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Speaker 1: Hm, I walk street line, shackle change, Oh doesome gird

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it's calling my name. There is no mercy and it's

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been a tentery juice as the huge stream game Rango three.

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Speaker 2: I'm here be.

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Speaker 1: By Meda dies.

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Speaker 2: Inside these walls, inside the wild and when the girls as.

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Speaker 3: I'm hey everyone, and welcome back to Bloody Angola, a

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podcast one hundred and forty two years in the making,

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the complete story of America's bloodiest prison. I'm Jim Chapman,

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and today I am going to bring you back to

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the late summer in early fall of twenty seventeen, three

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random shootings in the parish, along with one just across

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the line in a rural area of East batman Bridge Parish,

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seem to all be the work of one individual. The

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four shootings resulted in the death of three men and

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a fourth man miraculously survived. Now, the simularities in these

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shootings were striking, to say the least. All were white men,

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middle aged and up, and all were shot in front

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of their homes. Eventually, Ryan Sharp would be arrested claiming

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he was hunting people collecting hunting tags for the federal

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government in a conspiracy involving the FBI, the US Navy,

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the Louisiana State Police, and even the richest man in

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America which I looked it up and in twenty seventeen,

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that was Bill Gates. So the road to his conviction

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would prove dawny as a trial, a conviction, and a

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retrial would all have to be played out before these

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families would get justice. And it all began on July

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eighth of twenty seventeen when Tommy Bass, who was sixty

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two years old, was found dead of a shotgun blast

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in the driveway leading out from his carport of his home.

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This was in rural East Feliciana Parish. This type of killing,

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it just didn't happen in East Feliciana Parish. When you

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saw homicide as a detective, it was usually tied to

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a domestic dispute or a dispute in general, where you

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had a suspect right off the bat. In this situation,

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there were a lot of things going against the investigation.

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For example, Tommy did not have any known enemies, He

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was very well known in the community and very well light.

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There was just no cause for the murder that police

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could find. Also, the sheriff, Jeff Travis. He was newly elected.

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This was his very first homicide since taking office nine

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months prior. But fortunately Sheriff Trive had some pretty damn

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good experience in these type of cases as it related

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to one of his deputies. That was Chief Deputy Greg Ferries.

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Greg was the former chief of police for the neighboring

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capital city of Baton Ridge, and he was the very

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first person that Sheriff Jeff Travis called to that scene.

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But unfortunately, there was just not a lot to go

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on with this shooting. Police knew that Bass was shot

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with a shotgun at close range, it just seemed completely random.

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So more than a month would pass before yet another

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seemingly random shooting would occur in East Feliciana Parrish when

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forty seven year old Buck Hornsby was shot twice while

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exercising on his property. This was around seven point fifteen

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in the morning, and this was on September twelfth of

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twenty seventeen. Now, this particular shooting occurred just one and

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a half miles from the murder of Tommy Bass. And

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before I go into Buck Hornsby's situation for that day,

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let me tell you a little bit about Buck because

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I met him. He's a guy you can look at

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and immediately say, this guy was an athlete in his

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younger days. Heck of a high school football player, a

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big guy, but not lineman, big, muscular, big, like a

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running back. He was just a very strong country boy.

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And he was also and still is very strong in

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his faith. And these would both play a key role

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in what's about to happen. So Buck wakes up and

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as was typical for Buck, he was going to go

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on a jog around his property, which on this particular

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day when he woke up, his ankle was kind of

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bothering him, and that would typically occur when the weather

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would start to change. Maybe it was an overcast day

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or something. And as we all know, you get a

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little bit older and the bones start creaking a little

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bit when you wake up, and sometimes they ache. And incidentally,

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at this time, Buck is forty, I believe. But as

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I said, his ankle was bothering him, and he almost

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considered not doing his daily run at all. However, being

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a guy who doesn't like to get out of a habit,

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he just kind of said, heck with it. I'll walk

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a little bit and I'll jog a little bit and

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then walk a little bit when my ankle would start hurting.

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a slower pace than what would be normal for Buck.

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It was that slower pace that would ultimately save his

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life here. So Buck takes off on his job and

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he rounds the corner of his property, which is situated

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right off the highway, and like most of us do,

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he had headphones on. He was just kind of zoning

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out on his jog slash walk right. The volume was

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just low enough, however, that he hears the sound of

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a vehicle seemingly pulling off the side of the highway.

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Buck turns to his right when he hears boom, shotgun blast,

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and Buck gets shot. He dives to his left and

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boom another shot, this one hits him in the back.

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out for thirty seconds to a minute, and he comes

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to realize a couple of things when he gets his

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bearings about him, and he immediately realizes that he's struggling

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to breathe, and his hearing was gone, and he noticed

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he was covered with blood. Now he was shot near

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a portable storage building that he had sitting near the

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edge of his property by the road, and it was

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fortunate that the building was even there. He was looking

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to sell the building, so he puts it up for

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sell by the highway so people would see it and

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if someone's interested, they know he's selling it. But he

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manages to roll underneath that storage building and it was

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sitting a little bit off the ground on wooden blocks

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or something. It was high enough sitting off the ground

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that he could kind of roll underneath it. And at

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that point he starts looking at although his sight was

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not great to say the least, one of the pellets

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had actually put his right eye out at this time.

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So obviously Buck is fueled by pure adrenaline and he

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goes into that survival mode and he makes his way

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to a nearby house, but no one was home, and

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somehow Buck manages to crawl nearly six hundred yards to

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reach his uncle Leon's home. So his uncle hears someone

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banging on the door and he goes to the door

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and he sees Buck, who's yelling, somebody shot me. Get

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me to the hospital, and that's exactly what they do.

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His uncle loads him up, they head to the hospital

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and when they get there. Buck gets taken back for

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X rays and it ain't good. He was riddled with

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shotgun pellets. Over fifty steel lodged after he had been

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hit with one hundred and forty pellets all over his body.

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To this very day, he still has some lodged in

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the pleurisy of his right lung, which means those pellets

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penetrated nearly four inches into his body. And an MRI

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at that point gets ordered, and that's due to the

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serious damage that was done to buck carteroid artery in

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his neck. And later on, Buck would recall that he

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requested the doctors not give him pain medication of any

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kind because he wanted to be able to tell his

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wife and kids that he loved them, and he wasn't

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sure he would be able to do that if they

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pumped him full of painkillers. The guy was a family

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man right now. After that MRI was completed, it was

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discovered that Buck came about a sixteenth of an inch

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from bleeding out on that property. That's how close those

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pellets came from penetrating that main artery. Now, being the

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son of a pastor and a godly man himself, Buck

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knew his survival was nothing thing short of a miracle

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and was God's grace. He was actually quoted as saying

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later on quote, sixty two feet that's how far the

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assailant was for me when he shot me. And had

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this person been just one sixteenth of an inch closer,

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I would not be here.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: Had I been in a constant jog in my ankle

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was not hurting, I would have been only about twenty

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feet from the road, and I would not be here.

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God had his hand on me, and folks, I can't

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argue with that at all. It is a blessing and

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a miracle that he is still alive. So by this

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point you have one person killed and another nearly killed

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just a mile and a half away in that rural parish.

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They were both white men, both middle aged and older,

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and both incidents involved a shotgun that they were just

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far enough apart. As far as the time frame, which

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was a little over a month, that it was probably

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long enough that police were not sure yet if these

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were related incidents or not. Now, pretty much the same

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as the murder of Tommy Bass, no motive was present.

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Bug didn't have any enemies that he knew of, or

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that anybody else knew of For that matter, there were

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no witnesses to this other than Buck, just not a

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lot to go on. Time passes, but not a lot

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of time. Just a week later, on September nineteenth of

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twenty seventeen, Carol Breeden, who was sixty six and also

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the commissioner of Brack which is the Baton Ridge Recreation

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District in Baton Ridge, Louisiana, he was shot and killed

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outside of his home while spring we killer. So according

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to his family, the day started out as a normal

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day September nineteenth, twenty seventeen, but it would eventually become

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anything but normal. He and his wife had just returned

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from a cruise, and as is typically done when you

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return from a vacation, there's a lot of work to do, right,

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you got closed a wash, you've got unpacking to do,

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and of course when you go on a cruise for

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a week or two weeks or whatever it was, you've

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probably got a lot of yard work to catch up on.

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And that was the case with the breeding. Now, mister

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Carroll Breeden, he just finished cutting the grass and he

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was in the process of spring the ditch with that

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weed killer, and Miss Breeden, she was inside. She had

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their two year old granddaughter with her, and she hears

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two loud pops. Now, initially she thought the lawnmower had backfired.

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That was her first inclination. However, she quickly remembered, wait

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a minute, he was not on the lawnmower. He had

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already cut the grass. He was supposed to be springing

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that ditch in the front of the house with weedkiller. Now,

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at this time, her twenty five year old grandson was

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also at the house. So she goes and she tells

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him something's not right. Something happened that she heard two

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loud bangs, And they all go out of that house

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together and they see Carol Breeden lying on the ground

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in that yard. He had been shot in the back

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with a rifle. Now, the place where mister Breden's body

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laid and where that pumps prayer was that he was

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using to kill those weeds, they were about twenty yards apart,

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and that likely meant that mister Breeden actually saw the

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shooter and ran a pretty decent distance of way before

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he got shot. This was the third shooting in the area,

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and a couple things would create some difficulty for investigators

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at this point in the investigation first mister Breeden, even

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though he was really really close to the parish line

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of East Feliciana, his property was located in East Baton

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Ridge Parish. So different investigators, right, completely different team working

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on this. Sometimes that can create some slight issues, although

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in this case these folks did work together. The investigators

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from East Feliciana actually contacted the investigators from East batnerg

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Parish and said, hey, we've had some incidents, some shootings

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and some front yards over here, and we would like

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to get involved to make sure these aren't related. Now,

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the second thing that was strange about this situation was

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mister Breeden was shot with a rifle, not a shotgun,

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which was used in the first two incidents. And that

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is super rare in instances like this, where the same

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person would completely change a murder weapon. You just did

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not see that happen. Usually it's the same weapon every time.

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Not unheard of, but rare. So even though these incidents

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occurred really close together, and when I say these incidents,

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I'm referring to buck Hornsby shooting and the shooting involving

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mister Breeden, there were still questions as to whether they

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were related. Or what seemed more likely at this point,

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considering the murder weapon change, maybe a copycat was out

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there somewhere. Police at this point just were not sure.

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Hopefully you're keeping up. At this point, you have Tommy

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that case was butck shot. Then you have Buck Hornsby,

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also shot with a shotgun, but the load used was

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not buckshot, it was a little lighter load. Then you

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have the killing of mister Breeden, who was shot with

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a rifle. Now what's most disturbing at this point is

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that all these men are very well respected, very good people.

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Everyone who knew these people just absolutely loved them. They

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were family men, they were fathers, they were husbands. It

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just didn't make any sense that any of them would

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get shot, much less killed. And the randomness of all

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of this made the investigation even more difficult. And that

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brings me to October ninth of twenty seventeen, which was

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just a couple of weeks after the murder of mister

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Carall Breeden. And I'm going to tell you about forty

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eight year old Brad di Franceski. So he was known

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as Ranger Brad, and he was a camp rager at

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Avondale Scout Reservation and just an amazing human being. This

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guy served in the Navy. He was very beloved by

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family and friends. Dedicated his life to scouting and teaching

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young boys how to be men right. And he lived

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at that camp, Avondale Scout Reservation in East Feliciana Parish,

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And on October ninth of twenty seventeen, he was taking

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care of lawnwork around that camp. Now, his wife was

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just inside the home with one of their children, which

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she homeschool, and she heard some loud pops and she

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initially thought the weed eater had blown up, so she

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runs outside immediately, so fast in fact, that she actually

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sees her husband fall as well as seeing a car

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speed away. And my heart just absolutely goes out to

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this woman for what she must have seen. Ranger Brad

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was shot at four times, with three shots hitting him,

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and a rifle was used in this case as well.

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Of course, investigators from everywhere flocked to Camp Avendale as

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well as EMT's medics, etc. But sadly, it was just

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too late to save Ranger Bread And it was at

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this point in the investigation that investigators knew these killings

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were related. Then just hours later, police in East Feliciana

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Parish they receive a call and it was a man

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on the other line and he was fully admitting to

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these shootings and he told them his name was Ryan Sharp.

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So that call ends and then police attempt to call

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Ryan back. There's no answer that time. However, Ryan Sharp

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calls the police back a second time and again identifies

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himself as the one they were looking for in these

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killings in shootings, and it was during these calls that

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Ryan Sharp claimed he was collecting hunting tags for the

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federal government. More on that later, but for now, it's

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important to mention that the police had not released to

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the public some things. They had gathered some information in

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this investigation that they were holding close to their chest,

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and this is common in all cases. There's some things

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you don't release to the public until you absolutely have to.

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And one of those things is that they had kind

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of a rough description of the car they were looking for,

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and it was a four door car, white in color,

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and they were able to gather this information by reviewing

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a bunch of surveillance video from businesses that were around

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the areas where these shootings took place, so they kind

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of had something to go off.

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Speaker 2: Of at this point.

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Speaker 3: So while some police were chasing down leads of cars

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matching that description, several other investigators actually headed out to

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the home of Ryan Sharp and they were able to

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track down his address from motor vehicle records. And incidentally,

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this is two days after the d Frienceskey killing, and

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several officers were involved in this, including Chief Deputy Greg Ferries,

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a lieutenant now John Johnson, who was the sergeant with

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East Baton Rodge Parry Sheriff's Office at that time. And incidentally,

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I have a connection to Lieutenant John Johnson. He and

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I were high school buddies. We did some hunting together.

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He used to pick me up for school every day

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and drive me to school. Actually, and I can tell

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you that when I found out he was involved in this,

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my ear actually parked up. So if you're listening, John Johnson.

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But getting back to these teams of detectives, they meet

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outside the gate that leads into to the property of

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Ryan Sharp, and they're kind of putting up a game

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plan together of exactly what everybody's gonna do when they

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go in there and when you know, as they are

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doing this. What pulls out of the driveway of Ryan

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Sharp's house but a four door white car. So the

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detectives they see this and they give chase to Ryan Sharp,

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and he actually eludes police for a bit, and you've

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got like a legit high speed chase going on at

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this time. Now, eventually Sharp ends up having a backtrack,

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which he does and he runs car to car with

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Chief Deputy Greg Ferries and some other police and everybody

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pulls over and Fairies is the first person out of

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the car. He draws his gun. He's issuing commands, you know,

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get out of the car. Get out of the car,

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firm commands. And it's important to note as of this

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point there's a rifle on the passenger seat of Sharp's

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car that Fairies can see. And according to Greg Fairies,

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he could tell that Sharp was thinking about it, if

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you will for a minute. And when when I say that,

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I mean he's considering grabbing that rifle. But eventually he

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figures there ain't no way he's gonna be able to

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get that shotgun. And it's at this point Greg Fairies

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cracks that door open, grabs him by the shirt to

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pull him out. Jim did you see what happened in

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Texas today. Wait before you tell me that, let me

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tell you what happened in New York. It cannot be

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as crazy as the case I told you about yesterday

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in Louisiana. You know what, we should do a podcast

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about it, and with that we did. Crime War Weekly

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covers the crime news headlines that have dominated the week.

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searching crime wi Weekly or clicking the link in the

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description of this podcast. Unfortunately, Sharp's shirt that he had

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on was a tank top. So what happens when Fairies

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grabs this shirt of this now known serial killer. He

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goes to pull him out of the car, and the

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freaking shirt slides right off of Ryan Sharp. So there's

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Greg Fairies with the tank top in his hand and

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no body behind it, which is kind of an O

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shit moment for everybody. However, fortunately other police were there

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and they were able to scoop up Sharp fairly quickly,

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and they place him under arrest, and this nightmare is

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finally over, right, they have this man in custody, and

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it's all good from a policing perspective in this case,

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at this point right now. Of course, you know it

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always gets crazy from me, and what everyone would discover

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was that in this case, this was just the beginning.

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So I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna play you

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the key points in the interrogation. And this is the

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actual recording of the interrogation of Ryan Sharp, and you're

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gonna hear the most bizarre story you have ever heard

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in your life. Likely it's a little bit lengthy. It's

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about forty five minutes in length, but you need to

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hear this to understand the story from here.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, my name is Phil Cox, say missmill Yeah,

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we're talking a little following and.

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Speaker 5: So now we're in we're safely she headquarters. How I

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didn't introduce this as Kevin Garrett. Uh, he's a detective

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with each flicicityam share flowers.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 4: So so as I said before you follow me yesterday

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morning listening and shouted you you were the uh son, uh,

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the person who killed the man on how it shoot

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you three mister different Chester, Yes, sir, and it wasn't

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you go shot.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, why did you shoot it?

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Speaker 6: When I fired into a big federal case and I

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was supposed to feel so many times every year, every

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so many years. Oh okay, I was given from permission

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to state police during these times, I finally used eaily force.

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Speaker 2: And by the navy.

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Speaker 7: Okay, Uh when did when did you get the permission?

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Speaker 6: I was on a phone call for two different you know,

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two different age us to state leaves.

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Speaker 2: Okay, uh the navy? What did you use to shoot

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the man? My rifle? What kind of right? Just an

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old salt rifle?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 2: What kind of old salt rock? Old three fifty three fifty? Oh?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Uh? So what what brand is you know? Now? No,

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it's old mm hmm, it's uh.

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Speaker 6: But it's three fifty Yeah, I was supposed to when

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when I feel it tag, I'm supposed to call and

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turn it in.

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Speaker 2: I'll pick the phone and call the sheriff for Oh

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so that's why you called me? Yes, okay, I got you.

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Uh uh? How many tags do you feel in the

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last six eight months?

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Speaker 6: I'm allowed to I'm allowed to shoot deer too through

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the wild wife in fisheries, and I got a deer

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down and they do qualify that as.

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Speaker 7: Too, so, but what about people?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's qualified as one get them.

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Speaker 8: But I mean how many how many of you tags

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you can filled on people?

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Speaker 2: And I got a couple more? Who were those? I

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can't tell you right this second.

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Speaker 7: Uh I thought we were buddies.

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Speaker 2: I don't have a long ducks on the road on them.

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Speaker 8: Uh why not you get the report them like you're

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supposed to or I'm supposed to the way all for

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us to do it?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Uh?

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Speaker 8: Uh? If I were to ask you about specific events,

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would you would you ask me truthfully?

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Speaker 2: Maybe?

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Speaker 9: All?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 6: Well I was supposed I was supposed to. All this

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goes back to this federal hotel. Okay, okay, Well, all

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these people are on this big federal case. And when

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I come on hooked, if I'm on hook h you know,

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they start putting more people in there.

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Speaker 2: This is agent in US, A big federal case. What

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kind of federal case? Just a big one.

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Speaker 7: You keep telling me what it's about.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's just different agencies and stay police time into it.

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Oh okay? And uh well in three fifty one rival years, Yeah,

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did you ever shoot anybody else with it? Uh? Find

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I pass? Okay, uh, and uh do.

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Speaker 7: You remember how long ago that might have been just

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a little while.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember I shooting people just for the fillow? Yeah?

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Where where was? Where was it at when you shut

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him and get the trick the other other? Right? You

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recall now, I don't wanna say right this saying okay, yeah,

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you're supposed to call a lot of tags in one

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at a time. Okay, I'm not from but if you ever.

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Speaker 6: Tell you right now, I'm supposed to provide horses where

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they call people or the horses that go out hotel.

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If I tell you right now, I'm gonna lease two horses.

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I don't know if you tie up. You familiar with

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this case?

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Speaker 2: So now.

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Speaker 10: When you know he wor a safe police you know

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that right he might he might?

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Speaker 2: Uh did you ever every time you you fell a tag,

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you've called it in? I have two? Or don't?

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Speaker 7: Don't you don't get credit past?

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Speaker 2: All right? When when was the last time of you

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you shot you phil a tag? Know it's been a

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little while, two three months? So okay? Uh?

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Speaker 5: The uh?

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Speaker 7: Well you know I mean we we're talking. M sure

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you you be at forthcoming.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going on from you. I know I'm on that.

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I'm not.

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Speaker 7: I'm just curious about about.

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Speaker 6: The uh uh you know, I mean you put a

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tea like this, you want let me ask, let me

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tell you something.

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Speaker 2: Sure not to cut you off.

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Speaker 6: If you would have picked me up today in two

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or three days, you were known about the rest of

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the tags.

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Speaker 2: I can't call in the tag.

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Speaker 6: I got away twenty out, twenty out, twenty four hours

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for plus to call in another tag.

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Speaker 2: So I reported. I did report myself to the Sheriff's

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bar m to call on a tag.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I took I took off.

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Speaker 6: And you know if I if I wouldn't, wouldn't have

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got picked up today. Two to three days from now,

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all my tags were being filled.

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Speaker 7: But you've already fiel some tags.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: What you said, you've already filed your tags. Yeah, so

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did you call those in now?

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Speaker 2: So why don't you let me know about them now

481
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,519
so I can put them down on you get credit

482
00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:29,839
for him. Then I don't get my horses out of

483
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,759
the deal. Yeah you do, I do.

484
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,839
Speaker 7: I told you I weren't with state. Please, that's a

485
00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:34,319
part of the deal.

486
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: Wasn't me down for two more? All right?

487
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,799
Speaker 6: And if I have right now, I'm supposed to be

488
00:29:39,839 --> 00:29:44,279
on a bureau right now, Okay, I don't use those

489
00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:45,880
three letters. They don't like to use them.

490
00:29:46,079 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know you. Okay. Yeah.

491
00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 6: Now I got two more, and once I get five tags,

492
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,000
it's supposed to be hooked.

493
00:29:54,079 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: Now.

494
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,759
Speaker 6: The bureau allowed me up to twelve. She gave me

495
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,640
four years, okay to fill them. But if I got

496
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,519
if I got five quick, they put it.

497
00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:04,519
Speaker 2: You know, he would lock it in.

498
00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:07,359
Speaker 6: I mean now, I didn't say it was one hundred

499
00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:10,480
percent hue, but it would be locked in.

500
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,279
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I want to get you credit for

501
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,960
him was uh what's the other two? I'll take the

502
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:16,079
other two? All right?

503
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 7: What's the first one?

504
00:30:17,079 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 2: Bass falls?

505
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,759
Speaker 6: And another fella uh on Pride on Pride Road, Yes, sir,

506
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:26,160
all right, I sir?

507
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,519
Speaker 2: What about that? What about the one on uh on

508
00:30:31,079 --> 00:30:33,079
nine fifty nine down there horns be?

509
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,319
Speaker 7: You got shot a bird shot?

510
00:30:34,519 --> 00:30:37,759
Speaker 2: I don't know buck? Did you shoot him? Now? And shit?

511
00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:41,559
You just want you ain't gonna kill buck? Hunted with

512
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,319
buck with fine shot? Yeah? I didn't. I don't know

513
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,559
who I was shot around Pride yesterday. I don't know

514
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,720
what that was about that wouldn't nothing to do with me.

515
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, well you told me that day on the phone

516
00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:55,000
when you called him. Did you said that was bullshit

517
00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:56,000
that you weren't involved in?

518
00:30:56,079 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: Now now? I mean yeah, far than neardy. Yeah, well, at.

519
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 7: Least you didn't try to take credit for somebody else

520
00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:03,119
you'd work.

521
00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, ask you about Tommy pass?

522
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:07,880
What about it? Uh?

523
00:31:08,079 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 7: How'd you how'd you do it? How'd you had you

524
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:11,920
feel tagged with him?

525
00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:12,359
Speaker 8: You?

526
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: I haven't called it in yet?

527
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 7: Well, no, but I'm giving.

528
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna You're gonna get credit for it because I

529
00:31:20,319 --> 00:31:23,240
got it written down. Okay, how do I feel it? Yeah?

530
00:31:23,319 --> 00:31:24,359
What's your mean for it?

531
00:31:24,839 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 7: I mean, how'd you go about slipping up on it?

532
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: Or whatever? I think I kind of have a little

533
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,440
work with It's a AGAs. I'm not sure. I rode

534
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,519
around nervous and I'll pull in there shot in hass Godwin?

535
00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:41,880
How far away were you? Pirten? Close?

536
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:42,799
Speaker 7: Pretty close?

537
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,559
Speaker 2: And what did you use? Shot?

538
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:45,799
Speaker 5: You know?

539
00:31:46,079 --> 00:31:49,119
Speaker 2: Shot? What what was lovely with? You know? Buck shop?

540
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:55,640
What brand you know that? I don't know. I don't

541
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,119
have a good book shot sure? And then uh, what

542
00:31:59,359 --> 00:32:02,039
what do you do afterwards you just left. Oh yeah,

543
00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:05,200
I got out there. Where'd you go? I mean to loot?

544
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:07,680
Just went back home? All right?

545
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 7: And then, uh what about in pride?

546
00:32:12,079 --> 00:32:15,519
Speaker 8: I made the loop, went back down towards plank road,

547
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,400
back down toward But no, I mean, I meant, how

548
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,400
did you feel that time?

549
00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:26,119
Speaker 2: I haven't called it in yet, I know, but God

550
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,519
got it written Down'm gonna give you credit for how

551
00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:32,279
did I feel it? Yeah? What a rifle? Yeah?

552
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:34,759
Speaker 7: You just what you riding along?

553
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,119
Speaker 2: Oh yes, sir and seeing him out there?

554
00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:43,559
Speaker 6: Okay, but to the best of my knowledge, I don't

555
00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:45,519
know if you think knowing him aout the second lifetime

556
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:46,720
the next lifetime.

557
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: Well, to the best of my knowledge, all these people, right,

558
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,839
I don't I don't know about it because i'd been

559
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:54,799
there so well, you know.

560
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 6: But uh, let me ask you this, and I should

561
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,720
that that should be three. I shot a deer on

562
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,839
nine sixty on Homerosi's place. Now, I was supposed to

563
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,559
get qualified for two tags. You get two for deer, right,

564
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,759
That's what I'm supposed to get. Okay, I'll get it

565
00:33:10,839 --> 00:33:11,880
two furth here.

566
00:33:12,079 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 5: I'm gonna put down arms benow. But deer on nine

567
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:22,119
sixty yeah, we get that times two now, so we're

568
00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:25,440
gonna get credit for everything. The man on sixty three

569
00:33:25,559 --> 00:33:26,519
by the boss Scout.

570
00:33:26,359 --> 00:33:27,599
Speaker 2: Camp Helson.

571
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,759
Speaker 7: You were when you were coming down.

572
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:37,319
Speaker 2: The road, I mean, how did you find him? Okay? Truth?

573
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:40,519
Speaker 6: I had three on that roade, one close to bauck

574
00:33:40,559 --> 00:33:45,720
Holmes's house. It was African American teuh man h the

575
00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:50,000
telephone company. I wasn't gonna dare to shoot African American. Well,

576
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,480
we got no table right now with mis Mary Harris

577
00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:57,960
with her aged sick, and UH. I went down further

578
00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:02,319
between Nissan and Ahead head started school. They had another

579
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,119
guy there, but I was almost positive he's a cop.

580
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,360
He was cutting grass. I think I shot him years ago.

581
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,519
I think he was in the next lifetime. So I

582
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:14,239
passed him up, and well, if Austic had a old

583
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,679
man out there first, I think he's a vet. I

584
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,079
passed him up and then had another guy to cutting grass,

585
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:20,920
and I think he was a backer cop.

586
00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 2: I think I let him go, and I find I

587
00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:25,000
went down there and picked the guy on him. He

588
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:29,320
was I was running out of town nor onally.

589
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,039
Speaker 6: What happens when I run out down on these tags,

590
00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:34,480
they start picking people up close to him. I'm pretty

591
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,280
should have had one of my buddies already picked up.

592
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:38,840
I think state police had.

593
00:34:39,079 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: I'm not, you know, I don't.

594
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,079
Speaker 8: Did you go with the man on shoot the tree?

595
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,119
He went, pasted him and passed him up two or

596
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:46,760
three times?

597
00:34:47,079 --> 00:34:52,199
Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah? Did you have anybody with you on anyone anything? Yeah?

598
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,920
I don't. I don't. I don't fill anybody in this

599
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,039
count Tennis. So how did you get that long gun

600
00:34:57,119 --> 00:34:58,280
out the window while you're driving?

601
00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 3: Rolled?

602
00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 2: Running down? Start shooting?

603
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 7: Did you you kept rolling or down?

604
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm still moving pretty good shooting. I've shot out

605
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,280
helicopters before.

606
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,159
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, you used to really booting.

607
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 2: In there, don't you? And it ain't the easiest thing

608
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:21,119
to do. So uh So nobody else gets any credit? No,

609
00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:21,880
I don't.

610
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 6: I don't put nobody. I don't even discuss this business

611
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,880
with anybody. Uh I was locked n the colonel, but

612
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,480
that was a new colonel. Now I'm probably not gonna

613
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,079
get locked on him again. I told I one told

614
00:35:36,119 --> 00:35:38,119
you other letting stake please to get me out of here,

615
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,119
or either the Bureau or any agency. Only people I'm

616
00:35:42,119 --> 00:35:46,119
getting me out of still the military, that's who you

617
00:35:46,199 --> 00:35:47,880
been dealing with pretty much.

618
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: I was under years ago.

619
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 6: Uh, I kind of just I didn't show back up

620
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,760
while he's to other special forces.

621
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: Uh.

622
00:35:57,199 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 6: One time I was, Uh, I couldn't. I probably dirty,

623
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:02,519
been passing drug. Yes, I knew I'd be in the

624
00:36:02,559 --> 00:36:05,880
brig six months. I didn't show up, and I did.

625
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,199
Speaker 9: I kind of ship mom serve with him. So you

626
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,199
now I'm trying to get back in with him, to

627
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,480
get back. You know, been back in Good Grace's room.

628
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,480
You were in the search, I guess not legally. We

629
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:20,719
were call it secret service.

630
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,679
Speaker 10: You use the same vehicle when you feel them, or

631
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:23,800
you use different ones.

632
00:36:24,039 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 2: I used the truck on the first one in my

633
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,119
old lady's car and the rest of them.

634
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:28,559
Speaker 10: What kind of truck does she have?

635
00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: Because she just got that little white car. She didn't

636
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,519
have nothing to do with it. She was sleeping through

637
00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:33,880
all of it.

638
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,199
Speaker 10: You what kind of truck do you have?

639
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 2: My little Nissan to pick up? Okay? Orange?

640
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 10: Is it Orange?

641
00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:40,079
Speaker 7: Or town?

642
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: Or town? Looking?

643
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:41,679
Speaker 11: Okay?

644
00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 6: Everybody everybody in town and notice me, I was supposed

645
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,400
to feel these tags I ever saw often. What I'm

646
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,320
trying to do right now is get back with the

647
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,960
military and when it's time to feel these tags because

648
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,559
I'm un hooked.

649
00:36:55,559 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: I call on hooked every four years. Feel these tags.

650
00:36:58,039 --> 00:36:59,559
I get hooked. If I get to go back with

651
00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:01,679
the military, I go to ten of my business over there.

652
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 6: I don't have to ride around my hometown and shoot anybody.

653
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,119
Right ten of my business over there. Whatever happens over there,

654
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,880
I come back. Nobody knows nothing. That's what I'm trying

655
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:13,440
to get back to.

656
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 10: Did you know any of these guys that you feel

657
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:17,719
the tags?

658
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:18,079
Speaker 7: That you know?

659
00:37:18,199 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 10: Anybody you ever ever shot it? You didn't want knew

660
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,199
a basketball, you knew him.

661
00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 2: It was buttered on for him to go.

662
00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 7: Okay, look at bureau.

663
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,079
Speaker 6: When we do the phone costs is the bureau. It's

664
00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:36,599
another thing to say it's it's the richest man in

665
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:37,519
the country.

666
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:42,519
Speaker 2: It's uh, Special Forces, State Police is a ton of.

667
00:37:42,519 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 6: People on the phone. I don't ask him to call out.

668
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,920
I just get a surprise call bad where it is

669
00:37:48,159 --> 00:37:48,440
got you.

670
00:37:48,639 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 8: Everybody's listening and they and they voted to bash needed

671
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:52,960
to go.

672
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,119
Speaker 6: Dal bath in these cases right here, in these big

673
00:37:56,199 --> 00:37:57,960
federal cases, a lot of time, they don't want you

674
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,960
to kill a bad guy. They want you to kill

675
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:03,400
a good one. It's hard to believe Dale Bass was

676
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,440
the one they wanted. He's a good guy and he's got.

677
00:38:05,519 --> 00:38:10,639
Speaker 2: Nothing wrong in his life. His brother, my cousin or whatever.

678
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,800
Kelly Bass, he's always been in out of trouble. He

679
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,960
probably should have been on it too. Uh. Two girls

680
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,000
from state police were stuck up for him, so that

681
00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:20,880
time it was left.

682
00:38:22,159 --> 00:38:24,559
Speaker 10: Have there ever been any more tags that that that?

683
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:27,639
Uh you feel not like I'm new to all this.

684
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,639
Speaker 2: Uh this is all raca. Uh nothing in the past

685
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,559
that slipt by the wait.

686
00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:38,679
Speaker 6: We used to have this years ago before it was

687
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,920
just state police, not agents tied into it. They used

688
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,199
to pick me up and we used to go to

689
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,440
the federal hotel and.

690
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 2: We pulled prisoners out. I'm telling my tags with prisoners.

691
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 10: Is this the first non prisoners?

692
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 2: No? No man?

693
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,039
Speaker 6: Once the agent's tied and as this has been the

694
00:38:55,119 --> 00:39:00,679
wrong vivious, this is a daily case cop coming. I mean,

695
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,559
that's a serious But I'm trying to get right out

696
00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:06,840
of there right now. In that hotel, some of my

697
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,400
family members are there, been in there a while.

698
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 8: Uh.

699
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,119
Speaker 6: We got two families tied in Special forces in there.

700
00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:17,760
When I'm trying to get special forces.

701
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 11: Back on the.

702
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:20,039
Speaker 2: Uh.

703
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 6: We also have a lampscope from the Marines in there. Ah,

704
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,519
this is one that uh, I was engaged to a

705
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:31,639
little girl about a year ago.

706
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: Her daddy is in the Bureau, and uh this is

707
00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:38,079
his grandson. Man.

708
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,519
Speaker 6: So uh this this hotel was? It was all right,

709
00:39:43,559 --> 00:39:46,000
I guess you know nothing great about a federal president.

710
00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 2: But uh at they turned me in. Aht F I stick.

711
00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 6: What's happening on about straw one Bureau, one HC State place? Well,

712
00:39:58,679 --> 00:40:00,880
I guess once after my I can start get tied

713
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:01,800
into it and I can't go home.

714
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 2: Over one lady I didn't work with her, so she

715
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,639
went to show me who was the boss. She went

716
00:40:05,679 --> 00:40:07,320
and got on her inmates. I ain't going and she

717
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:08,360
stuck them in a hotel.

718
00:40:10,519 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 6: All the white men in the hotel have one leg

719
00:40:12,519 --> 00:40:16,159
missing in their pencils. All the black men still upstairs

720
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,119
don't what they want to do. Were basically buy slaves.

721
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 2: In that well.

722
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:23,079
Speaker 10: I mean.

723
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:26,519
Speaker 7: I got you down and getting your credit. You don't

724
00:40:26,559 --> 00:40:27,119
care right now?

725
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: You I mean I'm comfortably you need.

726
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 11: Water now, I'm good, but you eat it all right?

727
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,800
Didn't put the way better than that heart bend man. Yeah,

728
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,960
well everybody treated you, okay, I ain't nobody bothered you. Hey,

729
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,480
I told you on the phone when I crossed.

730
00:40:41,199 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: The past the tail, I ain't gonna give you no trouble.

731
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,199
When they pulled me over, I stopped out of the vehicle. Yes, sir, enough, sir,

732
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,440
I wan't work because that's exactly what you're talking. I'm

733
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:52,480
I'm gonna give you no trouble.

734
00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 7: Said you want gonna give the police truck?

735
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,679
Speaker 2: They won't do no good? It too well? Why did

736
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,440
you want to let's send the military?

737
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 7: Huh a saist something? I want the military to come

738
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:02,239
get you.

739
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: I was supposed to ask for the military to get

740
00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:05,800
vick on Nathan.

741
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,119
Speaker 7: Oh, okay, I got you.

742
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:08,159
Speaker 2: I got you.

743
00:41:08,679 --> 00:41:12,079
Speaker 8: So now that we picked you up, you you need

744
00:41:12,159 --> 00:41:14,639
to talk to the military. What you're saying, I'm asking

745
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,239
for the navy first, Nathan?

746
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:16,679
Speaker 2: Okay?

747
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 10: What today you said you when they got behind you,

748
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:23,880
did you did you know that.

749
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,079
Speaker 2: Was a police in rain or what? I had a

750
00:41:26,159 --> 00:41:28,400
feeling but there wasn't a cop cars. They flying that

751
00:41:28,559 --> 00:41:31,719
drone all around my house. How'd you know that?

752
00:41:32,159 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 5: Man?

753
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,119
Speaker 2: I used to help somebody couse Mica in the day.

754
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,559
Were you in the house, Yeah, I was underneath it.

755
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,039
I was out there hollering at it. Y'all get the

756
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:44,639
hell out of here. I thought it was the Bandidos

757
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,400
is what I thought it was, because they had one

758
00:41:46,559 --> 00:41:48,400
years ago. I shot it down and I got they got.

759
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,239
Let's talk about man m.

760
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 10: And then when when you got stopped and they and

761
00:41:57,519 --> 00:41:59,800
they got you whatever you had that you had a

762
00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:01,840
rifle in the vehicle with you? Then was you going

763
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,800
to fill a tag when when they stopped.

764
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,599
Speaker 2: You, I'm gonna getting ready to your cat for my trucks.

765
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 10: Did you just keep your rifle in there at all times?

766
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,599
Speaker 6: Or you was going to the opportunity when my tags

767
00:42:11,639 --> 00:42:13,960
are not failed, I'll list points.

768
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,119
Speaker 2: If I leave the house with out of gun, I

769
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:16,519
got you.

770
00:42:18,639 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 6: Even if I take a old bitchy piece of shotgun

771
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,920
and throw the Nastcabra truck, I still got a.

772
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: Gun, right, so you don't. You don't get any druggies. Now.

773
00:42:26,039 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 6: If I'm going to my hunting ladies, wildie offishers don't

774
00:42:28,519 --> 00:42:30,079
want me riding around with it on the seat.

775
00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:32,559
Speaker 2: Let's talk. They want to put it in nastcaber truck.

776
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,679
When you get back on the road. Didn't you know

777
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:36,559
you put it on them?

778
00:42:37,559 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 7: Where's your hunting lace?

779
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 2: Donamond? Sat someone over there Livingston. They ain't watch to

780
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,880
brag about. But somewhere still to go. I just run

781
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,199
round the dollars. I'll tell you what.

782
00:42:48,519 --> 00:42:50,079
Speaker 7: We'll let you ship here for a minute if you

783
00:42:50,159 --> 00:42:50,599
get out.

784
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: I want going Kevin.

785
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 7: I gonna talk a.

786
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,079
Speaker 8: Minute down Shoe if you need to cut him, if

787
00:42:55,159 --> 00:42:58,039
we think any more questions going, Yes, sir, all right,

788
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,480
sure anything now, I'm would y'all take your time go

789
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:03,519
on right to go on, man, I'm a little teddy more.

790
00:43:03,559 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: Are you doing that shop please? Nature like some chew

791
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,880
lieutenants from Jerry's office Unity Bay in this parish.

792
00:43:11,159 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 8: Yes, Uh, I wanna take you back so we'll be

793
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:22,119
sure we get all this right. Tommy pass Okay, he

794
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,400
was murdered back in.

795
00:43:26,119 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: Uh June something like that. I don't know exactly. I

796
00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:32,079
mean even you.

797
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:36,679
Speaker 7: Feel tagged when July or whatever? Uh do you remember

798
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:37,719
anything about that day?

799
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:38,639
Speaker 2: About the weather?

800
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:46,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, right right in uh June here and you you

801
00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:48,400
said you went there in your pickup truck.

802
00:43:49,079 --> 00:43:53,639
Speaker 8: Yes, casually you pulled up in there and Tommy driveway,

803
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,320
you said, and What did you see when you pulled

804
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:56,760
up there?

805
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,519
Speaker 6: When it just outside pulling with his truck? He was

806
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,880
we look like he was working on his truck, moving

807
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,000
stuff around. How did this truck look come in?

808
00:44:08,199 --> 00:44:09,119
Speaker 2: Wasn't you know anything?

809
00:44:09,639 --> 00:44:10,559
Speaker 7: Don't see anything about it?

810
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,119
Speaker 2: Shot ing that take off four whel drive? Was it

811
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,639
jacked up or into four drive? Kind of kind of top?

812
00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:19,199
Speaker 5: No?

813
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 2: I mean like it? Oh no, no, no, no, even

814
00:44:22,599 --> 00:44:25,800
like road Worth. I mean he had the hood like I.

815
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,719
I didn't pull out. Was it was it edgy runner?

816
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,639
Speaker 7: He just run listen all right?

817
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,079
Speaker 2: And so then what you did? I mean, did he

818
00:44:34,199 --> 00:44:34,440
know you?

819
00:44:35,039 --> 00:44:35,079
Speaker 5: No?

820
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 8: Y am?

821
00:44:36,519 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: Did?

822
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,519
Speaker 7: What do you say when you can't walk it up?

823
00:44:39,559 --> 00:44:39,679
Speaker 8: Uh?

824
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 6: First apart to tennis driveway, I was having a sight

825
00:44:43,079 --> 00:44:44,840
dots about it. I said, not other than I want

826
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,760
to do it? Mm and uh finally I backed up

827
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,800
in there. I just told hiant need some are retire.

828
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:54,519
Speaker 2: He just he him know the lady okay. When I

829
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,519
let him walk off from the cold, I shout him.

830
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,280
So he stayed near your truck and went back into

831
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,199
your truck and right got you down.

832
00:45:01,559 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 6: He was walking back to his he walked he turning there.

833
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,679
He probably walked twenty steps they walked coming around and

834
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:09,159
shot him.

835
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,559
Speaker 2: Yeah you didn't you shot him? He standing up? Tell yeah,

836
00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:17,880
what happened? He dropped? It was it was killed shodow?

837
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 7: How how was he when he when he hit the.

838
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,039
Speaker 2: Ground where I didn't stare? I didn't when he hit

839
00:45:23,079 --> 00:45:25,199
the ground, you didn't, So you don't know.

840
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 6: I don't know what kind of pattern he got frost palace,

841
00:45:28,519 --> 00:45:33,440
but I would imagine the majority of the shot got him.

842
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:38,239
Did he he collapsed? Then he collapsed? We was he

843
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,840
like kind of down on his knees or something? Wow,

844
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,119
he dropped When he dropped, I got out of that.

845
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:45,639
Speaker 2: He fell back? What he feeling?

846
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 8: Uh?

847
00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:50,159
Speaker 2: I don't think he was probably in the middle of

848
00:45:50,199 --> 00:45:53,199
falling when I was in the middle of laga was

849
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:54,280
uh what would he work?

850
00:45:54,559 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 10: You know?

851
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,599
Speaker 2: I said a T shirt. I always had suspenders on.

852
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,239
You have a ball cap on? You think.

853
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,559
Speaker 8: I think he may have h You said it was raining.

854
00:46:08,679 --> 00:46:10,920
Was it raining when you were at his house? Or

855
00:46:11,039 --> 00:46:11,920
just sh it rained before?

856
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: After? It was in between stone but it was just

857
00:46:14,559 --> 00:46:15,719
dress on life open him?

858
00:46:17,079 --> 00:46:18,559
Speaker 7: Did you see anybody else around there?

859
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 2: And just you just.

860
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 7: All right?

861
00:46:23,559 --> 00:46:23,639
Speaker 2: Well?

862
00:46:23,679 --> 00:46:26,639
Speaker 6: I let him pass twice that day I seen him

863
00:46:26,679 --> 00:46:31,960
one time by the gravel pit. Its kind of whim deal.

864
00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:33,679
Was he I was looking for something else?

865
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 2: I guess the.

866
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 7: Gravel pit up by powers.

867
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, he walked OUTND I seen him then I could

868
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,920
have shot him fire six times a day.

869
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 2: Was he walking or he was in his beating for

870
00:46:43,159 --> 00:46:46,519
na he was standing up with He's standing around when well,

871
00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:48,960
we're all the seame. I'm pretty familiar with that area.

872
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,599
Just I went down the Graive road by where his

873
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:52,079
bit is.

874
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,679
Speaker 7: Okay, Yeah, what it did end?

875
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 2: Well, I see him going in there, and then I

876
00:46:56,599 --> 00:46:58,320
went down down there and see him coming out.

877
00:47:00,159 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 7: Did you did you go have power store or that day?

878
00:47:04,199 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

879
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 7: That's now flood gates Not okay, because you know, I

880
00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:13,880
know Tommy used to hang out both of the places.

881
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, every morning talking love to talk.

882
00:47:17,039 --> 00:47:19,079
Speaker 7: I didn't know if you went in there after him.

883
00:47:20,199 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: I was in the store after not not to build

884
00:47:22,519 --> 00:47:24,800
a tag distri. Oh have I talked to him in

885
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,480
the store? You've been talking to in the store for

886
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,840
the past ten years? Okay, he's normally therefore they open

887
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,360
in the morning. What was the last time you you

888
00:47:33,519 --> 00:47:34,679
talked to him prior to that?

889
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,119
Speaker 6: Who I mean maybe seeing him at the store and

890
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,280
they e's going, or see him at the auto parture so.

891
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,199
Speaker 2: Far from visiting, and I ain't never I never hung

892
00:47:46,199 --> 00:47:49,480
anything like that. Did you see him at the auto

893
00:47:49,559 --> 00:47:50,159
course that day?

894
00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 8: No, it's happened in the morning. Oh okay, well, uh

895
00:47:58,159 --> 00:48:02,440
earlier you telling me on the the guy sixty three?

896
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

897
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,639
Speaker 8: Uh different, chesty? Yeah you should. You had passed by

898
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:08,920
him several times that day.

899
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 2: I passed by the several time in the last couple

900
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:16,840
of months. Okay, so you've been you knew he was

901
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:22,119
out there fairly often or whatever? I was the fighting.

902
00:48:22,159 --> 00:48:24,119
They wanted me to shoot a woman? Tell the truth?

903
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:29,800
How come? Because it's just one of them traps.

904
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,159
Speaker 7: I think they didn't, Uh right?

905
00:48:33,039 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 2: I told him fly it on the phone.

906
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 6: I ain't shooting an African American. Let's go cause some problem.

907
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,440
And I ain't gonna kill the one, that's all. I

908
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,960
don't be a white many.

909
00:48:43,039 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: How I did shoot a deer.

910
00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, it would have been nice if I had a

911
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,599
bunch of year and I heard, I could have shot

912
00:48:48,679 --> 00:48:51,400
him off and filled all attacks.

913
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:53,079
Speaker 2: So uh.

914
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 1: You uh.

915
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:58,559
Speaker 2: Mad?

916
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 8: On sixty three that day, the day field attack, you

917
00:49:04,559 --> 00:49:07,440
went behind and turned around and came back and were

918
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:08,559
shooting while you.

919
00:49:08,599 --> 00:49:09,679
Speaker 7: Were headed back to home.

920
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 2: Did I shot on the way back home? Yeah?

921
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 8: You?

922
00:49:13,559 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 2: So where did you turn around? About three or four

923
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,199
driveways past him? Do you remember? Uh?

924
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:21,599
Speaker 6: Uh?

925
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,519
Speaker 8: Do you remember any other cars around what you were

926
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,960
out there? No, that's that's another fact too. I tried

927
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,360
to shoud have no cars coming.

928
00:49:33,159 --> 00:49:36,599
Speaker 2: I mean, do you remember any like when you're going

929
00:49:36,679 --> 00:49:39,960
down the road going there? Oh? There cars up and

930
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:40,800
down the road all day.

931
00:49:41,559 --> 00:49:43,599
Speaker 6: So you just make sure it's if I said two

932
00:49:43,679 --> 00:49:46,119
cars going away behind me, I just pulled over away.

933
00:49:46,599 --> 00:49:50,599
Speaker 2: Not the cars passed on that evening at on sixty three?

934
00:49:51,199 --> 00:49:55,000
What vehicle you in? I was in love lace car, honestly?

935
00:49:55,079 --> 00:49:57,719
Which one is that? A little white niece saw white

936
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,800
kness high? Alright? And uh.

937
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:05,639
Speaker 7: How many times did you shoot?

938
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,159
Speaker 2: I'll say three or four? Think I missed him in

939
00:50:08,159 --> 00:50:15,199
the first shot three or four down, I was still rolling.

940
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 6: I was probably still going fifteen miles up, So you was,

941
00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:19,199
you was still mobile when you followed.

942
00:50:19,199 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 2: It was still roller when you shoot.

943
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,559
Speaker 12: Okay, cause my pritle was a little different from the

944
00:50:26,639 --> 00:50:29,599
hang out. I guess how were you How did you

945
00:50:29,679 --> 00:50:31,519
position the wheel? He was holding him what you need

946
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:32,679
or I would.

947
00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 2: Full on the brake, slow him down and that shitting

948
00:50:35,039 --> 00:50:35,239
like that?

949
00:50:36,159 --> 00:50:38,679
Speaker 6: Okay, he just leaned out to one thing and just yes,

950
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,360
just shot out. And you think he fired privent three

951
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,800
to four times? I think four 'em and you missed

952
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,559
him once. I think I missed him first.

953
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: Shit he did he those you were shooting at him,

954
00:50:48,519 --> 00:50:51,840
He looked at you or I think of you gout.

955
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 6: He was weeding and I don't think he knew where

956
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,199
the first shot come from. And another three hitting hard.

957
00:50:56,519 --> 00:50:59,159
You saw him when he fell out here?

958
00:51:00,199 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 2: Do you follow?

959
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 6: It's fast phase down or I'll say probably clasped on

960
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,519
his side. Okay, there's one to deal a shot quick.

961
00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:12,159
I had to grab you down with him. Yeah, he

962
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,400
was weed you so what it looked like to me?

963
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,119
Speaker 2: Okay? And I didn't stop, you know, you could just roll.

964
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:18,840
I was still.

965
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,639
Speaker 6: I probably want him thirty miles an hour, forty down

966
00:51:21,679 --> 00:51:24,960
to about fifteen, slowed down quick throughout. The one that

967
00:51:25,039 --> 00:51:27,800
missed the fire shot fired three more. You tell I

968
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,760
hit him and hit him up, hit him wrong on there?

969
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,239
Do you have a you have a scope on their rifle.

970
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 2: And no open science? Yeah, he yet love. Yeah, a

971
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:36,440
bad shot.

972
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 7: Should have hit him up in there. Where do you

973
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,760
get Tommy Toddy?

974
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:41,559
Speaker 2: You chest shot?

975
00:51:41,639 --> 00:51:43,079
Speaker 7: He got him in the chairs?

976
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:44,079
Speaker 1: Uh?

977
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: Did you? Uh? Have you changed cell phone recently? Been

978
00:51:52,519 --> 00:51:55,360
down the same phone for how long years? Ye?

979
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 8: All right, Well, I don't know much about what happened

980
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,760
in Pride, but he's killing boored?

981
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 7: Does he asked you some question?

982
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 2: That's pretty much why I hed hed, you know, on

983
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,039
the evening. Of course he was nineteen. Do you remember

984
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:16,119
that day how that went? I wasn't shoty, yes.

985
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 6: Sir, really you don't understand past by standing out there,

986
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,800
had a green shirt on when I fired twice and

987
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:22,199
hit him.

988
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,679
Speaker 2: Did you what direction you were on?

989
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:27,519
Speaker 10: Uh?

990
00:52:27,679 --> 00:52:30,119
Speaker 6: Touched plank road to watch plank road? Did you go

991
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,199
past past him, turned around, came up, shot him and

992
00:52:33,199 --> 00:52:34,880
went on? Where'd you turn around?

993
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 2: Probably up there and uh the last little road before

994
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:45,159
you get the Pride park Robinson? No, No, on the

995
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:51,000
other side of the road. Uh, jerk, jerk yet lat Yeah,

996
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,480
drinker lays some right in there. Okay, did you sit

997
00:52:55,599 --> 00:52:56,440
there for a little while?

998
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 5: No?

999
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: I seen him when I heard around, spun around there.

1000
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:02,840
Wasn't that come here? What?

1001
00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 6: Uh?

1002
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,199
Speaker 2: What vehicle. You were in that same little car, a

1003
00:53:06,199 --> 00:53:14,559
little white Nissan. Yeah, what did you do with h?

1004
00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:17,800
Be checked? Uh? Cases arsinoe?

1005
00:53:19,559 --> 00:53:23,039
Speaker 7: No, I don't have no legal But what what'd you do?

1006
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 2: Just thrown one so long? Yeah? Just throw on the bushes?

1007
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,679
Where about on sixty three? You st they should have

1008
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:30,760
been bouts all on the ground.

1009
00:53:31,199 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 7: Oh you threw him out of sixty.

1010
00:53:32,559 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 2: Three that should have been. I couldn't find any in

1011
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:35,280
the car. I found one.

1012
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 8: The other three should have been on the road. I

1013
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,480
could hear them hitting the road from the car. Wasn't

1014
00:53:39,559 --> 00:53:42,239
when you went? When they did fall in the car?

1015
00:53:42,679 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1016
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 7: Where did you throw them? Somewhere around the house?

1017
00:53:45,519 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 6: Or I throw 'em in the bushes? Throw them out

1018
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,400
the window as you were driving? Yeah, let's get it

1019
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:50,679
right on.

1020
00:53:51,679 --> 00:53:57,079
Speaker 2: We're by the one on prior foot accent is the

1021
00:53:57,199 --> 00:54:01,039
one locations found mad. I didn't find a woman in

1022
00:54:01,079 --> 00:54:03,199
the car. H So you found one? Caught on you

1023
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,920
fire twice? Yeah? Okay, he should have been should have

1024
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,679
been a shevel. What can you Where was he standing

1025
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:11,880
when you when you shot it?

1026
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,639
Speaker 6: Standing numbers by his driveway, by the dish. He he

1027
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,159
had anything in his hand or anything like that I

1028
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,000
a pulfsprayer or something, a pump sprayer, black people's weed easy,

1029
00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:25,039
you know stuff like that. Yeah, sir, did you see

1030
00:54:25,079 --> 00:54:26,960
anybody near his house?

1031
00:54:27,079 --> 00:54:30,519
Speaker 2: Anything? Or did you stop with that one? Or you

1032
00:54:30,639 --> 00:54:31,079
kept wrong?

1033
00:54:31,159 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1034
00:54:31,559 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 2: I'm still rolling.

1035
00:54:32,599 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 6: So you about the same thing about ten or fifteen

1036
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,960
miles an hour, and you just he dropped.

1037
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 2: Flying on him and he dropped on his on his buck.

1038
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,320
I said, well, so he dropped on his butt.

1039
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:46,039
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then he leaned over to I guess his

1040
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,239
right side, and it might have been his left cause

1041
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:52,760
I was facing and I didn't when I shoot, I

1042
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,639
don't stop. I don't I've been shot back at before.

1043
00:54:55,639 --> 00:54:57,440
I don't stick around stop.

1044
00:54:57,519 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 2: I don't stop. So when you when you saw him fall, well,

1045
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,000
I don't know if you singing for you? We saw

1046
00:55:04,039 --> 00:55:06,400
a fall on his butt? Yeah, and then turn off?

1047
00:55:06,519 --> 00:55:09,199
So you just rolled and kept on? Were you speedy

1048
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,159
or you just rolled out castle?

1049
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 9: Oh?

1050
00:55:12,199 --> 00:55:14,639
Speaker 2: I hopked up to about sixty real quick. About sixty?

1051
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,239
Did you passed Pride one? Stop? No, I went to

1052
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:18,960
the other way. I was going towards plank. Oh, so

1053
00:55:19,119 --> 00:55:20,239
you was going towards the plank?

1054
00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:24,119
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, So you just rolled on straight to your house. Yeah,

1055
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:29,320
so you went to up Pride Fort that's room plank road. No, No,

1056
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,960
I cut through one of them gravel roads. What you

1057
00:55:32,119 --> 00:55:34,760
remember which one morning? Scott Baro roads and all that. Oh,

1058
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,519
you went to Skybald cut through all.

1059
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,199
Speaker 2: Right, you didn't got back on the road. Okay, So

1060
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:39,840
you went to Scott Boyd. Yeah, I didn't get on

1061
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:44,559
a plane. About how long it took you went straight off? Yeah?

1062
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,639
Did you stopped anywhere before you went there? None? None

1063
00:55:48,679 --> 00:55:50,880
of this time about shotow, I didn't stop anywhere. So

1064
00:55:54,199 --> 00:55:56,159
that morning this happened.

1065
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 6: My accident happened around about five thirty one around that time.

1066
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,800
Do you remember that at the time, now right around there,

1067
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:08,159
I'd say about six o'clock literally five thirty okay, But

1068
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:09,880
prior to that, did.

1069
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: You know this guy? You knew who you were targeting

1070
00:56:14,159 --> 00:56:18,119
or you he had a green shirt on? Okay, so

1071
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:22,920
you looked for somebody with a green shirt. Each side's

1072
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,400
got a different colored shirt, whatever color, right hit that's

1073
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:37,000
who gets a point. Oh okay, so you it's a book.

1074
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:41,320
But the one one lady's got blue shirt, she's an

1075
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,679
African American. If I see a blue shirt. I hope

1076
00:56:43,679 --> 00:56:48,280
you're kind of start up little better than you. Yeah, okay,

1077
00:56:51,079 --> 00:56:53,559
Now the guys that.

1078
00:56:53,639 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 6: Will use to these incidents, did you did you put

1079
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,679
them better safe or if you're just basic, put 'em

1080
00:57:00,679 --> 00:57:01,920
on a palco around your house?

1081
00:57:02,159 --> 00:57:04,679
Speaker 2: There's dround my house? Yes? Right? Where was that? Where

1082
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:09,639
was that? Three? Uh? Three point five? Over? Be leaning

1083
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,079
against the wall in the house in the what room?

1084
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:17,079
Then in the then? Yeah? So do you have boy

1085
00:57:17,119 --> 00:57:17,719
in one of 'em?

1086
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 6: Right?

1087
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,519
Speaker 2: Just one? Just one? What about the rights? Which where

1088
00:57:21,519 --> 00:57:23,320
would they be in the house? What was it in

1089
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,239
the car when they started? Me? I mean the shot

1090
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,000
down something. I'm leaning against the door front landing next

1091
00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:36,719
to the door, the front door. M is that your

1092
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,920
wife or you? No, let's just take her out front

1093
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,440
up move them. A few months ago and you said

1094
00:57:41,519 --> 00:57:43,960
she hadn't known anything that was going on. Yeah, she

1095
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,199
ain't tired this at all. I did take her car.

1096
00:57:46,159 --> 00:57:50,559
Speaker 7: While she was sleeping. Is that that place in your place?

1097
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 2: Right? Yes? Sir? When did you get it? I bought it?

1098
00:57:56,039 --> 00:57:56,079
Speaker 5: No?

1099
00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: Three right the days that you were of these incidents?

1100
00:58:01,039 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 6: I know me, I don't I feel uncomfortable when I

1101
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,519
leave my house without my phone?

1102
00:58:06,199 --> 00:58:11,079
Speaker 2: That you have your phone with you when you with

1103
00:58:11,239 --> 00:58:14,840
these incidents, you didn't bring it with it. If I

1104
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:19,880
do pull the battery out of it, why you do that? Man?

1105
00:58:20,239 --> 00:58:21,239
We can't track it.

1106
00:58:21,639 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 6: So you can't track it. So that's that's one of

1107
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,159
the reasons you don't take it. That's just the leader

1108
00:58:26,239 --> 00:58:30,679
at home. So if phone turns up, y'all, anybody tell

1109
00:58:30,679 --> 00:58:32,800
if you pull the battery out out and you don't,

1110
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,760
better off, just leave the phone at home, just the

1111
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:36,800
GPS to fix it.

1112
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,119
Speaker 2: If there's a routine thing that you do all the

1113
00:58:39,159 --> 00:58:41,000
time when you leave the house, that just when you

1114
00:58:41,639 --> 00:58:44,920
what the fall, when you feel just the tags. If not,

1115
00:58:45,039 --> 00:58:47,119
I'm only working. I need my phone for business.

1116
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,559
Speaker 6: Your business pretty look for Tippy make pretty good money

1117
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:53,559
during the flood.

1118
00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 2: I did pretty good.

1119
00:58:55,159 --> 00:58:58,079
Speaker 12: If you did any of these guys maybe Thomas House

1120
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,519
or you know he's but the gal on private what else?

1121
00:59:01,559 --> 00:59:06,679
Speaker 2: And you didn't know him at all? Never made Did

1122
00:59:06,719 --> 00:59:10,639
you see it on the news? Oh yeah? How did

1123
00:59:10,719 --> 00:59:16,920
that feel? Serious? Bass? Did you ever feel like calling

1124
00:59:18,039 --> 00:59:19,440
prior to you calling this?

1125
00:59:19,679 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 6: Uh corte, I knew it was adding enough, specially turn

1126
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:27,840
on my tag then, So today you you have a

1127
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,280
rifle Lincoln in your car?

1128
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,159
Speaker 2: Right where you going to champ to field? Tag? No,

1129
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,440
I was going to I was going to uh the

1130
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:37,960
all the parts to get a ready of their capt

1131
00:59:38,039 --> 00:59:41,719
for my truckle. But you you was coming up though,

1132
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,519
right what that's another tag? Yes, sir? Once I got

1133
00:59:45,559 --> 00:59:50,000
these five and this says not to get me hooked.

1134
00:59:50,159 --> 00:59:52,559
Let me see you got three right now? The dear

1135
00:59:52,639 --> 00:59:55,920
count for two? Yeah, yeah, I got it.

1136
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:56,599
Speaker 12: I got it down.

1137
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,639
Speaker 2: I see you got that's fine. So you you got

1138
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:05,440
five tass about five tasks? Hmm?

1139
01:00:06,599 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 12: So that you clean your cars out after this, so

1140
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,119
you just what you may call it like when you

1141
01:00:12,239 --> 01:00:15,840
get home, you can go look for cations in the car.

1142
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,719
If you wipe it down, I want to do you

1143
01:00:18,119 --> 01:00:18,639
wipe it down.

1144
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,039
Speaker 6: Just look for the cases, maket you're in no cases?

1145
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,320
Oh lady get pulled over and they looking at her cars.

1146
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,159
She don't overtail's going home? You you think you remember

1147
01:00:26,199 --> 01:00:28,280
where you next throwing the cases? So you're throwing out

1148
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:28,719
of the way.

1149
01:00:29,119 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 2: I throw them down. Thrown a couple out there't wanna driveway,

1150
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,280
so you think you may ask them down? You drive away.

1151
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,119
There might be a couple throwing around there from what's

1152
01:00:38,159 --> 01:00:41,159
swimming from? Uh?

1153
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 13: My den from dancing in on the nineteen on five collection. Uh,

1154
01:00:48,239 --> 01:00:50,159
I don't know my problem of us and we're drawn today.

1155
01:00:50,199 --> 01:00:52,239
I throw them out on the drive away.

1156
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's probably a couple of right now. Way all

1157
01:00:55,039 --> 01:00:57,159
you look for him or to the waves is pretty high.

1158
01:00:58,599 --> 01:01:03,880
Let me ask you this, what about a comic bash?

1159
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:09,119
Hou h? I got rid of that shell? What to

1160
01:01:09,199 --> 01:01:13,719
do with it? Burn it? How come it landed him

1161
01:01:13,719 --> 01:01:16,559
back of my truck? Oh? Did it? Yeah? I didn't

1162
01:01:16,599 --> 01:01:17,760
know til a couple of days later.

1163
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,159
Speaker 7: Uh stuck by the tail game?

1164
01:01:20,199 --> 01:01:23,559
Speaker 2: Where'd you burning it? Uh? This firepower? Hudhu s so

1165
01:01:23,679 --> 01:01:25,920
that she be in the firepower? Our thirty brass? Or

1166
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,440
what in the trash? H? Because I stung? Got it?

1167
01:01:30,559 --> 01:01:32,599
You say you had nothing to do with the honer shoot?

1168
01:01:33,599 --> 01:01:36,119
Uh both corn me? I was probably ain't bout fire

1169
01:01:36,199 --> 01:01:39,119
una killing his ass. I know that you have anything

1170
01:01:39,199 --> 01:01:41,599
to do with that. You say he's your friend. I

1171
01:01:42,039 --> 01:01:44,159
get ah, I I ain't your friends. I know him.

1172
01:01:45,119 --> 01:01:47,760
Did you shoot at Yeah? I shot at him? So

1173
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:49,920
you did shoot that? Yeah? I want to mess him.

1174
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:50,599
You ain't aim it?

1175
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 6: The Yeah, you really didn't wanna hear it, cause I

1176
01:01:53,039 --> 01:01:55,360
could tell him, no good, I missed him right, I

1177
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,920
shot tell her right twice he got ricocheted cause a

1178
01:01:58,599 --> 01:02:01,559
I can tell the whey you the way you shoot?

1179
01:02:02,519 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 2: I didn't want to say.

1180
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,559
Speaker 6: I didn't want to say that first because I got

1181
01:02:05,679 --> 01:02:07,440
a feeling that might be a tagg if the woman

1182
01:02:07,519 --> 01:02:07,960
a filling on.

1183
01:02:08,199 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 2: Well, we're not gonna you mentioned that, and that's that's

1184
01:02:11,039 --> 01:02:13,320
the that's the federal people too. I'm not gonna mention

1185
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,559
any So how many times did you fire him? Twice?

1186
01:02:16,239 --> 01:02:18,119
What you were driving? You little car?

1187
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,559
Speaker 6: Same thing, the white car. So he wasn't in the

1188
01:02:20,599 --> 01:02:23,239
truck this time. No, don't tell me Bass of them

1189
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than the car. So explain here too, shot the deer

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have the call, So explain explaining the situation with Thomas Bass.

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Speaker 2: I mean that Toimey Bass buck hop humpy. What happened?

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That is out there walker in the morning with a

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green shot on and he got close to a road.

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Did he see you? Yeah? Twice he hit the ground.

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He'd tell it wasn't a good shot. But I missed him.

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You pretty much tried to scare him. He saw me.

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He ain't gon kill anye noo shot though he didn't

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killing rifle. But why why you weren't trying to fill attack? Oh?

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I was trying to feel attacked, so you look. I

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was trying to feel that you were looking for him

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at that so he was a target. It was how

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long you have been looking for so as a singing

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that day prior to now? Not for your son of

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01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,679
the sing? How did you make some passive mind or

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one or two?

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Speaker 8: Did we have a long plans of short mans? He

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had short song and on short Yeah? And uh was

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he right there by that h ain't right here by

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that trainer by training?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? What happened in that case? I don't know. Probably

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01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,320
on the roads or you lost out and you didn't

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go back. So you basically how you should you? Basically

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the same deal? Still rolling and shot pint of style

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pace only.

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Speaker 7: Got him, he thought, uh, he thought, uh, he missed

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and got him rick ship, you come.

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Speaker 2: Here to be these nailed the tent on the trailer. Okay.

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Then he dropped. Now I figured I figured he might

1219
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,199
have got hit once or twice? Did did he did

1220
01:04:05,239 --> 01:04:08,800
he drop? He dropped and took out my first rocket shot?

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01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,559
Speaker 6: I think that I think the first one I shot

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twice so fast. The first one you already heard hit

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01:04:14,559 --> 01:04:16,599
to ten. I think he was spinning around. And that's

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when the second one fire too quick when I shot.

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Speaker 2: Him do one?

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Speaker 7: And then what happened?

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01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 6: Oh, he hit the ground and then he was running

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like a football player on the ground getting running the trailer.

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Why you did shoot again? Too much time? Too much time?

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It was morning time on the traffic.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe I was a little nervous. When

1232
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which ride did you take on that day? Straight back

1233
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:42,119
down sixty three? Once it out, you didn't you headed

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01:04:42,159 --> 01:04:45,639
toward the flint Kitts when shut no, I went, I

1235
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:49,159
wasn't got gas that Paradise up. The gas light was

1236
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on the car. What about to run out? So I'm

1237
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gonna fill up with gas? And all the way back

1238
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he was gonna spot it. So you want to fill

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01:04:56,199 --> 01:04:56,960
up gas? Yeah?

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01:04:57,079 --> 01:05:03,559
Speaker 8: First, Terri show you went to Paradise truck stop out

1241
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there on sixteen, Yes, sir, I saw it. You got

1242
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gas yes, in a little white car.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 7: And then did you use a Casher credit card?

1245
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 2: Uh? Probably cash? Yeah?

1246
01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 8: And then you uh when you when you came back,

1247
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:26,639
you coming east on nine fifty five.

1248
01:05:27,559 --> 01:05:33,519
Speaker 2: I mean, let's say it runs east or west. I

1249
01:05:33,559 --> 01:05:35,280
guess I was going west if I was going home?

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01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 8: Okay, and you saw Tom, I mean, uh, but hey,

1251
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:46,519
but passed him turn around, passed him, turn around and

1252
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then shot Yes twice.

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01:05:49,719 --> 01:05:53,039
Speaker 2: Twice back to pie. Dumb, dumb, what' set up? You

1254
01:05:55,079 --> 01:05:59,719
just curious when you when you shoot, do you wing

1255
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:01,239
for at the passenger's side?

1256
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Speaker 8: I was on you.

1257
01:06:03,119 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 2: You pulled it out. The woman wire about the wonder

1258
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:07,679
I want a barrel might be out to wander. My

1259
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:09,960
humble is still stuck in the court. My hand might

1260
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,199
be out to one. Just say no stuff and prop

1261
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,239
up on the window. Yeah, they take a shot on

1262
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,039
you trying to so you take them away. This is

1263
01:06:17,119 --> 01:06:20,519
a quick ordeal. You're shooting off the road. This is

1264
01:06:20,559 --> 01:06:21,400
another thing too.

1265
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,039
Speaker 6: If I would shoot somebody every couple of years, I

1266
01:06:27,079 --> 01:06:28,159
wouldn't have come on hooked.

1267
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:30,679
Speaker 2: I came on hook because I didn't shooting nobody in

1268
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,920
like five years. This is why I came on Hope.

1269
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,800
And I have a certain quick amount of time before

1270
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,880
fatal agents make me. They don't want me pull They

1271
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,840
want me to shoot straight off the highway. No slip

1272
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,599
up on no body's house, nothing like that. It's got

1273
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,079
to be shooting for a blacktop, shot for the count.

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01:06:50,239 --> 01:06:52,719
Speaker 6: That would be more. Yeah, so that it gets way horder.

1275
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,280
It ain't like you pull down there and catch somebody

1276
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,440
in the country and you of course not to cut

1277
01:06:57,519 --> 01:07:00,920
you off. You say you hadn't filled tag prior to

1278
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:05,320
this in five years probably so you might have you

1279
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:07,000
five years ago?

1280
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:11,159
Speaker 2: What happened? Anything happened? You feel any tags? I feel

1281
01:07:11,199 --> 01:07:13,719
tags over the years when you touch it? Can you

1282
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:17,320
name up? Now? You have to take that up? Yeah?

1283
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,000
That year that's ternal or something. I don't know.

1284
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,239
Speaker 6: So I used to get my tags, like I told you,

1285
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:28,840
out of the federal hotel. Get some presidents, take care

1286
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:29,360
of business.

1287
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 2: Yup. You have to feel the.

1288
01:07:31,039 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 6: Tag using a hangout if it hasn't been a long time,

1289
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:39,639
don't I have a hangdoun you don't want to hang up?

1290
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:42,400
Do whatn't want at all?

1291
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 2: What the last time you want? Last time I had one?

1292
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:48,039
I shot my packer off with it. H forty girls

1293
01:07:48,079 --> 01:07:49,719
at State Place can come to my house and get

1294
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:50,280
my pecker?

1295
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 8: What?

1296
01:07:51,239 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1297
01:07:52,039 --> 01:07:52,079
Speaker 5: So?

1298
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 2: Uh so I took my gun. Well, it's coming to

1299
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:56,239
get it anyhow. What kind of gun was it?

1300
01:07:56,519 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

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01:07:57,119 --> 01:07:59,039
Speaker 3: I don't even remember it spent on while I told

1302
01:07:59,079 --> 01:08:03,280
you it was strange, and it's really about to get

1303
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,840
wild in this case once this goes to trial. So

1304
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:09,800
I'm gonna go ahead. I'm going to wrap up this

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01:08:10,039 --> 01:08:13,119
episode and we'll peek it up next week with the trial,

1306
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:17,680
the conviction, and the retrial of Ryan Sharp. And if

1307
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,279
that confuses you, don't worry. I'm going to fill you

1308
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,399
in on all of this craziness next week. Thank you

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01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:27,239
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01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:44,520
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Bloodiest prison Peace.

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Speaker 2: I walk straight.

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Speaker 1: Line Shackle Chaine. Oh weesome, Girdie, it's calling my name.

1319
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:26,680
There is no mercy and it's been a tentery juice

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as the hill Stream game Wrangle three.

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Speaker 2: I'm here be.

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01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,239
Speaker 10: By mere to die.

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Speaker 1: Inside these walls, inside the wild, and when.

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Speaker 2: More girls I know it's sold.

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Speaker 1: Boody Angle

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Speaker 6: Obody a

