WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:10.599 You see somethings going to happen. What what's going to happen? 2 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:15.519 What? 3 00:00:24.519 --> 00:00:29.679 Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome. Uh yeah, so that intro headless? 4 00:00:29.719 --> 00:00:31.399 Do you do you want to explain a little bit 5 00:00:31.519 --> 00:00:35.119 about because I'm I'm pretty sure some people may be 6 00:00:35.119 --> 00:00:38.399 a little confused that that that wasn't a pop up advertisement. Guys, 7 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:42.880 this episode is about our Ristaeus. Did I say it right? 8 00:00:43.479 --> 00:00:50.759 Yep? Okay, yeah, gods yeah, yeah, we started We started 9 00:00:50.759 --> 00:00:54.240 this not knowing where it would take us. Right the 10 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:57.320 Rustic Apollo was just next on the list, And it 11 00:00:57.439 --> 00:01:01.240 just happens to be that I'm searching this topic at 12 00:01:01.240 --> 00:01:04.959 the very same time they're releasing a movie about it 13 00:01:05.959 --> 00:01:08.879 this weekend. Like it literally just came out on Friday. 14 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:15.879 I had no idea about this either, dude, Right, but 15 00:01:16.400 --> 00:01:18.280 so here, let's let's go ahead. We'll pull this up 16 00:01:18.359 --> 00:01:25.599 right here, Aristaeus, this guy. 17 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:33.680 Look at that handsome feller there he is. We saw 18 00:01:33.719 --> 00:01:34.760 that the trailer, didn't we. 19 00:01:35.599 --> 00:01:41.079 Yeah, so we will be talking about this guy, uh 20 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:44.680 b symbolism a little bit about that, the connection to 21 00:01:44.959 --> 00:01:50.840 the trailer. We just watched the movie named Bougonia, which 22 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:56.079 I think that's pretty uncanny that they were named the 23 00:01:56.400 --> 00:02:00.879 you know, the movie after the type of ritual that 24 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:02.159 you were talking about. 25 00:02:01.959 --> 00:02:09.879 Right, somebody's saying, your pants are on fire, But yes, yes, 26 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:13.400 in this instance, this movie has everything to do with 27 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:22.800 this character from ancient Greece. In fact, probably much older 28 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:26.039 than even they're talking about in ancient Greece, right, So 29 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:30.960 in the ancient Mediterranean world, there was this belief in 30 00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:34.919 spontaneous generation. Now that's that's an oversimplification that a lot 31 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:37.960 of scientists have put onto it. But part of this 32 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:44.639 belief is talking about the ox born, the ox born ritual. 33 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:47.840 That's what bona means. So the first part bou means 34 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:54.159 ox and gona means born or generated from. And so 35 00:02:54.560 --> 00:03:01.800 this ritual was destroying an animal is an ox so 36 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:04.759 that you can get rebirth and renewal. So in the 37 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:09.080 story about our Status, all of his bees died off, 38 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:12.800 just like the environmental destruction that we're going through with 39 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:15.520 the bees right now, right, And so the only way 40 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:20.840 that he was able to bring life back into his 41 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:25.919 be bee hives was to do this bougonia ritual and 42 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:29.719 have the bees come out of the corpse of the 43 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:35.360 ox spontaneously generated. In this ritual, and so he would 44 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:40.000 revive his honey bees through the destruction of this ox. 45 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:43.639 Now this is talked about Virgil's Gorgix right here. This 46 00:03:43.719 --> 00:03:46.120 is Virgil's book four, and I was going to read 47 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:49.240 a little bit this so that you guys can get 48 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:55.800 this idea, all right, so Brotinus, oh, I'm sorry this 49 00:03:55.840 --> 00:03:59.400 is in Latin. Here now in its turn, I will 50 00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:04.039 pursue this objective. Honey heaven said, a gift from the sky. 51 00:04:05.080 --> 00:04:08.439 May seem us look with favor on this story, which 52 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:12.599 tells about a marvelous tiny scene. And I'll order all 53 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:18.680 in order of magnanimous captains and the entire nation, its character, activities, 54 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:23.600 its tribes, and their battles. The task is small, but 55 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:27.600 not the glory if the powers that might oppose it 56 00:04:27.639 --> 00:04:31.199 will allow it, and if Apollo listens to my prayer. 57 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:38.759 Virgil is firmly a polytheistic guy. First of all, I 58 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:41.439 find a protected place for the bees to make it 59 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:43.800 their home, a place that is safe from the wind 60 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:47.519 that might prevent them from getting back with their food, 61 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:50.879 and safe from the sheep or they wanted kids that 62 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:55.759 trample the flowers down, or the wandering heifer shaking the 63 00:04:55.800 --> 00:05:00.279 dew from the grass and brushing the rising blades protect 64 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:05.040 the rich stalls. This is first century BC, right, So 65 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:08.000 this is before Christ and everything else. This is what 66 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:10.120 they use this to teach their kids' literacy. So this 67 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:15.240 is all what the early Roman or late classical Roman 68 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:20.240 children are reading. Protect the rich stalls of their honeycombs, 69 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:24.639 from the scaly shiny backed lizard, from the bee eater, 70 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:27.879 from the other birds of the sort, from poor scene 71 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:31.439 whose bloody hands have left their signs upon the crimson breast, 72 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:34.959 and any of these can devastate the bees, catching them 73 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:38.199 in their mouths to carry them home as delicacies to 74 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:40.879 feed their cruel children. Talking about the pigs and how 75 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:45.160 the pigs just eat everything, and there should be a 76 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:49.079 limpid spring nearby, or a moss edged pool, or else 77 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:51.800 a little brook. He's telling people how to take care 78 00:05:51.839 --> 00:05:56.360 of the bees, almost unseen making its way through the grass, 79 00:05:56.439 --> 00:06:01.639 and a big palm tree or oleester shading the vestibule 80 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:04.399 of the place where the bees have settled, So where 81 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:07.439 the kings of the hive lead the swarm forth in 82 00:06:07.519 --> 00:06:10.360 the welcoming season, and glad to be free at last, 83 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:14.480 The youthful bees are capering and playing. There'll be a 84 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:17.639 stream bank or a pond bank there where they can 85 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:20.720 escape the unaccustomed heat, and where the leaves of the 86 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:24.040 tree can shell shelter them. And whether it's pools or 87 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:27.639 running streams, there must be a willow, shoots and stones 88 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:31.160 deposed across as resting places for them to spread their 89 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:33.959 wings and dry them in the sun. If they had 90 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:37.720 happened to linger and were caught in a sudden shower 91 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:40.839 where the wind had suddenly blown them into the water, 92 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:44.800 and there should be sweet bloom blooming margarine here, and 93 00:06:44.839 --> 00:06:50.920 the odor of seraphilia spreading far aroamic time violet beds 94 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:54.560 drinking from the trickling spring or stream. Now what's interesting 95 00:06:54.600 --> 00:06:57.560 about that time reference is that that's what you would 96 00:06:57.560 --> 00:07:00.560 cope the ground with in the bogogna ual, as you 97 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:02.839 would coat the ground with time. As you're bringing the 98 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:07.600 ox into the barn and beating them. Whether the hive 99 00:07:07.720 --> 00:07:10.800 is made by sewing together concave strips of bart or 100 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:16.199 woven of pliant oyster ones, be sure to the entrance 101 00:07:16.279 --> 00:07:19.920 is narrow, for winter's cold makes the honey freeze and congeal. 102 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:23.240 He causes it to melt and liquefy, and either of 103 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:26.360 these cases is a cause for fear for the bees. 104 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:29.959 For it is this reason they vie with one another 105 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:33.040 to smear wax over the chinks in the walls of 106 00:07:33.079 --> 00:07:36.879 their houses, or stop them with resinous stuff from flowers 107 00:07:37.240 --> 00:07:45.079 more sticky than birdline or pitch phrygian ida. Anyways, they 108 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:47.439 bring it back home and save it for this purpose, 109 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:50.920 And so we're told. Sometimes they establish their house in 110 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:54.800 a hiding place underground to keep themselves safe, or they're 111 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:58.639 discovered to have settled themselves in the cells within a 112 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:00.879 porous rock, where maybe they can vities of a tree 113 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:03.720 decaying trump So to help them out by spreading mud 114 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:06.360 or claying over the walls of their hide, and maybe 115 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:12.360 scatter a few leaves over it. Be sure there isn't 116 00:08:12.360 --> 00:08:15.079 a u tree growing too near where the highst placed. 117 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:18.720 Beware of roasting crab too close to it too. The 118 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:22.120 smoke is poisonous to the bees. Beware of any place 119 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:25.360 where the smell of mud prevails, or where a voice 120 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:29.560 from within a hollow rock comes echoing back in response 121 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:31.959 to the sound that struck it. 122 00:08:32.120 --> 00:08:40.039 So cool, it's so cool, man. Wow, it's crazy how 123 00:08:40.039 --> 00:08:43.279 the entire ritual consists of just nothing but nature. Right. 124 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:46.440 Well, he hasn't even gotten into it. He's just talking 125 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:49.080 about how to bee keep right. So the entire Gorgix 126 00:08:49.480 --> 00:08:52.720 is all about how to be a farmer. So he's 127 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:55.679 got poems upon poems of how to be a farmer, 128 00:08:55.720 --> 00:08:57.960 and he gets into how to create the bees using 129 00:08:57.960 --> 00:08:58.720 this proggiment. 130 00:08:59.240 --> 00:09:03.120 Yeah, exactly, that's the Gorgics. I said that right right, 131 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:06.080 I'm trying to pronounce all this correctly. I don't want 132 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:09.759 to disappoint you. So one thing I do want to say, 133 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:15.159 it's funny, very symbolic that the bees are leaving or 134 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:19.200 dying off. It's kind of like God is leaving humanity. Right. 135 00:09:21.440 --> 00:09:25.919 Another thing, and I'm sure we'll get to it. This 136 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:29.559 process of the bees inside of the ox is very 137 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:33.159 similar to that of the cow and the homunculus and 138 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:40.919 beating the cow with certain objects, and like the birthing 139 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:45.120 of that through that process. Also, I wanted to tell 140 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:49.360 everybody go ahead and repost the stream like it if 141 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:52.200 you can. We were trying to get some other people 142 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:54.240 in here. Nick was going to join us, and we're 143 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:58.080 I was gonna say, bro, we should play the video 144 00:09:58.159 --> 00:10:02.240 from the Arkansas paranormal expo before we get out of 145 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:03.759 here today. So remind me to do that. 146 00:10:04.440 --> 00:10:05.679 You got it, You got it. 147 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:07.840 Nick has a good cameo at the end. He's doing 148 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:10.519 a six to six to six troll I think, which 149 00:10:10.559 --> 00:10:17.080 I think is hilarious. But yeah, I wanted to read 150 00:10:17.120 --> 00:10:19.919 a little something about bees. When I first started Gray 151 00:10:19.960 --> 00:10:23.919 piled I was one of the first forms of occult 152 00:10:23.960 --> 00:10:26.639 symbolism that I got into was that of animals, right, 153 00:10:27.320 --> 00:10:30.440 and so this is from a you probably guess it, 154 00:10:30.440 --> 00:10:34.120 a manly Palmer Hall treaties. So the bee hive is 155 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:38.960 found in masonry as a reminder that in diligence and 156 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:43.480 labor for a common good, true happiness and prosperity are found. 157 00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:46.799 The bee is a symbol of wisdom, for as this 158 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:51.559 tiny insect collects pollen from the flowers, so men may 159 00:10:51.639 --> 00:10:55.639 extract wisdom from the experiences of daily life. The bee 160 00:10:55.679 --> 00:10:59.080 is sacred to the goddess Venus, and according to mystics, 161 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:01.240 it is one of the seven forms of life which 162 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:04.759 came to Earth from the planet Venus millions of years ago. 163 00:11:04.919 --> 00:11:08.200 Wheat and bananas are said to be of similar origin. Okay, 164 00:11:08.559 --> 00:11:11.080 this is the reason why the origin of these three 165 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:13.679 forms of life cannot be traced. The fact that bees 166 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:16.600 are ruled by queens is one reason why this insect 167 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:22.279 is considered a sacred feminine symbol. So we think about 168 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:22.919 that headless. 169 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:29.480 I think there is a certain hive mind attachment between 170 00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:33.159 bees and humans. We have the same kind of hive 171 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:38.200 mind mentality on a different level, the universal unconscious level, 172 00:11:38.200 --> 00:11:42.600 as Young would talk about. So our archetypes become our 173 00:11:42.679 --> 00:11:46.080 hive mind. Right, we can tell each other references about 174 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:50.200 these movies and these other cultural things that sort of 175 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:52.799 produce a language all of its own, sort of a 176 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:58.720 subconscious language. And for the Masons, for the Mormons, for 177 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:01.960 all of these other cultures, to exemplify the bee, they're 178 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:06.279 going for that hive mind. They're going for that centrality 179 00:12:06.320 --> 00:12:09.759 of thought, which I think we find all over the 180 00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:15.559 Mediterranean with their Batalist stones. And the Batalist stones are 181 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:20.360 like the central core of that civilization, stones that represent 182 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:23.320 the middle part of the body or the omphaless. 183 00:12:23.679 --> 00:12:27.000 Right, the Batalist stones. 184 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:31.200 Yeah, well, in general they're called Batalist stones, but specifically 185 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:34.919 usually Beatalist stones are an ownfullest for the culture, right, 186 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:37.399 which would be a belly button. This is what connects 187 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:40.120 the earth to the sky. As we've heard before. You know, 188 00:12:40.200 --> 00:12:43.799 the belly button of the earth is where everything was 189 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:48.679 once connected. Right, And so Minnesota comes from the word 190 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:52.080 mini gota, which means navel of the world. They had 191 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:56.960 this concept all of the world, except for after we've 192 00:12:57.000 --> 00:13:01.159 introduced some other religions. Then the ship of the betel 193 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:04.639 of stone comes not from under your feet, but now 194 00:13:04.639 --> 00:13:06.960 it's in somebody else's land, and you've got to do 195 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:10.200 something to get your betelist stone back so that you can. 196 00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:16.039 Your birth right basically, right, it is similar. Yeah, well, 197 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:18.799 I mean there is the concept of bees, you know, 198 00:13:19.000 --> 00:13:25.159 being you know, like using the power of God to 199 00:13:25.240 --> 00:13:29.320 heal you. For instance, if you get like there's that 200 00:13:29.799 --> 00:13:32.559 theory that if you get stung by bees, it's kind 201 00:13:32.559 --> 00:13:36.320 of because you need to be stung, or it's like 202 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:39.240 they're healing you spiritually or something. There's there's something that 203 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:41.360 that they're doing there. So when they avoid you, it's 204 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:43.879 kind of like you know, you're you're vibrating at a 205 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:47.799 proper frequency or you know, uh, in tune with nature. 206 00:13:49.320 --> 00:13:53.679 Well, b venom has a particular property that actually makes 207 00:13:53.679 --> 00:13:58.120 it beneficial to people who suffer from MS, right, so really, 208 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:02.759 b venom is used in medication for people having nerve 209 00:14:02.799 --> 00:14:06.559 disorders like muscular district I forgot what MS stands for. 210 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:13.320 And it's used in other things as well. That targets 211 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:17.519 the the you know, the nerve fibers. And what's interesting 212 00:14:17.879 --> 00:14:20.960 is bees are also very closely associated with Jupiter, and 213 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:25.159 Jupiter set them in motion at first, right, Oristaeus may 214 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:28.759 have learned to cultivate them, but Jupiter is the one 215 00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:34.159 who created them, supposed to Virgil. So the idea that 216 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:37.399 they're connected to the nerves and the sinews really does 217 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:39.440 make a lot of sense when you think about the 218 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:42.919 electrical nature of the nervous system and how there is 219 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:46.519 this connection of this electrical system. If you want to 220 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:51.399 look up the Umfullest stone at Delphi, oh m p h. 221 00:14:53.080 --> 00:15:03.720 A l O s at Delphi. Yeah, okay, let me 222 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:04.279 share this. 223 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:18.480 Right here, that's the one. So this Bomefuless stone, it 224 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:21.080 doesn't look like much when you're looking at it. It's like, oh, 225 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:26.919 they carved something into there, maybe, so what's the big deal. Well, 226 00:15:27.080 --> 00:15:30.519 that pattern on the outside is supposed to look like 227 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:34.679 a net, right, but to me, it looks like bees 228 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:37.399 crawling on the outside. Of a beehive, and you could see, 229 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:39.240 you know, down there at the bottom, you've got a 230 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:42.559 sort of a bee opening kind of at the bottom. 231 00:15:42.600 --> 00:15:46.000 These were made out of clay. They weren't player or concrete, 232 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:49.919 but they were hollow on the inside. And these would 233 00:15:49.919 --> 00:15:54.200 go underneath of the oracle as she's delivering the prophecy. 234 00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:58.360 So this navel of the world, which is what homefulest means, 235 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:06.159 is underneath the oracle. So he's sitting on a tripod 236 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:06.840 above it. 237 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:10.440 Okay, So this was underneath her, right. 238 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:14.720 And so they assumed that that meant that these volcanic 239 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:17.360 gases were coming up through it, because it's hollow and 240 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:20.039 it's got a hole in the top, and so this 241 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:25.000 was like how it directed these hallucinogenic fumes up to 242 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:29.000 the oracle. Well, I don't know about that, but the 243 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:33.600 symbolism itself is that this beehive is the central core 244 00:16:34.279 --> 00:16:37.399 of the Hellenic world. Right, this is the place where 245 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:43.320 the oracle, this priestess, the pythia attended by the melisa, 246 00:16:43.559 --> 00:16:49.399 which means honey in Greek. Right, attended by the Melisa priestesses. Right, 247 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:54.480 the beehive priestesses would deliver her messages to the masses. 248 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:57.200 This is another hopful list, but they're all in the 249 00:16:57.200 --> 00:17:01.960 shape of this honey beehive, right, right. And then you 250 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:08.440 have the tomb that is most famous in Greece prehistory 251 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:14.200 in the Mycenaean period, which is the tomb of I 252 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:16.400 forgot his name. But it's in the shape. 253 00:17:16.119 --> 00:17:20.839 Of there with the snake on it. Dude. That's wow, right, 254 00:17:21.039 --> 00:17:26.000 very orphic, crazy yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like an egg. Yeah, wow, dude. 255 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:33.119 And the Blackstone of Kaibali, right, the blackstone similar shape. Similarly, 256 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:35.400 this is what they brought back to Rome and they 257 00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:38.519 wanted to win the Punic Wars, right, So all of 258 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:44.079 this comes to this idea of this beehive, miss right, 259 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:49.039 This is what we derive our central understanding of the 260 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:55.640 world from. Now, how do you revive the beehive? Sacrifice? Sacrifice? 261 00:17:56.480 --> 00:17:59.680 So they had to that's a good one, right there. 262 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:03.400 They had other methods, the alabastron being one of them. 263 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:10.279 Don't look it up, let them do that. But yeah, 264 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:16.920 so the the idea is that through cultivating these uh 265 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:21.519 these relationships with nature and understanding how to the proper 266 00:18:21.559 --> 00:18:24.960 method of sacrifice, you could bring fertility back through the 267 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:28.079 world through a certain kind of destruction. And if you 268 00:18:28.119 --> 00:18:32.000 watch that trailer, you get that impression. 269 00:18:32.119 --> 00:18:34.480 Is that kind of the it's kind of it's kind 270 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:36.759 of the same as the order out of chaos, right. 271 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:41.319 Right right, And so these conspiracy theorists have these kind 272 00:18:41.319 --> 00:18:46.319 of religious beliefs about aliens and UFOs and they're using 273 00:18:46.359 --> 00:18:46.680 that room. 274 00:18:46.960 --> 00:18:51.319 See the newest episode of Joe Rogan, dude is on 275 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:56.039 there who worked by someplace called Dreamland. I guess it's 276 00:18:56.039 --> 00:18:58.519 out in the desert it was, and he ran into 277 00:18:58.680 --> 00:19:01.200 this this he saw this craft parked and he has 278 00:19:01.240 --> 00:19:04.200 a drawing, like a three D little little rendering of it, 279 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:07.160 and and everything. And the way this guy's telling the story, 280 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:08.799 I don't know, man, it seems like he's not. It 281 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:11.839 seems like he's he's telling the truth. I know it's 282 00:19:11.839 --> 00:19:15.480 probably a long shot, but uh, he's this this this 283 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:19.200 being that had no ears that was kind of bluish pale, 284 00:19:19.279 --> 00:19:23.759 and big eyes asked him for Ah, what was it? 285 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:25.839 It's a certain it's a certain kind. It's what makes 286 00:19:25.880 --> 00:19:28.119 our watches glow in the dark. It starts with a t. 287 00:19:28.359 --> 00:19:31.319 He thought he was asking for titanium, but like as 288 00:19:31.359 --> 00:19:33.799 he was asking him, he's sent like this energy to 289 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:37.240 him like I don't know, making him not so scared 290 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:38.960 of him. And then at the same time he tells 291 00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:41.160 him where to find some of it and he points 292 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:45.200 to the mountain and the alien sends him another like 293 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:49.680 this wave of like anger or disgust, and he's like, 294 00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:54.119 I'm not going over there where those animals are like yeah, yeah. 295 00:19:54.240 --> 00:19:56.759 And this guy is sitting there telling telling the story 296 00:19:56.759 --> 00:20:00.759 on Joe Rogan and he's, uh, I mean, should go 297 00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:04.079 listen to it? Man, should go watch it. I literally 298 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:08.240 twenty minutes before we sat down, I was watching it. 299 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:08.720 Interesting. 300 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:11.079 It could just be something to add on to the 301 00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:15.480 whole the whole alien thing. You know, there's the whole 302 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:18.880 JJ slow rolling in for some time now. 303 00:20:19.640 --> 00:20:22.400 There's a whole JJ perspective where he thinks that all 304 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:26.200 of these religious beliefs are based off of ancient alien 305 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:29.319 cargo cults. So it's at one point the aliens were 306 00:20:29.319 --> 00:20:32.000 around and we called them gods, and then when they left, 307 00:20:32.039 --> 00:20:34.359 we wanted to simulate what it was like to have 308 00:20:34.440 --> 00:20:37.799 them around, and so we created these belief structures based 309 00:20:37.799 --> 00:20:41.440 off of that. And so the idea with them using 310 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:47.640 the conspiracy theorists as the foil in this movie is there. 311 00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:50.720 They're pointing at them as being like the revival of 312 00:20:50.759 --> 00:20:54.519 that same sort of ancient alien cargo cult idea like 313 00:20:54.559 --> 00:20:58.000 these are the first people to have religion, is the 314 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:02.480 people in contact with the aliens? Right, and so they're the. 315 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:04.119 Right. 316 00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:09.680 Yeah, yeah, I think JJ's he's probably onto something there. 317 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:13.400 Well, in this case, it would be that the alien 318 00:21:14.039 --> 00:21:16.960 UFO theorists are now the priest kings of a new 319 00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:20.160 generation as they're doing the Bogonia ritual to get rid 320 00:21:20.160 --> 00:21:24.279 of this CEO that's you know, monopolizing and destroying the planet. 321 00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:31.160 So you still have that contrast that this this movie. 322 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:34.279 Is just the micro causm, right of something happening on 323 00:21:34.319 --> 00:21:39.039 a much larger scale. Okay, right, right. 324 00:21:39.160 --> 00:21:42.920 And so uh, you know the rustic Apollo, all the 325 00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:46.240 rustic guards are his, right, So he was taught all 326 00:21:46.319 --> 00:21:49.559 of the things. So he's a shepherd, he's a beat keeper, 327 00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:54.720 he's uh he keeps the birds happy. Yeah, Arstaus looks right. 328 00:21:55.200 --> 00:21:58.839 Kind of like a younger version of them. 329 00:21:59.279 --> 00:22:00.759 Well, he is the young girl Apollo. 330 00:22:01.359 --> 00:22:04.720 Okay, okay, yeah, So the one thing saying that it's 331 00:22:04.759 --> 00:22:07.440 the son of Apollo, one thing saying it's his cousin, 332 00:22:08.599 --> 00:22:12.960 you know, just means it's related to him basically. 333 00:22:13.279 --> 00:22:16.640 Right, right, right, right, So Apollo is the lord of light, 334 00:22:17.160 --> 00:22:21.559 and this guy is enlightening people as the methods of farming, 335 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:27.279 enlightening people with this this specific knowledge, right, Apollo would 336 00:22:27.319 --> 00:22:31.279 be general knowledge. He would be specific knowledge. Okay, this 337 00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:34.960 specific area of working. 338 00:22:35.079 --> 00:22:38.920 So yeah, I was gonna say Aristaeus, the Rustic god 339 00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:43.119 of beekeeping, cheesemaking, olive growing, and hunting. He was a 340 00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:48.440 companion of his divine cousin Dionysus. Huh, So I guess 341 00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:55.119 he's a cousin of Dionysus, son of Apollo. Yeah, man says, well, 342 00:22:55.160 --> 00:23:01.000 there's also another name. He's in here twice, once as 343 00:23:01.039 --> 00:23:04.640 a once is what I just read, and then the 344 00:23:04.680 --> 00:23:09.680 second time it says a giant. There was a giant 345 00:23:09.920 --> 00:23:13.759 with the same name in Greek mythology who fled the 346 00:23:13.799 --> 00:23:16.640 battle with the gods and was transformed into a dung beetle. 347 00:23:17.559 --> 00:23:24.599 It's interesting, very especially with the context of dung beetle 348 00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:25.759 in Egypt. 349 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:34.920 The scab, right, yeah, pushing the sun up the yeah, bro, yeah, 350 00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:36.799 but that's how. 351 00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:40.119 The nation crazy, that's how the nation has pushed forward. 352 00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:44.160 Is on the backs of these workers, who are you know, 353 00:23:44.680 --> 00:23:47.960 creating and producing the honey from these hives that they've 354 00:23:47.960 --> 00:23:51.799 got the rituals for that they've connected with the land for. 355 00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:54.279 So these are the people who are really pushing the 356 00:23:54.279 --> 00:23:55.720 empire forward, are pushing and. 357 00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:59.799 The yeah yeah, and so the scare beetles would shed 358 00:23:59.799 --> 00:24:03.480 their skin, right, they would leave behind like this. Uh, 359 00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:06.319 I don't know what it was. Maybe maybe I'm I'm 360 00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:12.039 thinking about something else actually, because dude, I mean, there 361 00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:15.599 was a what was it? It was an o Sirian 362 00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:19.319 Uh this episode I did on Osirius. I think it 363 00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:22.880 was like a year ago or something where I kind 364 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:25.480 of got into a little bit of like just the 365 00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:32.359 archetypal agricultural god. And then I think we ended the 366 00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:35.920 episode we watched like an hour long video or something. 367 00:24:35.960 --> 00:24:37.400 I don't know. It was back when I used to 368 00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:41.279 do solo streams. I missed those days. May start doing 369 00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:49.720 those again. Guys actually come prepared for those. But uh yeah, 370 00:24:49.799 --> 00:24:51.079 let me take this off real fast. 371 00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:55.200 Sorry, all right, that's the problem. But so you know, 372 00:24:55.319 --> 00:24:59.839 you could see why this guy is, you know, considered 373 00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:05.039 a minor god. Today we don't value any of the 374 00:25:05.079 --> 00:25:07.759 agricultural knowledge we don't pass it on, we don't even 375 00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:11.279 think about it. And this guy was central to life 376 00:25:11.319 --> 00:25:15.000 back then because he's the one. He's the keeper of 377 00:25:15.079 --> 00:25:20.759 all of this knowledge that keeps the entire empire rolling forward. Right, 378 00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:25.160 Everybody who needs to know anything is going to have 379 00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:30.680 this Aristaeus type character, teaching the law, teaching the Gorgics, 380 00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:34.119 teaching all of these things to future generations. And that's 381 00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:37.319 why you would put him in something like Virgil. Now, 382 00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:44.559 the Bogonia ritual is infinitely transformed, the more symbolic it becomes. 383 00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:48.519 So at first it's this this attempt to make bees 384 00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:52.400 come back to the world, right, and then you bring 385 00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:55.839 your your ox to the temple to be burned on 386 00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:58.240 an altar so that the fumes go up to heaven, 387 00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:01.119 so that in the same way that the bees are 388 00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:04.240 rising this, the smoke rises up to heaven and they 389 00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:07.200 know that you've left him offering for them, right. So 390 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:10.160 it's a symbolic transaction instead of a physical one. 391 00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:15.279 Yeah, okay, Yeah, the scareb was the uh read, it 392 00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:17.440 was the resurrection of the soul and a new life 393 00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:19.279 at the end of the immortal span. 394 00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:26.279 Yeah, so you could see why this guy would be 395 00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:30.440 kind of important, Right, There's there's this huge linkage that 396 00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:33.720 nobody really pays attention to because again, rustic things, they 397 00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:35.400 always get lost in the churn. 398 00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:38.480 Right. I was gonna say, I've never heard of them before, 399 00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:44.440 so and and I've I've done quite a lot of research, 400 00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:48.519 not as much into the the Greek pantheon, but uh, 401 00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:52.079