Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, the great American.
Speaker 2: Welcome.
Speaker 1: This floor is Wednesday afternoon. The triscaate. The sun is out,
Speaker 1: a little bit chilly, not too bad. Red's baseball to
Speaker 1: then I kicks off about five forty. First, bitch about
Speaker 1: six forty. The Reds are impregnable. They can't be beaten.
Speaker 1: They open up about two and six. Since then they
Speaker 1: have been seven and two with the best record in baseball.
Speaker 1: Do you believe that? And also, tomorrow's a business special.
Speaker 1: It won't be with you on Thursday. Back out it
Speaker 1: again on Friday, but once again. One of the foundations
Speaker 1: of the development of the city of Cincinnati for the
Speaker 1: past twenty years has been a group called three C
Speaker 1: d C, which stands for Cincinnati Center City Development Corporation
Speaker 1: IE three CDC dot org. You may recall about twenty
Speaker 1: years ago the powers that be in the city went
Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh, the home of the Steelers and the Pirates,
Speaker 1: to pick a young guy named Steve Leeper who had
Speaker 1: some idea about what to do with city development, and
Speaker 1: he was hired to come to Cincinnati. After many of
Speaker 1: the riots that we had, and you might recall that
Speaker 1: I related to time Charlie Luken and I took a
Speaker 1: walk up Vine Street and we were stepping over human bodies.
Speaker 1: There was a movie theaters that were caving in. It
Speaker 1: looked like Bangladesh And all of a sudden, after twenty
Speaker 1: years flies by when you have them fund. Steve Leaper
Speaker 1: has been here since April of twenty zero. Forces been
Speaker 1: here twenty years celebrating I guess his twentieth year in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: And Steve Leeper, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: And Steve, first of all, can you describe to the
Speaker 1: people the kind of city you found in April of twenty.
Speaker 2: Four Bill, thanks for having me well. I think it
Speaker 2: was a city that saw a need to make some
Speaker 2: improvements and invest their capital. And I saw a city
Speaker 2: coming together because thanks to Mayor Charlie Lucan and ag Laughley,
Speaker 2: they got together and said we see a need for change,
Speaker 2: and we intend to take the steps to do so. Think,
Speaker 2: in particular, the over Line neighborhood was one where the
Speaker 2: disinvestment was pretty blatant, as you described. I think the
Speaker 2: settle this investment downtown due to the uncertainty of where
Speaker 2: Overline was going to go. I think that was his
Speaker 2: concern to the corporate leadership and that in the elected
Speaker 2: officials as there.
Speaker 1: The run was because we were going to become Toledo,
Speaker 1: and God blessed Toledo. I went to law school there,
Speaker 1: but there was no reasons had to happen. So the
Speaker 1: powers that be, the corporate leadership, the fifth third Banks
Speaker 1: to John Barrett's, the Procter and Gambles, and at that
Speaker 1: point Macy's and others said we can't have this because
Speaker 1: this is terrible. And so you were hired to do
Speaker 1: what twenty years ago? What was your mission? What was
Speaker 1: your mission statement?
Speaker 2: Well, you know they had already through the Cincinnati Business Committee,
Speaker 2: had done some a lot of work. They had hired
Speaker 2: HRNA consulting firm out of New York City who came
Speaker 2: in and assessed the situation and said, you need to
Speaker 2: focus on three areas. Obviously, you need to begin the
Speaker 2: redevelopment of over the Rhine, but first and foremost you
Speaker 2: ought to try to start with your strength and redo
Speaker 2: Fountain Square. And then they also said, you know, you
Speaker 2: need to get the banks moving up and out of
Speaker 2: the ground. And probably I don't I can't remember, but
Speaker 2: it was about six months into it. Maybe a year
Speaker 2: quite a year where the county decided to take the
Speaker 2: banks on its own, which you know, could have been
Speaker 2: communicated a little better. But you know, when you look
Speaker 2: back in history, that was as far as we were concerned,
Speaker 2: that's the best thing could have happened, because it was
Speaker 2: just too much for you know, a fledgling organization and
Speaker 2: where you know, we're three guys in a truck trying
Speaker 2: to get this thing done, and I think it would
Speaker 2: have taken ours office. Really what was the most important,
Speaker 2: which was you know, shoring up downtown through reinvestments, starting
Speaker 2: with Fountain Square and then beginning this sort of difficult
Speaker 2: task of turning over the Rhine from a blighted neighborhood
Speaker 2: to a thriving one.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Of course, my family goes deep into the roots
Speaker 1: of Washington Park. You might recall Old Conny William Cunningham
Speaker 1: was a mortician, he was a resurrectionist, and my family
Speaker 1: goes deep into Washington Park, which was a burial ground
Speaker 1: for those who had the diseases from nineteen nineteen but
Speaker 1: also from the Civil War era. So you looked at
Speaker 1: Fountain Square that needed serious help, you looked at Washington
Speaker 1: Park that was a place where police cars are rolled
Speaker 1: over the bodies of dead homeless women. That wasn't good.
Speaker 1: And then the banks was kind of a county deal
Speaker 1: that developed by itself. These things don't happen by themselves.
Speaker 1: How much total money twenty years. I read an article
Speaker 1: about you from twenty sixteen that had a billion dollars,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna ask about what's going on now, especially
Speaker 1: now that pay Corps appears to be they've been bought out.
Speaker 1: What's going to happen with that? We're not sure, But
Speaker 1: give us the overview of twenty years, how many billions
Speaker 1: of dollars, how many apartments, how many condos, how many
Speaker 1: parking spaces? Because if Steve Leeper three CDC corporate leadership
Speaker 1: and government partnerships, give.
Speaker 2: Us the overview, Steve, it's not because of me. It's
Speaker 2: because of the corporate community in their commitment and staying
Speaker 2: with us for twenty years. I mean, this is I'm
Speaker 2: seeing this in other cities where they are facing a
Speaker 2: lot of the same challenges we were, even you know,
Speaker 2: twenty years ago, and they don't have the corporate strength,
Speaker 2: nor the commitment and the public leadership to form a
Speaker 2: partnership between the public and private sector. So really this
Speaker 2: is this is really the corporate community and staying together
Speaker 2: and the city because this city has been such a
Speaker 2: great partner. But we've now crossed our two billions dollar
Speaker 2: that we've invested and or oversaw the management of. And
Speaker 2: it's a series of buildings. Of course, the civic spaces
Speaker 2: you talked about, you know, Fountain Square, Washington Park, Siglar Park,
Speaker 2: Memorial Hall, redoing Music Hall, which was an effort that
Speaker 2: we took on on behalf of the city, and the
Speaker 2: Musical Revitization Corporation. We've done you know, three comprehensive residential
Speaker 2: and service facilities for the homeless, which was the former
Speaker 2: two of the buildings of the former Dropping Center, and
Speaker 2: then one is the City Gospel Mission. And we've been
Speaker 2: you know, we've have hundreds of thousands of square feet
Speaker 2: of commercial space, and we've been focusing mostly on street
Speaker 2: level and controlling the street level. And so what you
Speaker 2: see in over the Rhine is, you know, all those
Speaker 2: establishments up and down Seine Street are because we felt
Speaker 2: so strongly that street level and getting the right businesses
Speaker 2: at that street level is so important in the development
Speaker 2: of the neighborhood, and you now see that downtown around
Speaker 2: the old Macy's, the Foundry building and the new one
Speaker 2: be Sacks, and what we did at the old Masonet site.
Speaker 2: I mean, these are things that were very intentional and
Speaker 2: thought through. And fortunately we have the entrepreneurial partners, the
Speaker 2: restaurant tours, the entertainment facilities, the retailers. Those are the
Speaker 2: real heroes here because they've We're so unique that we
Speaker 2: don't have a lot of chain restaurants and so it's
Speaker 2: very few and now downtown one that I can think
Speaker 2: of is mccormicky Smith. But other than that, everything and
Speaker 2: everything and over line is genuine local Cincinnati ones that
Speaker 2: we should be proud of, and that is not the
Speaker 2: case in most cities.
Speaker 1: Why is in I guess I could ask why is
Speaker 1: this not duplicated enough cities? And it's because you don't
Speaker 1: have the corporate community that Cincinnati has along with the
Speaker 1: ability of government to get things done. And Steve Laper,
Speaker 1: you're kind of in the middle. You have a foot
Speaker 1: in both kingdoms, the public and the private. Looking ahead
Speaker 1: to the Duke Energy Center into the big hotel, what's
Speaker 1: the status of that of that as we speak this
Speaker 1: this Wednesday afternoon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the the new renovate, the newly renovated convention
Speaker 2: Center is on track. It's on budget. We will complete
Speaker 2: that by the end of the year and the first
Speaker 2: show will be in their first part of January will
Speaker 2: be Redcest So we're excited to work with the Reds
Speaker 2: on that. It will have a public plaza next to it.
Speaker 2: So what used to be the former Millennium site, we're
Speaker 2: closing Elm Street permanently north of between dist and six,
Speaker 2: so that will uh be one law large plaza. We're
Speaker 2: actually moving bringing a new skating rink to downtown and
Speaker 2: we're putting what was the skating rink that was on
Speaker 2: Fountain Square We're moving to the Elm Street plaza because
Speaker 2: we had used to have to jerry rig that thing
Speaker 2: into the into Mountain Square and I think this is
Speaker 2: going to be no more. And then we're going to
Speaker 2: do a really great winner holiday Christmas like installation is
Speaker 2: Fountain Square that will be attractive to leave the tree
Speaker 2: there and just have that what is that two block
Speaker 2: stroll that you're going to have with with Salazars and
Speaker 2: the new Flight club that's moving in the Salazan Flight Club.
Speaker 2: We're moving into the old tracks. We've got Meta's, we've
Speaker 2: got we've got vintage, we've got you know, the new
Speaker 2: Mary Gold, We've got the five Iron Golf, all of
Speaker 2: that along that strip on Fistreet leading to the Davidson
Speaker 2: and of course Ruby's. Then you get to the Square
Speaker 2: and then you go through the past messageway near at
Speaker 2: Soto and Boca and Nigbies, and so we think we
Speaker 2: got a lot to offer both the folks within Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: but certainly folks outside of Cincinnati. So the hotel is
Speaker 2: well on its way. That skating rink will be up
Speaker 2: in November of this year, and then the Convention Center hotel.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, we've been tightened through the the high interest
Speaker 2: rates and construction costs and all those kinds of things,
Speaker 2: but we're putting our head down. Our goal is to
Speaker 2: bring a financing package to the city and county by
Speaker 2: June thirtieth of this year. And we've already started some construction,
Speaker 2: some environmental work on the site which is right next
Speaker 2: right across the street from the Convention Center, and then
Speaker 2: we're going to start We bought that old garage that
Speaker 2: sits across from the Convention Center has that ramp that
Speaker 2: goes up and right, Oh, we're going to start. Well, no,
Speaker 2: that's the post we were at Fourth and The Pope's
Speaker 2: Garage used to be at Fourth and Race. This one
Speaker 2: it's called a Wex garage. It's sort of nondescript. It's ugly,
Speaker 2: but we're going to do a major renovation of it,
Speaker 2: and that starts in about a month. So things are
Speaker 2: moving along. Sacks is moving along as well. Pay Court
Speaker 2: is moving in. They're keeping the name. They are moving in.
Speaker 2: They're under construction and there we've finished the base building.
Speaker 2: They're doing their tenant improvements and build out and they
Speaker 2: should be in this fall. And then of course the
Speaker 2: two restaurants are under construction as well, so that that building,
Speaker 2: which was a little bit of a dysfunctional sort of building,
Speaker 2: is going to turn into a pretty spectacular building that
Speaker 2: will complement the foundry.
Speaker 1: You got to be glad you got out of Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: in of this for twenty years. But Steven, we thought
Speaker 1: about getting to the to the Middle East with your talents.
Speaker 1: You got the Gaza, you got Hesbala, you got Hamas,
Speaker 1: got the IDF. You have difficulties with the hostages. Have
Speaker 1: you thought about broaden your ability to get to the
Speaker 1: Middle East and solve those problems?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you talk about an international incident and if
Speaker 2: I went over there, it would.
Speaker 1: Not You do this, You do that. And suddenly, let
Speaker 1: me share with you an email that I received yesterday
Speaker 1: when I announced you were going to come on, and
Speaker 1: you know what you've done for the city. You ought
Speaker 1: to get the gold medal, You ought to be retired,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, three C d C, Steve Leeper. But
Speaker 1: this email says three C d C has overseen the
Speaker 1: transformation of OTR by evicting and displacing families lived there
Speaker 1: for generations from underserved working class neighborhood into a playground
Speaker 1: for the rich and famous. And so no matter what
Speaker 1: you do, I guess this person thinks you should have
Speaker 1: kept it the way it was was look like Bangladesh, And.
Speaker 2: So that is it was funny you should say that
Speaker 2: because we were I was in Saint Louis yesterday talking
Speaker 2: to corporate leaders. Asked to volunteer to come down and
Speaker 2: talk to the corporate leaders there. We were scoring over
Speaker 2: photos of of of the before of early on and
Speaker 2: they said, well, did you get pushed back and do
Speaker 2: people thinking. I said, the best way to describe this
Speaker 2: is is that does anybody think these photos and what
Speaker 2: that neighborhood look like was acceptable? Is this something as
Speaker 2: a community we should be proud of? Or is this
Speaker 2: is something we should change? That neighborhood is a diverse
Speaker 2: of a neighborhood, though I've seen restaurants there. You walk
Speaker 2: the people all walks of life. There are people living
Speaker 2: in affordable housing living right next to conomins. That Washington
Speaker 2: Park is the most diverse park in the city. That
Speaker 2: Ziggler Park. We did six hundred swim lessons for kids
Speaker 2: last year. We ran a summer camp for kids at free,
Speaker 2: free of charge. We have a swim team over there
Speaker 2: that we do. I mean to hear that sort of
Speaker 2: tired narrative is frustrating for me because of all the
Speaker 2: hard work that my colleagues do, our partners do, our
Speaker 2: corporate community gives, our city gives the change of a
Speaker 2: community to make it better. Yeah. Certainly, by the way,
Speaker 2: could we've done things differently over the last time.
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 2: Sure. The things we stepped on absolutely absolutely, And we
Speaker 2: are not beyond people challenging us and even criticizing us.
Speaker 2: Look I got thick skin. I don't really you know,
Speaker 2: I don't take things personally. On the other hand, it
Speaker 2: needs to be backed up by facts.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, you remind me of the comments of
Speaker 1: when Teddy Roosevelt about the critics. You always see how
Speaker 1: the do or deeds have done something wrong? Have you
Speaker 1: give mess We have about two minutes remaining. Give me
Speaker 1: the next five to ten years. I assume Steve Lieper,
Speaker 1: you're going to be there for a while. Don't go
Speaker 1: back to Pittsburgh. It's terrible. In the next five to
Speaker 1: ten years. What do you see happening in the city corps,
Speaker 1: OTR and Washington Park the banks. Give me the plan
Speaker 1: for the next five years.
Speaker 2: Well, I think the main thing that we're focused on,
Speaker 2: Bill and this is this is we have a great
Speaker 2: partnership with the city, the city manager show along the mayor,
Speaker 2: astab and the city council members. But we are moving
Speaker 2: aggressively north of Liberty. So if you go up Vine
Speaker 2: Street as you do, I mean you go from one
Speaker 2: sort of stage of life to another, and it is
Speaker 2: a challenge and it looks like we're start all over again.
Speaker 2: So we closed on the financing a new Crossroads Health
Speaker 2: center which is presently at the corner of Liberty and Vine,
Speaker 2: and we are moving it and rebuilding one at the
Speaker 2: old at the City Rec Center that's near a family market,
Speaker 2: and we are going to close at the end of
Speaker 2: this month on a fifty million dollars new community center
Speaker 2: that's going to be not only a recreational facility, but
Speaker 2: an educational and a health facility that is going to
Speaker 2: be serving children in that neighborhood and take some of
Speaker 2: the things that we do in Zigler Park and moving
Speaker 2: indoors during the non summer months, and we're going to
Speaker 2: program with the CRC and a daycare provider. We're going
Speaker 2: to have eight thousand square for daycare there. So these
Speaker 2: are the things that we think are serving the community.
Speaker 2: I think maybe that guy didn't know who wrote that email,
Speaker 2: didn't know we were getting involved in that care. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but this is again corporate leadership in this town, raising
Speaker 2: over ten million dollars in grant money from philanthropic to
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati stepping up with almost twenty four million dollars.
Speaker 2: So this again is a public private partnership. It's going
Speaker 2: to transform that It's right at that corner of Micken
Speaker 2: and Vine, and it's going to PLoP there and it's
Speaker 2: gonna I genuinely believe it's going to have major change.
Speaker 2: And then say two of that will be then housing,
Speaker 2: all from vying up affordable, affordable home ownership, market rate
Speaker 2: housing and what I think will be a great blended community.
Speaker 1: Well, it's beautiful. Keep going, don't stop. There are always
Speaker 1: going to be out there. I lived through the good days,
Speaker 1: the bad days. This is the best that's ever been
Speaker 1: that part of town. And before are you aware of
Speaker 1: my family's deep roots in Washington Park?
Speaker 2: I did not know that.
Speaker 1: I want you to google. I want you to google
Speaker 1: William Cunningham resurrectionist, and you talk about my family's roots
Speaker 1: or in Washington Park. This guy was unbelievable. He's my
Speaker 1: great great great grandfather and he was headquartered in Washington
Speaker 1: Park in the eighteen seventies. You're gonna love this story.
Speaker 1: Tell Rudim Miller, tell Joe to William Cunningham, a resurrectionist.
Speaker 1: This guy is unbelievable and my roots deep.
Speaker 2: Your listener should know that what you're saying is true.
Speaker 2: I mean that was a popper's grave. Yeah. And when
Speaker 2: we redid fund Washington Park, we had about eighty one
Speaker 2: hundred and ninety sets of remains that we reinterned at
Speaker 2: Spring Growth.
Speaker 1: Well, the thing I had to do, Steve, he was
Speaker 1: he was a resurrectionist, a body snatcher, and he did
Speaker 1: it for profit, and so he cooperated with the police.
Speaker 1: But just look up William Cunningham Washington Parking. The Inquired
Speaker 1: did a big story on him one hundred and forty
Speaker 1: years ago. But we got to run Steve Leeper. I'll see,
Speaker 1: I'll see on the sidewalk somewhere in Vine Street at
Speaker 1: some point. But please keep doing what you're doing. And
Speaker 1: once again three CDC dot org and Steve Leaper, the CEO,
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, the great
Speaker 1: great great grandson of the resurrectionist William Cunningham.
Speaker 2: Bill, thanks for having me check.
Speaker 1: Check it out. All right, let's continue with more Steve Leeper,
Speaker 1: And if you have time today, just google William Cunningham,
Speaker 1: resurrectionist or body snatcher and you'll see in my family's
Speaker 1: history deep into the soil of Washington Park on news
Speaker 1: Radio seven hundred WLW I Billie Cunningham, the Grant American.
Speaker 1: After one o'clock today will be Sheriff Chermaine McGuffey to
Speaker 1: address the concern she has that you're right to vote
Speaker 1: for county officeholders is being eroded by the Republicans and Columbus.
Speaker 1: But then later on two o'clock today, we scheduled Speaker
Speaker 1: of the House, Matt Hoffman to be here. And as
Speaker 1: far as getting rid of all these elections for county offices,
Speaker 1: that as I understand it, there wasn't hearings held, and
Speaker 1: someone started into a bill that passed the House, and
Speaker 1: that would mean that the county corner in this case,
Speaker 1: doctor Samarco, would serve out her term. Then when it
Speaker 1: was over, the county commissioners would appoint a corner or
Speaker 1: a medical examiner of their choosing instead of someone selected
Speaker 1: by you. And of course I've heard this for years
Speaker 1: that the idea is reforming county government and streamline government,
Speaker 1: all of which I'm in favor of. I think streamlining
Speaker 1: is good and reformation generally is good. If something's wrong,
Speaker 1: make it better, absolutely, But then it takes away the
Speaker 1: right of the people to vote for those who will,
Speaker 1: in a sense, govern them in many important aspects of
Speaker 1: your life. Now, the old system was, it was patronage.
Speaker 1: These five or six county offices existed so that the
Speaker 1: patronage system could fully be implemented. So if you were
Speaker 1: war chairman, you could get a job in county government.
Speaker 1: Now they're not so desirable because it doesn't pay a
Speaker 1: lot of money. And secondly, there's many counties are either
Speaker 1: all Republican or all Democrat. It is rare to have
Speaker 1: a county in Ohio or Kentucky or Indiana that goes
Speaker 1: back and forth. And eighty counties in Ohio are completely
Speaker 1: Republican and about eight counties there's eighty eight counties. Eight
Speaker 1: counties are completely Democrat. It's hard to get elected in
Speaker 1: this county if you're a Republican countywide, and it's very
Speaker 1: hard to be elected as a Democrat in Warren County.
Speaker 1: Would you agree? So there's been a split politically. So
Speaker 1: now's the time that conservative Republicans, who I generally support
Speaker 1: in Columbus want to strike and get rid of county
Speaker 1: offices in the sense the duties would be done by
Speaker 1: someone other than an elected person. So Sheriff Charmaine McGuffey
Speaker 1: will be here after one o'clock to address that, and
Speaker 1: at two o'clock we've scheduled Speaker of the House Matt Huffman,
Speaker 1: who's some say the most powerful man in Ohio politics,
Speaker 1: even bigger than Governor Mike DeWine, who is with you
Speaker 1: and I yesterday, because he's the one that has a
Speaker 1: veto proof house, and he was President of the Senate
Speaker 1: for a few years before that, so he knows where
Speaker 1: the bodies are buried, all over Allen County and all
Speaker 1: over Lima. That's where he's from when he went to
Speaker 1: school that you see, got a law degree from here.
Speaker 1: And now he's the powerful Speaker of the House who
Speaker 1: puts in the bill whatever he wants and generally gets
Speaker 1: it passed, and if the governor doesn't like it, he's
Speaker 1: got a veto proof majority to override the governor's veto
Speaker 1: line on in veto, et cetera. So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: But this thing is going to be resolved in the
Speaker 1: next few weeks because by June the thirtieth there must
Speaker 1: be a two year budget put forward. And what are
Speaker 1: we now in the middle of April, so it's about
Speaker 1: ten weeks away and away we go. Secondly, the news
Speaker 1: media has worked itself into a soft pretzel, complaining about
Speaker 1: the behavior accorded to Abrego Garcia, who's not a US citizen.
Speaker 1: I've heard some media accounts that is the US citizen.
Speaker 2: No, he's not.
Speaker 1: He's a citizen of Al Salvador. He's from Al Salvador,
Speaker 1: and he was smuggled into this country illegally when he
Speaker 1: was eleven years old. I'm sorry, when he was sixteen
Speaker 1: years old in the year twenty eleven, so he was born.
Speaker 1: That means he would have been born in Whateen nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety four, nineteen ninety five, something like that. So the
Speaker 1: guy's about thirty years old presently, came into the country illegally,
Speaker 1: and as far as we can determine, Abrego Garcia has
Speaker 1: been in the country roughly for fourteen years illegally, every
Speaker 1: day that he's been here, and he's worked a little
Speaker 1: bit of construction. He got married and raising three children,
Speaker 1: all with disabilities, according to court records, on public assistance
Speaker 1: including food stamps and housing allowances and Abrallo Garcia denied
Speaker 1: allegations he's a member of MS thirteen. You and I
Speaker 1: can't sit here and talk radio to determine if Garcia
Speaker 1: is a member of MS thirteen or not. Rely upon
Speaker 1: actually two judges who both determined that he is a
Speaker 1: member of MS thirteen. He is such an active member
Speaker 1: in MS thirteen he was ordered deported by a federal
Speaker 1: judge in twenty nineteen and he said, enough's enough. You've
Speaker 1: been here illegally now for the last eight years. Get
Speaker 1: out of the country. His lawyer came up with the
Speaker 1: idea that judge, if you do that, he'll be killed
Speaker 1: in El Salvador because he's in the wrong gang. He's
Speaker 1: not in TDA, he's in MS thirteen. So the lawyers
Speaker 1: argued to the judge, look, if you order him deported
Speaker 1: immediately and he must leave the country be flown back,
Speaker 1: he'll be killed because he's got a well founded fear
Speaker 1: of gang persecution. According according to his file, and when
Speaker 1: he made that allegation, he was released from custody. Garcia
Speaker 1: checked in with ICE yearly while the Department of Homeland
Speaker 1: Security under Joe Biden, by the way, under Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: issued him a work permit, but there's no evidence that
Speaker 1: he worked, although he claims he joined a union and
Speaker 1: was employed full time as a sheep metal apprentice. He
Speaker 1: got married to a woman named Vasquez Sura that together.
Speaker 1: They have a five year old son who is autism,
Speaker 1: is deaf in one ear and unable to communicate verbally.
Speaker 1: According to the complaint filed against the Trump administration, they're
Speaker 1: also raising a nine year old and a ten year
Speaker 1: old of a previous relationship the mother had with others.
Speaker 1: One has autism and the other one has epilepsy. All
Speaker 1: are on government help, getting checks checks in the mail,
Speaker 1: and at this point, about ten minutes ago, Judge Bosburg,
Speaker 1: the federal judge having jurisdiction of this case, has held
Speaker 1: the Trump administration in criminal contempt for not following his orders. Now,
Speaker 1: the orders dealt with the three planes that were traveling
Speaker 1: from Texas to El Salvador with several hundred gang one
Speaker 1: of whom was this Abrego Garcia guy and the other
Speaker 1: ones when told to turn the planes around over the Yucatan.
Speaker 1: There's some doubt about the facts on this thing, but
Speaker 1: the Trump administration said, we don't have the power to
Speaker 1: turn them around. They weren't US personnel, they were under
Speaker 1: a contract with US government, and by the time they
Speaker 1: got to the Yucatan, they were about an hour and
Speaker 1: a half away from landing. So they just went ahead
Speaker 1: and landed because the Trump administration says, you don't have
Speaker 1: the power to tell us what to do with foreign relations.
Speaker 1: We've worked out a deal with Venice a whale to
Speaker 1: take back their criminals. We've worked out a deal with
Speaker 1: El Salvador to take back their criminals. And the president
Speaker 1: of L Salvador was with the President two days ago
Speaker 1: who said this, Garcia is a well known member of
Speaker 1: MS thirteen and he's not going anywhere. He's in our custody.
Speaker 1: And Trump can ask that I release him, but I'm
Speaker 1: not releasing the guy. He's our citizen, not yours. He
Speaker 1: committed crimes in L Salvador, many crimes in America, one
Speaker 1: of which was coming into the country illegally. He was
Speaker 1: ordered out of the out of this country. Two judges
Speaker 1: have said leave the country. You're in MS thirteen. He
Speaker 1: refused to leave. Then under the Biden administration, as lawyers
Speaker 1: came up with a gymnastic argument that he fears he's
Speaker 1: suffering from persecution. Then he got in line with other
Speaker 1: ones demanding a hearing. And that's where we are today
Speaker 1: and for the last several days. Just like the Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Goldberg thing about two weeks ago, he was included on
Speaker 1: a chain email and listening to some of the plans
Speaker 1: to bomb parts of Yemen. That was a big media
Speaker 1: deal for like ten days, and looking to my left,
Speaker 1: every story on the left wing media. Judge finds probable
Speaker 1: cause to hold Trump administration and contempt for deporting Venezuela
Speaker 1: and migrant despite court order to stop planes. And I'm
Speaker 1: looking at this and I'm saying, how many of real
Speaker 1: Americans like you and I, actual working, functioning Americans care
Speaker 1: one twit about MS thirteen. And of course CNN is
Speaker 1: constantly calling this a constitutional crisis. It's terrible. So they
Speaker 1: have a chief legal correspondent named Paula Reid every now
Speaker 1: and then it makes some sense. So is the Trump
Speaker 1: administration in contempt of court? Is is Donald Trump disobeying
Speaker 1: a Supreme Court order? Here's the chief CNN legal correspondent,
Speaker 1: Paula Reid, in her own words, hit it. It's buffering,
Speaker 1: it's getting ready, it's still buffering.
Speaker 3: President Trump and President of Bukela made it clear that
Speaker 3: Abregogussia will not be returned to the United States. And
Speaker 3: despite this US Supreme Court ruling saying that Trump had
Speaker 3: to facilitate his return. So Are they just ignoring a
Speaker 3: US Supreme Court ruling, or is the fact that the
Speaker 3: ruling was so mushy in your words, yes, giving him
Speaker 3: an opener.
Speaker 4: It's a technical term I learned in Lost Skull Jake
Speaker 4: mushy look working within the ambiguity that the Supreme Court
Speaker 4: justices gave them. They did not order the administration to
Speaker 4: return him to the United States. They said that they
Speaker 4: need to facilitate this return. They could have said we
Speaker 4: order him return, but they didn't do that. So she
Speaker 4: heard the Attorney General. She was being very careful in
Speaker 4: the oval office, which she was asked, you know, would
Speaker 4: you help? She says, of course, we'd provide a plane
Speaker 4: right thereby facilitating whatever else Salvador is doing. The Supreme
Speaker 4: Court appeared to defer to the executive branch, given that
Speaker 4: this is an international matter. And you see, yes, it
Speaker 4: does look a little bit like a cement thic game,
Speaker 4: but they are playing within the bounds of what the
Speaker 4: Supreme Court ruled. So no, they are not defying this order.
Speaker 3: And take a listen to how White House Deputy Chief
Speaker 3: of Staff Stephen Miller views it.
Speaker 5: And a District Court judge tried to tell the administration
Speaker 5: that they had to kidnap a citizen of L.
Speaker 1: Salvador and flying back here.
Speaker 5: That issue was raised with the Supreme Court, and the
Speaker 5: Supreme Court said the District court order was unlawful and
Speaker 5: its main opponents were verse nine zero unanimously stating clearly
Speaker 5: that neither Secretary of State nor the President could be
Speaker 5: compelled by anybody to forcibly retrieve a citizen of L.
Speaker 6: Salvador.
Speaker 4: Steven, you got the win.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know why he had to go so far
Speaker 4: because what he's saying is not completely accurate. I want
Speaker 4: to talk to the kind I'm all right. So the
Speaker 4: District Court said that the administration needed to facilitate and
Speaker 4: effectuate the return of this man Tee, and it states
Speaker 4: and gave a date. The Supreme Court says, yes, you
Speaker 4: need to facilitate this, but when it comes to effectuating
Speaker 4: making it happen, they said this needs to go back
Speaker 4: down to the lower court. They need to clarify what
Speaker 4: that meant. And they warned the lower court, you need
Speaker 4: to be deferential to the executive branch because we're talking
Speaker 4: about foreign affairs. And they gave no deadline. So again
Speaker 4: they're not running a foul. But Steven's summary of the
Speaker 4: case there the holding, it's not exactly accurate.
Speaker 1: All right, Paula Reed, thanks so much. Appreciate it. With
Speaker 1: so CNN, which is not exactly a Trump supporter. They're
Speaker 1: not ignoring a Supreme Court order. They are doing what
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court said they can do or should do.
Speaker 1: And this has much ado about nothing nothing, but if
Speaker 1: it's an issue that the mainstream media, of the liberal
Speaker 1: media can drive through the middle of the American people
Speaker 1: to divide us, do you want to get on the
Speaker 1: side of Garcia. He's a gang banger twice, he's been
Speaker 1: shall we say order to port it. He's here illegally.
Speaker 1: He's been here illegally for about the last of fourteen years,
Speaker 1: and he's on public assistance out the walls who ordered
Speaker 1: out of the country. He's not a US citizen. And
Speaker 1: where is he now. He's languishing in a jail where
Speaker 1: he belongs to l Salvador. Now that it is said
Speaker 1: that he got married, he got married in prison. By
Speaker 1: the way, it's said that he has children with disabilities.
Speaker 1: I'm sure the Czechs will keep on coming. But the
Speaker 1: guy is here illegally. He was ordered out of the country,
Speaker 1: and he's now in the country of his origin, and
Speaker 1: he's within the jurisdiction not of Donald Trump. Salvador, and
Speaker 1: the president of Al Salvador said a couple of days ago,
Speaker 1: he's not going back. How does Donald Trump comply with
Speaker 1: this order at this point? What does he do? Kidnap,
Speaker 1: break into a prison in El Salvador. Nothing he can do.
Speaker 1: It's amazing to me how all the issues and by
Speaker 1: the way, all the women that have been raped, the
Speaker 1: young men and women that are dead from fentanyl traffic
Speaker 1: by MS thirteen, all the burglaries, all their homes broken
Speaker 1: into the thousands of crimes committed every few days by
Speaker 1: MS thirteen and TDA members. That's not important to CNN.
Speaker 1: What's important is to politically cut the throat of Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: and they make him look as if he doesn't care
Speaker 1: about immigrant rights, doesn't care about the rule of law.
Speaker 1: So he has complied with what the Supreme Court has
Speaker 1: said he should do. That's not me saying it, it's
Speaker 1: Paula Reid of CNN. He has complied. He's not ignoring
Speaker 1: a Supreme Court order. He's waiting for the next order
Speaker 1: to be litigated. Then he said repeatedly, when the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court rules, I will comply. At this point point, one
Speaker 1: little irrelevant left wing federal District Court judge named Boseburg
Speaker 1: about an hour ago held the Trump administration in contempt. Okay,
Speaker 1: now what well, it's got to go back up to
Speaker 1: the US Supreme Court. And who conducts American foreign policy?
Speaker 1: Is it a relatively irrelevant federal district court judge or
Speaker 1: is it the duly elected president of the United States.
Speaker 1: And by the way, Harry Inton, the chronicle of events
Speaker 1: for CNN, said this morning that if the election were
Speaker 1: held today between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, that Trump
Speaker 1: would win fifty two to thirty eight. And that is
Speaker 1: popularity is similar to what it was in November of
Speaker 1: last year. But you watch the media, if you only
Speaker 1: get your information from CNN, MSNBC, from newspapers, some liberal websites,
Speaker 1: do you think that the country is in complete turmoil
Speaker 1: over this Garcia character, this gang banger? Are you your
Speaker 1: life affected by this? I don't think so. When your
Speaker 1: ordered out of the country, get the hell out of
Speaker 1: the country and don't come here in the first place illegally.
Speaker 1: How many crimes did he commit for the last fourteen
Speaker 1: years that he's resided in this country. I have no idea,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure there are many. As an MS thirteen
Speaker 1: gang member, he did a lot of bad stuff, And
Speaker 1: of course the argument is, well, he's not been convicted
Speaker 1: of anything yet yet. But when courts rule, leave the
Speaker 1: country you're a member of MS thirteen, it's a terrorist organization.
Speaker 1: Leave the United States of America and go back home,
Speaker 1: which he could have done on his own. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he would have been apprehended in Nel Salvador,
Speaker 1: probably at some point. They're pretty rough on gang members
Speaker 1: down there now. But nonetheless, he had the option to leave,
Speaker 1: and he failed to leave. Now he's paying the price.
Speaker 1: Let's continue with more after one o'clock today, we'll be
Speaker 1: Sheriff Chermaine McGuffey about the efforts and Columbus to take
Speaker 1: away the people's right to vote for county offices, beginning
Speaker 1: with the coroner, and then later on we've scheduled at
Speaker 1: two of five the man who makes that decision more
Speaker 1: or less. Speaker mesed our speaker Matt Huffman, who spent
Speaker 1: many years as controlling the State Senate. He now controls
Speaker 1: the House of Representatives. When the governor does something he
Speaker 1: didn't like, he's got the votes to overrule the governor.
Speaker 1: And so he said he's going to join us at
Speaker 1: two of five today and anticipate having him here. By
Speaker 1: the way, his deep connections to the people of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: He's from Allen County, the home of the A one
Speaker 1: A one tank and dearly departed Leonard Rush, the great
Speaker 1: coach of liem of Senior, where I buy qpie Burgers
Speaker 1: now and then for the football players. But he spent
Speaker 1: three or four years in Cincinnati UC Law School. So
Speaker 1: let's continue with more twelve fifty six, the home of
Speaker 1: your Reds and the station standing for the rule of law.
Speaker 1: Once again, Donald Trump is not ignoring a Supreme Court order.
Speaker 1: On news radio seven hundred, w oughto be. Let's continue now,
Speaker 1: Bill cunning in the Great America, of course, Reds Baseball
Speaker 1: kicks off for not about five forty. First pitch about
Speaker 1: six forty. The Reds open up two and six, and
Speaker 1: since then they are seven and two, almost unbeatable. And
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens down the road. But until then,
Speaker 1: there's been a proposal out of Columbus put into a
Speaker 1: bill of the House of Representatives that many knew little
Speaker 1: or nothing about, and that is to eliminate the corner's
Speaker 1: position in each county. And that means the elected corner
Speaker 1: here in Hamley County, as you may know, is doctor
Speaker 1: Lasmi Somarco, who's recognized around the world is perhaps the
Speaker 1: best medical examiner and the corner not just in Ohio
Speaker 1: or in the region, but rather in the entire nation,
Speaker 1: in the world, because she is a great staff, brand
Speaker 1: new building, great equipment. In fact, whether it's Northern Kentucky, Indiana,
Speaker 1: or Ohio. Whenever there's an issue about an autopsy or
Speaker 1: a present preservation of tissue, whatever it might be, to
Speaker 1: soft crime, doctor Smarker's on speed dial all around the
Speaker 1: region to assist her. And of course the lawmakers in
Speaker 1: Columbus may not feel that way. And about an hour
Speaker 1: we're going to have Speaker of the House, Matt Huffman
Speaker 1: is scheduled scheduled to be here to talk about his
Speaker 1: proposal to eliminate the county corners and many to follow.
Speaker 1: Talk to other Republicans in Columbus and they're telling me
Speaker 1: that the long term goal will be to get rid
Speaker 1: of the elections for the Sheriff, the corner, the auditor,
Speaker 1: the treasurer of the Clerk of Courts and more and
Speaker 1: have like county government in charge and appointing people joining
Speaker 1: you and I now as Sheriff. Charmaine McGuffey, the elected
Speaker 1: Sheriff of Hamley county's been there as sheriff about five
Speaker 1: about five years, and she's been working in the Sheriff's
Speaker 1: office about thirty five years in Charmaine McGuffey, Sheriff, Welcome
Speaker 1: again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And before we talk
Speaker 1: about the Corner, I want to let the American people
Speaker 1: know that you started off in the old Workhouse, which
Speaker 1: was a Civil War facility, as a lowly coo correction
Speaker 1: officer that didn't have running water, didn't have toilets. And
Speaker 1: I can imagine a woman about thirty thirty five years
Speaker 1: ago in the workhouse being the elected if somebody had
Speaker 1: tapped you in the shoulder when you're working the graveyard
Speaker 1: shift and these guys are yelling and screaming at you
Speaker 1: at times throwing inappropriate object if someone said to you,
Speaker 1: you know, Charmaine, one day you're going to be the
Speaker 1: elected sheriff of ham in the county. Would you have
Speaker 1: believed it?
Speaker 7: Oh, I absolutely would have said they were crazy.
Speaker 1: Right, Honestly, tell me, tell me why you wanted to
Speaker 1: get into law enforcement at all. Go back in time
Speaker 1: a little bit and tell me why Charmaine McGuffey, female
Speaker 1: haw Many County sheriff elected. And by the way, you
Speaker 1: got more votes in the last election than any official
Speaker 1: in Hamona County, even more than Denise Treehouse. I think
Speaker 1: I want to bet on that. But nonetheless, tell me
Speaker 1: why you decide to get a law.
Speaker 7: Enforcement Well, first of all, thanks Bill for having me on.
Speaker 7: And you know, I grew up in at risk neighborhood,
Speaker 7: and I grew up right up here in Price Hill,
Speaker 7: and and you know, a lot of times the kids
Speaker 7: in the neighborhood we were left to our own devices
Speaker 7: because our parents worked or you know, or were absent
Speaker 7: quite frankly. And you know, I learned pretty quickly as
Speaker 7: a young girl that when you run around in a
Speaker 7: group of kids, there's always somebody in charge, right, and
Speaker 7: who that somebody is of that group that's in charge.
Speaker 7: You're either going to have a good day or you
Speaker 7: are going to have a bad day. And I decided
Speaker 7: I wanted to have good days and I don't want
Speaker 7: to have bad days. So I decided, you know what,
Speaker 7: I need to be the person in charge because then
Speaker 7: I'm in charge of my day and I have good days.
Speaker 7: So I know that, you know, simplifying it quite a bit,
Speaker 7: but that's exactly why I went into law enforcement, because
Speaker 7: I said, you know what, I want to help other
Speaker 7: people have good days. I want to help other people
Speaker 7: make good decisions and help other people with their lives
Speaker 7: because quite frankly, I grew up knowing a lot of
Speaker 7: people that struggled, a lot of kids that struggled, adults, etc.
Speaker 7: And we have made it better. Our criminal justice system
Speaker 7: is working. Wow, it's working so well. We're embracing reform
Speaker 7: and we're making it better.
Speaker 1: As far as the only women women did not get
Speaker 1: into law enforcement thirty thirty five years ago, well were you?
Speaker 1: You and Sean Donovan, chief deputy, were kind of working
Speaker 1: in the workhouse, and now you have a great relationship
Speaker 1: with him. Side least the sheriff Hamliny County endorse you
Speaker 1: for sheriff, said Sean Donovan. Did how many other women
Speaker 1: were in law enforcement when you got in?
Speaker 7: Oh, there was no one really, because the rule up
Speaker 7: until like early nineteen eighties was women couldn't even apply
Speaker 7: to be a police officer. I mean you couldn't. You
Speaker 7: were not allowed to be in a patrol car as
Speaker 7: a police officer doing those things. And you know, and
Speaker 7: I was told that. I was told that when I
Speaker 7: was fourteen by my uncle, who happened to be a
Speaker 7: Cincinnati police officer, told me, hey, forget that dream, because
Speaker 7: it ain't happening. I said, well, you know what, I'm
Speaker 7: going to make it happen. That's a pledge I made
Speaker 7: to myself. And so when I came on when that
Speaker 7: law changed, I came on in that first wave of women. Really,
Speaker 7: there were a lot of us across the United States
Speaker 7: who said and when I say a lot of us,
Speaker 7: I mean there was a handful here in this community,
Speaker 7: a handful in some other community. There weren't that many
Speaker 7: of us, but we all kind of we we took
Speaker 7: that first wave out and said, hey, guess what we're here.
Speaker 1: And the rest is history. Let's talk about a proposal
Speaker 1: out of Columbus. And I don't think I think I
Speaker 1: know your answer, But I haven't spoken to Jonesy, who's
Speaker 1: a Richard K. Jones, a friend of yours, and unfortunately
Speaker 1: he endorsed you, because that could do I could do
Speaker 1: real harm in Hamlin County. But nonetheless, there's a proposal
Speaker 1: in Columbus that passed the Ohio House to get rid
Speaker 1: of the coroner's office and call it a medical examiner
Speaker 1: appointed by the commissioners. How do you respond to that?
Speaker 1: As the elected sheriff of Hamley County.
Speaker 8: I'm absolutely alarmed by it.
Speaker 7: I absolutely very much disagree with it. I think that
Speaker 7: every Republican, Democrat, independent voter should be saying to themselves
Speaker 7: and others, wait a minute, let's put the brakes on this.
Speaker 7: What is this all about? Because this is not a
Speaker 7: good move for any elected official. If obviously we want,
Speaker 7: we strive to get elected. But the point is in
Speaker 7: electing us, you're appealing to the people who.
Speaker 2: Are your boss.
Speaker 7: Right, So the people are my boss, and I hear
Speaker 7: from them, and I respond and so forth. And it
Speaker 7: makes me a better sheriff. If I only have one
Speaker 7: person who's appointing me, Guess who I owe the favor to?
Speaker 2: All right, I owe.
Speaker 7: The favor to that person. And when I say favor,
Speaker 7: I mean favor because then when the person who appointed
Speaker 7: you says, hey, I want you to tip the scale
Speaker 7: this way or I want you to do this that way,
Speaker 7: you know, you really have very little choice and they
Speaker 7: have the higher fire ability over you. And particularly for
Speaker 7: these law enforcement in the corner is very very attached
Speaker 7: to law enforcement, as are all elected officials.
Speaker 8: Law enforcement in.
Speaker 7: Our region depends on independent people, you know, having a
Speaker 7: checks and balance with each other so that we're not
Speaker 7: putting our finger on the scale and the public does
Speaker 7: know the facts and the truth because they elected us
Speaker 7: and we report to them.
Speaker 1: In fact, there's a movement of foot like in the
Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati, for example, there's a police chief Fiji
Speaker 1: who's like in a sense like the sheriff. They also
Speaker 1: have a division and Cincinnati about roads and that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. They want to have a metro government idea,
Speaker 1: and that is the corner would be or even the sheriff.
Speaker 1: After your term expires, that would kick in that the
Speaker 1: Hammon County Commission, I guess the county administrator well would
Speaker 1: decide who's who's the sheriff, call them the constable, the
Speaker 1: chief law or whatever, and the prosecutor and all this
Speaker 1: stuff and you make a great point that a coroner
Speaker 1: told me that she gets pressure now and then to
Speaker 1: come up with a certain result on an autopsy. And
Speaker 1: she says, I own allegiance to the law and to
Speaker 1: the people. But if you owe allegiance to the county
Speaker 1: administrator who's calling you to say, hey, I want you
Speaker 1: to do a certain thing, you kind of feel like
Speaker 1: you got to do it. So if the county administrator
Speaker 1: or someone in authority would call Sheriff Charmaine mcguffy and say, Sheriff,
Speaker 1: I you know, I'd like you to do something, and
Speaker 1: if you were appointed by that person, you might look
Speaker 1: at it differently than if you're elected. Correct.
Speaker 7: Oh, and let's factor in the fact that you know,
Speaker 7: as the person who is elected, I also bring people
Speaker 7: into the office, as does doctor Somarco. Right, she is
Speaker 7: going to hire the most qualified, you know, forensic scientists,
Speaker 7: trace evidence, you know, scientists, and people who really can
Speaker 7: move the mark for her and make her what she
Speaker 7: is today, which is nationally recognized. I mean I want
Speaker 7: people to evaluate how important that is. I mean, you know,
Speaker 7: I serve on different committees, task force and so forth,
Speaker 7: and I do so because the people have knocked on
Speaker 7: my door and said hey, we need you there. Right
Speaker 7: If they do that, and I'm an appointed person, I
Speaker 7: can say, nah, no, I don't want to be there
Speaker 7: for domestic violence. I don't want to be there for
Speaker 7: organized crime. I don't feel like doing that. And I
Speaker 7: got to tell you, I've spent forty years in this business,
Speaker 7: and I honestly have seen you know, people that are
Speaker 7: appointed to positions just say no, I don't want to
Speaker 7: do that. And we all know, wait a minute, that
Speaker 7: does not push public safety forward, and it certainly doesn't
Speaker 7: give the public, you know, a say. And as I said,
Speaker 7: it's very very alarming because once they do this with
Speaker 7: the corner, just as you said, Bill, it's going to
Speaker 7: go trickle right down to every elected official. And I
Speaker 7: don't care what side of the aisle you're on. Listen,
Speaker 7: you want a voice in your government, you do. And
Speaker 7: I get it that this is a democratic county for
Speaker 7: the most part. But let me tell you. When I campaigned,
Speaker 7: I had to campaign to Republicans, I had to go
Speaker 7: to Independence, I had to go across the aisle, and
Speaker 7: they had significant questions and they vetted me. I mean,
Speaker 7: the people that did vote for me from that weren't Democrats.
Speaker 7: I had to answer to them, and I'm happy to
Speaker 7: and I'm still answering to people. If I was appointed,
Speaker 7: I wouldn't have to do that.
Speaker 1: You know, not too many employees of city council or
Speaker 1: the city administrator is attending community meetings because they have
Speaker 1: things to do at night. And when you campaigned for office,
Speaker 1: you listen to what people have to say. And I
Speaker 1: thought of, you know, you know my conservative party. I'm conservative,
Speaker 1: not necessarily Republican, and we're the ones that I ought
Speaker 1: to care about the people's right to vote. Now, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, the right to vote is kind of important,
Speaker 1: and I heard that more from the left and the
Speaker 1: Democrats and the right and the Republicans. But to take
Speaker 1: away the people's right to vote on county offices that
Speaker 1: directly control aspects of your life, I think it's the
Speaker 1: wrong path to take. Secondly, has our corner because of
Speaker 1: her competency and her staff, the fact she's elected to
Speaker 1: meet the voters. Has she done things with the sheriff's
Speaker 1: office that you find remarkabill be good about what she's done?
Speaker 7: Oh, absolutely, beyond the fact that she has invited law
Speaker 7: enforcement into her facility, which is a fabulous facility that
Speaker 7: was beyond needed. Right, we go up there, all of
Speaker 7: us chiefs of police, everybody we meet in her facility,
Speaker 7: all of us have a direct line to her phone
Speaker 7: so that we can ask questions. And I'll tell you
Speaker 7: a quick little story. I had a young man who
Speaker 7: was a recruit who died and nobody could figure it out.
Speaker 7: He was running the mile and a half. The young
Speaker 7: man was in his early thirties, he was in excellent condition,
Speaker 7: excellent shape, and he died running the mile and a half.
Speaker 7: And you know, it was unbelievable, just the fact that
Speaker 7: it happened in the family and just tragic. And the
Speaker 7: corner's office here, doctor Somarco, because nobody the hospital, there
Speaker 7: were so many people that couldn't understand why did this
Speaker 7: man die? And doctor Somarco found it out. She put
Speaker 7: her finger on it.
Speaker 2: She said it's this.
Speaker 7: She got her scientists involved, and now we are pushing
Speaker 7: out initiatives to prevent this kind of death. And our
Speaker 7: police officer academies are around the state and the nation.
Speaker 7: So you talk about the importance of having a pro
Speaker 7: in that position, it can't be understated.
Speaker 1: And she told me and I'm going to get her
Speaker 1: on at some point in the future. That at times
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen a lot, but she gets pressure to
Speaker 1: have a ruling, whether it's suicide, homicide, accidental, whatever. And
Speaker 1: more than one she's gotten calls from important people to saying,
Speaker 1: you know, it would help us a little bit more
Speaker 1: if you could do this, Why don't you, Why don't
Speaker 1: you do that? And and she made the point, Look,
Speaker 1: I own allegiance to people that put me here to
Speaker 1: come the best independent objective finding that I can. And
Speaker 1: if she was unknown, except I can't name many of
Speaker 1: the medical people pointed by the city of Cincinnatia. I'm
Speaker 1: sure they're doing the best of what they got. But
Speaker 1: I know the name Smarco because she's the one elected
Speaker 1: by I voted for even if she run against the Republic,
Speaker 1: and I vote for her as I voted for you.
Speaker 1: And because it's not about politics, it's about a specific job.
Speaker 1: And if the allegiance is owed to the voter, that's
Speaker 1: different than the allegiance to the appointing authority. And this
Speaker 1: thing is the movement. I look across the nation. My
Speaker 1: Republican friends in Columbus tell me this is the movement
Speaker 1: of foot to have reform to stream you know, you
Speaker 1: kind of use these big words dreamline government. It's about reforming.
Speaker 1: Who's against dreamline guy? I want to I want to
Speaker 1: streamline government. I like reform here and there, but not
Speaker 1: this reform. And so if it gets to the day
Speaker 1: that you are appointed or someone like you's appointed, is
Speaker 1: that the day you say goodbye.
Speaker 8: Well, I'm going to fight.
Speaker 7: I'm going to fight and fight and fight so that
Speaker 7: that day does not happen. That I can tell you,
Speaker 7: and I will tell you this. When you're talking about
Speaker 7: reforms and cutting government, that exactly That's exactly what we've
Speaker 7: been doing. I've been on the forefront of these reforms,
Speaker 7: these criminal justice reforms. And you know who's been at
Speaker 7: my advisory table. Republicans, Conservatives, independents, people have been at
Speaker 7: that advisory table. And we have saved money. We are
Speaker 7: driving crime down, We're making the county safer. And I
Speaker 7: am doing that because I answer to the public. And
Speaker 7: when we come to the question of the corner and
Speaker 7: how important her rulings are, let's just all consider crime
Speaker 7: for just a moment here, right, Because the way that
Speaker 7: corner rules and the facts that she finds out because
Speaker 7: she does just the facts is going to affect criminal
Speaker 7: criminal trials, whether someone's found guilty or not guilty, or
Speaker 7: what charge they have that should be a higher charge
Speaker 7: versus a lower charge. I mean, these are things that
Speaker 7: the corner tips the scale on that because of her
Speaker 7: independent review. If you want true justice because somebody has
Speaker 7: assaulted you, somebody has killed a relative of yours, somebody
Speaker 7: has murdered someone who you dearly love and care about,
Speaker 7: you want an independent corner review. You don't want somebody
Speaker 7: who can call a phone number and say, hey, you
Speaker 7: owe me a favor. Let's make this look like this.
Speaker 7: And that is incredibly important. And I tell you there's
Speaker 7: hundreds hundreds of trials that involve just these kinds of issues.
Speaker 1: And lastly, when you took over, among other reasons, Simon,
Speaker 1: Lisa endorsed you a Sean Donovan and the first thing
Speaker 1: you did was have a balanced budget. In other words,
Speaker 1: you were told you can't balance the budget. We got
Speaker 1: problems here. What did you do your first year, year
Speaker 1: or two in office?
Speaker 7: The first thing I did is call the staff together
Speaker 7: and I said, we have to balance the budget. And
Speaker 7: my fiscal manager, by the way, said, I don't think
Speaker 7: we can do it. I said, work as hard as
Speaker 7: you can to get as close as you can. And
Speaker 7: we balanced that budget first year, second year, third and forth.
Speaker 7: And you know, nobody appointed me to do that. The
Speaker 7: citizens of Hamilton County said this is what we demand,
Speaker 7: and that is what I responded to.
Speaker 1: Well, let's see what happens in about an hour of
Speaker 1: Matt Huffman's here. I think he's going to say that
Speaker 1: you know that they passed it in the House. Now
Speaker 1: it's up to the Senate and then there's going to
Speaker 1: be get together with the Senator, with with the Governor.
Speaker 1: I had him on yesterday and by the way, the
Speaker 1: governor does not think the county corners offices or county
Speaker 1: offices should be obliterated the governor, but if he has
Speaker 1: a line on and veto, it could be overcome. But
Speaker 1: it's all going to be determined in the next four
Speaker 1: to six weeks. So let's see what happens. But once again,
Speaker 1: Sheriff Charmaine mcuffey, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham
Speaker 1: showing good luck and keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker 7: Thank you, Bill, You're a great American.
Speaker 1: God bless America. Thank you, sir. Let's continue with more
Speaker 1: news coming up next plus Reds Baseball at five forty tonight,
Speaker 1: plus after two o'clock today, we've scheduled to Speaker of
Speaker 1: the House Matt Huffman, all in News Radio seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: At some point, the foolishness has got to stop.
Speaker 6: Oh hello, quiet, and I'm scos.
Speaker 1: I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 6: Segment.
Speaker 1: You laughed as snickered at me. Why when I said
Speaker 1: the Reds who were two and six are going to
Speaker 1: maybe not lose a.
Speaker 9: Game, you were all over what you wanted to get.
Speaker 9: Francona wanted to get.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't.
Speaker 9: Matt McClean, Austin has Who's who is that? Who is
Speaker 9: that guy? Who's that guy? Seven to two?
Speaker 1: Now defeated, untied, unscored on.
Speaker 9: Yeah, first time since May of last year. They're over
Speaker 9: five hundred. The challenge there a game and a half
Speaker 9: out of first place. Say that again, a game and
Speaker 9: a half out at first place. On Wednesday, April the sixteen.
Speaker 1: There's been one time in eleven seasons the Reds have
Speaker 1: had a winning record on May first once? Will this
Speaker 1: be twice? If it is.
Speaker 2: Put?
Speaker 1: The playoff tickets on sale playoffs, Tell the playoffs. Seg
Speaker 1: We have a special venditor, a visitor Frank Ziebel of
Speaker 1: a c R.
Speaker 9: Gunny Pools and spas well. You know what that means.
Speaker 9: You got to play a song. He's got the walk
Speaker 9: up here, you got the song.
Speaker 1: But I kind of love what you're doing with doggies
Speaker 1: because Schnorf Peanut had. Of course we did that, and
Speaker 1: you had little Rainy. You had things. And it's one
Speaker 1: when you kept what name your dog? Segment Emma and Zoobie,
Speaker 1: tell here we go, here we go. Tell me how
Speaker 1: the first time you got your president dog, you went
Speaker 1: through a living hell. Doctor Peter Hill took carry and
Speaker 1: then you went through it and then you found another dog.
Speaker 6: Explained that story.
Speaker 1: If a man loves dogs, he's a good man.
Speaker 5: Bill.
Speaker 6: Right now, we're running a new special.
Speaker 10: We've partnered up with Adopt a Pet, Adopt the Pit.
Speaker 10: Excuse me, Adopt the Pit Rescue. It's an all breed
Speaker 10: dog rescue comprised of all volunteers. All you gotta do
Speaker 10: is rescue a dog. They're in need. These dogs are
Speaker 10: overcrowded from overcrowded shelters and they need a new home.
Speaker 10: Rescue one of these dogs and get seventy five hundred
Speaker 10: dollars off a gunnight swimming pool and we'll buy the
Speaker 10: food for the first six months.
Speaker 1: And because of your love for dogs, especially adopted dogs.
Speaker 10: Save the dogs. These dogs are more important than most
Speaker 10: people I meet. Pardon the expression, well.
Speaker 1: A good dog. Dogs are better than human beings. I've
Speaker 1: always said that, would.
Speaker 6: I agree one hundred percent.
Speaker 10: I've got a dog by the name of Raine, and
Speaker 10: we saved her during the hurricane in South Carolina.
Speaker 6: She's a fan tastic dog.
Speaker 1: You've gone the story of how you found rain or
Speaker 1: Rainy found you, because I know in my case, magazine
Speaker 1: found me. Came into the garage.
Speaker 6: It's crazy.
Speaker 10: I was sitting at my desk at five thirty in
Speaker 10: the morning in Cincinnati and we have a ring camera
Speaker 10: on the front door at our home in Hilton Head,
Speaker 10: And next thing I know, I get a post anybody
Speaker 10: does this dog belong to anybody? And there's Rainy sitting
Speaker 10: at a front door. We got fifteen inches of rain
Speaker 10: in two days and forty fifty mile an hour winds.
Speaker 10: So I text back, I said, Hey, if nobody, if
Speaker 10: nobody claims that dog, I'll save the dog.
Speaker 1: Describe Rainy. What is Rainy?
Speaker 6: A mixed rain She's a mixed breed, but she's a
Speaker 6: little terrier.
Speaker 10: Weighs twenty twenty pounds, twenty two pounds.
Speaker 1: Male or female? Female, female. In trouble.
Speaker 10: She was in trouble. She had an intestinal infection. She
Speaker 10: was she had heartworm. She spent the first two days
Speaker 10: at an urgent care. She spent eight days at at
Speaker 10: a veterinary clinic chap.
Speaker 1: She was outside.
Speaker 6: Mainly she was outside. She was a mess.
Speaker 10: Every time the wind blows ten miles an hour, she
Speaker 10: scared the death of wind.
Speaker 1: Where'd your dogs come from? A shelter? Or where Emma
Speaker 1: came from?
Speaker 9: My step daughter Willie My they called one day from well,
Speaker 9: I mean they they found her, found her and said,
Speaker 9: we have a new addition to the family. I thought, uh,
Speaker 9: Emma male female, They go female, I go not transgender
Speaker 9: or something like that.
Speaker 1: It was Emma.
Speaker 9: And then uh, then Rachel got Zuomi found him in
Speaker 9: along the road in Florida.
Speaker 1: Nothing better tell me that Rainy nurse back to health.
Speaker 6: Nurse back to health.
Speaker 10: She's in South Carolina as we speak with my wife, Elizabeth, and.
Speaker 1: The lovely Elizabeth. It used to be a manager for
Speaker 1: Macho Man. Is that the same Elizabeth. That's the same
Speaker 1: Elizabeth years later. And so because of your love for dogs,
Speaker 1: we hooked up with what is the web is Adopted Adopted.
Speaker 6: Pets, Adopt the pitt. But it's for all breeds.
Speaker 10: Adopted Adopted Pitt Rescue UH Upper aided by a lovely lady.
Speaker 10: She's an attorney by the name of Channing. Her and
Speaker 10: her husband. Her husband's a dentist, lawyers and they they
Speaker 10: they do a great job saving dogs.
Speaker 6: And these dogs need help.
Speaker 10: You know, most people won't help themselves, but these dogs
Speaker 10: need help. And we we we partnered with them, and
Speaker 10: we're going to give seventy five hundred dollars off to
Speaker 10: anybody that will rescue a dog that wants a gun.
Speaker 6: I eat pool rescue.
Speaker 10: The dog will build the pool, the kids and the
Speaker 10: dog will now have a pool to swim in.
Speaker 1: Wonderful.
Speaker 6: It's a right there.
Speaker 1: Curse the darkness. You light a candle. Absolutely, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: my boy, and I am gonna go down to the
Speaker 1: dog pound. Forget who was the head of the dog
Speaker 1: pound long time, or forget his name, called him? I
Speaker 1: know who you're talking about. Yeah, go down there. We
Speaker 1: go through a bunch of cages. Evan said, there she
Speaker 1: had a little Snorfy named after the law firm of Schnorf,
Speaker 1: Schnorff and Snorf. I practiced law with David Snorf Senior
Speaker 1: and Junior and Brandon Schnorf, Snorff and Snorf. It's truth.
Speaker 6: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: No, I'm not. Why are you laughing? Snorf Snorf. I
Speaker 1: love it, And so I called the dog Snorf. And
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, one two years later, here
Speaker 1: comes little Mazine is hiding in the garage, left the
Speaker 1: garage open all night. This dog is shaken behind the
Speaker 1: ladder and Camargo woods and I want to take her
Speaker 1: to the pound. Penny got her out better other than
Speaker 1: I got her going. By the time I got home,
Speaker 1: I couldn't let her go. And then peanut heead shows up.
Speaker 1: What do you do with the peanut head? The peanut
Speaker 1: head showed up on the back porch. Now I got
Speaker 1: peanut head. Then fur ball came. The cat shows up
Speaker 1: on the front porch. I called the cat the fur ball,
Speaker 1: and then Hunter, another cat came. I went through five
Speaker 1: and now I'm down to zero, which is the way
Speaker 1: I like it, because you can't. It's hard to hip.
Speaker 1: But I would never get a dog unless it was
Speaker 1: the rescue dog.
Speaker 10: Well, and we're going to bring one to you, Bill,
Speaker 10: and we're going to build a small pool in your
Speaker 10: backyard for you and the judge.
Speaker 1: What I want to do is get a flying pig
Speaker 1: back there. And also, mister big boy, Penny says, if
Speaker 1: mister big boy shows up in the front lawn eight
Speaker 1: foot high, mister big boy rotating, She's out of there.
Speaker 1: She says, she's gone.
Speaker 6: What about Piper, your son's dog, Piper? I love Piper's
Speaker 6: doing good.
Speaker 1: Piper's doing good thanks to dog. Urs back to health.
Speaker 6: That's goodness.
Speaker 1: Son of the family goes away, drops off the Piper.
Speaker 1: Within two days, Pipers down, I call you, who do
Speaker 1: you use? Go to doctor Peter Hill and Blue Ash Road.
Speaker 1: Within two days the dog he had a pancreat titus
Speaker 1: and something else. Within two days tails wagon. I did
Speaker 1: not want to happen on my watch, to have a
Speaker 1: little Piper have a bit on my watch. That would
Speaker 1: be a negative.
Speaker 6: Correct, that's correct. Piper's a good dog.
Speaker 1: Good dog segment. Give me some sports. If you don't mind,
Speaker 1: will leave the Stuote reporters of pro service.
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Speaker 9: Bryce Miller up against Nick Martinez tonight, Willie is the
Speaker 9: Reds look to make it two in a row over
Speaker 9: those Seattle Mariners.
Speaker 1: You laughed at me, seg Man, You snicker.
Speaker 9: Five forty Sports Talk RNL Carriers, Insight Pitch, Kelsey, Chevrolet
Speaker 9: Extra Inning Show after the game at the Reds of
Speaker 9: one four in a row, as people know, six and
Speaker 9: the last seven, nine and eight on the season, first
Speaker 9: time since May one of last year. Good that they
Speaker 9: are over five hundred. Austin Hayes became just the third
Speaker 9: Red since nineteen twenty. Who Austin Hayes?
Speaker 1: Who was president of nineteen twenty?
Speaker 6: That's Hoover, You answer that, Hoover?
Speaker 1: No leive me a hint. Well, his wife was named Edith,
Speaker 1: right after the Archie Bunker. No One, Archie Bunker Woodrow Wilson,
Speaker 1: You fool Archie Bunker. I don't know well. His wife
Speaker 1: was Edith.
Speaker 9: He became just the third Red since in nineteen twenty,
Speaker 9: I have four plus RBIs in his team debut, he
Speaker 9: joins Ryan Lavarney, EH Lavarnway.
Speaker 6: Eh.
Speaker 9: Ryan Lavarnway was six and twenty nineteen. I don't remember
Speaker 9: him at all?
Speaker 6: Do you say it?
Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, twenty ninety, nineteen, nineteen nineteen, right, twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: Mike Mustakas remember him? He was a bust, he had
Speaker 1: four in twenty twenty he was complete. And you've been
Speaker 1: all over the Reds Bullpennant Right now, it's fifth best
Speaker 1: in the majors with a two point nine to six ERA.
Speaker 1: Are you done yet? You've been done for years.
Speaker 9: Bengals update brought to you by Good Spirits at Party
Speaker 9: Town thirteen convenient locations in northern Kentucky. The Bengals have
Speaker 9: brought back free agent quarterback Logan Woodside on a one
Speaker 9: year contract.
Speaker 1: What was nav of a guy in twenty nineteen that
Speaker 1: at six harby Ice Ryan Lavarnway. Ever hear him? Frank No,
Speaker 1: never heard of him.
Speaker 9: College football, Detroit, Michigan native Jeremiah Gray is committed to
Speaker 9: the play football for the Bearcats six foot seven defensive
Speaker 9: lineman six foots out of play basketball. I was going
Speaker 9: to say, speaking up basketball, Chris Mack. It's to Charleston Land,
Speaker 9: Cincinnati Bearcats transfer guard to Connor Hickman.
Speaker 1: Really is.
Speaker 9: He had a foot injury, limited time with the Bearcats,
Speaker 9: but another Cat is moving on and.
Speaker 1: Richard Patino of Xavier has the tenth most money to
Speaker 1: spend in nil Xavier is rich because of alumnus donating
Speaker 1: money segment? Are you donating money to NKU?
Speaker 9: Former Bearcats guard to Dan Skillings Junior? Are you giving
Speaker 9: money to Xavier?
Speaker 1: I can't say.
Speaker 9: Can't say either. Dan Skillings Junior is staying in the
Speaker 9: Big twelve. He's going to be playing the Bearcats. Dan
Speaker 9: Skillings Junior went to Baylor helm of the Bears. Let's
Speaker 9: see former Miami and Xavier guard Camkraft is going to
Speaker 9: play his college basketball at Georgia Tech. The Ramblin wreck
Speaker 9: is here related to John Craft? No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: How do you know? I'm just guessing and one of themok,
Speaker 1: like you do one little fact toys segment?
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: Between now and May twentieth, the Reds will not play
Speaker 1: a team with a winning record correct, So at some
Speaker 1: point goofy.
Speaker 9: This next road trip is is are they going next Baltimore,
Speaker 9: Miami and then Colorado? So they could be there. There's
Speaker 9: the first trip was Milwaukee to San Francisco. This is Baltimore, Miami, Colorado,
Speaker 9: so it could be eighty five and ninety degrees in Miami.
Speaker 9: Then then they go to twenty degrees and snowing in Denver.
Speaker 9: And by the way, Colorado stinks. Are you where that? Yes,
Speaker 9: they do, so does the Avalanche. By the way, they
Speaker 9: stink too, Yeah they did there.
Speaker 6: I think they have a pool at the stadium though
Speaker 6: in Colorado.
Speaker 1: Did you put that in frank Zia Belta ice hockey rink,
Speaker 1: then you can put it in. Yeah, it's in the
Speaker 1: right center field, right center fore that in there. She said,
Speaker 1: do it maybe a belly flop like John Belushi. Yeah,
Speaker 1: put one of those at the GABP or something something
Speaker 1: ACR highpool outside of Great inside Great American ball Way
Speaker 1: swim this year. Yeah.
Speaker 10: I'm not sure Phil wants a pool in the Great
Speaker 10: American Ballpark, but we've talked about it.
Speaker 1: Phil Castelini may approved. What about Bengal, He might approved
Speaker 1: a pool. Wouldn't that be something in the summertime, would
Speaker 1: be something put what a TQL stadium? Every time they score,
Speaker 1: you jump in the pool.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: Let's talk to him, Talk to He's got plenty of
Speaker 1: room there. Next door they had that big hotel and
Speaker 1: convention center going like crazy. By the way, we have
Speaker 1: the Speaker of the House coming up in about fifteen minutes,
Speaker 1: so segment get ready for him. Mike Johnson, No, oh, Ohio,
Speaker 1: Speaker of the House. What's his name? I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you you don't know. I'm not gonna tell you. I
Speaker 1: don't know who. No idea, Mike Johnson ran the Olympics?
Speaker 1: Is that the same guy from Atlanta.
Speaker 9: That's the Speaker of the House for the United States?
Speaker 1: Yeah, how did? I don't think so? His name is
Speaker 1: Mike Johnson, though, isn't it. I think so. You didn't
Speaker 1: think I knew that?
Speaker 2: Did you?
Speaker 1: You don't know very much. I'll try you one more time.
Speaker 1: Who didn't give me this president? Who was president in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen? That was Donald Trump?
Speaker 2: What it?
Speaker 1: Yep? You're right. I hate to tell you that, Steve,
Speaker 1: You're right, real good job once again. Frank Zibel locator
Speaker 1: adopt a pit Rescue dot org. And it's any breed,
Speaker 1: any breed. Some people don't like pitbulls, save the dogs.
Speaker 1: Some people love them. But you know, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: it is. I mean, if Seg was in a dog
Speaker 1: pound and somebody go to take a pet home, would
Speaker 1: they take home Seg? Do you think I think they
Speaker 1: would Seg? What do you think if you're behind bars
Speaker 1: you got to adopt a Seg? Would that be you?
Speaker 1: I got a big enough rear end and I could,
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Speaker 10: All breeds, all kinds of dogs. Over two hundred dogs too,
Speaker 10: they have to how many dogs they have? Over two
Speaker 10: hundred dogs, two hundred dogs. They need your help. Got
Speaker 10: to get them out of there, got to get him
Speaker 10: out of there. I'm gonna keep this for a while
Speaker 10: with your permission, Yes, sir, I'll do it. Adopt a
Speaker 10: dog and six.
Speaker 1: Months of free food. Right kind of food too, that's right.
Speaker 1: The best Segon feeds. You know, the dog's off the table,
Speaker 1: and you can't do that. You gotta have the right
Speaker 1: kind of dog food, right segive pork chops and bones.
Speaker 1: He gives them hot fud Sundays. You can't do that.
Speaker 9: Sometimes Sometimes Frank's eyebels gone for better see it?
Speaker 1: And coming up next, we think we have the speaker
Speaker 1: of the House. I'm gonna call him. Name is Matt
Speaker 1: Huffman in Columbus. He's got more power than the governor.
Speaker 1: He thinks. We'll see what happens. Segment get me out
Speaker 1: of the Stude's Report, Please will he?
Speaker 9: In honor of Frank's eyebell and acr gun eyed pools
Speaker 9: call today swim this year, we leave you with the
Speaker 9: immortal words of the Stood Report.
Speaker 11: Our job every day is to try to kick somebody's ass.
Speaker 11: I mean, that's why we're here. That is segment.
Speaker 1: Tito Francona Tito also known as Terry, who was the
Speaker 1: manager of Michael Jordan and also a teammate and played
Speaker 1: under Rose hit kick. Think about that. Nineteen eighty seven
Speaker 1: Francona played for Pete Correct and then then he managed
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan in the minor league Barons. Yep, how about that?
Speaker 2: Crazy.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Let's continue with more segment. Thank you, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred WULW.
Speaker 6: Fordham Point.
Speaker 1: By Billy Cunningham. The Great America, of course. Reds Baseball
Speaker 1: kicks off about five forty tonight. The Reds are unbeatable
Speaker 1: and right now they're game and a half out of first.
Speaker 1: They have been winning record for the first time in
Speaker 1: about a year. That's good stuff. But the last few
Speaker 1: days we've been dealing with what's going to happen to
Speaker 1: the Bengal funding, the Browns funding, and also more. The
Speaker 1: governor was with us yesterday. Mike Dwine have on Adam Byrd,
Speaker 1: We've had on a senator Blessing or Scott Sloan dead.
Speaker 1: Now we're going to go to the top. The guy
Speaker 1: in charge of the House of Representatives and Columbus is
Speaker 1: representative of Matt Huffman. He's got deep connections to Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: went to UC law school. He also was a good
Speaker 1: friend of Leonard Rush before Leonard passed away. I have
Speaker 1: deep connections to Lineman Senior. Spoke to the boys up there,
Speaker 1: bought theom some QBI burgers, and right now we're going
Speaker 1: to get the answers. Some say he's the most powerful
Speaker 1: man in state government because when the governor does something
Speaker 1: he didn't like, he can overrule the governor's veto and
Speaker 1: the Speaker of the House, Matt Huffman, Welcome again to
Speaker 1: the Bill Cunningham Show and Speaker. First of all, let's talk.
Speaker 1: Time is always limited. Some in Cincinnati were concerned that
Speaker 1: you were giving significant money to the Cleveland Browns and
Speaker 1: not to the Cincinnati Bengals. The Governor yesterday and also
Speaker 1: Adam Burgh laid out the differences. Can you tell from
Speaker 1: the Speaker's office the differential between the Browns deal and
Speaker 1: the Bengals deal? Will one be funded and one not funded?
Speaker 8: Well, the Browns actually came to me two years ago
Speaker 8: with a request for cash for the stadium. I said, no,
Speaker 8: I didn't think that was appropriate. I said, come back
Speaker 8: with the plan where the tax payer will be held harmless.
Speaker 8: And the plan basically that they have laid out. This
Speaker 8: is a three point six billion dollar economic development plan.
Speaker 8: But the plan is they have it laid out with
Speaker 8: new taxes attracting what would have already been there, and
Speaker 8: the cost of the bond is actually over twenty five
Speaker 8: years about a one point three billion dollar money maker
Speaker 8: for the state. Now, everybody needs to go and look
Speaker 8: at the information and be convinced to that themself. So
Speaker 8: that's a lot different than putting up money, which is
Speaker 8: as I understand it. And I did meet with the
Speaker 8: Bengals and Commissioner Dridhouse a few months ago or weeks ago,
Speaker 8: and basically they're they're talking about a three hundred and
Speaker 8: fifty million dollar cage upfront money, which is similar to
Speaker 8: what the Browns were trying to do a couple of
Speaker 8: years ago. And I don't support that. I don't think
Speaker 8: the public supports it. I do support, you know, it's
Speaker 8: something similar that if the Bengals and the City of
Speaker 8: Cincinnati and the county and you know, can can come
Speaker 8: together with similar kind of plan, we ought to consider
Speaker 8: doing that where the taxpayers are held harmless or in
Speaker 8: the case of the Browns, they can actually make money.
Speaker 1: So, mister speaker, you're saying, as we sit here about
Speaker 1: two twelve pm on Wednesday afternoon, April the sixteenth, you
Speaker 1: don't have in your hands a written deal between the
Speaker 1: Bengals and the county where the state would fill in
Speaker 1: a piece unlike the Browns deal that Jimmy Haslim and
Speaker 1: his family. I understand it's putting up fifty million bucks
Speaker 1: off to the side anyway, just as a security deposit.
Speaker 1: Fifty million And right now there's no revenue coming out
Speaker 1: of that one to two hundred acres in southern Callihooa County.
Speaker 1: And but when this deal is done, the taxpayer will
Speaker 1: make one point three billion according to the plan. And
Speaker 1: that the plan. There's no plan for you to think
Speaker 1: about at this point. Am I correct in saying that
Speaker 1: from Cincinnati, right?
Speaker 8: I mean I met with them. I think it's all
Speaker 8: people smart, people of goodwill, and I think they're trying
Speaker 8: to come up with something. I think, you know, to
Speaker 8: the again extent that the state can help participate in that.
Speaker 8: I mean, it's a different kind of plan. This is
Speaker 8: the three point six billion. Two point four billion of
Speaker 8: it is private money. The state money is six hundred
Speaker 8: million through the sale of bonds and paid back over
Speaker 8: twenty five years. So it's a completely different thing. So,
Speaker 8: you know, I think if the folks in southwestern Ohio
Speaker 8: can get invented, but it doesn't just happen in a meeting.
Speaker 8: Everybody has to sort of say, here's what we're willing
Speaker 8: to do and piece it all over. And I think
Speaker 8: if they're willing to do that, I'm certainly willing to
Speaker 8: sit down and talk with them. I'm sure Governor of
Speaker 8: the Wine is too.
Speaker 1: The governor said yesterday that on air that well, in
Speaker 1: adition to those two, we have the Guardians, we have
Speaker 1: the Reds, we have minor league baseball, we have some
Speaker 1: horse racing track, we have Ohio State University. He made
Speaker 1: it look as if, well, if we raise taxes, will
Speaker 1: be able to do it. He said yesterday that he
Speaker 1: supported ray. He called them fees. Someone might call them
Speaker 1: taxes on gaming, on marijuana, and on cigarettes. Do you
Speaker 1: support an increase in fee slash taxes on any of
Speaker 1: those three items.
Speaker 2: I do not.
Speaker 8: We took those out of the Governor's proposed budget. Increase,
Speaker 8: especially on the sports gambling, would pretty much end the
Speaker 8: sports gambling and income to the state as far as
Speaker 8: I'm concerned. We lost actually a lot of folks participating
Speaker 8: that when we went from ten percent to twenty percent,
Speaker 8: some of the smaller book level B book making places
Speaker 8: did not happen. If we go to forty percent, the
Speaker 8: public finds its way around that, and our revenue would
Speaker 8: stop to drop. And don't forget El Door Speedway in
Speaker 8: Dark County. It's also a larger sports facility too.
Speaker 1: As far as marijuana, I was told by those in
Speaker 1: the business that the governor's plan to increase from ten
Speaker 1: percent to twenty percent would drive the marijuana consumer, of
Speaker 1: which I'm not one, into the dark market. And this
Speaker 1: year there's going to be about a billion dollars in
Speaker 1: total revenues in marijuana that's out of the pockets of
Speaker 1: drug dealers, which I like greatly. I don't think marijuana
Speaker 1: is a real healthy pursuit for someone, but nonetheless I'd
Speaker 1: rather have the state and legitimate thousands of employees work
Speaker 1: then kill the business. Is there a sense that, you know,
Speaker 1: pigs gets fed and hogs get slaughtered, and that if
Speaker 1: the governor has his way and he goes from ten
Speaker 1: to twenty percent, marijuana suddenly gets slaughtered, the drug dealers
Speaker 1: make more money and the state doesn't get its cut.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you know. Ronald Reagan said the more
Speaker 8: you tax something, the less you get of it, and
Speaker 8: the higher the rate, And that's what's happened. That's why
Speaker 8: we took the House took all of the taxes, all
Speaker 8: three that you mentioned out of the budget, and people
Speaker 8: will avoid paying the tax where they can. And you know,
Speaker 8: there are probably some people in Cincinnati, Ohio who go
Speaker 8: to Kentucky to buy there at tobacco, right yep. But
Speaker 8: other people will find other places to buy to buy
Speaker 8: marijuana or tobacco, and at some point the tax is
Speaker 8: so high that these other whether it's a black market,
Speaker 8: but it's even things more benign. I mean with sports gambling,
Speaker 8: you can have buddies all over the country and they
Speaker 8: throw their five thousand bucks in for the year and
Speaker 8: they all bet based on what whoever's got the best
Speaker 8: line in their state. So it's it's not something where
Speaker 8: you can control it. It's not a closed market.
Speaker 1: So if these stadiums moneies, the governor's plan is to
Speaker 1: have the stadium moneys come out of the out of
Speaker 1: the gaming and out of marijuana and cigarettes. To demand
Speaker 1: in charge of the legislature, that is not going to happen,
Speaker 1: not through raising taxes.
Speaker 8: Now, if somebody looked at us and said, let's dedicate
Speaker 8: a portion of the current gambling revenue, which is up
Speaker 8: to close to a billion dollars a year. We have
Speaker 8: some other suggestions about additional gambling in our budget that
Speaker 8: the Senate is going to review when it goes over.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 8: I don't think it can be just about sports stadiums.
Speaker 8: There's other cultural facilities you've got, you know, symphony orchestra
Speaker 8: Hall in Columbus River Bend. There may be a whole
Speaker 8: additional other things. But I do think that there has
Speaker 8: to be significant local buy in. I think if you
Speaker 8: can design a plan like the Browns have, where the
Speaker 8: state taxpayers are not only held harmless, but we make
Speaker 8: money off of the deal and bill. The reason we're
Speaker 8: making money is we're acting like the bank. We have
Speaker 8: great credit rating and we're making money from them using
Speaker 8: our credit rating. It's cheaper for them to going into
Speaker 8: the private market. This is an Ohio business, right Yeah.
Speaker 8: And so we're making money because we're the people who
Speaker 8: are issuing the bonds. And that's and of course the
Speaker 8: taxes that are created as a result of the.
Speaker 1: Effort, mister Speaker, is time of the essence. The Bengals
Speaker 1: want a deal by June thirtieth. Of course, the state
Speaker 1: budget it's a two year buy an him. It's two
Speaker 1: years June thirtieth we're ten weeks out. I have a
Speaker 1: the Bengals and the County aren't close. I have a
Speaker 1: sense that they're still going back and forth because each
Speaker 1: party doesn't trust the other. The Brown family doesn't trust
Speaker 1: the county, and the county doesn't trust the Browns, so
Speaker 1: they got a third party involved. They're going back and forth,
Speaker 1: back and forth. Is time of the essence must to
Speaker 1: be a deal by June thirtieth. Do you have the
Speaker 1: state participate?
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, I mean to have the state participate as
Speaker 8: part of this budget. But I guess if there's a plan,
Speaker 8: you know, as we'd like to say, I'd love to
Speaker 8: see the plan, right, but I don't know what that is.
Speaker 8: I'm it's you know, it took the Browns two or
Speaker 8: three years to get to the point where they are now,
Speaker 8: with people like me saying no, I'm not going to
Speaker 8: give you six hundred million dollars for a stadium. So
Speaker 8: if the Bengals are that far along, and and by
Speaker 8: the way, other folks have shown up and said I
Speaker 8: want you gave money to Browns and I told them
Speaker 8: the same thing. You know, you can develop a plan
Speaker 8: where the taxpayers are held harmless or make money you know,
Speaker 8: I would participate and I'd support that.
Speaker 1: The issue of the county corner. I speak to doctor Somarco,
Speaker 1: I think some fabulous person. And there was a part
Speaker 1: of your bill that eliminated the county corners offices in
Speaker 1: the various counties. Can you address yourself to that? And
Speaker 1: that just begins the process of not electing the sheriff,
Speaker 1: not electing the honor the treasurer, coming out of the
Speaker 1: old patronage system. Where do you stand on eliminating county corners.
Speaker 8: So in December there was a lot of press to
Speaker 8: push the increase in local elected pay, and those things,
Speaker 8: unfortunately sometimes happened in the dead of night, you know,
Speaker 8: the last session of the year. And when that came
Speaker 8: to us, a lot of folks are saying, how about
Speaker 8: some local government reform. There's actually the statute says some
Speaker 8: of our local officials only have to be in the
Speaker 8: office one out of ninety days, believe it or not.
Speaker 8: And so some would say, how about we have some
Speaker 8: local reform. And one of those was the concern that
Speaker 8: in many counties there is no doctor who's running for coroner,
Speaker 8: or sometimes a doctor runs for corner. They're paid as
Speaker 8: a coroner, but all the work is done by someone
Speaker 8: a pathologist who's hired from another county. So there were
Speaker 8: a number of things that we actually wanted in terms
Speaker 8: of local government reforms. Some got in, some didn't. And
Speaker 8: you know, I certainly think the other jobs that you
Speaker 8: mentioned does all need to be elected as well as judges.
Speaker 8: You might ask, really, why does a coroner need to
Speaker 8: be elected in the first place. Why isn't this someone
Speaker 8: that the county commissioners would hire. So I don't think
Speaker 8: it's that big of a deal from the standpoint of
Speaker 8: the House. It was just one of the few surviving
Speaker 8: local government reforms that were part of our tax pay
Speaker 8: or our local pay official package.
Speaker 1: I have a text here from a noted county official
Speaker 1: who says the following to me. County officials have the
Speaker 1: ability now to appoint corners in county that don't have
Speaker 1: a corner, and that's according to the High Revice Code.
Speaker 1: So if you're in a large county like Ohio maybe
Speaker 1: you know, or like Hamilton County Franklin, Kio, would you
Speaker 1: split off from those counties that don't have a corner
Speaker 1: and let the current law stand, which is you're going
Speaker 1: to elect the corner. But then each county still has
Speaker 1: the ability to appoint corners from other counties that can
Speaker 1: serve as more or less the acting corner. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Are you saying, how do you stand
Speaker 1: on that issue?
Speaker 8: Well, I'm aware of what the law is. The point
Speaker 8: is that someone gets appointed because they don't run. In
Speaker 8: one county, we actually have a chiropractor who is the
Speaker 8: county corner because they ran, they're qualified to do that.
Speaker 8: I think under the new rule they wouldn't be qualified.
Speaker 8: But the point is whether they're elected or appointed because
Speaker 8: no one will run, you now have a county corner
Speaker 8: who's getting paid to be the county corner who may
Speaker 8: or may not be actually doing the job of the
Speaker 8: county corner. Right, So do we want someone where nobody runs?
Speaker 8: Somebody gets appointed, they get paid. But we got to
Speaker 8: go to Cincinnati every time we got to do an
Speaker 8: autopsy because that's where the pathologist is. So there should
Speaker 8: be at some point we look at some of these
Speaker 8: local elected offices and say, really, you only have to
Speaker 8: show up one out of ninety days, couldn't be one
Speaker 8: out of thirty or something like that. So that's really
Speaker 8: all this is and you know, obviously in many counties
Speaker 8: there's a long time elected, serving coroner who does a
Speaker 8: wonderful job who probably would get hired by the commissioners
Speaker 8: under the current law. So could you yeah, that's really
Speaker 8: what it is.
Speaker 1: Are you saying this is going to stay in in
Speaker 1: that what's going to happen? Like doctor Lasmi Somarco as
Speaker 1: a world class facility built and she runs unopposed, and
Speaker 1: she wants to keep the elected system. And as a
Speaker 1: voter every now and then, I like to say, you
Speaker 1: know what, I like to vote for this. There might
Speaker 1: be an issue in the future where you throw the
Speaker 1: bombs out or keep the bombs in. What do you
Speaker 1: say to those counties that are happy with the president
Speaker 1: system and don't want.
Speaker 8: To change, Well, I think I think they should call
Speaker 8: Senator Bill Blessing is a really smart guy and asking
Speaker 8: what he thinks about it. But the point is that,
Speaker 8: you know, under that thinking, we could have a lot
Speaker 8: of war elected officials at the county level, not just
Speaker 8: the ones that we have now. And but yeah, I
Speaker 8: mean I think in some counties where you know, obviously
Speaker 8: they have somebody's elected that is important to them, it's
Speaker 8: one of these things that's probably and what I think
Speaker 8: is an extraordinarily ambitious budget bill that we just passed,
Speaker 8: not a big issue that I'm willing to die on
Speaker 8: the hill for. And we'll see what the Senate says.
Speaker 1: Is it going to change? Because the way it works,
Speaker 1: you and the House put your deal, The governor sends
Speaker 1: you a thick proposal, you go through it, you pass something.
Speaker 1: Then you give it to the Senate, they go through it,
Speaker 1: they pass something. Then you have a committee together, get together,
Speaker 1: and you talk to the governor. All that's going to
Speaker 1: be done next seven or eight. And one thing about
Speaker 1: electing the corners, that the corners beholding the people, not
Speaker 1: the appointing commissioner. And when I have on doctor some markers,
Speaker 1: you'll say he now. And then I get pressure to
Speaker 1: do certain things. And I can tell individuals I'm not
Speaker 1: appointed by some person. I work for the state of Ohio.
Speaker 1: And that's the way it ought to be, and that
Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes the system works. Is this a problem looking
Speaker 1: for a solution or is this a solution looking for
Speaker 1: a problem.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think it's a fair argument. I
Speaker 8: don't know that. And there are some odd things in
Speaker 8: the code about the coroner's the only person in the
Speaker 8: county who can arrest the sheriff. It kind of reminds
Speaker 8: me of old Star Trek episode. You know, I'm a
Speaker 8: doctor on a guy who can remove the Captain Kirk, right,
Speaker 8: But I just I think what it is is, again,
Speaker 8: in many counties they don't have a doctor who's even
Speaker 8: doing this. So why are we appointing someone who's not
Speaker 8: doing any work because we can.
Speaker 2: And of course that.
Speaker 8: Doesn't mean because they're appointed they're not doing a lot.
Speaker 1: Right, But it is an issue. And lastly, i'd encourage
Speaker 1: you to talk to doctor Somarco and others before you
Speaker 1: change the law to see how it applies on the ground.
Speaker 1: And lastly, you have about a minute remaining. There's an
Speaker 1: our article in the inquire about one hundred million dollar
Speaker 1: cut on public education. CPS is concerned, Love when schools
Speaker 1: are concerned. Deer Park schools are concerned. You're the guy
Speaker 1: in charge of the budget. Is there going to be
Speaker 1: a cut to public education?
Speaker 8: Number one, Every school district in the state of Ohio
Speaker 8: received an increase in funding from the state. That's first. Secondly,
Speaker 8: there are many school districts that have in access of
Speaker 8: twenty five percent operating fund that they are carrying over
Speaker 8: from year to year. Some of them are forty, some
Speaker 8: of them are fifty, some of them are one hundred percent.
Speaker 8: And what we actually said is, look, you can carry
Speaker 8: over thirty percent of your operating funds. The rest will
Speaker 8: be applied to tax, real estate property tax cut to
Speaker 8: the folks who are in your district, those real estate
Speaker 8: tax payers. And to me, it's the number one issue
Speaker 8: that people have talked to us about is skyrocketing real
Speaker 8: estate taxes. Right now, those those are and the simple
Speaker 8: issue is that money, if it's not being used, should
Speaker 8: be in the hands of the taxpayers and they're checking account,
Speaker 8: not the school district's checking account. Now, lots of folks say, well, gee,
Speaker 8: we're going to build a build, Okay, well, then put
Speaker 8: all that out of your operating fund, which by the way,
Speaker 8: the employees won't like because they like to collectively bargain
Speaker 8: for that money. But put it all the way, make
Speaker 8: a plan so the public understands. But you know, the
Speaker 8: City of Columbus School District, for example, they're carrying over
Speaker 8: four hundred million dollars forty six percent of their I
Speaker 8: mean and We had somebody come down testify from one
Speaker 8: of the districts and she said, look, you know, we've
Speaker 8: taken this extra money and we've invested it and we've
Speaker 8: made eight million dollars for the school district. Well, don't
Speaker 8: you thinks the people who gave you the money, they'd
Speaker 8: like to make the eight million dollars instead of you
Speaker 8: making the eight million dollars. So that's all it is. Now,
Speaker 8: if collectively people can add up numbers and say one
Speaker 8: hundred million dollars, look at every school district. My death
Speaker 8: is the City of Cincinnati school district isn't carrying over
Speaker 8: more than thirty percent? Maybe they are, and look and see,
Speaker 8: and most of the high tax districts like this are
Speaker 8: the ones that are growing. We're property valued. So the
Speaker 8: school districts in Butler County valuations have shot up, lots
Speaker 8: more money coming in. The state has made record increases
Speaker 8: under the cup Patterson Plan the last two budgets and
Speaker 8: five hundred and fifty million dollars the school districts this year.
Speaker 8: So it's not going down. These these operating carryovers are
Speaker 8: going to continue to go up. All we're saying is
Speaker 8: let's let the people who are paying the taxes of
Speaker 8: some of their money back, at least temporarily while we
Speaker 8: try to figure out the property taxes.
Speaker 1: Are you willing to meet with doctor Somarco to get
Speaker 1: her perspective on why this idea might not be a
Speaker 1: good one By getting rid of the.
Speaker 8: Corner, I'd be delighted.
Speaker 1: I'll send you. I'll send you her number to your staff,
Speaker 1: and let's see if you can work it out. You'll
Speaker 1: be impressed with her, well, Speaker, Matt Huffman, thank you,
Speaker 1: and made Leonard Russia rest in peace. I bought many
Speaker 1: a Qpie Burger when they beat Elder in the state
Speaker 1: football game. And I'm glad you're more or less a
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and but keep us in mind whatever you do,
Speaker 1: just think of Cincinnati the most important city in the
Speaker 1: state of ohiouldn't you agree?
Speaker 8: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Speaker, thank you very much. We'll do it again. God
Speaker 1: bless you.
Speaker 2: Thank you. We'll see you. Ay bye.
Speaker 1: All right, let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham News Radio
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Speaker 2: Hello, quiet, I'm broadcasting.
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Speaker 11: Every day is to try to kick somebody's ass. I
Speaker 11: mean that's why we're here.
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Speaker 9: Uh, let's see, will Ye they got the Freedel McLean, DLC, Hayes,
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Speaker 1: Okay, well once again talking about their record segment two
Speaker 1: and six now seven and two over five hundred after
Speaker 1: tax day? What do you think about that segment?
Speaker 6: Willie?
Speaker 9: The stood reporters of Proud Service, every local time Star
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Speaker 9: spots and those reds are going at it again tonight,
Speaker 9: Willy is, Let's see who is it?
Speaker 1: Uh, Bryce Miller.
Speaker 9: We'll go up against Nick Martinez five forty Sports Talk,
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Speaker 9: show after the game.
Speaker 1: Is Bryce Miller related to Bryce Harper I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I go ahead.
Speaker 9: Cincinnati's won four straight, six of seven, nine and eight
Speaker 9: on the season.
Speaker 1: What about that segment there?
Speaker 9: You'll go above the five hundred mark for the first
Speaker 9: time since May one of last year, may Day, may Day,
Speaker 9: there is second place in the NL Central a game
Speaker 9: and a half back of front running Chicago segment?
Speaker 1: Do you since nineteen ninety as I predicted it my
Speaker 1: great speech at the Holy Grail again and again, and they.
Speaker 9: Not go wire to wire. But it's looking good right now.
Speaker 9: Austin Hayes became the third read since nineteen twenty to
Speaker 9: have four plus RBIs in his team.
Speaker 1: DEVUW What about that?
Speaker 9: Joining Ryan Lavarnway with six and twenty nineteen and Mike
Speaker 9: Mustakas the Moose with four and twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Is he still out by the way a baseball er?
Speaker 2: Is he in?
Speaker 1: I think it? No, he retired. I think Musakas is out.
Speaker 1: How much money did you make from the red something
Speaker 1: like thirty million twenty and didn't do too much do anything?
Speaker 9: Red's bullpen been ostracized around here for the past twenty years?
Speaker 9: Does it as Tony Pike is the one after the
Speaker 9: Reds bullpen and mo fifth best in the majors now
Speaker 9: at two point nine six e r a two point
Speaker 9: nine six e or you know what? I like Ashcraft
Speaker 9: in that role? Do you like that he looks impregnable?
Speaker 9: And then well, of course Alexis DZ walked two guys,
Speaker 9: but he got out of it. But and then Pegan
Speaker 9: is doing a good job. Sant Santion is doing good.
Speaker 9: So what do you think?
Speaker 1: And the starting pitchers may not be able to get
Speaker 1: get in the starting rotation anymore.
Speaker 9: They're kicking you know what and take names.
Speaker 1: Maybe I should go back down segment and through some
Speaker 1: batting practice.
Speaker 9: Let's just wait for a couple of months until they
Speaker 9: get about twenty over and then you can kind of
Speaker 9: go back down there. We don't want to jinx anything
Speaker 9: with your pregame speeches. You know what happened, didn't what
Speaker 9: happened the last time you had a pregame speech, didn't
Speaker 9: Maderra lose by forty, didn't go well?
Speaker 1: Bengals up Deer Park football at Madeira. The locker room
Speaker 1: is right there. I went and told those boys where
Speaker 1: they came from, where they are and where they hoped
Speaker 1: to be. I told them the manifest destiny lies ahead.
Speaker 1: This Carlett and the Gray will never fail us. And
Speaker 1: they're looking at you like, who's this kook? Please continue.
Speaker 9: Bengal's update brought to you by Good Spirits been Party Town,
Speaker 9: thirteen convenient locations in northern Kentucky. Bengals have brought back
Speaker 9: free agent quarterback Logan Woodside gets a one year deal
Speaker 9: with for the twenty twenty five season.
Speaker 1: Is he your land? To Logan Wilson No.
Speaker 9: Originally a seventh round pick at the Bengals in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 9: he was on the practice squad all of last season.
Speaker 1: I had on the speaker, missed a speaker, Matt Huffman. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's he saying?
Speaker 9: Well, he's still out the dough, the ray and the
Speaker 9: mee coming to town from the state of Hio.
Speaker 1: Not coming from the general fund. But he said, if
Speaker 1: the county and the Bengals put together an extensive package,
Speaker 1: a deal, deal that doesn't cost the taxpayers any money,
Speaker 1: underlining that one, yeah, and he we'll look at it.
Speaker 1: Let's break that. Let's break down that sentence with uh.
Speaker 1: He said, the idea of us issuing a check to
Speaker 1: the to the Bengals for three hundred million dollars plus
Speaker 1: out of his mind. Na babanah nah nah, not babanah
Speaker 1: nah nah, noah babanah. Let's see college football.
Speaker 9: Scott Sanderfield's got a new new recruit, Detroit, Michigan native
Speaker 9: Jeremiah Gray's gonna play defensive line. He's six foot seven,
Speaker 9: eh and he's probably gonna go play basketball for West.
Speaker 1: He might need someone.
Speaker 9: Chris Mack and Charleston has landed Cincinnati transfer Connor Hickman.
Speaker 1: Did he play it all for the Bearcats.
Speaker 9: He had a foot injury and limited his time big
Speaker 9: time for the Bearcats. But another Cat has left the building.
Speaker 1: Chris Mack wanted the job at Savior and Xavier would
Speaker 1: not give it to him.
Speaker 9: Former Bearcats guard Dan Skillings junior staying in the Big twelve.
Speaker 9: He's going to go play at Baylor. Former Miami and
Speaker 9: Xavier guard Cam Craft averaged like he was at Xavier
Speaker 9: a couple of years, average fifteen points a game for Miami.
Speaker 1: Is he related to John Craft? He's going to play
Speaker 1: at Georgia Tech. The rambling wreck at Georgia Tech, right,
Speaker 1: pretty good stuff. And last night, of course, the Reds
Speaker 1: looked impregnable. They looked unbeatable, losing four to two, right, And
Speaker 1: what's the guy's name, Hayes, Austin Hayes. Is he related
Speaker 1: to Rutherford B. Hayes.
Speaker 9: He might be a distant Rutherford B. Hayes might be
Speaker 9: his great great great great great great great great grandfather.
Speaker 1: And when I had on Steve Leaper of three C
Speaker 1: D S.
Speaker 9: I think he's related to Isaac Hayes Shaft Shaft.
Speaker 1: I spoke to him about diggett old Cunny in Washington
Speaker 1: Park to who to the guy in charge of Washington
Speaker 1: Park is guy named Steve Leaper three C D C. Yeah?
Speaker 1: He said he never heard of old Cunny. I said, look,
Speaker 1: when you get off the get off there with me.
Speaker 1: Google William Cunningham.
Speaker 2: Up.
Speaker 1: Yes, a resurrectionist. He dug up a lot of bodies
Speaker 1: in Washington Park for a profit, which is kind of
Speaker 1: a hard way to make a living.
Speaker 9: Would you agree, I would say so, yeah, But yeah,
Speaker 9: it doesn't get too that wouldn't go over too big
Speaker 9: in this part of the world.
Speaker 1: Eighteen Yeah, it used to be a place for the
Speaker 1: police cars to run over the top of dadalusts homeless women,
Speaker 1: and now it's a little bit better in Washington Park.
Speaker 1: Would you agree? I would say so an old Cunny.
Speaker 1: They took the bodies out to Springtle It used to
Speaker 1: be a graveyard. Yes, it was a graveyard for decades.
Speaker 1: And then Old Coney, my distant, distant grandpa, he moved
Speaker 1: him to Spring Grove. He would do be the mortician,
Speaker 1: do the ceremony, and then his good luck. Normally you
Speaker 1: would put a few coins or watches or rings or
Speaker 1: on the corpse, right. And he developed a system after
Speaker 1: he buried him at Washington Park. It was a pulley system.
Speaker 1: At night, he'd pull him up by the shoulders, rifle
Speaker 1: through the pockets and put them back in the ground.
Speaker 1: Old Cunny, that's a great, great way to make a living. No,
Speaker 1: we came out of somewhere, That's all I can tell you.
Speaker 1: And then he also would sometimes dig up the bodies
Speaker 1: to pull him up completely, put him in the buggy,
Speaker 1: Go up down Vine Street, say hey, say a few words,
Speaker 1: say a few words. Hit a guy in his shoulder
Speaker 1: and his arm fell off. That's Old Coney, good friend
Speaker 1: of Jeff Beckham's on my way. You know, we all
Speaker 1: have deep roots, but my roots go deep into Washington Park,
Speaker 1: which but no doubt about that. Three c DC is
Speaker 1: studying Old Cunney today. That wouldn't be so popular. I
Speaker 1: don't think.
Speaker 9: Probably put a statue up of him, like everybody else
Speaker 9: around here. I need a statue, not you, Old Conny.
Speaker 1: Well, he donated his body to science, and so for
Speaker 1: years they I bet they acid washed his body and
Speaker 1: he was he was a skeleton in the back of
Speaker 1: the Medical College of Ohio. Old Cunny was there. We're
Speaker 1: still trying to locate his bones. They think they just
Speaker 1: scattered him somewhere in Spring Grove Cemetery. Go find him.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's got to be someplace run, of
Speaker 1: course by my good friend Gary Frytech, right, and Dave
Speaker 1: fried Tech they both worked there. But now we have
Speaker 1: more respect for the dead. Is that fair to say?
Speaker 1: I would say so, yeah. You don't want to pull
Speaker 1: him out and rifle through their pockets and then put
Speaker 1: them back. Old Conny had a good business though. He'd
Speaker 1: bury him, dig him back up, steal from him, put
Speaker 1: him back down, did it for five or six years,
Speaker 1: bribed the police not to arrest him. Everybody into Old Cunny.
Speaker 1: William Cunningham, the resurrectionist of Washington Park.
Speaker 9: That was before you know who took over as prosecutor
Speaker 9: Joe Dieters and brought greatness to that office.
Speaker 1: Connie Pillage says, restored integrity to the prosecution.
Speaker 9: There's your phone ringing again, There's there is your phone.
Speaker 9: Just let him there we go. There was going to
Speaker 9: be a big power. Just said the magic words and bingo,
Speaker 9: there he is.
Speaker 10: But I wanted to I wanted to make sure I
Speaker 10: did everything I could to keep us safe while repairing
Speaker 10: some of the damaged reputation of this office.
Speaker 1: Oh how does Joe receive those words? Uh? I wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna do it. We're not We're not in safe harbor yet.
Speaker 1: I want to do a pow wow with Joe Deeters,
Speaker 1: Melissa powers, Connie Pillag a little power, Rob Sanders and
Speaker 1: Mike Moser. Get them all together.
Speaker 9: The King of Butler County next to Sheriff jos.
Speaker 1: Jones would provide security. But oh, present time. Pow wow
Speaker 1: is so you want to get you want to get there?
Speaker 1: You want to get Connie Pillage justice, Joe, Yes, Melissa,
Speaker 1: Melissa powers, Mike Moser, Mike Moser, Rob Sanders in the
Speaker 1: same room. Pow wow.
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Speaker 1: Well, all I hear about Joe is he killed Harambe.
Speaker 1: And that's his claim to fame. That's all I got
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Speaker 1: And Colorado unbeatable. We leave you with the immortal words
Speaker 1: of the Stewod Report.
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