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<v Speaker 1>Seven one here for the five ker City talk station.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about the Rainzach coming up the next segment

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<v Speaker 1>with Donovan and Neil American from Americans for Prosperity the meantime.

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<v Speaker 1>Over to the phones, and I'm going to start with Eric. Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the show. It's good to have you on

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<v Speaker 1>this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning. How are you today?

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<v Speaker 1>I am doing well. I understand you have an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>backstory on our conversation this morning about the Nazis rallying

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<v Speaker 1>and even.

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<v Speaker 2>There, Well, interesting is a good way to put that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Christopher Smitheman mentioned you are friends with Christopher, is

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<v Speaker 1>my understanding, and he brought you up. He didn't mention

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<v Speaker 1>your name, I don't think, at least specifically, but mention

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<v Speaker 1>you during his Spleen event on Monday here in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I missed that Monday. I was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get a little bit of rest. But I listened

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<v Speaker 2>to that often and you as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that much. Eric, Go ahead and go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>tell my listeners all about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, basically, I was coming from a client lunch.

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<v Speaker 2>My office is over there in TechView Office Center right

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<v Speaker 2>off of seventy five, and I was coming from a

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<v Speaker 2>client lunch and I came over I seventy five, and

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<v Speaker 2>as I approached the overpass, of course I see armed

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<v Speaker 2>Nazis with masks and swastikas. And as I approached, they

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<v Speaker 2>had a bullhorn shouting the inward, go home. And they

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<v Speaker 2>proceeded to They came out into the street from the

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<v Speaker 2>sidewalk over to my driver's side window, within a few

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<v Speaker 2>inches of me while they're standing in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the road, and shouted the inward and told me get

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<v Speaker 2>out of America. And I pulled my firearm. Of course, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>And I probably practiced a little more restraint than I

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<v Speaker 2>should have. But of course you don't want.

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<v Speaker 1>To hurt someone, you know, and you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>induce them to perhaps use deadly force because they then

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<v Speaker 1>fear for their own life because you have a firearm

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<v Speaker 1>aimed at them. This is where we end up into

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<v Speaker 1>the very delicate situation that none of us want to

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<v Speaker 1>be involved with. You know, it's one thing to have

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<v Speaker 1>a firearm and you can pull it out and perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>lay it on your lap, just demonstrating that you have

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<v Speaker 1>it and you're willing to use it to defend your life.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you go to point it at someone, then

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<v Speaker 1>if they've got one, then they may very well pull

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<v Speaker 1>it out and then argue that they were justified in

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<v Speaker 1>using deadly force because they believed you were going to

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<v Speaker 1>use deadly force.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right, and that's why I did not. I

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<v Speaker 2>never pointed at at them. You never even turned my

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<v Speaker 2>head toward them.

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<v Speaker 1>Excellent.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what made them upset, was because wouldn't they?

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<v Speaker 2>Would they? When I didn't look at them and I

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<v Speaker 2>blasted my music. The police officer actually came up to

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<v Speaker 2>my window and said, sir, you need to turn your

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<v Speaker 2>music down. And I said, are they still yelling? And

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<v Speaker 2>he said yeah, And I said, well, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to turn it down, right. I could have

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<v Speaker 2>said something else, put in different words, but I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>And then another officer came down, sod we turned my

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<v Speaker 2>music down, and I told him no, because the street

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<v Speaker 2>was blocked. I couldn't run. There was a red light,

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<v Speaker 2>but I couldn't run it right, I couldn't even go through. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I just want people to know that this

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<v Speaker 2>is not a situation where I'm saying I want to

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<v Speaker 2>violate somebody's right to free speech or I want to

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<v Speaker 2>go against I mean, I had disagreed with what they think.

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<v Speaker 2>I realized in America you're allowed to think what you think,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're not allowed to come out onto the road

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the street, which you're gun shouting

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<v Speaker 2>the in word while the police watch.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, and there you go. See now that that

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<v Speaker 1>may support I think it was Alisha Reese's comment about

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<v Speaker 1>giving tickets out because arguable, and I'm sure some police

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<v Speaker 1>officer knows the the traffic laws better than I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course they do. But then if you go out

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<v Speaker 1>into the street and you interrupt traffic or block traffic,

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<v Speaker 1>that may be a ticketable offense. So maybe that was

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<v Speaker 1>a situation where they could have issued a citation for

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<v Speaker 1>the idiot Nazis.

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<v Speaker 2>But brother, you are I mean, how do you There's

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<v Speaker 2>no cross up there. They're standing on a double yellow

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<v Speaker 2>line on a state overpass with the police behind them,

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<v Speaker 2>in the sheriff in front of them, and they're doing

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<v Speaker 2>this to me man, And I'm thinking, at what point

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<v Speaker 2>are these guys gonna protect me? At what point I'm thinking, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a sensible guy. I'm on my way to my office.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, Okay, this is gonna end. Really, they're gonna,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna, they're they're gonna it was they took too long.

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<v Speaker 2>They took too long, and I try to understand that's

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<v Speaker 2>a hard job. I support law enforcement, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't have to endure someone. No one that could

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<v Speaker 2>have been my.

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<v Speaker 1>Daughter, your daughter, I understand. I hear you out loud,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess my point is, it has been widely reported.

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<v Speaker 1>You were there, so you actually saw it, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>filling in a lot of the details that many of

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<v Speaker 1>us don't even have. But it was been widely reported

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<v Speaker 1>that they were standing on the sidewalk and screaming their

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<v Speaker 1>Nazis screams and making idiots out of themselves, which is

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<v Speaker 1>all protected constitution protected speech and activities. But the minute

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<v Speaker 1>they get out into the road and start impeding traffic

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<v Speaker 1>and creating a hazard, then that may be a ticketable offense,

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<v Speaker 1>and perhaps the police should have done that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>But thank you for filling in the blanks, Eric, And

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I got to applaud you for your

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<v Speaker 1>amazing exercise of restraint.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want anyone to hurt me. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to hurt anyone. I just want to take care of

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<v Speaker 2>my family, live my life, protect myself. Well, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Want that, Amen, Amen, I'm with you. Listen that one

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<v Speaker 1>time that guy tried to kill me on the express

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<v Speaker 1>when came to and I had my handgun out. I

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<v Speaker 1>had it at my side because I thought he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to just beat the living crap out of me.

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<v Speaker 1>But he walked away. And I've always said that was

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<v Speaker 1>the best part of the day. Terrible day for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was fearful of my life. I didn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>shoot somebody. That's the last thing you want to have

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Thank amen. I thank god many times that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have to shoot that guy because if he

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<v Speaker 1>was in my face after all of that on the expressway,

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<v Speaker 1>trust me, I was prepared to use deadly force. Good job, Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you again for calling man. It's it's wonderful to

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<v Speaker 1>have first hand account and real details. And again I

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<v Speaker 1>applaud your exercise and restraint. Whish we could talk around.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you, Amen, I appreciate you a seven twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Any friend of Christopher Smithman is a friend of mine

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<v Speaker 1>from my perspective. Seven twenty eight fifty five cares that

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<v Speaker 1>he talk