Speaker 1: Hell. Everybody to the facilities of the iHeartMedia Megaplexus is
Speaker 1: Dick Gabriel. It's a state wide edition of the Big
Speaker 1: Blue in Society. Heard Mark Pope's comments, some telling comments
Speaker 1: as well, or Darren Hedrick and a host of folks
Speaker 1: talking about UK women's basketball, what the year they got
Speaker 1: going as well. It's softball and baseball time as well.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about all of that with Billy Rutligion, Aaron
Speaker 1: gershon here on the state wide BBI from Pikeville to Paduica.
Speaker 1: It is the Big Blue Insider, Dick Gabriel, Billy Rutledge,
Speaker 1: Aaron Gershawan again on a Wednesday. As mister Leech pointed out,
Speaker 1: with the road game on Tuesday, everything slides over. That's
Speaker 1: why we have two games to talk about, neither one
Speaker 1: of them happy experiences. Aaron was at both. Billy produced
Speaker 1: both games on the radio. I was, of course at
Speaker 1: the home game, but not in Oxford, been there before.
Speaker 1: Aaron and I were talking before the game about the
Speaker 1: fact that that's just another arena where trying to become
Speaker 1: more relevant in basketball. They spent money on coaches, on
Speaker 1: facility on the arena, and I was amazed, Aaron, when
Speaker 1: you told me it wasn't No, it was not.
Speaker 2: I mean it was, yes, And there were a lot
Speaker 2: of Kentucky fans. We're talking about Pregame, a lot of
Speaker 2: the folks in western Kentucky. That's an easy road trip.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it wasn't like, it wasn't anything crazy. I
Speaker 2: was going back through some pictures to see like tip
Speaker 2: off crowds and through the my the last three years
Speaker 2: have been to almost every SEC road game outside of LSU.
Speaker 2: Last year that was probably the smallest and not I'm
Speaker 2: taking Vandy out of it, because Kentucky fans packed that place.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was a little bit of a weaker
Speaker 2: crowd than I was expecting, and it was also a
Speaker 2: much weaker effort than I was expecting.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's where I was going. First, we heard
Speaker 1: Pope's comments, and you've written about it, and I've talked
Speaker 1: about it on the radio, and Billy has uh but
Speaker 1: tell me a little bit because you you got firsthand
Speaker 1: knowledge yep about body language.
Speaker 2: Oh not yours, not minors. Theirs wasn't good. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was not good.
Speaker 1: It was look I mean from the beginning, they just
Speaker 1: looked disinterested.
Speaker 2: Last night it was just remember Mark Pope his big
Speaker 2: thing in like the locker room. And then after the
Speaker 2: game against Tennessee last Tuesday was we would there's nowhere
Speaker 2: we'd rather be than right here in Tennessee playing this game.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it was like and they played that way
Speaker 1: right last night.
Speaker 2: It was I'd rather be anywhere but Oxford, Mississippi playing
Speaker 2: this game.
Speaker 1: That's how it looked from the opening tip. They fell
Speaker 1: behind before you can even.
Speaker 2: Watch, like before the it felt like before the ball
Speaker 2: was even tipped, they were down five to nothing. It
Speaker 2: just snowballed so quickly and they're down eleven quickly. And
Speaker 2: end of the first half was when it all boiled over.
Speaker 2: Obviously sixteen three run and the sequence that there are
Speaker 2: a couple of things that stand out, but the sequence
Speaker 2: that kind of summed it up for me is Kobe
Speaker 2: Kentucky couldn't get anything going offensively in the first Obviously
Speaker 2: the defense the main issue, we'll talk about it, but
Speaker 2: the offense Ole missed had switches one through five, they
Speaker 2: give really good looks. Kentucky was confused they had nothing going.
Speaker 2: So Kobe Brea pulls up from past the logo like
Speaker 2: deeper than Trentonoah's three down in Knoxville last week. Expectedly,
Speaker 2: he misses, almost gets an easy rebound. Their little five
Speaker 2: to ten point guard from Saint Peter's, by the way,
Speaker 2: gets that point guard he was on that team. They
Speaker 2: it turns into a transition three where no one on
Speaker 2: Kentucky hustles back. On the other end, Kentucky comes back
Speaker 2: down the floor, they turn it over almost immediately and
Speaker 2: it turns into a transition layup where there was very
Speaker 2: little hustle coming down the floor. That just summed it
Speaker 2: up for me. It was just poor effort.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And when they started Billy baumbing away from three
Speaker 1: and again, as was the case for some guys in
Speaker 1: the Arkansas game, guys who ordinarily don't hit threes were
Speaker 1: thrown them in.
Speaker 3: But they're wide open, standing still wide open.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then even into the second half, when Kentucky's offense
Speaker 3: played better, they were hitting contested threes deep. And you know,
Speaker 3: that was a team that averaged seven threes again and
Speaker 3: they had over that in the first half. And it's
Speaker 3: like this Kentucky defense is not great, you know, back
Speaker 3: to back really bad halves. If you look at the
Speaker 3: second half of the Arkansas game in the first half,
Speaker 3: Ole miss and and it's discouraging because if Tennessee doesn't
Speaker 3: miss thirty four to three.
Speaker 1: Pointers, they lost five in a row.
Speaker 3: You've lost five in a row. It's four or five
Speaker 3: right now. It's just head scratching because this team beats
Speaker 3: Duke and you know they they beat Gonzaga with no
Speaker 3: point guards, and they even going into Knoxville and beat
Speaker 3: Tennessee Florida. But yet, like you know, a lack of
Speaker 3: urgency and effort being questioned. Now it's like these injuries
Speaker 3: have really taken a toll on not only the players Psyche,
Speaker 3: but maybe even the coaches. After we heard Mark Pope
Speaker 3: is bleeding from a hand and breaking furniture. So it's
Speaker 3: this play. This team is in a really weird spot.
Speaker 1: Though he's not taking a lion down. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: he's not all sweetness and light. But when you think
Speaker 1: about it, to your point about Tennessee foolishly jacking up
Speaker 1: forty five threes. If Florida hits free throws, yeah they
Speaker 1: lose that game, but they made enough place to win.
Speaker 1: You've got to give them credit for winning. They beat
Speaker 1: a really good Florida team and a pretty good Tennessee
Speaker 1: team and a good A and M team. That's right.
Speaker 2: So in Mississippi State, like they have really good wins,
Speaker 2: you've got to wonder.
Speaker 1: And some of these are older guys, somemmer kids. Are
Speaker 1: they kind of leaning into well, Lama's not here. We
Speaker 1: don't have our best defender and great defense. Team. Defense
Speaker 1: begins with on ball pressure. Everybody knows that, but you
Speaker 1: watch well. For instance, last night, in the first half,
Speaker 1: Ole miss slid seamlessly into its offense with very little
Speaker 1: Kentucky resistance. And now when they start attacking a bucket,
Speaker 1: they'd start, oh my goodness, we got to guard the
Speaker 1: room too late, and they either get to the rim
Speaker 1: or kick it at for a wide three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I asked after the game with the three,
Speaker 2: I mean, the most glaring thing right now is the
Speaker 2: three point defense the last five games. It's not even
Speaker 2: just the percentage. I did coucut the percentage just thirty
Speaker 2: seven percent and take away all those threes Tennessee hit
Speaker 2: or missed. I should say, yeah, I'd love to see
Speaker 2: it the four games without Tennessee included, but Kentucky's taking
Speaker 2: I think it's one hundred and twenty three three is
Speaker 2: their last five games, opponents have taken one sixty eight. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so they're getting beat at what they want to do
Speaker 2: because they're giving these looks. But point is, I asked
Speaker 2: Mark Pope, is it is it not closing out on
Speaker 2: guys or is it your scouting reports are guys are
Speaker 2: hitting above average? And he said it's a mix of both.
Speaker 2: But that's where you would think with this coaching staff
Speaker 2: that has at times done wonderful jobs just game planning,
Speaker 2: scheming things, would go into halftime and say, look, this
Speaker 2: guy's hot tonight. We have to close out on him,
Speaker 2: and we just haven't seen it. Like Big Z, for example,
Speaker 2: is a forty percent was a forty percent three shooter
Speaker 2: going into that game on Saturday against Arkansas. I think
Speaker 2: he hit a three very early. He hit another three,
Speaker 2: but before the half, there was no adjustment to bring
Speaker 2: guys out on him. They just kind of let him
Speaker 2: have it. It was I don't know if it's a
Speaker 2: lack of effort of bad scouting what it is, but
Speaker 2: it's ugly right now.
Speaker 3: Well, more on what Mark Pope said tonight. I mean
Speaker 3: he was asked if there's a vocal leader on the team,
Speaker 3: and he basically said no, and then the first person
Speaker 3: he talked about was Lamont Butler being the heart and
Speaker 3: soul of the team. And when you don't have your
Speaker 3: heart and soul break, I mean, you can look a
Speaker 3: little lost out there. And I feel like Kentucky's defense
Speaker 3: definitely does look lost at times. I mean, I'm optimistic
Speaker 3: they can improve, but how much can you improve midway
Speaker 3: through the year with.
Speaker 1: A bunch of old guys, A bunch old guys.
Speaker 3: Maybe the game being Saturday at noon will be good
Speaker 3: for these old guys.
Speaker 1: I kind of look at it a little differently. I
Speaker 1: know what you're saying, but I think the old guys
Speaker 1: are better equipped to process stuff because of that experience.
Speaker 1: You know, if this were a bunch of new kids,
Speaker 1: I would wonder, you know, yeah, I mean, they're more
Speaker 1: of a of a blank template. But on the other hand,
Speaker 1: it takes experience to figure things out. And you know,
Speaker 1: these guys have played a lot of basketball, but it's
Speaker 1: it's beyond x's and o's quite frankly, I do think
Speaker 1: it's you know, you wonder, why, why, why in the
Speaker 1: world were they sleepwalking? Oh? In the first part of
Speaker 1: that game.
Speaker 2: They looked again they just looked disinterested. They just did
Speaker 2: not want to be there. It was the first time
Speaker 2: all year were you know, they've had some games where
Speaker 2: they've stunk Georgia, they stunk Ohio State, they stunk. That
Speaker 2: was the first game. I was like, Wow, they just there.
Speaker 2: They're not in it today. They're not mentally there.
Speaker 1: You know. The weirdest stat from the entire game assist
Speaker 1: the turnovers, oh almost turned it on twenty four assists
Speaker 1: one to one turnover and the one who was a
Speaker 1: guy bounced it off his knees. That's right.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't like I've ever seen a stat
Speaker 3: line like that either. And then you add on top
Speaker 3: of that, Ansley Almanor and Trent Noah joined the trillion
Speaker 3: club and played what fifteen minutes and didn't record a single.
Speaker 1: Stat fifteen for aman Or in thirteen for.
Speaker 3: Noah, and Trent no is a guy that had two
Speaker 3: good games back to back. Then he doesn't play in
Speaker 3: the Arkansas. That didn't bother me, and then he plays
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes or thirteen minutes and doesn't do anything there.
Speaker 3: To a degree, it feels like Mark Pope, with the injuries,
Speaker 3: is just throwing lineups out there, he's just trying to admitted.
Speaker 1: Then he's admitted as much. Then you also get the
Speaker 1: fourth triple double in program history. By the way, about that,
Speaker 1: it's like, what happened about that? That's what a weird see.
Speaker 1: I'm watching the Arkansas game and I said to myself, huh, well,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen Noah yet. I wonderful see him. But
Speaker 1: first game, sure, but when you look at what he
Speaker 1: brings his skill set, that wasn't what they needed against Arkansas.
Speaker 1: They needed perimeter defense and I was kind of glad
Speaker 1: to see Chandler out there because he's quicker, you know. Uh,
Speaker 1: And I thought he did okay for you know, for
Speaker 1: a true freshman, and yeah he comes with uh. I
Speaker 1: think he came a trent against a miss because they
Speaker 1: needed a little of everything, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean anything could have been better than what
Speaker 3: we saw in the same after that Arkansas game, So
Speaker 3: maybe you know, I don't know, it's it's you know,
Speaker 3: that was really disappointing. I mean after the environment that
Speaker 3: we saw in rep Arena. And you know, col was
Speaker 3: very gracious, really was. He knew his postgame comments were,
Speaker 3: but I remember.
Speaker 1: The cal well, no he was gracious. I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: don't know if.
Speaker 3: Auburn we're here for something different.
Speaker 1: These people came to see me standing I'm going to
Speaker 1: indeed where we have one, two, three, four, five, six,
Speaker 1: seven All Stars and two left out? Oh my god. No,
Speaker 1: but I was expecting a little bit of that for
Speaker 1: being honest. But you're right.
Speaker 2: He was absolutely gracious. He was classy, he was complimentary,
Speaker 2: and look at the end of the day to his
Speaker 2: team's two and six, So there's not much gloating he
Speaker 2: can really do. But no, he handled it great, and
Speaker 2: so do the players.
Speaker 1: I think. I think Arkansas is a great example of
Speaker 1: addition by subtraction. And that's not a knock on Boogie Flann.
Speaker 1: He's a great player, yeah, and he's going to have
Speaker 1: a nice career. But yeah, what happens after they lose him?
Speaker 1: They're forced to play more of a balanced game, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: But unfortunately for Kentucky you can't say the same about
Speaker 1: when you lose Lamont Butler because he gets you in
Speaker 1: your offense and he starts your defense different, different thing entirely.
Speaker 2: The one thing I do wonder with this team is,
Speaker 2: and I think a talking point on the radio tonight
Speaker 2: was fatigue. Right, Yes, Arkansas, they are very shorthanded. They
Speaker 2: already cow made the mistake of only signing nine guys.
Speaker 2: Then you lose Boogie jonas Ad who's barely been able
Speaker 2: to play. So they're really down to seven and their
Speaker 2: guys are you like.
Speaker 1: And they don't get much from Knox or Richmond.
Speaker 2: Right, DJ played thirty eight in that game, didn't look
Speaker 2: tired at all. Do look thirty played thirty six, didn't
Speaker 2: look tired at all. And then I believe someone else
Speaker 2: played thirty two, thirty five, Janelle Davis, Kentucky's guys, they
Speaker 2: they can't get those minutes from anyone on this team.
Speaker 2: And I just wonder if that's I know, Pope, last
Speaker 2: year by you played eleven guys. Going into this year,
Speaker 2: the plane was to play ten or eleven guys. Maybe
Speaker 2: that's a philosophy thing, but I just feel like this
Speaker 2: team and we saw it even in the Alabama game
Speaker 2: when the Mott was still playing, and Andrew Carr he played,
Speaker 2: he was limited, but he played. Remember the big talking point.
Speaker 2: He got to eighty one, eighty one, and then Pope said,
Speaker 2: the team random of gas.
Speaker 1: Why is that?
Speaker 2: I'd love to that's a question I want to ask tomorrow.
Speaker 2: It was why the other teams? It doesn't seem last
Speaker 2: night Old Miss had three guys played thirty five plus.
Speaker 2: They didn't seem tired at all. Your guys look exhausted
Speaker 2: if they're playing all.
Speaker 1: I can't speak for that goes on or what does?
Speaker 1: Maybe teams got a bad batch. Je Davis is a
Speaker 1: fifth year though. Teams that are winning, teams that are
Speaker 1: playing well, Uh, they they tire out the other team.
Speaker 1: The other team's always chasing them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Arkansas's played like crap all year and you
Speaker 2: go look at the minute logs.
Speaker 1: It's like that every game.
Speaker 2: True, So it's just to me, Uh, I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's it's a mess right now. It's kind of an
Speaker 2: all systems failure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know Jackson Robinson isn't completely comfortable with
Speaker 3: the ball in his hands, I don't think. And you
Speaker 3: know you've got forty plus turnovers in three games now
Speaker 3: without LaMonte Butler.
Speaker 1: How many times you've ever heard of a guard who's
Speaker 1: not comfortable with a ball in his hands?
Speaker 3: How often do you hear that? You know that you
Speaker 3: don't hear that often. It's more like you want the ball,
Speaker 3: like or you've spent your whole high school career being
Speaker 3: the guy.
Speaker 1: With the ball. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Remember Pope told the story about Jackson after the Gonzagga game,
Speaker 2: how they ran him at point last year. I'll never
Speaker 2: play point guard again. So it's not exactly a guy
Speaker 2: who loves that position.
Speaker 1: I don't know him at all. I've you know, spoken
Speaker 1: to him like you have, But I just wonder, is
Speaker 1: he kind of a guy that just can't get out
Speaker 1: of his own head? You know it? Sure? Yeah, because
Speaker 1: he struggled here until Pope said Anna talked to him
Speaker 1: and said, look, you're carrying too much of a mental
Speaker 1: emotional low. Just relax and playing. That was his very
Speaker 1: next game.
Speaker 2: And look he shot the ball well last night. Had
Speaker 2: some turnovers. There's one play where it's like, be physical
Speaker 2: and reach out for a loose ball.
Speaker 1: He didn't.
Speaker 2: But the body language again, when we're talking about the
Speaker 2: body language. Going into halftime, Jackson had his hands in
Speaker 2: his head with the towel, just looking down, holding a
Speaker 2: towel into his head with his head down like he cares.
Speaker 2: He absolutely cares, and a way to strike that balance.
Speaker 2: There's a video out there when he walked out of
Speaker 2: the locker room after the Arkansas game just consolate, you know, Oh,
Speaker 2: put his arms around him and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: No, you want to see that. But on the matter hand,
Speaker 1: you need to see a little more fire on the floor. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: And yet they played with earlier this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did, they did, And yet there's still this
Speaker 3: the number two best offense in the country when it
Speaker 3: comes to efficiency.
Speaker 1: Best in school history.
Speaker 2: So there's so they're number one, number two, I'm sorry
Speaker 2: an offense efficiency, which I think they're only behind Bamar.
Speaker 1: What are they won ten and they're one fourteen in defense,
Speaker 1: which is the worst in school history. So they've the
Speaker 1: this is worse than last year. Yes, so since nineteen
Speaker 1: this is ninety six ninety seven season perk. So they're
Speaker 1: the best offensive efficiency in school history, but the worst
Speaker 1: defense of efficiency in school history. Didn't see that coming.
Speaker 3: Just get a little better on defense and this could
Speaker 3: be such a magical run. But you know, now I'm
Speaker 3: thinking about Wednesday of the SEC tournament and then yeah
Speaker 3: with the New brack first round of the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 3: Because Mark Pope doesn't have a single NCAA tournament win. Oh,
Speaker 3: it doesn't oounced by Ducane.
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this though, prior to the season,
Speaker 1: what were your expectations just one nanc right, Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: get to the five hundred everyone, you know, maybe go
Speaker 1: five hundred in the league, get to the tournament and
Speaker 1: win a game, and then yeah, when the quad one
Speaker 1: wins start to come, Hey we're gonna get to the
Speaker 1: sweet sixteen. Hey, how we're gonna get to the final
Speaker 1: four of the SEC tournament. Hey you know, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: that's all will and good. And then you lose your
Speaker 1: best guy. That's true. No, it's and if I had
Speaker 1: told you right after they had beaten some of those
Speaker 1: quad one teams, oh, as you head into the teeth
Speaker 1: of the SEC schedule, you're going to be with al
Speaker 1: La mont Butler and for some of those games. No,
Speaker 1: Andrew Carr, who for quite a while was before Williams
Speaker 1: caught fire, was doing anything. So if I told you,
Speaker 1: by the way, you're not going to have them have
Speaker 1: fun that I agree with all that from a wins
Speaker 1: and losses standpoint. What I think is very concerning. It's
Speaker 1: how they're losing.
Speaker 2: They just the last two games, specifically the energies, especially
Speaker 2: the Arkansas game has well, the Old Miss game were.
Speaker 1: I thought they came out firing worse.
Speaker 2: No, No, I meant like, especially the Arkansas game where
Speaker 2: you know what's at stake and to not come out
Speaker 2: yeah pistols firing really the whole forty minutes of my pot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ole Miss was worse, no.
Speaker 3: Question, against the second worst team in the SEC.
Speaker 1: That's correct, that too.
Speaker 3: I know they were motivated, but you were at home
Speaker 3: against a one in sixteens with seven dudes. Now you
Speaker 3: play South Carolina on Saturday that don't have a single
Speaker 3: win in the SEC, and you know that is a
Speaker 3: must win. And I mean I'm looking at like three
Speaker 3: maybe four more wins the rest of the way, because
Speaker 3: you've still got Auburn at home, You've still got Missouri
Speaker 3: on the road, You've got home Alabama. I think Vandy
Speaker 3: LSU to South Carolina or your three mus get wins.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no question.
Speaker 3: And if you don't, then I think you're on bubble watch.
Speaker 1: I'm watching I'm watching Arkansas this year and it was
Speaker 1: just I guess I shouldn't have been surprised, but I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's it's Kentucky all over again. And the ball was sticking,
Speaker 1: you know, But so much of that was hey, Boogie,
Speaker 1: save us right. They look nothing of very little like
Speaker 1: they have all year because no Boogie playing. Everybody's touching
Speaker 1: that part of it.
Speaker 2: But the first two games without Boogie, because I went
Speaker 2: back and watch to prepare for this game, it was
Speaker 2: a lot of the same sticking was it?
Speaker 1: This game?
Speaker 2: Cal Cal pretty much said, let's play like those guys.
Speaker 2: That's how it felt. And you know what, they were
Speaker 2: running plays like DJ was.
Speaker 1: Pointing to us.
Speaker 2: That's something pointing with hand signals. That's something watching Arkansas
Speaker 2: here and there all year.
Speaker 1: I'ven't seen halla Perry, Remember he said in a post
Speaker 1: game he told Wagner And when he said it, I thought,
Speaker 1: you idiot, why aren't you doing that all year? He
Speaker 1: told us the media, he said, I told Wagner to
Speaker 1: run stuff so they weren't looking at me. I'm like,
Speaker 1: where was that last year? No Carol was at this season?
Speaker 2: I put it, this is the problem with him. I mean,
Speaker 2: early in his ten years, excellent, all that whatever. Lately
Speaker 2: it's kind of been when he's really motivated, he's going
Speaker 2: to coach his head off, like he's going to be
Speaker 2: unbelievably successful, like the Auburn game last year. He coached
Speaker 2: circles around burst Paul Pearl. Same thing just happened here
Speaker 2: when he came in, motivated his heck to win this game.
Speaker 1: He didn't.
Speaker 2: He was gracious, he didn't brag about it, you know
Speaker 2: how bad he wanted it, and he coached like it.
Speaker 3: And he's won a lot of regular season games. Like,
Speaker 3: don't get that twist. I mean he was a two
Speaker 3: seed the year they lost to Saint Peters. Yeah, the
Speaker 3: three seed last year. So but you know, what can
Speaker 3: you do in March? And what if you do, you
Speaker 3: get your players prepared on the biggest stage.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. And how a player isn't motive motivated
Speaker 1: to playing the NC tournament, I will never understand they,
Speaker 1: you know, or they just look scared in these tournaments lately.
Speaker 3: I guess I'm scared watching him.
Speaker 1: You're talking about your last two UK years. Three other
Speaker 1: pressure last three There was so much pressure built on
Speaker 1: them after that, even the Saint Peterstein they were so tight.
Speaker 3: I know they actually the three game premonition. I would
Speaker 3: be too all.
Speaker 1: Right, We'll take a break, come back and sift through
Speaker 1: more of this mess and talk a little football, baseball
Speaker 1: and basketball here on state wide BBI. Coming up on
Speaker 1: most of these stations is Kentucky South Carolina and and
Speaker 1: you talk about a team that's got nothing to lose,
Speaker 1: right Carolina guy SEC coach of the Year last year.
Speaker 2: He's doing against Kentucky, including when they remember it was
Speaker 2: two years ago when South Carolina came here as this
Speaker 2: is gonna be a quad three game. It was a
Speaker 2: Quad four game and they beat Kentucky here and then
Speaker 2: Kentucky the next game out quent to number five Tennessee.
Speaker 1: So what do you guys think we'll see? Do you
Speaker 1: think we'll see from Kentucky more of the focus, the fire,
Speaker 1: the desire. Let's assume the Lamont doesn't play. What do
Speaker 1: you think we see? Oh?
Speaker 3: I think this team plays up and down to their competition.
Speaker 1: So even with everything going against him right now, you
Speaker 1: think they'll come out slide in that? You do? Really? Yeah? Wow?
Speaker 1: I do?
Speaker 3: I mean unless they show me different. I don't see
Speaker 3: them dominating a weaker opponent in the SEC until they
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think they'll win this game, but yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't see it being so they haven't blown anyone else period.
Speaker 2: Even the games they played really.
Speaker 1: Well, right, I don't know if they're amazing. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: right now times they've been up over one hundred points.
Speaker 2: And they still have done it. So but look South Carolina.
Speaker 2: It's an interesting matchup in the sense CAROLINEA is terrible offensive, Yeah, terrible.
Speaker 2: I think they're one thirty fourth in kent pomp. But
Speaker 2: they're a really good defensive team and their whole goal
Speaker 2: is to muck things up and make it really physical.
Speaker 2: And they're kind of like the type of team Kentucky
Speaker 2: struggled with earlier this season. So you can see where
Speaker 2: I could see Kentucky having some trouble points and having
Speaker 2: some stretches in this game where it's ugly. But I
Speaker 2: think with everything that's on the line and knowing what
Speaker 2: this guy, I just I have a hard time. I'll
Speaker 2: give him some benefit of the doubt. I just have
Speaker 2: a hard time knowing Mark Pope how much this place
Speaker 2: means to them. Some of the comments on air tonight
Speaker 2: of Alley's punction tables and channeling his inner coach Patino.
Speaker 2: I think I'm not going to predict a blowout, but
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be favored by like eight or nine.
Speaker 1: Probably, what do you think, Billy or the Vegas guy.
Speaker 3: Maybe a little less? Okay, I'd say maybe six or
Speaker 3: seven is at home?
Speaker 2: It is at home. Yeah, so let's say it's seven.
Speaker 2: I could see where take South Carolina on the points,
Speaker 2: but Kentucky wins again, I.
Speaker 1: Canna be more than seven, and then yeah I would.
Speaker 1: I would take the points as.
Speaker 3: Well, and they can start flat and still win the game.
Speaker 1: True. Yeah, South Carolina, though, will keep them from getting
Speaker 1: I think that's the thing.
Speaker 2: Oh, there's no question they're very good. Look at and
Speaker 2: go look at Carolina scores. Now, they're almost all like
Speaker 2: two to three possession games. Florida they were up. Florida
Speaker 2: literally beat them and they led the game for ten seconds.
Speaker 1: Watch that game. So they're a little dangerous. They're a
Speaker 1: little dangerous South Carolina. Person more to come and the
Speaker 1: state wide bb I stay with us. Border to border
Speaker 1: is the state wide Big Blue and Cider. Dick gabriel
Speaker 1: Are and Sean Billy Rutledge. We've got the picture in
Speaker 1: a picture, in a picture and a picture going. I
Speaker 1: looked down, Tennessee was trailing by eight. I look up
Speaker 1: and now the balls are up by six with eight
Speaker 1: to play, leading Missouri, which is a really troublesome, gritty
Speaker 1: kind of team. Louisville has got a twelve point lead
Speaker 1: at Boston College, which is not a good team. But
Speaker 1: you're on the road in front of twelve people, but
Speaker 1: on the road, exactly what do you say about the
Speaker 1: acc It stinks. It's terrible. Yeah. Two good teams, maybe three,
Speaker 1: I'd say Louisville, Clemson and uh Duke. Yes, that's it.
Speaker 3: The coaches are dropping like flies over there. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: it's just been a steady.
Speaker 1: Halton, the former Kentucky assistant, and now it's just your retire.
Speaker 3: At least he's going to finish the year. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean Larynaga just dropped him.
Speaker 1: Miami. Well, he wanted to get an assistant to job.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate that too.
Speaker 1: Tennessee.
Speaker 2: I know they'd be Florida Saturday, but how do they
Speaker 2: four spots in a one in one week where they
Speaker 2: lost at home to Kentucky, who then lost to Arkansas
Speaker 2: and unranked.
Speaker 1: Florida game was part of that cycle, Yes, but Florida
Speaker 1: by thirty. Well, Florida's best player got hurt before halftime
Speaker 1: and didn't play the whole second half. Yeah, they beat
Speaker 1: him the whole they did. Kentucky still time was fifteen, right,
Speaker 1: Kentucky still top fifteen, but they lost to them at home,
Speaker 1: and then Kentucky in the same cycle lost to unranked Arkansas.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying Tennessee's not good. I just don't know
Speaker 2: how you've done. I get if they went from like
Speaker 2: eight to seven, eight to six.
Speaker 1: I think Tennessee was over ranked maybe earlier. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: they were winning. Yeah, they had our time scoring.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'll give the voters. I mean, this year,
Speaker 2: it's kind of tough. You know, the three best teams
Speaker 2: in whatever order you want, is Auburn, Duke in Alabama.
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's arguing with that. And then after that,
Speaker 2: it's like there are a lot of pretty good teams,
Speaker 2: but no one that is in that top three tier
Speaker 2: like those three teams.
Speaker 1: So those three teams are different.
Speaker 3: And Kentucky beat Duke. They shared Alabama to have five
Speaker 3: point game something like that. There were one hundred ninety
Speaker 3: nine or something like that.
Speaker 1: One Oh yeah, they lost by five, one ninety seven.
Speaker 3: And they'll play Auburn, so they'll get their shot against
Speaker 3: the three best teams in the country.
Speaker 1: We're about the midwe we'll play Alabama again too. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we're about the midway point of the season. So let
Speaker 1: me ask you this. If I said you can have
Speaker 1: Auburn or the field for the nca Championship, what do
Speaker 1: you think.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say the field because I'm very much on Duke.
Speaker 1: If I said Duke or the Duke, what did you really? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think they have that.
Speaker 2: But we talked about how I forget if it was
Speaker 2: on narrow off air, but talk about how Kentucky's best
Speaker 2: teams with cal had the blend of the elite, elite
Speaker 2: freshman and the vets. That's what Duke is. And they
Speaker 2: have the number one pick in the draft, they have
Speaker 2: another two other lottery picks, and then they have some
Speaker 2: vets they brought in or retained that have really helped them.
Speaker 2: So I'll go with Duke.
Speaker 3: I would take Auburn versus the field. They just they're very,
Speaker 3: very talented. And that Broom kid wasn't he transfer, you know,
Speaker 3: was worried that what they would do without him, and
Speaker 3: he feels I feel like he's gotten back quicker than
Speaker 3: I initially expected, So you know, I think, you know, reluctantly,
Speaker 3: it'll be Bruce Pearl.
Speaker 1: Wow getting a second n C championship. Yep, yep, D
Speaker 1: two level D one joke. You got that there, the
Speaker 1: joke thing.
Speaker 3: Never mind, we'll keep it moving.
Speaker 1: They've had I don't know.
Speaker 2: I know, and you know, Duke is playing in a
Speaker 2: terrible conference, but also well you know, and they.
Speaker 1: Look true, but I watched and I'm like, what am
Speaker 1: I seeing? You know, because they're playing against that streaker
Speaker 1: ACC teams. But you're right, they've got all the It's.
Speaker 2: Also not like they had like maybe one or one scare.
Speaker 2: I think you will look at their school worse. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're doing what you're supposed to do if you're playing
Speaker 2: in a league where you're better than everyone, including they
Speaker 2: killed Louisville too, so and can.
Speaker 1: I assume you take the field over Alabama?
Speaker 2: Yes, I like Alabama, but same thing. We're kind of
Speaker 2: like Kentucky, not to the extent, but I don't think
Speaker 2: they can getting enough stops to win Nancy a.
Speaker 1: Tournament anybody else.
Speaker 2: Those are the only three teams I'll throw this caveat.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're nearly as good this year, but
Speaker 2: it's hard to doubt you. Yukon completely given the effective
Speaker 2: one two in a row, and they still have a
Speaker 2: couple guys from those.
Speaker 1: Two and their coach keeps losing his mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't so honestly like that. That's the only
Speaker 2: other team i'd throw into that they'll turn your back.
Speaker 2: I mean, the best coach in the coach you know who.
Speaker 1: I am talking to somebody the other day about the
Speaker 1: possibility that the SEC duplicates what the Big East did
Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighty five Final four, which was where
Speaker 1: Aaron was it? M sir, No, I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 1: I did not know that. Yeah, three Big East teams. Wow,
Speaker 1: and that was the Villanova Georgetown final. Okay, Memphis State,
Speaker 1: you know St. John's were the other ones. Saint John's
Speaker 1: only Final four period. Hey that's a team. By the way,
Speaker 1: if you want to throw in the field, you don't
Speaker 1: want them in your bracket.
Speaker 3: No, they're good and they have the best coach in
Speaker 3: the country. Still, in my opinion, Iowa State lost recently.
Speaker 3: I think they've lost three in a row. They have,
Speaker 3: and they've all been by double digits. So yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean they're high three in a row.
Speaker 1: By double digits. They lost to Kansas State. They lost
Speaker 1: Angis State at home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then last Monday I was watching the hotel
Speaker 2: they got boat raced by Kansas and the game before
Speaker 2: that they lost to I forgot, but they've lost their
Speaker 2: in row.
Speaker 3: Kansas is a team I've seen blow several games.
Speaker 1: I don't get them. Yeah, they're weird.
Speaker 3: You Baylor Houston, Yeah, they lost that Houston game three times,
Speaker 3: and then.
Speaker 1: Baylor got spanked the other night. Yeah, Iowa States lost
Speaker 1: their last three up. I lost it. Come back to
Speaker 1: me on that. I'll get you.
Speaker 3: I definitely think Florida could get hot and oh yeah
Speaker 3: another team though, I just don't.
Speaker 1: Think enough stops. Yeah, true, Auburn Florida. But you know,
Speaker 1: in so many instances it and it does. I mean,
Speaker 1: there are very few teams that can roll through any
Speaker 1: bracket anytime. Yeah, it'll come down to who's in your bracket.
Speaker 1: You know, Louisville which is up sixteen now on BC,
Speaker 1: that'll be an NS tournament team, yep. And it'll depend
Speaker 1: on matchups, matchups, that's right, But it will with Kentucky too. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well so yeah, the last three of Iowa State,
Speaker 2: they lost an overtime by eleven to Arizona. They lost
Speaker 2: by nineteen at home to a sub five hundred Kansas State,
Speaker 2: and then they lost by seventeen on the road and
Speaker 2: Lawrence they play on they have College Game Day is
Speaker 2: going to Aim Saturday, five hundred.
Speaker 1: That's who they're playing. And I Aloway State's lost three in
Speaker 1: a row. Who watches good good select.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm giving it, And you know what, I
Speaker 2: guess they went to Auburn two weeks ago, but it's
Speaker 2: Florida Auburn this weekend.
Speaker 3: Who was making programming decisions over there?
Speaker 1: Seth Greenberg?
Speaker 3: I mean, what a joke. Let's go to Duke, North Carolina.
Speaker 3: They're only going to play three times this year?
Speaker 1: Did you see that? I know it ended up being
Speaker 1: a little closer, but at one point Duke was up
Speaker 1: like forty two to seventeen or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a blowout early and then they kind
Speaker 3: of clawed back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, unbelievable. My brother I was just telling you guys.
Speaker 1: Worked a girls high school game the other night Sacred
Speaker 1: Heart Academy, which has defending champion and as the best
Speaker 1: player in the state, and she's being recruited by Lashue
Speaker 1: I think she's already committed. Yeah, Kentucky got in on
Speaker 1: her when when he they signed Kenny Brooks. She reopened
Speaker 1: a little bit. But Kim Maulky's at the game, big deal.
Speaker 1: I believe the final score and I do not know
Speaker 1: who they were playing eighty four to seven, eighty four
Speaker 1: to stop the count at least as when my brother
Speaker 1: texted me, I wondered if he was sitting. But yeah,
Speaker 1: this is sacred heart, you said, academy, you got your
Speaker 1: might have been eighty six to seven eight? Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: eighty seven never been known for uh powerhouse bas except
Speaker 1: when we Suncil was there. Oh my god, yeah awful, yeah, secret.
Speaker 1: That's where my sisters went to school. But they sure
Speaker 1: weren't playing basketball like that. Really, that's according to Maxims,
Speaker 1: who they've played. Wow, that's but yeah, Kim Moulky was there.
Speaker 3: Yeah did you did your son notice the cheetah print
Speaker 3: and then say, hey, that's Kim Moulkey.
Speaker 1: He knew she was coming. They all knew she was coming,
Speaker 1: and uh they come to Apparently he sent me a
Speaker 1: photo show we're off the air. She's hard to.
Speaker 2: Miss that game at Memorial later this month, already sold.
Speaker 1: Out I'll tell you what people want. Some people want
Speaker 1: to knock the UK women because of their schedule. Stop it.
Speaker 1: They're eighteen and two, thank you, Yes they have, but yeah,
Speaker 1: the last three games is murderers roll.
Speaker 2: They also they also just went on the road and
Speaker 2: with the rank an Oklahoma team that was I think
Speaker 2: ahead of them.
Speaker 1: Thirteen depend on the poll. You look, okay, it depends
Speaker 1: on twelve thirteen, thirteen, twelve, but still you're on the road,
Speaker 1: and you're on the road, and you have George Amos
Speaker 1: forty three, forty three, So yeah.
Speaker 2: Like, look, they haven't played South Carolina or Elsie. We
Speaker 2: get it, but just enjoy it. They never We're not
Speaker 2: talking about Kentucky men's basketball, talking about women's. They don't
Speaker 2: exactly have the same history or the same storied tradition.
Speaker 2: Let it have some fun with it.
Speaker 1: But they finish with Tennessee LSU and South Carolina's brutal
Speaker 1: and the last game is South Carolina at South CARO.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be say, yeah, wouldn't that be something if
Speaker 1: that decided whether or not they shared. Is Carolina's still undefeated,
Speaker 1: that would be something else that would be pretty amazing.
Speaker 1: But it it just speaks so well for the job
Speaker 1: Kenny Brooks did building the roster, and mind you were
Speaker 1: talking about injuries. Two of his best players are out
Speaker 1: all the year. They won't I know, you know there
Speaker 1: are a couple of five stars. Our kids are really
Speaker 1: going to help them either.
Speaker 2: Claire Stratto's phenomenal. It's not like she's a senior fifth year,
Speaker 2: she's a sophomore. Got two more years of her Yes, yea.
Speaker 3: And Kenny doing a little bit different than Mark. You know,
Speaker 3: he was hired maybe a month earlier than Mark was. Yes,
Speaker 3: he brought a lot of his players from his former team.
Speaker 3: I didn't see that much with Pope, even though Jackson
Speaker 3: Robinson came.
Speaker 1: Ye.
Speaker 3: So and now he's having immediate success by just implementing
Speaker 3: what he was doing at Virginia Tech over at Kentucky.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many upper classmen kid last year.
Speaker 2: Mark, who could have had the two kids who were
Speaker 2: at Louisville Khalifa and uh Waterman. Then they remember they
Speaker 2: had that Richie Sunders kids who's having a really nice
Speaker 2: year by U. They had them on campus and you
Speaker 2: decided to stay. They had another kid, their point guard
Speaker 2: started decided to stay. They had a lot look, and
Speaker 2: so you gotta remember, b Yu, it's a little different
Speaker 2: to pluck transfers because it's a religious school. So you
Speaker 2: had a lot, you had a lot of guys who
Speaker 2: stayed on board there, and then you had some gat I.
Speaker 1: Was pleasantly surprised at Chandler came here.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, he's obviously talking about a kid who just
Speaker 2: served the two your mission, so you know he's religious,
Speaker 2: and yeah, it's you know, it was a little bit different,
Speaker 2: But I agree. I think the time my head to
Speaker 2: did Kenny. I think Kenny only took stracking aymore, are
Speaker 2: there any others I know his daughter, but she's a
Speaker 2: walk On's.
Speaker 1: A walk on. So I think that's what I think
Speaker 1: is really fascinating too. As Kenny told the story, you
Speaker 1: might have been at the press conference where remember there
Speaker 1: was a weird kind of string and you you've got
Speaker 1: to schedule people in here, Billy, So you might remember
Speaker 1: kind of an odd stretch of games where they played,
Speaker 1: uh they just played it odd times on odd days,
Speaker 1: and then they went a week or eight days without
Speaker 1: a game. Kenny said it was tough to schedule, you know,
Speaker 1: because he came in so late. But part of it too,
Speaker 1: was he got your to Aymore and he said there
Speaker 1: were people who were like, oh sure, yeah, well Kentucky,
Speaker 1: Yeah we'll we'll play. Yeah sure, oh wait you got Aymore.
Speaker 1: You know we're busy that week. Oh really Yeah, said
Speaker 1: that I don't think we'll be able to make it
Speaker 1: to election. It for a game, Georgia Aymore, huh, good luck,
Speaker 1: you know that kind of stuff. So that just what
Speaker 1: does that tell you about her? And then you've seen
Speaker 1: her play superstar? Oh man worth the price of admission.
Speaker 1: I was talking to Christy Thomas on my show the other.
Speaker 2: Day and only got like four or five games her
Speaker 2: left at home enjoy Yeah, oh yeah, she's unfortunately a
Speaker 2: fifth year.
Speaker 1: Yeah get there. But every time Oklahoma needed, you know,
Speaker 1: did something great Aymore. I was telling it was I
Speaker 1: was in Louisville and we're coming home and my wife
Speaker 1: from a family gathering, and I listened to the game
Speaker 1: all the way home with Darren and I get out
Speaker 1: of the car and I think the late third, early fourth,
Speaker 1: and Oklahoma for like the third time had made up
Speaker 1: almost entirely a twelve to a fifteen point deficit. Kentucky
Speaker 1: had been up and then Oklahoma comes back knocking down
Speaker 1: three pointers. I get out of the car. Kentucky's up one.
Speaker 1: I go in the house. We you know, take care
Speaker 1: of the dogs. Turn the TV on, Kentucky's up fifteen.
Speaker 1: They go off in another run. You know. So she
Speaker 1: tied a program record, right, yes, yeah, with Ryan Howard
Speaker 1: and someone else. Yeah. So anyway back to the men's game.
Speaker 1: You got the Cats in South Carolina, and what were
Speaker 1: you saying you had heard about Butler.
Speaker 2: I've heard some rumblings. Just keep your eyes on next Tuesday.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna be Saturday, but keep your
Speaker 2: eyes on the Tennessee game. Here ross Tuesday, Tuesday, Tennessee
Speaker 2: Kentucky Remax reupper.
Speaker 1: You know, just keep an eye on it. So's I'm
Speaker 1: not guaranteeing anything.
Speaker 3: So while we wait for Lamont to come back, who
Speaker 3: will play a more pivotal role in these upcoming games?
Speaker 3: Travis Perry or Colin Chandler.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I like them.
Speaker 3: Because Chandler plays good defense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say this game Saturday, I'll go with Chileng
Speaker 2: Chandler because I think South Carolina is not a good
Speaker 2: I know South Carolina is not a good offensive team. Uh,
Speaker 2: and he could help just continue to slow them down.
Speaker 2: Whereas South Carolina's guards defensively are very good, and I
Speaker 2: think they're a little bigger and a tougher challenge for
Speaker 2: for Travis. See, that's why I think that was a
Speaker 2: good matchup for him.
Speaker 1: At he played well. It depends on how you tell me,
Speaker 1: how you frame your question.
Speaker 3: Again, who has a greater impact on the team's success
Speaker 3: Saturday or the rest of the games until Lamont Butler?
Speaker 1: I thought you mentioned Saturday. Okay, but see, I'll still
Speaker 1: see I'll stay with Travis simply because from what you
Speaker 1: were saying about South Carolina's defense. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: Chandler can help get Kentucky into his offense. No, that's
Speaker 1: not his job, you know.
Speaker 2: He Yeah, I mean it was nice to see him
Speaker 2: get to the rack and score against Arkansas, But otherwise
Speaker 2: he's been.
Speaker 1: But he's more of a two. He's not ready. He's
Speaker 1: the number three point guard. Uh, you know, yeah in theory. Actually,
Speaker 1: I thought he's getting better. I agree. I thought he
Speaker 1: played a good game yesterday. I just think he's not great.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I meant not defensively.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but this team doesn't need offense.
Speaker 1: They need defense exactly. Oh I know, but it also
Speaker 1: I mean, but for a freshman take anything to get
Speaker 1: you go with Chandler against Darkansas because Janelle Davis suddenly
Speaker 1: decides to become Janelle Davis again, which might have been Aaron.
Speaker 1: The biggest surprise in that Arkansas game.
Speaker 2: Not to Aaron gersha On, it wasn't. I had a feeling.
Speaker 2: I've watched again, my brother goes to f AU. I've
Speaker 2: watched too much. Nellie Davis. I knew it was coming,
Speaker 2: and it was coming eventually, and it's like, you know
Speaker 2: what the eyes he had for him, think about it.
Speaker 2: Everyone's written him off. All the eyes are on a
Speaker 2: D and on DJ and on z on Cal. He
Speaker 2: could just kind of be like, crap, I'm Janelle Davis,
Speaker 2: Like let's go.
Speaker 1: That's what he did, and then they put Chandler them
Speaker 1: and he disappeared.
Speaker 3: The biggest surprise was Cal making halftime adjustments. Yeah, sure
Speaker 3: that if he would have coached like that, he should
Speaker 3: still would still be a Kentucky. I mean, the guy
Speaker 3: just pulled out all the stops for that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, like I said, if if made isn't hit
Speaker 1: that shot for North Carolina and Kentucky goes to the
Speaker 1: final four. Calla Perry is still here.
Speaker 3: Well, if he didn't keep the Harrison Twins in and
Speaker 3: played some other guys. You know, if we can choke
Speaker 3: an eight point lead against Saint Peter's and then they
Speaker 3: play Murray and then they played if.
Speaker 1: They don't blow a lead against Auburn, yeah, or if PJ.
Speaker 2: Washington hit some free throws against auburny Kansas State, or
Speaker 2: if they don't blow a six point lead against Kansas
Speaker 2: State two years ago.
Speaker 1: I mean, we can keep going.
Speaker 3: I've told you guys, if they beat Oakland, he's gonna
Speaker 3: shoot threes.
Speaker 1: There's chapter and verse about missed free throws at cal Perry,
Speaker 1: a chance at three more. No championship, no question, not
Speaker 1: just maybe they can advance, I mean championships. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's life. We'll take a break, come back and chat
Speaker 1: a little more. UK Sports on a state wide Big
Speaker 1: Blue Insider final segment with Billy Relijaron Gershan and I
Speaker 1: want to say, since we met last, it's been more
Speaker 1: than a week. Didn't football pick up one more olignement?
Speaker 2: They did pick up the left tackle from New Mexico State.
Speaker 2: Forget if We talked about that on here or not,
Speaker 2: but they did. They had an experienced left tackle that
Speaker 2: they sorely needed. So yeah, Pete, don't ask me the
Speaker 2: first thing. Just Pete, He's uh, I forget what ethnicity.
Speaker 1: They will start at least four new alignments.
Speaker 2: Yes, and then probably Jalen Farmer will be the only
Speaker 2: returning starter.
Speaker 1: Is that going to be enough? That's better than they had? No.
Speaker 2: I think there's some depth for the first time in
Speaker 2: a while, at least on paper. But it's going to
Speaker 2: be up to Billy's favorite coach on the University of
Speaker 2: Kentucky campus to develop.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. Now. Upcoming is the Super Bowl. None
Speaker 1: of us has a dog in this fight.
Speaker 2: Well, I just hate the Eagles, you know what. I've
Speaker 2: gotten to the point where I'm so past it, likeon,
Speaker 2: just good for you, man, I've got nothing anymore.
Speaker 1: I cool if the Eagles, sorry Aaron, If the Eagles
Speaker 1: won and Darien Kinnard collected his third Super Bowl ring?
Speaker 1: Was it Corey Price or somebody had? The guy has
Speaker 1: played in three games in his career.
Speaker 3: That's incredible.
Speaker 1: Three regular season appearances. He's either been practice squad or
Speaker 1: strictly a backup someone. I guess he hasn't even played
Speaker 1: on placement teams.
Speaker 2: The Giants played against the Eagles third teamers, uh, the
Speaker 2: last regular season game. I don't even remember him playing.
Speaker 2: That would have been like, oh he's playing. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't remember that.
Speaker 1: But he got two. He got two of the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: and then he signs free agent with the Eagles. And
Speaker 1: good for him, because I think one year with the
Speaker 1: Chiefs of his practice squad.
Speaker 2: Someone someone's getting a three peetz Saturday Sunday makes me
Speaker 2: think of Jared Lorenzen went in with the Giants. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, trying to tell us what color gatorades on
Speaker 2: the sideline, you know, which would.
Speaker 3: Probably be a pretty big no note nowadays.
Speaker 1: Did you ever read the comments or see the SoundBite
Speaker 1: where Eli Manning credited Lorenzo.
Speaker 3: I remember something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, after he completed that pass, after with with
Speaker 1: defenders draped on him, the iconic pass, Yes, iconic pass,
Speaker 1: because he said in practice it was Jared Lorenzo who
Speaker 1: had beat the crap out of him with those dummies
Speaker 1: in those drills. YEP.
Speaker 2: I thought that was such a great Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow I'll be more pissed off about if you.
Speaker 1: Guys never got an MVP vote, made four Pro Bowls
Speaker 1: in sixteen years.
Speaker 2: Two time Super Bowl champion quarter But as I've said before,
Speaker 2: I've always I've always believed in that.
Speaker 1: As I said before, though, to me, it's the twenty
Speaker 1: something fourth quarter comebacks he engineered.
Speaker 2: Yes, and he won a lot of games, and also
Speaker 2: you got and yes, you're right, he didn't get any
Speaker 2: MVP votes. But look at the quarterbacks he had to
Speaker 2: go up, like, oh yeah, his brother Tom Brady, Brett Farr,
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers.
Speaker 1: For a mediocre franchise. Yeah, sorry, well we won two
Speaker 1: Super Bowls with a good defense, Drew Brees. Yes, hard
Speaker 1: to get m v P. No, I'd vote those, like
Speaker 1: I said, first vote. I don't know, but I'd vote
Speaker 1: him eventually again because two Super Bowls plus all those
Speaker 1: fourth quarter comebacks exactly, you cannot ignore that. Okay, you
Speaker 1: gotta put arch Manning in.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, yeah, Archie, Archie, and in Archie
Speaker 2: was running around back there with the Saints.
Speaker 1: That's true. I love go Chiefs. I remember that. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind seeing Eagles win. But yeah, I'm just there
Speaker 1: for the commercials. For billionaire and that sid good night
Speaker 1: from lexingon