:26.240 I don't want to get into like what were your 321 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:32.279 favorite matches and what were you disappointed in? Let's just uh, 322 00:20:32.599 --> 00:20:35.359 I'm gonna go to Jess first because Jess has been. 323 00:20:35.799 --> 00:20:37.759 Dying to talk about Double or Nothing? 324 00:20:37.799 --> 00:20:42.440 Here, Oh Jess, Jess, what were your overall thoughts on 325 00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:43.200 Double or Nothing? 326 00:20:43.240 --> 00:20:49.920 And what matches you know, just or segments or what. 327 00:20:49.799 --> 00:20:52.079 Were your what were your favorite things and if and 328 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:54.119 of course if there was anything you were disappointed in 329 00:20:54.519 --> 00:20:55.440 let us know that too. 330 00:20:57.079 --> 00:21:01.640 Well, I'm gonna be letting my nothing was really I mean, 331 00:21:01.640 --> 00:21:05.440 I guess if I had to say like alt, like 332 00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:09.640 if something I was disappointed by, It's like I was 333 00:21:09.799 --> 00:21:12.200 hoping like this there would be some sort of big 334 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:19.319 surprise return like Mariah Darby, Our Dear Sweet Lord and 335 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:21.119 Save You Ready Kingston. 336 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:22.319 Where we got book? 337 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:23.880 Yeah? 338 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:28.920 I did send yeah, all sixteen seconds of. 339 00:21:28.880 --> 00:21:36.200 Them overall though, Like I have not read Meltzer's review 340 00:21:36.480 --> 00:21:40.680 of this show yet, but just from my opinion, in 341 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:44.319 all that show and like what you said, like seventy 342 00:21:44.359 --> 00:21:48.960 to eighty percent wrestling. I would not rate a single 343 00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:52.680 match under three stars, even like the matches that were 344 00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:55.920 there to be filler would have made a fine main 345 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:59.160 event on any TV or my more or lesser pay 346 00:21:59.160 --> 00:21:59.559 per view. 347 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:02.240 Yes, I want to ask you about that, because you 348 00:22:02.319 --> 00:22:05.799 just brought up something. There were people that were legitimately 349 00:22:05.880 --> 00:22:10.400 upset at the filler matches at at all In and 350 00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:14.279 the filler matches that they basically pointed to. There was 351 00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:19.440 literally three to people considered thrill filler matches. Ocata Mike 352 00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:23.720 Bailey was one of them. The other one was well 353 00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:26.319 Brisco at Ricochet was a lot of people considered that 354 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:32.240 a filler match. And the last one was was it 355 00:22:32.279 --> 00:22:37.319 all the Trio's match, the Paragon versus whoever the hell 356 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:37.920 they wrestled. 357 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:39.160 I can't even remember. 358 00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:44.640 The doc towas amily, you know, but look, if you 359 00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:48.680 went from I'm interested in hearing your opinion on this. 360 00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:51.519 But in my mind, you had to put the paragrind 361 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:54.319 at the don Kallis family, after Anarchy and the Arena 362 00:22:54.599 --> 00:22:59.480 and before Osprey and hey Manhanna Page. You have to 363 00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:03.519 give people chanced to come down, go to the bathroom, 364 00:23:03.640 --> 00:23:09.400 you know, get their you know, get their breath back. Yeah, 365 00:23:09.559 --> 00:23:13.799 these I didn't have a problem with. Yeah, look, was 366 00:23:13.839 --> 00:23:18.079 I as entertained by the paragrin and you know the 367 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:22.799 don Cols family and Ricochet and Brisco and Ocada Bailey. 368 00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:23.880 No, I was not. 369 00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:27.400 I didn't think that they were like the oh wow matches, 370 00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:28.599 but they served the purpose. 371 00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:35.839 Yeah, I exactly. I mean, like you're not gonna put 372 00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:40.440 freaking the main event right after Anarchy in the arena. 373 00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:45.640 Just thinking about it just completely like wears me out, 374 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:50.160 just imagining that scenario. You need to like breathe, you 375 00:23:50.200 --> 00:23:55.000 need to pee sometime. You can't just get it. 376 00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:59.960 But go ahead, go ahead, Okay, no, go go there. 377 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:02.319 There's a reason why bookers know how to do the 378 00:24:02.359 --> 00:24:04.599 ebbs and flows. And sometimes I arg you a lot 379 00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:07.400 with why is this white here? But you have to 380 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:10.000 have a rest break. And I've heard nothing but good 381 00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:12.119 things about an Archie and arena. I scroll through my 382 00:24:12.200 --> 00:24:16.720 Instagram feed, it's all over the place. It reminds me 383 00:24:17.640 --> 00:24:24.200 the moment when like the buddies of the floor pops on, 384 00:24:24.279 --> 00:24:27.559 the whole arena was rocking, And that reminds me of 385 00:24:27.599 --> 00:24:30.480 what wrestling should be. It should be fun, it should 386 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:34.119 be entertaining, yes, it's hochy sometimes and cheeseball, but it's 387 00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:40.000 fun and that's what they need. And that show was 388 00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:43.079 great and the timing was great because you. 389 00:24:43.119 --> 00:24:44.559 Got to have that plateau a little bit. 390 00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:47.839 Yes, I felt bad for Paragone and the don Kallis family, 391 00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:49.119 but they put on a decent match. 392 00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:52.359 But they did, There's no question they did. They put 393 00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:53.319 on a good match. 394 00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:54.480 But it wasn't story of the night. 395 00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:58.759 Story of the night was Owen's and the Owen matches 396 00:24:58.839 --> 00:25:04.319 and Ken Arena, which from what I've heard, just blew 397 00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:05.279 everything out of the water. 398 00:25:06.599 --> 00:25:08.640 Oh yeah, I disappoint The other thing that sort of 399 00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:11.759 disappointed me is I would have had Jamie Hater go over. 400 00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:16.200 But I can't really complain too much because Mercedes mone 401 00:25:16.240 --> 00:25:18.000 versus Tony Storm is gonna kill. 402 00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:21.799 Yeah, well, you kind of look at it realistically. 403 00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:26.000 Look at Tony Storm versus Jamie Hayter and Tony Storm 404 00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:27.400 versus Mercedes Monette. 405 00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:29.160 Which one is gonna sell the best? 406 00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:32.480 It sells more tickets, it's a smart. 407 00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:36.920 Name, it's a smart choice. There was no way. 408 00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:41.440 I love Jamie Hayter, but there was no way in 409 00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:43.799 my mind, there was no way that Jamie Hater should have. 410 00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:44.400 Won that match. 411 00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:47.519 Yeah, but we'll be I'm not a big fan of 412 00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:52.039 this result myself, because what do we want Mercedes Money 413 00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:52.400 to win? 414 00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:56.400 I mean, how do you book that? To suffivee? 415 00:25:57.160 --> 00:26:00.480 Well, no, this is a commesurate to uh, you know, 416 00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:05.279 hul Cogd and Andre to Giant, you know, with significantly 417 00:26:05.880 --> 00:26:07.240 you know, smaller people. 418 00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:12.240 But yeah, yeah, it's you know, it's one of those 419 00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:13.480 things where I. 420 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:24.720 Tony Storm, Tony Storm Is and Mercedes Monet are, especially 421 00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:27.839 Mercedes Monet are kind of seen as the faces of 422 00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:29.039 the women's division. 423 00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:30.559 I mean, there's other great. 424 00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:36.599 Women, but look, I mean, you've got these two women 425 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:40.440 that are literally, in my opinion, the faces of aw's 426 00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:43.599 women division, and now you've got them going against. 427 00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:47.279 Each other at at All in Texas. It hit. It 428 00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:50.279 just hits harder than it's a talking point. 429 00:26:50.680 --> 00:26:54.240 Look, I'll say it right now, if Jamie Hayter had 430 00:26:54.279 --> 00:26:57.240 won that match, we wouldn't be talking about the All 431 00:26:57.279 --> 00:26:59.319 in Texas match with Tony Storm right now. 432 00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:03.759 What they could have done is I'm cribbing a little 433 00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:07.440 from my husband, who's pretty good at like fantasy booking. 434 00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:11.720 You could have had Hater versus Storm and then you 435 00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:17.480 could have run back Athena versus Monette for the TBS title. 436 00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:18.279 That would have been great. 437 00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:25.720 Uh yeah, go ahead, go ahead. 438 00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:30.480 No, I agree, that was I thought that's where everything 439 00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:32.319 was going there for a while. But I don't understand 440 00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:34.240 why they pulled out a thing. 441 00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:36.200 For our right trist for her to lose and go back. 442 00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:38.000 I thought they were going to do something with that, 443 00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:41.119 but uh, that didn't happen. 444 00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:43.920 So I agree, though, Yeah. 445 00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:47.240 No, I I think that what you're good to see 446 00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:49.799 with Athena Athina is going to be at All in 447 00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:54.039 Texas and she's going to win and her opponent's going 448 00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:58.079 to be THECKLA, And that makes perfect sense. I mean, 449 00:27:58.759 --> 00:28:03.920 they were partners earlier this year in stardom. They faced 450 00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:07.599 each other earlier this year in stardom, and after Athena 451 00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:13.759 defeated Decla, Athena did challenge Decla to a fight, but 452 00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:17.440 this time in the United States. So look, it makes 453 00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:24.960 perfect sense. Look think about it. Logically, if you had 454 00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:29.559 Athena against Mercedes Monet, for example, for the TBS Championship 455 00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:33.960 at All in the winner comes out looking good, the 456 00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:37.720 loser comes out looking really bad. I'm sorry they do, 457 00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:43.519 because if Mercedes Monette had lost Athena, what's the point 458 00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:47.279 because she lost to somebody who's not even technically you know, 459 00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:49.440 used on the AW. 460 00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:51.000 Roster very often, and she's not. 461 00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:58.039 But if Mercedes loses to Tony Storm, it doesn't hurt 462 00:28:58.200 --> 00:29:03.200 It doesn't hurt Mercedes at all. And Mercedes beats Tony Storm, 463 00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:07.000 it doesn't really hurt Tony Storm at all. It just means, oh, 464 00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:10.400 here's the next story for the next sixteen sixteen months, 465 00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:11.160 you know. 466 00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:12.880 So so there you go. 467 00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:16.960 It makes perfect sense to have Athena against Docklea, and hey, 468 00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:20.480 if Dekla wins, that puts her in a position to 469 00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:23.839 be a big name in Ring of Honor and frees 470 00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:27.200 up that frees up Athena to come to a w 471 00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:28.319 and wreak some havoc. 472 00:29:31.160 --> 00:29:32.119 It's just the way I look at it. 473 00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:36.039 I'm sure once, once the things become clear, we will 474 00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:38.720 know for sure what's going to be happening, you know, 475 00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:41.559 at all in Texas with you know, different matches. 476 00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:44.039 But I'll go back to Jess. 477 00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:49.279 What did you think of the Osprey versus Page match? 478 00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:52.599 Did the right person win there? And what did you. 479 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:53.160 Think of the match? 480 00:29:53.240 --> 00:30:00.480 Yes, okay, I mentioned this like in the chat like uh, 481 00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:03.599 and I mentioned this last two week. I adore both 482 00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:06.039 of those men and I would have been happy with 483 00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:11.599 either outcome, but having to pick one, I thought it 484 00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:15.039 should have been Hangar because he had the better story. 485 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.759 So I am thoroughly satisfied with how everything turned out. 486 00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:21.960 Yeah, you know, I thought it was interesting. 487 00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:23.519 You know, I don't know what the rest of you 488 00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:29.240 guys think, but the way that they built up this, uh, 489 00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:33.920 this match was, oh, will Osbury is gonna win? 490 00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:34.880 How is that? How? 491 00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:38.839 How is Hangman, Hangman and and Paige gonna lose? But 492 00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:41.200 that's not what happened. I mean, it was a pretty 493 00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:43.000 I thought it was a pretty big swerve. 494 00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:47.440 Yeah. 495 00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:50.599 Yeah, I was respect to Osbar to win, and I 496 00:30:50.680 --> 00:30:52.640 still stand by my point that I think he should 497 00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:56.680 have been. But uh, from what Fightfulle said, they were 498 00:30:56.680 --> 00:30:59.880 both trying to love before each other, which is great and. 499 00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:01.559 And so. 500 00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:03.720 But I thought Osprey would have been great, great to 501 00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:04.200 be a future. 502 00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:05.400 I have no problem with Hangman. 503 00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:09.160 I love Hangman and he deserves the second Tyler Raine, 504 00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:11.559 which is hopefully booked better than the last one. 505 00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:14.640 But I thought it should have been Ospray last night. 506 00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:20.279 Yeah, well, you know what the uh you touched on 507 00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:24.599 what Feifel reported, And apparently Tony Khan did not tell 508 00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:28.319 either Osprey or Hangman Addam Paige who is going to 509 00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:30.400 win this match until very late. 510 00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:34.559 And the report is is that Hangman Adam Paige lobbied. 511 00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:38.440 With Tony Khan to say that Osprey should win, and 512 00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:41.559 Ospray lobbied with Tony Khan to say that Hangman should win. 513 00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:48.680 That's so great, It's that's that's the It's sweet baby. 514 00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:52.559 Look that's the kind of stuff you want your locker room. 515 00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:54.039 Yeah, that's healthy. 516 00:31:56.759 --> 00:31:58.960 That's the kind of stuff you want your locker room. 517 00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:02.319 You know, you don't need the uh part of the French, 518 00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:06.920 but the CM punk bullshit stuff going on, you know. 519 00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:10.640 And look that you know hangm At and Page winning 520 00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:13.720 and now going to All in Texas. Yeah, some people 521 00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:17.079 can say that's a big fu too to see him punk. 522 00:32:18.680 --> 00:32:22.240 You know. So look, I'm all for it. 523 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:24.799 You know, you want people to talk, and this is 524 00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:27.480 getting people to talk, and I'm interested to see what 525 00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:32.119 happens like on this week's Dynamite the Fallout show, you 526 00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:36.400 know that's coming up really soon. Less as we're recording this, 527 00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:40.079 we're you know, less than twenty four hours from from 528 00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:40.599 the fall up. 529 00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:47.519 I'm interested to see what the heck happens it really is. 530 00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:49.480 But you know, one of the things that just brought 531 00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:53.960 up was there was a lot of opportunities for debuts 532 00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:55.160 and returns here. 533 00:32:57.079 --> 00:32:58.240 And really nothing happened. 534 00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:01.200 I mean, we had, you know what, we had hooked 535 00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:04.559 there for sixteen seconds basically as I said earlier, and 536 00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:07.279 gave kid and that was it. 537 00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:10.680 You know, but when you look at it, aw didn't 538 00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:11.079 need it. 539 00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:14.839 They put on arguably the best pay per view of 540 00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:20.240 their existence and they didn't need any you know, Brian 541 00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:23.640 Danielson and had them Cole showing up on the same 542 00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:26.160 night to make it talk worthy. 543 00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:32.039 Yeah, that's true. Surprises are fun, but they're not always necessary. 544 00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:39.000 Yeah, I wanted to talk about anarchy in the arena. 545 00:33:41.559 --> 00:33:45.680 When the bodies hit the floor gave me probably the 546 00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:48.839 thing that tickled me to death the most in the 547 00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:52.559 entire show, and that was when I believe it was 548 00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:56.720 Claudio Cassioli giving the big spin to Swear Strickland and 549 00:33:56.759 --> 00:34:00.759 threw him into this little speaker and as soon as 550 00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:02.880 swerve and as soon as Swear, I don't know if 551 00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:05.160 he caught it, but I was dying laughing. As soon 552 00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:08.000 as Swerve hit that speaker and shattered it into a 553 00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:12.360 million pieces, the music in the entire arena stop as 554 00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:17.760 if it was centered on that one little speaker. That 555 00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:24.119 was brilliant theater. I am sorry, you know, And yeah, 556 00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:27.480 I thought that was just clever and it was a 557 00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:32.199 little you know, it's interesting the little things that happened. 558 00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:35.719 Make a lot of a lot of sense. 559 00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:36.079 You know. 560 00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:39.800 That's what a lot of the entertaining stuff comes from, 561 00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:43.480 is the little things, not the big wow factors, but 562 00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:44.880 little stupid shit. 563 00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:45.400 Like that. 564 00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:50.320 I mentioned earlier. I think it was in the chat 565 00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:54.920 or something that basically a good narchy in the arena 566 00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:59.800 slash stadium stampede match. Good wrestling is a plus but 567 00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:03.639 basically needs an abundance of two things to be successful, 568 00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:08.320 and that's violence and comedy. And there was like a 569 00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:13.719 ton of just the right amount of both in Sunday's match. 570 00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:14.760 It was just great. 571 00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:17.719 Yeah, you know, there was, but a lot of the 572 00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:21.760 comedy was three stooges comedy where it was praying. The 573 00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:25.320 prelude to it was violence, you know. But you know, 574 00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:28.280 my daughter was at the show. It was her first 575 00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:33.239 a w Show live show, and she did say that 576 00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:36.199 her and my son in law were at the show, 577 00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:38.800 and I talked to them both after after the show, 578 00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:44.039 and they did say that their seats were terrible. They 579 00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:48.280 were you know, they basically it probably wouldn't have mattered 580 00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:50.719 if it was a dynamite or a collision, but when 581 00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:52.920 you're talking about a four and a half hour show, 582 00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:55.360 and they had to turn at an angle because they 583 00:35:55.400 --> 00:35:59.320 were sitting by the stage. They were above the stage, 584 00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:01.960 but they were sitting by the stage. They were very 585 00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:07.079 close to where when Prince Dana came out with Swerve 586 00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:11.840 on the forklift, they passed pretty much right by my 587 00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:14.079 daughter and son in law, and so they had to 588 00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:16.880 kind of turn and look at the stage the entire time. 589 00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:19.000 And of course there was a camera crane in their 590 00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:21.199 way because she showed me pictures of where her seats 591 00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:24.079 were before the show. So by the end of the show, 592 00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:28.320 they were sore. I mean, they were exhausted. But my 593 00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:32.599 daughter did say that, you know, her section, I guess 594 00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:37.119 because of that, was fairly quiet. They were not as loud, 595 00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:40.119 but they said that, you know, the rest of the 596 00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:44.079 arena was loud as hell. She didn't know whether it 597 00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:47.679 came through. She did say, here's the interesting thing. She 598 00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:52.039 said that the music, she thought the music would be 599 00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:55.280 louder in the arena, but it wasn't. She said, it 600 00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:57.840 wasn't too soft, it was just right. But she thought 601 00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:00.880 it would be like pounding, you know, it would be. 602 00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:03.960 Pounding and really loud, and she said that wasn't the case. 603 00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:06.079 But she did say that her favorite part of anarchy 604 00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:09.800 and the anarchy in the arena was when people you know, 605 00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:14.280 were chanting, please help Willow because Willow. However, how they 606 00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:17.039 did that, they she got her ear chained. 607 00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:18.039 To the ring post. 608 00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:20.599 But one of the things I was concerned about, because 609 00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:22.800 I believe it was Barry that joined us a couple 610 00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:24.400 of weeks ago, and he did go to a couple 611 00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:26.360 of double or nothings, and he did see a couple 612 00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:29.119 of anarchy and arenas, if I'm not mistaken, And one 613 00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:31.400 of the things he did say was that it was 614 00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:34.159 anarchy and arena was very hard to keep up with 615 00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:38.199 because they really didn't show on the screens what. 616 00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:40.920 Was going on. I asked my daughter. 617 00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:44.800 She missed things like, you know, the little things like 618 00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:49.320 Willow getting chained to her ear, getting chained to the 619 00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:50.639 to the ring post, and. 620 00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:52.159 She said no, she saw everything. 621 00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:56.199 She saw everything live, you know, and she wasn't confused 622 00:37:56.239 --> 00:37:58.519 at all, which I thought is a testament to a 623 00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:01.360 really good production work on it. A W's parton I 624 00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:03.719 gotta say, I thought the sound of this show on 625 00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:08.440 TV at least was really good. The music was blaring, 626 00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:13.280 the crowd sounded awesome. You know, I think they finally 627 00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:13.639 got it. 628 00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:18.800 Than Josh Matthews. 629 00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:26.679 Yeah, Jush mathis right. Was there anything in not an Adder? 630 00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:29.599 Well, we can you could bring up at her Kaana read, 631 00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:31.599 of course, but was there anything in the pay per 632 00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:33.880 view that's just surprised you? 633 00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:36.360 I mean you've already talked about, you. 634 00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:40.639 Know, maybe the Hangman ad him page and will Osprey 635 00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:45.559 result being surprising, but uh, look, what. 636 00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:48.199 Were some of your favorite moments at the pay per view? 637 00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:54.760 I'll say that I'm very impressed with Speedball Mike Bailey. 638 00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:57.559 I know he's not gonna go far on the card, 639 00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:01.480 but he's always a good match, he's always entertaining, and 640 00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:04.320 to put him with Okada, really I thought it was 641 00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:08.079 a pretty good setup between the two and I knew 642 00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:09.840 he would win, but man, he knows how to put 643 00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:12.480 on a match and he knows how to use him feet. 644 00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:13.880 And he does a good job. So I got to 645 00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:15.320 give him props where it's due. 646 00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:18.840 I agree. I was actually just gonna mention that same 647 00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:22.000 match because, like I was gonna say, it's the first 648 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:25.800 time in a long time that Okada felt like Okada. 649 00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:27.239 If that makes any sense. 650 00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:28.400 It does. 651 00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:35.760 Also, I absolutely loved a speedballs ring gear. I am 652 00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:40.920 a just like seeing that, just like seeing his r 653 00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:43.480 ring gear put a big stupid smile on my face. 654 00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:50.360 Yeah, yeah, you know what, I'm gonna go back as 655 00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:53.079 far as something that impressed me, I'd go back to 656 00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:56.920 zero hour or buy it if you will. I thought 657 00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:01.599 that the energy of Harley Cameron A against Megan Bain 658 00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:04.679 and Penelope FOURD was brilliant. 659 00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:06.320 I love that match. 660 00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:06.880 That was. 661 00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.639 They over delivered on that match so hard. It was 662 00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:13.920 that The other buying match too, with the Lucha basically 663 00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:17.920 was the Luca match that over delivered. Those are really 664 00:40:18.199 --> 00:40:21.760 really good matches that I could you could. I'm telling 665 00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:24.000 you they if they were on the main show, I 666 00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:25.159 wouldn't have been upset about it. 667 00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:27.360 Put it that way, because that was just good fun. 668 00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:32.639 So very fun. When I said like nothing under three stars. 669 00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:35.400 I was including those matches in my assessment. 670 00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:38.800 Yeah, you know. 671 00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:40.599 I but again, I gotta give it to the women 672 00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:44.519 because they knocked it out of the park. And again 673 00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:47.920 they didn't need a run in or they didn't need, 674 00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:51.119 you know, a debut or return or whatever to make 675 00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:54.960 it great. And that was a great match. I want 676 00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:57.599 to see that match again, let me put it that way, 677 00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:01.280 and that's I just have to say it. 678 00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:11.000 I thought to buy that buy in match was fantastic though. 679 00:41:11.880 --> 00:41:15.280 Yeah, did you guys, Were you guys disappointed at all 680 00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:17.960 in any of the matches. Let's talk about Tony Storm 681 00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:22.039 and Mina Shirakawa. Uh, you know, people were saying, maybe 682 00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:25.760 this is the where Mariah May would come back again. 683 00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:27.480 I think it was the right call just to have 684 00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:30.119 Storm and Shirakawa go at it. And after the match, 685 00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:34.480 you know, they showed their respects to each other by 686 00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:36.599 sticking their tongues down each other's throats. 687 00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:39.880 But that's neither here nor there. But I think that's 688 00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:41.320 that's up story for the future. 689 00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:47.159 I'm all for tongue kissing replacing a handshake at the 690 00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:47.880 end of a match. 691 00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:50.840 Yeah, I mean, I was kind of disappointed that Okada 692 00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:54.159 and Bailey didn't do it. 693 00:41:54.239 --> 00:42:01.360 So, yeah, broke back stuff. 694 00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:03.760 Yeah, Kenny. 695 00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:06.760 I'm sure Kenny would do it, Oh for sure, Yeah 696 00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:07.639 he would do that. 697 00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:11.519 Yeah, you know, anything to set Chip Cornette off. 698 00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:19.599 Yeah, yeah, Yeah. 699 00:42:19.800 --> 00:42:21.880 I'm really impressed with what those two. 700 00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:25.719 I'm really impressed with Mina as well as how long it's, 701 00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:29.400 how far along she's coming, and how quickly the the 702 00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:33.000 A audience is taken to her. I think she's going 703 00:42:33.079 --> 00:42:35.920 to be a future star along with the rest of 704 00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:38.239 that division. She's gonna be wanting to keep up with. 705 00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:44.000 Yeah, I mean, look, I mean the way drawback would 706 00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:47.920 be to shirk Kyla is that you know, she's not 707 00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:51.679 a spring chicken. You know, she's as far as women 708 00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:56.800 wrestlers go, she's one of the older ones in a w. 709 00:42:56.679 --> 00:43:00.440 For sure, you know, so really absolutely. 710 00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:04.719 I mean I think there's Emmy Saker, of course is older, 711 00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:08.159 but Mina Shikkaw is what is she She's either thirty 712 00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:12.519 seven or thirty eight, so no, she doesn't look it, 713 00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:16.880 but you know, and she she didn't start wrestling until 714 00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:19.920 her thirties, so she didn't she doesn't have. One of 715 00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:23.760 the things with stardom is that especially during the Rossio 716 00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:27.440 Goawa era. Look at Starlight Kid and as At Azumi. 717 00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:30.760 I think Azumie was eleven or twelve, but she started 718 00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:35.639 would startom, you know, uh, and Starlight Kid was like 719 00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:39.639 thirteen or fourteen, and they're still there. But you know, 720 00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:43.360 look a Zumi's twenty two years old. Half of her 721 00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:46.599 life she's been wrestling now. And you know, if you 722 00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:50.000 pay attention to stardom, stardom is not like WWE or 723 00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:52.280 AW because. 724 00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:58.559 They wrestle well over one hundred matches a year. 725 00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:02.599 Each of the wrestlers, especially the top wrestlers, will wrestle 726 00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:09.480 over one hundred matches a year, whereas say a AW wrestler, Espally, 727 00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:13.079 when I'm talking about the women's of course, I think 728 00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:15.719 Mariah May had maybe forty matches last year, and she 729 00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:18.440 was the one that had the most matches in AW 730 00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:22.360 last year, So I mean there's a big disparity there. 731 00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:25.559 So the wear and tear, what I'm saying is that 732 00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:28.880 the wear and tear on the body in UH in 733 00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:30.920 stardom is going to be a lot more than say 734 00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:35.599 WWE and and AW, and that, frankly is one of 735 00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:38.639 the reasons why I believe that A lot of these 736 00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:44.320 uh startup women like Carrie saying, you know Sky, you know, 737 00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:50.360 et cetera, Mariah May, Megan Bain, even Tony Storm. They 738 00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:55.440 come to America, whether it's AW or WWE, because frankly, 739 00:44:56.639 --> 00:44:58.079 the wrestling scheduled. 740 00:44:57.719 --> 00:44:58.800 Is just a lot easier. 741 00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:02.039 M hmm. 742 00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:07.079 So it is, it is what it is, you know. 743 00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:12.920 But I had no idea that Mino was the Joshi DDP. 744 00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:18.320 Yeah, she's uh, she's she's not a young woman, you know, 745 00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:21.159 but you would never know that by looking at her. 746 00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:24.400 I mean, she's she doesn't move, but I mean, look. 747 00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:27.440 I remember when I was thirty six, thirty seven, thirty 748 00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:29.280 eight years old. I was like, oh my god, I 749 00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:31.639 can't even tie my shoes anymore. She's out there doing 750 00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:34.280 what she does. More power to her, you know. And 751 00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:37.000 you gotta look look at these you know, John Moxley 752 00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:40.800 and and Adam Copeland and all. You know, these people 753 00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:46.400 have gone through it, you know, and they're still out 754 00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:49.840 there doing it. I have nothing but respect for people 755 00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:52.079 to get do that. I don't know how they do it. 756 00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:56.760 Look at I was gonna up like dusting. It's like, 757 00:45:57.719 --> 00:46:00.679 I know he's up there and it's still wrestle man. 758 00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:08.280 He's I'm gonna say it, he's better than. 759 00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:11.960 Because he can actually kind of keep up with. 760 00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:12.800 These other guys. 761 00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:16.360 But I definitely definitely stilled down. Obviously good of his age, 762 00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:19.280 but he can still go up there. But on a 763 00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:19.960 show man. 764 00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:26.280 Yeah, yeah, you know, I kind of want to talk 765 00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:29.280 about her sneck and an Sons of Texas now that 766 00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:33.599 you brought it up, Steve, because look, everybody was expecting 767 00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:38.000 for something to go on, you know, tom foolery between 768 00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:40.639 m JF and Bobby Lashley. 769 00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:42.360 And and Shelton. 770 00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:46.119 Benjamin almost called them, called him Benjamin Shelton like Hulk Coogan. 771 00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:50.039 But uh, nothing happened. 772 00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:53.559 In fact, they actually kind of played into something like 773 00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:57.159 Bobby Lashley was like wagging his finger at m JFF. 774 00:46:57.239 --> 00:46:59.880 You can see like the spark of disappointment going at 775 00:46:59.880 --> 00:47:02.639 they broke out of the big smiles. They're wrist bumping 776 00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:08.199 and the hogging and congratulating each other. And look, MGF 777 00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:11.760 came out stronger in the hurt syndicate that he did 778 00:47:11.800 --> 00:47:13.519 going in, and I don't think a lot of people 779 00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:15.800 expected it, but I thought it was a great move 780 00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:20.239 on their part to keep that story going because eventually 781 00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:22.880 you know, something's gonna happen and they're gonna fall apart, 782 00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:25.920 but why do it real soon? Let it play out 783 00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:26.559 for a little while. 784 00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:31.079 I think it's a brilliant strategy. I mean, if you 785 00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:36.039 have like an odd duck that you think is causing dissension, 786 00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:38.679 you're sort of going to underestimate your opponents because you 787 00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:42.719 think there's a fracture there. So what Bobby and Max 788 00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:46.599 did was played that up until they you know, they 789 00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:49.559 basically played their opponents with it. It was pretty brilliant. 790 00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:55.719 Actually, yeah, I mean, look, I didn't have a problem 791 00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:57.400 with this. I thought this match was going to be 792 00:47:57.400 --> 00:47:59.800 one of the weaker matches on the card. That perhaps 793 00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:03.360 it was, but that was because the match card was 794 00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:07.039 so strong and the wrestling was even stronger than the 795 00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:11.519 card presented. But I had no problem with this match. 796 00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:14.800 And hey, Sammy actually got to speak, because he's been 797 00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:17.039 like a deaf mute back there for a while, you know, 798 00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:18.800 for the last few weeks, just. 799 00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:21.440 Letting Dustin Rhodes do all the talking. Well he probably 800 00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:22.039 got to speak. 801 00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:30.360 And yeah, you know, going back to anarchy in the arena, 802 00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:36.440 did you think about the the bucks, the the way 803 00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:40.280 they came out at their enteran Steve and the long 804 00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:44.360 introduction that that Roberts had to do. 805 00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:51.039 It was pretty much the entire Emancipation Proclamation paraphrase. 806 00:48:53.960 --> 00:49:01.239 Maybe the Gettysburg Address thrown in there a little bit. Anyway, 807 00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:04.800 I fully thought I would look. I thought that they 808 00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:11.440 would like, you know, take off their revolutionary war garb 809 00:49:11.519 --> 00:49:13.840 and wrestle the match and or no, they wrestled the 810 00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:16.159 entire match looking like minute men. 811 00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:18.480 That was just preposterous. 812 00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:22.239 I seriously thought the drumming fife music is what we 813 00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:24.000 were going to stick with it. Thought we were gonna 814 00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:26.719 like be treated to ten straight minutes of drum and 815 00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:27.599 fife music. 816 00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:32.000 Yeah, and I love that it did go to I'm 817 00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:38.440 so excited for because that song is like the most 818 00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:41.639 I'm sorry that it was the dumbest thing that Tony 819 00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:43.920 Kohan has ever done. And I think he may have 820 00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:49.119 done that just to set up double or nothing, just 821 00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:49.679 to use it. 822 00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:53.440 And because I can't stand that song. 823 00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:57.840 I cannot stand it, you know, and it's it's just 824 00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:01.800 not a wrestling song, and it's justpid and what they 825 00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:04.519 killed it off like after thirty seconds. I loved it, 826 00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:11.239 so so that's that, you know, Hey, I never maybe 827 00:50:11.320 --> 00:50:13.639 enjoyed when the body's at the floor a lot more. 828 00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:15.000 Put it that way. 829 00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:20.039 I thought that was a great song, got everybody hype. 830 00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:21.280 I mean that's. 831 00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:25.360 I'm not a super fan of that group, but I 832 00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:27.199 thought it was a little apropos and then but when 833 00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:28.119 they switched, I'm. 834 00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:31.440 So excited I died. Uh that was hilarious. 835 00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:34.960 That's just a little aw humor for it for you. 836 00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:37.840 But Saturday night to fight at a night for fighting 837 00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:38.760 is what I was hoping for. 838 00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:40.039 Yeah. 839 00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:45.760 Well, you know, look, nothing says you know, professional wrestling 840 00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:49.320 and anarchy better than the Pointer Sisters. I mean, they 841 00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:54.280 go hand in hand, so one other matches one of 842 00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:56.280 the Is there anything else that you guys want to 843 00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:57.480 talk about as far as. 844 00:50:57.360 --> 00:50:59.559 This pay per view goes? 845 00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:02.480 Really, the only thing that we did talk about really 846 00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:07.119 is h Garcia Nigel against FTR, And of course we 847 00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:11.119 really didn't speak anything about Briscoe and Ricochet. 848 00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:15.400 You know, these were I will disagree with anyone who 849 00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:21.679 calls that a stretcher match a filler. That's one thing 850 00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:26.280 I absolutely adore about Ricochet is that he is a 851 00:51:26.440 --> 00:51:29.760 pathetic goofy wiener until he's not. 852 00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:36.400 Mm hmmm, yeah, I mean I get but I but 853 00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:39.119 you know, look, I absolutely think that that was a 854 00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:39.760 filler match. 855 00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:42.239 There was nothing at stake in that match at all. 856 00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:46.639 Uh it was. It was a filler match. Again. 857 00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:50.840 You know, that doesn't mean that it wasn't entertaining, because 858 00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:52.239 it was. 859 00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:54.480 You know, I'm just saying there was. It was. It 860 00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:55.239 was a filler. 861 00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:57.840 Match the pin and plus it was a setup. Like 862 00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:02.920 the setup is uh Mark losing the match being carted 863 00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:05.920 off in an ambulance, and then the payoff is later 864 00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:09.519 in an archy. Rien later in a anarchy when he 865 00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:11.400 comes back covered in blood. 866 00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:15.800 Yeah yeah, you know, didn't even like wash his face 867 00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:17.039 or take off his shirt. 868 00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:19.320 You know, just do you imagine. 869 00:52:19.039 --> 00:52:21.360 Being because I was, like, what two and a half 870 00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:25.719 hours later, wearing a bloody shirt that entire time, which 871 00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:30.159 I'm sure he probably didn't do. But that's what I 872 00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:34.360 just don't get it. I mean that I would. That's 873 00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:40.480 just that's just nasty. There's the other way to put it. 874 00:52:41.079 --> 00:52:41.880 What do you expect? 875 00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:46.320 Yeah, well there you go. But yeah, I mean. 876 00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:52.480 The Nigel I was actually disappointed in in the u 877 00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:58.679 FTR versus Nigel and Garcia match because Nigel really wasn't 878 00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:01.480 in the match very very much. It was just basically 879 00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:04.400 Garcia getting the stop beat out of him, you know. 880 00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:08.559 And I again, I think it may be one of 881 00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:12.519 those things where there's this story there. Maybe this is 882 00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:16.880 where Garcia turns, because let's face it, people were so 883 00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:21.320 concerned about Nigel, they just left you know, Garcia the 884 00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:23.960 ring to get the stop beat out of him. 885 00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:26.800 I didn't understand the point of there has to be 886 00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:30.119 some point to this, Matt massive, but I just don't 887 00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:30.400 see it. 888 00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:31.840 I don't you know. 889 00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:33.639 We're all big fans of Nigel, but I don't see 890 00:53:33.639 --> 00:53:38.119 the point in FDR other than turning them heel. So 891 00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:42.440 we'll Garcia goes. Maybe Daniel Garcia does turn. He needs 892 00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:44.960 a refresher and I could see him joining FTR, but 893 00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:49.119 I don't or I don't know, but Garcia needs something 894 00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:50.000 to step it up. 895 00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:56.519 So I gotta little agree. And I am saying that 896 00:53:56.559 --> 00:53:59.519 as somebody who loves Danny. I love Danny, I love 897 00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:05.079 his chemistry with Daddy Magic. They're great. That yeah, something. 898 00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:08.719 Point he needs to get away from Danny Magic and 899 00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:09.760 and be his own person. 900 00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:10.400 I think. 901 00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:17.360 I like Danny Magic, but Daniel Garcia has to be 902 00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:21.079 his own person if he wants to be taken seriously. 903 00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:26.119 Yeah, yeah, I guess you're right. But how would joining 904 00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:28.920 FTR solve that problem? Because he's then to be jumping 905 00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:31.840 from Daddy Magic to Stokely Hathaway. 906 00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:35.440 See, I'm not the creator Hathaway either, so I can't. 907 00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:40.360 I have a big fan of Stokely though, so I could. 908 00:54:41.000 --> 00:54:43.440 Yeah, I could not have Soakley and a W and 909 00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:44.039 I be fine. 910 00:54:46.159 --> 00:54:48.800 Well, I want to talk a little bit about the 911 00:54:48.840 --> 00:54:53.880 applications of double or Nothing. Look, we already know that 912 00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:56.480 hangman Autam Page is going to face John Moxley it 913 00:54:56.559 --> 00:55:02.519 all in and hopefully win the championship and put an 914 00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:08.800 end to that bullshit story. That's I feel like I felt. 915 00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:11.719 I felt like I've been held prisoner of war, you know, 916 00:55:12.599 --> 00:55:16.239 for months now. Just get it over with. Already have 917 00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:18.840 the match tomorrow on Dynamite. 918 00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:19.880 Just get it over with. 919 00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:23.559 I really, honestly, I really don't want to watch that match. 920 00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:27.079 But I will say this, I said the same I 921 00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:29.400 said the same thing about if you remember the last 922 00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:33.519 time the Entangment Adam Paige and John Moxley faced him 923 00:55:33.719 --> 00:55:37.039 and faced each other at a pay per view, uh, 924 00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:40.679 on this podcast, I said, I really don't want to 925 00:55:40.719 --> 00:55:42.960 watch this match because they had three don'll be the 926 00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:45.599 third match, and like it seemed like in two weeks. 927 00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:48.840 Of course it wasn't, but they had a pretty back 928 00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:50.719 to back to back matches. I was like, I am 929 00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:53.079 not looking forward to this match, and I ended up 930 00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:54.639 loving the hell out of that match. 931 00:55:55.159 --> 00:55:57.320 I just you know, and I hate Crow big time 932 00:55:57.400 --> 00:55:58.320 on this podcast. 933 00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:00.679 But we also. 934 00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:03.199 Yeah, well, of. 935 00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:05.239 Course we also know that Mercedes Monet is going to 936 00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:08.639 face Tony Storm for the aw Women's Championship at all 937 00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:14.159 in Uh, did you see any other implications you know, 938 00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:19.280 put forth here? Uh, as far as other matches and 939 00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:23.239 other feuds, do you think anything there's better beginning? Look, 940 00:56:23.719 --> 00:56:26.119 you saw a little bit of discourse between Hook and 941 00:56:26.159 --> 00:56:28.239 Samoa Joe that was pretty interesting. 942 00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:33.440 Uh, and I call me crazy, call me crazy here 943 00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:35.960 for me this year Kawen did some heelish stuff in 944 00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:41.440 that match with Tony Storm. Mm hm you know so. 945 00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:46.159 Yeah, I've heard rumors that they're supposed to be a 946 00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:50.119 casino ladder match for women at all when it has 947 00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:54.239 not been confirmed, of course, but but but I can 948 00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:57.039 see that happen for a Number one contendership or or 949 00:56:57.119 --> 00:56:58.880 life they do where they grab it and they get 950 00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:01.679 a match when they want to or whatever. That would 951 00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:02.320 be interesting. 952 00:57:03.840 --> 00:57:07.239 I love those. I would definitely take a woman's casino match. 953 00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:10.599 I would like to see a woman's casino match, but 954 00:57:10.679 --> 00:57:11.280 not at all. 955 00:57:11.159 --> 00:57:16.280 In that that takes away from from Mercedes and Storm. 956 00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:20.000 You don't have a number one contender match before the 957 00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:22.960 number one contender ever gets a chance to vuy for 958 00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:23.480 the title. 959 00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:26.440 You know, I don't like that at all and that 960 00:57:26.440 --> 00:57:27.599 that would be a mistake for me. 961 00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:34.639 Yeah, where does Osprey go from here? Seriously? Where does 962 00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:39.280 Jamie Hanner go from here? Where does speedball Mike Bailey 963 00:57:39.360 --> 00:57:42.119 go from here? This is some of the things that 964 00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:44.559 I think we may get addressed and you know, the 965 00:57:44.599 --> 00:57:48.239 next couple of weeks or you know, Look, we've got 966 00:57:48.679 --> 00:57:55.719 Dynamite on Wednesday. I think I think Collision is on 967 00:57:55.719 --> 00:58:04.039 on Saturday. I think it's However, next week, just so 968 00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:08.400 we you know, we will be doing All the Talk 969 00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:12.559 tomorrow night after Dynamite to give our thoughts on that. 970 00:58:12.719 --> 00:58:15.360 But next week I'm going to already tell you we're 971 00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:18.760 not doing an episode of All the Talk because next 972 00:58:18.800 --> 00:58:23.360 week is fighter Fest and Dynamite is four hours long, 973 00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:24.960 so we're not. 974 00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:26.599 Staying up until two o'clock. 975 00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:38.639 Yeah, so I postponing the at for a week, you know, sorry, guys, 976 00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:42.119 But yeah, I'm not I'm definitely not gonna do that. 977 00:58:44.400 --> 00:58:50.760 Yeah, I mean so, I really see AW remember starting 978 00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:54.320 to band together a little bit more, and hopefully I'm 979 00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:58.119 starting to see some cracks in the Death Riders and 980 00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:04.000 because something's gonna happen where if he does beat him 981 00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:07.480 at all in Death Riders are done, they're no longer 982 00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:11.679 powerful anymore. So I really do think something's gonna build. 983 00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:14.079 He's gonna get a group of people behind him to 984 00:59:14.119 --> 00:59:16.400 watch his back so they can be a fair match, 985 00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:18.800 because that's been the story this whole time, of interference, 986 00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:21.519 interference left and right, new people coming in. 987 00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:24.920 I think it's gonna be those two together. 988 00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:27.079 Hopefully not a Texas death match like I said before, 989 00:59:27.360 --> 00:59:29.079 but I just want to fair fight between the two, 990 00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:32.840 and I think we're gonna see a team AW coming 991 00:59:32.840 --> 00:59:33.920 together a little bit more. 992 00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:35.079 Yeah. 993 00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:39.199 Well yep, yeah, he said, like what's uh, where does 994 00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:41.840 Osprey go from here? He's already made his intentions known. 995 00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:46.480 His role at least threw All In is to be 996 00:59:46.519 --> 00:59:51.360 a Hangman's second. As Hangman agreed to do the other 997 00:59:51.400 --> 00:59:53.800 way around if Osprey won, right. 998 00:59:54.000 --> 00:59:59.840 Yeah, yeah, you know, I hate the Harpod the death Writers, 999 01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:06.679 but they suck. They they are They are not a 1000 01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:11.320 powerful team at all. Everything about them is not everything. 1001 01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:13.639 There have been a couple of moments that I did enjoy, 1002 01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:18.159 but for the most part they are absolutely unwatchable. 1003 01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:22.280 You know, there are no Death Writers fans. I'm dead. 1004 01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:26.760 I'm sorry. I may be one of the lone death 1005 01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:27.840 Writers apologists. 1006 01:00:27.960 --> 01:00:31.239 And well you should stay off the aw fan hub 1007 01:00:31.320 --> 01:00:36.119 subreddit because many, many, many people have been sick of 1008 01:00:36.119 --> 01:00:39.039 the Death Writer since I don't know, November. 1009 01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:41.960 Yeah, I know, I know. 1010 01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:48.599 They are passe, they are overdone. They are a male 1011 01:00:48.760 --> 01:00:52.280 version or mostly male version of the Outcast. The Outcast 1012 01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:55.039 didn't work, and they were smart enough to kill that 1013 01:00:55.480 --> 01:00:58.360 kill that shit off, you know, pretty quickly. 1014 01:00:58.440 --> 01:01:00.000 Yeah, but just. 1015 01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:02.039 It was. 1016 01:01:04.159 --> 01:01:10.800 No the outcasts. We pretty much as a unit agreed 1017 01:01:10.840 --> 01:01:13.920 that the Outcast. The only thing the Outcast did was 1018 01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:18.039 make the because there was four of them, and they 1019 01:01:18.039 --> 01:01:21.000 were always together, you know, at least three of them 1020 01:01:21.039 --> 01:01:24.360 were always together at every match that the Outcast had, 1021 01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:29.159 whether it was singles or doubles, and the only thing 1022 01:01:29.199 --> 01:01:33.519 that the Outcast did was made the AW women in 1023 01:01:33.719 --> 01:01:37.360 mass look like absolute idiots because they would come out 1024 01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:42.119 one on three every single week and it just got 1025 01:01:42.159 --> 01:01:43.199 to be preposterous. 1026 01:01:44.400 --> 01:01:47.079 It was groundhog Day. It was the same thing over 1027 01:01:47.119 --> 01:01:47.760 and over again. 1028 01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:50.599 And you can't say nothing came of it. If there's 1029 01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:53.320 no outcast, we don't get Tony Storm in his current form. 1030 01:01:53.480 --> 01:01:56.920 So yeah, well, you know, look, you know, hopefully we'll 1031 01:01:56.960 --> 01:02:01.199 get I don't know, somebody we were you get a haircut, and. 1032 01:02:02.679 --> 01:02:05.239 He'll be a good wrestler again. I don't know. 1033 01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:09.719 Well, all I'm saying is I honestly and sincerely, I'm 1034 01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:13.280 gonna tell you something. There was a part there was 1035 01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:17.360 a section during Anarchy in the arena. There was a 1036 01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:21.400 section there was a segment of that match. I think 1037 01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:23.679 it was after the actual match was over and the 1038 01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:27.039 Team AW if you were, were walking up the ramp 1039 01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:30.480 and what was sitting there right in the middle of 1040 01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:36.000 the ramp. Do you remember, Right in the middle of 1041 01:02:36.039 --> 01:02:39.880 the ramp when the entire Team AW walked by, Sitting 1042 01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:43.400 right at their feet was the briefcase with the AW 1043 01:02:43.400 --> 01:02:46.599 World Championship belt at it. What did they do? Kenny 1044 01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:50.480 Omega kicked it down the ramp. I never wanted to 1045 01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:55.480 strangle Kenny Omega more than I wanted to at that point. 1046 01:02:55.639 --> 01:02:59.840 You know, the briefcase is a joke. The death Writer 1047 01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:03.400 this is a joke. It doesn't work, It's horrible. 1048 01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:10.159 It'll be a huge sigh of relief when if Hangman 1049 01:03:10.280 --> 01:03:13.679 beats Mosley, which I don't want to say if it 1050 01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:16.760 needs to be win, but there's people who are scaring 1051 01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:19.440 me out there, who are saying a certain other person's 1052 01:03:19.480 --> 01:03:21.760 gonna be it, and it's gonna take a while to 1053 01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:25.000 do it, and if it does, I'm I let's just 1054 01:03:25.039 --> 01:03:28.239 say that if if Page doesn't win, I will probably 1055 01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:33.400 not watch AW till it's until Moxley loses. 1056 01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:37.280 Now, I will say this in all honesty, if Page 1057 01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:42.199 doesn't win at all, in We're probably not gonna be 1058 01:03:42.280 --> 01:03:47.360 I'm probably not gonna be doing this podcast. Yeah, seriously, 1059 01:03:47.440 --> 01:03:48.960 I mean it's just a plain I mean, it's just 1060 01:03:48.960 --> 01:03:52.000 being honest, because I will have lost. 1061 01:03:52.679 --> 01:03:53.400 I am strang. 1062 01:03:54.079 --> 01:03:59.519 The only saving grace for the death Writers, reasonably for me, 1063 01:03:59.679 --> 01:04:04.679 is that they've not been used as much I guess 1064 01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:06.119 as they were in the past. 1065 01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:12.280 You know, uh, because they are not as dominant either. 1066 01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:14.719 They take they take what they give. 1067 01:04:18.360 --> 01:04:21.320 Sorry, I was speaking of things that suck. Have you 1068 01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:25.239 anybody really noticed that the correlation of AEW's uptick in 1069 01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:28.480 quality seem to coincide with Jericho, leaving just something to 1070 01:04:28.519 --> 01:04:29.000 think about. 1071 01:04:31.239 --> 01:04:34.280 Uh, I do not agree with that. 1072 01:04:34.440 --> 01:04:40.360 Actually, I think the uptick in quality has been mostly 1073 01:04:40.440 --> 01:04:44.559 correlated to uh well several things. 1074 01:04:46.519 --> 01:04:47.920 Just getting rid of the. 1075 01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:50.440 I was being a little tongue in cheek there. 1076 01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:53.639 Yeah. I hate to say it because I don't like 1077 01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:56.519 to come down on wrestlers that I actually think are good. 1078 01:04:57.119 --> 01:05:05.199 But when once aw look therese there was obviously backstage 1079 01:05:05.239 --> 01:05:11.159 problems with a W and a W is released a 1080 01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:15.480 couple of wrestlers now, uh, few wrestlers recently that. 1081 01:05:16.960 --> 01:05:22.760 You can see a difference. Look, Ricky, Ricky Starks was 1082 01:05:23.159 --> 01:05:23.519 not as. 1083 01:05:23.480 --> 01:05:27.119 Good as he thought he was, you know, and uh, 1084 01:05:27.320 --> 01:05:30.400 you know, I loved Panta and I loved Ray Phoenix, 1085 01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:34.639 but they just they just seemed like they were more 1086 01:05:34.639 --> 01:05:37.000 of a problem. And the you know, and I'm speaking 1087 01:05:37.039 --> 01:05:38.639 out of my ass here, but they just seem like 1088 01:05:38.679 --> 01:05:41.719 they're more of a problem in the locker room than anything, 1089 01:05:42.239 --> 01:05:46.639 you know, Miro, more of a problem out Malachi Black, 1090 01:05:46.639 --> 01:05:48.880 who I adored more of a problem again. 1091 01:05:50.639 --> 01:05:52.519 These all the a W. 1092 01:05:52.719 --> 01:05:55.880 Releases that are going to WWE are big deals of 1093 01:05:56.039 --> 01:06:02.280 w W, you know, and that's it'll be interesting. 1094 01:06:02.400 --> 01:06:03.400 I'm sorry, it's just. 1095 01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:11.000 It's interesting to me, But I don't know, it's. 1096 01:06:09.280 --> 01:06:12.039 It's yeah, You're probably right. I just couldn't resist the 1097 01:06:12.079 --> 01:06:15.119 opportunity to take a dig it. I just don't like 1098 01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:16.000 him very much. 1099 01:06:16.400 --> 01:06:19.360 Yeah, I mean, look, you know Jericho did is not 1100 01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:21.639 a mad Jericho is a main eventor who was not 1101 01:06:21.679 --> 01:06:22.800 a main eventor anymore. 1102 01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:27.599 Well, I think he's found his role. I think he 1103 01:06:27.679 --> 01:06:31.280 understands that he's helping you, people like Danny Garcia and 1104 01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:32.239 stuff like that. 1105 01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:33.239 Build him up. 1106 01:06:33.280 --> 01:06:36.239 And I I really don't think that he's ever going 1107 01:06:36.360 --> 01:06:40.360 to go to not be aw once he retires. He's 1108 01:06:40.360 --> 01:06:43.480 gonna stay there and said because he feels appreciated. And 1109 01:06:43.599 --> 01:06:46.559 back to your point, Kelson, I feel like like the 1110 01:06:46.639 --> 01:06:48.920 black cloud has been lifted ever since we got rid 1111 01:06:48.960 --> 01:06:54.159 of those guys and more more positivity has came our way. 1112 01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:57.360 And I've seen, just to chatter through the internet, I've 1113 01:06:57.360 --> 01:06:59.480 seen a lot of people saying, hey, I noticed a 1114 01:06:59.599 --> 01:07:02.360 change of a and I may start watching it again. 1115 01:07:02.760 --> 01:07:04.519 Yeah, and you see a lot a lot of people, 1116 01:07:04.800 --> 01:07:10.280 you know, just getting tired of the of WWE shows. 1117 01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:14.320 I mean, I just don't understand how. 1118 01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:19.320 Again, obviously they got a gigantic audience. I just don't 1119 01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:23.880 see how you can watch video packages commercials for hours 1120 01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:28.079 a week. It just doesn't make any sense put that 1121 01:07:28.079 --> 01:07:34.559 shit on YouTube. But it's obviously working. So I can't say, well, 1122 01:07:34.599 --> 01:07:37.519 that's just you know, and I wanted to. Don't get 1123 01:07:37.559 --> 01:07:40.519 me wrong, I wanted to work. I'm not a WWE hater. 1124 01:07:41.119 --> 01:07:43.800 All I'm saying is I can't sit there and watch 1125 01:07:43.800 --> 01:07:45.679 a show. I gotta have it on DBR so I 1126 01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:48.280 can fast forward through the you know, frankly to bullshit. 1127 01:07:48.960 --> 01:07:51.400 Yeah, they got to change their their their style. 1128 01:07:51.559 --> 01:07:56.119 I think, like I said before, I've been to a live. 1129 01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:58.760 Event and it was Chinese torture. 1130 01:07:59.199 --> 01:08:03.360 To me, there's a huge stark difference of being in 1131 01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:07.519 the middle action and watching product place matter product placement 1132 01:08:07.599 --> 01:08:11.159 and seeing a huge prime bottle there and just. 1133 01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:12.840 It it drags on. 1134 01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:14.840 I love AW just for the fact that it's there, 1135 01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:19.319 You're in the midst of it, and for me, the 1136 01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:20.279 audience is better. 1137 01:08:22.439 --> 01:08:24.880 Yeah, I mean, I don't have to leave me I 1138 01:08:24.920 --> 01:08:27.239 do not have a problem with product placement. I don't. 1139 01:08:28.039 --> 01:08:31.239 To me, if you have a problem with pop product placement, 1140 01:08:31.399 --> 01:08:33.600 you know a serious problem with it. You know, it's 1141 01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:36.039 kind of petty, you know, because it doesn't take away 1142 01:08:36.039 --> 01:08:38.560 from the wrestling matches. You know, what takes away from 1143 01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:41.079 the wrestling matches is not having wrestling matches. 1144 01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:47.880 I'll make a different there. I mean, do you really 1145 01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:52.399 take the Viking Raiders seriously when they come out wearing 1146 01:08:52.560 --> 01:08:57.239 cartoony Clash of Klan's cosplay? I don't. I thought that 1147 01:08:57.319 --> 01:08:59.720 was horrible, and I love the Viking Raiders. 1148 01:09:01.279 --> 01:09:05.000 What about will Osprey coming out with an Assassin's Creed's outfits. 1149 01:09:05.119 --> 01:09:09.279 There's no difference, you know, I don't think so. It's 1150 01:09:09.319 --> 01:09:10.960 just it's it's, you. 1151 01:09:10.920 --> 01:09:16.039 Know, difference that Will Ospray loves and appreciates Assassin's Creed. 1152 01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:20.640 It works with his character. He's the aerial assassin, his 1153 01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:24.960 move is the hidden Blade. Things he chose himself because 1154 01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:29.439 he loves Assassin's Creed. I don't think the Viking Raiders 1155 01:09:29.439 --> 01:09:31.399 have ever played plans in their life. 1156 01:09:31.960 --> 01:09:34.199 Well, you have to ask them. Maybe they do, maybe 1157 01:09:34.239 --> 01:09:36.720 they don't. You know, It's just one of those things. 1158 01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:41.359 You know, but I I can't fault somebody for doing that. 1159 01:09:41.680 --> 01:09:45.119 I really can't, you know, I you know, I mean, 1160 01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:48.439 do you really think timeless Tony Storm has ever watched 1161 01:09:49.119 --> 01:09:52.680 Turner classic movies once in her life? Probably not. She 1162 01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:57.960 doesn't sound like it, but that's her character. Just being 1163 01:09:57.960 --> 01:10:01.000 honest here, you know, I've I don't think you can 1164 01:10:01.039 --> 01:10:04.880 take characters seriously, you know, that's all I'm saying. Yeah, 1165 01:10:05.079 --> 01:10:09.000 you know Mercedes Monet when she comes out with her gears, 1166 01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:10.439 a lot of times her gears. 1167 01:10:10.159 --> 01:10:17.760 Paying homage to something, and I like that. Uh you know, yeah, 1168 01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:23.560 yeah it was it was neat. 1169 01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:26.359 I liked it, but it was like one of those things. Okay, 1170 01:10:26.439 --> 01:10:29.119 did swear where that because it looked cool? Or did 1171 01:10:29.159 --> 01:10:32.640 he like that because you know he's a. 1172 01:10:32.239 --> 01:10:39.800 Lifelong Predator fan? You know? Well, you know, look, I. 1173 01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:43.520 The only thing you can nippick, you know, personally, what 1174 01:10:43.680 --> 01:10:46.760 I can nick pit nitpick is the death writers suck, 1175 01:10:46.800 --> 01:10:48.399 and they've they've always sucked. 1176 01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:49.159 You know. 1177 01:10:49.319 --> 01:10:53.479 They're literally the most uninteresting thing that I've ever seen. 1178 01:10:53.239 --> 01:10:55.800 In a w or none. 1179 01:10:55.840 --> 01:10:59.640 I mean, the only thing, the only thing in a 1180 01:10:59.840 --> 01:11:01.960 that AW has done that has been. 1181 01:11:03.319 --> 01:11:03.640 More. 1182 01:11:04.960 --> 01:11:07.119 There's two things that I could think of that have 1183 01:11:07.239 --> 01:11:11.600 been more annoying to me than or not more annoying, 1184 01:11:11.640 --> 01:11:12.560 but as annoying to me. 1185 01:11:12.600 --> 01:11:13.439 As the Death Writers. 1186 01:11:13.479 --> 01:11:17.439 One was j car Gill's TBS Championship rain because it 1187 01:11:17.479 --> 01:11:20.920 was pointless, it was meaningless, it was repetitive. 1188 01:11:21.479 --> 01:11:23.479 And Orange Cassidy's first reign. 1189 01:11:23.279 --> 01:11:27.840 As the International Champion. I mean it was the same 1190 01:11:28.039 --> 01:11:31.760 match over and over and over again, and it kind 1191 01:11:31.760 --> 01:11:35.039 of made it was bad because if you listen, go 1192 01:11:35.079 --> 01:11:37.199 back and listen to these podcasts, we were like, we 1193 01:11:37.239 --> 01:11:40.399 were big fans of Orange Cassidy, and half of us 1194 01:11:40.439 --> 01:11:42.199 were like, we don't want to see this anymore. 1195 01:11:43.239 --> 01:11:47.000 Yeah, my mind probably be the Devil storyline. I got 1196 01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:49.880 so tired of that after a while and it petered 1197 01:11:49.920 --> 01:11:54.960 out anyway, So that would probably have to be second 1198 01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:55.479 place for me. 1199 01:11:56.159 --> 01:12:00.159 Yeah, the collective. I don't think anything in aw has 1200 01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:03.800 ever been worse than the Nightmare Collective. And I speak 1201 01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:07.199 this is somebody who at the time had a huge 1202 01:12:07.279 --> 01:12:08.399 girl crush. 1203 01:12:08.159 --> 01:12:08.520 On a. 1204 01:12:10.079 --> 01:12:11.199 On a Missus Rhodes. 1205 01:12:11.239 --> 01:12:11.439 There. 1206 01:12:11.520 --> 01:12:15.119 I thought she was a gorgeous woman, but she is 1207 01:12:15.119 --> 01:12:21.800 a gorgeous womanous woman, Brandy, I love you, but this 1208 01:12:21.880 --> 01:12:22.720 is just awful. 1209 01:12:23.279 --> 01:12:26.000 Yeah, I mean, look, you know, the way I look 1210 01:12:26.039 --> 01:12:28.600 at it is I think one of the strengths of 1211 01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:33.600 AW right now is that the wrestling product is filled 1212 01:12:33.720 --> 01:12:39.000 with wrestlers that can wrestle, and if they are maybe 1213 01:12:39.159 --> 01:12:45.199 a little bit behind, uh, they are showing tremendous potential. 1214 01:12:46.439 --> 01:12:49.279 And there are and it's diverse. I mean, there's it's 1215 01:12:49.359 --> 01:12:52.680 not other than the death writers, which, to be frank 1216 01:12:52.760 --> 01:12:54.560 with you, they have changed it to where it's not 1217 01:12:54.640 --> 01:12:57.760 the same thing weekend and week out. It's been a 1218 01:12:57.840 --> 01:13:00.359 lot better in the lastcar. It still sucks, but at 1219 01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:03.960 least it's not just like, is this a repeat? Haven't 1220 01:13:03.960 --> 01:13:06.600 I seen this episode before? You know, at least they're 1221 01:13:06.640 --> 01:13:09.239 doing something new just as awful, but it's at least 1222 01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:13.560 it's new. But there are just you know, that's that's 1223 01:13:13.560 --> 01:13:17.840 the point I think with AW is that the promos 1224 01:13:17.840 --> 01:13:19.760 are better, the production. 1225 01:13:19.560 --> 01:13:23.159 Is better, the wrestling is better, and it hasn't. 1226 01:13:22.960 --> 01:13:27.239 Been dragged down by people that are, you know, a 1227 01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:30.600 detriment to the locker room. Again, they've released a lot 1228 01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:34.479 of these wrestlers and things have improved, you know, And 1229 01:13:35.800 --> 01:13:39.640 I don't know, and hopefully we continue along this line 1230 01:13:39.680 --> 01:13:43.920 and don't bring in wrestlers that just can't wrestle, you know, 1231 01:13:44.039 --> 01:13:45.920 And if they can't wrestle, just put them on the 1232 01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:48.960 mic and let them be a character. You know, you 1233 01:13:48.960 --> 01:13:53.279 don't have to wrestle to be, you know, a star 1234 01:13:53.439 --> 01:14:00.640 in wrestling. You know, it's as simple as that. You know, 1235 01:14:01.119 --> 01:14:04.239 played in the strengths right now. The strengths of AW 1236 01:14:04.319 --> 01:14:07.680 is their wrestlers. Ay, w's got some damn good wrestling. 1237 01:14:11.199 --> 01:14:12.159 Hell, yes it does. 1238 01:14:13.880 --> 01:14:16.520 So I'm looking forward to Dynamite tomorrow. 1239 01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:22.800 I really am interested in, you know, implications that arise 1240 01:14:22.960 --> 01:14:25.880 from double or nothing, and how they're going to build 1241 01:14:25.960 --> 01:14:30.039 stories toward All In. One thing I will say, and 1242 01:14:30.119 --> 01:14:36.319 I know something's not here tonight, but All In is 1243 01:14:36.359 --> 01:14:41.680 on July twelfth. I believe that's seven weeks away. We 1244 01:14:41.880 --> 01:14:46.520 cannot go until July eighth before we get half the matches. 1245 01:14:47.439 --> 01:14:48.159 We're all in. 1246 01:14:48.439 --> 01:14:53.840 They've got to get these matches set in the next 1247 01:14:54.039 --> 01:14:58.199 at max, the next three weeks, at max, the next 1248 01:14:58.239 --> 01:15:00.439 three weeks. We've got to have a majority of the 1249 01:15:00.520 --> 01:15:07.760 matches set for all In. Because you just can't pussy 1250 01:15:07.800 --> 01:15:11.479 put around with this anymore. You gotta get you know 1251 01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:13.760 what's coming. You've got to get the story out there. 1252 01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:17.680 Yeah, I think with the fighter Fest being more or 1253 01:15:17.760 --> 01:15:20.399 less a free pay per view, that should be a 1254 01:15:20.479 --> 01:15:23.960 huge help in building things up pretty quickly. He's not 1255 01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:26.359 the one that four hours. 1256 01:15:26.720 --> 01:15:29.920 Yeah, you know, it's unfortunate because I have heard I 1257 01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:36.760 think Fightful select Is has reported that there are quite 1258 01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:39.920 a few AW wrestlers that are banged up right now, 1259 01:15:40.319 --> 01:15:43.680 which makes sense. I mean, Double or Nothing was brutal. 1260 01:15:44.359 --> 01:15:47.880 You know, I know the bucks are banged up. I 1261 01:15:47.880 --> 01:15:51.239 would be surprised if I still I mean. 1262 01:15:52.800 --> 01:15:53.239 Whatever. 1263 01:15:53.439 --> 01:15:58.960 I mean, you know, that's that's the thing. So I 1264 01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:03.199 hope that fight or Fest has it off wrestlers healthy 1265 01:16:03.319 --> 01:16:04.640 to make it a pay per. 1266 01:16:04.600 --> 01:16:06.960 View on DV I guess, is what I'm trying to say. 1267 01:16:07.399 --> 01:16:09.560 Yeah, that's true. I mean it just came out like 1268 01:16:09.760 --> 01:16:14.720 to like late yesterday or early today that Drew McIntyre's 1269 01:16:14.760 --> 01:16:16.720 gonna be taking a leave of absence because he can't 1270 01:16:16.720 --> 01:16:20.279 turn his neck all the way left. And I hate that. Wrestlers, 1271 01:16:20.840 --> 01:16:25.000 any athlete, really feel that they have to work hurt 1272 01:16:25.319 --> 01:16:26.640 till it gets to that point. 1273 01:16:27.439 --> 01:16:29.359 Yeah. Well, AW is famous for that. 1274 01:16:29.479 --> 01:16:36.000 I mean, you know, MGF worked hurt. You know, there's 1275 01:16:37.239 --> 01:16:40.199 a lot of wrestlers worked or Julia Hart worked hurt. 1276 01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:44.680 Yeah, I know they do, but I'm just saying it 1277 01:16:44.880 --> 01:16:46.479 sucks that they feel that they have to. 1278 01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:47.199 Yeah. 1279 01:16:47.359 --> 01:16:48.960 Yeah, And I think you're like, look, and you know, 1280 01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:54.039 I was upset because Drew McIntyre to me, he's the man. 1281 01:16:55.239 --> 01:16:55.920 He is the man. 1282 01:16:56.039 --> 01:16:59.359 I mean, by far, my favorite w w W wrestler 1283 01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:02.359 because he just has the look, he has the talent. 1284 01:17:03.960 --> 01:17:06.359 I just I just like everything he does. 1285 01:17:06.439 --> 01:17:10.079 So, you know, I really really wish he gets healthy 1286 01:17:10.159 --> 01:17:15.199 soon and takes the timing needs to come back and healthy, 1287 01:17:15.279 --> 01:17:20.920 you know. So it's as simple as that. Well, that'll 1288 01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:23.640 do it for the show. I think we've talked about 1289 01:17:23.720 --> 01:17:25.359 pretty much everything that we can talk about. 1290 01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:26.880 I'm really looking forward. 1291 01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:30.119 To the fallout show of AW Dynamite, and we'll be 1292 01:17:30.159 --> 01:17:32.880 back here tomorrow night, right after Dynamite to talk about 1293 01:17:32.880 --> 01:17:37.720 it again. I'm just looking forward to it. I think 1294 01:17:37.760 --> 01:17:41.640 it's going to be tremendous. I hope it's not a 1295 01:17:41.720 --> 01:17:45.279 letdown because double or Nothing was so good. I hope 1296 01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:48.359 it's not not a letdown. So I'm going to go 1297 01:17:48.479 --> 01:17:52.119 back on to the AW Phantom sum Reddit and look 1298 01:17:52.119 --> 01:17:57.920 at the crazy amount of conversation that's going on there 1299 01:17:57.920 --> 01:18:01.439 because it's really exploded because of uple or nothing. It's 1300 01:18:01.560 --> 01:18:06.439 just a lot of opinions going on between aw fans 1301 01:18:06.479 --> 01:18:10.600 and w W fans. It's it's uh, it's it's it's 1302 01:18:10.640 --> 01:18:12.720 a fun time to be a moderator and it's a 1303 01:18:12.800 --> 01:18:15.000 horrible time to be a moderator at the same time. 1304 01:18:17.199 --> 01:18:17.359 Right. 1305 01:18:18.199 --> 01:18:21.880 Well, yeah, like now that all these shows are going 1306 01:18:21.920 --> 01:18:23.359 to be announced all at the. 1307 01:18:23.359 --> 01:18:25.960 Same time, you know how much we're gonna have to 1308 01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:26.439 be doing. 1309 01:18:27.399 --> 01:18:29.000 Tony would get me started. 1310 01:18:29.199 --> 01:18:35.159 To go around deleting everybody talking smack about the death Riders. 1311 01:18:36.039 --> 01:18:39.319 Well yeah, if you you take about half the death 1312 01:18:39.319 --> 01:18:42.239 Writer more than half, well more and a half of the. 1313 01:18:42.199 --> 01:18:44.439 Death Writer post off the subred if you did that. 1314 01:18:45.119 --> 01:18:46.560 But anyway, uh. 1315 01:18:46.359 --> 01:18:49.760 We're gonna call it a night and we will see 1316 01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:52.000 you right after Dynamite this week. 1317 01:18:53.880 --> 01:18:56.439 Again. I I just I'm looking forward to it. 1318 01:18:56.560 --> 01:19:01.239 So anyway, Yeah, for the a w ont Podcast team, 1319 01:19:02.479 --> 01:19:03.159 Thanks guys. 1320 01:19:03.279 --> 01:19:09.319 This is Kelson. Good night everybody. Good night. Eddie Kingston