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Speaker 2: John Caldera, please give me a call. What a desperate
Speaker 2: sounding man. Call me call sometime. Three h three seven
Speaker 2: one three eight two five five seven to one three talk.
Speaker 2: Just trying to put up my latest column onto Facebook.
Speaker 3: And it wouldn't. It wouldn't do it.
Speaker 2: Why because it says the Government of Canada does not
Speaker 2: allow news stories on Facebook.
Speaker 3: That's what it said.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm assuming, I'm assuming something's gone a little haywire
Speaker 2: with Facebook.
Speaker 4: Now wait a minute, John, let's do some math adding
Speaker 4: up from yesterday. You've took a flight back from Montreal.
Speaker 4: Are you still logged into like a Canadian IP or something.
Speaker 2: That's what I thought, But I don't think so, how
Speaker 2: could I be? I don't know, Todd, Yeah, that's what
Speaker 2: I was thinking. I guess I could, uh eh eh, yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I don't understand nothing anymore. Three
Speaker 2: h three seven one three eight two five five. I'll
Speaker 2: figure it out later. I do miss a lot of
Speaker 2: the analog days, you know, those those gorgeous days when
Speaker 2: when the Type A wouldn't work and you knew why.
Speaker 2: All right, So I still haven't had anyone call me
Speaker 2: on this one. I'm gonna throw it out one more
Speaker 2: time and then we can get rid of it. According
Speaker 2: to the bylaws for the Colorado Republican Party, as I
Speaker 2: understand them, if enough people in the Central Committee call
Speaker 2: for a special meeting of the Central Committee, then.
Speaker 3: Then you just have it. And they've called for one.
Speaker 2: It's going to be this Saturday in Brighton at a
Speaker 2: church with a couple of agenda items. One is to
Speaker 2: remove the party chairman, Dave Williams. And should he be removed?
Speaker 2: And who will take his place? So a couple questions
Speaker 2: I need some help. One, how would you vote on this? Two?
Speaker 2: If Dave Williams is voted out, but as he says,
Speaker 2: this is a fraudulent meeting, he doesn't recognize the meeting,
Speaker 2: then what are you supposed to do? Is there a lawsuit?
Speaker 2: Who who figures it all out?
Speaker 3: Three or three seven? One three eight two five five
Speaker 3: seven to one three? Tuck? And what happens after that?
Speaker 3: What happens after that?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I honestly don't know. Now the Republican
Speaker 2: primaries are over. The Colaudo Secretary of State has said
Speaker 2: who the winners and losers are of those primaries, and
Speaker 2: they will be the winners will go on to the general.
Speaker 2: There you have that, So the Party is not needed
Speaker 2: for that anymore. That job has been done. The question
Speaker 2: is will the party be able to help any Republicans?
Speaker 2: And so you've got other conservative groups trying to raise
Speaker 2: money for Republican candidates. Lincoln Club of Denver, for instance,
Speaker 2: great organization, and I know that, but they've got a
Speaker 2: small donor committee and they fundraise and they choose their
Speaker 2: own candidates and give money to those. Both the Republican
Speaker 2: House here in Colorado and the Republican Senate in Colorado
Speaker 2: have what they call their victory funds. People pour a
Speaker 2: lot of money into those. Almost no money is going
Speaker 2: into the party. Let's get to some of these phone calls.
Speaker 2: Three oh three seven, one, three eight, two five five
Speaker 2: Out to Denver we go, Michael, glad to have you.
Speaker 2: You're with John Caldera.
Speaker 5: John, good afternoon. I wanted to call in so that
Speaker 5: you didn't feel quite so lonely.
Speaker 3: Thank you. It is a sad, terrible thing.
Speaker 5: You do have a great radio show on Saturday mornings,
Speaker 5: and I urge people to listen to it. If they don't, Uh,
Speaker 5: And I don't care if you're not, I don't care
Speaker 5: if you're all that doesn't make any difference to me.
Speaker 5: So what I am calling you about?
Speaker 3: You have no empathy? You have no empathy?
Speaker 5: Well I'm I'm a Republican. So I I want to
Speaker 5: spend thirty seconds if I can, on Kamala Harris. Hopefully,
Speaker 5: and I'm fairly confident that he will. The Trump campaign
Speaker 5: will start bringing out some of the things that people
Speaker 5: absolutely do not know or understand about Kamala Harris. This
Speaker 5: is a woman of the far far, far left, and
Speaker 5: she's been able to disguise that in the vice presidency
Speaker 5: because she's had to do nothing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a functory role for the most part.
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: So once people understand that she is from San Francisco,
Speaker 5: she was the mistress of Willie Brown, who was almost
Speaker 5: a communist, certainly close to one, and that a lot
Speaker 5: of her friends and relatives and acquaintances are all extreme leftists.
Speaker 5: I just don't believe that people will vote for now
Speaker 5: anybody but Trump. That is a problem, that is a
Speaker 5: real problem in this country, and I'm not quite sure
Speaker 5: how we can get around it. I agree. I think
Speaker 5: it was you that said Trump could have won this election.
Speaker 5: Thursday night, when he gave his acceptance speech at the
Speaker 5: Republican Convention, I was there. I was a delegate from
Speaker 5: Colorado for Trump. I believe me, for the four days
Speaker 5: that we were there, watching this convention in person was
Speaker 5: the most unbelievable experience of my life. I can tell
Speaker 5: you that. But Trump had it completely sewn up. Everybody
Speaker 5: that got on that podium to speak regular everyday people
Speaker 5: who talked about him personally, what kind of a generous
Speaker 5: human being he is, and the gold Star families that
Speaker 5: he spent hours with, knew their children, knew their names,
Speaker 5: knew what they their goals were, all of that parents
Speaker 5: of hostages being held in Gaza by Hamas. It was
Speaker 5: wonderful stuffs. And the first part of his speech, when
Speaker 5: he talked about what it felt like being almost assassinated,
Speaker 5: was heartbreaking, absolutely heartbreaking. And then we got into the
Speaker 5: old Trump. And for me, I like the old Trump,
Speaker 5: but a lot of people don't, and he's going to
Speaker 5: have to figure out a way to get those people
Speaker 5: to come to his side, because we cannot have Kamala Harris,
Speaker 5: we cannot.
Speaker 3: Have let me. Let me put this out.
Speaker 2: And I said it last yesterday on the air, and
Speaker 2: people seem to be really hacked off by it. And
Speaker 2: it's pretty simple. Trump didn't deliver on that speech, and
Speaker 2: he made a mistake. He gave into his usual tendencies
Speaker 2: to name call and to meander like Castro giving a
Speaker 2: speech instead of being disciplined and understanding, he's not talking
Speaker 2: to you, Michael, because you're going to vote for him.
Speaker 3: You've already on him. He needs to.
Speaker 2: Talk to the people who might vote for him, or
Speaker 2: they are in the possibility the then diagram that perhaps
Speaker 2: perhaps they could vote for him. And he didn't do that,
Speaker 2: And if he did, I think this thing would have
Speaker 2: been sewn.
Speaker 7: Up had he spoke the way he had been talking
Speaker 7: before the assassination attempt and even after it, because when
Speaker 7: he came into that auditorium on Monday, the.
Speaker 5: First night of the convention, he looked tired and worn out,
Speaker 5: and he certainly looked like a man that had, you know,
Speaker 5: come to face the face kind of with the with
Speaker 5: the end of his life. That should change someone, and
Speaker 5: it did, and a lot of stuff that he was
Speaker 5: talking about, at least in the news, he seemed to
Speaker 5: be soft, softer. But I'll tell you, that's a tough
Speaker 5: crowd there. That is a tough crowd in Milwaukee. And
Speaker 5: we wanted to hear some red meat and we got it.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, how sad that you got what you wanted because
Speaker 2: he has your vote, he has your vote, he needs
Speaker 2: somebody else's vote, and they should have they should have.
Speaker 3: He should have gone for that. I don't know.
Speaker 5: I disagree with you, I don't disagree. Here's the only
Speaker 5: thing I can say. This guy has gone through a lot,
Speaker 5: and many people, including myself, have said, you know, if
Speaker 5: you just get rid of those darn tweets or that
Speaker 5: to do this, do that, this. He's still on his
Speaker 5: seat through all of this. He is up against a
Speaker 5: tough opponent in this woman, I can promise you. And
Speaker 5: what the Democrats have done to Joe Biden is an
Speaker 5: absolute disgrace and it's disgusting. And if I hear a
Speaker 5: Democrats say to me, we're democracy, I'm afraid I'm gonna
Speaker 5: have to use some pretty bad words. It said a
Speaker 5: complete and absolute joke. This was a coup. They kicked
Speaker 5: the guy out. You heard that in his speech last night,
Speaker 5: when he wouldn't tell any of us what happened.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we haven't even talked about that speech. What
Speaker 2: a nothing burger of a speech. You didn't explain in
Speaker 2: the slightest why you're getting out of this race.
Speaker 5: All he did was talk about all of his accomplishments
Speaker 5: and why he could have won. Okay, well, then I'll
Speaker 5: tell you why, because Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama and
Speaker 5: Chuck Schumer has said to him, you're out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was stabbed.
Speaker 2: It was It was a political assassination. It was killing Caesar.
Speaker 3: I gotta run. Thanks for the call, great stuff.
Speaker 2: Three oh three seven one three eight two five five
Speaker 2: seven one three talk. Did you get any from the
Speaker 2: man from the speech last night? Why he's leaving now?
Speaker 2: He couldn't say, because my health is not good, because
Speaker 2: then you hate to have to answer the question why
Speaker 2: am I sticking around to the end of the year.
Speaker 2: He he didn't say, well, well, because I'm just not
Speaker 2: as sharp as He couldn't say that, and he couldn't
Speaker 2: say the truth, which is there is no path for
Speaker 2: victory for me. There might be a path for her,
Speaker 2: So I'm stepping aside. That would have been fine, but
Speaker 2: he wouldn't even do that. Three h three seven one
Speaker 2: three eight two five five John KELDERA and for Dan
Speaker 2: keep it here six thirty.
Speaker 6: K how.
Speaker 8: And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 3: I wasn't a.
Speaker 2: Staff meeting at Independence and somebody said something, Hey Joe,
Speaker 2: and another person said.
Speaker 3: I heard you shock your woman.
Speaker 2: Down or something like that, and and all the old
Speaker 2: people laughed, and no one under thirty.
Speaker 3: They were like, somebody got shot. Phono. Yeah it was.
Speaker 3: That's why in staff meetings with.
Speaker 2: The young ins, I like to say, oh yeah, I
Speaker 2: think you guys are the bes knees, just coming up
Speaker 2: with terms that are so old they'll never understand. I'm
Speaker 2: John Calderic. Give me a call three or three seven
Speaker 2: one two five five seven one three chalk. Let's go
Speaker 2: to the phones. It's got to centennial. Hey Dan, so glad.
Speaker 3: To have you.
Speaker 9: Hey, John, I've got a couple of comments to make
Speaker 9: here on this. So when they when they meeting the
Speaker 9: shadow government, they meeting Pelosi and Obama and all the
Speaker 9: other people running the government. But they figured out that
Speaker 9: one Biden didn't have the smarts to con everybody and win.
Speaker 9: And then when they saw the money drying up and
Speaker 9: the donors pulling the money from the demer Party, that's
Speaker 9: when they got together with Biden and strong armed him
Speaker 9: out of there, and they put Kamala in there so
Speaker 9: they can start raising money again. The all plan to
Speaker 9: get rid of Biden was that they couldn't if they
Speaker 9: couldn't manipulate the election with all of their processes they do.
Speaker 9: He can't cover up, he can't cover up all the
Speaker 9: games anymore. That the secrets are gonna come out. The
Speaker 9: Obama wanted him out of the way. And what will
Speaker 9: happen is is that the very last like maybe Octold
Speaker 9: non now, maybe October Harris is gonna gonna do the
Speaker 9: twenty fifth Amendment so that it all goes down right
Speaker 9: at the end. And they already know she can't win either,
Speaker 9: so they're already planning for how to get all of
Speaker 9: this out of the way when when Trump wins, and
Speaker 9: they think they're gonna claim Biden's a lean to and
Speaker 9: you can't remember.
Speaker 2: Nothing, So hold up the second here, Dan let me
Speaker 2: see if I'm if I'm getting your nostrodrama's prediction right.
Speaker 2: You you think that before the election, Kamala Harris is
Speaker 2: going to use the twenty fifth Amendment to seize the presidency?
Speaker 3: Is that correct?
Speaker 9: That is correct?
Speaker 2: I'd be happy to put up some money against that one.
Speaker 2: I think there is absolutely no shot of that happening.
Speaker 9: I think she's gonna do it and is cheated in
Speaker 9: there right now so they can keep raving money.
Speaker 3: And why would she do this? What? What? What is
Speaker 3: her what is her.
Speaker 9: Hope keep a part of that private group where Obama
Speaker 9: and Nancy and Jeff.
Speaker 2: Okay, assuming she is, assuming she is, what does she
Speaker 2: gain by that?
Speaker 3: Spell it out for me? What lots of money for? What?
Speaker 5: Help me?
Speaker 3: Talk to me like I'm eight years old.
Speaker 2: Explain it to me that the motivation for her to
Speaker 2: use a twenty fifth amendment sees the presidency.
Speaker 3: On the eve of the election is what exactly?
Speaker 9: Talk down to me, okay, because they mean the democratic
Speaker 9: power control of the already. No, she's not gonna win.
Speaker 9: She can't win. It's impossible. She can't even get two votes. Well,
Speaker 9: I'm dad ready, but hardly any votes in the initial primary.
Speaker 9: They just want to make all the DNC money now,
Speaker 9: and we know her, you just play the roles be
Speaker 9: the president at the very last, we're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 9: take Biden now and be crazy. You won't win, and
Speaker 9: then you're gonna write books and do speeches and travel
Speaker 9: around and we're gonna make your life nice.
Speaker 2: I still don't understand this in the slightest. Let me
Speaker 2: let me see if I if I'm understanding what you're
Speaker 2: telling me that somehow they're gonna raise more money with
Speaker 2: with Harris then with Biden.
Speaker 3: Okay, I can go for that far.
Speaker 2: But then why do why make her president for for
Speaker 2: two months?
Speaker 3: Three months? Why?
Speaker 2: What benefit is that? So the DNC gets their money.
Speaker 2: Are you suggesting that they're not gonna spend any of
Speaker 2: it if she becomes president for three months.
Speaker 9: They'll spend it, but they will help me out.
Speaker 10: What is the motivation for for this move, either from
Speaker 10: either from Kamala's point of view or from the rich
Speaker 10: guys that you think are pulling pulling the strings.
Speaker 3: What is the motivation? And don't just say money? Be specific?
Speaker 2: Are they gonna get okay?
Speaker 9: Ye, so the motivation is yeah, after Trump wins after
Speaker 9: Trump wins. If you're gonna talk to me like that,
Speaker 9: after Trump wins and he starts filing, they're gonna claim
Speaker 9: that Biden is crazy and he had to be called
Speaker 9: out of there in the twenty fifth Amendment and he
Speaker 9: doesn't have any knowledge of anything. That is a big dodge.
Speaker 3: I'm still not following my opinion.
Speaker 2: Okay, So she's gonna she's gonna be able to get
Speaker 2: three fourths.
Speaker 3: She's gonna get three.
Speaker 2: Fourths of the cabinet to agree that they need to
Speaker 2: remove him from power, and by the way, that then
Speaker 2: needs to be okayed by a congressional vote later. And
Speaker 2: this is so it changes what it changes nothing. It
Speaker 2: doesn't change how how much money they get, doesn't change
Speaker 2: how much money they spend.
Speaker 3: This one just doesn't work. Sorry.
Speaker 2: Three oh three seven one three eight two five five
Speaker 2: seven one three talk.
Speaker 3: I'm John Kelderic keep it right here, six thirty K how.
Speaker 8: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2: John Caldera And for Dan, the number has always three
Speaker 2: h three seven one three eight two five five. I'll
Speaker 2: take it just a minute. On the terrible speech our
Speaker 2: president gave us, yep, we we wanted to know why
Speaker 2: he's not running for re election. Why it was that
Speaker 2: five days ago, there was no chance that I'm going
Speaker 2: to leave this race. He was sure fire, We're in
Speaker 2: it to the end, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 2: he's ready to pass it to a new generation. What
Speaker 2: changed over those few days? Did did did he have
Speaker 2: a health issue that sprung up? Did did he finally
Speaker 2: recognize he he can't do the job? Did he realized
Speaker 2: he was being pushed out of the race by all
Speaker 2: of his friends in the Democratic Party and the media
Speaker 2: because they knew he couldn't win against Donald Trump. If so,
Speaker 2: why not say it in public? But he explained nothing,
Speaker 2: absolutely nothing. He said this, and I said, the defense
Speaker 2: of democracy, which is at stake, I think is more
Speaker 2: important than any title.
Speaker 3: What in the world does that mean? Does that mean you,
Speaker 3: if you run.
Speaker 2: For president, you're no longer defending democracy. He had an
Speaker 2: opportunity to reassure us that for the next six months
Speaker 2: he is up to the job of being president. He
Speaker 2: had the opportunity to tell the world, don't take advantage
Speaker 2: of us while I'm a lame duck, because the old man.
Speaker 3: Still has some teeth. But he didn't do that.
Speaker 2: He talked about all of his accomplishments, which of course
Speaker 2: any politician does anytime.
Speaker 3: They open up the refrigerator and a light turns on.
Speaker 2: He he could have just said, this was a coup
Speaker 2: by my power hungry Democratic friends. He could have said,
Speaker 2: I've done the calculus. I doubt I can win, but
Speaker 2: I know my young, smart, energetic VP can.
Speaker 3: Ever be.
Speaker 2: Could could he just say, you know, all the people
Speaker 2: around me have gotten tired of hiding the truth about
Speaker 2: my incredible decline from the voters, and so I can't
Speaker 2: ask them to do it anymore.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: He can't say those things, because if he did, the
Speaker 2: follow up question is, well, then why don't you just
Speaker 2: step down?
Speaker 3: Our last caller seemed to believe.
Speaker 2: That that Kamala is going to take his place using
Speaker 2: the twenty fifth Amendment, because that's really important. It's possible
Speaker 2: that a lot of the power brokers decided no, give
Speaker 2: this opportunity to Kamala because we know she could lose.
Speaker 3: And that clears the field for four years from now.
Speaker 2: But I don't think they think that way.
Speaker 3: There you have it.
Speaker 2: I only sneak down to Colorado Springs and say hello
Speaker 2: to Matt. Matt welcome. You're with John Caldera. Glad to
Speaker 2: have you, Matt, Hey.
Speaker 6: John, thanks for taking my call. My pasture quick question,
Speaker 6: and my question is basically to ask you, could this ever,
Speaker 6: in any scenario happen. And my scenario is could.
Speaker 11: Kamala goin forces with JFK Junior to bring in five
Speaker 11: to six percent of the vote in the swing states
Speaker 11: that he's listed on the ballot.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, she could too much expense.
Speaker 2: She could ask him to be a running mate. She
Speaker 2: could make him a deal that if he endorsed her
Speaker 2: and dropped out of the race, that he would be
Speaker 2: in her cabinet.
Speaker 3: I believe that's why Donald.
Speaker 2: Trump was reaching out by that phone call that was
Speaker 2: recorded by rfk's staff and then leaked. I think he
Speaker 2: was trying to find a way to get RFK to
Speaker 2: endorse him and and say something to the effective, join
Speaker 2: my team and there's a spot for you.
Speaker 3: So she could.
Speaker 2: There's she'd have to go through the calculations on that.
Speaker 2: Would RFK bring her one of those needed swing states
Speaker 2: or some of those swing states. My sense is that
Speaker 2: Governor Shapiro would probably be a better choice if you
Speaker 2: wanted Pennsylvania, which she desperately wants.
Speaker 3: Sure, And I just didn't.
Speaker 6: Know if jeff to not being on all ballots would
Speaker 6: would make a difference.
Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't matter at all if he's on
Speaker 2: the right ballots, if he's on if he's on the
Speaker 2: ballot on swing states, and she believes that he's going
Speaker 2: to pull votes from her, Yeah, that's a good point,
Speaker 2: to be honest. I am not certain who he pulls
Speaker 2: votes from. I really don't know. And and also he's crazy.
Speaker 3: The guy. The guy's just nut back crazy. You know.
Speaker 2: While Kamala is just evil, she is a hardcore progressive
Speaker 2: activist who will use the tools of government to shape
Speaker 2: the world she wants in the command and control style.
Speaker 3: RFK is just weird. And I don't I.
Speaker 2: Don't see any I don't see any consistent policy formula
Speaker 2: from him.
Speaker 3: There's nothing that right.
Speaker 2: It's it's like I've this way on that and I'm
Speaker 2: that way on this, and it's just well because and
Speaker 2: it's like so many friends, probably you and I have
Speaker 2: that they emote their ideas and they they want this
Speaker 2: and that, but they haven't thought why they haven't thought
Speaker 2: if these things actually are connected in any sort of cohesive,
Speaker 2: universal political philosophy. My political philosophy grows from a simple
Speaker 2: belief that individuals to themselves are sovereign.
Speaker 3: They are a nation unto themselves, and from all from
Speaker 3: that everything else grows.
Speaker 6: But other people, I wonder Americans have lost the ability
Speaker 6: to think that way in general.
Speaker 3: I think I think so.
Speaker 2: I think those people who command the heights of culture, media, entertainment, education,
Speaker 2: I have for the last seventy years, I've decided to
Speaker 2: teach away from individuals to our collective and to say
Speaker 2: that there are smart people who can engineer your life
Speaker 2: better than you can.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, sad start well.
Speaker 6: Thanks for singing my twelf.
Speaker 2: Thank you for calling the number three h three seven
Speaker 2: one three eight two five five. I always sneak up
Speaker 2: to Eerie and sayalo to Mike. Mike, you're with John Caldera.
Speaker 6: Thank good afternoon, John.
Speaker 12: How are you.
Speaker 3: I'm fine?
Speaker 12: Thank you, good good.
Speaker 2: Hey.
Speaker 12: I've enjoyed listening to you last couple of days. You're
Speaker 12: doing something different than just reading the Trump talking point,
Speaker 12: so I appreciate that a little bit of both sides.
Speaker 12: So hey, I wanted to just maybe help you out
Speaker 12: a little bit on the collar. Before the break, Who
Speaker 12: was explaining a theory to you, and you were having
Speaker 12: a hard time track.
Speaker 3: I couldn't get it. Yeah, if you can help me out.
Speaker 2: His theory is that Kamala is going to use the
Speaker 2: twenty fifth Amendment to get rid of Biden should become president,
Speaker 2: that the powers behind the throne want her to do that.
Speaker 2: And I just don't see what the advantage is to
Speaker 2: either the powers behind or.
Speaker 3: Or to her.
Speaker 12: That's because you use logic, and he clearly is a
Speaker 12: Trump supporter based on what he said, and many Trump
Speaker 12: supporters don't have the ability to use logic. They just
Speaker 12: take some little conspiracy theory and run with it. And man,
Speaker 12: that sounds really sexy. But the fact of the matter
Speaker 12: is he had he had no idea why they why
Speaker 12: she would do that, And it's just it's frust That's
Speaker 12: why I get so first, it's.
Speaker 2: Just followers who love conspiracy theories and get very emotional.
Speaker 2: It happens on all sides, but I'm still trying to
Speaker 2: figure out.
Speaker 3: You know, one, I don't think she'd be able to
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 2: I do not believe that three fourths of the cabinet
Speaker 2: would would vote vote to get him out. And of course,
Speaker 2: if he doesn't want to go out. He brings it
Speaker 2: to Congress, which is what happens next, and he would
Speaker 2: have to get trying to remember what percentage of Congress.
Speaker 2: I think it's three fourths to agree with Kamala so
Speaker 2: that she could enjoy, you know, three months of being
Speaker 2: president and destroy.
Speaker 3: Any any chance she has to be elected to anything after.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Actually a better strategy would be that she would stay
Speaker 12: as vice president and then actually do what Trump had
Speaker 12: asked Ens to do when it comes time to certify
Speaker 12: the vote. That would be a better conspiracy theory that
Speaker 12: the guy may have been trying to articulate. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: Perhaps now, if you're gonna go with a conspiracy theory,
Speaker 2: you don't need much. Thanks for the call three or
Speaker 2: three seven, one, three eight, two five five In for
Speaker 2: the Big Man.
Speaker 3: I'm John Calderrek. Keep it right here six point thirty
Speaker 3: k how.
Speaker 8: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2: A couple of things I wanted to get out. Oh no,
Speaker 2: that one it's too silly. This one I wanted to
Speaker 2: get out.
Speaker 3: HMM.
Speaker 2: A graduate student in Laramie, Wyoming in the nineteen nineties,
Speaker 2: Sharah Mentok spent many weekends hunting for bargains at yard sales.
Speaker 3: She liked books, old books.
Speaker 2: She spotted a book, The Lord of the Isles, a
Speaker 2: narrative poem set in fourteenth century Scotland. Brilliant green with
Speaker 2: a flowery red and blue design. This was a cloth
Speaker 2: bound book written by Ivanhoe. The author Walter Scott, published
Speaker 2: in eighteen fifteen.
Speaker 3: Wow, it was beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 8: I thought you were setting us up for an author
Speaker 8: named Angus.
Speaker 3: Thus to check this out.
Speaker 2: She has it for thirty years, It's out everywhere, and
Speaker 2: then she gets a warning. She saw a news article
Speaker 2: last year the University of Delaware's Poison Book Project aimed
Speaker 2: at identifying books still in circulation that had been produced
Speaker 2: using toxic pigments common in Victorian book binding, including lead, chromium, mercury,
Speaker 2: and especially arsenic, often used in books with dazzling green covers.
Speaker 3: And she said, wait, I got a book like that.
Speaker 2: So she took the book, wrapped it in plastic, shifted
Speaker 2: to Delaware. Apparently, it wasn't long before she heard back.
Speaker 2: The red contained mercury, the blue contained lead. The green
Speaker 2: cover captured her all those years ago, full of arsenic.
Speaker 3: Congratulations, congratulations.
Speaker 2: She was told from an email, you have the dupious
Speaker 2: honor of sending us the most toxic book yet. And
Speaker 2: you see people wonder why I refuse to read books.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to save my life. Yeah, this is it.
Speaker 3: This is it.
Speaker 2: So apparently about fifty percent of the books that they've
Speaker 2: tested have been analyzed positive for lead. Chromium shows up
Speaker 2: in Victorian yellows, mercury in the eras intense reds arsenic,
Speaker 2: the most toxic of all the chemicals they have found
Speaker 2: in three hundred books so far.
Speaker 3: That's quite a cocktail. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: And so for my mother who might be listening, this
Speaker 2: is why I didn't read any books in high school
Speaker 2: because they wanted to kill me.
Speaker 3: They didn't. This was this was just self preservation.
Speaker 2: This is why I watched TV NonStop in my parents'
Speaker 2: basement instead of doing homework because I'm not gonna I
Speaker 2: just knew this.
Speaker 3: I knew this. There there you have it.
Speaker 4: So you're a guy John that when somebody says, oh,
Speaker 4: the movie was good, but the.
Speaker 8: Book is way better, you're like, no, it's not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, see no it's not.
Speaker 2: You know why, because the movie is not poisoning me.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to die from the move. Now talk
Speaker 3: to me in a year when you have arsenic poisoning.
Speaker 8: Ouch.
Speaker 3: That's yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like a really convoluted episode of like Forensic.
Speaker 3: Files or something. Really, it sounds like a bad murder.
Speaker 2: She wrote, yes, yes, Why why did this woman who
Speaker 2: who loved books?
Speaker 3: How did you die?
Speaker 2: And then you find out it was her husband who
Speaker 2: gave her the Arthenic book from from the Victorian age?
Speaker 7: It?
Speaker 3: And then what's her name? Figured it all out? Jessica Fletcher?
Speaker 3: How do you know that you don't look ninety? I'm not.
Speaker 8: But my mom and my grandma.
Speaker 3: Loved that show?
Speaker 2: Was that? And I remember as a kid I would
Speaker 2: watch The Ellery Queen Mystery.
Speaker 3: I think it was on Sunday nights with my father.
Speaker 12: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what those mystery?
Speaker 2: There's a lot of death around some of these people,
Speaker 2: like whoever the chick is?
Speaker 3: And murders? She wrote, what's her name again?
Speaker 8: Jessica Fletcher? Yep, Angela.
Speaker 2: You know, if if I knew her, I wouldn't spend
Speaker 2: any time near her because everyone dies.
Speaker 8: You wouldn't want to go to Cabot Cove, then, is
Speaker 8: what you're saying?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not ah, my name is Madlock. Would you
Speaker 2: like to have a drink? No, I am not talking
Speaker 2: to you, mister Madlock. No, there's no reading.
Speaker 3: I don't. I'm going to outdate all of you. Because
Speaker 3: my mom and I used to watch Quincy. I remember,
Speaker 3: there you go.
Speaker 2: The predecessor to all these CSI shows. That's right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was Quincy, and I remember the beginning when it
Speaker 2: looks like he's examining a body, and then finally at
Speaker 2: the last scene they pull out and find out that
Speaker 2: the body's actually a gorgeous woman in a bikini and
Speaker 2: they're hanging.
Speaker 3: Out on a boat.
Speaker 13: Because Jack Klugman was such a ladies man, because hot
Speaker 13: women on sailboats were like, I want to be felt
Speaker 13: up by a coroner.
Speaker 2: This has always been one of my sex fantasies. Come
Speaker 2: on over, Quincy and do me upright. I'm John Caldera.
Speaker 2: Keep it right here, one and only six point thirty
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