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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty The Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>He combs his former girlfriend back on the stand today

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<v Speaker 1>in his New York sex crimes trial, Cassie Ventura telling

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<v Speaker 1>Jersey for Another Day about the physical abuse she says

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<v Speaker 1>she suffered from him during their ten yure relationship. He's

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<v Speaker 1>accused of forcing victims to take part in drug and

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<v Speaker 1>sex field parties over two decades. Faces life in prison.

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<v Speaker 3>You're soon going to be able to walk through a

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<v Speaker 3>part of Santa Monica with an adult beverage in your hand.

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<v Speaker 3>They had a six hour meeting last night, but the

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<v Speaker 3>city Council in Santa Monica voted unanimously to approve the

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<v Speaker 3>open container ordinance that will allow you to walk along

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<v Speaker 3>the Third Street promenade between Wilsher and Broadway with alcoholic

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<v Speaker 3>beverages in hand. You can buy them at businesses along

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<v Speaker 3>the promenade from eight in the morning until two in

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<v Speaker 3>the morning, and then carry those drinks in the approved

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<v Speaker 3>to go cups that are not glass or metal.

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<v Speaker 1>The Democratic parties showing signs of life as the President

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<v Speaker 1>continues his tour in the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 2>It's where we kick off swamp Watch.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheap and a liar.

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<v Speaker 4>And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we got The real problem is that our leaders

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<v Speaker 5>are done.

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<v Speaker 2>The other side never quits.

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<v Speaker 6>So what I'm not going anywhere so that you train

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<v Speaker 6>the swap.

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<v Speaker 4>I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by

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<v Speaker 4>what has been.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, vans have always been going at President, but

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<v Speaker 7>they're not stupid.

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<v Speaker 8>A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.

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<v Speaker 4>Whether people voting for you were not swamp Watch, They're

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<v Speaker 4>all countered.

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<v Speaker 1>The more I think about this plane, the more I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just a symbol. It's never going to be

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<v Speaker 1>put into service. It's just a gift.

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<v Speaker 4>It is what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump's Peace and Prosperity Tour there in the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 1>Making a stop in Cutter today, the President ouns announcing

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<v Speaker 1>new deals between Cutter and Boeing and the Department of Defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Boeing will be selling bless you one more.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on h he's being shy.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell me what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Boeing will be selling billions of dollars worth of planes

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<v Speaker 1>two Cutter DoD will be selling our top tier drones.

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<v Speaker 1>He also pledged his commitment for peace in the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 1>All the while the backdrop here the DNC is flying

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<v Speaker 1>a Cutter a logo banner over President Trump's Florida residents today.

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<v Speaker 6>Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, he's getting a lot of criticism over his

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<v Speaker 1>plans to accept a luxury plane from Cutter. They say

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<v Speaker 1>it'll temporarily serve as Air Force one. I believe that

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<v Speaker 1>as much as I believe Alcatraz will be put back

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<v Speaker 1>into service, I just don't see this plane ever be

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<v Speaker 1>putting into service.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and we talked about the Emollument's clause in the Constitution,

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<v Speaker 3>which prohibits an official in the United States from receiving

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<v Speaker 3>gifts from foreign heads of state, generally the approval of Congress.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not going to a person, as President Trump

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<v Speaker 3>pointed out in his truth social post, It's going to

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<v Speaker 3>the Air Force, and then after it serves according to

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<v Speaker 3>their plan, after it serves as Air Force one, it

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<v Speaker 3>would then be given to the Trump Library. So which

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<v Speaker 3>is still the appearance of impropriety is too much. It's

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with you too much. Never going to go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and the only thing that's going to do is

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<v Speaker 1>line the Trump family pockets after he leaves office. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money to be made in the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money, and they know that. And like

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<v Speaker 1>you said yesterday, I think Trump did realize he left

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money on the table during his first

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<v Speaker 1>term and that's not going to happen this time around.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, at least two billion has flowed into Trump

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<v Speaker 1>companies in just the last month. Two billion real estate, cryptocurrency,

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<v Speaker 1>a private club that's going to open in Washington with

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<v Speaker 1>a five hundred thousand dollars membership fee. I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>are made and money hand over fist off, this this rain.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the stories that President Trump has repeated over

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<v Speaker 3>the last couple of days is his fat friend story.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you heard this?

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<v Speaker 2>This is great.

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<v Speaker 3>It started with his executive order to reduce the price

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<v Speaker 3>of prescription drugs and used his fat friend as an

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<v Speaker 3>example of someone who is on a GLP one we

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<v Speaker 3>assume and realized that the thirteen hundred dollars dose here

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<v Speaker 3>in the United States would only cost about eighty bucks

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<v Speaker 3>in other parts of the world.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I'll tell you a story. Friend of mine

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<v Speaker 5>who's business man, very very, very top guy. Most of

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<v Speaker 5>you would have heard of him. A highly neurotic, brilliant businessman,

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<v Speaker 5>seriously overweight, and he takes the fat shot drug and

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<v Speaker 5>he called me up and he said.

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<v Speaker 4>President.

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<v Speaker 5>He used to call me Donald. Now he calls me president.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's nice. Respect.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's a rough guy, smart guy, very success, very rich.

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<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't even know how we would know this, but

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<v Speaker 5>because he's got comments the president, could I ask you

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<v Speaker 5>a question. What I'm in London and I just paid

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<v Speaker 5>for this damn fat drug I take. I said, it's

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<v Speaker 5>not working.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes on into the specifics of the cost of it,

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<v Speaker 3>eighty eight dollars I think for the dose in London

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<v Speaker 3>versus thirteen hundred dollars for his cost here in the

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<v Speaker 3>United States, which is a crack up story. It's one

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<v Speaker 3>of those stories that Trump knows is funny. He knows

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to get reactions. But if you're the fat friend,

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<v Speaker 3>you're being held out there to flail in the wind

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<v Speaker 3>with your foot like.

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<v Speaker 1>It appears that this is one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>Trump thinks is a weakness overweightness or what have you.

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<v Speaker 4>Which is weird because he clearly is not in the

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<v Speaker 4>best shape.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the thing is is he's lost a lot of weight,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's been a lot of talk that he took

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<v Speaker 1>a GLP one. He has no shame in that game.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder the fact that he's doing that in saying

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<v Speaker 1>it just it's not the right thing to say. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not nice. It's not right nice. And do you know

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<v Speaker 1>many people that you're affecting with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know. But it won't matter. It

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<v Speaker 2>won't matter.

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<v Speaker 3>Pete Boudagi is making some headlines. He's been making his

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<v Speaker 3>rounds on podcasts recently and was asked about President Biden's

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<v Speaker 3>decision to seek a second term, and he admitted that

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<v Speaker 3>it may have hurt deck Democrats and that with the

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<v Speaker 3>benefit of hindsight, he says, I think most people would agree,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's the case. But he did say he wants

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<v Speaker 3>to turn the page and look to the future, which

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<v Speaker 3>apparently is a memo that's gone around. Here's Hakeem Jeffrey's saying,

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<v Speaker 3>we're looking to the future.

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<v Speaker 8>There's a number of different revelations coming out about President

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<v Speaker 8>Joe Biden's declimb with recent books. Is it helpful for

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<v Speaker 8>your caucus for these to come out now?

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<v Speaker 4>And would you want Biden to campaign for House Democrats.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not looking backward.

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<v Speaker 4>We're looking forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Particular moment, here's Chuck Schumer also saying we're looking forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you really not have any idea that he was

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<v Speaker 2>not fit to serve a second term?

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<v Speaker 1>Casey, we're looking forward this because you lost a presidential election,

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<v Speaker 1>and is that not Joe Biden's responsibility for deciding to

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<v Speaker 1>run again.

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<v Speaker 4>We're looking forward.

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<v Speaker 6>That's it. That's it.

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<v Speaker 4>There you go.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the state of the Democratic Party as of right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Up next, the movie subscription service that has turned into

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a cult.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, people treating their subscription to this movie app as

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<v Speaker 1>a core personality trait.

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 3>The Sean Diddy Combs trial. Of course, his former girlfriend

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<v Speaker 3>Cassie Ventura is on the stand continuing testimony. And what

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<v Speaker 3>they're showing now, prosecutors are showing some of the still

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<v Speaker 3>images taken from videos of these freak offs, and she

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<v Speaker 3>testified that there were plenty of people that saw him

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<v Speaker 3>physically abuse her. She has testified that she was forced

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<v Speaker 3>into these raging sex parties. And now some of the

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<v Speaker 3>images from the videos of those are being shown to

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<v Speaker 3>the jury. The gallery can't see them. They're not being

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<v Speaker 3>shown to the lawyers. Lawyers got their own sort of

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<v Speaker 3>a binder, I guess, full of copies of them.

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<v Speaker 4>But the jury is reacting.

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<v Speaker 3>CNN has a reporter in the courtroom and said one

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<v Speaker 3>female juror aloed out a deep breath, rested her hand

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<v Speaker 3>on her chest as an image was placed on the

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<v Speaker 3>monitor before her. Another male juror looked at the screen

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<v Speaker 3>at one of the images in his eyes appeared to

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<v Speaker 3>move away very quickly. Another male jur immediately looked down

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<v Speaker 4>So it's just getting nasty in there.

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<v Speaker 1>The AMCA list is a subscription service.

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<v Speaker 1>The AMCA list. It's not an excuse. Exclusive club membership

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<v Speaker 1>costs about twenty to twenty eight bucks a month. Anyone

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<v Speaker 1>older than thirteen can join, so no xless exclusivity there.

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<v Speaker 1>But as the Wall Street Journal writes this up, it's members, however,

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<v Speaker 1>brag about this movie subscription service as if they're part

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<v Speaker 1>of United Airlines Inventation only Global services status. They post

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<v Speaker 1>about it on social media. They treat it like a

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<v Speaker 1>court personality trade. They try to enlist friends and family

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<v Speaker 1>members to join, quite like you know, a cult. The

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<v Speaker 1>main benefit of the AMC stubs A list membership is

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<v Speaker 1>the right to go up to four movies a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Members get to use a special VIP line to buy concessions.

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<v Speaker 1>They can add friends and family members to their entourage

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<v Speaker 1>for a showing, as long as they're also in the

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<v Speaker 1>A list. I feel like they're paying people to be

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<v Speaker 1>this emphatic about the A list status, right, Like there's

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<v Speaker 1>something in each post. If somebody's posting about their AMC

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<v Speaker 1>A list status or their their membership, don't you think

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<v Speaker 1>that they're getting a perk for that? Because why else

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<v Speaker 1>would you post constantly about the fact that you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to see four movies a week?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I don't know, it's not a it's you're in

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<v Speaker 3>the cult, yes, and I love it.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's like super easy to get your friends to

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<v Speaker 7>I'm just like hey, want to watch a movie with me?

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<v Speaker 4>All of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you pay a month.

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<v Speaker 7>Like twelve, I think, like it's not box crazy. Oh wait, no,

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<v Speaker 7>Well, now with my new girlfriend Diane, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Clear this hey, yeah, Keana, get rid of the rest

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna find out all about Diana.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, we we went we were supposed to watch Friendship yesterday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>and like we canceled it with air list and then

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<v Speaker 7>And then we canceled it again because we got bored

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<v Speaker 2>They were busy.

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<v Speaker 7>Exactly, I got you, so we got you know what

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, that's nice. It's like Southwest Airlines really exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh so, how many movies though, do you go

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<v Speaker 2>Would you say? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Definitely, like four to five.

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<v Speaker 1>So that makes sense for you because the average movie

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<v Speaker 2>As many movies as you want, that's quite the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>That's three food free movies a month if that's your

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<v Speaker 2>But the bragging about it? Have you noticed this is there?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 7>I do feel it for certain people that like go

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<v Speaker 4>But here's the other question. How close are you to

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<v Speaker 7>I'm in Hollywood, so like I go to the Grove

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but the one in Hollywood is it? Are you walkable?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 3>I see that's the part that would be a if

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<v Speaker 3>I lived somewhere close that it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was walkablere's your movie theater, it's probably five miles, six miles.

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<v Speaker 1>Most I think there's movie theaters closer mostly to people

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe that's what it, because that would that would make

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<v Speaker 3>sense if you're in a city, for example, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel like I've always been with about a

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<v Speaker 4>It's always close to your heart.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's I think it's interesting though, that a

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<v Speaker 1>big perk for you is to be able to block

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<v Speaker 1>out seats, because when I have gone to the theater,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not necessarily packed these days.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been a long time since.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the last packed show that I saw was Oppenheimer.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a great deal if you see four or

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<v Speaker 1>five movies, even if you see three movies a month,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five bucks for the service to seat three movies

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<v Speaker 1>a month, where you'd be spending eighty dollars and you're

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<v Speaker 1>spending twenty five that's a great deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, i'd brag about that too.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, sign me up for the cult also Sinners.

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<v Speaker 7>Right now, it's like trying to see that in like

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<v Speaker 7>what you call it imax, like it's just sewed out

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<v Speaker 7>like that. And like any Marvel film or like any

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<v Speaker 7>superhero film, those sell out very quickly, and having the

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<v Speaker 7>A list, you can like block out like two days,

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<v Speaker 7>you know what I mean. Like sometimes it's I get

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<v Speaker 7>a little greedy and I got like, yeah, the day

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<v Speaker 7>seats later.

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<v Speaker 4>But I say, it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of cool that you can get in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like that. Uh, Diane or Diana?

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<v Speaker 7>Diane?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Diane? Yeah, it's not my mother, is it? That'd

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me where'd you meet Diane on the apps? On

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<v Speaker 1>the apps? And how long has this love been blossoming?

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<v Speaker 4>Three months?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Elmer?

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<v Speaker 4>Why aren't you keeping secrets?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, let's take a break and then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>come back and find out more about Diane. Gary and

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 6>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>New edition.

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<v Speaker 1>Since Elmer's been with his girlfriend and for three months,

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of parents will they be? Go, Elmer, how

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<v Speaker 1>many kids have you talked about having together?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh? My god?

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<v Speaker 8>If he has an answer to this, though, Elmer and

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<v Speaker 8>I are like, we should be brothers if he genuinely

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<v Speaker 8>three months in knows how many kids the two of

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Elmer, Florias yours? Has it come up yet?

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<v Speaker 7>Uh no, But we have talked about, like what kids

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<v Speaker 7>would look like if you know what I mean, mixed

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<v Speaker 7>race couple.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh oh, well that's the same thing. That's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 4>Three months in race couple.

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<v Speaker 2>Kids are always the cutest.

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<v Speaker 3>Quantity you haven't talked about. I mean, you talked about

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<v Speaker 3>quality quantity, and I think that's that's actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we talking two or five?

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<v Speaker 4>You think how many would you, like, Elmer if you

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<v Speaker 4>had your brothers? Well, it depends how much money.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm making good point. That's a smart zero.

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<v Speaker 8>If they're not that expensive early on, they get expensive

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<v Speaker 8>when they're like teenagers.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah no, let's see maybe two, maybe adopt one?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh so you go three or one of those two

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know, maybe like one and done.

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<v Speaker 8>It seems to be a growing trend in younger folks.

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<v Speaker 8>With all due respect him, right, you're obviously yeah, adoption.

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<v Speaker 8>The adoption thing, like people like they grow up saying

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<v Speaker 8>that they want to have maybe one of their own,

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<v Speaker 8>but they definitely want to adopt another one.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that? Because why is that? Elmer? Why would you

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<v Speaker 2>like to adopt one?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>It's just been like since I was a kid, I've

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<v Speaker 7>always been like, there's a lot of kids out there,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>Is that? But the reason why I think this is

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<v Speaker 8>interesting is this is like almost like a cultural hive

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<v Speaker 8>mind thing that is within a generation. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm sure and an economist could dig into what is

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<v Speaker 8>the psychological inspiration behind it? But yeah, I hear it

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<v Speaker 8>constantly from people who don't have kids yet that there

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<v Speaker 8>are more and more people are talking about adopting. It's

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<v Speaker 8>interesting where it used to be like a joke when

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<v Speaker 8>that was supposed to be a negative thing, but now

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<v Speaker 8>people are like, no, this is what everybody should be doing.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're wondering why Gary's face looks like that, it's

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<v Speaker 1>because he's a pure bred family believe in any sort

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<v Speaker 4>At Gary, why would you bring this up at this time?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, if we're going to talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>Dogs, we're gonout. I see what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm just saying, yes, I don't have any that one

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<v Speaker 9>must have really landed, had good job.

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<v Speaker 6>We were all.

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<v Speaker 2>Here to see the downfall of I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to say I have adopted people in

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<v Speaker 3>my family. I mean, my brother in law was adopted.

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<v Speaker 3>But wait, doesn't count. And I'm trying to think of

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<v Speaker 3>it's okay, it's all right.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's humans.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, we should be more communal and this should

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we should take care of like the kids that

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<v Speaker 4>don't have like parents.

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<v Speaker 7>That's very nice, protect each other and like, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 7>cool to have your own kids. But imagine if everyone

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<v Speaker 7>just like adopted and like to just be like less

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<v Speaker 5>In the world.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, as an adopted person, I would rather have

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want that surprise box. As an adopted kid,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't want me. I wouldn't want to open that

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<v Speaker 1>most of my life.

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<v Speaker 8>One of the things that I brought in to talk

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<v Speaker 8>about I think kind of addresses this thing. I'm not

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<v Speaker 8>trying to shorn this in at all. I'm sorry if

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<v Speaker 8>I'm ruining him per segment. But no, it's that the

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<v Speaker 8>idea that I found this article that they did another

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<v Speaker 8>study that basically corroborated with this new belief that more

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<v Speaker 8>of what people are is genetic than it is there's

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<v Speaker 8>more nature than there is nurture. That and it's not

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<v Speaker 8>trying to discount a nurture situation at all, where your

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<v Speaker 8>environment and all that stuff does have an impact on you,

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<v Speaker 8>but kind of there's this concept that's growing that there's

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<v Speaker 8>at your core, your genetics decide who you are and

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<v Speaker 8>what's going to happen to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe that, no, because I know both sides.

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<v Speaker 1>I know my parents, and I know my biological mother,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am just like my mother my mother. I've

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<v Speaker 8>So even like personality and things like that, because I

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<v Speaker 8>think there's a tendency to be like I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I am very much into the I've learned, at least

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<v Speaker 1>from the small sample of information I have for my

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<v Speaker 1>own situation, that it's much more nurture over nature.

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<v Speaker 4>Fascinating. Well, I guess we're done, then, I guess yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess it's I mean, it's it's got to

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<v Speaker 2>be different.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like there's a study for everything to say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, together, it can all you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Come on, well and you can't. This goes to what

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<v Speaker 4>you say. I'm easily persuaded.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a study for that.

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<v Speaker 4>Your kids are younger than my kids. I think I

447
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<v Speaker 4>have a better.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm closer to a conclusion than you would be, yes,

449
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<v Speaker 3>because I have a better idea of what their adult personalities.

450
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<v Speaker 3>We're like sixty eight years ahead of me, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm correct, sixty eight years six six to eight years.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I thought you're making a Shannon now old I am.

453
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<v Speaker 4>You've got him on the ropes from your ear. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you're red dog.

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<v Speaker 1>That was pretty good right now, he's laughing inside somewhere face.

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<v Speaker 3>But the idea that the genetics, I mean, we raised

457
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<v Speaker 3>our kids in the same house at the same time,

458
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<v Speaker 3>like they were, they're they're not that far apart in

459
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<v Speaker 3>age two years, two two and a half years. So

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<v Speaker 3>the idea that they can come out and be very

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<v Speaker 3>different people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my brother and I are very different.

463
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<v Speaker 1>Both adopted, separate adoptive fam separate families, you know, and

464
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<v Speaker 1>we are very different like your kids.

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<v Speaker 2>My brother and I are just.

466
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<v Speaker 4>Kids, are two different people.

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<v Speaker 8>In my exactly, there's but again to me, there's the

468
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<v Speaker 8>core of who they are, right. They still they're very

469
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<v Speaker 8>different and they're better people than I am. But at

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<v Speaker 8>the core they still have my softness, my sappiness.

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<v Speaker 1>There's like innate stuff in your personality that is genetics,

472
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<v Speaker 1>but then there's the stuff that shapes who you are,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that that stuff is more prominent than

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<v Speaker 1>the innate stuff.

475
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<v Speaker 2>And my brother is really good.

476
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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to fixing cars, just like his biological

477
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<v Speaker 1>family was.

478
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<v Speaker 2>On both sides. My family can't fix a car.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad couldn't fix anything, but he has that innate gift.

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<v Speaker 1>But his entire personality is the family personality like you

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<v Speaker 1>know as well.

482
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<v Speaker 4>It should be.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, there also could be argued that, you know,

484
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<v Speaker 8>our brains are kind of wired to find these connections

485
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<v Speaker 8>and to solve the things that don't make sense, and

486
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<v Speaker 8>so we're going to see things the way that we want.

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<v Speaker 3>To see that total, and then how much how much

488
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<v Speaker 3>would your genetics are your genetics malleable? Can can they

489
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<v Speaker 3>change from generation to generation? Whereas you know Shannon's brother's

490
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<v Speaker 3>great at fixing cars but has a very unique personality.

491
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<v Speaker 3>Does his kid do his kids do they have his

492
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<v Speaker 3>personality because his genes changed. I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>that'd be much more of a different scientific question.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 8>I think if I think I was going to try

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<v Speaker 8>to oversimplify what this study was saying is that I

497
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<v Speaker 8>think it's like they're trying to argue that it's a

498
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<v Speaker 8>sixty forty split and that your environment has maybe a

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<v Speaker 8>forty percent or less influence on who you are at

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<v Speaker 8>your core being. Like I would almost argue that if

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<v Speaker 8>you had not had a positive experience with your adopted family,

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<v Speaker 8>that you would probably have a differing perspective as well,

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<v Speaker 8>Like you would probably look at it and not want

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<v Speaker 8>to see the similarities.

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<v Speaker 2>You're assuming I had a positive experience.

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<v Speaker 4>Well based. Okay, she is very good at this.

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<v Speaker 3>Drock Karn will continue justin.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I feel like I do see how it hurts.

509
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<v Speaker 4>It hurts.

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<v Speaker 8>A break, I'm gonna take a get an emotional neroic.

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 6>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 8>And he was like the oyster knife was like, let

514
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<v Speaker 8>me see your inside.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think it was better that you were able

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<v Speaker 3>to get some of it out. I agree, Yeah, Gary

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<v Speaker 3>and Shannon kf I live everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what I thought. I was like, I'm freaking

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<v Speaker 2>justin right now, and I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not bad. I mean, you get premature gray, but

521
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<v Speaker 4>in that life.

522
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<v Speaker 5>Is pretty good.

523
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<v Speaker 4>But you stood up. There was a you were very physical.

524
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<v Speaker 2>You're very like, okay, well, let's not talk about it.

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<v Speaker 4>He just goes into himself like shoulders cry over.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I crumpled a piece of paper.

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<v Speaker 8>It's not that bad. I mean, depends what's the backstory

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<v Speaker 8>of the pride.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the paper? Where's what's the journey?

530
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<v Speaker 2>What's its journey?

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<v Speaker 3>We humans are very closely related to to chimpanzees and

532
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<v Speaker 3>apes and.

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<v Speaker 4>Large large apes yep.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's a study that suggests that as different as

535
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<v Speaker 3>our parenting styles can be among humans, there are different

536
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<v Speaker 3>parenting styles among the great apes.

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<v Speaker 8>So they decided to look at Sumatran orangutangs because the

538
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<v Speaker 8>Sumatra ones are definitely the top notch and because of

539
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<v Speaker 8>any mammal let me get non human animal, they care

540
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<v Speaker 8>for their children longer than anybody else, and it's six

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<v Speaker 8>to nine years. So it's still like I think I

542
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<v Speaker 8>was going to say half, but probably a quarter for

543
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<v Speaker 8>our kids nowadays, depending on what you evolve. And so

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<v Speaker 8>they were looking at and what they found was that

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<v Speaker 8>there was there was consistent differences between the different mothers

546
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<v Speaker 8>that they like observed over six thousand hours of orangutans

547
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<v Speaker 8>mothering their young. Anyway, they also found that what made

548
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<v Speaker 8>them feel like this was something that was a personality

549
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<v Speaker 8>trait of the mom was that it would be consistent

550
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<v Speaker 8>through multiple children, like they had their way of doing it,

551
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<v Speaker 8>and there was like variations between how long they would

552
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<v Speaker 8>carry them and how long they would help them with food,

553
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<v Speaker 8>and how long they wanted them to be close to

554
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<v Speaker 8>them as they got older. So there's various points within

555
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<v Speaker 8>their development that a mom would be like, Okay, n

556
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<v Speaker 8>it's time for you to go away from me and

557
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<v Speaker 8>go figure it out.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and let me ask if there's a connection here,

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<v Speaker 3>because we just talked about the idea that genetics shape personality.

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<v Speaker 3>The genetics are the things that will control these things.

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<v Speaker 3>So is this a suggestion perhaps or do you conclude

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<v Speaker 3>from that, ye, genetics will determine what kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>parent you're going to be.

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<v Speaker 8>I think so I think depending on what you believe,

565
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<v Speaker 8>I mean, I think if you're more leaning science than

566
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<v Speaker 8>I think, this could be an argument that this is

567
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<v Speaker 8>how parenting evolves, like and people evolved that right now.

568
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<v Speaker 8>I mean, there's a strong movement evolutionarily for parenting to

569
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<v Speaker 8>be like very involved in what your kids are doing

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<v Speaker 8>well into adulthood. And I think that probably much like

571
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<v Speaker 8>we talk a lot about homework, how it swings on

572
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<v Speaker 8>a pendulum, like they go from no homework now we

573
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<v Speaker 8>get get caught up on a.

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<v Speaker 2>Homework of how you guys parent and your wife's parent.

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<v Speaker 1>Is is the way that they were parented or you

576
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<v Speaker 1>were parented.

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<v Speaker 8>I think it's always informed, but I like so for me,

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<v Speaker 8>I copied a lot about what I got from my dad,

579
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<v Speaker 8>but then there was this part that I got from

580
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<v Speaker 8>my mom that was very soft and loving, right, And

581
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<v Speaker 8>so I've even though Natalie still handles that my wife,

582
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<v Speaker 8>I feel like there's a lot I've softened. I'm a

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<v Speaker 8>lot softer than my dad is in so many.

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<v Speaker 2>Ways you always have been. Yeah, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Mean, but it's interesting too because as he got.

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<v Speaker 8>Older and I've I'm experienced. I don't know if you

587
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<v Speaker 8>would agree, Gary, we talked about this the three sevens. Right,

588
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<v Speaker 8>zero to seven you play with your kids, and then

589
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<v Speaker 8>seven to fourteen guide you teach them, and then fourteen

590
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<v Speaker 8>to twenty one. It's kind of like you're more of

591
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<v Speaker 8>a coach. I'm sorry, you teach them from seven to fourteen,

592
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<v Speaker 8>and you coach them from fourteen to twenty one, and

593
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<v Speaker 8>that I feel like as I got older, I could

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<v Speaker 8>see my dad also softening and like it felt more pure,

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<v Speaker 8>Like there was always the respect that he was my dad,

596
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<v Speaker 8>but it was just it was a different relationship that

597
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<v Speaker 8>became more friendly. And I see that start to happening

598
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<v Speaker 8>happen with my kids right now, that there's this change

599
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<v Speaker 8>that even happens throughout time.

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<v Speaker 3>I my parents were very hands off for the most part,

601
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<v Speaker 3>not that they didn't care, but Dad, for example, it

602
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<v Speaker 3>was just very He's just very hands off. He didn't

603
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<v Speaker 3>know the names of my friends, or he didn't know

604
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<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty sure he knew where my school was, but

605
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<v Speaker 3>I don't if he was tasked with ever picking me

606
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<v Speaker 3>up from school, it would be an adventure for him

607
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<v Speaker 3>to get there, and I I I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>I tried to or I just kind of fell into

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<v Speaker 3>that pattern.

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<v Speaker 4>With my kids.

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<v Speaker 3>I was much more involved with them than my dad

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<v Speaker 3>was with my childhood, but not in a negative.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't look back and I, yeah, you were doing

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<v Speaker 8>that because your dad wasn't there, right, or was it?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I mean, I will say this my trend.

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<v Speaker 3>If it were not for my wife encouraging me to

617
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<v Speaker 3>be involved with stuff, I wouldn't have been involved with something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I was encouraged like, hey, why don't you coach

619
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<v Speaker 3>a volunteer to coach the baseball team or the soccer

620
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<v Speaker 3>team or something like that, because then you get to

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<v Speaker 3>hang out with your kids, And I'm like, yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 4>There's other kids.

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<v Speaker 3>There's other kids there too, and parents and adults, and like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I like my kids, but there's a lot

625
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<v Speaker 3>that goes with that. But it was, you know, and

626
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<v Speaker 3>it kind of was the decision of, well, if they

627
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<v Speaker 3>see me involved and if they remember me being involved,

628
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<v Speaker 3>maybe there is a benefit to that that goes beyond

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<v Speaker 3>what a benefit I received from my own parents.

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<v Speaker 8>My thing my dad did a version of this, but

631
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<v Speaker 8>not as not to the level that I think I've done,

632
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<v Speaker 8>is that my thing was I wanted to be so

633
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<v Speaker 8>involved that the people that were watching over my kids

634
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<v Speaker 8>would know that I'm involved, and therefore they would pay

635
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<v Speaker 8>more attention to my kids. And it worked like when

636
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<v Speaker 8>they were in elementary school, I would get yard duties

637
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<v Speaker 8>that would come up and be like, hey, your son

638
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<v Speaker 8>hasn't eaten lunch in the past couple of days. Like

639
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<v Speaker 8>they would be aware of that kind of stuff. I

640
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<v Speaker 8>think when they see that investment, it makes sense. But

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<v Speaker 8>the thing that also blew my mind about the Rangutans

642
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<v Speaker 8>is that there was one kind of thing that they

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<v Speaker 8>saw as a parental trend where the mothers that carried

644
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<v Speaker 8>their kids longer, those kids would develop the ability to

645
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<v Speaker 8>eat on their own sooner and be more independent as

646
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<v Speaker 8>they got older.

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<v Speaker 2>Your kids don't even need lunch now, is right.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even feed them, right, It's not too far

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<v Speaker 4>off for themselves now.

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<v Speaker 8>It's going to bark out in the backyard the other day. Listen,

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<v Speaker 8>everybody has to grow up their own way. Gar's good kids.

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<v Speaker 8>Just thank you. Justin Worsham, of course, is a great person.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a great person.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm still here. This is great for me. Oh, I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't realize.

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<v Speaker 2>That we can do more.

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<v Speaker 1>Stick around for the next hour We'll make it all

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<v Speaker 1>about you.

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<v Speaker 4>Early birthday for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, Gary and Shannon will continue on right.

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<v Speaker 4>You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.

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<v Speaker 3>You can always hear us live on KFI AM six

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<v Speaker 3>forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,

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