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Speaker 1: He combs his former girlfriend back on the stand today
Speaker 1: in his New York sex crimes trial, Cassie Ventura telling
Speaker 1: Jersey for Another Day about the physical abuse she says
Speaker 1: she suffered from him during their ten yure relationship. He's
Speaker 1: accused of forcing victims to take part in drug and
Speaker 1: sex field parties over two decades. Faces life in prison.
Speaker 3: You're soon going to be able to walk through a
Speaker 3: part of Santa Monica with an adult beverage in your hand.
Speaker 3: They had a six hour meeting last night, but the
Speaker 3: city Council in Santa Monica voted unanimously to approve the
Speaker 3: open container ordinance that will allow you to walk along
Speaker 3: the Third Street promenade between Wilsher and Broadway with alcoholic
Speaker 3: beverages in hand. You can buy them at businesses along
Speaker 3: the promenade from eight in the morning until two in
Speaker 3: the morning, and then carry those drinks in the approved
Speaker 3: to go cups that are not glass or metal.
Speaker 1: The Democratic parties showing signs of life as the President
Speaker 1: continues his tour in the Middle East.
Speaker 2: It's where we kick off swamp Watch.
Speaker 4: I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheap and a liar.
Speaker 4: And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we got The real problem is that our leaders
Speaker 5: are done.
Speaker 2: The other side never quits.
Speaker 6: So what I'm not going anywhere so that you train
Speaker 6: the swap.
Speaker 4: I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
Speaker 4: what has been.
Speaker 7: You know, vans have always been going at President, but
Speaker 7: they're not stupid.
Speaker 8: A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 4: Whether people voting for you were not swamp Watch, They're
Speaker 4: all countered.
Speaker 1: The more I think about this plane, the more I
Speaker 1: think it's just a symbol. It's never going to be
Speaker 1: put into service. It's just a gift.
Speaker 4: It is what it is.
Speaker 1: President Trump's Peace and Prosperity Tour there in the Middle East.
Speaker 1: Making a stop in Cutter today, the President ouns announcing
Speaker 1: new deals between Cutter and Boeing and the Department of Defense.
Speaker 1: Boeing will be selling bless you one more.
Speaker 2: I'm on h he's being shy.
Speaker 4: I'll tell me what to do.
Speaker 1: Boeing will be selling billions of dollars worth of planes
Speaker 1: two Cutter DoD will be selling our top tier drones.
Speaker 1: He also pledged his commitment for peace in the Middle East.
Speaker 1: All the while the backdrop here the DNC is flying
Speaker 1: a Cutter a logo banner over President Trump's Florida residents today.
Speaker 6: Nice.
Speaker 1: Of course, he's getting a lot of criticism over his
Speaker 1: plans to accept a luxury plane from Cutter. They say
Speaker 1: it'll temporarily serve as Air Force one. I believe that
Speaker 1: as much as I believe Alcatraz will be put back
Speaker 1: into service, I just don't see this plane ever be
Speaker 1: putting into service.
Speaker 3: Well, and we talked about the Emollument's clause in the Constitution,
Speaker 3: which prohibits an official in the United States from receiving
Speaker 3: gifts from foreign heads of state, generally the approval of Congress.
Speaker 3: This is not going to a person, as President Trump
Speaker 3: pointed out in his truth social post, It's going to
Speaker 3: the Air Force, and then after it serves according to
Speaker 3: their plan, after it serves as Air Force one, it
Speaker 3: would then be given to the Trump Library. So which
Speaker 3: is still the appearance of impropriety is too much. It's
Speaker 3: I agree with you too much. Never going to go anywhere.
Speaker 1: Well, and the only thing that's going to do is
Speaker 1: line the Trump family pockets after he leaves office. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of money to be made in the Middle East,
Speaker 1: a lot of money, and they know that. And like
Speaker 1: you said yesterday, I think Trump did realize he left
Speaker 1: a lot of money on the table during his first
Speaker 1: term and that's not going to happen this time around.
Speaker 1: In fact, at least two billion has flowed into Trump
Speaker 1: companies in just the last month. Two billion real estate, cryptocurrency,
Speaker 1: a private club that's going to open in Washington with
Speaker 1: a five hundred thousand dollars membership fee. I mean they
Speaker 1: are made and money hand over fist off, this this rain.
Speaker 3: One of the stories that President Trump has repeated over
Speaker 3: the last couple of days is his fat friend story.
Speaker 4: Have you heard this?
Speaker 2: This is great.
Speaker 3: It started with his executive order to reduce the price
Speaker 3: of prescription drugs and used his fat friend as an
Speaker 3: example of someone who is on a GLP one we
Speaker 3: assume and realized that the thirteen hundred dollars dose here
Speaker 3: in the United States would only cost about eighty bucks
Speaker 3: in other parts of the world.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'll tell you a story. Friend of mine
Speaker 5: who's business man, very very, very top guy. Most of
Speaker 5: you would have heard of him. A highly neurotic, brilliant businessman,
Speaker 5: seriously overweight, and he takes the fat shot drug and
Speaker 5: he called me up and he said.
Speaker 4: President.
Speaker 5: He used to call me Donald. Now he calls me president.
Speaker 4: So that's nice. Respect.
Speaker 5: But it's a rough guy, smart guy, very success, very rich.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't even know how we would know this, but
Speaker 5: because he's got comments the president, could I ask you
Speaker 5: a question. What I'm in London and I just paid
Speaker 5: for this damn fat drug I take. I said, it's
Speaker 5: not working.
Speaker 3: He goes on into the specifics of the cost of it,
Speaker 3: eighty eight dollars I think for the dose in London
Speaker 3: versus thirteen hundred dollars for his cost here in the
Speaker 3: United States, which is a crack up story. It's one
Speaker 3: of those stories that Trump knows is funny. He knows
Speaker 3: it's going to get reactions. But if you're the fat friend,
Speaker 3: you're being held out there to flail in the wind
Speaker 3: with your foot like.
Speaker 1: It appears that this is one of the things that
Speaker 1: Trump thinks is a weakness overweightness or what have you.
Speaker 4: Which is weird because he clearly is not in the
Speaker 4: best shape.
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is is he's lost a lot of weight,
Speaker 1: and there's been a lot of talk that he took
Speaker 1: a GLP one. He has no shame in that game.
Speaker 1: I wonder the fact that he's doing that in saying
Speaker 1: it just it's not the right thing to say. It's
Speaker 1: not nice. It's not right nice. And do you know
Speaker 1: many people that you're affecting with that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. But it won't matter. It
Speaker 2: won't matter.
Speaker 3: Pete Boudagi is making some headlines. He's been making his
Speaker 3: rounds on podcasts recently and was asked about President Biden's
Speaker 3: decision to seek a second term, and he admitted that
Speaker 3: it may have hurt deck Democrats and that with the
Speaker 3: benefit of hindsight, he says, I think most people would agree,
Speaker 3: but that's the case. But he did say he wants
Speaker 3: to turn the page and look to the future, which
Speaker 3: apparently is a memo that's gone around. Here's Hakeem Jeffrey's saying,
Speaker 3: we're looking to the future.
Speaker 8: There's a number of different revelations coming out about President
Speaker 8: Joe Biden's declimb with recent books. Is it helpful for
Speaker 8: your caucus for these to come out now?
Speaker 4: And would you want Biden to campaign for House Democrats.
Speaker 7: I'm not looking backward.
Speaker 4: We're looking forward.
Speaker 3: Particular moment, here's Chuck Schumer also saying we're looking forward.
Speaker 2: Did you really not have any idea that he was
Speaker 2: not fit to serve a second term?
Speaker 1: Casey, we're looking forward this because you lost a presidential election,
Speaker 1: and is that not Joe Biden's responsibility for deciding to
Speaker 1: run again.
Speaker 4: We're looking forward.
Speaker 6: That's it. That's it.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 3: That's the state of the Democratic Party as of right now.
Speaker 3: Up next, the movie subscription service that has turned into
Speaker 3: kind of a cult.
Speaker 1: Yes, people treating their subscription to this movie app as
Speaker 1: a core personality trait.
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Speaker 3: The Sean Diddy Combs trial. Of course, his former girlfriend
Speaker 3: Cassie Ventura is on the stand continuing testimony. And what
Speaker 3: they're showing now, prosecutors are showing some of the still
Speaker 3: images taken from videos of these freak offs, and she
Speaker 3: testified that there were plenty of people that saw him
Speaker 3: physically abuse her. She has testified that she was forced
Speaker 3: into these raging sex parties. And now some of the
Speaker 3: images from the videos of those are being shown to
Speaker 3: the jury. The gallery can't see them. They're not being
Speaker 3: shown to the lawyers. Lawyers got their own sort of
Speaker 3: a binder, I guess, full of copies of them.
Speaker 4: But the jury is reacting.
Speaker 3: CNN has a reporter in the courtroom and said one
Speaker 3: female juror aloed out a deep breath, rested her hand
Speaker 3: on her chest as an image was placed on the
Speaker 3: monitor before her. Another male juror looked at the screen
Speaker 3: at one of the images in his eyes appeared to
Speaker 3: move away very quickly. Another male jur immediately looked down
Speaker 3: and started writing on his notepad.
Speaker 4: So it's just getting nasty in there.
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Speaker 1: The AMCA list. It's not an excuse. Exclusive club membership
Speaker 1: costs about twenty to twenty eight bucks a month. Anyone
Speaker 1: older than thirteen can join, so no xless exclusivity there.
Speaker 1: But as the Wall Street Journal writes this up, it's members, however,
Speaker 1: brag about this movie subscription service as if they're part
Speaker 1: of United Airlines Inventation only Global services status. They post
Speaker 1: about it on social media. They treat it like a
Speaker 1: court personality trade. They try to enlist friends and family
Speaker 1: members to join, quite like you know, a cult. The
Speaker 1: main benefit of the AMC stubs A list membership is
Speaker 1: the right to go up to four movies a week.
Speaker 1: Members get to use a special VIP line to buy concessions.
Speaker 1: They can add friends and family members to their entourage
Speaker 1: for a showing, as long as they're also in the
Speaker 1: A list. I feel like they're paying people to be
Speaker 1: this emphatic about the A list status, right, Like there's
Speaker 1: something in each post. If somebody's posting about their AMC
Speaker 1: A list status or their their membership, don't you think
Speaker 1: that they're getting a perk for that? Because why else
Speaker 1: would you post constantly about the fact that you're going
Speaker 1: to see four movies a week?
Speaker 3: Right, I don't know, it's not a it's you're in
Speaker 3: the cult, yes, and I love it.
Speaker 2: Wait, okay, so tell so tell us more.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So it's like super easy to get your friends to
Speaker 7: like reserve like a role. Let's say you have five
Speaker 7: friends and they all have MCA lists and all of us,
Speaker 7: why I can do it for everyone, like reserve like
Speaker 7: a seat, and it's very like, I don't know, it's
Speaker 7: just chill. It's easy, and yeah, the concession lines aren't
Speaker 7: necessarily faster than the normal lines. I don't know if
Speaker 7: that's the benefit, but like being able to like reserve
Speaker 7: things with your friends is pretty useful and it's like
Speaker 7: saved me a lot of time. Instead of like contacting them,
Speaker 7: I can make reservation and they'll be like, what is this.
Speaker 7: I'm just like hey, want to watch a movie with me?
Speaker 7: They're like, no, I'll just cancel it. But it's like
Speaker 7: without having their permission, I can like make a reservation for.
Speaker 4: All of us.
Speaker 2: Now you pay a month.
Speaker 7: Like twelve, I think, like it's not box crazy. Oh wait, no,
Speaker 7: I think it's like twenty twenty yeah.
Speaker 1: Except okay, so twenty five bucks a month. How many
Speaker 1: movies do you go see with this a month?
Speaker 7: Well, now with my new girlfriend Diane, Oh.
Speaker 1: Clear this hey, yeah, Keana, get rid of the rest
Speaker 1: of the show.
Speaker 2: We're gonna find out all about Diana.
Speaker 7: Well, we we went we were supposed to watch Friendship yesterday. Yeah,
Speaker 7: and like we canceled it with air list and then
Speaker 7: like we re uh what do you call it?
Speaker 4: Rebooked?
Speaker 7: And then we canceled it again because we got bored
Speaker 7: and we're like, let's just stay at home.
Speaker 2: They were busy.
Speaker 7: Exactly, I got you, so we got you know what
Speaker 7: I mean, the fact that I could cancel it and
Speaker 7: then like re.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, that's nice. It's like Southwest Airlines really exactly.
Speaker 1: So uh so, how many movies though, do you go
Speaker 1: see a month?
Speaker 2: Would you say? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Definitely, like four to five.
Speaker 1: So that makes sense for you because the average movie
Speaker 1: theater ticket is what twenty bucks, so that would be
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars if you like to see a movie
Speaker 1: once a week. My parents said that they'd go see
Speaker 1: a movie once a week back in the day, and
Speaker 1: so if you could pay twenty five bucks to see.
Speaker 2: As many movies as you want, that's quite the deal.
Speaker 1: That's three food free movies a month if that's your
Speaker 1: thing now.
Speaker 2: But the bragging about it? Have you noticed this is there?
Speaker 2: What do you think about that?
Speaker 7: I do feel it for certain people that like go
Speaker 7: into line like you do, see them like kind of
Speaker 7: press themselves up a little bit like m M, you know,
Speaker 7: like so yeah, I have experienced that. I have felt
Speaker 7: that sometimes I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4: But here's the other question. How close are you to
Speaker 4: the movie theater?
Speaker 7: I'm in Hollywood, so like I go to the Grove
Speaker 7: a bunch or Burbank sixteen yeah, or like Americana, so
Speaker 7: like I frequent those three.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the one in Hollywood is it? Are you walkable?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I see that's the part that would be a if
Speaker 3: I lived somewhere close that it.
Speaker 1: Was walkablere's your movie theater, it's probably five miles, six miles.
Speaker 2: Mine's like a mile.
Speaker 1: Most I think there's movie theaters closer mostly to people
Speaker 1: most of the time.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's what it, because that would that would make
Speaker 3: sense if you're in a city, for example, I mean,
Speaker 3: Hollywood's probably if you lived closer to it would be
Speaker 3: one of those.
Speaker 1: But I feel like I've always been with about a
Speaker 1: mile or two away from the theater.
Speaker 4: It's always close to your heart.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's interesting though, that a
Speaker 1: big perk for you is to be able to block
Speaker 1: out seats, because when I have gone to the theater,
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily packed these days.
Speaker 4: It's been a long time since.
Speaker 3: I think the last packed show that I saw was Oppenheimer.
Speaker 1: But it's a great deal if you see four or
Speaker 1: five movies, even if you see three movies a month,
Speaker 1: twenty five bucks for the service to seat three movies
Speaker 1: a month, where you'd be spending eighty dollars and you're
Speaker 1: spending twenty five that's a great deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd brag about that too.
Speaker 4: Hey, sign me up for the cult also Sinners.
Speaker 7: Right now, it's like trying to see that in like
Speaker 7: what you call it imax, like it's just sewed out
Speaker 7: like that. And like any Marvel film or like any
Speaker 7: superhero film, those sell out very quickly, and having the
Speaker 7: A list, you can like block out like two days,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. Like sometimes it's I get
Speaker 7: a little greedy and I got like, yeah, the day
Speaker 7: releases in the next day, even but I released the
Speaker 7: seats later.
Speaker 4: But I say, it's yeah.
Speaker 2: That's kind of cool that you can get in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that. Uh, Diane or Diana?
Speaker 7: Diane?
Speaker 2: Oh Diane? Yeah, it's not my mother, is it? That'd
Speaker 2: be weird.
Speaker 4: No, it's great.
Speaker 1: Tell me where'd you meet Diane on the apps? On
Speaker 1: the apps? And how long has this love been blossoming?
Speaker 4: Three months?
Speaker 2: Oh, Elmer?
Speaker 4: Why aren't you keeping secrets?
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's take a break and then we'll
Speaker 1: come back and find out more about Diane. Gary and
Speaker 1: Shannon will continue.
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Speaker 2: New edition.
Speaker 1: Since Elmer's been with his girlfriend and for three months,
Speaker 1: what kind of parents will they be? Go, Elmer, how
Speaker 1: many kids have you talked about having together?
Speaker 4: Oh? My god?
Speaker 8: If he has an answer to this, though, Elmer and
Speaker 8: I are like, we should be brothers if he genuinely
Speaker 8: three months in knows how many kids the two of
Speaker 8: them would like to have.
Speaker 4: Okay, Elmer, Florias yours? Has it come up yet?
Speaker 7: Uh no, But we have talked about, like what kids
Speaker 7: would look like if you know what I mean, mixed
Speaker 7: race couple.
Speaker 4: Oh oh, well that's the same thing. That's pretty good.
Speaker 4: Three months in race couple.
Speaker 2: Kids are always the cutest.
Speaker 3: Quantity you haven't talked about. I mean, you talked about
Speaker 3: quality quantity, and I think that's that's actually.
Speaker 2: Are we talking two or five?
Speaker 4: You think how many would you, like, Elmer if you
Speaker 4: had your brothers? Well, it depends how much money.
Speaker 2: I'm making good point. That's a smart zero.
Speaker 8: If they're not that expensive early on, they get expensive
Speaker 8: when they're like teenagers.
Speaker 7: Yeah no, let's see maybe two, maybe adopt one?
Speaker 4: Oh so you go three or one of those two
Speaker 4: would be about.
Speaker 7: I don't know, maybe like one and done.
Speaker 8: It seems to be a growing trend in younger folks.
Speaker 8: With all due respect him, right, you're obviously yeah, adoption.
Speaker 8: The adoption thing, like people like they grow up saying
Speaker 8: that they want to have maybe one of their own,
Speaker 8: but they definitely want to adopt another one.
Speaker 2: Is that? Because why is that? Elmer? Why would you
Speaker 2: like to adopt one?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 7: It's just been like since I was a kid, I've
Speaker 7: always been like, there's a lot of kids out there,
Speaker 7: you know?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Is that? But the reason why I think this is
Speaker 8: interesting is this is like almost like a cultural hive
Speaker 8: mind thing that is within a generation. And I mean,
Speaker 8: I'm sure and an economist could dig into what is
Speaker 8: the psychological inspiration behind it? But yeah, I hear it
Speaker 8: constantly from people who don't have kids yet that there
Speaker 8: are more and more people are talking about adopting. It's
Speaker 8: interesting where it used to be like a joke when
Speaker 8: we were kids, you know what I mean, like like
Speaker 8: that was supposed to be a negative thing, but now
Speaker 8: people are like, no, this is what everybody should be doing.
Speaker 1: If you're wondering why Gary's face looks like that, it's
Speaker 1: because he's a pure bred family believe in any sort
Speaker 1: of crossing of any lines.
Speaker 4: At Gary, why would you bring this up at this time?
Speaker 6: I don't know why.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if we're going to talk about.
Speaker 4: Dogs, we're gonout. I see what you're doing.
Speaker 9: I'm just saying, yes, I don't have any that one
Speaker 9: must have really landed, had good job.
Speaker 6: We were all.
Speaker 2: Here to see the downfall of I was gonna say.
Speaker 3: I was going to say I have adopted people in
Speaker 3: my family. I mean, my brother in law was adopted.
Speaker 3: But wait, doesn't count. And I'm trying to think of
Speaker 3: it's okay, it's all right.
Speaker 4: I think it's humans.
Speaker 7: You know, we should be more communal and this should
Speaker 7: be like more talking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we should take care of like the kids that
Speaker 4: don't have like parents.
Speaker 7: That's very nice, protect each other and like, yeah, it's
Speaker 7: cool to have your own kids. But imagine if everyone
Speaker 7: just like adopted and like to just be like less
Speaker 7: said kids.
Speaker 5: In the world.
Speaker 9: You know, as an adopted person, I would rather have
Speaker 9: my own than adopt me too.
Speaker 1: I don't want that surprise box. As an adopted kid,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want me. I wouldn't want to open that
Speaker 1: up and be like, oh great, I've got this for
Speaker 1: most of my life.
Speaker 8: One of the things that I brought in to talk
Speaker 8: about I think kind of addresses this thing. I'm not
Speaker 8: trying to shorn this in at all. I'm sorry if
Speaker 8: I'm ruining him per segment. But no, it's that the
Speaker 8: idea that I found this article that they did another
Speaker 8: study that basically corroborated with this new belief that more
Speaker 8: of what people are is genetic than it is there's
Speaker 8: more nature than there is nurture. That and it's not
Speaker 8: trying to discount a nurture situation at all, where your
Speaker 8: environment and all that stuff does have an impact on you,
Speaker 8: but kind of there's this concept that's growing that there's
Speaker 8: at your core, your genetics decide who you are and
Speaker 8: what's going to happen to you.
Speaker 2: I don't believe that, no, because I know both sides.
Speaker 1: I know my parents, and I know my biological mother,
Speaker 1: and I am just like my mother my mother. I've
Speaker 1: met my biological mother. I have a lot of similarities
Speaker 1: with her, but she seems much more normal.
Speaker 8: So even like personality and things like that, because I
Speaker 8: think there's a tendency to be like I am.
Speaker 1: I am very much into the I've learned, at least
Speaker 1: from the small sample of information I have for my
Speaker 1: own situation, that it's much more nurture over nature.
Speaker 4: Fascinating. Well, I guess we're done, then, I guess yeah.
Speaker 2: But I guess it's I mean, it's it's got to
Speaker 2: be different.
Speaker 1: I mean, like there's a study for everything to say,
Speaker 1: you know, together, it can all you know.
Speaker 4: Come on, well and you can't. This goes to what
Speaker 4: you say. I'm easily persuaded.
Speaker 2: There's a study for that.
Speaker 4: Your kids are younger than my kids. I think I
Speaker 4: have a better.
Speaker 3: I'm closer to a conclusion than you would be, yes,
Speaker 3: because I have a better idea of what their adult personalities.
Speaker 3: We're like sixty eight years ahead of me, I think,
Speaker 3: if I'm correct, sixty eight years six six to eight years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought you're making a Shannon now old I am.
Speaker 4: You've got him on the ropes from your ear. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you're red dog.
Speaker 1: That was pretty good right now, he's laughing inside somewhere face.
Speaker 3: But the idea that the genetics, I mean, we raised
Speaker 3: our kids in the same house at the same time,
Speaker 3: like they were, they're they're not that far apart in
Speaker 3: age two years, two two and a half years. So
Speaker 3: the idea that they can come out and be very
Speaker 3: different people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my brother and I are very different.
Speaker 1: Both adopted, separate adoptive fam separate families, you know, and
Speaker 1: we are very different like your kids.
Speaker 2: My brother and I are just.
Speaker 4: Kids, are two different people.
Speaker 8: In my exactly, there's but again to me, there's the
Speaker 8: core of who they are, right. They still they're very
Speaker 8: different and they're better people than I am. But at
Speaker 8: the core they still have my softness, my sappiness.
Speaker 1: There's like innate stuff in your personality that is genetics,
Speaker 1: but then there's the stuff that shapes who you are,
Speaker 1: and I think that that stuff is more prominent than
Speaker 1: the innate stuff.
Speaker 2: And my brother is really good.
Speaker 1: When it comes to fixing cars, just like his biological
Speaker 1: family was.
Speaker 2: On both sides. My family can't fix a car.
Speaker 1: My dad couldn't fix anything, but he has that innate gift.
Speaker 1: But his entire personality is the family personality like you
Speaker 1: know as well.
Speaker 4: It should be.
Speaker 8: I mean, there also could be argued that, you know,
Speaker 8: our brains are kind of wired to find these connections
Speaker 8: and to solve the things that don't make sense, and
Speaker 8: so we're going to see things the way that we want.
Speaker 3: To see that total, and then how much how much
Speaker 3: would your genetics are your genetics malleable? Can can they
Speaker 3: change from generation to generation? Whereas you know Shannon's brother's
Speaker 3: great at fixing cars but has a very unique personality.
Speaker 3: Does his kid do his kids do they have his
Speaker 3: personality because his genes changed. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 3: that'd be much more of a different scientific question.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 8: I think if I think I was going to try
Speaker 8: to oversimplify what this study was saying is that I
Speaker 8: think it's like they're trying to argue that it's a
Speaker 8: sixty forty split and that your environment has maybe a
Speaker 8: forty percent or less influence on who you are at
Speaker 8: your core being. Like I would almost argue that if
Speaker 8: you had not had a positive experience with your adopted family,
Speaker 8: that you would probably have a differing perspective as well,
Speaker 8: Like you would probably look at it and not want
Speaker 8: to see the similarities.
Speaker 2: You're assuming I had a positive experience.
Speaker 4: Well based. Okay, she is very good at this.
Speaker 3: Drock Karn will continue justin.
Speaker 4: Because I feel like I do see how it hurts.
Speaker 4: It hurts.
Speaker 8: A break, I'm gonna take a get an emotional neroic.
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Speaker 8: And he was like the oyster knife was like, let
Speaker 8: me see your inside.
Speaker 3: I do think it was better that you were able
Speaker 3: to get some of it out. I agree, Yeah, Gary
Speaker 3: and Shannon kf I live everywhere.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I thought. I was like, I'm freaking
Speaker 2: justin right now, and I don't like it.
Speaker 4: It's not bad. I mean, you get premature gray, but
Speaker 4: in that life.
Speaker 5: Is pretty good.
Speaker 4: But you stood up. There was a you were very physical.
Speaker 2: You're very like, okay, well, let's not talk about it.
Speaker 4: He just goes into himself like shoulders cry over.
Speaker 2: You know, I crumpled a piece of paper.
Speaker 8: It's not that bad. I mean, depends what's the backstory
Speaker 8: of the pride.
Speaker 4: What's the paper? Where's what's the journey?
Speaker 2: What's its journey?
Speaker 3: We humans are very closely related to to chimpanzees and
Speaker 3: apes and.
Speaker 4: Large large apes yep.
Speaker 3: And there's a study that suggests that as different as
Speaker 3: our parenting styles can be among humans, there are different
Speaker 3: parenting styles among the great apes.
Speaker 8: So they decided to look at Sumatran orangutangs because the
Speaker 8: Sumatra ones are definitely the top notch and because of
Speaker 8: any mammal let me get non human animal, they care
Speaker 8: for their children longer than anybody else, and it's six
Speaker 8: to nine years. So it's still like I think I
Speaker 8: was going to say half, but probably a quarter for
Speaker 8: our kids nowadays, depending on what you evolve. And so
Speaker 8: they were looking at and what they found was that
Speaker 8: there was there was consistent differences between the different mothers
Speaker 8: that they like observed over six thousand hours of orangutans
Speaker 8: mothering their young. Anyway, they also found that what made
Speaker 8: them feel like this was something that was a personality
Speaker 8: trait of the mom was that it would be consistent
Speaker 8: through multiple children, like they had their way of doing it,
Speaker 8: and there was like variations between how long they would
Speaker 8: carry them and how long they would help them with food,
Speaker 8: and how long they wanted them to be close to
Speaker 8: them as they got older. So there's various points within
Speaker 8: their development that a mom would be like, Okay, n
Speaker 8: it's time for you to go away from me and
Speaker 8: go figure it out.
Speaker 3: Well, and let me ask if there's a connection here,
Speaker 3: because we just talked about the idea that genetics shape personality.
Speaker 3: The genetics are the things that will control these things.
Speaker 3: So is this a suggestion perhaps or do you conclude
Speaker 3: from that, ye, genetics will determine what kind of a
Speaker 3: parent you're going to be.
Speaker 8: I think so I think depending on what you believe,
Speaker 8: I mean, I think if you're more leaning science than
Speaker 8: I think, this could be an argument that this is
Speaker 8: how parenting evolves, like and people evolved that right now.
Speaker 8: I mean, there's a strong movement evolutionarily for parenting to
Speaker 8: be like very involved in what your kids are doing
Speaker 8: well into adulthood. And I think that probably much like
Speaker 8: we talk a lot about homework, how it swings on
Speaker 8: a pendulum, like they go from no homework now we
Speaker 8: get get caught up on a.
Speaker 2: Homework of how you guys parent and your wife's parent.
Speaker 1: Is is the way that they were parented or you
Speaker 1: were parented.
Speaker 8: I think it's always informed, but I like so for me,
Speaker 8: I copied a lot about what I got from my dad,
Speaker 8: but then there was this part that I got from
Speaker 8: my mom that was very soft and loving, right, And
Speaker 8: so I've even though Natalie still handles that my wife,
Speaker 8: I feel like there's a lot I've softened. I'm a
Speaker 8: lot softer than my dad is in so many.
Speaker 2: Ways you always have been. Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Mean, but it's interesting too because as he got.
Speaker 8: Older and I've I'm experienced. I don't know if you
Speaker 8: would agree, Gary, we talked about this the three sevens. Right,
Speaker 8: zero to seven you play with your kids, and then
Speaker 8: seven to fourteen guide you teach them, and then fourteen
Speaker 8: to twenty one. It's kind of like you're more of
Speaker 8: a coach. I'm sorry, you teach them from seven to fourteen,
Speaker 8: and you coach them from fourteen to twenty one, and
Speaker 8: that I feel like as I got older, I could
Speaker 8: see my dad also softening and like it felt more pure,
Speaker 8: Like there was always the respect that he was my dad,
Speaker 8: but it was just it was a different relationship that
Speaker 8: became more friendly. And I see that start to happening
Speaker 8: happen with my kids right now, that there's this change
Speaker 8: that even happens throughout time.
Speaker 3: I my parents were very hands off for the most part,
Speaker 3: not that they didn't care, but Dad, for example, it
Speaker 3: was just very He's just very hands off. He didn't
Speaker 3: know the names of my friends, or he didn't know
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure he knew where my school was, but
Speaker 3: I don't if he was tasked with ever picking me
Speaker 3: up from school, it would be an adventure for him
Speaker 3: to get there, and I I I don't know if
Speaker 3: I tried to or I just kind of fell into
Speaker 3: that pattern.
Speaker 4: With my kids.
Speaker 3: I was much more involved with them than my dad
Speaker 3: was with my childhood, but not in a negative.
Speaker 8: I don't look back and I, yeah, you were doing
Speaker 8: that because your dad wasn't there, right, or was it?
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I will say this my trend.
Speaker 3: If it were not for my wife encouraging me to
Speaker 3: be involved with stuff, I wouldn't have been involved with something. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Like I was encouraged like, hey, why don't you coach
Speaker 3: a volunteer to coach the baseball team or the soccer
Speaker 3: team or something like that, because then you get to
Speaker 3: hang out with your kids, And I'm like, yeah, but.
Speaker 4: There's other kids.
Speaker 3: There's other kids there too, and parents and adults, and like,
Speaker 3: I don't I like my kids, but there's a lot
Speaker 3: that goes with that. But it was, you know, and
Speaker 3: it kind of was the decision of, well, if they
Speaker 3: see me involved and if they remember me being involved,
Speaker 3: maybe there is a benefit to that that goes beyond
Speaker 3: what a benefit I received from my own parents.
Speaker 8: My thing my dad did a version of this, but
Speaker 8: not as not to the level that I think I've done,
Speaker 8: is that my thing was I wanted to be so
Speaker 8: involved that the people that were watching over my kids
Speaker 8: would know that I'm involved, and therefore they would pay
Speaker 8: more attention to my kids. And it worked like when
Speaker 8: they were in elementary school, I would get yard duties
Speaker 8: that would come up and be like, hey, your son
Speaker 8: hasn't eaten lunch in the past couple of days. Like
Speaker 8: they would be aware of that kind of stuff. I
Speaker 8: think when they see that investment, it makes sense. But
Speaker 8: the thing that also blew my mind about the Rangutans
Speaker 8: is that there was one kind of thing that they
Speaker 8: saw as a parental trend where the mothers that carried
Speaker 8: their kids longer, those kids would develop the ability to
Speaker 8: eat on their own sooner and be more independent as
Speaker 8: they got older.
Speaker 2: Your kids don't even need lunch now, is right.
Speaker 4: I don't even feed them, right, It's not too far
Speaker 4: off for themselves now.
Speaker 8: It's going to bark out in the backyard the other day. Listen,
Speaker 8: everybody has to grow up their own way. Gar's good kids.
Speaker 8: Just thank you. Justin Worsham, of course, is a great person.
Speaker 2: He is a great person.
Speaker 4: I'm still here. This is great for me. Oh, I
Speaker 4: didn't realize.
Speaker 2: That we can do more.
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Speaker 4: Early birthday for me.
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