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<v Speaker 1>You'll be away five seventeen. Do you want to report

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<v Speaker 1>a UFO hanging in We don't want to report every

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one. Do you wish to report a.

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<v Speaker 2>UFO over hey, we want to one of.

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<v Speaker 3>Those areas thirty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you wish to find a report of any kind

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<v Speaker 2>of it?

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds.

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<v Speaker 1>Time areas thirty one me neither there. See if it

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<v Speaker 1>was anybody above us to pass us, Like thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Seconds ago, we were sending one top of golf negative, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>OFFI the UFO. Yeah, it's murder two nine o'clock.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I'll just passed over God.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it was, but it's from at

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<v Speaker 2>least to three thousand feet above us. See, I passed right.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the top of us ninety one one.

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<v Speaker 2>You just called both to me before.

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<v Speaker 1>They're after staying the airplanes.

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<v Speaker 4>Here to God on an unidentify object every liberty four

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<v Speaker 4>call or calm on an unidentified flying object.

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<v Speaker 2>A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share

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<v Speaker 2>their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had

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<v Speaker 2>an encounter, I would like to be on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. Wherever in the

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<v Speaker 2>world you are listening from, I hope you are well

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<v Speaker 2>and having a good week. I'm Nick Canter and this

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<v Speaker 2>is the UFO Chronicles podcast. Starting off tonight is sisters

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<v Speaker 2>Franni and Mandy calling from the state of Connecticut in

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<v Speaker 2>the US share in three very interesting encounters. Then, staying

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<v Speaker 2>on the East Coast, we speak with Walter in New

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<v Speaker 2>Jersey about what he witnessed above Rueton Bay back in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety eight. Franni and Mandy up next. If you

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<v Speaker 2>helps the show to continue running. Now on with the show, Hello,

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<v Speaker 2>Franny and Mandy, Welcome to the show, nig Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>both for joining us. Today and you're calling from Connecticut

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<v Speaker 2>in the US. Yes, right, yes, we are wonderful. Are

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<v Speaker 2>you getting hit with the snow at a minute?

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<v Speaker 5>No, not yet, that's further up north, not over here yet,

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<v Speaker 5>not so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's good then, don't have to get your snow

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<v Speaker 2>shows out just yet. Now you have two experiences to

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<v Speaker 2>share over tonight. Would you like to start the beginning please?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yes, we'll start with the first one and and

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<v Speaker 5>we'll share the other. Okay, So we're going back, like

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<v Speaker 5>we grew up in Puerto Rico, So we're going back

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<v Speaker 5>to the year nineteen eighty in Puerto Rico. We lived

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<v Speaker 5>and when I say we, it was Mandy and I

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<v Speaker 5>we were seven years old, and then our older sister,

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<v Speaker 5>she was thirteen at the time, and our mom, she

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<v Speaker 5>was a single mom. We lived in a high rise

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<v Speaker 5>and we were on the ninth floor. Our apartment had

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<v Speaker 5>a balcony and we could see pretty much like all

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<v Speaker 5>the way up too. We were in some Juan, so

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<v Speaker 5>we could see all the way up to where the

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<v Speaker 5>sea was, like the Atlantic Ocean, so we could see

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<v Speaker 5>all of that. It was a beautiful view. One night,

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<v Speaker 5>I believe it was a school night, it could have.

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<v Speaker 5>It must have been, because we were in bed like

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<v Speaker 5>at a pretty good time in nineteen eighty and all

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<v Speaker 5>of a sudden our mother. We hear our mother frantically

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<v Speaker 5>calling all three of us out of our bedrooms. Come here,

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<v Speaker 5>come here, come here, and she takes us to the

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<v Speaker 5>balcony and right there in the horizon, just hovering above

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<v Speaker 5>the city. And when I say city, you could see

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of like that, all the high rises, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the skyline, and it was nighttime, so you could see

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<v Speaker 5>like the lights forming the skyline, and there was this

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<v Speaker 5>huge thing like the photo we send you.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just like that.

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<v Speaker 5>I cannot remember where I found that photo online, but

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<v Speaker 5>it looked just like that, like the rectangular lights, one

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<v Speaker 5>next to the other. I remember them in orange. Our

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<v Speaker 5>older sister told me a few years ago that she

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<v Speaker 5>remembers them yellowish, and mainly I don't know what color.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember yellowish. So it was huge. It was like

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<v Speaker 5>at least most have been like three football fields put

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<v Speaker 5>together there just floating there. Just it wasn't whole. It

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<v Speaker 5>was just there and then so we were able to

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<v Speaker 5>take a good look. It wasn't like something that lasted

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<v Speaker 5>a few seconds. It was we got a good We're

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<v Speaker 5>there for a while, yes, looking at it, but then

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<v Speaker 5>all of a sudden, it started kind of like retracting,

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<v Speaker 5>like flying away, and then it was so fast it

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<v Speaker 5>was like a supersonic kind of Yeah. It wasn't like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it's not like brand speed or like a space shuttle.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like it's a speed that you cannot I can.

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<v Speaker 5>We cannot explain it because it's like super like you

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<v Speaker 5>see it, but it's like a blink of an eye

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<v Speaker 5>gone until there was just a dot, like a light,

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<v Speaker 5>a dot, and then it just disappeared. Yeah, just like

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<v Speaker 5>a It's pretty cool. It was pretty cool. But then

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<v Speaker 5>there's something else that we barely talk about, maybe because

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<v Speaker 5>it was it's something that feels like a dream. We

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<v Speaker 5>finally started talking about it, but we didn't talk about

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<v Speaker 5>it for like years. We were thirteen Prota Rico stay

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<v Speaker 5>all over there and we had bunk beds, so Frannie

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<v Speaker 5>hat top bunk. I had the bottom the lower bunk.

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<v Speaker 5>And one night I must have woken up. We must

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<v Speaker 5>have been sleeping, Yeah, we woke up. I guess first

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<v Speaker 5>I wake up and I book toward the head of

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<v Speaker 5>my bunk and I see a pair of pants, like

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<v Speaker 5>dark pants. It's like a dark figure, just just pants.

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<v Speaker 5>I saw a hat because I was on the top bunk, right.

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<v Speaker 5>But and we didn't add this to the email, Nick,

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<v Speaker 5>because we just heard the episode about the episode somebody

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<v Speaker 5>describes something like that, and we were we slid because

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<v Speaker 5>somebody you were had in the show and the person

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<v Speaker 5>was describing what we we now we know it has

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<v Speaker 5>a name, right, I had man.

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<v Speaker 1>But we just.

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<v Speaker 5>Discovered this like after we send you the email and

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<v Speaker 5>we reached out to you. We just realized this like

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<v Speaker 5>like three days ago Tuesday. Yeah, just this past Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 5>and me and Maybe was driving and she slammed on

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<v Speaker 5>the brakes and she sent it to me. I was

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<v Speaker 5>at work. I was like, no freaking way, this has

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<v Speaker 5>a name, right, So that was yeah that. I mean

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<v Speaker 5>all these years I thought it was like or something.

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<v Speaker 5>Wait a minute, yeah, that it and other people see it,

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<v Speaker 5>so now we know that thanks to your show. There's

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<v Speaker 5>another one that's Yeah, it's only three experiences that we had,

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<v Speaker 5>and they're very short, and we really are like not

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<v Speaker 5>talking people, like we're very like short and sweet kind

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<v Speaker 5>of sort of people. The one that really amazes us

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<v Speaker 5>happened here in Connecticut. We've been here thirty one years,

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<v Speaker 5>living here and black with the Bumpets. We've always shared

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<v Speaker 5>a room when we were single, before we got married,

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<v Speaker 5>we always shared a room. And we we were like,

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<v Speaker 5>what twenty five five, this is our late nineteen nineties, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>the late nineties, and again we were sharing the room

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<v Speaker 5>and we had a big like one of those queen bets,

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<v Speaker 5>and we had to share it again because we always

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<v Speaker 5>had to share. And it was nighttime and we're both sleeping.

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<v Speaker 5>Mandy's right next to me and something I'm just I'm

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<v Speaker 5>waking up for no reason. I wake up and look

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<v Speaker 5>up to the ceiling and right there on the ceiling

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<v Speaker 5>floating quietly, and it's floating and it's peaceful floating. It's

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<v Speaker 5>the best way I can explain it. There are these symbols.

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<v Speaker 5>They're not letters, they're not numbers. They're glowing on their own.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not a reflection, it's individually. They each glow and

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<v Speaker 5>they're floating. Sometimes the one will be a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>over the other one, but they're like just glowing all

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<v Speaker 5>over the ceiling. When we say they're not letters or numbers,

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<v Speaker 5>Mandy and I are history junkies. We have always been,

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<v Speaker 5>and ever since we had that experience in the late nineties,

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<v Speaker 5>we have search and search for something that resembles these symbols.

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<v Speaker 5>We have been found this. So it's it's not letters

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<v Speaker 5>that we know of. It's not we cannot explain it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not an alpha of it that we can say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>oh this, No, we haven't found anything anything like it

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<v Speaker 3>that resembles it, but we know it's just the best

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<v Speaker 3>way we can describe it simple and.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just nice and glowing. So I'm like, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 5>Mandy's next to me. So then I'm like, many, what

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<v Speaker 5>was I doing? Was I was not Genie right? But

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<v Speaker 5>you were also saying Mandy. So my back is toward

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<v Speaker 5>friend Franny, and then I hear her saying she's not Jimmy,

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<v Speaker 5>and then she says, Mendy, what's that? Now my back

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<v Speaker 5>is to her. So when I hear Mandy, what's that,

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<v Speaker 5>for some reason that I don't know, I don't look

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<v Speaker 5>I don't look at her. I don't turn around and

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<v Speaker 5>look at her to see what she's referring to. I

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<v Speaker 5>know immediately I cannot explain why. I know immediately that

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<v Speaker 5>I have to look up and I see the letters

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<v Speaker 5>and it was it was so amazing, amazing, what is that?

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<v Speaker 5>So then I just because I like, unfortunately at that moment,

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<v Speaker 5>I like to sleep, so I said, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 5>and I just went back to sleep. She turned around

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<v Speaker 5>and went back to sleep. But you stayed up, and

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<v Speaker 5>you saw, yeah, it was a little longer, Yeah, a

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<v Speaker 5>little longer like that. It was. It was just they

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<v Speaker 5>were beautiful. And now we looked back and we're like,

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<v Speaker 5>why didn't we stay up? But then all we had

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<v Speaker 5>to do was jump up, like stand up on the

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<v Speaker 5>bed and try to touch the manu. All the windows

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<v Speaker 5>were closed because we're paranoid. Our house was like a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit isolated from the other houses on the street,

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<v Speaker 5>so parent we were like, oh my god, we're like

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<v Speaker 5>in the middle of nowhere, so to speak. So let's

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<v Speaker 5>close everything. We don't want any creep looking at. So

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<v Speaker 5>the blackout shades were down drawn like everything was covered.

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<v Speaker 5>The door it was closed, like there's no way anything

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<v Speaker 5>from the outside. They were just there floating and they

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<v Speaker 5>were beautiful again. And so the next day I wake

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<v Speaker 5>up and I start getting ready and I see that

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<v Speaker 5>friend it's just sitting up in bed, just looking at me.

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<v Speaker 5>I had no recollection. At this point, the memory is gone.

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<v Speaker 5>Had she not asked me to this day, I still

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<v Speaker 5>wouldn't remember. But then I see her sitting in bed

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<v Speaker 5>looking at me in my every move and I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what's going on. I keep getting my clothes,

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<v Speaker 5>and then she says, Mandy, what was that? And that

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<v Speaker 5>at that moment everything came back floating, the floating, blowing.

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<v Speaker 5>They turn around and I said, what's that? And then

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<v Speaker 5>she goes, you saw them too, huh? I said, oh

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<v Speaker 5>my god, yes, And then that at that moment we

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<v Speaker 5>realized we had experienced something parallel, extthing extraorgy Harry beautiful

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<v Speaker 5>and like it's just me. It was really wonderful. And

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<v Speaker 5>I know the UFOs are like because people are getting

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<v Speaker 5>to see them more now people can record them, so

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<v Speaker 5>glowing symbols. Yeah, we wanted to share this just because

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<v Speaker 5>we've gone online to see if someone else has experienced

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<v Speaker 5>it and we haven't found anything. So maybe if we

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<v Speaker 5>can say, Okay, other people see it, maybe give an

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<v Speaker 2>Good job, that was nice and easy. So these symbols,

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<v Speaker 2>they say that your blinds were dying, your windows were closed,

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<v Speaker 2>there was no reflection or anything coming through the window.

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<v Speaker 5>Or the door or the door, and they were floating,

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<v Speaker 5>you know when you reflect something like we had the

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<v Speaker 5>technology these days like people do Christmas that you could

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<v Speaker 5>see it from outside. The things floating on the outside.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not like that. They were floating on top of it.

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<v Speaker 5>their own light and that would flow. Sometimes they would

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<v Speaker 5>the other one and then they would go. It's like

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<v Speaker 5>floating like little slow dance of symbols. It was no

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<v Speaker 5>ref it was no reflection. It was it was it's

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<v Speaker 5>like kind of like the UFO that when you see it,

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<v Speaker 5>you know it's not an airplane. You know, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you know you know what you've you seen, and you

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I tell my husband, he's like, no with on airplane. No,

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<v Speaker 5>when you see it, you realize you're seeing something different.

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<v Speaker 2>And these symbols, were they just singular symbols or were

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<v Speaker 2>they in groups regular?

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<v Speaker 5>But it was a big group a singular symbols.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, did they resemble letters at all?

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<v Speaker 5>That's the thing, like, that's yeah, like when we talk

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<v Speaker 5>amongst ourselves, we say the letters, the symbols, the numbers,

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<v Speaker 5>the numbers, but they don't resemble they were not or

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<v Speaker 5>any system that we've and we've gone back to our

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<v Speaker 5>ancient Greek. We go back to searching ancient symbols, we

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<v Speaker 5>say Asian. We're not talking all the Roman times. No,

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<v Speaker 5>we're going back back back to when people like you

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<v Speaker 5>see online and national geographic that people wrote and like Stone,

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<v Speaker 5>we cannot find them.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you looked at Enochian? What I'll do is I'll

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<v Speaker 2>just I just send it to you.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, do you want us to look at it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just take a look. See if they look these

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<v Speaker 2>look familiar?

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<v Speaker 5>Godness, no, that's not you know, I'm gonna say no,

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<v Speaker 2>That's all right? Would you be able to maybe draw

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<v Speaker 2>any anything that you remember.

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<v Speaker 5>So the closest one not exactly, but the closest one

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<v Speaker 5>that we found, but closest not really that I can

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<v Speaker 5>say that. We can say, oh yeah right, no, but

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<v Speaker 5>it's like closest closest yeah yeah, if if I'm let

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<v Speaker 5>me say, I can describe it. We've looked at the

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<v Speaker 5>Hebrew alphabet on it looks very similar to the very

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<v Speaker 5>first one. Also with the Greek alphabet. But we're talking

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<v Speaker 5>like crazy, you resemble that, but it's not close.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not right because what you can do if

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<v Speaker 2>you remember or maybe draw draw a cup for out.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a program where I can I can do

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<v Speaker 2>a drawing of a symbol and it will tell me

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<v Speaker 2>the closest to it if if it appears anywhere online.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, my goodness, Nick, thank you, thank you, Nick, thank

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<v Speaker 5>you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so try try that because yeah, and that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>definitely very unusual. I mean seeing symbols.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, we would have to go back to Freddy's account

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<v Speaker 5>because I went right back to sleep. Many went back

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<v Speaker 5>to see because many lost sleeping. But I'm going to

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<v Speaker 5>say five minutes, five minutes, and that's what bogs me

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<v Speaker 5>because I could have easily, just Nick. All I had

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<v Speaker 5>to do was stand on the bed, both of us,

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<v Speaker 5>and we could have at least touched it to see

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<v Speaker 5>what it was. But what was it to touch him?

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<v Speaker 5>Because again, they were not reflected on the ceiling. They

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<v Speaker 5>were floating. You could see that it was space. There

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<v Speaker 5>was space between all of them, like space here and there,

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<v Speaker 5>just floating. So we could have done that, We could

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<v Speaker 5>have just tried to touch them, but we didn't. But

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<v Speaker 5>they were beautiful. It's like such a beautiful, beautiful memory.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's very interesting that when we talked about this

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<v Speaker 5>years later that day, I don't I felt very happy.

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<v Speaker 5>The rest of the thing. It was peaceful. It was peaceful,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, it's it was I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 5>left you with I felt some good goods. It was

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<v Speaker 5>just peaceful. They're floating, like, yeah, just floating.

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<v Speaker 2>And you weren't scared. You weren't scared this, not at.

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<v Speaker 5>All at all, not at all, not one bit. Nope, No,

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<v Speaker 5>it was it was very cool. It was very cool.

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<v Speaker 2>M And in this in this house in particular, you

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't had anything like that.

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<v Speaker 5>No, No, that's the only one. What you mean if

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<v Speaker 5>if we know of anything like that happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Before, or anything that happened to you guys in the house.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh no, just that that one experience, that one, okay, And.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you tell your parents at the time, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>our parents.

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<v Speaker 5>Next day, we just anyone who would listen, We're told

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<v Speaker 5>because there was amazing Nikki, you cannot it was amazing

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<v Speaker 5>to see that floating all over your ceiling. It's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>And what did your parents say?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, our that is very Christian. I'm not saying we're not,

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<v Speaker 5>but he said when we explained, and he said, well,

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<v Speaker 5>the Holy Spirit was there with you guys. That's what

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<v Speaker 5>he said. I know I same peace because he passed,

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<v Speaker 5>but he at that moment he said it was the

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<v Speaker 5>Holy Spirit. I don't remember what our mom said, but

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<v Speaker 5>we did tell. We told them, our parents, our older sister,

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<v Speaker 5>we told. We told all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, okay, yeah, so we put we put a call

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<v Speaker 2>out there, anyone, anyone of our listeners out there, if

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<v Speaker 2>you sing something similar to what Franny and Amandy has

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<v Speaker 2>seen in the form of symbols, floating symbols and they

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<v Speaker 2>were like a green color.

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<v Speaker 5>Well I remember them green, like like slimy green I

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<v Speaker 5>remember them a golden like a light of golden light, right,

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<v Speaker 5>made out of golden light?

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<v Speaker 2>I should right, Okay, so you remember its two different ways?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, but Mandy's color blind. I should have said that, Mandy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes I see colors different, right that we could be

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<v Speaker 5>at a party and everyone's no, that's blue and she

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<v Speaker 5>sees purple.

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<v Speaker 2>Things like that, so okay, gotcha, all right, Yes, that

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<v Speaker 2>that might be the reason.

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<v Speaker 5>Why.

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<v Speaker 2>So if there's any of our listeners out there which

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<v Speaker 2>have experienced anything very similar to what these ladies have,

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<v Speaker 2>let us know, would be interested. Definitely. Yeah, if you

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<v Speaker 2>can maybe do a drawer in the best, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the best you can of what you do, remember, we will,

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<v Speaker 2>we will, we will. And yeah, we'll see if we

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<v Speaker 2>can track track them down and or we just we'll

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<v Speaker 2>put them on the internet and see if anyone recognizes

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<v Speaker 2>those symbols.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, okay, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Nick, no problem. And yeah, so your encounter with the hat.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, we didn't even know it.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't know.

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<v Speaker 5>This is crazy. Yeah, and this is why we're so

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<v Speaker 5>glad that we bump into your show, because we are

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<v Speaker 5>able not to put a name to that experience is

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<v Speaker 5>that one experience, right, that one experience we left behind,

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<v Speaker 5>not like the symbols that were even the UFO, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>that we were very clear that we saw that. But

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<v Speaker 5>the hat man we just two days ago. Two days ago,

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<v Speaker 5>we were like, what that's why that has a name

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<v Speaker 5>and people see it all over the world, Like we

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<v Speaker 5>had no clue what. We had no clue that was

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<v Speaker 5>a thing at all. But then we said, why don't

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<v Speaker 5>we show it? Since we had the day today with

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<v Speaker 5>you to be on the show, we said, well, why

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<v Speaker 5>don't we just at that one? But that it was strange.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't even remember the pants. It wasn't settling. That

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<v Speaker 5>experience was like, was not a guy in the room

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<v Speaker 5>And we're like, what was that? It wasn't that wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>like the letters that it was priceful. That one was like,

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<v Speaker 5>there's someone in the room, let me go. I just

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<v Speaker 5>standing there. Yeah he was just standing then because it's

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<v Speaker 5>a tall figure. I saw the top and Mandy saw

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<v Speaker 5>the bottom. But he's just standing. There's not doing anything else,

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<v Speaker 5>just theand and it's the weirdest thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was in Puerto Rico.

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<v Speaker 5>This was in Puerto Rico. Yeah, this was yeah, eighty

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<v Speaker 5>seven eighty six, eighty.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven, So yeah, he definitely does get seen all over.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember that the type of hat he was

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<v Speaker 2>wearing were Yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 5>Asking Franny fran She remembers the hat, but she doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>remember the specific like what kind of hat? You know

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<v Speaker 5>how some people since two days ago that we heard

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<v Speaker 5>your show and we knew it was a thing. Some

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<v Speaker 5>people say this kind of hat or that kind of hat.

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<v Speaker 5>I just remember a hat. It could be a hat

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<v Speaker 5>from those people in the forties, in the nineteen forties

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<v Speaker 5>or I honestly, I wish I could be more specific,

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<v Speaker 5>but I really can't. I saw he had something on

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<v Speaker 5>his head, so I really I associated it with a hat.

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<v Speaker 2>And you couldn't see a thing or anything.

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<v Speaker 5>No, No, it's just like a shadow. It was dark,

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<v Speaker 5>just so dark and right, and the room is pitch black.

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<v Speaker 5>So we're just if you can believe that, like a

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<v Speaker 5>room pitch black, and then you can see this bigger there.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the best way we can.

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<v Speaker 2>Plain it, of course. And Mandy only got the pants.

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<v Speaker 5>I got the pants. Yeah, I saw the pants and

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<v Speaker 5>I said, what, there's someone there, And I just think,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, thirteen years old, you think that you can

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<v Speaker 5>just if you turn over, it's going to disappear.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I did.

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<v Speaker 5>I turn over, said okay, turning over. She turned over

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<v Speaker 5>with the tymbles too. Yeah, I do too, she does

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<v Speaker 5>that compromiser sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm the same when in D turnover under the

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<v Speaker 2>covers and.

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<v Speaker 5>Go back to sleep, it'll go away, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, I mean I've had several people for

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<v Speaker 2>the strange shadowy figure wearing various different hats and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's recorded literally all over the world.

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<v Speaker 5>So weird, it's weird. Yeah, but we're glad that we

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<v Speaker 5>can put a name to it, right right, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>as good a name as you can keep something like

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<v Speaker 5>oh my god name We were we were like, we

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<v Speaker 5>were like what today say? This is crazy? So we said, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>now that we're going to talk to me, maybe the

421
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<v Speaker 5>glowing symbols some people have seen them too, and maybe

422
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<v Speaker 5>they could put a name to it or whatever. Maybe

423
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<v Speaker 5>now they can come forward and share.

424
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<v Speaker 2>It to exactly right right exactly yeah, hopefully, Yeah, I

425
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<v Speaker 2>don't think this is going to be an isolated incident.

426
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<v Speaker 2>Hopeful that would be interesting to find out where they

427
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<v Speaker 2>originate from, right, yes, right, did you grow up in

428
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<v Speaker 2>a particular religious family.

429
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<v Speaker 5>Our peons were divorced and our father was Christians, Christian believer,

430
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<v Speaker 5>taught us about the Bible, taught us, you know, do

431
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<v Speaker 5>the right thing, you know, everything about Jesus teaching and

432
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<v Speaker 5>loving and forgiving and all that. Our mom was not

433
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<v Speaker 5>that religious. Not that she wasn't. She does believe, you know,

434
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<v Speaker 5>there's a higher power and that you know, you guys

435
00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:01.480
<v Speaker 5>should pray and all that, but to sit down and

436
00:25:01.599 --> 00:25:04.519
<v Speaker 5>talk to us about like Jesus teachings and the Bible's

437
00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:06.640
<v Speaker 5>teachings like our d she was not like that. So

438
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<v Speaker 5>we kind of like we took a little bit from here,

439
00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:10.400
<v Speaker 5>a little bit from there, and then.

440
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<v Speaker 2>Exactly take the good bits right right. Wonderful, Okay, and

441
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<v Speaker 2>now your UFO. You saw.

442
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<v Speaker 5>It was huge, huge because it was over over the sea,

443
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<v Speaker 5>over the sea, over the city, like over all the

444
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<v Speaker 5>buildings we're talking like like a city. If you see,

445
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<v Speaker 5>if you go on Google Earth and go over like

446
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<v Speaker 5>the saone the metro area someone by the coastline, you

447
00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:40.200
<v Speaker 5>could see these are high rises. They're not like, you know,

448
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<v Speaker 5>one hundred story buildings, but they're easily twenty thirty stories high.

449
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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, if that thing was gonna land from where

450
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<v Speaker 5>it was. I say, it was like three football fields

451
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<v Speaker 5>easily easily huge clear clear clear, nick like clear, there's

452
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<v Speaker 5>no that that was not that was no plane, that

453
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<v Speaker 5>was no. But back in the eighties, you couldn't talk

454
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<v Speaker 5>about these things, right, You couldn't no super taboo, super tablo,

455
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<v Speaker 5>you could not mention. It's like now you're telling millennial

456
00:26:13.400 --> 00:26:15.480
<v Speaker 5>I saw UFO and they said, oh yeah, I saw

457
00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:17.480
<v Speaker 5>one too when I was in Thailand. I took a picture.

458
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<v Speaker 5>I took a picture here. But back then, oh no, no.

459
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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, you're absolutely right down there that you know,

460
00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:29.559
<v Speaker 2>they're no stranger to UFO activity as soon these experiences

461
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<v Speaker 2>go back a long way on the island. And you

462
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<v Speaker 2>said it was like a huge oval shape.

463
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<v Speaker 5>Mm hm yes. We found a picture one, yeah, and

464
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<v Speaker 5>that's it looked exactly exactly like that one, like the one.

465
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<v Speaker 2>We sent you on the email, and with the with

466
00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:47.640
<v Speaker 2>the lights and everything. The lights would grow.

467
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<v Speaker 5>Every the whole the whole thing everything. And I like

468
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<v Speaker 5>the picture and that's why we send it to you

469
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<v Speaker 5>because you could see a city on the bottom like

470
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<v Speaker 5>of the picture. You could see lights of like buildings.

471
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<v Speaker 5>So that's exactly what we saw.

472
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<v Speaker 2>I mean some and that big. You know, it would

473
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<v Speaker 2>have been definitely seen by multiple people around the city, right,

474
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<v Speaker 2>I think.

475
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<v Speaker 5>Right, yes, And all four of us saw it, all

476
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<v Speaker 5>four of us. It's not like Mandy sow it or

477
00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:12.960
<v Speaker 5>our sister saw it or our mon. It was all

478
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<v Speaker 5>four of us on the balcony at the same time,

479
00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:18.960
<v Speaker 5>at the same time, just seeing this thing, just like

480
00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:23.359
<v Speaker 5>what what in the world? You know, it's something different,

481
00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:26.680
<v Speaker 5>you know. And then the way it took off, Yes,

482
00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:30.359
<v Speaker 5>the speed right like supersonic. There has to be a

483
00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:32.119
<v Speaker 5>name for that type of speed that you know, we're

484
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<v Speaker 5>not scientists, but there has to be a.

485
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<v Speaker 1>Name for that.

486
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<v Speaker 5>The way it feed left and then it was like

487
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<v Speaker 5>a star and then it would.

488
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<v Speaker 2>Both gone And did it shoot off straight up?

489
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<v Speaker 5>You know, it wasn't It wasn't like up. It was

490
00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:50.400
<v Speaker 5>more like a way back away, backing away and not

491
00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:52.920
<v Speaker 5>going up. It was more like back in a way,

492
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<v Speaker 5>but no way towards the going back right to the horizon, right.

493
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So it was away away from you, Yes, just.

494
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:06.839
<v Speaker 5>Like that if you could call that moving, because it

495
00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:10.559
<v Speaker 5>was literally like the speed was unbelievable, Like the way

496
00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:15.200
<v Speaker 5>then it's like a star we're gonna call it like

497
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<v Speaker 5>a star and then the star disappears.

498
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<v Speaker 2>H okay.

499
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:21.880
<v Speaker 5>And that was in nineteen eighty, nineteen eighty, nineteen eighty nine.

500
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<v Speaker 2>We definitely looked that up to see and that was

501
00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:28.880
<v Speaker 2>over the main city. Yes, one m I mean something

502
00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:30.440
<v Speaker 2>so big. I mean it has to have been seen

503
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<v Speaker 2>by it.

504
00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:34.279
<v Speaker 5>Happened to so you would think. But then we've heard

505
00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:36.759
<v Speaker 5>also on the show on this on your show, that

506
00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:39.119
<v Speaker 5>some people see things and the person next to them

507
00:28:39.319 --> 00:28:42.759
<v Speaker 5>does not see them. So how that's something I learned

508
00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:45.640
<v Speaker 5>with this show, Nick that I didn't know that sometimes

509
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:49.519
<v Speaker 5>people see part normal things or UFOs and not everybody

510
00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:52.640
<v Speaker 5>sees them. I thought that if I saw something and

511
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:56.079
<v Speaker 5>the person next to me to see it, to see

512
00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:57.599
<v Speaker 5>it too, because well, we saw it. It was all

513
00:28:57.680 --> 00:28:59.960
<v Speaker 5>four of us and we see it or the symbol

514
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:04.599
<v Speaker 5>this side. But it's like that all the time. We're

515
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:06.960
<v Speaker 5>learning with your show that that's not always the case.

516
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:10.160
<v Speaker 5>It's very it's very informative and you learn a lot

517
00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:10.759
<v Speaker 5>of this show.

518
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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. I mean, yeah, sometimes somebody can be in the

519
00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:16.960
<v Speaker 2>field with with a family member saying there could be

520
00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:20.920
<v Speaker 2>a UFO flyover. One will see it. One will either

521
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:23.920
<v Speaker 2>see it and acknowledge it, but don't care about it.

522
00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:27.039
<v Speaker 2>You know, we get that other times we can have

523
00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:31.359
<v Speaker 2>UFOs over highways where one person to see it and

524
00:29:31.440 --> 00:29:33.559
<v Speaker 2>then no one else would even batter an eyelids. So

525
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:36.880
<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's definitely unusual. Sometimes people see things some

526
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:40.400
<v Speaker 2>people whether they see it or not, or don't acknowledge it.

527
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:44.119
<v Speaker 2>Maybe yeah, right, but you both obviously have a bit

528
00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:46.480
<v Speaker 2>of a connection any case, so maybe you know, maybe

529
00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:49.200
<v Speaker 2>that's an indication to these symbols that you saw.

530
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<v Speaker 5>They were beautiful. It was so wonderful, wonderful experience. That's

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<v Speaker 5>my favorite one.

532
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's certainly interesting.

533
00:29:57.839 --> 00:29:58.119
<v Speaker 1>That one.

534
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<v Speaker 2>That's good.

535
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<v Speaker 1>I like that.

536
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<v Speaker 2>Well done guy, that was nice and easy.

537
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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, Nick, It really wasn't that bad. Thank you

538
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<v Speaker 5>for giving us the opportunity to share the experience.

539
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, certainly is interesting, and I enjoy having fresh accounts

540
00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:14.519
<v Speaker 2>that we haven't really had before because then you know,

541
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:18.319
<v Speaker 2>in turn, it brings out other people. Yes, hopefully have

542
00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:19.480
<v Speaker 2>you been listening for a while.

543
00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:23.359
<v Speaker 5>Our Friennie found the show and she sent it to me.

544
00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:25.960
<v Speaker 5>So when it was that like two months ago, about

545
00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:30.000
<v Speaker 5>two months ago ago, listen to it every every day.

546
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:38.160
<v Speaker 4>I want to hear that.

547
00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:41.839
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's the conversation of the weekends when we get

548
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<v Speaker 5>together a week and let me tell you what, listen, Nick,

549
00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:47.960
<v Speaker 5>it is just what we needed, just what we need

550
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:49.880
<v Speaker 5>it because all these years that you can you don't

551
00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:51.880
<v Speaker 5>know if you can, you know, if you can share

552
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<v Speaker 5>it with certain person.

553
00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:56.400
<v Speaker 6>You know, so many years experiencing these things, and you

554
00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:58.160
<v Speaker 6>can talk to everybody, and all of a sudden you

555
00:30:58.319 --> 00:31:02.799
<v Speaker 6>find this show that just hear people sharing their things

556
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:05.799
<v Speaker 6>and good, very thankful.

557
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:08.920
<v Speaker 2>That's why I started because there just wasn't anything out there,

558
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:11.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, there wasn't anything out there that was involving

559
00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:14.759
<v Speaker 2>just everyday people. It was always the same ones on

560
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:18.319
<v Speaker 2>the television and right, so you know, this was just

561
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:22.119
<v Speaker 2>a way of getting normal everyday people like like myself

562
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:25.200
<v Speaker 2>and you guys, you know, to share these and the

563
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:29.920
<v Speaker 2>emails I get are just endless, absolutely endless. Really absolutely please,

564
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<v Speaker 2>we want to thank.

565
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:31.359
<v Speaker 7>You so much.

566
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<v Speaker 5>You have no idea. Thank you so much for the show.

567
00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:38.119
<v Speaker 5>Thank you, thank you so much.

568
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm glad you guys enjoy it and a lot

569
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<v Speaker 2>of people, do you know, a lot a lot of

570
00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:45.559
<v Speaker 2>people will listen. They will come across the show, and

571
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.279
<v Speaker 2>they would just binge them. So they just listen to

572
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:51.079
<v Speaker 2>them every single day. I had a guy who was

573
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:53.920
<v Speaker 2>on a road trip across America and he listened to

574
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:59.000
<v Speaker 2>all the episodes and then he ran out midway through

575
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:06.160
<v Speaker 2>his trip, and then he just started again, started and

576
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:08.759
<v Speaker 2>carry it on. So so yeah, it's good. It's good

577
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:10.720
<v Speaker 2>that people enjoy, you know. I get tons of email

578
00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:13.160
<v Speaker 2>from from people just saying how much they enjoy it.

579
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:15.480
<v Speaker 2>So it's nice, you know, especially when you put as

580
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:18.599
<v Speaker 2>much effort into someone and people appreciate it. It's always

581
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<v Speaker 2>good to hear that.

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<v Speaker 5>Definitely, Please never, never ever stop everything. Please priceless. It

583
00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:25.519
<v Speaker 5>is priceless.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I won't. I won't stop until I stop receiving emails.

585
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:34.319
<v Speaker 2>Franny Mandy, I really appreciate you both for coming on

586
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:36.039
<v Speaker 2>today and sharing that for our listeners.

587
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:39.359
<v Speaker 5>Thank you for having us, Thank you for having us,

588
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:41.799
<v Speaker 5>and thank you for the show again so much. Thank

589
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:42.359
<v Speaker 5>you so much.

590
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:45.680
<v Speaker 2>You're more than welcome. Keep in contact, all right, keep

591
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:47.200
<v Speaker 2>listening and I will speech you soon.

592
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:50.079
<v Speaker 5>Thank you you too, Nick, you too, thank you.

593
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<v Speaker 2>Take care, speach you soon.

594
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<v Speaker 5>All right.

595
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<v Speaker 2>Bye bye now, I'm Richard Saratt.

596
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<v Speaker 8>Join me on Strange Planet for in depth conversations with

597
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:10.079
<v Speaker 8>the world's top paranormal investigators, alien abductees, big foot trackers,

598
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:15.079
<v Speaker 8>monster hunters, time travelers, alternative archaeologists, remote viewers, and more.

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<v Speaker 7>As I was on the way to Area fifty one,

600
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<v Speaker 7>I was stopping on the side of the road and

601
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<v Speaker 7>just taking measurements, and I found this one spot where

602
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<v Speaker 7>times slowed down by a fraction of a second. It's

603
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<v Speaker 7>not supposed to do that.

604
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<v Speaker 1>From the two big categories animal mutilations and human abductions,

605
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:36.759
<v Speaker 1>you have to conclude that genetic material is being harvested.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I reached for a rifle and I turned and looked,

607
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:42.559
<v Speaker 7>and it was already moving away, and it was descending

608
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<v Speaker 7>the bluff.

609
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<v Speaker 2>There's no way any human could have went down it.

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<v Speaker 7>It was probably a seventy five degree angle, straight down, almost.

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<v Speaker 8>On Richard Sarah's Strange Planet, We're redefining reality.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen now, wherever you get your podcasts, do not go

613
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<v Speaker 2>any further, turn around.

614
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<v Speaker 1>Go home.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Walter, welcome to the podcast.

616
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<v Speaker 1>Hello, thank you, thanks for having me, thank you.

617
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<v Speaker 2>For joining us today. And you're calling from New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>That's correct, Central New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 2>Wonderful now, Walter, you have free UFO science to share

620
00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:25.159
<v Speaker 2>from over the years. Would you like to start at

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning, please.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I would like to kind of save the best

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<v Speaker 1>for last, so it won't really be chronological, but I'll

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<v Speaker 1>start with when I was the youngest, which was being

625
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<v Speaker 1>about nineteen ninety five, maybe nineteen ninety four, I had

626
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<v Speaker 1>a friend across the street named Kevin, and you know,

627
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<v Speaker 1>we would do I was at the time fourteen thirteen

628
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<v Speaker 1>years old something around there, and we would do things

629
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<v Speaker 1>that you know kids will typically do on a Sunday

630
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<v Speaker 1>at that time, would play outside, play war, play army whatever.

631
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<v Speaker 1>That particular sunday in the fall of that year, we

632
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:09.360
<v Speaker 1>had his dad outside, my brother. We were playing American football,

633
00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:13.880
<v Speaker 1>like touch football, and it was an overcast day and

634
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:17.639
<v Speaker 1>we were looking toward the west and we were on

635
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:20.920
<v Speaker 1>like a small street, so we're looking towards the west

636
00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:23.840
<v Speaker 1>and we see what we all fought was like a

637
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:28.119
<v Speaker 1>mile lar balloon, like the silver, silvery ish kind of

638
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:32.280
<v Speaker 1>looking balloon flying I don't know, about twenty feet above

639
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:35.239
<v Speaker 1>treetop level, kind of floating toward us. And you know,

640
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:38.280
<v Speaker 1>we didn't take nothing of it. We kept our eye

641
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:41.639
<v Speaker 1>on it, and here comes floating, floating, and now we

642
00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:44.039
<v Speaker 1>were chisen, but there was an asault with us outside

643
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:49.199
<v Speaker 1>and as this object comes over ahead, we look up

644
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:52.480
<v Speaker 1>now straight up over our head, and we look up

645
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>and it's flat. Okay, Now it isn't like you know

646
00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:00.519
<v Speaker 1>where where air is blowing a paper bag around. It

647
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:05.280
<v Speaker 1>wasn't robbling or waving. It was solid, vertical. It was

648
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:08.840
<v Speaker 1>essentially I guess the disc he could say, vertically standing

649
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:13.800
<v Speaker 1>up and just floating across the sky from west to east.

650
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:17.079
<v Speaker 1>And even Kevin's dad was like, I.

651
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:17.880
<v Speaker 5>Don't know what that is?

652
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:19.559
<v Speaker 1>What is that we did? We kind of right like

653
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.960
<v Speaker 1>went into the backyard and it just continued on its path.

654
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:26.159
<v Speaker 1>And I mean even his dad said, I don't know

655
00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:28.880
<v Speaker 1>how that was staying in the air because it's not

656
00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:32.480
<v Speaker 1>a balloon. It wasn't inflated. There's no noise, in dead silence.

657
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:35.280
<v Speaker 1>It was about the size. It was about the size

658
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:37.639
<v Speaker 1>of him, maybe a little bigger, I don't know, foot

659
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:41.559
<v Speaker 1>foot and half at the largest, but it was close enough,

660
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:46.239
<v Speaker 1>like I said, three top level now to kind of

661
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:49.320
<v Speaker 1>tack onto that story, I mean, this is really strange.

662
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I had a friend of mine named Craig who we

663
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:57.760
<v Speaker 1>worked together years later in like the food industry, and

664
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:02.719
<v Speaker 1>he lived exactly west of me, across town. And one

665
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:06.599
<v Speaker 1>day we're talking and we're telling some stories and I

666
00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:10.559
<v Speaker 1>bring the story up and he pulls me aside. He goes, wal,

667
00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:13.840
<v Speaker 1>He goes, I saw that. He said. The date has

668
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:17.280
<v Speaker 1>to be right. He said it was somewhere around like

669
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:19.800
<v Speaker 1>what I said, And he said it was a Sunday.

670
00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:21.760
<v Speaker 1>He goes, I remember his overcast and he goes, well,

671
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:25.559
<v Speaker 1>I saw the same thing go over our neighborhood. And

672
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, unless the guy was lying to me, I

673
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:30.800
<v Speaker 1>mean he was a you know, he had no reason

674
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:34.880
<v Speaker 1>to lie. But that was that story. Moving on to

675
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:40.360
<v Speaker 1>the second story that happened to me. This is what

676
00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:41.719
<v Speaker 1>I was like. I said, I'm gonna say the best

677
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>of the last. The second thing was in about two

678
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:48.840
<v Speaker 1>thousand and thirteen. I was driving home from my parents' house,

679
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:52.639
<v Speaker 1>going to my house. So I was driving north down

680
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:56.960
<v Speaker 1>on a Garden State parkway, and it was nighttime. It

681
00:37:57.159 --> 00:38:01.039
<v Speaker 1>was I believe that spring or the beginning of summer.

682
00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Had the windows down. I was in my truck driving

683
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:07.199
<v Speaker 1>north around on a Garden New parkway and I look

684
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:14.599
<v Speaker 1>over and I see orange, three big orange Amber, I'll

685
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>call them lights in the sky enough to a point

686
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:20.519
<v Speaker 1>where it was so shocking to me that I actually

687
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:23.639
<v Speaker 1>pulled over on the parkway and I called my mother

688
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:27.320
<v Speaker 1>up and as a coller, I'm out of my truck.

689
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:32.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm standing and there's what looks like molten metal dripping

690
00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:35.400
<v Speaker 1>out of the lights and they were just kind of

691
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:39.119
<v Speaker 1>floating away. They were going from east to west. I

692
00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:41.960
<v Speaker 1>was facing north. New York is north of me. I need.

693
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:48.800
<v Speaker 1>These orange objects were floating west, dripping metal. It looked

694
00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:51.760
<v Speaker 1>like metal to me, like how iron when iron melted?

695
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>All of a sidens like an orange that was dripping.

696
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:57.679
<v Speaker 1>And it's funny because I do I've always been into

697
00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:00.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, UFOs and parallel val things like that. And

698
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I just recently listened to a story of this, almost

699
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:08.679
<v Speaker 1>the same exact account in India. I don't remember any

700
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:11.159
<v Speaker 1>details about it, but I remember the person saying that

701
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:14.480
<v Speaker 1>it was not it looked like a dripping molten metal

702
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:17.239
<v Speaker 1>coming out of the light. Now, I said, could it

703
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:21.840
<v Speaker 1>be the Chinese lantern? I had never seen one before,

704
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and I did look it up and they are illegal

705
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:28.039
<v Speaker 1>in New Jersey. And it was over like a swamp

706
00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:31.119
<v Speaker 1>Lowland area, there wasn't like home nearby or like a

707
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:34.239
<v Speaker 1>venue like a wedding venue or something there. Maybe someone

708
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:39.199
<v Speaker 1>do that. I actually contacted Muffan over that, and I

709
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:41.840
<v Speaker 1>had a feel of vest here contact me and I

710
00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:45.559
<v Speaker 1>told him the whole story, and then I told him

711
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:47.760
<v Speaker 1>a couple the story previous I just told you in

712
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:50.639
<v Speaker 1>the next one, I'm going to tell you. And he's

713
00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:53.159
<v Speaker 1>very interested. Took my account and said he'd be back

714
00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:55.320
<v Speaker 1>in touch at me. And it's a weird part about

715
00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:59.599
<v Speaker 1>that was after I spoke to this gentleman, I went

716
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:03.920
<v Speaker 1>to call back and his number was disconnected and he

717
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:05.840
<v Speaker 1>never called me back. I never heard from him again,

718
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:09.360
<v Speaker 1>So that was kind of odd. But yeah, no, that

719
00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:14.079
<v Speaker 1>was that was definitely strange an account enough to where

720
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:16.239
<v Speaker 1>I pulled over on a highway and I called my

721
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:18.679
<v Speaker 1>mom up. I did film it with a it was

722
00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:21.159
<v Speaker 1>like an iPhone maybe I don't know five or something

723
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I had at the time it came. It was it

724
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:27.360
<v Speaker 1>was unrecognizable in the video, was almost useless to record it.

725
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:32.960
<v Speaker 1>But so moving on to what I called my the best,

726
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess you could say it was the most the

727
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:38.840
<v Speaker 1>most interesting, well the most shocking really was in now

728
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:42.199
<v Speaker 1>this is going back to about ninety eight, ninety seven,

729
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:45.159
<v Speaker 1>ninety eight. I was seventeen. I had a friend of

730
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Steve who was eighteen. It was it was October November.

731
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:52.199
<v Speaker 1>It was cold out, it was dark, it was it

732
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:54.760
<v Speaker 1>was a school night. We used to kind of just

733
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:58.800
<v Speaker 1>drive around in his car, like you know, listen to music, folks, cigarettes,

734
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:01.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, no drugs, no drinking. That's you know, just

735
00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:05.440
<v Speaker 1>hanging out as a school night. And where I lived

736
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:08.440
<v Speaker 1>if Mama County, New Jersey, there's a beach called Leonardo Beach.

737
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:11.039
<v Speaker 1>And if you go to Leonardo Beach and you look north,

738
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:14.599
<v Speaker 1>you set the entire skyline in New York. You see

739
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:17.639
<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn to the right, Manhattan the rest of New Jersey

740
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:21.840
<v Speaker 1>to the left of your view. So facing north in

741
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:25.599
<v Speaker 1>that that's called rad and Bay in that day is

742
00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:30.440
<v Speaker 1>a long naval weapons station pier called Naval Weapons Stations

743
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Earl and but it's ammunition ships and cardinalships is essentially

744
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:39.480
<v Speaker 1>what that base deals with with That naval base deals with.

745
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:42.159
<v Speaker 1>And you know, it was just part of life there.

746
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:44.239
<v Speaker 1>You always knew the pier was. You called it the pier.

747
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:47.880
<v Speaker 1>The piers there sow lights on it and stuff ships

748
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:50.639
<v Speaker 1>out there and anyway, so we pull up to Leonaro Beach,

749
00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:53.920
<v Speaker 1>we'll get out of the car. We're just smoking a

750
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:57.199
<v Speaker 1>figurette talking, you know, just hanging out. And we did

751
00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:00.760
<v Speaker 1>this commonly. That's a common thing you did. And to

752
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:04.559
<v Speaker 1>our surprise, we look up and there is a grid

753
00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:10.239
<v Speaker 1>in the sky. I mean, I'm talking miles wide of

754
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:16.159
<v Speaker 1>a checker board pattern of like imagine a disco floor, okay,

755
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:20.159
<v Speaker 1>And the squares are perfect squares in this checker board

756
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:22.679
<v Speaker 1>pattern in the sky, but they're turning on and off

757
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:25.519
<v Speaker 1>at random, like once you know it's on and off

758
00:42:26.440 --> 00:42:29.679
<v Speaker 1>the game or something like that. Squares turning turning off

759
00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:33.880
<v Speaker 1>at random. And it's just this sharp, lightning blue color,

760
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:37.840
<v Speaker 1>like a blue white color, just almost a lightning color,

761
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:42.039
<v Speaker 1>flashing squares going off in the sky. I mean, gigantic.

762
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:45.400
<v Speaker 1>And the freaky part of it was, I mean, it

763
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:48.480
<v Speaker 1>sounds freaky as it is, but the real freaky part

764
00:42:48.519 --> 00:42:51.760
<v Speaker 1>of it was was that it was like the edges.

765
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:55.079
<v Speaker 1>And this is what I noted to myself. It was

766
00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:59.239
<v Speaker 1>perfect the edges. It wasn't like, oh, I believe it

767
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:02.280
<v Speaker 1>was overcast that night, because that's I believe it was

768
00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:05.000
<v Speaker 1>projected on clouds from what I remember, like an over

769
00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:09.920
<v Speaker 1>overcast guy. It was so perfect. It was shocking because

770
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:12.599
<v Speaker 1>there was no like, oh the edges are round it

771
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:16.599
<v Speaker 1>or skading off on the spot. It was like it

772
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:20.119
<v Speaker 1>was unbelievable. I didn't see anything projected from you know,

773
00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:22.199
<v Speaker 1>one thing. I thought it was like maybe came from

774
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:25.320
<v Speaker 1>the pier or or came from a ship. But I mean,

775
00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:29.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember seeing anything from the surface, and the

776
00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:31.199
<v Speaker 1>pier doesn't the pier doesn't like go out to the

777
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:33.480
<v Speaker 1>middle of the bay. It goes out far but not.

778
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're out of base huge. So me and

779
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:39.440
<v Speaker 1>me and Steed we looked at each other, and I

780
00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:41.679
<v Speaker 1>mean we were shocked. I was like, gett in the

781
00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:44.760
<v Speaker 1>car and uh. We jumped in his car and we

782
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:47.360
<v Speaker 1>flew to my parents' house, which is pretty close. I

783
00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:49.599
<v Speaker 1>ran in the house to tell mom, we're never gonna

784
00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:52.400
<v Speaker 1>believe this. I saw this grid pattern in the sky,

785
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:55.480
<v Speaker 1>and I mean, you know, she's she's opened mind and

786
00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:58.760
<v Speaker 1>she believed me. But it was it was the most

787
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:01.679
<v Speaker 1>incredible thing I've ever seen. I've never seen anything like this.

788
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I've never heard of anything. I wish somebody would, you know.

789
00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:08.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's millions of people that live around at

790
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:12.360
<v Speaker 1>in the perimeter of that bay, never heard a word

791
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:14.880
<v Speaker 1>about it, never heard an account about I've looked it

792
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:19.840
<v Speaker 1>up on the Momont Database database, looking up grid patterns

793
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:22.320
<v Speaker 1>and things like that, and I mean that that was it.

794
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:25.679
<v Speaker 1>You know, I've never told my story really before to

795
00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:27.280
<v Speaker 1>a couple of people. I just wanted to get it

796
00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:28.840
<v Speaker 1>out there. That's kind of all I got.

797
00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:31.239
<v Speaker 2>That's certainly a strange one. I mean, there's a lot

798
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:34.000
<v Speaker 2>of people around that bay. You'd think someone would have

799
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:34.840
<v Speaker 2>would have seen it.

800
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you would think so. I mean, have you personally

801
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:40.480
<v Speaker 1>have heard an account of any source like that.

802
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:44.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, the guy I've just done, actually he saw like

803
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:47.880
<v Speaker 2>a like a grid pattern of lights, but these weren't

804
00:44:48.599 --> 00:44:50.559
<v Speaker 2>didn't really give the I mean this was only in

805
00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:54.639
<v Speaker 2>September of this year. Yeah, it wasn't that far back.

806
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:56.599
<v Speaker 2>But then again, you know, I mean, if you got

807
00:44:56.639 --> 00:44:59.920
<v Speaker 2>the naval bases down there and they're always up to something,

808
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:01.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, they've always got some stuff going on.

809
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:05.599
<v Speaker 1>Sure, it was incredibly just it was just shocking. I

810
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:08.119
<v Speaker 1>remember I met it was just so it was so

811
00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:12.880
<v Speaker 1>big and so perfect and so bright. It was just

812
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:15.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean, to this day, I'm like did I really

813
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:17.599
<v Speaker 1>see that. I won't. I want to get in touch

814
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:19.239
<v Speaker 1>with the guy I was with at the time. We

815
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:21.320
<v Speaker 1>don't really talk anymore, but if I get in touch

816
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:21.920
<v Speaker 1>with him, I'd like to.

817
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:25.800
<v Speaker 2>And you said it was miles wide, miles life.

818
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:27.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean it took up your almost your whole vision

819
00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:28.679
<v Speaker 1>in the sky looking up.

820
00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:31.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean that was nineteen ninety eight.

821
00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:33.599
<v Speaker 1>Mind, yeah, but ninety seven, ninety eight.

822
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even if it was top secret stuff, you know,

823
00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:38.119
<v Speaker 2>we would have heard about that by now.

824
00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:42.880
<v Speaker 1>You would think. So, I don't know what, speculatively saying,

825
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:45.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that would get anyone, you know,

826
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:49.159
<v Speaker 1>a flashing grid pattern and projecting up, you know, like,

827
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:50.559
<v Speaker 1>what would the point of that be?

828
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean nineteen ninety eight. I mean we obviously

829
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:56.599
<v Speaker 2>we have spotlights and drones and grid patterns and all

830
00:45:56.639 --> 00:45:58.599
<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff now, but we didn't have that

831
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:02.320
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety eight, at least not in the public sector, right.

832
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:06.360
<v Speaker 1>And you didn't have the led lighting technology you have now,

833
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:09.039
<v Speaker 1>with the extreme bright lights that you can you know

834
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:11.519
<v Speaker 1>they manufacture now. I mean back then, you just like

835
00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:15.039
<v Speaker 1>the best thing you had on a you know, military

836
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:18.599
<v Speaker 1>or industrial levels, like magnesium, like the burn magnesium. You know,

837
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:20.960
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of the strongest thing they had. I would

838
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:21.920
<v Speaker 1>imagine at that point.

839
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:25.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, to our listeners, you know, if this sounds familiar

840
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<v Speaker 2>to you, maybe you know you're you're in an AAV

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<v Speaker 2>and you know something. This sounds very climit that something

842
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<v Speaker 2>was being tested back towards at the end of the

843
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<v Speaker 2>night is getting contact because it's a very unusual one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to hear. I'd love to hear someone knows

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. We've seen it before.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I said, there has to been someone that

847
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:46.719
<v Speaker 2>I've seen it, and did you You looked on the

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<v Speaker 2>databases and nothing's come up for that time.

849
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<v Speaker 1>I looked. I looked about four years ago. I did

850
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<v Speaker 1>some real digging and trying to find one thing related

851
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<v Speaker 1>to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's not it's not like in a very secluded area.

853
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is you know, I said this, there's

854
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<v Speaker 2>so many people around. This would have been seen.

855
00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:06.360
<v Speaker 1>The New Jersey is the most densely populated state in

856
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<v Speaker 1>the country. There's yeah, there's no extremely, it's really dense

857
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:15.679
<v Speaker 1>around that area. All around the best. It's dense towns

858
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:18.159
<v Speaker 1>and cities. I mean there's ships going there, there's people

859
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:21.239
<v Speaker 1>on ships, there's ferries going by, there's the cargo ships

860
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:23.559
<v Speaker 1>coming in and out. You know, never heard one word

861
00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:23.880
<v Speaker 1>about it.

862
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:25.800
<v Speaker 2>I did have a dream a couple of years ago,

863
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:29.000
<v Speaker 2>it might be about a year ago, and I dreamt

864
00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:32.079
<v Speaker 2>that the sky was filled with a gridpan but it

865
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<v Speaker 2>was like like a honeycomb grid pan.

866
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, okay, the grid was.

867
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.400
<v Speaker 2>In a blue, like a bluey white. Yeah, that was

868
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:41.119
<v Speaker 2>very strange.

869
00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:41.679
<v Speaker 1>Same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that's that's an unusual one. I don't have

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00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:46.360
<v Speaker 2>to make of that. Hopefully someoney get in contact.

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00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:48.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I would love to hear something. But yeah,

873
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<v Speaker 1>that's what we saw, and to this day, it's remained

874
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<v Speaker 1>a real mystery to me.

875
00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's the secretive project Bluebeam.

876
00:47:58.000 --> 00:47:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah maybe.

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00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:01.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Like I said to our listeners, you know, if

878
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<v Speaker 2>you're in the Navy and you know what this technology

879
00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:06.920
<v Speaker 2>or what it was used for getting contact, I'm sure

880
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:09.639
<v Speaker 2>Walter would like to like to hear at least something

881
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:13.760
<v Speaker 2>about it. Good stuff, good stuff water. Okay. These amber

882
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:16.239
<v Speaker 2>lights that you saw that were dripping, it's like this

883
00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:19.400
<v Speaker 2>molten lava. Yeah, now if it had been you know,

884
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:22.880
<v Speaker 2>I've seen Chinese lands, I've seen the big Chinese lanterns

885
00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:26.239
<v Speaker 2>and they do have obviously have candles in there which

886
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:29.239
<v Speaker 2>have burning wax, but you can't see it. You can't

887
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:30.719
<v Speaker 2>see it from from the ground.

888
00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah we're talking right, We're talking half a mile away,

889
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:38.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean three quarters a mile. I was maybe estimated

890
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:41.039
<v Speaker 1>something like that. I mean, it wasn't like, you know,

891
00:48:41.119 --> 00:48:43.000
<v Speaker 1>they were across the streets and I sort of wax

892
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:45.880
<v Speaker 1>coming out of them. I mean it looked like metal

893
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:47.920
<v Speaker 1>dripping out of a light for me exactly.

894
00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. You wouldn't. Yeah, you wouldn't see it if it

895
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<v Speaker 2>was the case. And obviously you're familiar with these in

896
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:54.519
<v Speaker 2>any case, you know, we have them. They go up

897
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:58.360
<v Speaker 2>every year and for birthdays and everything, constantly flying around, right.

898
00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:01.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, I haven't seen it anything like that, you

899
00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:03.280
<v Speaker 1>know before since personally, and.

900
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<v Speaker 2>That citing was enough for you to get on the

901
00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:07.239
<v Speaker 2>phone and call your mother.

902
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I got very excited about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a strange one. But you know, I again,

904
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<v Speaker 2>I've had guests that I've reported seeing this molten substance

905
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:21.519
<v Speaker 2>coming from from objects, and wow, I mean it's getting

906
00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:23.880
<v Speaker 2>to the point now where because I do so many recordings,

907
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<v Speaker 2>I hear a lot of very similar accounts. My guests

908
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:29.599
<v Speaker 2>don't know each other. Sure, so you know the you

909
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:33.159
<v Speaker 2>know something is being reported and have you always had

910
00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:34.719
<v Speaker 2>an interest in this subject.

911
00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Always, I mean since I was a kid. I mean

912
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:41.960
<v Speaker 1>watching fightings, watching X files, you know, whatever whatever was

913
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<v Speaker 1>on TV at the time. I'd watch that. I was

914
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:47.559
<v Speaker 1>a kid when the Phoenix flight thing happened, you know,

915
00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:49.840
<v Speaker 1>very interested in that. Every time I go to a

916
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:52.599
<v Speaker 1>library and school, I'd be going right for the you know,

917
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:56.119
<v Speaker 1>the the UFO books or the Sasquatch books or whatever.

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00:49:56.480 --> 00:49:56.639
<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>There was always a big interest in mine a man from.

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<v Speaker 2>My own heart of that siting show that was that

921
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<v Speaker 2>was good. They should bring that back.

922
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was not fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye often find when I was a kid, though, you know,

924
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:07.760
<v Speaker 2>you're head to the library and there's always a it

925
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<v Speaker 2>was always a very small section that they'd actually dedicated

926
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<v Speaker 2>to the subjects.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true. It was small, wasn't much of a selection.

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<v Speaker 2>That's wonderful. Word good staff. Interesting and hopefully we get

929
00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:21.440
<v Speaker 2>some in contact contact about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even it's just anonymous, like you know, someone from

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<v Speaker 2>the Navy. Yeah, it may happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was great, great talk with you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great having you on, wal the are okay, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel honored. I really do. I've listened to a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of episodes, so I feel feel very honored. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're more than welcome. Glad to finally get you on. Yeah, Walter,

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<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate you coming on sharing that for our listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, appreciate you the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you more than welcome. Take care and enjoy your

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<v Speaker 2>day off.

942
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thanks, thank you all.

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<v Speaker 2>Take care.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all for this week. Keep updated and connected with

946
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<v Speaker 2>a show on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. And if you

947
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<v Speaker 2>have an encounter that you'd like to share on the podcast,

948
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<v Speaker 2>you can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com,

949
00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:07.880
<v Speaker 2>or you can reach out to me via the contact

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00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:12.000
<v Speaker 2>page on my website UFO Chronicles podcast dot com. A

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<v Speaker 2>big thank you to Franny, Mandy and Walter for sharing tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>and thank you all for listening. I will back next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Till then, stay safe and keep watching us guys. Goodbye,

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<v Speaker 2>Mclude
