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<v Speaker 1>Si dot Com came out with what they consider to

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<v Speaker 1>be their first and second team All Pro teams. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not Etcheton Stone all right, This isn't the vote yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought it was interesting. How many Lions do

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<v Speaker 1>you think offensively and defensively are All Pro worthy? This

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<v Speaker 1>is different than the Pro Bowl, you know it. Pro

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl is a third of the fan vote, a third

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<v Speaker 1>of the player vote, a third of the coaches vote.

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<v Speaker 1>We've already seen who is on the Pro Bowl. We

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<v Speaker 1>know Jared Goff and aman Ros saying Brown. We know

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are head of the Pro Bowl, Penny Soubell,

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<v Speaker 1>so on and so forth. We know Kirby Joseph got

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<v Speaker 1>screwed on that he's a second alternate. My question to

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<v Speaker 1>you is who is an All Pro? That means there

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<v Speaker 1>is one quarterback for first team offense. That means there

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<v Speaker 1>are two running backs, one running back, one fullback. You

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<v Speaker 1>take each position, you get the best at that position,

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<v Speaker 1>first team, the second best, and then the third best.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you have. A first team, a second team,

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<v Speaker 1>into third team, all right, and there's one for the

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<v Speaker 1>NFC and AFC. Correct correct? So give me in your no.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, no, it's that's combined. It's combined. There's only one.

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<v Speaker 1>There's one quarterback. All Pro is one quarterback. Who's the

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<v Speaker 1>best quarterback in twenty twenty four slash twenty five? How

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<v Speaker 1>many Lions do you think are on this list objectively?

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<v Speaker 2>Please? All right, that's what I want to know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll start with the obvious. Penny Swell will be on there.

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<v Speaker 3>I would like to think Frank raganw is the top

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<v Speaker 3>three center. Then after that you really got to be objective.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Jamior Gibb should be on there. Leading the

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<v Speaker 3>league in touchdowns, the production he had, I think he

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<v Speaker 3>should be on there. I put him behind only Saquan

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<v Speaker 3>m Golf wouldn't be because the other guys probably have

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<v Speaker 3>gutier numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, well, hold on, hold on, hold on, guard your numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>or are they're better quarterbacks?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, probably a little bit of both. I'm saying. The

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<v Speaker 3>three guys that made the Pro Bowl I think will

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<v Speaker 3>probably be the three that are going to be al

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<v Speaker 3>Pro Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 3>would say they're all better quarterbacks as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, oh okay, yeah, all right, good, all right, So

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<v Speaker 1>the objectivity is definitely there for you. Okay, Because I

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<v Speaker 1>asked you yesterday, I said, give me the guys who

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<v Speaker 1>you trust from a quarterback standpoint.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't mention Jared.

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<v Speaker 3>Goff not at the top top.

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<v Speaker 1>No. So when you say God to your numbers, it's

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<v Speaker 1>almost like, well, I guess they're there only because they

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<v Speaker 1>have gud to your numbers. Now they're better quarterbacks, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay. He's I'll take him, man, I love him.

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<v Speaker 1>But Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow are

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<v Speaker 1>the elite quarterbacks in the National Football League.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's fair to say. And that's it's okay

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<v Speaker 2>to say.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, if there's only three spots, I picked those three,

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<v Speaker 3>and there you had to be a fourth spot. Mahomes

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<v Speaker 3>would probably get that before it. Jared Goffwood maybe so.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean based on this year, maybe not, but you

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<v Speaker 1>would take him before.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, they would take talking about seasons pro team, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, and that's all we're doing. So you're right

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<v Speaker 2>about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Here here's the this is according to s I right,

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<v Speaker 1>you're ready tell no. I want you to like buzz

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as you tell me. As soon as I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you who the first team is if you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with him, Okay, Josh Allen quarterback, Saquon Barkley

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<v Speaker 1>running back, Kyle Yuschek full back, Not.

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<v Speaker 2>That you care.

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<v Speaker 1>Wide receivers Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, I'm on Ross Saint

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<v Speaker 1>Brown love it.

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<v Speaker 3>If he was going to make it, it would be

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<v Speaker 3>at that three spot, and I think he's earned that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, No, they're just taking three wide receivers. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a it's not a spot. It's three wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 3>I know. I'm just I'm to me. Chase and Jefferson

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<v Speaker 3>are the two locks. And then if you had to

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<v Speaker 3>pick a third, because there's there's three spots, I think

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<v Speaker 3>Save Brown has earned that more than any other receiver.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know in what order they chose them. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just giving you the three, that's all. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they ranked them. But I tend to agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah for sure, tight end brock Bowers so no buzzes yet,

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<v Speaker 1>right and right for you? So offensive line, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how much you care about Dion Dawkins of Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 1>Penny Sewell is there, and then that's it for Lions.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to you know, Creed Humphrey, Are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to argue Creed Humphrey as a center?

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<v Speaker 2>I doubt it.

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<v Speaker 1>With Kansas City pretty damn good though, and wasn't all

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<v Speaker 1>Pro and twenty twenty two all right? Second team offense ready,

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<v Speaker 1>Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry Patrick, Ricard, three Ravens. Right in

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<v Speaker 1>a row there, wide receiver, Ceed lamb A. J. Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>Terry McLaurin, tight end, Trey McBride. That might make me

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<v Speaker 1>as happy as anything because he had an unbelievable year. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>My fear was, oh my god, Travis Kelsey please, Trey

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<v Speaker 1>McBride was great. Frank Ragnow is the center?

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<v Speaker 3>Nice?

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<v Speaker 1>So that's it for offense, Second team offense for Lions

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<v Speaker 1>Honorable mention or a third team Joe Burrow, Jamiir Gibbs,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Burton, former Lion, Kevin Zeitler offensive lineman. So you

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<v Speaker 1>have three offensive linemen who are considered All Pro. Pretty

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<v Speaker 1>damn good. Right, You've got a wide receiver, You've got

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<v Speaker 1>a running back that's probably that's in line with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that tracks with what this Lions team

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<v Speaker 3>has done this year, what they're built on, how they

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<v Speaker 3>win games.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes sense to me. I think it makes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of sense. I think it's very very objective. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it makes a lot of sense. First team defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anybody on the Lions you think is worthy

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<v Speaker 1>of first team defense consideration?

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<v Speaker 3>Hutchinson would have been, you got hurt, so no.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Hutchinson. Actually I read something the other day. Hutchinson would,

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<v Speaker 1>according to Pro Football Focus, would end the year with

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<v Speaker 1>the highest defensive end rating in one of their key categories.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though you know he's been out since Week six,

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<v Speaker 1>Week seven, whatever it may be, you would be wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a player who is first team All Pro

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<v Speaker 1>Defense according to SI dot com. The edge rushers are TJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Watt Miles Garrett. Trey Hendrickson would have been pretty tough

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<v Speaker 1>to break through on that, but the way Aiden Hutchinson

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<v Speaker 1>was playing, he absolutely was tracking that way. Those at

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<v Speaker 1>least two with t J. Watt and Miles Garrett. Those

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<v Speaker 1>guys are Hall of famers.

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<v Speaker 2>They are.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Trey Hendrickson is a hell of a player.

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<v Speaker 1>He led the league last year in sacks and he

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<v Speaker 1>is He's been unbelievable again this year. He's a hell

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<v Speaker 1>of a player, man, he really is. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he gets nearly enough credit. Chris Jones, Cameron Hayward. Inside guys, linebacker,

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Bonn, Rocan Smith, cornerbacks, Patrick Sartan, Trent McDuffie, Derwin James,

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<v Speaker 1>Xavier McKinney.

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<v Speaker 2>At safety, Brian.

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<v Speaker 1>Branch is who they put in there as an all pro.

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<v Speaker 1>They write, Lions got it right when they moved Branch

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<v Speaker 1>from slock corner to safety. He's pretty damn good as

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<v Speaker 1>a slot corner. Last year, team's way of keeping the

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<v Speaker 1>second year stand out on the field for nearly every

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<v Speaker 1>defensive play, the versatile Branch recorded force one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>nine total tackles, eight tackles for loss.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't it funny how that word versatila is kind of

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<v Speaker 3>tied to Brian Branch whenever you hear about him. Rightfully, so,

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<v Speaker 3>I think, but that just sticks just because of the

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<v Speaker 3>position move You think, yeah, he's able to move around

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<v Speaker 3>on the field. He's able to play that position if

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<v Speaker 3>you need him to slide back to the nickel.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not many guys who go from corner to safety

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<v Speaker 1>and have great success. Obviously, Ronnie Lott did it, Charles

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<v Speaker 1>Woodson did it, Mel Blunt did it. In the past.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Donnie Shell did it with those Pittsburgh teams.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not comparing Brian Branch to those Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Fame players. I'm saying it. It takes a special talent.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are two very different positions, and I think Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Branch to make that seamless transition has been pretty It

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<v Speaker 1>tells you how great of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we always talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's I'm not saying Brown taken in the fourth round,

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<v Speaker 1>the Brian Branch pick was one of the best picks

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<v Speaker 1>Brad Holmes has ever made. Simply spectacular. Second team defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think there is any lion on the second

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<v Speaker 1>team defense or or audible mention? I'll just group it

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<v Speaker 1>all together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Alie McNeil will be in there somewhere, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think Kirby Joseph will be in there somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Alie McNeil was not, but Kirby Joseph was. He was

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<v Speaker 1>second team All Pro. So good for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess right, it sure is.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't mean when you go to Pro Football Reference

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com that you're going to have Pro Bowl next

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<v Speaker 1>to their All Pro next to their name, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>SI dot Com. But it does look national opinion, whether

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<v Speaker 1>we like it or not, and I don't always like it.

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<v Speaker 2>National opinion matters.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you see people recognizing your team and how

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<v Speaker 1>good they are or how could they've become, then I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's something to be said for That. Doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>they're always right, because a lot of these websites had

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota beating Detroit, so they were wrong there.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, but also it's a basis to work off. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>when these all pro selections do come out, you and

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<v Speaker 3>I can look back on this article and see how

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<v Speaker 3>close they got to getting it right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and these are the people who are they're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to do this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>They're supposed to be able to recognize this