Speaker 1: Sean Mooney college basketball analysts or the University of Utah
Speaker 1: men's basketball team just hung up on me.
Speaker 2: Sean, he did? That was real.
Speaker 1: I was ready to give him this really kind, nice intro,
Speaker 1: and he just slams the phone down. And who, by
Speaker 1: the way, has a dial tone when they hang up anymore?
Speaker 1: Sean on the landline? What is this nineteen eighty five?
Speaker 1: I mean, aren't we all on cell phones?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Still there, Sean Sean Mooney US.
Speaker 1: I wonder if he has a rotary phone, like one
Speaker 1: of the nobody all the younger listeners who are vaping
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: I have no idea what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: When's the last time you got hung up on like
Speaker 1: that where there's a dial tone so you even get
Speaker 1: Sean Mooney back on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he might have one of those. You mentioned it,
Speaker 2: those those rollly phones, the rotary phones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the dial You know, there was a day and
Speaker 1: age kids when your phone rang and you're actually excited
Speaker 1: about it at the house, you know, like you're at
Speaker 1: the house the phone rings, like oh maybe it's somebody
Speaker 1: really fun, really cool family member or friend. Now the
Speaker 1: phone rings and it's like, I don't know anybody who
Speaker 1: call me anymore. But Sean Mooney on a Wednesday, Sean,
Speaker 1: are you there.
Speaker 2: My friend?
Speaker 3: I'm here, Spence. I'm so sorry, man.
Speaker 4: It totally cut out right when you ask me, how
Speaker 4: are you I'm going to vote for the mammoth. I'm
Speaker 4: voting for the mammoth, even though I didn't get a vote.
Speaker 1: Fair enough. Well, if you go to the game, you
Speaker 1: get a vote. No you don't, but they're gonna pretend
Speaker 1: like you do. I gotta I gotta ask you this
Speaker 1: right out, like when you hung.
Speaker 2: Up on us. We heard a dial tone. Are you
Speaker 2: on a landline?
Speaker 4: No, I'm on my cell, but I meant my work
Speaker 4: and this coverage here is bad. I've been out in
Speaker 4: the parking lot, so okay, okay, Sean here, I'm not
Speaker 4: under rotary. I swear even though I'm from Ogden. You
Speaker 4: would think I would have a rotary.
Speaker 3: I don't have one.
Speaker 2: You're an Otown guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, brother, absolutely, I'm not. I'm not Northeast High School.
Speaker 4: I heard about your Marcus Canby experience. I listened to
Speaker 4: the Caim Palmory interview.
Speaker 1: Very good interview, by the way, thank you, sir. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was forty seven to ten at halftime. It it
Speaker 1: didn't go well, Sean. It's so when I watched Utah
Speaker 1: play against a team like Houston, I just feel bad
Speaker 1: for them because I know what that's like.
Speaker 3: You do.
Speaker 4: And did you hear what Jay Billis said on national
Speaker 4: media was about Utah playing Houston.
Speaker 2: What do you say?
Speaker 4: He said it was like clubbing baby kills. Oh wow,
Speaker 4: I died when I heard it. I'm like, come on, Billis,
Speaker 4: it did appear like that a little bit.
Speaker 3: It was ugly.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: Now, you were a very good player, but did you
Speaker 1: ever run into a situation where you're like, Yep, I've
Speaker 1: reached my level. I cannot play this game anymore if
Speaker 1: those guys are going to play like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, But it was after college and like my strength
Speaker 4: as a player was I was a good defender, good rebounder,
Speaker 4: and I was actually playing against a kid in the
Speaker 4: Mill Creek Pro am who played at Saint Mary's that
Speaker 4: I actually trained. So I'm a personal finish nur spence,
Speaker 4: you know that. And he went for Lake thirty eight
Speaker 4: on me and I'm maybe thirty four. And that was it.
Speaker 4: I went home and I told Christina that's it.
Speaker 3: I'm done.
Speaker 1: Well you made it to thirty four, right, I mean
Speaker 1: that's uh, it's a lot longer than most of us.
Speaker 3: Felt pretty good about that. Yeah, I feel pretty good
Speaker 3: about that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've been being sixteen, going to five star basketball camp
Speaker 1: and just staring across and suddenly it's do you remember
Speaker 1: god sham, god sham god?
Speaker 2: Wells oh, yes?
Speaker 3: Remember here?
Speaker 2: Like, come on, man, I could not. The drill was
Speaker 2: one on one.
Speaker 1: You just have to get to half court, and then
Speaker 1: you have to try to stop the player from getting
Speaker 1: a half court.
Speaker 2: He picked me three times. I called home.
Speaker 1: I'm like, so, I guess I'll lean into broadcasting or something,
Speaker 1: because this isn't gonna work.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Listen, if you're going to be put out by someone
Speaker 4: at sixteen, that's someone to be put out by Spence.
Speaker 4: There's nothing to take a stick out right there. You
Speaker 4: shouldn't feel bad at all.
Speaker 2: No, fair enough.
Speaker 1: You made me feel better, but it just was depressing him.
Speaker 1: Because when you're young, you're dumb, and you think you're
Speaker 1: gonna be the starting point guard for the Knicks.
Speaker 4: You do, you have no idea right that life in
Speaker 4: reality hits harder sometimes than you want it to.
Speaker 2: For sure, for sure.
Speaker 1: All right, before we get to the game last night
Speaker 1: in a vacuum, let's analyze Utah basketball through twenty games now,
Speaker 1: twenty games in the season, four and five in conference play,
Speaker 1: when they win, and what do they do well when
Speaker 1: they lose?
Speaker 2: What stalls and goes wrong?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so obviously when we turn it over. We even
Speaker 4: turned it over last night, right, And it's so frustrating
Speaker 4: because our team understands that people are turning our turnovers
Speaker 4: into easy buckets. That's been the case all league long,
Speaker 4: so that on both sides. Typically when we win, we
Speaker 4: shoot it a little bit better. We shot it well
Speaker 4: last night against the team Cincinnati, who's you know, well
Speaker 4: known for their defense. Obviously, b why you did the
Speaker 4: same thing, put up eleven for fifteen from the three.
Speaker 4: We are not doing that. But we shoot it well
Speaker 4: when we win, and we turn it over too much
Speaker 4: when we lose.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, you know that's a formula, certainly when it
Speaker 1: comes to college basketball that will dictate wins and losses.
Speaker 1: So let's get over let's get over to last night.
Speaker 1: You know what, No, let's not get it to last
Speaker 1: night because I haven't talked to you. I haven't talked
Speaker 1: to you since the BYU game, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: kick the tires with you on because I was I was,
Speaker 1: my dad, my brother, and my little niece. We all
Speaker 1: went up and I gotta tell you, Sean, I'm looking
Speaker 1: around and I ran into some college friends of mine
Speaker 1: at the game, and we all said the same thing, like, man,
Speaker 1: this feels like when we were here when Rick was
Speaker 1: the coach and when we planned our weeks around you know,
Speaker 1: Utah basketball game.
Speaker 2: So let's start with that atmosphere.
Speaker 1: And Craig himself saying after the game, Sean, fans impact
Speaker 1: winning and I guess, I guess it's not realistic to
Speaker 1: expect it's going to be like that every night because
Speaker 1: it hasn't been like that since. But what did you
Speaker 1: make of the crowd, the atmosphere for Utah BYU, you know,
Speaker 1: last Saturday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and first of all, thanks for coming and bringing everybody.
Speaker 4: And we agree, both Bill and I agree. You know,
Speaker 4: I got to be down there on the floor for
Speaker 4: part of that in the early nineties, and it was
Speaker 4: never a game when it was impact like that. The
Speaker 4: energy was always like that. Just the must section alone,
Speaker 4: you saw it. It was all the way to the Raptors.
Speaker 4: But I think there's always so much intrigue between by
Speaker 4: you and us. How we know that we understand this environment.
Speaker 4: It's always going to be good. The game almost always
Speaker 4: is going to be good. I heard Ken Palmray predicted
Speaker 4: we'd win by one. I mean, come on, that's crazy.
Speaker 4: I think that game just brings out, arguably the joy
Speaker 4: of what our state used to be. And really, I've
Speaker 4: got to give you away a credit because I think
Speaker 4: it's there. I think they still have pack houses. You know,
Speaker 4: Salt Lake may have too much to do. I don't
Speaker 4: know Ken pointed that out, but it was really fun
Speaker 4: and we want to get back there. But I do
Speaker 4: think that the product has to be NCAA tournament level
Speaker 4: maybe to get fans back in the stands.
Speaker 1: What do you think, Spence, Well, it's interesting, Sean, because
Speaker 1: if you go back over the history since Rick left
Speaker 1: the program, you know jack A Leetti had a good team.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Rick recruited Boget, we know that, but
Speaker 1: Jim had a couple of pretty good teams. The Luca
Speaker 1: Dertca Luke Neville team, I think there was an nc
Speaker 1: tournament team and Larry had two really two or three
Speaker 1: really good teams, and for whatever reason, ever since Reck
Speaker 1: has left, the attendance has been as inconsistent as to
Speaker 1: play like even when Ray or Jim or Larry had.
Speaker 2: Some decent teams. I was at a lot of those
Speaker 2: games and the fans just weren't.
Speaker 4: It.
Speaker 2: Honestly is baffling to me.
Speaker 1: I don't have an answer to it, because it can't
Speaker 1: be like, hey, we're a football school. Now now look
Speaker 1: football's over, you can go to a basketball game Like
Speaker 1: that doesn't jibe with me. And so if Craig's able
Speaker 1: to build this thing up in the Big twelve where
Speaker 1: and your reference to Ken palmmeray interview when he dropped like, hey,
Speaker 1: if you can make this tournament two like of every
Speaker 1: five years, I just kind of went, oh, but maybe,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm spoiled because those teams that you know,
Speaker 1: you played on and you were around, they didn't just
Speaker 1: go to the tournament every year. They made runs, They
Speaker 1: went to final fours, they almost won national championships. So yes,
Speaker 1: I agree with you that if the product was consistently
Speaker 1: NCAA tournament worthy, maybe more people would go. But it's
Speaker 1: kind of like I've landed on the space where I
Speaker 1: feel like, if you're a member of the Utah community
Speaker 1: and you care about Utah basketball, maybe you need to
Speaker 1: do your part a little bit too and just go
Speaker 1: because you know this, If you're being recruited to play
Speaker 1: the school and you show up to a home game
Speaker 1: and there's fifteen hundred people there, you're just like, no, thanks,
Speaker 1: I want to play in front of fans. You know
Speaker 1: the Sean players want to play in front of fans.
Speaker 3: Absolutely no, I agree with you.
Speaker 4: And it's been interesting Spence because as we travel around
Speaker 4: the Big twelve, Baylor is a good example. They put
Speaker 4: it together, a new modern field house and it's.
Speaker 3: Seventy five hundred.
Speaker 4: TCU has a field house seventy five hundred. That number
Speaker 4: may be kind of the ticket. I'm not saying change
Speaker 4: the Huntsman Center, but they're filling those up well, and
Speaker 4: the fans were loud and crazy, and even for our
Speaker 4: fan spent, if we get seventy five hundred and ninety
Speaker 4: five hundred, that's lower bowl and that's a good crowd.
Speaker 3: It can be really loud.
Speaker 1: And I agree with you, don't change the Huntsman Center.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's historic. We are are such an underrated
Speaker 1: basketball market. I mean, we have the we're the home
Speaker 1: of the highest rated basketball game in the history of
Speaker 1: pro basketball. That's Jordan's last game against the Jazz Huntsman Center.
Speaker 1: We could talk for hours about the history, but magic
Speaker 1: and bird right, I mean, so don't change the Huntsman Center.
Speaker 1: I will say I think the building could use a
Speaker 1: little love.
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't disagree in particular. You know, one of
Speaker 4: the thoughts that I think, I would say that administration
Speaker 4: is tossed around and I'm not speaking for them. I've
Speaker 4: just heard this, you know, is trying to create an
Speaker 4: atmosphere that's a little more party like and meaning you
Speaker 4: know where you go get the hot dogs in the
Speaker 4: Crimson club room. Maybe you create some kind of connection
Speaker 4: with a local eatery and a local distillery or brewery.
Speaker 4: And I know this is a taboo subject to some extent,
Speaker 4: but if we could sell beer, you know, there's an
Speaker 4: outside chance that that would bring more fans.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying out loud.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
Speaker 1: And maybe let's not have hot dogs that taste like
Speaker 1: they were Costco's throwaways from April, like they you do.
Speaker 1: Like I'm sorry, man. The concession situation is subpar. I
Speaker 1: walked by and this poor young lady was selling like
Speaker 1: granola and water set up on like a table that
Speaker 1: looked like she brought from home. And they just need
Speaker 1: to update the facilities.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: It's probably tough because if they are going over their
Speaker 1: budgets and they're talking about, okay, well we're not bringing
Speaker 1: in enough revenue with ticket rip and merchant food and
Speaker 1: bever whatever, and Mark and his group have a lot
Speaker 1: of budgetary decisions to make. And of course the football
Speaker 1: program brings in the revenue, so you're going to invest
Speaker 1: in the football program. And we should say those basketball
Speaker 1: facilities are very very nice, but the Huntsman centered itself Sean,
Speaker 1: I just think needs to be a bit modernized as all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I don't disagree in your spot on a space,
Speaker 4: do you understand what you're talking about. I mean, it's
Speaker 4: easy for me to say this is how we should
Speaker 4: do it. I'm not the one in charge of the
Speaker 4: of the finances or the ledger, and they do have
Speaker 4: a lot on their plate. I agree one hundred percent
Speaker 4: with that. I also think that you know any business
Speaker 4: owner and their business owners in essence, you know you
Speaker 4: you sometimes have to figure out a new approach and
Speaker 4: maybe a new marketing style in order to make make
Speaker 4: a product that people do want to come and your
Speaker 4: and your your points are well made. I think about
Speaker 4: just revitalizing what we have.
Speaker 1: Tell me what the feedback is, because you know, the
Speaker 1: funny thing about doing this job, the job that I
Speaker 1: do every day talking on air for four hours or
Speaker 1: our community is oftentimes I do share feedback from simply
Speaker 1: my ecosystem, my prison, my echo chamber, which honestly is
Speaker 1: probably my twenty or fifteen ten or fifteen twenty best
Speaker 1: friends from college who love Utah and they'll hear me
Speaker 1: talking about something on the show and they'll call me later,
Speaker 1: text me later like, Hey, this is the way I
Speaker 1: feel about Coach Wit, this is the way I feel
Speaker 1: about the basketball program, this is the and and so
Speaker 1: I'm fully acknowledging it's not an accurate representation of everybody
Speaker 1: who loves Utah athletics. But in your ecosystem, the people
Speaker 1: that you surround yourself with, and we have some mutual friends.
Speaker 1: I'll give Brad Bruso's shout out because he texts me
Speaker 1: every time you're on the show. What is the feedback
Speaker 1: you hear about Utah basketball. What do they say, Are
Speaker 1: people still invested or are they kind of tapped out?
Speaker 4: It's a really good question. Yeah, and you're making a
Speaker 4: really good point. We do have our own echo chambers,
Speaker 4: and obviously mine includes, like yours, people who really care
Speaker 4: about Utah basketball, which I love, and they're all invested in.
Speaker 4: I think they're all in that same kind of.
Speaker 3: Vein where over the years they.
Speaker 4: Have stopped attending games as much and for various reasons.
Speaker 4: And these are people that die blied. Excuse me, they
Speaker 4: don't die, they bleed red. They give their heart and
Speaker 4: soul to the program. And I think your point is, well,
Speaker 4: maybe maybe we need to revitalize that in some way.
Speaker 4: But I think people are frustrated. I think they want
Speaker 4: our team to go the NCAA tournament, and that's a
Speaker 4: that is a fine desire. I want that as well,
Speaker 4: and I don't I don't like the two out.
Speaker 3: Of five years spence. I want five out of five years.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't.
Speaker 4: Want it to be unrealistic, but I want roster construction
Speaker 4: and I want our Utah basketball to be meaningful again.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's not right now, but I want
Speaker 4: it to be meaningful like that for us, our chambers
Speaker 4: and other people outside us.
Speaker 1: Well, and it's it's a good point, and I think
Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is right now. It's it's
Speaker 1: not meaningless, but it doesn't mean to the community what
Speaker 1: it meant to us. And you can't you can't sell
Speaker 1: nostalgia forever. But my experience up there as a student
Speaker 1: was colored through the prism of Keith van Horn in
Speaker 1: whack tournaments, hitting game winners. It was watching Keith be
Speaker 1: the number two overall pick. It was uh it was
Speaker 1: Final Four experiences. It was Andre Miller, it was Mike Doliak,
Speaker 1: it was Britton Johnson. It was a Red Bowl away
Speaker 1: from winning a national championship because it ran out of gas.
Speaker 1: And so because of that experience, Sean, I walk into
Speaker 1: that building and it means something to me, and it's
Speaker 1: but it's different because I don't know how many young
Speaker 1: Utah fans walk into the Huntsman Center and have the
Speaker 1: same meaning.
Speaker 2: Right, Does that make sense?
Speaker 3: It makes perfect sense. I mean I couldn't.
Speaker 4: I'm the right person to be having this discussion with
Speaker 4: because I feel the exact same way. The legacy that
Speaker 4: was left for us as athletes in that Utah basketball
Speaker 4: era is very strong, and we all are connected and
Speaker 4: will forever be connected to that legacy. And whether or
Speaker 4: not you liked majerisis style, there were certainly things he
Speaker 4: said that were inappropriate, unexcusable, but his genius for what
Speaker 4: he did and what he represented in terms of just
Speaker 4: basketball became a part of who we all are. And
Speaker 4: every time we walk into that Huntsman Sent, every time
Speaker 4: I walk into the Huntsman Center, I have a sense
Speaker 4: of pride and community and joy, and I want that
Speaker 4: to be something for these young kids just like you do.
Speaker 4: I want that exact same thing to exist for the
Speaker 4: kids that are growing up and watching athletes now.
Speaker 1: I so badly wish there was some sort of medical technology,
Speaker 1: science technology just to bring Rick back, to have him,
Speaker 1: to have him react to like the modern day and
Speaker 1: age of social media and cancel culture and players on
Speaker 1: their phone at halftime, Like how do you think he
Speaker 1: would handle what college college athletics is today?
Speaker 3: I mean, like it's either Rick sway or the highway.
Speaker 4: And so I do think, like I listened to Kelvin Sampson,
Speaker 4: I think Kevin Sampson is a good example of a coach.
Speaker 3: That's a little bit like Rick.
Speaker 4: He demands the same level of attention to detail. You
Speaker 4: have to be assimon sound. He said it in his
Speaker 4: press re spense. And this can happen in today's modern
Speaker 4: day because it's happening. Kevin Sampson's an.
Speaker 3: Example of it.
Speaker 4: I think Nate Oates says it, but Kevin Sampson said,
Speaker 4: kids want to come to our program, they want to
Speaker 4: be a part of who we are. That is definitely
Speaker 4: something that Rick I think would still list it as
Speaker 4: long as he see some of the dumb things and
Speaker 4: or didn't like acknowledge that he said some of those
Speaker 4: dumb things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he survives.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And to your point, his brilliance would allow him
Speaker 1: to survive if he was able to adjust to the
Speaker 1: modern day and age, because they strictly as a tactician,
Speaker 1: as an ex as and O's guy. Uh and he look,
Speaker 1: I've said it before, I'll say it again. I think
Speaker 1: he gave his life to basketball. I think it actually
Speaker 1: may have cost him his life, right, because that's you're right,
Speaker 1: yeah right, yeah, good.
Speaker 4: There's no question that's exactly right. I mean we would
Speaker 4: we would say expense that ninety five percent of what
Speaker 4: he thought about was basketball and five percent was food.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and you're not yeah, and you're not even
Speaker 1: trying to be funny, because that's that was kind of
Speaker 1: the deal.
Speaker 2: And I know he had friends here there.
Speaker 1: I know he had relationships here or there, But if
Speaker 1: you talk to people that really knew him, that's all
Speaker 1: he wanted to do. He wanted the coach, You wanted
Speaker 1: to watch tape, you wanted to grab some pizza. That
Speaker 1: was kind of his deal.
Speaker 4: Those were they and he and it was legit. It's
Speaker 4: just who he was, you know. And like he had
Speaker 4: a great coaching staff when I was there, and to
Speaker 4: some extent, I think coaches head grew just a little
Speaker 4: bit and it kind of got things out of whack.
Speaker 4: I think personally after the ninety eight game, after the
Speaker 4: National Championship game, he maybe you should have moved on.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm glad that he didn't, but I think
Speaker 4: it was probably time. He was a builder through and
Speaker 4: through and maybe it's harder to sustain. That's my take
Speaker 4: looking back at it.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what this says about me,
Speaker 1: but living in a Marriotte with room service sounds really nice.
Speaker 2: I think I could do that. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4: No, I could totally do it if you and I
Speaker 4: would be more coouth. We're not going to, you know,
Speaker 4: show up without our clothes on when we opened the door.
Speaker 4: We wouldn't, I mean, Spence, I speaking for myself. I'm
Speaker 4: just assuming now we may be dancing when the door opens,
Speaker 4: but that's a different story.
Speaker 1: I can commit to wearing pants. I can commit to
Speaker 1: wearing pants down for sure.
Speaker 3: Thank you. I can too.
Speaker 2: Hey, So tell me what do you think Craig is pitching?
Speaker 2: What do you know?
Speaker 1: What is the recruiting pitch right now? Because ultimately the
Speaker 1: bottom line is this. I think Craig's a really good coach,
Speaker 1: and I think he's a really good man, and I'm
Speaker 1: charing hard for him. I just think more often than not,
Speaker 1: they're still not entering gyms with the same talent level
Speaker 1: as most of their opponents. He's got to get dudes,
Speaker 1: he's got to get horses.
Speaker 2: How does he do it? What's his pitch to come play? Utah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think his pitch is his personality.
Speaker 4: I agree with you. I really like Craig. It's been
Speaker 4: really fun working with him. He's genuine. He he doesn't
Speaker 4: pull punches. He says what he means to Austin particularly,
Speaker 4: you know, you're going to get some coach speak from coaches,
Speaker 4: like in post game interviews that kind of stuff, because
Speaker 4: there's so much emotion. I think he pitches togetherness. I
Speaker 4: think one of his big things is community and trying
Speaker 4: to create that community. You know, the big emphasis with
Speaker 4: this team was actually trying trying to be connec that
Speaker 4: they may not be more talented or talented as some
Speaker 4: of the Big twelve, but they wanted to be connected.
Speaker 3: And I think you're.
Speaker 4: Still seeing that. You're seeing a team that's connected, even
Speaker 4: though there's some players that aren't playing as much. And
Speaker 4: that's going to always happen in a season.
Speaker 1: All right, before I say you loose, let's talk about
Speaker 1: the game last night. It was a good one and
Speaker 1: Cincinnati preseason top twenty five.
Speaker 2: They're two and seven in conference.
Speaker 1: But man, do they guard and they make it hard,
Speaker 1: and I thought the youths did a good job for
Speaker 1: the most part of staying poise, knocking down some free throws.
Speaker 1: There was untimely turnovers for sure, but ultimately I want
Speaker 1: your thoughts. Let's start here we'll do a couple of things.
Speaker 1: There's a lot to like about Kantadas, and it seems
Speaker 1: like he's been in and out of the rotation, but
Speaker 1: strictly from an athlete standpoint, physicality, explosive standpoint, feels like
Speaker 1: there's a home for him. You know, Ezra had some
Speaker 1: foul trouble last night. But what do you make of
Speaker 1: this continuing kind of project that Craig is going through
Speaker 1: to try to figure out the lineup of the rotation
Speaker 1: he wants to land on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you heard me I said about Keana Does. Thanks
Speaker 4: for listening. Yeah, I really like Keana Does. He came
Speaker 4: in he at twelve and nine. My favorite thing about
Speaker 4: Kanah Craig said that he's young, but one of the
Speaker 4: things he does really well, if you notice, beenss he
Speaker 4: finishes around the rim with great concentration. Ye, he doesn't.
Speaker 4: She doesn't struggle when he gets around the rim, and
Speaker 4: he made some really tough shots last night. But it's
Speaker 4: his rebounding. I love his rebounding. You just you can't
Speaker 4: put a price tag on that. And then as Man,
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. When as gets going, it's hard
Speaker 4: to stop him. And he got it going early and
Speaker 4: then he had this situation where he got that technical
Speaker 4: and he kind of got in his own head and
Speaker 4: just made some kind of lazy passes. And you know,
Speaker 4: it's not my position where you bring him back in,
Speaker 4: but he did get it going. And when they went
Speaker 4: to as is the five and coach alluded to this
Speaker 4: last night, we're pretty hard to defend because Keanu does
Speaker 4: is more like a guard really than he is a
Speaker 4: big and he cuts well and he finishes well. So
Speaker 4: I like him both, and I think you're gonna see
Speaker 4: more of that. You know, Austin is doing a great child.
Speaker 4: We're running our offense throw but it's hard on him
Speaker 4: and they're starting to put more pressure on him on
Speaker 4: those dhos, the dribble handoffs and the handoffs and the passes.
Speaker 4: So you may see us go small more in our lineup.
Speaker 1: Give me a thought on Gabe because the easy thing
Speaker 1: that the easy thing that people point to is like, wait,
Speaker 1: he's a shooter that has horrible shooting percentages. I continue
Speaker 1: to point out if you're watching games, you know that
Speaker 1: teams are just simply selling out on him and Utah's
Speaker 1: success in my opinion moving forward will be can Hunter
Speaker 1: Erickson knock down some shots based off of the gravity.
Speaker 1: You know, can Mike or whoever it is, Ezra can
Speaker 1: Jake knock down some three. So for youth fans that
Speaker 1: have been critical on their most important offensive player, where's
Speaker 1: your current take on Gabe Madson.
Speaker 4: First of all, it was really nice to see gave
Speaker 4: hit that first three. Bill and I are just as
Speaker 4: invested as you, you know, and we really want him
Speaker 4: to have success. And man, for any fan out there
Speaker 4: that wants to come and try and play against a
Speaker 4: big twelve team where you're the number one person they
Speaker 4: want to stop, good luck. That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 4: Last night, Gabe Matson did a great job with Lawston.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you noticed the two man games
Speaker 4: that they had. They had really good action and it
Speaker 4: was effective, in particular against Cincinnati the way they played
Speaker 4: those on ball screens. But then Gabe mats and Hiss
Speaker 4: the big curl to a shot, a jump shot, fifteen
Speaker 4: foot jump shot and makes the free throws. Gabe's our guy.
Speaker 4: He's not Brandon Carlson. Brandon Carloson, with seven feet tall,
Speaker 4: could post up demanded a double. Gabe don post up
Speaker 4: doesn't demand a double, but gave demands doubles on the outside,
Speaker 4: and we're starting to use him more effectively, I think,
Speaker 4: and he's just going to I think he's going to
Speaker 4: continue to have a better and better game spence as
Speaker 4: we move into the second half of Big Twelve.
Speaker 1: Play all right, Sean, before I said you lose, it's
Speaker 1: interesting to look at it like this. Okay, So they
Speaker 1: get the win last night against Cincinnati, and now the
Speaker 1: next four you're at Oklahoma State, you're home against Colorado,
Speaker 1: you're at West Virginia, you're at Cincinnati. The road stuff
Speaker 1: in the Big Twelve is going to be tough no
Speaker 1: matter who it is. However, after that, that's when it's Kansas.
Speaker 1: That's when it's case stay like, it gets really really
Speaker 1: tough after the next four games. So what, I know,
Speaker 1: you want them to win every game, but over the
Speaker 1: next four what should you fans be looking for before
Speaker 1: the schedule gets extremely difficult.
Speaker 4: A couple of things. One, Oklahoma State, we've got to
Speaker 4: win a TCO. I think TC is a better team
Speaker 4: Oklahoma State. Olahoma State doesn't shoot it as well. I
Speaker 4: think we have a legitimate chance to go in there
Speaker 4: and still on I'm not saying it's going to be easy,
Speaker 4: but I think we can. We need to out rebound
Speaker 4: that team. They're a very good rebounding team. We did
Speaker 4: a good job on their big guy Bugatti. Hopefully we
Speaker 4: can continue to do that and then play them as
Speaker 4: drivers and cut them off and wall them up defensively.
Speaker 4: And then I think, I mean, Colorado is we should
Speaker 4: be at home. That's just the reality. They're not as
Speaker 4: good this year. So you know, I'm I'm wouldn't be
Speaker 4: surprised if we come out of this on its three
Speaker 4: game winning straight. And then of course I think Kansas
Speaker 4: comes to down.
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, and that will be quite the test. Sean,
Speaker 1: thanks for the time, man, Appreciate it, and we'll get
Speaker 1: you back on soon.
Speaker 3: Be well, okay, thanks, Bence, have a good afternoon, all right.
Speaker 2: Sean Mooney one of the nicest dudes.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: He always puts me in a good mood. Appreciate his time.