Speaker 1: Seven one here for the five ker City talk station.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the Rainzach coming up the next segment
Speaker 1: with Donovan and Neil American from Americans for Prosperity the meantime.
Speaker 1: Over to the phones, and I'm going to start with Eric. Eric,
Speaker 1: welcome to the show. It's good to have you on
Speaker 1: this morning.
Speaker 2: Good morning. How are you today?
Speaker 1: I am doing well. I understand you have an interesting
Speaker 1: backstory on our conversation this morning about the Nazis rallying
Speaker 1: and even.
Speaker 2: There, Well, interesting is a good way to put that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Christopher Smitheman mentioned you are friends with Christopher, is
Speaker 1: my understanding, and he brought you up. He didn't mention
Speaker 1: your name, I don't think, at least specifically, but mention
Speaker 1: you during his Spleen event on Monday here in the
Speaker 1: morning show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I missed that Monday. I was trying
Speaker 2: to get a little bit of rest. But I listened
Speaker 2: to that often and you as well.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that much. Eric, Go ahead and go ahead
Speaker 1: tell my listeners all about it.
Speaker 2: So you know, basically, I was coming from a client lunch.
Speaker 2: My office is over there in TechView Office Center right
Speaker 2: off of seventy five, and I was coming from a
Speaker 2: client lunch and I came over I seventy five, and
Speaker 2: as I approached the overpass, of course I see armed
Speaker 2: Nazis with masks and swastikas. And as I approached, they
Speaker 2: had a bullhorn shouting the inward, go home. And they
Speaker 2: proceeded to They came out into the street from the
Speaker 2: sidewalk over to my driver's side window, within a few
Speaker 2: inches of me while they're standing in the middle of
Speaker 2: the road, and shouted the inward and told me get
Speaker 2: out of America. And I pulled my firearm. Of course, uh,
Speaker 2: And I probably practiced a little more restraint than I
Speaker 2: should have. But of course you don't want.
Speaker 1: To hurt someone, you know, and you don't want to
Speaker 1: induce them to perhaps use deadly force because they then
Speaker 1: fear for their own life because you have a firearm
Speaker 1: aimed at them. This is where we end up into
Speaker 1: the very delicate situation that none of us want to
Speaker 1: be involved with. You know, it's one thing to have
Speaker 1: a firearm and you can pull it out and perhaps
Speaker 1: lay it on your lap, just demonstrating that you have
Speaker 1: it and you're willing to use it to defend your life.
Speaker 1: But when you go to point it at someone, then
Speaker 1: if they've got one, then they may very well pull
Speaker 1: it out and then argue that they were justified in
Speaker 1: using deadly force because they believed you were going to
Speaker 1: use deadly force.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right, and that's why I did not. I
Speaker 2: never pointed at at them. You never even turned my
Speaker 2: head toward them.
Speaker 1: Excellent.
Speaker 2: I think that's what made them upset, was because wouldn't they?
Speaker 2: Would they? When I didn't look at them and I
Speaker 2: blasted my music. The police officer actually came up to
Speaker 2: my window and said, sir, you need to turn your
Speaker 2: music down. And I said, are they still yelling? And
Speaker 2: he said yeah, And I said, well, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to turn it down, right. I could have
Speaker 2: said something else, put in different words, but I didn't.
Speaker 2: And then another officer came down, sod we turned my
Speaker 2: music down, and I told him no, because the street
Speaker 2: was blocked. I couldn't run. There was a red light,
Speaker 2: but I couldn't run it right, I couldn't even go through. So,
Speaker 2: you know, I just want people to know that this
Speaker 2: is not a situation where I'm saying I want to
Speaker 2: violate somebody's right to free speech or I want to
Speaker 2: go against I mean, I had disagreed with what they think.
Speaker 2: I realized in America you're allowed to think what you think,
Speaker 2: but you're not allowed to come out onto the road
Speaker 2: in the middle of the street, which you're gun shouting
Speaker 2: the in word while the police watch.
Speaker 1: All right, and there you go. See now that that
Speaker 1: may support I think it was Alisha Reese's comment about
Speaker 1: giving tickets out because arguable, and I'm sure some police
Speaker 1: officer knows the the traffic laws better than I do.
Speaker 1: Of course they do. But then if you go out
Speaker 1: into the street and you interrupt traffic or block traffic,
Speaker 1: that may be a ticketable offense. So maybe that was
Speaker 1: a situation where they could have issued a citation for
Speaker 1: the idiot Nazis.
Speaker 2: But brother, you are I mean, how do you There's
Speaker 2: no cross up there. They're standing on a double yellow
Speaker 2: line on a state overpass with the police behind them,
Speaker 2: in the sheriff in front of them, and they're doing
Speaker 2: this to me man, And I'm thinking, at what point
Speaker 2: are these guys gonna protect me? At what point I'm thinking, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm a sensible guy. I'm on my way to my office.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, Okay, this is gonna end. Really, they're gonna,
Speaker 2: they're gonna, they're they're gonna it was they took too long.
Speaker 2: They took too long, and I try to understand that's
Speaker 2: a hard job. I support law enforcement, but you know,
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have to endure someone. No one that could
Speaker 2: have been my.
Speaker 1: Daughter, your daughter, I understand. I hear you out loud,
Speaker 1: and I guess my point is, it has been widely reported.
Speaker 1: You were there, so you actually saw it, and you're
Speaker 1: filling in a lot of the details that many of
Speaker 1: us don't even have. But it was been widely reported
Speaker 1: that they were standing on the sidewalk and screaming their
Speaker 1: Nazis screams and making idiots out of themselves, which is
Speaker 1: all protected constitution protected speech and activities. But the minute
Speaker 1: they get out into the road and start impeding traffic
Speaker 1: and creating a hazard, then that may be a ticketable offense,
Speaker 1: and perhaps the police should have done that, you know,
Speaker 1: But thank you for filling in the blanks, Eric, And
Speaker 1: you know what, I got to applaud you for your
Speaker 1: amazing exercise of restraint.
Speaker 2: I don't want anyone to hurt me. I don't want
Speaker 2: to hurt anyone. I just want to take care of
Speaker 2: my family, live my life, protect myself. Well, I don't.
Speaker 1: Want that, Amen, Amen, I'm with you. Listen that one
Speaker 1: time that guy tried to kill me on the express
Speaker 1: when came to and I had my handgun out. I
Speaker 1: had it at my side because I thought he was
Speaker 1: going to just beat the living crap out of me.
Speaker 1: But he walked away. And I've always said that was
Speaker 1: the best part of the day. Terrible day for me.
Speaker 1: I was fearful of my life. I didn't have to
Speaker 1: shoot somebody. That's the last thing you want to have
Speaker 1: to do. Thank amen. I thank god many times that
Speaker 1: I didn't have to shoot that guy because if he
Speaker 1: was in my face after all of that on the expressway,
Speaker 1: trust me, I was prepared to use deadly force. Good job, Eric,
Speaker 1: Thank you again for calling man. It's it's wonderful to
Speaker 1: have first hand account and real details. And again I
Speaker 1: applaud your exercise and restraint. Whish we could talk around.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, Amen, I appreciate you a seven twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Any friend of Christopher Smithman is a friend of mine
Speaker 1: from my perspective. Seven twenty eight fifty five cares that
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