Speaker 1: Callaroga Shock Media. Hi there, I'm Johnny Mack with your
Speaker 1: daily Comedy News, a daily briefing on stand up comedy,
Speaker 1: comedians and the comedy industry. This one from a while back.
Speaker 1: I pre taped today to accommodate my schedule how to
Speaker 1: do some stuff. Yesterday, Jerry Seinfeld and Nate Bergatzi had
Speaker 1: spoken to poll Star, but let's pick away at this
Speaker 1: Nate talked about how he's been finding comedians. He said,
Speaker 1: I've done every show you could possibly do. I've done
Speaker 1: Bowling Alleys to Arenas. We have a YouTube page where
Speaker 1: we have the showcase and they're doing ten minutes, and
Speaker 1: we try to shoot some half hours with comics doing
Speaker 1: an hour and try to give them a path. As
Speaker 1: someone pops, they pop. I've been going after a lot
Speaker 1: of older comedians. They could be my age or whatever,
Speaker 1: but they have the chops and the experience to be
Speaker 1: able to create this material. One in particular is Greg Warren,
Speaker 1: very funny comedian. He's been doing comedy for thirty years.
Speaker 1: I brought him in. He's come with me. We were
Speaker 1: in Kansas City and he got a date at the
Speaker 1: Comedy Club of Kansas City. Two months later, we do
Speaker 1: two shows in the arena there. Out of doing ten
Speaker 1: minutes on two of the arena shows, they added fourteen shows.
Speaker 1: That's just from him doing ten minutes. But he murdered
Speaker 1: so hard we had another one. Derek Stroop did nine.
Speaker 1: Derek Stroop recently out on Netflix is fantastic. Jerry Seinfeld said,
Speaker 1: what's changed in the past twenty years for comedians. It's
Speaker 1: like a destination. We're gonna go see this comedian. This
Speaker 1: is an important thing for us to do. What changed,
Speaker 1: Nate said, A good beginning was your Comedian documentary. I
Speaker 1: come from that. We watched you build a new set.
Speaker 1: I'd never seen an inside look like that, especially for
Speaker 1: someone like me who's not from New York. I was
Speaker 1: already trying to do comedy and seeing it, but I
Speaker 1: wasn't seeing someone that was you go and not get
Speaker 1: laughs at Gotham or wherever, and you run around to
Speaker 1: the clubs and you work on this thing. You started it. Essentially,
Speaker 1: it was a large group of people around my age
Speaker 1: that kind of made it, and like, all right, we
Speaker 1: want to go do this. I want to be a
Speaker 1: stand up comedian. After that, comics weren't getting sitcoms anymore.
Speaker 1: That route was shut down. Now you're just gonna do
Speaker 1: stand up. Then he had all rooms open up and
Speaker 1: it started to expand. Another one was Dane Cook when
Speaker 1: he did tour Gasm and was doing arenas on HBO.
Speaker 1: He was the biggest comic on the planet, Like that's
Speaker 1: dude's a rockstar from just being a comedian. Then you
Speaker 1: had your Jim Gaffigan Sebastian. You had comics having full
Speaker 1: careers and doing big arenas, big things and stand up.
Speaker 1: Brian Reagan's another never did stuff in the Hollywood world
Speaker 1: was a comedian that got big and Netflix was a
Speaker 1: part of that. Comedy Central was a giant part of
Speaker 1: that as well. You Jerry said something about what hurt sitcoms?
Speaker 1: What was going to be funnier than the standup comedian?
Speaker 1: You can't make a movie I have as much laughs
Speaker 1: as stand up. To that, Jerry said, it seemed like
Speaker 1: those forums deteriorated. The reason was that someone has to
Speaker 1: prove each thing in the movie or TV show, Where
Speaker 1: a stand up we just go right to them and
Speaker 1: say what do you think of this? Having a third
Speaker 1: party make a decision was an obstruction of being funny.
Speaker 1: That was one of the reasons my show did well
Speaker 1: in the nineties. It was Larry David and I and
Speaker 1: nobody said anything to us. We just did what we
Speaker 1: wanted and there was no network involvement really at all.
Speaker 1: Mark Maren caught up with Consequence of Sound and they
Speaker 1: discussed how Maren works politics in and Maarn said, I
Speaker 1: didn't make a statement. I made a joke, That's what
Speaker 1: I do. An example of that was his comments about
Speaker 1: the Riod Comedy Festival, in which Maren said, how do
Speaker 1: you promote that for the people that brought you nine
Speaker 1: to eleven? Maren said, I made a joke about it,
Speaker 1: and I guess the joke had some residents and kind
Speaker 1: of sparked a more culturally active look at the participants
Speaker 1: in that festival. Consequence writes on this subject, his voice
Speaker 1: dips with contempt. Maren said, it's about money, dude. It's
Speaker 1: really about can you rationalize taking that money? And most
Speaker 1: people can because that's the world we live in. And
Speaker 1: I'm not even on any kind of high horse. I
Speaker 1: get it. Hey, all money's crappy. Maren clarifies there is
Speaker 1: no dollar amount that would have enticed him to Riodd.
Speaker 1: He also does not buy the argument that those comedians
Speaker 1: were spreading Western values. Maren said, autocratic countries that become
Speaker 1: culturally westernized. I don't think it ever changes the politics
Speaker 1: of those countries. It just does what it does here,
Speaker 1: creates more distraction the sense of freedom of choice because
Speaker 1: when you have a few different restaurants and a few
Speaker 1: different places you can go online adopting Western culture. It's
Speaker 1: not helping us right now. Maren continued. If you can
Speaker 1: rationalize taking the money and live with that, that's how
Speaker 1: this world works. You know, our president, who's supposed to
Speaker 1: be an example of something American, might be the most
Speaker 1: American president we've had in years, who knows. Get away
Speaker 1: with what you can get away with. Get all the money,
Speaker 1: you can double down on anything. Don't take responsibility or
Speaker 1: apologize for anything. Jessica Kerson was one of the comedians
Speaker 1: who played the Riant Comedy Festival. She caught up with
Speaker 1: Pride Source. They did not talk about said festival. They
Speaker 1: talked about touring, and Jessica Curson said, you can't make
Speaker 1: a living from the internet. It helps, but it's more
Speaker 1: that a lot of us put up videos to build
Speaker 1: an audience. We can perform four on the road because
Speaker 1: people follow you. They look at your schedule, they look
Speaker 1: at way you're performing. Plus I've been doing live stand up.
Speaker 1: I just started my twenty seventh year, and online is
Speaker 1: not the same, you know, because you don't have the
Speaker 1: audience reaction. Now that I'm performing for a thousand people
Speaker 1: each time, it's very different from the years and years
Speaker 1: of just doing it and hoping that an audience shows up.
Speaker 1: The demand is there now. The traveling is very hard,
Speaker 1: the planes and the hotels and all that stuff, but
Speaker 1: the shows are amazing, so when you get there it's
Speaker 1: all right, But on the way it's a lot. They
Speaker 1: were curious how the bit where Jessica turns away from
Speaker 1: the audience to share her internal monologue evolved. Jessica said,
Speaker 1: I just did it on stage one night. I don't
Speaker 1: even remember where it was or when. For a long
Speaker 1: time it didn't work. People were like, this woman has
Speaker 1: a metal disorder. Until I realized it was a save line.
Speaker 1: I had to do it when a joke didn't go
Speaker 1: over well or when there was awkward silence. Then the
Speaker 1: response was so positive. I kept doing it. From the
Speaker 1: La Times in Los Angeles, Miracle Mile neighborhood flanked by
Speaker 1: the Libreat tarpits, The La County Museum of Art and
Speaker 1: a Diner is a dense concentration of charming Art Deco
Speaker 1: and Spanish Mediterranean style apartment buildings. And on the corner
Speaker 1: of Fourth and Cochrane you'll find a plaque. Strapped to
Speaker 1: a street sign. You'll find a golden plaque commemorating Conan
Speaker 1: O'Brien's time living on Cochrane. The plaque features Conan's face
Speaker 1: as a bronze bust, with a short description of his
Speaker 1: life there before he became an Oscar's host. It is
Speaker 1: not official. It was created by the Cochrane Committee of
Speaker 1: Conan Connoisseurs. I guess they're the CZ which we're told
Speaker 1: is actually just one guy who lives on Cochran Avenue,
Speaker 1: occasionally listens to Conan's podcast, has a free time, and
Speaker 1: no real authority to put up a monument. But did
Speaker 1: it Anyway. We know all this because it says that
Speaker 1: on the inscription I love everything about this story. So
Speaker 1: who is the Cochrane Committee of Conan Connoisseurs. Well, it's
Speaker 1: Tim Hammill. He's the entire committee. He wanted people to
Speaker 1: know that Conan O'Brien used to live on that block
Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighties. The plaque riffs on the Baseball
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame plaques and the cream colored California historical signs.
Speaker 1: The CCCC explains, I wanted something that would look like
Speaker 1: a plaque from far away that would catch people's attention,
Speaker 1: make them want to come over and read it. He
Speaker 1: then had it to Staples, printed out a large, sturdy
Speaker 1: poster and fastened it to the stop sign on his block.
Speaker 1: In describing Conan O'Brien's time on Cochrane, the plaque reads,
Speaker 1: it was a time of struggle, ingenuity, and questionable mayonnaise
Speaker 1: based decisions. From these humble beginnings, the street witness the
Speaker 1: rise of a comedy icon. May the monument quote a
Speaker 1: poster affixed with zipsies inspire Cochrane Avenue residents to chase
Speaker 1: their dreams, embrace the originality in one day upgrade to
Speaker 1: a home with more than one bathroom. Maria Bamford was
Speaker 1: on the Last Laugh podcast. They pointed out that Netflix
Speaker 1: CEO Ted Sorrando said her show Lady Dynamite is the
Speaker 1: best original series the streamer has ever released. Bamford said
Speaker 1: that clearly isn't true. There is no best, there is
Speaker 1: no worse. There's just a bunch of people out there
Speaker 1: doing a craft and doing it beautifully in all sorts
Speaker 1: of ways. We are reminded that last year bill Board
Speaker 1: ranked Maria Bamford the ninth best comedian of the twenty
Speaker 1: first century, which is of course crazy talk. There's an
Speaker 1: episode somewhere in the December feet if you want to
Speaker 1: hear me comment about that. Nothing against Maria Bamford, but
Speaker 1: seems a little high. Can we talk about that list.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that list. Where's that list? Let me
Speaker 1: pull that up for us. I won't spend a lot
Speaker 1: of time on this, but looking at their list. One
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle, of course. Two Chris Rock fine, pick three
Speaker 1: c K even though he's canceled. Fine, pick for Mulaney,
Speaker 1: sure fine. Five Bill Burr. Bill Burr had a good
Speaker 1: twenty four years before losing it last year. Jerry Seinfeld.
Speaker 1: You know, you might think of him as more of
Speaker 1: a twentieth century comedian, but if you've seen him in
Speaker 1: the twenty first century, can't argue with that. Kevin Art
Speaker 1: at seven, Norm McDonald at eight. I don't want to debate.
Speaker 1: Norm MacDonald today, that's fine. Bamford is the nine. Robin
Speaker 1: Williams at ten is he a twentieth century comedian or
Speaker 1: twenty first? See I don't like that pick either. Sebastian
Speaker 1: at eleven is just insane. Nay to twelve is way
Speaker 1: too high. Sandler at thirtie we've discussed this. Attel at
Speaker 1: fourteen is criminally underrated. Hepburg at fifteen love Hebburg. But
Speaker 1: it's two albums or three if you want to count
Speaker 1: the posthumous one and out. But okay, love Hebburg. If
Speaker 1: you listen to the show, you know I love Hebburg.
Speaker 1: Gervais at sixteen, Wanda Sykes at seventeen is a little
Speaker 1: crazy to me eighteen Patrese O'Neil. You've heard me speak.
Speaker 1: I did not like the man, so I'm biased. Ali
Speaker 1: Wong at nineteen, Sarah Silverman at twenty seems high, Gabe
Speaker 1: Iglesias at twenty one, gaff Again at twenty two. He
Speaker 1: might not call you back, but it seems really really underrated.
Speaker 1: Trevor Noah twenty three, Billy Connolly at twenty four, and
Speaker 1: John Stewart at twenty five. And I respect John Stewart
Speaker 1: a lot, but I'm not sure he's in the same
Speaker 1: category in terms of stand up. I know he tours whatever. Alright,
Speaker 1: so back to Bamford, who's number nine on that list,
Speaker 1: She said of the list, it's just a trend and
Speaker 1: clearly not true. She suggested other women like Nicki Glazer
Speaker 1: and Kathy Griffin should be on the list as well,
Speaker 1: but she did repost it. She said, Oh no, I
Speaker 1: retweeted it just to be clear if the propaganda has
Speaker 1: been reposted. Shang Wang, one of my favorite current comedians,
Speaker 1: finds the most ordinary of things to be funny. He said,
Speaker 1: it's about taking a step back and look at the
Speaker 1: world as if you're an alien, meaning you're not taking
Speaker 1: any of it for granted, you're just an aw of
Speaker 1: what this thing is. But I'm also taking a step
Speaker 1: in and looking closely at what it appears to be.
Speaker 1: Some of his inspirations photographers William Eggleston and Elliott Erwitz
Speaker 1: stay with me. Shehangwan explains. Eggleston would take pictures of
Speaker 1: a tricycle but from a very low angle, and Elliott
Speaker 1: Erwit was catching interesting and funny little moments when things
Speaker 1: in life just lined up like melon's on a stand
Speaker 1: that looks like a lady's boobs. Wang tries to work clean,
Speaker 1: explaining the reason that I don't really use profanity is
Speaker 1: because I want to find the most unique and specific
Speaker 1: way to say what I'm trying to say. I think
Speaker 1: part of my comedy is to remind people that were
Speaker 1: human and were not separate from nature. I think it's
Speaker 1: important for us to pay attention to and appreciate the
Speaker 1: flora and fauna and how the ecosystems work. In the past,
Speaker 1: I've done a kind of comedy show with pictures of
Speaker 1: plants that I've taken. I might go back to doing
Speaker 1: some ver Know that and that is your comedy news
Speaker 1: for today. Catch it tomorrow.