Speaker 1: Oh that's are.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the show. This is the Cults
Speaker 2: of Conspiracy and my name is Jonathan Job and tonight
Speaker 2: is another live member for the Cult members.
Speaker 3: Baby, fuck you, let's go.
Speaker 2: It's that time. It is that time. So we're welcoming
Speaker 2: in everybody. We had a bunch of people waiting at
Speaker 2: the ethereal Internet were and you are now welcome into
Speaker 2: the Cult. How I just want to know, just from
Speaker 2: an outsider's perspective, you know, I want to know what
Speaker 2: it's like to be in a cult. You know, whenever
Speaker 2: you go and you tell people that your your favorite
Speaker 2: podcast is the Cult of Conspiracy, do they just assume
Speaker 2: that you have just gone right off the deep end?
Speaker 3: I mean, I kind of hope so in one regard,
Speaker 3: But then I'm also hoping that people kind of take
Speaker 3: it like wait, what now, and then you explain it
Speaker 3: to podcast and then maybe they're just curious enough to
Speaker 3: check it out. I'm hoping that's the way it goes.
Speaker 3: But you know, it's a little catchy, I think. So
Speaker 3: we've gotten that compliment a few times, and I'm always like, dude,
Speaker 3: that was Jonathan. I came late to this game. He
Speaker 3: had a stroke of genius when he named.
Speaker 2: It this shout out to see him punk with the
Speaker 2: cult of personality. Well, he didn't create that song.
Speaker 3: I have to say, bro, what I'm not a huge.
Speaker 2: Fantasy and punk by the way, I just liked the song.
Speaker 2: So that's really how that came to be.
Speaker 3: A cult of personality is basically when you surround yourself
Speaker 3: with yes men, right, think of Donnie t think of
Speaker 3: Juja Ping, think of putin these guys who basically have
Speaker 3: nobody telling them that what they're saying sounds like a
Speaker 3: really dumb idea, and they're all yes men because they're
Speaker 3: either afraid or they're wanting to keep their positions. So
Speaker 3: that is a cult of personality, right. So when the
Speaker 3: song came out, that's what it was all about. It was,
Speaker 3: you know, the whole Cold War and shit, which I
Speaker 3: gotta tell you, I know that's like one of the
Speaker 3: most eighties songs to ever be put together. If you
Speaker 3: look at the music video, dude, the song itself is
Speaker 3: a fucking bop. It's still is. It goes hard as
Speaker 3: Helle Even.
Speaker 2: Today, as I tell my daughter, it's damn near a
Speaker 2: bipity bob.
Speaker 3: Bro, I'm stealing that I'm stealing there. There's some of
Speaker 3: those old songs that I say, like, oh, bro, it's
Speaker 3: a fucking bop. No, it's a it's a bibity bop.
Speaker 3: I fuck with it, bopity boo.
Speaker 2: I'm getting getting over to the chat here, the white
Speaker 2: Boy Wizard with your glorious mustage. Sir, you are looking
Speaker 2: quite dapper, my good man.
Speaker 3: Indeed, indeed, doank you, sir. Good evening, gentlemen.
Speaker 2: Good evening. Uh, I'll I'll call Alex okay, welcome cal
Speaker 2: Alex alcool Alex so Hello, y'all. Fagots. Oh wait, this
Speaker 2: ain't alcoholics anonymous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been there, done that aa for quitters. It's annoying,
Speaker 3: although I say that I did quit drinking. But yeah
Speaker 3: no I AA. God, you want to talk about a
Speaker 3: depressing group of individuals, Lord of Mercy, it do be
Speaker 3: that way. Uh.
Speaker 2: Stephanie said, it's Tuesday cold, tam your god damn right,
Speaker 2: it is. Yes, indeed, listen Luke said, Uh, Jonathan, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna need you to hurry up and get back from
Speaker 2: the cruise so we can do this episode. We are
Speaker 2: about to shred a part NASA looking down dirty to me, daddy,
Speaker 2: that's what I like to hear.
Speaker 3: I'm so down for this bro. So yeah, on his
Speaker 3: crews next week. As soon as he gets back, we're
Speaker 3: gonna get back on to the scheduling of the things
Speaker 3: and the stuff really going.
Speaker 2: This weekend. Saturday is when we get on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true, you leave. Yeah, so you're gonna be
Speaker 3: gone Saturday till Wednesday Thursday.
Speaker 2: I think, fuck, yeah, dude, So he goes. Also, I
Speaker 2: remember y'all said that the cylinders under the pyramid were
Speaker 2: said to possibly be made out of tungsten, Just so
Speaker 2: everyone knows. That means that just these cylinders alone would
Speaker 2: weigh thirty one million metric tons.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I we did not say that these quote
Speaker 3: unquote experts who found them said that they may be
Speaker 3: made out of tungsten. They're reasoning behind that nothing because
Speaker 3: just because and then the entire image itself is AI generated,
Speaker 3: And the way we know it's true is because AI
Speaker 3: never lies. And it's like, dude, I want it so
Speaker 3: hard for this to be more than that. But yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I'm still of the belief that look, even if they're iron, right,
Speaker 3: not even steel, Even if they are iron, that rewrites
Speaker 3: everything we know about human history because to our knowledge
Speaker 3: quote unquote, Egypt never entered the Iron Age in that
Speaker 3: way when the pyramids are being built, right, So if
Speaker 3: there's stone kind of ride along track with what we thought,
Speaker 3: it's just a little extra nuance that we didn't know about.
Speaker 3: If they're made out of like almost any other material
Speaker 3: aside from like copper, a bronze, that fucks up the
Speaker 3: entire timeline, which I'm excited to find out more. To
Speaker 3: be honest with.
Speaker 2: You, Actually, you're everybody's wrong. Thooth made them out of
Speaker 2: the extra pieces that he had from his com crown.
Speaker 4: Ah.
Speaker 3: Of course, of course, God, that's what this is. It's
Speaker 3: like excess com drippings from the gods that like solidified.
Speaker 2: I mean gravity, dude, you know sometimes just gonna go underground.
Speaker 3: Gravity. Man, It's just like if she can't get pregnant
Speaker 3: if she's on top, right, because like what goes up
Speaker 3: must come down. That's science science.
Speaker 2: Hey, we don't make the rules around here. We just finally, you.
Speaker 3: Know, physics. You know, I didn't do that. What to do,
Speaker 3: my dude?
Speaker 5: I understand if I would one hundred percent believe more
Speaker 5: that it was the story of Thoth that did that
Speaker 5: than them to be made out of tungsten, because if
Speaker 5: they are made out of tungsten, forget everything that you
Speaker 5: know about everything in general. Like you you don't even
Speaker 5: know what you actually had for like dinner last night. Yeah,
Speaker 5: like that's that's how much this would change everything.
Speaker 2: Actually, I hope that it actually is made out of
Speaker 2: tungsten now so people can start to realize that this
Speaker 2: reality ain't what the fuck you thought it ever was.
Speaker 5: If they so, if they were made out of tungsten,
Speaker 5: they could actually affect the rotation of the Earth if
Speaker 5: it rotates.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's how much this ship weighs.
Speaker 3: The only people believe that it rotates.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gay, sir, I believe we'll get there. We'll
Speaker 6: get there, trust me.
Speaker 3: I'm excited. But no, I agree with you Brown it
Speaker 3: it's not. Yeah, tungsten is one of them. But like
Speaker 3: same could be said if they were made out of
Speaker 3: nickel or titanium or name any other kind of metal
Speaker 3: or alloy that came about in the last five hundred years.
Speaker 3: If they were made out of that, it like everything's fucked,
Speaker 3: Like every every bit of history, every bit of knowledge,
Speaker 3: every bit of oh well, you know, according to the expert,
Speaker 3: it's gone all gone.
Speaker 2: Although to be fair, I would say anything buried beneath
Speaker 2: the pyramids is pretty awesome, right buck. If it was
Speaker 2: you know, just regular rock, like if they were able
Speaker 2: to carve them out and put them there on purpose,
Speaker 2: underneath the pyramids, whatever the fucking's made out of, it's
Speaker 2: pretty badass.
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely is. But I mean there's certain things that
Speaker 3: this could change history, or it could confirm history. That's
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. If these are made out of glass,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, it doesn't rewrite history, it
Speaker 3: definitely adds new levels to it because we didn't know
Speaker 3: they could work glass to that scale, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. There's it depends on all it's made out
Speaker 3: of and all that. But the whole thing with those
Speaker 3: dudes on TikTok talking about them finding bodies in the
Speaker 3: cubes and all that, the way that that got so
Speaker 3: famous so fast and went so viral, actually kind of
Speaker 3: bothered me because that many people believed it and shared it,
Speaker 3: not even thinking like, hey, how in the hell do
Speaker 3: they drill down in one week that deep? We don't
Speaker 3: have equipment that can do that, and this guy's doing
Speaker 3: it allegedly and we need to make a TikTok about it.
Speaker 2: It's like, bro, there the people that took those radar scans,
Speaker 2: that was a couple of years ago, so we don't
Speaker 2: it wasn't necessarily that was this guy saying that he
Speaker 2: drilled in a day or what.
Speaker 3: He said this week. And if you look at the
Speaker 3: story of it, basically as soon as they went viral,
Speaker 3: this team started digging and they made it to the
Speaker 3: bottom and they got down there and there was bodies
Speaker 3: floating in a blue liquid and da da da dah.
Speaker 3: It's like, so wait he started a week ago, my boy,
Speaker 3: my brother in Christ. That's like, actually impossible to do
Speaker 3: anything that you're claiming right now. But so many people
Speaker 3: on TikTok are like, oh no way, It's like not please, y'all,
Speaker 3: please use the fucking brainstem God put in your head.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, Nicholas, what's going on with these pyramids?
Speaker 7: Sir?
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts? Do you think it's all fake
Speaker 2: news or you think there's something to it.
Speaker 8: Well, I've been saying for a long time that you know,
Speaker 8: the Pleadians are the ones who made them to begin with,
Speaker 8: and cabs addressed it as far as what's going on underneath,
Speaker 8: and you know, quite a few other things. And what's
Speaker 8: interesting too is that there was I don't know if
Speaker 8: you've seen anything about China they had detected over the
Speaker 8: top of the pyramids with like they've got like some
Speaker 8: super radar and they're detecting like plasma bubbles in the
Speaker 8: atmosphere at like nine thousand feet above the pyramids.
Speaker 4: I have not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's new to me.
Speaker 8: Yeah, just look up China radar plasma bubble above the
Speaker 8: Pyramids and Giza, and it just it's just another like
Speaker 8: you know, whenever you go and look into this stuff,
Speaker 8: it's like all the roads I mean, from my perspective,
Speaker 8: all the roads lead back to you know, the Galactic
Speaker 8: Federation or you know that humans didn't build it, couldn't
Speaker 8: build it, and you know, one way or another, I
Speaker 8: think people will start accepting that, you know, we add
Speaker 8: to that a little bit of assistance.
Speaker 2: Well, the old adage of where we're going we won't
Speaker 2: need roads themes about right in this case.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I heard something. I think they said that they
Speaker 8: could they could have made the pyramids all one piece
Speaker 8: if they wanted to, but that would have been too obvious.
Speaker 2: Wow, it is interesting.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: I think that there's whenever you start looking into a
Speaker 2: lot of the you know, the Egyptian lore, and then
Speaker 2: you start looking at all the different religions and all
Speaker 2: the different myths and spiritualities across the world, and some
Speaker 2: of them seem to intersect weirdly. Not saying that they're
Speaker 2: all the same story obviously, you know there are there
Speaker 2: are some stark differences, but it is strange, you know,
Speaker 2: like did I just wonder did somebody steal it from
Speaker 2: somebody else? Or was there some kind of spiritual being
Speaker 2: that was roaming the earth going and telling all these
Speaker 2: different people all these pretty similar stories just in their words.
Speaker 3: I mean, what do you mean by the similar stories
Speaker 3: because they're all building pyramids?
Speaker 2: Well, not just that, I mean just all over the place.
Speaker 2: Whenever it comes to like like there we've brought up
Speaker 2: before about how some religions are really close, like some
Speaker 2: of the stories, right, like about like the story I'm
Speaker 2: not going to go into the whole religious thing here,
Speaker 2: but like the story of Jesus, about how there are
Speaker 2: similar things that are going on in other religions as well.
Speaker 2: And so that's why I'm I'm just like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think that we just got to question this reality
Speaker 2: as much as humanly possible. That way, keep an open mind,
Speaker 2: open your third eye, except whatever the truth may be,
Speaker 2: in whatever the case it is, I just love going
Speaker 2: into those kind of rabbit holes. I mean, to be fair,
Speaker 2: I didn't grow up in any religion, so you know,
Speaker 2: that's why. I know some people like to think that
Speaker 2: I'm blasphemous whenever I have thoughts like this, but I
Speaker 2: don't mean it intentionally. I don't mean to upset anybody
Speaker 2: like this. That's just I didn't grow up in that crowd.
Speaker 3: No, I get that I do, But I mean, like
Speaker 3: I said earlier, I can't wait for them to do
Speaker 3: more exploring. And I really really wish that they would
Speaker 3: do the exact same scan that they did on the
Speaker 3: Pyramids on a cave system that we already know and
Speaker 3: has been mapped out, if anything, that would solidify the claim.
Speaker 3: These dudes went on and on about how free it
Speaker 3: was for them to pull these scans and all this stuff.
Speaker 3: So if it's free, have them do it somewhere else
Speaker 3: to prove that, Yo, this is what's down there. The
Speaker 3: scans are proving it ba ba bab. They just are not.
Speaker 3: It's it's I don't know. I'm hoping that more research
Speaker 3: gets done in this matter and that it's not just
Speaker 3: one of those uh ooh look over here, look over here,
Speaker 3: and then it goes away forever. Because the other side
Speaker 3: of that conspiracy coin is that all of these things
Speaker 3: are being dropped around the same time that America and
Speaker 3: the world governments anyway are doing a lot of shit
Speaker 3: that they don't want run on the news, so they're
Speaker 3: trying to run this instead to distract people. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: we know that they do. Like, that's not a new
Speaker 3: thing for the government to do. Look over here, while
Speaker 3: I do this over here. So I mean, I don't
Speaker 3: know what to make of it. The same time that
Speaker 3: the Pyramids were getting all this hype all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: did you hear that the CI found the Ark of
Speaker 3: the Covenant? You mean, the thing that they talked about
Speaker 3: in the eighties with the project Starbeam, And we did
Speaker 3: a whole episode on that or Stargate Sunbeam wherever the fuck.
Speaker 3: That's the group that had like a ninety eight percent
Speaker 3: success rate for astra projection. But that ninety eight percent
Speaker 3: was audited by themselves. It's like the Irs auditing the
Speaker 3: irs and finding no faults, and shit, well they found
Speaker 3: the ark of the Covenant and this and this. If
Speaker 3: you look at the reports and you look at the
Speaker 3: drawings and all this stuff, it's like close, but no
Speaker 3: cigar on any of the points. But why did that
Speaker 3: go viral? Right? Because the algorithm was pushed to make
Speaker 3: it go viral. Same thing with this pyramid situation that
Speaker 3: was done two years ago. But I think it's I
Speaker 3: think it's definitely interesting to talk about, for sure, But
Speaker 3: it's like, this is the stuff that we talk about
Speaker 3: all the time. We talk about the pyramids all the time.
Speaker 3: We've talked about the Arc of the Covenant multiple times,
Speaker 3: but only in the last two or three weeks has
Speaker 3: it become quote unquote famous slash viral on the Tiki Talks.
Speaker 3: I think there's a reason for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think that a lot of this
Speaker 2: stuff is going to be hidden for a very long time.
Speaker 2: Maybe none of it ever actually comes out, you know,
Speaker 2: like we can all speculate it's one of the what
Speaker 2: is it, seven Wonders of the World or whatever. As
Speaker 2: far as the pyramids go, there's a lot of theories.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of stories, there's a lot of what ifs,
Speaker 2: and we can all speculate.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Some people think, well, it's so easy. All they had
Speaker 2: to do was just let the let the big bricks
Speaker 2: sail in the water and then make a sloppy sand
Speaker 2: ramp to push all of the the big boulders up
Speaker 2: the pyramid. And I don't know, maybe that's maybe that's possible.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't I'm not like some construction
Speaker 2: type of guy, but I just I don't know. I
Speaker 2: believe that there has to be something mystical there, but
Speaker 2: also it's possibly because I want to believe that it's
Speaker 2: something rsal too, So you know, I might be a
Speaker 2: little biased in that.
Speaker 3: Yo. So I just watched this thing about the bast
Speaker 3: Pro Pyramid uh in Memphis, Okay, So I didn't know
Speaker 3: that there was any actual mystic things with it. Come
Speaker 3: to find out, there is a little bit of a
Speaker 3: backstory to it. So the building was originally built to
Speaker 3: be like a venue, like a concert hall and all this.
Speaker 3: They were, like Mike Tyson fought in it at one
Speaker 3: point in time. It was set up to be like
Speaker 3: a spot for people to come and check out. Right,
Speaker 3: long story short, the owner of the rolling Stones, or
Speaker 3: the founder of it, I should say, is the one
Speaker 3: that like got the approval to build it and all
Speaker 3: this stuff. There was a crystal skull found in the
Speaker 3: roof of it. You heard about this?
Speaker 2: Uh no?
Speaker 3: But okay, uh the quick so the quick quick tld
Speaker 3: or no, no, it wasn't like some sort of an ancient
Speaker 3: pyramid thing like that. No, no, no, it was done specifically
Speaker 3: for a purpose and this dude even talked about it
Speaker 3: in interviews and shit. So long story short, he gets
Speaker 3: in a car wreck and he almost dies, but this
Speaker 3: Indian gentleman and dot not feather uh grabbed him and
Speaker 3: like hailed him through his car rolling and shit, And
Speaker 3: he walks out cars in an inflaming inferno and all
Speaker 3: this he walks out unscathed, not a scratch, not even
Speaker 3: a bruise. Right, long story short. He meets this guy
Speaker 3: later on. He has a I forget the name, but
Speaker 3: he actually meets him face to face and is like,
Speaker 3: you your spirit saved me? And what all these things
Speaker 3: until they like they became super tight, right, all these things.
Speaker 3: He builds a pyramid and the guy this I don't
Speaker 3: even know if he was a yogi or if he
Speaker 3: just happened to be an Indian gentleman or what the
Speaker 3: case was, but he basically told him, like, to prevent
Speaker 3: this bad shit from happening in all this aura of whatever,
Speaker 3: you need to take this crystal skull and put it
Speaker 3: surrounded by all this incense and put it at the
Speaker 3: very top of this pyramid. Cut too. Bass pro Shops
Speaker 3: buys the Memphis Pyramid to turn it into the Redneck
Speaker 3: mecha their words, not mine. And they go to the
Speaker 3: tip top to put like offices and shit, and they
Speaker 3: see this metal box welded to the roof. So the
Speaker 3: contractors come in, cut the box down. They pull out
Speaker 3: this smaller wooden box. They open it up, fucking incense
Speaker 3: goes everywhere, and there's a crystal skull inside, and they
Speaker 3: were like, what the hell is this. They had to
Speaker 3: call the former owner, Dude of the Rolling Stones and
Speaker 3: get the backstory on it. So they chunked it, of course,
Speaker 3: because the Rednecks and that would be silly, but yeah,
Speaker 3: that's all a part of Apparently the pyramid and Memphis, Tennessee,
Speaker 3: the seventh largest pyramid on Earth, had a little bit
Speaker 3: of some spirituality things thrown into it for the fuck
Speaker 3: of it. So, I mean, hey, it's all over. Man.
Speaker 2: Wow, I don't even know what to say about that. Nick,
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on the crystal skull being found
Speaker 2: at the top of the Bass Pro Shops pyramid? And
Speaker 2: is it Tennessee?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Memphis, Tennessee. And also they couldn't do concerts there
Speaker 3: anymore because, come to find out, the acoustics suck inside
Speaker 3: of a pyramid. Like who would have thought, right.
Speaker 8: I don't know if you know this, but Texas has
Speaker 8: three pyramids also in Galveston and Moody Gardens, and those
Speaker 8: three pyramids are on the exact same latitude line as
Speaker 8: the Pyramid of Giza.
Speaker 3: I did not.
Speaker 8: And there's a crystal skull connection with those pyramids as well.
Speaker 2: Dude, It's literally written in the stars. Here's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: So me and Luisa, we had talked about moving back
Speaker 2: to uh Louisiana here for a couple of years until
Speaker 2: my daughter graduates from high school. Whenever we whenever she
Speaker 2: graduate graduates, we're going to We're gonna spend our years
Speaker 2: in Galveston. That's just where we're gonna go. And now
Speaker 2: some people might support it. Some people might say that
Speaker 2: that's a poor man's destined, that's a poor man's leg
Speaker 2: have a suit. Well, we love it there. It is
Speaker 2: a beautiful place, and yes, I don't care. Sometimes they
Speaker 2: got oil in the water, thanks BP, you bitches. Times
Speaker 2: sometimes only whenever the water's super hot. You know, like
Speaker 2: you can't be going in July if you go in
Speaker 2: like April May no water, dude, the water's not cool.
Speaker 2: It's not warm enough to heat up all the oil
Speaker 2: that's at the bottom.
Speaker 3: You know, got you got you, So you're kind of
Speaker 3: swimming around with Carson the gens, but only when it's
Speaker 3: hot enough. I feel you.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they got to become activated.
Speaker 3: And uh I support this, but I don't want you
Speaker 3: swimming in the cancer's water. I love you too much.
Speaker 2: I love Galveston.
Speaker 3: That's awesome, dude. I love it out there.
Speaker 8: I just found a link about the h the Galveston Pyramids.
Speaker 8: I send it in the chat. It's actually pretty interesting.
Speaker 8: I think, like if you're looking for something to build
Speaker 8: some time, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 3: Read.
Speaker 8: I'm like looking through it right now. It's pretty crazy,
Speaker 8: like just all the stuff that's in here. It's I
Speaker 8: don't know it's on the topic. It's it's pretty wild.
Speaker 3: You said an episode on this American Pyramids, and I'm
Speaker 3: assuming that built like relatively recently, right.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, And then you could even throw in the uh,
Speaker 8: you know, like some of the mounds and stuff, and
Speaker 8: then like the Grand Canyon Complex and the Sphinx, and
Speaker 8: there's supposed to be like pyramids out there, and you know,
Speaker 8: all the mountains out there that are named after the
Speaker 8: Egyptian temples and stuff. And then there's like a if
Speaker 8: you do an overlay of like the Nile in the
Speaker 8: Mississippi River, and like there's all there's all sorts of
Speaker 8: weird like overlaps of like bodies of water and rivers
Speaker 8: and stuff that you know. I think you could just
Speaker 8: look up ancient Egypt America and just there's like all
Speaker 8: sorts of stuff that would that would line up.
Speaker 2: Watch we find out the fucking Mormons, right.
Speaker 3: The Mountain Jews have been behind it all, y'all. I've
Speaker 3: been giving shit to the Gypsies. It's been the Mountain Jews.
Speaker 3: You're going to hell boy, I'm writing it down, bro,
Speaker 3: you're doing it. American Pyramids and earthworks and shit, it's
Speaker 3: been we haven't done one on the earth mounds in
Speaker 3: America all over this place. We need to do one.
Speaker 2: Ohio mainly is the ones that most people talk about
Speaker 2: as the Ohio Mounds.
Speaker 3: I just watched a documentary on the big ones that
Speaker 3: they just like like really mapped out in all these things. Bro,
Speaker 3: it is fascinating. And these assholes just built a town
Speaker 3: right through it. There's only like two big circles that
Speaker 3: even exist of what was once the main complex. But
Speaker 3: from the archaeological digging that they have found, they are
Speaker 3: finding artifacts from like all different types of tribes, so
Speaker 3: pretty much all of these people for miles and miles around.
Speaker 3: They didn't even speak the same language, all new to
Speaker 3: come to this place for their ceremonies and all things.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, we need to do an episode on this.
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, no doubt. Uh Tony, what's up my brother?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I was just wondering when they found that skull in
Speaker 7: the box and the pyramid, did it jump out, put
Speaker 7: it on the top hat and start singing That's what
Speaker 7: I would program it to do.
Speaker 3: I love it. I don't think so. And you would
Speaker 3: think that maybe the owner of the rolling Stones would
Speaker 3: like have a bit of a sense of humor about it,
Speaker 3: but like he was. I've even seen the interview where
Speaker 3: he was talking about this situation. He was like deafintely serious,
Speaker 3: like this skull had to be there. And it's like,
Speaker 3: all right, I get it. You survive a car rash.
Speaker 3: Can you feel some conviction about it? All right?
Speaker 2: Some people be passionate. Ain't none wrong with that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it. I get it.
Speaker 2: The Lorax aka the spirit animal Samuel, what to do,
Speaker 2: my brother? He said? One second?
Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, sorry, I was trying to get the mute
Speaker 9: to on. What technology is a bitch? Did you know
Speaker 9: what talking about the big mounds? No, there is only
Speaker 9: one in the world, like our North America. I believe
Speaker 9: that's any shape of a person. And there was a
Speaker 9: bunch of them, but there's only one left. And I
Speaker 9: saw that day and I thought that was pretty cool.
Speaker 9: And it's just funny that y'all bought it up. It's
Speaker 9: funny how there's synchronicities like that.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and it's got horns for head as a matter
Speaker 3: of fact. And then some assholes built a road through
Speaker 3: the legs of it. At one point in time. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: another one you're talking about. We need. We're gonna bring
Speaker 3: it up on that episode a matter of fact.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I must, we must.
Speaker 9: Jr.
Speaker 2: Said, Yo, you guys set a date with Dead Underscore
Speaker 2: Hidden yet? And I saw that you sent that message
Speaker 2: and I was like, yeah, I sent him a message.
Speaker 2: Let me go see it is confirmed. We have set
Speaker 2: the date, Jacob, if you want to write this down
Speaker 2: your calendar, it is going to be Monday, May fifth,
Speaker 2: at nine pm Central that we are shooting with Dead
Speaker 2: Underscore Hidden. And I went down a rabbit hole on
Speaker 2: his social media's and I like it. So we're we're
Speaker 2: gonna have a lot of fun with that guy. A
Speaker 2: good conversation, you said, nine pm. Yeah, yes, I'm all right.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put them a calendar later on. Just want
Speaker 2: to make sure my notes are correct.
Speaker 3: All right, let's go.
Speaker 2: All right, So Hayden said, good evening, fam, glad to
Speaker 2: be here.
Speaker 3: What up, Hayden, handing with your hank? Uh?
Speaker 2: Alcoholics? Oh okay, I'm special. It is actually supposed to
Speaker 2: be pronounced alcoholics, but it's alcohol Alex whatever. I'm a
Speaker 2: little slow. A lot of questions in my day, So
Speaker 2: alcoholics said col Trick. Jesus, now turn this wine into beer.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's more than one way to skin a cat,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? There do be.
Speaker 2: The Lorax has what looks like alien or predator. Always
Speaker 2: get them too mixed up. But the predator, sir, the
Speaker 2: one with the dreads looking things, uh, says I think
Speaker 2: we came to the wrong predator convention. Uh, with all
Speaker 2: the priests and popes and shit.
Speaker 3: I'm an iPhone in so long, but damn that used
Speaker 3: to be the.
Speaker 9: Spot, right, Oh dude, Yeah, it's awesome called the Yaucher
Speaker 9: and then the aliens. Everybody that's from the movie is
Speaker 9: the Zeno Morpse. Just a little bit of pop culture.
Speaker 2: Here you go, good good stuff there. Sarah hot sas
Speaker 2: Jones has a picture of what seems to be an
Speaker 2: autistic fellow with an autistic bunny.
Speaker 3: Autistic you mean amish?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, did I mispronounced.
Speaker 3: Oh shit, no, no, that's both. I'm sorry. I pulled
Speaker 3: up what Raven Lee had. Since I look back and
Speaker 3: it's like, nope, yep, that would that's the endbreding.
Speaker 2: Some buck teeth right there, Tony said. Some speculate that
Speaker 2: AA and Narkanon Narkanon are linked to the CIA. It
Speaker 2: lets the CIA find people whose minds can be experimented
Speaker 2: with or controlled.
Speaker 3: I could believe that. Gonna be honest with you, it's
Speaker 3: a it's a decent Uh what's it called fertile recruiting
Speaker 3: to see? Like, ah, so this person's got a vice
Speaker 3: we could use that. Yeah, I guess it depends on
Speaker 3: the person though.
Speaker 2: I mean, even bringing it back farther than that, they
Speaker 2: had the whole Gate program that a lot of people
Speaker 2: talk about.
Speaker 3: So what Raven Lee sent as a matter of fact
Speaker 3: is a geologian article. Three thousand pound triceratops skull named
Speaker 3: Shady excavated in South Dakota. Wow, and you know some
Speaker 3: I'm actually I'm glad that they're finding more dinosaur shit because, Jonathan,
Speaker 3: ever since we had the Cryptic Women's Society on the show,
Speaker 3: I know you're somebody who believes that dinosaurs are faking gay.
Speaker 3: But now seeing that they have like etchings on them
Speaker 3: of like in Cambodian temples and stuff, does that change
Speaker 3: your perspective at all?
Speaker 2: Everybody has an imagination. I can draw some kind of
Speaker 2: cryptid type creature and claim that it existed.
Speaker 3: And then when they find a skeleton that matches that,
Speaker 3: and like all this, you still don't believe in dinosaurs.
Speaker 2: Do you know how many of the dinosaur bones of
Speaker 2: the day that they excavated back in the day were
Speaker 2: proven to be fake? They're not real? Like, so here's
Speaker 2: my thing. If you can fake something that is it
Speaker 2: makes it look so similar to the real thing, I
Speaker 2: just lose all trust in it. And so whenever we
Speaker 2: talk about the Smithsonian, they don't put out any of
Speaker 2: the actual dinosaur bones. They're all in the back, so
Speaker 2: they give us the fake shit to look at. Of course, Okay,
Speaker 2: you want to talk about preservation, sure, but not a
Speaker 2: single real dinosaur bone is in the Smithsonian that you
Speaker 2: can put hands on or I don't even care to
Speaker 2: put hands on it.
Speaker 3: I think you just proved the reason as to why
Speaker 3: it's not out in the public.
Speaker 2: Bro put it in a glass fucking thing at that point, Like,
Speaker 2: you can't even put it behind bulletproof glass. What are
Speaker 2: you hiding it from?
Speaker 3: I would assume, like because maybe shit could get damaged,
Speaker 3: maybe there's assholes that will like do something to up.
Speaker 3: And it's not like you could just create another one.
Speaker 3: You could create another fake one.
Speaker 2: Sure, I also want to throw this out there, Jacob,
Speaker 2: You're not the regular Christian. So the regular Christian absolutely
Speaker 2: would not believe in dinosaurs, if I'm not mistaken, because
Speaker 2: they believe that the Earth has only been here a
Speaker 2: couple thousand years. Dinosaur bones allegedly go back hundreds of
Speaker 2: millions of years in prehistoric times, where you know, some
Speaker 2: people don't even believe that Earth is that old.
Speaker 3: Well, I know that I'm definitely not your average Christian, right,
Speaker 3: I get that. I will say that the vast majority
Speaker 3: of Christians that I personally have met and know, and
Speaker 3: by vast I do mean like unironically, ninety five percent
Speaker 3: of them believe that dinosaurs existed.
Speaker 2: Like for sure, Well, I mean that's cool, we've all
Speaker 2: mark a time or two.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, But also I should say this with
Speaker 3: that caveat ninety five percent of Christians that I personally
Speaker 3: know and have met believe the Earth is round is Well,
Speaker 3: so you know, if we're going to go that route,
Speaker 3: let's make sure that we're putting that small camp of
Speaker 3: people that are claiming this plus this must equal this.
Speaker 3: The dinosaurs or fake thing also goes into that realm
Speaker 3: because even in the Book of Genesis, they talk about
Speaker 3: massive creatures that walk the earth with humans. We might
Speaker 3: call them dinosaurs. Maybe other cultures truck call them dragons,
Speaker 3: but like we're talking about the same thing. But yes,
Speaker 3: to your point, I know I'm not a normal Christian
Speaker 3: on that one.
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I think you are, Jacob, And I think
Speaker 7: this whole creationism debate didn't really get controversial until kind
Speaker 7: of just before our lifetimes. Really, so most Christians for
Speaker 7: the entire history of archaeology, to my understanding, have believed
Speaker 7: in an ancient, pre human world full of these dinosaurs.
Speaker 7: But it kind of been like since it became a
Speaker 7: faith flex around the nineteen seventies to say, well, I
Speaker 7: don't believe in that. I believe and y'all are created.
Speaker 7: And then more recently than that, since about twenty ten,
Speaker 7: there's been this biblical flat Earth movement, which I again
Speaker 7: perceive to be kind of a flex to say, well,
Speaker 7: I believe in the Bible so hard. I believe in
Speaker 7: the Bible harder than you do. I believe the Earth
Speaker 7: is flat. But it's really only like less than one
Speaker 7: percent of Christians that go that far. And I'd say
Speaker 7: maybe only like twenty percent are Young Earth or maybe less,
Speaker 7: maybe ten percent, And among Catholics, Catholics don't care at all.
Speaker 7: Ninety nine percent of Catholics are they believe in dinosaurs.
Speaker 7: That's my experience, right.
Speaker 2: I don't think that it's too crazy that dinosaurs could exist.
Speaker 2: I just think that there's enough people out there that
Speaker 2: do believe in them, and they don't know the facts
Speaker 2: about how archaeology has absolutely fibbed on a lot of
Speaker 2: their shit. And that's the problem is that any time
Speaker 2: you know you're documenting things in history, think about it,
Speaker 2: bro Like, you know, I know that you trust history
Speaker 2: a lot more than I do, but there are some
Speaker 2: facets of history that you don't believe, right, So do
Speaker 2: you believe that your sniffer is that good that you
Speaker 2: can point out all the fake history and not questioning
Speaker 2: everything that you believe is real?
Speaker 3: Again, just me personally, it's not that my sniffer is
Speaker 3: that good. I look at the other compounding evidence, right,
Speaker 3: and there is way more evidence to suggest And yes,
Speaker 3: there have been full on dinosaur hoaxes, the Bronosaurus right,
Speaker 3: little foot, the whole long neck, complete hoax, complete hoax,
Speaker 3: right with you, one hundred percent? And no one really
Speaker 3: knew about that only until a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: So like, I'm with you, there are cases of that,
Speaker 3: but there is far more evidence to the veracity of
Speaker 3: dinosaurs existing than to say that they didn't. However, we
Speaker 3: still don't know what they looked like, what their diet
Speaker 3: consisted of. We can guesstimate based off of, like the
Speaker 3: type of teeth they had, We can guesstimate what they
Speaker 3: looked like based off of like the environment they lived in.
Speaker 3: But like the very real possibility that the t rex
Speaker 3: was giant and feather covered is equally possible as it
Speaker 3: being a giant reptile, Like, we don't know that for
Speaker 3: a fact, but we do have a lot of evidence
Speaker 3: on the skeletal records that had been verified by multiple sources,
Speaker 3: and all I mean sorts are just like of just archaeology,
Speaker 3: Like no, no, they're finding the same type of dinosaur
Speaker 3: all over the Earth, and like it goes back to
Speaker 3: the Pangaea theory as well at a certain point. So like, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Are sure, but you had just mentioned earlier about how
Speaker 2: the Egyptians had them on the pyramids and stuff that,
Speaker 2: and I don't think you can really question that, Like
Speaker 2: they're obviously there, right. But that being said, think about
Speaker 2: it like this. The Why just did a little little
Speaker 2: search and it says the first known dinosaur bone was
Speaker 2: discovered discovered in sixteen seventy six in England, but it
Speaker 2: wasn't recognized as a dinosaur bone until later, which was
Speaker 2: the eighteen forties. But think about it like this, of
Speaker 2: all the people that could have possibly come in contact
Speaker 2: with this mythological creature, and nobody set aside a bone
Speaker 2: like the I don't. I mean, let's just say that
Speaker 2: dinosaurs really did live one hundred one hundred million years ago,
Speaker 2: two hundred million years ago, whenever the fuck it was?
Speaker 2: How like nobody ever discovered a dinosaur bone until fucking
Speaker 2: sixteen seventy six.
Speaker 3: Bro bro the bone. Okay, do you realize how hard
Speaker 3: it is for fossils to form. It's not like we
Speaker 3: just set a bone aside in a cave and it
Speaker 3: won't be fucked with, No, it will decompose like fossils are.
Speaker 3: What happened. Whenever the bone itself decomposes, there's a cavity
Speaker 3: left in the earth at that point that fills in
Speaker 3: later on with sand or something else. Of like a
Speaker 3: small nature that gets solidified into rock and gets petrified.
Speaker 3: It's like petrified wood. It's not like still fibrous wood.
Speaker 3: It's rock that used to be wood. Fossils are rock
Speaker 3: that used to be bone. I guess though, I think
Speaker 3: a lot of really really specific like conditions for that
Speaker 3: to form.
Speaker 2: I think that we have just accepted people lying to
Speaker 2: us for so long that we want to believe that
Speaker 2: the stories that we were taught when we were growing
Speaker 2: up are absolutely true and we're connected to them in
Speaker 2: that way psychologically, because if this doesn't exist, then that
Speaker 2: means the story that I've always known to be true
Speaker 2: is absolutely fake. And some people have an affinity for dinosaurs.
Speaker 2: Maybe you love the t rex, maybe the paterodactyl was
Speaker 2: your boy, you know, back whenever you were seven, eight
Speaker 2: years old whatever. But I think that we developed this
Speaker 2: emotionally psychological bond to you know, stories and history and
Speaker 2: mythology and stuff like that. And I don't know, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm just I anytime if somebody has been proven to
Speaker 2: be a liar, I'm throwing it out. Like, for example,
Speaker 2: you always bring up Maurice Dorriell, right, Yeah, for good reason.
Speaker 2: You know, it could have been a charlatan. Maybe he
Speaker 2: was onto something you don't believe in Carson whatever, same shit,
Speaker 2: Billy Carson, same thing. That's not to say that every
Speaker 2: single word out of Billy Carson's mouth is a lie. Right, Oh,
Speaker 2: but he has lied so many times that you're not
Speaker 2: going to listen to them for any kind of information?
Speaker 2: Am I right or wrong?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: That's correct. Yes.
Speaker 2: So if you find a source that has lied to
Speaker 2: you time and time and time again, you're fooling yourself
Speaker 2: into thinking that they can't spit one good fact.
Speaker 3: But that's putting all of archaeology in the camp with
Speaker 3: one hoaxer, Billy Carson. No, No, Billy Carson is not
Speaker 3: in the same conversation as every single person who's spitting
Speaker 3: that type of rhetoric.
Speaker 2: Was there only ever one lying archaeologist?
Speaker 3: No, But I would say there's probably probably I don't
Speaker 3: know this for a fact, there's probably a lot less
Speaker 3: of them than what you're suggesting.
Speaker 2: I would like to do a little bit of research
Speaker 2: on that. Look forward to that show Fake dinosaurs. They
Speaker 2: are fake, and I you know what, I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: bump them up a level. They're bisexual. Now they like
Speaker 2: some hit because they do have to reproduce if.
Speaker 9: They do this.
Speaker 2: But anyway, Zombie, I know that you're super into the archa.
Speaker 2: The you you know how to say the word even
Speaker 2: better than I can, So you just go ahead and
Speaker 2: sit on me. That's okay.
Speaker 10: It's paleontology as the ones that do dinosaur bones.
Speaker 11: But the I was just gonna like give reference that,
Speaker 11: like dinosaurs were originally lived two hundred and fifty forty
Speaker 11: five million years ago, they became to extinct sixty five
Speaker 11: million years ago, and they lived for approximately one hundred
Speaker 11: and twenty five million years, so in that time they
Speaker 11: had roamed the earth.
Speaker 10: I think there's merit though to your argument that like
Speaker 10: why why did like no one else set aside dinosaur
Speaker 10: and bones.
Speaker 11: But just like with Megalodon teeth and meglodon parts, they
Speaker 11: used it for for weapons, They used it for like
Speaker 11: a lot of the ear rings that I dug up
Speaker 11: in Florida were made from shark fossils and they were
Speaker 11: made as decorative like earring gauges and stuff like that.
Speaker 11: So like I'm sure if there was dinosaur bones or
Speaker 11: some type of bones, they very well could have been
Speaker 11: used for different different purposes and they were turned into
Speaker 11: other things and then over time they got ground down,
Speaker 11: and you know, civilizations keep building on top of each.
Speaker 10: Other and stuff like that. But yeah, so I was
Speaker 10: I could go totally into this more, but I was like,
Speaker 10: just to thrumble that out there.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that you definitely have more brain cells to
Speaker 2: rub together than me and Jacob combined. So you know,
Speaker 2: sometimes we like to listen to you talk over there
Speaker 2: about shit that we're a little too dumb to realize.
Speaker 2: But you know, and I'm just taking this this is
Speaker 2: just from a layman's point of view. I have really
Speaker 2: not done a whole lot of research on this, But
Speaker 2: I'm also of the same sense of I don't believe
Speaker 2: anything that NASA tells us anymore.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 2: Is that taking it a step too far? Is that
Speaker 2: a little bit extreme?
Speaker 3: Maybe?
Speaker 2: But guess what, I'm not going to be duped whenever
Speaker 2: other people will be.
Speaker 3: Because if they dupe you want.
Speaker 2: They'll do it you again. They're in the business of doping,
Speaker 2: that's what they do. They're a bunch of duping doupers.
Speaker 3: But NASA is not in the same conversation as paleontology
Speaker 3: or archaeology for that instance. Yeah, but they're not the
Speaker 3: same conversation.
Speaker 11: The Smithsonian, though husband recognized and has openly admitted to
Speaker 11: lying and destroying fossils. They have a long history of
Speaker 11: hiding stuff and they've gone into multiple issues over human
Speaker 11: remains and stuff like that with other countries. So it's
Speaker 11: very well, like, I mean, at one point, there's too
Speaker 11: much fossils and all this stuff that they're collecting, So
Speaker 11: where are they gonna put it?
Speaker 10: Are they going to destroy it? What do they do
Speaker 10: with it?
Speaker 11: That's a that's a topic that like has a lot
Speaker 11: of history to it and stuff like that. I do
Speaker 11: think that we should question it. I don't think that
Speaker 11: there's fully true when it comes to dinosaur bones and
Speaker 11: everything like that, and like speaking of like you know,
Speaker 11: everything that's coming about, and later in the chat drop
Speaker 11: about the parasite that Russia found that's like worms that
Speaker 11: came about like forty two thousand years ago that start
Speaker 11: like woke up and then you got the dire wolves.
Speaker 11: That is the big talk right now that they just
Speaker 11: you know the resurgence of the dire wolves.
Speaker 10: And I'm like, okay, but like at what point are
Speaker 10: you going to stop bringing things back?
Speaker 11: Because now they're now like now they're flooding social media
Speaker 11: with the whole zombie virus and about them digging Antarctica
Speaker 11: and waking up the zombie virus and all this stuff,
Speaker 11: And I'm like, it's interesting how that's van flowing on
Speaker 11: social media to distract us from things. So they release
Speaker 11: the dire Wolf and then this, and then it's fear mongoling,
Speaker 11: and so it all kind of tied back to the
Speaker 11: whole three thousand pound transfer us top.
Speaker 2: He actually like it is pretty badass that they brought
Speaker 2: back the dire Wolf. And you know who brought it
Speaker 2: back was actually Brandon Fugel. You know that name.
Speaker 3: The name sounds familiar.
Speaker 2: He's the one that most recently bought Skinwalker Ranch. That's
Speaker 2: the guy that brought the Direwolf back.
Speaker 3: And so he brought this back by taking the tooth
Speaker 3: from a fossil and the skull from another fossil and
Speaker 3: doing DNA jeene splicing, and he's bringing back an extinct
Speaker 3: Apex predator. This is like a soft core Jurassic Park.
Speaker 3: And like, Yo, on one side, I think that's pretty
Speaker 3: cool that that's possible.
Speaker 2: I think, look, if you can why if you can
Speaker 2: prove that you can bring back a direwolf. Let's bring
Speaker 2: back a fucking dinosaur if they existed, let's prove it.
Speaker 2: Maybe if you can once again, If you can bring
Speaker 2: back a dinosaur once again, why why not you need
Speaker 2: to run that risk. Bring back a herbivore, you know,
Speaker 2: give him a couple of fucking panda bear bamboo shoots
Speaker 2: and call it a day.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I wouldn't be mad at that. But unfortunately
Speaker 3: scientists are assholes, and as soon as they successfully genetically
Speaker 3: clone a dinosaur of the herbivore variety, their next step
Speaker 3: is clearly the Tyrannosaurus rex. And it's like, wait, don't stop.
Speaker 3: They won't. They won't because scientists doesn't. They don't decide
Speaker 3: one day that that's enough and put Pandora back in
Speaker 3: the box. They're assholes. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying bring back the fucking velociraptor.
Speaker 3: That would just be a nightmare. He brought back a
Speaker 3: dire wolf.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're puppies, you know for now?
Speaker 3: Ah? Have you heard them howl? Dude?
Speaker 2: It's the cutest thing.
Speaker 3: No, I have not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a video of it. Maybe we'll watch
Speaker 2: it later. Luke, your thoughts, my good sir.
Speaker 5: So, they did h some messing around with fossilization and labs,
Speaker 5: and they found out that depending on location and weather patterns,
Speaker 5: given a decent environment, fossilization can occur within a couple
Speaker 5: of centuries. Given a perfect environment, it can actually happen
Speaker 5: within years.
Speaker 3: I get.
Speaker 2: That's that's something that I've seen too, Like people will
Speaker 2: say that things are super prehistoric, but then they'll find
Speaker 2: like some some weird modern day thing that obviously is
Speaker 2: and millions of years old, like I don't know, like
Speaker 2: an old coke can or something that's been fossilized or
Speaker 2: some shit like that, Like coca ain't really been around
Speaker 2: that long in the big scheme of infinity, you know.
Speaker 2: So Hey, yeah, I think that that's something that we
Speaker 2: should absolutely be looking into. And let let's just look
Speaker 2: at it like this, If the dinosaurs did exist and
Speaker 2: the math is absolutely wrong that they're not millions of
Speaker 2: years old, that maybe they possibly existed. I mean, what's
Speaker 2: not a super crazy like ten thousand years.
Speaker 3: Ago, fifty twenty thousand. I mean, hell, we just talked
Speaker 3: about Doggerland, right, and they have found at least remains
Speaker 3: of some type of human civilization that dates back to
Speaker 3: twelve thousand BC, and I am of the belief that
Speaker 3: dinosaurs and humans walk the Earth around the same time.
Speaker 3: That's just me. I understand that a lot of paleontologists
Speaker 3: disagree with that. I understand a lot of Christians disagree
Speaker 3: with that. I get it. I get It's just an opinion,
Speaker 3: a hypothesis, if you will.
Speaker 2: It's always funny whenever you say, we just talked about
Speaker 2: doggar Land. I think that episode was almost a year ago. No,
Speaker 2: that was a while back, bro That was not anytime
Speaker 2: like I think it was when I first moved to Texas,
Speaker 2: we did that episode.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, now I gotta search that because it felt
Speaker 3: like it was only a couple of months ago.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess at least six months.
Speaker 3: Okay, let me look it up.
Speaker 5: I don't agree with carbon dating, but they have found
Speaker 5: a Megalodon tooth that carbon dated back to like ten
Speaker 5: thousand years.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, that's the idea of the atmosphere being
Speaker 2: so different that other animals could thrive, and now the
Speaker 2: atmosphere changes and so those animals become extinct. I don't know, dude,
Speaker 2: I just it's a weird thought to even think of
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like how the atmosphere changes
Speaker 2: that much. It's just like the cycle of the Earth
Speaker 2: is it's like a purposeful thing that the Earth absolutely
Speaker 2: knows what it's doing. And so I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: it was just never in the carts for the fucking
Speaker 2: dinosaurs one a bunch of losers.
Speaker 3: I mean. But then again, that's the other conversation too, Right,
Speaker 3: we don't even know what's in most of our ocean.
Speaker 3: There's very possibly prehistoric. I know for a fact, there's
Speaker 3: prehistoric fish at the lower depths of the ocean. The
Speaker 3: Megaledon could hypothetically still exists somewhere down there and we've
Speaker 3: just never seen it. So where do we draw the
Speaker 3: line on what is and is not classified as a dinosaur.
Speaker 5: Well, that's what that whole idea of, like the movie
Speaker 5: Meg or the meg whichever one it was, where I
Speaker 5: had that layer of salinity that was kind of like
Speaker 5: blocking the megalodon off from getting out.
Speaker 6: That's a real thing.
Speaker 5: That's something that's like actually at the bottom of the
Speaker 5: oceans or some of them, and it gives it a
Speaker 5: false bottom to where it even whenever you hit it
Speaker 5: with a sonar or anything. It looks like it's a bottom,
Speaker 5: but as it turns out, it's not.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Actually, the guy that did that on the Discovery Channel
Speaker 2: or one of those type channels, he took like a
Speaker 2: submarine or something down there, and he was like super
Speaker 2: shocked that there was like water inside of water that
Speaker 2: you could see like a whole river flowing underneath, like
Speaker 2: in the ocean. Like he's in water and sees a
Speaker 2: whole separate stream of a river flowing. It's like quite fascinating.
Speaker 2: And what's funny is is that that guy not funny.
Speaker 2: It's actually sucks. But that guy ended up dying after
Speaker 2: they released that documentary. So I mean, maybe it was
Speaker 2: natural causes. Maybe he committed suicide with a couple of
Speaker 2: bullets to the back of his head.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Let me guess he hung himself from a doorknob.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, probably something like that. Maybe he slit his
Speaker 2: wrist in a bathtub, you know, that seems to be
Speaker 2: how some people go these days.
Speaker 3: Mmmm. By the way, it was October October. Well, yeah,
Speaker 3: we're in what is it April now? Yeah, so not
Speaker 3: a year. It was like six months, so.
Speaker 2: Right then, Yeah, about a six months. I was exaggerating
Speaker 2: at a year.
Speaker 3: It's been a minute. But you know, I time just
Speaker 3: kind of has no meaning to me anymore. Honestly, I
Speaker 3: don't know if it's yesterday or tomorrow, but I know
Speaker 3: for sure it's not fucking.
Speaker 2: Today, you know, not today?
Speaker 3: Baby?
Speaker 2: Uh Samuel, Go ahead, sir. What do you think about dinosaurs?
Speaker 2: They fake and gay or they happen to be straight and.
Speaker 3: Ready to fuck.
Speaker 9: Technically, dinosaurs still exists.
Speaker 3: You have gators.
Speaker 9: But here's a mind fuck on which one you think
Speaker 9: came first? Trees of sharks, because I know the answer.
Speaker 3: Probably trees, trees, sharks.
Speaker 9: Yep, trees came came on Earth four hundred million years ago. Sharks,
Speaker 9: on the other hand, came over four hundred and fifty
Speaker 9: million years ago.
Speaker 2: See, this is my problem with these big ass numbers,
Speaker 2: Like we can't prove something from a thousand, two thousand
Speaker 2: years ago. Hardly the same thing with like space, how
Speaker 2: they say it's like, you know all these billions of
Speaker 2: light years. It's like, how do you know, dude, Like
Speaker 2: nobody's traveling that far, nobody's going that fast. Get high
Speaker 2: a million times over before you even get to fucking
Speaker 2: Neptune or whatever.
Speaker 3: I love when you do this you draw history and
Speaker 3: then bring it to space at the same exact time,
Speaker 3: like been in the same conversations.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I look at both of them.
Speaker 2: I think that this, this whole place is such a
Speaker 2: fucking lie, dude, it's not even.
Speaker 7: I think that's a really good question. And carbon dating
Speaker 7: can get you back to like fifty thousand years ago,
Speaker 7: because the half life from carbon is seven thousand years.
Speaker 7: But I didn't know this until I just looked it up.
Speaker 7: The way they date ancient fossils of trilobites and dinosaurs
Speaker 7: is with uranium. The urineau of two thirty eight has
Speaker 7: a half life of four point four billion years, and
Speaker 7: there's a little bit of it in all these fossils,
Speaker 7: and there's more of it in the more recent fossils.
Speaker 7: So that's how they can at least estimate how old
Speaker 7: they are. As for light years and stuff. Well, I
Speaker 7: can get into this, But the way they calculate that
Speaker 7: the diameter of the earthst path around the Sun had
Speaker 7: to do with observing the transits of Venus in the
Speaker 7: seventeen hundreds and then figuring out how big Venus was
Speaker 7: and how far away Venus and the Earth were from
Speaker 7: the Sun, which is ninety million miles, and then through
Speaker 7: parallax shifts, they managed to figure out from that one
Speaker 7: hundred and eighty million mile diameter of Earth sortbid how
Speaker 7: far away some of the nearest stars were like an
Speaker 7: Alpha Centauri so, and it was such multiple of the
Speaker 7: Solar system's diameter. So they had to come up with
Speaker 7: the new units. So they came up with light years.
Speaker 3: It's crazy that they were doing that type of calculations
Speaker 3: in the seventeen hundreds to me, like that's it's it
Speaker 3: blows my mind that there were people that were that
Speaker 3: level of intelligence back then. And I'm not saying that like,
Speaker 3: of course they have had the greatest minds ever that
Speaker 3: have long since been passed. I get that, But there's
Speaker 3: a difference between philosophy and calculus, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: And that's different levels of shit. Think of the guy
Speaker 3: who invented slash just covered calculus. The fact that that's
Speaker 3: even a thing blows my fucking mind.
Speaker 12: And the fact there is Yeah, and these were largely
Speaker 12: French guys working before the metric system, and they figured
Speaker 12: out the speed of light in the seventeen hundreds.
Speaker 7: They figured out, uh, the the distance of a degree
Speaker 7: latitude and how it changes over the Earth's surface, and
Speaker 7: all kinds of stuff. They were really smart back then,
Speaker 7: and hopefully we've advanced a little bit since then. But
Speaker 7: it's impressive how much they could do with so little
Speaker 7: at that time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, I know, Jonathan News agree with everything
Speaker 3: that's been said. I know, I know.
Speaker 2: How about case number one, the Piltown Man of nineteen
Speaker 2: twelve not a dolog Yeah, fing thing and gay, some
Speaker 2: people might say, the not a dinosaur but a famous
Speaker 2: fossil hoax, often grouped with evolutionary frauds, supposed to be
Speaker 2: the missing link between apes and humans. It was later
Speaker 2: revealed to be a modern human skull combined with orangutang
Speaker 2: jaw stained to look ancient. Yeah you're saying, oh, that's
Speaker 2: just one crazy nut job.
Speaker 3: I mean, but you can put it all out with
Speaker 3: that story, right.
Speaker 2: Let me keep going.
Speaker 3: Did they carbon dated, did they uranium date it? Did
Speaker 3: they do any of this or was it just like
Speaker 3: a Barnum and Bailey circus act that went around showing people.
Speaker 2: The archaeo Raptor scandal of nineteen ninety nine. Sir, you're
Speaker 2: ready for this one? Okay, a fossil from China that
Speaker 2: was said to be the link between birds and dinosaurs.
Speaker 2: National Geographic promoted it as a major find. It turned
Speaker 2: out to be a composite, the tale of a dromosaur
Speaker 2: like a small raptor glued onto the body of a
Speaker 2: primitive bird. The motiv or the motive was profit. Fossil
Speaker 2: trading is a big business in parts of China, and
Speaker 2: combining fossil fuels to make a new species can raise
Speaker 2: their value.
Speaker 3: So when it was tested further, they found it to
Speaker 3: be composite, and they knew it was fake. That's my point.
Speaker 3: It was proven, so that doesn't negate all of palaeontology
Speaker 3: when you find a hoax, or even a handful of hoaxes.
Speaker 2: Fossil forgery in China. China is a hotbed for fossil discovery,
Speaker 2: but also fossil fraud due to black market trades fake
Speaker 2: or altered fossils often sold to collectors or museums. Methods
Speaker 2: include gluing unrelated bones together, carving bones make or faking
Speaker 2: impressions in stone slabs.
Speaker 3: I could believe everything that you just said. It's China,
Speaker 3: but I mean it's not like America is any better.
Speaker 3: We fake things too, I get it, but that doesn't
Speaker 3: negate the real stuff that does get found.
Speaker 2: How about the misidentified or over hyped fines In the
Speaker 2: fossil rush of the eighteen hundreds, particularly during the bone
Speaker 2: Wars between Edward Drinker Cope and off Neil Charles Marsh,
Speaker 2: some fossils were misidentified and correctly assembled rushed into publication
Speaker 2: for prestige. Though not always intentional, these errors contributed to
Speaker 2: public skepticism. So the and the list does go on
Speaker 2: and on, and I'm not going to take all night
Speaker 2: with these, but my point here is is that these people,
Speaker 2: not all of them. I'm sure that there are some
Speaker 2: people that genuinely want to find real dinosaur bones, but
Speaker 2: these motherfuckers right here, they were doing it for profit.
Speaker 2: They were trying to see how much chat of cheese
Speaker 2: they can put in their pockets with this fake ass
Speaker 2: glued on human skull orangutan looking bullshit, right, So whatever,
Speaker 2: there's if there's smoke, they be fire. They'd be fire sometimes.
Speaker 3: But you act as if that negates all of the
Speaker 3: study thereof because there are hoaxers out there. That's like
Speaker 3: negating all of magic. Because they're stage magicians.
Speaker 2: The clearly very different things. One has a ca thing.
Speaker 3: Agreed, Jonathan agreed, Thank you for arriving at my point.
Speaker 2: No, we don't agree. I will not agree with you tonight.
Speaker 2: The standard is.
Speaker 3: Set, all right, fair enough, Nick, What is your weigh
Speaker 3: in on this one, sir?
Speaker 8: No, I was just gonna I was gonna say on
Speaker 8: the on the dire wolf people. Those guys are the
Speaker 8: ones that are supposed to be doing the the wooly
Speaker 8: mammoth too, And what's crazy about the wooly mammoth? Kind
Speaker 8: of like the shark and tree thing. I think this
Speaker 8: one's a little bit more crazy to wrap your head around.
Speaker 8: But the wooly mammoth was still around and alive while
Speaker 8: the pyramids are being built.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah's is pretty wild.
Speaker 3: And I mean to that point, that's not something prehistoric
Speaker 3: necessarily speaking, I know, yeah, but it's.
Speaker 8: Still an extinct animal that there's not even fossils of yet,
Speaker 8: probably because it's too recent, but they're gone. And then
Speaker 8: the alligators, you know, like they existed in their form
Speaker 8: for you know, millions of years, and there's a whole
Speaker 8: fossil record that shows, you know, fossil records are real things,
Speaker 8: and there's fossils of animals that we still have the
Speaker 8: day that haven't changed at all, So I mean you
Speaker 8: have to take that into account for sure.
Speaker 3: But the only the mammoth to be blended with the
Speaker 3: modern elephant, and if we could repopulate the earth with that, okay,
Speaker 3: it's a herbivore, right. I'm not mad at that there
Speaker 3: is a sabertooth mammoth that I don't want us to
Speaker 3: bring back, but like as far as the wooly mammoth
Speaker 3: is concerned, yeah, they're supposed to do it. If we
Speaker 3: can mass produce that bitch, we have a whole new
Speaker 3: food source. I'm here for it.
Speaker 8: They're supposed to reintroduce them to the tundra or tiger
Speaker 8: in Russia. Is the whole plan with that, I think,
Speaker 8: But yeah, that should be pretty cool.
Speaker 2: To be honest, that would be so wrong, Jacob, isn't
Speaker 2: The reason why a lot of people don't believe in
Speaker 2: dinosaurs is because they don't believe in evolution because it
Speaker 2: goes against whatever their story goes with.
Speaker 3: I don't believe that dinosaurs and evolution are necessarily in
Speaker 3: the same conversation. And again, I know I'm very countercultural
Speaker 3: on that one. Evolution in the sense of a species
Speaker 3: adapting over the course of centuries or millennia to their environment, right, yeah, fine,
Speaker 3: sure that type of evolution and adaptation. We could at
Speaker 3: least ignore, uh to say that, like a species came
Speaker 3: from breathing strictly water to becoming amphibious, to becoming land dwelling,
Speaker 3: to becoming quote unquote sentient to becoming what we are today. Yeah. No,
Speaker 3: I think that's the massive stretch.
Speaker 8: Is there any explanation for the actual fossil record of
Speaker 8: like Neanderthal Australia, pithecus, all that kind of stuff to
Speaker 8: anatomically modern humans, like in the fossil record, there's obviously
Speaker 8: the missing link between the two. There's actual fossil record
Speaker 8: of different hominids that have existed throughout the course of history,
Speaker 8: that we have skeletons and whatnot. From Where does that
Speaker 8: stuff fit into your ideology? Just out of curiosity?
Speaker 3: That's a fair question. The whole thing that that's some
Speaker 3: sort of a link between monkeys to us, I think
Speaker 3: is crazy because why do we still have monkeys.
Speaker 8: Totally separate things.
Speaker 3: Exactly now these other beings. It depends on the school
Speaker 3: of thought that you ask. Some believe that this was
Speaker 3: some like descendants of Nephelim type situation, and that's why
Speaker 3: they're all deformed and different looking in all of that,
Speaker 3: something that maybe God had other projects that he was
Speaker 3: working on too. You know, as far as all of
Speaker 3: that goes myself, I don't think that they are necessarily
Speaker 3: human as we are. Is it possible that they are
Speaker 3: pre flood or or pre mud flood by some people's accounts,
Speaker 3: like okay, fine, cool. I don't really have a place
Speaker 3: for them as far as my religious dogma tells me.
Speaker 8: Or it seems like a toughie for being honest, like
Speaker 8: just to end the missing link in the fossil record
Speaker 8: gap and just how modern humans showed up like I
Speaker 8: mean ago like that.
Speaker 3: Kind of yes, kind of no. I mean, think about this,
Speaker 3: if you were to flash freeze the earth right now,
Speaker 3: all of us dead today, boom, ten thousand years from now.
Speaker 3: They're doing excavations and they're trying to find records, and
Speaker 3: they're like, well, how did these people in this continent?
Speaker 3: We wouldn't we would call it Africa. They would have
Speaker 3: some other name for it. We're tall and had this
Speaker 3: kind of hair, and had these kind of skin and
Speaker 3: all these things. Then cut to Japan and they had
Speaker 3: these types of features and all this. They would say
Speaker 3: that somewhere evolutionarily they had this massive shift. And I
Speaker 3: wonder if they would even call us the same type
Speaker 3: of species. Is it possible that that's another type of
Speaker 3: human that we would there's only a few examples of
Speaker 3: them ever existing, and we just kind of think that
Speaker 3: they're like some sort of missing link in reality, Like
Speaker 3: that's like a group that inbread so hard that that's
Speaker 3: what they became because they were so isolated.
Speaker 8: I mean, it would just well they're doing it now
Speaker 8: by actual DNA, though they're separating it by genetics, so
Speaker 8: I mean the physical features and whatnot, you know, are
Speaker 8: it would be the physical features are just like dogs
Speaker 8: are all dogs, and you know, there's different flavors and
Speaker 8: colors and shapes and sizes of dogs, but they're all canine,
Speaker 8: you know, dogs, and but the but whenever you go
Speaker 8: down from human to like caveman or you know, Australia
Speaker 8: pithekis or whatever, that's a whole like different genetic thing,
Speaker 8: not on the same line. I would say, as like
Speaker 8: the dog human thing, you know, what I mean, I
Speaker 8: feel that different.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't even know if they're gonna consider
Speaker 3: the dire wolf ancestor as the same type of canine
Speaker 3: as like a chihuahuah. I don't know that it's very possible.
Speaker 3: I haven't done any research into it. But in whatever
Speaker 3: the dire wolf came from, I guarantee didn't look like
Speaker 3: a pit bull, you know what I mean? So is
Speaker 3: it a completely different species? Thing is the same in
Speaker 3: the same type of genus and class and phile them
Speaker 3: and all that. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I thought all dogs came from wolves?
Speaker 3: Does that mean? But wolves something from these? And they
Speaker 3: came from these and like there's a predecessor to everything.
Speaker 8: That's what they say. And I'm I'm not one that
Speaker 8: subscribes to that ideology to myself, even though they can
Speaker 8: technically all read and they genetically can you know, technically
Speaker 8: like in the tree share a common ancestor. I think
Speaker 8: that there probably was some variation of species that were
Speaker 8: implemented separately at the same time that also shared the
Speaker 8: same characteristics and could breed and not just started from
Speaker 8: a wolf and went down and there was human manipulation
Speaker 8: after the fact that made the designer breeds that we
Speaker 8: have today.
Speaker 2: Also, right, you're gonna make my dog Fatty a little
Speaker 2: upset if you say that it can come from a wolf.
Speaker 3: Well, the Wiener Dog Boxer mix is absolutely of wolf origin.
Speaker 3: Let's not negate.
Speaker 2: That the dog named Fatty that has not a single
Speaker 2: ounce of fat on him.
Speaker 8: So you can tell, you can tell which ones were
Speaker 8: a human touched to say the least, Yeah.
Speaker 2: For sure, for sure, zombie fat zombie, raven zoom user
Speaker 2: you're going by today.
Speaker 10: I'm just set.
Speaker 11: I just wanted to show we were talking about megadon
Speaker 11: and I just wanted to show my megalodon teeth.
Speaker 3: This is one of mine.
Speaker 10: This one's really cool because this one has like a
Speaker 10: lot of a lot more to it. But that's one.
Speaker 10: Then I got another one.
Speaker 2: Too, So Megladon's are badass, I hope. So is it
Speaker 2: like a do.
Speaker 3: You think they're faking gay? Well?
Speaker 2: The thing see, I don't know, I didn't really that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: But okay, I mean, I'm not trying to like trap
Speaker 3: you here, but like Megladons are in the aquatic family
Speaker 3: and they're in a whole different conversation, but they're still
Speaker 3: classified as dinosaurs, So where do they fall? For you?
Speaker 2: I think the water is a little bit different. We
Speaker 2: don't really know much about what goes on in the oceans,
Speaker 2: especially at depths of which the Megladon probably was, you know,
Speaker 2: existing right like and I don't know, I mean, was
Speaker 2: the megladon more of a bottom of the ocean type
Speaker 2: dweller or was it rising to the top like dolphins.
Speaker 3: The fact that we have teeth kind of one thing.
Speaker 3: But there's a ton of teeth in Florida.
Speaker 9: Oh, this is Florida.
Speaker 11: It like down in Florida is where you get like
Speaker 11: tons of teeth. So they've like that's that's actually like
Speaker 11: one of the people that I got this tooth from,
Speaker 11: they gave it to me and like this is from Florida,
Speaker 11: and then when I was there, I got this one.
Speaker 11: So there's like a whole bunch. But that's also means
Speaker 11: like Pangaea. It goes with Pangaea, and it goes with
Speaker 11: like all that and like the different rising of the
Speaker 11: sea levels and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So anything is possible. I mean, I think that it's
Speaker 2: more likely than a megaladon existed than a t rex.
Speaker 2: I'll say that why would you say this though, Well,
Speaker 2: it's more likely that the sea life would be able
Speaker 2: to exist the different changes of the cycle of the earth.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know how thick their skin is,
Speaker 2: or how how well they adapt to different temperatures water,
Speaker 2: how well they can travel to warmer parts of the water.
Speaker 2: If you're living on land and you get struck by
Speaker 2: a meteor, you get struck, you know, there's some kind
Speaker 2: of ice age or something like that. It's probably a
Speaker 2: little bit more difficult to live on land than it
Speaker 2: would be in the sea because down at the sea
Speaker 2: even whenever, so you know, growing up in Pennsylvania, we
Speaker 2: used to always have this like pond thing that we
Speaker 2: would always go and check out whenever I was younger,
Speaker 2: and it would freeze in the winter. It gets cold
Speaker 2: as fuck in Pennsylvania, right, And the whole surface of
Speaker 2: the water was always super super hard. You could stand
Speaker 2: on it, you can ice skate on it and whatever. Right,
Speaker 2: But down at the bottom, if it was deep enough,
Speaker 2: there would still just be water. You can still swim
Speaker 2: or not swim. I mean, it's a pond, but you know,
Speaker 2: the larger like you're not going to have an entire
Speaker 2: ocean freeze over. I wouldn't think, right.
Speaker 3: I mean no, but the ice age did like make
Speaker 3: the sea levels drop drastically because a lot of the
Speaker 3: sea became frozen. So if you had you know, just
Speaker 3: for example here, if you had like a hundred gallon
Speaker 3: pool of water with fish in it and then you
Speaker 3: flash froze and you lost, let's just a twenty percent
Speaker 3: of that. All those fish are now condensed, and the
Speaker 3: ones that didn't die now to fight for oxygenated water
Speaker 3: and food sources. So like, yeah, they're all gonna be affected.
Speaker 2: Sure, but you're gonna still have a Megledon or two
Speaker 2: still swimming around, you know, the strong survived kind of situation.
Speaker 2: I really don't know. I'm just hypothesizing here.
Speaker 3: That's a fair point. I'm just I was curious because
Speaker 3: if you believe in Megledon but not the t rex,
Speaker 3: I just wanted to know the justification and fair enough.
Speaker 2: Because sharks are still around, find me a raptor.
Speaker 3: We have the chicken, do we not?
Speaker 2: That's I don't even know. We're talking about fucking birds now,
Speaker 2: you know, Like that's.
Speaker 3: I mean, pat mammoths and we now have elephants today.
Speaker 3: We had sabertoothed tigers, and now we have regular tigers.
Speaker 3: I mean there's examples.
Speaker 2: Those are believable. But the reptiles that are still existing
Speaker 2: are lizards, alligators, crocodiles. That's about it, right.
Speaker 3: That's why I don't believe all these dinosaurs were all
Speaker 3: inherently reptiles. We just think that because that's what the
Speaker 3: quote unquote experts have told us. I think there's probably
Speaker 3: a lot more that goes on. The t rex could
Speaker 3: have been covered in hair, for all we fucking know.
Speaker 3: It could have been a giant chicken. We don't know.
Speaker 3: We're just talking about strictly off of skeletal records, what
Speaker 3: we think and what the experts have hypothesized. But like,
Speaker 3: we don't know.
Speaker 2: But chickens don't have teeth, I don't think. Huh, they
Speaker 2: just got lips.
Speaker 3: No, But they are uh well, they're not predatory, but
Speaker 3: I mean their ancestors allegedly were. But I mean, hell,
Speaker 3: the wooly mammot, this seemed to be an herbivore. But
Speaker 3: they did have a saber tooth mammoth, so they had
Speaker 3: a predatory sense at least in some regards. So just
Speaker 3: I don't know, Man, shit changes over time. Certain like
Speaker 3: you said, the strongest will survive, and certain species were
Speaker 3: affected by the ice age, and certain ones kind of
Speaker 3: made it through.
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe they all just escaped to inner Earth.
Speaker 2: Bro no E thinks about that.
Speaker 3: Maybe, like that Rick and Morty episode, the dinosaurs just
Speaker 3: got on their spaceships and took all off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they came back and got kicked the
Speaker 2: funk out very possibly, Jamie, what are your thoughts on
Speaker 2: this whole dinosaur situation? Are we thinking that it's a
Speaker 2: little lame? Is it fake news? Is it history that
Speaker 2: nobody believes it?
Speaker 3: Like? What do you what do you think about dinosaurs? Oh?
Speaker 2: Trying to unmute here, that's always the toughest thing.
Speaker 3: Who are you asking, Jamie?
Speaker 2: I was asking Jamie?
Speaker 3: All right, Am I am?
Speaker 4: I logged in there.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, all right.
Speaker 4: So it's, uh, hello everybody. My name is Jamie. Pleasure
Speaker 4: to meet everybody. I finally put faces to the name.
Speaker 4: I'm minute awesome podcast. So all right, so we talked.
Speaker 4: There was a lot and I'm going to try not
Speaker 4: to word vomit. I don't like doing that, so I'm
Speaker 4: gonna try to keep it as compacted as possible. All right,
Speaker 4: if you consider the size of a dinosaur. So I
Speaker 4: believe that real. It doesn't matter what I believe. I'm
Speaker 4: an idiot. I got punched in the face for fifteen years.
Speaker 4: That was kind of my life.
Speaker 3: Heard that, right, So I know what was it?
Speaker 4: You Jacob who train Muytai?
Speaker 3: I fucked around with it a little bit. I do
Speaker 3: more boo hurt. But what's your what's your fighting style?
Speaker 4: I was a boxer, I went to mma, I went
Speaker 4: to kickboxing, I went everywhere.
Speaker 3: Well, I feel you, no.
Speaker 4: No, terrible at all of them. But I showed up.
Speaker 4: So the way I look at it is in like
Speaker 4: fact stated timeline. I don't know the timeline. I don't
Speaker 4: know what's facts. But let's look at data. We have
Speaker 4: these skulls. A pitbull is a scary dog because of
Speaker 4: bites of uh pounds of pressure per square inch. A dinosaur,
Speaker 4: if it's the size of what they claim it to
Speaker 4: be or herbivore could have I mean, it could have
Speaker 4: flat teeth. It could have flat teeth. It just has
Speaker 4: to bite it. Is it more advantageous who have kind
Speaker 4: of as teeth?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Sure, evolution? Could it be real? I don't know. I'm
Speaker 4: too stupid. I'm too stupid. But the question is how
Speaker 4: much evolution have we seen and recorded human history? Not much.
Speaker 4: When we force a donkey to have sex with a hoss,
Speaker 4: you get a mule. Right now, those two are not
Speaker 4: naturally going at each other. We got that problem. When
Speaker 4: it comes to freezing of the water. We know animals
Speaker 4: do hiben eight the resting hot rate goes down low enough.
Speaker 4: So these are all like, there is no winning in
Speaker 4: any of this because we as humans are too stupid
Speaker 4: to know. Now, am I down for bringing back because
Speaker 4: the wolves, the mammos, I want a die wolf right now? Yeah, like, dude.
Speaker 3: I will.
Speaker 4: I don't even smoke cigarettes. I will smoke a cigarette
Speaker 4: with a dire wolf right now. Like there's nothing more
Speaker 4: gangster than that. I just think it's fascinating that we
Speaker 4: have no evidence of what the diets were of such
Speaker 4: large animals, the meglodons and t brexes. I'll beat up
Speaker 4: a ve loscal raptor. It's like three feetall just so
Speaker 4: you know, Yeah, yeah, I'll just kick it go away.
Speaker 4: Ye're you're you're basically a cat, which which are scary,
Speaker 4: but which I.
Speaker 3: Mean, there are some big dog breeds that could absolutely
Speaker 3: tear us apart. So like you two, like a.
Speaker 4: Bomb cat, I'd leave with some emphysema or something.
Speaker 3: Of people every day, you know what I mean, like
Speaker 3: in the realm of things. But it's not as scary
Speaker 3: as like they have made it out to be. Love
Speaker 3: loss are raptor. It's like, you know, it's a dog size,
Speaker 3: It's okay.
Speaker 4: It's like, dude, you have a you have a blade,
Speaker 4: you might be all right. Like but this goes back
Speaker 4: to what I put in the chat a little while ago, like, hey,
Speaker 4: at least men will be menigans.
Speaker 3: We'll have to fight for our survival again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you're gonna have to protect the home caves, bro.
Speaker 4: I mean, I kind of live in a cave. I
Speaker 4: don't know about you guys. I'm in a dungeon. I'm
Speaker 4: always trying to be left alone. I don't want to
Speaker 4: be around people. I don't Here's here's another one.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Uh So, if I recall the podcast correctly, one of
Speaker 4: you thinks the world could be flat, Jonathan.
Speaker 2: It could be. I'm not saying that it is.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying no, no, right, right, right, And one of
Speaker 4: you thinks it could be round.
Speaker 3: Jacob, I'm the confirmed globe tard here, So.
Speaker 4: Really throw your brain for a whirl on both of those.
Speaker 4: If you spin something, doesn't slyn real force drive the
Speaker 4: gravity to the center you all right, Okay, So how
Speaker 4: long we've been spending who's.
Speaker 3: To say, millions of years or some ship?
Speaker 4: Would we be kind of elongated? What are we very oblonged?
Speaker 3: I mean I guess that.
Speaker 4: I mean it might squish some things. Does that make sense?
Speaker 4: And like tying it all back, wouldn't that make sense?
Speaker 4: Why the creatures got smaller, why dinosaurs sopped existing?
Speaker 3: I mean, that's possible. I guess we have gotten taller
Speaker 3: evolutionarily speaking over the last few centuries. But they also
Speaker 3: say that that's because of nutrition and diet. And these
Speaker 3: people weren't eating the best back in the day, but
Speaker 3: I mean, they somehow had denser muscle structures. But then again,
Speaker 3: they were also working harder just to survive than we do.
Speaker 3: I mean, so there's there's a kernel of truth to
Speaker 3: what you're saying here, bro, But.
Speaker 4: There's also we had giants at.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, allegedly, an I don't know anything.
Speaker 3: You believed in giants, not even not the biblical take
Speaker 3: away that for two seconds, like, no, no, I thought
Speaker 3: just giants in general. I thought you believed in them
Speaker 3: at least. Maybe I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not like full lawn. Absolutely there were giants. Maybe
Speaker 2: there were.
Speaker 3: I just I don't know. Okay, Okay.
Speaker 4: So there's there's a lot to unpack with all this
Speaker 4: information that we are now like getting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'll tell you this. I'm all
Speaker 2: for kill bossa Earth. Give me that one.
Speaker 3: Kill bossa Earth.
Speaker 2: Throw some Sauer crowd on it.
Speaker 4: I'm actually cook it with some jelly, some welches.
Speaker 3: Let's go with a bagel theory. Although I know that's
Speaker 3: just gonna make the jew haters go extra chubbed up
Speaker 3: at that one.
Speaker 2: Oh God, oh yeah.
Speaker 7: I gotta kund of fore you Jamie on the cylindrical
Speaker 7: acceleration that you would give from a spinning Earth, because
Speaker 7: I get the math on this not too long ago.
Speaker 7: Maybe I can remember the numbers, but you probably went
Speaker 7: in school, we all went in school that the acceleration
Speaker 7: of square is one meters per second square, but it
Speaker 7: actually changes depending where you are on Earth. So if
Speaker 7: you're close to the polls, it's nine pointy three and
Speaker 7: if it's if they're the equator, it's nine point seven.
Speaker 7: If you want to do the math on naters per second,
Speaker 7: go down the Earth in twenty four hours, and the
Speaker 7: formula for the acceleration going in a circle.
Speaker 3: Is square.
Speaker 7: One hundred squared is squared per second square, and the
Speaker 7: readius of the Earth is something like six or seven
Speaker 7: million meters. And when you divide two hundred let's say,
Speaker 7: what was it, hundred fifty thousand meters square per second
Speaker 7: square divided by seven million meters, you get.
Speaker 3: On the zero point Tony, you were in an area
Speaker 3: with meters.
Speaker 7: Per second square, which is minus at the equator. Sorry,
Speaker 7: I feel.
Speaker 2: Like you were really hitting on something there, but you
Speaker 2: must have been going through a fucking tunnel or you
Speaker 2: got t mobile. One of the two.
Speaker 3: Sounded like you were cooking, but it also sounded like
Speaker 3: you were speaking through an alien translator. So shit.
Speaker 7: Well, anyway, if you do the math, which I could
Speaker 7: do again, but it would take like two minutes, the
Speaker 7: spinning of the Earth accounts for the difference in the
Speaker 7: acceleration of gravity at the polls versus at the equator.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry we missed all the numbers, but it's two
Speaker 7: hundred and fifty thousand meters per second square. Meter square
Speaker 7: per second square divided by six or seven million meters
Speaker 7: equals zero point zero four meters per second square, which
Speaker 7: is the difference in acceleration that the versus the equator.
Speaker 3: Okay, man, man, I'm sorry to cut out.
Speaker 7: I will just I will just muep myself. Man, you
Speaker 7: guys carry on.
Speaker 2: You'd you're the man, Tony. You say numbers, and I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna assume you're right, sir.
Speaker 3: I mean, apparently there have been people, not just Tony,
Speaker 3: but like the experts have done this math multiple times
Speaker 3: over to explain certain things. But some of us have
Speaker 3: really good recall when it comes to things like that.
Speaker 3: I eat, Tony, and some of us really forget things
Speaker 3: very quickly. I E me, I yeah, and you'll be
Speaker 3: like that. Uh luke.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on all of this flat Earth?
Speaker 2: Round Earth? Or is this all a fucking dream?
Speaker 3: Dude?
Speaker 5: One, I need you to show me a picture of
Speaker 5: your dog, because every time you describe it, it just
Speaker 5: trips me out. So if you show me yours, I
Speaker 5: will show you a picture of my three legged dog
Speaker 5: and return.
Speaker 2: I will ow you my wiener. Let me go grab him.
Speaker 3: H He calls it his wiener, even though it's not
Speaker 3: even a full Wiener dog. It looks like a boxer
Speaker 3: with a super elongated body, which is cute. I will
Speaker 3: give me let me hey, it's a three quarter shot.
Speaker 3: I would try to get my dog in here, but
Speaker 3: she would fucking she's too big, like my studio is
Speaker 3: only so big, and she would take up the majority
Speaker 3: of this space.
Speaker 5: Mine's sleeping now, So I have to put the picture
Speaker 5: in the comments. I'll go ahead and do that. But uh,
Speaker 5: I think, and so as far as the whole evolution thing,
Speaker 5: I think, in a world where everything that is living,
Speaker 5: whether it's plant material, whether it's animals, in a world
Speaker 5: where everything is carbon based and is double helix DNA,
Speaker 5: you can't simply say things are related because they share
Speaker 5: a certain percentage of DNA, or they share a certain
Speaker 5: percentage of you know, genetic coating stuff like that. Like
Speaker 5: you're bound to have similarities that have no relation to
Speaker 5: each other in different species for sure.
Speaker 3: By the way, Jonathan's laugh as we speak.
Speaker 2: Here's Fatty, here's this handsome little stud he's got the
Speaker 2: boxer cheeks. Let me get a little squeeze of these
Speaker 2: bad boys. There we go and then.
Speaker 3: Uh huh, super long wiener dog body.
Speaker 6: It looks a little bit like mine. I put the
Speaker 6: picture in the comments.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, oh ship we have like, oh, we have
Speaker 3: so many comments to catch up on, but no, Luke
Speaker 3: continue to cook.
Speaker 6: Sir, and then also the so that that was it.
Speaker 5: As far as the evolution stuff, Jonathan I was saying,
Speaker 5: in a world where you know everything that is alive,
Speaker 5: whether it's plant material, whether it is animals, whatever.
Speaker 6: Everything is carbon based.
Speaker 5: And double helix DNA, You're you're bound to have similarities.
Speaker 5: I don't think you can simply say something is a
Speaker 5: you know, in the same line of evolution is something
Speaker 5: else when you know you can only copy and paste
Speaker 5: so many times.
Speaker 2: Yeah sure, I mean, dude, how many times have you
Speaker 2: met a person you're like, oh my god, that looks
Speaker 2: just like that guy I met, Like, for example, I
Speaker 2: always bring this up to my wife, Dude, whenever we're
Speaker 2: watching wrestling and we were just talking about seem punk earlier.
Speaker 2: That is full on Charlie Sheen, and nobody can tell
Speaker 2: me anything otherwise Like that is, some people just look
Speaker 2: so crazily identical and sometimes it's not even just about
Speaker 2: exactly how they look. Sometimes the manurism mannerisms are like
Speaker 2: so exactly precise about somebody that you'd met before. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think you're right. Things are bound to repeat themselves
Speaker 2: because there's probably limited code. I don't know.
Speaker 5: If found a good design, of course it's going to
Speaker 5: repeat it elsewhere.
Speaker 3: No doubt. I think it's study Once that said, like,
Speaker 3: as of this very second, you have six identical twins
Speaker 3: out there, not genetically, of course, but there is currently
Speaker 3: walking the earth right now six people that look identical
Speaker 3: to you, maybe with a different haircut or without a
Speaker 3: beard or whatever the case would be. But like, yeah, then,
Speaker 3: like as far as height, weight, jawline, skin complex and
Speaker 3: all this stuff, and I kind of tend to believe
Speaker 3: that honestly, Yeah, why not.
Speaker 5: And then as far as the what the guy was
Speaker 5: previously talking about, I think he's talking about the centrifugal
Speaker 5: or centrifugal however you want to pronounce it. And it
Speaker 5: does cause an elongation at the equator, like it kind
Speaker 5: of makes it pancake out.
Speaker 3: Right, which would make sense why people that lived historically
Speaker 3: around the equator were taller and skinnier and people that
Speaker 3: lived in colder climates got shorter and stockier.
Speaker 6: Right, like we had talked about before.
Speaker 5: Actually, so like for example, at the top of Everest,
Speaker 5: because there is more mass beneath you, there is actually
Speaker 5: a stronger gravitational pull on that mountain than if you
Speaker 5: were at sea level. Or even though the pressure, for
Speaker 5: example and the Marianna's Trench is extreme, the gravity is
Speaker 5: actually super low because there is less mass between you
Speaker 5: and the center.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like the old philosopher one said, it's
Speaker 2: centrifugal emotion. It's a filling up.
Speaker 3: Please. Ah, science be science, and that's for sure.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like I said, we're about to have some fucking
Speaker 6: fun with this shit.
Speaker 3: I'm down.
Speaker 2: Let's go, let's go. Uh Nicole, lay your thoughts, sir.
Speaker 8: Speaking of science, I just wanted to bring up one
Speaker 8: other thing when it came to the Pyramids and the
Speaker 8: Earth that I like to think about as far as
Speaker 8: how it could have happened in like basically, you know,
Speaker 8: like all of the ratios and proportions of the pyramid
Speaker 8: and how they they relate to the size of the
Speaker 8: Earth and the diameter and the circumference and all of
Speaker 8: those things that are like factored into the pyramid in relation.
Speaker 8: So it's I don't know, it's like it's like a
Speaker 8: one to like eighty six thousand scale. If you take
Speaker 8: the perimeter of the pyramid and the height and the
Speaker 8: base and all of those things, they're all direct like
Speaker 8: perfect ratios of measurements of the Earth. Right, it's circumference,
Speaker 8: it's a diameter, all these things that it was found
Speaker 8: out later like after the fact, with modern science, that
Speaker 8: those things are factored into the pyramid, not to mention
Speaker 8: that it's on the coordinates of the speed of light.
Speaker 8: So like that's that's one of the main proofs for me.
Speaker 8: I guess as far as like around Earth goes, it's
Speaker 8: like they are they like faking all of those measurements
Speaker 8: of what they've figured out, like with modern science of
Speaker 8: like what the measurements of the Earth is in making
Speaker 8: it line up with the pyramid that was already those
Speaker 8: those perfect proportions and ratios and things like that. It's
Speaker 8: not I wouldn't think it's the other way around, you
Speaker 8: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, that's a solid point. I think the Egyptians
Speaker 2: were definitely on some shit. Whether it was the Egyptians
Speaker 2: or the ancient Egyptians or Thoth or.
Speaker 8: Raw I can see the Earth from space.
Speaker 2: Ancient, Yeah, I think.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they definitely had a lot of insight. And this
Speaker 7: was long before NASA existed. So even if you don't
Speaker 7: believe anything NASA says, the ancient Greeks like Aritosthenes and
Speaker 7: then the French scientists we were talking about from the
Speaker 7: seventeen hundreds, they already figured out most of the most
Speaker 7: important stuff long before NASA existed. So I think that
Speaker 7: stuff's worthy of belief, even if you don't believe in that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So I mean, just working backwards like that I think
Speaker 8: helps me, like ontologically decide like things that are true
Speaker 8: because they confirm other things like going that direct. So
Speaker 8: like just logic and reason would say that if this,
Speaker 8: then that, and if the pyramids are accurate to the
Speaker 8: modern like calculations beforehand, then it's probably reasonable to assume that,
Speaker 8: Like you can kind of go with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a solid argument. Yeah, I mean that's why
Speaker 2: I used to be I'm not gonna lie. I used
Speaker 2: to be full on flat Earth or I was balls
Speaker 2: deep and everything flat Earth all the David Wise, all
Speaker 2: of the amazing flat earthers that we've had on the show.
Speaker 2: I've watched hundreds of hours of that kind of stuff,
Speaker 2: and it is fascinating. Like they do bring up a
Speaker 2: lot of talking points. Maybe not all of the talking
Speaker 2: points are exactly mathematically correct in one way or another.
Speaker 2: These are just regular people doing their own types of
Speaker 2: experiments and stuff like that. But I don't know. I
Speaker 2: think that it's it's entirely possible that the world could
Speaker 2: be round. It's also entirely possible that it could be flat.
Speaker 2: It's also entirely possible that we could be looking at
Speaker 2: a fucking Dungeons and dragons die. You know how many?
Speaker 2: How many sides? Is that like twenty sided or something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I've also heard something saying that the Earth
Speaker 3: is pretty much a forty sided die And I personally
Speaker 3: get down with that myself.
Speaker 2: You get down with that, But you've, uh, you would
Speaker 2: have to you'd have to think that all of NASA's
Speaker 2: pictures of the Earth are fake.
Speaker 3: We have talked about that. I'm willing to acknowledge that
Speaker 3: NASA has live but that doesn't mean that every single
Speaker 3: thing about space is fake. Interesting, that is not the
Speaker 3: all encompassing all knowers of everything space.
Speaker 8: I think their main job is to hide extraterrestrial life
Speaker 8: in UFOs and misdirect and longer money.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, very well, said sir hard g and Gimatrias said,
Speaker 2: what my gents, and by that I mean gentiles?
Speaker 3: What's up, dude? I do enjoy it. I get called
Speaker 3: a gentile, It's funny.
Speaker 2: I prefer to be called a goyam personally.
Speaker 13: Well, I'll call you gys next time.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3: That's gonna piss off some people, but I'm I'm also
Speaker 3: down with it.
Speaker 2: I just feel like Kurt Cobain singing rape man.
Speaker 3: My god, that's where it goes for you. Anyhow, Love
Speaker 3: you there.
Speaker 2: Royce, just fucking with you to be alive, said, what up, fellas?
Speaker 2: How to how are you too? Lovely bastards doing?
Speaker 3: I live in that dream man?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Buddy.
Speaker 2: Raven sent the picture of the worm that has been
Speaker 2: revived after forty six thousand years in the Siberian permafrost.
Speaker 3: Yep, because again that's what the Earth needed, was another
Speaker 3: another brain eating worm, because we don't have enough of
Speaker 3: those going around or anything. Fucking Russians, I swear to God,
Speaker 3: I'm actually a little extra pissed off at the Russians
Speaker 3: right now, like on my own so, but that's from
Speaker 3: government or what. Uh. I don't typically get very personal
Speaker 3: on the show, but I'm cool with doing that at
Speaker 3: this time. Actually so so. A guy I served with
Speaker 3: as a matter of fact, I just found out got
Speaker 3: killed last week in Ukraine. He retired from the Marine
Speaker 3: Corps as a gunny. Fucking multiple combat deployments, multiple purple
Speaker 3: hearts from the Marine Corps. He goes and he serves
Speaker 3: in the Ukrainian Foreign Legion and him and a couple
Speaker 3: of different Americans and they got got right. The fucking
Speaker 3: Russian dogs dismembered the body and mutilated it and then
Speaker 3: blasted the pictures all over the internet. And that's a
Speaker 3: guy that I personally knew, so at this particular moment,
Speaker 3: fock Slavic special needs over there, like in particular. But yeah, so,
Speaker 3: of course, with that being said, the Russians dealing with
Speaker 3: brain eating worms, yeah, of course they would the fucks.
Speaker 2: And we were just talking about that earlier, about like,
Speaker 2: being mauled to death by anything has got to be
Speaker 2: one of the worst ways to go. Dude, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I was he mauled to death or it was mutilated.
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't. They didn't dismember him, but they they
Speaker 3: set him up on a tarp with other Americans bodies
Speaker 3: and they put like a tear card or some sort
Speaker 3: of playing card on him for a certain picture, and
Speaker 3: then they blasted all over the internet. So fuck the
Speaker 3: Russians in particular. That's just me. Damn, that's some savagery
Speaker 3: type shit.
Speaker 2: The Lorax said. The first evidence of a virgin birth
Speaker 2: in crocodiles has been reported in a captive American crocodile,
Speaker 2: the Crocodilus a actuus, who was housed on her own
Speaker 2: for sixteen years in a zoo and Costa Rica. She
Speaker 2: laid a clutch of fourteen eggs, of which seven seemed
Speaker 2: viable and were artificially incubated.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, there are examples of reptiles, some being
Speaker 3: able to reproduce asexually, but I didn't know crocodiles were
Speaker 3: in that number. That's right, that's fascinating.
Speaker 2: Hot Sauce Jones said, I would let Nick snuggle me
Speaker 2: to sleep, wouldn't we?
Speaker 3: All? Yeah, he smells fantastic, I might add, so, yeah,
Speaker 3: he do he do.
Speaker 2: Never you never said it's any odor. Just coming off
Speaker 2: of that angelic Torso.
Speaker 3: I thought you're gonna talk about his hair. No, it's Torso.
Speaker 3: His chest does not stay.
Speaker 2: Got a fucking nice Torso, dude. So uh, Zombie said
Speaker 2: thoughts on the skull, is Dino's real?
Speaker 3: I'm open.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not. I'm not gonna die on this hill.
Speaker 2: Whether I believe dinosaurs are fake. It's just that they
Speaker 2: have been faked so many times, so I tend not
Speaker 2: to believe liars.
Speaker 3: I mean to be fair. That also was asked like
Speaker 3: over an hour ago, so that was more.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm doing my best to try and get caught
Speaker 2: up here.
Speaker 3: And I know I'm just saying like that's That wasn't
Speaker 3: in reference to like rebringing it up. That was that
Speaker 3: was current to the conversation at the moment.
Speaker 2: But oh, Jacob, here we go. Har G said, new bill,
Speaker 2: if approved, would let people in Maine have Viking style
Speaker 2: funeral so you can literally go out in a blaze.
Speaker 3: I want them to do that in Louisiana, bro, But
Speaker 3: I want my own Cajun version of it. I want
Speaker 3: to be pushed out in the middle of my family's
Speaker 3: pond in a wooden piro filled that bitch of gasoline,
Speaker 3: and somebody of my family. We got some archers fucking
Speaker 3: shoot a flaming arrow at me and just let it go,
Speaker 3: Like what what? What? Why can't we do this?
Speaker 2: There's no need to spend any kind of money on
Speaker 2: my dead carcass.
Speaker 3: Nah, that's that is cheap now, you.
Speaker 2: Know, spend about ten bucks and some and fill up
Speaker 2: a gas can. You know, get a fucking flaming arrow,
Speaker 2: sell me in a boat, call it a day.
Speaker 3: I don't need to I don't need the skin suit anymore.
Speaker 3: I'm off to other better things. Man, do what y'all
Speaker 3: fucking want with it. I don't care.
Speaker 6: And brother, you don't want to go out in a jomboat.
Speaker 3: I mean in Louisiana, piro is more. That's that'd be
Speaker 3: more culturally appropriate.
Speaker 2: So beck to do it in a fan boat too?
Speaker 3: Actually, oh god, and a metal fan well okay, hey, hey,
Speaker 3: that being said, a metal boat won't sink, okay, which
Speaker 3: is the big issue. I've looked into this and legally
Speaker 3: to do it. Their big concern is that you wouldn't
Speaker 3: burn fully, and that the boat if it was wooden
Speaker 3: or whatever, like your body wouldn't actually completely torch, and
Speaker 3: then it would go down the river, and then they'd
Speaker 3: fucking find it, and then they'd have to open a
Speaker 3: whole nother crime scene investigation and all this stuff. So like, okay, yo,
Speaker 3: if it was a metal pirou, I'm good that way,
Speaker 3: you would know for sure if I burned all the way,
Speaker 3: and like, yeah, I'm down, Look we can. Let's find
Speaker 3: that middle ground, uncle Sam. You get what you want,
Speaker 3: it's cheap all the things. I get what I want.
Speaker 3: It's literally exactly what I want. And then take the
Speaker 3: ashes from that boat and send them to the firework
Speaker 3: company like I have in my will. I don't ask
Speaker 3: for much.
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, hey, I don't have any anything
Speaker 2: to go against going out like some potted meat dude.
Speaker 5: But if you set up a Goldberg machine, they technically like,
Speaker 5: would that be against the law because there's a lot
Speaker 5: of things that went into each other to make the
Speaker 5: process happen.
Speaker 6: So where where does.
Speaker 3: The law stop as far as disposing of a body
Speaker 3: a Rube Goldberg machine?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, Like how how fucking technical can we get
Speaker 5: with this? What knocked over that my body burned because
Speaker 5: of the bowl and ball three miles down the road.
Speaker 6: Okay, what are you even fucking talking about?
Speaker 3: No, I like where your head's at. As much plausible
Speaker 3: deniability as electronics and mechanics will a lot. I fucking
Speaker 3: love this.
Speaker 2: I guess my angle on it is that I want
Speaker 2: it to be as cheap or as free as humanly possible. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, like, uh, that's why I never really understood
Speaker 2: why it's so damn expensive to have a funeral or
Speaker 2: even to get ashes or anything like that. I mean,
Speaker 2: I know that it's a process, and they got to
Speaker 2: put on the whole ceremony and they got to dig
Speaker 2: this shit. But like, really, dude, like you're gonna be
Speaker 2: charging thousands of dollars for a piece of wood that's
Speaker 2: people are going to look at for an hour or
Speaker 2: two before it gets lowered into the ground and never
Speaker 2: to be seen again. Like that's just silly to me.
Speaker 2: It seems like a waste of money.
Speaker 3: Now, I'll tell you what my plan would be. To
Speaker 3: have family land right eventually in like land that I
Speaker 3: could pass on to my inheritance and like let it
Speaker 3: be ancestral, ancestral Jesus Christ ancestral home land to be
Speaker 3: passed down four, five, six generations. To have a family
Speaker 3: cemetery on that land would be pretty dope. But I mean,
Speaker 3: even with that, I'd probably just want like a mausoleum
Speaker 3: that like to do it in the traditional way, like
Speaker 3: it gets reused like multiple times.
Speaker 2: So like I don't know, Oh, just have your family
Speaker 2: members bury your body in the backyard. That way, it
Speaker 2: can never be taken from them by the state.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then they get legally in trouble for burying
Speaker 3: a body in the backyard. Like I said, it has
Speaker 3: to be designated. You have to get permits. I've looked
Speaker 3: into it, dude, I all unironically, I've looked into this.
Speaker 2: I feel like you definitely would. Luisa said, Oh, this
Speaker 2: is in what we were talking about Galveston and the
Speaker 2: whole oil thing. She goes, we eat carcinogens. I would
Speaker 2: rather swim in it.
Speaker 3: I'd rather neither. But I feel that. I mean, it.
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter what you drink, doesn't matter what you eat.
Speaker 2: It's all got bullshit in there.
Speaker 3: So you mean to tell me that rain energy drink
Speaker 3: is not good for me? That's all funny.
Speaker 2: Even those vitamins are fake and gay.
Speaker 3: You know, it's not fake though. These fucking beef liver
Speaker 3: pills that I'd be fucking with, those are not fake.
Speaker 3: You open that bitch up. It smells like a fucking
Speaker 3: jerky bag.
Speaker 2: The White Boy Wizard said, uh, oh, he's talking about
Speaker 2: my baby. Luisa was holding the baby earlier and he
Speaker 2: was like, Oh, that's cute. We do do good work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the kid's gonna be a fucking problem when he
Speaker 3: gets older.
Speaker 2: Bro, Fuck yeah he is. So let's go down.
Speaker 3: Jr.
Speaker 2: Said there were definitely dragons.
Speaker 3: I believe it.
Speaker 2: Dragons make more sense, and I know I know that
Speaker 2: maybe they come from the same family, maybe they're giant.
Speaker 3: Lizards, whatever.
Speaker 2: But the lore around dragons goes back way farther than dinosaurs.
Speaker 3: Dinosaurs go pre human. The lore of dragons only started
Speaker 3: when humans started writing it down. What are you talking
Speaker 3: about the.
Speaker 2: First time a dragon was mentioned? Does that pre date
Speaker 2: the first time that a that a dinosaur was mentioned.
Speaker 3: I know, I kind of think we're talking about the
Speaker 3: same creature.
Speaker 2: Well, Chinese astrology goes back how long and that's not
Speaker 2: the only one to ever, that's not the Well, even
Speaker 2: if it's only a thousand Wait, did you say a
Speaker 2: thousand or five thousand, five thousand. Okay, so five thousand.
Speaker 2: We didn't discover the first dinosaur well until the fucking
Speaker 2: sixteen hundreds, bro, But the.
Speaker 3: First literature to talk about these giant beasts that we
Speaker 3: would now call dinosaurs or dragons one or the other
Speaker 3: goes back around five to six thousand years ago. Like
Speaker 3: it's around the same timeframe.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that if ancient people found a dinosaur skull,
Speaker 7: they probably would have just assume it had died a
Speaker 7: few years earlier, and they would have called it a dragon.
Speaker 7: I think that's the theory here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Isn't there a lizard that actually spits like acid? Isn't
Speaker 4: it the komodo.
Speaker 3: I know that they have like a type of venom
Speaker 3: that coats their teeth. I don't know if they spit
Speaker 3: it or not. But yes, to answer your question, there
Speaker 3: are like types of lizards and I mean types of
Speaker 3: reptiles that do spit venom. I could see a world
Speaker 3: where somebody would write that down to say, like it's
Speaker 3: spit and it like you know it all burns caused
Speaker 3: burns of some type and yeah, that goes that route.
Speaker 3: But even the whole conversation of dragons. In Europe they're
Speaker 3: giant reptiles. Southeast Asia they're giant, hairy snakes like with
Speaker 3: hair that run on rain and shit. But they're both
Speaker 3: considered dragons. It's you see what I'm saying. It depends
Speaker 3: on the source and the timeframe it was written about
Speaker 3: and all this stuff. I'm still a only of the
Speaker 3: belief that dragons and dinosaurs are the same creature that
Speaker 3: we are talking about, but probably put on a with
Speaker 3: different glasses, if you will, based on the timeframe of
Speaker 3: which they were written about.
Speaker 2: The Greek rock lizard is known to spit acid when
Speaker 2: it feels threatened. This unique defense mechanism helps it to
Speaker 2: deter predators, although it is not a common behavior among lizards.
Speaker 3: So ancient Greek would have a lizard that's able to
Speaker 3: spit acid.
Speaker 2: I could see anything that's right now.
Speaker 3: Well, not what I'm saying, but there's probably a Greek
Speaker 3: predecessor to that circa eight thousand BC or some shit.
Speaker 3: It's not like that just came about in Greece in
Speaker 3: the last century, you know what I mean. So to
Speaker 3: say that there was probably a larger version of it
Speaker 3: way back when that was spitting this venom, and they
Speaker 3: like wrote it down as something similar. Yeah, I could
Speaker 3: totally believe that. And it's not to negate a possibility
Speaker 3: of a dragon or the possibility of a dinosaur. Again,
Speaker 3: I kind of think it's interchangeable.
Speaker 2: Dialogue could be I mean, it could all be true,
Speaker 2: could all be real. When we're talking about dinosaurs or dragons,
Speaker 2: it's you know, I don't think we're ever really going
Speaker 2: to know personally. Yeah, you teach their own Asian barbecue.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, what if.
Speaker 9: You're about the webtile spitting acid? Actually, there was a
Speaker 9: dinosaur called the Tylipasaurus that would spit acid. Also, to
Speaker 9: go about the dragons in Asia or the Chinese, they
Speaker 9: had the first improve was said to have been the
Speaker 9: son of the Yellow Dragon, and his mother was a
Speaker 9: mortal woman. The yellow dragon is like their chief deity.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 9: In some sources, I'm not I have only ready barely
Speaker 9: scratched the surface. But anyway, all the ancient China's fucking wild.
Speaker 9: But they believe that the dragons when they went to Japan,
Speaker 9: they would lose a finger a toe, and when the
Speaker 9: dragons would leave Japan and go back to China, they
Speaker 9: would gain it back and that's going on that's corborated
Speaker 9: on both sides. But they it's funny how the Asian
Speaker 9: dragons were like a long sout and everything is also
Speaker 9: you can take that put it side by side with
Speaker 9: the Ketta Karda from South America and it's like a
Speaker 9: one to one Simba and.
Speaker 2: Doesn't So doesn't Sam look like somebody who knows a
Speaker 2: lot about dinosaurs.
Speaker 3: He looks like a lot about dragons. I do love dragons.
Speaker 9: Actually, I had a video that I've had saved to
Speaker 9: YouTube for a long time.
Speaker 3: Uh. It's a hip from UH.
Speaker 9: I can't remember if it was Discovery or if it
Speaker 9: was History Channel, but I remember watching it as a kid,
Speaker 9: and y'all should watch it. It's a quote unquote monumentary,
Speaker 9: but a lot of the points that they say is
Speaker 9: actually pretty good. But there's they even say that they
Speaker 9: found a body of one of like frozen, and then
Speaker 9: there's even uh I think it's India and Nepal or
Speaker 9: it's been a mile. Don't quote me on it, but
Speaker 9: I believe that they even said that they had a
Speaker 9: body up in caves of some source, like they found
Speaker 9: eggs or something.
Speaker 3: So you would ask about dragon eggs not too terribly
Speaker 3: long ago.
Speaker 2: Jonathan, Yeah, I.
Speaker 9: Think that dragons are believe that at one point they existed,
Speaker 9: but I believe that humans hunted them down because look
Speaker 9: how how that we've hunted almost everything else down. I mean,
Speaker 9: we either bred out the other homo sap the homo
Speaker 9: like neanderthals or homoactus. We either bred them into us
Speaker 9: or we killed them out. So it's not too terribly
Speaker 9: hard to think that a band of men killed a
Speaker 9: big ass dragon.
Speaker 3: Were true.
Speaker 2: Luke your thoughts.
Speaker 5: So we have Have you'all ever seen the frill frilled lizard?
Speaker 5: A field lizard, no thrilled thrill fri I l l
Speaker 5: E ed.
Speaker 2: I can look it up.
Speaker 6: Yeah, look it up real quick. We have this thing
Speaker 6: running around.
Speaker 5: We have spitting cobras, which these little assholes will actually
Speaker 5: like specifically aim for your eyes to spit.
Speaker 6: Their venom at you. We also have Jesus lizards.
Speaker 5: So who's to say at one point in time there
Speaker 5: wasn't one that had all three of these things?
Speaker 6: That sounds like a fucking dragon to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look at that little bitch. Indeed, I've seen pictures
Speaker 3: of these, I've never seen one.
Speaker 5: Like that's literally the dinosaur that he just mentioned. It's
Speaker 5: pretty much a miniature version of it. And in the movie, uh,
Speaker 5: Jurassic Park, whenever they had that thing in there, it
Speaker 5: actually spit out venom. So again, who's to say that
Speaker 5: at some point in time we didn't have one that
Speaker 5: did all three of these fucking things.
Speaker 2: Sure you'd mentioned Jesus lizard? Is it this fella right here?
Speaker 2: Look at the Jesus Christ lizard?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: They had to throw the whole long jac in there, dude.
Speaker 3: I'm to say, I mean it was it like discuss
Speaker 3: by a priest or some shit. Yeah, they can run
Speaker 3: on water, they can run on water. Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: That looks out dude. Look at this. It kind of
Speaker 2: looks like a little fucking dragon in a sense, doesn't it.
Speaker 3: And you know what I'm saying, So look back ten
Speaker 3: thousand years or whatever this thing came from. I don't know,
Speaker 3: it may have been bigger one hundred thousand years ago.
Speaker 3: It definitely would have been bigger. Who's just a person
Speaker 3: that first saw that was like, this is obviously a dragon.
Speaker 5: To get more disturbing, we literally have lizards that will
Speaker 5: shoot blood out of their fucking eyes.
Speaker 3: No, I've seen those. I don't know the name of it,
Speaker 3: but I've seen like.
Speaker 5: That's a that's a real thing. I don't I don't
Speaker 5: know how they figured that out. It's a little weird.
Speaker 5: We have fucking horror frogs that will break their knuckles
Speaker 5: to make claws. Like, there's no fucking telling back in
Speaker 5: the day, what could have been running around. Honestly, if
Speaker 5: anything was like that back in the day, I don't
Speaker 5: blame people for killing them off.
Speaker 3: Like, right, do you have snakes that can fly? I
Speaker 3: mean gly, they're called flaring adders. And the fact that
Speaker 3: they have a snake that can flatten its body like
Speaker 3: flat as fuck and just kind of glide across the
Speaker 3: air from tree to tree. You know, flying snakes, I
Speaker 3: would lose my fucking mind. That's my one thing. I
Speaker 3: don't fuck with. The snakes with no rope, not my thing.
Speaker 6: Build parachutes to float in the wind.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I remember being in the.
Speaker 5: Baseball field one time and like I saw thousands of
Speaker 5: these fuckers just coming in and I'm like, I didn't
Speaker 5: know we were being invaded.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ya, you're talking about spiders.
Speaker 5: Yeah, these spiders will actually like shoot a shoot a
Speaker 5: web and shape it into basically a parachute to get
Speaker 5: taken off by the wind.
Speaker 3: I think they even call it shooting or ballooning when
Speaker 3: spiders do that. But like, yeah, that's a thing, Like yo,
Speaker 3: fuck all of that shit.
Speaker 2: Yeahht on that Jr. Said, same things, just different names.
Speaker 2: A Catholic priest created the Big Bang theory.
Speaker 3: Correct, one hundred percent correct. I know that's a very
Speaker 3: anti Christian thing. Oh big Bang. It's like it was
Speaker 3: created by a priest. But you know whatever, Just like
Speaker 3: all the death metal imagery and all that that was
Speaker 3: created by Catholics, Memento Mori, the the Beauty within death,
Speaker 3: that's a whole Catholic things, all the metal imagery of
Speaker 3: skulls and blackness and all the Oh it's so creepy,
Speaker 3: it's so satanic. It's it's not, it's just super Catholic. Well.
Speaker 2: Uh, the largest telescope in the world is a Vatican
Speaker 2: creation called Lucifer.
Speaker 3: It's in Hawaii. It's very true.
Speaker 2: It's kind of strange.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 2: Jamie said bones would for sure be used as a tool.
Speaker 2: Good point. Maybe we're the fucking dinosaur bone tools nothing.
Speaker 3: I mean, the most of those wouldn't have survived their
Speaker 3: bone and if once they were used and they were discarded,
Speaker 3: they would have returned back to the earth like soil,
Speaker 3: like it would have decomposed. You see what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: would have been petrified and turned into rock.
Speaker 2: Alcoholics said to be And this is going to sound
Speaker 2: retarded as fuck, but transgenders obviously exist. But in a
Speaker 2: thousand years, when people find my bones, they'll just be like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's some little boys bones.
Speaker 3: I mean true. Yeah, that's that's an argument We've said
Speaker 3: multiple times, Like if a dude identifies as a woman
Speaker 3: and then ghost commits a crime and they do a
Speaker 3: DNA swab of the place, they're not gonna say this
Speaker 3: was a woman that did it. They'll say it was
Speaker 3: a dude. That's that's just how the science sciences, you know,
Speaker 3: they are.
Speaker 2: Said they're going to start selling mammoth burgers to make
Speaker 2: lab grown meat.
Speaker 3: Okay, am I I'm not about lab grown meat. I'm
Speaker 3: not a fan of it, but like I would try
Speaker 3: a mammoth burger, I'd be down.
Speaker 2: There's not a lot of things that I wouldn't try.
Speaker 2: Whenever it comes to certain types of meat, like you know,
Speaker 2: people get weird with fish and fish eggs, I'm good on.
Speaker 3: That, but fuck that. Oh what caviaar and row on
Speaker 3: your sushi? Come on now, you look like you would
Speaker 3: eat that. Fuck Yeah. I hate seafood, but like sushi
Speaker 3: is my one guilty pleasure on it. Like yeah, when
Speaker 3: I'm in the movie from Fishy Tastes, sushi's where I go.
Speaker 2: I just want to cook.
Speaker 3: Oh no, oh no, I like that sashimi.
Speaker 2: Dude, give me that imitation crab meat all day, baby,
Speaker 2: Oh god no, Jamie said, uh over under on lab
Speaker 2: grown human meat.
Speaker 3: Lab grown human meat. Yeah, I'm not a fan at all.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't eat that hot sauce, Jones said, I mean barbecue
Speaker 2: sauce makes everything better.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that it wouldn't be like possibly tasty.
Speaker 3: I'm saying that nah, just like no.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh Jr.
Speaker 3: Said.
Speaker 2: They say that life started in the ocean, so.
Speaker 3: That is a thought for sure.
Speaker 2: Interesting. Let's see moving down, there's so many memes.
Speaker 3: It's unreal, mam all kinds of theories about where life started,
Speaker 3: like and what type of life, right, bacteria life, we're
Speaker 3: talking about, mammal life. We're talking about like, you know,
Speaker 3: all kinds of shit.
Speaker 2: Do do do? Jamie said, all dogs come from heaven.
Speaker 2: There you go, even the dire wolf.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm still it's like reintroducing wolves back to areas
Speaker 3: that have been wolf free for like a good long while.
Speaker 3: And then the liberal parties like, we need to reintroduce
Speaker 3: wolves to Colorado, and it's like, do you have any
Speaker 3: fucking idea how hard it was to get them out
Speaker 3: of there? Yeah? Please, let's bring them back in. It's
Speaker 3: it's shit like that, you know.
Speaker 2: The lorax aka Asian barbecue aka spirit animal Sam said,
Speaker 2: don't trust the panda king or the Asian Oupa Lumpa,
Speaker 2: for they are heretics and thus a uh, thus a scourge.
Speaker 2: So saith the platypus. Oh there's another name, the platypus.
Speaker 3: Okay, So if we have it from our spirit animal himself,
Speaker 3: pandas are in fact fake. Do not trust them.
Speaker 9: The I was talking about, don't trust uh the lady
Speaker 9: of uh Korea, North Korea and uh China.
Speaker 3: Ah, yes, Jizuping aka panda boy leader of West Taiwan,
Speaker 3: I'm with you. And then you got the Asian lump Yeah,
Speaker 3: Kim Jong, which god damn he's on some other ship
Speaker 3: right now. Anyway. I mean that's that's nothing new. He's
Speaker 3: kind of been on once since he took the uh
Speaker 3: supreme leader role. But yeah, he's mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: He doesn't poop or pe.
Speaker 3: Nope, he doesn't sleep either. Apparently it's crazy.
Speaker 2: The honey Badger said. A wise man once said, Hater's
Speaker 2: gonna hate, Tater's gonna bow tape.
Speaker 3: These are big facts. These are big facts.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 3: That is something if and when we ever like start
Speaker 3: getting merch up and running, I need to make that
Speaker 3: cult of conspiracy shirt. That's got to be a thing.
Speaker 2: Honey Badger said, dinosaur are dragons, and then alcoholics said, uh,
Speaker 2: dinosaurs are chicken nuggets.
Speaker 3: See, I mean, I guess you both could be true.
Speaker 2: You can't dispute that I have eaten a dinosaur chicken
Speaker 2: nugget before.
Speaker 3: You know, I guess both could be happening at the
Speaker 3: same time.
Speaker 2: You know, very well could be. Let's see here do
Speaker 2: do Timothy said, going back to my theory, God destroyed,
Speaker 2: God destroyed in the flood, everything man made animals forced
Speaker 2: to make a different genetic change and mutation, God would
Speaker 2: have destroyed them.
Speaker 3: I think there was multiple things of why the flood
Speaker 3: was necessary. So I agree with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: And there were certain ones that survived it aka the megalodon.
Speaker 3: It could survive the flood for obvious reasons. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm with that.
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this then, Jacob, because you know,
Speaker 2: with the whole COVID vaccine and a lot of people
Speaker 2: did end up getting it before their third eye became
Speaker 2: wide open. So no judgment by by any means. You know,
Speaker 2: we all wake up on our own time to the truth.
Speaker 2: It is out there, and it is it is easy
Speaker 2: to get caught in the hypnosis of the media, So
Speaker 2: no judgment. That being said. In those vaccines they are
Speaker 2: said to have messenger RNA, so essentially could be changing
Speaker 2: up your RNA, could be changing up your possible DNA.
Speaker 2: So if we're talking about fucking with the DNA or
Speaker 2: poisoning the blood, what's to stop God from sending another flood?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 3: Uh? Literally? Well, okay, I'm gonna go ahead and put
Speaker 3: my my Christian besides the double rainbow, Well that's the point.
Speaker 3: He literally said he would never flood the earth again.
Speaker 3: So what's keeping it from doing it? His promise?
Speaker 2: Well, that's a flood that that doesn't close the door
Speaker 2: on any other type of poscac.
Speaker 3: You set a flood. You set a flood. You didn't
Speaker 3: say an apocalypse?
Speaker 2: Okay, any other type of wiping out of tainted blood?
Speaker 3: Oh? Nothing, absolutely nothing, and it could happen literally at
Speaker 3: any minute now, So yeah with.
Speaker 2: You damn all right, do a zombie? He said, Tony
Speaker 2: makes us all look like uneducated swine. When I grow up,
Speaker 2: I want to be like Tony. Shit.
Speaker 3: Tony is just on another level with the brain power,
Speaker 3: that is for sure. It's insane.
Speaker 2: Mega mind over there, dude.
Speaker 3: Har g, what to do, sir yo?
Speaker 13: I just wanted to tell you a fun fact about rainbows.
Speaker 13: According to some Jewish opinions is that since the rainbow
Speaker 13: is actually a promise that God would not destroy the
Speaker 13: world through a flood again, if there are If a
Speaker 13: rainbow is seen, some people say that that is a
Speaker 13: sign that God is not so happy with people as
Speaker 13: a whole, and that he would have destroyed the world
Speaker 13: had there not been for the promise. And even in
Speaker 13: the Gamar and the time with there were stories that
Speaker 13: through certain times of stage is that the rainbow was
Speaker 13: actually not seen.
Speaker 3: So basically, the rainbow is God letting us know, like Ooh,
Speaker 3: I wish I could. Oh, I wish I can't because
Speaker 3: I said I wouldn't, but if I could, I would.
Speaker 3: Like that's what the rainbow is supposed to signify.
Speaker 13: Basically, to where like even there is generally a blessing
Speaker 13: for a lot of things, and I don't remember off
Speaker 13: the top, but like it's not necessarily a good thing
Speaker 13: to see a rainbow. We don't like go out of
Speaker 13: our way to see it or take pictures of it.
Speaker 2: I never knew that a lot of things away from
Speaker 2: the Irish. You go over there and you kill all
Speaker 2: their snakes and then you say their rainbows are fucking
Speaker 2: stupid and there ain't no pot of gold at the
Speaker 2: end and leprechauns or figments of your imagination, Like damn,
Speaker 2: what what is it about the Judeo Christian world that
Speaker 2: just hates Ireland so much?
Speaker 3: Shit? Say what you want. Most Irish are Catholic as fuck,
Speaker 3: so I think that they get down with Christianity, or
Speaker 3: at least a version of it they do. You have
Speaker 3: a hard uh Protestant the Catholic you know situation that's
Speaker 3: been going on for like two centuries.
Speaker 2: But are Catholic? But were they initially forced into that.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, fair enough, fair enough. Yeah, there were
Speaker 3: some that converted of their own free will, and there
Speaker 3: were others that did not. That was a very very
Speaker 3: true statement.
Speaker 2: Some that saw the fates of others who didn't want
Speaker 2: to convert and said, you know what, I can worship God.
Speaker 2: That's fine, no big deal. I can do that. Fuck that.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get hung or put up on a
Speaker 2: cross and have nails driven through my wrists or whatever. Like,
Speaker 2: I'll convert right now if that was the if somebody
Speaker 2: was threatening me with that and I had no other
Speaker 2: way out, Oh, Holy Jesus, you are my savior.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But they also kind of did well, I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna say for religious reasons, but the Vikings did the
Speaker 3: same shit to England and Ireland when they came through.
Speaker 3: It was very much sword Point was a submission by
Speaker 3: sword Point. You know, it's not like a new Only
Speaker 3: Christians have ever done that type of thing. That's how
Speaker 3: history has been written, you know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean it's not only the Christians or
Speaker 2: the Jews obviously, like that's happened through a lot of
Speaker 2: different religions.
Speaker 3: There's nothing I mean, now the druids were literally stomped
Speaker 3: out by Rome like that. That that's what started all
Speaker 3: of it. And yeah, the last remnants of it might
Speaker 3: have been stormed out by the Catholic Church, but the
Speaker 3: druids that were operating in what we now call Spain,
Speaker 3: France and Germany. No, No, that was Imperial Rome under
Speaker 3: the Caesar that did all of that, long before they
Speaker 3: became a Christian nation.
Speaker 2: So eh, Timothy said, could it be a possibility that
Speaker 2: dinos could have been altered genetics from an ancient civilization
Speaker 2: pre flood? The Bible mentions the behemoth a dino, and
Speaker 2: then Leviathan dragon or sea serpent, job Leviticus, Psalms, et cetera.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent agree, man, And look, I've said that
Speaker 3: maybe we're saying the same thing in different ways here
Speaker 3: dragons and dinosaurs. It's very possible. They are completely different
Speaker 3: creatures and they're spoken of in different ways. But it's
Speaker 3: just I don't know. I put it definitely within the
Speaker 3: realm of possibility and more than likely probability, but that's
Speaker 3: just my own vantage point here. I could be super wrong.
Speaker 2: The White Boy Wizard said, I mean, I'm convinced of
Speaker 2: giants so I would think that there were equally massive
Speaker 2: critters and monsters too. I'm still not sold on the
Speaker 2: dinosaur stuff though, either. I'm all over the fucking place,
Speaker 2: you know, you kind of gotta be I feel that,
Speaker 2: like I And to be honest, it's kind of like Jacob,
Speaker 2: you know, whenever certain people point out to you, like
Speaker 2: you get a lot of the Christian flat earthers, and
Speaker 2: they'll point out how many times flat Earth was possibly
Speaker 2: mentioned throughout the Bible and your quote, you always say, well,
Speaker 2: it's not a salvation issue. And to be honest, I
Speaker 2: kind of feel the same way about this, not saying
Speaker 2: it's a salvation issue necessarily.
Speaker 3: But you know, if they were real, they were real.
Speaker 3: If they weren't, they weren't.
Speaker 2: That's that's kind of how I feel like they're not
Speaker 2: around anymore. They're probably not going to be coming back
Speaker 2: and ay that, but they're.
Speaker 3: Fucking trying, dude.
Speaker 2: Believe I will full on say that there were absolutely
Speaker 2: dinosaurs if they have the ability to bring them back
Speaker 2: without you know, like just using their DNA, if you
Speaker 2: could strictly only use their DNA, But if you're adding
Speaker 2: other shits and you're adding different chemicals, and then I
Speaker 2: started to question it.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's literally what just happened with the dire wolf.
Speaker 3: It's not an actual dire wolf. It's like a gene
Speaker 3: splice of two different breeds and then they mix that
Speaker 3: with like a timberwolf to get what we are now
Speaker 3: calling a dire wolf. But it's not an actual genetic,
Speaker 3: perfect specimen of it.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you can't even call it a dire wolf.
Speaker 3: Then, Oh, but they are God, they are.
Speaker 2: Timothy said, I believe that sciences lie about everything, so
Speaker 2: I don't believe all the bullshit dino and shit, but
Speaker 2: the fact large animals did exist, but government wants to
Speaker 2: control the narrative.
Speaker 3: No doubt, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2: U the Lorix said, I think the earth is grand scheme,
Speaker 2: a snow globe type deal.
Speaker 3: Very well could yeah, in some way, shape or form.
Speaker 3: I agree with that the atmosphere would be like the
Speaker 3: the ball itself, although I know certain people of them
Speaker 3: of the Christian faith believe that the atmosphere is actually
Speaker 3: a glass dome and like it's an actual snow Hey, okay.
Speaker 2: Fair Renee said cats are definitely dragon reincarnates. Oh okay, uh,
Speaker 2: she said, I can't wait for foxes to domesticate themselves.
Speaker 2: Seem like they're working hard at it. Then she showed
Speaker 2: a picture of her kiddie.
Speaker 3: I have seen some domesticated foxes and they seem like
Speaker 3: really cool animals to have as pets. But because they're
Speaker 3: so clever and because they get into everything, it also
Speaker 3: would be a pain in the ass to keep them
Speaker 3: as pets because they'll just try to escape at every
Speaker 3: conceivable turn and just get into everything. But they also
Speaker 3: they act kind of like dogs, but with the mannerisms
Speaker 3: of cats. It's right, there's a YouTube channel. I forget
Speaker 3: what it's called, but like they've got like thirty of
Speaker 3: them that they're domesticating, and they've got them like not trained,
Speaker 3: but as pets. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Oh they're so cute too, Luke, what up, dude.
Speaker 5: Still to this day, it bothers me that house cats
Speaker 5: are the only sea lion that have the slanted eyes,
Speaker 5: like outside of the reptile family.
Speaker 6: As I have my two chests sitting next to me
Speaker 6: right now, and.
Speaker 3: They got the slanted eyes too. Bro, you said, what wet.
Speaker 2: Eyes you mean? Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, we just did it on that Panda episode.
Speaker 3: Apparently Panda bears also have the slit eyes like cats do.
Speaker 3: That's why in the Chinese language they're referred to as
Speaker 3: cat bears. I don't know what to make of that,
Speaker 3: but I agree it's very strange.
Speaker 2: The lorax said exactly, Timothy that in all over Asia
Speaker 2: they talk about when dragons go from China to Japan
Speaker 2: they lose a toe. But the Japanese dragons he had
Speaker 2: already mentioned that, all right, Japan's.
Speaker 3: Got their own kind of myths and lord as far
Speaker 3: as dragons go, Like when the Koi fish goes all
Speaker 3: the way up river, it becomes a dragon, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. But I guess that's more of if
Speaker 3: it's like born there or created in Japan, rather than
Speaker 3: you know, came from China. And also to your point
Speaker 3: saying about the yellow dragon, that's like their most highest
Speaker 3: deity figure that was on their nation's flag until the
Speaker 3: communist takeover. So like to further your point, the yellow dragon,
Speaker 3: the long serpent style yellow dragon, that's a very very
Speaker 3: Chinese thing. Leo. Sorry again to eat right.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 9: The yellow dragon was also said to be the father
Speaker 9: of the first uh In food that found the uh.
Speaker 2: Uh Ding dynasty.
Speaker 3: It's a yeah, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 9: I'm Asian, but I don't I came pronounced Asian ones
Speaker 9: that they don't make no sense.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think I find that.
Speaker 9: I find that and Kulla and all of them, they
Speaker 9: have a rich and colorful history. He's just like in
Speaker 9: the last two hundred years, they just kind of went
Speaker 9: downhill and went downhill quick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Communism has a way of doing that.
Speaker 9: Communism has killed well, I don't want to miss quote,
Speaker 9: but I believe communism and abortional about the two of
Speaker 9: fastest advising a killer of population in the last two
Speaker 9: hundred years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would believe that. I want to say the
Speaker 3: statistic and I forget the exact numbers here, but it's
Speaker 3: like I had this conversation with somebody when they said that, like,
Speaker 3: nothing has killed more than the Christian faith, right since
Speaker 3: the beginning to now, it's killed like seven hundred million
Speaker 3: people or something something out absurd. And when you look
Speaker 3: at it, communism or anything from the Marxist manifesto, right
Speaker 3: has killed one hundred it's up to right now like
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty to one hundred and fifty million.
Speaker 3: And Christianity's been around for like two thousand years. And
Speaker 3: they've killed that many. Communism has been around for like
Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty years and has killed that many,
Speaker 3: give or take on that. It's not exactly two fifty,
Speaker 3: but mathematically that means that you are eleven times more
Speaker 3: likely to be killed by communism existing than you are
Speaker 3: by the entire Christian faith while on the war path.
Speaker 3: So yeah, communism is just pure evil in my opinion,
Speaker 3: but whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was looking at the number as far as
Speaker 2: communist regimes says. Communist regimes are estimated to have killed
Speaker 2: approximately one hundred and sixty eight million people from nineteen
Speaker 2: hundred to nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, one hundred and sixty million in less than
Speaker 3: one hundred years. I was trying to be very generous
Speaker 3: with those numbers when I did it, So it's actually
Speaker 3: even higher than eleven times more deadly than Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's crazy how that works. But yeah, we need that
Speaker 3: in America, eh, communism and socialism.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me go ahead, good sir, h.
Speaker 4: I do the old man thing. I'm sorry, I'm terrible
Speaker 4: at this, but you know, there's like you're talking about
Speaker 4: the slid eye thing, Jacob. I don't know how involved
Speaker 4: with it you were. I appreciate you guys calling on me.
Speaker 4: Have you ever noticed before a person gets into a
Speaker 4: physical altercation, their eyes change. Yeah, there's two versions. There's
Speaker 4: a person that has hollow There's more than two, but
Speaker 4: there's two that I recognize when I step in the
Speaker 4: cage with somebody or a ring. A hollow eye and
Speaker 4: a slid eye. Believe it or not. When you are
Speaker 4: the hunter, you have a hollow eye. When you are
Speaker 4: the savage. I e Ale Speha, that man, his eye
Speaker 4: is doc there's nothing going on in those eyes. But
Speaker 4: then you look at someone like Desent Poier, his eyes
Speaker 4: actually kind of tighten up a little bit. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: think there's a correlation. Like I love cats. I have cats.
Speaker 4: I love them. I have dogs. I have too many dogs.
Speaker 4: I have all the dogs. I sound like Donald Trump
Speaker 4: right now. I have way too many dogs. They have wonderful,
Speaker 4: beautiful dogs.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, but there's a certain thing when you are the
Speaker 4: predator or the prey or you're surviving. Yeah, and I
Speaker 4: think there's a direct correlation with this, this or this.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Like I said, I'm stupid.
Speaker 3: No, No, I think hands up here.
Speaker 4: Hands up. This is my defense to everything. Because I
Speaker 4: do this a lot, I ask a lot of questions. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and I think we all should. So when it comes
Speaker 4: to the slit, I thing with cats that I don't
Speaker 4: think they're ever correlated to reptiles. No. I think cats
Speaker 4: are murderers.
Speaker 14: They are.
Speaker 3: They are predators. That's why you see the uh these
Speaker 3: crazy hippie dippy psychopaths that like try making their cats vegan.
Speaker 4: And they die hashtag vegan cat.
Speaker 3: They they require meat proteins. They are one hundred percent predatory.
Speaker 3: Dogs can kind of get by with more of an
Speaker 3: omnivore diet if you do it right. But no cats
Speaker 3: require meat. It's crazy.
Speaker 4: So it's it's very interesting. So I have a pit
Speaker 4: bull and a boxer, right, My pit bull, she's a thug.
Speaker 4: My boxer, my beta bitch. Yeah, I love them. I
Speaker 4: love I love them both. Don't get me wrong. She
Speaker 4: has ford facing eyes. That's a hunter.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The shape of your eyes determine what type of person
Speaker 4: you are. I'm convinced because she will attack alligators. Obviously,
Speaker 4: I'm not normally from a place where this alligators.
Speaker 3: I can tell because you don't pronounce your rs, but you.
Speaker 4: Don't have those. That's not a real letter.
Speaker 3: Yo, how far out of Boston are you from?
Speaker 4: I'm in South Carolina, but.
Speaker 3: Like, where are you from from? Though?
Speaker 4: Oh I'm from uh like so i grew up in Haverol, Lawrence.
Speaker 4: I'm north Shore of Boston.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, so we don't cook our roast beef just
Speaker 4: so everyone who knows. Oh god, yeah, dude, it's so.
Speaker 3: Good this raw rose beef dog.
Speaker 4: It's heat, just a little heat.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: I'm a fan of roast beef in a couple of
Speaker 2: different ways. But but that being said, yeah, I want
Speaker 2: my roast beef cooked.
Speaker 3: There's no question.
Speaker 4: No, dude, I'm telling you, if you ever go to Boston,
Speaker 4: you get it to North Shoa, go to a local
Speaker 4: mom and pop shop, get a roastby sandwich three way.
Speaker 4: Your life will never be the same.
Speaker 3: I've never been to the North Shore. I've gone to Boston.
Speaker 3: I've passed through Quincy. It's about it. As far as that.
Speaker 4: Goes, absolutely terrible.
Speaker 3: I agree. I agree with everything you're saying, even Boston
Speaker 3: I'm not like the biggest fan of But I also
Speaker 3: because I was there for work and I was already
Speaker 3: in a bad mood. Maybe that's why I didn't like
Speaker 3: take in all that the.
Speaker 4: City Quincy sucks. Quincy sucks.
Speaker 2: Are you a Pats fan?
Speaker 4: Of course? Twenty years of winning. How can I not be?
Speaker 3: I think, by the law, you have to be if
Speaker 3: you're from Boston, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the last three years I have not
Speaker 4: turn on NFL.
Speaker 2: Probably good reason.
Speaker 3: I diueah.
Speaker 2: I took a hiatus from it for one year. That
Speaker 2: was whenever they had didn't have any fans in the stands.
Speaker 2: I was like, this is stupid and I'm not even
Speaker 2: watching this shit.
Speaker 4: No, no, I mean Celtics fans Bruin like big fans.
Speaker 4: But also it's to boil it down right, the sports.
Speaker 4: I've my peak era. I've had that. I had the wins.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm upper thirties now, I'm old. My time
Speaker 4: of my life was fucking winning. Sorry for cursing.
Speaker 3: You've heard how many times? Please God?
Speaker 4: No, I just you know, I'm trying to be an adult.
Speaker 2: Well, there's still a hope. I mean, Drake may looks good.
Speaker 4: No, no, we're not gonna be good for another ten.
Speaker 2: He's not Tom fucking Brady though.
Speaker 4: Oh dude. He went to another team and won a championship.
Speaker 4: He was like, man, I don't actually need you guys.
Speaker 4: I'm me.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that was really just despite Milichick personally, I think.
Speaker 4: It would really banging twenty three year olds.
Speaker 3: I mean, what else are you gonna do if you're
Speaker 3: rich and successful and single. In Belichick's.
Speaker 2: He's old, He's like in the seventies with Lshoe.
Speaker 3: As soon as he got to that level of success,
Speaker 3: all he did was coke and college chicks, because what
Speaker 3: the fuck else are you gonna do if you get
Speaker 3: to that level and you're single.
Speaker 4: Obviously, No, her sports scenes are good. We lucked out.
Speaker 4: I lucked out. Uh but no, So I'm down in
Speaker 4: South Carolina now my piple attacks gators. Fuck yeah, Like
Speaker 4: I'm like, dog, I'm afraid of these things. She's like,
Speaker 4: grow up, Dad, grow up.
Speaker 3: They're easy, dude. How big do they get around you? Though?
Speaker 4: A foot?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean don't like, don't go wrestle it, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? But like you can outrun it
Speaker 3: really easily. So, I mean, you know, and the little
Speaker 3: ones are fun to fuck with.
Speaker 4: I don't want to. I'm dude, I'm a hippie.
Speaker 3: I don't mean funk would like hurt them.
Speaker 4: No, No, Like there is some dude throwing some sticks
Speaker 4: at them and I got a confrontation with him. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 4: leave the dog. I mean, leave the gator alone. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's gonna attack a the dog. Like, what are we doing?
Speaker 4: You don't need to hurt things because you're afraid of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's always that fear of the unknown.
Speaker 4: I just don't do, don't do, don't do anything, Like,
Speaker 4: what are you doing? It's not hitting you.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, if you're near the edge
Speaker 3: of the water getting your dog's with you, your dog
Speaker 3: has a real possibility of getting taken by that eight
Speaker 3: foot gator. That's real shit.
Speaker 4: I'm going I'm going after that gator. My dog's in danger.
Speaker 4: I'm not joining this again.
Speaker 3: Happy Gilmore absolutely did. But that's why we have a
Speaker 3: gator season because it's it's more of a to control
Speaker 3: the problem. It's not just for the trinkets and the
Speaker 3: skin and all of that stuff, all of that too,
Speaker 3: it's really because if we don't hunt them, they'll take over.
Speaker 3: And it's like, it's a real issue. What you're in la, right, Louis, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 3: the real la, not that.
Speaker 4: Not the broken one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, on fire when we got water not fire.
Speaker 4: So you you get with the gator thing. Like I'm
Speaker 4: just like, hey man, specially you stay away from me.
Speaker 4: I stay away from you.
Speaker 3: Oh. I'm trying to make a cape out of one
Speaker 3: for when I wear my armor and do shit. Like
Speaker 3: my dream is to have a Louisiana black bear mixture
Speaker 3: of that with a gator skin cape to where when
Speaker 3: I go do cage fights and shit. But I want
Speaker 3: to be able to kill those animals myself, not buy them.
Speaker 3: And the problem is to get fucking black bear tags
Speaker 3: is on the lottery system right now, and to get
Speaker 3: game bags you have to have the land or to
Speaker 3: buy you within your family realm. So it's like I
Speaker 3: gotta like get with some homies to make it happen.
Speaker 3: But one day, not two day. One day I'm gonna
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 4: Oh dude, that would be gangster as hell.
Speaker 3: I would, I think. So anyway, I know I step up,
Speaker 3: there's gonna be some peed of people pissed off at me,
Speaker 3: but like you know, they're not like people anyway, So
Speaker 3: it's okay.
Speaker 2: Real some gator boots, I think that'd be sweet gate
Speaker 2: up boots.
Speaker 4: No, but I'm fully convinced, like you you treat the
Speaker 4: gators good, they're gonna leave you alone.
Speaker 3: For the most part. Yeah, if you don't funk with them,
Speaker 3: they don't fuck with you. You do get never now
Speaker 3: and then the like has a fucking issue and they're
Speaker 3: coming after you for the hell of it. But I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, just don't go near the water. Don't like
Speaker 3: go swimming if you know there's a gator nearby, because like.
Speaker 4: You're I live in Charleston.
Speaker 3: Oh god, you said that in the most Bostonian way
Speaker 3: I've ever heard of my life.
Speaker 4: Dude, Like, I just walk outside, there's a gainer just
Speaker 4: walking across the pocket lot, and I'm like, damn it.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I might have to put boots on heads
Speaker 4: right now, I'm trying to wear crocs.
Speaker 3: Don't don't do that. Don't don't put boots on heads.
Speaker 3: There's your head. Your foot is not going to do anything.
Speaker 3: Their heads are like no, it's not no.
Speaker 4: I know, I'm well aware. I did my research.
Speaker 3: But South Carolina is a constitutional carry state, is it not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm from Boston. Then I'm just raised to be
Speaker 4: afraid of guns.
Speaker 3: What what?
Speaker 10: Yes?
Speaker 3: No? Who stop that? Go get a gun, be a man,
Speaker 3: be an American.
Speaker 4: I'm being American. I mean I'm waving the flag where
Speaker 4: everywhere I go.
Speaker 3: Good things. Yeah, Like, I.
Speaker 4: Support a military. I love this country. Seventeen seventy six
Speaker 4: is on my knuckles.
Speaker 3: But wait, are you actually afraid of guns? You being funny?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 6: Both?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 3: Bro? No, no, no, you gotta get you at least something,
Speaker 3: and don't have to be some fucking high powered military
Speaker 3: or something. No, just like something to carry and then
Speaker 3: go to arrange and get good at it, get proficient
Speaker 3: with it, and be a responsible gun owner. But like, yeah, dude,
Speaker 3: it's your god given right.
Speaker 4: No, I agree with that. I believe that. I'm all
Speaker 4: in favor of that. But I know I'm a freaking nut.
Speaker 4: I go into cages and punch people in the face.
Speaker 4: I should not have one of these weapons.
Speaker 3: I go in a cage and hit people with swords.
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel you Wait what, that's what I do.
Speaker 3: I wear eighty pounds of armor and beat the fuck
Speaker 3: out of people with axes and swords and shit, and
Speaker 3: they beat the fuck out of me. That's my style fighting.
Speaker 4: Wait wait, wait, wait you do the medieval Yeah I do.
Speaker 3: It's called boohert.
Speaker 4: Oh dude, I'm gonna I'm gonna research this.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, they have some really great fighters in South Carolina.
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, Jonathan and I went to
Speaker 3: a tournament at Clemson University. That was the first time
Speaker 3: I went to Carolina carnage. So, yeah, this is this
Speaker 3: is the axe that I use. Dude, Like, I use
Speaker 3: this fucking axe in like five on fives and ten
Speaker 3: on tens and shit like that.
Speaker 4: It's like, really, there's a group of people.
Speaker 3: Oh, there's teams. Yeah, oh, there's international tournaments for this. Man.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm so ignorant. I need to learn.
Speaker 3: It's a good sport. But I will say it's expensive
Speaker 3: to get started. Like the armor is not cheap, like yeah,
Speaker 3: actually a matter of fact, hold on, this helmet cost me
Speaker 3: a grand like and it's it. Don't get me wrong,
Speaker 3: it's not like that's a flex. I bought it for
Speaker 3: the intention of destroying it. But you need it because
Speaker 3: somebody's teeing off on you with a fucking four pound
Speaker 3: axe head. But yeah, dude, it's yeah.
Speaker 4: Then, my baby, Jonathan, I didn't mean to hijack anything.
Speaker 3: This's my helmet.
Speaker 2: They're good I'm just letting Jacob go. I know he
Speaker 2: loves talking about Booherd I do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, here's the fucking day.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, that's from an axe. Yeah, my armor
Speaker 3: and shit, like, yeah, let's all beat the fuck up.
Speaker 3: But that's the point. You're wearing this armor so that
Speaker 3: it gets damaged, not you. But we still get a
Speaker 3: lot of broken bones, like a lot. Matter of fact,
Speaker 3: in this I have h extra plate packs right here
Speaker 3: and on the backside to protect my neck and shit,
Speaker 3: so I don't have to wear something called a gorge,
Speaker 3: which is basically like a metal collar to protect the
Speaker 3: collarbones on the spine. But yeah, dude, that's we get
Speaker 3: a lot of broken collar bones, a lot of dislocated
Speaker 3: joints and shit, a lot of you get beat the fuck.
Speaker 3: I mean the rules are there's not many. There's not many, so.
Speaker 4: No, no, wait wait wait, so may I ask more?
Speaker 3: Please? I mean, yeah, I don't know how much of
Speaker 3: this you want to spend on about me. It's only
Speaker 3: we got eleven fifteen. We got time. But yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't want to intrude on all this stuff. I'm
Speaker 4: just I'm curious. What are the rules? Drop them like
Speaker 4: there's like what about rain punches.
Speaker 3: Like there's like five or six rules, and it honestly
Speaker 3: depends on the league you're fighting four and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: So like cage matches one on one, they're called pro fights,
Speaker 3: and the rules are very, very different than like a
Speaker 3: five on five or a ten on ten like team melee, right,
Speaker 3: which are fun. That's basically a street fight. That's a
Speaker 3: street fight with swords and axes, and like, uh, this
Speaker 3: is the shield that I use as a matter of fact,
Speaker 3: and it's a punch shield. Like as you wear this,
Speaker 3: you're you're full on like going in for a punch
Speaker 3: with this shit. It's awesome.
Speaker 4: It's like the Trojan Horse movie with fucking beautiful brad hit.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. Now, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: advise like a shield wall because in a five on
Speaker 3: five it's not the best tactic, but like in a
Speaker 3: twenty on twenty, like shield walls can be effective on
Speaker 3: like the smaller scale. But there's tactics, shield all, there's
Speaker 3: there's stuff. But uh so yeah, the rules all right,
Speaker 3: So no hitting to the back of the knee, no
Speaker 3: hitting of the feet, even though we're wearing like the sabotage,
Speaker 3: which are like the metal shoes. That's that's a rule.
Speaker 3: Don't hit the feet, No hits like at a twelve
Speaker 3: to six, like not directly down yet at least have
Speaker 3: to angle it on the head in some way, shape
Speaker 3: or form directly down. That's a lot of weight to
Speaker 3: just put on a spine like that. And you don't
Speaker 3: want to hit areas that are unarmored. It's called gapping.
Speaker 3: But it does happen. Accidents happen. So like the pauldrons
Speaker 3: that I wear don't cover all of my like shoulder
Speaker 3: part right here, my armpits are unarmored, and like, it's
Speaker 3: very possible that will take a hit there one day,
Speaker 3: and it does suck when it happens, but it's not ideal,
Speaker 3: and there's there's only a few more rules and no
Speaker 3: groin right obviously. I mean, yeah, we do wear cups,
Speaker 3: but like show, getting hit with a sword into the
Speaker 3: dick is not fun with or without a cup. Other
Speaker 3: than that absolute brutality. Fucking drop him. That's that's the
Speaker 3: name of the game.
Speaker 4: So you rip someone's come one off and just I mean.
Speaker 3: Good luck good it does happen, uh, but usually that's
Speaker 3: because of armor failure. The helmets are strapped on, like
Speaker 3: everyone strapped on and tied on. So like if you
Speaker 3: do successfully rip someone's helmet off, like everything stops because
Speaker 3: like we're fighting, but we're not actually trying to kill somebody,
Speaker 3: Like yo, getting hit in the head with this would
Speaker 3: actually kill you, Like it's absolutely but like yo, So
Speaker 3: if you see that somebody has some sort of armor failure,
Speaker 3: you be a homie, you know, stop the fighting whatever else.
Speaker 3: And usually the reps will be observing it for that purpose.
Speaker 3: But like if you're talking about like horse collaring somebody
Speaker 3: and like bringing them down to the ground, fuck yeah.
Speaker 3: And there is a ground fighting component to the one
Speaker 3: V ones usually it's like ten seconds on the ground.
Speaker 3: You gotta keep in mind we're wearing eighty to eighty
Speaker 3: five pounds of steel armor, so it's not like you're
Speaker 3: you don't have a lot of mobility, and it's a
Speaker 3: different style of fighting. Like there's been guys who did
Speaker 3: pro fighting like MMA fights that jump in this and
Speaker 3: they eat shit because you're breathing through that, so your
Speaker 3: cardio it's not just being able to breathe, you're breathing
Speaker 3: in your own co two for a good portion of it,
Speaker 3: So you have to have a different level of cardio.
Speaker 3: Oh you're strong with muscles and that's cool, that's cool
Speaker 3: doing that and being agile with eighty pounds of steel
Speaker 3: across your entire body is a different level. There's it's
Speaker 3: a whole different thing. But yeah, it's it's amazing. It's
Speaker 3: like a drug on honestly for me. But it's been
Speaker 3: so long since I took a fighter, went to a tournament.
Speaker 3: I feel so lazy. I feel so shitty about that.
Speaker 3: But my life has gotten so busy I haven't been
Speaker 3: able to make it to any of these things. But
Speaker 3: Nashville actually has a league that they're like actually being
Speaker 3: able to pay the fighters. They got enough sponsorships going.
Speaker 3: If you want to look up, go to AMMA on YouTube.
Speaker 3: That's Armored MMA out of Nashville. And yeah, the last
Speaker 3: time they did a big fight, they had fighters from
Speaker 3: like four different countries come in. And usually when we
Speaker 3: do tournaments we have fighters from like England and Australia
Speaker 3: and all that. That helmet was actually made in Ukraine.
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of the armorsmiths also are from
Speaker 3: other countries. I mean, it's a very niche sport. But yeah,
Speaker 3: and it's expensive, like you'll you'll easily put down three
Speaker 3: to five grand to get you a suit of armor,
Speaker 3: like without even thinking.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm trying to put it a A M M.
Speaker 3: A A MMA Nashville or just look up armored MMA
Speaker 3: and that'll it'll come.
Speaker 4: Back aastrial im combat.
Speaker 3: That's the one.
Speaker 4: I'm in.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dude, it's a good time anyway. But to
Speaker 3: your point about the whole looking at the eyes thing,
Speaker 3: I'm usually looking through that, so I don't I haven't
Speaker 3: seen the eyes of the opponent in quite some time.
Speaker 3: But when I did train for like in regular styles
Speaker 3: of like m and man stuff, I could see what
Speaker 3: you're talking about. But also I never went pro with
Speaker 3: that or even semi pro, so it was always like
Speaker 3: just in the gym training, so I didn't see like
Speaker 3: the full switch get switched, you know.
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 4: I was a corner man. I managed a couple guys.
Speaker 4: My brother's actually a pro heavyweight boxer. He's six and
Speaker 4: seven and zero. Now, fuck, yeah, it nasty, that's what's all.
Speaker 4: But his eyes literally like yeah, and it's like weird.
Speaker 4: But then I had another guy. His eyes went hollow,
Speaker 4: because he wanted to die in the cage. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: he was My brother's a good dude. The kid that
Speaker 4: was managing he was a killer. So the the eyeball
Speaker 4: thing I always like, I've always resonated with and paid
Speaker 4: attention to, are you here? Are you with me? What
Speaker 4: is our intent?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And like, hey, are we gonna do a technical fight
Speaker 4: or we just gonna die on this cross right now?
Speaker 3: I mean both are Bible tactics.
Speaker 2: Absolutely strange is that there have been people out there
Speaker 2: that talk about how there could be like actual reptilian
Speaker 2: shape shifters walking among us. And so we've talked about
Speaker 2: it before, but about how the eyelids instead of blinking
Speaker 2: like this, they blink like this.
Speaker 4: I have never seen that.
Speaker 2: That is fucking freaky. Supposedly there's this uh tele or
Speaker 2: barber or or something like that. And he was talking
Speaker 2: about the time that uh, Barack Obama's what is the
Speaker 2: security team called around the press service? The Secret Service? Yeah,
Speaker 2: the Secret Service went in to go get a haircut
Speaker 2: or something like that, and uh, he saw him blink
Speaker 2: and he like, the guy noticed, the Secret Service guy
Speaker 2: noticed that. The barber noticed, and he was like, don't
Speaker 2: say a thing like just fucking super eerie.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean some obviously there's gonna be some stories that
Speaker 2: are absolutely fipped, But I I think that, uh dude,
Speaker 2: reptilians have to exist, right.
Speaker 3: I think that Men in Black, Yes, it was a movie, right,
Speaker 3: I get that. I think that's probably a lot truer
Speaker 3: than people are comfortable admitting.
Speaker 2: Right, Like I would, I would almost think that the
Speaker 2: reptilian and the you know the old adage like the
Speaker 2: the reptilians run the run the world, the illuminati run
Speaker 2: the world.
Speaker 4: You know, do you think it's that or do you
Speaker 4: think it's predators?
Speaker 3: Yes to both?
Speaker 2: Something not human for sure. I think that it's entirely
Speaker 2: possible that our human race is being uh god.
Speaker 3: Most reptiles are predators, are they not? Just saying not all?
Speaker 3: Not all reptiles are predators, I don't think anyway. But
Speaker 3: I do believe that most are of a predatory nature.
Speaker 3: So yes to both. I suppose ah Man Luke left.
Speaker 2: He had his hand up for their a hot minute,
Speaker 2: but he showed a picture of his little three legged dog.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 2: Dude, that dog does look just like Fatty. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: Look at that, oh, Luke, also said, by the way,
Speaker 2: anybody wondering my dog's name is biscuit, like limp biscuit
Speaker 2: spelled that way. If you're also wondering, yes, it's exactly why. Nice,
Speaker 2: Holy shit, what else do we got here? Alcoholics said,
Speaker 2: when I die, put my body in a trash bag.
Speaker 3: Oh shut up, Alex, Lord of Mercy.
Speaker 2: Alcoholics said, obviously an NF reference, but it stands.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 2: Who gives a fuck, dude, You're dead, You're not in
Speaker 2: there anymore. It's like, do you care what happens to
Speaker 2: your car whenever you trade it in? No, I don't
Speaker 2: even think about it anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now you're owing something there. I do think about
Speaker 3: my motorcycle, though I do wonder how she's doing well.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like the old adage of the best
Speaker 2: day in a man's life is when he buys a boat,
Speaker 2: and the second best day in a man's life is
Speaker 2: whenever he sells that boat.
Speaker 3: I never heard that I have. I have buddy of
Speaker 3: mine that are like boat guys like that is their thing,
Speaker 3: and like, I get it. It's so much. It's such
Speaker 3: an expensive toy and unless you like live on the
Speaker 3: water and use it relatively frequently. I'm no fuck all
Speaker 3: that now. My motorcycle I used to ride all the
Speaker 3: time and I still think about it to this day. Man,
Speaker 3: I miss her. I need another one. But life be life,
Speaker 3: and and shit, we.
Speaker 2: Gotta ride some time. We're gonna go get our motorcycles
Speaker 2: at the same time. And I want you. I don't
Speaker 2: know how good of a teacher you could be, but
Speaker 2: maybe you can teach me how to ride one.
Speaker 3: I would love to. I would say, have you ever
Speaker 3: ridden a four wheeler? Oh?
Speaker 2: I love four wheelers?
Speaker 3: Okay? Have you ever ridden one that you had to
Speaker 3: like shift the gears yourself? Or have they all been automatic?
Speaker 2: Both?
Speaker 3: Okay, that's it. Yeah, you have to hold the clutch
Speaker 3: and click up with your foot and all that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, up and down, Yeah, with the foot.
Speaker 3: That's the hardest part of riding a motorcycle. Everything else,
Speaker 3: as far as your weight and like taking corners and
Speaker 3: stuff like that comes with experience.
Speaker 2: That's it very well. I mean, I imagine my first time
Speaker 2: getting on a motorcycle, I'm not gonna be worried about
Speaker 2: shifting it into fucking fourth gear or anything like That'll
Speaker 2: probably cruise in first and second, right, I mean yeah,
Speaker 2: for the most part.
Speaker 3: I mean, well, I guess it depends on the bike.
Speaker 3: If you're trying to take it like on the open
Speaker 3: highway second gear, you'll be squalling trying to get that
Speaker 3: bitch to forty, you know what I mean. So it
Speaker 3: depends on the size of the bike and all the stuff.
Speaker 2: Also, I also don't want like a craw trocket or
Speaker 2: anything like give me a Hourly or an Indian or
Speaker 2: something like that.
Speaker 3: Bro. Harley's sales since they went woke, Harley sales as
Speaker 3: of right now are down thirty seven percent. Right, mikes cheaper, No, No,
Speaker 3: nobody wants to fucking buy them. They're keeping the price
Speaker 3: up here because it's Harley. They haven't they haven't like
Speaker 3: understood how this works because they're owned by a bunch
Speaker 3: of German unapologetic wocusts these days, and they like don't
Speaker 3: understand the like, hey, if you piss off your entire
Speaker 3: customer base and then don't get back to what you
Speaker 3: started out as, you might lose them for good. Meanwhile,
Speaker 3: in and Polaris, their sales are skyrocketing now more than ever,
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yes, yes, Indian, let's do this.
Speaker 2: I think Polaris bought Indian, didn't they.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I meant, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It was Indian
Speaker 3: and Unda for the gold Wing, which I still want
Speaker 3: a bobbed out gold Wing. Them bitches are so fast
Speaker 3: and so sick. But also it's you know.
Speaker 2: So, what did Harley do that was so woked? They
Speaker 2: come out with like a rainbow bike or some shit.
Speaker 3: Do you remember what bud Light did? Yeah? Yeah, Harley
Speaker 3: did that and didn't retract. Bud Light at least saw like, hey,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, we're losing a lot of money. Posy
Speaker 3: Shane Gillis, please come make this beer a manly beer again. Right,
Speaker 3: Harley went that way and then decided like no, we're
Speaker 3: gonna triple down on this. And it's like, okay, so
Speaker 3: maybe read the room and read your customer base. I'm
Speaker 3: not saying that people are not entitled to their own
Speaker 3: opinions and living their life over they want to live,
Speaker 3: do you you're a grown up, But like, if you
Speaker 3: have a company.
Speaker 2: No, it's a DEI thing. I just looked it up.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And if you have a company whose customer
Speaker 3: base specifically does not get down with woke ideologies, famously
Speaker 3: overtly does not get down with woke ideologies. Perhaps you
Speaker 3: should read The fucking Room right, But no, no, Germany
Speaker 3: owns Harley. Oh. Germans own Harley Davidson now, and they
Speaker 3: do not understand that at all. It's it's insane.
Speaker 2: I found The article is from the New York Post.
Speaker 2: It says Harley Davidson became the latest major brand to
Speaker 2: face backlash over its diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives, with
Speaker 2: a conservative online influencer calling for a boycott of the
Speaker 2: iconic motorcycle maker. Robbie Starbuck, who has more than a
Speaker 2: half a million followers on x accused the Wisconsin based
Speaker 2: company of having gone totally woke by hosting an LGBTQ
Speaker 2: plus boot camp at its offices, sponsoring pride events, and
Speaker 2: objecting white employees to DEI indoctrination. Last week. But this
Speaker 2: was uh July twenty July last year. Yeah, so last
Speaker 2: week the guy Starbuck, a former GOP candidate for a
Speaker 2: congressional seat in Tennessee, organized an online campaign that forced
Speaker 2: John Deere and Tractor Supply to walk back its DEI initiatives,
Speaker 2: including eliminating pride parades and festivals. Oh shit, dude, Yeah,
Speaker 2: how are you gonna make a fucking John Deere go
Speaker 2: DEI Like.
Speaker 3: You're cutting grass?
Speaker 2: Bro Like, why we gotta I gotta be so inclusive
Speaker 2: with your your lawn clippings.
Speaker 3: That's it's so subtley. I'm not saying that like LGBTQ
Speaker 3: plus two a element o P people do not cut
Speaker 3: their grass, not saying that, of course they do. Why
Speaker 3: as a company must you try to ride that wave
Speaker 3: like you don't see Mahindra doing this. You don't see
Speaker 3: a cub doing this. You don't see Caboda doing this.
Speaker 3: Even the big tractor companies like stop it, just stop it.
Speaker 3: And as a motorcycle brand, Harley, your entire brand has
Speaker 3: been a certain look, it's a certain image. And for
Speaker 3: the record, I've not been a big fan of Harley's
Speaker 3: in quite some time because HD Harley Davison used to
Speaker 3: also be known as one hundred dollars. And what I
Speaker 3: mean by that is if something breaks on it, you
Speaker 3: get back on the road for about one hundred bucks.
Speaker 3: These days, that bitch stands for high dollar. And because
Speaker 3: it's a name brand, oh my fucking god, one thing
Speaker 3: goes out on it, you're looking at spending about three
Speaker 3: four five maybe a grand. It's insane. It's like, no, meanwhile,
Speaker 3: you got these rice burners. Like my last bike was
Speaker 3: a Honda or Kawasaki Nomad fifteen hundred. Okay, it was
Speaker 3: a big cruiser style with a Japanese price tag. You
Speaker 3: know how many times that bitch left me on the
Speaker 3: side of the road zero zero.
Speaker 2: Hey, Asians just know how to make cars that last, dude.
Speaker 2: They know how to make vehicles that last for some reason.
Speaker 3: I mean, the Asians have perfected certain types of engineering.
Speaker 3: Mechanical would be one of them, for sure.
Speaker 2: So, in a ten minute video that was posted on x,
Speaker 2: Starbuck noted that Harley Davidson is a platinum founding member
Speaker 2: of the LGBT Chamber of Commerce in Wisconsin, which opposed
Speaker 2: banning transgender sex changes for children.
Speaker 3: Ah, dude, you see it now, you see why their
Speaker 3: scales are plummeting. You're a motorcycle.
Speaker 2: What does that have to do with transgender kids?
Speaker 3: They made it their problem, and now it's their fucking
Speaker 3: problem because no one wants to be associated with that brand. Dude,
Speaker 3: No one's buying Harley's.
Speaker 2: So Starbuck posted an advertisement in which the company touted
Speaker 2: the fact that it was all in on diversity and inclusion.
Speaker 2: The posts saw it comment from Harley Davidson. He also
Speaker 2: noted that Harley Davidson, CEO German Bord and businessman yoken'
Speaker 2: zeits uses uses his millions to change opinions on climate change.
Speaker 3: Here we go.
Speaker 2: Zeits has also He's also set a goal to make
Speaker 2: all Harley Davidson's all Harley Davidson vehicles run on electricity
Speaker 2: by twenty thirty and who.
Speaker 3: The fuck asked for that? As a motorcycle enthusiast, who
Speaker 3: in the actual fuck asked for electric Harley's I'll answer
Speaker 3: that only a very very very small portion of the people,
Speaker 3: and those people don't even ride bikes.
Speaker 2: So you know, pool of a motorcycle is whenever you
Speaker 2: first turn it on, like what was it just gonna
Speaker 2: sound like a quief in the wind. At that point
Speaker 2: you start up a fucking Harley Davidson and nobody even
Speaker 2: hears it, Like.
Speaker 3: Loud pipes save lives. And I know I'm not saying
Speaker 3: that just to be like, oh yeah, straight pipe. No, no, no, seriously,
Speaker 3: you should be able to hear me on the road,
Speaker 3: regardless of where I am positioned in traffic, Okay, and
Speaker 3: if you can't, that's a me problem. Yes, please give
Speaker 3: me a silent electric bike because it's already hard enough
Speaker 3: for us to be safe on the roads.
Speaker 2: But yeah, sure, my bad, Oh my god, it gets worse.
Speaker 2: It also sponsored an LGBTQ event that offered a rage
Speaker 2: room that was adjacent to a storytime room for children
Speaker 2: to interact with drag queens.
Speaker 3: So, like I said, Harley's sales have plummeted drastically, and
Speaker 3: they have not walked it back. They have not taken
Speaker 3: it back. And if they keep doing it like this,
Speaker 3: I don't think the company's going to survive for much longer.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 2: He also said that the company celebrated its legal department
Speaker 2: taking a Woke twenty one day racial equity and Literacy challenge,
Speaker 2: which promoted controversial works such as the sixteen to nineteen Project,
Speaker 2: as well as a book titled Black Panthers and White
Speaker 2: Lies Full on fucking woke, dude.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 2: The challenge also included work by Ebram X Kendy, the
Speaker 2: Boston University academic whose books have promoted the concept of
Speaker 2: anti racism, in which Starbucks said, I don't think the
Speaker 2: values at corporate reflect the values of nearly any har
Speaker 2: Harley Davidson bikers. I mean, for the record, I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that bikers are inherently racist or anti gay, but
Speaker 2: I just, you know, I think that if you look
Speaker 2: at the voting record at most Harley owners as opposed
Speaker 2: to what Harley Davidson the company is doing right now,
Speaker 2: perhaps they made.
Speaker 3: A misjudgment here. They miscalculated a bit very very similar
Speaker 3: to bud Light. Bud Light at least had the foresight
Speaker 3: to be like, hey, we need to bring in a comedian,
Speaker 3: a rap artist, Peyton Manning, we need to bring all
Speaker 3: these guys in to make bud Light go from being
Speaker 3: the woke beer to back to being the man's beverage,
Speaker 3: which it's not.
Speaker 2: They retracted it. They eventually did retract it. So it
Speaker 2: says this was only like a month or two afterward,
Speaker 2: It says Harley Davidson slams breaks on woke policies after
Speaker 2: sparking biker and social media outrage.
Speaker 3: Did you can't undo that damage? I'm sorry, especially in
Speaker 3: the biker community who people already were distrusting Harley for
Speaker 3: other reasons, especially the high price tag. And then y'all
Speaker 3: did this with it NA, so the Motorcycle.
Speaker 2: The motorcycle Maker says it no longer has DEI functions
Speaker 2: and vows to focus on retaining our loyal riding community.
Speaker 2: So they released a statement on Monday renouncing DEI and
Speaker 2: other controversial company initiatives in the wake of social media
Speaker 2: outrage and withering pressure from longtime loyal bikers. It is
Speaker 2: our It is critical to our business that we hire
Speaker 2: and retain the best talent and that all employees feel welcome.
Speaker 2: That said, we we have not operated a DEI function
Speaker 2: since April of twenty twenty four, and we do not
Speaker 2: have a DEI function today. We do not have hiring quotas,
Speaker 2: and we no longer have supplier diversity spend goals.
Speaker 3: Too little, too late, m dude, the biker community is
Speaker 3: not forget sorry, like big shwing in a miss.
Speaker 2: That's that's the thing, you know, biker communities. It's a
Speaker 2: loyalty thing, you know. And you took that loyalty and
Speaker 2: you said, go fuck yourself, and we're gonna take all
Speaker 2: this money, all this profit that we're making now. That
Speaker 2: being I know that we like to harp on bud
Speaker 2: Light and Target and Harley Davidson all the other DEI companies.
Speaker 2: But to be fair, it was it was like against
Speaker 2: the law, Borderline mandated to not implement a lot of
Speaker 2: the DEI stuff. And you see now that Trump is
Speaker 2: back in office, you have people that are boycotting Target
Speaker 2: now because Target was all for the DEI stuff until
Speaker 2: it wasn't mandated, and then they started to pull it.
Speaker 2: So it's not that they're sincere and genuine. Necessarily, it
Speaker 2: seems like the fucking Harley Davidson owner is full on
Speaker 2: about the gays, full on about the transgenders and and
Speaker 2: everything else. So I don't know if you can never
Speaker 2: take that back. I mean, I think that he should
Speaker 2: just sell the fucking company at this point because it's, uh,
Speaker 2: that is not a good look.
Speaker 3: But I understand trying to like appease the powers that
Speaker 3: be so you could stay in business, right, I get that,
Speaker 3: I do. The biker community is supposed to be countercultural.
Speaker 3: It's supposed to be against the status quo and against
Speaker 3: the grain. You're not supposed to bend the knee, especially
Speaker 3: when it's something that most of your customer base doesn't
Speaker 3: fuck with.
Speaker 2: And that being said, it's not that a company is
Speaker 2: pro transgender, it's it's pro gay, it's pro It's not
Speaker 2: that any of that stuff is bad. It's that they
Speaker 2: force it upon their workers. They force it in their
Speaker 2: hiring process. They look through a lens that is not realistic,
Speaker 2: Like you can't say, oh, wait, okay, well we need
Speaker 2: this many black people, this many Chinese people, this many
Speaker 2: gay people, this many transgender people. That's not the right
Speaker 2: way to look at a human based upon who they
Speaker 2: identify as. Whenever it comes to a fucking hiring process,
Speaker 2: it's going to crash and burn every single time. You
Speaker 2: need to hire the best and brightest if you want
Speaker 2: to be able to evolve and succeed, and that's the
Speaker 2: way that it should be. I could really care less
Speaker 2: if the if the fucking owner of Harley Davidson was
Speaker 2: a transgender I really don't care. But what you're forcing
Speaker 2: ideology on people, forcing it down people's throats a lot
Speaker 2: in the same way the Disney and all these other
Speaker 2: fucking Netflix and all that other shit. It seems like
Speaker 2: it's just forced, and that's what people have a problem with.
Speaker 2: Whenever you start forcing things down people's throats, you're trying
Speaker 2: to change the narrative of what you deem as you
Speaker 2: know this is this is the pinnacle of human evolution,
Speaker 2: that we finally got to a point where we are
Speaker 2: like just trying to push it as much as humanly possible.
Speaker 2: That's that's not a good thing because people don't like
Speaker 2: shit forced upon them, and whenever you force it upon people,
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a little fucking pushback. Just look at
Speaker 2: what's going on with Oh, what was it, the uh
Speaker 2: Snow White?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 2: Oh my, that movie lost like one hundred million dollars
Speaker 2: or one hundred and thirty million dollars or something.
Speaker 3: Crazy. Dude, the actress herself did everything possible to fuck
Speaker 3: over the movie. But then you look at it, why
Speaker 3: did Disney higher? You know what? Okay, there are certain
Speaker 3: roles that I understand that kind of can go between
Speaker 3: the lines of what racial demographic can portray a certain image. Okay,
Speaker 3: I get that. I get that. I don't believe that
Speaker 3: any movie based in Egypt, the pharaoh shouldn't be white. Okay,
Speaker 3: I believe this. I also believe the Pharaoh shouldn't be
Speaker 3: black because Egyptians aren't black, I know, but they're in Africa. Yeah,
Speaker 3: neither is Morocco. Neither is chat Okay, so my point,
Speaker 3: My point is, my point is getting off of the weeds.
Speaker 9: Here.
Speaker 3: Snow white snow what it is supposed to have hair
Speaker 3: as black as ebony and skin hot as snow, and
Speaker 3: they hire a Latina chick to be snow white, and
Speaker 3: they were shocked when things went sideways. Now, granted, I
Speaker 3: don't think they understood that she was gonna get on
Speaker 3: every microphone possible and just shit on everything. That was
Speaker 3: a big swing in a miss too. But like you
Speaker 3: know that that wouldn't work at the German story. They
Speaker 3: don't have Hispanic people from medieval Germany. I'm sorry that
Speaker 3: that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Did you see that Even Peter Dinklic was shitting all
Speaker 2: over it too good as far as like the the
Speaker 2: image of the Dwarfs and that he said that, look,
Speaker 2: you're you're fucking taking us back years. We fought, we
Speaker 2: fought so hard to get where we're at as far
Speaker 2: as somewhat being accepted within the realm of reality, and
Speaker 2: then you go and make us look like this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's an absolute mess. For all the great
Speaker 3: movies that Disney has put out lately, I don't know
Speaker 3: we understand that Disney is evil. I'm not negating that,
Speaker 3: But like the live action Lion King movie, pretty solid,
Speaker 3: the live action Beauty and the Beast. Hey, okay, I
Speaker 3: wasn't mad at it. Yes, I know there was a
Speaker 3: few things people got mad at from with in it,
Speaker 3: but like the movie itself, they stayed true to the
Speaker 3: cartoon form and like it was well done in my opinion.
Speaker 3: They started going off the rocker a little bit with
Speaker 3: The Little Mermaid, but you know what, Hey, who's to
Speaker 3: say what color of Mermaid can or can't be?
Speaker 2: Look, I'm I'm all for making it whatever color whenever.
Speaker 2: The Little Mermaid, although every single movie, every single cartoon,
Speaker 2: every single comic book that was ever made had that
Speaker 2: character depicted as all white. Now, I don't really care.
Speaker 2: We're talking about fiction. This is not reality. Little Mermaid
Speaker 2: never actually existed, so who really gives a fuck.
Speaker 3: My point on.
Speaker 2: It is, though, if you're going to take it a
Speaker 2: different color, I'm gonna get canceled for this one.
Speaker 3: White. Literally, within the literature, she's supposed to have skin
Speaker 3: of a certain pasty ass pigment. And it's not like
Speaker 3: I'm mad that here taking a white jobs. I'm saying
Speaker 3: that they're fucking up the story.
Speaker 2: If you're going to make the Little Mermaid not white,
Speaker 2: maybe you might want to pick a color that actually
Speaker 2: is pretty decent at swimming.
Speaker 3: That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 7: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I mean, let's just call a fucking spade of spade here.
Speaker 2: It's it's not even a myth. Like you go and
Speaker 2: you ask.
Speaker 3: Me, no, white's not supposed to swim. What are you
Speaker 3: saying right now? I'm talking about Little Mermaid? You keep
Speaker 3: on Little Mermaids? No what I said? Okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's oh wow, oh wow.
Speaker 2: If I haven't gotten canceled yet, maybe that was the uh,
Speaker 2: the straw of the book that broke the camel's back.
Speaker 3: Hot take, hot take.
Speaker 2: You had to say it, dude, But it's like, look
Speaker 2: at it like this. If somebody made a made a
Speaker 2: story about the fucking Nordic tall whites aliens and for
Speaker 2: some reason they're green.
Speaker 3: Who would watch that?
Speaker 2: Nobody would even know who you're talking about.
Speaker 3: I mean, like to say that, like a Viking movie
Speaker 3: would come out and they would clearly be a black Viking,
Speaker 3: because why wouldn't there be because there wasn't. That's like
Speaker 3: having them again a movie from Egypt and the pharaoh
Speaker 3: being black, Well, why wouldn't he be. He's in Africa,
Speaker 3: except Egyptians are not inherently black at all. That's sub
Speaker 3: Saharan Africa. That gets the melanin. But yeah, all right,
Speaker 3: well he's so mad. Whenever they did the Cleopatra three
Speaker 3: D image and it looked like the other thing, it
Speaker 3: looked like Britney bitch the whole thing, because that's what
Speaker 3: they looked like. That Cleopatra was of the Taoleomeg dynasty.
Speaker 3: She was Greek, her cousins had red fucking hair, and
Speaker 3: they were like, nah, bro, read a fucking history book.
Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 2: And conversely, I mean, since spirit animal has is raised,
Speaker 2: his hand raised, he is of Asian descent. If somebody
Speaker 2: was to recreate a real life Mulan, let's say Britney
Speaker 2: Spears was going to be that Mulan, you'd probably think
Speaker 2: there might be a little bit of fucking outrage, right,
Speaker 2: You'd be like, the fuck is going on here? Britney
Speaker 2: Spears over in ancient China or ancient wherever in Asia, wherever.
Speaker 2: That like, that's so ridiculous, even and I just want
Speaker 2: to make it known. I'm not coming at it from
Speaker 2: any type of racist angle. I know that all these
Speaker 2: stories are very fiction, Like these are not real, and
Speaker 2: they do this to ruffle people's feathers. I'm just saying it.
Speaker 3: They Mulan is a real story though, farm a warrior,
Speaker 3: but I'm saying, you know, the whole story.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that there were definitely fantasy aspects added to
Speaker 2: that story.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, there was no move ye went a little
Speaker 3: closer to the historical Mulan. I'll give that. The cartoon
Speaker 3: one was definitely, you know, a little sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Eddie Murphy is not gonna Eddie Murphy's
Speaker 2: voice is not going to be coming out of the
Speaker 2: voice of a fucking baby dragon like it in reality, obviously.
Speaker 9: But the actually, there's a bunch of animosity towards Assassin's
Speaker 9: creed in Japan right now, while Yesias was an actual person,
Speaker 9: he was older Nobnaga Gat pretty much was given him
Speaker 9: by Jesuit Peace.
Speaker 3: He was bought in as a slave.
Speaker 9: Obinagan gave him a sword, and did did give him
Speaker 9: a salary, and did give him the title of a samurai.
Speaker 9: But they would also do the shogun Nights would also
Speaker 9: do that with their favorite uh the favorite sumo wrestlers, but.
Speaker 3: It was more of an honor thing.
Speaker 9: They never went actually to battle or whatever, but they
Speaker 9: the uh improved japan Uh. In the new Assassin's Creed game,
Speaker 9: they have yas Uh pretty much sleep with his direct
Speaker 9: ancestry who was I can't remember her name, but she
Speaker 9: was held almost to a deity like figure because she
Speaker 9: was so faithful to her husband, and they pretty much
Speaker 9: just had her in this game a commit affair behind
Speaker 9: her husband's back with a essentially a a high status
Speaker 9: slave in so West because after as soon as the
Speaker 9: older knob Dad, he got sold back to the Jesuits
Speaker 9: and erased from history.
Speaker 3: Right that I didn't know that made an appearance.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, and like in Assassin's Creed, like for some reason,
Speaker 9: like for the past couple of games, they've been canonically bisexual,
Speaker 9: but makes sense for the Greeks, but not really the Vikings.
Speaker 9: But yeah, Japan's very fucking outraged and the the leader
Speaker 9: of Japan whacked. He wants to sue ubisof Montreal and
Speaker 9: the boycotting it, but everybody is telling to said, just
Speaker 9: get over it. To the point a couple of people
Speaker 9: that I played the game with. They they're telling me
Speaker 9: I should get over myself, and I'll say, I'm.
Speaker 3: Not gonna play.
Speaker 9: It's kind of disrespectful, and honestly, if you want to
Speaker 9: get it aspective, I recommend goes to Tsushima. But it's
Speaker 9: accurate and it's an actual semi.
Speaker 3: I did like some of the Assassin's Creed games of
Speaker 3: quote unquote more recent era, but Black Flag is about
Speaker 3: the last one that I thought was worth the fuck.
Speaker 3: And if we're gonna really be honest here, it should
Speaker 3: have died with that CEO. He was He was He
Speaker 3: was pretty much the quintessential end all beyond. It could
Speaker 3: have been an excellent thing, but they have tried to
Speaker 3: do it with every single fucking culture, and then they
Speaker 3: brought it to ancient Egypt. The Assassin Order didn't even
Speaker 3: exist back then. It started in the Crusades. It, yeah,
Speaker 3: but it's now.
Speaker 9: They wanted to expend it pretty much since the dawn
Speaker 9: of time, because you have the Code of Cosmos, and
Speaker 9: then you have the Hidden Ones, then you have the
Speaker 9: like you have the Assassins, but before they were assassins
Speaker 9: and everything, but the assassins gut wiped out.
Speaker 2: By the Huns.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, But like they could have
Speaker 3: taken that idea and made a Sakari version of it, right,
Speaker 3: the Jewish order of Assassins, they had a Nordic order
Speaker 3: of like high level assassins. They had all of these things.
Speaker 3: The Romans had a high level order of assassins. You
Speaker 3: didn't have to steal from the true historical assassins order
Speaker 3: to do all this other shit. You could have. You
Speaker 3: could have made an excellent game, a part of a trilogy,
Speaker 3: but still retained at least a crumb of the historical accuracy.
Speaker 3: But no, and I mean, even as I'm saying that,
Speaker 3: it's not like it's the auditory was actually homies with
Speaker 3: Leo da Vinci. I understand there's liberal liberty is taken,
Speaker 3: but like, I feel like they lost the message somewhere.
Speaker 3: That's just me.
Speaker 9: While I like a Black Flag, the fourth one, it
Speaker 9: actually takes place before Assassin's Squade three because you're playing
Speaker 9: as you're playing as the grandfather, than the son, and
Speaker 9: then the grandson. But I believe it should have stopped
Speaker 9: when Desmond died, Like that should have been the end
Speaker 9: of it. It should have stopped with a dup game
Speaker 9: as the end.
Speaker 3: Allree with that, and again like with the Assassins, Bro,
Speaker 3: you can make a whole game about Ninja's Assassin's creed Ninja,
Speaker 3: don't let it actually tie into the original Assassin's order.
Speaker 3: Let it be about the actual Ninja assassins that were
Speaker 3: running amok in that era, Like it could have been
Speaker 3: so cool, but they have to do what they do.
Speaker 3: They just have to do what they do, don't they.
Speaker 9: It's just kind of like everybody tries to say that
Speaker 9: how it wipe you will try to be dominant on everything,
Speaker 9: but it's like they go and tell people say, oh,
Speaker 9: we should be more diverse, but yet they actually go
Speaker 9: to actual diversity of actual people's culture and then just
Speaker 9: utterly destroyed to us to make people that have no
Speaker 9: connection to that feel connected when it's not really their story.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 3: The Assassins weren't white, they were not fuck like that's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I know, I know.
Speaker 9: By tradition what they uh uh either, wyn't they Islamic?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 9: I was trying to think the word. I couldn't remember
Speaker 9: if if there was an action or Islamic.
Speaker 3: No, no, they were Islamic, But I don't remember which
Speaker 3: sect I want to say Sufi. I could be wrong,
Speaker 3: but yeah, it was around the time of the Crusades,
Speaker 3: and it was they also got taken out by the
Speaker 3: Huns like the Mongols as they went in. And it
Speaker 3: was a whole thing because the assassins were their Their
Speaker 3: main string was that they could hide anywhere, right, and
Speaker 3: they were the hit and run tactics or the suicide tactics. Basically,
Speaker 3: you would kill the sultan, but his bodyguards would kill
Speaker 3: you immediately after. But like the mission got accomplished when
Speaker 3: the Hunts came in, and the man on the mountain
Speaker 3: pretty much that fortress was what he was living in.
Speaker 3: The assassins were not a military order that was built
Speaker 3: for siege warfare. They weren't a military order that was
Speaker 3: built for any of that type of warfare. It was
Speaker 3: only gorilla and assassinations and that was it. So yeah,
Speaker 3: they got taken out pretty heavily, pretty hard, pretty quick.
Speaker 3: But neither he know or there.
Speaker 9: It's funny how that Genghis Khan a Jengis Khan, depend
Speaker 9: on how you want to say it. How he he
Speaker 9: killed his brother and everything to gain the power and everything.
Speaker 9: Then through him he had killed so much. He really
Speaker 9: killed so much of the US population, he cut the
Speaker 9: carbon footprint. And one in I want to say ten
Speaker 9: Asians is a direct descendant of him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they would be killing and be fucking.
Speaker 3: It's like it was a life. Half of a percent
Speaker 3: of the entire Earth's population right now is directly related
Speaker 3: to him, because that's how that's how he liked to
Speaker 3: slang that dick. And then also, yeah, he killed so
Speaker 3: many people that he actually adjusted the carbon footprint of
Speaker 3: the human race, which I mean he was out.
Speaker 9: He one of his quotes is he said that God
Speaker 9: has judged you for your sins, and I am his punishment,
Speaker 9: and that shit goes hard.
Speaker 3: And also he was cool with religious freedom. He was
Speaker 3: cool with you being whatever religion you want. That's fine.
Speaker 3: He just wants you to pay his tribute.
Speaker 9: Seems reasonable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, some of his generals are Catholic as a matter
Speaker 3: of fact, it's the whole thing.
Speaker 9: And there was he had a guy who betrayed his
Speaker 9: his leader to let him in and then he said,
Speaker 9: I want to join you. Huh, well you just betrayed
Speaker 9: your your first uh. Later, so he killed him and
Speaker 9: he says, I'm not paying you he killed him, he says,
Speaker 9: So you're gonna betray me?
Speaker 2: Fuck that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you knew what he was doing, that's for sure. Man,
Speaker 3: I say, Jamie, your hand's been raised for a hot minute,
Speaker 3: big dog, which you got.
Speaker 4: So, Jengis Khan, you brought up a lot of good points,
Speaker 4: and I think they're very respectable and things to touch
Speaker 4: points on. So with Jengis, he's very He's a very
Speaker 4: interesting character. You know about his wife and all that stuff. Right,
Speaker 4: So when he was twelve thirteen years old, she was captured, right,
Speaker 4: we all know that. Right, he went and slaughtered a
Speaker 4: neighboring trib Yeah, that happened. So when it comes to him,
Speaker 4: he's a very interesting character because he was raised on
Speaker 4: blood slot. That's not a good thing. I'm not saying
Speaker 4: that's a good thing. Hands up here we go.
Speaker 3: Depends also for the day and age that was kind
Speaker 3: of how that area of the world did business.
Speaker 4: It's just it's it's what it is. Yeah, But then
Speaker 4: when you boil it down to what it is now,
Speaker 4: like it's one point eight percent if I'm not mistaken, Yeah,
Speaker 4: human history, right DNA, If I'm not mistaken, I think
Speaker 4: it's one point eight percent of mankind on this planet
Speaker 4: that was fathered from Jengis and the pronunciation is beyond me.
Speaker 4: I guess id hands up, I'm stupid. I'll say that
Speaker 4: every time I'm dumb. I ask a lot of questions.
Speaker 4: He actually did more more for the world. And I
Speaker 4: don't know if the carbon footprint thing is real, because
Speaker 4: the more humans you eliminate, the more you actually encourage,
Speaker 4: you actually incite, you actually fomb you, you actually do
Speaker 4: more with animals. And I don't know if you know anything.
Speaker 4: I'm stupid. Like I said, animals fought a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they do with that a lot. So the carbon dioxide
Speaker 4: is insane. Like my dog just just I'm like, what
Speaker 4: is that? Why did you do that? Like you didn't
Speaker 4: need to hold it in right, That's that's the thing.
Speaker 4: Like they have vowel movements, they toot, they're animals. So
Speaker 4: I find it very interesting that we think there's a
Speaker 4: core between humans passing away. That's sad, yeah, and the
Speaker 4: actual atmosphere or or Jonathan get Ready get Ready as
Speaker 4: a world flat around because that's spinning plays an effect
Speaker 4: no matter how you look at it. If you think
Speaker 4: the world spins, I don't have an idea. I'm stupid.
Speaker 4: I didn't punch in the face way too many times. Oh,
Speaker 4: but there is an actual argument.
Speaker 2: It's not flat or around, it's fucked.
Speaker 4: Hey you go, I like that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think the whole carbon footprint thing goes
Speaker 3: more towards like people burning fires to heat their homes
Speaker 3: or cook their food or whatever, and you're putting more
Speaker 3: carbon in the air. And how much of that was coal?
Speaker 3: How much of that was like types of oil, not
Speaker 3: like crude oil, but like you know, animal fat oil
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. And I don't even know how
Speaker 3: you would do the math because there's no actual number
Speaker 3: of death toll associated with him. There's like rough figures.
Speaker 3: And so that's what I'm saying, like, how do you
Speaker 3: really call the carbon footprint thing? But grand scheme of shit?
Speaker 3: I get where the uh where the experts are deriving
Speaker 3: the thought process from? For sure?
Speaker 4: Do you know I think that's I'm sorry, if I'm
Speaker 4: gonna insult anybody, is that not retaded?
Speaker 3: I guess in some way? For sure?
Speaker 4: That's like that you got to show me fact stated timeline.
Speaker 4: You have to show me how this is impactful, and
Speaker 4: you know, you have to show me. The number is
Speaker 4: when did it sat Like it's the whole thing, with
Speaker 4: the whole dinosaurs turned into crude oil and none doesn't
Speaker 4: make sense.
Speaker 2: And to be fair, I was just curious. I'm aware
Speaker 2: that we live on Earth and we are carbon based
Speaker 2: systems here, and I was curious. I was like, our
Speaker 2: most natural things on Earth carbon based. I couldn't remember
Speaker 2: that from It's been a long time since I've been
Speaker 2: in high school. But yes, most natural things on Earth
Speaker 2: are carbon based. As carbon is a primary component of
Speaker 2: all known life forms and is essential for the structure
Speaker 2: of biological molecules like proteins, lipids, and nucleic acids. Carbon's
Speaker 2: ability to form stable bonds with various elements makes it
Speaker 2: the backbone of life on our planet. So I say
Speaker 2: that because they're so like carbon hungry, you know, like
Speaker 2: like we're whenever you're talking about like reducing carbon in
Speaker 2: the atmosphere.
Speaker 4: Like everyone has has a mintal list of one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got Bill Gates fucking burying trees. It's like
Speaker 2: because it would create too much of a carbon footprint
Speaker 2: if you were to burn them or whatever, which is,
Speaker 2: to put it, in your words, retarded, and uh, we're
Speaker 2: all carbon based forms here, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So to say that we have a carbon issue, it's like,
Speaker 2: what are they really trying to say here? That's the
Speaker 2: way I look at it.
Speaker 3: And we've talked about this a few times before. Dude,
Speaker 3: the active volcano in Hawaii right now, in one year's time,
Speaker 3: the exhaust off of that bitch puts more carbon into
Speaker 3: the air than humanity has done since ever, the beginning
Speaker 3: period ever. So yeah, it's totally our fault that the
Speaker 3: Earth is sad and that's why things are changing. It's
Speaker 3: because we made plastic bags. It's our fault.
Speaker 2: And also to add on top of that, obviously the
Speaker 2: a volcano is a natural Earth thing, right, So to
Speaker 2: say the carbon going into the atmosphere is not good
Speaker 2: for the Earth, or it's bad for the atmosphere and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, it's like, dude, volcano has been around
Speaker 2: since the fucking beginning of time and Earth is still here.
Speaker 3: We understand that trees in hand carbon dioxide and exhale oxygen,
Speaker 3: right Like, that's a thing that happens literally every single night.
Speaker 4: So the more carbon we introduce, the more plants that
Speaker 4: we have, which means more oxygen.
Speaker 3: We're giving the plants more food or more air to breathe. Essentially. Now,
Speaker 3: there is a limit to that, right, because not all
Speaker 3: carbon is good carbon. There is like the coal does
Speaker 3: produce soot and that does produce pollution, and like, okay,
Speaker 3: petroleum products, fossil fuels quote unquote fossil fuels like crude
Speaker 3: oil that does put out other toxins rather than just carbon,
Speaker 3: And like, I get that, fine, we should we should
Speaker 3: have some sort of like filtration systems on these things.
Speaker 3: We should try to make cleaner energy. I am agreeing
Speaker 3: with most of these things. But at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, there's only It's like the water cycle. There
Speaker 3: is x amount of water on this earth a thousand
Speaker 3: years ago, two thousand years ago today, there's x amount
Speaker 3: of water. Some of that's in our body as blood.
Speaker 3: Some of that's in the sky as clouds, some of
Speaker 3: that is in Antarctica's some of that's in the ocean.
Speaker 3: There's only so much fucking water. Carbon is arguably in
Speaker 3: the same realm.
Speaker 4: Are you sure?
Speaker 3: I said arguably? You know there's levels, That's.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying. Though it is like a you sure,
Speaker 4: because the only meteorites we have things coming into the universe.
Speaker 4: We have things come into our atmosphere NonStop.
Speaker 3: There, space poticles, my theory about why the waters are
Speaker 3: decreasing or rising whatever it is at this moment, depending
Speaker 3: on which source you read. We allegedly have a higher
Speaker 3: population on Earth than we've allegedly ever had, which means
Speaker 3: we have way more water sacks walking around the Earth
Speaker 3: right now than ever before. So that water had to
Speaker 3: come from somewhere. And these are also carbon based life forms,
Speaker 3: which that carbon had to come from somewhere.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: Energy can't be greater or destroyed, only transferred. So is
Speaker 3: it possible that that's why we have a quote unquote
Speaker 3: higher carbon footprint and why the temperature of the Earth
Speaker 3: is changing, and why the water levels are doing what
Speaker 3: they're doing because we be fucking.
Speaker 4: We be fucking a lot. Just humans, we'd be doing that.
Speaker 4: But no, like when you you said earlier and totally
Speaker 4: recall you were questioning about cross like, did the ocean
Speaker 4: ever freeze over.
Speaker 6: That?
Speaker 4: That is a good question, right, salt content, it's not normally,
Speaker 4: that's not a thing, right, So we're talking about uh,
Speaker 4: temperatures of the Earth. The question is not if it happened,
Speaker 4: it for sure happened right right, Like, because we know
Speaker 4: people from Russia came to America for sure, and that's
Speaker 4: why you have Native Americans.
Speaker 3: The Bearing straight land Bridge right right. And we do
Speaker 3: know that salt water does freeze natural glaciers. It does happen.
Speaker 4: It happens. But that's all fresh water.
Speaker 3: Not the like the Antarctica and stuff. I mean, you
Speaker 3: go to like the North Pole, and that's all salt
Speaker 3: water that's frozen.
Speaker 4: I'll have a look into that. I can't prove that.
Speaker 4: I can't waste I can't list fact datas and timelines
Speaker 4: on that one.
Speaker 2: But it's all just we're all just speculating at this point.
Speaker 2: You know, it's either believe history, believe science, believe you know,
Speaker 2: the main narrative, which a lot of people are very
Speaker 2: comfortable with. You know, what reason do you have to
Speaker 2: question science and history? Well, I would say the past
Speaker 2: couple of years probably taught you a little bit of that,
Speaker 2: But that's neither here nor there. Or you can speculate,
Speaker 2: come up with opinions of your own, and that's that's
Speaker 2: really what the show is really all about, dude. It's
Speaker 2: just all about speculating. Like and I get it like
Speaker 2: you know it. Sometimes you might feel a little kooky
Speaker 2: or a little wacky whenever you bring up certain theories
Speaker 2: or whatnot. But fucking somebody's got to do it, dude,
Speaker 2: Like we somebody's got a question and possibly lay out
Speaker 2: an alternative story here. Otherwise you're just everybody's gonna believe
Speaker 2: the the main narrative. But but that means said spirit animal.
Speaker 2: I wanted to save you for last sir, But before
Speaker 2: we get to you, I want to jump to Merlin first, Merlin,
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts?
Speaker 15: Okay, So, like I'm trying to lean towards more what
Speaker 15: Randall Carlson leans into where he thinks there's a big
Speaker 15: asteroid impact at the end of the last Ice Age, Well,
Speaker 15: is what caused the last Ice Age to end? At
Speaker 15: the same time, go Beckley Tad Bay was said to
Speaker 15: be built. Oh, with all that water floods into the
Speaker 15: oceans wipes out everything from the glacier impact, Then why
Speaker 15: does that do the ecosystem in a pendulum swink Like
Speaker 15: it sends the ecosystem into a complete shock one way,
Speaker 15: and maybe we're experiencing that pendulum swinging back this way
Speaker 15: and now we're just seeing that transition of a major
Speaker 15: fuck up.
Speaker 3: Well not fuck up, but you know what I mean. No, no, no, absolutely,
Speaker 3: like equilibrium has to be reachieved and it may not
Speaker 3: happen in the course of fifty years, it might take
Speaker 3: a few MILLENNIU.
Speaker 15: I'm with you exactly, Like all those glaciers weren't supposed
Speaker 15: to melt at that rate, but when the comment hit it, it
Speaker 15: forced everything to speed up really fast. I mean that's
Speaker 15: Sahara used to be a tropical place according to the Egyptians, right,
Speaker 15: and two thousand years that turned to a desert. So
Speaker 15: I mean, the Earth goes through these changes and it's
Speaker 15: just yeah, it's kind of worse.
Speaker 2: That's I just I think that history should not be
Speaker 2: entirely something that is agreed upon. Same thing goes for science.
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, like, I think that whenever
Speaker 2: you start talking about something that happened hundreds or thousands
Speaker 2: of years ago, you kind of just got to take
Speaker 2: a lot of it on faith, because I don't know
Speaker 2: the scientific methods of which they're determining how something was
Speaker 2: existing thousands of years ago, or what the Earth was
Speaker 2: like thousands of years ago. Fuck, I don't know how
Speaker 2: to prove something happened last year. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 2: unless I got picture or video or something like that,
Speaker 2: I'm just a your average Joe. And that's the thing
Speaker 2: is that so much of it has been lied about
Speaker 2: because and maybe it's not even for you know, uh
Speaker 2: negative type of means. Maybe they just they don't want
Speaker 2: to have to change up their history books. They don't
Speaker 2: want to have to change up their science books. They
Speaker 2: want to be right. And if you backpedal on what
Speaker 2: you've taught for one hundred years, two hundred years or whatever,
Speaker 2: then you're probably gonna lose a little bit of trust.
Speaker 2: And I imagine that's probably a stance that they have
Speaker 2: thought about before, right, Like it's kind of hard to backpedal.
Speaker 2: Of course, you know, they got new science. It's a
Speaker 2: new history that's always coming out saying, well, now we've
Speaker 2: discovered this, now we've discovered that.
Speaker 3: But the problem with that is is.
Speaker 2: That you know, what about all those hundreds of years
Speaker 2: that you taught everybody in school, or you taught everybody
Speaker 2: in some type of way that this was the absolute
Speaker 2: fact and you and you made all of those people
Speaker 2: look like idiots, the ones that were questioning the actual
Speaker 2: validity of whatever whatever it is you're trying to push,
Speaker 2: and then one hundred or two hundred years later you're saying, oh,
Speaker 2: those people were right. So those people were then turned
Speaker 2: into make it look like idiots, right, And so that's
Speaker 2: what I'm trying to say. I think the science I
Speaker 2: don't want to go into history so much, but I
Speaker 2: think the science is always going to be changing, and
Speaker 2: it should always change personally.
Speaker 3: I mean, to a degree, I agree with you. But yeah,
Speaker 3: that's how it works. When new science or new information
Speaker 3: comes out that can be verified and replace the old standard,
Speaker 3: and they explained how they had it wrong and why
Speaker 3: they believed this, and now we understand this. Like that's
Speaker 3: that's how the scientific method progresses. That's how education happens,
Speaker 3: like true education, I mean, just like public school system. Shit.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's how like true academia should be happening.
Speaker 2: I mean, Darwin's theory about evolution was pretty well accepted
Speaker 2: there for a hot minute, wasn't it.
Speaker 3: He himself denounced it before he died. But at that
Speaker 3: point that the fire had already been started, and all
Speaker 3: that did was start the eugenics conversation, which boy, oh, boy.
Speaker 2: Just because he redacted, it doesn't necessarily mean that they
Speaker 2: stopped teaching it.
Speaker 3: They teach it as a theory, sure, but it's also
Speaker 3: it's like the same theory we said earlier. If that
Speaker 3: was true, then we wouldn't have monkeys anymore. Likes that's
Speaker 3: been disproven beyond shadows of doubts.
Speaker 2: Sure, I don't know anyway, Spirit Animal. Can we get
Speaker 2: your send off here?
Speaker 3: Sir?
Speaker 2: It's about that time, so I might need you to
Speaker 2: unmute yourself there first before you start screaming that high bastard,
Speaker 2: you're too high. You need to unmute yourself first.
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Speaker 9: Much love from the Creek Boys also to go a
Speaker 9: quick thing. The pestilence came after Genghis Khan or was
Speaker 9: he the pestilence exactly because his uh uh trade routes
Speaker 9: cause the black plague?
Speaker 3: Yes, they did. And with that being said, this was another.
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