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Speaker 1: How are the Alis Jumzumm your guest host Jay Dyer,

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we have with us today a guest from the UK.

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We've been wanting on my fourth hour for a couple

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of weeks now to cover all the madness in the

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UK with the rape gangs, with the cover up that's

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been going on for decades now, and it ties in

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directly to the history of the left in the UK.

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We've covered this, as you guys know, the Fabian socialist history,

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the history of H. G. Wells, bertrand Russell, all those

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characters who actually talked about one hundred plus years ago

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bringing in a large scale Islamic believers. It began with

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Sufism and then it progressed into more and more Wahabi

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Salafia strains of Islam. And so today with me is

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the member of the Homeland Party that is Alec Cave.

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You can find him on Twitter. We're gonna be talking

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about his analysis and he's been putting out a lot

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of information lately, especially tweets. Catch us up more recently

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on what's been going on in the last few weeks

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this cover up, and then maybe we'll go into some

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of the history and what you and your party stand

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for there in the UK. What's been going on with

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this cover up? Is it actually a cover up? What

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was Cure Starmer's role? Can you give us some information

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on that, Alex.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's been this horrific phenomena in the UK

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where basically organized pedophile gangs, which are predominantly been operated

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by the Pakistani diaspora, have been as I say, forming

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pedophile gangs and they've been grooming young white British girls.

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And it's not the thing that's so horrific about it

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is it's not just you know, gang rape. It would

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often involve torture as well. Some of the stories that

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you'll hear about these cases are truly just so sickening

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to the pit of your stomach, and they're just some

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of the most saddest things that you'll ever hear. And

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it's been going on for decades and it's been known

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about by the authorities but not properly tackled for various reasons,

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one of them being, you'll hear is because of political correctness. Obviously,

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we've had this movement of anti racism for the past

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half century, which is bait, and so the left basically

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pointed every single institution and say, well, they're all institutionally racist.

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And so what happened was is that the police didn't

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want to tackle the issue for fear that they would

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be considered racist. Because obviously, if they start charging a

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disproportionate amount of Pakistanis for pedophile rape, then obviously they're

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going to have the left wing establishment, you know, cry

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at them and crow and cause all of these issues.

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So rather than save young girls from gang rape, the

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police decided to overlook it so that they didn't have

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to endure you know, the media and left wing politicians

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and whatnot demonizing them. So that's the gist of what's happened.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: You know, you've had campaigners for many years and trying

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to raise the issue, but it's been very taboo in

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this country. It's something that particularly you know, the middle

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class in the liberal elite don't want to touch because

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it makes them feel uncomfortable, you know when they have

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their dinner parties.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, working class communities that have had to endure this,

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you know, this horrific phenomenon. And just in the sick

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one town alone of Rotherham, over a thousand girls in

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one town were raped by organized pedophile gangs. But this

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has flared up again. It's come into the conversation at

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the start of this year. Elon Musk, as we know,

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has been drawing attention to it, which you know is

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a fantastic thing. You know, it's a great thing to

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have the the world's richest man and the owner of

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X speaking about this, and of course you've had many

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people in the British establishment horrified that he would draw

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attention to it, especially in the manner that he's doing so,

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but that's basically what's happened, so it's in the discourse again.

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One of the frustrating things is that so many people

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that wouldn't touch this topic are now openly talking about

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it as if oh, they've always been talking about it,

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when they haven't. It's only nationalists in Britain that I've

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really drawn attention to this issue, and that's quite sickening

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that these people will only talk about this horrific phenomena

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that's going on when it's politically expedient and politically acceptable

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for them to do so.

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Speaker 1: Now. I don't know your position on this in terms

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of the big picture, but from my reading and what

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I've seen, it looks like there are a lot of

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high level people in the EU bureaucracy and in the

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UK as well over the years who thought that they

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could really signal their virtue and that they could really

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have this diversity, this inclusive society. But perhaps that there's

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actually a more insidious and more malicious approach that's behind

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all this, which is intentionally bringing in, you know, cultures

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that are not amenable to the West, people that do

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not have any interest in, you know, being amenable to

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the West or integrating into the philosophy of our society.

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know what your view on that is, but I see

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it as an intentional way to essentially re engineer the

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existing populations through demographic warfare.

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Speaker 2: Well, certainly there are ideologues that buy into this multiculturalist doctrine.

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were covered up, is because you've got all of these

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progressives that want to create this racially and ethnically diverse

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society because they think that is true human progress.

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Speaker 1: Alan thought, right there, we have a break. We'll be

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right back with Alec Cave. Welcome back to the fourth

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hour of the alex Jonesshoum your guest host Jay Dyer

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of Jay's Analysis. You know, one thing that we do

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on my channel, and that I've done over the years

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is read the actual writings of the global elite. One

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of those characters was a guy named Count Kudenhalf Khalergi,

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who wrote a book called Practical Idealism in which he

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says that Europe as it exists would have to be

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essentially destroyed. Carol Quigley says that the Royal Society, the

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Royal Supernational Affairs, a lot of the other socialist elite

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of the UK decided to adopt that plan to help

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in the process of destroying not just Europe but also

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the West. And it's a well known strategy. It is

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called the weapon of mass migration, which even academics write

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famous public texts about. So really has nothing to do

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with the conspiracy there. It has to do with social

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engineering and warfare. In fact, warfare has four centuries from

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millennia utilize the importation of foreign populations to disrupt some

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other target audience or some target nation. Today, Alec Cave

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joins me, and we were just getting into the perhaps

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malicious intention on the part of the elite particularly in

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the UK and across the West. It's the same in

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the US as well. We have many malicious, especially left

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minded elite and my view is that you have a

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lot of really powerful people who utilize this sounds good, kumbaya,

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let's all get together, diversity ideology, but it's actually a

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weapon that's intended I think, to destroy and re engineer

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the existing populations. And so Alec was just covering that.

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I had to go to the break, So finish your

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point on that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, like I say, there will be people that

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genuinely buy into this egalitarian, progressive view of creating a

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multicultural society, but of course there are other interests and

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other nefarious people that want to promote mass migration for

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their own reasons. Of course, big business they benefit from

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mass immigration because it suppresses wages. But then the political

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class also benefit because when you have a diversus population,

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you then have a divided population. And of course there's

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the old adage about divide and conquer, But then there

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are other elements too. There's I think people are starting

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to recognize that a lot of this migration is a

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weapon against white populations, against European peoples, and I think

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it's fair and accurate for people to say there is

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an anti white agenda. Mass migration is absolutely used to

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undermine and disempower the majority native populations. And yeah, it's

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just it's completely sinister, and that's why the Homeland Party exists.

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We want to actually reverse this process. We want to

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reverse globalism. So we actually want to reverse mass migration

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with the policy platform of remigration, which is a term

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you might have heard floating around at the moment. This

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is Europeans fighting back to reclaim their national sovereignty, to

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reclaim their homelands. Because we don't want diversity, We don't

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want multiculturalism.

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Speaker 1: We never asked for it.

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Speaker 2: And as we were speaking speaking about just at the

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beginning of the show, what's one of the horrible consequences

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of multiculturalism Pakistani pedophile rape gangs. Well, we certainly didn't

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ask for those, and I'm afraid to say, the only

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way you're going to stop that is if you encourage

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these people, this fifth column, this community that hates us

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to go back home. Because a lot of people want

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to say, well, it was political correctness, Oh, it was

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a failing of law enforcement, and of course you know

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those things come into it. If you don't, if you

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don't actually sanction and punish pedophile rapists, then guess what,

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they're going to be more emboldened to do the horrific crimes.

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But then you have to ask yourself, well, why were

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they doing it in the first place. It's not because

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of a lack of law and order. It's because they

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hate the native population. You know, this was definitely ethnically

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and religiously motivated against us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really sad. What's your view on why this

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has been so successful in the West. You know, the

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West used to be pretty solid in its own convictions

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about its philosophy, its ideas. It's kind of, at least

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in some sense, biblical heritage, loosely speaking. But the left

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seems to have really played on the good natured attitude

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that most people in the West have towards foreigners, towards

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our kindness or virtues, and that they've really played on

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that to put us in a mode of I would say,

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foulk guilt. You know, we're supposed to feel bad for well,

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there was once a British empire, and there was a

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you know, colonies and colonialism in the French and the

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Portuguese and all of these empires we're supposed to be

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paying for, you know, this horrible debt of the past,

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And to me, that's all just a bunch of Bolognian propaganda.

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them to be successful? And is it a top down

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thing that really isn't from the bottom up of the

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Speaker 2: Well, there's obviously multiple reasons why we're seeing the things

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is liberalism. I think we're reaching the end stage of

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the liberal worldview and ideology. You know, if you just

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utterly and ruthlessly promote individualism and egalitarianism, well that's why

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we've got the mass migration, because who are we, the

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indigenous Europeans, to say and deny people's right to migration.

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against human rights and things like this. So it's you know,

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which is why you're seeing so many people reject liberalism

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and turn against it. But like I say, you've got

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the special interest groups like big business, you've got the

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political class it suits them. And you've also got people

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that just don't like Western Europeans very much and so

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they want to attack an undermine us. So there's multiple reasons. Really,

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you can't just point to one thing. But it's all

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of these things culminating, which is why, you know, modern

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society is so miserable. But like I say, that's why

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we've got movements to kind of approach things differently and

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reject these modes of thinking that have caused so much devastation.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not in any way an expert on you know,

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UK politics, but in America we have this sort of

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doopoly where there's a you know, a controlled you know,

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Republican in name only only, the sort of pseudo conservatives,

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and then we have you know, the very radical, almost

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i would say, demonic Democratic Party, and that doopoly, that false,

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that fake left right is really what allowed so much

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degeneracy to make progress and so many you know, for example,

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set up on an Indian reservation, which I've never seen before.

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intentionally those kinds of people are brought in because they

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have that kind of of a demoralizing pro rape philosophy.

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from the third World? And I think that's very much deliberate.

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to be as hegemonic as it has been for centuries.

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you promote third world migration, then you know, soon enough

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your own country is going to become third World. Certainly,

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the natives have been disempowered, you know, like I just said,

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a moment ago about liberalism. Well, one of the one

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of the core pillars of liberalism is religious tolerance. And

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that's why for many decades people have felt like they

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couldn't speak out against having this kind of barbaric medieval

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religion coming into our homelands because well, you're being religiously intolerant,

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and that's one of our values. And that's why I say,

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you know, people are finally starting to find their confidence

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and say, well, actually, no, we don't want Islam here.

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and you're starting to see Muslims politically organize and start

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to get elected into our House of Commons, and a

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lot of people are very very much alarmed about that.

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whe they're not going to be representing the indigenous population.

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the rich and political class get to remain on top

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and rule in a way that only serves them, and

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it completely demoralizes the rest of us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and again it's specifically a philosophy of worldview that

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believes in child brides and doing these sorts of things.

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that on my channel many times, and the debates I've

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Muslims that are out there. I would like to add

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to get your take on this. I read a good

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bit about the history of the Fabian Socialists in the UK,

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and they had a philosophy early on that classical Marxism

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didn't work and it was time to update it. They

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called it reform Marxism. Early on in the days of

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the interested in Sydney Webb and George Bernard Shaw, and

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the idea was to join it with a very wealthy

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elite class in the West. They recruited people like David Rockefeller,

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people like Henry Ford. Even was very interested in Fabian

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Socialism at one point, so Keir Starmer. Interestingly, I noticed

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that he's very much a Fabian Socialist, a big fan

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of that agenda. Is that a big part of this.

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a geopolitical analyst who said that in his opinion, the

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false conservatives in the UK were some of the biggest

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contributors to the problems in the UK because they really

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had no grounding and they really just were, you know,

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jellyfish that kind of caved to whatever the left wanted

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every ten or fifteen years, you know, they kind of

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moved the goalposts overton windows. Same thing happens with the

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Republicans in America. What role do you think that Fabian

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socialists play in Ker Starmer's ideology.

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Speaker 2: I think a pretty large role absolutely. Kir Starmer is

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a continuation of Tony Blair's legacy of New Labor, which

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is to abandon its.

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Speaker 1: More radical.

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Speaker 2: Working you know, pro working class on the surface sentiments

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of the Labor Party, you know, abandon the kind of

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socialist label and present themselves as more moderate. But actually

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they hold very very radical beliefs. But because they present

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themselves as moderate, people then let their guard down and

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so they then bring in their radical reforms. And that's

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why Great Britain has transformed so fundamentally under New Labor

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rather than Old Labor. And Keir Starmer's very much a

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continuation of that. Again, you know, he's not going to

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be trotting out these overt you know Communist or Marxist statements. No,

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he'll position himself as more moderate and more center, and

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that's how they managed to subvert our society, you know,

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but actually implementing radical policy. Fortunately enough, you know, society's

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declining so quickly that people are starting to abandon the

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Labor Party, which is very good to see. So hopefully

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we'll never get a Labor majority government ever again. But

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for the time being, we're stuck with them, and they

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absolutely are going to implement radical policy, which we'll accelerate

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the decline of our country until we turn it around.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a great book on this that I recommend.

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I've done a few lectures on. It's called the Milner

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Fabian Conspiracy. And really this guy's a Romanian historian. You

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really just chronicles and charts the statements of the Fabians

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themselves of the last century plus, and you know, they

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were some of the early in the UK to say

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we have to replace the existing Christian population in the West,

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which are predominantly white, and we're going to do that

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by importing any other foreign groups that have a countrary ideology.

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It just so happened at the turn of the century.

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first kind of easy way in because Sufism tends to

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be more syncretous and more open. And then later on

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it took on more and more of a radical Islamic

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philosophy with Sunni and Hobby and all of that. And

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it was very Islamic. I'll say so, I mean, I

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can't imagine. I mean, my wife had she went to

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London in two thousand and three, and so she said

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she didn't recognize the country in twenty eighteen nineteen when

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we went, because it was basically Londonistan. So I don't

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know if you do you think what am I trying

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to say? Do you think that the that Islam is

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the perfect skeleton key perhaps for not just the UK,

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but also that you you know, to bring in this

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ideology to essentially destroy it. I don't know if you

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remember General or General Wesley Clark, but he was when

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he was at NATO. He said that it would be

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absolutely necessary for NATO to destroy the existing European countries

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and opening the borders would be the key way to

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do that.

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Speaker 2: Well, certainly one of the issues we're having is that

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because obviously the crimes that are coming from the Islamic

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community in Western countries are you know, like the terrorism,

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like the gang rate and stuff like this, that people

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can sometimes get so focused on Islam that they think, oh, well,

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if we just remove the Muslims, then everything would be fine.

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people en mass into our countries and that's equally just

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as destabilizing. So, you know, you get everybody up in

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arms about Islam, but actually the problem is the fact

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that we're just being demographically replaced by people that aren't us,

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that aren't our own people. It doesn't actually, you know,

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Islam is a huge concern. Of course, Islamism is a

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huge concern, But I'm concerned overall at the fact that say,

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the English people are being made a minority in England

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by people who aren't English, regardless of their religion. I

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am totally opposed to that, and that will cause nothing

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but trouble.

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Speaker 1: What are some of the other groups besides Pakistani that

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have been large scale imported.

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Speaker 2: Well, of course we've got Third world migration, so we've

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got migration from Sub Saharan Africa, so you see, this

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phenomena of knife crime and gang culture is a real

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issue in places like London, so people, you know, people

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no longer safe. They can't even walk the streets without

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potentially having their phone or watch stolen.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I was just speaking to one of my colleagues in

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the party, and who's telling me about how in his

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town just the other day, you know, a Sub Saharan

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migrant just went up to two people at a bus

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stop and just decided to stab them in the neck.

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were just ordinary people just waiting at a bus stop

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and they got stabbed, you know. And these are the

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kinds of insane, barbaric, mindless criminality that we're importing into

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our country.

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Speaker 1: And for what reason, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Because it makes progressive liberals feel good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I met with a bookstore owner and I

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think at about twenty nineteen, and I noticed that in Nashville, Tennessee,

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we had a massive importation of Somalians. Why would we

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have Somalians apported to Nashville, Tennessee? And I met this

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liberal bookstore owner who pointed out that well, I worked,

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He said, I work for an NGO and that's you know,

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what was the virtuous thing to do. We had to

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help and bring all these Somalians here because we're a

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NGO that's helping people, but it's not helping people to

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destroy your people and to destroy your society and your community.

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And since twenty nineteen, you know, National has changed tremendously

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from being a kind of a small southern big town

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to now growing into more like Austin, Texas, with a

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much more diverse population which includes probably soon other African groups.

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Speaker 2: Funny you mentioned Somali because in Great Britain, the majority

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of Somali immigrants are on welfare. They don't work. We're

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literally importing these people from third world countries do not work.

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We're often told, do we need these people to boost

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the GDP, to contributes to economy. You've got certain diasporas

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that literally the majority of them don't contribute anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's exactly the same in the US. In fact,

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I have a friend in Ecuador and he was telling

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me last year that the Biden administration was putting up

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ads throughout throughout Latin South America for migrants to come

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to the US. Mediate job being a trucker or EBT cards,

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which is welfare. Uh So they're even advertising in other

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countries to do this. And being Biden said when he

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before he was elected to storm the border to those

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in Latin and South America. So it's it's the same

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strategy in the UK, Europe and the US. And and

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to back up your point about the Africans that we

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went to Italy last year and we went to places

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like Genoa and I didn't recognize any native Italians, not one.

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And in the entire city of Genoa, Italy, there was

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no Italians. It was all Pakistanis and it was Africans.

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And you know, you've had thousands of people from Africa

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get off boats onto the islands off the coast of Italy.

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And I would imagine it's the same in the UK.

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And the NGOs play a big role in this. That's

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what I wanted to get to next. You know, Soros,

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not just Soros, other countries and their NGOs play a

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key role in this as well, which seems to be

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very international and organized.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, we've in the UK we've had this problem

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of the small boat's crisis, where basically just unauthorized immigrants

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have been crossing the English Channel and rocking up on

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our shores. And then the government then puts these people

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in free four and five star hotels and then basically

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it's just rubber stamping them all for asylum. And as

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you know, there's this problem where they just throw away

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their documents so we don't know who they are, but

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we just grant them asylum and then of course they're

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just going to live off welfare. And it's just it's

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literally national suicide. And obviously the NGOs have a part

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to play in that. They obviously help these migrants with

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the dinghies and what have you. And you get all

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of this fluff from the politicians about oh, we've got

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to crack down on the criminal gangs. But it's all

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well and good saying that, and even if you do

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arrest some of them, it's so lucrative, and of course

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you've got these international billionaires like Sauros will just keep

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funding and founding new ngngos. So you know, that's not

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the way to deal with it. The way to do

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it is to enforce your borders to have zero tolerance.

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If you come into our country, you are not being

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granted asylum, we will send you back, that's how you

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do with it. None of this nonsense about oh well,

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well we will prosecute the criminal gangs because more will

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just crop up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so many other countries that the people in

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the West who are left as like to point to,

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like China or something like that, that they do not

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have open borders. They have very restrictive borders, even countries

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in Latin North America, Latin America, very very restrictive policies.

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Yet we're supposed to in the West because of being

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browbeaten with fake guilt, just allow anybody, all numbers of people,

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and it's all paid for by the taxpayers. And as

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you pointed out, it actually ties into criminal gangs and

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human trafficking. And know in America we've seen the Roman

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Catholic Church in some sectors and certain archbishops actually colluding

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with some of the NGOs to foster human trafficking. I mean,

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I'm assuming it's probably going on in the UK as.

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Speaker 2: Well, most likely. Yeah. You know, Elon Musk did a

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space yesterday with the leader of the AfD and one

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of the things he pointed out is, you know, you've

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not just got the problem of the NGOs, but the

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fact that the law isn't enforced. So people like Saros

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recognize this and exploit this. You know, they deliberately lobby

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so that our governments can't function and can't do their

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basic role of governance and providing security and protection for

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the cities. And you know, we've got the laws. The

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laws exist to stop the grooming gangs, to stop the

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illegal immigration, but they're not enforced. And there's so many

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layers of bureaucracy that the politicians use as an excuse

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of oh, well, we can't act on it. Oh we

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can't do this, and we can't do that. Where you can,

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but you just won't because you're corrupt and you want

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this to continue, whether it's because you're serving special interests

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or you're ideologically invested. And that's why we need a

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new elite, a patriotic elite who don't want to destroy

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their own country.

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Speaker 1: What would your messes be to people in the US

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who have the exact same problem as you, You know,

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what is the message? What is the platform of the

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Homeland Party? And maybe you would like to inspire, you know,

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people in the US to also perhaps start parties like

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that as well. What's the platform and messages that you

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guys have well.

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Speaker 2: So one of the things that the United States and

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the United Kings and share is that we have first

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past the post electoral systems, so we don't have proportional representation.

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Obviously in your country you have states and what have you.

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And in our country we have seats in Westminster where

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a representative wins that seat for the constituencies. And this

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leads to this problem of basically having two main parties

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always dominate and it's always very difficult for smaller parties

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to get a foothold. What the Homeland Party is doing

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is we promote community politics and we work with the

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system as it is. You know, we promote candidates in

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these areas and they work their ward and they build

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up a reputation and they build goodwill with their electorate

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so that they can then get a good vote and

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hopefully win the seat so that they can actually make

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it into the House of Commons eventually. Because you've got

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other parties like Reform UK, which you may be aware of.

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You know, they want to win just by having millionaires

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donate to them. They have flashy pr and then they

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hope to win just through sheer national popularity. Whereas obviously

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we're genuine, we're grassroots, and we're actually radical and have

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the solution, so we don't have that luxury