WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:02.560 This sounds like a request, is it? 2 00:00:02.560 --> 00:00:02.919 It is? 3 00:00:03.160 --> 00:00:06.280 Yes? Who we got Lake Street Dive? 4 00:00:06.440 --> 00:00:11.240 All right, Christopher Camarade, Wednesday afternoon, It's sunny and you know, 5 00:00:12.160 --> 00:00:12.800 kind of nice. 6 00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:14.599 Why aren't you sitting across from me today? 7 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:19.280 I have a sick kid home with me who is 8 00:00:19.320 --> 00:00:24.879 getting to digest all of the cartoons and he knows 9 00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:27.079 that he can milk it for as long as he can. 10 00:00:27.239 --> 00:00:31.960 So that's where we find ourselves in this chapter of parenthood. 11 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:35.000 Godspeed. What's the deal with the track today? I know 12 00:00:35.079 --> 00:00:35.799 nothing about it? 13 00:00:37.479 --> 00:00:39.920 Well, I guess in honor of the happy Gilmour two 14 00:00:40.039 --> 00:00:43.240 trailer going to My Happy Place. And my happy place 15 00:00:43.479 --> 00:00:47.119 is jam band music in the Summertime, which is about 16 00:00:47.159 --> 00:00:49.960 as opposite as it can get from right now. 17 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:54.799 Jam band music in the jam band music in the summertime. 18 00:00:54.799 --> 00:00:56.759 I'm with you on that, See cat with you on that. 19 00:00:57.280 --> 00:00:58.920 I know you are, I know you are, and I 20 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:02.640 think if you got it, Lake's Dive saw him at 21 00:01:03.159 --> 00:01:06.319 one of the Twilights, one of the year's fun jam 22 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:08.599 band from Boston. I think you would dig them, man, 23 00:01:08.719 --> 00:01:10.799 I mean, I know, I know that you can get 24 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:11.519 a little bit. 25 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:13.120 You can get down with the jam bands. 26 00:01:13.519 --> 00:01:16.640 I know that if you can let the guitarist riff 27 00:01:16.719 --> 00:01:20.000 for a while, maybe let the trumpets go, you can 28 00:01:20.040 --> 00:01:20.680 get into it. 29 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:25.799 Oh, you'll find me shoes off, gummy jam band summer 30 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:27.719 at some point You'll you'll find me at some point 31 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:29.799 this summer with no shoes and a gummy enjoined it. 32 00:01:29.799 --> 00:01:31.760 There's no doubt one with the earth. 33 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:34.959 Yes, yes, well, said Chris Well. Well, Well said ck 34 00:01:35.400 --> 00:01:37.840 Lake Street Dive. Okay, I'll check it out. What what 35 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:41.879 are the kids into? When Connor was Leo's age, it 36 00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:46.799 was Blues Clues, it was Dora, it was that dumb Barney, 37 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:48.959 that freaking purple dinosaur. 38 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:50.640 Oh my gosh, what like? 39 00:01:51.079 --> 00:01:54.959 None of the cartoons that Connor liked were digestible for adults. 40 00:01:54.959 --> 00:01:56.640 What's Leo into these days? 41 00:01:57.319 --> 00:01:59.200 There's a show called Paw Patrol. 42 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:01.359 I've heard of Patrol. 43 00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:03.439 Yes, And as soon as I said that, he looked 44 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:07.519 over at me and smiled. There's this show on PBS 45 00:02:07.519 --> 00:02:11.639 called Wildcrats, which is cool because it's like a human 46 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:16.159 to cartoon show where these two guys are supposedly like 47 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:21.439 adventure anthropologists, Indiana Jones types, and they go into the 48 00:02:21.479 --> 00:02:24.520 world of animals in a cartoon version, so. 49 00:02:24.639 --> 00:02:27.400 He likes that as well. But it is. 50 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:31.400 Reprehensible to say the least. I spend a lot of 51 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:33.520 time with my EarPods and let's just say that. 52 00:02:33.599 --> 00:02:36.800 Yeah, they if somebody could create a cartoon, the kids 53 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:38.639 love that, Adults kind of latch on. 54 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:39.960 SpongeBob doesn't count. 55 00:02:40.120 --> 00:02:42.800 Like, if you could create a cartoon, the kids are 56 00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:45.159 glued to that, adults don't want to rip their hair out. 57 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:46.719 I think that's a million dollar idea. 58 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:52.000 There's this show called Bluey out of Australia, and it's 59 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:57.400 about an Australian shepherd and its family. And the episodes 60 00:02:57.400 --> 00:02:59.960 are very short, and it is tender, and it is heartwarm, 61 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:03.680 and it is one that actually is decent, and it 62 00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:05.960 is the one show that my son cannot stand. 63 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:07.719 So the irony in that is very thick. 64 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:10.080 Yeah, and I'm out of the market for having children. 65 00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:13.159 Mine's grown, so I'll never experience. Did you ever have 66 00:03:13.240 --> 00:03:15.840 to watch Dora the Explorer for any reason at all? 67 00:03:15.960 --> 00:03:17.879 I did not, but I remember hearing about it. 68 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:18.400 Dude. 69 00:03:18.479 --> 00:03:21.439 It just like I can sing the map song still 70 00:03:21.479 --> 00:03:23.080 to this day, and it used to bother me so 71 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:26.639 so badly. But let's move on from that into more nonsense. 72 00:03:26.639 --> 00:03:30.159 So porter and I were talking earlier. NCAA tournament time 73 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:32.319 means we have to get familiar with True TV, and 74 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:36.639 True TV is airing reruns of Eastbounding Down after basketball. 75 00:03:37.479 --> 00:03:39.520 Did you consume Eastbounding Down? 76 00:03:41.159 --> 00:03:43.879 Maybe my favorite comedy show of all time? 77 00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:46.080 Oh wow, okay, yeah, yeah, I. 78 00:03:46.039 --> 00:03:50.639 Mean so much so that back when streaming wasn't really 79 00:03:50.639 --> 00:03:54.319 a thing and you had to buy episodes on Apple 80 00:03:54.719 --> 00:03:55.319 back in the day. 81 00:03:55.360 --> 00:03:56.080 Do you remember this? 82 00:03:56.159 --> 00:03:57.479 Of course? Of course. 83 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:01.960 I have them all on my still all these years later, 84 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:05.840 and travel days like when you're on one of the 85 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:08.240 Delta flights that doesn't happen to have the Wi Fi 86 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:11.439 connector doesn't have the screens. I pull it up, man, 87 00:04:11.639 --> 00:04:13.159 and I just sit in that. I sit in my 88 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:15.639 window seat and I just laugh out loud, and I 89 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:19.160 probably look like a weirdo. But it is a show 90 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:23.959 that takes me to a place that just makes me happy. 91 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:28.079 It's brilliant and offensive and no way could be done today, 92 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:30.920 but man, it is. 93 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:32.360 It's so ironic. You bring that up. 94 00:04:32.360 --> 00:04:34.519 My buddy and I were driving home from our indoor 95 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:37.120 game on Monday. We were talking about eastbound and how 96 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:39.920 much we loved it. And yeah, it's a great show, 97 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:43.120 probably my favorite comedy series of all time. 98 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:47.759 The Adam Scott cameo is the agent kills me every 99 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:52.600 single time. But Danny McBride, for me is a benefit 100 00:04:52.720 --> 00:04:55.000 of the Dowd creator. Like, if I hear that Danny 101 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:57.360 McBride has done something, he's got my attention. 102 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:02.199 I mean, I'm with you without a doubt. I think. Yeah. 103 00:05:02.319 --> 00:05:06.920 That show also had like insane cameos beyond Adam Scott, 104 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:13.120 like Craig Robinson as the one eyed like villain, the antagonist, 105 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:19.000 the guy who Kenny took out his eye, Will Ferrell 106 00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:23.680 Elite as the as the car salesman, Ashley Schaeffer. 107 00:05:27.759 --> 00:05:30.360 McConaughey was in it. I'm trying to think who else. 108 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:32.240 Marilyn Manson had a cameo in it. 109 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:36.920 Sudakis as his best friend Shane who did body surfing, 110 00:05:37.040 --> 00:05:44.839 It's in Myrtle Beach, and Ike Baron holds it's it's 111 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:49.519 it is so bad and it is so I mean, 112 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:53.360 like if if I know, I know there is a 113 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:56.639 the twenty percent of the drive Monday to Friday two 114 00:05:56.639 --> 00:05:59.040 to six, it gets too woke. I don't think this 115 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:01.959 for for your listeners. This is where we're a little 116 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:04.040 anti woke on me, spound and down, but it's a 117 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:04.560 great show. 118 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:05.120 It's funny. 119 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:09.040 Danny McBride has carte blanched Vice Principles was amazing. I 120 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:11.199 don't know if you saw that. It was only two seasons, 121 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:15.639 but kind of. Goggins is like coming out party from 122 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:18.000 like a comedic point of view and laid the groundwork 123 00:06:18.079 --> 00:06:22.480 for maybe my favorite comedy character of all time, Uncle 124 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:27.399 Baby Billy and righteous Gemstones like yes to your point, 125 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:30.560 got there eventually. Daniy McBride can do no wrong. 126 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:34.920 Is Walton Goggins properly rated? It feels like he is 127 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:36.839 having a moment because are you watching Why Lotus? He's 128 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:37.800 killing in White Lotus? 129 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:40.959 He is, and he was really good in Fallout, which 130 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:45.040 is a adaptation of a video game, popular video game 131 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:49.120 like ten years ago. But yes he is. I think 132 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:53.680 he's having his excuse me, having his moment justified. I 133 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:55.839 don't know if he saw justified. It was great and justified. 134 00:06:55.920 --> 00:07:00.120 So but baby Billy man. 135 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:01.160 So good, so good. 136 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:04.480 The song when he's singing with like the clam on 137 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:07.600 his back, Hallelujah with a payday at this fake Jesus 138 00:07:07.639 --> 00:07:10.160 resort I mean, I'm just yeah, we could go on 139 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:11.040 for hours. 140 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:13.959 If you're having a bad day, just google Will Ferrell, 141 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:18.319 Craig Robinson, Danny McBride. He's bounding down out takes. That's 142 00:07:18.360 --> 00:07:20.000 one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my 143 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:20.639 entire life. 144 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:24.959 I'm not kidding. Let the boy watch, Let the boy watch. 145 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:27.839 All right, Well, last week we did fifteen minutes on 146 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:30.480 Philip Seymour Hoffman. So yeah, you never know where we're 147 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:33.720 going to go. But we will move on now and 148 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:37.480 talk a little sports. So it is official, Christopher that 149 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:41.079 Alex Jensen has been hired as the seventeenth head coach 150 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:44.480 and Utah men's basketball history. The press conference was on 151 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:46.879 Monday night. Did the show at the John John M. 152 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:51.639 Huntsman Center on Monday afternoon. Actually, let me start here. 153 00:07:52.199 --> 00:07:54.399 It's going to get a facelift, the Huntsman Center is 154 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:57.279 and it could be a massive construction project. 155 00:07:57.399 --> 00:07:59.920 Several boxes have to be checked before we're there. 156 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:03.000 And I am one, certainly As I age that I'm 157 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:06.319 prone to nostalgia and memories, and walking into the Huntsman 158 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:08.800 Center on Monday certainly reminded me of a lot of 159 00:08:08.839 --> 00:08:11.759 fond days when Alex was playing and I was a 160 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:13.959 student at ed Utahn. The Huntsman Center has a lot 161 00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:17.399 of history, but I think this is probably the right move. 162 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:19.199 Yeah, I mean it feels like it does need a 163 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:19.639 little love. 164 00:08:19.720 --> 00:08:22.240 Yeah, without or doubt. I mean, if you look at 165 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:25.160 that campus, even from the time I went to school, 166 00:08:25.439 --> 00:08:25.959 which is. 167 00:08:27.639 --> 00:08:32.120 Sixteen years ago, like it is night and day, just 168 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:36.639 from the like the academic facilities, like the buildings. 169 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:38.759 That were up there when I was there, was. 170 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:41.919 Like, if that earthquake hits that's supposed to hit, we 171 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:44.919 are all done. Like we're in a building that is 172 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:50.200 like mad Men era built. So the fact that they're 173 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:54.320 going to give a facelift or you know, potentially have 174 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:57.039 a new place for what I would assume will be 175 00:08:57.080 --> 00:08:59.759 called the Huntsman Center still is necessary. 176 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:04.000 It's a it's a cool place and has a great history. 177 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:07.559 You know, the Magic Bird Final four run was here, 178 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:10.720 but like there hasn't been that much. There's been no 179 00:09:10.799 --> 00:09:14.440 Huntsman Magic Man like like you know, Lynn Roberts teams 180 00:09:14.440 --> 00:09:16.039 have have been fun in the last couple of years, 181 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:19.399 but like other than that, it just really hasn't you know, 182 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:21.759 obviously hasn't struck the chord with the fan base for 183 00:09:21.799 --> 00:09:24.639 a multitude of reasons. So it's a cool old building, 184 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:28.720 but I think it makes sense to be able to 185 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:34.960 fund a significant revamp on a antiquated building, even though 186 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:37.000 it's cool for sure. 187 00:09:37.039 --> 00:09:40.440 And we had Doctor Hill in studio yesterday, and you know. 188 00:09:40.440 --> 00:09:41.919 Doctor Hill, the Cores hired. 189 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:44.720 Rick mcjerison was around when Alex was a player, and 190 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:47.759 Alex reached out to Doctor Hill and talked to him 191 00:09:47.799 --> 00:09:50.639 before he decided to take the job. And this feels, 192 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:54.519 Chris like a hire that simply has just been given 193 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:57.039 the thumbs up by everybody all over the place, whatever 194 00:09:57.080 --> 00:10:00.399 wherever your spot is in this ecosystem, if you played 195 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:02.480 for the school, if you're in the administration, if you 196 00:10:02.559 --> 00:10:04.519 cover the team, or if you're a fan or whatever. 197 00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:06.279 Feels like everybody's on board. 198 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:09.120 But then, of course the next step is understanding how 199 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:11.480 the staff is going to look. But what what are 200 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:14.440 the boxes that have to be checked until you know, 201 00:10:14.519 --> 00:10:18.120 prior to finally seeing consistent big crowds in that in 202 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:18.679 that building. 203 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:24.799 Yeah, I would start with I mean, if we're going 204 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:31.000 to invert the pyramid like one star talent, two tantilizing 205 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:35.559 style play, three wins like you kind of have to 206 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:39.000 have an amalgamation of all those three. And obviously they 207 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:41.960 can come, you know in waves, like you can have 208 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:44.799 star talent that might underachieve for a while and blossom 209 00:10:44.840 --> 00:10:47.919 into something major. You could be like those BYU teams 210 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:50.159 that frankly like in the last decade haven't been great 211 00:10:50.159 --> 00:10:52.919 in the postseason, but like they've played an enticing style 212 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:56.080 of basketball, and you know, whether it was Dave Rose 213 00:10:56.200 --> 00:11:00.480 or Mark Pope or whomever, like they got people to 214 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:03.200 want to go to their games or watch their games. 215 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:06.720 Utah just simply hasn't had that for quite a long time. 216 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:11.679 And like there are other teams in college basketball across 217 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:13.000 the country that I figure that out. 218 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:14.799 Utah, for whatever. 219 00:11:14.480 --> 00:11:18.399 Reason, amongst you know, several you know, generations of coaches 220 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:20.799 now in the last twenty years, hasn't really been able 221 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:23.559 to nail that down. So I think that is one 222 00:11:23.559 --> 00:11:27.159 thing that faces Alex like right off the right, off 223 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:30.080 the back, like he has to get good players and 224 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:33.200 he has to install a system where it's like I 225 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:36.360 know in this you know, you know, pace and space era, 226 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:39.240 like that is going to be you know key for 227 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:42.799 a lot. Yeah, I got you, but I know that 228 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:44.799 is going to be paramount for a lot of teams, 229 00:11:45.080 --> 00:11:48.840 and it might work for some teams, but like just 230 00:11:49.080 --> 00:11:51.759 I don't know, man end up on Sports Center Top ten, 231 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:55.360 like give give give a casual college basketball fan a 232 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:59.240 reason to tune in to watch Utah play whomever. Wh 233 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:01.279 who are going to out there for the sake of 234 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:05.399 being funny this week West Virginia, Like like, give the 235 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:07.039 people a reason to tune in. 236 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:09.120 And I guarantee you. 237 00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:12.200 Utah fans not only haven't really been tuning in the 238 00:12:12.279 --> 00:12:16.679 last or so, but like the casuals who probably remember 239 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:21.120 Utah being you know, fun way back when, definitely haven't 240 00:12:21.159 --> 00:12:21.879 been paying attention. 241 00:12:21.960 --> 00:12:22.720 So that matters too. 242 00:12:23.159 --> 00:12:24.440 When it comes to the staff. 243 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:27.679 We've discussed it, but it seems like every time I 244 00:12:27.759 --> 00:12:31.120 read anything about it or hear anything from people, there 245 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:33.320 is this feel like, yeah, you got to just get. 246 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:34.320 All the Utah guys. 247 00:12:34.320 --> 00:12:36.639 You just got to get And look, I've said this 248 00:12:36.840 --> 00:12:39.399 probably twenty times. I'll say it again for those that 249 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:42.639 haven't heard. If Andrea wants to come, that's the higher 250 00:12:42.679 --> 00:12:46.279 you make. To me, that's a no brainer. And part 251 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:48.080 of that is me. I'm sorry, I know you want 252 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:50.720 to be a gen xer, but I am, and as 253 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:52.639 a gen xer, you walk into a gym with Andre 254 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:55.720 Miller on your bench, that's cache incredibility that's hard to find. 255 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:58.159 But beyond that, I think we're doing. 256 00:12:58.039 --> 00:13:01.080 Alex maybe a little bit of a disservice by saying, Okay, 257 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:04.519 just hire everybody else that wants to have the job that, 258 00:13:04.679 --> 00:13:06.919 once upon a time may may have played at Utah. 259 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:11.919 He's been away from the college game, certainly for twenty years, 260 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:15.480 and he's been in pro basketball on a number of 261 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:18.200 different levels during that timeframe as well. And I'm sure 262 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:22.679 he has relationships and has cultivated relationships that are beyond 263 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:27.080 this ecosystem and this community what sort and I've been 264 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:28.919 and I talked to Doc Hill about this yesterday. If 265 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:32.720 we use the coach with model, he has coaches of 266 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:35.600 all different races, and he tries to balance things out 267 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:38.159 within state guys, out of state guys, and certainly you 268 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:41.840 need people that understand the just the way things work 269 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:44.399 around here. Sometimes I feel like that's a little bit overstated. 270 00:13:44.440 --> 00:13:47.240 But generally speaking, as we wait to hear how Alex 271 00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:49.440 fiells out his staff, what are you expecting to see? 272 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:53.399 I mean the fact that he's coming from the league. 273 00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:57.080 Probably lends to the theory that he might be willing 274 00:13:57.159 --> 00:13:59.600 to bring some guys that he's met along the way 275 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:03.159 to work with him, and maybe not premier front bench 276 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:06.559 NBA assistants, but guys that he got to know over 277 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:11.120 the years, whether it was in the G League, D League, Jazz, Mavericks, whatever. 278 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:15.240 Alex doesn't really strike me as like the really like 279 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:19.360 super nostalgic type in that, like, I don't think he 280 00:14:19.840 --> 00:14:23.159 believes that they'll only be successful if they only have 281 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:25.679 guys with Utah guys and like all you have to 282 00:14:25.720 --> 00:14:27.840 do is look down in provo And I know Utah 283 00:14:27.919 --> 00:14:30.879 fans hate hearing something like that, but like Kevin Young 284 00:14:30.960 --> 00:14:33.639 hired a bunch of dudes who really don't have much 285 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:36.480 many ties to BYU at all. I mean, he hired 286 00:14:36.519 --> 00:14:39.559 wild White, who was you know, Rudy Gobert's D League, 287 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:41.759 G League coach back in the day, and like was 288 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:46.039 like coaching in Germany. So like, all you have to 289 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:48.440 do is find the right mix of guys and find 290 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:51.399 the guys who are good at recruiting and recruitingly, it's 291 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:52.440 a good players period. 292 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:57.960 Yeah, it does. Honeymoon period. Uh, you know, because we 293 00:14:58.000 --> 00:14:58.799 do this weird thing. 294 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:02.120 I've talked about it before where sports fans just seem 295 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:04.799 to love you until they don't. And the Donovan Mitchell 296 00:15:04.799 --> 00:15:06.679 example in our market is what I always go to 297 00:15:06.799 --> 00:15:09.759 where like that dude walked on water, Untell you very 298 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:13.960 much did not. And right now, everything, as you like 299 00:15:14.039 --> 00:15:15.799 to say, is the kids like to say the vibes 300 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:19.000 are high and good vibes around the program, you know, 301 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:22.279 and that's that's a good thing, you know. Me though, 302 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:25.519 I'm gonna say it results over vibes. How long How 303 00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:27.559 long does Alex get before we start doing the thing 304 00:15:27.559 --> 00:15:29.600 where we're like, hey, maybe this wasn't the right call. 305 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:33.759 Well, I'll start off by saying it depends on what 306 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:36.919 his nil budget is, because I think in this, in 307 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:41.120 this era of college athletics, you have to take that 308 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:43.519 into account right off the bat. 309 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:47.120 So if Alex has a. 310 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:50.879 You know, treasure trove of money to go out and compete, 311 00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:54.279 then like I think you are going to be leaned 312 00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:58.559 upon to get results very quickly because money gets good 313 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:02.240 players now and we've seen at BYU. So what are 314 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:07.399 you saying, dude, I'm on the radio. Sorry, we are in. 315 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:08.720 An era now, where. 316 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:12.080 You have to be able to pay good players, and 317 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:18.240 Utah hasn't had good players lately and he's going to 318 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:22.240 have I mean, is it is it unrealistic to say 319 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:25.159 four or five years like this is? This is kind 320 00:16:25.159 --> 00:16:28.200 of the tricky part, you know, bringing home a legend 321 00:16:28.200 --> 00:16:31.360 of a program that was representative of a heyday that's 322 00:16:31.399 --> 00:16:34.559 always going to be measured up to. Like I'm not 323 00:16:34.600 --> 00:16:36.960 saying it's not going to work out by all accounts. 324 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:39.279 Alex is a you know, a really good coach and 325 00:16:39.320 --> 00:16:41.639 a guy that should be able to turn things. 326 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:43.679 Around, but homecomings don't always work out. 327 00:16:43.720 --> 00:16:45.759 I mean, like you can look as recently as you 328 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:48.120 know Mike Woodson at Indiana, a guy who was a 329 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:50.360 head coach in the NBA for a very long time, 330 00:16:50.440 --> 00:16:53.000 and I think Mike Woodson was like a star player 331 00:16:53.039 --> 00:16:56.120 under Bobby Knight back in the day. And like Mike 332 00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:58.600 Woodson didn't have much success at Indiana at all. So 333 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:02.039 I know every example at every. 334 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:02.679 School is different. 335 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:07.480 But for me, it's going to start with how much 336 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:09.880 money does Alex and his staff have at their disposal 337 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:12.039 and what kind of players they can bring in in 338 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:14.599 I say one or two years. 339 00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:17.799 Nor of ball and grinder of tape, apparently Chris Camraadi 340 00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:19.839 on the program, good Mike Woodson knowledge. 341 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:21.640 The example I keep coming back to. 342 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:25.880 I can remember when BYU hired ty Dettner, and all 343 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:28.599 of my BYU bros, all of my BYU family members 344 00:17:28.599 --> 00:17:32.839 are like, all right, Championship game over tied is the 345 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:36.519 man Heisman Trophy, And within like four games, people down 346 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:38.519 there were like, he has no clue what he's doing. 347 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:40.279 He's never coached college football before. 348 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:42.680 Well, correct me if I'm wrong. 349 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:45.759 I feel like Tye jumped from like one a Texas 350 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:50.319 private school football to being BYU's offensive coordinator. 351 00:17:50.440 --> 00:17:52.400 I think that was I think that was the jump. 352 00:17:53.640 --> 00:17:57.039 So yeah, I mean, I'm sure if you ask Polani 353 00:17:57.079 --> 00:17:59.880 in retrospect, that was a learning moment for him and 354 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:03.759 like proof that no matter how far you back, how 355 00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:07.559 far back you go in terms of nostalgia, it doesn't 356 00:18:07.559 --> 00:18:13.400 always equate to results in present day. And but there 357 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:15.680 are also you know, tons of examples as well, so 358 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:18.559 it's it's hard. Man. I'm always going to be with 359 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:21.599 you on results over vibes, and I'm always going to 360 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:24.839 be with you on you have to understand this place, 361 00:18:25.880 --> 00:18:31.119 the culture here, and how to get to people, and 362 00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:33.759 for too long, Utah has missed out on some of 363 00:18:33.759 --> 00:18:36.000 the best and state recruits, not only to be Yu, 364 00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:38.319 I mean they were losing guys to Utah State, Spence. 365 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:41.480 I mean, like I know, Utah State has, you know, 366 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:44.759 is a legacy school. Guys like Sam Merrill will go 367 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:48.599 to Utah State because they're legacies. But like, you've got 368 00:18:48.599 --> 00:18:51.240 to get some in state players that are really, really good. 369 00:18:51.279 --> 00:18:54.240 I mean growing up, like when I moved here, there 370 00:18:54.279 --> 00:18:55.359 weren't that many good. 371 00:18:55.319 --> 00:18:56.480 High school basketball players. 372 00:18:56.480 --> 00:18:59.880 But since I got into this job thirteen years ago, 373 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:02.960 there have been a lot of good players come out 374 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:05.400 of the state. And like we churn out pro players 375 00:19:05.480 --> 00:19:08.839 quite often now. So it's not hard to be able 376 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:12.039 to set your recruiting boundary not too wide. But you've 377 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:13.640 got to be able to win the head to heads 378 00:19:13.640 --> 00:19:14.839 with people in state. 379 00:19:16.279 --> 00:19:18.440 Yeah, one hundred percent, you know. 380 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:21.640 And we keep talking about the Majeris model where you 381 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:25.319 were able to get superstars like Van Horn and Andre 382 00:19:25.559 --> 00:19:27.759 from out of state Doliak and then supplement it with 383 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:29.960 the Britton Johnson's, the Josh Grants of the world that 384 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:35.279 played here locally. All right, speaking of results over vibes, 385 00:19:35.960 --> 00:19:40.400 the red hot Real Salt Lakes streak as RSEL has 386 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:43.279 won two of their last three. They go down to 387 00:19:43.400 --> 00:19:45.920 Houston and get a result, which they never do. My 388 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:50.160 guy Diego gets his first goal. Your guy Diogo also 389 00:19:50.519 --> 00:19:54.039 opens his bank account. Kids, that's a soccer term. So 390 00:19:54.519 --> 00:19:57.279 it he changed in the k take on RSL after 391 00:19:57.319 --> 00:19:59.440 a couple of decent results over their past three I mean, 392 00:19:59.599 --> 00:20:02.839 I'm ref rushing our guy Tom Bogert every day to 393 00:20:02.839 --> 00:20:04.720 see if a nine's on the way, but we continue 394 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:05.000 to wait. 395 00:20:05.559 --> 00:20:06.279 No change. 396 00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:10.319 RSL ran into a team whose fortunes and current roster 397 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:14.200 construction is much worse than their own. They lost their 398 00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:16.799 starting goalkeeper to a torn aco like five minutes into 399 00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:20.400 the game, so the Dynamo or downs fence. But you know, 400 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:23.640 credit to ourselves. They won in a place that historically 401 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:28.400