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Speaker 2: A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share
Speaker 2: their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had
Speaker 2: an encounter, I would like to be on the show.
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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. Wherever in the
Speaker 2: world you are listening from, I hope you are well
Speaker 2: and having a good week. I'm Nick Canter and this
Speaker 2: is the UFO Chronicles podcast. Starting off tonight is sisters
Speaker 2: Franni and Mandy calling from the state of Connecticut in
Speaker 2: the US share in three very interesting encounters. Then, staying
Speaker 2: on the East Coast, we speak with Walter in New
Speaker 2: Jersey about what he witnessed above Rueton Bay back in
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight. Franni and Mandy up next. If you
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Speaker 2: Franny and Mandy, Welcome to the show, nig Thank you
Speaker 2: both for joining us. Today and you're calling from Connecticut
Speaker 2: in the US. Yes, right, yes, we are wonderful. Are
Speaker 2: you getting hit with the snow at a minute?
Speaker 5: No, not yet, that's further up north, not over here yet,
Speaker 5: not so much.
Speaker 2: Oh that's good then, don't have to get your snow
Speaker 2: shows out just yet. Now you have two experiences to
Speaker 2: share over tonight. Would you like to start the beginning please?
Speaker 5: Well, yes, we'll start with the first one and and
Speaker 5: we'll share the other. Okay, So we're going back, like
Speaker 5: we grew up in Puerto Rico, So we're going back
Speaker 5: to the year nineteen eighty in Puerto Rico. We lived
Speaker 5: and when I say we, it was Mandy and I
Speaker 5: we were seven years old, and then our older sister,
Speaker 5: she was thirteen at the time, and our mom, she
Speaker 5: was a single mom. We lived in a high rise
Speaker 5: and we were on the ninth floor. Our apartment had
Speaker 5: a balcony and we could see pretty much like all
Speaker 5: the way up too. We were in some Juan, so
Speaker 5: we could see all the way up to where the
Speaker 5: sea was, like the Atlantic Ocean, so we could see
Speaker 5: all of that. It was a beautiful view. One night,
Speaker 5: I believe it was a school night, it could have.
Speaker 5: It must have been, because we were in bed like
Speaker 5: at a pretty good time in nineteen eighty and all
Speaker 5: of a sudden our mother. We hear our mother frantically
Speaker 5: calling all three of us out of our bedrooms. Come here,
Speaker 5: come here, come here, and she takes us to the
Speaker 5: balcony and right there in the horizon, just hovering above
Speaker 5: the city. And when I say city, you could see
Speaker 5: a lot of like that, all the high rises, you know,
Speaker 5: the skyline, and it was nighttime, so you could see
Speaker 5: like the lights forming the skyline, and there was this
Speaker 5: huge thing like the photo we send you.
Speaker 4: It was just like that.
Speaker 5: I cannot remember where I found that photo online, but
Speaker 5: it looked just like that, like the rectangular lights, one
Speaker 5: next to the other. I remember them in orange. Our
Speaker 5: older sister told me a few years ago that she
Speaker 5: remembers them yellowish, and mainly I don't know what color.
Speaker 5: I remember yellowish. So it was huge. It was like
Speaker 5: at least most have been like three football fields put
Speaker 5: together there just floating there. Just it wasn't whole. It
Speaker 5: was just there and then so we were able to
Speaker 5: take a good look. It wasn't like something that lasted
Speaker 5: a few seconds. It was we got a good We're
Speaker 5: there for a while, yes, looking at it, but then
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, it started kind of like retracting,
Speaker 5: like flying away, and then it was so fast it
Speaker 5: was like a supersonic kind of Yeah. It wasn't like, yeah,
Speaker 5: it's not like brand speed or like a space shuttle.
Speaker 5: It's like it's a speed that you cannot I can.
Speaker 5: We cannot explain it because it's like super like you
Speaker 5: see it, but it's like a blink of an eye
Speaker 5: gone until there was just a dot, like a light,
Speaker 5: a dot, and then it just disappeared. Yeah, just like
Speaker 5: a It's pretty cool. It was pretty cool. But then
Speaker 5: there's something else that we barely talk about, maybe because
Speaker 5: it was it's something that feels like a dream. We
Speaker 5: finally started talking about it, but we didn't talk about
Speaker 5: it for like years. We were thirteen Prota Rico stay
Speaker 5: all over there and we had bunk beds, so Frannie
Speaker 5: hat top bunk. I had the bottom the lower bunk.
Speaker 5: And one night I must have woken up. We must
Speaker 5: have been sleeping, Yeah, we woke up. I guess first
Speaker 5: I wake up and I book toward the head of
Speaker 5: my bunk and I see a pair of pants, like
Speaker 5: dark pants. It's like a dark figure, just just pants.
Speaker 5: I saw a hat because I was on the top bunk, right.
Speaker 5: But and we didn't add this to the email, Nick,
Speaker 5: because we just heard the episode about the episode somebody
Speaker 5: describes something like that, and we were we slid because
Speaker 5: somebody you were had in the show and the person
Speaker 5: was describing what we we now we know it has
Speaker 5: a name, right, I had man.
Speaker 1: But we just.
Speaker 5: Discovered this like after we send you the email and
Speaker 5: we reached out to you. We just realized this like
Speaker 5: like three days ago Tuesday. Yeah, just this past Tuesday,
Speaker 5: and me and Maybe was driving and she slammed on
Speaker 5: the brakes and she sent it to me. I was
Speaker 5: at work. I was like, no freaking way, this has
Speaker 5: a name, right, So that was yeah that. I mean
Speaker 5: all these years I thought it was like or something.
Speaker 5: Wait a minute, yeah, that it and other people see it,
Speaker 5: so now we know that thanks to your show. There's
Speaker 5: another one that's Yeah, it's only three experiences that we had,
Speaker 5: and they're very short, and we really are like not
Speaker 5: talking people, like we're very like short and sweet kind
Speaker 5: of sort of people. The one that really amazes us
Speaker 5: happened here in Connecticut. We've been here thirty one years,
Speaker 5: living here and black with the Bumpets. We've always shared
Speaker 5: a room when we were single, before we got married,
Speaker 5: we always shared a room. And we we were like,
Speaker 5: what twenty five five, this is our late nineteen nineties, Yeah,
Speaker 5: the late nineties, and again we were sharing the room
Speaker 5: and we had a big like one of those queen bets,
Speaker 5: and we had to share it again because we always
Speaker 5: had to share. And it was nighttime and we're both sleeping.
Speaker 5: Mandy's right next to me and something I'm just I'm
Speaker 5: waking up for no reason. I wake up and look
Speaker 5: up to the ceiling and right there on the ceiling
Speaker 5: floating quietly, and it's floating and it's peaceful floating. It's
Speaker 5: the best way I can explain it. There are these symbols.
Speaker 5: They're not letters, they're not numbers. They're glowing on their own.
Speaker 5: It's not a reflection, it's individually. They each glow and
Speaker 5: they're floating. Sometimes the one will be a little bit
Speaker 5: over the other one, but they're like just glowing all
Speaker 5: over the ceiling. When we say they're not letters or numbers,
Speaker 5: Mandy and I are history junkies. We have always been,
Speaker 5: and ever since we had that experience in the late nineties,
Speaker 5: we have search and search for something that resembles these symbols.
Speaker 5: We have been found this. So it's it's not letters
Speaker 5: that we know of. It's not we cannot explain it.
Speaker 3: It's not an alpha of it that we can say, Okay,
Speaker 3: oh this, No, we haven't found anything anything like it
Speaker 3: that resembles it, but we know it's just the best
Speaker 3: way we can describe it simple and.
Speaker 5: It's just nice and glowing. So I'm like, wait a minute,
Speaker 5: Mandy's next to me. So then I'm like, many, what
Speaker 5: was I doing? Was I was not Genie right? But
Speaker 5: you were also saying Mandy. So my back is toward
Speaker 5: friend Franny, and then I hear her saying she's not Jimmy,
Speaker 5: and then she says, Mendy, what's that? Now my back
Speaker 5: is to her. So when I hear Mandy, what's that,
Speaker 5: for some reason that I don't know, I don't look
Speaker 5: I don't look at her. I don't turn around and
Speaker 5: look at her to see what she's referring to. I
Speaker 5: know immediately I cannot explain why. I know immediately that
Speaker 5: I have to look up and I see the letters
Speaker 5: and it was it was so amazing, amazing, what is that?
Speaker 5: So then I just because I like, unfortunately at that moment,
Speaker 5: I like to sleep, so I said, I don't know,
Speaker 5: and I just went back to sleep. She turned around
Speaker 5: and went back to sleep. But you stayed up, and
Speaker 5: you saw, yeah, it was a little longer, Yeah, a
Speaker 5: little longer like that. It was. It was just they
Speaker 5: were beautiful. And now we looked back and we're like,
Speaker 5: why didn't we stay up? But then all we had
Speaker 5: to do was jump up, like stand up on the
Speaker 5: bed and try to touch the manu. All the windows
Speaker 5: were closed because we're paranoid. Our house was like a
Speaker 5: little bit isolated from the other houses on the street,
Speaker 5: so parent we were like, oh my god, we're like
Speaker 5: in the middle of nowhere, so to speak. So let's
Speaker 5: close everything. We don't want any creep looking at. So
Speaker 5: the blackout shades were down drawn like everything was covered.
Speaker 5: The door it was closed, like there's no way anything
Speaker 5: from the outside. They were just there floating and they
Speaker 5: were beautiful again. And so the next day I wake
Speaker 5: up and I start getting ready and I see that
Speaker 5: friend it's just sitting up in bed, just looking at me.
Speaker 5: I had no recollection. At this point, the memory is gone.
Speaker 5: Had she not asked me to this day, I still
Speaker 5: wouldn't remember. But then I see her sitting in bed
Speaker 5: looking at me in my every move and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 5: you know what's going on. I keep getting my clothes,
Speaker 5: and then she says, Mandy, what was that? And that
Speaker 5: at that moment everything came back floating, the floating, blowing.
Speaker 5: They turn around and I said, what's that? And then
Speaker 5: she goes, you saw them too, huh? I said, oh
Speaker 5: my god, yes, And then that at that moment we
Speaker 5: realized we had experienced something parallel, extthing extraorgy Harry beautiful
Speaker 5: and like it's just me. It was really wonderful. And
Speaker 5: I know the UFOs are like because people are getting
Speaker 5: to see them more now people can record them, so
Speaker 5: that's like the high, but I don't know humanly, but
Speaker 5: to me, it's like in my heart, it's more the
Speaker 5: glowing symbols. Yeah, we wanted to share this just because
Speaker 5: we've gone online to see if someone else has experienced
Speaker 5: it and we haven't found anything. So maybe if we
Speaker 5: share this, someone out there who has seen them too
Speaker 5: can say, Okay, other people see it, maybe give an
Speaker 5: idea of what it could be. We have no idea
Speaker 5: what it is, but yeah, that's all we got. That's
Speaker 5: all we got it.
Speaker 2: Good job, that was nice and easy. So these symbols,
Speaker 2: they say that your blinds were dying, your windows were closed,
Speaker 2: there was no reflection or anything coming through the window.
Speaker 5: Or the door or the door, and they were floating,
Speaker 5: you know when you reflect something like we had the
Speaker 5: technology these days like people do Christmas that you could
Speaker 5: see it from outside. The things floating on the outside.
Speaker 5: It's not like that. They were floating on top of it.
Speaker 5: It's hard to explain. And they were like made out
Speaker 5: of light. They were like yeah, each one had light,
Speaker 5: their own light and that would flow. Sometimes they would
Speaker 5: one would go behind the other and write and then
Speaker 5: the other one and then they would go. It's like
Speaker 5: floating like little slow dance of symbols. It was no
Speaker 5: ref it was no reflection. It was it was it's
Speaker 5: like kind of like the UFO that when you see it,
Speaker 5: you know it's not an airplane. You know, you know,
Speaker 5: you know you know what you've you seen, and you
Speaker 5: know it's not something that you see everything or even
Speaker 5: like a fiction movie did you just know you have
Speaker 5: to see them?
Speaker 2: It's hard.
Speaker 5: Like I tell my husband, he's like, no with on airplane. No,
Speaker 5: when you see it, you realize you're seeing something different.
Speaker 2: And these symbols, were they just singular symbols or were
Speaker 2: they in groups regular?
Speaker 5: But it was a big group a singular symbols.
Speaker 2: Yes, did they resemble letters at all?
Speaker 5: That's the thing, like, that's yeah, like when we talk
Speaker 5: amongst ourselves, we say the letters, the symbols, the numbers,
Speaker 5: the numbers, but they don't resemble they were not or
Speaker 5: any system that we've and we've gone back to our
Speaker 5: ancient Greek. We go back to searching ancient symbols, we
Speaker 5: say Asian. We're not talking all the Roman times. No,
Speaker 5: we're going back back back to when people like you
Speaker 5: see online and national geographic that people wrote and like Stone,
Speaker 5: we cannot find them.
Speaker 2: Have you looked at Enochian? What I'll do is I'll
Speaker 2: just I just send it to you.
Speaker 5: Okay, do you want us to look at it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, just take a look. See if they look these
Speaker 2: look familiar?
Speaker 5: Godness, no, that's not you know, I'm gonna say no,
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's all right? Would you be able to maybe draw
Speaker 2: any anything that you remember.
Speaker 5: So the closest one not exactly, but the closest one
Speaker 5: that we found, but closest not really that I can
Speaker 5: say that. We can say, oh yeah right, no, but
Speaker 5: it's like closest closest yeah yeah, if if I'm let
Speaker 5: me say, I can describe it. We've looked at the
Speaker 5: Hebrew alphabet on it looks very similar to the very
Speaker 5: first one. Also with the Greek alphabet. But we're talking
Speaker 5: like crazy, you resemble that, but it's not close.
Speaker 2: But it's not right because what you can do if
Speaker 2: you remember or maybe draw draw a cup for out.
Speaker 2: I've got a program where I can I can do
Speaker 2: a drawing of a symbol and it will tell me
Speaker 2: the closest to it if if it appears anywhere online.
Speaker 5: Okay, my goodness, Nick, thank you, thank you, Nick, thank
Speaker 5: you so much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so try try that because yeah, and that's that's
Speaker 2: definitely very unusual. I mean seeing symbols.
Speaker 5: Well, we would have to go back to Freddy's account
Speaker 5: because I went right back to sleep. Many went back
Speaker 5: to see because many lost sleeping. But I'm going to
Speaker 5: say five minutes, five minutes, and that's what bogs me
Speaker 5: because I could have easily, just Nick. All I had
Speaker 5: to do was stand on the bed, both of us,
Speaker 5: and we could have at least touched it to see
Speaker 5: what it was. But what was it to touch him?
Speaker 5: Because again, they were not reflected on the ceiling. They
Speaker 5: were floating. You could see that it was space. There
Speaker 5: was space between all of them, like space here and there,
Speaker 5: just floating. So we could have done that, We could
Speaker 5: have just tried to touch them, but we didn't. But
Speaker 5: they were beautiful. It's like such a beautiful, beautiful memory.
Speaker 5: And it's very interesting that when we talked about this
Speaker 5: years later that day, I don't I felt very happy.
Speaker 5: The rest of the thing. It was peaceful. It was peaceful,
Speaker 5: you know, it's it was I don't know if they
Speaker 5: left you with I felt some good goods. It was
Speaker 5: just peaceful. They're floating, like, yeah, just floating.
Speaker 2: And you weren't scared. You weren't scared this, not at.
Speaker 5: All at all, not at all, not one bit. Nope, No,
Speaker 5: it was it was very cool. It was very cool.
Speaker 2: M And in this in this house in particular, you
Speaker 2: hadn't had anything like that.
Speaker 5: No, No, that's the only one. What you mean if
Speaker 5: if we know of anything like that happening.
Speaker 2: Before, or anything that happened to you guys in the house.
Speaker 5: Oh no, just that that one experience, that one, okay, And.
Speaker 2: Did you tell your parents at the time, Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: our parents.
Speaker 5: Next day, we just anyone who would listen, We're told
Speaker 5: because there was amazing Nikki, you cannot it was amazing
Speaker 5: to see that floating all over your ceiling. It's beautiful.
Speaker 2: And what did your parents say?
Speaker 5: Well, our that is very Christian. I'm not saying we're not,
Speaker 5: but he said when we explained, and he said, well,
Speaker 5: the Holy Spirit was there with you guys. That's what
Speaker 5: he said. I know I same peace because he passed,
Speaker 5: but he at that moment he said it was the
Speaker 5: Holy Spirit. I don't remember what our mom said, but
Speaker 5: we did tell. We told them, our parents, our older sister,
Speaker 5: we told. We told all of them.
Speaker 2: Interesting, okay, yeah, so we put we put a call
Speaker 2: out there, anyone, anyone of our listeners out there, if
Speaker 2: you sing something similar to what Franny and Amandy has
Speaker 2: seen in the form of symbols, floating symbols and they
Speaker 2: were like a green color.
Speaker 5: Well I remember them green, like like slimy green I
Speaker 5: remember them a golden like a light of golden light, right,
Speaker 5: made out of golden light?
Speaker 2: I should right, Okay, so you remember its two different ways?
Speaker 5: Yes, but Mandy's color blind. I should have said that, Mandy. Yeah,
Speaker 5: sometimes I see colors different, right that we could be
Speaker 5: at a party and everyone's no, that's blue and she
Speaker 5: sees purple.
Speaker 2: Things like that, so okay, gotcha, all right, Yes, that
Speaker 2: that might be the reason.
Speaker 5: Why.
Speaker 2: So if there's any of our listeners out there which
Speaker 2: have experienced anything very similar to what these ladies have,
Speaker 2: let us know, would be interested. Definitely. Yeah, if you
Speaker 2: can maybe do a drawer in the best, you know,
Speaker 2: the best you can of what you do, remember, we will,
Speaker 2: we will, we will. And yeah, we'll see if we
Speaker 2: can track track them down and or we just we'll
Speaker 2: put them on the internet and see if anyone recognizes
Speaker 2: those symbols.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: Nick, no problem. And yeah, so your encounter with the hat.
Speaker 5: Man, we didn't even know it.
Speaker 1: We didn't know.
Speaker 5: This is crazy. Yeah, and this is why we're so
Speaker 5: glad that we bump into your show, because we are
Speaker 5: able not to put a name to that experience is
Speaker 5: that one experience, right, that one experience we left behind,
Speaker 5: not like the symbols that were even the UFO, Yeah,
Speaker 5: that we were very clear that we saw that. But
Speaker 5: the hat man we just two days ago. Two days ago,
Speaker 5: we were like, what that's why that has a name
Speaker 5: and people see it all over the world, Like we
Speaker 5: had no clue what. We had no clue that was
Speaker 5: a thing at all. But then we said, why don't
Speaker 5: we show it? Since we had the day today with
Speaker 5: you to be on the show, we said, well, why
Speaker 5: don't we just at that one? But that it was strange.
Speaker 5: I don't even remember the pants. It wasn't settling. That
Speaker 5: experience was like, was not a guy in the room
Speaker 5: And we're like, what was that? It wasn't that wasn't
Speaker 5: like the letters that it was priceful. That one was like,
Speaker 5: there's someone in the room, let me go. I just
Speaker 5: standing there. Yeah he was just standing then because it's
Speaker 5: a tall figure. I saw the top and Mandy saw
Speaker 5: the bottom. But he's just standing. There's not doing anything else,
Speaker 5: just theand and it's the weirdest thing.
Speaker 2: And this was in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 5: This was in Puerto Rico. Yeah, this was yeah, eighty
Speaker 5: seven eighty six, eighty.
Speaker 2: Seven, So yeah, he definitely does get seen all over.
Speaker 2: Do you remember that the type of hat he was
Speaker 2: wearing were Yeah, I was.
Speaker 5: Asking Franny fran She remembers the hat, but she doesn't
Speaker 5: remember the specific like what kind of hat? You know
Speaker 5: how some people since two days ago that we heard
Speaker 5: your show and we knew it was a thing. Some
Speaker 5: people say this kind of hat or that kind of hat.
Speaker 5: I just remember a hat. It could be a hat
Speaker 5: from those people in the forties, in the nineteen forties
Speaker 5: or I honestly, I wish I could be more specific,
Speaker 5: but I really can't. I saw he had something on
Speaker 5: his head, so I really I associated it with a hat.
Speaker 2: And you couldn't see a thing or anything.
Speaker 5: No, No, it's just like a shadow. It was dark,
Speaker 5: just so dark and right, and the room is pitch black.
Speaker 5: So we're just if you can believe that, like a
Speaker 5: room pitch black, and then you can see this bigger there.
Speaker 5: It's the best way we can.
Speaker 2: Plain it, of course. And Mandy only got the pants.
Speaker 5: I got the pants. Yeah, I saw the pants and
Speaker 5: I said, what, there's someone there, And I just think,
Speaker 5: you know, thirteen years old, you think that you can
Speaker 5: just if you turn over, it's going to disappear.
Speaker 1: And that's what I did.
Speaker 5: I turn over, said okay, turning over. She turned over
Speaker 5: with the tymbles too. Yeah, I do too, she does
Speaker 5: that compromiser sleep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the same when in D turnover under the
Speaker 2: covers and.
Speaker 5: Go back to sleep, it'll go away, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I mean I've had several people for
Speaker 2: the strange shadowy figure wearing various different hats and yeah,
Speaker 2: he's recorded literally all over the world.
Speaker 5: So weird, it's weird. Yeah, but we're glad that we
Speaker 5: can put a name to it, right right, well, you know,
Speaker 5: as good a name as you can keep something like
Speaker 5: oh my god name We were we were like, we
Speaker 5: were like what today say? This is crazy? So we said, oh,
Speaker 5: now that we're going to talk to me, maybe the
Speaker 5: glowing symbols some people have seen them too, and maybe
Speaker 5: they could put a name to it or whatever. Maybe
Speaker 5: now they can come forward and share.
Speaker 2: It to exactly right right exactly yeah, hopefully, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't think this is going to be an isolated incident.
Speaker 2: Hopeful that would be interesting to find out where they
Speaker 2: originate from, right, yes, right, did you grow up in
Speaker 2: a particular religious family.
Speaker 5: Our peons were divorced and our father was Christians, Christian believer,
Speaker 5: taught us about the Bible, taught us, you know, do
Speaker 5: the right thing, you know, everything about Jesus teaching and
Speaker 5: loving and forgiving and all that. Our mom was not
Speaker 5: that religious. Not that she wasn't. She does believe, you know,
Speaker 5: there's a higher power and that you know, you guys
Speaker 5: should pray and all that, but to sit down and
Speaker 5: talk to us about like Jesus teachings and the Bible's
Speaker 5: teachings like our d she was not like that. So
Speaker 5: we kind of like we took a little bit from here,
Speaker 5: a little bit from there, and then.
Speaker 2: Exactly take the good bits right right. Wonderful, Okay, and
Speaker 2: now your UFO. You saw.
Speaker 5: It was huge, huge because it was over over the sea,
Speaker 5: over the sea, over the city, like over all the
Speaker 5: buildings we're talking like like a city. If you see,
Speaker 5: if you go on Google Earth and go over like
Speaker 5: the saone the metro area someone by the coastline, you
Speaker 5: could see these are high rises. They're not like, you know,
Speaker 5: one hundred story buildings, but they're easily twenty thirty stories high.
Speaker 5: So yeah, if that thing was gonna land from where
Speaker 5: it was. I say, it was like three football fields
Speaker 5: easily easily huge clear clear clear, nick like clear, there's
Speaker 5: no that that was not that was no plane, that
Speaker 5: was no. But back in the eighties, you couldn't talk
Speaker 5: about these things, right, You couldn't no super taboo, super tablo,
Speaker 5: you could not mention. It's like now you're telling millennial
Speaker 5: I saw UFO and they said, oh yeah, I saw
Speaker 5: one too when I was in Thailand. I took a picture.
Speaker 5: I took a picture here. But back then, oh no, no.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, you're absolutely right down there that you know,
Speaker 2: they're no stranger to UFO activity as soon these experiences
Speaker 2: go back a long way on the island. And you
Speaker 2: said it was like a huge oval shape.
Speaker 5: Mm hm yes. We found a picture one, yeah, and
Speaker 5: that's it looked exactly exactly like that one, like the one.
Speaker 2: We sent you on the email, and with the with
Speaker 2: the lights and everything. The lights would grow.
Speaker 5: Every the whole the whole thing everything. And I like
Speaker 5: the picture and that's why we send it to you
Speaker 5: because you could see a city on the bottom like
Speaker 5: of the picture. You could see lights of like buildings.
Speaker 5: So that's exactly what we saw.
Speaker 2: I mean some and that big. You know, it would
Speaker 2: have been definitely seen by multiple people around the city, right,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 5: Right, yes, And all four of us saw it, all
Speaker 5: four of us. It's not like Mandy sow it or
Speaker 5: our sister saw it or our mon. It was all
Speaker 5: four of us on the balcony at the same time,
Speaker 5: at the same time, just seeing this thing, just like
Speaker 5: what what in the world? You know, it's something different,
Speaker 5: you know. And then the way it took off, Yes,
Speaker 5: the speed right like supersonic. There has to be a
Speaker 5: name for that type of speed that you know, we're
Speaker 5: not scientists, but there has to be a.
Speaker 1: Name for that.
Speaker 5: The way it feed left and then it was like
Speaker 5: a star and then it would.
Speaker 2: Both gone And did it shoot off straight up?
Speaker 5: You know, it wasn't It wasn't like up. It was
Speaker 5: more like a way back away, backing away and not
Speaker 5: going up. It was more like back in a way,
Speaker 5: but no way towards the going back right to the horizon, right.
Speaker 2: Okay, So it was away away from you, Yes, just.
Speaker 5: Like that if you could call that moving, because it
Speaker 5: was literally like the speed was unbelievable, Like the way
Speaker 5: then it's like a star we're gonna call it like
Speaker 5: a star and then the star disappears.
Speaker 2: H okay.
Speaker 5: And that was in nineteen eighty, nineteen eighty, nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 2: We definitely looked that up to see and that was
Speaker 2: over the main city. Yes, one m I mean something
Speaker 2: so big. I mean it has to have been seen
Speaker 2: by it.
Speaker 5: Happened to so you would think. But then we've heard
Speaker 5: also on the show on this on your show, that
Speaker 5: some people see things and the person next to them
Speaker 5: does not see them. So how that's something I learned
Speaker 5: with this show, Nick that I didn't know that sometimes
Speaker 5: people see part normal things or UFOs and not everybody
Speaker 5: sees them. I thought that if I saw something and
Speaker 5: the person next to me to see it, to see
Speaker 5: it too, because well, we saw it. It was all
Speaker 5: four of us and we see it or the symbol
Speaker 5: this side. But it's like that all the time. We're
Speaker 5: learning with your show that that's not always the case.
Speaker 5: It's very it's very informative and you learn a lot
Speaker 5: of this show.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean, yeah, sometimes somebody can be in the
Speaker 2: field with with a family member saying there could be
Speaker 2: a UFO flyover. One will see it. One will either
Speaker 2: see it and acknowledge it, but don't care about it.
Speaker 2: You know, we get that other times we can have
Speaker 2: UFOs over highways where one person to see it and
Speaker 2: then no one else would even batter an eyelids. So
Speaker 2: it's it's it's definitely unusual. Sometimes people see things some
Speaker 2: people whether they see it or not, or don't acknowledge it.
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, right, but you both obviously have a bit
Speaker 2: of a connection any case, so maybe you know, maybe
Speaker 2: that's an indication to these symbols that you saw.
Speaker 5: They were beautiful. It was so wonderful, wonderful experience. That's
Speaker 5: my favorite one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's certainly interesting.
Speaker 1: That one.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: Well done guy, that was nice and easy.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Nick, It really wasn't that bad. Thank you
Speaker 5: for giving us the opportunity to share the experience.
Speaker 2: Yes, certainly is interesting, and I enjoy having fresh accounts
Speaker 2: that we haven't really had before because then you know,
Speaker 2: in turn, it brings out other people. Yes, hopefully have
Speaker 2: you been listening for a while.
Speaker 5: Our Friennie found the show and she sent it to me.
Speaker 5: So when it was that like two months ago, about
Speaker 5: two months ago ago, listen to it every every day.
Speaker 4: I want to hear that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the conversation of the weekends when we get
Speaker 5: together a week and let me tell you what, listen, Nick,
Speaker 5: it is just what we needed, just what we need
Speaker 5: it because all these years that you can you don't
Speaker 5: know if you can, you know, if you can share
Speaker 5: it with certain person.
Speaker 6: You know, so many years experiencing these things, and you
Speaker 6: can talk to everybody, and all of a sudden you
Speaker 6: find this show that just hear people sharing their things
Speaker 6: and good, very thankful.
Speaker 2: That's why I started because there just wasn't anything out there,
Speaker 2: you know, there wasn't anything out there that was involving
Speaker 2: just everyday people. It was always the same ones on
Speaker 2: the television and right, so you know, this was just
Speaker 2: a way of getting normal everyday people like like myself
Speaker 2: and you guys, you know, to share these and the
Speaker 2: emails I get are just endless, absolutely endless. Really absolutely please,
Speaker 2: we want to thank.
Speaker 7: You so much.
Speaker 5: You have no idea. Thank you so much for the show.
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you guys enjoy it and a lot
Speaker 2: of people, do you know, a lot a lot of
Speaker 2: people will listen. They will come across the show, and
Speaker 2: they would just binge them. So they just listen to
Speaker 2: them every single day. I had a guy who was
Speaker 2: on a road trip across America and he listened to
Speaker 2: all the episodes and then he ran out midway through
Speaker 2: his trip, and then he just started again, started and
Speaker 2: carry it on. So so yeah, it's good. It's good
Speaker 2: that people enjoy, you know. I get tons of email
Speaker 2: from from people just saying how much they enjoy it.
Speaker 2: So it's nice, you know, especially when you put as
Speaker 2: much effort into someone and people appreciate it. It's always
Speaker 2: good to hear that.
Speaker 5: Definitely, Please never, never ever stop everything. Please priceless. It
Speaker 5: is priceless.
Speaker 2: Well I won't. I won't stop until I stop receiving emails.
Speaker 2: Franny Mandy, I really appreciate you both for coming on
Speaker 2: today and sharing that for our listeners.
Speaker 5: Thank you for having us, Thank you for having us,
Speaker 5: and thank you for the show again so much. Thank
Speaker 5: you so much.
Speaker 2: You're more than welcome. Keep in contact, all right, keep
Speaker 2: listening and I will speech you soon.
Speaker 5: Thank you you too, Nick, you too, thank you.
Speaker 2: Take care, speach you soon.
Speaker 5: All right.
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Speaker 2: Hello, Walter, welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 1: Hello, thank you, thanks for having me, thank you.
Speaker 2: For joining us today. And you're calling from New Jersey.
Speaker 1: That's correct, Central New Jersey.
Speaker 2: Wonderful now, Walter, you have free UFO science to share
Speaker 2: from over the years. Would you like to start at
Speaker 2: the beginning, please.
Speaker 1: Yes, I would like to kind of save the best
Speaker 1: for last, so it won't really be chronological, but I'll
Speaker 1: start with when I was the youngest, which was being
Speaker 1: about nineteen ninety five, maybe nineteen ninety four, I had
Speaker 1: a friend across the street named Kevin, and you know,
Speaker 1: we would do I was at the time fourteen thirteen
Speaker 1: years old something around there, and we would do things
Speaker 1: that you know kids will typically do on a Sunday
Speaker 1: at that time, would play outside, play war, play army whatever.
Speaker 1: That particular sunday in the fall of that year, we
Speaker 1: had his dad outside, my brother. We were playing American football,
Speaker 1: like touch football, and it was an overcast day and
Speaker 1: we were looking toward the west and we were on
Speaker 1: like a small street, so we're looking towards the west
Speaker 1: and we see what we all fought was like a
Speaker 1: mile lar balloon, like the silver, silvery ish kind of
Speaker 1: looking balloon flying I don't know, about twenty feet above
Speaker 1: treetop level, kind of floating toward us. And you know,
Speaker 1: we didn't take nothing of it. We kept our eye
Speaker 1: on it, and here comes floating, floating, and now we
Speaker 1: were chisen, but there was an asault with us outside
Speaker 1: and as this object comes over ahead, we look up
Speaker 1: now straight up over our head, and we look up
Speaker 1: and it's flat. Okay, Now it isn't like you know
Speaker 1: where where air is blowing a paper bag around. It
Speaker 1: wasn't robbling or waving. It was solid, vertical. It was
Speaker 1: essentially I guess the disc he could say, vertically standing
Speaker 1: up and just floating across the sky from west to east.
Speaker 1: And even Kevin's dad was like, I.
Speaker 5: Don't know what that is?
Speaker 1: What is that we did? We kind of right like
Speaker 1: went into the backyard and it just continued on its path.
Speaker 1: And I mean even his dad said, I don't know
Speaker 1: how that was staying in the air because it's not
Speaker 1: a balloon. It wasn't inflated. There's no noise, in dead silence.
Speaker 1: It was about the size. It was about the size
Speaker 1: of him, maybe a little bigger, I don't know, foot
Speaker 1: foot and half at the largest, but it was close enough,
Speaker 1: like I said, three top level now to kind of
Speaker 1: tack onto that story, I mean, this is really strange.
Speaker 1: I had a friend of mine named Craig who we
Speaker 1: worked together years later in like the food industry, and
Speaker 1: he lived exactly west of me, across town. And one
Speaker 1: day we're talking and we're telling some stories and I
Speaker 1: bring the story up and he pulls me aside. He goes, wal,
Speaker 1: He goes, I saw that. He said. The date has
Speaker 1: to be right. He said it was somewhere around like
Speaker 1: what I said, And he said it was a Sunday.
Speaker 1: He goes, I remember his overcast and he goes, well,
Speaker 1: I saw the same thing go over our neighborhood. And
Speaker 1: I mean, unless the guy was lying to me, I
Speaker 1: mean he was a you know, he had no reason
Speaker 1: to lie. But that was that story. Moving on to
Speaker 1: the second story that happened to me. This is what
Speaker 1: I was like. I said, I'm gonna say the best
Speaker 1: of the last. The second thing was in about two
Speaker 1: thousand and thirteen. I was driving home from my parents' house,
Speaker 1: going to my house. So I was driving north down
Speaker 1: on a Garden State parkway, and it was nighttime. It
Speaker 1: was I believe that spring or the beginning of summer.
Speaker 1: Had the windows down. I was in my truck driving
Speaker 1: north around on a Garden New parkway and I look
Speaker 1: over and I see orange, three big orange Amber, I'll
Speaker 1: call them lights in the sky enough to a point
Speaker 1: where it was so shocking to me that I actually
Speaker 1: pulled over on the parkway and I called my mother
Speaker 1: up and as a coller, I'm out of my truck.
Speaker 1: I'm standing and there's what looks like molten metal dripping
Speaker 1: out of the lights and they were just kind of
Speaker 1: floating away. They were going from east to west. I
Speaker 1: was facing north. New York is north of me. I need.
Speaker 1: These orange objects were floating west, dripping metal. It looked
Speaker 1: like metal to me, like how iron when iron melted?
Speaker 1: All of a sidens like an orange that was dripping.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because I do I've always been into
Speaker 1: you know, UFOs and parallel val things like that. And
Speaker 1: I just recently listened to a story of this, almost
Speaker 1: the same exact account in India. I don't remember any
Speaker 1: details about it, but I remember the person saying that
Speaker 1: it was not it looked like a dripping molten metal
Speaker 1: coming out of the light. Now, I said, could it
Speaker 1: be the Chinese lantern? I had never seen one before,
Speaker 1: and I did look it up and they are illegal
Speaker 1: in New Jersey. And it was over like a swamp
Speaker 1: Lowland area, there wasn't like home nearby or like a
Speaker 1: venue like a wedding venue or something there. Maybe someone
Speaker 1: do that. I actually contacted Muffan over that, and I
Speaker 1: had a feel of vest here contact me and I
Speaker 1: told him the whole story, and then I told him
Speaker 1: a couple the story previous I just told you in
Speaker 1: the next one, I'm going to tell you. And he's
Speaker 1: very interested. Took my account and said he'd be back
Speaker 1: in touch at me. And it's a weird part about
Speaker 1: that was after I spoke to this gentleman, I went
Speaker 1: to call back and his number was disconnected and he
Speaker 1: never called me back. I never heard from him again,
Speaker 1: So that was kind of odd. But yeah, no, that
Speaker 1: was that was definitely strange an account enough to where
Speaker 1: I pulled over on a highway and I called my
Speaker 1: mom up. I did film it with a it was
Speaker 1: like an iPhone maybe I don't know five or something
Speaker 1: I had at the time it came. It was it
Speaker 1: was unrecognizable in the video, was almost useless to record it.
Speaker 1: But so moving on to what I called my the best,
Speaker 1: I guess you could say it was the most the
Speaker 1: most interesting, well the most shocking really was in now
Speaker 1: this is going back to about ninety eight, ninety seven,
Speaker 1: ninety eight. I was seventeen. I had a friend of
Speaker 1: Steve who was eighteen. It was it was October November.
Speaker 1: It was cold out, it was dark, it was it
Speaker 1: was a school night. We used to kind of just
Speaker 1: drive around in his car, like you know, listen to music, folks, cigarettes,
Speaker 1: you know, no drugs, no drinking. That's you know, just
Speaker 1: hanging out as a school night. And where I lived
Speaker 1: if Mama County, New Jersey, there's a beach called Leonardo Beach.
Speaker 1: And if you go to Leonardo Beach and you look north,
Speaker 1: you set the entire skyline in New York. You see
Speaker 1: Brooklyn to the right, Manhattan the rest of New Jersey
Speaker 1: to the left of your view. So facing north in
Speaker 1: that that's called rad and Bay in that day is
Speaker 1: a long naval weapons station pier called Naval Weapons Stations
Speaker 1: Earl and but it's ammunition ships and cardinalships is essentially
Speaker 1: what that base deals with with That naval base deals with.
Speaker 1: And you know, it was just part of life there.
Speaker 1: You always knew the pier was. You called it the pier.
Speaker 1: The piers there sow lights on it and stuff ships
Speaker 1: out there and anyway, so we pull up to Leonaro Beach,
Speaker 1: we'll get out of the car. We're just smoking a
Speaker 1: figurette talking, you know, just hanging out. And we did
Speaker 1: this commonly. That's a common thing you did. And to
Speaker 1: our surprise, we look up and there is a grid
Speaker 1: in the sky. I mean, I'm talking miles wide of
Speaker 1: a checker board pattern of like imagine a disco floor, okay,
Speaker 1: And the squares are perfect squares in this checker board
Speaker 1: pattern in the sky, but they're turning on and off
Speaker 1: at random, like once you know it's on and off
Speaker 1: the game or something like that. Squares turning turning off
Speaker 1: at random. And it's just this sharp, lightning blue color,
Speaker 1: like a blue white color, just almost a lightning color,
Speaker 1: flashing squares going off in the sky. I mean, gigantic.
Speaker 1: And the freaky part of it was, I mean, it
Speaker 1: sounds freaky as it is, but the real freaky part
Speaker 1: of it was was that it was like the edges.
Speaker 1: And this is what I noted to myself. It was
Speaker 1: perfect the edges. It wasn't like, oh, I believe it
Speaker 1: was overcast that night, because that's I believe it was
Speaker 1: projected on clouds from what I remember, like an over
Speaker 1: overcast guy. It was so perfect. It was shocking because
Speaker 1: there was no like, oh the edges are round it
Speaker 1: or skading off on the spot. It was like it
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. I didn't see anything projected from you know,
Speaker 1: one thing. I thought it was like maybe came from
Speaker 1: the pier or or came from a ship. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't remember seeing anything from the surface, and the
Speaker 1: pier doesn't the pier doesn't like go out to the
Speaker 1: middle of the bay. It goes out far but not.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're out of base huge. So me and
Speaker 1: me and Steed we looked at each other, and I
Speaker 1: mean we were shocked. I was like, gett in the
Speaker 1: car and uh. We jumped in his car and we
Speaker 1: flew to my parents' house, which is pretty close. I
Speaker 1: ran in the house to tell mom, we're never gonna
Speaker 1: believe this. I saw this grid pattern in the sky,
Speaker 1: and I mean, you know, she's she's opened mind and
Speaker 1: she believed me. But it was it was the most
Speaker 1: incredible thing I've ever seen. I've never seen anything like this.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of anything. I wish somebody would, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's millions of people that live around at
Speaker 1: in the perimeter of that bay, never heard a word
Speaker 1: about it, never heard an account about I've looked it
Speaker 1: up on the Momont Database database, looking up grid patterns
Speaker 1: and things like that, and I mean that that was it.
Speaker 1: You know, I've never told my story really before to
Speaker 1: a couple of people. I just wanted to get it
Speaker 1: out there. That's kind of all I got.
Speaker 2: That's certainly a strange one. I mean, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of people around that bay. You'd think someone would have
Speaker 2: would have seen it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you would think so. I mean, have you personally
Speaker 1: have heard an account of any source like that.
Speaker 2: Well, the guy I've just done, actually he saw like
Speaker 2: a like a grid pattern of lights, but these weren't
Speaker 2: didn't really give the I mean this was only in
Speaker 2: September of this year. Yeah, it wasn't that far back.
Speaker 2: But then again, you know, I mean, if you got
Speaker 2: the naval bases down there and they're always up to something,
Speaker 2: you know, they've always got some stuff going on.
Speaker 1: Sure, it was incredibly just it was just shocking. I
Speaker 1: remember I met it was just so it was so
Speaker 1: big and so perfect and so bright. It was just
Speaker 1: I mean, to this day, I'm like did I really
Speaker 1: see that. I won't. I want to get in touch
Speaker 1: with the guy I was with at the time. We
Speaker 1: don't really talk anymore, but if I get in touch
Speaker 1: with him, I'd like to.
Speaker 2: And you said it was miles wide, miles life.
Speaker 1: I mean it took up your almost your whole vision
Speaker 1: in the sky looking up.
Speaker 2: I mean that was nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 1: Mind, yeah, but ninety seven, ninety eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even if it was top secret stuff, you know,
Speaker 2: we would have heard about that by now.
Speaker 1: You would think. So, I don't know what, speculatively saying,
Speaker 1: I don't know what that would get anyone, you know,
Speaker 1: a flashing grid pattern and projecting up, you know, like,
Speaker 1: what would the point of that be?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean nineteen ninety eight. I mean we obviously
Speaker 2: we have spotlights and drones and grid patterns and all
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff now, but we didn't have that
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety eight, at least not in the public sector, right.
Speaker 1: And you didn't have the led lighting technology you have now,
Speaker 1: with the extreme bright lights that you can you know
Speaker 1: they manufacture now. I mean back then, you just like
Speaker 1: the best thing you had on a you know, military
Speaker 1: or industrial levels, like magnesium, like the burn magnesium. You know,
Speaker 1: that's kind of the strongest thing they had. I would
Speaker 1: imagine at that point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to our listeners, you know, if this sounds familiar
Speaker 2: to you, maybe you know you're you're in an AAV
Speaker 2: and you know something. This sounds very climit that something
Speaker 2: was being tested back towards at the end of the
Speaker 2: night is getting contact because it's a very unusual one.
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear. I'd love to hear someone knows
Speaker 1: what it is. We've seen it before.
Speaker 2: I mean I said, there has to been someone that
Speaker 2: I've seen it, and did you You looked on the
Speaker 2: databases and nothing's come up for that time.
Speaker 1: I looked. I looked about four years ago. I did
Speaker 1: some real digging and trying to find one thing related
Speaker 1: to it.
Speaker 2: Because it's not it's not like in a very secluded area.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is you know, I said this, there's
Speaker 2: so many people around. This would have been seen.
Speaker 1: The New Jersey is the most densely populated state in
Speaker 1: the country. There's yeah, there's no extremely, it's really dense
Speaker 1: around that area. All around the best. It's dense towns
Speaker 1: and cities. I mean there's ships going there, there's people
Speaker 1: on ships, there's ferries going by, there's the cargo ships
Speaker 1: coming in and out. You know, never heard one word
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: I did have a dream a couple of years ago,
Speaker 2: it might be about a year ago, and I dreamt
Speaker 2: that the sky was filled with a gridpan but it
Speaker 2: was like like a honeycomb grid pan.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, the grid was.
Speaker 2: In a blue, like a bluey white. Yeah, that was
Speaker 2: very strange.
Speaker 1: Same thing.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's that's an unusual one. I don't have
Speaker 2: to make of that. Hopefully someoney get in contact.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would love to hear something. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what we saw, and to this day, it's remained
Speaker 1: a real mystery to me.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's the secretive project Bluebeam.
Speaker 1: Yeah maybe.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Like I said to our listeners, you know, if
Speaker 2: you're in the Navy and you know what this technology
Speaker 2: or what it was used for getting contact, I'm sure
Speaker 2: Walter would like to like to hear at least something
Speaker 2: about it. Good stuff, good stuff water. Okay. These amber
Speaker 2: lights that you saw that were dripping, it's like this
Speaker 2: molten lava. Yeah, now if it had been you know,
Speaker 2: I've seen Chinese lands, I've seen the big Chinese lanterns
Speaker 2: and they do have obviously have candles in there which
Speaker 2: have burning wax, but you can't see it. You can't
Speaker 2: see it from from the ground.
Speaker 1: Yeah we're talking right, We're talking half a mile away,
Speaker 1: I mean three quarters a mile. I was maybe estimated
Speaker 1: something like that. I mean, it wasn't like, you know,
Speaker 1: they were across the streets and I sort of wax
Speaker 1: coming out of them. I mean it looked like metal
Speaker 1: dripping out of a light for me exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You wouldn't. Yeah, you wouldn't see it if it
Speaker 2: was the case. And obviously you're familiar with these in
Speaker 2: any case, you know, we have them. They go up
Speaker 2: every year and for birthdays and everything, constantly flying around, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I haven't seen it anything like that, you
Speaker 1: know before since personally, and.
Speaker 2: That citing was enough for you to get on the
Speaker 2: phone and call your mother.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I got very excited about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a strange one. But you know, I again,
Speaker 2: I've had guests that I've reported seeing this molten substance
Speaker 2: coming from from objects, and wow, I mean it's getting
Speaker 2: to the point now where because I do so many recordings,
Speaker 2: I hear a lot of very similar accounts. My guests
Speaker 2: don't know each other. Sure, so you know the you
Speaker 2: know something is being reported and have you always had
Speaker 2: an interest in this subject.
Speaker 1: Always, I mean since I was a kid. I mean
Speaker 1: watching fightings, watching X files, you know, whatever whatever was
Speaker 1: on TV at the time. I'd watch that. I was
Speaker 1: a kid when the Phoenix flight thing happened, you know,
Speaker 1: very interested in that. Every time I go to a
Speaker 1: library and school, I'd be going right for the you know,
Speaker 1: the the UFO books or the Sasquatch books or whatever.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: There was always a big interest in mine a man from.
Speaker 2: My own heart of that siting show that was that
Speaker 2: was good. They should bring that back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was not fun.
Speaker 2: Ye often find when I was a kid, though, you know,
Speaker 2: you're head to the library and there's always a it
Speaker 2: was always a very small section that they'd actually dedicated
Speaker 2: to the subjects.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. It was small, wasn't much of a selection.
Speaker 2: That's wonderful. Word good staff. Interesting and hopefully we get
Speaker 2: some in contact contact about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even it's just anonymous, like you know, someone from
Speaker 2: the Navy. Yeah, it may happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was great, great talk with you.
Speaker 2: It's great having you on, wal the are okay, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel honored. I really do. I've listened to a
Speaker 1: lot of episodes, so I feel feel very honored. Thank you.
Speaker 2: You're more than welcome. Glad to finally get you on. Yeah, Walter,
Speaker 2: I really appreciate you coming on sharing that for our listeners.
Speaker 1: All right, appreciate you the same.
Speaker 2: Thank you more than welcome. Take care and enjoy your
Speaker 2: day off.
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks, thank you all.
Speaker 2: Take care.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: That's all for this week. Keep updated and connected with
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Speaker 2: have an encounter that you'd like to share on the podcast,
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Speaker 2: big thank you to Franny, Mandy and Walter for sharing tonight,
Speaker 2: and thank you all for listening. I will back next week.
Speaker 2: Till then, stay safe and keep watching us guys. Goodbye,
Speaker 2: Mclude