1 00:00:21,719 --> 00:00:22,359 Speaker 1: And here we are. 2 00:00:23,559 --> 00:00:24,559 Speaker 2: Thank you for coming by. 3 00:00:24,719 --> 00:00:25,879 Speaker 1: Hi, how are you happy? 4 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: Monday? Today is the eighth day of September, year of 5 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,520 Our Lord twenty twenty five. My name is Tom Sullivan. 6 00:00:34,759 --> 00:00:39,840 So I got a busy week, and we'll start off 7 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,880 with what are they going to do in Chicago? Yeah, 8 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,840 people in Chicago are wondering too what they're going to do. 9 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,200 We're talking about ice and what they're going to be doing. 10 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,159 We've got vaccines still in the news. The auto pen. 11 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,119 This is getting to be interesting about the auto pen. 12 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:02,320 This starting to look like nobody knows those who said 13 00:01:02,359 --> 00:01:04,640 to use the auto pin. So we've got all of that. 14 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,040 Let's start with Let let's start with ice and the 15 00:01:11,079 --> 00:01:16,519 fact that Chicago is just one of the city. Boston 16 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,799 is another one, Baltimore another one. So but the focus 17 00:01:20,799 --> 00:01:22,920 seems to be on the presidents that he'll make a 18 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,640 decision within the next one or two days about what 19 00:01:25,719 --> 00:01:30,359 to do about going into Chicago. And I guess the 20 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,959 first place to start would be with Tom Homan. The 21 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,280 borders are when what he wants to do? Uh and 22 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,560 and his ideas about Chicago. 23 00:01:42,599 --> 00:01:46,799 Speaker 3: Illinois Governor PRIs chosenovo pipe from day one, Ice agents 24 00:01:46,799 --> 00:01:49,879 have been flooding the zone in Chicago for a while now, 25 00:01:50,159 --> 00:01:52,519 so he's aware of what's going on. He knows we've 26 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,920 been there. We were there last week, we're there the 27 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,599 week before. Now we know again we're going to send 28 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,840 additional resources to all sanctuary cities. But this isn't new 29 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,359 to him. He knows we've been there, and he's failed 30 00:02:02,359 --> 00:02:04,599 to work with us. The Mary Johnson has failed to 31 00:02:04,599 --> 00:02:06,799 work with us. And when you release a public safety 32 00:02:06,799 --> 00:02:09,680 thread back into the public, it makes the community unsafe. 33 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,719 It makes us unsafe for our agents had to go 34 00:02:11,759 --> 00:02:13,919 into a community and try to find somebody give us 35 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,639 a public safety threat, and the safety and security of 36 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,960 Accounty Jail makes it safer for everybody. 37 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: It does. I couldn't agree with him more. And this 38 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,479 is I think the head scratcher out of all of 39 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:30,680 this is that ICE is the Immigration and Customs Enforcement 40 00:02:30,879 --> 00:02:36,439 They're a police agency of federal law enforcement agency. They're 41 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,840 just the same. They have different missions, but they're just 42 00:02:39,879 --> 00:02:42,919 the same as another federal one you might have heard of, 43 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:48,800 the FBI. The FBI has offices in Chicago, they have 44 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:55,240 them in all major cities around the country. DEA atf 45 00:02:55,560 --> 00:03:00,439 all of these are federal law enforcement agencies. Is just 46 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,120 another one of them. You don't hear them screaming about 47 00:03:04,159 --> 00:03:06,879 the FBI being in their cities. You don't hear them 48 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:12,800 screaming about ATF or deea drug enforcement or alcohol, tobacco firearms. 49 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,479 They've been around in these cities for a long long time. 50 00:03:16,479 --> 00:03:20,919 So this has to be a political motivated stunt to 51 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,639 get people riled up about the fact that the federal 52 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,960 government is enforcing immigration laws just like the FBI enforces 53 00:03:29,039 --> 00:03:33,680 federal laws. It's fascinating. Then the other part about this is, 54 00:03:33,719 --> 00:03:37,960 and the Boston mayor has been repeating this a lot 55 00:03:38,759 --> 00:03:43,039 about she's standing up for the citizens. But I'm going 56 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:49,439 what Tom Homan talked about was if your police department, Chicago, Boston, Baltimore, 57 00:03:49,479 --> 00:03:53,080 if they have arrested somebody out on the streets, because 58 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,520 the police have reasonable grounds to believe they committed a crime, 59 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,919 and they're in your jail and they're not here legally, 60 00:04:03,719 --> 00:04:07,159 why can't you call us up and we'll come over 61 00:04:07,199 --> 00:04:09,840 to the jail, and in the confines and privacy of 62 00:04:09,879 --> 00:04:13,120 the jail, we will take your handcuffs off and we'll 63 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,079 put ours on, and we'll take the person to a 64 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,560 detention center and then to deportation. It's a process that 65 00:04:20,759 --> 00:04:27,279 would be seamless. There wouldn't be ICE agents chasing people 66 00:04:27,319 --> 00:04:32,000 through home depot parking lots. It would be safer for everybody. 67 00:04:32,439 --> 00:04:36,240 If they are already arrested by your police department and 68 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:41,800 they're in your jail. Why do you resist not letting 69 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,279 the ICE agents know that you have them and turn 70 00:04:46,319 --> 00:04:51,120 them over to them. I'm sorry, it just seems to 71 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,079 be common sense to do that, but they're not. It's 72 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,839 a weird time that we're in. But there's also a 73 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:01,720 big difference between sending ice A agents in there. Like 74 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,759 Tom Holman said, they've already been in Chicago for a 75 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,560 couple of weeks. It is different between that and the 76 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,680 National Guard. The National Guard is part of the military. 77 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,720 There's a posse commatatis law which says it was passed 78 00:05:16,759 --> 00:05:19,959 in the eighteen hundreds that you can't use the military 79 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,600 for civilian law enforcement on US soil. They can fight 80 00:05:24,639 --> 00:05:29,639 wars on foreign soil, but not they can't fight American citizens. 81 00:05:29,879 --> 00:05:34,439 Elie Honig, former sd and Y prosecutor, kind of lays 82 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:35,279 out the difference. 83 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's a really important distinction here between federal 84 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,480 law enforcement agencies on the one hand, and all the 85 00:05:41,519 --> 00:05:44,720 agencies I just named, ice, FBI, DEA would fall into 86 00:05:44,759 --> 00:05:48,079 that bucket that with respect to those agencies, the Feds 87 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,560 can do essentially whatever they want separately. And this is 88 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,560 the Judge Briar decision. There's the question of deployment of 89 00:05:53,639 --> 00:05:56,839 the National Guard. Now, what Judge Briar is ruling out 90 00:05:56,879 --> 00:06:00,000 in California and Federal court said is you cannot use 91 00:06:00,439 --> 00:06:04,279 the military, including the National Guard, to conduct civilian law 92 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,480 enforcement operations or really even to go out into the 93 00:06:07,519 --> 00:06:11,720 field and provide support and perimeters for law enforcement operations. 94 00:06:11,759 --> 00:06:13,600 So I think we certainly are going to see that 95 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,279 decision appeal that has been appealed up to the Ninth 96 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,399 Circuit Court of Appeals. But if and when Donald Trump 97 00:06:19,399 --> 00:06:22,199 tries to send the National Guard into other cities, look 98 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,439 at some of those cities to point to Judge Briar's 99 00:06:24,519 --> 00:06:27,480 ruling and saying there's very little that the National Guard 100 00:06:27,519 --> 00:06:30,560 can do other than sort of passively protect federal assets. 101 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 2: And that essentially is what the Guard did in Los Angeles. 102 00:06:34,399 --> 00:06:38,920 They went and protected the federal building there and did 103 00:06:38,959 --> 00:06:42,079 not go out with the LAPD to enforce laws. But 104 00:06:43,439 --> 00:06:46,319 that was Elie Honey from earlier this morning. This afternoon, 105 00:06:46,959 --> 00:06:51,000 we got ruling from the Supreme Court, and what the 106 00:06:51,439 --> 00:06:55,920 Supreme Court said this afternoon was they loosened restrictions on 107 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,680 immigration raids in Los Angeles. We're not going now, we're 108 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,839 talking National Guard. This is about ICE going around LA 109 00:07:03,879 --> 00:07:08,879 and chasing people down that are illegally here. So the 110 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,279 Supreme Court granted an emergency request by the Trump administration 111 00:07:13,399 --> 00:07:17,639 to remove the limits with while the litigation continues. So 112 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,920 this isn't over. But ICE can go around LA doing 113 00:07:22,959 --> 00:07:26,439 whatever they want to do. As LA pointed out, federal 114 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,920 police agencies don't have restrictions, but the Los Angeles tried 115 00:07:31,959 --> 00:07:35,800 to restrict ICE. That'd be like restricting the FBI. 116 00:07:36,639 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: So no, the. 117 00:07:39,319 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: National Guard can only protect federal assets. They can't go 118 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:49,639 charging around doing law enforcement, but ICE certainly can. President 119 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:54,160 was asked about this earlier this morning, and Jeff Mason 120 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,360 from Reuters responded. 121 00:07:56,079 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 5: Chicago is a very dangerous place, and we have a 122 00:07:59,399 --> 00:08:01,560 governor that doesn't care about drive. 123 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,399 Speaker 1: I guess we. 124 00:08:03,399 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 5: Could solve Chicago very quickly. But we're going to make 125 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,920 a decision as to where we go over the next day. 126 00:08:08,839 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: Or two, okay, And Jeff Mason from Writers responded to that. 127 00:08:13,199 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 6: Well, So then the question before that answer was do 128 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,680 you have plans for Chicago this week? And he was ambiguous, 129 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,000 And I think that has been kind of interesting to 130 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,279 watch the President go back and forth on whether he 131 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,680 wanted or when he plans to go into Chicago. He 132 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,319 said last week we're definitely going in that he pulled 133 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,680 back a little bit. The borders are, the immigrations are. 134 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,159 Mister Homan said over the weekend that it's going to happen. 135 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,440 So it's like they're kind of messing with people a 136 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,799 little bit. But as you know, you rightly said clearly 137 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,080 the plans are in place. But I think he's trying 138 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,840 to keep folks guessing a little bit, And I think 139 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,519 the politics of that are also clearly playing a role. 140 00:08:49,159 --> 00:08:51,120 The fact that he brought up New Orleans last week 141 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,240 and is talking about now going into Republican states where 142 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,159 he thinks that they will be welcomed may show that 143 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,799 there is some legal wrangling going behind this, behind the. 144 00:09:00,519 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 2: So to summarize, ICE can go wherever they want in 145 00:09:04,399 --> 00:09:09,799 this country. They're a federal law enforcement agency. The National Guard, however, 146 00:09:10,039 --> 00:09:15,000 is restricted unless a governor invites the National Guard in. 147 00:09:15,519 --> 00:09:18,960 So at this point we'll see what they do in Chicago, 148 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,440 But it sounds like something's going to happen within the 149 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,759 next couple of days. If it's the just Ice, there's 150 00:09:24,799 --> 00:09:29,039 nothing to worry about, nothing to do. And if it's 151 00:09:29,279 --> 00:09:31,679 the National Guard that I'm sure the governor of Illinois 152 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,840 is probably going to run to the court. And speaking 153 00:09:33,879 --> 00:09:37,720 of waiting, we're waiting to see what the President's going 154 00:09:37,759 --> 00:09:42,279 to do about Russia. He says he talks to Putin 155 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,000 and he's going to talk to him again soon, and 156 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,679 all of that has been talked about over and over 157 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:55,279 and over. President said he's ready to hit Russia with 158 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,120 more sanctions. He'll speak to Vladimir Putin within the next 159 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,840 couple of days. There was a massive attack over the 160 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:08,279 weekend on Kiev, eight hundred drones and multiple missiles. I mean, 161 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,000 Vladimir Putin is not slowing down in any way, shape 162 00:10:12,039 --> 00:10:16,759 or form. Scott Besn't, the Treasurer Secretary, had this to say. 163 00:10:17,159 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: We are prepared to increase pressure in Russia, but we 164 00:10:20,399 --> 00:10:23,919 need our European partners to follow us, because if the 165 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,000 US and the EU do this together. We are in 166 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:33,200 a race now between how long can the Ukrainian military 167 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,840 hold up versus how long can the Russian economy hold up? 168 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,559 And if the US and the EU can come in 169 00:10:41,639 --> 00:10:45,279 to more sanctioned secondary tariffs on the countries that buy 170 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,720 Russian oil, the Russian economy will be in full collapse 171 00:10:49,759 --> 00:10:51,879 and that will bring present putin to the table. 172 00:10:52,039 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 2: Okay, that's great, And we keep talking about China is 173 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,639 buying Russian oil and India is buying Russian oil, and 174 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,120 we've slap fifty percent tariffs on India, but we've done 175 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,039 next to nothing on China, and China is buying much 176 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,519 more oil from Russia than India is. In fact, India 177 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,759 is complaining saying, how come you're being so tough on us, 178 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,879 what about China? So there's that question. The other problem 179 00:11:19,919 --> 00:11:22,600 that nobody seems to be talking about. You know who 180 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:28,360 else is buying Russian oil. European countries are NATO friends, 181 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:33,840 our allies, They are buying oil from Russia. So we've 182 00:11:33,879 --> 00:11:38,360 got to stop everybody, or slow down everybody from buying 183 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,279 Russian oil, and the Russian economy will collapse. That is 184 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,600 not exactly the same, but it's in the same paragraph 185 00:11:45,919 --> 00:11:49,039 as what Ronald Reagan did to defeat the Soviet Union 186 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:54,519 without firing a bullet. He collapsed their economy over there 187 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,240 are one horse town. Russia only has oil to sell. 188 00:11:58,639 --> 00:12:02,360 They don't have anything else. Reagan made sure that the 189 00:12:02,399 --> 00:12:07,080 oil prices were so low that Russia Soviet Union collapsed. 190 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:11,000 And this is an opportunity for the European Union and 191 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:15,440 the European Union countries to get on board with stopping 192 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:21,200 funding the war against Ukraine. I can't believe it. Dan Hoffman, 193 00:12:21,639 --> 00:12:25,759 former CIA station chief in Moscow response. 194 00:12:25,639 --> 00:12:26,159 Speaker 1: I don't know. 195 00:12:26,519 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 7: President Trump rolled out the red carpet in Alaska. He's 196 00:12:29,519 --> 00:12:34,440 offered Putin an off ramp and a commercial reset for 197 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,039 Russia with Europe and the United States, and Putin has 198 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,679 remained focused on his strategic objective of overthrowing the democratically 199 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:47,120 elected government of Ukraine and has increased the intensity of 200 00:12:47,519 --> 00:12:53,000 Russia's barbaric strikes, missile and drone strikes on Ukrainian civilians. 201 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,559 So I think the question for the US government is 202 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,679 are the secondary sanctions enough Given the fact that Russia 203 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,919 has now highly dependent upon China and India for the 204 00:13:02,919 --> 00:13:07,120 export of their hydrocarbons. Would our secondary sanctions really destroy 205 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,600 Russia's economy? For the intelligence community in the United States, 206 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,159 what are Putin's plans and intentions, How would he respond 207 00:13:13,159 --> 00:13:16,639 to those secondary sanctions? And should we increase the input 208 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,519 of military assistance to Ukraine so they can better defend 209 00:13:19,519 --> 00:13:22,440 themselves and continue to make this war a loser for 210 00:13:22,519 --> 00:13:25,720 Vladimir Putin? Well, I think President Trump saw the larger 211 00:13:26,039 --> 00:13:33,000 the picture where he could potentially break the Russian dependency 212 00:13:33,039 --> 00:13:37,120 on China, break that alliance, and bring Russia back into 213 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,679 the fold. There's always been a tension in Russia between 214 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,360 its relationship with Europe and with Asia. But I think 215 00:13:43,399 --> 00:13:46,240 the best way to do that is to win this 216 00:13:46,399 --> 00:13:50,879 war and protect Ukraine's independence, protect Europe from any further 217 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:55,240 Russian attacks, and make it clear to Russia's benefactors China, 218 00:13:55,279 --> 00:13:59,519 North Korea and Iran that whole alliance this century's access 219 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,679 of dict hatterships is a loser for them. That's going 220 00:14:02,759 --> 00:14:04,720 to put a lot of pressure on Vladimir Putin as 221 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,440 a leader, because it's going to show that he made 222 00:14:07,519 --> 00:14:10,480 this horrific mistake to invade Ukraine. It's cost him a 223 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,279 million casualties Sweden and Finland are NATO members, and as 224 00:14:14,279 --> 00:14:16,759 we've pointed out, his economy is suffering. 225 00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: Well before we were too far away from Scott Bessant. 226 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,919 I'm impressed by our Troasury secretary. He's a very successful 227 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,840 hedge fund manager, but he seems to be the adult 228 00:14:28,919 --> 00:14:31,480 in the room when it comes to the cabinet officers. 229 00:14:32,039 --> 00:14:37,519 But he obviously he's a big guy. He doesn't take 230 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:42,399 any guff off of anybody. I forget how long ago, 231 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,440 this was three or four months ago. He and Elon 232 00:14:45,559 --> 00:14:48,159 Musk got into it a shoving match with each other, 233 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,279 and Musk is a big, tall guy himself, but Scott 234 00:14:52,279 --> 00:14:59,720 Bessant did not any sounds so so poised and anyway, 235 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,480 he's he's not a pushover. So he got into it 236 00:15:02,519 --> 00:15:05,639 with Elon Musk a number of months ago. And now 237 00:15:05,759 --> 00:15:08,840 over the weekend there was a private dinner that was 238 00:15:08,919 --> 00:15:12,279 attended by It looked pretty much like all of the 239 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:17,000 cabinet members were there. It wasn't a cabinet meeting, but 240 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,799 all the big names were Actually this wasn't over the way. 241 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,559 It was actually a reporter over the weekend, but this 242 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:28,600 took place last Wednesday. There's a new exclusive Georgetown club 243 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:34,960 called the Executive Branch, and it was attended by Scott Besson, 244 00:15:35,159 --> 00:15:38,919 but he also ran into Bill POULTI Bill Poulty is 245 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,039 the guy Scott bessnt made his own money. Bill Poulty 246 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:48,200 is the grandson of the founder of Poulty Holmes, and 247 00:15:48,279 --> 00:15:50,159 so he grew up with a lot of money and 248 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,840 his dad had a lot of money, and he had 249 00:15:51,879 --> 00:15:54,159 a lot of money. He's in his thirties and he's 250 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:58,279 the head of the Federal Housing Finance Authority. He's the 251 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:03,240 guy that's running around finding mortgage fraud on Lisa Cook 252 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:08,840 at the Federal Reserve. And you know, he's going after 253 00:16:08,919 --> 00:16:13,440 a bunch of Democrats. But apparently he also has been 254 00:16:13,559 --> 00:16:18,120 bad mouthing. He's a backstabber apparently, and he's been backstabbing 255 00:16:19,039 --> 00:16:24,120 Scott Besson. So Besson walked up to him and everybody 256 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,279 was doing wonderful polite chit chat, and Besson said, why 257 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,600 the f are you talking to the president about me? 258 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:36,200 Fu On Pault He's responded and he said I'm going 259 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,519 to punch Well, Besson told him, I'm going to punch 260 00:16:38,559 --> 00:16:42,679 you in your effing face. So this scene was described 261 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:48,039 by a number of people who Paulty appeared stunned and 262 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,360 a tense encounter out of the whole thing. But he 263 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,919 told he turned to the manager of this executive club 264 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,080 and said, it's either me or him. You tell me 265 00:16:59,159 --> 00:17:03,159 who's getting the f out of here? And he said 266 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,599 Paulty said to do what to talk and Beston said no, 267 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:12,559 I'm going to beat your behind in more flowery words. 268 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:19,720 So they Faulty and Besant are getting into it, and 269 00:17:19,759 --> 00:17:23,599 what Besson's upset about is people talking behind his back 270 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:28,400 to the President. We'll see how this works out. But 271 00:17:28,559 --> 00:17:31,559 I would think, because I've heard the President talk very 272 00:17:31,599 --> 00:17:34,680 highly of Scott Besant before, that Beston's going to win 273 00:17:34,759 --> 00:17:36,960 this one. We'll find out if all of a sudden 274 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:43,079 Paulty decides to go find another career. The vaccine debate 275 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,319 hasn't gone anywhere. It's still alive and well there are 276 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:53,359 people that are now. Doctor Marty McCarey was talking earlier 277 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:58,400 today about the fact that some vaccines are very worthy 278 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,440 and very good, but the whole list of childhood vaccines 279 00:18:02,519 --> 00:18:06,720 is what they're reviewing. Here's a little bit from doctor McCarey. 280 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 8: Look, vaccines save lives and any death from a vaccine 281 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,359 preventable illness is a tragedy, but at the same time 282 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,480 we need to tell people here vaccines are tried and 283 00:18:16,519 --> 00:18:20,559 true that are truly amazing, and if there's one where 284 00:18:20,599 --> 00:18:23,759 the evidence does not support giving it on the day 285 00:18:23,759 --> 00:18:26,440 of birth, like hepatitis B, and somebody wants to modify 286 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,880 it a little bit, we should listen to parents and 287 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,319 families and say, you know what, if you're going to 288 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,720 use the Japanese vaccine schedule or the German vaccine schedule, 289 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,799 you're not a fugitive. I wish that hearing would have 290 00:18:38,799 --> 00:18:41,759 been more productive. We're doing so much at healthing Human 291 00:18:41,799 --> 00:18:47,160 Services to address childhood chronic diseases, so much stuff, and 292 00:18:47,279 --> 00:18:49,680 instead they were focused on whether or not a twelve 293 00:18:49,759 --> 00:18:53,079 year old girl needs a seventh COVID booster. We're doing 294 00:18:53,079 --> 00:18:56,480 stuff with SNAP and rewriting the dietary guidelines and removing 295 00:18:56,519 --> 00:19:00,119 petroleum based food dies and talking about ultra processed food. 296 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,880 We're doing so much stuff, and I wish it had 297 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,039 been more collaborative. We're putting that decision back with a 298 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,079 doctor and the child, or the doctor and the patient. 299 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: That's really where it belongs. 300 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 8: The government is not your doctor now Look, we believe 301 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,359 in vaccines, and the new members of that ACIP committee 302 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:21,480 at at the CDC, these are solid scientific believers in vaccines. 303 00:19:21,559 --> 00:19:26,640 Martin Koldorf, one of Harvard's top vaccine epidemiologists. Coding meiseners 304 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,720 on the committee, a pediatric infectious diseases chief from Teft's 305 00:19:30,759 --> 00:19:34,440 Children's Hospital. So, look, there are vaccines that are tried 306 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,839 and true. But if we're going to ask, hey, can 307 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,279 the hepatitis be vaccine be modifile a little bit, that's 308 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,720 a question that America is asked personally. Don't believe that 309 00:19:42,799 --> 00:19:45,559 the evidence is solid to say the shot needs to 310 00:19:45,599 --> 00:19:48,680 be given at birth. It's a sexually transmitted infection you're 311 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,640 trying to prevent. Kids are not sexually active until they're 312 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,559 of sexual age. So a lot of parents say, I'm 313 00:19:54,559 --> 00:19:56,839 going to wait until they're ten or eleven or twelve. 314 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,519 And if the mom's HEPT be positive, that's different. But 315 00:19:59,559 --> 00:20:02,279 these are he wants issues now. It's a totally different 316 00:20:02,319 --> 00:20:05,079 issue from polio and measles and some of these other 317 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:06,799 shots that are tried and true and been around for 318 00:20:06,839 --> 00:20:10,240 a long time. You know, we believe in vaccines, but 319 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,160 does that mean people need the antrax vaccine. No, it 320 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,079 was a disaster. It was taken off the market. One 321 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,200 of the roadaviruses disaster taken off the market. We've got 322 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,160 tried and true vaccines, and we got vaccines like the 323 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,720 COVID booster and young healthy people that we can ask 324 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:24,599 questions about. 325 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 2: Maybe it's just me, but I think doctor Marty McCarey 326 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:34,480 is a much better communicator than RFK Jr. It's not 327 00:20:34,599 --> 00:20:38,400 as combative. He's informative. He explains things so that the 328 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:39,799 layman can understand it. 329 00:20:40,039 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: I like him. 330 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 2: The President was also asked about vaccines. Let's see what 331 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,480 he said. You have some vaccines that are so amazing. 332 00:20:49,039 --> 00:20:51,880 At the polio vaccine I happen to think is amazing. 333 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,039 A lot of people think that COVID is amazing. I 334 00:20:57,039 --> 00:20:58,759 think you have to be very careful. 335 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 7: When you say that some people don't have to be vaccinated. 336 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,680 Like you have vaccines at work. 337 00:21:03,799 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: They just pure and simple work. 338 00:21:06,039 --> 00:21:09,759 Speaker 2: So Jeff Mason over at Reuter's points out the differences 339 00:21:09,799 --> 00:21:12,039 between RFK Junior and the President. 340 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 6: So there's some distance between President Trump and his Health 341 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,319 and Human Service as secretary on this. But what's interesting 342 00:21:19,319 --> 00:21:22,799 politically and from a policy perspective is even though there's 343 00:21:22,839 --> 00:21:25,559 a little bit of distance there, and what one White 344 00:21:25,599 --> 00:21:28,920 House official told me was less passionate about the subject, 345 00:21:29,279 --> 00:21:32,880 he's not putting any guardrails around Kennedy. He's not stepping 346 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,200 in and saying, actually, this is not what I want. 347 00:21:35,279 --> 00:21:38,279 This is not the legacy that I want on health. 348 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,960 I remember asking a White House official last week for 349 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,720 a story I was working on, does he really even 350 00:21:43,799 --> 00:21:46,480 want this? I had no doubt that he wants to 351 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,519 kind of take a sledgehammer to the academia and to 352 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,119 the law firms and the media. Does he really want 353 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:57,480 that for health as well? And this person said, he's 354 00:21:57,559 --> 00:22:01,079 less passionate, but he trusts Kennedy. So there you go. 355 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,039 But it's clear from that particular quote he doesn't feel 356 00:22:04,039 --> 00:22:06,400 the same way about all vaccines that Kennedy seen. 357 00:22:06,599 --> 00:22:09,759 Speaker 2: So hopefully that is as clear as mud trying to 358 00:22:09,799 --> 00:22:12,480 figure out what they're going to do about vaccines. In 359 00:22:12,519 --> 00:22:16,160 any case, let's move on for now. More to come, 360 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:21,559 I'm sure, but the autopen is getting more and more attention. 361 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: There was. 362 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 2: The House Oversight Committee. James Comer's committee said his panel 363 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,200 is wrapping up the investigation into the use of the autopen, 364 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:36,359 But a new report has revealed some major concerns within 365 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:42,039 the former Biden administration itself. According to Axios, they say 366 00:22:42,079 --> 00:22:46,920 new records reveal the President Biden's own administration raised concerns 367 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:53,079 about autopen use to grant thousands of pardons. This is 368 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,799 historic scandal with massive repercussions, according to James Comer. He 369 00:22:58,839 --> 00:23:02,160 says that President Biden declined his age, carried out executive 370 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,480 actions without his approval, casting doubt on the legitimacy of 371 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:12,759 thousands of pardons and other executive actions. Who were the 372 00:23:12,799 --> 00:23:17,799 people that were playing president? Even President Trump wants to 373 00:23:17,799 --> 00:23:18,680 know that question. 374 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,599 Speaker 5: Well, I think the auto pendant is one of the 375 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,160 great scandals of our time. 376 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,319 Speaker 1: The Uto ben our was our president. 377 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,839 Speaker 5: Ought to put it in a different way, whoever operated 378 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,039 the auto ben was our president. 379 00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:34,039 Speaker 2: It's not allowed. 380 00:23:34,079 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 7: It's just not allowed. 381 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,559 Speaker 2: Remember, President Biden set a record for the number of pardons. 382 00:23:40,599 --> 00:23:45,240 It was four thousand, four hundred plus pardons. And there 383 00:23:45,279 --> 00:23:48,680 were emails they're finding now from people on the staff 384 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,519 to others on the staff asking about if President Biden 385 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,480 was even aware of some of the pardons that were 386 00:23:55,480 --> 00:24:00,680 being dished out. There's Andy McCarthy weighing in on this, well, I. 387 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,519 Speaker 9: Think it's a profound scandal. I think President Trump is 388 00:24:03,599 --> 00:24:06,000 right about that. And the reason I think that is 389 00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:10,400 when former President Biden undertook to come out and defend himself, 390 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,680 what he basically did was, to my mind, convict himself, 391 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,160 because what he said was they had these broad categories 392 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:22,039 of people who he might get grant clemency to where 393 00:24:22,079 --> 00:24:24,359 he was in on what the parameters would be, and 394 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,440 then he relied on underlings to fill in the names. 395 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,319 Speaker 7: Which is not the way presidents is supposed to grant pardons. 396 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,519 Speaker 9: I don't think it'll mean any of the pardons will 397 00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:37,319 be retracted, but it's obviously a profound scandal, and it 398 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,200 goes to the question of whether we should have the 399 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,680 pardon power in the first place. 400 00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:44,079 Speaker 2: Even Steve Scalise, who's the number two guy in the 401 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,599 House for the Republicans, doesn't like that. 402 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 10: Biden went on TV and defendant and said, don't worry, 403 00:24:50,039 --> 00:24:52,640 it was all these non violent offenders. It turned out 404 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,880 they found people who murdered people who were pardoned by 405 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,599 the auto pen. Biden didn't even know about that yet. 406 00:24:59,599 --> 00:25:02,759 Speaker 2: It was yeah, they told us, nobody was violent, and 407 00:25:02,839 --> 00:25:06,599 yet there were people that were pardoned that were convicted murderer. 408 00:25:06,759 --> 00:25:09,240 So I don't know what they're gonna do about trying 409 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,279 to put a lock around the auto pen, but it 410 00:25:12,319 --> 00:25:15,079 appears to be worse than anybody of what he thought. 411 00:25:15,079 --> 00:25:15,599 Speaker 1: It was. 412 00:25:17,799 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 2: Another criminal making a bad name for criminals. This guy. 413 00:25:22,799 --> 00:25:26,599 The crime happened in Charlotte. It was a month ago. 414 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,400 The video of it was just coming out, and that's 415 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,160 what's making it go viral today. There was a twenty 416 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,960 three year old young lady who was a Ukrainian refugee. 417 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,680 She came to this country for safety, to get away 418 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,519 from the war. She had a job in Charlotte, working 419 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,640 at a pizza parver and she got off work. It 420 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,480 was ten o'clock at night and they have a light 421 00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:53,400 rail system in Charlotte. She got on the light rail system, 422 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,759 sat down in her chair, and right behind her his 423 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,480 video of all of this. Right behind her was a 424 00:25:59,519 --> 00:26:02,920 guy with a white shirt and the hoodie, and he 425 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,960 started acting all nervous and he reaches down and you 426 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,079 can see he's pulling out a pocket knife that was 427 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,480 one of those that you unfold, and he just stood 428 00:26:13,559 --> 00:26:18,680 up and just attacked her. Stabbed her internet three times, 429 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,319 she died, she passed out within thirty seconds, and that 430 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,400 was it. So now you take a look at the 431 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,319 guy and what happened to him. He's been he's got 432 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:35,000 a rap sheet of at least fourteen serious crimes, and 433 00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:38,880 they just keep letting him out. Nothing happens to the guy. 434 00:26:40,319 --> 00:26:42,279 Like I said, this thing's gone viral. So you put 435 00:26:42,319 --> 00:26:49,079 in Google a Charlotte murder or Ukrainian refugee. Here's Ben 436 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:55,200 Dominich talking about the whole debate about crime, and it 437 00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:59,680 goes back to the crime in cities and President Trump 438 00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:03,880 trying to stop crime in Washington, DC, and now circling 439 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,599 back to the beginning of this episode of the podcast 440 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,480 about what they're going to do in Chicago, and some 441 00:27:09,559 --> 00:27:13,319 people on the left are trying to defend criminals and 442 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:18,039 crime by saying you can't arrest your way out of 443 00:27:18,079 --> 00:27:19,359 this criminal problem. 444 00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 11: Well, first off, I have to say that everything that 445 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,039 you hear when people say that you can't arrest your 446 00:27:25,079 --> 00:27:28,400 way out of these problems flies in the face of 447 00:27:28,599 --> 00:27:31,599 all the research that we have about the success, including 448 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,559 by the way in the past in New York City, 449 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,359 about the fact that what we see when we actually 450 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,680 start to arrest people for these crimes and have them 451 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,039 actually held for them, actually held to account for them, 452 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,240 as opposed to letting them go through these early release 453 00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:48,640 processes as played out in North Carolina where you had 454 00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:51,319 bail reduced all the way down to five hundred dollars 455 00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:55,079 in this instance, sadly resulting in this man being out 456 00:27:55,079 --> 00:27:58,200 on the street and doing this evil act. You can 457 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,400 actually arrest your way out of this problem. When it 458 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,960 comes to all of these different evidence that we have 459 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,480 that those level of crimes can lead to increasingly violent crimes. 460 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,400 We see this play out all across America. It's the 461 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,559 research that the Manhattan Institute in particular has done over 462 00:28:13,559 --> 00:28:15,759 the years, and so for anyone to make that claim, 463 00:28:15,799 --> 00:28:17,799 it flies in the face of the facts that we know. 464 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,519 And that's something that I think unfortunately for the Democratic Party, 465 00:28:21,559 --> 00:28:25,880 they've so rapped themselves for years in this ideology that 466 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,559 they're not going to be able to get out of 467 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,200 it overnight. And I think that it is only smarter, 468 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,279 more honest Democrats, including by the way, DC Mayor Muriel Bowser, 469 00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:36,720 who understand that they need all the help that they 470 00:28:36,759 --> 00:28:39,079 can get when it comes to getting cities safe again. 471 00:28:39,519 --> 00:28:42,720 Where was all this hesitancy when people jump to conclusions 472 00:28:42,759 --> 00:28:46,599 based on police footage without getting the full body cam images, 473 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,319 Like I didn't hear anybody complaining about that on the 474 00:28:49,359 --> 00:28:52,400 left or in the legacy media back during the Summer 475 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,319 of Love and everything around that, and so often when 476 00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:57,480 we dig into those cases, and that's the kind of 477 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,519 thing that I think just exposes the hypocrisy. This is 478 00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:04,039 not a situation where we should be complaining about knowing 479 00:29:04,079 --> 00:29:06,799 the truth, even if the truth is hard and something 480 00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:09,319 that we have to deal with in our communities. It's 481 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,000 just inconvenient for the left to have this treative out 482 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,000 there and have it provoked the kind of visceral response 483 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,480 that it does in any human being who sees this 484 00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:22,680 tragic video. I just think that this is a scenario 485 00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:25,920 where until the Democratic party in the left that is 486 00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:28,200 in control in so many of these cities comes to 487 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,200 grips with the fact that they need help. They need 488 00:29:31,359 --> 00:29:34,480 to put the people's interests first. They need to restore 489 00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:37,359 public safety, and they shouldn't be upset if that comes 490 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,480 from a Republican or a Democrat administration. They should be 491 00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:42,799 grateful for it. They should accept it and they should 492 00:29:42,839 --> 00:29:45,000 view it as a benefit to their people, which is 493 00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:47,960 what they ought to put first, as a priority, not 494 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,000 a political weapon. 495 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,559 Speaker 2: Just makes so much sense to me, so much sense. 496 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,720 Nobody's for crime, So why have the cities and the 497 00:29:55,759 --> 00:30:00,480 mayors not crack down on crime they could wanted to. 498 00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:03,400 They just have their priorities are they spend their money 499 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:08,240 on everything but police and the criminal justice system. Speaking 500 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:13,799 of that, today they started the jury selection in Florida. 501 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,680 This is the case of the guy who was laying 502 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,440 in wait to try to shoot Donald Trump on the 503 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,240 golf course. What's his name? Rouse is his name? And 504 00:30:23,839 --> 00:30:27,799 the jury selection began today. The latest I got is 505 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:35,319 Ryan Routh is his name that they have. Apparently they 506 00:30:35,319 --> 00:30:40,759 got four jurors selected today from twenty seven people. Twenty 507 00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:44,799 people were excused. But this is a guy who wants 508 00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:49,279 to represent himself, and they did the check to make 509 00:30:49,319 --> 00:30:51,960 sure that he was mentally okay. This guy's being charged 510 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:57,119 with attempting to murder a presidential candidate and he's just 511 00:30:57,319 --> 00:31:03,200 lost in his head. Andy McCarthy weighs in on this 512 00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:06,920 idea of him thinking that he can represent himself better 513 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:07,359 in court. 514 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 9: Well, it'll be an attempt to sow chaos. I'll have 515 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,680 to say attempt, because I would assume that if Routh 516 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,200 was not capable of forming coherent thoughts, he wouldn't be 517 00:31:20,839 --> 00:31:23,559 on trial, and they would have had a legal finding 518 00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:27,279 against his capacity to stand trial. You have a constitutional 519 00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:31,359 right to represent yourself, but it doesn't change the rules 520 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:36,000 of the trial. So he will try to make it chaotic, 521 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,359 make it incoherent, make it very hard to proceed. The 522 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,440 judge will have to try to keep that reined in 523 00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:47,079 while allowing him to represent themselves or himself, and the 524 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,519 Justice Department prosecutor is going to have to be very 525 00:31:49,559 --> 00:31:52,720 professional and just play it by the book. Can sanction 526 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:57,839 him if he operates outside the rules. But presumably his 527 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,599 capacity to stand trial is something that should have been 528 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,920 litigated before the trial because that would have been a 529 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,480 defense to a charge of attempted murder. So we're now 530 00:32:06,519 --> 00:32:09,519 at the point where the court has found that he's 531 00:32:09,559 --> 00:32:13,720 capable of standing trial, he's capable of representing himself. The 532 00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:16,519 lawyers are there to be consulted with and to do 533 00:32:16,599 --> 00:32:19,559 things like if he decides to testify in his own behalf, 534 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,000 they can put the questions to him as he directs, 535 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,559 but their role in the case is really consultation. It's 536 00:32:27,599 --> 00:32:29,319 not to actually defend him. 537 00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 11: As lawyers. 538 00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:35,039 Speaker 2: Well, he has his rights, so we wish him good luck, 539 00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:39,279 but I don't think he's going to get very far. Meantime, Monday, 540 00:32:39,319 --> 00:32:43,039 on Wall Street, let's see what happened today. The market 541 00:32:43,119 --> 00:32:46,119 was positive. The Dow was up one hundred and fourteen 542 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,000 to close a forty five five fourteen, the S and 543 00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:53,680 P up thirteen, the NASDAK up ninety eight to all 544 00:32:53,759 --> 00:32:57,079 green arrows there green arrows for gold up twenty four 545 00:32:57,119 --> 00:33:00,799 dollars to thirty six seventy seven, and oil went up 546 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,079 half a buck sixty two dollars and some change for 547 00:33:04,119 --> 00:33:07,319 a barrel of oil. Thank you for coming by today. 548 00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:09,920 We're going to be back here again tomorrow. I hope 549 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:25,400 to see you them