WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.759 --> 00:00:15.880 What's up, everybody. Mike is fixing a TV right now. 2 00:00:16.039 --> 00:00:18.800 This is the problem with live streaming. You figure it out. 3 00:00:19.559 --> 00:00:21.719 We're watching the stream on another TV to make sure 4 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:24.800 it works. And he hit the volume all the way 5 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:28.120 up so we would just repeat in the background. Christina 6 00:00:28.199 --> 00:00:30.160 says she called it and sent a text here and there. 7 00:00:30.199 --> 00:00:31.920 But we're here. Oh, I gotta turn your mic on. 8 00:00:32.039 --> 00:00:36.320 There we go, we're here. Andy's not cominguntil later. I'm 9 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:40.159 gonna actually remove that video, maybe hide it off in 10 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:42.960 the corner until he comes. There we go, all right, 11 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:44.439 it's weird. This is weird. 12 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:47.200 Starting at seven, the hosts of the National Park after 13 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:51.880 Dark will be joining us, and then from eight to eight. 14 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:54.280 Thirty, we've got the host some Crime off the Grid. 15 00:00:54.399 --> 00:00:55.280 So they were. 16 00:00:56.079 --> 00:00:59.359 Two law enforcement park rangers for thirty years in the 17 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:02.359 National Park system, so I'm really excited to talk to 18 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:04.840 them about their stories. 19 00:01:05.319 --> 00:01:07.319 If you put nice comments up, I'm just gonna throw 20 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:09.640 them up on the book. So if you want to 21 00:01:09.680 --> 00:01:12.120 be seen, just say really cool, nice things and I'll 22 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:12.760 throw it up there. 23 00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:17.640 And then from eight thirty to nine, we've got our 24 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:21.640 members only call that everyone can watch, and you could 25 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:24.200 still sign up for Patreon in the next hour and 26 00:01:24.680 --> 00:01:25.920 join that call if you'd like. 27 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:31.319 Oh, so this isn't like a marathon call in now, yeah. 28 00:01:31.159 --> 00:01:32.799 Oh, we do have a number that people can call in. 29 00:01:32.840 --> 00:01:34.200 We'll have to figure out on the fly how to 30 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:36.239 get that to work. And then from nine to ten. 31 00:01:36.319 --> 00:01:38.719 Andy should hopefully be here by then, and we're going 32 00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:40.840 to go through a bunch of voicemails we have and 33 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:43.879 just react to some comments and just. 34 00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:46.560 Andy just that they had a new baby. Yeah, so 35 00:01:46.640 --> 00:01:48.760 he's on daddy duty. He had to come a little 36 00:01:48.760 --> 00:01:50.439 bit later. Yeah, and our pizza is. 37 00:01:50.400 --> 00:01:52.200 Going to get delivered, like, yeah, we have food coming. 38 00:01:52.239 --> 00:01:54.040 It's gonna be a long night. And then we've got 39 00:01:54.280 --> 00:01:57.200 Evan to wrap it up. And he could talk for 40 00:01:57.239 --> 00:01:59.120 five hours probably yeah. 41 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:02.239 We yeah, we'll talk for the five hours. So yeah, awesome, 42 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:05.200 Here we go, Here we go. Add to stream. Hey Danielle, 43 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:05.640 what's up. 44 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:07.040 It's good to see you guys. 45 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:08.919 Good to see you too. How are you doing? 46 00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:14.919 Crazy busy? Cassie said, she's backstage. Oh you can see 47 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:16.800 all of us, so she's here. 48 00:02:17.080 --> 00:02:22.240 Okay, how you doing? Welcome to the show. 49 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:25.639 I was like blurred out in the back and then 50 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:27.560 could see you guys, and it's like I feel like 51 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:29.680 I'm eavesdropping on a conversation. 52 00:02:31.080 --> 00:02:32.520 That is awesome, though, no worries. 53 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:35.000 We we've been the first half hour we were just 54 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:36.520 getting our sea legs with the stream. 55 00:02:36.759 --> 00:02:38.520 Yeah, we're still figuring it out, but it's all right. 56 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:41.879 That's how we do things here. Just not coordinated at all. 57 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:45.120 All right, I think we're there. Mike, you're just really dark. 58 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:47.639 I know, I don't know what's going on. That's that's right. 59 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:52.479 You like it's just your shadow with your back. 60 00:02:52.719 --> 00:02:56.159 Yeah, smoking man from like one of those documentaries where 61 00:02:56.159 --> 00:02:57.800 I don't my face scene and I just talk. 62 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:01.159 So it looks like that. You just need one of 63 00:03:01.159 --> 00:03:07.680 those voiceovers where your voice is no. Yeah, absolutely, it 64 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:08.479 would be perfect. 65 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:09.800 Yeah. 66 00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:12.560 No, it's this time of day. We never record this early. 67 00:03:12.599 --> 00:03:14.879 It's always dark. As it gets darker, I'll up here. 68 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:18.080 All right. There's people who like your show more the 69 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:21.759 says I love NP eight. That's good. I was encourage it. 70 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:24.639 So hey, thanks for doing this. This is awesome. You 71 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:26.800 guys have been killing it recently. You got a new 72 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:28.520 show coming out. You want to just give us all 73 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:31.360 an update of what you've been up to and about 74 00:03:31.360 --> 00:03:31.919 your new show. 75 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:35.560 Yeah, well since the last time we talked, because we 76 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:39.560 talked last summer, right, yes, yeah, yeah, so a lot 77 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:41.039 has happened. 78 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:44.879 We've been all over the place. I moved again, which 79 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:45.599 is nothing new. 80 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:50.280 But yeah, we started a new show because we felt like, hey, 81 00:03:50.280 --> 00:03:52.520 we're busy six out of seven days a week, we 82 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:53.680 should bump that up. 83 00:03:54.000 --> 00:03:55.639 Right now we have a free day. 84 00:03:56.319 --> 00:03:58.080 Yeah. 85 00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:02.639 So yeah, Cassie was really the driving force behind our 86 00:04:02.759 --> 00:04:03.719 sister podcast. 87 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:05.439 It's called Watch Her Cook. 88 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:09.000 And for the last few years, we've just been finding 89 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:13.280 these stories of incredible women in our research for National 90 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:16.800 Park After Dark that maybe didn't fit the exact like 91 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:21.319 parameters of the existing show, but we kept coming across 92 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:23.439 them and putting them on the you know, on the 93 00:04:23.439 --> 00:04:26.920 back burner, saying we'll come back to you, and that's 94 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:28.360 why we began Watch Her Cook. 95 00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:31.959 No, that's fantastic. So how's the show going? I mean, 96 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:34.040 you've just was it? Did you start a couple of 97 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:35.920 weeks ago? You were launched it? How many episodes do 98 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:36.399 you have now? 99 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:42.319 We just really start fourth episode today. Yeah, we've been 100 00:04:42.399 --> 00:04:44.439 I guess technically this is our third week. 101 00:04:44.560 --> 00:04:47.839 We launched on April ninth, I believe but we launched 102 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:50.879 two episodes on the first day and then we had 103 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:54.319 two more come out since and we come out every Wednesday. 104 00:04:54.600 --> 00:04:54.879 Cool. 105 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:57.600 Well, and yeah, it helps that you guys have the 106 00:04:57.639 --> 00:05:02.120 really successful National p After Dark to kind of give 107 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:04.519 it that initial boost, because I remember when we started 108 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:08.920 out and we would have months where we'd get fifty downloads, 109 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:10.839 like ten of them are. 110 00:05:10.920 --> 00:05:14.519 Me Yeah just a loop? 111 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:17.879 Yeah, yes, well that's exciting. 112 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:21.199 How does the preparation because I go through this with 113 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:24.600 our show, But how is it different doing a show 114 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:27.199 on disappearances versus your new show? 115 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:32.519 I will say that this one, it's so different because 116 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:34.639 and I kind of felt like we had to start 117 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:37.160 a new podcast because none of these stories fit the 118 00:05:37.279 --> 00:05:41.680 narrative of National Parks. But they were all very warranted 119 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:46.920 of store of telling the stories themselves, but very different 120 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:50.560 because they're not all outdoor based. Yeah, and it's all 121 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:53.920 surrounding women, which obviously National Park after Dark is not. 122 00:05:54.199 --> 00:05:58.120 We tell stories of everything and anything that is outdoor related. 123 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:01.680 And also, I will say in National Park after Dark, 124 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:05.959 we really lean into the darker things, and with Watch 125 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:09.040 Her Cook, we do lean into the darker things, and 126 00:06:09.079 --> 00:06:11.759 that's definitely going to be more apparent as episodes come out, 127 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:15.759 but we're also leaning into more of the more of 128 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:19.040 the inspiring stories and the people who kind of beat 129 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:23.399 the odds and maybe not so much devastating like disaster stories, 130 00:06:23.439 --> 00:06:26.519 where there's actually some good outcomes that happen in Watch 131 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:29.839 Her Cook, which isn't as popular of a theme in 132 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:31.040 National Park after Dark. 133 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:33.680 I'm sure good for your mental health though, So it's 134 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:35.920 just not always doom and gloom all the time. 135 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:40.360 Yeah, it's very characteristic of like, it's very telling of 136 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:45.319 our personalities too. I'm the black Cat to Cassie's Golden Retrievers, 137 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:50.759 So Watch Your Cook is very Cassie coded with like, 138 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:53.680 look at all this amazing stuff, and I'm like, yeah, 139 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:56.639 but death, no one died. 140 00:06:59.040 --> 00:06:59.319 Nice. 141 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:02.600 It's nice to have that balance because it, you know, 142 00:07:02.759 --> 00:07:06.279 it does as you very well know, these stories are 143 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:10.360 heavy that you're researching and just like dedicating weeks of 144 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:13.199 your life to researching and when it's doom and gloom 145 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:16.439 a lot, it takes an actual toll on your life and. 146 00:07:16.279 --> 00:07:17.399 Your mental health. 147 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:21.279 So this is a nice additive to lighten the load 148 00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:21.800 a little bit. 149 00:07:22.079 --> 00:07:24.480 Yeah, it's fantastic. We have a front of ours that 150 00:07:24.600 --> 00:07:28.720 worked on crime Junkies, and she said it literally is 151 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:31.720 like a mental health issue when you're looking at crime 152 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:33.600 scene photos all the time and you have like these 153 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:36.720 workers who are researching, they would take like mental health 154 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:39.399 breaks because you're just looking at death and crime scenes constantly, 155 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:42.120 and like that's not good for people to see all 156 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:42.639 the time. 157 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:46.680 That is part of like when we went into Watch 158 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:48.600 Her Cook, too, I think a big part of it 159 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:50.839 is just as women, when you're looking at all these 160 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:55.600 true crime stories, unfortunately a majority of them are involving 161 00:07:55.639 --> 00:07:59.160 women who are victims. And with Watch Her Cook, it 162 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:02.959 was this moment where were we like true crime just 163 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:05.519 like the rest of us, we all consume it because 164 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:08.199 there is an interest there, but at the same time, 165 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:10.800 we were kind of tired of this narrative that women 166 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:13.519 are victims, and we wanted to change that narrative and 167 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:15.319 be like, wait a minute, there are all of these 168 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:18.040 stories of women that are in such a different role 169 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:20.240 that are powerful. Maybe they're not the victims at all, 170 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:21.519 maybe they're the perpetrators. 171 00:08:21.519 --> 00:08:22.839 You know, Like it's just. 172 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:28.879 We wanted to paint women in their full like multifaceted 173 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:33.360 selves versus just these victim narratives. That are often portrayed 174 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:36.080 and even in our own show. So we found Watch 175 00:08:36.080 --> 00:08:39.720 Her Cook as a way to really bring these stories forward. 176 00:08:40.519 --> 00:08:43.360 It's fantastic. That's awesome. So I'm glad you got it. 177 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:45.519 Go on. I'm glad we can direct everyone who doesn't 178 00:08:45.519 --> 00:08:48.679 already know, which I'm sure they do. But if you don't, 179 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:50.799 go subscribe to Watch Your Cook right now. 180 00:08:51.360 --> 00:08:55.440 I've actually had a few comments on various episodes of 181 00:08:55.600 --> 00:08:59.519 people after our last talk last summer where they actually 182 00:08:59.559 --> 00:09:02.080 discover your show for the first time from us, which 183 00:09:02.120 --> 00:09:03.120 I was kind of shocked. 184 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:06.840 So you got like three or four people. 185 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:10.679 You're welcome, so thank you so much. 186 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:15.399 So before our call, I was kind of looking through 187 00:09:15.399 --> 00:09:17.799 your instagram, your show's instagram, just to see what you 188 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:20.360 were up to, and I was scrolling down and I 189 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:23.879 saw a picture of you guys in Antarctica, So yeah, 190 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:28.879 could I could you fill us in on what you 191 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:31.320 were doing down there, like how that came about and 192 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:34.399 what your experience was like, because I would love to 193 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:36.759 go there at some point, but it's seems like a 194 00:09:36.759 --> 00:09:37.600 tough place to get to. 195 00:09:38.559 --> 00:09:41.519 Well, we can, I can take I'll take the topic 196 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:44.679 of how it came about and speak to the experience 197 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:49.399 part because GEUS like Antarctica's number one fan. As far 198 00:09:49.440 --> 00:09:51.720 as how it came about, I think we talked a 199 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:55.320 little bit the last time about our group trips that 200 00:09:55.360 --> 00:09:58.639 we do with National Park After Dark listeners, and that 201 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:01.320 was one of them. So we took a group of 202 00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:05.120 fourteen listeners down to the bottom of the world through 203 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:09.559 our group trip. We launched it two years ago, so 204 00:10:10.279 --> 00:10:13.159 it went on sale two years ago and finally came 205 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:17.519 to fruition. Obviously, it was a really involved and big trip, 206 00:10:17.720 --> 00:10:21.600 not just because it's Antarctica, but just logistically getting there 207 00:10:21.639 --> 00:10:24.399 and organizing it and all of that. But yeah, so 208 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:27.480 we flew we all flew down to Ushuaia, which is 209 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:31.200 the southernmost point of South America, and then we took 210 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:37.159 a ship from across Drake's Passage to the Antarctic Peninsula, 211 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:39.639 where we spent most of our time while we were 212 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:41.440 down there, and then came off. 213 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:43.480 So did it take two years to fill the trip? 214 00:10:44.240 --> 00:10:45.960 No, it took one minute. 215 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:51.279 Oh really, that's awesome. That was all just logistics and planning. 216 00:10:51.799 --> 00:10:55.039 Yeah, and just giving time for people to prep and 217 00:10:55.480 --> 00:10:59.000 of course it's a huge trip, not just like taking 218 00:10:59.039 --> 00:11:02.200 the time off and upping, but also like it's a 219 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:06.399 big monetary expense like for everybody involved, So just giving 220 00:11:06.399 --> 00:11:08.960 people time to make payments and do that. 221 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:11.799 We would never just be like, Okay, well you need 222 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:12.519 to pay us. 223 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:16.200 Right now or you can't come take some time, like 224 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:18.039 we all need time to figure this out. 225 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:21.399 So yeah, that's why there was such a big lead time. 226 00:11:22.039 --> 00:11:23.960 So did you see that? Did you see the ice 227 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:26.960 walls that? Because you know it's flat earth and did 228 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:27.240 you Guys? 229 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:30.480 A few people said that to me when I came 230 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:31.799 back and like, I don't get it. 231 00:11:32.879 --> 00:11:36.759 You've never heard of this. It's apparently Inca was just 232 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:39.279 a big ice wall keeping everything from falling off into 233 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:40.039 space or whatever. 234 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:44.080 Now I know, yeah, beforehand. 235 00:11:44.360 --> 00:11:48.279 Yeah, and there's there's allegedly like an alien. 236 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:55.159 Yeah, you guys could have done a whole episode on 237 00:11:55.200 --> 00:11:59.840 that and got a whole new genre of listener, the conspiracy. Yes, 238 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:03.879 So what was Each of you can answer this? What 239 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:05.799 was your favorite thing about Antarctica? 240 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:12.120 Go for it, Cassie me Y, Yeah, or do I 241 00:12:12.360 --> 00:12:17.159 start everything about it? 242 00:12:17.759 --> 00:12:21.279 I think that one of my favorite parts about Antarctica 243 00:12:21.879 --> 00:12:24.080 was I knew when we booked the trip that when 244 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:25.720 I got there that it was going to be breathtaking 245 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:27.159 and it was going to be beautiful, and it was 246 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:29.240 going to be like it was going to be unlike 247 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:32.000 anywhere else that I had ever been. But I didn't 248 00:12:32.039 --> 00:12:34.480 really realize the magnitude of that until I was looking 249 00:12:34.480 --> 00:12:38.039 at it. And it is a trip that I will 250 00:12:38.200 --> 00:12:40.519 always It's the best place I've ever been in my life. 251 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:43.720 But I think one of the things that makes it 252 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:48.519 so special is that it's truly untouched, minus a couple 253 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:52.120 like science stations that are around. It's truly untouched, and 254 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:56.159 you are immersed in the wildlife that's there. You know, 255 00:12:56.480 --> 00:12:59.799 we were Danielle and I did part of the trip. 256 00:12:59.799 --> 00:13:03.519 We went paddle boarding, and I was paddle boarding. 257 00:13:04.039 --> 00:13:05.799 And well, we were all were We were. 258 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:08.879 In a group and there were just penguins just swimming 259 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:12.200 around us. And then at another point there's a furst 260 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:15.720 seal that's just spinning and having a nice time swimming 261 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:20.000 alongside us, and then you just look and there's just there's. 262 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:22.519 A whale over in the other corner. 263 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:26.879 It's just it was so beautiful and it was really quiet, 264 00:13:27.039 --> 00:13:30.720 but there was nothing, There were no big structures, there 265 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:34.080 was no just it wasn't spoiled by people. 266 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:39.519 Yeah, you could be mindful for once. Yeah, that's fantastic. 267 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:41.279 That sounds amazing. You sold me. I want to go 268 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:47.639 paddle boarding in Antarctica. You should, Danielle. Danielle was your favorite? 269 00:13:49.480 --> 00:13:53.039 Oh god, I have a I definitely have a couple 270 00:13:53.159 --> 00:13:57.519 favorite moments, but overall, I think my favorite part of 271 00:13:57.559 --> 00:14:03.279 the entire trip, aside from what Cassie is being somewhere 272 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:06.919 and traveling somewhere where we were. 273 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:08.879 So how do I say this? 274 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:14.000 Everything about that trip was how we need to be 275 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:18.039 good stewards of this area and this landscape or you're 276 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:18.600 not going. 277 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:22.120 It's like there is no this is a suggestion. 278 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:23.840 Like hey, you should probably pick up your trash, and 279 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:27.559 you know, don't approach a wildlife but like people still do, 280 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:31.480 Like they are so dead serious about that stuff, and 281 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:34.879 it is so refreshing to see. And there are so 282 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:38.480 many laws and regulations and parameters put in place for 283 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:43.480 visitors down there that are just so nice to see 284 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:49.639 taken so seriously by everybody, visitors and expedition leaders and everybody. 285 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:54.360 Everything from going through biosecurity, like anything in your outer 286 00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:57.360 layer from your hats, your scarves, your gloves to everything 287 00:14:57.399 --> 00:15:01.320 you're wearing needs to be vacuumed, depart for any lint 288 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:06.200 or anything that could blow off and potentially impact the environment. 289 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:09.240 Like before you step off the shift the ship, you 290 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:10.039 need to do that. 291 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:12.480 You need to sanitize your feet before you leave and 292 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:16.639 when you come back, like it is just so it's 293 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:19.639 just so thorough and on our way down they took 294 00:15:19.679 --> 00:15:21.399 a lot of time because it took two and a 295 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:23.240 half days to get down there by boat. 296 00:15:23.720 --> 00:15:25.519 They took that opportunity. 297 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:29.320 To really educate the entire ship about the importance of 298 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:33.360 that stuff and why that those parameters are put in place, 299 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:36.279 And it was just really nice because you don't see 300 00:15:36.279 --> 00:15:40.320 that anywhere else. It's always about people's experience and there 301 00:15:40.399 --> 00:15:44.759 it's like we are privileged to be there and we 302 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:48.279 are just visitors and we need to be super respectful 303 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:50.440 of such a fragile ecosystem. 304 00:15:51.320 --> 00:15:54.360 Oh yeah, that was really cool to see place that's fantastic. 305 00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:56.360 And that just means when you get there, how you 306 00:15:56.399 --> 00:16:00.200 describe your experience untouched. That's time they maintain that don't 307 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:02.000 show up and there's just like a TwixT wrapper just 308 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:03.480 floating around in the middle of Antarctica. 309 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:06.919 And it's a really unique place to go because there's 310 00:16:06.960 --> 00:16:09.399 really not anywhere else I can think of that you 311 00:16:09.399 --> 00:16:13.639 can really claim is still pristine and untouched anymore, which 312 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:16.279 is sad to say. Even Joe and I talked about 313 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:18.200 this all the time. How mad I get when I'm 314 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:21.039 I've been out hiking and I see garbage, yes, in 315 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:22.799 the parks, and like I'll pick it up and throw 316 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:23.240 it at my bag. 317 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:24.879 Yeah, we always come back with more stuff. 318 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:26.720 Yeah, I always come back with more garbage than I 319 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:30.759 even brought with. And yeah, it's just that kind of 320 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:33.679 takes away some of the being out there is you 321 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:36.559 see in all this garbage everywhere, and so that's got 322 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:39.200 to be really amazing to be somewhere where it literally 323 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:43.600 is pristine and clean and people actually are trying to 324 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:44.120 protect it. 325 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:45.759 So that's awesome. 326 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:49.440 Yeah, And we when we went down like at the 327 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:52.320 in Ushweia, obviously it's a big port town, Like there's 328 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:54.440 a bunch there's a bunch of ships that were all 329 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:57.879 gearing up to head down there at some point. But 330 00:16:58.080 --> 00:17:02.039 after we left that harbor, we didn't see anybody else. 331 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:04.279 I we never saw anybody else. 332 00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:06.720 So the people that were on the ship there was 333 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:11.200 what one hundred and ninety nine passengers aside from them, 334 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:16.960 not another human, not another ship, a boat building. 335 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:18.359 That had people in it. Like, there's a. 336 00:17:18.359 --> 00:17:20.880 Couple of stations that we saw that were literally overtaken 337 00:17:20.880 --> 00:17:23.480 by penguins, like a million of penguins. 338 00:17:23.880 --> 00:17:28.319 Yeah, that's awesome, crushing it was so cool. 339 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:30.880 How big are the penguins? Were they like Emperor penguins, 340 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:32.119 the ones to get like four feet tall. 341 00:17:32.200 --> 00:17:34.160 Sometimes we didn't see those. 342 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:37.680 We saw like Gentoo's and Adeli's Like, I don't know, 343 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:38.319 I like this big. 344 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:41.200 That's still cool like that those are pretty that's pretty 345 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:43.000 big now, bigger than ones I see at the zoo, 346 00:17:43.000 --> 00:17:46.960 that's for sure. Yeah. Yeah, How was the weather while 347 00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:49.640 you were there? Was it cold? Yeah, well, obviously cold, 348 00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:51.240 but there's degrees of cold. 349 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:54.920 To be honest, it wasn't that bad. There were days. 350 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:56.680 I think one of the days were there was like 351 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:00.599 thirty four degrees, so it really it was it's definitely 352 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:05.720 winter weather down there, but it really wasn't like we 353 00:18:05.759 --> 00:18:09.799 wore jackets and sometimes we had something over our mouth 354 00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:12.079 or something, but for the most part, I think it 355 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:13.960 was between like fifteen and. 356 00:18:13.920 --> 00:18:15.480 Thirty four degrees. The whole time we were there. 357 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:17.880 It was like winter weather for us, but it was 358 00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:18.599 their summer. 359 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:21.960 Okay, Yeah, it was warmer in Antarctica than it was 360 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:22.519 in Vermont. 361 00:18:23.680 --> 00:18:25.319 That's that's actually really funny. 362 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:30.039 Yeah, it happens here too, where it'll be warmer in Anchorage, Alaska. 363 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:31.519 Did you guys have a trip coming up in the 364 00:18:31.559 --> 00:18:34.759 beginning of May. We do, Yeah, you have. One of 365 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:36.319 your fans says, we'll see on May third. 366 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:41.200 So actually, well Friday going a little early, but we're 367 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:43.079 going to Joshua Tree and we're doing an event there 368 00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:44.039 with some listeners. 369 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:47.680 Oh that's awesome. That's cool. So what's that event about. 370 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:50.599 We're doing a live show and so we're going to 371 00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:52.559 Excellent Podcast and. 372 00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:55.359 Then we're doing a camp weekend that has a believe 373 00:18:55.400 --> 00:18:58.400 of sixty or sixty six people. We're all going to 374 00:18:58.480 --> 00:19:01.039 camp for the weekend and we have hikes and some 375 00:19:01.279 --> 00:19:04.039 little fun things to do, some campfire stuff for the 376 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:05.279 weekend in Joshua Tree. 377 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:08.200 That's really awesome. That's so cool. So you guys are 378 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:10.240 just doing this full time now, right. I think when 379 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:13.039 we first started talking you were kind of in between, 380 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:15.319 but you're just all in now on this and it's 381 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:18.119 going real Well, yeah, that's fantastic. 382 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:21.319 We don't have time for, not enough hours in the day. 383 00:19:22.759 --> 00:19:26.119 Do you still love it for sure? Then there you go. 384 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:27.880 That's all that matters, that's what you need to do. 385 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:30.759 That's awesome. You do have a question from a fan 386 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:33.559 from Holly Eckland. I'm new to hiking getting my feet wet? 387 00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:38.680 Which was each of your scariest hiking experiences? And you've 388 00:19:38.759 --> 00:19:44.160 encountered animals, elements, et cetera. So Daniel, you. 389 00:19:43.440 --> 00:19:46.759 Do you want to know our scariest moments. 390 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:50.079 Our scariest moments hiking. 391 00:19:49.960 --> 00:19:53.960 Yeah, or experiences, whether it's encountered animals, yeah, anything outdoor? 392 00:19:54.079 --> 00:19:56.519 What was your scariest experiences? 393 00:19:57.880 --> 00:19:59.599 The one that comes to mind right off the bat. 394 00:19:59.599 --> 00:20:02.200 It wasn't exactly like I wasn't scared to death, but 395 00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:04.680 it definitely shook me up a little bit. I was 396 00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:08.720 living in Washington State at the time with my partner Ian, 397 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:12.640 and we there's a hike out there that everybody in 398 00:20:12.759 --> 00:20:13.920 Washington is very familiar with. 399 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:15.400 It's called Mailbox Peak. 400 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:19.160 And it's brutal and you usually have to get up 401 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:21.680