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<v Speaker 1>Nine five miles an hour were riding two his head.

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<v Speaker 2>He hop it down.

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<v Speaker 1>First with the limp bonius face, and now on the

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<v Speaker 1>very next pitch he up and stole second things with

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<v Speaker 1>gradest he wasn't born, he had, yes, YOUNI born?

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Welcome to episode Esteban Lewisa of The Prospect

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<v Speaker 2>B Sides Podcast, Episode forty eight. I am Nate handy

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<v Speaker 2>with me as always the rook oh rook exclamation point.

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<v Speaker 3>Today, we're excited to be back, Nate. It's been way

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<v Speaker 3>too long, man. I missed talking to you, hearing you

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<v Speaker 3>on all these other podcasts, but you can make time

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<v Speaker 3>to talk to little old me. I see how it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. I did not expect like a six week hiatus

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<v Speaker 2>from recording with you, but so apologies for that. I've

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<v Speaker 2>missed talking to you as well. Matt. But esb Wisa,

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<v Speaker 2>you approve that's this desaturation number forty eight, right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I could.

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<v Speaker 3>He's b said enough he had.

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<v Speaker 2>One one nice like cy young caliber year. Yeah, white sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I actually have a signed baseball from Esteban Ewisa. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta be careful though, I can't be taking that

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<v Speaker 2>thing through customs. I had no idea what might be

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<v Speaker 2>inside of it?

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<v Speaker 3>He gives you from his personal stash.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know where it came from.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's inside of that. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>where mister Lewisa is these days. I think is he

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<v Speaker 2>still in prison? I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm hopeful that the Braves number forty eight is

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<v Speaker 3>going to make a bit of a comeback this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Ian Anderson is such a key part of a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of deep postseason runs and might be back from the

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<v Speaker 3>dead from the proverbial fantasy wasteland.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I got that where I could use that.

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<v Speaker 2>I could use return to that sort of form. But Noah,

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<v Speaker 2>before man, the Cosmos news. Have you have you heard?

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<v Speaker 3>What is good?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I mean the hered events revolving around the most

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<v Speaker 2>of these days is just such an up and down,

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<v Speaker 2>such a whirlwind. It was so positive feeling after all

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<v Speaker 2>the UAP stuff, and now I don't know. It turns

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<v Speaker 2>out twenty thirty two might be it for us. Huh.

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<v Speaker 3>We got to talk to some of our dynasty mates

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<v Speaker 3>that are rebuilding for twenty thirty two and might need

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<v Speaker 3>to recalibrate their competitive windows.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying, like a DSL guy, like those

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<v Speaker 2>might just be all out the window right now. Twenty

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<v Speaker 2>thirty two might be the last year we get to

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<v Speaker 2>play this game. Yeah, they say three point one percent chance,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're not going to be able to observe it

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<v Speaker 2>again or something like that until like another year from now. So,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the way that it's been trending, the possibility

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<v Speaker 2>has been like doubling from like every other day. So

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that trend stops and we get better news

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<v Speaker 2>than a year.

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<v Speaker 3>But the other thing to consider is that even if

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<v Speaker 3>that goes up to one hundred percent gonna intersect Earth's orbit,

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<v Speaker 3>it's still really small even Earth scale of things, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a very small. So if it hits the ocean, like

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<v Speaker 3>basically nothing is going to happen. The chances that it

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<v Speaker 3>hits like something significant is way way smaller even than

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<v Speaker 3>the chances that it hits Earth. So you know, just

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<v Speaker 3>like keep that in context. It's I don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 3>it's crazy we know about it this far in advance,

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's amazing. Science is incredible and the astrophysics of

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<v Speaker 3>it all is incredible. But yeah, this is not high

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<v Speaker 3>on my list of worries currently.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm orderline terrified. But it could be like the

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<v Speaker 2>size of a minivan or something like it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>hit my house for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>No, their current prediction, I think is like the Pacific.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's what they're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>O's yeah, all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, well, which I mean, I don't know. I haven't

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<v Speaker 3>seen all of your house, so like maybe your house

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<v Speaker 3>is as big as the Pacific. But I'm guessing not.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, definitely not. Well. We are in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of like draft season, right, I think I'm like legit

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<v Speaker 2>snack dab right in the middle halfway through half of

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<v Speaker 2>my off season. D You know, we don't get asked

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<v Speaker 2>questions from listeners to too often, Matt, but a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of them did reach out and want to know how

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<v Speaker 2>we kind of prioritized our B side selections that we

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about this off season. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>probably a good question, and I thought maybe we should,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, try to answer that for some of our listeners.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, sounds great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know last year we did like a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a competitive draft sort of thing, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>we'll probably do the same sort of thing here tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>You get aside I get aside and we'll kind of

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<v Speaker 2>see how it all lines up at the end and

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<v Speaker 2>crowned champion. But since we are in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>draft season, some of our B siders, Matt are like

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<v Speaker 2>gaining popularity or at least upping their roster percentages. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>we were picking all these guys the roster percentages back

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<v Speaker 2>in September. We're from not created in fan tracks yet

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<v Speaker 2>to two percent. Right. Maybe a couple went a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit over, like three percent, But for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>that was the demographic derange we were looking for. And

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<v Speaker 2>now that we're you know, it's probably a lot more

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<v Speaker 2>dynasty leagues are drafting now on fan track. This is

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<v Speaker 2>roster percentage data. I don't it will change when a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of redraft leagues get up and running, so I

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<v Speaker 2>imagine a lot of these percentages will will come back down.

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<v Speaker 2>But I did put a list together mad of all

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<v Speaker 2>of our B siders and where their roster percentages were

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<v Speaker 2>sitting at. I don't know how much you've looked at that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Just in the five minutes since since you sent it

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<v Speaker 3>to me.

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<v Speaker 2>But you've looked at it, though, yes, you've looked at

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<v Speaker 2>the yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, scrolling through.

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<v Speaker 2>No surprise to me who's on top. Nestor German is

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<v Speaker 2>at fifteen percent right now. I know he was what

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<v Speaker 2>zero percent when we first talked about him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I have not been able to get him in any

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<v Speaker 2>drafts he's been going before I had a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>pull the trigger on him that. I don't know about you,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've.

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<v Speaker 3>Gotten him a couple of times. Once did from last

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<v Speaker 3>year as a waiver pickup, and once early in a draft.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Nestor German train seems to be picking up

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of speed. Second on the list. This

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of surprising to me. But your Mariner's arm,

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon Garcia is at thirteen percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm.

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<v Speaker 2>Threck me if I'm wrong here, But I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>moving to the bullpen right like, that's that's where he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the report that I saw was they're giving

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<v Speaker 3>him the chance to make the Mariners out of camp

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<v Speaker 3>in the bullpen. I did see something else that said

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<v Speaker 3>they still think he might have a shot to be

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<v Speaker 3>a starter long term, but they've done this before, kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like said, hey, maybe you've got a shot to

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<v Speaker 3>move to the pen, but we're going to keep the

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<v Speaker 3>door open. They did this a bit with Matt Brash,

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<v Speaker 3>where he was a starter in the miners. They said,

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<v Speaker 3>we love your stuff. You don't have a spot in

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<v Speaker 3>the rotation, but you could earn a spot in the

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<v Speaker 3>bullpen and then we'll reassess. And he was just so

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<v Speaker 3>good in the pen that they like said you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to stick in the pen. And then obviously TJ and

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<v Speaker 3>all that. But anyway, I wonder if Brandon Garcia is

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<v Speaker 3>going to have that same kind of optional path where

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<v Speaker 3>he starts as a reliever. Maybe maybe they don't think

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<v Speaker 3>he's ready for the bullpen and they want to keep

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<v Speaker 3>him developing as a starter and they send him back

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<v Speaker 3>to double A or Triple A. But I guess we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to see a lot of Brandon Garcia versus like

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<v Speaker 3>some real minor leaguers in spring training, which is fun too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. At the time, my Philly's arm is now with

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<v Speaker 2>the Twins after the Rule five draft, Iberson Castillano is

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<v Speaker 2>at twelve percent, your guy Lucas Browns at ten percent,

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<v Speaker 2>Will Simpson's at ten percent, idol kemps at nine percent.

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<v Speaker 2>I was surprised Juan Valera, who is probably at the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom of my thirty arms.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a surprise to me too, is.

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<v Speaker 2>That eight percent? Yeah, Chad Patrick is that eight percent?

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<v Speaker 2>R J. Shreks at eight percent, Tintawa seven, kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the early seven, Jake Miller seven, kind of Benitez seven Yet,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you say his first name? Yead here? Arianamo

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<v Speaker 2>at seven percent, lizbel Diez at seven percent, Gusto at six,

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<v Speaker 2>Darlin Saladine at six. Yeah. I won't go through the rest,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's a good junk. There's probably about twenty more

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<v Speaker 2>arms that are above two percent right now. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if that's necessarily a true jump in popularity

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<v Speaker 2>or the ratio of dynasty leagues to redraft leagues right

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<v Speaker 2>now on fan t rex. Yeah, I don't know any

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<v Speaker 2>any takeaways, there any surprises for you.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, like you said, Valera being at eight percent

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<v Speaker 3>as a surprise to me. I think Chad Patrick is

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<v Speaker 3>probably too low at eight percent, Like that's He's somebody

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<v Speaker 3>that I think that could easily be twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>percent depending on how things shake out early this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Jake Miller's another one that if any of the reports

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<v Speaker 3>that we've seen are to be believed, he should be

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<v Speaker 3>up there at fifteen right now with Nestor German, like

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<v Speaker 3>that's he looks great and we obviously loved him coming

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<v Speaker 3>into this offseason. Yeah, a couple others that kind of

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<v Speaker 3>surprised me a little bit, but not too much. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean again, like you said, it's an odd time in

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<v Speaker 3>the dynasty calendar where some you know, I think a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of fypds and unowned prospect drafts are happening for

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<v Speaker 3>our deeper leagues, but the redraft stuff hasn't picked up,

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<v Speaker 3>so and a lot of these guys too, Like there's

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<v Speaker 3>a good chance that some of them could move significantly

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<v Speaker 3>based on spring training news. You know, I saw down

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<v Speaker 3>there that John rave is at one percent fine, but

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<v Speaker 3>if he wins like the right field job for the Royals,

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<v Speaker 3>like that's going to be ten percent minimum coming out

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<v Speaker 3>of spring training. So some of these are make a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of sense. And you know, we came into this

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<v Speaker 3>doing a bit of prep for a mini draft between us,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't really think it's a surprise who has

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<v Speaker 3>ended up at the top, like that group of ten

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<v Speaker 3>or so at the top, Like that's probably the top

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<v Speaker 3>of our prep list. I don't know about you, but

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<v Speaker 3>pretty close, it looks pretty similar to mine, with the

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<v Speaker 3>exception of a couple of others.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I chatted about this a little bit with

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<v Speaker 2>Clegg and the Dynasty dugout discord, but I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 2>surprised that Will Johnston is still only at two percent. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of. I don't know. I don't think there's

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<v Speaker 2>too much of a difference in a play between he

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<v Speaker 2>and like a Jake Miller. I kind of kind of

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<v Speaker 2>value both those guys similarly, Any surprises, any takeaways from

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<v Speaker 2>from your drafts so far this season, anything on the

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so let me get this out of the way first.

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<v Speaker 3>I think fypds are a scam and I would trade

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<v Speaker 3>my picks away in my fypds every single time. And

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<v Speaker 3>there's a few reasons for this one.

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<v Speaker 2>We know way.

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<v Speaker 3>Less about the first year players than we think we do,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's some great lists out there, there's some great

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<v Speaker 3>better job than they ever have at trying to sort

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<v Speaker 3>the wheep from the chaff in the draft, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>great and hat tip to the awesome work that the

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of others really good, like Aaron Layton, the stuff

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<v Speaker 3>of people that are doing really good, interesting work and

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<v Speaker 3>trying to analyze this stuff. But as a dynasty baseball player,

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<v Speaker 3>if my goal is to win, I think taking the

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<v Speaker 3>FYPD picks is almost always the wrong choice, especially if

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<v Speaker 3>you're in an unowned prospects an FYPD draft, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think dynasty owners appropriately value the extra information that you

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<v Speaker 3>have about the unowned prospects. This gives us two things. One,

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<v Speaker 3>the valance, like the spread of risk is narrower even

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<v Speaker 3>for a young guy who's just touching low A that

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<v Speaker 3>you generally still have more looks and a better calibration

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<v Speaker 3>of their talent even with two hundred and fifty low

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<v Speaker 3>A plate appearances than you do from five hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>fifty over three seasons in college. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>we act like that in fypds. And I think this

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<v Speaker 3>like the historical performance of the you know whatever, top

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<v Speaker 3>hundred picks in a draft or in an FYPD dynasty ranking.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think we see some of the hurting that

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<v Speaker 3>happens in list making. We get excited about the possibility

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<v Speaker 3>of what could be, but that risk is actually way

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<v Speaker 3>bigger than we think, and the small sample performance of

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<v Speaker 3>guys in their fifty plate appearances after the draft or

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<v Speaker 3>that they didn't pitch, I don't think we do a

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<v Speaker 3>good enough job weighing that against real performance. Put my

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<v Speaker 3>money where I'm matt mouth is here, Like I've in

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<v Speaker 3>our thirty teamer that you and I are in. I

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<v Speaker 3>traded away all five of my FYPD picks this year,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is a deep thirty team league. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of sharp owners. I don't think these people

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<v Speaker 3>are bad at this, and by any means, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of really sharp minds in there. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>from a roster construction and risk to reward evaluation standpoint,

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<v Speaker 3>you're almost always better going for the prospect that you

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<v Speaker 3>know more about than the mystery box that could be.

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<v Speaker 3>And the example I'll bring up here, and again no

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<v Speaker 3>shade on my trade partner, they're super sharp in dynasty

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<v Speaker 3>and I think made a lot of good moves in

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<v Speaker 3>this draft, a lot of good picks. But I traded

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<v Speaker 3>my first overall pick, the twentieth overall pick in our

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<v Speaker 3>FYPD and Tursou ornellis who I like, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>has a sh to play in the Big six year

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<v Speaker 3>for Dylan Dingler and Chase my draft, and he took

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<v Speaker 3>Carson Benge at that pick one twenty. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>if you if you're the Mets and Carson Benge does

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<v Speaker 3>what Chase my draft has done the last two years,

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<v Speaker 3>you're fucking thrilled. You're like, Wow, we crushed that pick

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<v Speaker 3>at what at whatever he went like at seventeenth or

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<v Speaker 3>whatever it was in this draft, we crushed that pick.

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<v Speaker 3>That's incredible. That's like a small chance, like maybe that's

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<v Speaker 3>an eightieth percentile outcome for him, maybe seventy p It's

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<v Speaker 3>definitely above average when you look at like the return

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<v Speaker 3>on investment for second half of the first round pick.

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<v Speaker 3>And my draft, while divisive, is considered a top one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred prospect by a lot of outlets and certainly fantasy

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<v Speaker 3>relevant ones, and the especially in a points league in

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of format. Knowing your format, piece like to me,

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<v Speaker 3>my drafts should have gone in the top five picks

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<v Speaker 3>of this draft if people were like really ruthless about

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<v Speaker 3>this and tired about like performance only. So I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe I'm wrong, and maybe all of the computers

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<v Speaker 3>and the performance that he's had is going to completely

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<v Speaker 3>collapse because he can't hit the ball super hard. Totally

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<v Speaker 3>a possibility. There is that risk that the jump from

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<v Speaker 3>Triple A to major leagues is too much for him.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think this is indicative of we like the

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<v Speaker 3>mystery box toys of the FYPD, and we should put

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<v Speaker 3>a lot more stock in the performance and the tape

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<v Speaker 3>that we see in pro ball, not what we see

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<v Speaker 3>in college or underclass or in the perfect game stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's my like overall rant. That means that I

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<v Speaker 3>generally lean pretty far away from taking any FYPD guys,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, outside of like maybe the top couple, Like

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<v Speaker 3>maybe I would take one of those really pretty boy

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<v Speaker 3>guys at the very top of the draft. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm never at that position to see. I think people

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<v Speaker 3>would be well served to take a good look at

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<v Speaker 3>like are you in it for the excitement of maybe

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<v Speaker 3>hitting on the mystery box guy or should you just

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<v Speaker 3>go for the guy that you know a bit more about.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what's your feeling on this, Nate. You're

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<v Speaker 3>in that same draft and you've made some trades for

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<v Speaker 3>and moving back, So what do you think about that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting because that league is pretty long standing, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a lot of people have the opinion that

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<v Speaker 2>this first year player draft or this first year player

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<v Speaker 2>class is maybe not their favorites. But yet this was

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<v Speaker 2>the first time in the show that all thirty first

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<v Speaker 2>round picks were first year players. I think it says

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of things. I do think you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>the past there'd be an unrostered prospect. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is easily a top ten guy for me. In

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<v Speaker 2>this draft, those those guys are getting rostered more and more. So,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's says a compliment to the league as

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<v Speaker 2>a whole that the good prospects are getting rostered a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more. But I think I agree with a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of what you said there. I'm much more inclined to

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<v Speaker 2>take a player that I know more about than I

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<v Speaker 2>do less. I think that's at the core of what

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<v Speaker 2>you were kind of saying there. But I do also

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<v Speaker 2>understand the Okay, I might know a lot about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't kempt, but how excited him I about his MLB,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, potential and what his role might look like.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, depending on your roster and where you sit,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe just taking a moonshot taking a guest on the

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<v Speaker 2>guys is more up your alley, you know, or more

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<v Speaker 2>of what you want to do. But I agree, I

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<v Speaker 2>think there's a lot of you know, shoot, we do

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<v Speaker 2>the B side stuff, man. I think there's there's always

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<v Speaker 2>some prospects out there that I value a lot more

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<v Speaker 2>than some top one hundred guys. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of our whole point and what we're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>share and discover who some of those guys might be.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I was just going to say on that point,

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<v Speaker 3>like there's something of the curse of knowledge here where

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<v Speaker 3>because we pay so much more attention to guys that

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<v Speaker 3>just really aren't getting rostered in many dynasty leagues at all.

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<v Speaker 3>That the kind of knowledge base or like, I know

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<v Speaker 3>of another ten prospects that I would happily roster on

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<v Speaker 3>this league even after this thing finishes, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have space for all of them. And that

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<v Speaker 3>also plays into it too. Just I'm not looking at

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<v Speaker 3>a list to tell me this is who's interesting, because

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<v Speaker 3>we've got lists on lists, on lists that are a

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<v Speaker 3>thousand prospects deep that we've evaluated, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just because you're ranting a little bit. So many

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<v Speaker 2>times you hear somebody like, hey, I took Seth Halverson

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<v Speaker 2>in my first year player draft. Can we call it

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<v Speaker 2>something else because that wasn't a first year player draft

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<v Speaker 2>if you drafted Seth Helverston. Yeah, yeah, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>do have a draft one league that's a true first

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<v Speaker 2>year player nothing else. But I think the majority of

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<v Speaker 2>the dynasty minor league draft. It's like a minor league

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<v Speaker 2>supplemental thing with first year player. So I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a good name for it.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, the off season.

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<v Speaker 2>A little confusing when people are off.

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<v Speaker 3>Season prospect draft. No, that's a good point too. I

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<v Speaker 3>think the other point, and this is something that I

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<v Speaker 3>think we chatted about last week. I was in another

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<v Speaker 3>points league draft and again that's an international free agent

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<v Speaker 3>and unknown prospects and FYPD guys, and that first round

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<v Speaker 3>was absolutely hilarious to me because this league is very specific.

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<v Speaker 3>It is to shallow. I mean relatively, it's like fourteen

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<v Speaker 3>or fifteen teams something like that, so kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>shallow league. The roster limits are not super deep. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's like a was it thirty five roster or

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<v Speaker 3>forty one total roster, so like max your minor leagues

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<v Speaker 3>is like fifteen. So it's not very deep. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>also a pretty different points format that is very very

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<v Speaker 3>strikeout heavy penalty and pitching friendly. And everybody just went

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<v Speaker 3>down the draft as if it was like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Chris Klegg's FYPD list. You know, Roki went first, makes sense,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they just went like straight down the FYPD order.

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<v Speaker 3>Not an appropriate enough weight on the format that we're

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<v Speaker 3>playing in, and some of that, like maybe you just

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<v Speaker 3>draft like the top couple names because they're still going

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<v Speaker 3>to fetch something in trade value. But for me, like

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<v Speaker 3>I took Caleb Durban in the first round ahead of

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<v Speaker 3>like a whole host of dudes that like Durbin is

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<v Speaker 3>way behind and most like Fantasy list, but it's because

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<v Speaker 3>the guy's not going to cave very much. He's probably

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<v Speaker 3>going to play decent amount this year, and he'll steal

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<v Speaker 3>some bags, and all of those things are rewarded really

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<v Speaker 3>well in this league, and I was like, most of

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<v Speaker 3>my picks ended up being like that because I just

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<v Speaker 3>don't think that a bunch of the other FYPD pretty

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<v Speaker 3>boys fit that bill. A lot of them have strikeout

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<v Speaker 3>concerns but decent power, and that's just not a thing

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<v Speaker 3>that really plays in this league. So my other point

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<v Speaker 3>is like, you should care a lot about your format

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<v Speaker 3>and that should absolutely change how you decide to draft.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely, Like to your original point here, I think you

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<v Speaker 2>can see it a lot when you know, what is

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<v Speaker 2>it now at mid July or whatever, when folks will

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<v Speaker 2>like update their prospect ranks, right, and they're now including

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<v Speaker 2>this year's draftees. Right. I don't have any statistics to

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<v Speaker 2>back this up, but been observing these things for a

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<v Speaker 2>while now, and it feels like to me, when that happens,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll get like a I don't know how many you'll get,

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<v Speaker 2>like ten to twenty MLB draft. E's like put in

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<v Speaker 2>someone's top top one hundred, but then a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>those guys end up falling out of it, right. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the same phenomenon that you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's the new name we don't know that this

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<v Speaker 2>guy sucks yet, right, So I'm going to take a

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<v Speaker 2>stab here, but I think that I thought it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was interesting that I thought it was interesting. In Eric

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<v Speaker 3>Logenhingen's Top one hundred at Fangrafts this week, he mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>and a couple of commentors noted, that there weren't a

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<v Speaker 3>ton of the first year player from this past draft

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<v Speaker 3>in his top one hundred. I think fewer than often

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<v Speaker 3>get there, and some of that is maybe the relative

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<v Speaker 3>weakness of the class, but some of that, too, I

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<v Speaker 3>think is a reflection on when they've kind of been

422
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<v Speaker 3>over enthusiastic on and put more weight on things that

423
00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:35.720
<v Speaker 3>have turned out to be a little bit unreliable. And

424
00:20:35.759 --> 00:20:38.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, one of my favorite sources for additional context

425
00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:42.200
<v Speaker 3>and information is Denzenborski and his zips, and he put

426
00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:45.039
<v Speaker 3>out his zip's top one hundred, and he basically ignores

427
00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:48.640
<v Speaker 3>the first year players because he's like, the high school

428
00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:51.279
<v Speaker 3>and college data that we get is not predictive, and

429
00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:54.720
<v Speaker 3>their draft position is not predictive or not strongly enough

430
00:20:54.759 --> 00:20:57.480
<v Speaker 3>predictive for me to include it in this sample. And

431
00:20:57.680 --> 00:21:00.799
<v Speaker 3>I think that that represents a buying opportunity for most

432
00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:04.039
<v Speaker 3>people that you can trade back ignore the top pretty

433
00:21:04.039 --> 00:21:07.240
<v Speaker 3>boys like do kind of your own thing, and the

434
00:21:07.319 --> 00:21:10.519
<v Speaker 3>opportunity cost is actually not that high. Like the bus

435
00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:13.400
<v Speaker 3>rate is still super super high even for top five

436
00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:16.319
<v Speaker 3>draft picks, and we just don't know. So I think

437
00:21:16.359 --> 00:21:19.799
<v Speaker 3>that while teams and dynasty rankers and prospect rankers are

438
00:21:19.799 --> 00:21:23.920
<v Speaker 3>definitely getting better, there are still such huge questions even

439
00:21:23.960 --> 00:21:26.519
<v Speaker 3>from some of the top SEC performers. I think that's

440
00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:30.839
<v Speaker 3>still relevant, Like the Charlie Condon came into the draft

441
00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:34.000
<v Speaker 3>and just crushed it last year, was kind of bad

442
00:21:34.240 --> 00:21:37.240
<v Speaker 3>as a pro and now he's like in dropping out

443
00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:39.759
<v Speaker 3>of the top twenty five, top thirty in some places

444
00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:43.640
<v Speaker 3>that I've seen in fypds, because again, we really don't

445
00:21:43.680 --> 00:21:46.599
<v Speaker 3>know until they hit and perform or don't in pro ball,

446
00:21:46.799 --> 00:21:49.960
<v Speaker 3>and so why not take the remove at least some

447
00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:53.920
<v Speaker 3>of that risk by seeing how somebody has done against

448
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<v Speaker 3>against real professionals.

449
00:21:55.799 --> 00:21:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that one true first year player draft that I'm in.

450
00:21:58.559 --> 00:22:02.240
<v Speaker 2>It's five rounds. It's a fourteen team roto, I believe.

451
00:22:02.279 --> 00:22:05.000
<v Speaker 2>But you have to drop anybody from your existing spec

452
00:22:05.119 --> 00:22:08.440
<v Speaker 2>list if you want to house your first year player picks, right,

453
00:22:08.519 --> 00:22:10.880
<v Speaker 2>So dude, I got like I got to the third round,

454
00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:12.559
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't want any more of my picks.

455
00:22:12.599 --> 00:22:14.759
<v Speaker 2>No one I'm gonna pick here is gonna boot somebody

456
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<v Speaker 2>off my list. So I just kicked them down the

457
00:22:16.440 --> 00:22:18.319
<v Speaker 2>road and got to pick next year or something like that.

458
00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:22.000
<v Speaker 2>But it's tricky. I think I get more and more picky,

459
00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:26.880
<v Speaker 2>selective first year player players that I'll actually want to like,

460
00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:29.559
<v Speaker 2>sort of draft and commit to, and there's less and

461
00:22:29.640 --> 00:22:33.759
<v Speaker 2>less every year, I think. Yeah, but I'm also getting

462
00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:36.799
<v Speaker 2>to see less and less of them now hit full

463
00:22:36.799 --> 00:22:39.599
<v Speaker 2>season ball and MLB dot TV, so that might play

464
00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:40.400
<v Speaker 2>into it as well.

465
00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:43.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, wish they would just film and showcase that dev

466
00:22:43.640 --> 00:22:46.400
<v Speaker 3>league that they're doing or whatever they're calling it that uh,

467
00:22:46.880 --> 00:22:48.359
<v Speaker 3>what's it called? What do they call it? I wanted

468
00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:51.240
<v Speaker 3>to short season, but that's the Bridge League, that's right, Yeah.

469
00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Which is a ridiculous name to me. That's like my

470
00:22:54.039 --> 00:22:58.200
<v Speaker 2>grandmother played in a Bridge league? Like what that's true?

471
00:22:58.519 --> 00:22:59.839
<v Speaker 3>My uncle plays in a Bridge league?

472
00:22:59.880 --> 00:23:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Yea? They should we draft it up here? Should we

473
00:23:05.359 --> 00:23:06.960
<v Speaker 2>put some of our I don't know, I want to

474
00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:08.960
<v Speaker 2>say money, but we're not betting anything, but some of

475
00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:11.079
<v Speaker 2>our pride where our mouth is here?

476
00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:14.119
<v Speaker 3>What are we doing like we're taking five hitters five

477
00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:17.599
<v Speaker 3>pitchers each and talking about him and try and spread

478
00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:20.039
<v Speaker 3>them around this ownership list. Yeah.

479
00:23:20.119 --> 00:23:22.759
<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, we broke down and got into all these

480
00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:25.039
<v Speaker 2>players in previous episodes, so I don't I don't think

481
00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:26.799
<v Speaker 2>I want to get like too too deep like we

482
00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:29.079
<v Speaker 2>did there. If folks want to listen to his talk

483
00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:31.400
<v Speaker 2>more about some of these players. I have all the

484
00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:34.359
<v Speaker 2>players time stamped on the episodes and when we get

485
00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:36.000
<v Speaker 2>into them. But yeah, I mean, I think we could

486
00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:40.000
<v Speaker 2>briefly chat about them. You're supposedly the defending champ in this,

487
00:23:40.279 --> 00:23:42.359
<v Speaker 2>so I guess I'll let you go first.

488
00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:46.480
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, I'm going to leave the number one guy

489
00:23:46.519 --> 00:23:50.480
<v Speaker 3>on the board again because you like you identified him.

490
00:23:50.480 --> 00:23:52.440
<v Speaker 3>He's kind of your guy, but a huge coas on

491
00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:54.640
<v Speaker 3>on me, and I think in a vacuum I would

492
00:23:54.640 --> 00:23:56.319
<v Speaker 3>take Nesser German here.

493
00:23:56.640 --> 00:23:59.799
<v Speaker 2>I would too. Let's just skip him. He's already getting popular.

494
00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:01.759
<v Speaker 2>We're not going to take all right, that's like the

495
00:24:01.799 --> 00:24:02.799
<v Speaker 2>most out of our list.

496
00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:05.440
<v Speaker 3>It really had a tough time breaking this down because

497
00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:08.640
<v Speaker 3>I genuinely think my like the top ten arms that

498
00:24:08.680 --> 00:24:11.880
<v Speaker 3>I drafted, I love them. I would be like thrilled

499
00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:15.039
<v Speaker 3>in a thirty team or if this was my set

500
00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:17.599
<v Speaker 3>of arms that I'm rostering, I'll go with Ben Shields

501
00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:19.680
<v Speaker 3>as my first one. You know, we didn't mention him

502
00:24:19.720 --> 00:24:22.720
<v Speaker 3>in the intro, and while I've raved about him on

503
00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:26.039
<v Speaker 3>the show, I'm still not seeing a ton of people

504
00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:29.599
<v Speaker 3>pick him in FYPDS. I picked him in two because

505
00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:32.319
<v Speaker 3>I really really love what he's doing and think he's

506
00:24:32.519 --> 00:24:33.200
<v Speaker 3>the real deal.

507
00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:35.599
<v Speaker 2>Only at right now, I know I.

508
00:24:35.559 --> 00:24:37.720
<v Speaker 3>Saw that on the list only three percent, and I

509
00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:41.319
<v Speaker 3>think that is criminally underrated. Shoot, I'm forgetting where I

510
00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:43.920
<v Speaker 3>saw this now, but it might have been the robo

511
00:24:43.960 --> 00:24:47.880
<v Speaker 3>Scout Top one hundred Baseball America Dylan White's robo scout tool.

512
00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:50.799
<v Speaker 3>It put Ben Shields as a top one hundred arm.

513
00:24:50.920 --> 00:24:54.720
<v Speaker 3>Right now, I fully agree this guy belongs in that

514
00:24:54.839 --> 00:24:57.920
<v Speaker 3>like forty five plus to fifty tier of Like this

515
00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:00.799
<v Speaker 3>guy in the next year could earn in a major

516
00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:03.839
<v Speaker 3>league gaverage rotation spot and maybe he debuts and it's

517
00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:05.920
<v Speaker 3>like a one point five war kind of guy or

518
00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:08.200
<v Speaker 3>one war kind of guy and one hundred innings and

519
00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:11.839
<v Speaker 3>at peak he's you know, a one seventy five kind

520
00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:15.640
<v Speaker 3>of inning pitcher and is a kind of two point

521
00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:18.200
<v Speaker 3>two to three war starter. Like, I'm not saying this

522
00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:20.799
<v Speaker 3>guy is going to be Paul Schemes or anything, but

523
00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:25.039
<v Speaker 3>his depth of rotation, quality of stuff, the comps that

524
00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:28.200
<v Speaker 3>I had on him to a bunch of Max freed pitches,

525
00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:31.000
<v Speaker 3>but with additional pitches on top of that. It is

526
00:25:31.119 --> 00:25:33.799
<v Speaker 3>no wonder to me that this dude just crushed the

527
00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:37.319
<v Speaker 3>Eastern League this year, and I think he's gonna continue

528
00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:39.599
<v Speaker 3>to rise in the ranks, and I'm really hope that

529
00:25:39.640 --> 00:25:42.240
<v Speaker 3>the Yankees just PLoP him in Scranton and just see

530
00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:45.240
<v Speaker 3>what he does. I just think he is super talented

531
00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:48.640
<v Speaker 3>left handed pitcher with a deep arsenal of quality pitches

532
00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:52.079
<v Speaker 3>and velocity numbers aren't eye popping, but I think the

533
00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:55.480
<v Speaker 3>shape and the pitchability and the command all are there

534
00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:59.039
<v Speaker 3>and such the fastball itself plays up, and the depth

535
00:25:59.079 --> 00:26:01.680
<v Speaker 3>of repertoire helps helps everything come together too. So Ben

536
00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:03.720
<v Speaker 3>Shields is my would be my number one pick here

537
00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:05.559
<v Speaker 3>and again I've put my money where my mouth is year.

538
00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:07.400
<v Speaker 3>I've got him in a bunch of leagues now, and

539
00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:09.240
<v Speaker 3>even the leagues where I don't have him, I've tried

540
00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:13.200
<v Speaker 3>to trade for him, sometimes unsuccessfully, sometimes successfully. So Shields

541
00:26:13.240 --> 00:26:13.799
<v Speaker 3>is my guy here.

542
00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:17.839
<v Speaker 2>My only hesitation with Shields, And I've been sitting at

543
00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:20.640
<v Speaker 2>the draft table thinking about him a few times as

544
00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:22.799
<v Speaker 2>I and I just went with somebody else. Is the

545
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:26.160
<v Speaker 2>opportunity right now as things sit? How many innings is

546
00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:28.519
<v Speaker 2>he going to get with the Yankees? Does it require

547
00:26:28.599 --> 00:26:32.079
<v Speaker 2>that he moves, get traded whatever, So that has been

548
00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:34.720
<v Speaker 2>a tiebreaker for me with him and a couple other

549
00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:36.279
<v Speaker 2>guys this draft season.

550
00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:39.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And to that point, I don't know how many

551
00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:43.440
<v Speaker 3>innings he gets. I hard to put in a confident

552
00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:46.799
<v Speaker 3>over under on it. The Yankees they're super rich as

553
00:26:46.839 --> 00:26:50.640
<v Speaker 3>an organization, both in talent and in money. So if

554
00:26:50.839 --> 00:26:54.079
<v Speaker 3>some of their pitchers don't pan out, you know, Rodan

555
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:56.599
<v Speaker 3>gets hurt, Free blows out his elbow in his first

556
00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:58.480
<v Speaker 3>year of his contract, Like, they do have some other

557
00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:01.759
<v Speaker 3>depth that I think they'd look at to fill things in.

558
00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:05.680
<v Speaker 3>You know, Will Warren notably probably ahead of him. I

559
00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:09.519
<v Speaker 3>don't know if really anybody else is that much farther ahead.

560
00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:12.160
<v Speaker 3>You know, he's not on the forty, So there's that.

561
00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:14.559
<v Speaker 3>So I think that also this year, like if you

562
00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:17.440
<v Speaker 3>really need the innings, this year is probably not his year.

563
00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:21.359
<v Speaker 3>But just talent, like maybe he's eighth or ninth in

564
00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:24.559
<v Speaker 3>their pecking order, and major league teams use like thirteen

565
00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:26.839
<v Speaker 3>starters in the course of a year, and if somebody's

566
00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:29.720
<v Speaker 3>really good, they'll keep giving him run. I'm just saying, like,

567
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:34.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't think Brandon Lee Brandt and Alan Winan's and

568
00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:38.279
<v Speaker 3>whatever thirty eight year old Carlos Carrasco have left are

569
00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:41.519
<v Speaker 3>really that much of an impediment to Ben Shields ultimately

570
00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:44.920
<v Speaker 3>getting innings. That's it's a fair tiebreaker to use to say, like,

571
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:46.319
<v Speaker 3>I need the innings this year, and I don't know

572
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:47.839
<v Speaker 3>if I'm going to get him from Shields, but I

573
00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:51.079
<v Speaker 3>do re term that I'm pretty darn bullish on his

574
00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:51.640
<v Speaker 3>his skills.

575
00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't disagree with him as a pitcher as

576
00:27:54.440 --> 00:27:57.599
<v Speaker 2>a player, valuing him at the top of our offseason

577
00:27:57.640 --> 00:28:00.920
<v Speaker 2>work here. Yeah, draft season's fun because you get put

578
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:02.720
<v Speaker 2>to the fire and you have to make your choices

579
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:05.480
<v Speaker 2>and you find out who you like better than some others. So,

580
00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:07.519
<v Speaker 2>at least my first handful here, I'm just going to

581
00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:10.119
<v Speaker 2>kind of stick to what I learned and who I

582
00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:13.359
<v Speaker 2>learned I liked the most out of our selections this year. First,

583
00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:15.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go with my guy, Ryan Gusto nice.

584
00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:19.440
<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, obviously he was supposed to debut

585
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:21.839
<v Speaker 2>last season. I don't know how much run he's going

586
00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:23.720
<v Speaker 2>to get that fifth spot. I think it's kind of

587
00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:26.799
<v Speaker 2>up for grabs at least right now in the Astros rotation.

588
00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:30.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm not betting that he ends up breaking camp as

589
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:32.440
<v Speaker 2>their fifth starter, but I think a shot and a

590
00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:35.680
<v Speaker 2>run is relatively quick here. And you know, like we

591
00:28:35.799 --> 00:28:38.160
<v Speaker 2>talked about, I like him as a sum of all parts.

592
00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:40.920
<v Speaker 2>I like him as a competitor as a person. Is

593
00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:45.720
<v Speaker 2>he the flashiest sexiest picture on my list this year?

594
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:49.839
<v Speaker 2>Probably not, But I think Major League's success is very

595
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.799
<v Speaker 2>much an outcome for Gusta. So I'll stick with him

596
00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:53.799
<v Speaker 2>and go with him first.

597
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like that one a lot. I don't think

598
00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:58.359
<v Speaker 3>I have any shares. I have definitely asked after him

599
00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:01.279
<v Speaker 3>as like a balancer in a couple of trades that

600
00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:04.119
<v Speaker 3>haven't gone through, but like he's somebody that I keep

601
00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:07.079
<v Speaker 3>targeting to. All right, let's go to the athlete side

602
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:10.400
<v Speaker 3>of things. I'll highlight my number one here. You know,

603
00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:12.680
<v Speaker 3>Nate and I both identified a bunch of guys that

604
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:15.240
<v Speaker 3>we were had in common that that we liked. The

605
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:19.559
<v Speaker 3>top of my list though, was Aaron Estrada, and again

606
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:21.759
<v Speaker 3>in our thirty teamer that we were just talking about,

607
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:24.440
<v Speaker 3>I traded for Estrata with what I thought was great

608
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:28.119
<v Speaker 3>price for my fifth round FIPD pick, which shows kind

609
00:29:28.119 --> 00:29:31.279
<v Speaker 3>of how others view Estrata and I get it like

610
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:35.440
<v Speaker 3>he's on the smaller side. He's not. He's definitely overshadowed

611
00:29:35.559 --> 00:29:39.640
<v Speaker 3>in the deep and highly talented Baltimore system. But Aerin

612
00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Astrata just does so many things that I like, and

613
00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:46.680
<v Speaker 3>he's young and keeps performing even at advanced levels. His

614
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:50.319
<v Speaker 3>worst season was the last little kind of month of

615
00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:52.119
<v Speaker 3>the season that he spent at High A this year,

616
00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:53.839
<v Speaker 3>and he was still a league average hitter as a

617
00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:56.559
<v Speaker 3>nineteen year old. The guys that were younger at that

618
00:29:56.720 --> 00:30:00.240
<v Speaker 3>level or higher, that list is vanishingly short, and ones

619
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:02.960
<v Speaker 3>that did better than him is like two guys. It's

620
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:06.440
<v Speaker 3>like Sebastian Walcott and who's the other one, Walker Jenkins.

621
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:08.440
<v Speaker 3>I guess like are the two that were younger than

622
00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:11.480
<v Speaker 3>him went to the same level or higher and did better.

623
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:14.000
<v Speaker 3>So that to me, I do care a lot about

624
00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:16.519
<v Speaker 3>h to level performance for a hitter. I think one

625
00:30:16.519 --> 00:30:18.599
<v Speaker 3>of the things is he's just getting underrated for his size,

626
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:20.680
<v Speaker 3>and you know my feelings on that that if you're

627
00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:23.359
<v Speaker 3>a performer, baller's gonna ball and I don't really care

628
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:26.039
<v Speaker 3>what your size is. So Aeron Estrada is my pick

629
00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:29.160
<v Speaker 3>here is do a bit of everything, really talented as

630
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:30.000
<v Speaker 3>a youngster.

631
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Nice personally. If you want to take him, whatever, But

632
00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:34.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to skip over Iverson Castillano just because of

633
00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:36.880
<v Speaker 2>the rule five thing makes a little hairy. I did

634
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:39.599
<v Speaker 2>draft him again, I have been rastering him. If you

635
00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:41.920
<v Speaker 2>want to value him this year, it's got to be

636
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:43.839
<v Speaker 2>in a spot where you got to he's gonna be

637
00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:47.920
<v Speaker 2>a nothing burger to that much relief pitcher for you

638
00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:50.400
<v Speaker 2>for a season and then hope that in i don't

639
00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:52.279
<v Speaker 2>know a year or two years, you get a starter

640
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:53.759
<v Speaker 2>out of it. It's a good point, but I know

641
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:55.960
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of formats that just make him that

642
00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:58.160
<v Speaker 2>worth it. But I do like him in a sense

643
00:30:58.319 --> 00:31:01.079
<v Speaker 2>just as much as done near anyway b side this year,

644
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:03.240
<v Speaker 2>but I'm not going to draft. I'm kind of split

645
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:05.880
<v Speaker 2>and torn here between one of my guys and one

646
00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:08.640
<v Speaker 2>of your guys, So I'll just let my guy win

647
00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:11.359
<v Speaker 2>the tiebreaker. Here and I'll go with RJ. Shrek nice.

648
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:14.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I know he's a non roster invite

649
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:16.839
<v Speaker 2>this camp. Imagine he'll be getting a lot of decent

650
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:20.119
<v Speaker 2>run and outfield. I remember when we talked about him.

651
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:22.359
<v Speaker 2>I think this is just a guy who's got a

652
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:25.799
<v Speaker 2>real shot to carve out an MLB job. He's you know,

653
00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:28.440
<v Speaker 2>he might not put out put up the monster evs

654
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:30.039
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that, but when it comes to like

655
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:33.759
<v Speaker 2>batted ball shape, he's just like kind of primo getting

656
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:36.720
<v Speaker 2>the most out of his batted balls. So RJ. Shrek,

657
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:39.039
<v Speaker 2>I think that was a great get by the blue Jays,

658
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:40.640
<v Speaker 2>and you know they I kind of feel like the

659
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:43.640
<v Speaker 2>blue Jays are it's kind of wide open there right now.

660
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:46.119
<v Speaker 2>It feels like with a lot of their their farm,

661
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:48.920
<v Speaker 2>what's going on at the major league level, Like there

662
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:51.759
<v Speaker 2>could very well be a lot of jobs up for grabs,

663
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:54.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, next year or two and if they're going

664
00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:56.920
<v Speaker 2>to be kind of a whole new front office and

665
00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:58.960
<v Speaker 2>stuff might be in the cards. I don't know, but

666
00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:02.640
<v Speaker 2>RJ Shrek my favorite B side bat this offseason.

667
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:05.799
<v Speaker 3>So do you think Shrek can play center?

668
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:08.599
<v Speaker 2>I know he has some I think I haven't watched

669
00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:11.160
<v Speaker 2>enough defense to know for sure things. The gist that

670
00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:14.079
<v Speaker 2>I get from it all is like he's probably passable

671
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:16.640
<v Speaker 2>and serviceable and could play there from time to time.

672
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:18.680
<v Speaker 2>There's probably not where you want him all.

673
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:23.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I feel like that. The Santander signing for muddles

674
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:27.400
<v Speaker 3>the to me looking at their roster, just an in

675
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:31.039
<v Speaker 3>terms of opportunity, looks like a lot of corner outfield guys.

676
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:34.279
<v Speaker 3>You know, class A is the fastest, but I don't

677
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:37.920
<v Speaker 3>think he's a very good center fielder. Lit Berfedo, Alan Roden,

678
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:41.559
<v Speaker 3>Stuart Baroa, like all of those guys are corner guys

679
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:44.759
<v Speaker 3>to me. And that's on top of George Springer who's

680
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:48.359
<v Speaker 3>not going anywhere and Santander who's now signed for a while.

681
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:50.440
<v Speaker 3>And obviously there's some DH reps to go through too,

682
00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:53.000
<v Speaker 3>but it's not like their infield is that freed up either.

683
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:56.599
<v Speaker 3>I actually, in one of my drafts, I hovered between RJ.

684
00:32:56.720 --> 00:32:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Shrek and Alan Roaden, one of the other guys that's

685
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:03.119
<v Speaker 3>like Sue, similar kind of player, and I went Rodent

686
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:06.240
<v Speaker 3>just because the bat to ball skills for Roden, I

687
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:07.880
<v Speaker 3>think or a touch better.

688
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:10.000
<v Speaker 2>I think he's probably had a Shrek in like the

689
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:11.720
<v Speaker 2>sort of pecking order right now too.

690
00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:13.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And so I mean that's the thing though, is like,

691
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:16.519
<v Speaker 3>how are these guys going to get reps? I think

692
00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:19.279
<v Speaker 3>this year it seems unlikely either of them will get

693
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:21.960
<v Speaker 3>a lot of run. Definitely think Shrek as a talent

694
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.680
<v Speaker 3>and his ability to get under a ball and hit

695
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:26.119
<v Speaker 3>it in the air no matter where it is, Like

696
00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:28.519
<v Speaker 3>we talked about that, that's a fricking superpower and he's

697
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:31.559
<v Speaker 3>so good at it. Yeah, okay, let's go. Yeah, let's

698
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:34.480
<v Speaker 3>go back over to arms. And I mentioned this at

699
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:36.920
<v Speaker 3>the outset, but Chad Patrick is my second one I

700
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:37.720
<v Speaker 3>want to highlight here.

701
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:38.960
<v Speaker 2>That was my tie here.

702
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:44.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just he popped on was at the zips

703
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:47.799
<v Speaker 3>list where he was top seventy five or something for him?

704
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:49.960
<v Speaker 3>Am I making that up now? I'm saying that I

705
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:52.279
<v Speaker 3>can't remember where I saw this or was that also

706
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:54.599
<v Speaker 3>the robo scout thing might have been that, Yeah, I

707
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:56.799
<v Speaker 3>think that was the robo Scout one as well. I

708
00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:59.240
<v Speaker 3>don't think he was on the zip's top one hundred anyway.

709
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:02.480
<v Speaker 3>I think that Patrick is another one that he just

710
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:06.960
<v Speaker 3>led the International League in strikeouts, and that is I

711
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:10.239
<v Speaker 3>think we underrate how difficult that is to do both

712
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:12.639
<v Speaker 3>in the combination of the sheer quantity of innings that

713
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:15.079
<v Speaker 3>you have to throw, which I love having a platform

714
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:18.400
<v Speaker 3>that says your actual starter quality pitcher that can last

715
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:20.880
<v Speaker 3>deep into a game and do it for a whole season.

716
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:24.920
<v Speaker 3>It also showcases the way his arsenal actually plays and

717
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:27.880
<v Speaker 3>diving into the stat cast it's available in Triple A. Again,

718
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:32.199
<v Speaker 3>like Patrick showed that all of his arsenal is playable

719
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:36.760
<v Speaker 3>at the Triple A level, and especially that cutter first arsenal.

720
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:40.400
<v Speaker 3>Like I think he's he's adopted the kind of modern

721
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:43.639
<v Speaker 3>fastball heavy approach sort of. I think maybe lance Lynn

722
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:45.920
<v Speaker 3>kind of pioneered this where he throws, you know, ninety

723
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.559
<v Speaker 3>percent fastballs, but it's actually three completely distinct shapes and

724
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:52.199
<v Speaker 3>it's actually three separate pitches and is kind of a

725
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:55.039
<v Speaker 3>nightmare for hitters to know which of these fast pitches

726
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:58.440
<v Speaker 3>and which direction they're going, And Patrick does that exceptionally well.

727
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:01.239
<v Speaker 3>Also has a great change up. I mean, like, I

728
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:04.119
<v Speaker 3>just think that this arsenal is underrated because it's not

729
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:07.039
<v Speaker 3>ninety eight plus from alrighty, but we've seen that it's

730
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:10.239
<v Speaker 3>super effective. I think the numbers back that up and

731
00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:13.159
<v Speaker 3>the visual evaluation does as well, and unlike some of

732
00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:15.280
<v Speaker 3>these other picks, I do think there's a world in

733
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:18.639
<v Speaker 3>which he gets the opportunity to pitch significant innings this year,

734
00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:21.480
<v Speaker 3>and I'm super excited to see it. So Chad Patrick's

735
00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:23.960
<v Speaker 3>my other kind of top tier guy I wanted to highlight.

736
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:26.679
<v Speaker 2>I think I've drafted him three times this off season,

737
00:35:26.960 --> 00:35:29.360
<v Speaker 2>hoping to get some utility out of him right away

738
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:32.320
<v Speaker 2>this season. Right, I think that's very much on the table.

739
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Who do you think will get Who do you think

740
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:37.760
<v Speaker 2>gets a shot first, Logan Henderson or Chad Patrick Patrick?

741
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:39.519
<v Speaker 3>I think, I mean he's just higher up in the

742
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:43.199
<v Speaker 3>pecking order. And look, I love Logan Henderson, you know it, everybody.

743
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:45.480
<v Speaker 3>I tried to yell about it so much last year,

744
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:48.679
<v Speaker 3>and were it not for his industry injury, I think

745
00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:51.760
<v Speaker 3>Logan Henderson might be ahead in that pecking order. But

746
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:54.679
<v Speaker 3>just the amount of innings that Patrick threw and the

747
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:57.280
<v Speaker 3>platform that he gave him, Like, I think that they

748
00:35:57.400 --> 00:35:59.320
<v Speaker 3>are going to see what Patrick has if they need

749
00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:01.440
<v Speaker 3>to fill in. I also love Casey Hunt in that

750
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:03.639
<v Speaker 3>same kind of like those three to me, or the

751
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:07.440
<v Speaker 3>three most exciting arms for the Brewers, and that is

752
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:10.280
<v Speaker 3>definitely shaded on Jacob Misrawski. You know, I would not

753
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:14.320
<v Speaker 3>be surprised to see those three in the Milwaukee rotation

754
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:15.719
<v Speaker 3>for a long time to come.

755
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my next one here's gonna be a young arm

756
00:36:18.199 --> 00:36:20.400
<v Speaker 2>or young bat, and both of them. I don't know

757
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:22.119
<v Speaker 2>if we would sat down and done this a month

758
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:24.480
<v Speaker 2>ago or something like that, before my drafts, I probably

759
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:26.599
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have these guys up here. But trying to stay

760
00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:28.400
<v Speaker 2>true to what I did when I sat down at

761
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:31.280
<v Speaker 2>the draft table, right, And I'm kind of surprised that

762
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:34.920
<v Speaker 2>I ended up going with both these guys before a

763
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:38.360
<v Speaker 2>couple more advanced, older arms and bats. But let's go

764
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:41.159
<v Speaker 2>with I'm gonna go with Jose or being a.

765
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:43.199
<v Speaker 3>Rays interesting interesting, like.

766
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I've been sitting there with with like him at the

767
00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:49.239
<v Speaker 2>top of my pitching que and Jake Miller and like

768
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:54.159
<v Speaker 2>Will Johnston some of your guys. And maybe it's because

769
00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:56.280
<v Speaker 2>it's later in drafts or whatever it might be, or

770
00:36:56.280 --> 00:36:59.199
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's situational to the team, but I've been taking

771
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:01.360
<v Speaker 2>the kind of the home run more of a home

772
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:04.320
<v Speaker 2>run swing and taking Urbina over those guys, So I

773
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:06.360
<v Speaker 2>feel like I gotta keep it real and do it here.

774
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:09.559
<v Speaker 2>So Jose, being a young arm in the raised system,

775
00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:12.320
<v Speaker 2>I like the look of a lot. Has a really hard, firm,

776
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:15.039
<v Speaker 2>good looking slider, good looking fastball. He's a young kid

777
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:17.800
<v Speaker 2>who went through like a crazy growth spurt last year

778
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:20.559
<v Speaker 2>or two years. Big frame, big frame that you can

779
00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:22.920
<v Speaker 2>still fill out, I think, and uh yeah, just going

780
00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:24.480
<v Speaker 2>for a bit of a boom here.

781
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:26.519
<v Speaker 3>And so I know that there are a couple of

782
00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:28.440
<v Speaker 3>other folks that like him. I think he's pretty high

783
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:32.639
<v Speaker 3>up in Chris Klegg's latest list, So you're you're far

784
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:35.639
<v Speaker 3>from alone on this one. I looked long and hard

785
00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:38.639
<v Speaker 3>at him in one of my drafts because I, you know,

786
00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:41.199
<v Speaker 3>you shouted him and we had talked about him, and

787
00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:44.320
<v Speaker 3>I hadn't watched him much, and man, I like didn't

788
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:46.000
<v Speaker 3>see it, you know what I mean, Like it's this

789
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:48.599
<v Speaker 3>is just one of these guys that why can't he

790
00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:52.239
<v Speaker 3>punch anybody out if the stuff is so good? And yeah,

791
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:55.280
<v Speaker 3>he's young, but like even on the complex, he's punching

792
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:58.320
<v Speaker 3>out eight per nine and walking almost five per nine,

793
00:37:58.440 --> 00:37:59.480
<v Speaker 3>and that's something.

794
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:01.480
<v Speaker 2>He knows how to pitch very well. Play Yet yeah,

795
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

796
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:03.719
<v Speaker 3>I know we talked about that when we when we

797
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:05.280
<v Speaker 3>did the Al East episode.

798
00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:07.880
<v Speaker 2>But well, I mean, if you think about last year, Matt,

799
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:10.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, obviously I drafted arms in our thing, but

800
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:12.480
<v Speaker 2>I drafted a lot of the wrong ones, and a

801
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:14.079
<v Speaker 2>lot of the guys that I just had a little

802
00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:16.239
<v Speaker 2>young guys that I had a little look at were

803
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:18.599
<v Speaker 2>the ones that blew up, like Gary Gale Hill and

804
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:21.280
<v Speaker 2>some others. So maybe it's dumb, but I don't want

805
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:23.000
<v Speaker 2>to make that mistake again. So I'm going to go

806
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:25.320
<v Speaker 2>with the guy that I thought was the most exciting

807
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:29.119
<v Speaker 2>young teenage got down at a ball b sider for

808
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:30.840
<v Speaker 2>me this year, and that was Urbina.

809
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:33.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah all right, all right, go back over to the

810
00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:36.039
<v Speaker 3>hitter side for me, and this is the guy that

811
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:39.400
<v Speaker 3>we both really really like. So no surprise, I'm gonna

812
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:42.199
<v Speaker 3>highlight Logan Wagner here. Logan Wagner is and other of

813
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:44.199
<v Speaker 3>these guys that I think has a ton of talent.

814
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:47.320
<v Speaker 3>He's basically done nothing but Rake when he's on the field.

815
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:49.840
<v Speaker 3>He just hasn't been on the field that much. And

816
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:52.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know whether it's the like I just like

817
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:56.159
<v Speaker 3>seeing such that top tier performance, but he's in this

818
00:38:56.360 --> 00:38:59.400
<v Speaker 3>similar bucket to me. As an Emmanuel Rodriguez chased the

819
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:04.239
<v Speaker 3>latter like guys that have these incredible performance that they've

820
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:06.480
<v Speaker 3>showed when they've been on the field, but it's starting

821
00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:09.800
<v Speaker 3>to get worrisome how little they're on the field. While

822
00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:14.119
<v Speaker 3>my worry about him is twofold one that he keeps

823
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:16.840
<v Speaker 3>moving down the defensive spectrum. You know, he came in

824
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:18.920
<v Speaker 3>as a shortstop and it was third base, and I

825
00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:21.400
<v Speaker 3>think now he's played some first and left and who

826
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:23.280
<v Speaker 3>knows if he's got a defensive home and so that

827
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:26.079
<v Speaker 3>might put additional pressure on the bat. But I also

828
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:30.199
<v Speaker 3>worry that these injuries are like he is a little

829
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:33.199
<v Speaker 3>more injury prone and that might eat into his viability

830
00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:37.000
<v Speaker 3>as a fantasy player as well. But watching him, I

831
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:41.039
<v Speaker 3>really struggled to pick knits with the swing, with the performance,

832
00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:45.360
<v Speaker 3>and just to me, I feel like he is massively underrated. Still.

833
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:47.519
<v Speaker 3>We were literally talking about it in the discord and

834
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:49.400
<v Speaker 3>then one of my buddies in the draft saw it

835
00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:51.599
<v Speaker 3>and just took him, and I was totally plad I

836
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:53.599
<v Speaker 3>got taking in with one of my last picks because

837
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:55.920
<v Speaker 3>of course nobody's on him still, and he saw it

838
00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:57.440
<v Speaker 3>and was like, oh yeah, I'm gonna take a look

839
00:39:57.440 --> 00:39:59.159
<v Speaker 3>at Wagner. I was like, all right, yeah, fair, fair,

840
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:02.960
<v Speaker 3>so logan for me, he's a top tier B side bat.

841
00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:06.639
<v Speaker 3>I would be shocked if he does not rise significantly

842
00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:07.800
<v Speaker 3>in popularity this year.

843
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:10.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just stay on the field. But he's definitely there's

844
00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:13.760
<v Speaker 2>a clump of young switch hitters that I am just like,

845
00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:17.039
<v Speaker 2>have been enamored with and watching of late, and he's

846
00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:20.599
<v Speaker 2>definitely at the top of that list. For me, I'll

847
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:24.039
<v Speaker 2>go with the batman that I was between last pick

848
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:26.960
<v Speaker 2>and again, I'm kind of surprised that I find myself

849
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:30.039
<v Speaker 2>going him over some of the older, more advanced bats

850
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:32.760
<v Speaker 2>that we talked about this offseason. But Liz Bell Diez,

851
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:35.119
<v Speaker 2>oh love that one. I just think I don't know.

852
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:38.159
<v Speaker 2>I just liked the look of his technique and his

853
00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:41.440
<v Speaker 2>swing so much. It's so easy and it's so simple,

854
00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:43.840
<v Speaker 2>and he really turned it on the back half of

855
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:46.599
<v Speaker 2>last year as what eighteen year old and a ball.

856
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:50.360
<v Speaker 2>And maybe it's because in some spots I've been chasing

857
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:52.400
<v Speaker 2>after power a little bit more because I didn't. I

858
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:55.639
<v Speaker 2>was just feeling a little white there and my minor list.

859
00:40:55.679 --> 00:40:59.159
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I find myself I've popped him several times

860
00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:02.320
<v Speaker 2>in drafts last season. So Lizbell, Diaz will be my

861
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:05.199
<v Speaker 2>second hitter, third or third hitter, second second hitter.

862
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:07.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, great pick. And he's somebody that I've been

863
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:11.719
<v Speaker 3>targeting in trades where I'm trying to consolidate or get

864
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:13.880
<v Speaker 3>a get a kind of young bat throw in that

865
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:16.519
<v Speaker 3>I think is a little underrated. But for all reasons

866
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:19.320
<v Speaker 3>you said, like he has got some real power as

867
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:23.400
<v Speaker 3>a young guy, and I think a decent hit tool too,

868
00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:25.880
<v Speaker 3>Like it's nothing to sneeze at as an eighteen year

869
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:28.760
<v Speaker 3>old and full season ball to have an eighteen percent

870
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:31.760
<v Speaker 3>k rate, like, especially when it comes with significant power,

871
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:34.400
<v Speaker 3>like that's pretty rare. So I'm I'm a big, big

872
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:36.199
<v Speaker 3>fan of his two. I think this is a great pick.

873
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:37.920
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of those spots where I've gotten

874
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:40.639
<v Speaker 2>him too, I've paired it with a PJ. Orlando pick.

875
00:41:41.559 --> 00:41:45.000
<v Speaker 2>He's he's my most drafted first year player guy so far.

876
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:48.599
<v Speaker 2>And it's you know, obviously Orlando's left handed, Diaz is

877
00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:51.639
<v Speaker 2>right handed. But for me, I was chatting about this

878
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:53.280
<v Speaker 2>the other day, it's like, if I'm going to make

879
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:56.519
<v Speaker 2>a play like a power hitter, you know, a potential

880
00:41:56.800 --> 00:42:00.480
<v Speaker 2>sixty seventy kind of guy or hope or dream I

881
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:02.360
<v Speaker 2>want to do that on a guy that I find

882
00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:07.039
<v Speaker 2>to just be like mechanically and technique wise just super impressive.

883
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:09.159
<v Speaker 2>And both of those guys are that to me. So

884
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:12.840
<v Speaker 2>I found myself like taking Orlando earlier in an FYP

885
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:16.519
<v Speaker 2>first year players slash supplemental and then like down the

886
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:18.719
<v Speaker 2>road just as like a little backup, like, yeah, I'll

887
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:20.880
<v Speaker 2>take DS too. I have a couple of young power

888
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:21.800
<v Speaker 2>guys to dream on.

889
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:25.679
<v Speaker 3>Just on Orlando. I did see in Longen Higgins right

890
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:28.360
<v Speaker 3>up on him. I think he might have talked about

891
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:29.719
<v Speaker 3>him as a pic to click or maybe it was

892
00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:32.199
<v Speaker 3>in the top one hundred chap that he did this week,

893
00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:36.039
<v Speaker 3>but he noted something about the swing mechanics for Orlando

894
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:40.800
<v Speaker 3>that he's like really still almost unnaturally so and wondered

895
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:42.440
<v Speaker 3>if a pro program.

896
00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:45.519
<v Speaker 2>He's just standing there and just hitting monsters, dude.

897
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:48.159
<v Speaker 3>And I wondered if a pro program gives him a

898
00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:51.840
<v Speaker 3>little more rhythm, a little bit of like movement fluidity

899
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:54.159
<v Speaker 3>to the thing that I mean, he dropped down for

900
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:56.559
<v Speaker 3>a reason, right Like there are teams that were kind

901
00:42:56.559 --> 00:42:58.760
<v Speaker 3>of scared off by the kind of what he showed

902
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:01.400
<v Speaker 3>because he came into the year the year as like

903
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:03.960
<v Speaker 3>in talks right up there with some of the top

904
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:06.239
<v Speaker 3>prep guys, right as like this might be a top

905
00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:06.800
<v Speaker 3>five pick.

906
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:09.440
<v Speaker 2>He's like forever been the number one prep guy from

907
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:12.400
<v Speaker 2>his class, and he's still I number one guy. And

908
00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:15.119
<v Speaker 2>I just did like some back issues and was a

909
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:18.239
<v Speaker 2>little hurt and didn't have a super impressive senior year

910
00:43:18.239 --> 00:43:20.519
<v Speaker 2>of high school, I guess, And I think that that's

911
00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:24.119
<v Speaker 2>that's like people are questioning like his his athleticism or

912
00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:26.440
<v Speaker 2>his speed, or his ability to stick in the outfield

913
00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:28.920
<v Speaker 2>or something that. To me, that's like would you measure

914
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:32.719
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Alvarez the same way? Like that's not the ruler

915
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:35.880
<v Speaker 2>to use for a guy like this. You're looking for power,

916
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:38.800
<v Speaker 2>that's you're looking for home runs. And I think he's

917
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:40.920
<v Speaker 2>a decent hitter too, where potentially can be a decent

918
00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:42.800
<v Speaker 2>hitter too, And I just find him to be as

919
00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:45.039
<v Speaker 2>just the biggest deal this year. He's going in like

920
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:49.079
<v Speaker 2>the pick thirty forty and to me, obviously different strokes

921
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:51.599
<v Speaker 2>for different folks, but to me, that's that's wild. I'm

922
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:52.239
<v Speaker 2>all over it.

923
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:55.639
<v Speaker 3>Cool. Well, that's good, good upside bet for sure. Let's

924
00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:59.400
<v Speaker 3>stay on the hitter side still and another guy that

925
00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:02.840
<v Speaker 3>I've just being drawn to that I don't see it

926
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:06.000
<v Speaker 3>a lot of love is Ricardo Olivar. He's not someone

927
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:08.519
<v Speaker 3>that I've ended up in any of my supplemental drafts

928
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:12.039
<v Speaker 3>or off season drafts, but I've traded for him once

929
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:14.320
<v Speaker 3>and have asked after him a couple of times in

930
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:17.000
<v Speaker 3>places as a throw in or a balancer in trade.

931
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:18.800
<v Speaker 3>I think he's another one that's getting a little bit

932
00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:23.039
<v Speaker 3>underrated in that it's a pretty deep quality catching class

933
00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:25.519
<v Speaker 3>in the minor leagues generally, Like people have been talking

934
00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:27.880
<v Speaker 3>about how overall the talent might be down a bit,

935
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:30.960
<v Speaker 3>but I think the catching talent is pretty high. He

936
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:33.840
<v Speaker 3>catches and plays the outfield so has a bit of

937
00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:36.800
<v Speaker 3>that Swiss Army knife flexibility. But I think is a really,

938
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:41.360
<v Speaker 3>really good hitter and was really surprised to see Zips

939
00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:44.559
<v Speaker 3>very very much agreed projected him if they plopped him

940
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:47.719
<v Speaker 3>down in the middle of Minnesota's lineup, that he thinks

941
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:50.119
<v Speaker 3>he would be a slightly better than league average bat

942
00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:53.920
<v Speaker 3>right now, so one oh two WRC plus Steamer generally

943
00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:56.719
<v Speaker 3>agrees that an eighty nine WRC plus and for twenty

944
00:44:56.719 --> 00:45:00.480
<v Speaker 3>three year old that hasn't sniffed triple A yet, really

945
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:02.280
<v Speaker 3>just got a cup of coffee in double A. That

946
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:06.039
<v Speaker 3>is a very very impressive translation. Finding myself drawn back

947
00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:08.239
<v Speaker 3>to him, I think when I initially did my pref list,

948
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:10.239
<v Speaker 3>he was more around like nine or ten, but I

949
00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:12.880
<v Speaker 3>kept asking after him in trades or having a high

950
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:16.440
<v Speaker 3>up on my queue in in drafts. So Ricardo Olivar

951
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:20.519
<v Speaker 3>to me is one that is super super underrated, and

952
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:23.679
<v Speaker 3>I would give him a long, long look and ask

953
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:25.639
<v Speaker 3>for him as a throwing in trade because you know,

954
00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:29.159
<v Speaker 3>he's at what four percent now, like that's nothing at

955
00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:29.599
<v Speaker 3>this point.

956
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I kind of had a feeling you take him here,

957
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:35.639
<v Speaker 2>I will go with I guess what is my third

958
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:38.719
<v Speaker 2>favorite B side that this last season in tin Tawa.

959
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:41.679
<v Speaker 2>Nice Im. It's snagging him a lot, as you know,

960
00:45:41.760 --> 00:45:45.360
<v Speaker 2>extending hopefully extending my MLB bench in some spots. He's

961
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:48.639
<v Speaker 2>got eligibility at first base and second base out the gates.

962
00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:50.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, hopefully he's a guy who, you know, maybe

963
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:52.400
<v Speaker 2>he gets a shot as a little bit of a

964
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:54.960
<v Speaker 2>utility bench guy and he can like run with it

965
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:57.920
<v Speaker 2>a little bit, and maybe he's got some exciting offensive appeal.

966
00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:01.599
<v Speaker 2>I think he's very strong. I know the evs aren't

967
00:46:01.639 --> 00:46:03.880
<v Speaker 2>top of the scale, but as we talked about, our

968
00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:06.119
<v Speaker 2>guy's choked up two inches on the bad every time

969
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:09.559
<v Speaker 2>he's up there and still lacing mine drafts everywhere and stuff.

970
00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:12.960
<v Speaker 2>But uh, yeah, I liked Allan. Hopefully I don't know

971
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:15.559
<v Speaker 2>how many PAS he might get this season, but I'm

972
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:17.000
<v Speaker 2>hoping for as many as possible.

973
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:19.360
<v Speaker 3>Agreed with you, you know, coming in, Like we talked

974
00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:21.119
<v Speaker 3>about this, he was one of my favorite bats coming

975
00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:23.199
<v Speaker 3>in as well, a co sign from both of us,

976
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:26.039
<v Speaker 3>and still remains fairly high up on mine. But I

977
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:29.880
<v Speaker 3>found as I came into drafts, I kept pushing other

978
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:32.039
<v Speaker 3>people in front of him. And I think part of

979
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:35.599
<v Speaker 3>this was that I don't know if I had given

980
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:38.400
<v Speaker 3>enough weight to the offensive environments that he played in.

981
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:41.639
<v Speaker 3>His home park is one of the most insane parks

982
00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:46.440
<v Speaker 3>in all of baseball, and while the performance was undoubtedly great,

983
00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:49.280
<v Speaker 3>he's done nothing but hit all throughout his minor league career.

984
00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:53.880
<v Speaker 3>I think that Arizona's affiliates are almost to he all

985
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:58.119
<v Speaker 3>of them really really positive offensive environments. And when I

986
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:01.840
<v Speaker 3>saw the major league translation, so when Steamer and Zips

987
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:05.159
<v Speaker 3>came out, they were all projecting him pretty low and

988
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:07.960
<v Speaker 3>like low enough that it's not really playable even if

989
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:10.440
<v Speaker 3>he was a plus defender up the middle. And I

990
00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:14.320
<v Speaker 3>think he is a playable defender like second, third, laugh

991
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:16.639
<v Speaker 3>and can play first and right, like you could put

992
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:19.280
<v Speaker 3>him in kind of the four or five lower parts

993
00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:21.840
<v Speaker 3>of the defensive spectrum and he'd be okay. He really

994
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:24.199
<v Speaker 3>needs his bat to carry him, and I'm not I

995
00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:27.239
<v Speaker 3>think I wasn't in my evaluation putting enough weight on

996
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:29.440
<v Speaker 3>the offensive environment was looking a bit too much at

997
00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:32.000
<v Speaker 3>the surface stats for him. Still like him, and still

998
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:35.039
<v Speaker 3>think there's a path to playing time and to fantasy success,

999
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:38.519
<v Speaker 3>but the minor league kind of translations I think definitely

1000
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:41.119
<v Speaker 3>dampen my enthusiasm for Tala just a bit. It's been

1001
00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:44.360
<v Speaker 3>hard now there's just a lot of ways to go.

1002
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:47.159
<v Speaker 3>Looking at my list here, we talked a little bit

1003
00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:50.960
<v Speaker 3>about Brandon Garcia and Will Johnson. We were recording when

1004
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:53.440
<v Speaker 3>we talked about Johnson, right, yeah, okay, So we've touched

1005
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:56.000
<v Speaker 3>on those guys. You know, Big co sign on those dudes.

1006
00:47:56.039 --> 00:47:58.639
<v Speaker 3>I think they're really good. Lucas Braun is up there

1007
00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:01.960
<v Speaker 3>for me. I think just every model that comes out

1008
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:04.039
<v Speaker 3>like he gets noted as a guy that had an

1009
00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:08.599
<v Speaker 3>underrated season, And again I think there are likely to

1010
00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:11.679
<v Speaker 3>be some innings available for the Braves, And I don't

1011
00:48:11.719 --> 00:48:15.079
<v Speaker 3>really think it's clear whether Kristin Walderp or A. J.

1012
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:18.119
<v Speaker 3>Smiths Shovor is better than Lucas Braun. They're certainly more

1013
00:48:18.199 --> 00:48:22.000
<v Speaker 3>highly regarded. Maybe their top end outcomes are better, but

1014
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:24.239
<v Speaker 3>I think Lucas Brown has been better in the minor

1015
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:26.320
<v Speaker 3>leagues and I put a lot of weight into that.

1016
00:48:26.440 --> 00:48:29.559
<v Speaker 3>So he's one that I definitely would consider here. But

1017
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:31.960
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to go like farther down the minor leagues

1018
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:33.840
<v Speaker 3>here because a lot of the guys that I gravitate

1019
00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:37.079
<v Speaker 3>towards are in Triple A or Double A and nearer

1020
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:39.400
<v Speaker 3>to the big leagues. But it's fun kind of sticking

1021
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:41.840
<v Speaker 3>out those positions on some of the ones lower down

1022
00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:43.400
<v Speaker 3>in the minor leagues. And so I was going to

1023
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:45.199
<v Speaker 3>pick a couple of pick from a couple of A

1024
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:47.679
<v Speaker 3>ball guys here, and when push came to chev, I

1025
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:50.000
<v Speaker 3>didn't roster either of these guys in any of my

1026
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:53.480
<v Speaker 3>fypds or a supplemental draft, just because proximity I think

1027
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:55.400
<v Speaker 3>matters a lot you should play in for all of

1028
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:58.719
<v Speaker 3>you guys too. But gotta shout Hose Gonzalez again. That guy.

1029
00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:01.800
<v Speaker 3>He turned in such an incredible season. I think the

1030
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:05.760
<v Speaker 3>stuff is sweet. He bends it well, he's got great command,

1031
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:11.039
<v Speaker 3>just dominated hitters at low A for the Rangers, and well,

1032
00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:13.280
<v Speaker 3>the Rangers are kind of a stacked tom. They got

1033
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:15.159
<v Speaker 3>a lot of arms that I'd say are ahead of him.

1034
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:18.320
<v Speaker 3>He still has time to prove that what he did

1035
00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:21.440
<v Speaker 3>at a ball is going to succeed at the higher levels.

1036
00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:23.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm of the belief that it is definitely going to

1037
00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:27.079
<v Speaker 3>and it was pretty hard for me not to draft

1038
00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:29.360
<v Speaker 3>him in a couple of places. The one team that

1039
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:31.719
<v Speaker 3>I really really hovered over for a long time is

1040
00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:35.480
<v Speaker 3>a really competitive team, and I don't really have innings

1041
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:37.880
<v Speaker 3>to spare at the major league level or the near

1042
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:39.960
<v Speaker 3>major league level, So I'm trying to walk this line

1043
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:42.599
<v Speaker 3>of like having some low really low in the minors

1044
00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:46.719
<v Speaker 3>upside shots with my old ass pitching staff and lineup

1045
00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:49.800
<v Speaker 3>in the major leagues. And so he was really tempting

1046
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:51.840
<v Speaker 3>to me in that league, but I think I went

1047
00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:54.679
<v Speaker 3>for a more seasoned arm. But I could see myself

1048
00:49:54.679 --> 00:49:57.559
<v Speaker 3>flipping on that, like in the first week, because I

1049
00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:01.360
<v Speaker 3>really almost took Kose Gonzalez. Gonzalez is my favorite A

1050
00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:03.760
<v Speaker 3>ball arm that isn't one of the very very tippy

1051
00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:06.599
<v Speaker 3>top pretty boys, and performance wise he was right up

1052
00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:09.920
<v Speaker 3>there with Sikora Susanna like any of the top A

1053
00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:12.440
<v Speaker 3>ball guys like Juse Gonzalez was right freaking there.

1054
00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:15.119
<v Speaker 2>Ye, no, I agree. I think he's yeah, been at

1055
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:18.559
<v Speaker 2>two percent still, you know at this junker maybe the

1056
00:50:18.599 --> 00:50:21.920
<v Speaker 2>best B side call from us this off season that

1057
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:26.159
<v Speaker 2>isn't really getting much love in drafts. Maybe it's debatables,

1058
00:50:26.199 --> 00:50:29.639
<v Speaker 2>but one of them for sure. Yeah, all right, I

1059
00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:34.400
<v Speaker 2>am getting real sick of loser hitters named Jake Miller.

1060
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:37.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's probably pretty maybe a yawner pick for

1061
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:41.000
<v Speaker 2>us here, but yeah, Jake Miller, I'll go with, Yeah,

1062
00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:44.480
<v Speaker 2>should we just or should we just skip Jake Miller

1063
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:44.880
<v Speaker 2>and I take.

1064
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:47.320
<v Speaker 3>Somebody talked about him a lot, and I co signed

1065
00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:49.719
<v Speaker 3>like I drafted him and with my first pick in

1066
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:51.519
<v Speaker 3>one of my leagues too, So like.

1067
00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:54.320
<v Speaker 2>I'll skip him. I like him just as much as

1068
00:50:54.440 --> 00:50:56.800
<v Speaker 2>you know any B side arm more or less. I

1069
00:50:56.800 --> 00:50:59.320
<v Speaker 2>gotta get Will Johnston on the list here. Several of

1070
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:02.039
<v Speaker 2>my drafts that I ended. He's been the guy like

1071
00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:04.360
<v Speaker 2>that I would have taken next, so I haven't taken

1072
00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:07.119
<v Speaker 2>it yet, but he's been real close. But yeah, like

1073
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:10.360
<v Speaker 2>I said, I know, as far as age and experience

1074
00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:13.400
<v Speaker 2>and level and production at the level, like he and

1075
00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:17.079
<v Speaker 2>Miller are basically the same guy, just very different pictures,

1076
00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:20.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, Like we talked about, I like Johnson's over

1077
00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:22.719
<v Speaker 2>the top delivery, more over the top delivery. I like

1078
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:27.559
<v Speaker 2>his arsenal. He was absolutely just destroying high at the

1079
00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:29.760
<v Speaker 2>end of his run there and then shout out pretty

1080
00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:31.960
<v Speaker 2>well as one taste of double A. So I think

1081
00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:35.320
<v Speaker 2>and at two percent still, I think, still not really

1082
00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:36.159
<v Speaker 2>getting the love.

1083
00:51:36.519 --> 00:51:38.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm one of those two percent though I took him

1084
00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:40.880
<v Speaker 3>in one of those one of those drafts I would say,

1085
00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:43.159
<v Speaker 3>according to most people, way too early, but I was

1086
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.400
<v Speaker 3>pumped to get him, like the third or fourth round

1087
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:47.880
<v Speaker 3>something like that. So, and that's a league that you

1088
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:49.320
<v Speaker 3>and I are going to talk about at some point,

1089
00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:53.480
<v Speaker 3>because with trades and offseason moves and the way that

1090
00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:55.800
<v Speaker 3>league works, you can be way over right up until

1091
00:51:55.840 --> 00:51:59.199
<v Speaker 3>opening day. I'm like twelve prospects over my limit. So

1092
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:01.039
<v Speaker 3>I think you and I are going to talk about

1093
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:04.199
<v Speaker 3>helping me trim that roster down. You can talk me

1094
00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:06.360
<v Speaker 3>off the ledge on some of them, but Johnson firmly

1095
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:09.239
<v Speaker 3>lower man on that list. I'm almost positive, so big

1096
00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:11.840
<v Speaker 3>co sign here. All right, there's a bunch of guys

1097
00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:14.719
<v Speaker 3>that I still want to talk about. Okay, I'll actually

1098
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:18.519
<v Speaker 3>take one of Nate's guy's first here, Austin Overn. You

1099
00:52:18.559 --> 00:52:21.679
<v Speaker 3>and I have talked about a bit. I wasn't super

1100
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:24.920
<v Speaker 3>familiar with his game before you took him in the

1101
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:26.800
<v Speaker 3>B side. I watched him a little bit, but like

1102
00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:30.400
<v Speaker 3>hadn't dived super deep, probably because my favorite B side

1103
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:33.079
<v Speaker 3>guy was Aaron Estrada in the same organization. So I

1104
00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:35.159
<v Speaker 3>was like, no, I'm not going to pick anybody else.

1105
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:37.920
<v Speaker 3>But I looked a little bit more into Baltimore's Austin

1106
00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:42.480
<v Speaker 3>Overn and was really impressed. He wasn't that good in college.

1107
00:52:42.519 --> 00:52:45.199
<v Speaker 3>He was also a football player, and so I think

1108
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:48.440
<v Speaker 3>the reps there are he's like kind of undercook, but

1109
00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:51.840
<v Speaker 3>for that, he was really good in his pro debut.

1110
00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:55.480
<v Speaker 3>The reports on his defense are that it's plus in

1111
00:52:55.760 --> 00:52:59.639
<v Speaker 3>center field, and he's shown that he can make that

1112
00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:03.280
<v Speaker 3>speed work on the bases as well. I'm again forgetting

1113
00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:06.480
<v Speaker 3>which projection system. I think it was Zips just loved him.

1114
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:09.519
<v Speaker 3>And anytime you see those big time outliers like you

1115
00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:11.559
<v Speaker 3>take up with a bit of grain assault. Sometimes it's

1116
00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:14.920
<v Speaker 3>a small sample, but usually they regress the small sample

1117
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:18.239
<v Speaker 3>performers pretty hard. So when you do get one like that,

1118
00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:20.239
<v Speaker 3>I think you just pay a little more attention. And

1119
00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:21.599
<v Speaker 3>I went back and looked at the tape and I

1120
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:23.840
<v Speaker 3>kind of I see, like the scouty view of it too,

1121
00:53:23.960 --> 00:53:27.679
<v Speaker 3>that he's fast, he's strong, he made decent contact with

1122
00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:32.039
<v Speaker 3>the baseball, and way underrated, especially for your rotor leagues.

1123
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:33.480
<v Speaker 3>I think there are some leagues where I'd be a

1124
00:53:33.519 --> 00:53:36.599
<v Speaker 3>little skeptical about rostering him, But if stolen bases matter

1125
00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:41.880
<v Speaker 3>and average matters, I think he's like criminally underrated in

1126
00:53:41.920 --> 00:53:45.239
<v Speaker 3>the FYPD class and don't really understand why he's not

1127
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:48.440
<v Speaker 3>like in the top twenty or so. Again, huge air

1128
00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:51.719
<v Speaker 3>bars around this, But for fantasy purposes, man, I think

1129
00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:54.559
<v Speaker 3>he's he's a steal where he's going, so I think

1130
00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:57.119
<v Speaker 3>over and should get a lot more love than he's getting.

1131
00:53:57.360 --> 00:53:59.800
<v Speaker 3>And I did find myself rostering him in one place.

1132
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:01.440
<v Speaker 3>We'll see if he sticks. He's one of the ones

1133
00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:03.280
<v Speaker 3>that might be on the cutlist. In that roster. But

1134
00:54:03.400 --> 00:54:06.000
<v Speaker 3>I was intrigued enough to see to pay special attention

1135
00:54:06.039 --> 00:54:08.199
<v Speaker 3>in spring training and watch him a little closer. So

1136
00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:10.639
<v Speaker 3>Austin over and I was great pick Nate Handy.

1137
00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I did see somebody got him in my RAS

1138
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:16.679
<v Speaker 2>thirty draft. I saw maybe in like the middle of

1139
00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:20.440
<v Speaker 2>our supplemental and first year players back draft there. Yeah,

1140
00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:23.199
<v Speaker 2>he's at four percent, had some fans out there. I'm

1141
00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:25.360
<v Speaker 2>just I'm not going to take either of these two guys,

1142
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:27.639
<v Speaker 2>but I'm gonna mention Will Simpson and Idol Camp. I

1143
00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:30.960
<v Speaker 2>would consider them right here at ten and nine percent.

1144
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:32.920
<v Speaker 2>I think they're a little more popular, but that.

1145
00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Both have been pretty consistently taken in my leagues. I

1146
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:36.800
<v Speaker 3>think both have got Yeah.

1147
00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:39.599
<v Speaker 2>I love yeah, Yeah. But I don't think that any

1148
00:54:39.639 --> 00:54:41.920
<v Speaker 2>bat that I go with for these next two picks here,

1149
00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:45.679
<v Speaker 2>I value that much less than those two, or maybe

1150
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:48.400
<v Speaker 2>even more. But I think I am gonna go with

1151
00:54:48.599 --> 00:54:50.800
<v Speaker 2>maybe I'll hold off on a bath. Yeah. This is

1152
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:53.360
<v Speaker 2>a I don't know, maybe a little bit risky because

1153
00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how often a minor league free agent

1154
00:54:57.360 --> 00:54:59.760
<v Speaker 2>pans out super well for you in fantasy. But I'm

1155
00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:02.119
<v Speaker 2>going to go with one Mercedes on the arm side.

1156
00:55:02.239 --> 00:55:04.920
<v Speaker 2>I've been close to taking him in the deepest of

1157
00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:07.840
<v Speaker 2>my leagues, but have not yet with the thought that

1158
00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:09.760
<v Speaker 2>maybe I'll just see how it goes and I'll be

1159
00:55:09.840 --> 00:55:11.880
<v Speaker 2>at the top of my watch list. But you know,

1160
00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:15.480
<v Speaker 2>I came over from Seattle was just dominant his second

1161
00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:18.280
<v Speaker 2>half or whatever, jump to the k rate like freaking

1162
00:55:18.360 --> 00:55:21.000
<v Speaker 2>doubled from the first half. I don't really even know why,

1163
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:23.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, like we talked about with the Giants and

1164
00:55:23.639 --> 00:55:26.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe their situation that there's a decent chance that he

1165
00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:29.719
<v Speaker 2>gets a big league opportunity fairly soon. So yeah, I'll

1166
00:55:29.719 --> 00:55:31.519
<v Speaker 2>take a dice roll on one Mercedes.

1167
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:35.239
<v Speaker 3>All right, Well, I'll stick on the arms here, and

1168
00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:38.760
<v Speaker 3>I'll go with the guy that I took over Gonzales

1169
00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:43.320
<v Speaker 3>when I was kind of late FYPD supplemental draft picks,

1170
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:47.639
<v Speaker 3>and I'll go with Logan Workmen. The Rays have a

1171
00:55:47.719 --> 00:55:52.000
<v Speaker 3>ton of arms and they tend to use them until

1172
00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:55.719
<v Speaker 3>they break, and that leaves lots of opportunity for folks,

1173
00:55:55.840 --> 00:55:58.559
<v Speaker 3>and I think Workmen is one that could step into

1174
00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:01.960
<v Speaker 3>that role as like for or five inning starter as

1175
00:56:01.960 --> 00:56:04.480
<v Speaker 3>soon as this year. Those kinds of guys. I took

1176
00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:08.519
<v Speaker 3>him as the tiebreaker over Jose Gonzalz because that kind

1177
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:12.000
<v Speaker 3>of shuttle performer can be really useful in this league,

1178
00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:14.320
<v Speaker 3>and especially if it's like mid season or late season

1179
00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:16.400
<v Speaker 3>and he's doing that. It's a bit of a kind

1180
00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:18.960
<v Speaker 3>of gaming my system kind of play, and I think

1181
00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:22.559
<v Speaker 3>that that's again drafting four your system and knowing your

1182
00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:26.840
<v Speaker 3>league rules is absolutely paramount. But I also believe in

1183
00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:29.679
<v Speaker 3>the arm. I just think that again, he's another of

1184
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:32.800
<v Speaker 3>these guys that performed at Triple A. Yes, the jump

1185
00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:36.280
<v Speaker 3>to from Triple A to the majors is challenging, but

1186
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:40.159
<v Speaker 3>I also could see him being in shorter stints, an

1187
00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:43.239
<v Speaker 3>elite set up kind of guy logan workman. He's not

1188
00:56:43.320 --> 00:56:46.920
<v Speaker 3>the highest upside kind of pitcher, but he's one that

1189
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:50.480
<v Speaker 3>I really believe in his talent and think that he

1190
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:53.719
<v Speaker 3>could get a look with the big league squad soon.

1191
00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:55.760
<v Speaker 3>He's not on the forty man and so maybe there's

1192
00:56:55.760 --> 00:56:57.960
<v Speaker 3>a couple other guys that are ahead of him, but

1193
00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:01.039
<v Speaker 3>he is eligible for the Rule five this year, so

1194
00:57:01.079 --> 00:57:02.760
<v Speaker 3>I think he's gonna get put on the forty man

1195
00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:05.320
<v Speaker 3>at some point. And the way that the Rays ripped

1196
00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:08.000
<v Speaker 3>through arms like I could see, I could see him

1197
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:11.480
<v Speaker 3>getting some runs. So Logan Workmen is my pick here.

1198
00:57:11.599 --> 00:57:14.119
<v Speaker 3>Is not a super high upside kind of guy, but

1199
00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:16.400
<v Speaker 3>I think there's enough here to be interesting, and especially

1200
00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:18.639
<v Speaker 3>in those leagues where you need a lot of arm depth,

1201
00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:21.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, thirty teen points leagues. Like I rostered him

1202
00:57:21.119 --> 00:57:23.079
<v Speaker 3>in Logan Workmen, you could do a lot worse than

1203
00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:25.159
<v Speaker 3>and as a flyer late in a draft, I was

1204
00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:25.920
<v Speaker 3>happy to grab.

1205
00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:29.599
<v Speaker 2>Him nice the Workmen and Mercedes both at one percent

1206
00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:30.480
<v Speaker 2>right now.

1207
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:32.920
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I wanted to pick someone lower down. Yeah,

1208
00:57:33.159 --> 00:57:35.960
<v Speaker 3>some people say we don't get muddy enough, you know,

1209
00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:38.679
<v Speaker 3>like we sometimes got to get real, real money for it.

1210
00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:42.280
<v Speaker 2>All right, I will take my last arm here. And

1211
00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:45.639
<v Speaker 2>this is tough because there's there's like ten dudes that

1212
00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:47.760
<v Speaker 2>I think are all worthy of this last spot. I

1213
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:51.360
<v Speaker 2>already ROSTEREDO in a couple of leagues, but he's been

1214
00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:54.280
<v Speaker 2>getting plucked in some kind of benitez. I think could

1215
00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:57.440
<v Speaker 2>could really blow up the popularity this year.

1216
00:57:57.679 --> 00:57:59.519
<v Speaker 3>Both those guys got taken in in one of my

1217
00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:02.800
<v Speaker 3>drafts in the same round that I was like, Yeah, besides.

1218
00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Same thing with Adrian Bajorkaz Nico Zeglein super interesting to me.

1219
00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:10.119
<v Speaker 2>I always nd these things with a giant shot, a

1220
00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:13.639
<v Speaker 2>big swing, and I'll go with my guy Wellington Arisenia

1221
00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:18.079
<v Speaker 2>all right, who is at zero percent still, which I

1222
00:58:18.159 --> 00:58:21.559
<v Speaker 2>don't push back against too much. But as we talked about,

1223
00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:24.199
<v Speaker 2>this is a guy with throws very hard. It's very

1224
00:58:24.440 --> 00:58:28.159
<v Speaker 2>a lot of movement on his cutter, big fastball, big frame,

1225
00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:31.440
<v Speaker 2>and walks have been the major problem for him. But

1226
00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:33.840
<v Speaker 2>like we talked about, there wasn't a whole lot of

1227
00:58:33.840 --> 00:58:36.280
<v Speaker 2>a ball innings to watch, like a lot of guys

1228
00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:38.199
<v Speaker 2>that I kind of go with, and I didn't think

1229
00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:41.639
<v Speaker 2>it looked that all that awful to me, and impossible

1230
00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:47.079
<v Speaker 2>get some sort of like Justin Martinez vibes from him,

1231
00:58:47.079 --> 00:58:50.599
<v Speaker 2>not necessarily like totally one for one, but could go

1232
00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:53.480
<v Speaker 2>that kind of route and that sort of path very much.

1233
00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Could just be a reliever. But maybe they start to

1234
00:58:55.800 --> 00:58:57.840
<v Speaker 2>give him some innings, and I think he's just the

1235
00:58:57.920 --> 00:59:00.679
<v Speaker 2>kind of guy that the stuff is overpowering enough, but

1236
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:03.239
<v Speaker 2>if you can just throw strikes, he's gonna like put

1237
00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:06.400
<v Speaker 2>up some big K percentages and get more popular. And

1238
00:59:06.440 --> 00:59:09.199
<v Speaker 2>I saw I think long and Hagens has him as

1239
00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:13.119
<v Speaker 2>like fifteen on the Mets list. Oh nice, whatever that's worth,

1240
00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:15.920
<v Speaker 2>But it's you know, it's it's big stuff, gotta harness

1241
00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:19.920
<v Speaker 2>it sort of play. But Wellington Airsenia. I thought about him.

1242
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:22.559
<v Speaker 2>I thought about him in one draft. I was like, yeah,

1243
00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:24.519
<v Speaker 2>maybe just see how the first week goes, and if

1244
00:59:24.559 --> 00:59:26.719
<v Speaker 2>he's you know, walks a bunch of dudes, I don't

1245
00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:30.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't mind having some empty spec spots to the

1246
00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:33.280
<v Speaker 2>first couple of weeks or months of the mL MiLB season.

1247
00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:36.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a good point. And I in some of

1248
00:59:36.239 --> 00:59:39.719
<v Speaker 3>my drafts I skewed really for the teenager upside shots.

1249
00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:43.519
<v Speaker 3>You know. I went like Josh war Day's consolidations went

1250
00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:47.079
<v Speaker 3>for him in one im paired him with Johnny Level

1251
00:59:47.119 --> 00:59:49.000
<v Speaker 3>and they're both seventeen and we're not going to see

1252
00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:52.000
<v Speaker 3>anything from them for weeks of the season, so you know,

1253
00:59:52.119 --> 00:59:53.920
<v Speaker 3>those kinds of picks, like you know you're hanging on

1254
00:59:53.960 --> 00:59:55.960
<v Speaker 3>to him for a long time. But I do agree

1255
00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:57.719
<v Speaker 3>like sometimes having those picks at the back of the

1256
00:59:57.800 --> 00:59:59.760
<v Speaker 3>roster to be like, okay, I need to turn this

1257
01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:01.679
<v Speaker 3>four a pop up, that's the startup.

1258
01:00:01.719 --> 01:00:04.119
<v Speaker 2>But I did I use my last like five six

1259
01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:06.719
<v Speaker 2>spec picks on just like teenage bats. I was most

1260
01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:10.400
<v Speaker 2>anxious to see this year. It's a nice aspects in season,

1261
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:12.920
<v Speaker 2>and so if they don't, don't. I'm not married to them,

1262
01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:15.119
<v Speaker 2>like I can truffle them, no problem. But if they

1263
01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:17.480
<v Speaker 2>come out of the gates swinging it real, well, we'll

1264
01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:18.400
<v Speaker 2>hang on to them. All right.

1265
01:00:18.519 --> 01:00:21.639
<v Speaker 3>Let's go back to the bats here, and I'm going

1266
01:00:21.719 --> 01:00:25.840
<v Speaker 3>to talk about two guys and use them to illustrate

1267
01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:28.159
<v Speaker 3>part of this point about like knowing your format. So

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01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:33.079
<v Speaker 3>the two guys are Yader Arianamo and Nick Simio or Samilo.

1269
01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:35.639
<v Speaker 3>They could not be more different. I have been back

1270
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:38.440
<v Speaker 3>to back on this preference list that we'd made. I

1271
01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:41.239
<v Speaker 3>guess one guy TAAs in between them, but it's Arianamo,

1272
01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:45.800
<v Speaker 3>Tawa and then Samilo, and those three guys really couldn't

1273
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:48.599
<v Speaker 3>be more different. Taua is a bit of do everything,

1274
01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:52.519
<v Speaker 3>play all over kind of guy. Arianamo is contact first

1275
01:00:52.599 --> 01:00:57.320
<v Speaker 3>up the middle, decent defense. Similo's first base only probably

1276
01:00:57.360 --> 01:00:59.039
<v Speaker 3>I think he's played other spots, but he really only

1277
01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:02.039
<v Speaker 3>looks playable at first and hits the absolute snot out

1278
01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:05.400
<v Speaker 3>of the ball. They're all pretty low ownership, I think,

1279
01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:08.400
<v Speaker 3>like Similo, I think is like one percent. Would you say.

1280
01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Tawa was at tin Talas at seven percent.

1281
01:01:11.280 --> 01:01:14.159
<v Speaker 3>And Aeronamas around seven percent too, right, Okay, so you

1282
01:01:14.199 --> 01:01:16.639
<v Speaker 3>know those two are maybe a little more owned. But

1283
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:20.079
<v Speaker 3>in this league I had these one. Yeah, So in

1284
01:01:20.119 --> 01:01:22.800
<v Speaker 3>this league I had those three guys on my list. Again,

1285
01:01:22.840 --> 01:01:24.639
<v Speaker 3>this is super late. I had the last three PICKXE

1286
01:01:24.639 --> 01:01:26.280
<v Speaker 3>of this draft, and I was like lining up who

1287
01:01:26.280 --> 01:01:28.639
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to take, and I went back and forth,

1288
01:01:28.679 --> 01:01:31.599
<v Speaker 3>and these guys were all on this list, and the

1289
01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:36.159
<v Speaker 3>format dictates Nick Similo was the pick by far slam

1290
01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:39.000
<v Speaker 3>dunk in this draft, even though he's the one percenter,

1291
01:01:39.119 --> 01:01:42.599
<v Speaker 3>even though my preference list has aeronamo on Taua above him.

1292
01:01:42.599 --> 01:01:45.079
<v Speaker 3>But this league is a K penalty league. But our

1293
01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:47.079
<v Speaker 3>K penalty is one point. You know how much how

1294
01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:49.199
<v Speaker 3>many points you get for one home run in this league?

1295
01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:54.599
<v Speaker 3>Eight double it, that's the single one home run is

1296
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:57.679
<v Speaker 3>sixteen points, and you know what, that's just for the

1297
01:01:57.679 --> 01:01:59.679
<v Speaker 3>home run. You also get a run in an RBI

1298
01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:02.000
<v Speaker 3>with it. So you know how many points you actually

1299
01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:05.079
<v Speaker 3>get for a home run twenty four twenty four points

1300
01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:08.280
<v Speaker 3>for a home run one minus one strikeout. So power

1301
01:02:08.519 --> 01:02:11.800
<v Speaker 3>fucking plays in this league. And that's what Samlo brings.

1302
01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:15.320
<v Speaker 3>And so because his profile, while you know, narrow path

1303
01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:17.920
<v Speaker 3>to the major leagues and the bar for him to

1304
01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:20.880
<v Speaker 3>hit is going to be really high. I went with Similo,

1305
01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:23.840
<v Speaker 3>and yeah, because he's one percent, he's still in Double A,

1306
01:02:24.239 --> 01:02:26.440
<v Speaker 3>and he's a right handed first baseman. All of those

1307
01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:28.599
<v Speaker 3>things are working against him to make the major leagues

1308
01:02:28.840 --> 01:02:32.320
<v Speaker 3>and be successful. But if he makes it in this format,

1309
01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:35.400
<v Speaker 3>he is for sure going to be a better performer

1310
01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:36.920
<v Speaker 3>than the other guys, And so I use that as

1311
01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:39.440
<v Speaker 3>a tiebreaker in this in this instance of just like,

1312
01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:43.519
<v Speaker 3>know your format, know why guys are ranked places, either

1313
01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:46.280
<v Speaker 3>for yourself or for other people, and use that to

1314
01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:49.800
<v Speaker 3>draft accordingly. So I'll highlight Samilo, but with a head

1315
01:02:49.840 --> 01:02:53.599
<v Speaker 3>nod towards Arianamo as well, whom in another league like Similo,

1316
01:02:53.960 --> 01:02:56.840
<v Speaker 3>not even a consideration. But Arianamo, if he keeps doing

1317
01:02:56.880 --> 01:02:58.880
<v Speaker 3>what he does, he might be someone that I target

1318
01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:01.599
<v Speaker 3>in the off season list because his contact skills are

1319
01:03:01.639 --> 01:03:02.000
<v Speaker 3>so good.

1320
01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:04.519
<v Speaker 2>All right, So for your hitters, I got Aaron Estrauta,

1321
01:03:04.559 --> 01:03:09.719
<v Speaker 2>Logan Wagner, Ricardo Olivar, Austin overn and Nick Simillo. Yep, okay, oh,

1322
01:03:09.760 --> 01:03:12.159
<v Speaker 2>I got to pick two more losers on two more

1323
01:03:12.280 --> 01:03:15.079
<v Speaker 2>loser bats here. Hmmm, I think'm gonna take one of

1324
01:03:15.119 --> 01:03:17.480
<v Speaker 2>your guys. I haven't drafted him yet, but I've been

1325
01:03:17.519 --> 01:03:20.360
<v Speaker 2>close a few times. You kind of sold me on

1326
01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Sevin Sebos that how you say it.

1327
01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:25.480
<v Speaker 3>I say it Saban Sabaios, But I don't.

1328
01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Know saving Sabaios. I'm gonna go with Saves. I think

1329
01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:32.400
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a you know, a thirty teamer only league.

1330
01:03:32.440 --> 01:03:34.840
<v Speaker 2>It's a It's a nice play because, like you talked

1331
01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:38.199
<v Speaker 2>about the likelihood of him being a major leaguer because

1332
01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:41.440
<v Speaker 2>of the glove, but we you noted how you know,

1333
01:03:41.719 --> 01:03:44.920
<v Speaker 2>I think he's the reputation was like a defensive contact

1334
01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:47.719
<v Speaker 2>first third baseman sort of, but think we're you at

1335
01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:49.559
<v Speaker 2>least you were wondering if there was a little bit

1336
01:03:49.599 --> 01:03:52.039
<v Speaker 2>more punch in the bat, and he was showing that

1337
01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:55.320
<v Speaker 2>after his trade to the Giants. So yeah, I kind

1338
01:03:55.320 --> 01:03:56.960
<v Speaker 2>of you kind of sold me there. And you know,

1339
01:03:57.079 --> 01:03:59.480
<v Speaker 2>since you stole over and from me, I gotta steal

1340
01:03:59.519 --> 01:04:00.039
<v Speaker 2>one from you.

1341
01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:03.360
<v Speaker 3>Only fair. Yeah, I like I like Sibios too. I

1342
01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:05.639
<v Speaker 3>think he's got a lot going from He's one I

1343
01:04:05.639 --> 01:04:08.559
<v Speaker 3>haven't rostered, but on my prefer list here he was

1344
01:04:08.679 --> 01:04:09.199
<v Speaker 3>top ten.

1345
01:04:11.159 --> 01:04:14.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, he's five percent at the moment on fan tracks.

1346
01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:18.199
<v Speaker 3>Nice nice. I do want to play in one of

1347
01:04:18.239 --> 01:04:22.039
<v Speaker 3>these leagues where it's just like an insane prospect pool.

1348
01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:25.360
<v Speaker 3>So you know, it's like each team in the thirty

1349
01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:29.000
<v Speaker 3>teamer rosters one hundred and fifty prospects or something like that,

1350
01:04:29.159 --> 01:04:32.719
<v Speaker 3>you literally have the entire minor league pool available or

1351
01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:35.320
<v Speaker 3>something like. I think that would be really really fun and.

1352
01:04:35.880 --> 01:04:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Fun and no in season pickups. It's just all draft.

1353
01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:42.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that I mean again more like the major leagues

1354
01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:45.840
<v Speaker 3>in the professional systems like that, I would certainly put

1355
01:04:45.880 --> 01:04:48.679
<v Speaker 3>more emphasis on the draft and on those throw ins

1356
01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:50.679
<v Speaker 3>and trades. I told you that I picked up out

1357
01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:54.039
<v Speaker 3>of the park baseball OTP and I have been playing

1358
01:04:54.079 --> 01:04:56.480
<v Speaker 3>that in like all of my spare time, you know,

1359
01:04:56.599 --> 01:04:59.199
<v Speaker 3>to scratch this fantasy baseball itch over the course of

1360
01:04:59.239 --> 01:05:02.199
<v Speaker 3>the off season. It's super fun. Like, yeah, I get

1361
01:05:02.239 --> 01:05:05.360
<v Speaker 3>why people love this thing for us baseball siccos Yeah,

1362
01:05:05.519 --> 01:05:08.840
<v Speaker 3>I almost take as much as much enjoyment about managing

1363
01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:12.559
<v Speaker 3>my minor leagues and making these like trades for terrible

1364
01:05:12.760 --> 01:05:15.119
<v Speaker 3>prospects to see if there's something more in them than

1365
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:18.719
<v Speaker 3>I do managing the major league roster. So that that tracks.

1366
01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:22.039
<v Speaker 3>Given this podcast and my interest in playing in a

1367
01:05:22.440 --> 01:05:24.920
<v Speaker 3>you know sixty one hundred eight, one hundred and fifty

1368
01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:27.800
<v Speaker 3>minor league slot dynasty room, So we need to we

1369
01:05:27.840 --> 01:05:29.360
<v Speaker 3>need to make one of those, Nate, when we do

1370
01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:32.519
<v Speaker 3>our next startup. Well, it's going to be aggressive on

1371
01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:33.920
<v Speaker 3>the minor league rossers.

1372
01:05:34.159 --> 01:05:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then what do we gotta love? You got

1373
01:05:35.960 --> 01:05:37.679
<v Speaker 2>to pick a picture and I got to pick a hitter.

1374
01:05:37.800 --> 01:05:40.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And there's some fun ones still here.

1375
01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:42.960
<v Speaker 2>The pictures are so much more fun than the hitters

1376
01:05:43.039 --> 01:05:45.199
<v Speaker 2>right now on that and you can't deny that.

1377
01:05:46.519 --> 01:05:50.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, not more fun. There are just more of

1378
01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:52.880
<v Speaker 3>them that I really like. I mean, the two I'm

1379
01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:57.679
<v Speaker 3>debating between here are Gabriel Reis and Connolly Early. I

1380
01:05:57.719 --> 01:06:00.960
<v Speaker 3>love both of them. Reis, I think is just a

1381
01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:04.840
<v Speaker 3>little farther away. He's been hidden by the way that

1382
01:06:05.079 --> 01:06:08.079
<v Speaker 3>Detroit has deployed him. So again he should be on

1383
01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:10.599
<v Speaker 3>people's watch list, like he's one of the guys that

1384
01:06:10.599 --> 01:06:13.559
<v Speaker 3>I'm most excited to see. A. Where does Detroit assign him?

1385
01:06:13.800 --> 01:06:16.719
<v Speaker 3>And b how do they deploy him? Because he was injured,

1386
01:06:16.880 --> 01:06:19.480
<v Speaker 3>came back and then did a lot of his rehabbing

1387
01:06:19.679 --> 01:06:22.840
<v Speaker 3>appearances in relief, so he'd piggyback and do three, four

1388
01:06:22.880 --> 01:06:25.159
<v Speaker 3>or five innings in relief. And so if people are

1389
01:06:25.199 --> 01:06:28.239
<v Speaker 3>just scrolling through Fangraft's leaderboards, he wasn't a starter for

1390
01:06:28.280 --> 01:06:30.199
<v Speaker 3>a lot of them, and if your filters weren't right,

1391
01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:33.000
<v Speaker 3>you might have missed him. But he's definitely being developed

1392
01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:36.119
<v Speaker 3>as a starter and has three great pitches, so reyes

1393
01:06:36.239 --> 01:06:38.199
<v Speaker 3>like super exciting, but he's only done it in nable.

1394
01:06:38.360 --> 01:06:40.599
<v Speaker 3>We haven't seen a lot of track record of performance.

1395
01:06:40.719 --> 01:06:43.400
<v Speaker 3>He's still pretty young, so I'm so excited to see

1396
01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:46.320
<v Speaker 3>him next year, but I'm instead gonna take Connelly early,

1397
01:06:46.360 --> 01:06:48.800
<v Speaker 3>who I see is already up to seven percent like

1398
01:06:48.920 --> 01:06:51.119
<v Speaker 3>and I think, as I mentioned, after I dove into

1399
01:06:51.199 --> 01:06:54.039
<v Speaker 3>him and I was just gobsmacked with how good he was.

1400
01:06:54.239 --> 01:06:56.400
<v Speaker 3>He's another one for me that I would not be

1401
01:06:56.480 --> 01:06:59.199
<v Speaker 3>shocked that he's like a number three starter over the

1402
01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:02.320
<v Speaker 3>next you know, five six years, like our legit major

1403
01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:05.880
<v Speaker 3>league starter, just given the depth of repertoire. I think

1404
01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:08.599
<v Speaker 3>he manipulates the shape of his fastball, which is the

1405
01:07:08.599 --> 01:07:12.280
<v Speaker 3>thing that I love. And even though the velocity isn't there,

1406
01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:15.800
<v Speaker 3>I think the approach angle and the shape are plus

1407
01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:19.679
<v Speaker 3>maybe bordering on double. And I think that his secondaries

1408
01:07:19.960 --> 01:07:22.880
<v Speaker 3>make his fastball play up as even more so. I'm

1409
01:07:22.920 --> 01:07:27.239
<v Speaker 3>just way way in on Connolly Early, and unfortunately I've

1410
01:07:27.320 --> 01:07:30.000
<v Speaker 3>not been able to get him anywhere. Whoever rosters him

1411
01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:33.719
<v Speaker 3>is excited about it, for sure. Yeah, and I've been

1412
01:07:33.800 --> 01:07:36.760
<v Speaker 3>bummed because I've, like you know, in trades, often don't

1413
01:07:36.800 --> 01:07:39.000
<v Speaker 3>ask for the guy that I want first, like or

1414
01:07:39.079 --> 01:07:42.800
<v Speaker 3>I'll ask for a major league piece and then negotiate

1415
01:07:42.880 --> 01:07:44.519
<v Speaker 3>from there and see if I can get the minor

1416
01:07:44.599 --> 01:07:47.280
<v Speaker 3>leaguers that I like offered in his balance or throw

1417
01:07:47.360 --> 01:07:49.639
<v Speaker 3>in some trade. I've not been able to pry Early

1418
01:07:49.800 --> 01:07:52.800
<v Speaker 3>away from anybody in my leagues yet, so but I'm

1419
01:07:52.840 --> 01:07:54.599
<v Speaker 3>super excited about him, and I'll take him as my

1420
01:07:54.679 --> 01:07:56.679
<v Speaker 3>last official draft arm here.

1421
01:07:56.880 --> 01:07:59.079
<v Speaker 2>On several bets, I think you can make a good

1422
01:07:59.119 --> 01:08:01.639
<v Speaker 2>case for here, so some are yours too, Like I

1423
01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:04.519
<v Speaker 2>think Aaron Parker would be, yeah, an excellent choice here.

1424
01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:06.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we wrecked him for that, the guy that was

1425
01:08:06.800 --> 01:08:09.599
<v Speaker 3>asking about the super Deep league and it was an

1426
01:08:09.599 --> 01:08:13.840
<v Speaker 3>OPS league. And while Parker has contact concerns and wasn't

1427
01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:16.279
<v Speaker 3>that highly regarded coming out of the draft, like, his

1428
01:08:16.399 --> 01:08:18.520
<v Speaker 3>performance was so loud and hit the ball so fricking

1429
01:08:18.600 --> 01:08:21.359
<v Speaker 3>hard that if it clicks, that's that's impressive.

1430
01:08:21.479 --> 01:08:23.159
<v Speaker 2>Tell me if I'm crazy here, But I'd have a

1431
01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:25.279
<v Speaker 2>hard time, Like if one of my beasts of Carson,

1432
01:08:25.319 --> 01:08:28.039
<v Speaker 2>McCusker and Parker is sitting here and I'm just like

1433
01:08:28.199 --> 01:08:31.079
<v Speaker 2>I want home runs, Like, I would just go with McCusker,

1434
01:08:31.159 --> 01:08:33.800
<v Speaker 2>right and get it over with, find out if there's

1435
01:08:33.840 --> 01:08:35.880
<v Speaker 2>ever gonna be any home runs in the majors from

1436
01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:38.000
<v Speaker 2>him or not? Right. So that would be a tough

1437
01:08:38.039 --> 01:08:40.319
<v Speaker 2>internal debate for me between those two if this was

1438
01:08:40.359 --> 01:08:42.479
<v Speaker 2>like a real draft here. But I think I'm gonna

1439
01:08:42.479 --> 01:08:46.319
<v Speaker 2>go with gotta go with my favorite minor leader, being

1440
01:08:46.439 --> 01:08:50.479
<v Speaker 2>close to drafting him, but he's not popular. Nobody likes

1441
01:08:50.560 --> 01:08:53.920
<v Speaker 2>rack Reggio that much. After Clegg shared like some of

1442
01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:56.760
<v Speaker 2>his hard hit data stuff, it was it was way

1443
01:08:56.800 --> 01:09:00.119
<v Speaker 2>harder than I had anticipated. But I love Riggio. I

1444
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:02.039
<v Speaker 2>think we're gonna see him in the bigs at some point,

1445
01:09:02.399 --> 01:09:05.039
<v Speaker 2>probably not with the Yankees, But how can you not

1446
01:09:05.279 --> 01:09:08.199
<v Speaker 2>like this guy. Man just plays the game so freaking hard.

1447
01:09:08.359 --> 01:09:12.079
<v Speaker 2>He's super aggressive at the plate, not very big, but

1448
01:09:12.159 --> 01:09:14.680
<v Speaker 2>he can you can pack a punch, and I just

1449
01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:16.880
<v Speaker 2>I just love him as a player, and I think

1450
01:09:16.920 --> 01:09:19.600
<v Speaker 2>there is a big leaguer there, and who knows maybe

1451
01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:22.079
<v Speaker 2>this is the year that he puts up some gaudy

1452
01:09:22.119 --> 01:09:23.800
<v Speaker 2>numbers and gets some more attention.

1453
01:09:23.960 --> 01:09:26.840
<v Speaker 3>But I like this pick. He's super fun. Like you said,

1454
01:09:26.960 --> 01:09:29.680
<v Speaker 3>his minor league highlights are incredible. He plays the game

1455
01:09:29.760 --> 01:09:35.439
<v Speaker 3>super hard, and according to very sane and calm Yankees Twitter,

1456
01:09:35.720 --> 01:09:38.279
<v Speaker 3>they think he should be the headliner in a Louis

1457
01:09:38.399 --> 01:09:42.199
<v Speaker 3>Robert trade. So maybe he's the Yanks Luis Robert and

1458
01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:44.560
<v Speaker 3>he'll be back on your favorite squad, the White Sox.

1459
01:09:44.760 --> 01:09:47.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh God, I hope, I hope he should doesn't end

1460
01:09:47.119 --> 01:09:49.960
<v Speaker 2>up a White Sox. He does not deserve that. So

1461
01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:52.239
<v Speaker 2>it's real quick. We'll run down the rosters here. The

1462
01:09:52.319 --> 01:09:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Rooks five pitchers are Ben Shields, Chad Patrick, Jose Gonzalez,

1463
01:09:55.960 --> 01:09:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Logan Workman, and Kindery Early. Now, we did have some caveats.

1464
01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:02.000
<v Speaker 2>There are some that we like more than these from

1465
01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:04.159
<v Speaker 2>our list, but it's kind of obvious now at this point,

1466
01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:06.800
<v Speaker 2>so we just passed on those. I'm going with Ryan Gusteau,

1467
01:10:07.079 --> 01:10:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Jose Urbina, Will Johnston, Jan Mercedes and Wellington Arisania. We

1468
01:10:12.319 --> 01:10:14.800
<v Speaker 2>picked some guys that are still not getting popular. So

1469
01:10:14.840 --> 01:10:17.439
<v Speaker 2>if you're looking for some more names in your deep leagues,

1470
01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:20.439
<v Speaker 2>maybe there's some arms hit her side. Rook went with

1471
01:10:20.680 --> 01:10:26.199
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Destrauda, Logan Wagner, love It, Ricardo Olivar, Austin Overne,

1472
01:10:26.520 --> 01:10:30.159
<v Speaker 2>Nick Samillo, and I went with r J. Shrek, lizbel Diaz,

1473
01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:36.439
<v Speaker 2>Tim Tawa, Saving Sebaos, and Rock Reggio. All right, Matt,

1474
01:10:36.520 --> 01:10:39.359
<v Speaker 2>let's talk some first year players. I know, we love

1475
01:10:39.399 --> 01:10:42.640
<v Speaker 2>our B siders and our unrostered prospects, and we like

1476
01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:45.119
<v Speaker 2>to pluck those in our drafts here, but there are

1477
01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:47.840
<v Speaker 2>some first year players that I like, and I think

1478
01:10:47.880 --> 01:10:52.119
<v Speaker 2>you like. You talked about Austin Overn and apologies to listeners.

1479
01:10:52.239 --> 01:10:54.119
<v Speaker 2>I really liked the first year player episode that we

1480
01:10:54.159 --> 01:10:56.159
<v Speaker 2>did last year, but we didn't do one like that

1481
01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:58.560
<v Speaker 2>this year, And in part because I don't know, Matt,

1482
01:10:58.640 --> 01:11:01.840
<v Speaker 2>my first year player research, you know, watch them a lot,

1483
01:11:02.239 --> 01:11:05.520
<v Speaker 2>just wasn't quite as intriguing to me as last year.

1484
01:11:05.720 --> 01:11:08.119
<v Speaker 2>And I didn't have like videos of a lot of

1485
01:11:08.159 --> 01:11:10.880
<v Speaker 2>guys that I thought were super interesting to share like

1486
01:11:10.920 --> 01:11:12.479
<v Speaker 2>I did last year on social media.

1487
01:11:12.520 --> 01:11:15.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, what was the research that you did? I'm putting

1488
01:11:15.960 --> 01:11:19.920
<v Speaker 3>you on the spot here, but you looked into the availability,

1489
01:11:20.039 --> 01:11:22.600
<v Speaker 3>So who debuted after the draft? Right?

1490
01:11:22.800 --> 01:11:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Like?

1491
01:11:23.119 --> 01:11:26.079
<v Speaker 3>How many arms how many hitters and how that your

1492
01:11:26.119 --> 01:11:29.039
<v Speaker 3>hair from past years and our stupid Bridge League's kind

1493
01:11:29.039 --> 01:11:31.840
<v Speaker 3>of ruined our FYPD research, right, Yeah.

1494
01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:34.600
<v Speaker 2>I think so? For me, Yeah, I think definitely. I

1495
01:11:34.960 --> 01:11:36.680
<v Speaker 2>know I don't have it in front of me, and

1496
01:11:36.720 --> 01:11:39.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember what the breakdown was, but we I

1497
01:11:39.439 --> 01:11:41.479
<v Speaker 2>was looking at that with Clegg and sharing some of

1498
01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:44.359
<v Speaker 2>the info, and I was just tackling all the late

1499
01:11:44.439 --> 01:11:48.359
<v Speaker 2>appearances and innings pitched, the number of draftees that got

1500
01:11:48.359 --> 01:11:51.279
<v Speaker 2>some full season run from like last year to this year.

1501
01:11:51.520 --> 01:11:54.560
<v Speaker 2>There was I think a few less players on both sides,

1502
01:11:54.600 --> 01:11:57.000
<v Speaker 2>but not by much. At least on the hitter side.

1503
01:11:57.000 --> 01:11:58.960
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't by much. I think the pitchers were a

1504
01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:02.239
<v Speaker 2>little bit more signific as far as just number of players,

1505
01:12:02.239 --> 01:12:05.920
<v Speaker 2>but the played appearances and the innings pitched took a

1506
01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:09.119
<v Speaker 2>significant cut from last season, so that less innings and

1507
01:12:09.199 --> 01:12:11.920
<v Speaker 2>less at bats to watch these guys this year. And

1508
01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:14.000
<v Speaker 2>I think too, just the player pool, there weren't as

1509
01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:16.680
<v Speaker 2>many on the bat side as many guys that impressed

1510
01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:18.720
<v Speaker 2>me as last as last year. You know we were

1511
01:12:18.720 --> 01:12:22.119
<v Speaker 2>talking about there wasn't really like Will Simpson or Jonathan

1512
01:12:22.159 --> 01:12:25.479
<v Speaker 2>Long types like we were getting into you know that really.

1513
01:12:25.479 --> 01:12:27.720
<v Speaker 3>Maybe they were not getting suckered into the Trevor Warner

1514
01:12:27.720 --> 01:12:28.199
<v Speaker 3>of this year.

1515
01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:31.279
<v Speaker 2>Then yeah, perhaps perhaps it's a good thing too. Like

1516
01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:33.159
<v Speaker 2>last year, I think I put out there and cut

1517
01:12:33.199 --> 01:12:36.399
<v Speaker 2>up videos what was like forty bats that caught my attention,

1518
01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:38.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, this year, I think there was maybe like

1519
01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:41.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty that I would have done something like that, similar

1520
01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:44.399
<v Speaker 2>to you know, but yeah, I don't know who you've

1521
01:12:44.439 --> 01:12:44.880
<v Speaker 2>been taking.

1522
01:12:45.119 --> 01:12:48.199
<v Speaker 3>Well, we talked a little bit about this when we

1523
01:12:48.199 --> 01:12:52.560
<v Speaker 3>weren't recording, But I really haven't taken many first year

1524
01:12:52.600 --> 01:12:56.119
<v Speaker 3>players in these drafts because my drafts tend to be

1525
01:12:56.239 --> 01:13:00.279
<v Speaker 3>the supplemental version, not a strict FYPD. That doesn't mean

1526
01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:03.079
<v Speaker 3>like there are still some that late in the draft.

1527
01:13:03.119 --> 01:13:06.319
<v Speaker 3>I found myself gearing towards and playing a couple of

1528
01:13:06.359 --> 01:13:10.880
<v Speaker 3>different namesake type teams where you get one pick automatically

1529
01:13:11.119 --> 01:13:13.880
<v Speaker 3>just by virtue of your team. So I have a

1530
01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:17.079
<v Speaker 3>couple of shares of THEO Gillan because of that, not

1531
01:13:17.199 --> 01:13:19.720
<v Speaker 3>because I liked him in particular. I'm just the Rays,

1532
01:13:19.840 --> 01:13:22.640
<v Speaker 3>and so I've got got a couple of THEO Gillen shares.

1533
01:13:22.880 --> 01:13:27.039
<v Speaker 3>As far as like names that I actually took, I

1534
01:13:27.079 --> 01:13:31.159
<v Speaker 3>took one share of Cole Mathis in a power focus league.

1535
01:13:31.359 --> 01:13:34.319
<v Speaker 3>That's Cubs supposed to see the third render, fourth render

1536
01:13:34.399 --> 01:13:34.720
<v Speaker 3>for them.

1537
01:13:35.239 --> 01:13:36.000
<v Speaker 2>I believe third y.

1538
01:13:36.159 --> 01:13:38.640
<v Speaker 3>I think that's right, just as like Upside power Bat.

1539
01:13:38.840 --> 01:13:40.600
<v Speaker 3>Watched a little bit of the tape. I think this

1540
01:13:40.760 --> 01:13:43.119
<v Speaker 3>was a Jeff Ponce he kind of stuffed in the

1541
01:13:43.199 --> 01:13:46.479
<v Speaker 3>Baseball America FYPD list and fit.

1542
01:13:47.079 --> 01:13:49.279
<v Speaker 2>He took Mathis in a draft that was in with

1543
01:13:49.359 --> 01:13:49.720
<v Speaker 2>him in.

1544
01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:51.479
<v Speaker 3>At first, I thought that was a Punce. I might

1545
01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:53.199
<v Speaker 3>have heard him talking about him on one of one

1546
01:13:53.239 --> 01:13:55.560
<v Speaker 3>of his podcasts too. Think he was a bit of

1547
01:13:55.600 --> 01:13:59.520
<v Speaker 3>a Punce target. And I, you know, targeted a bunch

1548
01:13:59.720 --> 01:14:05.359
<v Speaker 3>of these outfielders in like the late ranges in a draft,

1549
01:14:05.479 --> 01:14:10.399
<v Speaker 3>and A had trouble separating them from each other. So

1550
01:14:10.960 --> 01:14:14.800
<v Speaker 3>Zach Erhard for the Red Sox, Mike Sirota drafted by

1551
01:14:14.840 --> 01:14:18.800
<v Speaker 3>the Reds traded to the Dodgers, Carter Frederick Royals drafty,

1552
01:14:19.119 --> 01:14:23.159
<v Speaker 3>Joseph Sullivan Astro's drafty. And there was one other in

1553
01:14:23.199 --> 01:14:26.399
<v Speaker 3>this group that I was looking at, Casey Sock for

1554
01:14:26.479 --> 01:14:30.439
<v Speaker 3>the White Sox. Those like five outfielders, I was like

1555
01:14:30.520 --> 01:14:33.079
<v Speaker 3>stacking them up with like the early first round or

1556
01:14:33.079 --> 01:14:37.159
<v Speaker 3>the mid to late first round guys of Caldwell, Tibbs, Honeycut,

1557
01:14:37.319 --> 01:14:41.119
<v Speaker 3>even Walt Schmidt and Bene, all of them sort of

1558
01:14:41.199 --> 01:14:44.119
<v Speaker 3>different in some ways. But I was really struggling to

1559
01:14:44.199 --> 01:14:49.359
<v Speaker 3>see why people so preferred benj Walschmidt, TIBs to that

1560
01:14:49.640 --> 01:14:53.039
<v Speaker 3>to the lower grouping, And I ended up taking Joseph

1561
01:14:53.119 --> 01:14:56.279
<v Speaker 3>Sullivan because I think he hits the ball pretty hard,

1562
01:14:56.479 --> 01:15:00.520
<v Speaker 3>showed some good plate skills, like he could a walk,

1563
01:15:00.560 --> 01:15:02.439
<v Speaker 3>and the knock on him is maybe that he hits

1564
01:15:02.439 --> 01:15:03.800
<v Speaker 3>the ball in the ground a bit too much, but

1565
01:15:03.840 --> 01:15:06.159
<v Speaker 3>it seemed playable to me. It was like a forty

1566
01:15:06.399 --> 01:15:08.680
<v Speaker 3>percent range in his first taste of pro ball. So

1567
01:15:09.039 --> 01:15:11.119
<v Speaker 3>I went with Sullivan and he was one of the

1568
01:15:11.199 --> 01:15:14.279
<v Speaker 3>kind of later round guys and intrigued by it, like

1569
01:15:14.560 --> 01:15:17.199
<v Speaker 3>he's showed some stuff. His left handed stroke looked pretty

1570
01:15:17.239 --> 01:15:20.119
<v Speaker 3>nice to me. So and that the Astros really do

1571
01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:22.800
<v Speaker 3>have a knack for taking guys that other people underrate

1572
01:15:22.840 --> 01:15:25.600
<v Speaker 3>and turning them into useful big leaders. So I wonder

1573
01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:28.079
<v Speaker 3>if they've done something like that targeting.

1574
01:15:27.800 --> 01:15:31.199
<v Speaker 2>They like hard hit data guys.

1575
01:15:31.439 --> 01:15:33.920
<v Speaker 3>So Sullivan's a guy that I've been I've been into.

1576
01:15:34.119 --> 01:15:36.039
<v Speaker 2>He's curious to me. I have to say I know

1577
01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:38.800
<v Speaker 2>a ton about him, but I know he's getting lauded

1578
01:15:38.880 --> 01:15:41.640
<v Speaker 2>for for this, you know, potential power and stuff like that.

1579
01:15:41.680 --> 01:15:45.800
<v Speaker 2>But like, I think his home run high watermark in

1580
01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:47.760
<v Speaker 2>college was like fifteen, yeah.

1581
01:15:47.560 --> 01:15:49.560
<v Speaker 3>Which is still decent. I mean, it's not like the

1582
01:15:49.920 --> 01:15:53.039
<v Speaker 3>crazy SEC numbers that some of the guys have put up,

1583
01:15:53.039 --> 01:15:56.720
<v Speaker 3>but in that grouping was better than Sock, who's like

1584
01:15:56.800 --> 01:15:59.560
<v Speaker 3>high water mark was like twelve or something and some

1585
01:15:59.600 --> 01:16:01.399
<v Speaker 3>of the other so there's some power in there. I

1586
01:16:01.399 --> 01:16:03.960
<v Speaker 3>don't think he hit one after he was drafted. I

1587
01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:05.479
<v Speaker 3>don't have his numbers in front of me, but I think.

1588
01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:07.800
<v Speaker 3>But he also didn't have a ton of played appearances either.

1589
01:16:07.840 --> 01:16:11.079
<v Speaker 2>Right, Sarona, what's your take on? Serona? Don't I don't

1590
01:16:11.079 --> 01:16:13.479
<v Speaker 2>really have much of opinion. I haven't paid much attention.

1591
01:16:13.880 --> 01:16:16.720
<v Speaker 3>So this was a little bit of like the Orlando

1592
01:16:17.439 --> 01:16:20.560
<v Speaker 3>deal for you. I think like he was talked about

1593
01:16:20.600 --> 01:16:24.319
<v Speaker 3>coming into this year as a mid major kind of

1594
01:16:24.359 --> 01:16:28.520
<v Speaker 3>cold weather performer that might sneak into the top ten

1595
01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:31.239
<v Speaker 3>with kind of what he had done as an underclassman,

1596
01:16:31.399 --> 01:16:35.000
<v Speaker 3>and then underwhelmed. I think, had some injuries, didn't perform

1597
01:16:35.119 --> 01:16:38.880
<v Speaker 3>quite as well. This I took him in one draft

1598
01:16:39.119 --> 01:16:42.960
<v Speaker 3>pretty late. This was my and i'll only fourteen teamer,

1599
01:16:43.119 --> 01:16:45.720
<v Speaker 3>so you know, plays like almost like a thirty teamer.

1600
01:16:45.800 --> 01:16:49.960
<v Speaker 3>But I felt like the NL portion was much shallower

1601
01:16:50.079 --> 01:16:51.920
<v Speaker 3>as I was stacking it up, like for those either

1602
01:16:51.960 --> 01:16:54.720
<v Speaker 3>play in deep NL or ale onlies. So I didn't

1603
01:16:54.800 --> 01:16:57.680
<v Speaker 3>love the pick, Like wasn't super enamored by Seroda or anything.

1604
01:16:57.720 --> 01:17:02.199
<v Speaker 3>It's more that sometimes down draft year for a cold

1605
01:17:02.239 --> 01:17:05.520
<v Speaker 3>weather mid major guy has like outside impact, but maybe

1606
01:17:05.520 --> 01:17:09.600
<v Speaker 3>he bounces back in pro ball and shows the skills

1607
01:17:09.880 --> 01:17:11.840
<v Speaker 3>that I think were like pretty well rounded, like that

1608
01:17:11.920 --> 01:17:14.119
<v Speaker 3>he had some power, had some hit, had some speed,

1609
01:17:14.239 --> 01:17:16.359
<v Speaker 3>like kind of a do everything outfielder, and that the

1610
01:17:16.439 --> 01:17:19.920
<v Speaker 3>Dodgers also liked him in trade, and so that was

1611
01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:22.479
<v Speaker 3>maybe another appeal to authority here of like hey, if

1612
01:17:22.479 --> 01:17:26.000
<v Speaker 3>those smart guys liked him, maybe they're seeing the potential

1613
01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:27.840
<v Speaker 3>to get back to that kind of skill set. So

1614
01:17:27.880 --> 01:17:29.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I don't have a lot of conviction

1615
01:17:29.720 --> 01:17:32.159
<v Speaker 3>about this one, Like this is one that it was more,

1616
01:17:32.520 --> 01:17:36.439
<v Speaker 3>hey he slipped, maybe there was something going on and

1617
01:17:36.760 --> 01:17:38.000
<v Speaker 3>let's bet on a bounce back.

1618
01:17:38.920 --> 01:17:42.560
<v Speaker 2>I already mentioned Orlando. I got him in every draft,

1619
01:17:42.560 --> 01:17:45.239
<v Speaker 2>but I could there was one that I just didn't

1620
01:17:45.279 --> 01:17:47.079
<v Speaker 2>have a high enough pick. I didn't pick the like

1621
01:17:47.119 --> 01:17:49.399
<v Speaker 2>the third round of a large league or something like that.

1622
01:17:49.680 --> 01:17:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Anytime I've had a real high pick and couldn't trade it,

1623
01:17:53.840 --> 01:17:56.920
<v Speaker 2>I took Chase Burns. I got two shares of Chase Burns.

1624
01:17:57.800 --> 01:18:01.520
<v Speaker 2>I've gotten Griffin Burkholder twice and I think way later

1625
01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:05.279
<v Speaker 2>than I imagined, like in the thirties, So I thought that

1626
01:18:05.439 --> 01:18:07.840
<v Speaker 2>was a good deal. I don't know if you watched

1627
01:18:07.960 --> 01:18:08.520
<v Speaker 2>late and.

1628
01:18:09.119 --> 01:18:10.600
<v Speaker 3>I watched a bit of him, but he went pretty

1629
01:18:10.680 --> 01:18:12.560
<v Speaker 3>late in the show draft, didn't he like. I was

1630
01:18:12.720 --> 01:18:14.319
<v Speaker 3>a little surprised he wasn't taking it.

1631
01:18:14.920 --> 01:18:18.359
<v Speaker 2>And again before yeah, I got one share of JD. Dix,

1632
01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:20.880
<v Speaker 2>good look and switch hitter from Wisconsin. I like quite

1633
01:18:20.880 --> 01:18:24.000
<v Speaker 2>a bit, and I do buy that if it were

1634
01:18:24.079 --> 01:18:27.119
<v Speaker 2>not for a shoulder injury his senior year high schools,

1635
01:18:27.319 --> 01:18:30.479
<v Speaker 2>that's a first round sort of talent. I do buy

1636
01:18:30.520 --> 01:18:33.640
<v Speaker 2>that narrative. You got to share Jared Thomas fairly late.

1637
01:18:33.680 --> 01:18:36.439
<v Speaker 2>I think that was in my true first year player draft.

1638
01:18:36.520 --> 01:18:39.279
<v Speaker 2>I think that was my last pick. Got a share

1639
01:18:39.359 --> 01:18:42.560
<v Speaker 2>of Trey Gregory Alford as the last pick in one

1640
01:18:42.600 --> 01:18:44.880
<v Speaker 2>of these drafts. We've talked about him a little bit

1641
01:18:44.920 --> 01:18:48.560
<v Speaker 2>I think before right, but from out of here in Colorado, Yep.

1642
01:18:48.600 --> 01:18:50.920
<v Speaker 2>It was a fast riser his senior year high school.

1643
01:18:51.079 --> 01:18:54.279
<v Speaker 2>And you know, hopefully his developmental path can look something

1644
01:18:54.319 --> 01:18:57.640
<v Speaker 2>like Cayden Dana and get that trade value up there

1645
01:18:57.640 --> 01:19:02.000
<v Speaker 2>and I will send you and then by one league

1646
01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:05.119
<v Speaker 2>that we don't have prospect pickups in, which is really

1647
01:19:05.199 --> 01:19:07.279
<v Speaker 2>makes for a really fun draft too. Write I mean

1648
01:19:07.520 --> 01:19:12.439
<v Speaker 2>the first round we had Campbell and Made and stuff

1649
01:19:12.479 --> 01:19:15.239
<v Speaker 2>like it makes for a loaded first round. But I'm

1650
01:19:15.279 --> 01:19:20.640
<v Speaker 2>just super interested in Conrad Cason, who I think what

1651
01:19:20.680 --> 01:19:22.439
<v Speaker 2>the Red Sox took in the eighth round if I

1652
01:19:22.439 --> 01:19:26.600
<v Speaker 2>remember right, highly rated prap player. I think Perfect Game

1653
01:19:26.680 --> 01:19:29.359
<v Speaker 2>has had him in their top ten. I think the

1654
01:19:29.399 --> 01:19:31.319
<v Speaker 2>tricky part with him is you don't really know what

1655
01:19:31.399 --> 01:19:34.319
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna be. He's drafted as a two way player.

1656
01:19:34.680 --> 01:19:37.520
<v Speaker 2>I had a big arm. The bat really came on

1657
01:19:38.199 --> 01:19:40.600
<v Speaker 2>his senior year of high school. I kind of like

1658
01:19:40.680 --> 01:19:42.960
<v Speaker 2>the landing spot for a bat with the Red Sox

1659
01:19:43.039 --> 01:19:45.720
<v Speaker 2>these days with the stuff that they're doing increasing bat

1660
01:19:45.800 --> 01:19:48.840
<v Speaker 2>speed and things like that. But I thought, in this format,

1661
01:19:48.840 --> 01:19:50.840
<v Speaker 2>I think it was my last pick, it's going to

1662
01:19:50.920 --> 01:19:53.199
<v Speaker 2>force me to hang on to him right, can't drop him,

1663
01:19:53.319 --> 01:19:56.279
<v Speaker 2>can't pick anybody out. So I snagged the share there

1664
01:19:56.399 --> 01:19:59.079
<v Speaker 2>just I will be forced to be married to him

1665
01:19:59.079 --> 01:20:00.760
<v Speaker 2>for a little while and see what happens. But like,

1666
01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:03.439
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, just an interesting guy, can throw hard,

1667
01:20:03.520 --> 01:20:06.079
<v Speaker 2>can run, can hit. I don't know. I'll see what happens.

1668
01:20:06.199 --> 01:20:09.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, Cason made it into a real solid big leaguer

1669
01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:13.319
<v Speaker 3>in my In one of my OTP leagues, it was

1670
01:20:13.359 --> 01:20:17.039
<v Speaker 3>my he was my utility backup infielder for like his

1671
01:20:17.159 --> 01:20:20.640
<v Speaker 3>whole controllable seasons, and not because he wasn't good. I

1672
01:20:20.720 --> 01:20:23.000
<v Speaker 3>just ended up having like absolute studs all around the

1673
01:20:23.039 --> 01:20:25.720
<v Speaker 3>infield and he could play all for infield positions, so

1674
01:20:25.840 --> 01:20:28.359
<v Speaker 3>like anytime anybody needed a rest, he was the backup

1675
01:20:28.399 --> 01:20:30.880
<v Speaker 3>for everybody, and he was super useful, like really really

1676
01:20:30.920 --> 01:20:34.720
<v Speaker 3>good player. So if OTP is to be believed, then

1677
01:20:34.760 --> 01:20:36.720
<v Speaker 3>there's a real shot that he's a big league regular.

1678
01:20:36.840 --> 01:20:39.039
<v Speaker 2>Any first year of players that you have not gotten

1679
01:20:39.159 --> 01:20:43.399
<v Speaker 2>yet that you really wish that you had to share of, no, I.

1680
01:20:43.319 --> 01:20:46.039
<v Speaker 3>Mean, like I like we talked about right at the

1681
01:20:46.439 --> 01:20:48.920
<v Speaker 3>after the draft last year, I think Bizana was the

1682
01:20:48.960 --> 01:20:52.760
<v Speaker 3>best guy you know, non Rokie division in the draft.

1683
01:20:53.039 --> 01:20:56.000
<v Speaker 3>I think that that's still true, you know, after all

1684
01:20:56.039 --> 01:20:59.000
<v Speaker 3>the cutting things up, after everything, I still think I

1685
01:20:59.079 --> 01:21:00.920
<v Speaker 3>like him the best. I will a little surprised that

1686
01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:02.920
<v Speaker 3>his strikeout rate ticked up to what it did, but

1687
01:21:02.960 --> 01:21:04.760
<v Speaker 3>everything else looked like the guy that I got to

1688
01:21:04.800 --> 01:21:07.560
<v Speaker 3>see live a couple of times, like that dude really

1689
01:21:07.640 --> 01:21:10.920
<v Speaker 3>really can rake. So that was still be the guy

1690
01:21:10.960 --> 01:21:13.079
<v Speaker 3>that I would take first if it was just the

1691
01:21:13.159 --> 01:21:16.159
<v Speaker 3>true draft eligible guys. A couple other guys that I like.

1692
01:21:16.199 --> 01:21:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh the one other guy I didn't mention that I

1693
01:21:17.880 --> 01:21:21.159
<v Speaker 3>took late in a draft was Wyatt Sandford. He's seems

1694
01:21:21.159 --> 01:21:22.079
<v Speaker 3>somewhat divisive.

1695
01:21:22.399 --> 01:21:22.680
<v Speaker 2>I know.

1696
01:21:23.119 --> 01:21:25.039
<v Speaker 3>I asked Jeff Ponts about him in the Dynasty dug

1697
01:21:25.039 --> 01:21:27.920
<v Speaker 3>at Discord, and Jeff said that he just really didn't

1698
01:21:27.960 --> 01:21:29.800
<v Speaker 3>think the bat was going to be a carrying tool

1699
01:21:29.920 --> 01:21:33.159
<v Speaker 3>and maybe he sticks it short, maybe not. So I

1700
01:21:33.199 --> 01:21:35.159
<v Speaker 3>think he was down on him a bit for fantasy,

1701
01:21:35.279 --> 01:21:37.720
<v Speaker 3>just like weren't fantasy friendly tools there, and that might

1702
01:21:37.720 --> 01:21:40.039
<v Speaker 3>be true. I have only seen a bit of the

1703
01:21:40.439 --> 01:21:42.399
<v Speaker 3>high school tape that we've seen, but I know other

1704
01:21:42.399 --> 01:21:44.760
<v Speaker 3>folks have ranked him as like a top thirty ish

1705
01:21:44.920 --> 01:21:47.199
<v Speaker 3>kind of guy. So where I got him at like

1706
01:21:47.279 --> 01:21:50.439
<v Speaker 3>ninety something. I was like, Okay, fine, I'll snag him there.

1707
01:21:50.560 --> 01:21:53.159
<v Speaker 2>I got a few more drafts left, maybe it'll happen.

1708
01:21:53.199 --> 01:21:55.800
<v Speaker 2>But I would kind of like a share of Trey's

1709
01:21:55.880 --> 01:21:58.479
<v Speaker 2>Savage or yes and didche or however.

1710
01:21:58.640 --> 01:22:01.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's one then I think looks interesting. I watched

1711
01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:03.760
<v Speaker 3>a bit of him. And the other one that I

1712
01:22:03.880 --> 01:22:06.479
<v Speaker 3>was gonna mention in the same breath was Hagan Smith. Like,

1713
01:22:06.600 --> 01:22:10.239
<v Speaker 3>I think Hagan Smith looks top here pitcher material to me,

1714
01:22:10.439 --> 01:22:12.800
<v Speaker 3>Like I love what he did in college, and so

1715
01:22:13.039 --> 01:22:16.399
<v Speaker 3>I think his slider is ridiculous. So I was a

1716
01:22:16.399 --> 01:22:19.279
<v Speaker 3>big fan of and I liked you Yes Savage as well.

1717
01:22:19.359 --> 01:22:21.840
<v Speaker 2>But I feel like I just kind of one of

1718
01:22:21.880 --> 01:22:24.880
<v Speaker 2>our guys, like it's gonna have a lot of offerings,

1719
01:22:24.880 --> 01:22:27.840
<v Speaker 2>gonna mix it up, well, maybe some of all parts

1720
01:22:28.119 --> 01:22:29.520
<v Speaker 2>you know better sort of guy.

1721
01:22:29.720 --> 01:22:32.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I also the other the only other arm that

1722
01:22:32.560 --> 01:22:36.600
<v Speaker 3>I took was Ryan for Kucci. He said, Ryan for

1723
01:22:36.720 --> 01:22:41.319
<v Speaker 3>couci Astro's arm was injured. Good traits on the fastball

1724
01:22:41.720 --> 01:22:44.119
<v Speaker 3>and slider. I mean kind of was like Johnny right

1725
01:22:44.159 --> 01:22:46.680
<v Speaker 3>hinder to me, but then had TJ and fell and

1726
01:22:46.760 --> 01:22:49.000
<v Speaker 3>so maybe it's like actually first round talent and I

1727
01:22:49.079 --> 01:22:50.720
<v Speaker 3>just sit on him for a year and see if

1728
01:22:50.720 --> 01:22:53.960
<v Speaker 3>it comes back in a good development. Pitching organization didn't

1729
01:22:53.960 --> 01:22:57.319
<v Speaker 3>feel strongly about it. He's likely cutable for me at

1730
01:22:57.319 --> 01:23:00.119
<v Speaker 3>some point. I actually, in that draft took him and

1731
01:23:00.119 --> 01:23:02.840
<v Speaker 3>then immediately regretted it because there were like four other

1732
01:23:03.159 --> 01:23:06.439
<v Speaker 3>guys that weren't on my Like I had farther down

1733
01:23:06.439 --> 01:23:08.079
<v Speaker 3>on my pref list and I was just on my

1734
01:23:08.159 --> 01:23:10.319
<v Speaker 3>phone doing something else. I was like, oh, yeah, he's

1735
01:23:10.359 --> 01:23:12.439
<v Speaker 3>near the top, Like we'll take an arm here, And

1736
01:23:12.640 --> 01:23:15.159
<v Speaker 3>in retrospect, wish I would have taken some other guys,

1737
01:23:15.239 --> 01:23:17.560
<v Speaker 3>but I ended up with a sheriff for Couccie, and

1738
01:23:17.680 --> 01:23:19.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm intrigued. I'll also shout out again. I know we've

1739
01:23:19.840 --> 01:23:22.399
<v Speaker 3>talked about him before, but Nick Brink and Sam Sturr,

1740
01:23:22.720 --> 01:23:25.880
<v Speaker 3>my two buddies from University of Portland. Brink was the

1741
01:23:25.880 --> 01:23:28.439
<v Speaker 3>only of the two that got into a game last year,

1742
01:23:28.439 --> 01:23:30.479
<v Speaker 3>but it wasn't televised and it was a bad kind

1743
01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:33.159
<v Speaker 3>of like inning and two thirds or whatever. Outing But Brink,

1744
01:23:33.479 --> 01:23:37.000
<v Speaker 3>I just love his stuff and his pitch ability and

1745
01:23:37.039 --> 01:23:40.840
<v Speaker 3>his competitiveness, and he's a cerebral pitcher, but like he's

1746
01:23:40.840 --> 01:23:42.960
<v Speaker 3>still got a really great stuff. I think he's going

1747
01:23:43.039 --> 01:23:44.760
<v Speaker 3>to be a fun one to watch this year. And

1748
01:23:44.840 --> 01:23:47.680
<v Speaker 3>Stir he's like, could be up to ninety eight ninety

1749
01:23:47.720 --> 01:23:50.359
<v Speaker 3>nine on the fastball, we'll see, you know, the protein

1750
01:23:50.439 --> 01:23:52.880
<v Speaker 3>might even unlock that that extra couple of ticks. Like

1751
01:23:52.880 --> 01:23:56.920
<v Speaker 3>it's impressive stuff and could be really a really good

1752
01:23:56.960 --> 01:23:59.800
<v Speaker 3>slider cutter combo too. So he's one that could be

1753
01:23:59.840 --> 01:24:01.800
<v Speaker 3>really really fun. The command isn't as good with Stir,

1754
01:24:01.920 --> 01:24:04.359
<v Speaker 3>but the arm talent or the like, the velocity and

1755
01:24:04.520 --> 01:24:06.960
<v Speaker 3>pitch shapes are maybe a touch better than Brink. But Brink,

1756
01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:09.640
<v Speaker 3>I just think it's a fantastic pitcher. So I'd watch

1757
01:24:09.800 --> 01:24:13.039
<v Speaker 3>those two. I didn't draft either again, I think neither

1758
01:24:13.079 --> 01:24:16.039
<v Speaker 3>are rostered more than zero or one percent, but definitely

1759
01:24:16.159 --> 01:24:18.319
<v Speaker 3>put them on some watch lists and try and watch

1760
01:24:18.319 --> 01:24:20.439
<v Speaker 3>some of their early starts. If they're chopping up as

1761
01:24:20.479 --> 01:24:23.199
<v Speaker 3>advanced college arms. I could see both moving pretty quickly.

1762
01:24:23.239 --> 01:24:25.119
<v Speaker 3>And you like them both a lot. We've seen a

1763
01:24:25.119 --> 01:24:27.800
<v Speaker 3>lot of like pretty great pitchers come out of the

1764
01:24:27.840 --> 01:24:30.560
<v Speaker 3>West Coast Conference in the last few years and are

1765
01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:35.239
<v Speaker 3>reigning alsy young winner. Just he's a Seattle you guy,

1766
01:24:35.319 --> 01:24:39.880
<v Speaker 3>so Northwest guy. So anyway, these kinds of college Armsnesser

1767
01:24:39.960 --> 01:24:42.399
<v Speaker 3>Jerman also Seattle you one of our very favorite B

1768
01:24:42.520 --> 01:24:44.680
<v Speaker 3>side arms. So I could see these guys following that

1769
01:24:44.720 --> 01:24:47.960
<v Speaker 3>in that footsteps because as far as like their performance

1770
01:24:48.000 --> 01:24:50.600
<v Speaker 3>in college goes, these guys were better than those guys.

1771
01:24:50.640 --> 01:24:52.720
<v Speaker 2>So the one guy I haven't gotten the shareff yet

1772
01:24:52.760 --> 01:24:54.600
<v Speaker 2>that I would like to, but I'm not too stressed

1773
01:24:54.600 --> 01:24:57.520
<v Speaker 2>about it because nobody seems to be a fan. But uh,

1774
01:24:57.680 --> 01:25:00.640
<v Speaker 2>Devin Fitzgerald of the Rangers. I know mentioned him in

1775
01:25:00.680 --> 01:25:03.800
<v Speaker 2>the discord. But if there's like kind of a prep

1776
01:25:03.880 --> 01:25:06.640
<v Speaker 2>bat B sider for me, it would be him right now.

1777
01:25:06.640 --> 01:25:09.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he deserves to be a B sider,

1778
01:25:09.159 --> 01:25:11.439
<v Speaker 2>But like I said, if you want like a JD.

1779
01:25:11.600 --> 01:25:16.199
<v Speaker 2>Dick sort of switch hitter, athletic strong infield, I don't know,

1780
01:25:16.239 --> 01:25:18.079
<v Speaker 2>maybe you can stick a short stop. I don't think

1781
01:25:18.119 --> 01:25:21.479
<v Speaker 2>fitzgerald is is much different of a play than JD. Dick's.

1782
01:25:21.640 --> 01:25:24.239
<v Speaker 2>Maybe a little bit smaller, But I know the Rangers

1783
01:25:24.319 --> 01:25:26.720
<v Speaker 2>liked him a lot and prioritized him and popped him

1784
01:25:26.720 --> 01:25:28.960
<v Speaker 2>in the fifth round and got him signed. And other

1785
01:25:29.039 --> 01:25:31.359
<v Speaker 2>than Dan being dickhead, Dan.

1786
01:25:32.239 --> 01:25:34.600
<v Speaker 3>I was funny.

1787
01:25:34.760 --> 01:25:38.319
<v Speaker 2>Else You're welcome, Yeah, you guys.

1788
01:25:38.560 --> 01:25:41.600
<v Speaker 3>I was complicit in that one, and he specifically said,

1789
01:25:41.640 --> 01:25:43.760
<v Speaker 3>come on, let me snipe handy here, and I was like,

1790
01:25:43.840 --> 01:25:45.119
<v Speaker 3>all right, I mean whatever.

1791
01:25:45.319 --> 01:25:48.000
<v Speaker 2>He likes to play us against each other like that, Yeah,

1792
01:25:48.119 --> 01:25:49.439
<v Speaker 2>all in good fun, all and good.

1793
01:25:49.720 --> 01:25:52.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean our other buddy, Maddy Backpack just took

1794
01:25:52.680 --> 01:25:54.560
<v Speaker 3>a pick in our in our the show draft. Do

1795
01:25:54.640 --> 01:25:57.439
<v Speaker 3>we want to rip that pick apart? And it was

1796
01:25:58.000 --> 01:26:00.880
<v Speaker 3>Harlan and Dodgers like fourth rounder Chase Harden.

1797
01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:03.680
<v Speaker 2>He loves Dodgers, doesn't he?

1798
01:26:03.840 --> 01:26:05.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeap who doesn't? They all turn out so well?

1799
01:26:06.359 --> 01:26:08.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hall of famers, all of them. All right, match,

1800
01:26:08.520 --> 01:26:09.399
<v Speaker 2>we wrap this one up.

1801
01:26:09.479 --> 01:26:11.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's do it, all right? Chatting with you again,

1802
01:26:11.840 --> 01:26:13.279
<v Speaker 3>my dude, this was awesome.

1803
01:26:13.239 --> 01:26:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dude, Yeah, appreciate it. We'll call that episode forty

1804
01:26:16.720 --> 01:26:19.680
<v Speaker 2>eight of the Prospect B Side Podcast. You can follow

1805
01:26:19.720 --> 01:26:22.920
<v Speaker 2>me along on Twitter at Pitching Specs. You can follow

1806
01:26:22.960 --> 01:26:26.800
<v Speaker 2>me on Blue Sky at Muddy Looks. I know it's

1807
01:26:26.800 --> 01:26:29.680
<v Speaker 2>been a minute since I've dropped some videos and we've

1808
01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:32.359
<v Speaker 2>recorded and stuff like that, but I will say I

1809
01:26:32.399 --> 01:26:35.520
<v Speaker 2>have not been lacking on my homework. Got some things

1810
01:26:35.560 --> 01:26:38.960
<v Speaker 2>in the works and just trying to compile some videos

1811
01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:42.159
<v Speaker 2>and we have to share that Hopefully I'll get to

1812
01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:45.000
<v Speaker 2>share that with folks at some point in the future here.

1813
01:26:45.039 --> 01:26:47.680
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, well I think we'll let Chicago Farmer take

1814
01:26:47.760 --> 01:26:50.680
<v Speaker 2>us out and be well, we'll talk to you next time.

1815
01:26:50.960 --> 01:26:57.119
<v Speaker 3>Bye, bab miles an hour riding too is he You

1816
01:26:57.239 --> 01:26:59.319
<v Speaker 3>have them down first, but the.

1817
01:27:00.319 --> 01:27:04.039
<v Speaker 1>Bone in his face, and on the very next pitch

1818
01:27:04.439 --> 01:27:12.800
<v Speaker 1>he up and stole second face with gradest speed. He

1819
01:27:13.039 --> 01:27:20.279
<v Speaker 1>wasn't born, but he had dird yes uniforn