WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.160 --> 00:00:12.359 Callaroga Shock Media. Hi there, I'm Johnny Mack with your 2 00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:14.800 daily Comedy News, a daily briefing on stand up comedy, 3 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:18.679 comedians and the comedy industry. This one from a while back. 4 00:00:18.839 --> 00:00:21.239 I pre taped today to accommodate my schedule how to 5 00:00:21.280 --> 00:00:24.800 do some stuff. Yesterday, Jerry Seinfeld and Nate Bergatzi had 6 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:27.800 spoken to poll Star, but let's pick away at this 7 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:30.879 Nate talked about how he's been finding comedians. He said, 8 00:00:30.879 --> 00:00:32.920 I've done every show you could possibly do. I've done 9 00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:35.960 Bowling Alleys to Arenas. We have a YouTube page where 10 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:37.920 we have the showcase and they're doing ten minutes, and 11 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:39.960 we try to shoot some half hours with comics doing 12 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:41.960 an hour and try to give them a path. As 13 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:44.719 someone pops, they pop. I've been going after a lot 14 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:46.880 of older comedians. They could be my age or whatever, 15 00:00:47.159 --> 00:00:48.840 but they have the chops and the experience to be 16 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:51.280 able to create this material. One in particular is Greg Warren, 17 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:54.399 very funny comedian. He's been doing comedy for thirty years. 18 00:00:54.759 --> 00:00:56.280 I brought him in. He's come with me. We were 19 00:00:56.320 --> 00:00:57.719 in Kansas City and he got a date at the 20 00:00:57.719 --> 00:00:59.759 Comedy Club of Kansas City. Two months later, we do 21 00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:02.039 two shows in the arena there. Out of doing ten 22 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:04.879 minutes on two of the arena shows, they added fourteen shows. 23 00:01:04.959 --> 00:01:07.239 That's just from him doing ten minutes. But he murdered 24 00:01:07.280 --> 00:01:10.159 so hard we had another one. Derek Stroop did nine. 25 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:14.319 Derek Stroop recently out on Netflix is fantastic. Jerry Seinfeld said, 26 00:01:14.319 --> 00:01:16.640 what's changed in the past twenty years for comedians. It's 27 00:01:16.680 --> 00:01:19.079 like a destination. We're gonna go see this comedian. This 28 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:21.439 is an important thing for us to do. What changed, 29 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:24.760 Nate said, A good beginning was your Comedian documentary. I 30 00:01:24.799 --> 00:01:26.680 come from that. We watched you build a new set. 31 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:28.920 I'd never seen an inside look like that, especially for 32 00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:31.079 someone like me who's not from New York. I was 33 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:33.519 already trying to do comedy and seeing it, but I 34 00:01:33.560 --> 00:01:35.760 wasn't seeing someone that was you go and not get 35 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:37.560 laughs at Gotham or wherever, and you run around to 36 00:01:37.560 --> 00:01:39.920 the clubs and you work on this thing. You started it. Essentially, 37 00:01:39.959 --> 00:01:41.599 it was a large group of people around my age 38 00:01:41.599 --> 00:01:43.599 that kind of made it, and like, all right, we 39 00:01:43.640 --> 00:01:44.799 want to go do this. I want to be a 40 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:48.000 stand up comedian. After that, comics weren't getting sitcoms anymore. 41 00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:50.079 That route was shut down. Now you're just gonna do 42 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:52.319 stand up. Then he had all rooms open up and 43 00:01:52.359 --> 00:01:55.040 it started to expand. Another one was Dane Cook when 44 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:57.480 he did tour Gasm and was doing arenas on HBO. 45 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:00.560 He was the biggest comic on the planet, Like that's 46 00:02:00.599 --> 00:02:02.599 dude's a rockstar from just being a comedian. Then you 47 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:05.280 had your Jim Gaffigan Sebastian. You had comics having full 48 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:07.719 careers and doing big arenas, big things and stand up. 49 00:02:07.959 --> 00:02:10.520 Brian Reagan's another never did stuff in the Hollywood world 50 00:02:10.719 --> 00:02:12.439 was a comedian that got big and Netflix was a 51 00:02:12.439 --> 00:02:14.240 part of that. Comedy Central was a giant part of 52 00:02:14.240 --> 00:02:17.520 that as well. You Jerry said something about what hurt sitcoms? 53 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:19.400 What was going to be funnier than the standup comedian? 54 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:20.919 You can't make a movie I have as much laughs 55 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:23.080 as stand up. To that, Jerry said, it seemed like 56 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:26.120 those forums deteriorated. The reason was that someone has to 57 00:02:26.159 --> 00:02:27.919 prove each thing in the movie or TV show, Where 58 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:29.360 a stand up we just go right to them and 59 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:31.919 say what do you think of this? Having a third 60 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:34.319 party make a decision was an obstruction of being funny. 61 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:35.960 That was one of the reasons my show did well 62 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:37.840 in the nineties. It was Larry David and I and 63 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:40.319 nobody said anything to us. We just did what we 64 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:42.560 wanted and there was no network involvement really at all. 65 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:45.680 Mark Maren caught up with Consequence of Sound and they 66 00:02:45.719 --> 00:02:48.840 discussed how Maren works politics in and Maarn said, I 67 00:02:48.840 --> 00:02:50.800 didn't make a statement. I made a joke, That's what 68 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:53.520 I do. An example of that was his comments about 69 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:55.800 the Riod Comedy Festival, in which Maren said, how do 70 00:02:55.840 --> 00:02:57.439 you promote that for the people that brought you nine 71 00:02:57.479 --> 00:02:59.599 to eleven? Maren said, I made a joke about it, 72 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:01.280 and I guess the joke had some residents and kind 73 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:03.719 of sparked a more culturally active look at the participants 74 00:03:03.719 --> 00:03:07.000 in that festival. Consequence writes on this subject, his voice 75 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:10.240 dips with contempt. Maren said, it's about money, dude. It's 76 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:12.400 really about can you rationalize taking that money? And most 77 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:14.240 people can because that's the world we live in. And 78 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:16.199 I'm not even on any kind of high horse. I 79 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:19.759 get it. Hey, all money's crappy. Maren clarifies there is 80 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:22.360 no dollar amount that would have enticed him to Riodd. 81 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:25.199 He also does not buy the argument that those comedians 82 00:03:25.199 --> 00:03:28.759 were spreading Western values. Maren said, autocratic countries that become 83 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:31.280 culturally westernized. I don't think it ever changes the politics 84 00:03:31.280 --> 00:03:33.080 of those countries. It just does what it does here, 85 00:03:33.159 --> 00:03:36.400 creates more distraction the sense of freedom of choice because 86 00:03:36.439 --> 00:03:38.000 when you have a few different restaurants and a few 87 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:41.319 different places you can go online adopting Western culture. It's 88 00:03:41.360 --> 00:03:44.199 not helping us right now. Maren continued. If you can 89 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:46.240 rationalize taking the money and live with that, that's how 90 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:48.240 this world works. You know, our president, who's supposed to 91 00:03:48.240 --> 00:03:50.039 be an example of something American, might be the most 92 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:52.840 American president we've had in years, who knows. Get away 93 00:03:52.879 --> 00:03:54.599 with what you can get away with. Get all the money, 94 00:03:54.599 --> 00:03:57.120 you can double down on anything. Don't take responsibility or 95 00:03:57.120 --> 00:04:00.479 apologize for anything. Jessica Kerson was one of the comedians 96 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:02.759 who played the Riant Comedy Festival. She caught up with 97 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:06.039 Pride Source. They did not talk about said festival. They 98 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:08.439 talked about touring, and Jessica Curson said, you can't make 99 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:10.719 a living from the internet. It helps, but it's more 100 00:04:10.759 --> 00:04:12.159 that a lot of us put up videos to build 101 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:14.120 an audience. We can perform four on the road because 102 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:15.919 people follow you. They look at your schedule, they look 103 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:17.920 at way you're performing. Plus I've been doing live stand up. 104 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:20.240 I just started my twenty seventh year, and online is 105 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:21.680 not the same, you know, because you don't have the 106 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:24.600 audience reaction. Now that I'm performing for a thousand people 107 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:26.720 each time, it's very different from the years and years 108 00:04:26.720 --> 00:04:28.639 of just doing it and hoping that an audience shows up. 109 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:30.600 The demand is there now. The traveling is very hard, 110 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:32.600 the planes and the hotels and all that stuff, but 111 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:34.560 the shows are amazing, so when you get there it's 112 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:36.800 all right, But on the way it's a lot. They 113 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:39.160 were curious how the bit where Jessica turns away from 114 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:42.439 the audience to share her internal monologue evolved. Jessica said, 115 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:43.879 I just did it on stage one night. I don't 116 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:46.079 even remember where it was or when. For a long 117 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:47.920 time it didn't work. People were like, this woman has 118 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:50.759 a metal disorder. Until I realized it was a save line. 119 00:04:50.879 --> 00:04:52.120 I had to do it when a joke didn't go 120 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:54.240 over well or when there was awkward silence. Then the 121 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:56.920 response was so positive. I kept doing it. From the 122 00:04:57.040 --> 00:05:00.839 La Times in Los Angeles, Miracle Mile neighborhood flanked by 123 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:04.240 the Libreat tarpits, The La County Museum of Art and 124 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:08.000 a Diner is a dense concentration of charming Art Deco 125 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:11.720 and Spanish Mediterranean style apartment buildings. And on the corner 126 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:15.759 of Fourth and Cochrane you'll find a plaque. Strapped to 127 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:18.720 a street sign. You'll find a golden plaque commemorating Conan 128 00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:22.920 O'Brien's time living on Cochrane. The plaque features Conan's face 129 00:05:22.959 --> 00:05:25.160 as a bronze bust, with a short description of his 130 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:27.720 life there before he became an Oscar's host. It is 131 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:30.920 not official. It was created by the Cochrane Committee of 132 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:36.160 Conan Connoisseurs. I guess they're the CZ which we're told 133 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:38.120 is actually just one guy who lives on Cochran Avenue, 134 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:40.680 occasionally listens to Conan's podcast, has a free time, and 135 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:42.600 no real authority to put up a monument. But did 136 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:45.480 it Anyway. We know all this because it says that 137 00:05:45.560 --> 00:05:48.720 on the inscription I love everything about this story. So 138 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:52.199 who is the Cochrane Committee of Conan Connoisseurs. Well, it's 139 00:05:52.240 --> 00:05:55.600 Tim Hammill. He's the entire committee. He wanted people to 140 00:05:55.639 --> 00:05:57.800 know that Conan O'Brien used to live on that block 141 00:05:57.879 --> 00:06:00.680 in the nineteen eighties. The plaque riffs on the Baseball 142 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:04.279 Hall of Fame plaques and the cream colored California historical signs. 143 00:06:04.680 --> 00:06:07.680 The CCCC explains, I wanted something that would look like 144 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:09.839 a plaque from far away that would catch people's attention, 145 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:11.800 make them want to come over and read it. He 146 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:14.639 then had it to Staples, printed out a large, sturdy 147 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:17.079 poster and fastened it to the stop sign on his block. 148 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:20.600 In describing Conan O'Brien's time on Cochrane, the plaque reads, 149 00:06:20.680 --> 00:06:24.279 it was a time of struggle, ingenuity, and questionable mayonnaise 150 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:27.600 based decisions. From these humble beginnings, the street witness the 151 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:30.720 rise of a comedy icon. May the monument quote a 152 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:34.360 poster affixed with zipsies inspire Cochrane Avenue residents to chase 153 00:06:34.360 --> 00:06:37.480 their dreams, embrace the originality in one day upgrade to 154 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:40.720 a home with more than one bathroom. Maria Bamford was 155 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:43.879 on the Last Laugh podcast. They pointed out that Netflix 156 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:47.319 CEO Ted Sorrando said her show Lady Dynamite is the 157 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:50.959 best original series the streamer has ever released. Bamford said 158 00:06:51.079 --> 00:06:53.600 that clearly isn't true. There is no best, there is 159 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:55.240 no worse. There's just a bunch of people out there 160 00:06:55.240 --> 00:06:57.199 doing a craft and doing it beautifully in all sorts 161 00:06:57.240 --> 00:07:00.439 of ways. We are reminded that last year bill Board 162 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:03.319 ranked Maria Bamford the ninth best comedian of the twenty 163 00:07:03.319 --> 00:07:07.680 first century, which is of course crazy talk. There's an 164 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:09.600 episode somewhere in the December feet if you want to 165 00:07:09.639 --> 00:07:12.680 hear me comment about that. Nothing against Maria Bamford, but 166 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:14.839 seems a little high. Can we talk about that list. 167 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:16.600 Let's talk about that list. Where's that list? Let me 168 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:18.439 pull that up for us. I won't spend a lot 169 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:21.759 of time on this, but looking at their list. One 170 00:07:21.879 --> 00:07:25.160 Dave Chappelle, of course. Two Chris Rock fine, pick three 171 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:28.519 c K even though he's canceled. Fine, pick for Mulaney, 172 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:31.920 sure fine. Five Bill Burr. Bill Burr had a good 173 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:35.600 twenty four years before losing it last year. Jerry Seinfeld. 174 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:37.560 You know, you might think of him as more of 175 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:39.600 a twentieth century comedian, but if you've seen him in 176 00:07:39.600 --> 00:07:41.959 the twenty first century, can't argue with that. Kevin Art 177 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:45.399 at seven, Norm McDonald at eight. I don't want to debate. 178 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:48.879 Norm MacDonald today, that's fine. Bamford is the nine. Robin 179 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:51.639 Williams at ten is he a twentieth century comedian or 180 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:54.959 twenty first? See I don't like that pick either. Sebastian 181 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:58.399 at eleven is just insane. Nay to twelve is way 182 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:02.319 too high. Sandler at thirtie we've discussed this. Attel at 183 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:08.000 fourteen is criminally underrated. Hepburg at fifteen love Hebburg. But 184 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:10.639 it's two albums or three if you want to count 185 00:08:10.680 --> 00:08:14.120 the posthumous one and out. But okay, love Hebburg. If 186 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:15.519 you listen to the show, you know I love Hebburg. 187 00:08:15.879 --> 00:08:18.920 Gervais at sixteen, Wanda Sykes at seventeen is a little 188 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:22.399 crazy to me eighteen Patrese O'Neil. You've heard me speak. 189 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:24.639 I did not like the man, so I'm biased. Ali 190 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:30.000 Wong at nineteen, Sarah Silverman at twenty seems high, Gabe 191 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:33.679 Iglesias at twenty one, gaff Again at twenty two. He 192 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:37.039 might not call you back, but it seems really really underrated. 193 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:40.080 Trevor Noah twenty three, Billy Connolly at twenty four, and 194 00:08:40.200 --> 00:08:44.000 John Stewart at twenty five. And I respect John Stewart 195 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:45.440 a lot, but I'm not sure he's in the same 196 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:49.519 category in terms of stand up. I know he tours whatever. Alright, 197 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:52.960 so back to Bamford, who's number nine on that list, 198 00:08:53.679 --> 00:08:55.320 She said of the list, it's just a trend and 199 00:08:55.360 --> 00:08:58.519 clearly not true. She suggested other women like Nicki Glazer 200 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:00.720 and Kathy Griffin should be on the list as well, 201 00:09:00.919 --> 00:09:02.639 but she did repost it. She said, Oh no, I 202 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:04.799 retweeted it just to be clear if the propaganda has 203 00:09:04.799 --> 00:09:08.679 been reposted. Shang Wang, one of my favorite current comedians, 204 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:11.399 finds the most ordinary of things to be funny. He said, 205 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:13.080 it's about taking a step back and look at the 206 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:15.200 world as if you're an alien, meaning you're not taking 207 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:16.879 any of it for granted, you're just an aw of 208 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:19.000 what this thing is. But I'm also taking a step 209 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:21.279 in and looking closely at what it appears to be. 210 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:26.360 Some of his inspirations photographers William Eggleston and Elliott Erwitz 211 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:30.120 stay with me. Shehangwan explains. Eggleston would take pictures of 212 00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:32.559 a tricycle but from a very low angle, and Elliott 213 00:09:32.639 --> 00:09:35.320 Erwit was catching interesting and funny little moments when things 214 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:37.759 in life just lined up like melon's on a stand 215 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:41.039 that looks like a lady's boobs. Wang tries to work clean, 216 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:43.279 explaining the reason that I don't really use profanity is 217 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:44.919 because I want to find the most unique and specific 218 00:09:44.919 --> 00:09:47.039 way to say what I'm trying to say. I think 219 00:09:47.039 --> 00:09:48.720 part of my comedy is to remind people that were 220 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:50.799 human and were not separate from nature. I think it's 221 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:52.879 important for us to pay attention to and appreciate the 222 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:56.120 flora and fauna and how the ecosystems work. In the past, 223 00:09:56.120 --> 00:09:57.919 I've done a kind of comedy show with pictures of 224 00:09:57.919 --> 00:09:59.679 plants that I've taken. I might go back to doing 225 00:09:59.679 --> 00:10:02.120 some ver Know that and that is your comedy news 226 00:10:02.120 --> 00:10:03.440 for today. Catch it tomorrow.