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<v Speaker 1>Weird wad.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back midnight viewers to Father Malone's weekly round up.

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<v Speaker 2>I am Father Malone and joining me beside me to

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<v Speaker 2>guide me the little lady who sat through Wes Craven's

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<v Speaker 2>Swamp Thing yesterday. I'm so fucking proud of you, just

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<v Speaker 2>glued to the screen and no freakouts, Miss Ripley.

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<v Speaker 3>Jean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I doubt you'll respond the same to that short

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<v Speaker 2>lived television series. It is very scary, but we are

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<v Speaker 2>not talking Alec Holland or Anton Arcane or Abigail Arcane.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a romance for you swamp Thing and Abby Arcane.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know, I just said we're not talking

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<v Speaker 2>swamp thing. Actually, later today I am talking swampting. As

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<v Speaker 2>a guest over on a year in Horror podcast. Always

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<v Speaker 2>a delight getting to drop in over there in chat

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<v Speaker 2>with the show's illustrious and hilarious host, mister Paul Waller.

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<v Speaker 2>He's at Waller, not Weller. On Instagram and other socials.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably I'm at Fan Malone on Insta and Blue Sky

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<v Speaker 2>and threads. As in my patients with social media is

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<v Speaker 2>hanging by a few of those threads. Yellowjackets Update, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>actively angry at the show now boneheaded shit. Just to

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<v Speaker 2>keep things moving at this point, that's where they're dumping

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<v Speaker 2>us out at the end of the season. The finale

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<v Speaker 2>is this Friday, Xbox Action. I'm back on Alien Isolation.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I'm very predictable and boring, but there is

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<v Speaker 2>an innovation now too. Actually, number one, I bought an

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<v Speaker 2>awesome NASA jacket, and if I wear it while I'm

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<v Speaker 2>playing it, it makes me feel like I'm in the game

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<v Speaker 2>method gaming, y'all. And number two, I bought my first

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<v Speaker 2>ever expansion pack for the game Soul Survivor. So now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm running around on the actual Nostromo and it is

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<v Speaker 2>a fucking trip. And and I'm the actual Ripley. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Ripley, You're a Ripley. It's really just Alien Isolation

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<v Speaker 2>in Survivor mode with some new skins on some things.

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<v Speaker 2>But fuck, it is a trip to come around a

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<v Speaker 2>corner and run into yaff at Coto as Parker or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Lambert standing behind a glass divider giving you attitude. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw the Monkey that's Osgood Perkins new film based

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<v Speaker 2>on the short story by Stephen King. You remember the

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<v Speaker 2>main image off of the Skeleton Crew book The Little

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<v Speaker 2>wind Up Monkey with the Cymbals. Well here it's a

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<v Speaker 2>wind up Monkey with a drum. Because that famous novelty

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<v Speaker 2>Wine Monkey with Symbols is actually copywritten. They've turned that

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<v Speaker 2>short story basically into Final Destination. If you want a

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<v Speaker 2>longer review of it, hit me up at Father Malone

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<v Speaker 2>seventy one at gmail dot com, or at the aforementioned

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<v Speaker 2>social spots. I didn't have a huge problem with the film.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just that I'm trying to recommend things on this

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<v Speaker 2>show as much as possible, rather than just have a

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<v Speaker 2>laugh pointing out how hard it is to combine humor

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<v Speaker 2>and horror like in the Monkey. Okay, I'll stop. If

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<v Speaker 2>you do write in you may end up on a

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<v Speaker 2>segment here, what segment?

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<v Speaker 1>What segment?

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<v Speaker 2>The segment with the power the power of voodoo?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that's enough. Pal from a role.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex Bledsoe he's the author of the Eddie Lacrosse series.

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<v Speaker 2>He wrote in about the crossover episode we did with

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<v Speaker 2>Noise Junkies host HP about Walter Hill's film Crossroads. He

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<v Speaker 2>saw it at a sneak preview ahead of Wildcats. Remember

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<v Speaker 2>when studios would do that? Remember when there were studios

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<v Speaker 2>about a week before the film's premiere. They would have

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<v Speaker 2>a word of mouth screening paired with whatever else was

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<v Speaker 2>their big release. At the moment. These days, the closest

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to get is a Thursday night soft opening.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to a lot of these special screenings, pre

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<v Speaker 2>social media, pre overexposure. There were times when folks had

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<v Speaker 2>week of, and there you'd be, having already seen it

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<v Speaker 2>and just bursting about it. Alex's screening was Crossroads and

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<v Speaker 2>then Wildcats. I'd say, I wish I'd seen them in

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<v Speaker 2>the theater, but I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm bragging, when really all I'm saying is

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really fucking old. Those screenings were great, though, because

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<v Speaker 2>they afforded the opportunity to feel like a mogul. Shall

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<v Speaker 2>we stay for the feature?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone can see that Alex chose to dip out on Wildcats,

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<v Speaker 2>feeling that any other entertainment was going to be lesser.

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<v Speaker 2>I think in that case you would have been fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I like Wildcats. It was great seeing Goldiehan being funny

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<v Speaker 2>and baass and not just in DITZI. She is clearly

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<v Speaker 2>a fucking powerhouse, but funny thing HP and I attended

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<v Speaker 2>a few of those back in the day. We actually

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<v Speaker 2>went to the Beetlejuice sneak preview together.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Keathon mare is a ghost called Beetlejuice and the

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<v Speaker 1>ghostly and most name twitted Beiji the Speak previews Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>March twenty sixth.

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<v Speaker 2>That was paired with the delightful Police Academy five assignment

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<v Speaker 2>to Miami Beach. I think we left during the credits

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<v Speaker 2>of Police Academy following that exact same instinct. We were

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<v Speaker 2>right also in the penn Pal Mailbanks section, just a

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<v Speaker 2>continued conversation with our man in Scotland Ian what's up,

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<v Speaker 2>mister Banks. That's like Mary Poppins or that movie with

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Hanks as Walt Disney and Colin Farrell was mister Banks,

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<v Speaker 2>that's neither here nor there, other than I'm here and

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to be there in Scotland or Wales. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to spend a month of Sundays in Wales. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's an Irish expression. But whatever Welsh people contact

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<v Speaker 2>me tell me where to go. That's cool. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously I'm going to make a pilgrimage to the statue

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<v Speaker 2>of Yanto Jones. He is a global hero, not just

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<v Speaker 2>a Welsh local hero, and we all owe him a debt.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, anyone in the UK hit me up

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<v Speaker 2>if you been to Blackpool. I am not low key obsessed.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fully on fucking obsessed, and I want to know

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<v Speaker 2>if you've been, what's it like? Have you been in

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<v Speaker 2>the off season? Where I grew up, there's a little

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<v Speaker 2>boardwalk called the Willows in Salem, Massachusetts. During the summer,

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<v Speaker 2>it is very heaven ski ball and arcade games and

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<v Speaker 2>miniature rides to the kids and the best sloppiest fucking

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese American place that makes this fucking sandwich will quote

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<v Speaker 2>a generous slice of American cheese, and it's all great.

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<v Speaker 2>But in the winter, oh man, so desolate. The food

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<v Speaker 2>places are still open, and sometimes an arcade will still

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<v Speaker 2>be open, but there are no tourists. There are barely

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<v Speaker 2>any locals, just you and the guy who makes the

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<v Speaker 2>popcorn bars and the saltwater taffy. Am I feeling nostalgic

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<v Speaker 2>for home?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to go to Blackpool, motherfuckers. If I've learned

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<v Speaker 2>anything in this life, it's this the cool people are

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<v Speaker 2>always going to leave us, and the bankrupt, boring worst

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<v Speaker 2>of us will be left behind. That was the case

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<v Speaker 2>this week when we lost a fucking giant. I oh boy,

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea how hard his death would hit me.

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<v Speaker 2>But the world got a little less interesting with the

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<v Speaker 2>passing of mister Val Kilmer. I'm gonna do my damness

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<v Speaker 2>not to lose my shit during the next twenty or

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<v Speaker 2>six minutes. Pretty sure we all loved him. Obviously, he

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<v Speaker 2>put his stamp on Doctor John Holiday. That will be

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<v Speaker 2>nigh impossible to top that portrayal. How could anyone be

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<v Speaker 2>Doc Holliday? After Kilmer's antique drawl whispers in your ear,

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<v Speaker 2>how much better it is? Here's my favorite line, By

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<v Speaker 2>the way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very cosmopouloism. Sheriff may I present a pair of

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<v Speaker 1>fellows sophisticates in Turkey Creek, Jack Johnson, Texas Jack of

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<v Speaker 2>There are way too many roles in way too many

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<v Speaker 2>triumphs to get into any kind of full on retrospective here.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me say, if you haven't seen the documentary, vow,

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck are you waiting for? Do you need

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<v Speaker 2>another demonstration of how fleeting everything can be. I realized

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<v Speaker 2>the irony of telling you to live life with us

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<v Speaker 2>by watching a documentary about an actor, is to which

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<v Speaker 2>I say, shut the fuck up, Go watch the documentary.

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<v Speaker 2>The motherfucker always had a video camera. You can see

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<v Speaker 2>every portion of his life. It's incredible, including when he

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<v Speaker 2>was a kid doing this wicked quint from Jaws impression

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<v Speaker 2>with actual funny punchlines. Or maybe it was the performance.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's streaming for free. It's going to break your heart.

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<v Speaker 2>But now is an excellent time for that. There are

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<v Speaker 2>really so many goddamn good performances. There are entire raps

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<v Speaker 2>of films that can be said to have only one

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<v Speaker 2>good thing in them going into that's Val Kilmer. But

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<v Speaker 2>you can discover those on your own. And naturally he

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<v Speaker 2>is inextricably linked with Jim Morrison and The Doors. I

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<v Speaker 2>think mister Kilmer's version of five to one is superior

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<v Speaker 2>to the original. Is that sacrilege or sacrilicious? That movie

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<v Speaker 2>is always worth a rewatch. And here's the thing about

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<v Speaker 2>Val Kilmer's and Batman. When you cast that part, you're

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<v Speaker 2>really casting Bruce Wayne because the bat is pretty interchangeable

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<v Speaker 2>unless you're gonna do something nuts like try to growl

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<v Speaker 2>like a demon with limited vocal range. That might set

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<v Speaker 2>you apart. But I will say that Val Kilmer as

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<v Speaker 2>Batman is really the only good performance of that character.

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<v Speaker 2>It isn't camp or kitsch like George Clooney or Adam West.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not overly serious like Christian Bale or Robert Pattinson.

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<v Speaker 2>And he can move his neck unlike Michael Keaton. And

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<v Speaker 2>since I'm dropping in Val Kilmer vocals in this episode,

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<v Speaker 2>here is my favorite delivery of a line in any

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<v Speaker 2>Batman film. Matman has just busted his way inside the

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<v Speaker 2>helicopter that two Face has been using to menace Gotham.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the quickest, most informal line that Beliza relationship and

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<v Speaker 2>complicated history that we can only dream of.

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<v Speaker 1>You need hell harm him, give it up.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're not even close to running out of iconic

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<v Speaker 2>roles in films like Heat. You were there for the

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<v Speaker 2>New York stage actors getting together for the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>I was there for Mad Martigan with a machine gun.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of Mad Martigan, I know they did that spinoff

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<v Speaker 2>series recently, but who cares too little too late? We

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<v Speaker 2>deserved a Mad Martigan standalone flick or a franchise further advent.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely the Mad Martikan chronicles Chiching. I mean, I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>even mentioned Iceman and Top Gun. It's pretty fucking iconic.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that we're covering that gang. I mean, you're probably

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<v Speaker 2>read the title, so it's not like a huge surprise

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<v Speaker 2>or anything. I don't know what your Val Kilmer origin

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<v Speaker 2>tale might be for me. I first saw his For me,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw his first film in the theater. I'd say

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<v Speaker 2>up until Kiss, Kiss, Bang Bang, I saw everything of

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<v Speaker 2>Val Kilmer's in the theater. I don't think I was

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<v Speaker 2>even conscious of doing it. Some performers are just like that.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were to ask me my favorite musicians, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how early on the list, I'd say Linda

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<v Speaker 2>Ronstadt ranks, but I look at my record collection and

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<v Speaker 2>I own every fucking album she put out. Either I'm

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<v Speaker 2>mk ultra condition to buy every Linda Ronstadt record, or

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a big fucking fan of that lady. And the

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<v Speaker 2>movie that really did it for me with Val Kilmer

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<v Speaker 2>was his second feature, though really his first, honest to god,

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<v Speaker 2>actual narrative feature film, get Ready for the Tanning Invitational

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<v Speaker 2>Get Down, into those steam tunnels and into Laslow's pajamas.

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<v Speaker 2>Put on your yellow mock turtlenecks. It's ill genius.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to hear about any problems done, just

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<v Speaker 3>as long as we have a working weapon by the

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<v Speaker 3>end of June. I haven't had a working weapon since Korea.

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<v Speaker 1>When the military runs short on brains, they go hunting

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<v Speaker 1>at Pacific Tech, an exclusive institution for outstanding intellects, where

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<v Speaker 1>the superstar of smarts is Chris Knight.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a jacuzzi.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, His hobbies violate the laws of gravity. What are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing out there floating, sir? His homework could win

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<v Speaker 1>a Nobel prize.

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<v Speaker 2>He's one of the ten finest minds in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>And his IQ is higher than most people can count.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't stand it.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you ever seen a body like this before in

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<v Speaker 3>guess you had.

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<v Speaker 1>But when Chris makes the scientific discovery of the century,

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<v Speaker 1>you did it. His classmates want the credit.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not number one around here anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>His professor wants the publicity I and the military wants

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<v Speaker 1>to use his discovery as the ultimate weapon.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not good.

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<v Speaker 1>So Chris is about to turn getting even into a

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<v Speaker 1>science start and show them Roger open bombay doors. They

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<v Speaker 2>It's no longer laying efficially.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not shutting down.

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<v Speaker 1>Shut it down, real genius.

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<v Speaker 4>Number.

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<v Speaker 2>When Animal House was released in seventy eight, it marked

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<v Speaker 2>well as making life hell for cafeteria janitorial staff four

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<v Speaker 2>years to come. But in addition to inspiring what must

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<v Speaker 2>occurring at schools since time immemorial. And while tales of

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<v Speaker 2>you'd hear of schemes and pranks that were actually just

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<v Speaker 2>fun or inventive. Madison, Wisconsin's official bird is the plastic

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<v Speaker 2>pink Flamingo, thanks to a University of Wisconsin prank in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy nine. In nineteen eighty two, Mit, which has

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<v Speaker 2>of an upcoming Yale and Harvard game. It inflated explosively

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<v Speaker 2>mid play. We all won that game. The granddaddy of

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<v Speaker 2>weirdo pranks and eccentricity has always been cal Tech, California

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<v Speaker 2>Technical Institute. They've been at it since the fucking twenties.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you a recent one. Because most of

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<v Speaker 2>They inflated a cal Tech blimp inside the dome. They

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<v Speaker 2>to read the other Institute of Technology. It was stories

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<v Speaker 2>like that that cut a script together from Pat Proft

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<v Speaker 2>Fry Theater. That script was eventually refined uncredited by Loel

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<v Speaker 2>She added a whole lot of smart and dispensed with

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<v Speaker 2>the typical sex comedy script was riddled with. Interestingly, the

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<v Speaker 2>villain was originally named doctor Atherton that changed to Hathaway

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<v Speaker 2>when professional eighties asshole William Atherton was cast in that role.

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<v Speaker 2>So now, in the wake of Animal House and the

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<v Speaker 2>Rise of Snobs versus Slob's humor, Real Genius gives us

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<v Speaker 2>something entirely new. Smart people, they're still having sex, but

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<v Speaker 2>it isn't the focus of the goddamn film. You've got

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<v Speaker 2>a fuddy duddy old dean at your university. He acts

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<v Speaker 2>like a real dick when you guys party so hard

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<v Speaker 2>you destroy an entire city block. Well, how about an

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<v Speaker 2>administration complicit with the black op section of the defense

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<v Speaker 2>industry using your inventions for political assassination. Now that's something

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<v Speaker 2>to rally behind with a little more meat on the

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<v Speaker 2>bone than who can chug the most beer. Real Genius

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<v Speaker 2>follows Mitch Taylor in the original script, Mitch Simon, a

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen year old savant who's accepted midterm to the fictional

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<v Speaker 2>Pacific Tech, where he's partnered with a famed student genius

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<v Speaker 2>named Chris Knight originally Chris Kinsley. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>these minor changes from script to screen tickle me so much,

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<v Speaker 2>but they really do. Chris is kind of the platonic

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<v Speaker 2>ideal of the eighties wise ass hero. He's actually that

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<v Speaker 2>smart and he's actually that fun. Ryan Reynolds has based

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<v Speaker 2>his entire goddamn career on emulating this character. No, not

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<v Speaker 2>the character, this performance. It'd be easy to turn Chris

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<v Speaker 2>Knight into an insufferable person, but they lucked out here

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<v Speaker 2>with the second screen performance of Val Kilmer Olmers. Chris

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<v Speaker 2>Knight is my absolute fucking hero, top to bottom. He

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<v Speaker 2>is an aspirational icon, incredible sense of style, incredible good looks,

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<v Speaker 2>incredible sense of irreverence, and he's the smartest guy in

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<v Speaker 2>the fucking room. I possess none of those qualities, but man,

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<v Speaker 2>I did and still do aspire to bet Chris Knight.

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<v Speaker 2>On a side note, at age thirteen, I went to

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<v Speaker 2>the mall to one of those T shirt places, you remember,

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<v Speaker 2>those T shirt places, like the iron On places, and

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<v Speaker 2>I had them make me a replica of the Monkey's

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<v Speaker 2>T shirt Chris Knight wears in this film. They had

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<v Speaker 2>to dig the design out of the back, but I

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<v Speaker 2>wore that goddamn shirt proudly knowing that Chris Knight agreed

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<v Speaker 2>that the monkeys were cool. Speaking of which, two of

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<v Speaker 2>the Monkey's guest stars show up as professors here, Monty

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<v Speaker 2>landis as the dismissive prick when we first meet Chris Knight,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the amazing, the incredible, the legendary Severn Darden

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<v Speaker 2>as the befuddled professor Meredith. If you don't know Severn Darden,

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<v Speaker 2>look him up. He is a major force in the

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<v Speaker 2>early improv scene and a really interesting human being. Some

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<v Speaker 2>of those pranks and scenarios that occurred in real life

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<v Speaker 2>At Caltech In nineteen forty a car was disassembled and

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<v Speaker 2>then reassembled inside a dorm room. It was a model

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<v Speaker 2>t Ford and it was idling when they discovered it.

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<v Speaker 2>How about the McDonald's contest in nineteen seventy five, where

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<v Speaker 2>you could enter as many times as you liked. Students

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<v Speaker 2>did They won twenty percent of the prizes, including a

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<v Speaker 2>new station wagon. They wants froze a stairwell and used

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<v Speaker 2>it for sledding. As it melted, it became a whitewater

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<v Speaker 2>rafting spot. There is a legendary student who cracked and

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<v Speaker 2>retreated into the steam tunnels, where he spent three semesters.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the inspirations for the film that wasn't previous prank,

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<v Speaker 2>but a student. The producers and director encountered Phyllis Rostchis

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<v Speaker 2>nickname Trigger became the basis for hyperkinetic student Jordan played

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<v Speaker 2>by Michelle Myrin. That character would have then inspire gadget

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<v Speaker 2>Hack Wrench on Chippendale Rescue Rangers. Jordan eventually falls for

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<v Speaker 2>Mitch in the film's Only Real stab At Romance. A

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<v Speaker 2>word about Mitch, played by Gabe jam Mister Jarrett is

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<v Speaker 2>so much so that when my late wife Jessica was

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to reveal halfway through that Mitch was

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<v Speaker 2>actually a girl. I hadn't thought of it when I

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<v Speaker 2>it when I rewatch it. Oh and speaking of weird

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<v Speaker 2>inside jokes, the initials INDI appear throughout the film Darlington

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<v Speaker 2>Electronics Incorporated. Later there's a van with Drain Experts Incorporated.

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<v Speaker 2>It stands for it Dabney Eats It, which is not

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<v Speaker 2>a reference to Dabney Coleman's failed network show, but actually

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<v Speaker 2>one of the houses on the campus of cal Tech,

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<v Speaker 2>Dabney House, where during the fifties, a dish of noodles

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<v Speaker 2>was so unpalatable that it inspired the phrase They were

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<v Speaker 2>a conservative bastion until the sixties, when the entire house

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<v Speaker 2>became radicalized. Since then, they've put those initials everywhere they

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<v Speaker 2>can scrawl it. Innumerable satellites are orbiting above your head

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<v Speaker 2>right now, festooned with DEI. Those letters are at the

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<v Speaker 2>top of everest has it, They're on the moon. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk in music. There are eighty soundtracks you can point

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<v Speaker 2>to as cultural touchstones of time and place. Fast times

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<v Speaker 2>at Ridgemont High Valley Girl, where usually a soundtrack supervisor

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<v Speaker 2>or consultant cherry picks a few dozen tracks from the

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<v Speaker 2>most popular or guaranteed up and comers to present to

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<v Speaker 2>the filmmaker. That's how you end up with what could

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<v Speaker 2>pass for a greatest hit of That's that's how you

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<v Speaker 2>end up with what could pass for a greatest hits

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<v Speaker 2>of new wave samplers. The other more prevalent eighties soundtrack

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<v Speaker 2>can be exemplified by real genius. There are a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of tracks from then proven winners Don Henley Tears for Fears,

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<v Speaker 2>and then a whole bunch of songs that sounded good

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<v Speaker 2>at the time and go ahead, just put them on there.

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<v Speaker 2>Such situations can be awful, better off dead, y'all. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been arrested by you take me you, Oh my God.

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<v Speaker 2>Or it could be something like number one by Chaz Jankle.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one is.

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<v Speaker 5>A hot time, I'm making.

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<v Speaker 3>Shock? What else?

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<v Speaker 2>Not great?

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<v Speaker 1>Not bad?

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<v Speaker 2>Does the job? Or I'm falling by the comsat Angels.

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<v Speaker 2>To be fair, if you named your band after Cutting

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<v Speaker 2>Age Tech, you were probably gonna end up on the

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<v Speaker 2>Real Genius soundtrack. No better than all Those, though, is

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<v Speaker 2>a Brian Adams song One Night Love Affair. This is

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite song from that Canadian and describes my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>kind of romance, not a one night stand, although the

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<v Speaker 2>name implies that I'm talking about that brief coming together,

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<v Speaker 2>not physically at all, just a complete surrender to a

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<v Speaker 2>to past or future, the audio equivalent of lost in translation,

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose I'm gonna put that song at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of this episode. They've threatened to remake A Real Genius

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<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch of times over the years. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they may have gotten close just about a decade ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't do it, or at least please do it very

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<v Speaker 2>very well. I mean a show about smart kids inspiring

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<v Speaker 2>other actual smart kids to make our lives better while

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<v Speaker 2>constantly fucking shit up. Couldn't hurt these days. Okay, Jesus,

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you're excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit it HP. But we have here a list of

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<v Speaker 1>these things. If we're good, we're gonna try it. In

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna try and get you to say it ain't

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<v Speaker 2>over tell us over and say is it true or

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<v Speaker 3>When I when I'd brush on some of these, No,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not true.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. You wanted the director of that movie Island of Doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>Morot to be fired.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, not true, shruved the Batman director. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do that. Not true. On the set of.

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<v Speaker 2>Tombstone you grabbed a locust and extra hat and ate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that is true, all right. You were responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>the breakup of Hall and Oates.

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<v Speaker 2>I was young.

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<v Speaker 1>I reformed they broke up.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, If real genius wasn't far back enough for you,

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<v Speaker 2>young Ripley suggests you take a step further with a

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<v Speaker 2>trip to zaz Land. That's Zucker Abrams Zucker The Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>Fried Theater Folk, The Kentucky Fried Movie Folk, The Airplane Folk,

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<v Speaker 2>in a tailspin pun intended when he compared it with

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<v Speaker 2>his upcoming Flip Caddy Shank. The As Boys had such

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<v Speaker 2>a huge success with Airplane that they were basically given

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<v Speaker 2>carte blanche for their next feature. There's no other way

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<v Speaker 2>to describe the creation of top Secret.

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<v Speaker 5>Waab bamb a love bamboo too, pruda a rut it

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<v Speaker 5>to the fruit ho rut.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh root it o bamboo. Get a girl name soup?

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<v Speaker 3>Just what to do?

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<v Speaker 1>Gotta got her name soup? No, just want to do.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, I'm not the first guy of fell in love

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<v Speaker 5>with the girl he met in a restaurant who then

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<v Speaker 5>turned out to be the daughter of a kidnapped scientist.

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<v Speaker 5>Only the loser who were childhood lover, whom she'd last

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<v Speaker 5>seen on a deserted island, and who turned out fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Years later to be the leader of the French underground.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it all sounds like some bad movie.

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<v Speaker 5>A girl named Daisy, She almost have me crazy, She's

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<v Speaker 5>almost ound me crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>You want me to the west sees the.

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<v Speaker 5>Girl that I love best.

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<v Speaker 3>The dordt.

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<v Speaker 5>Rooted rootedded? How rooted Pablo Bamba love Bamboo?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you follow a pointed tank down of the

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<v Speaker 2>disaster film genre? A cold war thriller sent during World

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<v Speaker 2>War Two with a rock and roll hero. Basically, if

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<v Speaker 2>Elvis had fought the Nazis during the sixties while World

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<v Speaker 2>War Two was going on, now, that's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a difficult premise to laur an audience. So we got

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<v Speaker 2>to give him something recognizable in the lead. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>the third lead of that Broadway production of Slab Boys.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, you can see that production of Slab

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<v Speaker 2>Boys if you go watch that vow documentary. I'm telling

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<v Speaker 2>you he shot everything. They were looking for a young

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<v Speaker 2>Elvis to play their proxy Nick Rivers for this film.

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<v Speaker 2>They got the future King instead. Remember True Romance Clarence's

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<v Speaker 2>guardian angel is Elvis Prinsley played by Val Kilmer. It

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<v Speaker 2>ran up there with Kurt Russell's portrayal of the King

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<v Speaker 2>in John Carpenter's TV movie Elvis, Val Kilmer, Kurt Russell

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<v Speaker 2>Tombstone Stop Haunting Me. This movie Top Secret represents one

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<v Speaker 2>of my favorite aspects of Val Kilmer as an actor.

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<v Speaker 2>He was game man name a genre he didn an

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<v Speaker 2>attempt name a style of acting he wouldn't slip into

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<v Speaker 2>for that character. I know this was his first film,

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<v Speaker 2>and at that point in your career you'll pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>do anything. I doubt Charlie's than would accept a role

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<v Speaker 2>in Children of the Corn three these days, but Val

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<v Speaker 2>Kilmer might have. And he came back to do other comedies,

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<v Speaker 2>and not just comedies, but very silly comedies.

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<v Speaker 1>Over and over again.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at anything he did with The Lonely Island. MacGruber

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<v Speaker 2>is fantastic, largely because of how straight he's playing that role.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing, silly comedy. He's great in the

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<v Speaker 2>straight man role there, and the very silly role of

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Rivers in Top Secret. Not everyone can do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we can all agree. Christopher Reeve is an

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<v Speaker 2>enormously talented dramatic actor. I think he's even been funny

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of times. But watch that Muppet Show he hosted.

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<v Speaker 2>Reverend is not Superman's forte. I'll just say that Batman

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<v Speaker 2>would have killed on the Muppet Show. Talking about you,

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<v Speaker 2>Val Kilmer, this is probably just going to devolve into

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<v Speaker 2>a list of my favorite bits from the movie. But

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<v Speaker 2>before that, I just want to say that this was

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<v Speaker 2>a genre unto itself, the zazz genre. This type of

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<v Speaker 2>bizarro plot doesn't matter, it's just to get us to

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<v Speaker 2>the next gag. Well, a dozen other gags are occurring

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<v Speaker 2>in the foreground and the background, and the gags are

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<v Speaker 2>as pointed as direct references to then current pop culture

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<v Speaker 2>and as timeless as the best slapstick. But what's interesting

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<v Speaker 2>about Top Secret is that it shows what we're effectively

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<v Speaker 2>three defunct genres to parody World War two, Cold War

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<v Speaker 2>thrillers and Elvis movies, and now this genre itself is dead.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a dead genre parodying three other dead genres.

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<v Speaker 2>And anyone claiming this type of film is still being

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<v Speaker 2>made is incorrect. Those Friedberg Seltz films, disaster movie, here

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<v Speaker 2>come the Spartans. Whatever the fuck They didn't just put

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<v Speaker 2>the nail in the coffin. They dug a fucking hole

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<v Speaker 2>in the ground and then kicked the casket into it

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<v Speaker 2>and waste on top of it. So I'm actually curious

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<v Speaker 2>with a movie link Top Secret, which did and does

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<v Speaker 2>work just as a funny movie, how it would appear

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<v Speaker 2>in the eyes of newer, younger viewers. Does any of

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<v Speaker 2>it resonate beyond how fucking silly some of the jokes are.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of game, how awesome is that Peter Cushing not

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<v Speaker 2>only agreed to do a scene in reverse, but with

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<v Speaker 2>a giant prosthetic eye over half his face. I love

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<v Speaker 2>all the perspective jokes in this movie. The giant telephone,

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<v Speaker 2>the pigeon statue, Oh my god, the underwater fight. All right, See,

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<v Speaker 2>I told you I was just gonna end up listing things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's late.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got two more shows to record this morning, so

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<v Speaker 2>that's gonna be doing it for us. Watch all of

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<v Speaker 2>all Kimber's work, all of you you have homework now.

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<v Speaker 2>He is never uninteresting and at the very least you

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<v Speaker 2>get to watch one of the most beautiful people on

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<v Speaker 2>the planet. Thanks for listening. We've got another Tales from

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<v Speaker 2>the dark Side this Friday, and then the Friday after

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<v Speaker 2>we're continuing Fusco Fest. We're Noise Junkies host HP and

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<v Speaker 2>I are tackling the career of screenwriter John Fusco. We've

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<v Speaker 2>already got Crossroads and Young Guns done. You can get

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<v Speaker 2>those on the regular feet. Next up his Young Guns too,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's going to be a spectacular episode. Patreon dot

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<v Speaker 2>com slash father Malone gets things early and commercial free.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, we'd leave you with Brian Adams and we

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<v Speaker 2>are talk to you next week.

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<v Speaker 6>Show regulators. You regulate any stealing of his property.

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<v Speaker 3>We're damn good too.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can't be any jek off the street.

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<v Speaker 6>You gotta be handed with the steel, if you know

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<v Speaker 6>what I mean, or you.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep regulars.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 6>No, it was a clear black knight, a clear white

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<v Speaker 6>woman was on the streets trying to conserve some starch

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<v Speaker 6>for the eve.

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<v Speaker 2>So why could get something.

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