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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting from Studio A here at Proven Winners, Color Choice Shrubs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Gardening Simplified Radio, YouTube and podcast show with

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<v Speaker 1>Stacy Hervella, Me, Rick Weist, and our engineer and producer

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<v Speaker 1>Adrianna Robinson. Well today, Stacy, let's talk about peach. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little bit fuzzy as far as peaches are concerned.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that what you want to do the show? We

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<v Speaker 2>just had that pun waiting, it's not come up on

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<v Speaker 2>the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Would I do something like that?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you had a pun burning a hole

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<v Speaker 2>in your pocket, so to speak, I wouldn't put it

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<v Speaker 2>past You're just saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, very mulch. Well, the poor peach suffers from

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of an identity crisis. You will see people

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<v Speaker 1>calling it apricot, salmon, terra cotta, even light coral, all

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<v Speaker 1>words that describe the same range of colors. I know

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<v Speaker 1>from experience, for example, with tulips, many of them that

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<v Speaker 1>are or what I would call peach are called apricot.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you throw nectarine into the mix, and now

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<v Speaker 1>well you have chaos. Think of the color peach and

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<v Speaker 1>what pops into your head. If you remember the eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>like me, it's probably things like bridesmaid dresses and loose

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<v Speaker 1>fitting suits and jackets worn on the television show Miami Vice.

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<v Speaker 1>But the color peach can be a garden problem solver.

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<v Speaker 1>Peach is one of the freshest, most flexible colors you

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<v Speaker 1>can incorporate into a garden design. So here's how I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to think about it. I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>think of peach as the tactful friend that keeps oversized

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<v Speaker 1>garden personalities from acting out.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, that's interesting. I'd like my oversized garden personalities to

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<v Speaker 2>act up personally. And I don't have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>peach in my garden, but this is an and interesting approach.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, think about it. Peach is in my mind, yellow

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<v Speaker 1>and red and white blended together, and so the yellow

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<v Speaker 1>and red kind of stand out, and then you throw

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<v Speaker 1>in the white and you soften it, not really pastel,

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<v Speaker 1>but just kind of make it fuzzy, and you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the color peach, and it's ideal for the garden.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's true. I don't have a lot of it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I always do admire peach. Flowering pornias like GM

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<v Speaker 2>always a really good one for some beautiful kind of

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<v Speaker 2>peachy orange colors.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. Well, we'll give you some peach suggestions.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, the Pantone color for twenty twenty four is

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<v Speaker 1>Peach fuzz. So I looked it up Stacy, and according

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<v Speaker 1>to the executive director there at Pantone Color Institute, she says,

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<v Speaker 1>peach captures our desire to nurture ourselves and others. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a velvety peach tone who's all embracing spirit, enriches mind,

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<v Speaker 1>body and soul. In seeking a hue that echoes are

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<v Speaker 1>innate yearning for closeness and connection. We chose a color

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<v Speaker 1>radiant with warmth and modern elegance, a shade that resonates

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<v Speaker 1>with compassion, offers a tactile embrace and effortless. Effortlessly bridges

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<v Speaker 1>the youthful with the timeless.

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<v Speaker 2>WHOA wow, All that from a color?

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<v Speaker 1>All that from a color? The color peach. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a mix of orange, yellow and white. I misspoke myself,

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<v Speaker 1>really not red yellow and white, but orange yellow and white.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's red and orange. So I was thinking you're

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<v Speaker 2>just doing the color wheel thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That yeah, yeah, but a softness to it. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just think that it's one of those ideal colors to

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<v Speaker 1>add sweetness and goodwill and joy to your garden.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you have that's peach in your garden?

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<v Speaker 2>Well doing all this heavy lift.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my very favorite peach colored plants is a

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<v Speaker 1>proven Winner's Color choice shrub and that is double take

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<v Speaker 1>peach quints.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, that is a lovely one.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a stunning, stunning color.

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<v Speaker 2>That is like the epitome of peach. Really in the garden.

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<v Speaker 1>It is rainbow rhythm orange smoothie day lilies. They call

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<v Speaker 1>them orange smoothie, but it doesn't look orange to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have a question for you, Stacy. We have

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<v Speaker 1>walked through the trial garden before. A plant that I

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<v Speaker 1>love is at Last rose. I think it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most incredible roses that you can grow in your landscape.

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<v Speaker 1>My question for you would be what color do you

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<v Speaker 1>consider it to be? Is it apricot, is it peach?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it orange? What is it?

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<v Speaker 2>I would consider it? We usually refer to it as

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<v Speaker 2>more apricot, So in my eye, apricot is more orange

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<v Speaker 2>than peach, or peach is a little bit like kind

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<v Speaker 2>of lighter, has more white in it, and apricot has

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<v Speaker 2>like a little bit more you know, bright orange to

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<v Speaker 2>it not bright still, but like you know, just it's

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<v Speaker 2>more orange and less white.

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<v Speaker 1>So at last you would view as.

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<v Speaker 2>Being a Yeah. When we were playing around with the

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<v Speaker 2>names for that plant, we were working with a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of variations on apricot. They just didn't make the final cut.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, as it relates to the color peach in your landscape,

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote a little limb a rick for you. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>want something busy to make a scene so distracting. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>need some drama meme. Try a color that isn't demanding,

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<v Speaker 1>that will provide a soft landing and always looks peachy keen.

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<v Speaker 1>Life isn't all peaches and cream, but isn't it fun?

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<v Speaker 1>Just dream? Use soft color and fuzz. You'll be all

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<v Speaker 1>the buzz and make a great Instagram meme. Oh boy,

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<v Speaker 1>this color. It's not overreach to say it's just a peach.

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<v Speaker 1>You may disagree, but opinions are free. I'll exercise my

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<v Speaker 1>free speech.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh nice, I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I like this color.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I do like it, I just don't I

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<v Speaker 2>don't actually have it in my garden. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a lot of soft colors in my garden.

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<v Speaker 2>I like bold color. That's my preference. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as you were reading that, I was thinking of a

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<v Speaker 2>plant that I actually really do love in peach is yarrow.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of the new cultivars of yarrow have that

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<v Speaker 2>really beautiful kind of peachy color.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, there is a firefly peach sky yarrow, light

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<v Speaker 1>peachy orange flowers that age to yellow, which is very neat.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Stacey, Oh, a few weeks ago in an episode,

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<v Speaker 1>you brought up a rose called Flavorret flavorette honey apricot rose.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and that is so that one is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>apricot colored. But the reason that Flavrete honey apricot rose

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<v Speaker 2>is called that is because it actually was developed to

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<v Speaker 2>have a taste reminiscent of apricots. And actually, ironically enough,

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<v Speaker 2>if I had to characterize the color, I would say

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<v Speaker 2>that flavor at honey apricot, despite its apricot flavor, is

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<v Speaker 2>more peach colored than at last, which is more apricot colored.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're confused, we'll link everything in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 2>You can sort it out. And you know, all of

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<v Speaker 2>this is very subjective whenever it comes to color, and

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<v Speaker 2>particularly when we are talking about colors based on the

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<v Speaker 2>color of something else, whether that's orange or peach or apricot,

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<v Speaker 2>all of which are things that have actual colors in

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<v Speaker 2>the real world. So check out our show notes and

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<v Speaker 2>you can tell us what you think is apricot, what

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<v Speaker 2>you think is peach, and you go orange.

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<v Speaker 1>A new proven Winn's Annual variety in twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is really beautiful. It's a Caliber CoA

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<v Speaker 1>super Bell's double Vintage coral that looks very peach to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we've talked before about agistachi or hsup and

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<v Speaker 1>meant to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Queen neck to It's a beautiful plant that and it's peachy,

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<v Speaker 2>Yes it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's peachy. And bogonias are fantastic for peach color. As

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, I have found through the years

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<v Speaker 1>that if you want some really great peach color in

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<v Speaker 1>your landscape, look to the bulbs, so to speak. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they're not bulbs, maybe they're rhizomes or tubers. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at bogonias, you look at tulips, you look

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<v Speaker 1>at cannas, you look at gahlias and daffodils. Yes, the

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<v Speaker 1>peach color is just amazing. There is a Selenia Apricot

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<v Speaker 1>Bogonia hybrid. That's a new variety for twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Even kalladiums get into the act Heart to heart chinook

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<v Speaker 1>And of course you can't. You can't do a show

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<v Speaker 1>on peach without talking about super beina, peachy keen. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that is an amazing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Yeah, the archetype of peach colored flowers, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>And you know there are also plants with kind of

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<v Speaker 2>peach colored foliage. Yes, sometimes especially new growth can have

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<v Speaker 2>a kind of orange. Sometimes you see this in our

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<v Speaker 2>Midnight Wine or Midnight Sun Why Gila. You also see

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<v Speaker 2>it a bit in our double Play Blue because you

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<v Speaker 2>spyriea just on the brand new growth and in a

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<v Speaker 2>plant that was featured in past plants on Trial Kodiak

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<v Speaker 2>Orange Dravilla. So it is very orange, but as when

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<v Speaker 2>the foliage, the new new growth starts to emerge, it

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<v Speaker 2>can be have kind of a peachy tone to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that and I'm glad you brought up the

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<v Speaker 1>foliage element because some of the colis you will see

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<v Speaker 1>peach color, like in the Sedona Sunset.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh. I love that variety.

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<v Speaker 1>That is fantastic. And then you know, when you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about foliage. Even some houseplants I've noticed agglinima or Chinese evergreen,

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<v Speaker 1>some shades of peach in there, and even points set

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<v Speaker 1>he is are getting into the act Christmas time.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yes, for someone who wants a little twist on

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<v Speaker 2>the classic red and they are very pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. So it's all peachey, my friends. And that's the

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<v Speaker 1>topic of today's show. We'll see how Stacey ties it

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<v Speaker 1>in coming up next in Plants on Trial, you're listening

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<v Speaker 2>gardening friends, and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show.

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<v Speaker 2>The order of the day is peach. The color peach.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know it is interesting is you're listing all

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<v Speaker 2>the sort of permutations of peach that all of these

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<v Speaker 2>colors over any other color I think are named after

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<v Speaker 2>something else. So there's salmon, there's apricot, there's peach, there's orange.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't happen with any other colors.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it doesn't. And before coming to the studio today,

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<v Speaker 1>I looked in my closet thinking maybe I'll wear a

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<v Speaker 1>peach shirt. I don't have one.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I had the same thoughts, and I also

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<v Speaker 2>do not have a peach shirt. But I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was interesting that you brought up the eighties fashion because

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<v Speaker 2>I was in my aunt's wedding as a junior bridesmaid

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<v Speaker 2>in the nineteen eighties and my bridesmaid dress was indeed peach.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone at the bridesmaids were all wearing peach, and the

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<v Speaker 1>guys were wearing mint green.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, peach and mint That was like the thing,

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<v Speaker 2>that was the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean even appliances too.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there's probably a lot of people out there who

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<v Speaker 2>would love nothing more than some vintage eighties or mint

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<v Speaker 2>green and peach appliances. It has truly come around. But

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<v Speaker 2>this is about plants, not the nineteen eighties appliances. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when it comes to plants on trial, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>peachiest plant Rick has already mentioned, and that is double

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<v Speaker 2>take peach flowering quints, which is a beautiful spring flowering shrub,

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<v Speaker 2>But it just seemed, you know, unnatural to me to

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<v Speaker 2>pick something that was a little bit more seasonal, and

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<v Speaker 1>It's a beauty.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a beauty, and it's a very interesting rose.

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<v Speaker 2>So I want to kind of talk about some of

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<v Speaker 2>what it looks like. As the name Ringo may start

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<v Speaker 2>to imply it is, it's characterized by this central ring

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<v Speaker 2>in the flower and color changes. So there are actually

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<v Speaker 2>four roses in the Ringo series. The original Ringo, which

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<v Speaker 2>is yellow and red, Ringo All Star, which we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>climbing version of the yellow Ringo, And all of these

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<v Speaker 2>have a very distinctive red eye in the center and

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<v Speaker 2>the petals actually change color as the flower matures and ages,

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<v Speaker 2>so you're actually getting a number of different colors on

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<v Speaker 2>any of these plants at any given time. And rinku

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<v Speaker 2>all Star, as you might have guessed, is the closest

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<v Speaker 2>to peach. So when the flower opens, the outer petals

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<v Speaker 2>are kind of like a deep pinky orange shading to

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<v Speaker 2>peach in the center and then that bright red ring.

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<v Speaker 2>But then as that bloom ages, what happens is that

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<v Speaker 2>orange pink goes to pink, the peach goes to what

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<v Speaker 2>I would probably describe as a more accurate because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>peaches themselves are kind of actually a little bit yellow,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if you have like a yellow peach. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's the white peaches those are more peach than the

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<v Speaker 2>yellow peaches, which are yellow and peach. Wow, this is

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<v Speaker 2>getting confusing, So true peach with a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>yellow there in the center as it ages, and then

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<v Speaker 2>this plant which does not need dead heading to flower.

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<v Speaker 2>All summer goes on in blooms, You're getting all these

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<v Speaker 2>flowers at all these different stages at once, and it

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<v Speaker 2>really makes for a very interesting and dynamic show where

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to get a lot of different colors at once,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's a lot more interesting then, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's really neat. And I'm reading my notes here

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<v Speaker 1>because this is not something I know. But you talk

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so ulmia.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds like somebody who wrestles in the World Wrestling Federation, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what, It would be a good name for a

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<v Speaker 2>professional wrestler, and you are about to find out why.

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<v Speaker 2>So so this plant the Ringo series and other series

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<v Speaker 2>that you might see out there that look similar with

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<v Speaker 2>this very distinctive central ring are from are developed from

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<v Speaker 2>a rose known as Rosa persica, and that was originally

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<v Speaker 2>known as Holtemia. So that's h U l T h

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<v Speaker 2>E m i a Holtemia, and it is a true rose,

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<v Speaker 2>but it used to be classified in its own genus

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<v Speaker 2>of Holtemia, and Holtemia or Rosa persica is actually a

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<v Speaker 2>desert rose, a native to Persia, native to Persia, as

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<v Speaker 2>you might have guessed from the persica there in the

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<v Speaker 2>name Prunas persica. Oh my gosh, synchronicity. Prunas persica is

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<v Speaker 2>the scientific name for peach, so it's all coming together.

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<v Speaker 1>How it comes together, even on the fly, operating by

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<v Speaker 1>the seat of our plants. Don't try this.

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<v Speaker 2>At home exactly. So this is a plant that is

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<v Speaker 2>native to very dry desert areas of Iran and Iraq

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<v Speaker 2>and other areas around the Middle East, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>were to see Rosa persica or Holtemia in bloom in

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<v Speaker 2>those areas, you probably would not think that it is

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<v Speaker 2>a rose in any way, shape or form, even though

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<v Speaker 2>the flower itself does resemble a rose, and it actually

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<v Speaker 2>looks quite a bit like ringo, just a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more wild. The yellow is much more deep, and the

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<v Speaker 2>red in the center is very very intense. The plant

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<v Speaker 2>itself is actually kind of a sprawling, weedy subshrub, and

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<v Speaker 2>the foliage is blue, so it's this beautiful, unique blue

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<v Speaker 2>color spiny. The stems and leaves are quite spiny, with

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<v Speaker 2>almost like a fish hook spine that kind of curves

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<v Speaker 2>back in on itself, and then the buds are absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>covered in spines, so like a little bit like a

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<v Speaker 2>beech rose Rosa ragosa if you're familiar with that, but

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<v Speaker 2>the spines are probably like an inch long. So this

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<v Speaker 2>thing is saying to predators stay the heck away. It's

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<v Speaker 2>growing in the desert with a long taproot. Now this

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<v Speaker 2>is straight species, minds you. Not the ringo are the

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<v Speaker 2>ones that we're going to be growing in our gardens.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, it is typically a weed that grows

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<v Speaker 2>on the edges of fields, and I was reading that

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<v Speaker 2>after farmers harvest their fields of whatever crap they were growing,

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<v Speaker 2>they will then harvest any Rosa persica or Holtemia growing

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<v Speaker 2>on the outskirts and they use that for fuel because

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<v Speaker 2>roses are actually very high in oil, and so they

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<v Speaker 2>will actually use the fruits that are formed by the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the season to make oil and use that

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<v Speaker 2>for a fuel. So we'll put a picture of Holtemia

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<v Speaker 2>or Rosa persica in the show notes as well as

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<v Speaker 2>in the YouTube version if you are interested in that,

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<v Speaker 2>and you'll see the similarities at least in the flower.

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<v Speaker 2>But then you'll see that foliage you'll be like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 2>these are not similar at all? What's going on? Well? Fortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>Rosa persica is also very amenable to plant breeding, so

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<v Speaker 2>it was able to cross very readily with other roses,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's not always the case even closely related plants

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<v Speaker 2>like this. In the same botanical genus might not cross

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<v Speaker 2>well because of their chromosome counts. Well, Fortunately, Rosa persica

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<v Speaker 2>is one of those that's just like you know me,

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<v Speaker 2>with whatever, I will make a new plan and we

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<v Speaker 2>will resolve each other's liabilities and make something even better.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what happened with Ringos. So the person who

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<v Speaker 2>did the hybridizing of the Ringo series, he is a

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<v Speaker 2>brilliant rose breeder named Chris Warner in the UK. He

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<v Speaker 2>has probably been responsible for around eighty percent of the

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<v Speaker 2>roses in the Proven Winner's brand, So if you have

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<v Speaker 2>a Proven Winner's rose, there's a very likely chance that

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<v Speaker 2>it was developed by Chris Warner. Chris developed all of

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<v Speaker 2>the Ringos series and he is just a lifelong rose

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<v Speaker 2>breeder who is just absolutely devoted to roses and to

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<v Speaker 2>making roses more disease resistant and more beautiful so more

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<v Speaker 2>people can enjoy them. He's really one of those kind

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<v Speaker 2>of breeders who just wants to share his passion and

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<v Speaker 2>he knows that to do that, not everyone is going

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<v Speaker 2>to devote the time and energy that they need to

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<v Speaker 2>have really great looking roses. So he's like, I love roses,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to make them easier to grow and

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<v Speaker 2>then no one has an excuse not.

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<v Speaker 1>To grow, and he did that with Rise Up Lilac days.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so he is a breeder of Rise Up Lilac Dace,

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<v Speaker 2>which is Adriana's favorite rose, and in fact, I would

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<v Speaker 2>say it's probably pretty much anyone who sees its favorite rose.

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<v Speaker 2>It is so beautiful and so fragrant. You can actually

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<v Speaker 2>our YouTube channel. But all of this talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>parentage of this, of Ringo all Star rows being from

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<v Speaker 2>the desert the one of the parents, it really says

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<v Speaker 2>a lot about how heat tolerant roses can actually be. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this is hardy down to USDA Zone four, heat tolerant

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<v Speaker 2>through about USDA Zone eight, and because it does have

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<v Speaker 2>or nine, southern California something like that, you'll probably actually

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<v Speaker 2>have much better luck with us than someone who is

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<v Speaker 2>in a human zone eight like in Georgia or Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really not going to appreciate being grown in humid conditions,

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<v Speaker 2>So if you are trying to grow it, if you

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<v Speaker 2>love this planet. It's easy to love it's so beautiful,

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<v Speaker 2>and you live in a hot, humid climate. I would

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<v Speaker 2>say this is one rose you are going to want

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<v Speaker 2>to definitely pay attention to the spacing on. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be about two to three feet tall and three

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<v Speaker 2>feet wide, so make sure you respect that and give

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<v Speaker 2>on all sides. By giving it really really good air circulation,

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<v Speaker 2>you can help to reduce some of that disease pressure

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<v Speaker 2>that might occur since this is not a humidity loving rose,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course fungal leaf spots do love humidity. So

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<v Speaker 2>full sun, good air circulation and you should actually get

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<v Speaker 2>a really great performance out of Ringo all Star or

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<v Speaker 2>any of the roses whatever color. If you're looking for peach,

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<v Speaker 2>of course that's Ringo all Star. I think we've also

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<v Speaker 2>described it as cantalope colored. If we want to just

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<v Speaker 2>keep bringing the fruits into this, but take your pick,

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<v Speaker 2>look at all of them. We will link them all

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<v Speaker 2>in the show notes and you can let us know

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<v Speaker 2>which of the ringos you like best.

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<v Speaker 1>Understanding the parentage. I appreciate that story and it helps

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<v Speaker 1>you in growing the plant or placing the plant properly. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's great. I thought this rose was named

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<v Speaker 1>after Ringo, Star of the Beetles.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it is?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah as well? Oh and it has a ring in it?

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<v Speaker 2>Get it?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you more than I thought? I?

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<v Speaker 2>You sure do?

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 2>Please take a look at Gardenings and Provide on air

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<v Speaker 2>information about Ringo All Star and all the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the three hundred and twenty plus Proven Winter's Color Choice shrubs.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, we're going to take a break. When we

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<v Speaker 2>come back, we've got the garden mailbag to open up,

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<v Speaker 2>so please stay tuned at Proven Winner's Color Choice. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got a shrub for every taste and every space. Whether

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<v Speaker 2>your success. Look for them at your local garden center. Greetings,

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<v Speaker 2>let us know what that question is and we will

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<v Speaker 2>get back to you. You know, it is August. It

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<v Speaker 2>even though it's still summer and we're vacationing and it's hot,

417
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<v Speaker 2>it's just kind of like everybody's brain starts turning to fall.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've noticed in opticking questions about things that are

419
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<v Speaker 2>going to start becoming relevant in a fall.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's because there's so much that happens

421
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<v Speaker 1>in fall. School starts, football, all this stuff.

422
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<v Speaker 2>I think that's why do Yeah, definitely, so if you

423
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<v Speaker 2>have a question about what to do now what to

424
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<v Speaker 2>do in coming up in the fall. Don't forget fault

425
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<v Speaker 2>is a marvelous planting time, and nurseries very often have sales.

426
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<v Speaker 2>It's a great time to plant here in Michigan. We

427
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<v Speaker 2>can easily plant through mid October, if not later. And

428
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<v Speaker 2>the warmer climate you live in, the longer you can plant.

429
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<v Speaker 2>So start thinking about those changes that you might want

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<v Speaker 2>to make to your garden as we move into fall.

431
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<v Speaker 2>And actually the first question today is a very fall

432
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<v Speaker 2>related question.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes it is fall planted bulbs, Candy asks Hi, Rick

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<v Speaker 1>and Stacy. I live in Wyoming Zone four B five.

435
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<v Speaker 1>My area averages four to six feed of snow and

436
00:24:01.160 --> 00:24:05.480
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't melt until springtime. I would love to plant tulips.

437
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<v Speaker 1>Last year I tried to plant tulips in a metal

438
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<v Speaker 1>container because I have deer that eat everything in my garden,

439
00:24:13.240 --> 00:24:15.640
<v Speaker 1>but they rotted. What am I doing wrong? I thought

440
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<v Speaker 1>you could plant them in containers or should I give

441
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<v Speaker 1>up on them? Thanks for your advice, you know, I

442
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<v Speaker 1>would say for Candy, remember that many of these bulbs,

443
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<v Speaker 1>like tulips, come from Mediterranean regions, and so drainage is

444
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<v Speaker 1>so important if you're putting them in pots, good drainage,

445
00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:38.119
<v Speaker 1>whole lightweight soil in the pots. If you're planting them

446
00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:42.319
<v Speaker 1>in the ground, good drainage, planting them at least six

447
00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:46.559
<v Speaker 1>inches deep if they're tulips, and good drainage is one

448
00:24:46.599 --> 00:24:47.079
<v Speaker 1>of the keys.

449
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<v Speaker 2>It really is. And you also have to plant them

450
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<v Speaker 2>up at the right time, so you don't really want

451
00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:55.039
<v Speaker 2>to necessarily plant them too early. Most if you're buying

452
00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:57.720
<v Speaker 2>bulbs from a store, they're very often in the store

453
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<v Speaker 2>earlier than you would ideally want to plant them. If

454
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<v Speaker 2>you're buying mail order, they will typically ship them at

455
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<v Speaker 2>the right time for planting. And you know, for you Candy,

456
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<v Speaker 2>since you are planting into containers, what I would recommend

457
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<v Speaker 2>you ye is use containers with good drainage holes and

458
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<v Speaker 2>use fresh potting mix. And typically you're not going to

459
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<v Speaker 2>get a lot of rotting issues in potting mix because

460
00:25:20.759 --> 00:25:24.559
<v Speaker 2>it does naturally drain well. That said, there are definitely

461
00:25:24.599 --> 00:25:26.519
<v Speaker 2>some other things that can go wrong. The plants do

462
00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:29.759
<v Speaker 2>need to be left outdoors all winter. They need a

463
00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:32.599
<v Speaker 2>cold treatment. So if they're not getting a cold treatment

464
00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:35.559
<v Speaker 2>and they're getting watered anyway, they very easily can rot

465
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<v Speaker 2>because they're not in active growth. So you want them

466
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<v Speaker 2>to be dormant and they can be out there. You

467
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<v Speaker 2>don't even have to worry. I mean, obviously, if you've

468
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<v Speaker 2>got four to sixty feet of snow, you won't be

469
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<v Speaker 2>able to get them. But if you can have an

470
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<v Speaker 2>unheated garage or someplace where you can put them where

471
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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be easy to lift up and move indoors.

472
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<v Speaker 2>When you're ready, they're going to need, you know, at

473
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<v Speaker 2>least eight weeks of those cold temperatures, and during that time,

474
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<v Speaker 2>as long as they're cold, they're not going to rot and.

475
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<v Speaker 1>The roots are going to develop in the soil. So

476
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<v Speaker 1>when we say cold, we're not talking about bone chilling,

477
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<v Speaker 1>frozen like a brick cold. We're talking about chilled temperatures.

478
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<v Speaker 1>So many times putting them into storage or in the ground,

479
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<v Speaker 1>but seeing to it that they don't freeze solid is

480
00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:22.720
<v Speaker 1>going to be one of the keys. And yes, drainage

481
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<v Speaker 1>so super important.

482
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I would try it again. Just make sure

483
00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:30.039
<v Speaker 2>again your containers are drained. Well, you're using fresh potting mix.

484
00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:32.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're putting them in a spot where you

485
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<v Speaker 2>don't have to bring them in early. You can wait

486
00:26:35.960 --> 00:26:38.000
<v Speaker 2>until all of that snow melts. But it is very

487
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<v Speaker 2>one of the reasons the benefits really to forcing bulbs

488
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<v Speaker 2>like this is being able to get those bulbs out

489
00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:46.480
<v Speaker 2>of the outdoors, bring them in and get that little

490
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<v Speaker 2>early preview of springtime to get you through until it

491
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<v Speaker 2>actually comes, especially if you live in a climate like Wyoming.

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<v Speaker 1>Surely writes to us, Hello again, wonderful hosts of a

493
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<v Speaker 1>wonderful program. Well, thank you very mult Surely, I have

494
00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:03.759
<v Speaker 1>a six year old, healthy and beautiful ground spread juniper

495
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<v Speaker 1>that I would like to move. Just wondering if I

496
00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:09.319
<v Speaker 1>should cut it back first, and if so, how far.

497
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<v Speaker 1>Also was wondering if you thought it might do well

498
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<v Speaker 1>along my lakefront. Thanks so much, and you know for surely, Stacey.

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<v Speaker 1>Often I recommend to people to cut back plants to

500
00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:24.480
<v Speaker 1>when you're going to move them, to take some of

501
00:27:24.519 --> 00:27:27.200
<v Speaker 1>the stress off the plant when you move them. It

502
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<v Speaker 1>doesn't necessarily mean.

503
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<v Speaker 3>You have to.

504
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<v Speaker 1>If it's an older established plant, yes, if it's a

505
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:35.200
<v Speaker 1>younger plant that's only been in the ground for a

506
00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:37.640
<v Speaker 1>year or two, in many cases you can get by

507
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<v Speaker 1>without it.

508
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<v Speaker 2>Sure you know, a lot of people don't realize that

509
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<v Speaker 2>a plant's roots are in direct proportion to its top.

510
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<v Speaker 2>So if you reduce the root room or if you

511
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<v Speaker 2>duice the amount of roots it has by digging it.

512
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:52.920
<v Speaker 2>When you are going to no matter how careful you are,

513
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:54.720
<v Speaker 2>you are going to sit loose some roots. It would

514
00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:57.640
<v Speaker 2>be impossible not to. So it's a good idea then

515
00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:01.799
<v Speaker 2>to compensate by removing some of that top because the

516
00:28:01.799 --> 00:28:03.960
<v Speaker 2>plant isn't necessarily going to be able to support the

517
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<v Speaker 2>same amount of top growth when it has less root

518
00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:10.039
<v Speaker 2>growth to do so. But you know, you also don't

519
00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:12.960
<v Speaker 2>want to do this at the expense of the overall

520
00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:16.519
<v Speaker 2>aesthetics of your plant. And pruning your groundcover juniper could

521
00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:19.039
<v Speaker 2>be a little bit tricky, you know. I don't know

522
00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:20.559
<v Speaker 2>if you could feel like you can get in there

523
00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:22.880
<v Speaker 2>and maybe just you know, snip out with some sloppers,

524
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:25.559
<v Speaker 2>maybe a third of the oldest branches, that might work

525
00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:28.799
<v Speaker 2>if you're planning to maybe just shorten some of the branches,

526
00:28:28.920 --> 00:28:31.799
<v Speaker 2>which might make it easier to dig. But I would

527
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:35.599
<v Speaker 2>definitely compensate, you know, by taking off perhaps a quarter,

528
00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:38.119
<v Speaker 2>maybe even a little bit more. Do your best. It's

529
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:40.319
<v Speaker 2>not really going to harm the plant as long as

530
00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:42.319
<v Speaker 2>you're pruning in a way that's not going to change

531
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:46.000
<v Speaker 2>the aesthetics. But fall is such a great time for transplanting,

532
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:50.119
<v Speaker 2>you know. And if you transplant at a time where

533
00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:53.000
<v Speaker 2>you're still giving the plant a good six weeks of

534
00:28:53.319 --> 00:28:57.319
<v Speaker 2>root growth, it's great. Because the plant systems are shutting down.

535
00:28:57.400 --> 00:28:59.400
<v Speaker 2>It's saying like, hey, it's time for me to go dormant.

536
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:02.519
<v Speaker 2>But it's growing all of these roots still and it

537
00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:05.799
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have to worry about supporting all this top growth.

538
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:08.200
<v Speaker 2>It can really devote all of its energies to root growth,

539
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:10.039
<v Speaker 2>which is not only going to help it get through winter,

540
00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:12.559
<v Speaker 2>but make a better start in spring. Now, if you

541
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:15.680
<v Speaker 2>can't do it this fall, next spring is also perfectly okay,

542
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:18.279
<v Speaker 2>you just want to do it early. And as far

543
00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:20.799
<v Speaker 2>as growing on your lake front, yeah, I mean, junipers

544
00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:24.079
<v Speaker 2>are very very drought tolerant, very wind tolerant. It can

545
00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:28.160
<v Speaker 2>easily handle growing in an exposed area. So just make

546
00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:30.240
<v Speaker 2>sure that you're giving it plenty of water as it

547
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:32.920
<v Speaker 2>settles in it to compensate for all of that lost route.

548
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:36.759
<v Speaker 1>We see many junipers growing along the lake shore of

549
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:39.559
<v Speaker 1>Lake Michigan, right there on the dunes, so they can

550
00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:43.759
<v Speaker 1>handle it. And yeah, well, said Stacey, the air temperature

551
00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:48.119
<v Speaker 1>cools down, we get natural rain, so top growth slows

552
00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:51.720
<v Speaker 1>or stops, but that root growth is going to continue

553
00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:54.839
<v Speaker 1>because that soil can stay nice and warm well into

554
00:29:54.960 --> 00:30:02.079
<v Speaker 1>November December. Shalanda writes to us, Greetings, I planted purple

555
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:05.039
<v Speaker 1>cone flower from seed last year. Some of them came

556
00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:08.839
<v Speaker 1>up disformed on the cone flower part. Others were normal

557
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:11.200
<v Speaker 1>and planted in the same area and next to a

558
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:13.599
<v Speaker 1>deformed one. Have you ever seen this? Do you know

559
00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:17.559
<v Speaker 1>what's going on here? Thank you for sharing your expertise

560
00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:20.839
<v Speaker 1>and humor. I hope I got your name right. I

561
00:30:20.920 --> 00:30:24.720
<v Speaker 1>think it's Slanda And you know I have seen this

562
00:30:24.920 --> 00:30:26.240
<v Speaker 1>before on cone flowers.

563
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:29.519
<v Speaker 2>I have seen it before, and it is a disease

564
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:32.599
<v Speaker 2>called astor yellows. So there's a couple of different things

565
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:35.519
<v Speaker 2>that cone flowers in anything in the daisy family can

566
00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:38.599
<v Speaker 2>get and that includes redbeccia. I mean really, any that

567
00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:41.839
<v Speaker 2>you can think of are susceptible to this. So there

568
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:45.559
<v Speaker 2>are some mites, which is a tiny little insect relative

569
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:47.920
<v Speaker 2>that can feed on it, and that can look different.

570
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:50.759
<v Speaker 2>But Slanda from your photos, I would say this is

571
00:30:50.759 --> 00:30:53.079
<v Speaker 2>a cut and drug case of astor yellows. Now what

572
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:56.119
<v Speaker 2>surprises me though, is that she grew these from seed.

573
00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:01.000
<v Speaker 2>So astor yellows is a disease that is, it's called

574
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:04.279
<v Speaker 2>a phytoplasma, which there's your ten cent word.

575
00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:04.480
<v Speaker 5>Whork.

576
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:06.240
<v Speaker 2>We'll have to make that a future word of the day.

577
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:08.039
<v Speaker 1>Did you ever see the Ghostbusters move?

578
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:12.480
<v Speaker 2>I think that's ectoplasm, but very similar, and it's spread.

579
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:14.839
<v Speaker 2>It's sort of like a bacteria, it's not quite a bacteria.

580
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:18.720
<v Speaker 2>It's spread by leaf hoppers. So basically what happens is

581
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:20.960
<v Speaker 2>the leaf hoppers hop around from plant a plant. If

582
00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:23.319
<v Speaker 2>they feed on an infected plant, and it could be

583
00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:25.359
<v Speaker 2>somewhere in your neighborhood. It doesn't even need to be

584
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:31.000
<v Speaker 2>in your yard specifically, it will transmit this phytoplasma into

585
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:34.200
<v Speaker 2>your plant. So what I think probably happened this was

586
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:36.440
<v Speaker 2>not an issue of the seed or anything that you did.

587
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:40.240
<v Speaker 2>Probably as the plants were starting to emerge this season,

588
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:44.720
<v Speaker 2>some of them got the leaf hopper and it fed

589
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:48.559
<v Speaker 2>on it and transmitted this disease. And you know, unfortunately,

590
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:52.759
<v Speaker 2>there is no cure for aster yellows, and it is

591
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:56.440
<v Speaker 2>recommended that any plant that is showing signs be removed

592
00:31:56.559 --> 00:32:00.319
<v Speaker 2>and destroyed because if you don't, it's just creating more

593
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:03.279
<v Speaker 2>astor yellows because more leaf hoppers will feed on it

594
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:06.759
<v Speaker 2>and then spread it to more plants. So just because

595
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:08.920
<v Speaker 2>these couple of plants had it doesn't mean the others

596
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:11.400
<v Speaker 2>are going to get it. I have had astor yellows

597
00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:13.799
<v Speaker 2>here and there in my garden, like on my sulpium,

598
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:17.440
<v Speaker 2>which look amazing right now, and I love them, and

599
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:20.079
<v Speaker 2>I've just dug them and discarded them and then it

600
00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:22.519
<v Speaker 2>doesn't show up again. So it can be very very

601
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:25.559
<v Speaker 2>localized like that. So I would recommend destroy these specific

602
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:27.440
<v Speaker 2>plants at least you won't have lost your whole crop,

603
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.480
<v Speaker 2>and be vigilant. Look for it to possibly appear on

604
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:33.599
<v Speaker 2>other daisies. And if you see it, do you make

605
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:35.400
<v Speaker 2>sure you're throwing it away. And if you happen to

606
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:38.319
<v Speaker 2>prune or use a tool, just to be safe, I

607
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:41.720
<v Speaker 2>would recommend disinfecting that with a full strength lysol or

608
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:43.079
<v Speaker 2>a bleach or something like that.

609
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:47.599
<v Speaker 1>Use the search engine of your choosing type in aster

610
00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:52.160
<v Speaker 1>yellows and you will learn a lot and see a lot. Yeah,

611
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.359
<v Speaker 1>thanks for listening and watching the show.

612
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:57.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's quite interesting and I will put some links

613
00:32:57.079 --> 00:32:59.200
<v Speaker 2>of course in the show notes if you want to

614
00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:01.319
<v Speaker 2>do more research, but there's tons and tons of information

615
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:02.920
<v Speaker 2>out there, and once you see the pictures, you will

616
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:07.519
<v Speaker 2>see it is again a textbook case. So we're going

617
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<v Speaker 2>to take a little break. When we come back, we

618
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<v Speaker 2>the distinctive white container at your local garden center.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. Today, I'm branching

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<v Speaker 1>news and interview with Laura Roebel's regional product manager from

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<v Speaker 1>Walter's Gardens, Proven Winner's Perennials and Wow. Big reason for

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<v Speaker 1>talking to Laura is to talk about a plant that

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<v Speaker 1>I know we love very much and that is summarific hibiscus.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about I mean, how can you not love summarific hibiscus?

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<v Speaker 1>And what a great plant, an iconic landscape perennial during

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<v Speaker 1>the month of August with its massive, wide flowers. Laura

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for joining us on the Gardening Simplified Show.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, absolutely, thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a big time of the year for you,

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<v Speaker 1>and summarific hibiscus has got to be I'm gonna guess

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<v Speaker 1>near the top as far as your most popular perennials.

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<v Speaker 1>And am I wrong about that?

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<v Speaker 5>No, you're right.

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<v Speaker 4>We definitely have a ton of interest in it. People

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<v Speaker 4>love the fact that it looks so tropical but is

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<v Speaker 4>actually hearty in this region and even down to his

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<v Speaker 4>own four. So yeah, it's definitely one of our most

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<v Speaker 4>popular perennials.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one of the things I like most about them

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<v Speaker 2>is you know, we have Rosa Sharon of course in

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<v Speaker 2>shrubs and that's only hardy design five. So so a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people look at that and go, I would

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<v Speaker 2>love to grow that. Well, you can totally make it

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<v Speaker 2>up with the perennial hibiscus, get even bigger flowers, even

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<v Speaker 2>more color, and it goes dormant in the winter.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Yeah, it's it's a pretty spectacular perennial.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's great too for lots of different applications in

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<v Speaker 4>those garden. I mean, if people have like a wet area,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a perfect plant to put in a wet area.

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<v Speaker 4>It just thrives in that condition. But it'll and it'll

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<v Speaker 4>you know, thrive very well in clay worlds, but then

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<v Speaker 4>it'll also grow well in sandy coils.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's it's a pretty adaptable plant.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's how I grow it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I have.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't counted, but I probably have around twenty some total.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm crazy about them and my garden. I live, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a very very sandy area, very full sun. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>give supplemental irrigation, so they don't get as big. Like

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<v Speaker 2>when I go down to your trial gardens, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>whoa the potential in these things? But you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>perfectly happy really with their performance even under less than

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<v Speaker 2>ideal conditions, even if it means they only get to

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<v Speaker 2>be you know, maybe three and a half four feet

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<v Speaker 2>tall instead of you know, the big, lush, amazing specimens

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<v Speaker 2>that I see, you know there and in your photos.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, sometimes that's not a bad thing if they don't

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<v Speaker 4>get to their full size. And we've actually taken our

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<v Speaker 4>breeding program more recently to intentionally selecting for hardy some

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<v Speaker 4>of our psychhi biscuits that don't get quite as big

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<v Speaker 4>just because you know, not everybody has a big yard

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<v Speaker 4>where they have room for a plant that potentially could

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<v Speaker 4>get up to you know, five feet or six feet across.

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<v Speaker 4>So some of our newer introductions we specifically selected to

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<v Speaker 4>only get to be about three feet wide and three

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<v Speaker 4>feet tall. So yeah, there's you know, there's something for everybody,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, big yard, small yards. Even if people have

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<v Speaker 4>a big yard, these smaller selections can be put you know,

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<v Speaker 4>more near the front or middle of the border that away.

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<v Speaker 5>At the back.

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<v Speaker 4>So some cool habits and colors and all of that

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<v Speaker 4>stuff in our breeding work.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we talk hibiscus, Laura and Stacy, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to have you help me out here a moment so

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<v Speaker 1>that we don't assume that our listeners or our viewers

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<v Speaker 1>have a good handle on exactly what a hibiscus is.

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<v Speaker 1>There is some confusion for folks. We have the tropical

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<v Speaker 1>hibiscus or a hibiscus rosa sinensis, which is a plant

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<v Speaker 1>typically brought up from Florida and May and you sell

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<v Speaker 1>around Mother's Day, and Stacy mentioned the shrub or tree

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<v Speaker 1>form highbiscus, which we refer to as rose of Sharon. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>Laura and Stacey, we're talking about perennial or herbaceous perennial, hibiscus,

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<v Speaker 1>And we're going to take a shot at the botanical

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<v Speaker 1>name here a minute, hibiscus. And is it pronounced mosquitos

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<v Speaker 1>as in the insect?

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<v Speaker 5>What is it?

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<v Speaker 4>Laura, that would be that would be pretty cute, But

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<v Speaker 4>it's actually Hibiscus most shootos.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, Okay, good, that's what I always say.

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<v Speaker 2>But mosquitos, Yeah, that's a Spanish pronunciation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly, But for our benefit, this is an herbaceous

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<v Speaker 1>perennial that dies back to the ground in winter. And Laura,

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<v Speaker 1>one more time for our listeners, what's the.

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<v Speaker 4>Pronunciation hibiscus most shootos?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, hibiscus most shootos.

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<v Speaker 4>You can actually find the species growing, you know, out

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<v Speaker 4>in the wild. I mean there's some around here in

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<v Speaker 4>West Michigan that I see periodically, and I've seen them

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<v Speaker 4>in other places too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a native perennial. And I think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people, you know, when they see what it looks like,

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<v Speaker 2>they just they assume it's from the tropics or from

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<v Speaker 2>South America because it does look so tropical. And of course,

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<v Speaker 2>plant breeding has brought out a lot of the characteristics

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that make it much more ornament till then

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<v Speaker 2>the wild form, but even the wild form is still

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<v Speaker 2>very very showy and really really.

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<v Speaker 5>What it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, absolutely dinner plate blooms now at Walter's Gardens,

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<v Speaker 3>which is here in Michigan, Laura, when they are in

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<v Speaker 3>flower over there, that must be quite a sight to see,

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<v Speaker 3>it is.

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<v Speaker 5>It's pretty spectacular.

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<v Speaker 4>We actually have them and a few different spots in

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<v Speaker 4>our gardens here, so we do have them kind of

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<v Speaker 4>sprinkled throughout the garden, you know, like somebody might use

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<v Speaker 4>in their own landscaping or gardening.

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<v Speaker 5>But then we also have one bed.

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<v Speaker 4>That's entirely dedicated to the hibiscus. We call it our

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<v Speaker 4>high Biscus Hedge, and every single hibiscus in our program

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<v Speaker 4>is lined out, and it's a great place for folks

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<v Speaker 4>to see, you know, the differences in height and color

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<v Speaker 4>and bloom time and have it. So it's pretty it's

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<v Speaker 4>pretty neat to see that. And then what is really

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<v Speaker 4>mind blowing is when they start to bloom out in

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<v Speaker 4>our fields because then you know, you just have like

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<v Speaker 4>acres of beautiful, gorgeous blooming head discuss so it definitely

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<v Speaker 4>be looking at froy beans or corn.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not going to get an argument from us on

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<v Speaker 2>that one. So I love that you do a high

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<v Speaker 2>biscus hedge because that's how I grow the majority of

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<v Speaker 2>mine as well, and what works so well for me

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<v Speaker 2>growing them, So I grow them as a hedge around

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<v Speaker 2>my patio to provide some privacy. It's not like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure if they were able to reach their full size

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<v Speaker 2>they would give us a lot more privacy. But they

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<v Speaker 2>provide some privacy, you know, when we're sitting on our patio.

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<v Speaker 2>But that patio I need to shovel in the winter,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't want a bunch of plants that I

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<v Speaker 2>need to worry about breaking or anything like that. So

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<v Speaker 2>for me, the fact that they go completely dormant, the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that they emerge very late in the season, which

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<v Speaker 2>is something that I think surprises a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>They probably are pretty much the last perennial to emerge

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<v Speaker 2>every year. That works out perfectly because I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>anything there. I can pile the snow, pile the ice,

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<v Speaker 2>not worry about it, and then the snow melts and

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, four months later, I'm in it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you can also use them, you know, if

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<v Speaker 4>it's not a location where you're going to be shoveling

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<v Speaker 4>snow and don't want to break things, you can leave

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<v Speaker 4>them up for the winter. So where I have mine

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<v Speaker 4>located in my yard is not in a place where

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<v Speaker 4>I am worried about damaging them, so I actually leave

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<v Speaker 4>the stems up. I don't cut them down in the fall.

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<v Speaker 4>And when the flowers, when the petals drop off, they

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<v Speaker 4>leave the sepals oftentimes attached to the stems, and as

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<v Speaker 4>you get into fall, as the plant goes dormant and

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<v Speaker 4>drops its leeves, a lot of those little peoples stay

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<v Speaker 4>attached and eventually turn brown as to the stems. But

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's kind of a nice winter interest plant. So

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<v Speaker 4>I just leave mine up and when we do get snow,

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<v Speaker 4>even though it's not as frequent here anymore in Michigan,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know, these beautiful little stems come hoping up

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<v Speaker 4>through the snow, and then I just cut mine down

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<v Speaker 4>in the spring, you know, before they start to emerge again,

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<v Speaker 4>and in a way they go.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me ask you a crazy question about that, Laura,

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<v Speaker 1>because I have been involved in conversations with people or

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<v Speaker 1>in groups where this topic has come up and they

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<v Speaker 1>have said, Okay, you can't cut them in fall and

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<v Speaker 1>leave the stubble because the stem is kind of hollow

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<v Speaker 1>and they're going to rot out on you, So always

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<v Speaker 1>cut them in spring, not in fall. That's a myth, right, Yeah, that's.

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<v Speaker 4>Definitely an argument that people took around. There is a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit of validity to I'd say, more so than

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that they're going to rot. I would say

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<v Speaker 4>the validity is that they tend to take a while

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<v Speaker 4>to go dormant in the fall, and the longer you

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<v Speaker 4>leave the stems up, the more of that energy from

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<v Speaker 4>the stems gets pulled down into the roots and crown

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<v Speaker 4>of the plant, which helps to provide additional growth for

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<v Speaker 4>subsequent years. So I think leaving them is not a

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<v Speaker 4>bad thing because you can get a little bit more

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<v Speaker 4>energy down into the crop.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's not like it's going to you know, rot

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<v Speaker 5>or die if you do trim in the fall.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I've done it before. I know a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of other people who do trim in the fall. Kafey

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<v Speaker 4>said she does. And you know the plants are fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I mean I have again super sandy soil,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's so well drained. I definitely do not have

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<v Speaker 2>to worry about, you know, any rotting. And I do

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<v Speaker 2>leave the ones that are actually in my perennial beds,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and in my native plant garden intact, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't cut those back. I only cut these back just

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<v Speaker 2>because of the shoveling. And yeah, I do wait probably

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<v Speaker 2>until after Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a big believer too, and that you shouldn't really

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<v Speaker 2>start messing with things until they go dormant. That you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it gives a plant a huge opportunity to take in

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<v Speaker 2>that let you know, that that bit of energy, and

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<v Speaker 2>even if it's not a make or break thing, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of a like best practice, like you might

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<v Speaker 2>as well if you can do it exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, now, Laura, one of the benefits, there are many

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<v Speaker 1>benefit fits to this plant. Obviously, the dinner plate blooms.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you're planting a summarific hibiscus, would it be

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<v Speaker 1>correct to say that here in North America you're planting

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<v Speaker 1>a native plant? Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>The species headschismuschudos, is definitely native. It in its native

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<v Speaker 4>kind of environment here. It tends to grow in more

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<v Speaker 4>swampy conditions and the blooms tend to be pink on

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00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:33.480
<v Speaker 4>a lot of the specimens out in the native areas here,

835
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:36.119
<v Speaker 4>and you know, some of them look a little bit

836
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:38.800
<v Speaker 4>different in the hybrids that we've created, but yes, it

837
00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:40.760
<v Speaker 4>is a native, it is a native perennial.

838
00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:46.000
<v Speaker 1>The available color in the hybrids is just amazing. Give

839
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:49.599
<v Speaker 1>us an idea as far as Summarific Hibiscus is concerned.

840
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.960
<v Speaker 1>How many different varieties do you have? What kind of

841
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:54.360
<v Speaker 1>colors are we talking about?

842
00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:59.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so within the Summer Efic series, we have a

843
00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:03.639
<v Speaker 4>couple of kind of subclasses. So the typical habit of

844
00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:06.480
<v Speaker 4>the Summer effics that we select for is kind of

845
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:09.400
<v Speaker 4>a mounded gum drop shaped habit. But then we have

846
00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:12.679
<v Speaker 4>a few varieties that are a little bit more narrow

847
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:16.280
<v Speaker 4>and upright, and we call those the crush. So within

848
00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:19.039
<v Speaker 4>the Summer Effics series, if they have crush in their name,

849
00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:22.480
<v Speaker 4>like Candy Crush or Valentine's Crush, those tend to be

850
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:25.159
<v Speaker 4>a little bit more narrow habit, more columner.

851
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:27.199
<v Speaker 5>In the crush.

852
00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:32.679
<v Speaker 4>We have Candy Crush, Lilac Crush, and Valentine's Crush if

853
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:35.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm remembering correctly, So we have three and those are

854
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:40.079
<v Speaker 4>a pink with a really dark almost black eye, a

855
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:43.719
<v Speaker 4>nice kind of lilac color, and then Valentine's crushes of red,

856
00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:50.440
<v Speaker 4>and then in the remaining gumdrop types summer effics. We

857
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:55.400
<v Speaker 4>have anything from one of our brand new introductions that

858
00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:57.880
<v Speaker 4>we'll be able to be found at retail in spring

859
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:01.639
<v Speaker 4>of twenty twenty five. It's called cream and that one

860
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:06.960
<v Speaker 4>is a pure white, no red eye with dark almost

861
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:12.960
<v Speaker 4>black foliage. We have several different variations of pink, some

862
00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:15.159
<v Speaker 4>of them have kind of a pink and white pin

863
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:20.239
<v Speaker 4>whale pattern to them. We have a nice dark red

864
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:25.039
<v Speaker 4>called Holy Grail that again has that dark almost black foliage.

865
00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:29.519
<v Speaker 4>We have other reds that have green foliage. We have

866
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:32.960
<v Speaker 4>one called French Vanilla that is kind of a creamy yellow,

867
00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:38.960
<v Speaker 4>and we're actually working on some future selections that hopefully

868
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:44.159
<v Speaker 4>will intensify the yellow coloration. So yeah, there's just all

869
00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:46.639
<v Speaker 4>sorts of colors, and I think more to come in

870
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:50.000
<v Speaker 4>the future. We definitely have some other colors that we're

871
00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:52.760
<v Speaker 4>going to be trying to bring into the series in

872
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:55.920
<v Speaker 4>the future years, so stay tuned for what we can do.

873
00:46:56.079 --> 00:46:58.679
<v Speaker 4>I don't put you know, there's hardly anything that I

874
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:00.880
<v Speaker 4>would put past our breeder being able to do it.

875
00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:04.000
<v Speaker 4>If the genetic background is there for him to do it,

876
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:05.119
<v Speaker 4>he will make it happen.

877
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, I do. If you have a quick second, I

878
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:10.000
<v Speaker 2>have to tell this story. So I've always been crazy

879
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:12.119
<v Speaker 2>about PERENNIALI biscus one of the first things I planned

880
00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:15.039
<v Speaker 2>when I actually had my own garden. But you know,

881
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:17.119
<v Speaker 2>I working in the industry, I would always get free plants,

882
00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:18.480
<v Speaker 2>and I would try to give him to people like

883
00:47:18.519 --> 00:47:21.480
<v Speaker 2>my mother in law, and she would always just politely decline, no, no,

884
00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:23.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't have space for that. I don't have anything

885
00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:26.280
<v Speaker 2>in my you know, no, thank you, take it home.

886
00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:28.400
<v Speaker 2>It's you should have it. That kind of always declined.

887
00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:32.159
<v Speaker 2>But she loved playing candy crush, and so yeah, I

888
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:34.559
<v Speaker 2>was able to get a candy crush from you guys,

889
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:37.000
<v Speaker 2>and I, you know, I'm like, I'm gonna take it

890
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:38.800
<v Speaker 2>to her and I'm going to tell her, you know,

891
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:40.880
<v Speaker 2>if you don't want it, that's totally fine, but I

892
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:44.119
<v Speaker 2>couldn't resist giving this to you with his name, and

893
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:48.159
<v Speaker 2>her eyes just lit up. She was like it was

894
00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:51.039
<v Speaker 2>the first plan she ever actually accepted from me as

895
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:56.239
<v Speaker 2>a plant gift, and they planted it and she fell

896
00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:58.320
<v Speaker 2>head over heels in love with a high biscus like

897
00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:01.519
<v Speaker 2>just at that after she saw candy Crush bloom in

898
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:03.599
<v Speaker 2>her yard, she called me up and she said, how

899
00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:05.280
<v Speaker 2>many more can you get me? And one of the

900
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:07.480
<v Speaker 2>callers are there. I mean it was just like that

901
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:12.639
<v Speaker 2>one plant just completely made her an addict. And so I,

902
00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:14.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, gave her I think three or four other

903
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:17.480
<v Speaker 2>colors and she planted all of them and they just

904
00:48:18.239 --> 00:48:21.559
<v Speaker 2>love them. And unfortunately she did pass away. But for me,

905
00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:25.079
<v Speaker 2>I love that I have that connection. And when candy

906
00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:27.360
<v Speaker 2>Crush first blooms, which actually my first Candy Crush blooms

907
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:29.960
<v Speaker 2>just appeared this week, you know, it always brings a

908
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:31.920
<v Speaker 2>little tear to my eye and just like a really

909
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:35.440
<v Speaker 2>great memory, and you know, it's just it's it's just

910
00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:37.159
<v Speaker 2>one of those things. I'm just so grateful that you

911
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:39.039
<v Speaker 2>guys gave it that name and that I was able

912
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:41.159
<v Speaker 2>to have that connection and just one of those things

913
00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:42.840
<v Speaker 2>you never really know when you put something out into

914
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:44.960
<v Speaker 2>the world how it's going to actually impact people.

915
00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:48.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Absolutely, that's a great story. And sorry about the

916
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:51.719
<v Speaker 5>loss of my mother in law, but hopefully she was

917
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:54.400
<v Speaker 5>able to enjoy it. Oh my God before that happened.

918
00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:56.760
<v Speaker 2>And now my father in law loves them and looks

919
00:48:56.760 --> 00:48:59.440
<v Speaker 2>forward to them blooming every single year. But every single

920
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:01.880
<v Speaker 2>year he does this, calls me up in May. Those

921
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:05.199
<v Speaker 2>plants are dead. Those plants are dead. Are you sure?

922
00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:08.199
<v Speaker 2>I said, no, they're gonna They're fine. They will start growing,

923
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:11.159
<v Speaker 2>and and then he'll call me up. Okay, they started growing,

924
00:49:11.199 --> 00:49:12.880
<v Speaker 2>but they're really small. Are you sure they're going to

925
00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:15.519
<v Speaker 2>be okay? Sure, they're going to be okay. And then

926
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:17.880
<v Speaker 2>of course, you know, August rolls around and it's just,

927
00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:22.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, back to that incredible abundance. And honestly, watching

928
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.760
<v Speaker 2>that transition from this tiny little shoot at the end

929
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:30.320
<v Speaker 2>of May to just this, you know, boffo huge plant

930
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:33.440
<v Speaker 2>with a normal enormous flowers is like, I don't know,

931
00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:35.440
<v Speaker 2>It's just one of the things that I like most

932
00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:38.679
<v Speaker 2>about perennials in general, but especially the summarific hibiscus.

933
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:43.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they have such a quick growth rate. I mean,

934
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:46.960
<v Speaker 4>when you consider the fact that they are one of

935
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:50.519
<v Speaker 4>the last of a perennials to emerge, just how quickly

936
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:54.239
<v Speaker 4>they go from you know, nothing to five or six

937
00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:55.960
<v Speaker 4>feet on some of the tallest varieties.

938
00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:57.079
<v Speaker 5>They're they're so fast.

939
00:49:57.239 --> 00:49:58.079
<v Speaker 2>It's so cool to see.

940
00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:02.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, here in the North the epitome of a late bloomer,

941
00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:06.599
<v Speaker 1>but when they bloom, it's magnificent, Laura. For folks who

942
00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:10.239
<v Speaker 1>want to learn more about summarific hibiscus, where do you

943
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:11.039
<v Speaker 1>suggest they go?

944
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:16.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so there's a lot of good information on the internet.

945
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:19.920
<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of great information on the Proven Winters website.

946
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:26.199
<v Speaker 4>And then we actually have a consumer facing portion of

947
00:50:26.280 --> 00:50:30.039
<v Speaker 4>our website called Pernial Resource, and that's another great place

948
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:32.599
<v Speaker 4>where they can learn about the summer us. And what

949
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:38.400
<v Speaker 4>website is that, Laura, That is just Perennial Resource dot com.

950
00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:40.599
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we'll link to that in the show notes too

951
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:43.000
<v Speaker 2>for anybody who wants to hear, because that is a

952
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:46.440
<v Speaker 2>great website, not just for Summerrific but for all sorts

953
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:48.760
<v Speaker 2>of perennials. I rely on that website quite a bit myself.

954
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:52.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we Yeah, it is not just high discus on

955
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:54.960
<v Speaker 4>either that or the Proven Winters website. They don't we

956
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:58.960
<v Speaker 4>don't have a specific two hibiscus website, but yeah, either

957
00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:02.480
<v Speaker 4>of those are great resources for my bescus and anything

958
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:05.320
<v Speaker 4>else that they want to research. Antonio, And I mean the.

959
00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Other thing is there's you don't need a ton of

960
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:12.559
<v Speaker 2>knowledge to grow these, I mean, sun space water watch out.

961
00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:16.000
<v Speaker 4>Yep, they're pretty easy once you get a planted that

962
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:19.519
<v Speaker 4>they just kind of take care of themselves. And yeah,

963
00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:20.559
<v Speaker 4>they're not too bad.

964
00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Fantastic. Thanks for what you do, Laura, and thank you

965
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:25.079
<v Speaker 1>for spending time with us.

966
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:27.239
<v Speaker 2>I need to know what Laura's favorite.

967
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:32.920
<v Speaker 5>To I was waiting for this question. I was feeling

968
00:51:33.000 --> 00:51:34.199
<v Speaker 5>that this was going to come out.

969
00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:37.320
<v Speaker 4>So I do have actually a quick answer, which isn't

970
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:41.239
<v Speaker 4>always the case, but my favorite summerfic Tybscus is actually

971
00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:45.079
<v Speaker 4>Edge of Night. So that is a variety that we

972
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:49.719
<v Speaker 4>introduced probably two or three years ago now into the program,

973
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:53.000
<v Speaker 4>and it was kind of the first of our more

974
00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:56.719
<v Speaker 4>compact types. So it will get up to about let's

975
00:51:56.719 --> 00:51:59.440
<v Speaker 4>say three and a half feet, you're going a half

976
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:02.639
<v Speaker 4>to four feet in width and height, and it is

977
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:07.760
<v Speaker 4>a gorgeous kind of bubblegum pink flower on the darkest

978
00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:12.360
<v Speaker 4>closest to black foliage of any of the varieties in

979
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:16.159
<v Speaker 4>the series so far. So just that color contrast between

980
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:21.599
<v Speaker 4>the pink and the black. It's just spectaculus, all right.

981
00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:23.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't have that one in my collection. I'm going

982
00:52:23.159 --> 00:52:23.639
<v Speaker 2>to have to add it.

983
00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:24.920
<v Speaker 1>And it's a great point.

984
00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:25.679
<v Speaker 5>Need to get that one.

985
00:52:26.079 --> 00:52:28.360
<v Speaker 1>It's a great point that you know, all the attention

986
00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:32.559
<v Speaker 1>is towards these dinner plate blooms, but the foliage can

987
00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:33.920
<v Speaker 1>play a starring role too.

988
00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:36.119
<v Speaker 5>Oh, it really does.

989
00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:40.960
<v Speaker 4>I have three of that one planted in one of

990
00:52:41.039 --> 00:52:44.480
<v Speaker 4>my beds on like the far back side of my yard.

991
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:48.639
<v Speaker 4>And I'm definitely a big folious person. Like in addition

992
00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:51.599
<v Speaker 4>to flowers, I like to mix, you know, varying shades

993
00:52:51.639 --> 00:52:55.960
<v Speaker 4>of purple and black and silver and chartreuse into my landscape.

994
00:52:56.119 --> 00:53:00.239
<v Speaker 4>And those hibiscus look amazing from day one, and you know,

995
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:03.159
<v Speaker 4>as soon as they emerge because they have that dark

996
00:53:03.199 --> 00:53:06.400
<v Speaker 4>pulage and it's just like a nice focal point in

997
00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:08.400
<v Speaker 4>the landscape. And then when they start to bloom, it's

998
00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:09.159
<v Speaker 4>even better.

999
00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:13.119
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's great, fantastic, Well, a pleasure to talk

1000
00:53:13.159 --> 00:53:15.480
<v Speaker 1>to you, Laura. Thanks for everything that you do, and

1001
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:21.039
<v Speaker 1>thanks for sharing the enthusiasm that we share with you

1002
00:53:21.480 --> 00:53:23.039
<v Speaker 1>for summarific high biscus.

1003
00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:27.039
<v Speaker 4>Yep, absolutely, it was a joy being on your show.

1004
00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:28.119
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Laura.

1005
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:30.360
<v Speaker 2>All Right, Well, I don't know about you, but I

1006
00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:32.760
<v Speaker 2>am awfully glad I get to go home and spend

1007
00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:35.760
<v Speaker 2>the day with my summerrific high biscus here in the

1008
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:37.760
<v Speaker 2>height of summer. So thanks so much to Laura for

1009
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:40.960
<v Speaker 2>all that great information. Thank you Rick, and thanks Adriana,

1010
00:53:41.079 --> 00:53:43.159
<v Speaker 2>and thanks to all of you for listening. We really

1011
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:45.559
<v Speaker 2>appreciate your support and hope you have a great week ahead.
