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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to KFI AM six forty the Bill Handles

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<v Speaker 1>show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty Bill Handle here on a Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of drizzly Thursday, September nineteenth. And it was only

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<v Speaker 1>a few days ago when it was what one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifteen hundred and eighteen in Whitland Hills. Boy, weather

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<v Speaker 1>it's changing rather rapidly, isn't it. Hey, how's the weather

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<v Speaker 1>out there or what?

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<v Speaker 2>Any of that?

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of conversation there now right kind of

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<v Speaker 1>that's one thing about climate change. It really does make

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation about weather a little more interesting. Okay, let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you one of the reasons why Sheriff Villanueva

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<v Speaker 1>is no longer the sheriff of La County because the

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<v Speaker 1>current Sheriff, Robert Luna, just announced that there is now

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<v Speaker 1>a formal policy banning those deputy gangs or clicks of

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<v Speaker 1>sheriff's deputies. There was a Loyal Law School report and

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<v Speaker 1>that was published on January thirteenth, twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going back three.

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<v Speaker 1>Years traces a fifty year history of deputy gangs within

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<v Speaker 1>La County.

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<v Speaker 2>Sheriff's department.

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<v Speaker 1>And how do we know those gangs because they have tattoos.

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<v Speaker 2>On their arms. It's like.

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<v Speaker 1>Their shoulders or their wrists or whatever they hell, now,

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<v Speaker 1>now the police department is going to be tatted up

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<v Speaker 1>like crazy. It doesn't matter because the world the tattoos

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<v Speaker 1>is very different than it was ten twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's what viielland Waves said.

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<v Speaker 1>These sheriffs who had these tattoos that signified there was

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<v Speaker 1>a gang, they really weren't gangs. They were like bowling clubs.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like softball teams. Okay, by the way, were

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<v Speaker 1>there any softball teams or bowling teams among those deputies?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, And so new policy within the sheriff's department saying, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to get rid of that one.

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<v Speaker 2>We're banning all of this. Here's a Luna quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Our employees are dedicated professionals who maintained the highest standards

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<v Speaker 1>of integrity and service.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so for the most part, the overwhelming.

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<v Speaker 1>Number, I recognize the issue of law enforcement gangs has

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<v Speaker 1>only involved a small fraction of the department. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is where Vanueva said they didn't exist at all. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he was wrong clearly, so, Luna says, I also acknowledge

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<v Speaker 1>that this long standing issue must be addressed appropriately to

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<v Speaker 1>maintain the community's trust in US. Couldn't agree with him

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<v Speaker 1>more because right now the trust in police departments, I

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<v Speaker 1>won't say, is that a low ebb. The Black Lives

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<v Speaker 1>Matter movement came in, and I think the trust for

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<v Speaker 1>cops was at the lowest ab there.

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<v Speaker 2>It has come back. The pendulum is swinging.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I I've always been incredibly pro pro police,

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<v Speaker 1>and you could be pro police and still recognize there

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<v Speaker 1>are bad apples. You tell me in any field, in

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<v Speaker 1>any area of society where there aren't rogues. The problem

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<v Speaker 1>is when you have rogues that are in the police department,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of harm is called well caused. Well no, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>when you have rogues that do brain surgery, that's more

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<v Speaker 1>harm to the individual. But for the most part, bad

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<v Speaker 1>cops are bad cops. There's so few of them. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>root them out instead of doing this broad brush and

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<v Speaker 1>certainly when they are found, you can't have a sheriff

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<v Speaker 1>for a police chief saying oh no, no, they don't exist.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's for political purposes. I can't imagine other than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's because VI on the web. He was head

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<v Speaker 1>of a department and you didn't want to admit that

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<v Speaker 1>there was anything wrong. And the sheriff, Alex fin we

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<v Speaker 1>have a outplayed even just said it didn't happen. County

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<v Speaker 1>leaders the board of supervisors said we have a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Nope, we don't. Critics have alleged for years that the

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<v Speaker 2>gangs do exist. Nope.

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<v Speaker 1>And so there were tattoos indicating that they were part

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<v Speaker 1>of organizations like the Cavemen, the Executioners, bandidos.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you know, what can I tell you?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you have that, the first thing I

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<v Speaker 1>think of is maybe there's a gang there. You know, Neil,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you have a big tattoo of Mickey Mouse smiling.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't mean you're in a gang. I do not, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>I do not. I do have a big tattoo of

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<v Speaker 2>Harry Houdini, you do, and it's a really neat tattoo.

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<v Speaker 2>It's on his calf.

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<v Speaker 1>And occasionally what sometimes you see is sometimes you don't

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<v Speaker 1>because it disappears and it does a good job of

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<v Speaker 1>coming in and out it escapes. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the actual on you surprised me. I'm not you

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<v Speaker 2>see you being funny.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay, Well, thank you for that, Neil, And NEI

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<v Speaker 1>only thinks he's gonna be tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>You're dreaming. Anyway, there were.

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<v Speaker 1>Fights, there were bar fights. And the point is is

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<v Speaker 1>the Robert Luna has as head of the department, done

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<v Speaker 1>two things. Number one, recognized there was a real problem

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<v Speaker 1>with Alex feeing the way but not even recognizing it

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<v Speaker 1>or not saying anything about it or pooh pooing it

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<v Speaker 1>or sweeping under the rug. And number two, he's done

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<v Speaker 1>something about it. This policy now says this will stop.

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<v Speaker 1>You cannot be a member at all disciplinary actions. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he's gonna throw them out. I mean they'll be

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<v Speaker 1>hearings throwing them out. You can't be a member. And

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<v Speaker 1>on top of that, you cannot shut up about it

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<v Speaker 1>if you know someone is a member.

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<v Speaker 2>So he has finally come down.

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<v Speaker 1>This policy was unveiled yesterday and finally the.

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<v Speaker 2>Sheriff's department dealing with this issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the interesting part about this, at least I find

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<v Speaker 1>this interesting, is this has been going.

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<v Speaker 2>On for fifty years.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the Loyola Law School report that was published

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<v Speaker 1>three and a half years ago, it's fifty years of

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<v Speaker 1>this well, at least Luna is coming to the table.

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<v Speaker 1>When's he up for reelection? By the way, is it November?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so that he is coming. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it is November.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't it all right? We're done with that now.

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<v Speaker 1>Some big news yesterday, the Teamsters announced that they will

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<v Speaker 1>not endorse either Trump or Harris in the presidential and

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump said that is a win for him, which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, I don't disagree with. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>right on why because the Teamsters religiously endorse the Democrat.

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<v Speaker 1>Last time Democrat was not endorsed, and I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a Republican being endorsed, but there was no endorsement. Was

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton when he ran. That's how long ago it was,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like thirty years ago. So this is huge

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<v Speaker 1>news on this one. So the union said it was

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<v Speaker 1>left with few commitments. On the top of the Teamsters

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<v Speaker 1>issues with either former President Trump or Vice President Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>Found no support, no definitive support among its members for

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<v Speaker 2>Actually that's not true.

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<v Speaker 1>It found more support for Donald Trump than it did

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<v Speaker 1>for Harris. And I'm going to talk about that in

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, because I'm sitting here just not understanding this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm stunned by this.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I have an idea of why.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Teamsters represent freight drivers and warehouse workers said no,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you to this at all. Now, unions all over

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<v Speaker 1>the country have already endorsed Kamala Harris. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>only major union that is saying no, and not to Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>but also not to Harris. O'Brien, the president of the Union,

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<v Speaker 1>Sean O'Brien, who went and spoke in front of the

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<v Speaker 1>Republican National Convention. By the way, he tried to speak

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the Democratic National Convention and they said no.

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<v Speaker 2>That may be one of the reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea, but he basically touted Trump, not

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of his political but he says a mean

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<v Speaker 1>sob and he thanked the Republican Convention the RNC for

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<v Speaker 1>allowing him to speak.

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<v Speaker 2>So what is going on here?

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<v Speaker 1>Well ahead of the announcement yesterday, the Union released an

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<v Speaker 1>electronic member poll Trump sixty percent support, Harris thirty four percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there was a separate poll conducted by the

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<v Speaker 1>union fifty eight percent for Trump, thirty one percent for

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<v Speaker 1>Harris among Union members, And you go, what the hell

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<v Speaker 1>is going on national polls show that she gets union

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<v Speaker 1>and support.

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<v Speaker 2>What is going on with this? Because Harris comes from.

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<v Speaker 1>An administration, and that is the Biden Harris administration, which

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden has said proudly he is the most pro

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<v Speaker 2>He's right.

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<v Speaker 1>No one refutes that she comes from that. She has

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<v Speaker 1>not refuted it. She has not changed her position. She

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<v Speaker 1>walked the picket lines in favor of unions, she has

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<v Speaker 1>worked for.

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<v Speaker 2>The union pension plans. I mean, this is a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Who you go, how is that possible that she isn't

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<v Speaker 1>getting the endorsement? And then I'm thinking, okay, let's think

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons why. I can really only think of

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<v Speaker 1>one reason, and other than just personal like or dislike.

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<v Speaker 1>But the union members. You don't have the president of

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<v Speaker 1>the Teamsters or any union saying, you know what, we're

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<v Speaker 1>endorsing Harris or Trump because we just like them more,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a likability issue. You don't hear that from the unions.

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<v Speaker 1>So here I'm trying to figure out what is going

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<v Speaker 1>on because at first glance, Harris is much more pro

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<v Speaker 1>union than Trump. But here, especially after Trump with that

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk interview where he congratulated Musk for basically saying

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<v Speaker 1>union members, you fire them.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the greatest thing in the world. You

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<v Speaker 2>show them someone doesn't like the way you're doing your business,

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<v Speaker 2>you fire them, and you did, and I think that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>So why would Trump get that kind of support? And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is because he is pushing the tariffs.

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<v Speaker 1>He is saying, we are going to tariff the hell

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<v Speaker 1>out of anything made overseas to where we're going. If

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<v Speaker 1>we want to buy something, it's going to be American

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<v Speaker 1>workers who manufacture it.

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<v Speaker 2>That is powerful stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're looking at which way, if I'm working

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<v Speaker 1>and I see a potential president who says, I really

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<v Speaker 1>am protecting you, and here is how I'm protecting you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to make sure that all that stuff that's

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<v Speaker 1>made overseas will not be here. We cannot buy it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I'm protecting your jobs. That resonates. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that resonates. Is that the reason, Well, we're not given

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<v Speaker 1>the reason. You know, you'll hear a labor analysts give

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<v Speaker 1>you tons of reason, But at first glance, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>That's the only thing I can think of because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't get it. I don't get how sixty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the teamsters are supporting Trump other than that, well, some.

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<v Speaker 2>Of them just like the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there are plenty of people that I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you one thing. People who like Trump like Trump a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more than people who like Harris.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Trump's supporters are on a level that I've

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<v Speaker 1>never seen before ever. You know, where I live, across

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<v Speaker 1>the street they are a couple of Trump supporters and

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<v Speaker 1>I drive down the street where they have an American flag. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>now the American flag equals supporting Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get that either.

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<v Speaker 1>But Trump flags, and I mean Trump flags that you

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<v Speaker 1>you don't see that anyplace else. And so I think

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<v Speaker 1>that terrorf issue is a lot of the reason.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll find out. We're gonna see.

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<v Speaker 1>We only we have less than a couple of months

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, what a run this is going to be. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>what a presidential we're going to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Going back to the year two thousand and By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>were five years old, born in nineteen ninety five, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't alone. About over a million people one point

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<v Speaker 1>three million vans were sold last year. That figure is

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<v Speaker 1>down eighty percent. There used to be a dozen manufactures.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's only four Chrysler, Honda, Toyota, and Kia, and

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<v Speaker 2>So what happened to the minivan, Well, it was always

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<v Speaker 2>kind of ugly.

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<v Speaker 1>It was always kind of boxy, and you sort of

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<v Speaker 2>You simply had to have it.

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<v Speaker 1>You have the cup holders getting in and out, with

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<v Speaker 1>the sliding door. It was just the perfect vehicle for

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<v Speaker 1>moms or families, and I was one of those moms.

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<v Speaker 2>It was popular, but I'll tell you what it never was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was never cool.

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<v Speaker 1>The first one came out in nineteen eighty three, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is when Leiahkoca, who had run Forward, came onto

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<v Speaker 1>Chrysler and he saved Chrysler. It's one of the few

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<v Speaker 1>times the government came in loan money to a major

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<v Speaker 1>corporation and the money was paid back early and the

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<v Speaker 1>government actually made money. I don't know the last time

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<v Speaker 1>that happened, but it broke all kinds of new ground.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Leiacca. They came up with this. He had

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<v Speaker 1>There was I mean, before that, you had the big

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<v Speaker 1>box utility vehicles, the vans, full size vans, or you

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<v Speaker 1>had the station wagons.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember those.

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up with those, and it's just not the same. Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>the minivan was the answer. And the initial two models

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<v Speaker 1>that Chrysler sold, the Dodge Caravan and the Plymouth Foyaguer.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me put it this way.

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<v Speaker 1>Overall mini minivan sales that year or that decade, by

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the decade reached seven hundred thousand a year.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that is pretty impressive. But again, it wasn't cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of ugly. And then what came around

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<v Speaker 2>Part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was one of the population where I just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>care about my kids anymore. I don't care walk, take

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<v Speaker 1>a bike, drive a motorcycle. I'm fine with that, But

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<v Speaker 1>what really killed the minivan.

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<v Speaker 2>Was the suv.

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<v Speaker 1>The suv came into existence and that effectively wiped out

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<v Speaker 1>the minivan.

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<v Speaker 2>And look at how many sedans.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you see versus or versus SUVs out there or crossovers.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and if you buy a car today, a

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<v Speaker 1>sedan will cost you thousands of dollars less than the

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<v Speaker 2>I bought my first suv.

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<v Speaker 1>I went from a minivan to sedan's because my kids, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was my wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Who ended up driving the kids all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>I really was in the soccer mom.

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<v Speaker 1>And my kids never played soccer, and the places that

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<v Speaker 1>we took our kids I don't even remember. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was the minivan. You know what I thought the best

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<v Speaker 1>thing about minivan's cup holders. I thought that was such

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<v Speaker 1>a great idea. I mean, there aren't enough cup holders

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<v Speaker 1>in any vehicle. You know, I have an SUV, my

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<v Speaker 1>EV and BMW and you know Germans and this is

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<v Speaker 1>made in Germany. I guess they don't drink on the road.

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<v Speaker 1>There are two cup holders and you have to reach

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<v Speaker 1>under and grab them. I don't understand that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>think it's great car, but they don't drink. And American

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<v Speaker 1>cars now have a bunch of cup holders that started

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<v Speaker 2>So the minivan is kind of dead.

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<v Speaker 1>They're done, and it's sort of a you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of look on it nostalgically, you know, because that

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<v Speaker 1>was a big part of my life for a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of years when my little ones were little. Okay, talk

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<v Speaker 1>about entertaining. The last presidential debate between Kamala Harris and

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump was a hoot, and probably the most memorable

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<v Speaker 1>part of it was Donald Trump saying in Springfield, they're

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<v Speaker 1>eating the dogs, the people that came in, They're eating

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<v Speaker 1>the cats, they're eating the pets, the people that live there.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, why not? Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Then that is reference to immigration, clearly because Haitians have.

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<v Speaker 2>Moved into Springfield in Illinois. So how did that start?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, a lady but Erica Lee wrote on Facebook a

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<v Speaker 1>post put a post up that she had heard that

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<v Speaker 1>a neighbor's cat had disappeared and that one of their

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<v Speaker 1>Haitian neighbors might have taken the animal. So she posted

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<v Speaker 1>this rumor on Facebook, they're eating their cats, They're eating

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<v Speaker 1>the dogs. And then she decided after posting. She decides

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to her neighbor and asks for proof. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>she posts the rumor and then goes to the neighbor

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<v Speaker 1>and go, I'd like some proof. Well, it turned out

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<v Speaker 1>that that cat who had gone missing wasn't the cat

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<v Speaker 1>of the neighbor's daughter, as she had been told afterwards,

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<v Speaker 1>if there was a cat like that, it belonged to

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<v Speaker 1>a friend of a friend of the neighbor's daughter. And lisays,

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<v Speaker 1>at that point, we're playing the game of telephone. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to reach her because she had personally no information

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<v Speaker 1>about any abducted cats.

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<v Speaker 2>She just posted this rumor that she had heard. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>she's deleted it. She's not very happy with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course that took off like crazy. You talk

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<v Speaker 1>about something that went viral. Also to the point where

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<v Speaker 1>the president or former president is saying, as a political statement,

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<v Speaker 1>the Haitians in Springfield, Ohio are eating the pets, they're

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<v Speaker 1>eating the dogs, they're eating the cats, and you would

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<v Speaker 1>sort of shake your head and go, really, no, not really,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how crazy this presidential has become. Jd Vance pops

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<v Speaker 1>in and effectively admits number one that it's not true,

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<v Speaker 1>and two defends it.

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<v Speaker 2>If I have to make up.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff that's not true to get America's attention, I will

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<v Speaker 1>do that.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we going back to the Democrats are eating kids?

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<v Speaker 1>There are these pedophile groups of Democrat congress people under

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<v Speaker 1>a pizza parlor that are eating children, sacrificing little ones. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess if that's what it takes. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the local authorities in Springfield have gone nuts. They've debunked it.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the problem is that the threats have now

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<v Speaker 1>come in in Springfield. They've shut down hospitals, shut down

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<v Speaker 1>the schools.

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<v Speaker 2>They're reeling with this. And of course JD.

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<v Speaker 1>Van said, Hey, that had nothing to do with it,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, the threats that had nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with us. Now, is it true that there are

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<v Speaker 1>Haitians in Springfield? You bet fifteen to twenty thousand being

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<v Speaker 1>called illegal.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not illegal. They're there legally because of the asylum program.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you can argue politically asylum, yes, asylum, no, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a legitimate argument. But don't tell me they're there illegally

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<v Speaker 1>when they are there legally. Okay, that is just dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter to argue that

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<v Speaker 1>immigration is a horrible thing, which, by the way, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people do. And I am more in favor

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<v Speaker 1>of curtailing immigration than I am in allowing large numbers

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<v Speaker 1>of people in. I think the whole asylum program is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of crazy, and even the Biden administration has cut

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<v Speaker 1>way down on it because.

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<v Speaker 2>It's politically it's non palatable.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that I would allow more asylum seekers

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<v Speaker 1>if he could, because that's just his thinking. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a big jump from too many Haitians who are

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<v Speaker 1>there illegally and they're not that are destroying the city

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<v Speaker 1>while all the city officials say, no, they get here legally.

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<v Speaker 2>The employers love them.

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<v Speaker 1>Now are the city services overwhelmed, Yeah, they're straining. But

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<v Speaker 1>put all of that together and go forward with those

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<v Speaker 1>Haitian immigrants are eating.

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<v Speaker 2>The dogs and cats. I mean, even for those of

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<v Speaker 2>you that are not.

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<v Speaker 1>Particularly Kamala Harris fans, all right, and you are going

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<v Speaker 1>to go the other way. Really, So one of two things. One,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter what's being said. Oh by that, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. Your politics are your politics, and you're voting

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<v Speaker 1>the way you're voting, and this is just all fluff.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just part of the ridiculous statements that are

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<v Speaker 1>made this presidential or even worse, you actually believe they're

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<v Speaker 1>eating the dogs and cats, and please don't say that,

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<v Speaker 1>so please. I can't imagine a large swath of America

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<v Speaker 1>believing that dogs and cats are being eaten in Springfield,

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<v Speaker 1>at least I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So what's the bottom? What's the takeaway here?

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<v Speaker 1>The woman, the one woman who started that rumor said oops, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a friend of a friend who actually

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<v Speaker 1>she found out started it and she posted it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it just exploded. Boy. I'd like to start a rumor.

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<v Speaker 1>What if I say I saw a Martian who just

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<v Speaker 1>came out of a meeting with Kamala Harris, and would

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<v Speaker 1>that explode saying, oh my god, she has aliens that

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<v Speaker 1>are now going to be part of her administration if

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know the answer of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Would that go viral? We should try it and start

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<v Speaker 1>that rumor, would you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on it, okay that I want.

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<v Speaker 1>You to post that I saw Kamala Harris, or I

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<v Speaker 1>saw a Martian leave a meeting with her and say

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do everything in my power to get

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<v Speaker 1>her elected so we're going to post that and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens. God, I hope that rumor goes. And

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<v Speaker 1>then maybe Kamala Harris had a love child with Elvis.

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<v Speaker 2>That's another one. There's a lot we can do with

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<v Speaker 2>all of that.

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