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Speaker 5: he's out today and he had to do the postgame
Speaker 5: show Saturday. What a what a tough break. I haven't
Speaker 5: listened to it, and you know, no offense to Austin,
Speaker 5: but like I probably won't because, like you know, I
Speaker 5: got to talk about it myself and it's a sad
Speaker 5: situation in general. So again, more opportunities for you guys
Speaker 5: to join us today and we'll do that throughout. So
Speaker 5: once you just let me get through and share my
Speaker 5: thoughts and the way I see it, then we'll we'll
Speaker 5: we'll get to you guys. So I mean, look, it
Speaker 5: sucked everything about it, and I thought about it since yesterday.
Speaker 5: On my drive home yesterday morning, I was thinking, Okay,
Speaker 5: am I overreacting? Is this recency biased? Is is this
Speaker 5: Is this really as bad as I want to say
Speaker 5: it is, because I want to say this is the
Speaker 5: worst Louisville football loss that I that I that I
Speaker 5: can remember that I've experienced. Now again, everybody's different, right,
Speaker 5: I mean, and I'm not even really talking about the emotion,
Speaker 5: because there's certain losses that you know, if you lose
Speaker 5: to your rival, if you you you know, you made
Speaker 5: it all the way. I mean, if Louisville was just
Speaker 5: imagine if Louisville like lost an opportunity to compete in
Speaker 5: the ACC championship with that loss on Saturday. So like
Speaker 5: those are ones where outside of you know, the whole conversation,
Speaker 5: is this one of the worst losses of all time?
Speaker 5: You know, the other layer is okay, you know it
Speaker 5: was it a punch to the gut. For example, last
Speaker 5: year when Louisville lost to Kentucky. I mean that didn't
Speaker 5: change anything about like the rest of the season for Louisville,
Speaker 5: but because again last game of the year. But obviously
Speaker 5: you know that wasn't about the record. I mean you
Speaker 5: still finished ten and two and you could have been
Speaker 5: eleven and one, so technically, you know, it did impact
Speaker 5: it in that way, but like that was just about
Speaker 5: getting bragging Rice back and overall it didn't change much
Speaker 5: of anything for Louisville at that time, but obviously it
Speaker 5: felt really bad because you know, that was the year
Speaker 5: to get them. So you know, take the emotional part
Speaker 5: of it out of it, because I think again certain
Speaker 5: losses may hit people differently, just depending upon everybody's individual
Speaker 5: way of looking at it. But for me, I think,
Speaker 5: you know, as far as a loss that let me
Speaker 5: let me let me rephrase, I think you could claim
Speaker 5: this is the you know, I actually you can claim
Speaker 5: what you want.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say this.
Speaker 5: I think this is the worst loss I've ever experienced
Speaker 5: as a Louisville football fan because of who you lost
Speaker 5: to and how it happened. Like Stanford didn't even do
Speaker 5: anything good, and we all know they're not good.
Speaker 2: They haven't.
Speaker 5: They hadn't won a game in two months, They hadn't
Speaker 5: had seemingly any momentum since they beat Syracuse, and I'm
Speaker 5: sure they had maybe a momentum type drive or something
Speaker 5: in the two months between their wins, but like they
Speaker 5: didn't do anything to like put you on your heels
Speaker 5: and give themselves a chance to win the game. They
Speaker 5: just took advantage of how undisciplined, how sloppy, and how
Speaker 5: Louisville wanted to give them the game. I mean, that's
Speaker 5: that's so, you know, it's terrible from from that aspect,
Speaker 5: as far as how bad Stanford is. You were twenty
Speaker 5: and a half point favorites. I mean, I think that
Speaker 5: just when it comes to point spreads, it's a top
Speaker 5: five loss of all time when it comes to just
Speaker 5: you being favored by that much and losing outright.
Speaker 2: But I also think it's.
Speaker 5: Even worse when you consider like what happened, like the
Speaker 5: way in which they lost. I mean, you you really
Speaker 5: can't make it up. You know, there are things that
Speaker 5: like and I haven't looked at it. Maybe I should
Speaker 5: because it would have been worthwhile to have these numbers
Speaker 5: as I start the show today, But like, I can't
Speaker 5: go looking up the percentage chances that they had to
Speaker 5: win up until they actually did it, because it would
Speaker 5: just make it you know, it wouldn't surprise me. It
Speaker 5: would be pretty you know, obvious, because there's certain things
Speaker 5: that Louisville had to do to give them a chance
Speaker 5: to win the game they did, and Louisville did it
Speaker 5: pretty consistently with a lot of you know, just a
Speaker 5: variety of errors from everybody involved, play calling from the
Speaker 5: coaching staff, just undisciplined, stupid penalties. I mean, just a
Speaker 5: just a just a bad game overall. So you know,
Speaker 5: it sucked.
Speaker 2: It really did.
Speaker 5: And as I mentioned a moment ago, like we're gonna
Speaker 5: we're gonna let you guys react and let you guys
Speaker 5: sound off. But I really don't know if anybody's gonna
Speaker 5: have a different opinion on what happens Saturday. I mean,
Speaker 5: like usually everybody knows if a team won, er they lost,
Speaker 5: and what the score was. But there's different different types
Speaker 5: of opinions that you get from that, right, I mean,
Speaker 5: that's what that's what this is, that's what sports radio is,
Speaker 5: that's what postgame shows are really for. But as far
Speaker 5: as just what happens Saturday, I'm not really sure if
Speaker 5: there's gonna be anybody providing like a different and unique
Speaker 5: perspective on what happened, because I don't. I mean, I
Speaker 5: think it was I mean, it's pretty clear what happened,
Speaker 5: like that was the ultimate terrible loss.
Speaker 2: So you know, for me, I'm not sad.
Speaker 5: I'm not even really angry because like, who would I
Speaker 5: be angry at, like team and I But you know,
Speaker 5: I guess if I was going to direct anger towards people,
Speaker 5: I would do it towards everybody involved. But like, you know,
Speaker 5: that's just not really how I'm you know, I've not
Speaker 5: been sitting around for the last two days thinking, oh
Speaker 5: these can believe that, you know, It's it's just what
Speaker 5: makes this weird, and this season, by the way, it's
Speaker 5: just been weird altogether. But what makes this weird is
Speaker 5: that like you deserve to lose that game one thousand percent,
Speaker 5: So like you know, yeah, you do that, and you
Speaker 5: you know, you play like that, you make those kind
Speaker 5: of mistakes, you know, things that you just ultimately can't
Speaker 5: do in a close game late you did, like you
Speaker 5: know that. That's That's what's different for me with this
Speaker 5: loss than a lot of others that I would chalk
Speaker 5: up as like, oh man, that sucked.
Speaker 2: How they lose that? You got to be kidding me?
Speaker 5: Is that like they made it quite clear really seemingly
Speaker 5: every play down the very down the stretch in the
Speaker 5: very end of the game, that they deserve to lose.
Speaker 5: So like, you know, you got what you deserved. I mean,
Speaker 5: that's that's that's that's what happened. And look, I says
Speaker 5: mentioned a moment ago, this season has just been weird,
Speaker 5: and I know I said that probably more times than
Speaker 5: I need to, and I hope that I'm able to
Speaker 5: describe what has just made it weird for me, but
Speaker 5: I'll try once more. You know, at this point, Clemson
Speaker 5: is the outlier, like that game was the outlier, because
Speaker 5: really throughout Louisville has been maybe not a team that
Speaker 5: was as bad when it comes to just making dumb
Speaker 5: mistakes and you know, being undisciplined and defense just reverting
Speaker 5: back to like not really being locked in and you know,
Speaker 5: committing a comedy of errors that kind of stuff. You know,
Speaker 5: like that that's kind of who you know Saturday. Saturday
Speaker 5: was next level, But like because we've seen it happen,
Speaker 5: even in games they've won, I don't know how many
Speaker 5: people could watch that thing and be in disbelief the
Speaker 5: way you probably expected to be in disbelief as far
Speaker 5: as how it all played out. So when I say
Speaker 5: it's weird, is that you know, they've they all year.
Speaker 5: They've been a pretty sloppy team. They've been undisciplined, They're
Speaker 5: towards the bottom of the acc when it comes to penalties.
Speaker 5: You know, they've they've made mistakes that I think seem
Speaker 5: to be pretty avoidable, you know, mental mistakes that make
Speaker 5: it hard for you to see yourself winning game after
Speaker 5: you make said mistake. And really that's they played ten games,
Speaker 5: and that's kind of who they've been all year. If
Speaker 5: I'm being honest with you, not to say that, like
Speaker 5: the season's been terrible, you've got a good chance to
Speaker 5: potentially well, I don't know if I believe that, right now,
Speaker 5: But I also can't say that I'd be stunned if
Speaker 5: they do win against Pittsburgh and then they beat Kentucky
Speaker 5: and they finish eight and four, and like that wouldn't
Speaker 5: be a year that we'd have to say that was,
Speaker 5: you know, the worst lowel of football season ever. So
Speaker 5: you know, it's just been weird, right, Eight and four
Speaker 5: is typically a good or sometimes really good year, depending
Speaker 5: upon you know, your schedule that kind of stuff, and
Speaker 5: obviously what expectations were before the season starts. But like,
Speaker 5: I've never felt like this team is in the position
Speaker 5: that they're in where they lose some of these games
Speaker 5: or they barely hold on against teams you feel like
Speaker 5: you should have blown out, like because they don't have
Speaker 5: good enough players, And I think that that's what ultimately
Speaker 5: makes it just, you know, different weird. Like I'll ask
Speaker 5: Louisville fans this, have you do you feel like you've
Speaker 5: watched Louisville lose more than two games this year where
Speaker 5: you felt like it was because the other team was
Speaker 5: just better. And I don't want to act like Louisville
Speaker 5: could go beat anybody if they play well, and like
Speaker 5: you just you know, I'm not saying this team should
Speaker 5: be sitting here ten and oh right now, trust me,
Speaker 5: because I think Miami was just better than you. You know,
Speaker 5: you could have won. But like, that's not one where
Speaker 5: I'm like, man, how do we lose to those guys?
Speaker 5: And in a weird way, I kind of say the
Speaker 5: same thing about SMU, like they just I mean, maybe
Speaker 5: if you don't give them two easy touchdown drives that
Speaker 5: were effortless for them on the first two plays of
Speaker 5: the game, then maybe it's a little bit different. But
Speaker 5: they came out there in your house and really just
Speaker 5: I mean, they set the tone and you had to
Speaker 5: play from behind, and you were there with a chance
Speaker 5: maybe to win a shootout and you know you fell. Sure,
Speaker 5: But I don't. I don't sit here now and feel
Speaker 5: like Louisville. You know again, I give SMU a lot
Speaker 5: of credit, but I don't know if I'd sit back
Speaker 5: and say, yeah, if they play that ten times, Louisvill's
Speaker 5: gonna have a really tough time beating them, you know, twice,
Speaker 5: because they're just so good when it comes to talent.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, are you.
Speaker 5: Guys with me Like Louisville, I don't feel like they've
Speaker 5: got the best roster of all time here at Louisville,
Speaker 5: but they're I don't think personnel is like a problem.
Speaker 5: Your star freshman running back gets hurt and then you
Speaker 5: put in another freshman running back who was sensational in
Speaker 5: Duke Watson.
Speaker 2: You know, Chuck.
Speaker 5: He you know, he's he's at times showed that he
Speaker 5: you know, he can make mistakes. He's not perfect. But
Speaker 5: I don't worry about Louisville having a good enough quarterback
Speaker 5: to go win games against these teams. I mean, the
Speaker 5: offensive line, Let's be real. They were criticized and I
Speaker 5: think it was deserved early on this year. But I mean,
Speaker 5: and again they played Stanford, but like they didn't give
Speaker 5: up a tackle for a loss. I mean they've they've
Speaker 5: really put it together as of late. Defensively. I mean,
Speaker 5: maybe guys regress and maybe some of it is on
Speaker 5: you know, maybe some of it is on the players individually.
Speaker 5: I mean it is like the players have to take
Speaker 5: accountability as well. But like I still think from a
Speaker 5: defensive perspective, like I don't think that like you are
Speaker 5: terrible when it comes to it's not even that I
Speaker 5: don't think you're terrible. Like I think you have good
Speaker 5: enough players to where if you were a little bit
Speaker 5: more sharp and you you know, you didn't make avoidable mistakes,
Speaker 5: and you were a little more disciplined, you again, you
Speaker 5: probably wouldn't be ten and zero, but maybe you'd be
Speaker 5: eight and two, nine and one. And they're not terribly
Speaker 5: far from that, right. We're not talking about a three
Speaker 5: you know, a three and five team or four and
Speaker 5: six team, but like they just should be better. And
Speaker 5: that's I mean, put it this way, Jeff Brams has
Speaker 5: said Jeff bromb has said this many times throughout the
Speaker 5: entire season, and it's really each time he said it,
Speaker 5: it stands out to me, and it's not some I mean,
Speaker 5: it's really what you would expect a coach to say,
Speaker 5: but for some reason, this specific quote from him, and
Speaker 5: I guess it's not really a quote, but it's just
Speaker 5: something that he has said many times. When discussing his
Speaker 5: team's shortfalls this year, he said that can't happen. He
Speaker 5: would tell you you could give you an honest answer
Speaker 5: as to why or as far as you know, what happened,
Speaker 5: where a play broke down or somebody made a mistake
Speaker 5: or you know, questionable decision by somebody, and then he
Speaker 5: always throws in at the end that can't happen, that
Speaker 5: can't happen, that can't happen.
Speaker 2: I mean, he said it a lot.
Speaker 5: Well, it's happening, and there's only one guy responsible for
Speaker 5: it continuing to happen, and that's Jeff Brom. So, you know,
Speaker 5: I think you guys are probably not going to be
Speaker 5: surprised to hear me say that. I still do not
Speaker 5: have any doubt in my mind that Jeff Brom is
Speaker 5: a good coach and he has the ability to, you know,
Speaker 5: he's a good enough coach in my opinion, for Louisville's
Speaker 5: program to win at a high level and maybe even
Speaker 5: accomplish some things we've never accomplished before, like last year
Speaker 5: when they made it to the a SEC Championship for
Speaker 5: the first time since they've been in the league. But
Speaker 5: right now, this team is six and four. They're underwhelming,
Speaker 5: it's disappointing, and there's ultimately one guy that's responsible.
Speaker 2: He's not the only one here.
Speaker 5: It's not like it's all his fault, but like he's
Speaker 5: the head coach here, he's making a lot of money.
Speaker 5: He knows and look, I don't think there's anything I
Speaker 5: said that he would disagree with. Maybe there is, I
Speaker 5: don't know, We'll never know, but my point is, like,
Speaker 5: you know, we got to call like it is. I
Speaker 5: don't think it means that the fan base wants him
Speaker 5: to be gone, but I do think they they want
Speaker 5: him to make some changes.
Speaker 2: To his staff.
Speaker 5: And there's one guy specifically that obviously comes to mind,
Speaker 5: and that's Ron English. And I don't know how you
Speaker 5: can do that for another season. I mean, I don't
Speaker 5: know what getting rid of him now would accomplish. In fact,
Speaker 5: there's you know, I'm not at all saying this has
Speaker 5: happened at Louisville or that I expected to. But in
Speaker 5: college football sometimes you get to this point of the
Speaker 5: season and coordinators know if they're coming back or not,
Speaker 5: and you know they're professional and you know they ride
Speaker 5: out the season. But and again, maybe Jeff will bring
Speaker 5: him back. I highly doubt it, but you know, usually
Speaker 5: with six with a six win team ten games in,
Speaker 5: still having a legitimate opportunity to go when your last
Speaker 5: two and go eight and four. I feel like this
Speaker 5: exact scenario in different eras, different seasons, we probably wouldn't
Speaker 5: feel the way that we feel right now and everybody.
Speaker 5: You know, maybe you guys feel totally different than me.
Speaker 5: That's something we'll find out when we get to the
Speaker 5: phone lines. But I will say, you know, like it's
Speaker 5: a reminder that with Bram here, we do have higher
Speaker 5: expectations because we expect to be better. That's why, that's
Speaker 5: why he's here. And also you know, I mean, I
Speaker 5: think when it comes to this, I mean this year
Speaker 5: and again I don't want to go back to what
Speaker 5: I've said probably way too many times when it comes
Speaker 5: to just the season has just been unusual when it
Speaker 5: comes to not really knowing like where you are. But
Speaker 5: after ten games, I kind of feel like, look, we
Speaker 5: know who this team is.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 5: There's nothing that would happen against pet or Kentucky that
Speaker 5: I can sit here and say would be like totally surprising,
Speaker 5: because you know, they've been rather consistent, and again Clemson
Speaker 5: is the outlier. But even when they are consistent and
Speaker 5: they make, you know, mistakes that you feel like are avoidable,
Speaker 5: they are undisciplined and make a boneheaded mistake and get
Speaker 5: a penalty that'll extend the drive for an opponent when
Speaker 5: you could have got off the field, or they'll make
Speaker 5: a penalty that'll kill your drive. Like those kinds of
Speaker 5: things have happened, right, Like, even in those games, even
Speaker 5: when you see that happen, you still watch them go
Speaker 5: out there at times and you can tell they've got
Speaker 5: like they've got good pieces, like they're a pretty good team.
Speaker 5: But the way everything about Saturday was just, you know,
Speaker 5: worst case scenario is a nightmare. And you know, I
Speaker 5: hope that they finished strong, but like I don't even
Speaker 5: at this point, and I'm sure by the time we
Speaker 5: get to you know, a little later in the week,
Speaker 5: it'll be different, but right now I really don't. I mean, again,
Speaker 5: what can I say about the pit game or the
Speaker 5: Kentucky game for that matter, as far as like, you know,
Speaker 5: like I feel like, if Louisville plays close to their potential,
Speaker 5: they should win these two games.
Speaker 2: But are they gonna do that?
Speaker 5: Are they gonna are they gonna give give us stretches
Speaker 5: of play where they look like they could you know
Speaker 5: that they're good, but then they'll you know, revert to
Speaker 5: doing just things you shouldn't be doing out there. I mean,
Speaker 5: just a bad weekend overall for Louisville fans. Jeff Walls
Speaker 5: and his team, They lose at Kentucky in the first
Speaker 5: game for Kenny Brooks as the Kentucky women's coach Lamar
Speaker 5: and the Ravens fall to the Steelers.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs finally lost. Do we care about that?
Speaker 5: I was happy to see the Chiefs lose, but that
Speaker 5: didn't do enough to where I you know, I feel
Speaker 5: like the weekend wasn't a disaster when it comes to
Speaker 5: the sports teams that I care about. Although Pat Kelsey
Speaker 5: and his team are back in action tomorrow against Bellerman
Speaker 5: and Coach Davenport's team does not have a win yet
Speaker 5: this year, so I feel good that we'll we'll see
Speaker 5: a victory for Louisville tomorrow, it won't mean much of anything.
Speaker 5: In fact, we didn't to have a conversation at some
Speaker 5: point about how, like, I know, playing this game is
Speaker 5: a good It's good for the city. That's what everybody says.
Speaker 5: It's what Pat Kelsey said earlier today, and I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna dispute that. But like you play certain teams within
Speaker 5: Division one, you only staying to suffer from it. I mean,
Speaker 5: I don't know if you can beat Bellerman buy enough
Speaker 5: points to where you're not going to go down in
Speaker 5: these formulas, and that's not I'm not taking a shot
Speaker 5: at Bellerman's program. Just stay in facts. So again, well
Speaker 5: we're not just going to be depressed about Leivell football today,
Speaker 5: but you know, obviously it's gonna be someth people want
Speaker 5: to talk about.
Speaker 2: So let's do this.
Speaker 5: We're gonna get to a quick break in just a moment,
Speaker 5: but I do want to go to get at least
Speaker 5: one phone call in before we get to break, because
Speaker 5: I know people have been waiting patiently, and I'm sure
Speaker 5: you've been wanting to discuss what happened on Saturday. So
Speaker 5: we will take a quick call here and then go
Speaker 5: to break and keep this thing rolling along. Let's go
Speaker 5: to Dave, who got in early today. Dave, how are
Speaker 5: we doing this afternoon, sir?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm still crying and recovering. You know, the last
Speaker 4: in the last second of the game, we get twenty
Speaker 4: yards and penalties to set up the game winning field goal,
Speaker 4: and Quincy Riley he continues to jump off side when
Speaker 4: the opponent sets up for field goal.
Speaker 7: How long is this going to go on?
Speaker 4: I mean, I just I can't believe how bad these
Speaker 4: guys playing. I mean, I'm just I'm a I'm a
Speaker 4: hard time adjusting that. Do you think have any idea
Speaker 4: about Isaac Brown?
Speaker 7: He finished for the season or so so.
Speaker 5: Jeff gave an answer earlier today when asked about him,
Speaker 5: and he didn't he just said, we'll see how he's
Speaker 5: gonna be, but we'll let you hear actually Jeff Brohm's
Speaker 5: comments after the after from earlier today at some point.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, it didn't look great. He didn't return.
Speaker 5: But you know, I would say if he's able to go,
Speaker 5: he will go this late in the year, but you
Speaker 5: never know now day when it comes to just you know,
Speaker 5: the Quincy Riley jumping off sides, I mean, look, I
Speaker 5: would say that, you know, he's talented enough, but like
Speaker 5: you know, a veteran, a guy who's believed to be,
Speaker 5: you know, a guy that's going to be drafted, you
Speaker 5: just can't continue to make those kind of mistakes. And
Speaker 5: you know, it's one thing to just have a guy
Speaker 5: not make a play, or have somebody you know miss
Speaker 5: a field goal, or you know, just just just you know,
Speaker 5: when it comes to football, stuff that you know you
Speaker 5: just can't do when you expect to win a game,
Speaker 5: like the penalties at the end of that game. I mean,
Speaker 5: I mean you literally did the only thing you needed,
Speaker 5: the two things you needed to do in order for
Speaker 5: them to not even run a play but kick the
Speaker 5: kick a field goal and win.
Speaker 2: I mean that's what they did. You gave the game
Speaker 2: to them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, it's exactly what you about.
Speaker 3: Jeff Brohm.
Speaker 4: You mentioned this last week that after in his career
Speaker 4: coaching career, after every significant win, he always follows that
Speaker 4: up with an immediate loss to a team that he
Speaker 4: should have beaten.
Speaker 2: Yep, if it trends for him, Yep, no doubt about it.
Speaker 8: Dave.
Speaker 5: I appreciate the call, get to hear from you. Yeah, look,
Speaker 5: I mean we can't run from that. Jeff can't run
Speaker 5: from it. I mean it's it's a thing when he
Speaker 5: has a notable win, rather it be you know, a
Speaker 5: big win that he was favored in or a win
Speaker 5: that you know was a big upset. And I don't
Speaker 5: have the numbers. Maybe we go look into it, but
Speaker 5: I mean he said it last year after they beat
Speaker 5: Notre Dame, like he was well aware that he'd had
Speaker 5: other games where they pulled off an upset, a real
Speaker 5: notable win for the program at Purdue, and then they
Speaker 5: would turn around and lose to a team that you know,
Speaker 5: they weren't supposed to lose to, or maybe they would
Speaker 5: just you know, they'd have a because again, get to
Speaker 5: keep in mind, when he was at Purdue, they were
Speaker 5: underdogs in a lot of Big Ten games for the
Speaker 5: most part, so you know, beating Ohio State at their place,
Speaker 5: and I'm not even sure if that was when one
Speaker 5: of the instances where this happened, but they did beat
Speaker 5: Ohio State once and it was at home, and then
Speaker 5: they also beat Michigan State at one point, I think
Speaker 5: when they were top ten.
Speaker 2: Same thing with Iowa.
Speaker 5: You know, the next week they might not have went
Speaker 5: out and lost to a team as bad as Stanford
Speaker 5: is this year, but it but you know, it's like,
Speaker 5: if you can go beat them, how how do you
Speaker 5: follow it up with a loss to a team that
Speaker 5: is nowhere on the same planet as the team you
Speaker 5: just beat. So that let down performance following the big
Speaker 5: win bye week or no bye week, it's happening. And
Speaker 5: man like I don't, I mean, I would just be
Speaker 5: talking on my rear end if I tried to give
Speaker 5: you any kind of of a of Aju justive or
Speaker 5: an explanation as to how that happens, like I have
Speaker 5: no clue, Like that's just that's that's but.
Speaker 2: This was the year where and again, this is what
Speaker 2: makes it so crazy.
Speaker 5: If you wanted to just give a result to end
Speaker 5: the chatter about that trend, that was it because you
Speaker 5: almost won a game where you didn't even play well.
Speaker 5: Like even whenever they were about to give the ball
Speaker 5: back to Stanford, I just I still felt like they
Speaker 5: were gonna win an overtime, like I just assumed that
Speaker 5: that would be what's happened, and you get out of there,
Speaker 5: like it was never really a thought in my mind
Speaker 5: that they would end up losing. And then you know,
Speaker 5: was it three or four straight plays where you just
Speaker 5: can tell, like, all right, everything that that you know
Speaker 5: needs to happen to keep Stanford alive to win this
Speaker 5: thing in regulation is happening, and then you know, sure enough.
Speaker 2: It happened.
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Speaker 5: We will let you hear Jeff Brahm's press conference from
Speaker 5: earlier today, probably in the four o'clock hour. Also, we've
Speaker 5: got some sound from Pat Kelsey, his team coming off
Speaker 5: a ten day break after that tough loss to Tennessee.
Speaker 5: So I wish there were some more challenges before you.
Speaker 5: And I shouldn't say that, you know, because I was, man,
Speaker 5: I was, I mean I never really thought about it
Speaker 5: until like right now at three point thirty one here
Speaker 5: on Monday. I mean, I think when I talked about
Speaker 5: the Stanford game on the pregame show, I know, last
Speaker 5: week on the show, I mean I never even entertained
Speaker 5: any scenario where Louisville wouldn't have won the game. And
Speaker 5: it wasn't because like I just think Louisville's so great.
Speaker 5: It was because like Stanford was that bad. So you know,
Speaker 5: maybe maybe I shouldn't be as confident. But man, if
Speaker 5: Louisville basketball has trouble with Ellerman and can't get by
Speaker 5: Winthrop before they take off the battle for Atlantis, that's
Speaker 5: no bueno. But I think they'll be in good shape tomorrow.
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Speaker 5: All right, we're gonna go to the phone lines here
Speaker 5: in just one second, but I do want to clarify
Speaker 5: just some numbers real quick here because I mentioned the loss.
Speaker 5: I know it was one of the bigger upsets Louisville
Speaker 5: has ever been on the wrong side of where they
Speaker 5: were favored by a lot and you know, couldn't get
Speaker 5: it done this one here. Let me pull up the
Speaker 5: actual numbers here courtesy of Kelly Dicky Real Card Game
Speaker 5: on Twitter if you're not following him, so louis will
Speaker 5: closed it minus twenty and a half the other games
Speaker 5: where they lost, there's only four games where they've lost
Speaker 5: as bigger favorites two thousand and seven when they were
Speaker 5: thirty seven and a half point favorites against Syracuse. The
Speaker 5: lost is Cincinnati in ninety one, which I have no
Speaker 5: memory of I was three years old, but they were
Speaker 5: twenty three point favorites, twenty seven and a half point
Speaker 5: favorites against Kentucky in twenty sixteen, and then South Florida
Speaker 5: in two thousand and five, they were twenty one point
Speaker 5: favorites and lost.
Speaker 2: I remember that game very vividly.
Speaker 5: That one actually just because of you being favored by
Speaker 5: twenty one and you lost forty five to fourteen. That one,
Speaker 5: that one's bad. But after that then it's this one.
Speaker 5: And I just think, you know, point spread is a
Speaker 5: part of it, but I think the other factors. I
Speaker 5: mean for me, I think it's worse, but everybody's got
Speaker 5: their own opinion on it.
Speaker 1: All.
Speaker 2: Right, let's go to the phone lines.
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Speaker 5: in Cody. Cody, how you doing this afternoon?
Speaker 7: Brother? Hey?
Speaker 8: Nick, what's happening?
Speaker 9: Man?
Speaker 8: I got a question. I'm just what is going on
Speaker 8: with these close lines? Like, I mean, I would rather
Speaker 8: than get blown out than get these close losses, dude,
Speaker 8: Like stuff is so frustrating. I mean, I can't just
Speaker 8: fathom how they can keep blowing these.
Speaker 3: Leads like this.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm with you, I'm with you, Cody, and I'll
Speaker 5: i'll and I want to say this because that that
Speaker 5: kind of it speaks to my whole thing about like
Speaker 5: this has just been. It's not the record, it's not
Speaker 5: like one specific incident. It's just been like I would
Speaker 5: rather get blown out than than than lose games like
Speaker 5: we saw Saturday and again. But both results if you're
Speaker 5: losing are still terrible. But like when they would lose
Speaker 5: to Notre Dame playing so poorly where you feel like, man,
Speaker 5: if they just do like one little thing better, they
Speaker 5: probably win. You know, same thing against same thing against SMU.
Speaker 5: You know, Lay just making the mistakes she can't make.
Speaker 2: So I'm with you on that.
Speaker 5: That's why it's just been weird to me, because six
Speaker 5: and four with a chance to go eight and four
Speaker 5: usually is not something that's just so frustrating. But the
Speaker 5: way everything is played out, Man, I'm with you, it's
Speaker 5: just been it's been brutal. I don't ever want to
Speaker 5: sign up to get blown out and get beat down,
Speaker 5: but I think this season has been has been an
Speaker 5: experience for me where I'm like, yeah, I think of
Speaker 5: the two bad options, I think I would take that.
Speaker 8: One absolutely, Nick. And there's two more things, two more
Speaker 8: quick things, Harry, I'm gonna hang up and listen and look.
Speaker 8: I mean, and obviously getting the Clemson win is great.
Speaker 8: I mean, that's obviously the probably the second biggest game
Speaker 8: on the schedule as far as being a fan where
Speaker 8: we want to win, aside from beating Kentucky. Nick, But
Speaker 8: one more thing on that play where at the end
Speaker 8: of the game where bron decided to go for it
Speaker 8: on fourth ten, fourth and ten. I don't hate it,
Speaker 8: but you have got to tell Taler shuck while he's
Speaker 8: back there. But you cannot leave enough time on the
Speaker 8: clock for them to get into field goal range, especially
Speaker 8: with how they talked about how this kigger for Stanford
Speaker 8: has a big leg and obviously as we saw, and
Speaker 8: much less leaving time on the clock. How brain dead
Speaker 8: do you have to be to commit two penalties and
Speaker 8: not take any time off the clock and give them
Speaker 8: seventeen extra seconds. Granted, the out of bounce call where
Speaker 8: he was twisting his leg was a little I mean,
Speaker 8: I may or may not have had a little bit
Speaker 8: of money on Louisvill's team total, so I might be
Speaker 8: influenced a little bit, But that's about the point. That
Speaker 8: was a little bit egregious to me. I think you
Speaker 8: can let that one go. But even committing the five
Speaker 8: yards enalty which gives them five extra yards, it's just
Speaker 8: it's insane, Nick, Like this is year two. They have
Speaker 8: to be coached not to do these things.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Cody. Good to hear from you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I'll say this when it comes to and
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to be funny. Here, I'm being serious.
Speaker 5: When it comes to the end of the game when
Speaker 5: it was tied up. I think if you were to say, okay,
Speaker 5: what can be done here for Stanford to win this
Speaker 5: game in overtime with a with a kick? I mean,
Speaker 5: Louisville did things that like that's exactly how that scenario happens.
Speaker 5: Now again, I don't think that they were trying to
Speaker 5: lose trust me. I hope people can understand that, Like
Speaker 5: I would never think that or or say that. Even
Speaker 5: if I thought that, I would never say it because
Speaker 5: that would be really stupid of me to do without
Speaker 5: knowing that for certain. But I'm just saying, like you
Speaker 5: could have okay, yeah, let's let's let's let's just drop
Speaker 5: the ball and we'll pick it up and score. I mean,
Speaker 5: like if you were to trying to script a scenario
Speaker 5: to where they win it that way, Like if you're
Speaker 5: making a movie about this, this redemption story with the
Speaker 5: kicker that they talked about, like that that that's it, right,
Speaker 5: Chuck not taking up a whole lot of time when
Speaker 5: he's back in the pocket, dropped passes when you you know,
Speaker 5: stop the clock, not forcing them to call any timeouts
Speaker 5: they take over because you turned it over on fourth
Speaker 5: down where they took over, and then you know, you
Speaker 5: commit two penalties that moved them up and then they
Speaker 5: get it. I mean, like it's it's insane, but yes,
Speaker 5: that's I mean like it.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like.
Speaker 5: I hate to be spending my spinning my wheels here
Speaker 5: and and just not being able to speak, but I
Speaker 5: don't know what to say like that, the way that
Speaker 5: played out at the end, Like it's quite literally what
Speaker 5: you would need to do for them to win the
Speaker 5: game that way to give it to him and that
Speaker 5: with that ending, I don't and there's no way that
Speaker 5: was the plan. But man, that's to just how poorly
Speaker 5: disciplined this team is and they're just out of sorts.
Speaker 5: And they've been like that really all year outside of Clemson.
Speaker 5: I'm not taking anything away from the Clemson game. That
Speaker 5: was great, and I felt all year that this team
Speaker 5: actually has the pieces to be good, but they're just not.
Speaker 5: And what makes it I think, I guess more frustrating
Speaker 5: for me as I'm talking through it here. I didn't
Speaker 5: get my therapy session on Saturday night because I was
Speaker 5: I didn't do the postgame show, to be honest, with you.
Speaker 5: No offense to you guys, I would have you know.
Speaker 5: I love doing the postgame show with everybody, but like
Speaker 5: I'm glad I wasn't because that was that was brutal.
Speaker 5: But I think why it's just such a sour situation
Speaker 5: to even if they go eight and four, I'll be happy,
Speaker 5: Like I'll still say, hell, that was a good year
Speaker 5: because again you would have eliminated the Street to Kentucky,
Speaker 5: you beat Clemson for the first time, like eight and four.
Speaker 5: I'm still not going to act like that's a huge
Speaker 5: disappointment to where somebody, you know, where it's terrible. But clearly,
Speaker 5: I think I've seen enough to where I know this
Speaker 5: team not only should not be doing the insanely stupid
Speaker 5: stuff that we saw against Stanford and that we've seen
Speaker 5: in other games.
Speaker 2: I think this team could be really good. I really do.
Speaker 5: And you know that doesn't matter if they don't win games,
Speaker 5: and when you lose to teams like Stanford, like good luck.
Speaker 5: I mean, to be honest with you, Louisville was in
Speaker 5: the playoff rankings because they had one good win and
Speaker 5: then they had three losses to good teams that they
Speaker 5: played competitively in games they could have won, but now
Speaker 5: like the benefit of the doubt of that is all
Speaker 5: gone when you lose to Stanford. I mean not saying that,
Speaker 5: like you know, I mean, clearly they're not going to
Speaker 5: be ranked at any point the rest of the way,
Speaker 5: and I get it. But what I'm saying is, like,
Speaker 5: you know, I still think like that they could lose
Speaker 5: to pit and do the same stupid stuff we've seen
Speaker 5: them do, and then if they go out and play
Speaker 5: well against Kentucky, I mean, that would be great, but
Speaker 5: like two things. One, I can't expect that, but like
Speaker 5: if they did it, it's not like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: where'd that come from? Because again, I think this team
Speaker 5: has the personnel to where they just shouldn't be doing
Speaker 5: this stuff. And look, when you're this undisciplined and it
Speaker 5: played out the way it did against Stanford, likes, that's
Speaker 5: that's responsibility to make sure that doesn't happen. That's why
Speaker 5: I tried to really hit home that he keeps saying, well,
Speaker 5: that can't happen, that can't happen, that can happen. Well, man,
Speaker 5: it's continuing to happen. And like it's not all his fault.
Speaker 5: There's collective blame to share here, but like he's responsible
Speaker 5: for the program, like you know, he's got to get
Speaker 5: that fixed, and how he does it, it's on him.
Speaker 5: Or back to the thone lines five two, five seventy
Speaker 5: nine hundred is the number.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Mike. Mike here on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2: How are you.
Speaker 7: Hey? I won't say much. The only thing I'm saying one, uh,
Speaker 7: I don't mind going for the touchdown. Brooks was in
Speaker 7: the open, in the very corner or quarterback and throw
Speaker 7: the ball. That doesn't bother me. But I think two things.
Speaker 7: I think our defensive culture then this year needs to go.
Speaker 7: And the kid calls the fifty year piloty if he
Speaker 7: plays and either one of these next games or the
Speaker 7: rest of the year, then something's wrong. I mean that
Speaker 7: the kid pushed the guy for no reason and calls
Speaker 7: to us, really that was it?
Speaker 2: Fifteen Mike.
Speaker 5: It's one of those things where you would you would
Speaker 5: you would show that to other teams to show like
Speaker 5: a very undisciplined player, and like how you have to
Speaker 5: be held accountable for those kind of mistakes because though
Speaker 5: I mean it's not one mistake, I lost the game.
Speaker 7: But he plays the next two games, I lose respect
Speaker 7: for all the coaches and full lame playing. So those
Speaker 7: are my comments. Uh, let's see if we can win
Speaker 7: these last two.
Speaker 2: Thanks, thank you, Mike. I appreciate it. Look, I'm I'm
Speaker 2: hopeful that they will.
Speaker 5: But that's what's just going to make it so awkward
Speaker 5: for me is like I I try not to ever
Speaker 5: just fib and go out here and just you know,
Speaker 5: yap and say things I don't believe, because that wouldn't
Speaker 5: be any fun. And I think you guys be able
Speaker 5: to pick up on it, like I have no clue
Speaker 5: what we're gonna get in these next two weeks.
Speaker 2: Have you seen this team ten games in? You have
Speaker 2: no clue.
Speaker 5: I mean to be honest with you, If if we're
Speaker 5: just going to base it off of consistency, there's a
Speaker 5: better chance that we see them make mistakes where you think, like,
Speaker 5: how does this keep happening? Now, they've been able to
Speaker 5: do it at times and beat you know, not great teams,
Speaker 5: and I don't know how good Pit is. They're certainly
Speaker 5: better than Stanford. In fact, at this point, I think
Speaker 5: you'd probably say that they would be your best win
Speaker 5: outside of Clemson, and I guess Georgia Tech. So you know,
Speaker 5: I'll figure it out as we get closer to the game.
Speaker 5: But like right now, thinking about these two matchups, which
Speaker 5: I hope they win and I know that they have
Speaker 5: the ability to do it, but like trying to get
Speaker 5: into what we expect to see. I mean, the safe
Speaker 5: bet would be that they'll still be undisciplined and they'll
Speaker 5: still make some crucial mistakes. Now you'd hope that it
Speaker 5: wouldn't be costly enough and you know there won't be
Speaker 5: as much of them to where you can still hold
Speaker 5: on and win. But like after Saturday, I don't know, Man,
Speaker 5: that was that was insane. All right, Let's go back
Speaker 5: to the phone lines here. Let's get a couple of
Speaker 5: callers in before we hit our next break. Five O
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Speaker 5: the phone lines and we will bring in Ben Ben.
Speaker 5: How are we doing today?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 9: Oh, it's up man, And yeah, I agree with every saying, dude,
Speaker 9: this is bad. It's embarrassing, and it's just disappointing this roster.
Speaker 5: It's not anger or sadness as much. I mean, I'm
Speaker 5: sure there's feelings of that, but disappointing is the best
Speaker 5: way to describe it.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 9: It is, and you know it, it's kind of like
Speaker 9: what you're saying, Like I can't remember one thing my
Speaker 9: time had a receiver as good as Brooks.
Speaker 6: I mean, look less, you know, are running back is awesome,
Speaker 6: All of them are good.
Speaker 9: Our all line is finally blocking like you've probably got
Speaker 9: a good quarterback. And and even the defense like yeah
Speaker 9: they suck.
Speaker 6: Well, there's still some big names on that defense and
Speaker 6: probably our highest paid.
Speaker 2: Players on the defense.
Speaker 5: And that's the one thing, Ben that I just don't
Speaker 5: really know how to like, I mean, I probably should
Speaker 5: just say what I think and not worry about, you know,
Speaker 5: looking like a fool, But like I want to say
Speaker 5: the defense is good, but really I can't, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, Like they you know, you can have ability,
Speaker 5: but if you continue to just you know, and you're
Speaker 5: not well led by your by your coordinator, that's pretty obvious.
Speaker 5: But there's guys that we've watched make plays here before
Speaker 5: that just haven't been able to get comfortable this year.
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's because how they're being utilized
Speaker 5: or what it is, but yes, like when the defense
Speaker 5: has their issues, I still don't think like, well, hey, man,
Speaker 5: we really we really went out and brought in some
Speaker 5: duds in the portal, but we brought back some insanely
Speaker 5: talented players Ashon Jalatti and Quincy Riley. You brought in
Speaker 5: dudes that I think Tamarry McDonald's really good, Stan Kwan Clark, Like,
Speaker 5: I don't think the defense is a weakness when it
Speaker 5: comes to talent, and yet you know they're just a mess.
Speaker 6: I agree, man. And then like the DC issue, Man,
Speaker 6: I'm starting to worry, Like that's just a test to
Speaker 6: Jeff Brown period, Like he's been a coach for a
Speaker 6: long time, Nick, and all of his dcs have sucked.
Speaker 9: Sorry, he's never even had an average defense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And what's crazy, Ben, is like the reason the
Speaker 5: only reason Roun English came with Jeff wasn't because of
Speaker 5: his resumes, because well, hey, this guy actually did a
Speaker 5: decent job for you know, compared to the previous defenses
Speaker 5: that he's had it Purdue, and he was like, well, hey,
Speaker 5: this is better than it has been, so I'm gonna
Speaker 5: keep rolling with it. And now, you know, you kept
Speaker 5: him around after last year falling apart where he himself
Speaker 5: took the blame meeting ron English, and now this year,
Speaker 5: I mean, clearly he's he's a big factor. I'm not
Speaker 5: saying it's all his fault, but certainly like he would
Speaker 5: be a real surprise if Jeff doesn't make a change there.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, Nick, And just as far as like
Speaker 9: the discipline and all that goes, I just want to
Speaker 9: get on this and I hang up. We we are
Speaker 9: to the point now, cousin, were just pay for players,
Speaker 9: like it's just straight up pros, Like, yeah, these aren't
Speaker 9: These aren't freshmen. We're grooming and disciplining, you know, until
Speaker 9: they're old enough to not make the mistakes like he
Speaker 9: just growing men. They're gonna go back to and get
Speaker 9: a check like and we're we're like the people with
Speaker 9: last and agency and recruiting. So I'm guessing this is
Speaker 9: gonna be our method and moving forward, which is fine,
Speaker 9: you know, but we're also gonna take that good with
Speaker 9: the bad, I guess, and the bad is we're just
Speaker 9: gonna be on disciplined to say, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, thank you, Thanks Ben. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of what he said there as far
Speaker 5: as like the strategy with recruiting and uh, you know
Speaker 5: with with N I L and how now like we're
Speaker 5: paying players and whatnot. I don't have a lot of
Speaker 5: time now, and I want to sure you get to
Speaker 5: a break, but I do want to kind of reset
Speaker 5: on that because and I'll just save it. But let's
Speaker 5: get a break out of the way. We'll go back
Speaker 5: to the phone lines on the other side. Jerry, you're
Speaker 5: up next if you want to hold through the break.
Speaker 5: If not, we'll go to the next caller. But we'll
Speaker 5: take a quick time out come back into more of
Speaker 5: your calls right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 5: That's right, we are wrapping up hour number one here
Speaker 5: on a Monday afternoon Coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's
Speaker 5: here on Sports Talk seven ninety. So very little time
Speaker 5: left here. Actually, well, yeah, we got some flexibility, so
Speaker 5: I don't want to act like we got to just
Speaker 5: get out of here, like right now. But we will
Speaker 5: go back to the phone lines. Obviously been a very
Speaker 5: caller driven first hour, which that usually happens when you
Speaker 5: have situations, as you know, similar to what played out
Speaker 5: on Saturday on the West Coast. So let's go to Jerry,
Speaker 5: who now joins Is Jerry? What's happening?
Speaker 2: Brother?
Speaker 3: About about Jeff bron I was one hundred percent for
Speaker 3: the hire. Okay, his resume merited it. Unlike our past
Speaker 3: basketball coach. He wants to be here. That's important to
Speaker 3: U of L football fans that he's not meeting somebody
Speaker 3: at an airport in the middle of the night. I'm
Speaker 3: still in Jeff Brown's corner, okay. But but here's the thing.
Speaker 3: I think everybody's missing some things when it comes to
Speaker 3: his staff. I just don't think we need to look
Speaker 3: at Ron English, and I do think Ron English needs
Speaker 3: to be replaced. But I think Jeff needs to as
Speaker 3: I said for four to six weeks ago on this show,
Speaker 3: he needs to look at in the mirror and decide,
Speaker 3: you know, what kind of staff change you're gonna make.
Speaker 3: I think Brian needs to go. I think he needs
Speaker 3: not because he's terrible. I think he needs to go
Speaker 3: for Jeff to hear a new voice. They're brothers, They're
Speaker 3: they're gonna think alike. They're gonna they're not. They're not
Speaker 3: gonna challenge him the way somebody come from the outside
Speaker 3: would another thing. I would bet you that we're the
Speaker 3: only Division I program where the director of football operations
Speaker 3: stands beside our head coach with a headset on and
Speaker 3: has input at the end of the game on whether
Speaker 3: to punt the ball or go for it on fourth down. Okay,
Speaker 3: and Greg has no I'm not killing the guy, but
Speaker 3: he's a director of football operations. He doesn't belong on
Speaker 3: the sidelines in Jeff's ear, I'm sorry he doesn't have
Speaker 3: the resume. Look it up. It's factual. Okay. Going forward,
Speaker 3: I just don't see this team finishing two and oh.
Speaker 3: I think we're gonna go one and one at best.
Speaker 3: I think we're gonna lose in Lexington. Again. I hope
Speaker 3: I'm wrong. Okay, but again, four to six weeks ago,
Speaker 3: I talked about the John L. Smith level of incompetence
Speaker 3: and lack of discipline, and that's where we're at. And
Speaker 3: again I think it's a total shakeup. You look at
Speaker 3: his staff and all the familiar faces on that staff.
Speaker 3: He needs to get people and to think, get him
Speaker 3: to think outside the box on things. The one got
Speaker 3: one more comment. The one guy said he didn't have
Speaker 3: a problem with him going deep. I do, because we
Speaker 3: didn't even need a first down. All we needed was
Speaker 3: seven to eight yards and we're kicking a field goal
Speaker 3: for the win and we go for the end zone.
Speaker 3: I mean, what are we doing? You know, I would
Speaker 3: never understand when we went to when we broke cuddle,
Speaker 3: I told my wife, I said, they got to work
Speaker 3: the sideline and get out of bounds. Ten yards is
Speaker 3: all we needed. We didn't even need ten really, we
Speaker 3: had time out left. It's just frustrating. But I think
Speaker 3: I think he needs to look at his staff from
Speaker 3: A to Z. He can get by with these things
Speaker 3: in my book, in my mind if we're nine to one,
Speaker 3: but we're six and four, So I question everything, And
Speaker 3: I questioned Greg having his ear on the sideline. It's
Speaker 3: insanity that he has that much say over there, and
Speaker 3: he's a director of football operations, for God's sakes.
Speaker 5: Jerry, I appreciate the call man. I will say this,
Speaker 5: and we've got to get to a break, so we'll
Speaker 5: do that right now. But where I wanted to start
Speaker 5: the four o'clock hour, the last two calls really kind
Speaker 5: of are leading me in that direction. So we'll get
Speaker 5: to all that next. Well, we have to get to
Speaker 5: a break a little late here. Apologize, but stick with us.
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