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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to the Gimmick. The

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first edition of The Gimmick in twenty twenty six. I

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am for my grieving boy here at the Canadian Nightmare

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tras now, and I'm joined by.

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Speaker 2: The bouncier than because I was struggling with the name

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and all I kept thinking about was Javon Evans and

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my poor guy in his untelevised contract signing.

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Speaker 1: Someone signing Meltzer says they don't see him as a

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franchise player, you know what a week for Javon and

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then goes to me roster, so we'll see.

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Speaker 3: And then, unless I.

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Speaker 4: Was trying to think of a good one, the best

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one I had was just like a really dumb one,

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which was just gonna be, which is this is gonna

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be s Buve's the future Kazarian because he's still not

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like years old. But it's funny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't remember.

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Speaker 1: I saw something one of those classic like He's a

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Demon trending on my timeline and.

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Speaker 3: It's like these clips are all from like, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Something they did later on post on those like a

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match from last week. But it was like like it's

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like he does the same, like I would say he's

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a bad wrestler, Like he still does the same ways

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he did back then. Obviously, it's like until like he

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kind of hurting himself when he's doing that leg drop

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like yeah to the apron, like to the floor. He

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tells it's hurting to do.

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Speaker 3: That, but he's older. Like that.

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Speaker 1: That happens to everybody, right, they all slowed down. I

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think with Kazarian, he just never fully it sounds bad,

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but like I think his peak in general is probably

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like the first couple of years of aw when they're in.

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Speaker 3: SCU because he just he never had that. He doesn't

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not have I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's like he's not like a you get on the

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mic and like, oh my god's awful. It's just there's

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always something missing. And like Mike, I can never take

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what Kazarian's character was, you know, Like I know he

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was like the elite hunter for what but like for

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the past ten years, he's.

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Speaker 4: Just like his guy right now is literally just like

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I've been in TNA a long time, Like like his characters,

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he's the king of TNA because he's been in DNA

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a long time and like you know, all the time,

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like he's just on commentary.

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Speaker 3: I don't like to hear.

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Speaker 4: That he won the world like like he won the

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world title and before that, like I think the last

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ten times he was in a pay per view main

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event was because he was on commentary.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a few things, like I'm not gonna jump

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on him the same way Kevin Nashes, but like I'm

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with Nash. I don't like T shirt wrestlers. I don't

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if you're wearing a T shirt dur in your match,

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I don't like it. There's a few people like Kevin

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Owens I can work, but no, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't like it.

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Speaker 1: And I don't like active wrestlers on compaar. I hate

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like obviously he even was the greatest, but when Jericho

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was doing aw comptair, I hated that. I just I

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don't mind if it's like the you know, in the

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I guess like your opponentsy, that's fine, like a guest spot,

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but when they're active.

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Speaker 3: They're like Rocky Romeo like in New Japan.

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Speaker 1: He still does it like he's on comp chart and like, man,

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we'll talk by I watched at least matches wrestling.

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Speaker 4: He's awful.

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Speaker 3: He's awful right now.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't he like book some of the American stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like under Gato or something like that.

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Speaker 1: But like and he wasn't bad before when he was

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like a baby face commentary but as a heel comte.

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Speaker 3: There was one times like in the middle of the match.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember the two New Japan commentaries, but they're like, yeah, Rocky,

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you want to speak to Ocdda's poker face dead silence

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for like fifteen twenty seconds, and then the other guy

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was like, well, you know what Ocada's poker face, But.

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Speaker 3: Rocky didn't even track it. He didn't. He just like

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let it hang there.

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Speaker 1: And there's multimes on the match, and like that New

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Japan team needs some they need some they need some

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talent over there. They need like the way aw has

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like fifteen commentaries. They need to steal want to get

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in New Japan. Because I didn't love I didn't love

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the commentary on New Japan. I only watched the Suji

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Talk match and a ton of Hashei match.

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Speaker 3: And which we'll talk about a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I'm able to talk about now quickly because it's not

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too much today, but like, yeah, commentary is like a

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little bit desired there in New Japan.

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Speaker 5: Right now.

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Speaker 1: It's not not the greatest. The Australian guy. I think

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he's just there because he can translate Japanese. I think,

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you know, I don't know, so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris Charlton, I think it's his name is He

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is horrible. I'm not gonna sugarcoat it.

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Speaker 6: I get it.

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Speaker 2: Like after the whole Kevin Kelly thing, like they were

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out of commentators, like they lost Kevin Kelly, they callous

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left to love Don Kallis. Yeah, yeah, they lost Jr.

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They lost like all these people at the same time.

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But then they brought in Chris Charlton because he's an

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English speaker who also speaks Japanese. But man that he

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is hard to listen to it times.

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Speaker 1: And like this was always the case when I was

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watching New Japan way in the past and then full

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time in the like twenty seven and twenty nineteen era.

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Speaker 3: I still I don't know.

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Speaker 1: If I like, I know, it can't be perfect, but

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they need to find a way to hit English translator

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like subtitles on the screen, like if YouTube can do it,

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like right away. I mean New Japan doesn't want pay

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for it, but there's nothing like tan Hashi kind of

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emotional promo and then that guy just translated from the

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whole time and like deadpan, like.

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Speaker 3: He's really happier tonight, He's happy. All you could make

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it up.

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Speaker 1: It's it's just like hit some of the worst stuff

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to watch it. Yeah, yeah, even if it's not one

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hundred percent, I'll take it over.

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Speaker 3: This guy just saying it like coldly.

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Speaker 1: As possible, like a ton of Hash's speech, which was

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crazy because I watched it after the fact, and so

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I cause I just watched it, I said, I watched

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Sushi and Talk.

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Speaker 3: I watched to Hashi and the matches.

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Speaker 1: I think like thirty five forty minutes, like somewhere in there,

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like even without entest is there.

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Speaker 3: And then I saw on the screen the time that

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was left, and I thought, oh, well, clearly half an hour.

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Speaker 1: That's like an at a PO show Mike, And so

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I watched everything where of course he lost. He does

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his speech and then everyone comes out and then he's

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saying goodbye. He does another speech, and then I'm like, hey,

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what's go And I jump like twenty minutes' head and

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here he is on a fucking WrestleMania two cart, waving

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the crowd.

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Speaker 3: I cut again he's on the stage with his flowers.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, literally he was out there for about forty

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five minutes after everybody came out after the speeches, everything

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just walk around, which I'm not saying he doesn't deserve.

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I just could believe, like, Wow, No, wonder why Russell

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Kingdom had that smaller card because literally.

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Speaker 4: Make sure it was like they were playing it like

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on a TV station, like that wasn't just a paper ree.

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So they had the time limit, so I'm wondering, like

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they must have been like, okay, we have we have

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one hour time for matches and two hour time for

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for duns, my.

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Speaker 3: Favorite thing, which I would have not booked it at all.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe, because David, did you watch the full

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show or just like the last few matches?

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Speaker 3: What did you watch?

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Speaker 2: I watched the beginning couple of matches and then I

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skipped and watched the last two matches.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't watch the whole show because everyone told

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me up until like the last three was not a

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good show.

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Speaker 4: And I looked at it. I didn't see it, but

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I looked at like the like the drop kicked ratings

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because usually those wrestled kingdoms like if there's like through

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two or three, like a great matches on it, the

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rating will be like four point nine nine out of

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five stars. And this one had like a had like

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a four average rating.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they heard a lot of the earlier matches, but

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that thing where so like that's all I watched, and

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they do a ton of HASHCAA, which I thought was

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really good for me.

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Speaker 3: It was like a like a four point two, but

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I saw like a lot. I get it.

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Speaker 1: Lots of people rate it very high, and I understand

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that because I'm a fan of Japan, but I've not

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watched it my whole life, so I get there's definitely

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like a nostalgia and sint On Hashi and I think

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it was.

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Speaker 3: Good for what he could do.

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Speaker 1: And then he lost, but yeah, I thought it was

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a really good main event I had like that new

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Japan Energy. They do the classic Rick Flair thing, which

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I kind of wish. They did a scene where like

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one by one big rivals of his career came out

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and then I get it because he's with Noah now,

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but all of them leave and then Nito gets to

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come out last. Nito with the longest entrance and this

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is circling back to what s was someone with the

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TV and the timing. Literally at one point when they show, uh,

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what'sn hashe in the ring? Night was just standing there

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and tana hashi' is literally tapping his wrists like let's go,

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like and he did it like rap.

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Speaker 3: It up, like trying to tell like the people like.

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Speaker 4: The Jeff Keeley please are.

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Speaker 1: And like I like no, like anybody else, but like

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it was like an innoxious entrance to me.

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Speaker 4: I thought he did aman reins entrance for ton.

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Speaker 1: It's not like he's back in New Japan, even his problems,

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like I may never wrestle in this ring again.

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Speaker 3: It's like I don't give a shit about you right now, Nito.

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Speaker 1: Like it was so it was to the point where

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it was a surprise, but then after the fact, I

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was like, you know what, I don't know if I

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would have Nito here, if it was going to be

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this big hubbabaloo.

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Speaker 3: But that was good. And then Sushi and.

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Speaker 4: This one that one I did see, yes called start

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calling it immediately.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which was so funny because he comes and he's

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still like playing like his aw heel thing. He's like

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doing like he's sure he was plugging his ears. I

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was like, all right, sure, but uh no. I watched that,

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and then I watched Talking Suji, which was actually really

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really good.

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Speaker 3: It like that was a.

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Speaker 1: Classic New Japan, like slow, we're building and I love

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the last five minutes. It's just them standing there and

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just like both guys like I hate you and I'm

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gonna throw whatever I can at you.

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Speaker 3: And then Suji got the better of it.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, what do you think of wrestled kingdody of

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what you did watch in the Tanahashee retirement.

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Speaker 2: So, like I said, I watched the first uh two matches,

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then I skipped the next two matches. I watched the

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United in part match just because I really liked them,

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and then skip the next matches. Saw the Suji match.

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I really liked Cji match. I think it was as

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shocked as I am that uh He beat Takeshta because

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Takesha's looks so strong in every match that he's been in,

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whether it be aw or New Japan. I'm happy that

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they have like of them guy who can be in

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Japan holding the belt. I'm even happier that they brought

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back the version four of.

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Speaker 3: The God.

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Speaker 1: For years the second that was unveiled, Everyone's like, what

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is this piece of cra.

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Speaker 4: It's the new Ja Van Divas title.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so I'm happy with that. And you know,

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Akana versus Tanahashi was just a fun match. Like I

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didn't expect Tanahashi to be the Tana Hashi of ten

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years ago. I wasn't expect ding, you know, Russell Kingham's

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ten through fifteen, ton of Hashey. I'm like, this man's

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got some beat up knees and he is doing his best.

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Speaker 4: Doing that when he did almost doing before.

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Speaker 3: That's what it's like. I get it, Peel Love. I'm

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like when I saw that's fun, Like, I'm like I

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can't get this five stars, you know, like that there's

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those needs and granted it's fine, he's doing his best,

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but those knees were screaming for agony in that match.

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and I'm just like, God, like, I'll respect you, ton

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of Hashey, but we could we could cut at least

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ten minutes off of this and it'd still be a

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good match.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll see I hope, because, like people have said,

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New Japan's been like Rocky lately and I would love

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to start watching in full time so people I feel

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like with that. And I heard New Year's Dash was

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really good, which I didn't watch, but even the setup

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of fucking of course andrades back, but just to them

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even announce and stuff they're like they're doing, and I

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think it's the beginning of February, like Andraate versus Cape Kid,

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I'm like, geez, he's a wise or maybe it's not

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beginning of February, because I feel because Gab's kids contract

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supposed to be out in January.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'll find that out, but I'm hoping they can

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have like.

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Speaker 1: A somewhat of a number one yes in the Winter

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fight Suji, which I've only seen a few things of Suji,

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which so far I've.

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Speaker 3: Liked everything with him. I like his gimmick like a style.

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Speaker 1: So and either one is interesting because Gabe Kid obviously

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a very different style and then Androtti very different style

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than Androtti is already back in aw so man like

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he's he's making.

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Speaker 3: Moves all the time. Man, he's he's the Wolf of

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wallshitt of wrestling. He's just everywhere.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so what we're gonna do today we're gonna

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talk on some other topics in w and AW that

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and then some stuff that is kind of we've missed

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out on since because I think our last show was

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there's a scene of retirement show, right, I think mid December. Yeah,

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and then for the next shows for GM out, we're

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still gonna figure out, Well, we're gonna see what happens there.

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We're still gonna at least finish that season and do

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our matches the third season. We'll figure out if we do,

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we'll figure out if you who's if any of us are.

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Speaker 3: Buying two K twenty six, we will get back.

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Speaker 1: Of course, right now, Sundays are super paying the ass

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for me right now, so hopefully we'll get figure that out.

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But that's gonna be a TVD. And then the other

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thing is I forgot the rumble.

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Speaker 3: It's already the thirty first, So are we supposed to

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have a draft like shake up again before that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll we'll see because because that would be

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next week, but then.

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Speaker 4: The week so I mean it could be the week

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not next week, but the week after.

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Speaker 1: That, but the wee uh yeah, yeah, I guess because

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then we then we gotta yeah, and then we gotta

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cover the Rumble two on the week after, So yeah,

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maybe we'll try and do something for the twenty fourth,

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twenty fifth, and then yeah, we'll do a Rumble episode

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whether that's the night at like the right after the

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show or the Sunday, so we'll figure out.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, look out for.

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Speaker 1: That because we'll try and figure that out because yeah,

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it's kind of a I.

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Speaker 3: Don't know why. I guess it's I guess the same

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time as usual, it's always like what our Pro Bowl weekend?

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But yeah, so we got it.

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Speaker 6: They finished building the stadium, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that stadium as I'll be curious to see it.

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But before we continue on, I suppose you have the

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current draft rankings, because you're saying so big and.

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Speaker 3: Low weeks for one of us and the other of us.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so okay, i'll start. I have it here. Well,

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before I get the titles, I can say, yeah, Travis,

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where was it? Oh, I don't think that's so here

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it is, okay. Yeah, So week forty, which was this week,

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Travis had the best week or best non pl week

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out of anyone in the draft so far.

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Speaker 6: I think justice sure as a rock is covered in

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chills already.

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Speaker 3: Hell yeah, man, Hell yeah.

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Speaker 4: Because you got five points for Ria winning a title,

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five points for drew In in a title, You got

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one point for Brawn just being in a match. You

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got five points for Becky winning a title, two points

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for Live winning a title, and then one point for

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Lyra being in a match.

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Speaker 3: Wow. See I wish, I wish it's all happened on

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a pl E. I could have been.

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Speaker 1: Just just getting the points, but no, I'm very excited.

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Speaker 4: So and then David I said he had the worst

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last three weeks and I can read the So the

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totals for his last three weeks are negative six, negative four,

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and I think that would be negative two title has

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Alia losing his title and then Mellow winning the title,

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which was minus ten because that's his Jober pick. Oh No,

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then minus four for Chelsea losing the title, and minus

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three again for Mellow defending his title, and then minus

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four for Cody losing his title, and then another minus

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three for Melow defending his title. You guys been in

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the positives since uh like four weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: I think in a couple of weeks you gotta drop Mellow.

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's gonna be the play there, because yeah,

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it's funny though.

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Speaker 3: When you read it like that, so many I gotta

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bring up the roster.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: That's so many title changes we've had in the past

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few weeks with them, which I think some are good,

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some are kind of just what all.

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Speaker 4: The mid card women's titles changed hands, counting n XT

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geez at tag team titles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then aviously we got like the men's like

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the the B title now just this past week.

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Speaker 3: But what are these so we have yeah, Mellow, which

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I didn't believe I can get because we haven't covered

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that since then.

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Speaker 1: That was like the Christmas week s Bub's pitched that

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for it happening like that same scenario.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think it was happening. I thought they're gonna

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wait on Mellow.

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Speaker 1: So far, I'm happy, like he's getting good receptions, he's

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getting good pops. Like, I hope he can keep building.

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I really hope that he could hold on this till

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Mania and he gets on the cards out, even if

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it's like a multi six man or whatever.

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Speaker 3: I feel like.

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Speaker 4: The title always like gets gets on the card. I

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feel like it's rare that it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: I know, but that's what I'm hoping that they're like

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serious about Melo, that maybe we can figure out because

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who's meant Like with Dom Dom, you never know right,

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Like he could be the thing, but he could also

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be in some like multi judgment day mixed tag sort

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of thing.

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Speaker 3: So so maybe there's a chance where if like Dom

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isn't defending the IC.

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Speaker 4: Maybe Mellow. I feel like Dom would be like a

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singles match, and I feel like the US title would

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be that multi person match because I can see her

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and like, you put Mellow and you'd put like you got,

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you'd put Cardona in there. Could that's Wherecardon would He'd be.

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Speaker 1: In a card put Gargano, you put you could even

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put Nathan Fraser an axe and at the same time,

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like as a duo you can't which also get in

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with Gargano. I'm there's just lots of little developments that

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happens to have gone very surprised. Sounds like Chomp is

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not resigning and going elsewhere. I'm excited to see what

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he can do. I just kind of thought he'd be

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a lifer, but it kind of makes sense because I

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feel like he's like he's where he's at, Like, I

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don't think he's gonna go any further. But uh yeah, dude,

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what are your thoughts on the US title picture right now?

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Speaker 6: I am shocked, shocked. I tell you that they put

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it on Mellow.

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Speaker 2: I did not think that they would have any faith

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to not only give him a title, but didn't let

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him defend it multiple times. That's the other shot, Ali

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is my man is getting title defenses. So yeah, it's

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it's really it's really shook things up. Chelsea losing the title.

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I wasn't too surprised about. I'm glad she got as

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long as she did.

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Speaker 3: But why do we do anything Chelsea? Do you like

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Julia Chelse?

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Speaker 4: Like I saw this week where it was Julia versus Alexa.

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Where's the first US title match to not feature one

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of Chelsea? Chelsea, Michin or soul Ruka next year has

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gotten like like three different US title shots.

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Speaker 3: That's funny.

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Speaker 1: I think in fact that Michin hasn't haven't got a

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shot yet, you know, like like I mean like I

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like to run with it is kind of crazy, but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's been an interesting title picture. I was

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surprised that they made that switch I saw with the

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Chelsea one. They said that they wanted a shock title change,

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but to me, Julia winning is in a shocked title

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change at all, So like that was like you guys

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just wanted a title change for the sake of title changes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird because I thought them going from Juliet

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Chelsea was like, Okay, this isn't working. We're just gonna

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go back to Chelsea. That was a fun gimmick and

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we'll figure out Julia later and then just to go

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right back to Julie. It's like, yeah, okay, I guess

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like you said to me, it's not like a shock

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title change, because like there's.

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Speaker 4: No The story of the Chelsea ring was just like

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a very simple story, but it didn't really work because

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it was like the first time, like Chelsea wins in

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like a minute by like cheating and roll up, and

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then the story is like Julia just like like confronts

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her and beats her down, holds up the title like

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squashes Alva. They do a tag match and she pins

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Chelsea and then they have the singles match for the

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title and she just beats Chelsea. So it's like the

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only way Chelsea one was just like through cheating and

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then in every other situation, Julia just like destroyed her

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and won the title back.

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Speaker 3: Is Chelsea Because I haven't watched smack Down weekly.

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Speaker 1: I watch it like here they are like I did

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this week with three stages, like certain mattresses. She's just

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getting pure like baby face reactions now, especially with this

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Julia thing, because I just feel like.

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Speaker 4: I feel like they're not like Julia doesn't get like

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any reaction pretty unless someone that's like I think Alexa

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is the only one who got like who they were,

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like at least they were booing Julia when she was

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like hitting Alexa. But that's like the most crowd reaction.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder what we're talking about.

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Speaker 4: L See, she gets like I don't really know, like

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she gets face reactions a lot, but I feel like

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she can get heal reactions. But I guess against like

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the type of like against like the lower and like

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mid card people, she's definitely get in the face three yes, because.

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Speaker 3: It's like, oh, I know this person, I'm a cheer

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for him.

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Speaker 1: So on the other side, for the women's Becky, yeah,

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did take the title back for Maxine.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, like I don't think this was pointless.

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Speaker 1: Gonna think Maxine did grow and I think there's some

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good characters stuff there from what I saw, and seems

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like her matches are a bit better. It definitely just

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seems like we are spinning wheels until because it's so

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funny the way we booked this. They're definitely just spinning

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wheels to do AJ and Becky at Mania, right, because

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I remember, I think we all thought AJ and Becky

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would be done by now or like Rumble. I guess

473
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,240
there's always a chance they could announce it, but I

474
00:20:33,279 --> 00:20:34,799
don't think so. I think AJ will be in her

475
00:20:34,799 --> 00:20:38,160
first ever Rumble. Were always like, man, what's Becky gonna

476
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,079
do with Mania? After AG It's like, oh no, that's

477
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,160
maybe always been the planet. It's just gonna be Becky

478
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,599
and AJ and I.

479
00:20:43,519 --> 00:20:44,400
Speaker 3: Guess that makes sense.

480
00:20:44,519 --> 00:20:46,880
Speaker 1: I guess aj Lee is now working like fucking Roman

481
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,640
reigns programs, where like she feuds with somebody for six

482
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,799
months and that's what happens, which I'm not like. That

483
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,880
just means like it's gonna be such a long time

484
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:59,079
before we get like AJ and Roxanne, AJ and Bailey Agent.

485
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,160
She like feels like each program is gonna go on

486
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,519
a very long time. But I guess that makes sense,

487
00:21:03,559 --> 00:21:05,440
and I would assume I don't know why I need

488
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,880
to early predict it now, but i'd assume age it

489
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,079
has to be Beckett wrestling for the I just think

490
00:21:10,079 --> 00:21:12,880
they want that the actual for skipping with the title, right,

491
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,640
So yeah, yeah. And then on raw, the USO's are

492
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,559
now your world Take Team champions since we've been on

493
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,759
U S and then also we got the women too,

494
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,880
s bubs, what's going on both take situations of raw?

495
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:24,640
Speaker 3: You still like we're.

496
00:21:24,559 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 1: Getting U J Jimmy two no holds barred or you know,

497
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,240
and then what's going on the.

498
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,599
Speaker 4: We don't think so anymore. I feel like I feel

499
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:38,200
like a Mania. It's probably gonna be like I could

500
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:43,119
see it being like like like one of the Vision teams,

501
00:21:43,759 --> 00:21:46,759
like I don't know which call them, or it's like

502
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,759
the like the the not Luca Bros. Like they'll do

503
00:21:50,839 --> 00:21:54,559
they'll do the USOS versus like Penta and Dragonly and

504
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,559
Phoenix will just be on down with with that though.

505
00:21:58,599 --> 00:22:00,880
Speaker 1: You could almost they could do like a triple or

506
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,440
even a four way because if Penn is already involved

507
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,559
with the Vision, they could make it where Usso's Luta Bros.

508
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,640
Or whatever vision and I have those three or one more.

509
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to think.

510
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 1: Of who you can always probably New Day, right, New

511
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,640
Day is just easy to throw in there.

512
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:15,799
Speaker 3: They like getting them on the card.

513
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 1: So I think it's one of those scenarios where it's

514
00:22:18,759 --> 00:22:21,920
yeah them just vision or it is a four way, Yeah,

515
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,079
we're gonna throw all these people.

516
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,759
Speaker 4: I'd probably see them even like just retaining it.

517
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think now that the tribal hair storyline seems

518
00:22:30,079 --> 00:22:33,119
to be not happening anymore, and j Jimmy, Yeah, Jay

519
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,640
Usso's heel run just kind of done. I think that's

520
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:36,079
the case.

521
00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:38,759
Speaker 2: They didn't want to mess up those merch sales. They're

522
00:22:38,799 --> 00:22:42,160
like no, no, still yeating and he's still stand face.

523
00:22:42,519 --> 00:22:44,279
Speaker 1: And I also just think that could be a bad idea,

524
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,000
Like I just don't know Jay whoso is a heel

525
00:22:46,079 --> 00:22:46,480
right now?

526
00:22:46,559 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 3: It's like I don't know.

527
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 1: I just I could see that has like a six

528
00:22:49,759 --> 00:22:51,480
month run and then like, ah, you know what, just

529
00:22:51,839 --> 00:22:52,960
have them save Jimmy and.

530
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 3: Just just turn it around.

531
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: Right, So what do you do? What do you think's

532
00:22:56,519 --> 00:22:58,920
gonna happen with They're all the men's side. In the

533
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,039
next few months here.

534
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,319
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna go back to the well of

535
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,359
them and the New Day. I mean, they're kind of

536
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,000
scarce on that. I don't think you're gonna have the

537
00:23:09,279 --> 00:23:12,720
breakdown and split up because I don't see Jay Ussa

538
00:23:12,839 --> 00:23:15,759
making a good heel. He seems like the type that

539
00:23:15,759 --> 00:23:19,200
they would make him, kind of the whiny, crying, woe

540
00:23:19,279 --> 00:23:21,839
is Me type heel, and that's not gonna do well.

541
00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:23,920
And then they're gonna lose out on the yeats, the

542
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,079
T shirt sales and everything else. So it just makes

543
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,240
no sense at this point. So I think they're just

544
00:23:30,279 --> 00:23:33,920
gonna keep on cycling through. Your normal tag teams are

545
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,279
going to go back and forth with the war Raiders

546
00:23:36,319 --> 00:23:40,160
and with New Day, and that's just gonna be. They're

547
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,599
gonna be stuck in that cycle for a while unless

548
00:23:43,279 --> 00:23:45,559
w W is able to sign like a new, good,

549
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,200
prominent tag team that they want to push.

550
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:54,079
Speaker 3: God, yeah, what's the team in New Japan there? Supposedly? Yeah, yeah,

551
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,799
that's not good. But oh no, he's a not good.

552
00:23:57,839 --> 00:24:00,960
I'm like, well, they're not good. They're not good.

553
00:24:01,559 --> 00:24:04,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard that's kind of mix and whatnot. So yeah,

554
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,920
I agree with both you guys scenarios. And then suppose

555
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,279
what about the women. I think we're all in agreement

556
00:24:09,279 --> 00:24:12,880
that this is not to me if they were gonna

557
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,599
do Rio and Ea as the tag team winning the

558
00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:17,960
titles and run with that, and it was like the

559
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,920
Mania plans that would have been the build up is

560
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,200
them as a team going to Mania, and that's the

561
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,119
big moment. The fact that they already got the big

562
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,599
pop here the win means they're gonna lose it on

563
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,960
the way there. That to me was the only scenario. Hey,

564
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:29,799
we have nothing from them do.

565
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 4: I've seen people say where it's like if they win

566
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,400
it here, like this doesn't necessarily mean that they're like

567
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,720
defending the titles at me, Like, if they want it here,

568
00:24:40,759 --> 00:24:44,000
they could still very much be in singles matches or

569
00:24:44,039 --> 00:24:46,039
in a singles match against each other.

570
00:24:46,079 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, and even if they're tag team champions,

571
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,359
there's like we have Sean and Sina, we have Eddie

572
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,279
and Ray both times, both times where the people that

573
00:24:54,319 --> 00:24:56,319
were take team champs with each other first each other

574
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:56,720
wrestle me.

575
00:24:56,759 --> 00:24:58,799
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if there's any others.

576
00:24:58,799 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: I know those are the two see different stories, but

577
00:25:01,039 --> 00:25:03,720
like like even then, whether it was Rha versus EO

578
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,240
or them doing their own separate things, they could still

579
00:25:06,279 --> 00:25:09,039
just be Women's take Champs and then like even lose

580
00:25:09,039 --> 00:25:11,039
at the raw after Mania, right, like look what they

581
00:25:11,039 --> 00:25:12,240
did Becky and Lyra.

582
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 3: So yeahs are you still where is your genda?

583
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 4: Now? On?

584
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,559
Speaker 3: Uh Rihanna? Where's where's your I'm doing a temperature check.

585
00:25:19,599 --> 00:25:24,599
Speaker 1: You're on your percentage here if it's happening or not Mania.

586
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 4: I'm still on that it's happening.

587
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 3: I think, Okay, I think I think I'm right now.

588
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,799
Speaker 4: I honestly think the Manium match, like for Stephanie.

589
00:25:35,839 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 3: Is live for the title or not.

590
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,319
Speaker 4: I could see that, I think so, But I don't

591
00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:46,319
think it'd be a live winning the rumble I could see,

592
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,000
like I don't think, I mean it could be Women's rumble.

593
00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: That story all the time that she's always close, right,

594
00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:55,079
would live? That's always every year. They kind of dropped

595
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:55,759
that last year.

596
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have like no clue really, Like there's like

597
00:25:59,799 --> 00:26:02,000
I say, if I had to pick one, like like

598
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,359
you know, gut into my head, I would probably say Live,

599
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,240
just because I think that's the most like realistic one.

600
00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:11,119
But other ones I mean they could always do. I

601
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,160
don't know. I feel like I have like no predictions

602
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,119
for the woman's.

603
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was fully on the Rea bandwagon because I

604
00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:21,720
thought we're gonna Ree and Stephanie. I don't know if

605
00:26:21,759 --> 00:26:23,559
we are anymore. I think it's just because like the

606
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,240
things I've watched of stephan McKai, there's nothing wrong with

607
00:26:26,279 --> 00:26:28,839
her and the presentation it just heard.

608
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 4: It's like that. It's like Triple H is high on Stephanie,

609
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,480
but like the rest of the creative people aren't. It's

610
00:26:35,559 --> 00:26:37,279
like just weird.

611
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: She has a charisma, she has a good look, and

612
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,319
she's good in the ring. I think that's just I've

613
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,480
said this in the discord. It feels very much like

614
00:26:44,519 --> 00:26:46,799
the first time Page won the title, where it's like, Okay,

615
00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:48,279
we're gonna rush her. She can one to night one,

616
00:26:48,599 --> 00:26:50,400
and it was just challenge after challenger, but they kept

617
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,039
giving her more of like not the main tier people.

618
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,480
It reminds you of like when Guta at the World title,

619
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,279
where it's like, Okay, she's versusing Nikki Bella and Raquel.

620
00:26:58,319 --> 00:27:01,279
It's like she's not beating the like top tier women

621
00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:03,240
and obviously should beat EO right to get that, so

622
00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:05,319
it's fine, but like it just feels like they're almost

623
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,920
on purpose keeping her away from them. But that almost

624
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,960
makes it feel like it's like a very much secondary title,

625
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,160
like the same as the IC. So it's just I

626
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,319
don't know they need I hope after this raquel thing's done,

627
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,960
if they do plan on doing Stephanie and Riha, they

628
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,880
need to give Stephanie like some sort of meaty story

629
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,519
because I think they're just whether it's them or Gus

630
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:26,319
Triple Ah, just maybe just saying like oh man or

631
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,680
with Stephanie and Reed, which I agree that has that,

632
00:27:28,759 --> 00:27:29,279
but you need.

633
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,519
Speaker 3: A little bit more. I think that they just need

634
00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:32,319
Stephanie to like evolve a bit.

635
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,039
Speaker 1: So I wonder if they don't do Stephanie Live at Mania,

636
00:27:35,079 --> 00:27:36,960
if you could do that in the run up, and

637
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,519
maybe that could be actually something juicy and live could

638
00:27:39,559 --> 00:27:42,440
kind of give somewhat more of a story. But liv

639
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,920
could win. I'm still gun in my head, I'm still

640
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,200
picking Ria. I'm going the most obvious rumbles this year.

641
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,240
I'm going Rea en Roman. I think Roaming the big Dog.

642
00:27:49,519 --> 00:27:52,119
He's got it for sure. He's he's walking in at thirty,

643
00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:54,119
He's throwing a couple of people up hold him up

644
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,599
that one getting the pyrol and that's it, Like he's

645
00:27:56,599 --> 00:27:57,000
doing the.

646
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 3: Minimal work getting that win.

647
00:27:58,839 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, just I don't know so, but yeah, what

648
00:28:02,039 --> 00:28:04,000
do you think, Dave about the woman's situation right now?

649
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 2: So in my mind I am different from both of you.

650
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,599
I have EO winning the Rumble and going against Stephanie

651
00:28:11,759 --> 00:28:12,880
and taking that title back.

652
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 3: Really you think they'd run the rematch and have EO

653
00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:15,799
win it?

654
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 4: There?

655
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,039
Speaker 3: What's Ria doing a mania?

656
00:28:17,079 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 4: Then?

657
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 6: I don't know yet.

658
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: I haven't figured that out yet in my in my booking,

659
00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:26,000
but it's it's real, Like, you know, she doesn't have

660
00:28:26,079 --> 00:28:28,160
to be in a title match to still get a

661
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,920
massive pop, a massive entrance.

662
00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 6: Hell they might.

663
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 2: I hope they don't do this, Please God, if you're listening,

664
00:28:34,279 --> 00:28:36,519
do not do this. They they could put her in

665
00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:41,519
another tag team match with with Damien Priese in Oh god,

666
00:28:42,319 --> 00:28:45,400
you know they would, but just just for the entrances.

667
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,799
But you know, Riha doesn't have to be in a

668
00:28:47,839 --> 00:28:50,160
title match. Like I love her and she's a great

669
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,240
contender for that, but as like, she doesn't need that

670
00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:56,000
where I think they could use this as an opportunity

671
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,759
to run this back with Stephanie and EO.

672
00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:01,559
Speaker 1: Your pitch has my mind boggle because I agree that

673
00:29:01,599 --> 00:29:03,319
she doesn't need to be in the title match, but then.

674
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 3: I'd put her with EO in that situation. You know.

675
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,079
That's where it's just like or like we talk about before, like.

676
00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: Would it be Becky and her, But if Becky has aj,

677
00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:11,480
that's not gonna happen.

678
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know why.

679
00:29:13,519 --> 00:29:15,519
Speaker 1: There's just something about the thought of reo Ver's Jay

680
00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:18,359
Cargo that is like screams a two.

681
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,799
Speaker 3: Point five Matt. I don't know why.

682
00:29:20,359 --> 00:29:23,279
Speaker 1: There's there's some of me that that doesn't jive too well.

683
00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:25,319
I really don't know what they're gonna do with Jade

684
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,440
this season, because like you could give her like I

685
00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:32,640
feel like, like Alexa Charlotte, they might be in that

686
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,440
US title picture, and I could see them doing like

687
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,559
if they had to get the card. I don't think

688
00:29:36,599 --> 00:29:38,319
Julie is gonna get on the card, but if they were,

689
00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:41,480
like Julian and Charlotte, but like you could have Charlotte

690
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,079
tried to like kind of carried Jade to something bigger.

691
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,359
Speaker 3: I just don't know. I know they're hinting at Jade

692
00:29:47,359 --> 00:29:47,759
and Gordon.

693
00:29:47,799 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 4: I was gonna say that, like, I think for Jade

694
00:29:51,599 --> 00:29:55,000
it bes Charlotte because I feel like right now and

695
00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:57,759
you'd have Charlotte and obviously because I feel like you

696
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,720
have Charlotte at like her most liked right now, and

697
00:30:01,759 --> 00:30:05,359
I think Jade probably he was disliked, So that would

698
00:30:05,359 --> 00:30:07,880
be like the time to actually put the title on

699
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,839
Charlotte again and people would would actually cheer for it.

700
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: You could do that too, and then if it like

701
00:30:13,079 --> 00:30:15,200
after a couple of weeks, if people are already over it,

702
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,880
you could just literally have Jade win it back on

703
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,799
backlash or something like that, right like kind of what

704
00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:21,440
they do with her and Tiffany. I feel like with

705
00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:23,240
that women's one, I wonder if we're going to get

706
00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:25,880
a multi one though, because I think I don't see

707
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,160
Alexa Blisches going somewhere, and I wonder if you could

708
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:33,759
do like a Jade Charlotte Alexa and maybe Tiffany or

709
00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:39,160
Jordan Grace yeah there, because you could play at the

710
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,599
Alexa Charlotte like will they work together or is the

711
00:30:42,599 --> 00:30:44,519
title going to screw them over? And that way too,

712
00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:46,640
you could still give like if you didn't want to

713
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,319
pull the trigger on Charlotte. You just give Jade the

714
00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:50,680
win there because I think Jordan Grace is probably gonna

715
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,200
be like her first defense, even.

716
00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: Though I really don't want that.

717
00:30:53,839 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: I don't want Jordan to take another loss, and I

718
00:30:57,079 --> 00:30:59,319
just want her to go over and squash Julia, not

719
00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:01,640
squashed by I have a good match and win that

720
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,200
like that.

721
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 3: That's what I'm hoping is the destination for those two

722
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,000
because they need to get Jordan web.

723
00:31:06,759 --> 00:31:10,359
Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like she might challenge for

724
00:31:10,519 --> 00:31:14,799
like against Jade and like lose there and then go

725
00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:16,400
after the US title.

726
00:31:16,119 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 3: And win, which I hope.

727
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,799
Speaker 1: So you know whether that's like a that could be

728
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:26,079
a SmackDown WrestleMania matchup right right there. Liked Julia Jordan Grace.

729
00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:29,119
They're already supplexing each other in the snow and whatnot.

730
00:31:29,119 --> 00:31:31,000
And you know, Jordan Grace I think, is like done

731
00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:34,319
so much good work. So oh man, and then so

732
00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:35,960
we get to this is shure, we're talking about titles.

733
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,400
So this happened on Friday. We had the three stage

734
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,839
of Hell, we had the normal match, we had a

735
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,079
false cut anywhere, and then still cage matches. They pretty

736
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,519
much ran back to Stone cultriple ah one which I'm

737
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:48,200
a big I'm a big homer and I love that's

738
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:48,519
one of.

739
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 3: My fair attitude err matches. If you guys haven't seen it,

740
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:51,359
watch that.

741
00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: So I ran that back and somehow, finally, after all

742
00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:58,960
these defenses, all these tries, Drew McIntyre is champ once

743
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,720
again for the first time in front of fans. Is

744
00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:02,839
the w W champ Obviously won the world title for

745
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,960
like two minutes with the W Champ and still still.

746
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:06,559
Speaker 3: Top tier one.

747
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: They did it by having Jacob to come back and

748
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,720
confront your McIntyre, and then they made Cody Roads look

749
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:15,359
like a complete geek who just decided to fight Jacob

750
00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:18,119
while his title was on the line, and that's how

751
00:32:18,119 --> 00:32:21,000
he won. And yeah, Dave, what do you think about

752
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,319
because also we've heard the rumors and even lots of

753
00:32:23,319 --> 00:32:26,079
Scoopers still saying, hey, like Cody Roman is still the

754
00:32:26,119 --> 00:32:27,359
plan for Mania as right now?

755
00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:30,559
Speaker 3: Obviously things changed all the time, but how does this change? Like,

756
00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:31,400
what does this change for you?

757
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: Do you think there is a is this a kurd

758
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,599
angle edge situation where Drew gets to run with it

759
00:32:35,599 --> 00:32:37,920
for a couple months and right before Mania gone?

760
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: Do you think it's there's some switch up. Do you

761
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,319
think that doesn't happen? What do you think and how

762
00:32:41,319 --> 00:32:43,000
do you feel about Drew winning the title as well.

763
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: I'm happy with Drew winning it in front of people

764
00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:49,000
and having a chance to tour the European countries with

765
00:32:49,079 --> 00:32:51,319
it for a bit. I do think he loses it

766
00:32:51,359 --> 00:32:55,319
probably at elimination Chamber and then that sets you up

767
00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:59,279
for Cody Roman again. But at least, yeah, if he

768
00:32:59,319 --> 00:33:01,079
gets to run with it for a little bit and

769
00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:05,640
then you know, we get they'll probably be a rematch

770
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,039
at Roll Rumble.

771
00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 6: Let him win there again.

772
00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:13,039
Speaker 1: Like I said, I want of Cody's Yeah, I man,

773
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,400
there's so I was so excited for this few and

774
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,000
they've just done it so many times.

775
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: At Least get us the triple threat with him, Randy

776
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,480
and Cody, you know, yeah.

777
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,559
Speaker 2: Please, But I at least want him to run with

778
00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:26,240
it until elimination Chamber. He can lose then and then

779
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,640
that sets up everything else for a WrestleMania season. But yeah,

780
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,880
I have no problems with him winning right now and

781
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,200
just having him and plus he needed like the big

782
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,599
win because if you look at it, like he has

783
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,359
these blood feuds with people and then he ends up

784
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:47,720
getting just absolutely screwed in the end, Like so with

785
00:33:47,839 --> 00:33:50,240
the CM punk thing, like he loses in Hell in

786
00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:53,079
a Cell. You know, he's been losing to Cody left

787
00:33:53,119 --> 00:33:55,039
and right, Like he.

788
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:56,759
Speaker 1: Lost a Jay us So a couple of months ago,

789
00:33:56,839 --> 00:33:59,880
and like when he was the Bloodline Hunter, you know, yeah,

790
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:01,720
but that was like a full year. I guess I

791
00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:03,559
was like a year ago. It feels like that. But yeah,

792
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,920
still like even in that, he couldn't get that story.

793
00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: So just just every time like he's getting close and

794
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,480
he's there, you know, he he had the WrestleMania getting

795
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,480
cashed in on just like all these sucking moments for him.

796
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,159
Speaker 6: So good on him for forgetting a moment.

797
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 3: M A S. Bubs. What do you think about Drew

798
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,000
in the future here?

799
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, well, like I said, I don't know, I

800
00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:32,599
feel like definitely this past week I had it like

801
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:37,000
Drew's definitely gonna win, but it was still cool to

802
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,880
see him. Actually actually, when you know, plants could have changed,

803
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,320
like supposedly, like the finish for this match was only

804
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,039
decided like a few hours before it actually happened.

805
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 3: True, must have been sweating, man, he must have been like, oh,

806
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,360
they're not gonna give it to me. I can just

807
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:53,800
feel it.

808
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,119
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm definitely interested in where they go. Obviously,

809
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,480
changing the main WA title like before Mania is like

810
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,320
pretty rare like in recent times, I'd say, and uh,

811
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,280
I'm interested in how long or short his run is

812
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,480
gonna be because so far he's definitely gonna retain at

813
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:21,079
the Rumble. I feel like then the next pl he

814
00:35:21,159 --> 00:35:25,000
would already be elimination Chamber if it were. If it

815
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,039
were up to me, if he has to lose the

816
00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:30,599
title at the Chamber, I would do it like in

817
00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:32,000
the actual match.

818
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I got double teamed.

819
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, That's how I would do if he has to

820
00:35:41,199 --> 00:35:42,320
to lose it there.

821
00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:46,519
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess Chamber the City one Chicago.

822
00:35:47,559 --> 00:35:50,199
Speaker 4: That's why I think I feel like Punk would probably

823
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,440
maine over the If you he's the World Evyweight champion,

824
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,000
he might maine over the actual chamber match because Ria

825
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,960
in Australia may invented over the.

826
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,599
Speaker 1: The yeah, which he could still be doing a title

827
00:36:02,599 --> 00:36:06,119
defense too, right, Yeah, And I think that probably works

828
00:36:06,159 --> 00:36:08,679
better than like because in my opinion, I agree, I

829
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:13,039
think the I think the route we're going is Roman's

830
00:36:13,079 --> 00:36:16,440
winning the Rumble and Cody's getting that title back. And

831
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,039
I think because at first I was like, oh, are

832
00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:19,280
they really gonna change his back?

833
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 3: But I thought the history I thought about Edge. I

834
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:21,559
thought Angle.

835
00:36:21,559 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, right, there's such a history of just like oh,

836
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,719
last month, here's the WrestleMania match.

837
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,119
Speaker 3: Here you go. I say, oh, okay, they've done this before.

838
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,559
Speaker 4: I just thought they I mean even like the like

839
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,199
the Rock and Austin, Like when Austin wins the Rumble

840
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,840
of Rock then wins Angle.

841
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,199
Speaker 3: What I was talking about, Yeah, because Angle held it

842
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,400
from Do you Want the Virus Series day? But I think, right,

843
00:36:43,679 --> 00:36:44,400
Angle in two.

844
00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: And one, Yeah, and then like he just lost it

845
00:36:46,599 --> 00:36:49,400
like three weeks before they're like, yeah, we're so we're Angle,

846
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,559
You've been working on and then he lost to or no, he.

847
00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:52,639
Speaker 3: Did beat Ben Watt Wrestleming.

848
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,079
Speaker 1: But yes, there is a history of them doing that

849
00:36:55,159 --> 00:36:57,599
to make it more exciting. I just thought, I guess

850
00:36:57,599 --> 00:36:59,199
in my mind, I thought, Okay, if it's gonna be

851
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,400
Cody Roman for the time, they'd want Cody have like

852
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:02,840
a longer run.

853
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 3: And then I heard.

854
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: The idea of oh what it's non title, And I

855
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,719
actually still don't mind that I've seen like a boo

856
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,159
and other people push back like it's definitely not non title,

857
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,400
but like I wouldn't mind just Cody Roman's like, this

858
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,119
is more about the title. This isn't about the title,

859
00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:17,880
isn't about the companies, Like we just don't like each

860
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:18,880
other and we're gonna.

861
00:37:18,639 --> 00:37:19,639
Speaker 3: See who's the better man.

862
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: And I also thought, for some reason, Cody be like

863
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,719
more fun to lose that way, because I feel like

864
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,960
with the title with Cody' say, well, I need to

865
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,719
be you know, I need to have that over roaming

866
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,039
because that's their big relationship thing. But uh, I don't know,

867
00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:34,079
so I'm just gonna assume that's still for the title.

868
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:36,559
I'm still also gonna assume that anything can change. I

869
00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:38,519
know there was a report by Bonnie Slam today like, oh,

870
00:37:38,599 --> 00:37:41,360
all the matches are penciled in, But again, around this

871
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,400
time last year, we saw that fucking board and those

872
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,880
matches were penciled in, like Jaye versus Charlotte, and.

873
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,159
Speaker 4: Uh it was just probably Slam is like I get

874
00:37:51,159 --> 00:37:53,519
body Slam like a be tier.

875
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 3: There be tis plus, yes, they get a lot of.

876
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 4: Stuff right, but then there's definitely stuff that they get

877
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,119
wrong and then don't engine get but they talk about it.

878
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,079
Speaker 1: Like my perfect scenario would be, they like, I don't

879
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:08,000
know why they still can't do it, especially with Braun.

880
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,440
We talked about weeks when it did happen. I'm gonna

881
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,400
be so fucking annoyed if Braun just beats against the

882
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:18,239
rumber Mania, I just yeah, yeah, the spear up. But

883
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,119
like in my perfect world will be like Seth versus Braun,

884
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,239
Punk and Cody and Roman and Drew.

885
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 3: I don't think that's happening. I don't think Roman like

886
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:27,559
it sounds bad.

887
00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: I don't think Roman views Drew as like a WrestleMania

888
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,239
main event matchup guy. Like as much as he might

889
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,480
not like Cody, I think he's still like, well, yeah we.

890
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:39,639
Speaker 4: Can definitely last year. Yeah, I'll put into Seth versus Yeah.

891
00:38:39,679 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: So that's the thing where it's just it's intricing what's

892
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:44,800
gonna happen. I think that's gonna happen.

893
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 3: I think with it being Chicago, because to me, Cody

894
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,119
winning that belt back from Drew could get some booze

895
00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:53,719
in Chicago. But if he's not last, it's not as bad.

896
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,119
Speaker 1: Like you can even put that middle of the car

897
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,360
to get the ladies open up and then Punk going

898
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:57,880
on last.

899
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: So yeah, we'll see. I'm happy for Drew just to

900
00:39:00,039 --> 00:39:01,599
finally get it.

901
00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:03,679
Speaker 1: Does it feel like a little late, like people have

902
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,360
used a here damn habit thing?

903
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, it does.

904
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,519
Speaker 1: It feels like this should have even rest of Palooza

905
00:39:09,639 --> 00:39:11,960
felt like it was late and it didn't happen. Then

906
00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:14,000
I know they pitched it so good on them, and

907
00:39:14,039 --> 00:39:15,480
I think it should have been. I think it could

908
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,360
have given Drew a little bit longer run, made it

909
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,159
more unpredictable. But the match itself was really good. I

910
00:39:20,159 --> 00:39:22,000
think us in the desk cord it was their best

911
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,760
one they've had, and I wish they spam this match more.

912
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,400
I love three stages of hell. Is it predictable that

913
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,880
they're gonna go one on one? Sure, but like I

914
00:39:31,039 --> 00:39:32,960
like the scenario. It's always okay who wins.

915
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 4: Which is especially if like the third step is like

916
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,960
something big, like the cage is there, like they're not

917
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:39,960
not gonna use.

918
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,559
Speaker 1: It, or like when my first strip sewn, Michael's held.

919
00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:45,920
So the last stage was a TLC match, It's like,

920
00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:48,280
what's Trivit's do it in a TLC match, But like

921
00:39:48,599 --> 00:39:50,559
he won the match like that's I like the.

922
00:39:50,559 --> 00:39:54,639
Speaker 4: Three the wildest one is like the Sina Ryevac one

923
00:39:54,679 --> 00:39:57,480
because the three steps are like it's something wild. It's

924
00:39:57,519 --> 00:40:00,599
like lumber jack ambulazed something like that.

925
00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 3: I forgot who's doing a lumberjack in a three stages of.

926
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 4: Hell like it? Man, you know, flying off the flying

927
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,679
off the post ontil like one hundred people on the outside.

928
00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had a lumberjack match, a tables match, and

929
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,920
it ended with an ambulance match. I mean, like this

930
00:40:19,199 --> 00:40:22,079
is the who starts out, you know what's gonna be

931
00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:23,920
the feud end or a lumberjack match.

932
00:40:24,159 --> 00:40:26,679
Speaker 1: That's because I fucking knew Ryback couldn't work three Stages

933
00:40:26,679 --> 00:40:28,280
of Hell, so like they can't even do a normal

934
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,960
match for him because like, oh, gimmick match, gimmick back,

935
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,760
give it. But I would I'd be fine if they

936
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,840
did more three stage hell. And the first match wasn't

937
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,800
even a normal wrestling match, Like would I recommend a lumberjack, No,

938
00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:41,119
but anything else, Like I I've loved that match, and

939
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,280
with like a four point twenty five I would have

940
00:40:44,559 --> 00:40:46,199
been at four point five. I did not like the

941
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,760
Jacob finish. I get the idea of it. I just

942
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:51,239
I just wish that he laid Cody out instead of

943
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,760
Cody literally trade blows with him while he's in the

944
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,679
middle of w Champions And even though why is Cody

945
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,760
so mad? Why He's like, hey, buddy, why are you

946
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,400
in my Like I don't know, just.

947
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 2: Like geat cage and deal that after, you know, like, yeah,

948
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,760
four out of the seven U three Station Hell have

949
00:41:08,039 --> 00:41:11,800
ended in a still cage. Yeah most two four of

950
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,599
them have had a street fight as the middle, and

951
00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:17,719
all but two of them have started off with the

952
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:18,519
standard match.

953
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 3: Okay, and even Sewan started.

954
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 2: With the street fight and had the steel cage second

955
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:27,599
and ended with the ladder.

956
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: I got to go back there as I apologist for

957
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,920
the Shawn Trabla shoes. I go back that sounds like

958
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,480
a that sounds like trays enjoying that. I don't care

959
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,199
listen to this Shawn Michael's Triple H oh four Hell

960
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:37,679
in the cell.

961
00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:40,599
Speaker 3: Fucking love that match. I know people dogs on that

962
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,480
match all the time. I love when they're just like,

963
00:41:42,519 --> 00:41:44,280
we're gonna go out there and take it out an

964
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,519
hour fifteen. That's why Triple H likes Roman. You know,

965
00:41:46,599 --> 00:41:48,239
He's like, oh, I get it. I used to do

966
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:48,880
the same thing.

967
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,119
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, and the Gargano versus coal like

968
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,440
three stages of how which isn't really called out. Their

969
00:41:55,519 --> 00:41:57,760
last one was a barbed wire steel cage.

970
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,639
Speaker 1: Geez, let's do this once a year or once every

971
00:42:01,679 --> 00:42:03,639
two years. Let's get let's get wild on these. So

972
00:42:05,039 --> 00:42:06,639
but yeah, so yeah, we think, because what is it

973
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,639
right now? The pairings, I know, we're super weird. It's

974
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,679
like Samy and Ila and then I don't know who

975
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,760
did this one. Matt Cardona versus Trick. Now, listen, I

976
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,760
think that has approved a lot. That just feels like that.

977
00:42:19,199 --> 00:42:21,920
I feel like they are early on, like we're gonna

978
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,960
test Trick and say, like we're putting a Phoenix, put

979
00:42:24,039 --> 00:42:25,920
him a Cardona, We're gonna put a Randy so Randy

980
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,960
can tell some good He's like, maybe that's the idea,

981
00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:28,679
but I just like that.

982
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:29,039
Speaker 3: Is a.

983
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 4: He's losing right away. Man.

984
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it.

985
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,199
Speaker 1: I was like, he's at least gonna make it to

986
00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:38,960
the four right, And I saw the graphic was him

987
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,559
and Trick. I'm like, oh, well, I guess Matt's losing that.

988
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,199
It's like, can't let me in the four way like yikes,

989
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:47,880
and then who else? It's Prieston who.

990
00:42:49,679 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 4: I actually did much like Gunther and Solo this.

991
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:53,599
Speaker 3: It should be good.

992
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:54,039
Speaker 4: Yeah.

993
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,119
Speaker 3: I just laugh at Solo just what they're doing in

994
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,000
that days and I'm missing the other one too. What's

995
00:42:58,039 --> 00:42:58,480
the other one?

996
00:42:58,679 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 4: Rand?

997
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,079
Speaker 3: Oh god, my god?

998
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,519
Speaker 1: What are we doing with Miz here in the main time?

999
00:43:04,639 --> 00:43:07,639
Like why aren't they just streamlined him and Mellow just

1000
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,159
do a one month us feud?

1001
00:43:09,199 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 3: You know they had that story. They just kind of

1002
00:43:11,039 --> 00:43:11,400
dropped it.

1003
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,159
Speaker 1: Yikes, Like even though you couldn't have Cardona beat the

1004
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,719
Miz and have it like, well no, because we know

1005
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:18,320
you can't.

1006
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 3: As much as I love that, I guess qualifying match.

1007
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,039
Speaker 1: Like we will talk about now, like the NXT calls

1008
00:43:27,079 --> 00:43:29,559
and the signs went up, but like Cardona very happy

1009
00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:31,639
got signed. He's there his wife. I hope it goes

1010
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,840
well for him. I still think they're gonna always look

1011
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,400
at him as like a very mid card guy. And

1012
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:37,840
the fact that he is just gonna lose the Trick

1013
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,840
right away. I think the shows that. But it makes

1014
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,599
sense right like that that four of Ila, Randy, Sammy

1015
00:43:44,679 --> 00:43:47,039
and Trick like I can't in good conscience, say you

1016
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:50,079
could put Cardona over any of them, right.

1017
00:43:50,159 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 3: Like it's it's tough, you know, it's tough.

1018
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: So uh but yeah, I think we're all in agreement

1019
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:59,559
that we think Sammy is gonna happen, right Sammy, Yeah, yeah, challenges.

1020
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:03,639
Speaker 4: I could even see him, Like, I don't think he'd

1021
00:44:03,679 --> 00:44:06,199
win the Rumble, but like if he lost to Drew

1022
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,920
and was also in the Rumble as like, oh this

1023
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:11,880
is my this is his last chance to win.

1024
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,519
Speaker 3: Would he win it though? Because they're in Rion?

1025
00:44:15,079 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think so.

1026
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 3: Right now, that's what I think.

1027
00:44:19,519 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, hunter Iggy asked us if what if a

1028
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,400
for a match of Drew versus Oba versus Jacob versus

1029
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,079
Cody won r P to Cody because he's taken a

1030
00:44:28,119 --> 00:44:28,360
lot of.

1031
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,679
Speaker 3: Pumps in that. Oh man, I'd be down for it.

1032
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:36,119
Speaker 1: I I really wish that the the Cody Roman thing

1033
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,360
was non title I pitched in the discord. I would

1034
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,360
love it if you just had Oba won the fucking

1035
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,559
Rumble and it's Oba versus Drew Mania. They already set

1036
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:45,159
that up a little bit, so I don't think you'd

1037
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:49,320
get that four way from now or until Mania. But uh, Yeah,

1038
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,079
Oba is getting called up and he's supposed to be raw.

1039
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,880
I said that tune the discord just fe like that's

1040
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,599
kind of counterproductor And.

1041
00:44:55,639 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 4: I have to see if that was a body slammer

1042
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,280
on because he and Flightful talked about the the j

1043
00:45:02,519 --> 00:45:07,079
C and Blake right like that's it's been discussed, but

1044
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,800
like not happening like right away, not like the like

1045
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,000
Jordan or stuff like that.

1046
00:45:12,519 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 3: To me, you can't have Oba and Bron the same

1047
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,039
brand right now. That should be like seeing them rock.

1048
00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 1: They should be kept away from each other because it's

1049
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,320
gonna be similar builds, right, They're gonna be monsters that

1050
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,599
go through people and eventually get that title.

1051
00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 3: And I would hope going like a good run. So

1052
00:45:24,679 --> 00:45:26,880
I feel like Obon raw I guess unless they want

1053
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:27,840
to run, Oba's.

1054
00:45:27,559 --> 00:45:30,679
Speaker 1: A baby's even too, Like do you want Oba and

1055
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,960
Javon to like bump back into each other right now?

1056
00:45:33,039 --> 00:45:35,440
Like I feel like Obon SmackDown is the way to

1057
00:45:35,519 --> 00:45:37,239
go have him go through some people.

1058
00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 3: I don't know, because I think Fightful did. Maybe I'm wrong.

1059
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,199
Speaker 1: I can't someone I thought someone said they had big

1060
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,760
plant mania plans for Oba.

1061
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 3: I thought that was Fightful but that was like, like.

1062
00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:50,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was fightful, and sn Ross Sap

1063
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,039
like himself said that like he vacated the title because yeah,

1064
00:45:55,039 --> 00:45:57,119
they have big plans for for him.

1065
00:45:57,559 --> 00:45:59,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I just like, so if Oba, let's say

1066
00:45:59,639 --> 00:46:02,119
they do just do Cody and Roman title, what is

1067
00:46:02,199 --> 00:46:04,559
the big plans for OBD You guys gotta bey pitches

1068
00:46:04,599 --> 00:46:05,719
for men.

1069
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 4: Just it's Brock or something like that's doing like Seth

1070
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,760
or Punk. Then who is Brock facing? And I don't

1071
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,519
think he's fighting Goonther until the last.

1072
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,639
Speaker 3: Match till Summer Slam. Okay, it's a.

1073
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,559
Speaker 4: Big match for Ova where he can't have lost anything

1074
00:46:22,679 --> 00:46:25,800
before going into it. Says like that's the Bronco.

1075
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,119
Speaker 3: Does he go over and Brock too?

1076
00:46:28,519 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 4: I feel like if he If he did, then the

1077
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:34,320
last story for Brock would be like, oh, he lost

1078
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,280
the radio, like he has to win his last match

1079
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:38,119
against goon the.

1080
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,199
Speaker 3: Gonna run with that ship look to that.

1081
00:46:43,519 --> 00:46:46,199
Speaker 4: I would mean if it meant like he lost the

1082
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,559
O'd be fine of them doing that story.

1083
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: So I'm fine with broccol every put him in there

1084
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,559
with fucking Otis and have Brock job out.

1085
00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:56,559
Speaker 3: I don't need to Brock being anybody, but okay.

1086
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 2: You know how they're gonna do it. If if Oba

1087
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,480
beats Brock, then they're gonna spend the next three weeks

1088
00:47:02,639 --> 00:47:06,599
with Brock absolutely destroying people left and right for like

1089
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,239
bringing a Sina back that they're gonna You're just gonna

1090
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,559
see him just running rampage, is angry on a rampage

1091
00:47:13,639 --> 00:47:15,559
Brock to prove that he's steal the beasts.

1092
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he'll beat some guy at backlash or like

1093
00:47:19,559 --> 00:47:20,199
before summer.

1094
00:47:20,599 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 4: I feel like if they're doing Brock and they're definitely

1095
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,719
gonna do the OVA hits, the like the f ten

1096
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,199
on him where he like fully throws them out.

1097
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see Brock take that bump.

1098
00:47:32,599 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: I agree with you, but I will it's something I

1099
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,320
won't believe that I see because that's something where we're like, oh,

1100
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,239
the finish for Drew and Cody was hours before. It's

1101
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,159
as much as I love the stuff he's done, I

1102
00:47:44,199 --> 00:47:46,760
can dislike as well too. Paul Hayman being back there

1103
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,840
always fucking scares me, and I is Paul gonna get

1104
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,719
and other Paul's hena be like, well does need to win?

1105
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,920
Yet you know, like that's like just worry and like,

1106
00:47:56,079 --> 00:47:58,039
I will not believe Oba was gonna win until the

1107
00:47:58,119 --> 00:48:00,280
three count happens, because I could see them being like, well,

1108
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,880
we want to keep them strong for Summer Slam or

1109
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,599
his last match of GOOT or so we don't want

1110
00:48:04,599 --> 00:48:06,280
to lose. Like I think what they would do is

1111
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,239
Oba louse. He gets like really close, and but somehow

1112
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,119
Bron just hits like a last minute F five and

1113
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:11,639
gets them.

1114
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 3: Like I I I would prefer yeah, Oba Brock. I

1115
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,840
think that is big. You can build that up Oba

1116
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,039
again the wind. That's good.

1117
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: I just I worry that Paul Hayman will have other

1118
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,000
ideas unless he really likes Oba, because if he likes

1119
00:48:24,039 --> 00:48:26,239
a guy, then he'll have his guys put over those

1120
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,159
other guys, right.

1121
00:48:27,159 --> 00:48:30,599
Speaker 4: So I don't think he's really hurt anything in particular.

1122
00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:33,079
But I cause sometimes you get reports of like, oh,

1123
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,679
Paul Hayman loves Austin theory or whatever, but I don't

1124
00:48:36,679 --> 00:48:39,880
think I've heard anything specifically regarding.

1125
00:48:40,639 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 3: Loves Austin theory. I can't. My god, God, I I

1126
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,000
guess I forgot. We got that revealed some sweeping back.

1127
00:48:46,039 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 4: And you know last time when his first the singles

1128
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:50,800
that he just like.

1129
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 3: To me this last time, this is this is this

1130
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,840
is it and something. It's not creative. But what about you, dude,

1131
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,000
do you agree with Brock.

1132
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,519
Speaker 1: Or you got someone else for Oba to come wrestleman.

1133
00:49:00,599 --> 00:49:03,159
If he's got big plans Andre Giant.

1134
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 6: Battle Royal, he just clears house on a random SmackDown

1135
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:09,400
and that that's it.

1136
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,639
Speaker 3: Standing there, they make the shortest Andre battery ever. Five minutes.

1137
00:49:13,679 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: He just eliminates everybody and put a bunch of geeks

1138
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,119
and jobbers in there, like put it in your Austin theories,

1139
00:49:18,159 --> 00:49:20,360
putting kit Willson just have oh but just yeah, five

1140
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:21,920
minutes straight, win the Battle Royal.

1141
00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 3: That's it.

1142
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 6: And then he comes down.

1143
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 4: Yes, if he didn't do it lastly and actually had

1144
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,039
a match on me like this literalud be like he

1145
00:49:32,199 --> 00:49:35,559
has the match with like Brock announced that Mania, he's

1146
00:49:35,639 --> 00:49:38,280
not announced for the Battle Royal. He comes out for

1147
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,079
the Battle Royal, throws out everyone who wins it, and

1148
00:49:41,199 --> 00:49:42,960
then still has the match the next day.

1149
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:44,519
Speaker 3: That see you.

1150
00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:46,199
Speaker 1: But if that happens and I'm where he's losing a

1151
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:47,840
bron because Paul's like, well what if we give him this?

1152
00:49:48,199 --> 00:49:51,320
And then and then he takes that five to Brock

1153
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:52,840
and then he's losing it.

1154
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 2: So it's the consolation prize because he knows he's going

1155
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,840
to lose the bron Yeah, but no, Rock would be

1156
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,400
the match for me. I would I would want to

1157
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,079
see them, and especially if Brock is interested in it,

1158
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,880
because you know, there's two versions of a Brock match,

1159
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,000
just the Brock actually gives a damn versus he doesn't.

1160
00:50:10,199 --> 00:50:12,480
And if he actually cares, Oh man, that's gonna be

1161
00:50:12,519 --> 00:50:13,199
a good match.

1162
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. Give him a big guy like like, oh, I

1163
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,039
feel like there's just like, look at this guy, like

1164
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,320
he likes the what's his name when.

1165
00:50:23,159 --> 00:50:26,639
Speaker 3: He's like, oh, big boy, but he didn't like bron Stroman.

1166
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:27,599
So that's what you never know.

1167
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:32,039
Speaker 1: Just because you're big doesn't mean Brock right down a

1168
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,280
legit shoot punch Braun in the middle of that.

1169
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:37,079
Speaker 3: So like that's where it's like it's Oma gonna do

1170
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,280
one wrong move and like that's it. You dropped me

1171
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,639
on my head, Like yeah, I don't know so, but yeah,

1172
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,280
we'll see what happens with Oba. So he got called up.

1173
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:51,360
We got Javon and called up with feel like I'm

1174
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:51,840
just trying.

1175
00:50:51,639 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 4: To think what I feel like what his next. I

1176
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,440
think he's gonna beat Dom for the Icy title.

1177
00:50:57,039 --> 00:50:58,559
Speaker 3: Really not Jericho, eh.

1178
00:51:00,199 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 6: On to Jericho?

1179
00:51:01,199 --> 00:51:07,159
Speaker 3: Why too? Why Javon? Yeah, sir, you remind me of

1180
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,920
me the lions, Like he's teaching the lion salt. We

1181
00:51:10,039 --> 00:51:13,760
get all these backstage vignettes and then uh, with a.

1182
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,159
Speaker 4: Lion salt, he would like clear the other side of

1183
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:16,519
the ring.

1184
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 3: He to two in a row. He didn't do like

1185
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,079
the double lion salt. So do you think that would

1186
00:51:21,079 --> 00:51:24,039
be before or at Mania Javon and Dom?

1187
00:51:24,119 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 4: I feel like that could be a mania man.

1188
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,679
Speaker 1: I would love that if they could give Javon that

1189
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,360
him and Dom and then and luckily Javon's like like,

1190
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:33,000
well nothing has a.

1191
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 3: Different type of Christmas.

1192
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: The crowd won't turn him because like the rest made,

1193
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,280
the crowd is gonna always like you got to.

1194
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 4: Put the the JD out with there with with Dom

1195
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,800
to have like to do the spot like you know

1196
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,960
he's gonna throw down outside the ring, you know JD

1197
00:51:47,159 --> 00:51:49,320
and a bunch of people out there hugging Dom. He

1198
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,199
does the dive on all them.

1199
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:56,119
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, would craze for Dom last year.

1200
00:51:56,159 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: So that's where you gotta be cute you don't want

1201
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,039
that scenario where Javon's winning the title, he's getting booed

1202
00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:03,119
at the building, and that to me would be like, oh,

1203
00:52:03,159 --> 00:52:04,599
now you're coming from the like so yeah, you have

1204
00:52:04,679 --> 00:52:06,960
to put the right pairing there.

1205
00:52:07,079 --> 00:52:09,639
Speaker 3: But yeah, I would like that. I hope that happens.

1206
00:52:09,679 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: I also worry Jivon could just get thrown in a

1207
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,559
Battle Royal if they do like Dominic and Jericho.

1208
00:52:14,599 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 3: I mean, like I do think that is a heavy possible.

1209
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,960
I know we've joked about for months, but like Jericho's

1210
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,239
not there. He wasn't the raw. There's ish there.

1211
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,199
Speaker 1: It's like if he's gonna be the rumble because it

1212
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,079
sounds almost like he's a green two w.

1213
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:31,039
Speaker 4: CO rumors the TNN, like there's the TNA rumors are

1214
00:52:31,159 --> 00:52:34,920
actually building from, Like like I listened to one DNA

1215
00:52:35,079 --> 00:52:38,519
related podcast who like actually knows like people in and

1216
00:52:38,639 --> 00:52:41,760
he said he hadn't specifically hurt anything, but like when

1217
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,519
there's rumors like that, like about TNA, like there's a

1218
00:52:44,639 --> 00:52:47,480
chance that like he's on this debut show.

1219
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,199
Speaker 3: Oh god, that's not that.

1220
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,039
Speaker 4: It's like he'd be like.

1221
00:52:54,639 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I still think in that case, then

1222
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,960
to me, if I was a business person. I'd still

1223
00:53:00,119 --> 00:53:04,199
Jericho return on WTV and then announce he'll be on

1224
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,400
the special like they did with aj Right, when is

1225
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:08,239
that TEENA thing?

1226
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 3: Is it in February? Is this week the Yeah?

1227
00:53:11,639 --> 00:53:14,599
Speaker 1: Oh wow, So I guess that wouldn't happen unless Jericho's

1228
00:53:14,599 --> 00:53:19,239
on tomorrow. Oh boy, Okay, So I'm fifty to fifty

1229
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:20,119
on Jericho being on the.

1230
00:53:20,159 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 5: Debut because it's just like, yeah, I guess either, yeah

1231
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,400
he does, but he does the reverse of a w

1232
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,320
like what they did with Callous and with Omega.

1233
00:53:31,559 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 2: He comes out, he hits somebody with the codebreaker. Then

1234
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:35,400
he says, see you one raw.

1235
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 4: Oh.

1236
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: He takes off his mask, and what what Luchador does

1237
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,280
ten A have right now? That he could dress up

1238
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:44,760
as you get anybody with a mask right.

1239
00:53:44,679 --> 00:53:51,519
Speaker 4: Now, not really anything or like a classic TA mask like.

1240
00:53:51,599 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 3: It was suicide suicide, Oh suicides? Here, my god, I'm looking.

1241
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,840
I don't see any masks fellows yet.

1242
00:54:01,559 --> 00:54:05,039
Speaker 4: Lies he's dressed like, uh, what's like Carlos Silva, He's

1243
00:54:05,039 --> 00:54:06,840
got the the TNA cav on.

1244
00:54:08,119 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: Oh god, he could dress on. Doesn't Leon Slater have

1245
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,079
a mass gimmick? When he makes his entrance, right, does

1246
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,360
he could do that? Put Leon Slater over. Okay, so

1247
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,719
there's the hometown Man. Apparently if people don't know who

1248
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,519
this is, because I had no idea who this was,

1249
00:54:23,039 --> 00:54:26,239
this is who Jericho could dress up as for the interference.

1250
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,199
Speaker 3: He dress up as the hometown Man.

1251
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, the hometown Man. His gimmick is that every every

1252
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,079
time he wrestles a match, he has the jersey of

1253
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,960
whatever town there is, so it's babyface.

1254
00:54:37,199 --> 00:54:39,119
Speaker 1: He'll see it though, because he'll see it. Would wear

1255
00:54:39,599 --> 00:54:42,840
the Rivals. In three he would wear the Rivals jerseys.

1256
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,800
So if he was like in Chicago, we wear like

1257
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,039
the Packers jersey.

1258
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 3: Or something like that.

1259
00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:50,159
Speaker 4: That's the nothing with hometown Man too, is like you

1260
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,239
think he'd be a jobber, but like he just randomly

1261
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:54,719
like beats important people.

1262
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,639
Speaker 3: Okay, Like like that's holy mass. Wrests are on teenage

1263
00:54:58,960 --> 00:54:59,360
so that's I.

1264
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,639
Speaker 4: Could actually see that because they for some reason just

1265
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,599
love the hometown Man, like he's on these shows so often.

1266
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,360
That would be like that'd be the.

1267
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:11,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, Jerico's got the tattooed arms, so I mean he

1268
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:12,599
can pull it off.

1269
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,639
Speaker 3: There you go that we'll look out for that. That's

1270
00:55:15,679 --> 00:55:19,760
a scoop right there. I told you, what about you, dude,

1271
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,800
what do you see uh javon new next few months here?

1272
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,400
I think you'll have a good Rumble showing too. I

1273
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,480
bet they'll give him something like a good twenty minute

1274
00:55:25,519 --> 00:55:26,119
run or something.

1275
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's gonna be putting, uh putting the

1276
00:55:30,039 --> 00:55:37,039
boots to Matt Cardona in the mizz running ragged over

1277
00:55:37,079 --> 00:55:38,840
that mid card and then yeah, I think he's gonna

1278
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,800
have a great showing at the Rumble. Like I would

1279
00:55:42,039 --> 00:55:46,039
love to see him just be the new version of

1280
00:55:46,159 --> 00:55:49,599
KOFE where he's just doing the spots and having those

1281
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,320
moments and you.

1282
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 3: Know, get them to let him get to like final

1283
00:55:53,079 --> 00:55:55,400
eight or final six, you know, like maybe not final four.

1284
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,679
They might think that's too soon, but like it's always

1285
00:55:57,679 --> 00:55:59,440
good when they like led a rookie. Like I love

1286
00:55:59,519 --> 00:56:03,119
when they had uh Roxanne get her run last year, right,

1287
00:56:03,199 --> 00:56:04,920
Like that was good. I didn't agree with her being

1288
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,760
in the final two because everyone just knew, okay, Shark's

1289
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:08,199
throwing her over.

1290
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: There's no chance rocks Anne, But like, like the run

1291
00:56:10,519 --> 00:56:12,000
they gave her was really good. So I love if

1292
00:56:12,039 --> 00:56:14,639
Jayvon could do that, like final six to three you

1293
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:19,400
know somewhere in there. So yeah, yeah, and then finally,

1294
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,519
even though it doesn't work out for me anymore, Joran

1295
00:56:22,639 --> 00:56:24,760
Grace officially un smacked, and we talked about some Yeah,

1296
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,320
I guess we already talked about some. I'm just very

1297
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,519
excited she's actually called up. I think she should have

1298
00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:31,800
been called up like six months and I think she's underrated.

1299
00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:36,119
Speaker 4: That looks like Corey Hayes was like, because he reported

1300
00:56:36,119 --> 00:56:37,840
it like eight months ago. It was like, yeah, I

1301
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,199
was supposed to be like eight months ago. Just gut

1302
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:41,400
getting delayed.

1303
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,039
Speaker 3: Feels like that. But I'm very excited.

1304
00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: I think obviously we've talked about like yeah, us title

1305
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,119
picture of that, but I think in a couple of

1306
00:56:47,199 --> 00:56:49,199
years she's gonna be she could be in those manium

1307
00:56:49,519 --> 00:56:52,519
like Mania world title matches, whether bay Face or heel.

1308
00:56:52,519 --> 00:56:54,159
Speaker 3: I think she's she's got a lot of tools. I

1309
00:56:54,199 --> 00:56:57,320
think once the main audiences are wrestled too, man, she's

1310
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,079
she's really good. So I'm excited for that. Is there

1311
00:56:59,079 --> 00:57:01,360
any other culps we missed Tim talked about.

1312
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 4: We did. I guess we talked about Trick a little

1313
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:06,480
bit already.

1314
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: All right, Trick, Yeah, I think he's had a good

1315
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,800
couple of weeks. He's like that pro well, Randy was good.

1316
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,960
I think again they put him with the right people,

1317
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,199
Rey can make him look good. Cardona is going to

1318
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,480
be a challenge just because I think the styles are

1319
00:57:17,559 --> 00:57:19,559
very similar. I think Randy is someone who could learn

1320
00:57:19,599 --> 00:57:21,000
from and Trick.

1321
00:57:21,079 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1322
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: I feel like he's like a if they do a

1323
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,280
multimn us title Mania, that's where he would be and

1324
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,320
they could play at the mellow in him history right.

1325
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 4: So but yeah, so far other college we talked about,

1326
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,679
we did okay, so we did Trick, Javan, Oh, Jordan.

1327
00:57:39,039 --> 00:57:40,800
I guess we could kind of talk about like the

1328
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,519
rumored ones they are supposedly not happening at least right away,

1329
00:57:44,599 --> 00:57:50,480
which were what's Blake Morrow and JCJ, And there was

1330
00:57:50,559 --> 00:57:54,760
also Lolavice was also supported by body Sign but that

1331
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,800
won't Fightful didn't say anything about.

1332
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: She's been talked about for a while, Like I feel

1333
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,000
like we've heard that few times, and I think I

1334
00:58:02,119 --> 00:58:04,239
know there was this idea that apparently h wanted like

1335
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,320
Rodby the women's show and knacked only the tag team show.

1336
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,760
But like, doesn't mean you can't just let the women's

1337
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,920
roster just drown. You can't just have the same five

1338
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,239
people go through and through. So it's like Jordan being

1339
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,599
there is good there, Low would be good there, Blake

1340
00:58:16,679 --> 00:58:19,119
would be fantastic there, Jasey's and the one should have

1341
00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:20,519
been called it a long time. I think she could

1342
00:58:20,599 --> 00:58:22,679
kind of go either or I don't really have a

1343
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,880
preference there, But yeah, I don't know what's gonnappen because

1344
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:30,760
obviously got this weird NXT North American Shenanigans going on,

1345
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,159
and I don't know, it was a weird situation, but

1346
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:34,599
I Blake's like.

1347
00:58:34,679 --> 00:58:39,239
Speaker 4: I feel like half like a like an after Mania

1348
00:58:39,559 --> 00:58:42,079
call up, because that's the word that she's supposedly not

1349
00:58:42,199 --> 00:58:45,039
going right away because they have a match, Like she

1350
00:58:45,159 --> 00:58:48,639
has a match on stand and deliver is okay.

1351
00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that, and some of you like,

1352
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,000
this is a woman who is I saw multiple lists

1353
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,000
of being in people's top tens match the year, right,

1354
00:58:56,039 --> 00:58:59,519
It's like she's ready for the She's someone you could

1355
00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:01,000
argue that other than if they want to just get

1356
00:59:01,039 --> 00:59:03,679
her eyes on her likent need to go to NXT.

1357
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,639
Speaker 3: They like doing that obviously, But yeah, j C was

1358
00:59:06,719 --> 00:59:07,320
like Jason.

1359
00:59:07,079 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: Should have been up there a long time, and I

1360
00:59:09,079 --> 00:59:11,880
think I don't know why. I feel like I just

1361
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,559
picture her on RAW right now. I think she mixes

1362
00:59:14,599 --> 00:59:17,519
better with some of those characters on there. I could

1363
00:59:17,559 --> 00:59:19,840
be wrong, but I hope, I hope they both happened.

1364
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,639
N He's got enough people there in the ball they

1365
00:59:21,639 --> 00:59:22,119
can fill it.

1366
00:59:22,199 --> 00:59:25,119
Speaker 4: So, Yeah, it's definitely interesting. Like it's a very much

1367
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,960
like a like a new era of at Next to

1368
00:59:28,079 --> 00:59:30,039
You now with so many calls. I mean, that's how

1369
00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:33,880
they the show ended was like like after the OVA match,

1370
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:35,880
like before he vacated. It was like a match stage,

1371
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,360
sitting with Ava talking to like all the evolved and

1372
00:59:39,639 --> 00:59:41,039
like people.

1373
00:59:41,239 --> 00:59:45,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, ruthless aggression, that's sort of yeah. And yeah they

1374
00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:50,239
got Kindel Gray ever just run shop over there, Ken

1375
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,719
will Gray. Yeah, start a bunch of money.

1376
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, he offer ten times once she's getting paid on

1377
00:59:56,559 --> 00:59:59,280
her AW He said if she went to AW right now,

1378
00:59:59,639 --> 01:00:02,000
she'd be a top three best wrestler in the company,

1379
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,360
and that if she has no his, if she gets

1380
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,159
no injuries or anything like that, she's already gonna be

1381
01:00:07,199 --> 01:00:09,320
the greatest women's wrestler in the history of day.

1382
01:00:10,239 --> 01:00:11,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, he fucking loves her.

1383
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: I'll say a bit way too much because like that

1384
01:00:14,119 --> 01:00:16,000
like like I'm not saying she's not good from what

1385
01:00:16,079 --> 01:00:16,960
I saw she's but just like.

1386
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 3: She's so far like best three of all time. It's

1387
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,039
like that's that's just way to second. That's goind of

1388
01:00:24,119 --> 01:00:26,480
the big lights and stuff. I feel like they know

1389
01:00:26,599 --> 01:00:28,639
what they have, I think because she's in that system.

1390
01:00:29,199 --> 01:00:30,840
Like I think that's why Dave said that you'd have

1391
01:00:31,039 --> 01:00:34,079
to offer some crazy amount like ten times. But at

1392
01:00:34,119 --> 01:00:36,239
the same time, it's like, I think this is.

1393
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,559
Speaker 1: The right pairing for Kendall Gray right now, Like I

1394
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,000
love a w the top of before it's been nice.

1395
01:00:41,039 --> 01:00:44,119
We've had two aw pay reviews now with three women's matches,

1396
01:00:44,159 --> 01:00:46,199
so we're starting it there. But we still also not

1397
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,480
have a single terry pay per view main event of show,

1398
01:00:49,559 --> 01:00:51,800
right So unless she is just fully money operated, I

1399
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,440
don't think Tony Kahan would like.

1400
01:00:53,679 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 3: Because also it's just like Dave, he's going over there,

1401
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:04,360
he's right now, But no, like that's where she could

1402
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,360
just run shopping XST for a while, you know, just

1403
01:01:06,639 --> 01:01:09,400
give it to her, let her break Oscar's record, just

1404
01:01:09,519 --> 01:01:11,840
have her run for three years as a CHAMPI you know.

1405
01:01:12,039 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 4: So yeah, I could see her winning the title like

1406
01:01:15,199 --> 01:01:18,320
as soon as well, because because what they've set up,

1407
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:23,320
like the next NXT Women's title challenger is probably gonna

1408
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:27,280
be Soul Ruka. I don't know if she would win that, like,

1409
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:32,079
especially because I feel like would get called up soon. Yeah.

1410
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,159
So I feel like Jac like beats Soul with like

1411
01:01:36,239 --> 01:01:39,559
because because she beat Kendall, like she pretty much had

1412
01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:43,639
the match one and like through through fatal influence cheating,

1413
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,360
she she was able to beat Kendall and it was like, oh,

1414
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,960
she like barely survived. So I feel like if she

1415
01:01:49,079 --> 01:01:53,280
barely survives against like Soul, then you could do like

1416
01:01:53,519 --> 01:01:57,360
j C and Kendall like at Standard Deliver and then

1417
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,679
jac loses there gets called up afterwards.

1418
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Souls kind of like Javon where it's like

1419
01:02:03,559 --> 01:02:05,719
you didn't get that next to ty Run in retrospect,

1420
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,239
they should have had Javon beat Olb instead of Ricky

1421
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,880
Oba went up and then Javon eventually goes up. That again,

1422
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,800
it just sounds like they change plans on them all

1423
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,239
the time. But I guess that's just a question of yeah,

1424
01:02:16,239 --> 01:02:18,119
it's the plants name that happens. Bazaari, you know, does

1425
01:02:18,199 --> 01:02:19,599
she stay down, well Zola goes up.

1426
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 3: I really don't know.

1427
01:02:20,679 --> 01:02:25,239
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's definitely it's definitely gonna be interesting for

1428
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:29,239
NXT to see what they do with so many people

1429
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:30,039
having left.

1430
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the thing. Like the next three things

1431
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:38,599
are like like you have signings, people that have expired contracts.

1432
01:02:38,159 --> 01:02:41,679
Speaker 4: You have people and they're doing Yeah, they just announced

1433
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:46,239
like like they're doing a tryout like I think in

1434
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,440
a few either next week or in a few weeks,

1435
01:02:48,519 --> 01:02:52,880
with like a bunch of indie wrestlers, like they'll like

1436
01:02:53,079 --> 01:02:55,760
some talked about ones like well, one of the people

1437
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,559
were talking about is this I forget her exact name,

1438
01:02:58,559 --> 01:03:04,400
it's like nor Phoenix something, but she wrestled the Mercedes

1439
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,039
Money a few months back at a indie show and

1440
01:03:08,239 --> 01:03:12,079
was also at the Bailey Loadstone camp and now she

1441
01:03:12,159 --> 01:03:15,400
has a tryout. So it's definitely a like got some

1442
01:03:15,599 --> 01:03:17,039
good word put in there.

1443
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,679
Speaker 3: That Mercedes fed's.

1444
01:03:19,559 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 4: Soldier thing, if you were saying, Mercedes I D doing

1445
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:23,719
better work than.

1446
01:03:23,719 --> 01:03:24,119
Speaker 3: The w.

1447
01:03:25,679 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think W I D is gonna like go

1448
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:28,960
away in the next couple of years. I don't see

1449
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:30,679
it being around too much longer.

1450
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:36,159
Speaker 3: Just yeah, uh, anything else big why is that we

1451
01:03:36,239 --> 01:03:36,800
haven't hit.

1452
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 4: On on probably kind of talked about the Rumble winners

1453
01:03:43,559 --> 01:03:44,159
a little bit.

1454
01:03:44,559 --> 01:03:48,159
Speaker 1: Uh Yeah, I'm I'm Roman Ria. I'm just gonna stay

1455
01:03:48,199 --> 01:03:49,960
say if it's those due, that's you two, David.

1456
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:55,039
Speaker 2: I think Roman is everyone's male pick. Yeah, I'm Roman.

1457
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:58,039
Speaker 3: Eo Romeo Okay. And then I suppose if.

1458
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 4: I have to lock one in, I'm just gonna say.

1459
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,840
I think I'm gonna say Braun and Live.

1460
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind that. That'd be like two first time winners.

1461
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:10,360
That'd be good. I think Live is I know you

1462
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,880
said you don't. I could see women.

1463
01:04:13,199 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 4: I'm super like you could could if you had a

1464
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,079
good argument, you could convince you on like five different people.

1465
01:04:18,199 --> 01:04:20,559
But if I had to pick one right now, I'd

1466
01:04:20,639 --> 01:04:21,079
say Live.

1467
01:04:21,639 --> 01:04:25,199
Speaker 3: Yeah. Live, I think is a top five maybe top.

1468
01:04:25,039 --> 01:04:29,039
Speaker 4: Three every single Rumble and has won one.

1469
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,559
Speaker 1: So yes, and not last year, but the two years

1470
01:04:31,599 --> 01:04:34,000
before she was the runner up. Both times she was

1471
01:04:34,039 --> 01:04:35,679
like the Iron Woman and one of them too, so

1472
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:37,960
like she has a big history and they would do.

1473
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,679
That's why I thought she could have maybe won last year.

1474
01:04:40,719 --> 01:04:42,880
And I thought we were maybe from Rihea again because

1475
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,159
they keep hyping up. Oh she's always second last.

1476
01:04:45,199 --> 01:04:46,719
Speaker 3: So no, I think it's possible.

1477
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,079
Speaker 4: But uh, also, I guess right. I thought Cody's definitely

1478
01:04:50,119 --> 01:04:51,239
gonna be in the rumble in.

1479
01:04:54,199 --> 01:04:58,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so unless they're running back the title match,

1480
01:04:58,639 --> 01:05:01,159
if they run back the title match separately, or if they.

1481
01:05:01,079 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 4: Do defending the title against the winner of that whole

1482
01:05:05,159 --> 01:05:06,000
mini tournament thing.

1483
01:05:06,119 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, but they could do a triple throw him.

1484
01:05:08,599 --> 01:05:11,639
Speaker 3: They could Cod Cody. Could we plan in there somehow?

1485
01:05:11,719 --> 01:05:14,880
And Sam is like, yeah, but I would see.

1486
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 4: I think it would be more value for the first saud.

1487
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,519
You'd be like, we want we want Cody, we want Roman,

1488
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,000
we want all these people in the roombo match.

1489
01:05:23,679 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just shutting the.

1490
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 4: Throwing each other out. Bron wins by default.

1491
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could do that.

1492
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: I just shut the thought of Roman throwing Cody out

1493
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,400
and then also being a Mania just dog walking them

1494
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,880
the season, like I just I just always like, no,

1495
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,079
don't worry, I'll give you the win at MANI and

1496
01:05:40,159 --> 01:05:41,039
then it comes time to it.

1497
01:05:41,119 --> 01:05:43,639
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, you could get the stare down too

1498
01:05:43,719 --> 01:05:44,760
between Cody and Roman.

1499
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 1: I think they'll happen. I would they wouldn't because Rome's

1500
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,440
gonna be a thirty. I love number one and number

1501
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,519
two to be Cody and Roman. I would I would

1502
01:05:52,639 --> 01:05:55,920
pop so hard because imagine, like the whole Rumble story is,

1503
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,159
these guys are trying to desperately get that title back

1504
01:05:58,239 --> 01:06:00,159
and they're both in the way. And then like say,

1505
01:06:00,199 --> 01:06:02,199
if they do lose and Broun gets it, that's like

1506
01:06:02,239 --> 01:06:03,880
a I know they kind of did that with Punk,

1507
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,119
Seth and Roman last year, but I'd love there one

1508
01:06:07,199 --> 01:06:08,039
and two to do that.

1509
01:06:08,079 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 4: But no they want I mean, what would the final

1510
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,280
four in this scenario would be. I feel like it'd

1511
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,480
be like Roman or not. If I feel like Roman

1512
01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:19,360
being there, I feel like Gunther would probably be in there.

1513
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 1: Honestly, Yeah, I feel like Roman, Cody, Broun, Gunther is

1514
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:26,719
the four.

1515
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 3: That's how I would think. Yeah, because two baby faces,

1516
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,920
two heels, you got a mixture of old whatnot.

1517
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,199
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think there's anybody else in there, Like

1518
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:38,280
if Sets a surprise return for some reason, then maybe yeah,

1519
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:39,400
you could get them in there.

1520
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 3: I still think you.

1521
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,079
Speaker 1: Hold off to Steph till after Mania, but also I

1522
01:06:43,119 --> 01:06:47,159
don't know his status. Yeah, I'm trying to if anybody

1523
01:06:47,199 --> 01:06:47,920
else is there.

1524
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,599
Speaker 4: I feel like Ilia will have a good run in

1525
01:06:50,679 --> 01:06:52,880
the Rumbles. So I don't know, I feel I just

1526
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,400
feel it and we'll probably staying on with Gum as well.

1527
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,039
Speaker 3: Yeah that'd be good. Yeah, it was always a chance

1528
01:06:58,119 --> 01:06:59,679
to be in the top four as well too, you

1529
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:00,440
can have him in.

1530
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 4: There, so yeah, I feel like Brock. Brock always gets

1531
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:07,559
thrown out quickly in these yea the final four. Yeah

1532
01:07:07,639 --> 01:07:10,239
he comes in, he's thrown out in like thirty seconds,

1533
01:07:10,519 --> 01:07:13,000
like lastly, like oh yeah a few years ago or.

1534
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 1: So terrible the wyaots one time just chucked him out

1535
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:21,000
without again, never Paul anything. The plan was Brave versus Brock,

1536
01:07:21,079 --> 01:07:23,039
and then it was Brock's not feeling it and it's

1537
01:07:23,039 --> 01:07:24,719
like why everyone loves bre Brock's.

1538
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,679
Speaker 3: Not feeling And then he got Ambrose who then also

1539
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,239
Brocks like, oh he's not feeling this either.

1540
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,039
Speaker 1: So I think Brock was just in a pissy mood

1541
01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:33,400
that season because I like they both have different stories

1542
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:37,039
that that went down. I think Paul Eyman tried to

1543
01:07:37,039 --> 01:07:39,760
attribute to like Box He's like worth epic and Ambrose

1544
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:40,880
was like he doesn't want do anything.

1545
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 3: He's like what about this? What this? Like nah, well

1546
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:43,400
what about this?

1547
01:07:43,639 --> 01:07:43,679
Speaker 4: No?

1548
01:07:43,719 --> 01:07:45,199
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that, like it just like

1549
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,599
they just did not get along at all whatsoever. And

1550
01:07:47,679 --> 01:07:49,599
it sucked because I was like, that was one of

1551
01:07:49,599 --> 01:07:52,719
my most excited matches that year, was like Ambrose and Brock.

1552
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:54,880
I thought, all that could steal the show and all

1553
01:07:55,039 --> 01:07:58,119
it's like a solid like three point twenty five or something.

1554
01:07:58,159 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 3: It's it's very medio.

1555
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:04,159
Speaker 1: So, uh, well, speaking of mister mox lea you can transition,

1556
01:08:04,199 --> 01:08:06,079
aw because we're gonna go over old world.

1557
01:08:06,159 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 3: Then it's just the big stuff and things that happened.

1558
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,599
Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess the death Writers have not broken up.

1559
01:08:11,719 --> 01:08:14,400
And we're sitting here talking about John Moxley won the

1560
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,600
Continent Classic in a time where I think everyone was

1561
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:21,079
booking him to do very poorly to enhance that story.

1562
01:08:21,159 --> 01:08:22,960
But I guess it has come out that Moxley said

1563
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,199
that they kind of do plan to do a death

1564
01:08:25,239 --> 01:08:26,720
writer's breakup, but they don't want to do it in

1565
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:28,720
a conventual like they just turn on beat them down.

1566
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 3: I don't know what that's gonna be.

1567
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: I think, uh, there's a good track record for very

1568
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,800
good and bad ideas for mox and unconventional stuff. So

1569
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,840
we'll see what happens, but uh he won. And I

1570
01:08:39,119 --> 01:08:41,319
liked most of the matches. I think Woxley o caught.

1571
01:08:41,359 --> 01:08:46,479
It was the lowest tier one. I just am very confused, Like, okay, cool,

1572
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,279
I some got to watch Benjamin of Mox. I heard

1573
01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:50,479
that was actually a really good match. Just I'm one

1574
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,760
dynamite behind, so like, I know, Moxy's your ace, he

1575
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,199
can get a pop, he can work in matches with people.

1576
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:57,279
Speaker 3: I just am.

1577
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,199
Speaker 1: We talked about this in discord and it's been a while,

1578
01:08:59,239 --> 01:09:01,680
but it's just like I still am just very confused

1579
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:02,319
why they did.

1580
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,359
Speaker 3: Taqusha and Okada in this fashion and Okada got the

1581
01:09:05,399 --> 01:09:09,119
win like it was. It was a very world's end. Overall,

1582
01:09:09,119 --> 01:09:10,439
I thought it was actually a really good show.

1583
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,560
Speaker 1: It was some of the decisions of the booking that

1584
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:16,199
made me questioning more of the end result, like of

1585
01:09:16,279 --> 01:09:18,399
that we talked about before, like MGF winning it's like,

1586
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:19,920
well wide and hang in, just keep it the whole

1587
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,199
time to the same match, but uh yeah, I guess

1588
01:09:22,279 --> 01:09:24,640
Moxy Como classic and they're in this weird place where

1589
01:09:25,119 --> 01:09:28,199
the death writers are working as heels lower down the card,

1590
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:32,920
but then Moxley is just wrestling heels and like he's

1591
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:34,479
like a pseudo baby face.

1592
01:09:34,279 --> 01:09:37,560
Speaker 4: Like I that's writers of Melvin feuding with the conglomeration

1593
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:39,680
for like four months.

1594
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 1: Other than when I get to see Marina and Roddy

1595
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,920
do spots together. I have no interest in the conglomeration.

1596
01:09:46,079 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 3: I do not like it.

1597
01:09:47,159 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 1: I don't like a stable of losers. I didn't like

1598
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,000
the job squad back in the day, which was fine,

1599
01:09:52,039 --> 01:09:54,640
It's like that was more of a joke. But yeah, Dan,

1600
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,960
what do you take from because I don't think any

1601
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,640
of us picked Max and when we did our prediction show,

1602
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,439
I don't think an of us picked Moxley win whole thing.

1603
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:01,680
So what do you think about this? And what do

1604
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,199
you what do you see like Moxley doing with the

1605
01:10:04,239 --> 01:10:08,119
Condo Classic Oca wins? So now we have god because

1606
01:10:08,159 --> 01:10:10,119
what is Okada has? The international?

1607
01:10:10,319 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 2: Right?

1608
01:10:11,239 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1609
01:10:12,079 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 3: International?

1610
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: We got Mark Briscoll with the TNT, we got Max

1611
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:19,359
with Conno Classic, you got Ricochet with a stupid what

1612
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:19,640
is it?

1613
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:23,159
Speaker 3: The National Championship? We get the main title. So again

1614
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,520
we got a bunch of titles around. So yeah, what's

1615
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:27,199
going on with Max?

1616
01:10:27,239 --> 01:10:29,359
Speaker 1: And we're you surprised by the falling out and some

1617
01:10:29,399 --> 01:10:31,560
of the matches from worlds End on the condona classic side.

1618
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,039
Speaker 6: I was surprised for him winning at all. I don't

1619
01:10:35,119 --> 01:10:36,359
know where they're going next.

1620
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 2: Like I thought that maybe he would suffer another loss

1621
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,720
and then that was going to lead to the eventual life.

1622
01:10:43,079 --> 01:10:44,520
I didn't think it was gonna be one of those

1623
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,159
beat down, we kick you out type of deals. But

1624
01:10:47,159 --> 01:10:48,439
I did think it was going to be more of

1625
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:52,680
a where usurping your authority type deal. Claudio's in charge

1626
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:56,800
now and then you just see Moxley take a break

1627
01:10:57,079 --> 01:10:58,640
and you don't see him for a while, and then

1628
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:02,319
he just randomly shows back up, you know, opposite of them.

1629
01:11:03,039 --> 01:11:05,600
I thought they would pull one of those maneuvers, because

1630
01:11:06,039 --> 01:11:09,439
I mean, the Death the whole group has been weird,

1631
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,720
even from before they were the Death Riders, when it

1632
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:15,880
was the black Pool Combat Club, Like when you had

1633
01:11:16,319 --> 01:11:18,920
one minute their heels, the next minute their faces. Then

1634
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,119
you have a team when Brian's wrestling as a face

1635
01:11:22,159 --> 01:11:23,640
and mox is the heel over here.

1636
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,239
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, Regal's helping MGF randomly because

1637
01:11:26,279 --> 01:11:28,359
like he I know he went to but it was

1638
01:11:28,399 --> 01:11:31,199
a more stupid storyline reason of like yeah, oh, I

1639
01:11:31,279 --> 01:11:34,239
can't even remember what the reason he gets he turned

1640
01:11:34,279 --> 01:11:36,439
on Moxley and then like Brian was like, oh, let

1641
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:37,640
him go and don't kill him. But it was like

1642
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:39,680
some of the most dumb stuff like why would Regal

1643
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,079
help like his last time made no sense from Oxley,

1644
01:11:42,199 --> 01:11:44,439
just like to win the title back like like eight

1645
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:45,039
months or so.

1646
01:11:46,159 --> 01:11:48,119
Speaker 6: So I don't like this.

1647
01:11:48,279 --> 01:11:51,279
Speaker 2: Group just has such an up and down identity that

1648
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:55,159
it's so hard to figure out, like what they're end

1649
01:11:55,239 --> 01:11:58,520
game is going to be. So when I thought Max

1650
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,439
was losing and that was just going to be his

1651
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,680
way out of it all, I was okay with that.

1652
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:04,680
Now I don't see where they're going, and I don't

1653
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:06,840
think they know where they're going. I know that there

1654
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,119
is any game to break them up, but I don't

1655
01:12:09,119 --> 01:12:11,199
think they figured out what their endgame is to break

1656
01:12:11,279 --> 01:12:11,560
them up.

1657
01:12:12,079 --> 01:12:14,560
Speaker 4: It's like the Rock. If you ask Moxley, he'd like,

1658
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,199
you know, shut up and enjoy the ride.

1659
01:12:17,119 --> 01:12:21,199
Speaker 3: Moxcuse I feel like Moxley is going to pull the

1660
01:12:21,239 --> 01:12:25,199
trigger when he thinks it's right. And granted the the

1661
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,600
Moxley hangman thing, like they all in and end up

1662
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:28,039
working out.

1663
01:12:28,079 --> 01:12:30,520
Speaker 1: And I said this before, we're like if Tony Kahn

1664
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,359
lets some deuces, I think that Moxley's pretty much a lifer,

1665
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:34,279
and I think he is.

1666
01:12:34,319 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 3: Most people even know boost like, oh, Moxley has no intention.

1667
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,319
Speaker 1: Going back to WB, but I still thought, like, eh,

1668
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,760
if this isn't go Moxley's way, he'll start looking what

1669
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,479
TKO has offer, like money wise, like he'll sniff over there.

1670
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 4: Now.

1671
01:12:45,039 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 1: I think Moxley is like and because of all in working,

1672
01:12:48,199 --> 01:12:50,680
everyone forgets like those first two and a half months

1673
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,119
of the earlier this year of the Deaf Writers and

1674
01:12:53,279 --> 01:12:56,560
like how everyone's like this sucks is hurting AWTV. So

1675
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:58,760
I think because that worked out, though Tony CON's all

1676
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,880
like okay, trust you, John do whatever, and it's like, okay,

1677
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:03,760
I I hope this we're going and I guess it's fun.

1678
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,560
It's just a Condle classic, but it's just like, again,

1679
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,479
we have a fucking another title running around and I

1680
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:11,960
don't know, like they they felt like they didn't even

1681
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:13,800
revisit claudiall beat him in the tournament that.

1682
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,159
Speaker 3: Hasn't even been mentioned, you know, So.

1683
01:13:18,199 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 4: It's weird.

1684
01:13:19,399 --> 01:13:22,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey us your king though you're always talking about

1685
01:13:22,199 --> 01:13:25,239
Moxley and what do you think about Moxley winning this

1686
01:13:25,399 --> 01:13:27,479
and what's uh, what's What's I mean?

1687
01:13:28,399 --> 01:13:32,520
Speaker 4: I enjoyed it. I thought I thought like like people

1688
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,920
were like there's some people who predicted like how the

1689
01:13:35,039 --> 01:13:38,800
Mocks versus Okada match was gonna go. So when sting

1690
01:13:39,039 --> 01:13:42,199
started happening, I started like like them turning the referee

1691
01:13:42,279 --> 01:13:44,840
around and like double low blowing each other. I was like,

1692
01:13:45,159 --> 01:13:47,439
I can tell people were gonna be mad at this match,

1693
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:53,359
but I was enjoying it, and uh, yeah, I'm curious.

1694
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:55,399
And when this goes like you said, it's weird, that's

1695
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:59,800
like kind of doing two things like completely differently, like

1696
01:14:00,039 --> 01:14:01,680
when you're looking at mox and then the rest of

1697
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,199
the Death Riders. So it's kind of feels like if

1698
01:14:04,279 --> 01:14:06,720
mox is just like doing his own thing, all the

1699
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,439
rest of the Death Riders are doing this stuff. I

1700
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,359
don't really know, like, yeah, what the end point for

1701
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:13,399
this exactly?

1702
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 2: Is?

1703
01:14:14,399 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 3: Like I wonder because like if everything builds all out,

1704
01:14:17,039 --> 01:14:19,079
like I'm just trying to think, like because all else

1705
01:14:19,159 --> 01:14:21,039
what eight are all in? Are all in?

1706
01:14:21,359 --> 01:14:21,640
Speaker 4: Was that a?

1707
01:14:22,199 --> 01:14:22,520
Speaker 3: It's all?

1708
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 4: When?

1709
01:14:23,199 --> 01:14:25,560
Speaker 3: When is that now? Not April manias A? Is that

1710
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:30,199
that's like as okay? So that's a long time. Even

1711
01:14:30,239 --> 01:14:31,720
though if you were to tell me like, oh, Max

1712
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:36,479
is gonna hold this titles all in, I would yes,

1713
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:37,520
that's a long time.

1714
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 1: So I feel I feel like Moxley is gonna have

1715
01:14:41,039 --> 01:14:42,920
a big match, like honestly, but I feel like he's

1716
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:44,880
gonna have like something of note. I don't know what

1717
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,560
they could do if that's like the death writers breakup

1718
01:14:48,039 --> 01:14:50,359
fuck at this point, just making him versus Marina, you know,

1719
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:52,279
like I'd be down for her to lead.

1720
01:14:52,199 --> 01:14:55,560
Speaker 3: And then happened, but uh yeah, I don't know. It's

1721
01:14:56,319 --> 01:14:58,720
it's odd. I just it just feels like they like, Okay,

1722
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:00,520
well we don't know what we're doing all honestly, they're

1723
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,000
not bringing the riders, so we're gonna give I wonder

1724
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:03,640
if that's it too.

1725
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 1: I wonder if they're kind of like, yeah, we're gonna

1726
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:06,960
break up the writers and that kind of gives you,

1727
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,920
you know, four to six months of opponents and he's like,

1728
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:12,279
that doesn't worked for me, brother, and they're like, well,

1729
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:14,640
let's just give him the title because that can also

1730
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,520
just like give him stuff to do, right, because if

1731
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:17,720
he's not doing that, what else.

1732
01:15:18,239 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 4: That's like the thing about having so many titles, like

1733
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:23,159
you can just give them to a guy to give

1734
01:15:23,199 --> 01:15:23,880
them something to do.

1735
01:15:24,359 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 1: While that's what it feels like because he did. Benjamin

1736
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:28,119
was just said, I've heard a good match. What was

1737
01:15:28,159 --> 01:15:28,760
the first one?

1738
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:33,359
Speaker 3: His first defense the week it was like three days after,

1739
01:15:36,399 --> 01:15:37,600
Oh somebody.

1740
01:15:39,319 --> 01:15:42,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't like, yeah, check. It wasn't like Jets anyone

1741
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:46,880
from Yeah, of course, just some that that's just something.

1742
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,439
Guy that cave in it has done nothing right, so

1743
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:51,159
that that makes sense. But again it was like, oh,

1744
01:15:51,239 --> 01:15:53,199
that that fits for Mosley, so we'll see.

1745
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:57,359
Speaker 4: I think these are technically like eliminator matches.

1746
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,199
Speaker 3: You don't understand if Max is gonna win. To have

1747
01:16:00,399 --> 01:16:04,000
title matches is so dumb. It's like I hate the eliminator,

1748
01:16:04,119 --> 01:16:05,680
Like I just don't like that all.

1749
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 1: Like, if he's gonna if he's gonna win, have him

1750
01:16:09,079 --> 01:16:10,840
defend the title and that's a title defense.

1751
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,239
Speaker 3: If Benjamin, if you want to like, if he's gonna

1752
01:16:13,319 --> 01:16:14,359
lose it, then like, I.

1753
01:16:14,359 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 4: Don't know funny enough. I think one of the the

1754
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,680
only times I've seen someone lose in an eliminator match

1755
01:16:20,319 --> 01:16:23,760
was Anna j Vit Mariah May and her title reign

1756
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:25,479
in an eliminator match.

1757
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: Yes, something up town match and rest is history. But yeah,

1758
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:31,840
speaking of the women's we we talk us a little bit.

1759
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,199
But then I'll see they announce the match. I guess

1760
01:16:34,279 --> 01:16:36,479
we've kind of been way for this that the downfall

1761
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:37,760
Mercedes happening, and it did.

1762
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:39,039
Speaker 3: It's we had Willow.

1763
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:42,560
Speaker 1: They just ran and said yeah on Dynamite this week

1764
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:46,359
last one five will versus Mercedes. And this was a

1765
01:16:46,399 --> 01:16:48,039
fun week on Twitter for me because it was like

1766
01:16:48,079 --> 01:16:50,359
everyone just booking, like how's it gonna go? And I

1767
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,840
do love situations where it's okay, we legitally don't know

1768
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:54,079
what's gonna happen.

1769
01:16:54,079 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 3: It's gonna be d Q. Is this the start of

1770
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,640
starting Mercedes wins? Is it will O winning? Is it

1771
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:00,680
a draw? Like there's so many as it could have gone.

1772
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:03,039
Speaker 1: And I because I remember I saw strange with things,

1773
01:17:03,199 --> 01:17:05,079
and I just saw like I had this no vacation

1774
01:17:05,159 --> 01:17:07,800
but them. I just saw like April just but will

1775
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,880
in all caps, I was like I didn't have her winning.

1776
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,039
I wanted her to win because I'm with people that

1777
01:17:13,119 --> 01:17:13,520
I think.

1778
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:17,359
Speaker 4: We all had like Willow needs to beat Mercedes risk title.

1779
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:19,960
But then also a lot of people are fantasy looking

1780
01:17:20,079 --> 01:17:22,720
like this would like be a pay per view match

1781
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:24,479
or like main event match.

1782
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 1: Yes, And I think like clearly it was the week

1783
01:17:27,039 --> 01:17:31,239
before where Mercedes lost some fucking title to wins or right,

1784
01:17:31,279 --> 01:17:33,760
I can't remember what it is like her.

1785
01:17:34,119 --> 01:17:38,199
Speaker 4: I think she had like two of the British titles, yeah, yeah.

1786
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:41,039
Speaker 6: The British Pro or Rev Pro one of theose.

1787
01:17:41,079 --> 01:17:41,239
Speaker 4: Yes.

1788
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 1: And I'm with some people that like, I don't like

1789
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:45,560
the idea if she would go lose all the indie

1790
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:48,039
titles and then lose the TVs title, because you would

1791
01:17:48,079 --> 01:17:50,439
lose out this moment with Will, where like we were

1792
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,000
all willing Will to do it, but it didn't feel

1793
01:17:52,039 --> 01:17:53,920
like a given. It was still a nice surprise in

1794
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:57,279
a moment where if Mercedes has now lost seventeen matches

1795
01:17:57,319 --> 01:17:59,520
in a row and she's going against Will, it's like, well, yeah,

1796
01:18:00,119 --> 01:18:01,680
those is gonna win. So I prefer the oh she

1797
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,039
loses the TV style now she goes back to all

1798
01:18:04,079 --> 01:18:05,760
these indies and lose them all, because I still think

1799
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,720
what's gonna happen is I think she's just gonna win

1800
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:09,079
the O one again, and I think at the all

1801
01:18:09,199 --> 01:18:12,239
end she'll win the actual World's title, because that's been

1802
01:18:12,239 --> 01:18:14,359
the one she can't win. Right, So it's like she'll

1803
01:18:14,399 --> 01:18:16,640
lose all these titles, but she'll win like the Aw's

1804
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,520
world title. I don't know, it's still gonna be stat

1805
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:20,359
Lander holding it. I don't mind that because they have

1806
01:18:20,399 --> 01:18:22,640
great chemistry. I just don't know if they're gonna have

1807
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:25,439
stat hold it till August, Like that seems like a

1808
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:27,520
long run. I'm fine that they can do a long run.

1809
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,239
It's just like I wonder if she'll be able to

1810
01:18:29,239 --> 01:18:32,079
sustain that. It'll be a challenge. But yeah, and I

1811
01:18:32,319 --> 01:18:34,399
also I guess that was the reason why too. If

1812
01:18:34,399 --> 01:18:37,840
you're on Willow winning, it's because she had the tag titles.

1813
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:39,399
I thought, ah, well, are they really gonna put this

1814
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:39,640
on her?

1815
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 4: Now?

1816
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,399
Speaker 3: She just got this? But uh yeah, she got that.

1817
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,600
And they're still defending those tag titles regularly and they're

1818
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:48,439
all right matches, you know, nothing amazing.

1819
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 4: So I don't really know. I mean, what seems to

1820
01:18:52,119 --> 01:18:55,600
be next for for all of them. They're in the

1821
01:18:55,760 --> 01:19:00,319
uh what's the Triangle of Madness? Right vortex now, which

1822
01:19:00,319 --> 01:19:02,560
I mean I feel like they're probably gonna have like

1823
01:19:03,279 --> 01:19:05,920
I feel like that Tech was gonna go for like

1824
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:10,479
the world title. They'll probably defend against uh like for

1825
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,640
the tag titles the other two and then one of

1826
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:17,359
them will get a TVs title shot since they've all

1827
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:21,359
kind of been in a group together here of Chris,

1828
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:23,079
Willow and Harley.

1829
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see that that makes sense.

1830
01:19:26,079 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't really know who would be the

1831
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:31,520
person to beat Chris right now. I'm not sure unless

1832
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,800
like Mercedes then comes back and wins the main title.

1833
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:39,680
She also like this week on Collision was like she

1834
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:42,000
had like a vignette where she was like covered in

1835
01:19:42,119 --> 01:19:43,520
the cake and stuff and was.

1836
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 6: Like waiting for a while.

1837
01:19:47,079 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 2: Everyone can see how much she's missed and how much

1838
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:50,600
the division needs her.

1839
01:19:51,039 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 1: I did not like the post dynamite cake in the face,

1840
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:57,159
like that's big fun of Mercedes because like all particular sades,

1841
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:00,039
that just like was very cheesing over the top, like

1842
01:20:00,159 --> 01:20:02,439
the stuffing done with Mercedes's.

1843
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:05,159
Speaker 4: Her, that's her writer. I don't like it.

1844
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 3: Don't know, don't like.

1845
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:12,119
Speaker 4: Ill who just like hates this writer so much and

1846
01:20:12,199 --> 01:20:14,840
always talks about like he's ruined Mercedes segments.

1847
01:20:15,239 --> 01:20:17,199
Speaker 1: I think I'm with them, Like it's a difference of

1848
01:20:17,319 --> 01:20:20,119
like like obviously they did that with Tony and then

1849
01:20:20,159 --> 01:20:23,079
Thomas Tony Storm got brought like brought on right, but

1850
01:20:23,119 --> 01:20:25,479
that was a whole gimmick, change, whole idea. I don't

1851
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:27,720
think in the future Mercedes come back as some calmedy

1852
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,680
gimmick or something like. I I think there's certain characters

1853
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:33,960
because I both organizations do this with the loss and

1854
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,600
someone has a crash out. I think there's certain characters

1855
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:38,880
you can do that. I think when Mercedes characters like

1856
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:40,960
on the Graves of all time, her kind of being

1857
01:20:41,039 --> 01:20:43,920
like a joke. With Cakennor, it's like no, like and then,

1858
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:45,880
don't get me wrong, like so my Kurd angle, he

1859
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:47,840
actually could get away with that ship, like he could

1860
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,479
be made fun of all the time. But with Mercedes,

1861
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:53,119
I just don't feel she's like I think the puppet

1862
01:20:53,199 --> 01:20:56,199
is like the line like the Puppets, like, yeah, the puppet's.

1863
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:58,079
Speaker 3: Fine, but because that's like kurreating annoyed by this person, like,

1864
01:20:58,119 --> 01:21:00,439
oh that's fine. But her sitting there and there's like

1865
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,119
birds eye view shot of her on the ground laid out.

1866
01:21:03,039 --> 01:21:04,560
Speaker 1: And there's a cake holl over. I'm like, I don't

1867
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:07,000
need Mercedes doing this stuff, you know. So I think

1868
01:21:07,039 --> 01:21:08,399
she goes away and lose those titles. And then the

1869
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:10,600
question is though maybe they have a heel beat stat

1870
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:12,720
because if they think that she'll if she wins the

1871
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:16,279
world title, she'll be a babyface, maybe that'll be the time.

1872
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 3: So I don't know.

1873
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:21,399
Speaker 1: And yeah with the men's asta, M jeff wanted, I

1874
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:25,119
am still because also this is another thing. There is

1875
01:21:25,159 --> 01:21:27,880
a point in time, right everyone knows the MGFJ White match,

1876
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,319
there's a point in time where it ever felt like

1877
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,359
AW was like building on WW. That was like the

1878
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:36,199
oh something something's changed at W was always still gaining

1879
01:21:36,199 --> 01:21:38,840
attraction back, but that was the like the tip of

1880
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:40,920
the iceberg of okay, things have changed, and then the

1881
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,800
devil stuff happened. So I think a lot of mgf's

1882
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:48,039
first title run is fairly criticized and then also unfairly criticized.

1883
01:21:48,039 --> 01:21:50,119
It's all the Adam Coole entry stuff. They were just

1884
01:21:50,199 --> 01:21:52,520
pitvoting all the time, trying to figure it out. So

1885
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,880
I understand why there's a lot of people excited for

1886
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:56,399
the second run. But there's a lot of people that

1887
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:58,359
are like, oh, MJFF. And I even saw when he

1888
01:21:58,399 --> 01:22:00,399
brought the triple B back, people like oh fuck, like

1889
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:04,319
he's just running this back. But like, I'm hopeful the

1890
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:06,840
only thing that I'll be curious about is for the

1891
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:08,920
next few months or not few, because you said end

1892
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:12,439
of August, like unless will Osprey is not cleared, It's

1893
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:13,920
like we just know the story.

1894
01:22:14,039 --> 01:22:14,359
Speaker 3: We just know.

1895
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:17,239
Speaker 1: It's like m Jeff holds this until August he loses

1896
01:22:17,359 --> 01:22:19,600
to Osprey, right, and just like that's a good thing.

1897
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,880
I think m Jeff can keep it entertaining enough. But

1898
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:25,399
when it's almost so just clearcut that sometimes can get

1899
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:27,359
it out that that's the only good thing about Eve.

1900
01:22:27,359 --> 01:22:30,159
Speaker 3: When deaf writers sucked, it's like, well, maybe this is

1901
01:22:30,199 --> 01:22:31,039
the month where they lose.

1902
01:22:31,079 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 1: And then eventually's like, okay, they're doing it all in

1903
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,640
where this it's like everyone just knows, well, m Jeff's

1904
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,319
gonna barring injury, He's just gonna keep this title till then.

1905
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,760
I'm excited for him, Bendido, and I think they'll do

1906
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:42,960
like him and swerve him and hang man, but I

1907
01:22:43,119 --> 01:22:43,600
just I'm not.

1908
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:47,520
Speaker 4: Sure they're also Kenny in there, right.

1909
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 1: I'm excited, Yeah, And I'm hoping because people are fantasy

1910
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,039
booking that they're gonna do that for the Vancouver show

1911
01:22:54,159 --> 01:22:56,000
and I might try to go to that so because

1912
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,720
if it's Kenny and m Jeff made a van Dynasty

1913
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:02,640
of Vancouver actually there. Yeah, so I'm hoping, so, yeah, Kenny,

1914
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,640
that'll watchually have some juice. Thank god we have a

1915
01:23:06,079 --> 01:23:08,640
dynamite episode. And Kenny didn't mention the don Colls family

1916
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,000
once or there's no attack, Please be.

1917
01:23:11,079 --> 01:23:13,560
Speaker 3: Done with that. But yeah, dude, what do you do

1918
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:14,720
with the Men's World title?

1919
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:17,239
Speaker 1: Maybe like keep it fresh until all in because we're

1920
01:23:17,279 --> 01:23:19,640
just you know, until we're just waiting for you know,

1921
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:22,119
Billy to go to get the check mark, and then

1922
01:23:22,159 --> 01:23:23,119
we always come back.

1923
01:23:23,039 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 3: With the Owen title and then we go on, you know.

1924
01:23:26,119 --> 01:23:29,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the thing, Like I love Ausbury, but

1925
01:23:29,399 --> 01:23:31,119
I don't want to be sitting here just counting down

1926
01:23:31,159 --> 01:23:33,520
the months just waiting Osbury's returned.

1927
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 6: You know that that kind of it sucks.

1928
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:37,560
Speaker 2: And then it sucks for the title because, like you said,

1929
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,880
it's like they did with the Death Riders, were just like,

1930
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:42,720
all right, how are they gonna get through this one?

1931
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,359
We know who's winning, but how are we gonna get

1932
01:23:45,399 --> 01:23:46,079
to that point?

1933
01:23:46,279 --> 01:23:47,560
Speaker 6: And so forth and so on.

1934
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 2: So I think they're gonna He's gonna run it with

1935
01:23:51,119 --> 01:23:54,960
you know, the combination of Joe hangman and swerve for

1936
01:23:55,039 --> 01:23:57,399
a little bit. Yeah, they may try and throw a

1937
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:00,760
couple of new people in there. I do hope that

1938
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:04,239
they have the Omega match. I don't know how you

1939
01:24:04,399 --> 01:24:08,680
get through the Omega match with like a clean victory, so.

1940
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,399
Speaker 1: I was gonna yeah, but remember Jeff didn't win a

1941
01:24:13,399 --> 01:24:15,640
lot of his other stuff clean, like he's still him

1942
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,520
and Brian had a clean hour long iron the match

1943
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,479
went to overtime and then m Jeff hit him with

1944
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:23,520
a fucking like auction tank, right, so you know what's

1945
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:25,479
gonna happen is MGF is gonna take the din ring,

1946
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:26,439
punch him.

1947
01:24:26,359 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 3: In his gut and can't go oh no, my gut,

1948
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:35,520
and then we're gonna blade. He's gonna blade his abs

1949
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:37,079
and that MGFF gets the wind.

1950
01:24:37,159 --> 01:24:39,079
Speaker 1: So it doesn't have to be clean, right because he

1951
01:24:39,199 --> 01:24:40,920
is like back to trying to be a heel, even

1952
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:43,840
though like I don't know, man, he's still getting cheers

1953
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:45,880
so much. Like I it just worries me, like the

1954
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:47,840
first time they had to switch Hi babyface last time,

1955
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:49,399
because like everyone just ended up liking him. It's just

1956
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,520
luckily to swerve and hang in people like him. But

1957
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:54,880
I just feel like M Jeff's not getting that heel

1958
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,359
that heel vibe. He's acting like it, but just feels

1959
01:24:58,359 --> 01:25:01,039
like the crowd's still like, yeah, like you're just too fun.

1960
01:25:01,079 --> 01:25:03,039
Speaker 3: We don't want to boo you. So just I don't know.

1961
01:25:03,319 --> 01:25:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm curiously how that goes in the next little bit too,

1962
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,479
of like the crowd reaction to him.

1963
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, we will see. Is there anything else

1964
01:25:12,079 --> 01:25:15,960
aw's happened since World's Inn or since the Dynamite? I

1965
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:16,520
don't think so.

1966
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:19,279
Speaker 4: I don't really think so. They're kind of been a

1967
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:21,520
I mean, I guess Andrew coming back.

1968
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's back. We got to check something over there. Yeah,

1969
01:25:24,399 --> 01:25:25,159
I got that going on.

1970
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 1: Don Call's family is becoming the biggest faction of all

1971
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:32,000
fucking time, just like there's so many people. I do

1972
01:25:32,199 --> 01:25:34,960
like the idea of maybe Kyle Fletcher and Takeusha leaving,

1973
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,079
but I feel like there's a swerve in there of

1974
01:25:37,279 --> 01:25:39,880
one or the other turning on each other, And I

1975
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,119
really don't know which route because I could like, I

1976
01:25:42,159 --> 01:25:44,720
wouldn't mind them both leaving, but I could see a

1977
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:46,680
route where Kyle Fletcher's a baby face, but I could

1978
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,479
also see a route work Taketsha's a baby face, because

1979
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:51,000
again I think I.

1980
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:54,560
Speaker 4: Could more see Kyle being the face and Takeshta.

1981
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and to me, if they didn't do the Ocada thing,

1982
01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:59,560
I'd be thinking about Takesha.

1983
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 3: But yeah, to me, I think t K kind of

1984
01:26:02,359 --> 01:26:02,720
botched that.

1985
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,159
Speaker 1: Not only did have called a beat Takeshta, the first

1986
01:26:05,239 --> 01:26:07,680
guy in AW to beat Okada in a tournament is

1987
01:26:08,039 --> 01:26:10,079
just John Moxley, who like, yeah, I love Moxley, but

1988
01:26:10,279 --> 01:26:11,640
like Moxy didn't need that.

1989
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:14,159
Speaker 3: Moxley's a main man till like he retires.

1990
01:26:14,239 --> 01:26:14,399
Speaker 4: You know.

1991
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:16,520
Speaker 1: It's it's just like they kind of they kind of

1992
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:18,800
botched that Takeshta caught a story. I know they're gonna

1993
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:20,560
run it back, and I know they're gonna make it.

1994
01:26:21,239 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 3: What they're gonna do is probably at all in. They're

1995
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:23,319
gonna make.

1996
01:26:23,239 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 1: Takesha beat Ocada for the international title and tell me it's.

1997
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 3: A big deal. But it's like, yeah, you had the

1998
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,640
chance to make it like a real big deal.

1999
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 4: You know.

2000
01:26:32,279 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 3: So Takesha just lost the World Championship.

2001
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,680
Speaker 1: Now in New Japan, he's had a couple magic quality's good,

2002
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,479
but results wise not going good for Takeshta, you know.

2003
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:43,119
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'd be like, aw, right now. It's kind

2004
01:26:43,119 --> 01:26:45,960
of been there, kind of just like waiting period to

2005
01:26:46,039 --> 01:26:48,600
get to the because there's not really a pavor you

2006
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:49,399
for a while.

2007
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 1: And the Jags are currently in the playoffs right now,

2008
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,680
so Tony Conn's definitely scattered brain over there right now.

2009
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:57,520
He's thinking about them trying to beat the Bills right now.

2010
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:02,119
So okay, so we're going to our unless any other topic.

2011
01:27:02,159 --> 01:27:03,760
I didn't talk and bring up anything else.

2012
01:27:05,199 --> 01:27:06,600
Speaker 4: I think that's pretty cover.

2013
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:08,119
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's it all right.

2014
01:27:08,319 --> 01:27:12,319
Speaker 1: So we got the second annual Gimmick Awards. So what

2015
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:13,920
we're gonna do is we have I didn't put a

2016
01:27:14,039 --> 01:27:16,520
number on we got. I think over and I know ten.

2017
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,720
Maybe you'll close to twenty categories here, a whole mix

2018
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:22,079
of stuff. I'm gonna go from the bottom and then

2019
01:27:22,159 --> 01:27:23,800
go the top up because we're gonna leave match and

2020
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:25,600
Show for the year, you know, the bigger ones the last.

2021
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,079
But we added this one. I don't have the official name.

2022
01:27:28,119 --> 01:27:29,760
I suppose did you have an official name for the

2023
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:31,640
the Gear Award?

2024
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 4: I just put the best Gear. I didn't have a

2025
01:27:34,079 --> 01:27:37,560
funny meme name. I think we were thinking maybe an

2026
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:39,479
Incredible Live Show Charisma Award.

2027
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:43,159
Speaker 1: But right, yeah, right, And for me, I'll go first

2028
01:27:43,199 --> 01:27:45,399
because I suppose Discord. And for me, when I saw it,

2029
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:48,479
I was like, that was easily it five different ones.

2030
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:51,199
Speaker 3: I'm excited, hear. For me, I'm sure you have this.

2031
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:53,840
Ria's art the clown was like a that was a

2032
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:54,359
no brainer.

2033
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:55,079
Speaker 4: I love this.

2034
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:59,560
Speaker 3: What how is it out on your list? It looked great?

2035
01:28:01,039 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yeah, I loved that gear so much.

2036
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:07,439
It is so funny in the fucking w when michaels

2037
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,880
like this is based on art the clown. It's like

2038
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:13,479
a product that no one that I guarantee you five

2039
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,800
percent of the audience probably enjoys, like socially out of

2040
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,000
the family brand. It's like, oh, what's this from the

2041
01:28:19,079 --> 01:28:21,600
fact that they're selling like merch with Rion art the

2042
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:23,560
clown who's like a asalter.

2043
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 3: He's ripping people's like he's an awful person. But I

2044
01:28:27,039 --> 01:28:28,079
loved the gear.

2045
01:28:28,199 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 1: I loved even the draw like the mole, like it

2046
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:32,279
was fantastic. It is like a good gear this year.

2047
01:28:32,319 --> 01:28:33,960
But yeah, that was my number one.

2048
01:28:34,079 --> 01:28:37,039
Speaker 3: So I'll go to Dave first and then spos five,

2049
01:28:37,079 --> 01:28:38,560
So we'll leave him last for the gear here.

2050
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 6: So I'm sticking with Rhea but I'm going with uh

2051
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:45,279
the Joker who laughs.

2052
01:28:46,239 --> 01:28:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot about that one that she went at WrestleMania,

2053
01:28:51,079 --> 01:28:53,279
like that, the whole mask of it all.

2054
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 6: That was pretty dope.

2055
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:58,399
Speaker 3: Yeah that's a good one. Yeah, that's my one A

2056
01:28:58,520 --> 01:28:58,760
one B.

2057
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 1: You're right, I forgot about that one because I remember

2058
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:02,560
a couple of years ago she did like a Batman

2059
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:04,960
type of gear live, but it was like not main

2060
01:29:05,039 --> 01:29:07,479
event rha and the gear was like this looks more.

2061
01:29:07,399 --> 01:29:08,279
Speaker 3: Like a rap It was.

2062
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:11,279
Speaker 4: That was like the wrestling and one where they're like

2063
01:29:11,399 --> 01:29:12,720
Batman and Catwan.

2064
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, but her Batman gear was like oh yeah, like

2065
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:17,439
it was just like it was.

2066
01:29:19,199 --> 01:29:19,399
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2067
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 2: So I do have a second choice, and that would

2068
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:28,479
be uh for Trickling with his green lantern gear.

2069
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:30,199
Speaker 3: That was pretty cool. Yeah, you know in the ring

2070
01:29:30,279 --> 01:29:31,960
and everything that I said that, I.

2071
01:29:32,119 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 4: Liked his uh like the dull or nothing like the

2072
01:29:35,079 --> 01:29:35,800
Predator gear.

2073
01:29:36,279 --> 01:29:38,520
Speaker 3: Predator gear is good. Yeah, He's always got some good gear.

2074
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:40,680
He's James Gunn liked his his his post.

2075
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 1: But when he had the ring out, at first I

2076
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:44,800
thought it was MGF and I'm like, what the hell

2077
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:46,359
aren't we doing this Bendino match.

2078
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 3: Later I was like Okay, it's.

2079
01:29:49,359 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 4: Ring though, like even he does still like well, it's like,

2080
01:29:53,159 --> 01:29:55,640
well I want it, so I want to Yeah yeah.

2081
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so du they for the first years built up

2082
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:00,079
like who's gonna beat m Jeff for this ring? And

2083
01:30:00,119 --> 01:30:02,239
they're like, ah, nobody's gonna beat over for the ring,

2084
01:30:02,319 --> 01:30:04,239
you know, so we'll just keep it. So all right,

2085
01:30:04,239 --> 01:30:05,720
I suppose you got five what do you got cooking

2086
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:06,079
over there?

2087
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:10,159
Speaker 4: Okay, So for these weren't really in any order, but

2088
01:30:10,399 --> 01:30:14,199
I'll just say I had I had aj styles his

2089
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:23,520
TNA style from Crown the Shorts. Yeah. Then then I

2090
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:27,239
just had all of Kyle Fletcher's gears just says one,

2091
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:28,319
just says one.

2092
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:32,079
Speaker 1: Everything that's going the jacket, everything, He's got some good stuff.

2093
01:30:32,279 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 4: Yeah. Then I had j C. Jane her Evolution gear,

2094
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:39,079
which was like all white. This is her most like

2095
01:30:39,279 --> 01:30:42,520
uh like, because the kind of the thing with j C.

2096
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:45,960
Jan is that the character is secretly just the it's

2097
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:50,399
supposed to be, like the the Shawn Michaels like rockers style,

2098
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:54,239
like like there's been so such She's like, oh yeah,

2099
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:57,000
it's like I'm the best rock star I know besides

2100
01:30:57,079 --> 01:30:59,399
Shawn Michaels. And this was like the most like it

2101
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:03,640
was all with the red round sunglasses, like with the

2102
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:04,359
gold like.

2103
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:08,239
Speaker 2: Uh, then I.

2104
01:31:08,399 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 4: Had Charlotte Flair with this WrestleMania level gear on a

2105
01:31:13,039 --> 01:31:16,239
random SmackDown. I can send it in the in the

2106
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:21,680
chat on Twitter so you guys can see it. Yeah, yeah,

2107
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:25,039
a link. It should be an Instagram link. I think

2108
01:31:26,119 --> 01:31:28,039
to just this gear that she wore late on a

2109
01:31:28,159 --> 01:31:31,720
random SmackDown. Yeah, I have a whole notes Amos stuff.

2110
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:34,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, why she busting this on smack and this is.

2111
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:37,159
Speaker 4: The only time she rolls for a random smack though.

2112
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:39,239
Speaker 3: Did they like win the title that night or what?

2113
01:31:40,279 --> 01:31:42,399
Speaker 4: This is just like I think this might have been

2114
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:45,920
their first match as a tag team maybe, but yeah,

2115
01:31:46,119 --> 01:31:48,960
she just woreless on and she doesn't repeat gears ever,

2116
01:31:49,079 --> 01:31:49,720
I don't think so.

2117
01:31:50,079 --> 01:31:53,199
Speaker 1: I respect you this gear on other I will screen

2118
01:31:53,279 --> 01:31:56,439
Shaircase even watches after fact. It's yeah, it's gold gear.

2119
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:57,920
She almost got like a big crown in the back.

2120
01:31:58,199 --> 01:32:00,840
I respect that. Another pet peeve the T shirt wrestling

2121
01:32:01,199 --> 01:32:05,199
I always hates me, always regularly. I hate people when

2122
01:32:05,199 --> 01:32:07,840
they wear the wrestman gear on the raws back then

2123
01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:10,000
after I hate it. I hate it, hate it. I

2124
01:32:10,119 --> 01:32:11,600
know he paid a lot of money for it. I

2125
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:13,399
don't want to see it on WRAW. I don't want

2126
01:32:13,399 --> 01:32:15,960
to see like, bring a second set of gear. Just

2127
01:32:16,039 --> 01:32:17,119
bring a second set gear.

2128
01:32:17,239 --> 01:32:18,319
Speaker 3: MS was always so bad for that.

2129
01:32:18,359 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 1: He'd wear his wrestling and big jackets like no, dude,

2130
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,760
like that's WrestleMania. It'll get their recent. I hate when

2131
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:26,640
people wear the WrestleMania gear again. But yeah, I respect

2132
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:28,000
her for always not doubling the gear.

2133
01:32:28,119 --> 01:32:30,279
Speaker 4: So and that one was the King Troy, so I

2134
01:32:30,359 --> 01:32:34,279
believe that's also who does the seths gear and jackets

2135
01:32:34,279 --> 01:32:37,920
and stuff like that. And my number one was Mercedes

2136
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:41,079
Monnet all in with the huge cape with all the

2137
01:32:41,199 --> 01:32:44,960
names of the people's being the whole cowboy look with

2138
01:32:45,079 --> 01:32:47,239
the white and gold. That was that was my favorite

2139
01:32:47,239 --> 01:32:49,039
gear this year. And she said some wild it was

2140
01:32:49,159 --> 01:32:51,840
very different than like anything she's ever wore before.

2141
01:32:52,319 --> 01:32:54,680
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's the thing she did a big time

2142
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:56,359
this year where it feels like every two months she

2143
01:32:56,359 --> 01:32:58,359
would like switch up the style of gear. And it's like,

2144
01:32:58,439 --> 01:32:59,680
I'm not saying it's bad that he's just like she

2145
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:02,399
would have a different type of like like theme or

2146
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:03,079
gimmick going on.

2147
01:33:03,239 --> 01:33:05,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, that was a really good one, so good

2148
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:06,199
shout out there.

2149
01:33:06,279 --> 01:33:09,880
Speaker 1: So all right, David, I'll start with you for chills,

2150
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:14,039
with the Chills Award the most quotable line of the year,

2151
01:33:14,159 --> 01:33:14,880
I will get the.

2152
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:20,319
Speaker 3: There you go or best promo. So, yeah, what did

2153
01:33:20,399 --> 01:33:20,840
you have here?

2154
01:33:22,039 --> 01:33:27,159
Speaker 2: So up until recently it was a punk one, and

2155
01:33:27,239 --> 01:33:29,880
I wish I still had it written down because I

2156
01:33:30,159 --> 01:33:33,199
erased it once I put over there. So now it

2157
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:37,600
is braun Breaker and Punk's promo battle from was it

2158
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:38,439
two weeks ago?

2159
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:38,720
Speaker 6: Like?

2160
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:42,079
Speaker 2: And they just went at it, and he breaker mentioning

2161
01:33:42,239 --> 01:33:45,680
like like you were out here trying to wrestle in

2162
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:48,319
the indies to remake a name for yourself, and I

2163
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:50,039
was playing in the NFL.

2164
01:33:50,159 --> 01:33:51,119
Speaker 6: We are not the same.

2165
01:33:51,199 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 2: And I was like, god damn, Like that was the

2166
01:33:54,119 --> 01:33:58,479
best I've seen of braun unleashing. I was like afterwards, I.

2167
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:01,520
Speaker 6: Was just like, that was one hell of a promo

2168
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:02,279
by this kid.

2169
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that was a good one.

2170
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:07,359
Speaker 1: Okay, So I got I got honorable mentions and I

2171
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:11,319
got my winner here. I really enjoyed Hangan's victory promo

2172
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:13,399
the night or the week after all in that was good.

2173
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:15,840
I hate putting this one here because it is a meme,

2174
01:34:16,359 --> 01:34:19,600
but like the Tony storm Ria may like backstage thing

2175
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:21,640
was great until people like memed On.

2176
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:24,399
Speaker 3: Every time fucking Blake Monroe will like.

2177
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 1: Trip and they'd be like, oh, I've never heard of

2178
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:29,039
you know, Mariah Monroe ever again, whatever happened to you.

2179
01:34:29,159 --> 01:34:31,319
Speaker 3: It's like the actual line though for the promo it

2180
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:33,520
was good, and it was also Mariah's.

2181
01:34:33,079 --> 01:34:35,359
Speaker 1: Reaction that the way she like sat back, and it

2182
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:37,359
worked for the feud because like the last time she

2183
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:39,840
saw right, so like before I got memed On, it

2184
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:40,800
was like higher for me.

2185
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:41,600
Speaker 3: It's not their fault.

2186
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:45,159
Speaker 1: And then after that was just a bunch of lines

2187
01:34:45,199 --> 01:34:46,720
from the scene of pipe Bomb. I didn't want put

2188
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:48,319
his number one because it was kind of a reduct

2189
01:34:48,359 --> 01:34:51,279
but it was still really good. But then at number one,

2190
01:34:52,119 --> 01:34:55,880
I got Cody's Night before WrestleMania two Nights before restu

2191
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:58,119
May one. The specific line is when he I can't

2192
01:34:58,119 --> 01:35:01,439
remember I'm paraphrasing, but he said something about like looking

2193
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:04,359
at your palest sting from star K ninety seven, and

2194
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:06,920
people'll know, yeah, that's like.

2195
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:08,319
Speaker 3: A huge deal because like.

2196
01:35:10,079 --> 01:35:13,720
Speaker 1: When Conrad and Bischoff did their podcast, because ninety seven

2197
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:15,800
had like a big it was like their Traps Scott moment,

2198
01:35:16,159 --> 01:35:18,640
like they had Hogan actually pin a bunch of bad

2199
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:20,880
stuff when Sting finally beat Hogan and he's listening to

2200
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:23,199
all these reasons like, oh, Steve didn't seamright, he is off,

2201
01:35:23,239 --> 01:35:25,199
he was in the best shape, he wasn't tan enough,

2202
01:35:25,239 --> 01:35:27,960
and Connor, yeah, it wasn't.

2203
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:29,640
Speaker 3: Tan enough, and like that was the whole thing, which

2204
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:31,960
never made sense to me, because it's like the Sting

2205
01:35:32,079 --> 01:35:34,920
character doesn't need to be fucking tan, like he's a ghoul,

2206
01:35:35,199 --> 01:35:38,039
Like what are you talking about? But there's two reasons

2207
01:35:38,079 --> 01:35:41,199
one that line. But remember people always forget.

2208
01:35:41,279 --> 01:35:43,399
Speaker 1: This is why I still will give Cody wrote some

2209
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:45,439
credit for when he goes in there against Roman later

2210
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:45,920
on this year.

2211
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 3: If it happens that crowd was booing Cody the whole

2212
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:49,680
way through and.

2213
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 4: At this like for the Berlin match when they showed

2214
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:58,199
him walking into the arena, I'd say it was like

2215
01:35:58,399 --> 01:36:01,960
ninety five percent booze. When he made his entrance, they

2216
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:04,800
were booing but singing the song. By the end of

2217
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:07,880
the Steel Cage when he's going like with Drew, it

2218
01:36:08,039 --> 01:36:10,319
was full on fifty to fifty, let's go Cody.

2219
01:36:10,399 --> 01:36:13,279
Speaker 3: Cody suck and that's like he can turn a crowd

2220
01:36:13,399 --> 01:36:16,000
on saying forever. But that promo was amazing because when

2221
01:36:16,159 --> 01:36:18,479
he got that ring and they were heavily like, oh man,

2222
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:21,640
like they want seeing it seventeen it's over.

2223
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 1: And when he cut that promo and he flipped everybody

2224
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:27,640
as like yeah, his dad would be so super fucking proud,

2225
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:31,039
like next to his original what do you want to

2226
01:36:31,079 --> 01:36:34,039
talk about? Promo, that might be his best promo just

2227
01:36:34,039 --> 01:36:36,159
because he flipped everybody when he should enough.

2228
01:36:36,199 --> 01:36:37,760
Speaker 3: So that was my chills moment.

2229
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 1: And I'll say it for like I said, line specifically

2230
01:36:40,039 --> 01:36:42,600
is looking like Sting from Star K ninety seven.

2231
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:48,279
Speaker 4: So oh yeah, I have some like like meme answers

2232
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:51,960
and like real answers. That's my top meme for like

2233
01:36:52,199 --> 01:36:55,840
most quotable thing of the year has to be you

2234
01:36:56,520 --> 01:37:00,199
like my fire Like that was the number one saying

2235
01:37:00,279 --> 01:37:04,159
this year. Everyone used it for anyone, like the Coke

2236
01:37:04,319 --> 01:37:07,479
Versus Mocks highlight video, like that's legendary.

2237
01:37:09,119 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 1: I agree with you, it's so funny. I forgot to

2238
01:37:11,039 --> 01:37:13,359
send it to you guys. But before Taylor had a

2239
01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:14,960
second baby and they were going to the gym, you know,

2240
01:37:15,039 --> 01:37:17,039
the second time we were there. They were playing it

2241
01:37:17,159 --> 01:37:19,800
on the fucking speakers at the gym and I could

2242
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:22,279
not stop laughing of like, who was working out to

2243
01:37:22,399 --> 01:37:25,680
this song? But I do we people stopped doing the.

2244
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:30,640
Speaker 3: What is the name that song? I'll say, yeah, people

2245
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:33,159
stop doing the outstanding memes, bring them back. I love

2246
01:37:33,239 --> 01:37:35,680
anytime someone on my feed sucks and they make the

2247
01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:36,720
outstanding video.

2248
01:37:37,239 --> 01:37:40,079
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of that. So and I'm gonna use

2249
01:37:40,119 --> 01:37:42,239
that for Gantlin next year. People don't bring it back, so,

2250
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:43,960
but yeah, that's a good one to shout out.

2251
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:49,399
Speaker 4: Then I had for my actual picks. I'd say I

2252
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:53,479
had the CM punk bald fraud of promo after the

2253
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:57,720
elimination Chamber where you just like went off on on

2254
01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:01,359
Dwayne and seeing it and a bunch of well uh

2255
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:08,720
good one. Then I had this like, well, this honorable

2256
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:10,840
mention to I Want Your Soul. It was not a

2257
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:13,239
good promo, but it was a memorial promo.

2258
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:15,640
Speaker 3: It was a memory that's like in the meme WI.

2259
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 1: It was a memorable pro for that I Want Your

2260
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:19,960
Soul because that did get a reaction from the crowd,

2261
01:38:20,039 --> 01:38:21,840
And yeah, what we could have had, But.

2262
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:26,319
Speaker 4: My actual like top promo or Quobo end of the year.

2263
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:29,840
I have renowned as I bury mediocrity, which is the

2264
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:34,239
Sena London promo against Cody where they fully went at

2265
01:38:34,279 --> 01:38:36,720
each other where he said like you know he was

2266
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:40,560
getting stealing the billionaire's son's money and like he buried

2267
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:43,520
the nexus and he'd do it again and stuff like that.

2268
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:47,239
Like that was I think the best heel promo scenic.

2269
01:38:47,319 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah again, like I'm still fine.

2270
01:38:52,279 --> 01:38:54,760
Speaker 1: I think I'm fine with the scena heel turn up

2271
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:59,079
until the theme, the Fiend theme hits at me. I

2272
01:38:59,119 --> 01:39:01,439
think we're still I think there's still some good nuggets

2273
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:05,479
in that first few months there. So I suppose I'll

2274
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:07,720
go right back to you best moment, so change from

2275
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:09,880
last year it was no resting moment, but now could

2276
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:12,199
be a match, promo segment, et cetera. So what did

2277
01:39:12,239 --> 01:39:14,159
you have your your best moment or a few best

2278
01:39:14,159 --> 01:39:15,279
moments of the year this year?

2279
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:19,279
Speaker 4: I have five, So I went like, for best moment,

2280
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:23,840
it's purely strictly the moment, like anything else could have

2281
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:26,840
happened afterwards, and the moment was good. I feel like

2282
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:28,960
you can probably tell what my number one is gonna

2283
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:32,239
be in this case. But for number five I had.

2284
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:35,239
I just had it written down as we want Charlotte,

2285
01:39:35,279 --> 01:39:39,159
which is like from Evolution when she started actually getting cheered,

2286
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:42,399
like I just felt like that was a great moment,

2287
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:44,960
like when she was like they just started, like a

2288
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:47,279
whole crowd just started chanting that they want Charlotte in

2289
01:39:47,359 --> 01:39:50,319
that tag match, and that started really the whole face

2290
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:53,760
run of her this year, and I think that's the

2291
01:39:54,239 --> 01:39:57,439
that's the moment I remember just watching live like, oh,

2292
01:39:57,640 --> 01:40:02,000
like like everyone is chatting we want shortly in this moment, and.

2293
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:04,680
Speaker 1: I probably, like, I can't speak for it, but I

2294
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:06,319
feel like that's probably one of her favorite moments too,

2295
01:40:06,319 --> 01:40:08,800
because it felt like he was kind of so very much.

2296
01:40:09,199 --> 01:40:11,680
It was pretty mad all way around, right, and even

2297
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:14,760
the beginning with Tifty in those promos so and being good.

2298
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 4: So yeah. Then for I had the Naomi money in

2299
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:22,000
the bank cash in just and because just after that

2300
01:40:22,399 --> 01:40:25,359
amazing match, like when when you have kicked or when

2301
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:28,720
Ria kicked out of that last Moon saw, I was like, like,

2302
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:31,279
what is gonna end this match? Because it's like they've

2303
01:40:31,359 --> 01:40:34,640
done everything, Like I was just like, just how are

2304
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:37,600
they even gonna end this match? And yeah, Naomi cashing

2305
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,279
in that was just a great moment to end all

2306
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:46,880
sit three. I've said I had Hangman wins the aw

2307
01:40:47,119 --> 01:40:50,960
title and the whole like run ins with Brian and Darby,

2308
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:54,079
like coming down on the ropes. I think it was

2309
01:40:54,319 --> 01:40:56,720
a great moment, you know, him finally opening the case

2310
01:40:57,119 --> 01:40:59,000
and like I said, the mom I loved that the

2311
01:40:59,399 --> 01:41:02,760
title said Brian's side plates on it, like I took

2312
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:05,840
and just put in the briefcase right away. And yeah,

2313
01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:08,239
that was a big moment. And that's that's one that

2314
01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:11,079
I'd probably put on the list of doesn't really matter

2315
01:41:11,199 --> 01:41:14,760
what happened afterwards, and in regards to this awards.

2316
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 1: Just yes, I agree because it afterwards taking down a

2317
01:41:18,039 --> 01:41:18,640
little bit of an.

2318
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:24,560
Speaker 4: Entrepant, you know, there was no hook yet. And then too,

2319
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:29,199
I have the aj Lee return to the day just

2320
01:41:29,479 --> 01:41:32,439
for when we've already covered a bunch just this year.

2321
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:36,039
But that was just a huge moment, even if definitely

2322
01:41:36,279 --> 01:41:38,039
teased it a lot to the point where it was

2323
01:41:38,119 --> 01:41:41,479
like it's definitely happening. It wasn't like a surprise moment,

2324
01:41:42,119 --> 01:41:46,680
but it was still a great, great moment and my

2325
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:48,840
number one, I mean, I feel like you can pretty

2326
01:41:49,119 --> 01:41:51,640
much tell what it's gonna be with the stuff I

2327
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:54,000
put around it, but it has to be the scene

2328
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:57,920
of healter and just in that moment, like for that night,

2329
01:41:58,039 --> 01:41:59,920
that was like the greatest thing I'd ever seen.

2330
01:42:01,319 --> 01:42:03,600
Speaker 1: I was I thought somewhere EO win at Mania might

2331
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:05,840
get on your list too, because if if you were

2332
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:07,119
such an Illo believer.

2333
01:42:07,319 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 4: I want to do something with Re and EO, I

2334
01:42:11,079 --> 01:42:16,560
generally know what I would put it above these this year. Yeah,

2335
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:19,319
there's definitely there's some categories will go to where it's

2336
01:42:19,399 --> 01:42:23,439
like I've left stuff off because I feel like they

2337
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:25,239
might do bigger things this year.

2338
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair, right, David. What about you?

2339
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 2: Oh well, I's already named my first and second choice,

2340
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:37,560
so I will just rehash that. My first dress would

2341
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:40,279
be Hangman winning the title back. It was just it

2342
01:42:40,399 --> 01:42:43,760
was a great moment. It was like a good moment

2343
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:45,920
for aw as a whole. It was the right booking

2344
01:42:46,039 --> 01:42:49,359
decision and everything else. Like you said, the side played

2345
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:52,039
still being the same, everything from the start of that

2346
01:42:52,159 --> 01:42:54,199
match to the end of it, Hangman bringing back the

2347
01:42:54,319 --> 01:42:57,520
old music, just everything with that which is great, and

2348
01:42:57,680 --> 01:43:00,760
then a j Lee skipping down the eye. We knew

2349
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:03,680
what was coming. It was telegraphed the entire time, but

2350
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:07,880
still seeing that return and seeing Seam Punks just super

2351
01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:11,439
happy face, like anytime she's on screen. That man is

2352
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:16,239
just a whole different version of seeam Punk and you'll

2353
01:43:16,279 --> 01:43:18,680
love to see it. Like that's the happiest I ever

2354
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:22,000
see that man and her skipping down the aisle, everything

2355
01:43:22,079 --> 01:43:23,000
with her and Becky, it.

2356
01:43:23,079 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 6: Was just it was great.

2357
01:43:26,319 --> 01:43:28,840
Speaker 1: H Yeah for me, I have to reiterate those again

2358
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:31,920
for myself. The only I think what other different ones

2359
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:33,680
do I have? But yeah, I guess two.

2360
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:34,279
Speaker 3: Again showed out.

2361
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:37,039
Speaker 1: I guess it's the moment because I wouldn't have it

2362
01:43:37,119 --> 01:43:39,479
in my matches year and I guess I can specifically

2363
01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:41,039
say this moment, but I think it's more the ending

2364
01:43:41,079 --> 01:43:44,039
of the match when Sina comes out with Cody on

2365
01:43:44,159 --> 01:43:46,560
the Cody Vader and he has it in the AA.

2366
01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:49,000
But I think just like that last five minute stretch

2367
01:43:49,079 --> 01:43:52,680
up Super Cody versus Super Sena, them delivering super finishers

2368
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:55,800
to each other, just that like that, like Dragon Ball Z,

2369
01:43:56,079 --> 01:43:57,800
like Man of Steel sort of fight.

2370
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 3: Then was great. I'm a big lover this match. I

2371
01:44:01,239 --> 01:44:05,560
loved the ending of Mariah Mavers Tony Storm, specifically, like

2372
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:08,439
the end and they go out. It's a whole Hollywood school.

2373
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:09,399
It's such a great way.

2374
01:44:09,399 --> 01:44:11,960
Speaker 1: Because Mariah May is leaving, that still should have went

2375
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:14,399
on fucking last. Tony would have saved so much trouble.

2376
01:44:14,399 --> 01:44:16,359
I don't care that Mariah was leaving. It was a

2377
01:44:16,399 --> 01:44:17,520
perfect kind of ending there.

2378
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:19,720
Speaker 3: And then yeah, it was a j Lee I had that.

2379
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:22,439
And then the Hangman Wins is my number one because

2380
01:44:23,159 --> 01:44:23,760
not only.

2381
01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 1: Was it like ended up being a good story and

2382
01:44:26,079 --> 01:44:27,520
it was the end of the death writers, like the

2383
01:44:27,680 --> 01:44:28,319
main thing there.

2384
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:29,439
Speaker 3: Hangman is just.

2385
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:32,920
Speaker 1: One of those vital pieces and it's whatever you feel.

2386
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:35,000
That first title run was also, and the second title

2387
01:44:35,039 --> 01:44:36,319
run maybe not I was great either, but even the

2388
01:44:36,359 --> 01:44:40,279
first one was just like it's not remembered fondly because

2389
01:44:40,319 --> 01:44:42,359
everything that fall right because it ended with him in

2390
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:44,840
the Punk promo, and then from there on it became

2391
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:47,039
the Punk and Bucks and then it became all this

2392
01:44:47,119 --> 01:44:49,359
stuff with everybody and the brands got divided a bit,

2393
01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:52,199
like there's a lot of stuff that he indirectly did

2394
01:44:52,279 --> 01:44:54,560
by saying it promo. I'm not saying he's wrong, because

2395
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:56,880
Punk Young Punk did that many times, going off script,

2396
01:44:56,920 --> 01:44:59,079
and he just couldn't handle the heat there, but I

2397
01:44:59,159 --> 01:45:01,800
think it's just it is like a oh yeah, and

2398
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:04,680
even after like Tony kind of punished Hayman for a while,

2399
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:07,119
Hayman took like a he took a lot of losses

2400
01:45:07,159 --> 01:45:08,800
in those six months after, which, like I'm not saying

2401
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:10,520
it was wrong thing because like, yeah, maybe you should

2402
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:11,079
have done that, but.

2403
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:12,479
Speaker 3: This felt bigger.

2404
01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:15,560
Speaker 1: And this, even though I don't like the decision of

2405
01:45:16,319 --> 01:45:18,960
Hangman losing to Joe and then whatnot, I think that

2406
01:45:19,279 --> 01:45:21,680
is not good booking. I think at least with the

2407
01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:24,319
last time when he lost the title, it did feel like,

2408
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:27,399
oh man, he's like gone down a step right. The

2409
01:45:27,479 --> 01:45:30,119
actual title win against Kenny was a great story. Luckily

2410
01:45:30,199 --> 01:45:33,640
Hayman's title winds always a great story, but something felt off,

2411
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:35,079
like when he lost it, it felt like he was

2412
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:37,399
really back to the mid card where now it still

2413
01:45:37,399 --> 01:45:39,920
feels like Hayman's always gonna be like upper mid card

2414
01:45:40,319 --> 01:45:41,159
main event level.

2415
01:45:41,239 --> 01:45:43,319
Speaker 3: So what's doing all in? Who knows. I'm sure there's

2416
01:45:43,319 --> 01:45:46,439
gonna run him his swerve back, but we'll see.

2417
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:49,680
Speaker 1: So, uh, the next is, so you think your special

2418
01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:51,439
war few of the year, so I can just circle

2419
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:53,439
in And when I said al ready I gave it

2420
01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:54,399
to Tony Mariah May.

2421
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:56,600
Speaker 3: I agree with that. S Pubs there was a ton

2422
01:45:57,359 --> 01:45:57,760
so did I.

2423
01:46:00,079 --> 01:46:02,920
Speaker 4: This year was pretty weak in terms of it. I

2424
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:06,359
feel like every feud that was even if they were good,

2425
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:09,319
had something bad in it that made you not think

2426
01:46:09,359 --> 01:46:10,600
it was a good feud.

2427
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:13,279
Speaker 1: Even like I, like I talked about earlier. I remember

2428
01:46:13,359 --> 01:46:15,319
we're talking about when Drew gotwin smacked, and I think

2429
01:46:15,319 --> 01:46:16,880
we're all like, oh, Drew and Cody that could be

2430
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:19,159
really good and has been like necessarily bad but didn't

2431
01:46:19,239 --> 01:46:21,119
hit the I don't hit the heights.

2432
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:22,039
Speaker 3: That we thought it was going to.

2433
01:46:22,279 --> 01:46:24,960
Speaker 1: Especially remember that first pro when Droom came back and

2434
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:26,880
he's like, no one checked on me while I was gone,

2435
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:29,159
and he was talking about how he wants Cody, like.

2436
01:46:29,319 --> 01:46:30,239
Speaker 3: It felt like they didn't have.

2437
01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:33,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it doesn't feel like they had any that

2438
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:36,119
connection again, it just felt like they were like square

2439
01:46:36,159 --> 01:46:37,720
one and same thing like Cody and Sina.

2440
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:38,279
Speaker 3: It felt like.

2441
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:41,319
Speaker 1: There's either just feuds that were good or they could

2442
01:46:41,359 --> 01:46:43,159
have been great, and there was some stumbles along the

2443
01:46:43,199 --> 01:46:46,560
wa because even Hangman and the Rioters, it's like would.

2444
01:46:46,319 --> 01:46:51,199
Speaker 4: Say even like like oh Mega versus Okada, it was like, oh,

2445
01:46:51,319 --> 01:46:52,920
this is good, and then Don Kelly.

2446
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:56,199
Speaker 1: Shit, yeah, exactly right. It's like, oh, there's so much history,

2447
01:46:56,279 --> 01:46:58,800
we don't need anybody else. Oh Don Kels's screwdriver great.

2448
01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:00,600
So yeah, I think that worked out.

2449
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:02,960
Speaker 3: I agree with s Bub's like your critique has always

2450
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:04,479
been like, when May won the title was just like,

2451
01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:06,840
we're waiting till Tony get back. So that was kind

2452
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:09,479
of a lull in there. But what happened after that, lalls,

2453
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:11,800
We got the fucking og Tony storm back.

2454
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:13,800
Speaker 4: For a bit and that was a great to give

2455
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:17,239
it back because the stuff of her waiting for Tony

2456
01:47:17,319 --> 01:47:20,319
to come back was technically in twenty twenty four, So

2457
01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:21,119
I'll give it up.

2458
01:47:21,439 --> 01:47:22,359
Speaker 3: Right, I guess.

2459
01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:24,640
Speaker 1: So, yeah, you're right, but yeah we got that, we

2460
01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:26,760
got the ending. So yeah, that's where I went. But no,

2461
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:29,079
I agreed with that assessment that overall, not not much

2462
01:47:29,159 --> 01:47:32,880
in there. So so we're all there, David, who's your

2463
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:35,439
most improved wrestler of twenty twenty five?

2464
01:47:37,039 --> 01:47:40,319
Speaker 2: Oh that one was a hard one for me, and

2465
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:44,560
it so and I'm going to say this from a

2466
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:47,960
different perspective, and it's not off of in ring. It

2467
01:47:48,079 --> 01:47:50,760
is off of character work, and I am going to

2468
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:53,720
say Charlotte because Charlotte I.

2469
01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:59,479
Speaker 6: Know, Rick, She's always been good in the ring.

2470
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:02,720
Speaker 4: To me, I mean for what you were saying for

2471
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:04,680
the character, Like when you're saying like, oh, it's not

2472
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:06,039
because n ring, it's character.

2473
01:48:06,119 --> 01:48:12,399
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, Charlotte adapted and took and transformed,

2474
01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:16,359
like everything about her character made herself relatable in senses

2475
01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:19,600
that we've never seen from her and just in my

2476
01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:22,279
mind for the first time, and I believe her career,

2477
01:48:22,399 --> 01:48:25,199
she what she is, the complete package. I believe her

2478
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:27,640
she can go in the ring like there's no doubt

2479
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:29,760
about it. But I also there are times I'm like,

2480
01:48:30,279 --> 01:48:33,239
I want to see her succeed. I want to, like,

2481
01:48:33,439 --> 01:48:34,199
I believe in.

2482
01:48:34,279 --> 01:48:38,600
Speaker 6: The character of Charlotte and it's not just your baby flair.

2483
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:43,960
Speaker 3: Perspective. Yeah, I get that, Okay, that spops who you got.

2484
01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:47,359
Speaker 4: I went with you know something I talked about a lot,

2485
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:50,119
probably her same reason I went with Raquel, like just

2486
01:48:50,239 --> 01:48:52,800
the whole like the Kevin Nash means of it, but

2487
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:55,800
they are true. I feel like like she has like

2488
01:48:56,239 --> 01:48:59,079
that is what she needed to do, like just work,

2489
01:48:59,279 --> 01:49:02,960
like she has the size compared to pretty much everyone

2490
01:49:03,039 --> 01:49:05,000
on the roster and you need to you need to

2491
01:49:05,079 --> 01:49:07,119
work like that. I feel like she really did do that.

2492
01:49:07,159 --> 01:49:09,199
And she's had a lot of matches. I mean a

2493
01:49:09,279 --> 01:49:11,199
match I don't have on my top matches of the year.

2494
01:49:11,239 --> 01:49:14,800
But one that was really really great was that Bianca

2495
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:19,720
and Naomi versus Living Raquel tax a year. Yeah, and

2496
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:22,720
she's had a bunch of other matches. I really liked

2497
01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:25,680
this year and uh, I thought it was good. So

2498
01:49:26,239 --> 01:49:30,640
and I feel like, especially this year, I feel like

2499
01:49:31,159 --> 01:49:33,560
if she splits, I'm curious if they are going to

2500
01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:36,199
have her split from the judgment day that they're kind

2501
01:49:36,239 --> 01:49:38,880
of building with Live and Rock Sand and stuff like that.

2502
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:42,199
I'm curious if it's going to be a big singles

2503
01:49:42,319 --> 01:49:43,119
type year for her.

2504
01:49:44,159 --> 01:49:47,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very curious to see which way she goes.

2505
01:49:47,720 --> 01:49:50,640
I hope they I think the better route. We've talked

2506
01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:52,239
this before is to get Live and dom as a

2507
01:49:52,279 --> 01:49:55,279
babyface and have Live in her do those heats what I.

2508
01:49:55,279 --> 01:49:57,640
Speaker 4: Thought, But then Live just came back as like a

2509
01:49:57,760 --> 01:49:58,359
full heel.

2510
01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:01,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and her, So it's like, I'm interested. I think

2511
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:03,079
it's just that they don't have plans to break them

2512
01:50:03,159 --> 01:50:05,319
up anytime soon soon, Like I think they're gonna hint

2513
01:50:05,399 --> 01:50:08,119
at it, but the same way as like what Finn

2514
01:50:08,159 --> 01:50:12,079
and Dom have been like breaking. Yeah, so it's like

2515
01:50:12,119 --> 01:50:13,199
that's why I thing it's gonna happen.

2516
01:50:13,319 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 1: So yeah, Okay, I got another lady, and I think

2517
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:19,359
mine might be just as hot as a take I

2518
01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:23,880
got Marina Shaffir. I could not give two shits about

2519
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:27,359
Marina Shaffir for her almost entire career. I thought she

2520
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:31,319
had nothing going on. She was very three star in

2521
01:50:31,399 --> 01:50:33,600
the ring at like her best was a three star.

2522
01:50:33,680 --> 01:50:36,520
Obviously she's an ngxty. For a bit, it was just, oh,

2523
01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:38,479
she's a signing because she's ron of his friend and

2524
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:40,880
she's Roddy's wife, and I think I think I've heard

2525
01:50:41,119 --> 01:50:43,279
people like her, but just like as a ring talent,

2526
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:46,520
no character, no promo, no great ring work, just I'm

2527
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:49,039
an m fighter, right, And even then, I think her

2528
01:50:49,079 --> 01:50:52,399
ringwork actually has gone better because she's gone to this character.

2529
01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:54,399
I'd say the top tier is when she was in

2530
01:50:54,479 --> 01:50:56,960
the fucking Women's War Games or whatever, Blood and Guts, like,

2531
01:50:57,239 --> 01:50:58,199
she seemed like a killer.

2532
01:50:58,279 --> 01:51:00,479
Speaker 3: She seemed like like when she did that spot when

2533
01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:02,239
she stepped on the glass and was starting to kick

2534
01:51:02,319 --> 01:51:05,000
people it's like I am scared of Marina Shafir now

2535
01:51:05,039 --> 01:51:06,359
in real life I always would have been. But this

2536
01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:09,000
is like the presence that she has of when she

2537
01:51:09,159 --> 01:51:12,279
walks in Moxley, the tank tops, the key, everything. When

2538
01:51:12,319 --> 01:51:15,079
Moxley does lose just those little facials, she gives like

2539
01:51:15,479 --> 01:51:18,279
she is just as to this version of Moxley, she

2540
01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:20,359
is more vital to him than any of the other

2541
01:51:20,479 --> 01:51:23,199
guys are. She's just like it would feel like his

2542
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:26,439
act is missing something if she isn't there. And I said,

2543
01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:28,359
I shouldn't get so excited for on her and Roddy's

2544
01:51:28,399 --> 01:51:31,039
face off, but it's like and even earlier this year,

2545
01:51:31,119 --> 01:51:33,600
the two times were last time they just fought, but

2546
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:37,159
the last time I think it was this year if not,

2547
01:51:37,319 --> 01:51:39,119
but it's the first time Moxley and Roddy fought.

2548
01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:41,279
Speaker 1: And Roddy went to hit mox and she walked in

2549
01:51:41,319 --> 01:51:43,279
the wave of him, and she was like kind of torn,

2550
01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:45,399
like she's happy to see Robbie but not like it's

2551
01:51:45,479 --> 01:51:45,840
all that.

2552
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:49,319
Speaker 4: Was like they did that, but were you forgetting they

2553
01:51:49,359 --> 01:51:51,560
did that spot and she was like torn, and Roddy

2554
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:54,640
turned away and then she's been on him while walked

2555
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:55,640
away and I love that.

2556
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:56,159
Speaker 3: That's great.

2557
01:51:56,199 --> 01:51:59,199
Speaker 1: Beau's just like you never know you're getting with this character,

2558
01:51:59,319 --> 01:52:00,760
and that's a I mean, like I don't even know.

2559
01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:03,479
Like when the death Priyers turnam Locks, I could see

2560
01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:05,039
her being the one that sticks with him. I can

2561
01:52:05,079 --> 01:52:07,359
also see her being the one that leads that group

2562
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:09,920
and turns on. Unfortunately, she's still have the greatest promo,

2563
01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:11,600
so I don't think she can fully lead that group.

2564
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:14,000
I think you get pack like let pack cut is

2565
01:52:14,079 --> 01:52:15,319
like boiler room, like.

2566
01:52:15,439 --> 01:52:16,399
Speaker 4: You think you know me?

2567
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:18,720
Speaker 3: Like he just yells at the thing, like I think

2568
01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:19,520
that has to be a combo.

2569
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:21,439
Speaker 1: But yeah, Marina, the same thing is more of just

2570
01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:24,640
some character work that I I'm excited to see Maria

2571
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:26,840
shaf hear on my TV. And I would have never

2572
01:52:26,960 --> 01:52:30,079
thought that. I thought I'm done with this person. So

2573
01:52:30,399 --> 01:52:33,920
uh now, in the kind of similar vein, yeah, I'm

2574
01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:36,520
happy with those aunts. So in the similar vein spos

2575
01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:39,680
breakout start of the year, who you got this one?

2576
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:40,600
Speaker 6: Is?

2577
01:52:41,119 --> 01:52:44,560
Speaker 4: This sun is curious? Three? Well honorable mention. I have

2578
01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:47,720
Kendall Gray because I feel like this year is gonna

2579
01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:48,279
be the year that.

2580
01:52:50,399 --> 01:52:52,319
Speaker 3: Barring an injury, it's it's probably your.

2581
01:52:52,279 --> 01:52:56,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but then also kind of for similar reasons.

2582
01:52:57,119 --> 01:53:00,520
It's only at five I have Javon Evans because I

2583
01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:03,319
feel like it's kind of for both reasons at the

2584
01:53:03,359 --> 01:53:05,720
same time, as in I feel like he was already

2585
01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:08,840
kind of a breakout start in twenty twenty four, even

2586
01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:10,760
though this year he did have a really good year

2587
01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:13,520
with some really great matches. Yeah, but then I also

2588
01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:17,039
feel it's possible that this year could also be like

2589
01:53:17,119 --> 01:53:19,680
another breakout year from with him on the main roster

2590
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:22,319
and more people seeing him. So that's why I only

2591
01:53:22,359 --> 01:53:24,479
put him at five, like I need to have him

2592
01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:26,359
on the list, even though I think there's reasons I

2593
01:53:26,399 --> 01:53:28,760
could have left him off for various reasons, but I

2594
01:53:28,840 --> 01:53:29,079
want to.

2595
01:53:29,239 --> 01:53:29,920
Speaker 3: I saw him on my.

2596
01:53:30,039 --> 01:53:32,359
Speaker 1: List because I feel like there's people like because you said,

2597
01:53:32,399 --> 01:53:34,239
like last year, I didn't watch much NXC, but because

2598
01:53:34,239 --> 01:53:35,840
he was on the main roster and the other spots

2599
01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:37,880
they gave him, like with Goonther. That's why I think

2600
01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:40,680
I could argue he almost had another breakout year, right,

2601
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:42,560
and next year if he's on the main roster for

2602
01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:44,319
the full year, it's like three years in a row.

2603
01:53:44,359 --> 01:53:45,960
You could argue he's the breakout. So he's just like

2604
01:53:46,039 --> 01:53:48,319
breaking on different like categories, right.

2605
01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:53,600
Speaker 4: Yeah. Then four, I had I had, I had JC

2606
01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:57,600
Jane obviously I had on the list, like just completely

2607
01:53:57,640 --> 01:54:00,880
stepped up from being like she wasn't like jabber level

2608
01:54:01,039 --> 01:54:04,039
but definitely wasn't seen as like car. She's like, yeah,

2609
01:54:04,319 --> 01:54:07,960
like the main event star women's division, and like she

2610
01:54:08,119 --> 01:54:10,880
won the title off Stephanie in like what feels like

2611
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:12,560
that was like we just need to get the title

2612
01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:15,760
of Stephane like this week. But after that she completely

2613
01:54:16,199 --> 01:54:18,399
stepped up. I feel like in all the matches he

2614
01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:21,800
had was also TNA Women's Champ for a while there

2615
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:24,319
and stepped up there, and I just thought she had

2616
01:54:24,359 --> 01:54:29,159
really great matches. Like I said, I said, what was

2617
01:54:29,199 --> 01:54:32,800
it like like Lolavice versus j c J and at

2618
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:35,479
No Mercy. I was at that show. That was like

2619
01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:38,239
some of the most hyped the crowd has ever been

2620
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:40,760
was for that match I was watching, or at least

2621
01:54:40,760 --> 01:54:44,840
crowd I've been to, Like the heat on JC was insane.

2622
01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:48,600
People just wanted Lola to win and that was a

2623
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:52,119
great match. And I think she's had a really she

2624
01:54:52,199 --> 01:54:55,920
had a really really great year in twenty twenty five.

2625
01:54:58,039 --> 01:55:02,439
Then three, I've Fletcher I feel like we've already kind

2626
01:55:02,479 --> 01:55:05,960
of talked about him breaking out this year, so I

2627
01:55:06,119 --> 01:55:09,600
just had that him on the list. Really it kind

2628
01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:13,039
of started at the end of I guess twenty twenty

2629
01:55:13,239 --> 01:55:15,439
four because that's when he turned on Ospray and stuff

2630
01:55:15,439 --> 01:55:17,800
like that. But then this whole year he's just been

2631
01:55:18,479 --> 01:55:21,880
doing this thing, you know, the TNT title run and

2632
01:55:22,439 --> 01:55:25,239
the also you still have the Steel Cage which with

2633
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:30,359
Osprey this year, and he's just been a consistent presence

2634
01:55:30,399 --> 01:55:32,720
throughout the year, you know, to the C two again,

2635
01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:37,560
to having matches like up until great matches up until

2636
01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:42,039
the end of the year. Two guy had Stephanie Vicer

2637
01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:45,000
that was kind of one sort of like Kendall Gray

2638
01:55:45,359 --> 01:55:47,479
last year where she wasn't on the list just because

2639
01:55:47,960 --> 01:55:50,319
like she was already kind of breaking out NXT just

2640
01:55:50,399 --> 01:55:52,039
in a few months at the end of that year.

2641
01:55:52,439 --> 01:55:54,840
And then this year was when it really blew up.

2642
01:55:54,920 --> 01:55:57,880
For obviously starting the year in NXT, going to the

2643
01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:01,760
main roster and winning the title, uh and just being

2644
01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:05,560
like going from yeah pretty much to getting signed to

2645
01:56:05,640 --> 01:56:08,319
winning the title in like less than a year is

2646
01:56:08,479 --> 01:56:12,920
pretty rare for anyone in WDE, especially these days. So

2647
01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:17,800
I thought great run there and number one. I didn't

2648
01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:20,640
put on all this but Eosky at number one from

2649
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:23,399
going to like because even if you look she'd won

2650
01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:25,600
the title before the world title, but if you go

2651
01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:28,760
to that run, like she'd come out to silence even

2652
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:31,680
though she was the world champion. And now she's getting

2653
01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:35,800
like real level reactions when she comes out. So it's

2654
01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:38,840
just been a massive, honestly win the title, defend it,

2655
01:56:39,960 --> 01:56:44,119
like successfully defending at Mania, and obviously the matchress re

2656
01:56:44,399 --> 01:56:48,720
ed Evolution, the tag run, the whole Rio run has

2657
01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:51,720
been great and just made her like a top star

2658
01:56:51,880 --> 01:56:52,479
of the company.

2659
01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:55,600
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, I didn't have EO there, but that's that's

2660
01:56:55,640 --> 01:56:57,439
a good point that there's like a different levels like

2661
01:56:57,439 --> 01:56:59,880
the Jagon thing, right, So yeah, and no, I agree,

2662
01:56:59,880 --> 01:57:02,279
And honestly I can't go.

2663
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:03,840
Speaker 3: I'll go because I have the same listen you.

2664
01:57:03,880 --> 01:57:05,920
Speaker 1: I just have Stephanie number one just because she was

2665
01:57:06,199 --> 01:57:09,159
a bit newer, and I had Fletcher, but those are

2666
01:57:09,199 --> 01:57:11,479
pretty much all the sepople. I didn't have anybody else

2667
01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:14,960
like different for that matter, Like I if Fletcher could

2668
01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:16,520
have won something bigger, I would have put him at

2669
01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:17,000
number one.

2670
01:57:17,079 --> 01:57:19,680
Speaker 3: But I think character wise, like there's a good chance

2671
01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:20,520
next year he could win the.

2672
01:57:20,479 --> 01:57:22,560
Speaker 1: World title off offspray, right, like I think that he

2673
01:57:23,239 --> 01:57:25,800
he there's a reason why Tony Cohn signed him a

2674
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:28,720
lot earlier and to get that contract done because w

2675
01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:30,880
W would have swapped like they would have swallowed that

2676
01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:32,600
guy really quick, because he has a good w B

2677
01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:35,359
look too. So no, I agree that, listen, that's why

2678
01:57:35,399 --> 01:57:37,359
I had So David, do you have anybody else on

2679
01:57:37,479 --> 01:57:37,920
your list?

2680
01:57:38,479 --> 01:57:38,680
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2681
01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:40,800
Speaker 2: So I have some of the same people that you

2682
01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:44,960
guys have and have two that you don't. And for

2683
01:57:45,159 --> 01:57:47,479
the beginning of the year, even though yes he was

2684
01:57:47,600 --> 01:57:50,600
already doing his thing in NXT, I have to give

2685
01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:52,600
a shout out to Joe Hendry because again he had

2686
01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:55,199
the World Rumble and the WrestleMania Parents, I mean, and

2687
01:57:55,279 --> 01:57:57,960
that guy got massive pops at both, like he can't

2688
01:57:58,279 --> 01:58:00,319
argue with those. And another one that I have that

2689
01:58:00,399 --> 01:58:04,439
you guys didn't have is Obey because yes, you know he's.

2690
01:58:04,319 --> 01:58:08,079
Speaker 6: Even going on a run. But that made loster match

2691
01:58:08,399 --> 01:58:11,359
against Cody Rhodes and held his own.

2692
01:58:12,640 --> 01:58:14,560
Speaker 3: He didn't lose, it just got h finished.

2693
01:58:15,279 --> 01:58:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah that that that shows just how massive of a

2694
01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:24,119
star he is becoming. So at on my list as well.

2695
01:58:24,159 --> 01:58:24,600
Speaker 6: Because of that.

2696
01:58:25,319 --> 01:58:28,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like if he wins the title this year,

2697
01:58:28,800 --> 01:58:30,840
I feel like we could have him like number one

2698
01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:34,439
breakout by the next year's awards. So that's kind of

2699
01:58:34,520 --> 01:58:37,199
another I left him off for so reason.

2700
01:58:37,800 --> 01:58:41,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see here, David, who do you have as

2701
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:45,640
the best free signing agent this year or options?

2702
01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:46,840
Speaker 4: Uh?

2703
01:58:48,119 --> 01:58:51,479
Speaker 2: Originally I had more I May, and you know, I've

2704
01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:54,159
kind of gone back and forth with that. I'm gonna

2705
01:58:54,159 --> 01:58:57,880
stick with her. She was an incredible steal and I

2706
01:58:58,319 --> 01:59:02,760
think that she still has more heights to get to,

2707
01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:06,279
like she hasn't reached her ceiling. So I'm going to

2708
01:59:06,319 --> 01:59:09,159
stick with her. They had that that weird ending with

2709
01:59:09,279 --> 01:59:12,239
her losing the title, and that's the only thing that

2710
01:59:12,399 --> 01:59:14,760
just kind of put a little damper on above and that,

2711
01:59:15,079 --> 01:59:17,680
Like she's been who we thought she was. She's a

2712
01:59:17,720 --> 01:59:21,600
little bit toned down than she was an aide, like

2713
01:59:21,880 --> 01:59:25,439
you know, some of that stuff you just can't do

2714
01:59:26,079 --> 01:59:28,680
in the FED, so like what I'm used to that,

2715
01:59:29,359 --> 01:59:32,520
So I would say that Marian May is my biggest

2716
01:59:32,640 --> 01:59:37,760
Like I I can't believe that they let this happen,

2717
01:59:38,079 --> 01:59:41,279
and she's been continuing on with that momentum.

2718
01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:42,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair.

2719
01:59:43,279 --> 01:59:46,399
Speaker 1: I got her as well. For my three, I had

2720
01:59:46,760 --> 01:59:49,800
her or no, I actually had four I had. I

2721
01:59:49,840 --> 01:59:53,119
don't know who I have the I I think it's

2722
01:59:53,119 --> 01:59:54,600
like a four way tie. I don't have anyone who's

2723
01:59:54,600 --> 01:59:55,039
like the best.

2724
01:59:55,079 --> 01:59:57,359
Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything like because definitely, like you said,

2725
01:59:57,479 --> 01:59:58,000
especially had.

2726
01:59:57,960 --> 02:00:02,479
Speaker 1: Signed last year, right technically, that's what four right now

2727
02:00:02,520 --> 02:00:04,960
are like George, I guess, and it was no, and

2728
02:00:05,039 --> 02:00:05,960
Pento was last year.

2729
02:00:05,880 --> 02:00:09,079
Speaker 4: Too well, Penta was twenty twenty five.

2730
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:10,880
Speaker 3: Was it to the debut in January?

2731
02:00:11,239 --> 02:00:11,439
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2732
02:00:11,479 --> 02:00:15,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well then that's that's tough because like the

2733
02:00:15,199 --> 02:00:17,880
first half for sure, I still we'd say on here.

2734
02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:22,079
Speaker 3: I think I don't like quarter was my four? Okay,

2735
02:00:22,239 --> 02:00:23,159
I have him.

2736
02:00:23,279 --> 02:00:26,479
Speaker 1: I got yeah, Blake Monroe, Maria May, I got Jordan Grace,

2737
02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:28,760
and I got Kevin Knight. Because Kevin Knight, I think

2738
02:00:28,840 --> 02:00:30,800
he's somebody that next year we could even talk about

2739
02:00:30,800 --> 02:00:33,279
for breakout year for a town. We'll see how he

2740
02:00:33,319 --> 02:00:35,279
gets booked, but I just think there could be there.

2741
02:00:35,279 --> 02:00:37,840
And I actually have Meghan Baine because I think that's

2742
02:00:38,039 --> 02:00:40,760
like Kevin Knight where it's some future and that Tony

2743
02:00:40,840 --> 02:00:42,720
Storm match. I really did like, and I think she

2744
02:00:42,840 --> 02:00:45,880
proved herself. I think she's still doing consistently good work.

2745
02:00:45,960 --> 02:00:48,239
So to me, I think Kevin and Meghan Baine are

2746
02:00:48,279 --> 02:00:50,279
more like I think their best. They're good signings for

2747
02:00:50,359 --> 02:00:53,279
the future. But really my top three would be Penta

2748
02:00:53,439 --> 02:00:56,039
Grace and uh Maria may or Blake Monroe.

2749
02:00:56,119 --> 02:00:56,720
Speaker 3: That'd be my three.

2750
02:00:56,840 --> 02:01:01,039
Speaker 4: So yeah, really, my my picks I had who were

2751
02:01:01,119 --> 02:01:05,239
sort of like people who just like fit in when

2752
02:01:05,279 --> 02:01:08,319
they got signed. It's not it wasn't necessarily if they

2753
02:01:08,399 --> 02:01:10,479
had a huge year or not, because I had I

2754
02:01:10,520 --> 02:01:14,560
had Penta, I had Mina, I had Megan Bain and

2755
02:01:14,680 --> 02:01:16,720
my number one, which I feel is the most one,

2756
02:01:16,760 --> 02:01:19,439
I had Speedball Mike Bailey because I feel like he's

2757
02:01:19,479 --> 02:01:22,159
a guy who they signed and it's like he could

2758
02:01:22,199 --> 02:01:24,960
have been there, like if I just started watching ANW

2759
02:01:25,119 --> 02:01:26,600
when he got there and he told me he'd been

2760
02:01:26,640 --> 02:01:29,640
there since day one of the company, Like I couldn't

2761
02:01:29,680 --> 02:01:31,880
believe you, because you just fit in. Like he had

2762
02:01:31,920 --> 02:01:35,279
a single, like he had singles match against, like he

2763
02:01:35,399 --> 02:01:38,640
was in there with Okada and Danny have against Ricochet

2764
02:01:38,760 --> 02:01:42,520
and Kennya match and then the whole Jet speed Tag

2765
02:01:42,640 --> 02:01:45,600
run and he's just been consistently like a guy who's

2766
02:01:45,640 --> 02:01:49,920
been in the company doing stuff the entire year, like prominent,

2767
02:01:50,079 --> 02:01:52,319
like hasn't gone for the world title, but been a

2768
02:01:52,439 --> 02:01:56,000
prominent character and just fit in perfectly to being in

2769
02:01:56,119 --> 02:02:00,640
aw No, that's fair a similar for your kind night reason.

2770
02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:04,079
But you know there are tag Team all.

2771
02:02:04,079 --> 02:02:08,039
Speaker 3: Right, test Bob's worst slash most display match of the year.

2772
02:02:08,199 --> 02:02:08,760
What do you got?

2773
02:02:09,720 --> 02:02:12,199
Speaker 4: Alright? I have five here, so five?

2774
02:02:13,279 --> 02:02:16,479
Speaker 3: Well, I mean for all of that, I technically got multiple,

2775
02:02:16,640 --> 02:02:17,680
so yeah.

2776
02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:21,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, for five. I had Becky and Larra at SummerSlam,

2777
02:02:22,319 --> 02:02:25,000
just because I was so excited for this match based

2778
02:02:25,039 --> 02:02:28,159
on their other two matches, and they just did something complete,

2779
02:02:28,239 --> 02:02:30,920
like they did not have like the wrestling classic that

2780
02:02:31,039 --> 02:02:32,279
they I thought they were gonna have.

2781
02:02:32,760 --> 02:02:34,560
Speaker 1: We all thought that was gonna be the best match

2782
02:02:34,600 --> 02:02:37,720
of the series, the worst. So can't wait for when

2783
02:02:37,720 --> 02:02:40,880
they're all fucking pissed and cried. It looks like they're

2784
02:02:40,920 --> 02:02:44,359
all mad about this match, so yeah, yeah, and it just.

2785
02:02:44,720 --> 02:02:46,600
Speaker 4: Like I don't even think I wouldn't say it's the

2786
02:02:46,720 --> 02:02:50,039
worst match of the year by far, Like I still

2787
02:02:50,119 --> 02:02:53,039
there's still spots in it. I like when they were

2788
02:02:53,159 --> 02:02:55,359
actually wrestling each other, so doing the stuff with the

2789
02:02:55,479 --> 02:02:58,720
zip ties or whatever. But it was just very very

2790
02:02:58,800 --> 02:03:01,079
disappointing for me, especially since I was so excited that

2791
02:03:01,239 --> 02:03:03,159
that was probably one of the matches I was mostly

2792
02:03:03,159 --> 02:03:08,199
excited for on SummerSlam. Yeah four, Like people might say

2793
02:03:08,279 --> 02:03:10,680
a different mox match, but for me, it has to

2794
02:03:10,800 --> 02:03:16,039
be Swerve versus Mox because this match is so ridiculous, Like,

2795
02:03:16,720 --> 02:03:18,439
I mean, the thing I always point out is like

2796
02:03:18,840 --> 02:03:21,359
they go to the outside. Obviously it takes like their

2797
02:03:21,399 --> 02:03:24,520
outside for like seventeen minutes, but they set up a ladder,

2798
02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:28,319
Mox go or they does like a sort does like

2799
02:03:28,359 --> 02:03:31,319
a swerve stomp through the table, puts Mocks in the ring.

2800
02:03:31,399 --> 02:03:33,479
They get back in the ring, and then they start

2801
02:03:33,560 --> 02:03:37,640
grappling and doing like Mox like flipping on his head

2802
02:03:37,800 --> 02:03:40,520
trying to grab this guy. And I'll see the finish.

2803
02:03:40,640 --> 02:03:43,760
People got so mad because like Hangman runs it. Oh yeah,

2804
02:03:44,159 --> 02:03:47,359
let's like Hangman like ran like with like no build up.

2805
02:03:47,399 --> 02:03:50,319
Helped Swerve here, and then the young Bucks showed up

2806
02:03:50,439 --> 02:03:54,800
and helped Moxley for like no reason. Uh and yeah,

2807
02:03:55,039 --> 02:03:57,640
and then Mox got like a if I remember correctly,

2808
02:03:57,720 --> 02:03:59,960
got like a triple h like ten count on swear

2809
02:04:00,159 --> 02:04:03,960
at the end. So yeah, this one was just like

2810
02:04:04,399 --> 02:04:06,640
I don't even hate this match that much, Like I

2811
02:04:06,720 --> 02:04:09,479
think it's a hilarious match, but people were so mad.

2812
02:04:09,520 --> 02:04:13,560
People were like quitting a w because of this match. Yeah, yeah,

2813
02:04:14,760 --> 02:04:17,960
especially because after Cope versus Mox, people were like, well,

2814
02:04:17,960 --> 02:04:20,000
at least we have Swerve next, and Swerve is one

2815
02:04:20,840 --> 02:04:22,279
beating Mox for his title.

2816
02:04:22,840 --> 02:04:22,960
Speaker 2: Uh.

2817
02:04:23,199 --> 02:04:28,079
Speaker 4: And then this match happened then for three as a

2818
02:04:28,199 --> 02:04:31,960
solo versus Jacob at Summer Slam, because this match was

2819
02:04:32,079 --> 02:04:35,560
just like, this is the most nothing match, like they did.

2820
02:04:35,640 --> 02:04:37,640
He didn't even do the mood salt off the cage

2821
02:04:37,720 --> 02:04:41,119
until after the match ended, like Solo just like escaped

2822
02:04:41,159 --> 02:04:44,079
the cage and then all the MFT guys ran in

2823
02:04:44,439 --> 02:04:46,479
and he did the mood salt and like stood tall

2824
02:04:46,840 --> 02:04:48,760
and that was it. Like it was just and it

2825
02:04:48,840 --> 02:04:52,000
was like the co main event. It was just so bad.

2826
02:04:53,920 --> 02:04:56,359
And yeah, after this is like that, the US title

2827
02:04:56,399 --> 02:04:59,760
actually became good with like Sammy beaning solo, but this

2828
02:05:00,039 --> 02:05:04,800
match was just so bad. Two, I have Brock versus

2829
02:05:04,920 --> 02:05:07,560
Sena because it was like we kind of knew what

2830
02:05:07,680 --> 02:05:10,159
it was gonna be, but then it was still that

2831
02:05:10,880 --> 02:05:13,399
and it was just like a waste of time for

2832
02:05:14,199 --> 02:05:18,000
this first Sena. And I mean we pretty much already

2833
02:05:18,000 --> 02:05:20,359
talked about it in like before, so there's not really

2834
02:05:20,439 --> 02:05:23,079
much else I have to say. And number one, I

2835
02:05:23,159 --> 02:05:24,960
mean it has to be this one in terms of

2836
02:05:25,079 --> 02:05:27,840
like the magnitude of what it was and what happened

2837
02:05:27,880 --> 02:05:30,960
in it. It's Cna versus Cody at wrestling yet number

2838
02:05:31,000 --> 02:05:34,520
one because even then, because we're on record that we

2839
02:05:34,840 --> 02:05:39,279
actually liked the heel Seena wrestling slow, but like you said,

2840
02:05:39,359 --> 02:05:41,880
when he hits, that's when it all went down here.

2841
02:05:42,319 --> 02:05:43,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a lot of people have this hard

2842
02:05:43,800 --> 02:05:46,520
because I enjoy the match chill fene where I remember,

2843
02:05:46,640 --> 02:05:49,760
there's a lot of people don't. Yeah, I liked the

2844
02:05:49,840 --> 02:05:51,000
match until the back half.

2845
02:05:51,119 --> 02:05:54,640
Speaker 4: I've been doing like the slow five knuckle shuffle and

2846
02:05:54,760 --> 02:05:57,239
stuff like that. Yeah, I thought they were having a

2847
02:05:57,399 --> 02:06:01,159
good match. I think it could have been obviously, well

2848
02:06:01,319 --> 02:06:03,359
we'll talk about best matches of the year, but they

2849
02:06:03,439 --> 02:06:05,479
had a much better match in them though they could

2850
02:06:05,479 --> 02:06:08,840
have done. But yeah, for number one, wor worst and

2851
02:06:09,119 --> 02:06:12,079
most disappointing had to be Seena versus codyet wrestling.

2852
02:06:12,800 --> 02:06:14,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so fallow up, I'll say it's just like a

2853
02:06:14,720 --> 02:06:17,079
ten way tie. But like, mostly what I have is

2854
02:06:17,119 --> 02:06:20,119
worst disappointing. I just put all Sena heel matches because

2855
02:06:20,239 --> 02:06:23,479
I hated I hated the Cody and Scena finish, so

2856
02:06:23,560 --> 02:06:24,199
I put that there.

2857
02:06:24,319 --> 02:06:26,279
Speaker 3: Brock and cold or broken Sina was bad.

2858
02:06:26,720 --> 02:06:30,039
Speaker 1: I hated the Scena ran any thing with all our

2859
02:06:30,119 --> 02:06:33,399
true stuff that gone there, all our true Sina stuff sucked.

2860
02:06:34,439 --> 02:06:34,560
Speaker 4: Uh.

2861
02:06:35,000 --> 02:06:37,800
Speaker 1: And the one that's really heartbreaking most disappointing probably up

2862
02:06:37,800 --> 02:06:40,279
there is the Punk and Sina one because Edgard chemistry.

2863
02:06:40,600 --> 02:06:43,279
The fact that it led to like the vision and

2864
02:06:43,359 --> 02:06:45,319
it led to Pent to like the fact that pent

2865
02:06:45,439 --> 02:06:47,880
is in their last match randomly is like what like

2866
02:06:47,960 --> 02:06:50,800
and they're having again a decent match up until they

2867
02:06:50,880 --> 02:06:54,119
did all this stuff in there again, it made no

2868
02:06:54,279 --> 02:06:56,800
sense that like Scena's trying to cheat and Punks like

2869
02:06:57,039 --> 02:06:58,640
shaking his fucking hand in the middle of the ring

2870
02:06:58,680 --> 02:07:01,720
while this is happening. It's like, what, like beat him then, dude,

2871
02:07:01,760 --> 02:07:03,760
like why he's trying He actively is trying to cheat

2872
02:07:03,760 --> 02:07:04,079
against you.

2873
02:07:04,119 --> 02:07:05,039
Speaker 3: Why are you shaking his hand?

2874
02:07:05,239 --> 02:07:07,880
Speaker 1: This makes this makes It's like when Wrestling at thirty

2875
02:07:07,960 --> 02:07:10,840
one when Triple h hits a sting with a sledgehammer

2876
02:07:11,039 --> 02:07:13,840
and then after sings shakes his hand, it's like he didn't.

2877
02:07:13,640 --> 02:07:15,800
Speaker 3: Beat you, he beats you. He hits you with a

2878
02:07:15,880 --> 02:07:18,520
foimal project and then on the A W side.

2879
02:07:18,520 --> 02:07:21,800
Speaker 1: Because I talked about this for many times, it's gotta

2880
02:07:21,840 --> 02:07:25,319
be moxleing Copeland for me because I, uh, Edge has

2881
02:07:25,399 --> 02:07:27,800
great matches with Roman, He's got great matches with Seth.

2882
02:07:27,960 --> 02:07:30,800
Speaker 3: I thought, Okay, Moxley has the chance to be the

2883
02:07:30,880 --> 02:07:33,279
best one. Now granted did they do him make good

2884
02:07:33,319 --> 02:07:35,399
and Moxley new he killed himself on the diamond and

2885
02:07:35,439 --> 02:07:39,119
put those those nails through him, Yes, but that still has.

2886
02:07:39,039 --> 02:07:41,039
Speaker 1: To put it there because for me personally, like with

2887
02:07:41,199 --> 02:07:43,800
Swerven Locks, he's like I already knew Moxley was like

2888
02:07:44,159 --> 02:07:46,039
doing this type of stuff with Moxle and Copeland.

2889
02:07:46,239 --> 02:07:48,039
Speaker 3: I've been waiting for a while for this one. And

2890
02:07:48,159 --> 02:07:50,760
that was like, h that, uh really brut me the

2891
02:07:50,760 --> 02:07:53,039
wrong way. So that's that's my list. So all heels

2892
02:07:53,039 --> 02:07:57,279
seen the matches and Edge and Cope so or fucking

2893
02:07:57,399 --> 02:08:02,199
Edge and ma goddamn Adam Cope with his name. What

2894
02:08:02,319 --> 02:08:02,960
do you got, David?

2895
02:08:03,600 --> 02:08:03,920
Speaker 4: All Right?

2896
02:08:04,119 --> 02:08:07,600
Speaker 2: So I have Broxina. You've already talked about I have

2897
02:08:07,800 --> 02:08:13,279
the Cody Sino WrestleMania one. I have Chelsea versus Elena

2898
02:08:13,359 --> 02:08:16,600
Vega from Saturday Night's main event with right I forgot.

2899
02:08:17,520 --> 02:08:22,159
But there is a match much worse than any of these.

2900
02:08:22,520 --> 02:08:25,279
I would take you all back to the twenty sixth

2901
02:08:25,319 --> 02:08:29,399
of September. It's a nice, beautiful Friday night. You're just gonna,

2902
02:08:29,479 --> 02:08:32,159
you know, enjoy your life. You sit down, you turn

2903
02:08:32,239 --> 02:08:35,720
on SmackDown, and you are forced to sit through Tiffany

2904
02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:39,520
Stratton versus Jake Cark Gill versus Nya Jack's triple threat

2905
02:08:39,920 --> 02:08:41,279
absolute botchfest.

2906
02:08:41,560 --> 02:08:44,159
Speaker 4: Actually I actually like this match beside the.

2907
02:08:46,800 --> 02:08:50,199
Speaker 6: Absolutely botch best of the night.

2908
02:08:50,640 --> 02:08:54,800
Speaker 2: U Nya with the shoulder everything just oh man it

2909
02:08:55,520 --> 02:08:57,880
And for some reason they still thought, you know what,

2910
02:08:58,720 --> 02:09:01,560
Jade's ready, We're where's ready?

2911
02:09:01,760 --> 02:09:03,239
Speaker 3: She got that cool scar now, you know?

2912
02:09:03,880 --> 02:09:08,319
Speaker 2: So that that is my absolute chess just worse worst

2913
02:09:08,399 --> 02:09:11,720
of it all right, So staying in the worst category,

2914
02:09:11,760 --> 02:09:14,119
we have the Devil Masks men wore ak the worst

2915
02:09:14,159 --> 02:09:15,680
slash dumbest booking decision.

2916
02:09:16,439 --> 02:09:18,640
Speaker 1: I'll take this one first, and for me, it's a

2917
02:09:20,279 --> 02:09:24,079
I have seen this heel turn at the like it's there.

2918
02:09:24,640 --> 02:09:27,079
The moment is good, but because after the fame we

2919
02:09:27,119 --> 02:09:29,079
found there's no plan and it pretty much just a

2920
02:09:29,119 --> 02:09:32,760
pivot because Rock was mad that Cody went't turn. In retrospect,

2921
02:09:33,000 --> 02:09:35,279
it's looking at everything, it's like this, the stone cold

2922
02:09:35,359 --> 02:09:38,000
heel turn at the moment was great, but in retrospect

2923
02:09:38,079 --> 02:09:39,920
like that should never happen. So that's more of the bottom.

2924
02:09:40,319 --> 02:09:42,439
This is why I ragged on and they almost saved

2925
02:09:42,439 --> 02:09:45,760
it but still didn't. I hated the raw Netflix premiere

2926
02:09:46,119 --> 02:09:48,399
of Rock for some reason, giving Cody Holmes the speech

2927
02:09:48,479 --> 02:09:50,359
bout I love you man, you really are the QB

2928
02:09:50,439 --> 02:09:51,760
and you put the whole company on your back.

2929
02:09:52,039 --> 02:09:53,960
Speaker 3: It's like, man, you guys just had this blood.

2930
02:09:53,720 --> 02:09:56,239
Speaker 4: For you know. That was a booking decision. To be honest,

2931
02:09:56,399 --> 02:09:56,840
that's true.

2932
02:09:56,840 --> 02:10:01,319
Speaker 3: But it's true Rocks booking decisions.

2933
02:10:01,319 --> 02:10:03,319
Speaker 6: I'll say that just wait til you get to mind.

2934
02:10:03,720 --> 02:10:06,479
Speaker 3: That's why I still have number one. It's no surprise.

2935
02:10:06,640 --> 02:10:09,720
Speaker 1: I still say worst WrestleMania ending of all time, fiend

2936
02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:11,159
Travis Scott with no Rock.

2937
02:10:11,199 --> 02:10:13,960
Speaker 3: It's disappointing. It was just bloon out of the air.

2938
02:10:14,039 --> 02:10:16,359
And I do think that wrestling goes and ebbs and flows.

2939
02:10:16,680 --> 02:10:19,520
That was the official You could feel people starting to

2940
02:10:19,560 --> 02:10:21,720
be more critical of Triple H and the product again,

2941
02:10:21,760 --> 02:10:23,560
and since then we've had more instances, but that was

2942
02:10:23,600 --> 02:10:26,039
like the I think Triple AH had made mistakes, but

2943
02:10:26,279 --> 02:10:29,119
never dropped the ball, never threw an interception like that

2944
02:10:29,640 --> 02:10:31,359
that I don't care what they say, like, well, he's

2945
02:10:31,399 --> 02:10:33,479
connected to the Rock and Rock wasn't here. You don't

2946
02:10:33,520 --> 02:10:34,920
have Travis, you don't do that.

2947
02:10:35,079 --> 02:10:39,000
Speaker 1: You don't do the the the u Nito Wrestle Kingdom

2948
02:10:39,119 --> 02:10:41,960
entrance where Tras Scott takes ten minutes. Again, it was

2949
02:10:42,520 --> 02:10:45,279
it's something that I'll still never I understand Trescott. You

2950
02:10:45,319 --> 02:10:48,880
could get that interfearings, remember that.

2951
02:10:49,279 --> 02:10:52,319
Speaker 4: Where you're like hit you were Cody at the crossroads

2952
02:10:52,359 --> 02:10:55,840
on Trevis Scott those buffs every time.

2953
02:10:56,279 --> 02:10:58,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, payback for what he had just yeah.

2954
02:10:58,399 --> 02:11:02,279
Speaker 4: I gots which is like you did like amorrow.

2955
02:11:04,199 --> 02:11:05,960
Speaker 3: That's where it's just there's a way to do that.

2956
02:11:06,199 --> 02:11:08,279
Speaker 1: And the fact that no one in the room sat

2957
02:11:08,920 --> 02:11:11,079
went back like we can't do it this way, right,

2958
02:11:11,239 --> 02:11:13,119
Let's just have him come through the crowd, have him

2959
02:11:13,199 --> 02:11:17,000
run down hit fiend after like I don't know, very odd.

2960
02:11:17,119 --> 02:11:18,960
So yeah, it has to be Trascott at Man. Yeah,

2961
02:11:19,119 --> 02:11:21,279
just one of the worst wrestling bookings ever for me,

2962
02:11:21,479 --> 02:11:23,600
that's that's up there, So what about you, David.

2963
02:11:24,319 --> 02:11:27,520
Speaker 2: My worst booking decision is letting The Rock be involved

2964
02:11:27,560 --> 02:11:31,399
with booking period, every every everything involving him for the

2965
02:11:31,520 --> 02:11:35,479
last calendar. The board member man has been absolutely terrible.

2966
02:11:37,479 --> 02:11:37,800
Speaker 5: That is.

2967
02:11:38,079 --> 02:11:41,840
Speaker 3: The NXT promo was worth it, though, Man, he was

2968
02:11:41,920 --> 02:11:42,840
hard beyond.

2969
02:11:44,960 --> 02:11:46,760
Speaker 1: I don't think The Rock was doing cocaine, but if

2970
02:11:46,760 --> 02:11:48,439
you're to tell me was, I would believe in the

2971
02:11:48,479 --> 02:11:49,920
next d pro he was doing.

2972
02:11:50,279 --> 02:11:52,560
Speaker 3: He had a couple of zoa's going through his body

2973
02:11:52,640 --> 02:11:54,399
that night he was on something else.

2974
02:11:58,359 --> 02:12:02,359
Speaker 6: So and you forg get on that Netflix premiere one.

2975
02:12:02,439 --> 02:12:06,199
Speaker 2: Even before he started glazing over Cody, he threatened the

2976
02:12:06,359 --> 02:12:11,000
board of Netflix and bringing out the fact that they

2977
02:12:11,119 --> 02:12:14,600
had all the issues with the Jake Paul fight beforehand

2978
02:12:14,680 --> 02:12:17,079
and things like that, so like you just shiit on Netflix.

2979
02:12:17,279 --> 02:12:21,880
Speaker 4: Like he was back to doing like the dumb like

2980
02:12:22,479 --> 02:12:26,279
like like like PG Rock jokes. He was like yeah,

2981
02:12:26,439 --> 02:12:29,279
and they're like, oh, if like if the streams goes out,

2982
02:12:29,359 --> 02:12:32,000
I'm gonna go squid games on your ass or something

2983
02:12:32,039 --> 02:12:32,239
like that.

2984
02:12:32,520 --> 02:12:34,720
Speaker 1: Like he was being very Hollywood two and three Rock

2985
02:12:34,760 --> 02:12:36,319
two where he's like overly cheesy and.

2986
02:12:36,600 --> 02:12:39,159
Speaker 6: It was bad, just bad.

2987
02:12:39,279 --> 02:12:42,560
Speaker 2: So everything involved with The Rock being involved with the

2988
02:12:42,600 --> 02:12:46,680
booking is my number one. My number two is uh

2989
02:12:47,119 --> 02:12:50,800
Hook and Samoa Joe and everything that went into Smojo

2990
02:12:50,880 --> 02:12:53,359
winning the championship. It was just it was odd, like,

2991
02:12:53,760 --> 02:12:57,520
oh where Hook now has gone from this to this

2992
02:12:57,760 --> 02:12:59,520
and AOPs dojo?

2993
02:13:00,439 --> 02:13:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, like and then we're coming on and like beating

2994
02:13:03,119 --> 02:13:06,000
up twenty guys and all was awkward Like that whole

2995
02:13:06,479 --> 02:13:09,039
last ten minutes was again, why does no one sit

2996
02:13:09,119 --> 02:13:11,000
back and be like, let's just change this up a

2997
02:13:11,079 --> 02:13:11,800
little bit, you know.

2998
02:13:12,600 --> 02:13:14,720
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're a local wrestler in any town,

2999
02:13:14,800 --> 02:13:16,560
you got to be excited because you know you're going

3000
02:13:16,600 --> 02:13:18,439
to get booked on the show as a member of

3001
02:13:18,520 --> 02:13:21,119
the Ops every week. But other than that, like, I

3002
02:13:21,199 --> 02:13:24,640
don't understand what's going on with anything to do with

3003
02:13:24,760 --> 02:13:27,760
the Ops, anything to do with Hook right now, this

3004
02:13:27,840 --> 02:13:28,640
Smote joseup.

3005
02:13:28,800 --> 02:13:31,399
Speaker 6: It was just it was weird. But no, The Rock

3006
02:13:31,560 --> 02:13:34,520
is step being involved in booking is definitely the worst

3007
02:13:34,560 --> 02:13:34,760
for me.

3008
02:13:35,319 --> 02:13:36,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, subs.

3009
02:13:37,079 --> 02:13:39,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I said, I have five like always, but

3010
02:13:40,079 --> 02:13:43,079
five I have EO Sky not wrestling for like two

3011
02:13:43,199 --> 02:13:44,920
months after wrestling yet.

3012
02:13:44,920 --> 02:13:47,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was weird, just like she was an injury.

3013
02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:49,760
As far as we know, she wasn't injury. That was

3014
02:13:49,960 --> 02:13:50,560
that was weird.

3015
02:13:50,680 --> 02:13:53,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, just like for no reason at all really,

3016
02:13:54,520 --> 02:13:56,680
and like she was finally gonna wrestle and then Live

3017
02:13:56,760 --> 02:13:58,800
got injured too, But I mean I can't put that

3018
02:13:58,960 --> 02:14:02,239
on her, but but yeah, it was just very dumb

3019
02:14:02,600 --> 02:14:05,880
booking decision. Simple. That's really the simplest one I have here,

3020
02:14:06,439 --> 02:14:08,319
I'm saying. With the next one, which is just like

3021
02:14:08,560 --> 02:14:12,119
the Jordan Grace not winning anything in NXT, I have

3022
02:14:12,239 --> 02:14:15,720
done it four just kind of like I mean, she

3023
02:14:15,800 --> 02:14:16,680
could have won something.

3024
02:14:16,880 --> 02:14:18,880
Speaker 3: I feel like, give her up three week one, give

3025
02:14:18,880 --> 02:14:20,680
her a week run or something, you know.

3026
02:14:20,960 --> 02:14:23,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, even like the and I love jay Z Jane

3027
02:14:23,800 --> 02:14:26,520
title right and her winning the title, but Jordan like

3028
02:14:26,880 --> 02:14:31,560
having this like twenty twenty minute also match against Stephanie

3029
02:14:31,680 --> 02:14:34,760
like the night before, and then jac just like wins it,

3030
02:14:35,000 --> 02:14:38,039
like like you're gonna like if you knew stefinitely had

3031
02:14:38,079 --> 02:14:40,159
to drop the title unless you learned like that day,

3032
02:14:40,319 --> 02:14:42,560
Like I would have just given it to Jordan for

3033
02:14:42,680 --> 02:14:47,600
a while and then Jacy beat her. Yeah, but then three,

3034
02:14:47,760 --> 02:14:49,960
I mean this already start getting to real stuff. I

3035
02:14:50,119 --> 02:14:53,199
just have early twenty twenty five death riders, and I'm

3036
02:14:53,239 --> 02:14:57,760
talking rock and Roll Express, cleaning fluid on Orange Fast

3037
02:14:58,600 --> 02:14:59,119
or rat.

3038
02:15:01,520 --> 02:15:03,439
Speaker 1: No, you're right, I would add that I forgot about

3039
02:15:03,479 --> 02:15:05,560
the rock and Roll Express stuff, that there was some

3040
02:15:05,720 --> 02:15:09,840
really bad dynamite stuff that that definitely deserves a shout out.

3041
02:15:09,920 --> 02:15:13,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, just all of it together. It's one two, the

3042
02:15:13,600 --> 02:15:15,880
same kind of as both of you guys. I'm putting

3043
02:15:15,960 --> 02:15:19,199
all of it together. I said Travis Scott at Mania

3044
02:15:19,600 --> 02:15:22,600
no rock sceneor retirement too, our scene it He'll run

3045
02:15:22,800 --> 02:15:24,399
just all of it together into one.

3046
02:15:25,199 --> 02:15:25,319
Speaker 5: Uh.

3047
02:15:25,600 --> 02:15:27,640
Speaker 4: And I have that at too, because my number one

3048
02:15:27,920 --> 02:15:32,359
is Brock returning because to me that was just like, yeah,

3049
02:15:32,520 --> 02:15:36,560
that is worse to me than just like bad Travis Scott,

3050
02:15:36,680 --> 02:15:39,319
like Trescott doing a bad run in that WRESTLINGIA.

3051
02:15:39,960 --> 02:15:41,800
Speaker 3: No, you're right, I would actually put that number one.

3052
02:15:41,800 --> 02:15:43,920
Speaker 1: I kind of forget about that, but that that is true,

3053
02:15:44,319 --> 02:15:45,920
especially after everything that happened.

3054
02:15:46,239 --> 02:15:47,560
Speaker 3: That is truly just af one.

3055
02:15:47,720 --> 02:15:49,840
Speaker 4: Especially it led to nothing.

3056
02:15:50,079 --> 02:15:52,239
Speaker 3: Like nothing, and like people looked at the analytics like

3057
02:15:52,279 --> 02:15:54,279
when he was on TV, didn't really like boost the rating.

3058
02:15:54,319 --> 02:15:56,840
It's like, okay, you got some clicks on TikTok and

3059
02:15:56,880 --> 02:15:58,880
stuff like that. Cool, but it's like if you don't

3060
02:15:58,880 --> 02:16:01,880
really care about brock Lesson twenty twenty six anymore, you know,

3061
02:16:01,920 --> 02:16:04,159
there's a certain group of people they'll tune in and

3062
02:16:04,239 --> 02:16:05,960
then that's it. They'll be done with it. So and

3063
02:16:05,960 --> 02:16:08,079
then they just pay them all this money. So yeah,

3064
02:16:08,239 --> 02:16:10,800
that's that's a good one. Okay, Now we get some.

3065
02:16:10,840 --> 02:16:13,319
Speaker 1: Positive stuff because now we got our last four. We

3066
02:16:13,439 --> 02:16:14,800
got Rest of the Year, Tag Team.

3067
02:16:14,680 --> 02:16:17,319
Speaker 3: The Year, Show of the Year, and Match the Year, David,

3068
02:16:17,439 --> 02:16:18,760
who are your tag teams of the Year?

3069
02:16:20,439 --> 02:16:25,520
Speaker 6: Tag Team of the Year? Is Bandido or Brorodito? Yeah yeah,

3070
02:16:25,960 --> 02:16:29,760
bro Dido. I mean they they surprised me.

3071
02:16:30,359 --> 02:16:32,680
Speaker 2: They put on some good showings, had some fun matches,

3072
02:16:32,920 --> 02:16:36,440
had some cool inventive tag team combinations, Like every match

3073
02:16:36,520 --> 02:16:40,319
they're pulling out some new weird ass tag team move,

3074
02:16:40,520 --> 02:16:43,760
and it was it was just absolutely fun to watch them.

3075
02:16:44,239 --> 02:16:47,440
So Broddo just hands and above takes.

3076
02:16:47,280 --> 02:16:47,639
Speaker 4: It for me.

3077
02:16:48,280 --> 02:16:49,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll go because Brote is mind too.

3078
02:16:49,920 --> 02:16:52,079
Speaker 4: I had as well.

3079
02:16:52,319 --> 02:16:55,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, I had like actually for fun, like

3080
02:16:55,639 --> 02:16:58,200
in other categories like Charlotte and Lexai thought it was great,

3081
02:16:58,280 --> 02:16:58,680
like not the.

3082
02:16:58,719 --> 02:17:00,840
Speaker 3: Matches, but the been considering it.

3083
02:17:01,159 --> 02:17:03,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, the unit I had Young Bucks because they had

3084
02:17:03,280 --> 02:17:06,319
that great match with Brideto, and I actually loved Broke

3085
02:17:06,399 --> 02:17:09,479
Young Bucks for offer gimmick wise, I love the templates

3086
02:17:09,520 --> 02:17:11,319
they're dressed in the boiler room.

3087
02:17:11,399 --> 02:17:16,719
Speaker 3: They can't negative account on that. Yeah, like already ring

3088
02:17:16,920 --> 02:17:20,040
the Jar Engines of me. Those ones are so good.

3089
02:17:20,120 --> 02:17:23,760
Speaker 4: So I was there for that one live like already

3090
02:17:24,000 --> 02:17:26,319
and it was great because live like I saw like

3091
02:17:26,399 --> 02:17:28,079
they were playing the video on the tront and they

3092
02:17:28,200 --> 02:17:30,559
just walked out in the dark like all sad into

3093
02:17:30,639 --> 02:17:31,000
the ring.

3094
02:17:31,639 --> 02:17:33,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how I had them number two, but had

3095
02:17:33,760 --> 02:17:35,719
to be broddel. I hope they returned to I know

3096
02:17:35,799 --> 02:17:37,520
people keep pitching that Bro's gonna.

3097
02:17:37,360 --> 02:17:38,920
Speaker 3: Turn on them. I really don't want that.

3098
02:17:39,040 --> 02:17:42,000
Speaker 1: I want like it sucks because I guess lots of

3099
02:17:42,040 --> 02:17:45,399
people have stated that, like tk's big plans for Bandido

3100
02:17:45,440 --> 02:17:47,159
in twenty twenty six, so of course do that.

3101
02:17:47,479 --> 02:17:48,680
Speaker 3: It just sucks like a.

3102
02:17:48,719 --> 02:17:51,879
Speaker 4: Brody turns stay that for like when Bandido it's like

3103
02:17:52,000 --> 02:17:53,120
one the world had already.

3104
02:17:53,159 --> 02:17:55,200
Speaker 1: I agree, yeah, keep them friends for now, but it

3105
02:17:55,280 --> 02:17:56,840
sucks that they want to do these singles push when

3106
02:17:56,879 --> 02:17:58,520
this take team like just happened.

3107
02:17:58,520 --> 02:17:59,000
Speaker 3: But I get it.

3108
02:17:59,040 --> 02:18:01,159
Speaker 1: We got to get to edge Christian versus FDR. We

3109
02:18:01,239 --> 02:18:03,120
got all this stuff, So I just hope Brody King

3110
02:18:03,159 --> 02:18:04,840
doesn't get lost in it. But yeah, I suppose you

3111
02:18:04,840 --> 02:18:05,840
said your broddo as well.

3112
02:18:05,959 --> 02:18:09,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, for some reasons. I mean I couldn't say it

3113
02:18:09,760 --> 02:18:12,600
was like a super weak year, but they definitely stood

3114
02:18:12,639 --> 02:18:13,719
out more than anyone else.

3115
02:18:14,079 --> 02:18:18,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say there just wasn't multiple like even like Fracks.

3116
02:18:18,120 --> 02:18:19,520
I felt like they kind of took a seat because

3117
02:18:19,520 --> 02:18:21,479
they're on smack Down, right, And that's why I even hope,

3118
02:18:21,520 --> 02:18:23,639
like Jetspeed next you're gonna have some bigger matches.

3119
02:18:23,680 --> 02:18:25,399
Speaker 3: But uh yeah, we'll see.

3120
02:18:25,479 --> 02:18:28,239
Speaker 1: Okay, in that same vein Wrestler of the year, who

3121
02:18:28,280 --> 02:18:30,159
you got about who's your wrestler of the year?

3122
02:18:31,200 --> 02:18:34,440
Speaker 4: Well, or which one are we saying? For last what category?

3123
02:18:34,440 --> 02:18:36,040
Speaker 3: I put Match of the Year because I thought Match

3124
02:18:36,079 --> 02:18:38,360
of the Year was or wise or some reveal.

3125
02:18:38,120 --> 02:18:39,200
Speaker 4: You goes really.

3126
02:18:41,959 --> 02:18:42,120
Speaker 2: Order.

3127
02:18:42,399 --> 02:18:44,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, but for my wrestler earlier, I mean it's an

3128
02:18:44,840 --> 02:18:47,520
easy number one for me with no me with no

3129
02:18:47,639 --> 02:18:50,280
honorable mention of the Zeo Scott, I thought.

3130
02:18:50,159 --> 02:18:52,559
Speaker 3: So, yeah, David, it's yours.

3131
02:18:54,360 --> 02:18:59,799
Speaker 2: Uh so I had my wrestler's broken down into men

3132
02:19:00,079 --> 02:19:05,280
and women. So for men, I'm sticking with my man

3133
02:19:05,399 --> 02:19:07,879
at the beginning of the year. Due to injury, he

3134
02:19:08,000 --> 02:19:09,440
wasn't really around at the end of the year, and

3135
02:19:09,520 --> 02:19:12,520
that's will Osprey because every match of his was just

3136
02:19:12,719 --> 02:19:17,079
absolute banger after banger. Sucks that he got hurt, but

3137
02:19:17,600 --> 02:19:21,719
I mean even in that cage match with Omega and them.

3138
02:19:21,680 --> 02:19:24,120
Speaker 6: Like he was like the shining moment of that.

3139
02:19:24,680 --> 02:19:28,600
Speaker 2: And then for women's I have Eo, Like she was

3140
02:19:28,760 --> 02:19:32,280
just EO was amazing in every match that they put her,

3141
02:19:32,280 --> 02:19:33,959
and yet it sucks that they had that two months

3142
02:19:34,000 --> 02:19:36,920
where she wasn't wrestling, but from WrestleMania to the stuff

3143
02:19:36,959 --> 02:19:39,159
she's doing now, her flipping off the top of the

3144
02:19:39,239 --> 02:19:43,440
cage with the trash can, everything that winning the tag team, Like,

3145
02:19:43,879 --> 02:19:46,440
EO has just been that girl for them and like

3146
02:19:46,959 --> 02:19:50,639
I'm glad that she's been that girl. Honorable mention for

3147
02:19:50,799 --> 02:19:54,040
women would be Tony Storm because again also puts on

3148
02:19:54,799 --> 02:19:57,200
amazing matches, and Tony Storm, I feel like, is the

3149
02:19:57,319 --> 02:19:59,760
whole package when it comes to wrestling. Puts on good matches,

3150
02:20:00,159 --> 02:20:03,719
great character work, great promos, everything about it just shines.

3151
02:20:03,799 --> 02:20:06,600
Speaker 6: But Eo was just on another level.

3152
02:20:07,399 --> 02:20:09,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I haven't had a top three because

3153
02:20:09,239 --> 02:20:10,760
they had like there is the men, the women, But

3154
02:20:10,799 --> 02:20:12,639
the problem is I got the women, tied the men,

3155
02:20:12,799 --> 02:20:15,079
and my overall pick is I got hanger On there,

3156
02:20:15,079 --> 02:20:16,920
I got the Hangman because for me, it's a calmo

3157
02:20:17,040 --> 02:20:19,719
of the matches, but also the character stuff and I

3158
02:20:19,760 --> 02:20:22,360
hope you didn't get lost this year. I love the

3159
02:20:22,440 --> 02:20:25,920
current Hayman character of just the crazed look in his eye,

3160
02:20:26,079 --> 02:20:28,719
that frazzled beard, the when he grows his hair out,

3161
02:20:29,079 --> 02:20:31,440
everything from obviously it's carried over from the Swerve story

3162
02:20:31,479 --> 02:20:34,200
of last year, but continuing on throughout the year.

3163
02:20:34,600 --> 02:20:37,639
Speaker 3: I really liked that stuff. And other than maybe like

3164
02:20:37,760 --> 02:20:41,000
some hiccup with Jeff Jarrett, but like and as quality Mattress.

3165
02:20:41,000 --> 02:20:42,959
Speaker 1: He had that match with Losspray, he had the match

3166
02:20:43,000 --> 02:20:45,239
with Maxley, which was like a great moment. He's other

3167
02:20:45,319 --> 02:20:46,840
great stuff he had. We just talked about that match

3168
02:20:46,879 --> 02:20:49,399
with Will Hobbs, like he's such a dependable guy.

3169
02:20:49,440 --> 02:20:50,440
Speaker 3: He is like the main character.

3170
02:20:50,760 --> 02:20:53,159
Speaker 1: And then for if there was women, even then I'd

3171
02:20:53,159 --> 02:20:55,399
say it's like tied for second would be Io. But

3172
02:20:55,479 --> 02:20:58,000
then I also got Mercedes. Mercedes when she came back

3173
02:20:58,000 --> 02:21:01,239
to AW I was worried that first year. I was like,

3174
02:21:01,319 --> 02:21:03,600
you know what, she had too much time off. She's

3175
02:21:03,639 --> 02:21:05,719
just getting the bag. She's gonna a kind of coast

3176
02:21:05,760 --> 02:21:09,399
until we get back to WWE. This year multiple matches

3177
02:21:09,440 --> 02:21:12,879
that I was at least a four, but she really

3178
02:21:12,959 --> 02:21:13,520
impressed me.

3179
02:21:13,639 --> 02:21:15,319
Speaker 3: And I think she did carry division all. She did

3180
02:21:15,360 --> 02:21:18,799
a bunch of other stuff too, but she she was phenomenal.

3181
02:21:18,840 --> 02:21:21,559
Speaker 1: I think a couple of things like the last Statlander

3182
02:21:21,600 --> 02:21:23,360
and the toy Storm match didn't reach the heights, but

3183
02:21:23,440 --> 02:21:26,239
then she had that amazing series with Chris Statlander the

3184
02:21:26,280 --> 02:21:29,680
first time, like that first stat match was incredible. So yeah,

3185
02:21:29,760 --> 02:21:31,600
it's kind of like a two way tie there, but

3186
02:21:31,680 --> 02:21:33,440
I got hanged mat as by number one there so.

3187
02:21:34,920 --> 02:21:35,799
Speaker 3: And then I'll go for this one.

3188
02:21:36,000 --> 02:21:38,360
Speaker 1: I'm talking now show the year I actually got a tie.

3189
02:21:38,479 --> 02:21:41,559
I got and I guess if I had a preference,

3190
02:21:41,680 --> 02:21:44,040
i'd go, which was all In twenty twenty five. I

3191
02:21:44,159 --> 02:21:46,959
do have there, But then next was Evolution twenty twenty five.

3192
02:21:47,200 --> 02:21:49,319
I think like there's like the Battle Royal and Evolution,

3193
02:21:49,399 --> 02:21:50,000
Like there's a couple of.

3194
02:21:49,959 --> 02:21:52,120
Speaker 3: Spots like that's all right, but same as All in

3195
02:21:52,239 --> 02:21:54,760
so I think all It has just a bigger, grander scale.

3196
02:21:54,799 --> 02:21:58,000
It's like the epic ness. But Evolution just had multiple

3197
02:21:58,079 --> 02:21:58,840
great match.

3198
02:21:58,639 --> 02:22:01,120
Speaker 1: After great match, some great moments. So yeah, those two

3199
02:22:01,200 --> 02:22:03,559
shows for me were pretty like one A one B

3200
02:22:03,719 --> 02:22:03,920
to me.

3201
02:22:04,040 --> 02:22:07,360
Speaker 3: So all In yeah, well that too, right, it was

3202
02:22:07,399 --> 02:22:09,000
just like both that's probably a lot of the two,

3203
02:22:09,159 --> 02:22:11,239
just like we have to compete and whatnot. But yeah,

3204
02:22:11,280 --> 02:22:14,600
all In In Evolution twenty twenty five did be honestly

3205
02:22:14,680 --> 02:22:17,360
a tie for me. So what about U? S Bops?

3206
02:22:17,879 --> 02:22:20,120
Speaker 4: I had Evolution as my normal one?

3207
02:22:20,760 --> 02:22:21,559
Speaker 3: What about you, David?

3208
02:22:22,399 --> 02:22:25,159
Speaker 6: I had all In with Evolution as my number two.

3209
02:22:25,280 --> 02:22:27,520
Speaker 4: So yeah, we've got time.

3210
02:22:28,239 --> 02:22:30,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, well the gimmicks of time, which makes sense. I

3211
02:22:30,399 --> 02:22:32,000
feel like those are the shows I saw the most too.

3212
02:22:32,000 --> 02:22:35,280
Speaker 1: It's just like it was just twenty four hours forty

3213
02:22:35,319 --> 02:22:37,000
hours of great wrestling moments, right.

3214
02:22:38,280 --> 02:22:40,200
Speaker 4: Events sad Goldberg didn't.

3215
02:22:41,920 --> 02:22:49,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, alright, match of the year. This is like imasgine.

3216
02:22:49,280 --> 02:22:51,520
You guys have like multileaner mentions, right, So I have.

3217
02:22:51,600 --> 02:22:54,680
Speaker 4: A top five with like ten no legends.

3218
02:22:55,040 --> 02:22:55,680
Speaker 3: Okay, let's just.

3219
02:22:55,719 --> 02:22:57,520
Speaker 1: Let's do our top five because I got my Oh

3220
02:22:57,600 --> 02:22:59,399
you have a top five ten leven let's see, let's

3221
02:22:59,440 --> 02:23:01,680
do our top five just for time sake. Care I

3222
02:23:01,719 --> 02:23:04,360
gotta get my vally, but you can round off. That's

3223
02:23:04,360 --> 02:23:06,559
about like quick. You can round off all your your

3224
02:23:06,639 --> 02:23:07,840
lists and everything like that.

3225
02:23:08,120 --> 02:23:09,760
Speaker 4: My honorable mentions, Yeah.

3226
02:23:09,840 --> 02:23:12,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right yeah, throw them all out there, out there.

3227
02:23:12,920 --> 02:23:17,719
Speaker 4: Javon versus Leon Slater and TNA Bound for Glory. I

3228
02:23:17,840 --> 02:23:20,680
have JC versus Lolo, Like I said, I just love

3229
02:23:20,799 --> 02:23:25,239
that match Live Women's Iron Survivor. Javon versus O bet

3230
02:23:25,360 --> 02:23:28,680
heat Wave, Bailey versus Lyra two out of three falls.

3231
02:23:29,079 --> 02:23:33,200
I've Hangman versus Moxley. Texas death is in my honorable mentions.

3232
02:23:33,239 --> 02:23:38,399
Didn't make my top five, Viking versus Gable at World's Collide,

3233
02:23:38,879 --> 02:23:42,799
Jerman Grace versus Stephanie Naomi versus Nia Jackson. Like that

3234
02:23:42,959 --> 02:23:45,399
first SmackDown of the year they randomly had, like it's

3235
02:23:45,440 --> 02:23:48,799
like twenty five minute banger match no one remembers because

3236
02:23:48,799 --> 02:23:51,879
that's the one where Tiffany cashes it afterwards. But then

3237
02:23:52,399 --> 02:23:56,000
then at Osprey versus Takeshta on Dynamite. That was a

3238
02:23:56,159 --> 02:23:59,040
Owen Hart match, which is just like an amazing match

3239
02:24:00,600 --> 02:24:04,959
than Guntha versus Punk Summer Slam and Punk versus Roman

3240
02:24:05,079 --> 02:24:06,479
versus seth at Mania.

3241
02:24:07,440 --> 02:24:09,719
Speaker 3: All right, those are some good ones. Yeah, okay, give us,

3242
02:24:10,719 --> 02:24:13,559
give you your top five now you're actually.

3243
02:24:13,280 --> 02:24:16,680
Speaker 4: My top five? Is my number five is one's point

3244
02:24:16,799 --> 02:24:21,520
on anyone else's list. But it is Praxium versus Brigs

3245
02:24:21,559 --> 02:24:26,000
and Inner Mora nxt Vengines. This was like, this is

3246
02:24:26,559 --> 02:24:28,799
just like a five star match for me. And it's

3247
02:24:28,879 --> 02:24:32,000
only like I went back and looked, it's only like

3248
02:24:32,440 --> 02:24:34,840
it's less than fifteen minutes long. But I mean that's

3249
02:24:34,879 --> 02:24:38,079
what I love, just like these short, awesome matches, and

3250
02:24:38,520 --> 02:24:40,399
that one just stuck to me for the whole year

3251
02:24:40,440 --> 02:24:42,799
because it was just like it was just an awesome match.

3252
02:24:42,840 --> 02:24:45,239
I remember they just did some crazy stuff in there.

3253
02:24:45,760 --> 02:24:45,959
Speaker 3: Yeah.

3254
02:24:46,520 --> 02:24:51,040
Speaker 4: Four, I've gave Kid versus Kenny omegat Wressell Dynasty because

3255
02:24:51,079 --> 02:24:53,399
this is like, this is a great time just watching

3256
02:24:53,440 --> 02:24:56,520
it live and just like how long it was going

3257
02:24:56,600 --> 02:24:59,959
on when we were in the discord just talking about

3258
02:25:00,120 --> 02:25:02,799
the show, and this is a this is just an

3259
02:25:03,040 --> 02:25:05,399
and I'll see this is Kenny's return match after being

3260
02:25:05,479 --> 02:25:07,959
injured for so long, and to see him come back

3261
02:25:08,000 --> 02:25:13,840
and have this insane match, which just great. Three I

3262
02:25:13,879 --> 02:25:17,479
have Cody versus CeNAT Summer Slam, because this to me

3263
02:25:17,719 --> 02:25:22,239
just like completely redeems their wrestling match and this is

3264
02:25:22,360 --> 02:25:24,879
just awesome, like you said, that's final sequence of just

3265
02:25:25,079 --> 02:25:29,719
like super Cody versus Supersena, just kicking out of everything,

3266
02:25:30,239 --> 02:25:32,840
tearing down the ropes and putting Cody in the STF,

3267
02:25:33,079 --> 02:25:35,840
people in the crowd like by the end, like people

3268
02:25:35,920 --> 02:25:38,680
wanted Seena to win this, Like when it's Cody in

3269
02:25:38,760 --> 02:25:42,120
the STF with the rope, the pop is insane, Like

3270
02:25:42,440 --> 02:25:45,040
he probably got a bigger pop there than Cody got

3271
02:25:45,120 --> 02:25:46,959
for winning the title at the end of the match,

3272
02:25:47,440 --> 02:25:51,280
because it was just like Loston Casina turned face like

3273
02:25:51,399 --> 02:25:54,319
literally like two nights but more randomly, and now he

3274
02:25:54,479 --> 02:25:57,719
was back to being good guy Sena and Supersena and

3275
02:25:57,920 --> 02:26:01,280
this was just like maybe one of the all time

3276
02:26:01,360 --> 02:26:04,360
peaks of super Scena in terms of what he picked

3277
02:26:04,399 --> 02:26:07,000
out of and what he did in this match. Two

3278
02:26:07,520 --> 02:26:11,799
at Ria versus EO at Evolution, Uh, this is just

3279
02:26:12,040 --> 02:26:14,920
like just an awesome main event, like they did like

3280
02:26:15,040 --> 02:26:18,319
the true like ww main event style that they get.

3281
02:26:18,399 --> 02:26:20,639
They let the men do, they let the women do

3282
02:26:20,799 --> 02:26:23,879
here with the crowd fighting and EO jumping off the

3283
02:26:23,959 --> 02:26:25,440
thing in the crowd. I hones say all the stuff

3284
02:26:25,479 --> 02:26:27,920
in ring the ref bumps, you know, they did all

3285
02:26:27,959 --> 02:26:30,760
the stuff that that a main event should do, and

3286
02:26:30,840 --> 02:26:33,680
honestly ending with Naomi cashing in, which I had as

3287
02:26:33,719 --> 02:26:36,319
one of my best moments. So at number one, I

3288
02:26:36,360 --> 02:26:39,120
had the match that, honestly, I think if people ask

3289
02:26:39,239 --> 02:26:41,440
me what my favorite match of all time is, I

3290
02:26:41,479 --> 02:26:44,680
would probably say this one, which is Ria versus Bianca

3291
02:26:44,840 --> 02:26:47,959
versus EO at Wrestlevania. And I'm already talked about it

3292
02:26:48,040 --> 02:26:50,159
so much so many other times that I don't even

3293
02:26:50,159 --> 02:26:51,399
have to say anything else about it.

3294
02:26:52,000 --> 02:26:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, David, what are your match or matches?

3295
02:26:55,920 --> 02:26:56,239
All right?

3296
02:26:56,399 --> 02:26:58,280
Speaker 6: So two honorable mentions.

3297
02:26:58,360 --> 02:27:01,760
Speaker 2: That's Cody Versusena at some guests is the better match,

3298
02:27:01,879 --> 02:27:03,639
and I love Cody's entrance.

3299
02:27:03,399 --> 02:27:04,000
Speaker 6: On that match.

3300
02:27:05,680 --> 02:27:10,799
Speaker 2: And then I have will Ospray versus Swerves Strickland as well.

3301
02:27:11,000 --> 02:27:13,079
Speaker 6: Under my honorable mentions, my.

3302
02:27:14,719 --> 02:27:19,639
Speaker 2: Top five would be Kenny versus Gabe Kid from New

3303
02:27:19,719 --> 02:27:23,680
Japan that was just like Kenny going back to being

3304
02:27:23,760 --> 02:27:29,000
New Japan, Kenny Osprey versus Hangman in the at Double,

3305
02:27:29,040 --> 02:27:34,040
and nothing for the Owen hart Uh Hangman versus Mocks

3306
02:27:34,200 --> 02:27:38,680
for the Championship, like just everything from Hangman's entrance with

3307
02:27:38,920 --> 02:27:44,159
the lady doing the whistling for it, the old school music,

3308
02:27:44,280 --> 02:27:48,120
him winning everything with that is great. Then the Women's

3309
02:27:48,159 --> 02:27:51,200
WrestleMania Triple Threat that was just a banger of a match.

3310
02:27:51,760 --> 02:27:54,520
And my best match of the year is the Hollywood

3311
02:27:54,600 --> 02:27:58,600
Ending because everything about that match, I mean, the only

3312
02:27:58,680 --> 02:28:01,959
thing that would have made that better is card placement.

3313
02:28:02,319 --> 02:28:04,319
There's nothing that I think could have made that match

3314
02:28:04,440 --> 02:28:06,280
better other than its placement on the card.

3315
02:28:06,360 --> 02:28:09,639
Speaker 6: That was just an amazing, amazing match.

3316
02:28:10,399 --> 02:28:13,920
Speaker 1: Okay, no, I might have one of those somewhere, but okay,

3317
02:28:14,040 --> 02:28:15,959
So for honorable mentions, I got five of them. I

3318
02:28:16,040 --> 02:28:18,200
got Brodino versus Young Bucks I talked about in the

3319
02:28:18,280 --> 02:28:21,040
Tech Team. They just randomly had this amazing match on

3320
02:28:21,200 --> 02:28:24,120
Dynamite that I absolutely loved, as I just fully bought in.

3321
02:28:24,319 --> 02:28:27,280
I did have Cody and Super Cody and Super Sena

3322
02:28:27,280 --> 02:28:31,200
at Summer Slam's Honorable mention. I got the the Ria

3323
02:28:31,520 --> 02:28:33,959
versus EO and then the Naomi Cash in there because

3324
02:28:33,959 --> 02:28:36,399
I just I feel the same way about it as

3325
02:28:36,399 --> 02:28:38,559
I do. Is Rock in Austin seventeen that they're having

3326
02:28:38,639 --> 02:28:40,399
like the greatest wrestum in main event and then like the.

3327
02:28:40,520 --> 02:28:43,079
Speaker 3: Endings way, it's just like same things, Like it's still great.

3328
02:28:42,920 --> 02:28:45,879
Speaker 1: That Iomi and the cash and happens, but I honestly

3329
02:28:45,920 --> 02:28:48,079
wanted the result of the of the end, like I

3330
02:28:48,159 --> 02:28:50,680
wanted like that full pin and then the cash and after,

3331
02:28:50,799 --> 02:28:52,639
but still deserves it there and I could probably make

3332
02:28:52,639 --> 02:28:53,799
an argument for me in the top five.

3333
02:28:53,879 --> 02:28:57,639
Speaker 3: There where did my list go? I went away? I

3334
02:28:57,760 --> 02:29:00,440
got actually this one.

3335
02:29:00,479 --> 02:29:04,280
Speaker 1: I really liked Bailey, Becky and Lyra that Evolution Triple

3336
02:29:04,319 --> 02:29:06,719
Threat as well. Obviously not as good as the other ones,

3337
02:29:06,760 --> 02:29:11,799
but still I had Moxley and Adam Paige more so

3338
02:29:11,920 --> 02:29:13,719
big moments we kind of knew it was gonna happen,

3339
02:29:14,040 --> 02:29:15,079
but still a good time.

3340
02:29:15,239 --> 02:29:19,200
Speaker 3: And then I had Takesha versus Ishi. I'm not sure

3341
02:29:19,200 --> 02:29:21,639
you guys remember this, but that was the same yeah

3342
02:29:21,680 --> 02:29:25,600
that wrestled Dynasty Show and just Ishy and Takesha just

3343
02:29:25,639 --> 02:29:28,079
had like this random like four point five, just like

3344
02:29:28,200 --> 02:29:30,239
banging each other up. So I really like that. But

3345
02:29:30,479 --> 02:29:33,239
uh yeah, my top five is I got Punked and

3346
02:29:33,360 --> 02:29:36,840
Gunther four. I got Tony and Maria at the Hood

3347
02:29:36,920 --> 02:29:39,200
Ending three, I got hang in Osprey. Two.

3348
02:29:39,440 --> 02:29:41,799
Speaker 1: I got the WRESTLEMANI a triple threat with Ria EO

3349
02:29:41,879 --> 02:29:43,639
and Bianca, which yeah, I'd say is probably the greatest

3350
02:29:43,680 --> 02:29:45,360
triple threat of all time. I'd have to think about it,

3351
02:29:45,440 --> 02:29:45,959
but it's up.

3352
02:29:45,840 --> 02:29:48,799
Speaker 3: There and this is more sentimental. But I got Gabe

3353
02:29:48,920 --> 02:29:49,399
and Kenny.

3354
02:29:49,479 --> 02:29:51,360
Speaker 1: I have to see Kenny the three again. I have

3355
02:29:51,399 --> 02:29:53,879
to see if my goat like, because I was worried.

3356
02:29:54,319 --> 02:29:55,559
I was like, man, what's it gonna be?

3357
02:29:55,680 --> 02:29:57,319
Speaker 3: And they I know gave Kid is more of a

3358
02:29:57,399 --> 02:29:59,079
brawler and a fighter, but I didn't think they were

3359
02:29:59,079 --> 02:29:59,799
gonna have this match.

3360
02:30:00,120 --> 02:30:02,360
Speaker 1: I didn't think Kenny's first match back after a tip

3361
02:30:02,399 --> 02:30:05,159
of Tickeolitis was gonna be this stuff. And it was crazy.

3362
02:30:05,200 --> 02:30:07,920
And it's like David says, where I love aw been

3363
02:30:07,959 --> 02:30:10,159
there the whole time. I'll be there till it keeps

3364
02:30:10,200 --> 02:30:14,200
going or dies. But there's that Japan or yeah, there's

3365
02:30:14,440 --> 02:30:16,879
Kenny has never been that same restive he has been

3366
02:30:16,920 --> 02:30:18,559
in Japan that he has been in AW.

3367
02:30:18,639 --> 02:30:19,200
Speaker 3: I think AW.

3368
02:30:19,680 --> 02:30:21,520
Speaker 1: I don't know why, whether it's why t k book

3369
02:30:21,559 --> 02:30:23,440
somewhere he's more around his like I guess he was

3370
02:30:23,479 --> 02:30:25,239
his friend around his friends of Japan. There's just somewhere

3371
02:30:25,280 --> 02:30:29,120
he can still be great in top tier, but new Japan, Kenny,

3372
02:30:29,280 --> 02:30:30,840
there's something that's.

3373
02:30:30,719 --> 02:30:31,680
Speaker 3: A god level tier.

3374
02:30:31,719 --> 02:30:34,040
Speaker 1: There's just something in the air where it's just and

3375
02:30:34,239 --> 02:30:36,239
just I don't think this is true, but it just

3376
02:30:36,479 --> 02:30:38,399
like he takes it more serious in Japan. I don't

3377
02:30:38,440 --> 02:30:40,600
know why that is, but there's just something about him.

3378
02:30:40,639 --> 02:30:43,360
So it was that and just the opposite en we're

3379
02:30:43,360 --> 02:30:45,280
game kids like this, I don't give a fuck. I'm

3380
02:30:45,280 --> 02:30:46,879
gonna just like I'm gonna kill this guy.

3381
02:30:47,280 --> 02:30:49,760
Speaker 3: And he won too, Like Kenny winning wud surprised me too,

3382
02:30:49,879 --> 02:30:51,840
So I'm hoping we can recapture some of that.

3383
02:30:51,879 --> 02:30:54,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, Gabe and Kenny, I remember saw that that.

3384
02:30:54,360 --> 02:30:55,799
Like you said, I suppose it was late and we

3385
02:30:55,879 --> 02:30:57,959
were in the discord and just being blown away and

3386
02:30:58,040 --> 02:31:00,399
it was like a long match too, and from the

3387
02:31:00,600 --> 02:31:01,520
first weekend.

3388
02:31:02,479 --> 02:31:05,520
Speaker 4: Long and it's felt like twenty like I remember specifically,

3389
02:31:05,639 --> 02:31:07,680
it felt like it had been like ten minutes, and

3390
02:31:07,879 --> 02:31:10,319
like the announcers that are like like forty minutes of

3391
02:31:10,440 --> 02:31:12,639
past or something like that. Oh yeah, they're just going

3392
02:31:12,719 --> 02:31:13,120
all out.

3393
02:31:13,520 --> 02:31:15,200
Speaker 1: I remember because I was supposed to play call dude

3394
02:31:15,200 --> 02:31:17,159
at the boys, like, oh give me twenty five minutes

3395
02:31:17,159 --> 02:31:18,239
and I'll be on and it kept.

3396
02:31:18,159 --> 02:31:20,040
Speaker 3: Going and I'm like, I'm gonna be a little late.

3397
02:31:20,159 --> 02:31:22,680
I me like, yeah, so no, that was uh that

3398
02:31:22,799 --> 02:31:23,719
was my favorite of the year.

3399
02:31:23,719 --> 02:31:26,879
Speaker 1: But yeah, lots of lot this this like there's tons

3400
02:31:26,879 --> 02:31:28,799
of other matches I know I left off and stuff

3401
02:31:28,840 --> 02:31:30,280
and we left off that were just great.

3402
02:31:30,319 --> 02:31:33,000
Speaker 3: So good to your first im in rings. So there

3403
02:31:33,040 --> 02:31:34,959
you go. We have done it, so we would be yeah,

3404
02:31:34,959 --> 02:31:36,520
we should be back. Maybe we'll be back for like

3405
02:31:36,600 --> 02:31:38,920
a smaller episode because well, I'm just seeing what because

3406
02:31:39,000 --> 02:31:41,639
I know we talked Rumble. I yeah, so maybe we've

3407
02:31:41,680 --> 02:31:43,959
got for smaller episode. Worst case that we can't do

3408
02:31:44,000 --> 02:31:46,879
an episode before Rumble in our chat, we will do

3409
02:31:47,040 --> 02:31:48,760
our We can do our changes.

3410
02:31:48,440 --> 02:31:50,000
Speaker 1: Because I have to see those next few weeks, so

3411
02:31:50,120 --> 02:31:52,760
we can always do the changes there and then announce

3412
02:31:52,799 --> 02:31:55,280
them on the Rumble Show because we know the order

3413
02:31:55,319 --> 02:31:58,600
of right now it's David S. Bobs than myself, so

3414
02:31:58,719 --> 02:32:00,120
we can do that. So if there's no Apple, so

3415
02:32:00,360 --> 02:32:02,719
there's for sure gonna be one Rumble weekend, whether it's

3416
02:32:02,719 --> 02:32:05,360
the thirty first or February first, if there's another in

3417
02:32:05,360 --> 02:32:07,200
the middle kind of tvd on some schedules, and also

3418
02:32:07,239 --> 02:32:09,120
just see how many topics and stuff there will be.

3419
02:32:09,239 --> 02:32:11,000
But yeah, we'll be back and stay in the gym

3420
02:32:11,079 --> 02:32:12,520
and we'll figure that out at some point. But yeah,

3421
02:32:12,559 --> 02:32:14,840
we'll be back. There we go big catch up on

3422
02:32:14,879 --> 02:32:17,159
the air, our best of thank you gemmen for joining

3423
02:32:17,159 --> 02:32:19,120
me as always is a good time and we will

3424
02:32:19,159 --> 02:32:20,799
be back in a couple of weeks and it won't

3425
02:32:20,840 --> 02:32:21,200
be boring.

3426
02:32:22,200 --> 02:32:22,239
Speaker 4: My