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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bedtime Astronomy. Explore the wonders of the cosmos

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<v Speaker 1>with our soothing Bedtime Astronomie podcast. Each episode offers a

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<v Speaker 1>gentle journey through the stars, planets, and beyond, perfect for

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<v Speaker 1>unwinding after a long day. Let's travel through the mysteries

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe as you drift off into a peaceful

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<v Speaker 1>slumber under the night sky.

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<v Speaker 2>If you look up at the Milky Way tonight, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you might think you're looking at a peaceful, eternal home.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, absolutely right, like just a.

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<v Speaker 2>Quiet neighborhood of stars that has well always been there,

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<v Speaker 2>totally untouched and unchanging.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is the common assumption.

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<v Speaker 2>But you aren't. You are looking at, honestly, a cosmic

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<v Speaker 2>crime scene. It is built entirely from the shredded corpses

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<v Speaker 2>of other galaxies.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a beautifully grim way to put it, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's totally accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>Today our mission is to act as galactic forensic investigators.

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<v Speaker 2>We are tracking down the ghost of a lost, ancient

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<v Speaker 2>dwarf galaxy that astronomers are calling Loki.

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<v Speaker 3>And the most unsettling part is that it isn't millions

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<v Speaker 3>of light years away.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>It is hiding right here, like completely embedded within the

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<v Speaker 3>structure of our own milky Way, right above our heads.

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<v Speaker 2>It's wild. It completely reframes how you look at the.

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<v Speaker 3>Night sky, it really does. And I want to establish

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<v Speaker 3>the stakes here right at the outset, because trekking down

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<v Speaker 3>Loki isn't just about you know, cataloging a few anomalous.

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<v Speaker 2>Stars, right, It's bigger than that.

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<v Speaker 3>Way bigger. It is about fundamentally rewriting our understanding of

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<v Speaker 3>how galaxies actually grow.

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<v Speaker 2>So we are literally reading the forensic evidence left behind

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<v Speaker 2>by the universe's earliest building blocks exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>We're looking at this groundbreaking work by Federico Sostino and

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<v Speaker 3>his colleagues. Yeah, and this is really about peering back

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<v Speaker 3>to the most violent epochs of the cosmos to understand

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<v Speaker 3>the literal architecture of our own existence.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's start with that architecture, because to even comprehend

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<v Speaker 2>where this lost galaxy Loki came from, we have to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of shatter the illusion of the Milky.

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<v Speaker 3>Way, the majestic spiral illusion, right.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea that it just I don't know, popped into existence,

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<v Speaker 2>is this solitary, majestic thing. The harsh reality is that

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<v Speaker 2>our galaxy is a cannibal. A cannibal add to eat

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<v Speaker 2>to grow.

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<v Speaker 3>Cannibal is definitely the most accurate, if slightly gruesome, way

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<v Speaker 3>to describe it. In extra physics, we call it hierarchical

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<v Speaker 3>galaxy formation, right, because the Milky Way did not form

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<v Speaker 3>an isolation as this gargante wind structure we see today.

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<v Speaker 3>It grew over billions.

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<v Speaker 2>Of years by eating smaller guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly by consuming smaller galaxies. Astronomers politely refer to this

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<v Speaker 3>as merging, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that term is doing a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>heavy lifting.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it wildly misrepresents the physics involved.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, because merging makes it sound like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>two companies shaking hands into green to share an office.

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<v Speaker 3>Building, the very peaceful corporate merger.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a neat mutual agreement. But I imagine the mechanics

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<v Speaker 2>of these earthactic gatbox where anything but neat.

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<v Speaker 3>Far from it. When we look back at the early universe,

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<v Speaker 3>we see these smaller systems, these dwarf.

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<v Speaker 2>Galaxies, the little guys.

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<v Speaker 3>The little guys. Yeah, and they served as the foundational

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<v Speaker 3>building blocks of the cosmos.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So as.

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<v Speaker 3>The Protomilky Way began to grow. Its immense gravitational well

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<v Speaker 3>would essentially catch these smaller galaxies like a spider web

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<v Speaker 3>sort of, but much more violent, because when a dwarf

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<v Speaker 3>galaxy falls in, it doesn't just slide neatly into a

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<v Speaker 3>designated orbit.

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<v Speaker 2>What happens to.

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<v Speaker 3>It It encounters something called tidal forces.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, like the tides on Earth, like the Moon pulling

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<v Speaker 2>the oceans.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly like that, but on a massive, terrifying galactic scale.

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<v Speaker 3>The gravity on the side of the dwarf galaxy closest

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<v Speaker 3>to the Milky Way is pulled significantly harder than the

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, so it's literally being.

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<v Speaker 3>Stretched, stretched, until it hits a critical breaking point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that sounds intense.

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<v Speaker 3>It is. The immense tidal forces of our growing galaxy

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<v Speaker 3>would literally tear the incoming dwarf galaxy apart. It is

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<v Speaker 3>a complete dissolution of the original structure.

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<v Speaker 2>So they don't survive the fall, not at all.

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<v Speaker 3>They disperse everything they have. They're stellar populations, they're vast

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<v Speaker 3>reservoirs of interstellar gas. They're halos of dark matter just

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<v Speaker 3>gone violently stripped away and scattered directly into the chaotic

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<v Speaker 3>swirling mass of our forming proto galaxy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to picture the sheer scale of that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard to wrap your head around.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, Okay, imagine having a sprawling metropolis, let's say

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<v Speaker 2>Tokyo or London. Okay, good analogy, and this city slowly

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<v Speaker 2>expands outward over the centuries. As it grows, it swallows

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<v Speaker 2>up all these independent neighboring farming towns. Right, But it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't just annex them, you know. It bulldozes their town halls,

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<v Speaker 2>rips up their roads, and completely disperses their populations into the.

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<v Speaker 3>City grid until you can't even tell where the original

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<v Speaker 3>city ended and the farming towns began exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>The city just absorbs the raw materials and the people

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<v Speaker 2>and completely erases the original borders.

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<v Speaker 3>The structural integrity of those independent towns is just gone forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's unpack this, because here is where I really

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<v Speaker 2>struggle with the whole galactic archaeology concept.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, lagh it on me.

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<v Speaker 2>If the Milky Way completely shredded these smaller galaxies, if

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<v Speaker 2>it pays over those farming towns and violently mixed everything

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<v Speaker 2>into a metropolitan soup, right, how is it even physically

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<v Speaker 2>possible to recognize what used to be a separate galaxy.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, that is the million dollar question.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, if I'm looking at one hundred billion stars in

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<v Speaker 2>the Milky Way, how can astronomer's point to a specific

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<v Speaker 2>star and definitively say that one right there used to

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<v Speaker 2>belong to a completely different ancient galaxy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a brilliant question, honestly, because looking at the Milky

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<v Speaker 3>Way today, it really does just look like a homogeneous soup.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a big glowing disc exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But it turns out the universe leaves indelible fingerprints.

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<v Speaker 2>Fingerprints.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the initial violent shredding destroys the galaxy's overall structure,

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<v Speaker 3>but it doesn't actually just droy the individual stars themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I see, the buildings are gone, but the people

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<v Speaker 2>are still walking.

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<v Speaker 3>Around precisely, and astronomers hunt for these absorbed alien stars

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<v Speaker 3>using two incredibly powerful, highly specific clues, which are the

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<v Speaker 3>eccentricities of their galactic orbits and their chemical composition orbit

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<v Speaker 3>in chemistry, orbit in chemistry.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's tackle the orbit first, because I think the

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<v Speaker 2>common assumption, at least for me, is that all the

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<v Speaker 2>stars in the Milky Way are essentially just swirling around

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<v Speaker 2>the galactic center in one big, flat, orderly carousel.

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<v Speaker 3>And for the vast majority of stars born natively within

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<v Speaker 3>our galaxy's disc, that is generally true.

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<v Speaker 2>They behave themselves, right.

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<v Speaker 3>They form out of the same rotating disc of gas,

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<v Speaker 3>and because of the conservation of angular momentum, they move together.

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<v Speaker 2>They travel in relatively predictable circular paths around the galactic center.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. They are the native population.

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<v Speaker 2>So going back to the city thing, they are like

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<v Speaker 2>cars driving smoothly along a multi lane highway. Yes, everyone

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<v Speaker 2>is going the same direction, staying in their lanes, moving

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<v Speaker 2>with the general flow.

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<v Speaker 3>Of traffic, exactly. But when you meticulously map the billions

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<v Speaker 3>of stars moving through our galaxy, which by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>requires measuring not just their two dimensional position in the

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<v Speaker 3>sky but their three D velocity and.

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<v Speaker 2>Trajectory, which is an insane amount of data.

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<v Speaker 3>It is. But when you do that you occasionally find

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<v Speaker 3>glaring anomalies, like what you find stars with highly eccentric orbits.

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<v Speaker 2>Now eccentric in this context doesn't mean the star has

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<v Speaker 2>a quirky personality.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, we are talking about the physical geometry of

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<v Speaker 3>its path, right, Instead of a nice flat circular orbit

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<v Speaker 3>that stays neatly within the galactic plane, these stars are

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<v Speaker 3>on wildly irregular, highly elliptical paths.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that look like in three D space?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they might plunge straight down vertically through the galactic.

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<v Speaker 2>Disk, just straight through the carousel exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Or they might sweep incredibly far out into the distant,

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<v Speaker 3>sparse galactic halo before diving aggressive back toward the intensely

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<v Speaker 3>crowded center.

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<v Speaker 2>So, going back to the highway analogy, an eccentric orbit

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<v Speaker 2>isn't just a car changing lanes.

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<v Speaker 3>No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a car completely ignoring the existence of the road.

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<v Speaker 2>It's swerving perpendicularly across the median, cutting straight through the

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<v Speaker 2>flow of.

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<v Speaker 3>Traffic, completely disconnected from the direction everyone else is traveling.

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<v Speaker 3>That is terrifying, right, And if you see a vehicle

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<v Speaker 3>doing that on a highway, your immediate logical conclusion is

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<v Speaker 3>that the car didn't merge onto this road normally.

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<v Speaker 2>It definitely didn't accelerate down the on ramp exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Something must have violently thrown it across the lanes. A crash,

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<v Speaker 3>a cosmic crash. In galactic kinematics, a highly eccentric orbit

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<v Speaker 3>is the lingering kinetic scar of an ancient outside collision. Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>what's fascinating here is that it is a dead giveaway

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<v Speaker 3>that the star did not originate from the peaceful native disk.

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<v Speaker 2>The scale of that investigation is staggering to me. You

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<v Speaker 2>are literally looking at a catalog of billions of moving

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<v Speaker 2>points of life billions. Yeah, trying to isolate the few

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<v Speaker 2>dozen that are driving across the median.

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<v Speaker 3>It takes meticulous patients.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to track their current x, y, and z

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<v Speaker 2>coordinates in a three dimensional map of space, measure their

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<v Speaker 2>radio velocity, and then what rewind their mathematical packs millions

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<v Speaker 2>of years into the past just to.

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<v Speaker 3>See where they came from. Yes, the kinematic mapping is

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<v Speaker 3>a monumental achievement in modern astronomy.

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<v Speaker 2>But wait, didn't you say orbit was only one clue

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<v Speaker 2>I did?

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<v Speaker 3>Orbit alone isn't enough to secure a conviction?

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<v Speaker 2>Why not? If a star is plunging vertically through the disc,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't that proof enough that it's an alien interloper?

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<v Speaker 3>Well not necessarily, Yeah, no, because a native star could

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<v Speaker 3>theoretically be violently kicked into a bizarre orbit by a

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<v Speaker 3>localized internal event.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh like a domestic dispute instead of a foreign invasion.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great way to put it, like a nearby

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<v Speaker 3>supernova explosion could blast a native star off course, right,

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<v Speaker 3>or a gravitational interaction with a passing giant molecular.

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<v Speaker 2>Cloud or a black hole, or a.

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<v Speaker 3>Close encounter with a black hole exactly any of those

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<v Speaker 3>could disrupt a native star's circular path.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so a weird orbit makes it a suspect, but

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<v Speaker 2>not definitely guilty.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. So to definitively prove a star is an alien

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<v Speaker 3>artifact from a consumed dwarf galaxy like Loki, that wild

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<v Speaker 3>orbit has to be paired with our second clue.

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<v Speaker 2>The chemical forensics.

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<v Speaker 3>The chemical forensics, right.

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<v Speaker 2>The chemistry, and to understand why chemical forensics can identify

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<v Speaker 2>a star as an ancient outsider, I feel like we

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<v Speaker 2>need to take a detour.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 3>The star, right, It's about what elements aren't.

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<v Speaker 2>There, which brings us to stellar nuclear synthesis.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's bypass the absolute basics here, because we know

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<v Speaker 3>And helium, just a very boring, simple soup.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And we know stars act as fusion actors, But

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<v Speaker 2>the concept of chemical generations is what matters here, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And these stars were massive. They burned fast, and when

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<v Speaker 2>So they basically seeded the surrounding space with a brand

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<v Speaker 3>They did they polluted the pristine gas.

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<v Speaker 2>So the next generation of stars that formed out of

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. They started life with a slightly more complex chemical

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<v Speaker 2>Their lives fused even heavier elements exploded and handed an

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<v Speaker 3>It is an ongoing multi billion year cosmic recycling program.

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<v Speaker 2>Star, which is why if you look at its chemical spectrum,

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, But astronomers use a specific, somewhat idiosyncratic terminology to

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, what do they call it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, in astrophysics, anything heavier than helium on the periodic

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<v Speaker 2>Is completely wild. No, I know, like to a chemist,

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<v Speaker 2>calling oxygen or neon a metal is grounds for having

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it drives chemists absolutely crazy, But for us, it

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so if everything heavier than helium is a metal,

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<v Speaker 2>how does that help us find old stars?

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<v Speaker 3>Because astronomers refer to stars with relatively small amounts of

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<v Speaker 3>these heavier elements, specifically elements like iron, as metal.

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<v Speaker 2>Poor, metal poor. So what does this all mean for

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<v Speaker 2>our investigation?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this is the crux of the chemical fingerprint, because

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<v Speaker 3>if you find a star that is extremely metal poor.

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<v Speaker 2>It means it didn't get the good stuff exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>It means it did not have the benefit of many

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<v Speaker 2>So it must be incredibly old.

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<v Speaker 3>It must have formed very very early in the universe's

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<v Speaker 2>That is so cool. An extremely metal poor star is

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<v Speaker 2>essentially a rough draft of a star.

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<v Speaker 3>A rough draft. Yes, it is a literal fossil from

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<v Speaker 3>the dawn of time, sitting right there in our galaxy,

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<v Speaker 3>virtually untouched by the billions of years of chemical evolution

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<v Speaker 3>that happened everywhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>And those early metal poor dwarf galaxies were the exact

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we have the two pieces of our forensic toolkit.

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<v Speaker 3>We do.

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<v Speaker 2>We are hunting for ancient fossilized metal poor stars, and

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<v Speaker 2>we need them to be flying around of bizarre, highly

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<v Speaker 2>eccentric orbits. Check. The next hurdle, though, is the sheer

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<v Speaker 3>The spatial problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, where do you even begin sweeping for them? The

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and geography and timing are intrinsically linked in galaxy formation. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>if we consider the timeline of how the Milky Way

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<v Speaker 3>dwarf galaxies like Loki, they merged into the forming proto

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<v Speaker 2>They were the first bricks in the foundation.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. And because they were drawn into the gravitational well

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<v Speaker 3>so early, the remnants of those systems, they're dispersed.

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<v Speaker 2>Stars should logically sink toward the bottom.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, they should populate the deepest inner regions of the

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<v Speaker 3>Milky Way. They should be trapped in the dense core

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<v Speaker 2>That makes perfect physical sense. The material that falls in

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<v Speaker 3>It's just gravity doing its job.

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<v Speaker 2>Conversely, the dwarf galaxies that were consumed much later on,

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<v Speaker 2>expansive spherical outer.

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<v Speaker 3>Halo because they couldn't penetrate as deeply.

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<v Speaker 2>So the geographical rule of thumb should be early building

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<v Speaker 2>blocks and the dense inner plane late arrivals scattered in

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<v Speaker 3>That was the standard model.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but I hear a butt coming.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, a massive butt. When astronomers actually conducted massive surveys

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<v Speaker 3>of the galaxy looking for these extremely metal poor stars,

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<v Speaker 3>they ran headfirst into a massive, frustrating anomaly.

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<v Speaker 2>The map didn't match the territory at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Not even slightly.

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<v Speaker 2>What did they find.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they found very much metal poor star, sure, but frustratingly,

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<v Speaker 3>almost all of them were being found far out in

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<v Speaker 3>the outer halo. Wait what Yeah, astronomers were desperately searching

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<v Speaker 3>the inner galactic plane, where the oldest building blocks fundamentally

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<v Speaker 3>should be, and they just weren't finding them, not.

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<v Speaker 2>In the numbers that their hierarchical models predicted exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a severe mismatch.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, Okay, imagine excavating the foundation of an ancient ruin. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you dig down expecting to find Roman bricks, but you

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<v Speaker 2>find absolutely nothing but modern concrete. And then you realize

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<v Speaker 2>all the oldest original Roman bricks are inexplicably scattered out

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<v Speaker 2>in the surrounding grassy fields miles away.

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<v Speaker 3>It completely upends the logic of how the structure was built.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a literal crisis for galactic archaeologists, and it

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<v Speaker 3>forced the scientific community to start making some very complex,

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<v Speaker 3>somewhat strain assumptions to explain the discrepancy.

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<v Speaker 2>Because scientists hate a vacuum, we really do.

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<v Speaker 3>We need an explanations.

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<v Speaker 2>So what was the strained assumption.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, astronomers noticed that the few metal poor stars they

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<v Speaker 3>did manage to find deep in the galactic plane often

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<v Speaker 3>had retrograde orbits.

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<v Speaker 2>Retrograde meaning they are orbiting the center of the galaxy backward. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>they're moving in complete opposition to the general rotational flow

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<v Speaker 2>of the Milky Way's.

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<v Speaker 3>Disc exactly so, because they needed an explanation for why

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<v Speaker 3>these ancient stores were so rare in the plane, the

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<v Speaker 3>prevailing theory became that retrograde stars in the plane were

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<v Speaker 3>the true rare remnants of early violent assembly.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you'd have to hit the galaxy pretty hard to

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<v Speaker 2>end up going backwards.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the logic. The idea was that an early

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<v Speaker 3>merger would be chaotic and violent enough to throw the

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<v Speaker 3>consumed stars into reverse.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and what about the ones going forward?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Meanwhile, pro grade stars, the ones moving forward harmoniously

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<v Speaker 3>with the disc's rotation, were assumed to have been added

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<v Speaker 3>much later by gentler accretion events that just naturally aligned

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<v Speaker 3>with the spinning disk.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, So they were basically forcing the puzzle pieces together

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<v Speaker 2>because they didn't have enough data.

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<v Speaker 3>They absolutely were. They looked at the few retrograde stars

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<v Speaker 3>they found and essentially declared a universal rule.

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<v Speaker 2>Prograde means one type of origin. Retrograde means a completely

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<v Speaker 2>different type of origin.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, they assumed you couldn't possibly have forward moving and

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<v Speaker 3>backward moving ancient stars originating from the same early event.

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<v Speaker 2>They thought it was physically impossible.

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<v Speaker 3>The assumption was incredibly rigid. Prograde and retrograde meant totally

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<v Speaker 3>different epochs and completely different progenitor galaxies.

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<v Speaker 2>And that rigid assumption that forced geographic disconnect is exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what makes this new study by Federico Ccido and his

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<v Speaker 2>team so monumental. It really is because they didn't just

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<v Speaker 2>find a missing puzzle piece. They found a puzzle piece

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<v Speaker 2>that completely breaks the previous picture of how our galaxy

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<v Speaker 3>It is a remarkable paradigm shifting finding. Cistito's team focused

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<v Speaker 3>specifically on sweeping the Milky Way's galactic plane, using highly

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<v Speaker 3>advanced spectroscopic surveys.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking deep in the concrete foundation.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly and against the odds of all previous searches, they

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<v Speaker 3>successfully isolated a sample of twenty strictly metal poor stars

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<v Speaker 3>located right there, deep in the plane.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty ancient heavy metal deficient fossil stars, yes, existing exactly

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<v Speaker 2>where the original gravitational theory said they should be, but

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<v Speaker 2>where actual observational surveys had previously failed to find them.

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<v Speaker 3>Finding them at all was a massive triumph.

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<v Speaker 2>But their mere presence wasn't the real shock, was it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it wasn't the shocking detail. The data point that

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<v Speaker 3>completely upended the models is how these twenty stars actually

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<v Speaker 3>behave kinematically, how they move, how they move. Here's where

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<v Speaker 3>it gets really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, lay it on me.

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<v Speaker 3>When Cistido's team looked at the orbital dynamics of these

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<v Speaker 3>twenty stars, they realized these fossils utterly defy what past

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<v Speaker 3>theories demanded in what way, well they all share those

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<v Speaker 3>high eccentricities we discussed, Right.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all swooping and plunging on wild nonsen circular paths

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<v Speaker 2>cutting across the medium.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but within this tight, exclusive group of twenty planar stars,

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<v Speaker 3>the team found both prograde stars orbiting with the galaxy's

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<v Speaker 3>rotation andy retrograde stars orbiting backward. Wait, really, yes, both

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<v Speaker 3>within the exact same sample.

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<v Speaker 2>That is insane. It completely shatters that deeply held assumption

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<v Speaker 2>that retrobrade and prograde planar stars must have come from

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<v Speaker 2>different epochs.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally shatters it. Here they are side by side, highly eccentric, ancient,

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<v Speaker 3>and moving in complete diametric opposition.

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<v Speaker 2>To one another. Imagine you're standing in the center of

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<v Speaker 2>a massive circular racetrack where millions of cars are all

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<v Speaker 2>driving clockwise. Okay, and you managed to spot a fleet

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty incredibly old vintage.

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<v Speaker 3>Cars the metal poor stars.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and they're swerving wildly across the lanes. But the

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<v Speaker 2>crazy part is some of these vintage cars are driving

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<v Speaker 2>clockwise and some of them are driving counterplockwise, accelerating street

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<v Speaker 2>into oncoming traffic.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be terrifying to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>But then when you look closely at their intricate paint jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>You realize they all belong to the exact same racing team.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a perfect visualization of the kinematic chaos, and

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<v Speaker 3>you have to stop and imagine the sheer, unfathomable magnitude

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<v Speaker 3>of the gravitational violence required to create that reality.

437
00:21:20.039 --> 00:21:20.799
<v Speaker 2>It bends the mind.

438
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<v Speaker 3>You have a single cohesive dwarf galaxy are racing team Loki.

439
00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:29.680
<v Speaker 3>It falls into the terrifying gravitational well of the early

440
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<v Speaker 3>Milky Way.

441
00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:32.480
<v Speaker 2>And it hits the tidal forces right.

442
00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:36.519
<v Speaker 3>The collision is so catastrophic that it doesn't just shred Loki.

443
00:21:36.759 --> 00:21:40.200
<v Speaker 3>It rips the dwarf galaxy apart so violently that half

444
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<v Speaker 3>of its stars are violently flung forward into prograde orbits,

445
00:21:43.480 --> 00:21:46.920
<v Speaker 3>and the other half are whipped brutally backward into retrograde orbits,

446
00:21:46.960 --> 00:21:49.440
<v Speaker 3>scattering them across the entire galactic plane.

447
00:21:49.480 --> 00:21:51.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, wait, slow down, I have to push back here.

448
00:21:51.200 --> 00:21:53.759
<v Speaker 2>So for it, How does finding stars moving in completely

449
00:21:53.799 --> 00:21:57.160
<v Speaker 2>opposite directions prove they are from the same galaxy?

450
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<v Speaker 3>What do you mean?

451
00:21:58.240 --> 00:22:00.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, if I see a car driving north in a

452
00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:03.640
<v Speaker 2>driving south, my first instinct is not, oh, they obviously

453
00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:04.799
<v Speaker 2>came from the same driveway.

454
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<v Speaker 3>Fairpoint.

455
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<v Speaker 2>It makes no intuitive physical sense. How did the gravity

456
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<v Speaker 2>of the Milky Way actually accomplish that? How does one

457
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<v Speaker 2>single object split into opposite orbital directions?

458
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<v Speaker 3>It is deeply counterintuitive, I agree, until you look at

459
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<v Speaker 3>the mechanics of tidal stripping during a galactic impact.

460
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<v Speaker 2>Walk me through it.

461
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<v Speaker 3>When a dwarf galaxy like Loki approaches the Milky Way,

462
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<v Speaker 3>it isn't a point mass, right, It isn't a single

463
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<v Speaker 3>solid rock.

464
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<v Speaker 2>No, It's a huge collection of stuff.

465
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<v Speaker 3>It is a sprawling collection of stars with its own

466
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<v Speaker 3>internal rotation and a massive halo of dark matter. As

467
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<v Speaker 3>it plunges into the Milky Way's gravitational field, the side

468
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<v Speaker 3>of Loki closest to the Milky Way is accelerated faster

469
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<v Speaker 3>than the side further away.

470
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<v Speaker 2>That's the stretching effect we talked to it earlier.

471
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but it is also interacting with the angular momentum

472
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<v Speaker 3>of the Milky Way's massive spinning disk.

473
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<v Speaker 2>So the disk is dragging on it.

474
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<v Speaker 3>Essentially.

475
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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

476
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<v Speaker 3>If Loki impacts the dis at a specific angle, what

477
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<v Speaker 3>astrophysicists call the inclination angle, the immense title shock can

478
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<v Speaker 3>literally unbind Loki's internal structure in a highly asymmetrical way.

479
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so what happens to the stars on the front.

480
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<v Speaker 3>The stars on the leading edge of Loki get accelerated

481
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<v Speaker 3>forward by the disk spin, adopting prograde orbits that align

482
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<v Speaker 3>with the Milky Way's rotation.

483
00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:23.119
<v Speaker 2>And the stars in the back, the.

484
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<v Speaker 3>Stars on the trailing edge lose angular momentum due to

485
00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:31.640
<v Speaker 3>dynamical friction. They get violently yanked backward, falling into retrograde orbits. Wow,

486
00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:35.720
<v Speaker 3>a single structural entity is essentially smeared completely across the

487
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<v Speaker 3>kinematic spectrum.

488
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<v Speaker 2>It is chaos, total, absolute chaos in the early Milky.

489
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<v Speaker 3>Way, It really was. But your skepticism is exactly the

490
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<v Speaker 3>right scientific response. Well, thank you, because if you are

491
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<v Speaker 3>going to make the extraordinary claim that these diametrically opposed

492
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<v Speaker 3>stars actually belong to the same original dwarf galaxy, you

493
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<v Speaker 3>cannot rely on orbital models alone.

494
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<v Speaker 2>You need the paint job from the race cars.

495
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, to prove these cars belong to the same

496
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<v Speaker 3>race team, Cistino's team had to look past the orbital

497
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<v Speaker 3>paradox and conduct a rigorous elemental chemical.

498
00:24:06.799 --> 00:24:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Autopsy, right, because the retrograde prograde split makes them look

499
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<v Speaker 2>totally unrelated. On the surface.

500
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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely so, the researchers had to compare the deep chemical

501
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<v Speaker 3>signatures of these twenty stars not just to each other,

502
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<v Speaker 3>but to stars out in the halo, to other known

503
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<v Speaker 3>consumed dwarf galaxies, and to highly complex simulated stellar populations.

504
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<v Speaker 2>That sounds like an incredible amount of processing.

505
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<v Speaker 3>Power, oh massive amounts of data. And this chemical autopsy

506
00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:37.559
<v Speaker 3>revealed a fascinating, deeply violent story about how the environment

507
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<v Speaker 3>that birthed these specific stars was enriched.

508
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<v Speaker 2>What does they find.

509
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<v Speaker 3>When they analyzed the elemental abundances, the specific ratios of

510
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<v Speaker 3>elements like carbon, magnesium, and calcium compared to iron, They

511
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<v Speaker 3>found a very distinct, incredibly aggressive chemical fingerprint.

512
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<v Speaker 2>What exactly does that fingerprint look like? What makes a

513
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<v Speaker 2>chemical signature aggressive?

514
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<v Speaker 3>The chemical enrichment of these twenty stars points exclusively lead

515
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<v Speaker 3>to extreme, highly energetic events. We are talking about the

516
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<v Speaker 3>ashes of high energy core collapse supernovae, which are the

517
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<v Speaker 3>explosive deaths of extremely massive stars.

518
00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:14.519
<v Speaker 2>The ones that live fast and die young.

519
00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:18.519
<v Speaker 3>Yes, we are also talking about hypernovae, which are even

520
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<v Speaker 3>more energetic explosions often associated with the core of a

521
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<v Speaker 3>massive star collapsing directly into a black hole. While the

522
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<v Speaker 3>eider layers detonate a hypernova.

523
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<v Speaker 2>That just sounds terrifying.

524
00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:32.880
<v Speaker 3>It is, And they also found signatures from fast rotating

525
00:25:32.920 --> 00:25:36.119
<v Speaker 3>massive stars that shed heavily enriched material into space at

526
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<v Speaker 3>incredible velocities, and even the catastrophic element forging collisions of

527
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<v Speaker 3>neutron stars.

528
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<v Speaker 2>So the environment that breth Loki wasn't some quiet stellar nursery.

529
00:25:46.839 --> 00:25:48.680
<v Speaker 3>No, it was essentially a cosmic war.

530
00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:52.759
<v Speaker 2>Zone, just continuous, devastating, high energy detonations rapidly seating the

531
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<v Speaker 2>gas clouds with these specific heavy elements.

532
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but in a forensic autopsy sometimes what is missing

533
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<v Speaker 3>is just as critical as what present. What was missing

534
00:26:01.400 --> 00:26:04.519
<v Speaker 3>in the complex chemical signature of these twenty stars there

535
00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:08.279
<v Speaker 3>is a crucial, glaring absence. There is absolutely no chemical

536
00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:09.920
<v Speaker 3>evidence of white dwarf explosions.

537
00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:14.359
<v Speaker 2>H Okay, stop. Why is that specific absence so important?

538
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<v Speaker 3>It's a huge clue.

539
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<v Speaker 2>What makes a white dwarf explosion chemically different from a

540
00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:23.119
<v Speaker 2>massive star going supernova? And why does its absence matter

541
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<v Speaker 2>to low key story.

542
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<v Speaker 3>It all comes down to the cosmic timeline and the

543
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<v Speaker 3>specific elements these explosions produce. The high energy events we

544
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<v Speaker 3>just talked about, massive core collapse, supernovae and hypernovae. Those

545
00:26:35.240 --> 00:26:39.079
<v Speaker 3>happen very very quickly on a cosmic scale because.

546
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<v Speaker 2>The massive stars burn their fuels so fast.

547
00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:44.559
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, massive stars burned through their nuclear fuel at an

548
00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:48.119
<v Speaker 3>astronomical rate. They live incredibly fast, and they die young,

549
00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:51.119
<v Speaker 3>usually detonating within just a few million years of forming.

550
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<v Speaker 2>They were the rock stars of the universe. Fast die young.

551
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<v Speaker 2>We have a brilliant.

552
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<v Speaker 3>Explosion exactly, and when they explode, they primarily produce what

553
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<v Speaker 3>we call alpha elements oxygen, magnesium, silicon, calcium.

554
00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:06.279
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that's the fast stuff. What about the white dwarfs.

555
00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:09.079
<v Speaker 3>A white dwarf explosion, known as a type IA supernova,

556
00:27:09.319 --> 00:27:12.759
<v Speaker 3>is a completely different beast, both chemically and temporarily.

557
00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:14.720
<v Speaker 2>Because they come from smaller stars. Right.

558
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.759
<v Speaker 3>A white dwarf is the incredibly dense, glowing remnant of

559
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<v Speaker 3>a smaller, less massive star, much like our own sun.

560
00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:25.240
<v Speaker 2>So for a star to even become a white dwarf,

561
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<v Speaker 2>it has to slowly burn through its fuel over billions

562
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<v Speaker 2>of years.

563
00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:32.480
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yes, it gently puffs off its outer layers and

564
00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:36.440
<v Speaker 3>leaves behind that dense core. It takes billions of years

565
00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:38.240
<v Speaker 3>just to form the white dwarf In the first place,

566
00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:41.759
<v Speaker 3>and then it explodes well eventually. For that white dwarf

567
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<v Speaker 3>to actually explode, it usually has to be locked in

568
00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:49.200
<v Speaker 3>a binary system, slowly agonizingly siphoning gas off a companion.

569
00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Star like a vampire star.

570
00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:53.759
<v Speaker 3>Exactly like a vampire, it pulls material onto its surface

571
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<v Speaker 3>until it reaches a precise mathematical threshold called the chaundrasecar.

572
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<v Speaker 2>Limit, and then boom.

573
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<v Speaker 3>Once it hits that mass, the entire white dwarf detonates

574
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<v Speaker 3>in a massive thermonuclear explosion.

575
00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Which produces a different chemical signature.

576
00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:09.920
<v Speaker 3>Yes, Type EA supernovae are the primary producers of iron

577
00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:12.839
<v Speaker 3>in the universe. But the crucial point is the delay

578
00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:13.599
<v Speaker 3>time distribution.

579
00:28:13.799 --> 00:28:16.720
<v Speaker 2>The delay time distribution meaning the time it takes for

580
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<v Speaker 2>all this to happen.

581
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:21.839
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it takes hundreds of millions, often billions of years

582
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<v Speaker 3>for a stellar population to start producing type IO white

583
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<v Speaker 3>dwarf explosion.

584
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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, I see it now. The timeline is baked

585
00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:30.400
<v Speaker 2>into the chemistry precisely.

586
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:34.200
<v Speaker 3>The fact that Loki stars show all the chemical ashes

587
00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:38.759
<v Speaker 3>of fast massive core collapse supernovae but completely lack the

588
00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:43.480
<v Speaker 3>distinct iron rich chemical ashes of slow white dwarf explosions

589
00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:47.119
<v Speaker 3>gives us a definitive, indisputable timeline.

590
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<v Speaker 2>It means Loki didn't survive long enough to see its

591
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:51.640
<v Speaker 2>smaller stars turn into white dwarfs and explode.

592
00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:55.480
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, Loki was incredibly short lived. It formed its initial

593
00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:58.640
<v Speaker 3>bursts of stars. Those massive stars detonated and enriched the

594
00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:02.079
<v Speaker 3>local environment with alpha elements, and then, and then, before

595
00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:05.000
<v Speaker 3>the slower white dwarfs had time to evolve, reach critical

596
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:08.799
<v Speaker 3>mass and contribute their unique iron signatures, the entire dwarf

597
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:12.119
<v Speaker 3>galaxy was swallowed and violently ripped apart by the Milky Way.

598
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:13.559
<v Speaker 2>It's star forming days were over.

599
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:15.799
<v Speaker 3>Its ability to hold onto its gas and cook new

600
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:17.960
<v Speaker 3>elements was abruptly and permanently terminated.

601
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:21.759
<v Speaker 2>It lived fast, died violently, and was completely dismantled before

602
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:23.559
<v Speaker 2>even had a chance to reach middle age.

603
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<v Speaker 3>It's sad when you think about it.

604
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<v Speaker 2>It is, but that is such a tragic, beautiful piece

605
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:31.759
<v Speaker 2>of forensic deduction. The absence of an element tells you

606
00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:33.759
<v Speaker 2>the exact moment the galaxy died.

607
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:37.720
<v Speaker 3>It really is elegant physics. But you know, Cistuido's team

608
00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:39.799
<v Speaker 3>had to push the autopsy even deeper.

609
00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:42.079
<v Speaker 2>Why wasn't that enough?

610
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:45.079
<v Speaker 3>Because they didn't just look at the types of explosions.

611
00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:48.880
<v Speaker 3>They looked at the precise uniformity of the resulting chemistry

612
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<v Speaker 3>across all twenty of these scattered stars.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this brings us to what the study refers to

614
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<v Speaker 2>as the closed system clue. Yes, because even with the

615
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<v Speaker 2>lack of white dwarf signatures and the presence of hypernovae,

616
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:03.599
<v Speaker 2>a hardened skeptic might still say, so what right?

617
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<v Speaker 3>They might ask, could these twenty stars just be a

618
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:08.000
<v Speaker 3>massive cosmic coincidence?

619
00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Could they have formed in totally different parts of

620
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<v Speaker 2>the early universe that just happened to have similarly violent,

621
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:17.960
<v Speaker 2>short lived conditions and then randomly ended up crossing paths

622
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:18.920
<v Speaker 2>in the Milky Way's plane.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the essential devil's advocate question. We have to rule

624
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<v Speaker 3>out coincidence.

625
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<v Speaker 2>How do you do that?

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<v Speaker 3>To answer it, the researchers looked at the statistical dispersion,

627
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<v Speaker 3>the mathematical spread of what we call the XFA ratio

628
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<v Speaker 3>in these stars.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, xface sounds intimidating. I need you to translate that

630
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<v Speaker 2>out of astrophysics notation for us.

631
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<v Speaker 3>Fair enough, I can do that. In astronomical notation, XFA

632
00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:42.839
<v Speaker 3>is simply a way of expressing the abundance of a

633
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:46.720
<v Speaker 3>specific element let's call it X, like magnesium, right, which

634
00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:50.279
<v Speaker 3>could be magnesium or calcium or titanium, and you compare

635
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:51.960
<v Speaker 3>it to the abundance of iron.

636
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Which is f okay, So it's a ratio.

637
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:56.920
<v Speaker 3>The brackets denote a logarithmic skill compared to our sun.

638
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<v Speaker 3>But essentially it is a highly specific recipe.

639
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<v Speaker 2>A recipe.

640
00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:04.559
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it tells us the exact microscopic proportions of heavy

641
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:06.559
<v Speaker 3>ingredients that went into making the star.

642
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:09.200
<v Speaker 2>So they are looking at the specific recipe of heavy

643
00:31:09.240 --> 00:31:12.119
<v Speaker 2>elements compared to iron in each of these twenty stars

644
00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:14.759
<v Speaker 2>and looking for variations.

645
00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:17.480
<v Speaker 3>And what they found was truly startling. With the exception

646
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:20.359
<v Speaker 3>of just one single star out of the twenty, the

647
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:24.960
<v Speaker 3>targets show a noticeably mathematically narrower dispersion in their EXSEV

648
00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:28.480
<v Speaker 3>ratios compared to stars in the broader galactic halo or

649
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:29.279
<v Speaker 3>the bulch.

650
00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Even at similar overall metallicity levels.

651
00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:34.920
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, the recipe was unbelievably consistent.

652
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<v Speaker 2>Let me try to put this into human terms to

653
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:40.599
<v Speaker 2>make sure I grasp just how definitive this is.

654
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<v Speaker 3>Go for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine you walk into a massive stadium filled with hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>of thousands of people.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that represents the galactic halo.

658
00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:52.079
<v Speaker 2>Right, You are trying to find people who are secretly related,

659
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<v Speaker 2>so you look at their blood.

660
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:55.759
<v Speaker 3>Types, a good starting point for a search.

661
00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:59.480
<v Speaker 2>You find twenty people scattered throughout the massive crowd, who

662
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<v Speaker 2>all have an incredibly rare blood type, say AB negative.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's our rare, violent chemical signature without white dwarfs exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But having the same rare blood type doesn't guarantee you're

665
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<v Speaker 2>from the same family.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it doesn't.

667
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:16.480
<v Speaker 2>You could just be randomly scattered strangers who happen to

668
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<v Speaker 2>share a broad biological trait.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, the skeptic could still argue it's a coincidence.

670
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<v Speaker 2>But then you sequence their DNA, You look past the

671
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<v Speaker 2>blood type at the microscopic underlying genetic markers. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 2>you realize that these twenty people don't just share a

673
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<v Speaker 2>rare blood type, they share the exact same, microscopic, highly

674
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<v Speaker 2>specific genetic mutations down to the most infinitesmal detail.

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<v Speaker 3>The dispersion is zero, Right.

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<v Speaker 2>The dispersion or variation in their genetics is incredibly narrow.

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<v Speaker 2>They aren't strangers who look alike. They are definitively, undeniably siblings.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a brilliant analogy. The exceptionally narrow XPA dispersion

679
00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:56.400
<v Speaker 3>is the DNA test that proves they are siblings.

680
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<v Speaker 2>So they have to be from the same galaxy.

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<v Speaker 3>The researchers stated explicitly that the elemental dispersions in these

682
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<v Speaker 3>targets are so remarkably small that they are virtually identical

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<v Speaker 3>to what you would mathematically expect to see in a

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<v Speaker 3>closed system.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, define a closed system in this context. Do you

686
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<v Speaker 2>mean a single isolated bubble where the gas was perfectly

687
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<v Speaker 2>mixed before the stars formed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, exactly that. In astrophysics, a closed system means the

689
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<v Speaker 3>dwarf galaxy had a deep enough gravitational well to hold

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<v Speaker 3>on to its.

691
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<v Speaker 2>Gas despite the supernova going off.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, it held onto the gas, allowing the violent supernovae

693
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<v Speaker 3>to explode and thoroughly mix their newly forged elements evenly

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<v Speaker 3>throughout the galaxy's interstellar medium before the next generation of

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<v Speaker 3>stars formed.

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<v Speaker 2>Think of stirring a massive vat of soup until the

697
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<v Speaker 2>spices are perfectly distributed. Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>If these twenty stars had come from two different formation sites,

699
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<v Speaker 3>two different dwarf galaxies that fell into the milky way independently,

700
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<v Speaker 3>the gas in those two separate systems would have had

701
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<v Speaker 3>slightly different mixing histories.

702
00:33:57.079 --> 00:33:59.279
<v Speaker 2>Because they'd have different amounts of supernovae going off at

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<v Speaker 2>different times.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly the chemical dispersion. The variance in the recipe from

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00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:05.960
<v Speaker 3>star to star would be noticeably wider.

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00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:06.799
<v Speaker 2>But it isn't.

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<v Speaker 3>But it isn't that the data is definitive. These stars

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<v Speaker 3>formed in a single perfectly mixed, isolated vat they formed

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<v Speaker 3>in Loki.

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<v Speaker 2>The data is undeniable. We have the chemical proof of

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00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:22.559
<v Speaker 2>a closed system. We do. But wait if we accept

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<v Speaker 2>that this brings us violently back to the massive glaring

713
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:27.320
<v Speaker 2>paradox we introduced.

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00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:29.119
<v Speaker 3>Earlier, ah, the kinematic paradox.

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00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Yes, we just proved chemically beyond a shadow of a

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00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:35.000
<v Speaker 2>doubt that this is a single closed system. But we

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<v Speaker 2>also note that half these stars are orbiting forward and

718
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:38.559
<v Speaker 2>half are orbiting backward.

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00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:40.960
<v Speaker 3>It is a staggering contradiction on the surface.

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00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Now, you explained how tidal forces could do this, but

721
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<v Speaker 2>did the astronomers actually verify it couldn't just be too

722
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:47.079
<v Speaker 2>identical galaxies?

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00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:48.280
<v Speaker 3>They absolutely did.

724
00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:52.440
<v Speaker 2>How can we be mathematically certain a single closed system

725
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:56.280
<v Speaker 2>produced stars orbiting in totally opposite directions.

726
00:34:56.840 --> 00:34:59.400
<v Speaker 3>Well, the orbital paradox sits at the very heart of

727
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:04.000
<v Speaker 3>this discovery, and the astronomers absolutely questioned this themselves. It

728
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<v Speaker 3>is the natural scientific response to such bizarre data. They

729
00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:12.599
<v Speaker 3>had to ask, despite the incredibly tight chemical similarities, is

730
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<v Speaker 3>there any mathematical loophole where this could actually be a

731
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<v Speaker 3>pair of systems?

732
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:20.159
<v Speaker 2>Could Loki actually be Loki and say thor.

733
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:24.880
<v Speaker 3>Yes, one prograde dwarf galaxy and one retrograde dwarf galaxy

734
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:27.960
<v Speaker 3>that just miraculously happened to have identical chemistry.

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<v Speaker 2>Because if it's two separate systems, the orbital problem is

736
00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:33.679
<v Speaker 2>neatly solved. One hit the milky Way from the left,

737
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<v Speaker 2>one hit from the right, prograde and retrograde. Explained, without

738
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<v Speaker 2>needing extreme title unbinding.

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<v Speaker 3>It would elegantly solve the kinematic problem. Yes, but Cistito's

740
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<v Speaker 3>team didn't just guess. They ran the mass models of

741
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:47.119
<v Speaker 3>the star and gas material.

742
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:48.000
<v Speaker 2>What does that mean?

743
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:51.679
<v Speaker 3>They used complex nd body simulations and mathematical frameworks like

744
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:55.119
<v Speaker 3>genes modeling to reconstruct the mass required to produce these.

745
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Stars, oh like working backwards from the wreckage.

746
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:01.360
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, and the physics simply they do not support the

747
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:02.480
<v Speaker 3>two system theory.

748
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<v Speaker 2>Why not break down the math for me? Why does

749
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:06.039
<v Speaker 2>the two system theory fail?

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00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:09.119
<v Speaker 3>If you assume these stars came from two separate systems,

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00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:13.679
<v Speaker 3>one pro grade one retrograde, the total buryonic mass, which

752
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:17.000
<v Speaker 3>is the total mass of all the normal visible matter

753
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:19.840
<v Speaker 3>like gas and stars needed to form them would have

754
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:22.920
<v Speaker 3>to be exactly double what we calculate for a single

755
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:23.760
<v Speaker 3>system scenario.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you'd need twice as much raw material falling

757
00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:28.639
<v Speaker 2>into the Milky Way at the exact same time.

758
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:29.039
<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:32.559
<v Speaker 3>Furthermore, and this is the mathematical nail in the coffin

760
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:36.559
<v Speaker 3>for the two system theory, those two completely separate dwarf

761
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:40.239
<v Speaker 3>galaxies would have to share a nearly identical mirror image

762
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:42.960
<v Speaker 3>chemical history and evolution, which is just too much of

763
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:45.000
<v Speaker 3>a coincidence, way too much. They would have to have

764
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:48.880
<v Speaker 3>the exact same rate of high energy hypernovae the exact

765
00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:52.159
<v Speaker 3>same precise timeline, resulting in the exact same lack of

766
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:56.639
<v Speaker 3>white dwarfs, and perfectly match that incredibly narrow X dispersion

767
00:36:56.679 --> 00:36:57.599
<v Speaker 3>we just talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>To go back to my stadium analogy, that would be

769
00:36:59.920 --> 00:37:03.800
<v Speaker 2>like finding two completely unrelated families from opposite sides of

770
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:06.800
<v Speaker 2>the world, throwing them into the stadium and discovering their

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00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:10.159
<v Speaker 2>microscopic D and A mutations are completely identical.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's not just unlikely, it's statistically absurd.

773
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:16.199
<v Speaker 2>It is statistically impossible.

774
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:19.800
<v Speaker 3>The mass models and the chemical forensics trap us into

775
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:25.360
<v Speaker 3>only one viable physical reality. Loki was a single, unified

776
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:26.760
<v Speaker 3>dwarf galaxy.

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00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:28.280
<v Speaker 2>There's a closed system.

778
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:30.880
<v Speaker 3>And it was subjected to an ancient accretion event so

779
00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:35.519
<v Speaker 3>spectacularly violent, so profoundly disruptive, that the Milky Way ripped

780
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:38.360
<v Speaker 3>the galaxy's internal structure entirely apart.

781
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:41.039
<v Speaker 2>Scattering its constituent stars across the massive plane of our

782
00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:43.639
<v Speaker 2>galaxy and completely opposing orbital directions.

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00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:45.079
<v Speaker 3>It's breathtaking, isn't it.

784
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:47.519
<v Speaker 2>It really is. It completely rewires how I picture the

785
00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:50.280
<v Speaker 2>space above our heads. Same here, the Milky Way isn't

786
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:53.159
<v Speaker 2>just a slow, gentle accumulation of dust. It is a

787
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:56.840
<v Speaker 2>violent history of catastrophic collisions. And by looking at chemical

788
00:37:56.880 --> 00:38:00.280
<v Speaker 2>recipes in backward orbits, we have just successfully pieced together

789
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:02.920
<v Speaker 2>the brief life and the violent death of one of

790
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:03.679
<v Speaker 2>those victims.

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00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:07.719
<v Speaker 3>We have we have isolated the ghost of Loki. Incredible,

792
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:10.400
<v Speaker 3>but you know, The most exciting part of Cistido's paper

793
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:12.960
<v Speaker 3>isn't just what they found, It is what this implies

794
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:16.880
<v Speaker 3>for the future. There's more, oh much more. The search

795
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:19.679
<v Speaker 3>for the Milky Way's violent history is really just beginning.

796
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:23.280
<v Speaker 3>The study explicitly notes that while this sample of twenty

797
00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:26.079
<v Speaker 3>planar stars is enough to prove the concept and break

798
00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:30.360
<v Speaker 3>old models, it is still a relatively small sample size.

799
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:32.679
<v Speaker 2>It's a tip of the iceberg. It proves the ghosts

800
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:34.119
<v Speaker 2>are there, hiding in.

801
00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:38.840
<v Speaker 3>The plane exactly. The future of galactic archaeology is incredibly

802
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:41.679
<v Speaker 3>bright because we are standing on the precipice of a

803
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:43.079
<v Speaker 3>massive data explosion.

804
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:44.199
<v Speaker 2>What's coming next?

805
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:47.400
<v Speaker 3>The study point specifically to the next generation of larger

806
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:51.400
<v Speaker 3>homogeneous spectroscopic surveys that are coming online soon. Facilities and

807
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:54.639
<v Speaker 3>instruments like Weave and Foremost explain.

808
00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:56.199
<v Speaker 2>What Weave and Foremost are going to do. Differently.

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00:38:56.239 --> 00:39:00.079
<v Speaker 3>These are highly advanced multi object spectrographs attached to mass

810
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:02.840
<v Speaker 3>of telescopes. Instead of looking at a few stars at

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00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:05.760
<v Speaker 3>a time, they use thousands of optical fibers positioned by

812
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:09.320
<v Speaker 3>robots to simultaneously capture the light from thousands of stars

813
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:09.760
<v Speaker 3>at once.

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00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:12.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, so they can survey the sky much.

815
00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:15.960
<v Speaker 3>Faster, exponentially faster. They are going to survey millions of

816
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:19.519
<v Speaker 3>stars across the galactic plane with a level of chemical

817
00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:22.360
<v Speaker 3>and kinematic precision we've never had access to before.

818
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:23.559
<v Speaker 2>That's huge.

819
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:27.800
<v Speaker 3>If Lokia is out there, represented by these twenty scattered stars,

820
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:32.440
<v Speaker 3>Weave and Foremost are going to find hundreds, maybe thousands

821
00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:33.480
<v Speaker 3>more of its siblings.

822
00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:35.920
<v Speaker 2>They will map the full extent of its shredded remains.

823
00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:39.760
<v Speaker 3>They are going to illuminate the entire cosmic graveyard. They

824
00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:43.599
<v Speaker 3>will clarify the origins of planar metal poor stars, and

825
00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:47.440
<v Speaker 3>undoubtedly uncover the ghosts of other dwarf galaxies we don't

826
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:48.480
<v Speaker 3>even have names for yet.

827
00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:50.960
<v Speaker 2>It will be a golden age for understanding the violent

828
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:52.079
<v Speaker 2>assembly of our home.

829
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:54.079
<v Speaker 3>It is just spectacular science.

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00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:55.920
<v Speaker 2>So the next time you are out on a clear

831
00:39:56.039 --> 00:39:59.000
<v Speaker 2>night and you look up at that glowing, milky band

832
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:01.920
<v Speaker 2>of light stretching across the blackness, I want you to

833
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:03.039
<v Speaker 2>change how you see it.

834
00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:04.159
<v Speaker 3>Think of the violence.

835
00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Right. You aren't just looking at our galaxy. You aren't

836
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:09.800
<v Speaker 2>looking at a peaceful, static home. You're looking at the

837
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:11.480
<v Speaker 2>ultimate cosmic graveyard.

838
00:40:11.719 --> 00:40:15.039
<v Speaker 3>You are looking at the ghostly remains of countless ancient

839
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:19.519
<v Speaker 3>dwarf galaxies shredded billions of years ago, with their constituent

840
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:23.880
<v Speaker 3>stars still swirling in chaotic, invisible orbits right above our heads.

841
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:26.519
<v Speaker 2>And if we really want to push that thought to

842
00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:29.079
<v Speaker 2>its absolute limit, let's do consider the geometry of what

843
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:32.280
<v Speaker 2>we just discussed. If the stars of Loki and other

844
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:35.679
<v Speaker 2>consumed systems like it were scattered so violently that they

845
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<v Speaker 2>are still currently plunging across the galactic plane in wildly opposing,

846
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:44.239
<v Speaker 2>highly eccentric directions, is it possible that our own relatively

847
00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:47.440
<v Speaker 2>young solar system, on its quiet circular path through the

848
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:51.320
<v Speaker 2>disc will eventually cross paths with or even be subtly

849
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:55.800
<v Speaker 2>gravitationally nudged by the silent ancient ghosts of an entirely

850
00:40:55.840 --> 00:40:57.199
<v Speaker 2>different lost galaxy.

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00:40:57.320 --> 00:40:58.679
<v Speaker 3>Now, that is something to think about.
