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dot com first. But now, from January eleventh, nineteen fifty nine,

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here is the deadly doubt matter.

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Speaker 2: Johnny Dollar is Caerl Carson.

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Speaker 3: Mister Dollar, you don't know me, and I'm sorry to

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be calling so late.

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Speaker 2: What time is it? Anyway, when I am a friend of.

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Speaker 3: Yours, mister Ralston mentioned your name to me today. He

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said you were here in New York for the weekend

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and mentioned your hotel.

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Speaker 2: Look, Riss Carson. Yes, Carol Carson, it's nice talking to

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you and all that, but it is right Later I

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realized what had happened a few moments ago.

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Speaker 3: You were the first person I thought of. Maybe you

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can help me, mister Dollar. I need help.

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Speaker 2: Actly what's the trouble.

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Speaker 3: I'm at the apartment of Everett Read on East sixty.

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Speaker 2: Seventh over any particular reason. Yes, I think I've just

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killed him, mister Dollar. I'll be right over Bob Bailey

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in the Exciting Eventures of a Man with the Action

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in fact expense account America's fabulous freelance insurance Investigator as

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truly and now act one of yours, truly Johnny Dollar

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Expense accounts of ented by Special Investigator Johnny Dollar to

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the Interstal Adjustment Bureau Home Office, Hertford, Connecticut, following as

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a kind of expenses encourage during my investigation of the

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deadly Doubt Matter expense accundine one a dollar any cab

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from my hotelity apartment I've ever read on East sixty seventh.

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Harol Carson was waiting for me at the door. She

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looked sort of dazed as she pointed to a body.

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Speaker 3: On the floor.

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Speaker 2: He's dead.

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Speaker 3: To Dollar, ever read, let's see, Yes, this is his apartment.

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Speaker 2: You said over the phone you thought you'd kill him. Well,

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he's dead, all right.

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Speaker 3: That's not what I meant. I meant I thought I

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was the one who killed him. I'm not sure I had. Oh,

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I don't know. Doesn't seem to matter. He's dead.

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Speaker 2: I guess that's all.

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Speaker 3: I get hold of yourself, Carol, I guess I'm not

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making that sort of funny lightheaded.

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Speaker 2: Let us.

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Speaker 3: Thanks?

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Speaker 2: Oh, why didn't you start at the beginning?

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Speaker 3: All right? I came to see tonight about eleven o'clock.

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Speaker 2: I guess he was a friend of yours.

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Speaker 3: Oh, he sent for me. I had to come.

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Speaker 2: Why I'm telling me why.

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Speaker 3: He insisted that I have a drink with him. Then

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I started to feel funny, busy. I had to get

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some air.

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Speaker 2: You think there was something in the drink.

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Speaker 3: He didn't want me to leave, but I had to.

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Speaker 2: What time was that?

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Speaker 3: I think a little before? Maybe I wandered around the streets.

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I was in kind of a day.

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Speaker 2: How long were you wandering around?

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Speaker 3: It seemed like a long time.

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Speaker 2: Then why I came back here.

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Speaker 3: To the apartment. I had a terrible headache. I remember

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walking in the door, and.

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Speaker 2: That's all that's all. What do you mean, That's all that's.

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Speaker 3: All I remember. I must have passed out when I

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came to, I was lying on the floor and that

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gun was near my hand. In front of me was

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and I called you.

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Speaker 2: That's all you can tell me?

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Speaker 3: Great, So as much is it?

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Speaker 2: The dollar?

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Speaker 3: I can't believe I killed him.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't you say you left this apartment a little

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before eleven thirty. The police medical examiner will be able

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to tell the approximate time of day if you weren't

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here at that time.

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Speaker 3: That's just it, mister dollar. I don't know how long

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I was on the street. It seemed like a long time,

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but oh my head was spinning and everything was pretty hatey.

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Speaker 2: Well, you gotta remember where you went to try to think.

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Speaker 3: It's no good. Wait, coffee, a cup of coffee.

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Speaker 2: You stop somewhere for a cup of coffee. I think where.

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Speaker 3: I remember a neon sign on on Third Avenue.

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Speaker 2: You've got to do better than that. That's all I remember.

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Did you talk to anyone while you were walking around? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yes, but he was following me. I think a man.

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He was following me for quite a while. He told

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me his name, no Tom, Yes it was Tom. I

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remember that dark eye look.

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Speaker 2: That description fits thousands of guys in New York.

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Speaker 3: The whole story. Well, it doesn't sound very convincing, does.

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Speaker 2: I called Detective Lieutenant Mike Tovich homicide and he was

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there ten minutes later. He was still questioning her. When

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I left. I had them two one dollar drinks for

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me while I thought about the whole deal. Of all

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the guys in New York, Why did she have to

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pick on me? But yeah, I'd do what I could

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to help her. It's that story of hers. It sounded

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so pony, it just might be true. Act two, you

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were truly Johnny Dollar. In a moment, it was truly

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Johnny Dollar. And the deadly doubt matter. I had them

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three two dollars and twenty cents a telephone called a

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Pat McCrackan at Universal Adjustment Bureau. Yeah, Everett Reid had

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been insured by one of the Universal's member companies. So

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I got myself officially assigned to the case, and I

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went to work kicking out Carol Carson's story what there

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was of it, and it wasn't much. All she remembered

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was wandering around the streets, getting a cup of coffee

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somewhere on Third and being followed by a guy named Tom.

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I started checking every Joint on Third Avenue from sixtieth

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to seventieth Streets. An hour and a half later, I

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had paid her to Eddie's Baring Grille. Yeah, yeah, I

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think I remember, all right, Harson, Perrell, Carson, her name.

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Speaker 4: Don't be nothing, but from the description you give me. Yeah, sure,

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I remember now. I remember thinking she looked kind of

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funny once.

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Speaker 2: You walked in, like she was in a daze or something.

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All right, all right, now, what time was it when

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she came in here?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: No, two three hours ago? That's not good enough. Was

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it eleven eleven thirty midnight? Well? What? Well, maybe around midnight? Maybe? Yeah,

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be sure about it?

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Speaker 4: Before I can remember, I kind of remember somebody in

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the door, we have to come in, but I didn't

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know somebody with her or not.

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Speaker 2: What happened then? So she asked for a couple of coffee,

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so I pored it and said it down in front

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of her. So she left. She what Yeah, I'm left

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still to her? Funny, I see, how much of a

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time can you account for that? I mean, how long

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was she here in your place? No more than about

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one minute? Matt oh raach for a dollar. Lady camp

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for at the police headquarters and Lieutenant Mike Tovich and homicide. Look, Johnny,

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you're not trying to tell me I should buy an

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aloe buy like Carol Carson's, are you. So it is

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pretty vague, Mike, vague enough to be true. At least

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she was telling the truth about going into that jo

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on Third Avenue for a cup of coffee. So she's

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covered for one minute out of two hours two hours.

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She said she went to Reed's apartment about eleven o'clock, right,

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the medical examiner says time of Read's death was between

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eleven thirty and twelve thirty. She called you at one o'clock.

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But if she can prove she was out of that

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apartment for that hour, she's only proved she was out

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of it for a minute, plus the time it took

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to get the Third Avenue and back, say five minutes

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each way, and would still give her plenty of time

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to kill him. But if he could find this guy

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named Tom she says she was, that was following her around,

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maybe he could prove she was out of the apartment

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during the time of the murder. Oh sure, that was

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a real helpful description. She gave us. Curly hair and

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dark eye. Yeah, Look, Johnny, so you're taking a liking

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to her. That's too bad, But don't let it make

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a fool out of you. Mike. Did Carroll tell you

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why she went to Read's apartment? No, No, she wouldn't

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talk about it. She also wouldn't explain the lump she

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has on the side of her head. Yeah, we think

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she got it fighting with Reed. What do you know

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about him? Bad boy, a big gambler. And the way

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we heard he'd been winning pretty big lately. Maybe somebody

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he won from couldn't pay off except with a bullet.

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Maybe anything, Johnny, prove it? And I'll listen. What did

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Reid run around with? You know, usual crowd, Johnny, Jack

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Mistil had outfit miscile. I've read one a lot of

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money from him. Like I say, Johnny, anything you can prove? Yeah, yeah, Johnnie,

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that's right. I'm Larry Bowman. I want to know what's

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going on with Carroll Carson. Oh what's it to you,

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mister Bowman? I'll say anything, are locked up? That's right,

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suspicion of murders. She didn't kill anybody, and you know it. Look,

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if I knew it, she wouldn't be locked up, would she? Now,

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maybe you can tell us why she went to this

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ever at Read's apartment last night. I don't know why

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she went, and I don't supposed to ask her either.

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I trust the lieutenant, and she went to seem she

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had good reason. But Carol's not kind. You could kill anybody.

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You must have realized that just talking to her. The

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main thing that I realized is that my personal opinion

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is besides the point, Bowman. Look, the thing we need

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to know is if Carol was away from Read's apartment

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for almost an hour and a half, why she seems

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to think she was walking around the streets. Say that

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sooner I can prove she was. I was with her.

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Oh funny, she didn't mention it. She was probably confused.

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You're not the one who was confused. Now, look I

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tell you I was with her. Okay, where were you

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on the street? What street? I don't remember? Sixty sixty

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eighth Street. I think that's not the street. Carol says

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she was on. As I say, she was probably confused.

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As you go to a bar, would you have to drink? Oh?

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Carol too sure? Why not? You're fighting a losing battle, bond.

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Carol says she had a cup of coffee on Third Avenue,

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and that a guy named Tom was following. I'll listen.

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You told us enough. Woman. I can't blame you too

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much for trying. I guess, but it won't work. You

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weren't with Carol, and you know it. I know she

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didn't kill it. You mean you hope she didn't When

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it comes to knowing right now, every bit of evidence

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we got says she did, and we've got nothing that

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says she didn't act pre you off yours truly, Johnny Dollar.

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In a moment, yours truly, Johnny Dollar, and the deadly

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doubt matter. Oh I dont five thirty cents coffee for

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Larry Bowman and me had a little join around the corner.

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Lieutenant Toby, you can talk about evidence until he's blue

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in the face, do it. Carol's not a killer. You

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proved that, and Tobach will be the first to listen.

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But cooking up pony alibis for Carol's not gonna help

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any Okay, Okay, So it was a stupid thing to do.

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I can't just stand by and do nothing. Don't you

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have any other leads? You can follow up one? Maybe? Why?

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What is it? Reed? Was a gambler. Could be somebody

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was losing big stual. Carrol's my fiance, and I know

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she doesn't have that kind of money anyway, she doesn't gamble.

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I wasn't thinking about Carol. Who then Jack Whistle, for instance,

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we found out Read's been seen with vessels several times.

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Lay question him about it. I may as well, after all,

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at this point, we got nothing to lose. You're bucking

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up a wrong tree. Dollar, what reason would I have

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to kill Reid? Could be a real good reason, Vessel.

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Maybe you lost money to him, Camra. Some nights you win,

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some nights you lose. So maybe you lost one nights

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and you won, so maybe you will read some money.

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Oh that could be the motive. Look, Dollar, why don't

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you take your crazy theory someplace else? Yeah, I ow'd

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read money. I owe him all the two bits. Now

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is that enough to bump them off? I started making

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the rounds a long third avenue again, but I got nowhere.

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Nobody remembered seeing her, and nobody remembered the guy named Tom,

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the one she told me had been following her. Two

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hours later, I gave up. I was preached. I went

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back to my room and flopped on the bed. Yeah, okay, okay, yeah,

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uh Johnny tellon, that's right. Who are you? I'm the

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guy you've been looking for it. Why my name's Tom.

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I ring a bell? It sure does? You the one

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who was walking around the streets with Carol Carson. That's right.

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I'm a alibi. So I bust my neck trying to

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find you, and it ends up with you finding me.

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I read in the papers that looked bad for Carol

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unless they found the guy I was with it. He

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didn't show up any too soon, believe me, brother. How

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long were you with her? Oh? I figure at least

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an hour. I kept following her, and once in a

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while she'd stop and talk, but she seemed kind of

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dazed and apparently re put something in a drink. Anyway,

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I finally gave up. I figured, if it was that

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tough to get acquainted, what's the use. But you're willing

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to swear you were with her for an hour? Why

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at least I'm around eleven thirty. After twelve thirty, he clears, there,

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come on, I had am sixty dollars ready camp for

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at the headquarters. Tom repeated a statement. Carol identified Tom

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as the man who'd been following her. So it looked

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like it was all over.

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Speaker 3: Hi. I guess I'll never be able to thank you enough, Johnny. Well,

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if it hadn't been.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's just say on the stubborn type, Carol. Once

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I believe your story, I had to follow through on it.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to realize I'm free. It's been like a

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bad dream.

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Speaker 2: I'll bet Larry Bowman's glad it's over too. Have you

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called him in?

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Speaker 3: I'll call him from my apartment, Johnny. All I can

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say is thanks again.

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Speaker 2: Carol took a cab to her apartment. I started back

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into the building, and then out of the corner of

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my eye, I spotted another cat pulling up the curve

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following Carroll's and it was Tom. I figured i'd better

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join that procession. I tagged along to Carroll's apartment. Inside

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I could hear voices. The door was unlocked. Carol was

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in the process of handing over some money.

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Speaker 3: Tom.

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Speaker 2: Johnny, Yeah, looks like I got here just in time

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to witness the payoff. So you butcher yourself an alibi, Carrol, No,

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I look, Doll, I got to stay out of it, Carroll.

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I got to hand it to you.

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Speaker 3: You really had me for what you don't understand, Johnny, don't.

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Speaker 2: Be a sucker. Dollar cut yourself in on the pie.

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I'm willing to have a partner. What are you talking about?

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Last night? When I followed Carroll back to Read's apartment,

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just as I was leaving, I spotted somebody coming down

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the fire escape. I followed him and found who he

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was and where he lived. And when the story came

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out in the papers, I realized I knew who the

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killer was. I figured it makes him go out of it,

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but not as long as Carol was in jail.

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Speaker 3: Johnny, just not when he wanted money to keep him

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from telling the police. Oh, I didn't know what to do.

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I thought if I gave him what I had, it

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would keep him satisfied until I could figure it out Larry.

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Speaker 2: When am it was too late, open door, It struck

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Larry's arm, the flipped his shot before he could shoot again.

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Speaker 3: I nailed him, Johnny, Are.

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Speaker 2: You all right? Yeah, Larry Bowman's the killer.

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Speaker 3: I guess I was afraid of that right from the start.

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You see where he'd been gambling with Reed and losing

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to him. I tried to make him stop, but he

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wouldn't I more than he could pay.

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Speaker 2: So you want to read his apartment of try and square. Huh.

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Speaker 3: He told me maybe something could be worked out. He

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put something in my drink. I realized what he meant.

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That's why I got.

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Speaker 2: Out and Larry out of the apartment when you were away,

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killed reed, slugged you when you came back and planted

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the gun on you.

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Speaker 3: I guess so I wasn't true until Tom told me

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he'd seen Larry climb down that fire escape. First, I

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just I just couldn't believe that Larry would How do

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you figure a thing like that? Johnny? How do you

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figure it?

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Speaker 2: I didn't try to answer that one because I didn't

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have an answer. Yes, it just isn't any I had.

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I made thirteen dollars and forty cents in Sinnettal's in

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transportation back to Hardrid expense account total and forty one

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dollars even. Yeah, Larry Bowman's gambling was a big fat mistake.

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First with ever read and in trying to frame Carol.

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I guess with the trouble, Yami push you luck too far,

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and sooner a lady bound to loose us? Truly, Johnny

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Dale our star will return in just a moment. Ah,

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here is our star to tell you about next week's story.

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Next week at Doulting Dollager who sets me out on

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the wildless case I ever handled? Johanne, Won't you yours truly,

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Johnny Dale, Yours Truly Johnny Dollars Salute Station k r

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MG and Tulsa, Oklahoma. K r MG is our newest

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to Philliot station and serves nearly a million families in

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the Southwest. Yours Truly Johnny Dollars, starring Bob Dailey, produced,

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I'm directed by Jack Johnstone. Today's story was written by

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Robert Stanley. Heard in the cast where Virginia, Greg, Julius Matthews,

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Paul Dubar, James Mcalliam, Allan Reed, and Frank Gristoll join

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us next week. What another exciting story of Yours Truly,

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Johnny Dollar. This is damn coverly.

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Speaker 1: Speaking, welcome back, well, a decent script overall, a good mystery,

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and I think a surprising ending too. Now, of course,

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there are many, many documented cases of Johnny Dollar using

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scraps from other programs, but this is one of those where,

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even though there's not a documented duplicate, I am really

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really suspicious that this was a reused story. First of all,

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the Fry has a very non standard way that Johnny

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gets involved in the case, as well as an insurance

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angle that feels somewhat tangential and added to justify his presence.

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And there are lines of dialogue like Johnny saying, of

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all the guys in New York, why did she call me?

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Speaker 3: That?

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Speaker 1: Do make me think that this was originally written for

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some sort of New York private Eye. Now the writer

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Robert Stanley. The only writing credits I could find for

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him were Johnny Dowler and Luke Slaughter of Tombstone, and

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obviously I don't think this was reused from Luke Slaughter

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of Tombstone. However, there are a lot of old time

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radio detective programs with quite a few lost episodes, and

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so it's possible that Stanley wrote this script for another

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program that we just don't have access to. I'd actually

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be surprised if we ever definitively found proof that wasn't

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the case. I would not be at all surprised if

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an old time radio program came into circulation for some

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obscure detective series with the exact same storyline. As this

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episode listener comments and feedback now and we go to Spotify,

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where doctor who Done It wrote I think the real

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twist here is that the woman Johnny was interested in

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wasn't guilty and she didn't wind up dead. Guilty, dead

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or both are the popular outcomes for Johnny Dollar love interest,

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so I guess it's worth noting in the hair raising

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manner that it didn't work out that way. Thanks so much,

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appreciate the comment. Now it is time to thank our

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episode of Yours Truly, Johnny Doller, but join us back

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here tomorrow as we give way to the great adventurers

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of old time radio and counterspy where this is going to.

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Speaker 2: Be a tough enough to crack munting half a minion

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force gasoline.

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Speaker 5: Coupons, bud counterfeiting or all bring gasoline coupons just as

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bad now as counterfitting money work. I have a hunch

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of this is even more serious than it appears on

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the surface. How do you mean I'm afraid that this

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gas is being obtained by counterfeit coupons to be used

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to lead you animy submarines.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it goes that deep?

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Speaker 1: I hope you'll be with with us then in the meantime,

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