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<v Speaker 1>Today, I want to tell you about a journey that

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<v Speaker 2>Open up to anot a.

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<v Speaker 1>Sor there's something in the woods, anato to you what

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<v Speaker 1>you're about to see.

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<v Speaker 3>You?

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<v Speaker 1>Or something in.

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<v Speaker 2>The woods knocking a parn Changeerry the Ooman said, don't

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<v Speaker 2>go outside.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something in the woods tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>I hear rim knocking, shaking bushits footprints howling on my lung.

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<v Speaker 2>Open up to anat a sea, something in the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everyone, and welcome to another installment of Wednesday Wisdom,

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<v Speaker 1>where we go deep down the rabbit hole and become

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<v Speaker 1>immersed in the world of sasquatch research, explore fascinating articles,

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<v Speaker 1>and share a little nugget of wisdom along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether you're a seasoned researcher, a curious skeptic, or someone

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<v Speaker 1>who just loves a good mystery, this is the place

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<v Speaker 1>for insightful discussions on all things bigfoot. Today we're taking

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<v Speaker 1>a deep dive into an intriguing study that sheds new

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<v Speaker 1>light on the social dynamics of bigfoot encounters. Before we

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<v Speaker 1>get into it, I want to acknowledge the fascinating work

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<v Speaker 1>of Jamie Lewis and Andrew Bartlett Their article, first published

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<v Speaker 1>online on August fifth, twenty twenty four, in Cultural Sociology,

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<v Speaker 1>explores how bigfoot sightings are framed, validated, and shared within

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<v Speaker 1>different communities. Their research goes beyond just what people claim

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<v Speaker 1>to see. It examines how those encounters are communicated and

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<v Speaker 1>how belief is shaped by storytelling, group dynamics, and cultural influences.

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<v Speaker 1>So what does this mean for the world of Sasquatch research?

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<v Speaker 1>How do these social patterns influence the way we perceive

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<v Speaker 1>encounters and evidence. Let's break it down and explore their

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<v Speaker 1>findings together. Bigfoot exists, maybe not as a living, breathing creature,

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<v Speaker 1>but certainly as a powerful cultural force. Whether you believe

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<v Speaker 1>in the legendary Sasquatch or not, the idea of bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>is something almost everyone recognizes. Some people even dedicate their

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<v Speaker 1>lives to searching for proof of its existence. These dedicated individuals,

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<v Speaker 1>known as bigfooters, scour the wilderness for evidence footprints, hair samples,

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<v Speaker 1>recordings of strange calls, and, most compellingly, witness testimonies. Many

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<v Speaker 1>bigfooters started their journey after a personal encounter, a moment

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<v Speaker 1>that convinced them there was something out there worth investigating

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<v Speaker 1>For decades, organized efforts have been collecting and categorizing these encounters.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization BFRO hosts thousands of reports

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<v Speaker 1>from individuals who claim to have come face to face

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<v Speaker 1>with the creature, and while some might dismiss these stories

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<v Speaker 1>as imagination or hoaxes, for the people involved, these encounters

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<v Speaker 1>are very real. This story is part of a broader

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<v Speaker 1>project examining the bigfooting community, a network of people committed

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<v Speaker 1>to proving the existence of Bigfoot. Our research involved one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and six twenty six in depth interviews with individuals

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<v Speaker 1>who have encountered Bigfoot, studied the phenomenon, or been part

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<v Speaker 1>of the search.

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<v Speaker 2>Through their stories, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Explore how they build and challenge knowledge, and how they

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<v Speaker 1>navigate the tricky landscape of belief, skepticism, and science. These

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<v Speaker 1>encounters create a space an absence where the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot takes shape. But when making a claim about something

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<v Speaker 1>so extraordinary, credibility is everything. In a field filled with

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<v Speaker 1>skepticism and hoaxes, Bigfooters must present themselves as serious and rational,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than gullible or delusional. Bigfoot holds a unique place

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<v Speaker 1>in the American imagination, standing alongside ghosts, aliens, and other

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<v Speaker 1>unexplained phenomena. While science generally dismisses its existence, a significant

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<v Speaker 1>portion of Americans about one in five, believe in Bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 1>Even those who don't believe know what Bigfoot looks like

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<v Speaker 1>and how it behaves. Time Bigfoot has transformed from a

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<v Speaker 1>campfire legend into an enduring cultural icon. The fascination with

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<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot is fueled by modern media, from pulp fiction and.

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<v Speaker 2>B movies to TV shows like The X Files.

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<v Speaker 1>And Finding Bigfoot. The idea of an undiscovered creature lurking

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<v Speaker 1>in the wilderness continues to capture public interest. Some researchers

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<v Speaker 1>suggest that during times of political and social uncertainty, interest

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<v Speaker 1>in the paranormal increases. But even among believers, there's an

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<v Speaker 1>understanding that not all Bigfoot claims are legitimate. Hoaxes are

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<v Speaker 1>a known issue, and many bigfooters work hard to separate

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<v Speaker 1>fact from fiction. Bigfooting groups like the BFRO, the Olympic Project,

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<v Speaker 1>and the North American Wood Ape Conservancy in a WAC

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<v Speaker 1>follow certain standards in their search. However, like any community

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<v Speaker 1>of researchers, they have their disagreements. One major division is

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<v Speaker 1>between the apers who believe bigfoot is an undiscovered primate.

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<v Speaker 1>Those who think it has paranormal abilities, such as cloaking

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<v Speaker 1>or interdimensional travel. The apors who dominate groups like the

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<v Speaker 1>BFRO align themselves with primatologists like Jane goodall striving to

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<v Speaker 1>maintain a scientific approach. While some bigfooters see their work

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<v Speaker 1>as serious research, the wider world often views cryptozoology as

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<v Speaker 1>part of the entertainment industry. Still, even skeptics recognize the

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<v Speaker 1>familiar structure of bigfoot encounter stories, sudden sightings, eerie sounds,

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<v Speaker 1>massive footprints. To believers, the consistency of these reports strengthens

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<v Speaker 1>their case. To skeptics, it's evidence of people unknowingly repeating

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<v Speaker 1>familiar myths. One interviewee expressed frustration with this skepticism, saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't get it until you're in this stuff. But

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<v Speaker 1>for many, their initiation into bigfooting began with a personal

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<v Speaker 1>experience and unexplained sighting that changed their view of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>A bigfoot encounter isn't just a moment. It's a story,

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<v Speaker 1>a narrative that takes shape as it's told and retold.

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<v Speaker 1>Storytelling is a deeply human experience, a way to share

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge and beliefs The stories of Bigfoot stretch back far

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<v Speaker 1>beyond modern pop culture, rooted in indigenous traditions across North America.

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<v Speaker 1>The name Sasquatch comes from the Coast Salish language and

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<v Speaker 1>was popularized in the nineteen twenties. The term bigfoot emerged

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<v Speaker 1>later after a nineteen fifty eight newspaper article about massive

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<v Speaker 1>footprints found at a construction site in California. Since then,

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<v Speaker 1>the legend has only grown. One of the most famous

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<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot encounters occurred in nineteen sixty seven, when Roger Patterson

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<v Speaker 1>and Bob Gimlin filmed a figure striding through a dry

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<v Speaker 1>creek bed in northern California. The resulting footage, known as

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<v Speaker 1>the Patterson Gimlin Film, remains one of the most analyzed

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<v Speaker 1>and debated pieces of evidence in Bigfoot history. Whether real

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<v Speaker 1>or hoax, it cemented Bigfoot's place in popular culture. The

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<v Speaker 1>rise of the Internet transformed the way Bigfoot stories are shared.

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<v Speaker 1>In the nineteen nineties, the BFRO launched a website where

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<v Speaker 1>people could submit their encounters, dramatically increasing the accessibility of

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<v Speaker 1>these reports. Today, their database includes thousands of sightings from

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<v Speaker 1>across North America, particularly from states like Washington, California.

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<v Speaker 1>The BFRO also organizes expeditions where participants search for evidence

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<v Speaker 1>under the guidance of experienced researchers. Bigfoot research depends on

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<v Speaker 1>eyewitness accounts, but it also faces two major challenges misidentifications

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<v Speaker 1>and hoaxes. Many encounters can be explained as misinterpretations of

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<v Speaker 1>natural events, an animal moving through the woods, an unusual

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<v Speaker 1>noise at night. Meanwhile, hoaxes have plagued the field for years,

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<v Speaker 1>making it difficult to separate genuine reports from deliberate fabrications.

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<v Speaker 1>To counteract this, the BFRO has developed a filtering process

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<v Speaker 1>for reports. As founder Matt Moneymaker explains, they weed out

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<v Speaker 1>unreliable claims by looking for patterns, requiring detailed write ups,

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<v Speaker 1>and prioritizing reports with multiple witnesses. Their goal is to

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<v Speaker 1>sift through the noise and find the most credible accounts.

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<v Speaker 1>Moneymaker himself has played a key role in keeping Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>in the public eye. In twenty eleven, he began hosting

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<v Speaker 1>Finding Bigfoot, a television show that reignited interest in the legend.

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<v Speaker 1>This media exposure led to a surge and reported encounters,

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<v Speaker 1>both recent and historical. According to researchers. It also reduced

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<v Speaker 1>the stigma around discussing bigfoot experiences. Our research takes bigfooting seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>not just as a search for a creature, but as

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<v Speaker 1>a fascinating example of how communities build and evaluate knowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>Bigfooters are deeply committed to their pursuit, despite mainstream science

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<v Speaker 1>dismissing their work. This project aimed to understand what drives

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<v Speaker 1>them and how they navigate a field that sits between science, folklore,

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<v Speaker 1>and entertainment. We conducted one hundred and sixty six interviews

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<v Speaker 1>with bigfooters, including active field researchers, documentary producers, museum curators,

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<v Speaker 1>and cryptozoologists. These conversations revealed a central theme absence bigfooter's

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<v Speaker 1>work to make sense of the lack of clear evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you prove the existence of something that always

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<v Speaker 1>seems just out of reach? And how do you maintain

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<v Speaker 1>credibility in a world where skepticism is the default. There

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<v Speaker 1>are many ways to have a close encounter with bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of our interviewees actually saw the creature, fleeting glimpses

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<v Speaker 1>of a massive, hairy, bipedal figure.

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<v Speaker 2>Moving through the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>These visual encounters follow a pattern. A lone observer catches

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<v Speaker 1>sight of Bigfoot dashing across a road, peering from behind

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<v Speaker 1>a tree, or silhouetted against the sky as it strides

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<v Speaker 1>down a mountainside. The moment is brief, often unclear, and

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<v Speaker 1>leaves the witness grappling with what they just saw. But

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<v Speaker 1>sight is not the only way to experience Bigfoot. Many

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<v Speaker 1>encounters happen without a direct visual large rocks hurled from

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<v Speaker 1>unseen sources, chilling howls vibrating through the body, or a

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<v Speaker 1>sense of being watched in the deep forest. These two

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<v Speaker 1>are bigfoot encounters. The rarest kind of interaction is one

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<v Speaker 1>involving direct contact, whether through physical touch or through the

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<v Speaker 1>phenomenon known as gifting, where Bigfoot is said to leave

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<v Speaker 1>objects for humans in a form of communication. Bigfoot is

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<v Speaker 1>believed to be nocturnal, making the forest at night the

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<v Speaker 1>prime setting for encounters. For serious bigfooters, these experiences differ

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<v Speaker 1>from the chance sightings of an unsuspecting driver or hiker.

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<v Speaker 1>They go in prepared, armed with cameras, microphones, parabolic dishes,

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<v Speaker 1>even drones, determined to capture evidence of the creature's existence.

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<v Speaker 1>Among them is Cliff Barrickman, a seasoned bigfoot investigator and

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<v Speaker 1>former member of the Bigfoot Field Reco's organization. While filming

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<v Speaker 1>for Finding Bigfoot in North Carolina, Berrickman had an encounter

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<v Speaker 1>that left a lasting impression. The only time I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>one wasn't a good sighting, but I'm inclined to think

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<v Speaker 1>it was a sasquatch. We were filming in North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>On the first night, Moneymaker says, there's something on the hill.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't take it seriously. The producers were pushing us

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<v Speaker 1>to say things we didn't believe, and we were frustrated.

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<v Speaker 1>But as we hiked two miles into the woods, something happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Moneymaker kept asking who's on the hill?

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<v Speaker 1>Then about seventy yards away, he saw a figure standing

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<v Speaker 1>there watching us. Matt had a thermal imager. He yelled

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<v Speaker 1>at it and it started walking. Then it did something strange.

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<v Speaker 1>It froze mid step on one leg. That's a known

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<v Speaker 1>sasquatch behavior. It stayed perfectly still for several seconds before continuing.

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<v Speaker 1>I turned my thermal imager toward it and saw a

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<v Speaker 1>biped It was either a human or a sasquatch. Those

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like Patty from the Patterson Gimlin film either.

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<v Speaker 1>The arms scooped forward like when you walk through the

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<v Speaker 1>shallow end of a pool. Bigfoot encounters need a good storyteller,

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<v Speaker 1>and television demands that evidence be presented with narrative structure. Berrickman,

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<v Speaker 1>a respected figure in the field, carefully framed his experience.

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<v Speaker 1>He qualified it as an unclear sighting, but ruled out

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<v Speaker 1>other possibilities, leaving only two options human or sasquatch. And

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<v Speaker 1>least for him, became clear. Matt Pruett, another member of

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<v Speaker 1>the BFRO, recounts an experience from his high school years,

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<v Speaker 1>long before he connected it to Bigfoot. We had heard

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<v Speaker 1>stories of a haunted place where strange things happened, disembodied howls,

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<v Speaker 1>thrown rocks, glowing red eyes. At the time, no one

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<v Speaker 1>associated these with Bigfoot. One summer night, we decided to

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<v Speaker 1>camp there, armed with flashlights in an old VHS camquarder,

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<v Speaker 1>we set out to explore. At first, we heard rustling,

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<v Speaker 1>probably just animals, but then it escalated, branches breaking, loud,

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<v Speaker 1>slamming noises, unmistakable vocalizations. It became so unnerving that we

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<v Speaker 1>Pruitt later learned that wood knocking and vocal calls are

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<v Speaker 1>considered signs of Bigfoot communication. The experience, once supernatural and inexplicable,

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<v Speaker 2>The lore of bigfoot research.

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<v Speaker 1>Shane Corson, a senior member of the Olympic Project, also

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<v Speaker 1>experienced something strange. I had a two night encounter in

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<v Speaker 1>the mount Hood wilderness. At first I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>it was, but now now I know. We were deep

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<v Speaker 2>For more sasquatch ot to see. We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>After these messages, around two am, I heard two rocks

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<v Speaker 1>being clapped together. It got closer and closer. Then something

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<v Speaker 1>hit a tree. The next night it happened again, but

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<v Speaker 1>this time it was louder, more aggressive. Then came the rock.

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<v Speaker 1>A soft ball sized stone hurled into our camp and

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<v Speaker 1>then I saw it. Through the darkness. I made out

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<v Speaker 1>a massive figure behind a douglas fur, a hand, an arm,

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<v Speaker 1>a shoulder. It moved side to side, peeking out, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it was gone. At the time, Courson tried to

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<v Speaker 1>rationalize what he was experiencing, but later, after researching bigfoot reports,

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<v Speaker 1>the details started to make sense. The rock throwing, the

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<v Speaker 1>tree knocks, the massive, lurking figure, these were all documented

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<v Speaker 1>sasquatch behaviors.

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<v Speaker 2>The unknown took shape.

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<v Speaker 1>One particularly eerie encounter comes from an anonymous witness, GK,

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<v Speaker 1>who runs a sasquatch website. We were camping in a

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<v Speaker 1>remote part of Canada, miles from anyone. In the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the night, I woke up to something touching my tent.

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<v Speaker 1>Then a hand massive gripped my head through the fabric.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine a hand so big it could hold your entire

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<v Speaker 1>skull like a basketball. It had no claws, only thick fingers.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't an animal. It wasn't my friend, who I

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<v Speaker 1>could hear snoring in his tent. The next morning, my

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<v Speaker 1>friend said, what were you doing walking around my tent

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<v Speaker 1>last night?

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<v Speaker 2>But I hadn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Something on two legs had been pacing around his tent.

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<v Speaker 1>We checked our valuables, expensive fishing rods, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>our gear. Everything was untouched. GK never saw what had

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<v Speaker 1>grabbed him, but the details fingers instead of claws, bipedal movement,

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<v Speaker 1>no human presence, left an absence that could only be

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<v Speaker 1>filled by something unknown, or for those who believe something known,

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<v Speaker 1>some encounters require other people to fill the absence. Leo

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<v Speaker 1>Frank had his face to face encounter in King's County.

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<v Speaker 1>I was taking a short cut up through a stream,

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<v Speaker 1>and as I came around a corner at the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of a waterfall, I saw what I thought was the

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<v Speaker 1>back of a black bear. Black bears are common in

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<v Speaker 1>the area, so I instinctively started backing up, But then

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<v Speaker 1>what I assumed to be a bear stood up, turned

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<v Speaker 1>around and looked directly at me. One of its arms

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<v Speaker 1>was wet, as if it had been fishing or injured.

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<v Speaker 1>It stood there, just staring. I froze. My entire world

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<v Speaker 1>stopped because what I was looking at was not a bear.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a hair covered man standing in a brook

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<v Speaker 1>that I had walked through thousands of times before. At

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<v Speaker 1>that moment, everything I knew about the world just stopped.

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<v Speaker 1>You start to question everything all at once, but at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time you can't really think of anything. When

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<v Speaker 1>I told my uncle what I saw, all he said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what you're describing sounds like Bigfoot, and I

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<v Speaker 1>thought bigfoot up here. After that, I didn't go into

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<v Speaker 1>the woods for quite some time. That was strange for

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<v Speaker 1>me because the forest had been my second home since childhood.

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<v Speaker 1>But after that encounter, I was rattled. It sent me

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<v Speaker 1>to bookstores and libraries trying to learn everything I could

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<v Speaker 1>about Bigfoot. Frank's encounter takes place in the familiar. He's

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<v Speaker 1>navigating terrain he knows well, a shortcut he's taken many

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<v Speaker 1>times before. He presents himself as an experienced outdoorsman, someone

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<v Speaker 1>who wouldn't easily mistake a bear for something else. Yet

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<v Speaker 1>when the figure revealed itself, he was left speechless, his

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<v Speaker 1>mind unable to process what he was seeing. Even as

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<v Speaker 1>a reluctant witness, he needed his uncle to fill in

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<v Speaker 1>the missing piece. Once again, we see how the framework

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<v Speaker 1>of bigfoot lore allows an inexplicable experience to take shape

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<v Speaker 1>in the mind of the observer. Many Bigfoot encounters come

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<v Speaker 1>from people who work in or spend a significant amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time in the woods. These individuals, hunters, loggers, or

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<v Speaker 1>military personnel often established their credibility by emphasizing their expertise

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<v Speaker 1>in the wilderness. One such account comes from Todd Nice,

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<v Speaker 1>a retired soldier and founder of the American Primate Conservancy.

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<v Speaker 1>Growing up in the Pacific Northwest, I heard all the

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<v Speaker 1>stories about Bigfoot, but I never paid any attention to them.

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<v Speaker 1>That changed in April nineteen ninety three. I was working

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<v Speaker 1>as a combat engineer and we had special permission to

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<v Speaker 1>use a rock quarry and Clatsup County for training. That day,

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<v Speaker 1>we were setting off large explosions, several hundred pounds of

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<v Speaker 1>plastic explosives at a time. It was a clear day,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had my window open, naturally looking for wildlife

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<v Speaker 1>as I had hunted in that area before. Then, as

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<v Speaker 1>we descended the road toward the blast site, I saw them,

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<v Speaker 1>three dark figures standing exactly where we had just detonated

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<v Speaker 1>explosives an hour earlier. My first thought was, what the

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<v Speaker 1>hell are those people doing there? But we had two

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<v Speaker 1>rings of security ensuring no civilians were in the area,

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<v Speaker 1>and we had one hundred percent integrity. Everybody was accounted for.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when I realized what I was looking at were

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<v Speaker 1>not people. They were bipedal standing three abreast watching us.

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<v Speaker 1>As we approached the one in The center was about

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<v Speaker 1>nine feet tall. The two flanking it were a foot

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<v Speaker 1>or so shorter. Their proportions were all wrong for humans.

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<v Speaker 1>Arms too long, legs too long, massive shoulders. Their traps

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<v Speaker 1>were so developed that their heads seemed to sit directly

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<v Speaker 1>on their shoulders. The middle figure stood completely still, like

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<v Speaker 1>a statue, while the other two swayed from side to side.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched them for about twenty five seconds before we

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<v Speaker 1>lost sight of them. As the convoy took a turn.

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<v Speaker 1>I just collapsed back in my seat, trying to process

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<v Speaker 1>what I had seen. When we reached the staging area,

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<v Speaker 1>I instinctively started logging back up the road, straining to

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<v Speaker 1>get another look. That's when my sergeant approached me. He

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<v Speaker 1>called out, I don't suppose you saw what I saw

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<v Speaker 1>back at the second blast sight.

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<v Speaker 2>I nodded.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he took a drag from his cigarette, looked around

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure no one else could hear, and said,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw three huge, hair covered bigfoot. I guess Nice

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<v Speaker 1>describes himself as a skeptic, someone who never believed in

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<v Speaker 1>bigfoot and had no reason to, but when faced with

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<v Speaker 1>a site that defied explanation, he could only eliminate what

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<v Speaker 1>he knew to be impossible. The account is made even

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<v Speaker 1>more compelling by the corroboration of his sergeant, reinforcing the

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<v Speaker 1>credibility of what he saw. Another compelling account comes from

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<v Speaker 1>Mark de Werth, a bigfoot researcher with the BFRO. His

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<v Speaker 1>sighting in Coshocton County, Ohio in nineteen ninety seven was

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<v Speaker 1>the turning point in his search for the elusive creature.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't looking for bigfoot that day. I was out

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<v Speaker 1>looking for badger dens. There were three of us hiking

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<v Speaker 1>when we started hearing movement above us. At first we

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<v Speaker 1>assumed it was deer, but whenever we stopped, it stopped.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever we moved, it moved. Eventually, we split up, thinking

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<v Speaker 1>we might.

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<v Speaker 2>Flush out whatever it was. I sat for a.

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<v Speaker 1>Few minutes and nothing happened. But the moment I started

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<v Speaker 1>walking again, I heard something large moving parallel to me.

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<v Speaker 1>My first thought was great, I'm being stalked by a

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<v Speaker 1>mountain lion. I decided to get out of there. As

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<v Speaker 1>I approached the road where my jeep was parked, I

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<v Speaker 1>could still hear movement behind me. Then I heard heavy

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<v Speaker 1>footsteps crunching above me on the slope. I turned to look,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's when I saw it, about seventy feet away,

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<v Speaker 1>a dark shape squatting. At first I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>a black bear, but as I went to take off

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<v Speaker 1>my pack, it made noise. That's when the figure stood up.

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<v Speaker 1>The first thing I noticed was its ears positioned on

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<v Speaker 1>the sides of its head. Then I saw the flat face.

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<v Speaker 1>It turned and looked directly at me. In that instant,

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<v Speaker 1>I almost fell backward off the trail. My adrenaline was pumping.

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<v Speaker 1>I grabbed my camcorder and took off running after it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was already gone. I don't even remember the

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<v Speaker 1>two hour drive home. I was in complete shock. De

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<v Speaker 1>Wert's encounter solidified his belief in Bigfoot. He had been

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<v Speaker 1>a researcher, but at times his faith wavered. That day

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<v Speaker 1>everything changed. Like the other witnesses, his credibility is reinforced

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<v Speaker 1>by his familiarity with the outdoors and his careful elimination

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<v Speaker 1>of other possibilities. And like Nice, he acknowledges that once

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen something like this, you can't unsee it. From

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<v Speaker 1>the Pacific Northwest to the forests of Nova Scotia, encounters

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<v Speaker 1>like these raise questions that science has yet to answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Skeptics may dismiss them, but for those who have come

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<v Speaker 1>face to face with something inexplicable, the experience is undeniable.

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<v Speaker 1>When everything they know about the world is upended in

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<v Speaker 1>an instant, they are left with a question. If it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a bear, and it wasn't a man, then what

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<v Speaker 1>was it. Most of the bigfoot encounters we collected in

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<v Speaker 1>our interviews revolve around an absence, something missing at their core.

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<v Speaker 1>These absences exist because bigfooters anticipate the ways in which

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<v Speaker 1>their audience might try to explain away their encounters. Their

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<v Speaker 1>stories are grounded in anticipated stigma. Witnesses acknowledge that their

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<v Speaker 1>experiences might be dismissed as misidentifications. They anticipate that skeptics

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<v Speaker 1>will say they were fooled by nature by their own senses.

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<v Speaker 1>What one interview we referred to as self hoaxing, but

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<v Speaker 1>they push back. It was not a cougar. It walked

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<v Speaker 1>on two legs. It was not a bear. It had

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<v Speaker 1>hands with thumbs. It was not a human. It was

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<v Speaker 1>too tall, its arms disproportionate. These witnesses feel they have

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<v Speaker 1>the right to make these assertions because they are not

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<v Speaker 1>amateurs in the woods. They know the terrain, the sounds,

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<v Speaker 1>and the wildlife. They are legitimate interpreters. Equally, they reject

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that it was a prank or a man

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<v Speaker 1>in a monkey suit. These are seasoned individuals, some military trained,

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<v Speaker 1>who are not easily fooled or frightened. They present themselves

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<v Speaker 1>as skeptics first, not easily convinced. They doubt their own senses,

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<v Speaker 1>They question their own memories. They doubt even their families

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<v Speaker 1>and friends. But their encounters, unforgettable, life changing moments erase

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<v Speaker 1>that doubt. It takes an experience of that magnitude to

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<v Speaker 1>turn them into believers. Their stories methodically construct an absence

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<v Speaker 1>that is credible even against the strongest objections. They are

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<v Speaker 1>engaged in impression management, shaping their testimony to withstand scrutiny.

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<v Speaker 1>As Sherlock Holmes famously said, when you have eliminated all

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<v Speaker 1>which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be

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<v Speaker 1>the truth. Historian Carlo Ginsburg twenty thirteen refers to this

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<v Speaker 1>this is the conjectural paradigm, a method of assembling clues

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<v Speaker 1>from frequently overlooked traces and signs to construct a broader

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<v Speaker 1>understanding Bigfoot witnesses use a similar process. They invite us

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<v Speaker 1>to follow their reasoning, eliminating what it was not, leaving

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<v Speaker 1>room only for what it must have been, and in

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<v Speaker 1>collaboration with the storyteller, the audience is expected to do

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<v Speaker 1>the same, to fill in the absence with a shape,

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<v Speaker 1>one that is widely recognized, even if not widely believed.

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<v Speaker 1>The absences in these encounters create the space for bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>in the absence of seeing Bigfoot. It is found in

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<v Speaker 1>what is missing science as the ultimate knowledge making institution

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<v Speaker 1>is fundamentally social Merten, nineteen seventy nine. Trust, credibility, and

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<v Speaker 1>disciplinary norm shape scientific knowledge, which is produced within a

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<v Speaker 1>particular social context Shapen, nineteen ninety four. Likewise, bigfoot encounters

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<v Speaker 1>follow a similar structure. Witnesses define the absences in their

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<v Speaker 1>experiences and then work to fill them, transforming the unexplained

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<v Speaker 1>into something they can count as evidence. But making an

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<v Speaker 1>encounter with the unknown unusual sounds, strange events, or a

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<v Speaker 1>fleeting sighting into an encounter with bigfoot requires prior knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>of bigfoot. This knowledge does not come from personal experience alone.

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<v Speaker 1>It comes from immersion in a community where Bigfoot exists.

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<v Speaker 1>It grows through storytelling investigation and collective agreement. It is

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<v Speaker 1>refined over time, just like scientific knowledge. How tall is Bigfoot?

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<v Speaker 1>What color is its fur? What does it sound like?

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<v Speaker 1>Even if Bigfoot does not exist as a biological entity,

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<v Speaker 1>within certain knowledge making communities, its characteristics are known, imperfectly, tentatively,

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<v Speaker 1>but known. This knowledge helps shape interpretations of unexplained encounters,

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<v Speaker 1>forming a framework that excludes alternative explos nations. In this way,

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<v Speaker 1>belief in Bigfoot is not just about what people see,

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<v Speaker 1>but about what they know or what they have come

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<v Speaker 1>to understand through the stories and testimonies of those who

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<v Speaker 1>claim to have seen. After hearing from some of the

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and sixty six bigfooters interviewed by Lewis and Bartlett,

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<v Speaker 1>it's clear that belief in Bigfoot isn't just about evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about experience, culture, and personal conviction. But why does

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<v Speaker 1>the legend persist even as modern science and technology make

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<v Speaker 1>it harder than ever to hide a large, undiscovered primate.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it about Bigfoot that continues to capture the

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<v Speaker 1>imagination of so many people? Sixty years ago this fall,

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<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot stomped into the public consciousness giant footprints puzzle residents

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<v Speaker 1>read a headline in the Humboldt Times, a small northern

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<v Speaker 1>California newspaper. The article described how a road construction crew

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<v Speaker 1>had discovered massive human like footprints, each an astonishing sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>inches long. It was this article that first coined the

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<v Speaker 1>now iconic name Bigfoot. From that moment on, the creature

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<v Speaker 1>became a fixture in American folklore, lurking in the shadows

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<v Speaker 1>of our collective imagination. Today, Bigfoot is everywhere. The shaggy

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<v Speaker 1>figure appears in two children's films released this year, The

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<v Speaker 1>Son of Bigfoot and small Foot. Animal Planet recently wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>up Finding Bigfoot, a series that lasted eleven seasons, despite

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<v Speaker 1>never actually finding Bigfoot. The Bigfoot Field Researchers organization has

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<v Speaker 1>documented at least one siding in every state except Hawaii

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<v Speaker 1>over the past two decades. The most recent report came

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<v Speaker 1>in June twenty eighteen, when a Florida woman described seeing

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<v Speaker 1>something that looked like a large pile of soggy grass.

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<v Speaker 1>The organization's database also includes supposed Bigfoot scat nests and

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<v Speaker 1>strange noises.

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<v Speaker 2>If a tree falls in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Forest and no one is around to hear it, someone

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<v Speaker 1>will probably claim Bigfoot knocked it over and stay tuned

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<v Speaker 1>for more sasquatch ot to see. We'll be right back

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<v Speaker 1>after these messages. Despite all this interest, paleontologist Darren Nash notes,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing even close to compelling as goes the evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, the legend of the wild man existed in

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<v Speaker 1>North America long before nineteen fifty eight. Indigenous groups of

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<v Speaker 1>the Pacific Northwest had long told stories of Sasquatches, mysterious

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<v Speaker 1>hairy beings that roamed the wilderness, But it was the

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<v Speaker 1>footprints near Bluff Creek, California that propelled Bigfoot into the

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<v Speaker 1>modern media spotlight. Decades later, the truth behind those prints

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<v Speaker 1>came to light. They had been planted as a prank

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<v Speaker 1>by a man named Ray Wallace. His children revealed the

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<v Speaker 1>hoax after his death in two thousand and two, calling

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<v Speaker 1>it just a joke. Yet by then the Bigfoot myth

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<v Speaker 1>had taken on a life of its own. The most

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<v Speaker 1>famous piece of evidence, the nineteen sixty seven Patterson Gimlin film,

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<v Speaker 1>captures a hairy, bipedal creature striding through the woods near

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<v Speaker 1>Bluff Creek, the very same area where Wallace staged his hoax.

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<v Speaker 1>Skeptics argue that the figure in the film is simply

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<v Speaker 1>a person in a costume, while believers insist that the

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<v Speaker 1>creature's proportions and movements are too unusual to be human.

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<v Speaker 1>The debate has raged for over half a century. As

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<v Speaker 1>Benjamin Radford, a research fellow with the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry,

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<v Speaker 1>puts it, how is it that the evidence has not

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<v Speaker 1>gotten any better despite the exponential increase in the quantity

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<v Speaker 1>and quality of cameras. It's true that the absence of

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<v Speaker 1>evidence isn't necessarily evidence of absence. Wild animals don't pose

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<v Speaker 1>for photos, and new species are still discovered in remote regions.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen ninety two, scientists found the siola, a rare

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<v Speaker 1>relative of the cow, in the forests of Vietnam, But

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<v Speaker 1>the key difference is that no one was searching for

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<v Speaker 1>the siola for centuries with cameras at the ready. The

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<v Speaker 1>continued belief in Bigfoot suggests that this is more about

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<v Speaker 1>human imagination than zoological reality. Nash argues that Bigfoot is

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<v Speaker 1>not an undiscovered species, but rather a modern American version

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<v Speaker 1>of a widespread cultural concept. The Australian yowie, the Himalayan yetti,

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<v Speaker 1>and Bigfoot all share common traits bipedal movement, shaggy hair,

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<v Speaker 1>and oversized feet. These creatures serve as reflections of our

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<v Speaker 1>own species, what humans might have been if civilization had

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<v Speaker 1>never intervened. For some, cryptohominids like Bigfoot represent the ultimate freedom,

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<v Speaker 1>beings that live by pure instinct, evading every attempt to

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<v Speaker 1>capture them. Searching for Bigfoot is not just about finding

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<v Speaker 1>a creature, It's about connecting with nature. Bigfoot hunters become

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<v Speaker 1>hyper aware of their surroundings, the scin of scat, the

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<v Speaker 1>sound of snapping branches, mysterious tracks.

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<v Speaker 2>In the dirt.

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<v Speaker 1>As long as wild places remain, so too does the

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<v Speaker 1>possibility of Bigfoot, a legend that cannot be entirely disproven.

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<v Speaker 1>The hunt also echoes an earlier era of exploration, when

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<v Speaker 1>discovery was driven not by degrees and laboratories, but by

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<v Speaker 1>sheer curiosity and survival instincts. In the nineteenth century, America's

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<v Speaker 1>vast landscapes were uncharted by Europeans and ordinary settlers ventured

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<v Speaker 1>into the unknown. Tracking Bigfoot today allows enthusiasts to relive

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<v Speaker 1>that frontier spirit, though sometimes at the expense of appropriating

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<v Speaker 1>Native American traditions. But not everyone sees Bigfoot as a

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<v Speaker 1>noble pursuit. Some argue that the legend survives because of

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<v Speaker 1>something less romantic, human gullibility and the desire for attention.

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<v Speaker 1>There are so many fake videos, says Lauren Coleman, founder

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<v Speaker 1>of the International Cryptozoology Museum in Portland, Maine. Social media

537
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<v Speaker 1>has only made the problem worse, allowing hoaxes like drone

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<v Speaker 1>footage of an alleged Bigfoot in Idaho to go viral

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<v Speaker 1>and rack up millions of views. Even believers struggle to

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<v Speaker 1>focus on what they consider real evidence amid a flood

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<v Speaker 1>of obvious fakes. Technology has ruined the old cryptozoology. Coleman

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<v Speaker 1>laments his words reflect a broader issue in modern society.

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<v Speaker 1>We live in an age where technology, which once promised

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<v Speaker 1>to clarify a truth, has instead made it more elusive.

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<v Speaker 1>In this new digital wilderness, Bigfoot has found a habitat

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<v Speaker 1>far more hospitable than North American forests. The creature doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>need to exist to live forever online. Bigfoot will never

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<v Speaker 1>go extinct. Bigfoot is not the only supposed missing link

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<v Speaker 1>to captivate audiences. In the late nineteen sixties, A new

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<v Speaker 1>sensation emerged. The Minnesota Iceman in November nineteen sixty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>showman Frank Hanson unveils a frozen Bigfoot like figure encased

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<v Speaker 1>in ice at the International Livestock Exposition in Chicago, claiming

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<v Speaker 1>it was found in Siberian waters. The display catches the

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<v Speaker 1>attention of Ivan T. Sanderson of the Society for the

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<v Speaker 1>Investigation of the Unexplained. In December of that same year,

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<v Speaker 1>Sanderson and Bernard Hoovelman's of the Royal Institute of Natural

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<v Speaker 1>Sciences of Belgium examined the creature in a trailer in Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 1>Convinced they've discovered a new species, they name it Homo

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<v Speaker 1>pongoides and alert primate biologist John Napier at the Smithsonian.

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<v Speaker 1>In the winner of nineteen sixty nine. Napier launches an investigation,

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<v Speaker 1>but Hanson refuses him access to the body. US Customs

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<v Speaker 1>takes interest since the specimen was allegedly imported. In April

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<v Speaker 1>of sixty nine, the Smithsonian asks FBI Director J Edgar

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<v Speaker 1>Hoover for help. Hoover declines, citing a lack of federal jurisdiction. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>Hanson replaces the real iceman with a model in May

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<v Speaker 1>without physical access. Napier analyzes photos and videos. A Hollywood

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<v Speaker 1>special effects company eventually admits it created the Iceman in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty. The Smithsonian concludes the whole thing was a

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<v Speaker 1>carnival exhibit made of latex and hair. Today, the Minnesota

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<v Speaker 1>Iceman resides in Austin's Museum of the Weird, a relic

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<v Speaker 1>of a bygone.

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<v Speaker 2>Era of hoaxes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet Bigfoot lives on because the legend is not about proof,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about possibility. As we wrap up today's episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday Wisdom, I want to leave you with some final thoughts,

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<v Speaker 1>not just about the research we've discussed, but about the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger picture of sasquatch encounters and belief itself. We've explored

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<v Speaker 1>the work of Jamie Lewis and Andrew Bartlett, who have

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<v Speaker 1>shed light on the social dynamics of bigfoot encounters, how

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<v Speaker 1>these experiences are framed, validated, and communicated within different communities.

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<v Speaker 1>Their findings underscore and important reality. Belief is not just

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<v Speaker 1>about what we see, but about how we process, share,

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<v Speaker 1>and defend those experiences in the larger social world, and

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<v Speaker 1>in that sense, sasquatch research is just as much about

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<v Speaker 1>people as it is about the creatures themselves. For many years,

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<v Speaker 1>I stood firmly in the camp of the skeptic, not

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<v Speaker 1>just skeptical, but an ardent skeptic. I questioned, I doubted,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remained unconvinced. My skepticism was always twofold. It

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<v Speaker 1>was about whether these creatures could exist, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>about whether the evidence truly supported such claims. And then

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<v Speaker 1>something happened that changed everything. I saw them with my

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<v Speaker 1>own eyes. No grainy photos, no fleeting shadows, no ambiguous

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<v Speaker 1>tracks in the dirt. I saw them, and in that

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<v Speaker 1>moment I left behind the realm of the believers and

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<v Speaker 1>stepped into the camp of the knowers. Because once you

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<v Speaker 1>see them for yourself, belief is no longer necessary.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's where my skepticism remains, and where it will

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<v Speaker 1>always remain, in man, in the claims that go beyond

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<v Speaker 1>what the evidence can support, in the sensational stories that

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<v Speaker 1>ask for blind faith rather than careful conceiler. I am

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<v Speaker 1>not skeptical of sasquatch. I am skeptical of those who

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<v Speaker 1>make extraordinary claims without the extraordinary evidence to.

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<v Speaker 2>Back them up.

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<v Speaker 1>Because at the end of the day, truth doesn't need embellishment,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't need theatrics. It simply is so now I

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<v Speaker 1>turn the question to you, what do you choose to believe?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you rely.

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<v Speaker 1>Solely on personal experience? Do you trust the accounts of others,

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<v Speaker 1>or do you demand the kind of evidence that would

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<v Speaker 1>hold up under the scrutiny of science. I challenge you

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<v Speaker 1>to make that decision for yourself. To examine the evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to the stories, to think critically, but to

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<v Speaker 1>also keep your mind open, because sometimes the greatest discoveries

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<v Speaker 1>come not when we seek to prove what we already believe,

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<v Speaker 1>but when we are willing to confront what we once

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<v Speaker 1>thought was impossible. Until next time. Stay curious, stay questioning,

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<v Speaker 1>and as always, stay wise.

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<v Speaker 4>They say you go home, but you can't stay.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>To be a world up its try this chart, that

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<v Speaker 4>chart everything, call me, ride back right back the joy

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<v Speaker 4>for me joy stay right.

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<v Speaker 3>There, come it right away.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, still storms stas st.

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<v Speaker 3>St stas.

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<v Speaker 3>Things, US news
